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Hour number two here on a Friday
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If you want to jump back in, you can five two, five

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to seven. One seventy nine hundred
is the number if you want to give

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us a call. Start of the
show, mentioning just how excited and energized

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I am as a Louisville fan just
because Louisville, I think has a new

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life, regardless of what happened with
Kentucky, because they've got a new era

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that's you know, a couple of
weeks underway. Pat Kelsey, obviously we'll

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see if what he's been able to
do at Winthrop and at Charleston, we'll

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see if it translates here. I
have no reason to think that it won't,

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but you know, you never really
know. And he's also checking boxes

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that are really important, not only
because of who we are as a fan

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base, but because of what's happened
recently where there was just really no engagement

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with the fan base from the basketball
side of things. So so far,

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so good. Pat Kelsey actually has
some big visitors on campus this weekend,

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which we'll get into that a little
bit later on. And if you are

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on Twitter, they just posted a
video of him in full football uniform and

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pads, helmet and everything. I
didn't get a chance to watch the whole

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thing to see exactly what it is
he's doing. I don't know if he's

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out there kicking field goals or what
it is. But he's also going to

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throw out the first pitch tomorrow at
the Louisville baseball game. So that alone

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is exciting. But then when you
throw in the Kentucky side of things,

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not only are we happy that they
are underwhelmed with their higher which look,

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I'm not gonna do the Oh,
I don't act like you like your coach

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because you hate him. You're gonna
support him and want him to win and

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like him because he's your coach.
That's how this works. Is that is

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natural. That is again how this
works. But I also know that you

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were underwhelmed with the higher and I
don't think there's any chance that it twenty

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four hours ago, anybody thought he
would actually be their coach, certainly by

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today. So they are dealing with
some humble pie and some of it is

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I think just them getting a reality
check that they can't get anybody they want.

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You know, Danny Hurley was always
a long shot, but you've got

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money to throw at him that ucon
probably can't. But he wasn't interested Scott

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Drew. I didn't sense a cause. I believe Kentucky fans who say they

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felt like they were a little bit
relieved that it wasn't Drew. Because Drew's

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a nice guy and a good coach. He has a championship, a lot

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of early exits in the tournament,
and when you really want to prop him

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up after that title, which matters
a lot. But the secondary stuff to

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really use to prop him up would
probably just be recruiting, which is important.

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But then it's just, well,
he's won at Baylor. So I

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think if you said, hey,
are we taking Scott Drew or we taking

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Mark Pope two days ago, you
would have said you'd have been disrespected by

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the question. I believe so it
came at you fast. Drew said no,

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and I think there was there was
some relief but also a little bit

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of shock that, you know,
I think they were probably not that sad

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that he wasn't going to be their
coach, but I think they were shocked

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to see that he just simply did
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then I think the pivoting started.
Well, now we got to throw a

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bunch of money at early and then
we'll wait for Billy Donovan. And I

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think if you take a step back, which at times is hard, and

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what I mean by taking a step
back, I mean take the emotion out

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of it, which again it's impossible. You're a fan. You couldn't stop

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loving your team if you tried.
But the Donovan thing was just not not

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doable. Just the timing and circumstance
made that. Honestly, that was a

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desperation thing, I believe, because
it wasn't realistic as far as the timeline,

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and you don't even know for sure
if you wanted the job. Everybody

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that covered this, from the NBA
side and the college side, claim that

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they have sources that said Billy Donald
would not have any interest in the job,

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and I guess that's the arrogance,
and that's where the humble Pie comes

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in. Because there are Kentucky fans
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the Kentucky world that thought, well
that that's not true. And I think

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it's because they just assume, how
could somebody not want this job. I

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think that's where you kind of had
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that yeah, you're great, you
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it. Nobody would argue that.
But you can't just get anybody because you're

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Kentucky. And also times have changed. Guys will not leave for a better

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job when they're already at a good
job or a really good job and a

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really good situation. So I do
think Mark Pope could win there. But

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here's what I think Kentucky fans are
going to have to deal with is that

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it's gonna take a lot of time
before you really, truly, deep down

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feel like this guy is cap of
being your coach and doing the ultimate or

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I guess accomplishing the ultimate goal,
which is winning a national championship. I

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mean, the guy won a tournament
game. You have nothing to base that

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off of right now, and that's
rare for Kentucky. I mean, let's

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go back to Billy g I know
some people think well, if he didn't

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have his own personal demons that he
would have, he would have it would

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have worked out. What makes you
think that? I mean even when,

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like I mean, it was a
two year thing, but like he recruited

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kids that didn't have any division.
Maybe you're saying, well, his demons

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impacted everything from his his you know, coaching him, him being you know,

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embracing the position that he had and
recruiting and all that. But like

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I you know, I'm not saying
he's a bad coach, but like,

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I don't think that would ever worked
out. But Rick Patino, the guy

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was a rock star right away,
right took the Unforgettables to the final four,

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and that was just the ultimate sign
that you guys just got yourself a

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rock star who's phenomenal. And then
Tubby won a title his first year,

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So like right out of the gate, like you knew you had a guy

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that could do it. He did
it in his first seat. Reason Cali

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Perry in his third season. I
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final fours along the way. So
when I talk about the Chris Mack era

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kind of completely unraveling and the fans
kind of melting down. I'm not kidding

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you when I say I do think
a global pandemic happening in the midst of

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that was a part of it.
But also fans lost their minds and said,

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get this guy the hell out of
town because of the fear they had

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that he could not get it done. And who knows, I mean,

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I don't know if he ever would
have won a title here. We'll never

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know. He never coached a game
here without there being some pending punishment.

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But with Denny, we did't have
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we did't have to worry about that. Kentucky's in the same situation with cal

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and with Tubby and with Beatino.
And now this is a guy that it's

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just truly a guess. Doesn't mean
he can't get it done. But here's

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what I think is very realistic to
expect from Kentucky under Mark Pope. You

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know, maybe he does go get
elite talent because it's Kentucky, But is

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he gonna be able to do it
the way Caliperi did it? No,

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because no nobody does and nobody will. That's an insanely high standard to set.

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And I know Mark Pope being a
likable guy that did in fact play

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in the NBA for a little while. That can be viewed as, you

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know, an advantage for him,
because you know, not many coaches can

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say they had to link the NBA
career, and he played in the NBA

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for looks like too, looks like
he played the He I didn't realize he

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played the NBA as long as he
did. He spent some time overseas as

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well, but he had a pro
career from ninety six to two thousand and

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five, roughly ten years and all. But I think two of those seasons

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were in the NBA and that'll help
him. But again, like expecting him

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to go out and start breeling in
the classes Caliperi was doing is just I

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don't think realistic. So what you
have to worry about now is what's the

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ceiling. Kentucky had teams that were
underwhelming, but you always knew it's not

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a matter of talent, it's not
a matter of liability. They got dudes,

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and even if they're freshmen and they
look lost early, you know that

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eventually they're probably gonna get better and
you may be able to break through and

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win a national championship because they have
elite talent that NBA scouts, NBA teams

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covet. The ceiling was always high
with cal always. That can't be said

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for Mark Pope at least I don't
think. But maybe he proves me wrong

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and he goes out there and puts
together the most talented team we've ever seen.

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But I could see Kentucky. You
know, they'll not lose to some

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bums like UNC Wilmington. They'll probably
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They'll be older, they'll probably be
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But what's the ceiling. I mean, how good can they actually be?

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And that's where I feel like you
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which you know, you have to
wait and see with every single higher But

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I just think that is going to
be the drastic difference as far as just

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the overall it's the word. The
overall brand of Kentucky basketball under Calipari was,

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Look, we have guys that are
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Don't know what they're going to do
when they're here as far as stats and

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production, but we got dudes,
and you can win championships without those kind

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of teams. That's actually what's happening
right now. Like to be honest with

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you, I'm not trying to say
that the Calipari way of doing it would

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what was always going to work out, because in fact, he wasn't really

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adjusting and it showed. That's how
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And you know, to be fair, the two teams that did have the

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upsets in the tournament, make no
mistake about it, they were really good,

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really good national championship contenders in the
eyes of most. But his coaching

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and him being young when it matters
most in the tournament, I think it

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came back to bite him. So
you know, I mean, I just

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think when it comes to when it
comes to Mark Pope, and again it's

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hard to really know exactly what to
expect from ras when really he's not mean,

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it's just it's this is all new
to him. But with Pope,

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they'll be more consistent. But I
think you could have a good team that

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is the fifth best team in the
SEC on a pretty consistent basis, and

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it's not because you stink, it's
because that league is a lot better.

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And let's be real, you know, now, like I think people could

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say before, but it felt weird
it felt gross just because you know Cal's

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Cal. But like in the last
five years, Eric Muslman is a better

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coach than John cal Perry. Rick
Barnes a better coach than John cal Perry.

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Bruce Pearl a better coach than John
cal Perry. And I'm basing this

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off of just like records, results, like performance, like more momentum,

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like playing them more modern. I
mean, it's just deeper tournament runs,

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you know. So you now have
Mark Pope, who I don't think you

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would claim that cal Perry is is
behind. So like when I mentioned all

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the SEC coaches, I forgot to
mention call earlier right because you got Nat

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Oates who's on fire broke through this
year. I think he's he's he's part

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of the future of college basketball.
And he's not accomplished anything anything like Dan

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Hurley, but man, he's he's
a star. Bruce Pearl at Auburn,

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Todd Golden at Florida, I think
is a rising star. Buzz Williams,

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you never know, occasionally has really
good teams. Chris Jian's at Mississippi State.

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He's not accomplished a whole lot,
but I think he's pretty good coach

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Caliperiot, Arkansas, I feel like
I'm still missing one either way, those

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are guys that, like you just
now know, your coach has to actually

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do it for a couple of years
to know if he's going to be able

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to be in that tier. And
nobody's patient around here with basketball, trust

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me, Louisville fans, Kentucky fans, not even Indiana fans, but there's

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going to be a level of patients
needed for Kentucky fans that they're not used

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to. It's just going to be
unnatural. And if Cal brings half his

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team that he had in lexingon too
Kentucky, he brings that recruiting class to

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Kentucky, he gets some big name
transfers from Kentucky or you know, from

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for any from anywhere, they're going
to be farther ahead than Kentucky next year.

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And that will be understandable given the
situation. But dealing with that,

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I'll be surprised if we see a
big chunk of that fan base dealing with

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that, you know, in an
understanding way. And I'm not even criticizing

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you if you don't, because again
I get it. With Louisville, you

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know, we had two seasons that
were the worst seasons we'll ever see in

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Louisville basketball history. I'm quite confident
in that. So we've got a guy

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that you know, actually has actually
done more than your coach and our bar

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Like, if we win fifteen games
next year, we're not gonna act like

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we're back and we were you know, destined to be a national champion under

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Pat Kelsey. But we're more built
for this next season with a new coach

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than you are. And there's no
make no mistake about that. And it's

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not I don't say it to brag. It's just because of the situation.

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It's because of how bad we've sucked
the last couple of years. And you

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know, here is I mean,
this is this is just this isn't me

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like, hey, Pat Kelsey is
John Wood and you guys hired the next

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Kenny Payne. And I know it'll
sound like that to some because again that's

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what the rivalry does, right.
I mean, you hear what you want,

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You have selective hearing because if somebody
you know, you know what I

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mean. But Pat Kelsey's been a
head coach twelve years. Mark Pope's been

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a head coach ten years, NCAA
Tournament's Pa Kelsey four, Mark Pope two

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win percentage. Pat Kelsey's won sixty
eight percent of his games. Mark Pope

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has won sixty three percent. Pat
Kelsey, in his twelve years as a

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head coach, has won six regular
season titles in two different leagues. Mark

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Pope has never won his league conference
tournament champs. Pack Kelsey's won his league

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conference title five times and the fourth
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Meaning how he didn't get that tournament
appearance is because of COVID and that COVID

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year he won his TAPT he won
his league. Mark popa has never won

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his conference tournament doesn't mean he's doesn't
mean that that's proof that he sucks.

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It's just like the fact that Kentucky
hired that when they're fans and even Louisville

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fans, myself included, were in
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like that. That's something that had
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whenever it became real that it was
in fact happening. So you're not gonna

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hear me, you know, bad
mouth Mark Pope as he's a bum as

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a coach, because I don't know
that, and I think he's done enough

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in his time as a coach to
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you have less results to run with
than the Louisville guy. And it,

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you know, like one of the
things that I've heard BYU was good this

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year, Make no mistake about it. They got upset early in lost to

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Decaane, but b YU was a
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to be successful there if he was
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that he and I know there are
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do in recruiting. But one thing
that is just not true at all that

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I feel like needs to be you
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that b YU won before Mark Pope. In fact, Mark Pope, I

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mean he he took BYU to the
tournament twice and never won a game.

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Dave Rose was at BYU from two
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he, let's see, he won
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were in the West Coast Conference and
when they went to the Mountain West or

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when they were in the Mountain West. You know, he never had more

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than four losses in the league play. This is a guy that went to

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the Sweet sixteen, won some games
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anything to do with Mark Pope.
But this is what I am going to

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call you on when you're just grasping
for things to make your coach appear to

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be something that he's not. I'm
not telling you he's a bad coach,

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but this notion that, like,
who's ever want to b yu He had

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a call her earlier and said they
have been relevant since Dan Marley. You

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ever heard a guy named Jim or
for debt? Remember him? He's pretty

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good. So we'll see. That's
that's all I mean that ultimately, that's

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that's what it is. We'll see
about both these coaches. But I think

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Louisville fans have a little bit more
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And we had a Kentucky fan who
called it earlier says he thinks that that

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Pat Kelsey will be more successful than
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like, it's just a wild thing
to me to know how bad Louisvill's been

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recently and how down the program has
been, and to know that like Kentucky

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fans. I mean, they're gonna
support their guy, which they should.

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You're gonna always you're never gonna not
support your team and want them to win

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because it's unnatural. But they've got
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I wouldn't call it false hope,
but it's just much more of a

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wait and see for them. I
guess if that makes sense? All right?

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Can I tell you really quickly about
my morning? John, tell me

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about it? So this, you
know, my wife is is a I

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was a basketball fan. I consider
her to be kind of you know,

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I don't know what other woman,
other women who listen to the show and

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other women that love college basketball,
but my wife, she knows enough to

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be dangerous, if that makes sense. But she had never heard of Mark

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Pope. And I, you know, wouldn't you say? That's probably understandable,

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Like, I don't know why she
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He played? Yeah, So when
I told her they hired Mark Pope,

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she was like who, huh who? And I said Mark Pope?

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Like she was getting ready for work, I was getting the kids up.

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Maya was still asleep, my daughter, and Moose was up and uh,

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sometimes he wakes up just like when
to go back to bed. Sometimes he

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wakes up ready to light the world
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that was this morning. And my
wife's in the closet getting her you know,

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outfit for the day or whatever.
We're in the bedroom and our walk

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in closet's kind of deep. Not
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she couldn't hear me, I guess, or she was thinking, are

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you saying Mark Pope? Like,
yeah, Mark Pope. You know.

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That's when I realize she doesn't know
who he is, and we're just yelling

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back. I'm saying Mark Pope.
She's kind of questioning Mark Pope, and

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it just it's like an echo chamber. So then Moose he says Mark Poop

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and that brought a lot of laughter
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he felt like he had a good
joke, so he wanted to He wanted

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to share that joke more and more
so a lot of you know, I

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was like, do you know who
Mark Poop is? He's like, no,

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Mark Poop, Mark Poop. And
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cats coach. And now he probably
told everybody at daycare that the new coach

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for Kentucky basketball is Mark Poop.
I got a video of it. I

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was gonna maybe post it online,
but then I thought, probably shouldn't do

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that. There's nothing to gain from
it, even though it's adorable and some

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may find it funny. But then
like, you may have people that would

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say like bad things about my kid, and then I would track him down

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and kill him and probably ruin my
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that, right but here is here
is on command. If you ask him

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who the Cats coaches? Who's the
coach of the Cats? Poop? Who

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like Poop Mark Poop? He may
start a revolution with l fans? He

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might, he might? So can
I read really quickly here before we go

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to break some of these Some of
these uh this is some some message boar

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post from Kentucky fans. This is
turned into a reality check from hell if

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we end up with Pope no uh
no offense to Mark. This seems like

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an IU move. What's that supposed
to? What? India? Kentucky fans

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have this insecurity complex to where they
just like when they feel when they're like

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insecurities creep in about who they are, they just start, you know,

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the uncontrolla Indiana, they're so afraid
to be Indian. Yeah yeah, and

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which, to be fair, it
is an Indiana move. You hired an

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alum, that's an Indiana did and
and it's things that you criticize both Louisville

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and Kentucky for do. Yeah,
this is I will stop watching college basketball

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all together. I will stick to
UK football. Cincinnati Bengals, Cincinnati Reds.

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That's it. Jesus Christ, please
give me a patina before we get

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to the Pope level. Now,
if this were to happen, I'm done.

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I'm out. I'm not entertaining it. Boosters will never let this happen.

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I'll hop on the fire Mitch.
And if we try Pope before giving

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Donovan or Pearl a college try or
reassessing Oates. If Pope is the coach

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next year, We've made the biggest
mistake of all time. The happiest person

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and all of this is Mark Stoops. UK basketball will be on dead and

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we'll be a football school. That's
all we'll have. I gotta say,

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though, at there was an inkling
in me last night that made me think

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this would be like the Tennessee Football
Effect, where there was so much outcry

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against this really that maybe Mitch Barnhart
would back out, but I know he's

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confident in who he is, so
I don't know if I truly believed in

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that. Oh I don't mix Barn't
hates his fans. He'd never do anything

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based off of their you know,
whining. I mean, there was a

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thought that I was like, man, there are so many angry people.

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Well because they're that angry, and
they're that many of them, right,

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Yeah, But Mark Pope's going to
be introduced, I believe on Sunday,

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and Kentucky fans will absolutely support him
and believe and hope for the best,

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and that's what you should do as
a fan. And Louisville's doing the same

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thing with Pat Kelsey. And it
kind of feels like this whole thing's restarting.

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Clearly bragging right, still belong to
the Blue Side, but we got

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some new energy here and that alone
is exciting. We're gonna get to know

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these coaches more. We're gonna see
these rosters come together. It's gonna be

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Stex says, nake your spot on with

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cal. The fear wasn't just that
he was great and we sucked, and

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we would never beat him. Even
even when they weren't great, we'd find

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a way to lose. This is
a new era and there's no fear of

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Mark poop, no fear he's done
it. But the moose is doing it.

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He's starting the Mark Mark poop revolution. We can maybe we can monetize

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this, sell some shirts, although
I don't know if people would want to,

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you know, walk around with that
word on their shirt. But hey,

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I've seen I've seen shirts in public
or around you know, children that

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I'm surprised people feel comfortable wearing so. But you know how he is,

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though here he doesn't. He won't
approve the l's down for Kentucky. If

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Louisville fans were wearing Mark poop shirts. He wouldn't be having that either.

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I have a feeling he's going to
drop that, Like I have a feeling

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that I have a feeling that that
he will end up not being bothered by

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that. But I you know,
for the and for those who like,

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I don't know if that's a Mark
Pope thing or if that's a b YU

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thing, because you know, they're
much they're very much about that's true.

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You know, their brand is like
they're going to be respectful, classy,

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no trash talk and uh you know
that kind of stuff. But Texas came

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to play at BYU this past year
and Mark Pope, I think he led

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his press conference with it about I
guess kind of you know, shaming his

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own fans for doing L's down.
We're not going to do that at all

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end, which he looked like a
huge dork because what what's the issue with

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that? Like that is one thing
I've I've never heard any level of explanation

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as to why that is viewed as
a sensitive thing to outsiders who aren't Texas

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fans, meaning like leagues referees,
Like why is that like the ultimate disrespect

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that is not allowed? Whenever there's
all kinds of different things that like signals

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or gestures that aren't vulgar, aren't, you know, flipping somebody off.

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And it's a part of sports.
It's what makes sports great. But here's

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what Mark Pope had to say earlier
this year when Texas came there to provo

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and he didn't like that their fans
were doing horns down. Thanks guys.

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Hey, if I can, Ty's
gonna be mad at me here. But

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I don't know you guys reporting on
this. Horns down to you guys hearing

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this, and just to know from
our student from our you know, they

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were taking off before the game started, right and from our from the rock

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and from our players and from our
student body, that's just not us.

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That's not how we roll. And
it was just a miscalculation on just a

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couple eager kids, which we love
the eagerness of these fans, but it's

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not what you do here. So
we love all eighteen thousand people in this

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gym. They were incredible at night, and just so you know, that's

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not that's not something that works for
Okay, awesome, Okay, if you

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had a fart sound on your board, I would have you play it right

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after that I mean, come on, I have it, but I wish

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i'd a known what a I mean, that's just lame. And I know

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nobody believes me when I say this. Actually a lot of people do.

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Louisville fans are probably in the same
boat. A lot of them. Others

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are genuinely I think, bothered by
it. But like Kentucky fans, doing

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L's down is a self own more
often than not, like if they're doing

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it when they're playing us and they're
kicking our ass or something, that's different.

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But their obsession with it is adorable, and I mean it's insane.

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I mean, you'll have a recruiting
class, well previously, you know they

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would have a recruiting class where the
entire class essentially is a part of the

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McDonald's American game. Mark Pope.
I don't know if that's gonna happen,

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but you know the UK, you
know hanks that cover the team that are

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there, they're like, well,
would you guys get together? Do dow

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Ells down? Do ellsdown? These
kids don't even know what it means,

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but they'll just do it. They'll
take a picture and you know it gets

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shared by every Kentucky fan in the
world. As if they just really stuck

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it to us, and it's you
know, it's just it's it doesn't make

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any sense, Like I get it. You're like it's one thing to do

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it again during the game, like
when you play each other, but you

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can see the crowd. It's like
a h what do you call it?

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Like a an impulse thing, like
they can't control themselves. I know what

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you mean. Purdue fans do the
same thing with Indiana. They do an

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IU sucks chant, and they did
it during the National championship game in Macki

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Arena. The fans who are watching
it from that venue. It's super lame.

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They do it to the tune of
I don't even know what it's called.

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It's it's just it's a typical stadium
song that they just add IU sucks

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to the end of it. Well
that that's a little different, but they

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still did it when they're during the
National champion But I think that's now that

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that my guess is that that that
that chant is now with the IU sucks

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in it, Like there's no level
of them doing it without that being in

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it, regardless of the situation.
Still lame, but like I just think

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that's I think you'll you'll see at
a football game the camera will pan to

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the crowd who knows the cameras on
and when UK's play an l s U

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and it's the impulse like just can't
control themselves if I can, sorry about

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that anyways, they'll just start throwing
l's down like they can't help themselves.

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Just that's true. Different and the
like again, like I'm not exaggerating family

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together Christmas photos. Hey, everybody, let's get one where kids, you

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guys throw ls down. Me and
mom will do the same. We'll put

406
00:26:56.200 --> 00:26:59.480
it on the Christmas card, send
it to everybody, Like why because you're

407
00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:03.400
obsessed And that's the one like world, we're both obsessed with each other.

408
00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:06.680
That's what makes the rivalry what it
is to an extent. But that's just

409
00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:08.920
weird, Like I don't understand that, Like that's and that doesn't bother a

410
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:12.359
little. It just it's odd.
What is the equivalent? Does Louisville do

411
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:15.599
something like that that bothers UK fans? Not that I know of. Okay,

412
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:22.599
I don't think there's any like gesture
like that. You know, Kentucky

413
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:25.480
fans they tie them out, they
get married, they're getting the wedding photos,

414
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:29.039
got the wedding parties together, and
then they're just doing some shots of

415
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:30.799
the bride and groom and then oh, we got to get one of those

416
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:34.160
down. Like it's just like that. The fact that that comes into mind

417
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:40.039
is just odd to me. And
trust me, like it's not a hey,

418
00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:41.000
yeah, i'd be I'd be doing
that too. Man, you got

419
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:42.599
bragging rights, like no, I
mean, I get it if you do

420
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:45.400
it during the game and if you
want to talk all kinds of nonsense about

421
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:49.839
Louisville, like when when you know, when the opportunity presents itself, knock

422
00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:56.640
yourself out. But the way in
which it's just become like a cultural thing

423
00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:00.680
within their fan base is I don't
even know what the eqivalent would be for

424
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:03.640
any fan base. Now I don't
I don't follow other rivalries. So maybe

425
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:06.240
you know, you just shared one
with me that I think is on the

426
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:07.359
same path. But I think this
is just weirder, is it not.

427
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:11.680
I mean it's weirder because you can
do it in any scenario. Yeah,

428
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:14.599
with the IU sucks one. You
have to do it with the whole chant

429
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:21.559
like I remember in two thousand,
it was in twenty nineteen. Well,

430
00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:26.200
the earlier years of MAC. I
remember I would occasionally, and I'm not

431
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:30.519
kidding you, I would occasionally see
a UK fan at an away game,

432
00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:37.400
no joke, like because they you
know, they live or all or over

433
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:40.880
the planet like I mentioned. And
this isn't like a Hey, you guys

434
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:41.839
come to our games because you're obsessed. I mean you do come to our

435
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.079
games a lot. But like I
remember going to Atlanta for the Georgia Tech

436
00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:49.480
game and there was a couple of
Kentucky fans there and you know, they

437
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:53.480
they came up to me, and
I guess they either knew who I was

438
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:56.240
or just saw that I was,
you know, media there for Louisville.

439
00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:00.240
Like they just started, like they
didn't say anything, just like I wanted

440
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.119
to get my attention and you know, put the l's down and I just

441
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:04.519
did it right back to him.
And they didn't like they didn't know what

442
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:07.279
to do. Like I'm like,
yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah,

443
00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:14.240
like all ll down harder than you
man. So what really, really,

444
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:19.480
honestly, I believe ended whatever relationship
I had with Scott Sadderfield is that

445
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:27.039
I was very it was very very
bothered by the fact that he winded Midfield

446
00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:33.440
about L's down to Mark Stoops after
he got his ass kicked, because it's

447
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:37.039
hard for fans to and I'm not
sure if they'd believe us or not,

448
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.599
but who cares. But like it's
hard for fans to brush it off like

449
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:45.279
they usually do without Kentucky fans,
you know, like they it fueled it

450
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:48.319
and gave it new life, because
if our coach is crying about it after

451
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.480
the game, then they're going to
assume that all of our fans are going

452
00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:53.519
to be crying about it too.
And yeah, we're upset and bothered,

453
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:56.319
pissed off that we got beat.
But like the l's down thing, like

454
00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:03.440
it doesn't do a whole lot till
there's plenty of like triggers in a back

455
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:08.839
and forth trash talking session between Louisville
and Kentucky fans. There's triggers on both

456
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:12.039
sides that will actually get a rise
out of people, right, like a

457
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:17.599
soft spot or just something that like
they claim that you think is just nonsense.

458
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:18.960
But I'm telling you, the L's
down, it doesn't do much,

459
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:22.680
and maybe it does come to an
end just because maybe it's run its course.

460
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:26.759
But like Mark Pope, now that
I just mentioned the other guy's name

461
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:32.160
Saderfield. Like he is he Sadderfield, is he Saturfield. He's got some

462
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:37.759
Saderfield in him. He's got a
little bit of that in him, and

463
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.559
he may win at a high level. Again, I think he's a good

464
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:42.640
coach, and he's a good enough
coach to where he could utilize what's at

465
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:45.480
Kentucky and he could win at a
high level. I don't have any doubt

466
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.440
that that could happen. You never
really know, but I just think it's

467
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:52.799
such a drastic difference in what you
had before with cal And some will say,

468
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:55.000
well, that's refreshing, that's what
we needed, and you maybe you're

469
00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:56.640
right, and if that's what your
opinion is, that's your opinion. But

470
00:30:56.680 --> 00:31:02.119
I just I'm curious if he's shining
down in Fayetteville and this is more of

471
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:07.480
a gradual thing for for pope and
then maybe three years in you kind of

472
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.880
feel like fourth best in the SEC
is just kind of you know where you're

473
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.839
gonna where you are in the pecking
order. I just I know Kentucky fans

474
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.680
won't accept that, and if they
do, whatever, that's their choice,

475
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:21.119
but it would just be much different
than I think what they were used to

476
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:23.440
all right, let's go to the
phone lines. Five O two five seven

477
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:27.599
seventy nine hundred is the number again, five O two five seventy nine hundred

478
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:30.240
the number. Let's get to one
call here before we have to get to

479
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:33.240
a break. Let's go to Travis. Travis, how are you hey?

480
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.759
I'm doing good? How are you
not too bad? Good? Hey?

481
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:41.839
Uh? I just wanted to time
me in on the l's up ells down,

482
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:45.519
saying, well, first of all, as far as Mark Pope's concerns,

483
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:52.680
I have no idea what's gonna happen. I think that it's as you

484
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.480
are called Scott Patterfield as a principal
salad. It was low hanging fruit.

485
00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.720
It was somebody that he knew what
must say. No, yeah, and

486
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:05.720
that's what he went with. Now
what comes of that, we'll see.

487
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:08.400
But as far as the olds up
ells down, I do got to ask

488
00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:14.799
you a question, because I've had
this conversation before. I don't throw ells

489
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:20.640
up, else down, or any
ll speriod, but with that he instead.

490
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:27.400
It's always got on my nerves that
every time a Louisville fan has a

491
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:32.400
picture taken, they instantly throw l's
up. So it's kind of the same

492
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:36.519
thing. It's kind of you know, you're like, I don't know if

493
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:40.440
there's anything that's that annoying to Kentucky
fans, but that's just even if you

494
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:44.200
think it's lame because it's Louisville,
I totally get it. You're a Kentucky

495
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:47.119
fan and it's a rivalry, but
that's just them living in their own world

496
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:51.839
of Louisville and wanting people to know
they're a Louisville fan. The l's down

497
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:55.279
from Kentuck with ells down, that
means that there were not a Louisville fan,

498
00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:59.319
right, Well, then I guess
we must be so dominant with the

499
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:01.119
l's up that you have to clarify, you have to. Maybe that's why

500
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:04.480
every Kentucky fan that calls, which
you didn't, by the way, and

501
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.480
that's fine, but they always say, hey, uh, Kentucky fan here,

502
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.359
which is fine. But you know, I just think the drastic difference

503
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:14.160
there is that Louisville throwing l's up
has nothing to do with anybody but them

504
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:17.480
being Louisville fans. The l's down
is you know, I guess just instead

505
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:22.480
of doing whatever you would do to
classify as a UK fan, you just

506
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:24.640
want to I guess take a shot
at Louisville, which whatever, knock yourself

507
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:27.519
out. Clearly everybody does it.
You claim you don't do it, and

508
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.880
that's cool. But I do think
there's a big difference in like when you

509
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:32.000
want to, like, if you're
at a game, at a Louisvill if

510
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:34.599
you're a louis A game, you
throw the l up like. I think

511
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:36.559
that's what people do. Like,
I get it. If you think it's

512
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:38.240
lame, fine, But if you're
a Kentucky fan, I would think that

513
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:42.480
there would be a level of just
having some kind of a whatever. I

514
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.400
mean, honestly between us, I
think gestures are stupid with the hands.

515
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:47.720
It doesn't do much for me.
But that's what I think the difference is.

516
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:54.039
Yeah, I mean I can see
that. I'm just saying you're saying

517
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:59.160
that every time you tell Elle,
oh, you're just basically claiming that it

518
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:01.720
has nothing to do with it's your
there's nothing new we can doe. No,

519
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:06.599
I agree. But if I go
Elval and it has everything to do

520
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:08.199
with Louisville, meaning I don't like
Louisville, that's fine. And look,

521
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:13.599
you know what, I can actually
respect that because I I'm going to assume

522
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:15.159
that you like not only don't like
Louisville, you probably hate him, and

523
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:19.599
that's what we need in this rivalry. So you've actually given a little bit

524
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:22.199
of context as to why it's just
it's a it's a well known thing among

525
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.280
Kentucky fans that whatever you know about
me, you need to know I don't

526
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:30.239
like Louisville. Is that fair?
What? Okay? Fair enough? Travis?

527
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:31.599
I appreciate the phone call man.
That was a good That was a

528
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:37.800
good back and forth. Like you
know, I love that there's hate between

529
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:39.320
the schools and the fans. I
mean, hopefully don't hate each other and

530
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:43.840
want to, you know, harm
one another. But like, there's nothing

531
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:47.039
that makes a rivalry healthier than hate. I we'll get to the phone calls

532
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:50.039
on the other side. Five of
two, five seven, one, seventy

533
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:51.920
nine hundred. It is the number. It'sffee and Company. We are feel

534
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:55.360
about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk
seven ninety Good stuff here, John,

535
00:34:55.760 --> 00:35:05.760
good stuff. Turn it up.
Does it show you what year this song

536
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:07.719
came out? I know a lot
of times you pull the music from YouTube

537
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:09.960
and it may not show that eighty
one. Yeah, this this was an

538
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:15.760
era that obviously I wasn't alive for
but I feel like I belonged there.

539
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:17.840
I needed to be there. It
does fit your vibe, yeah, chest

540
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:21.559
oh yeah, I take that as
a compliment. All right, five or

541
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:22.840
two, five, seven, seventy
nine hundred is the number if you guys

542
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:24.960
want to jump in and join us
on the phone lines. We'll go back

543
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:28.599
to the phone lines now and welcome
in Mike. Mike, how are you

544
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:31.280
doing this afternoon? I'm doing very
well. How are you doing today?

545
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:38.119
Little brother? Not too bad?
Are you? My older brother? Well?

546
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:40.800
I didn't know I had a brother. Mom, what have you been

547
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:45.760
keeping from me? All the little
vilfas are little Brother? It's a nick

548
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:49.920
name that Eddie Sudden gave you on
and it's been mournerful. It's been so

549
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:57.480
great. Okay, I'm glad you
enjoy it. Yeah, so is that

550
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.960
what you wanted to say? Mike? I just so I have stumbled across

551
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:07.320
your channel and I'm glad you found
us. Yeah, well it was I

552
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:10.840
thought it was a UK show because
it's all it's all UK, UK,

553
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:15.360
Mark Pope UK. Is anything going
on for U of L that you can

554
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:16.840
talk about? Or is it?
I know this is a UK sho,

555
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:24.440
I'm a UK fan. You're no
UK fan? Are you the gatekeeper of

556
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:32.840
BBN I've got I've got credentials to
provide that I'm a member. I'm thinking

557
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:37.039
maybe you're not a fan. Oh
I'm big blue, true, big Blue.

558
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:42.639
I have a feeling you're telling the
truth is that was Is there anything

559
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:45.239
else you wanted to add to,
anything else you wanted to discuss today or

560
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:49.280
just wanted to to say that?
Well, if you want to, if

561
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:51.840
you really want to be a Kentucky
fan, there's plenty of a room,

562
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:53.679
you can always come over to the
Big Blue Nation. I'm already there,

563
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:00.519
Big Mark Pope fan. Thank you
for the Mike. Appreciate you, uh

564
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:05.440
holding for that. Have a good
have a good weekend, my man.

565
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:10.360
I actually like those kind of phone
calls. But I need more, like

566
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:14.960
I need I need, I need
more, I need more. He tricked

567
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.800
me something. He didn't have anything
to say. He just he thought he

568
00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:21.280
was gonna own you. And he
he really in what way like owe me?

569
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.800
How like he's just trying to fire
you up. He just wasn't successful.

570
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:29.719
Yeah that's I mean, I can
get fired up. But hey,

571
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:36.159
little brother, I mean, if
if that if that's the if that's the

572
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:39.920
initial jab in a troll phone call
to try to get somebody worked up and

573
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:44.880
do the rivalry thing. I mean, it's not gonna work. I mean

574
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:50.320
like that. I mean that's like, you know, that's like somebody calling

575
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:53.039
me short, Like, yeah,
I've been short my whole life, Like

576
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:57.159
you're not telling me anything. I
don't know. I'm not in denial that

577
00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:00.159
I'm you know, five foot eight
and on the shorter side, but you

578
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:07.119
know whatever, And in all honesty, my life in the rivalry became a

579
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.280
lot better for me, like it
used to consume me to where like I

580
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:15.480
would not do anything crazy like harm
someone or be nasty, but just like

581
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:20.719
I would never stop yelling, like
I would just have endless back and forth

582
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:23.599
with Kentucky fans. That it hit
me that, like, look, you

583
00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:29.559
love Kentucky, I love Louisville.
We're never going to convince one another on

584
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:31.920
anything. So what are we doing? What are we yelling about? So

585
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:37.079
once I just realized that, like, there's nothing I'm gonna say that it's

586
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:40.480
going to change the way they feel, and there's nothing they're going to say

587
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:45.920
to change the way I feel.
Like does mean we can't talk and converse,

588
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:50.559
but like as far as just like
the you know, nastiness of it,

589
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:54.599
I just I don't really go there
because it doesn't I mean, and

590
00:38:54.639 --> 00:39:00.440
to be honest with you, like
Louisville hasn't, you know, hasn't really

591
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:04.840
you know, had a whole lot
of ammunition on the basketball side of things

592
00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:09.960
in a while. So maybe that's
part of it. I know some people

593
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:13.559
probably like that, like the yelling
and the and that, but that's just

594
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:20.039
not me. You know, I'm
gonna to talk to my mom because she's

595
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:24.280
been she's been keeping it from me
that I got a big brother. That's

596
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:29.679
pretty shameful. And I'm kidding for
like those who just now turned on the

597
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:31.400
radio and heard that, Like I
don't have a big brother. My mom

598
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:36.039
didn't keep anything from me. But
you know, it's gotta be careful about

599
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:38.199
you know. I have that fear
of somebody just popping in write at a

600
00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:43.840
certain moment and hear hearing hearing a
sentence and just thinking, what the hell

601
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:45.199
is what's going on here? So
anyways, quick break, we'll come back

602
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:47.079
on the other side, get back
to your phone calls, keep this thing

603
00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:51.480
rolling along. Five o'clock hours next, right, here on Sports Talk seven ninety