1 00:00:06,919 --> 00:00:12,080 Everybody, thanks for coming to another episode of Adventures in Angola. I'm the 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,399 host, Aaron Frost, I work with Hero Devs and Energi komf and some 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,199 other fun things. Today on the panel, we have a full panel. 4 00:00:19,399 --> 00:00:23,600 We have Listen Ichel Hello, Hello, so glad to be here joining you 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,480 from the road. So I apologize for the noise the road. The one 6 00:00:27,519 --> 00:00:30,800 and only. We have Jennifer Woodella. Hi, I may or may not 7 00:00:30,839 --> 00:00:37,759 have food poisoning two right now, that's awesome, good luck on not having 8 00:00:37,799 --> 00:00:46,600 it. We have Shisnick and I have food poisoning. So yeah, confirmed 9 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:52,719 food poisoning and be love Brian love from Europe. Still, yes, that's 10 00:00:52,799 --> 00:00:57,719 right, yep. We are in regularly in the country of Navia oil here. 11 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,439 That wasn't me, you know. I bet you guys thought I wasn't 12 00:01:00,479 --> 00:01:04,480 gonna do the OI anymore because of the weird faces Jennifer makes me when I 13 00:01:04,519 --> 00:01:08,640 do it. But what I was in Vegas that people were like, I 14 00:01:08,719 --> 00:01:12,640 love the OI, So sorry, Jennifer. You need You're gonna need to 15 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:18,439 persuade someone to say not to say it next time they see me, because 16 00:01:18,439 --> 00:01:21,000 I'm laughing, like, don't get me wrong, I am like all the 17 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:30,359 way team OI team. So I have a few sound effects ready for this 18 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,719 one. I haven't literally like the slide whistle like the original one from the 19 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:40,280 stage. Like, oh, that's awesome. Great. You know you can 20 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,959 just do comments in the show notes and I'll put them in for you. 21 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,879 What. Yeah, yeah, they'll edit them in after the fact. Just 22 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,319 wait, steal is fun. Sorry, and I'm sure they'll sound just as 23 00:01:49,319 --> 00:01:56,359 good. They actually finding me that was actually really good. Okay, cool. 24 00:01:56,799 --> 00:01:59,599 So we have a guest today, though sometimes we don't have a guest 25 00:01:59,599 --> 00:02:04,239 today, we'd you slow me as introduce yourself so that the community you know 26 00:02:04,319 --> 00:02:07,519 who you are. Hi. My name is SLOMMI. I work at share 27 00:02:07,599 --> 00:02:12,039 Game. It's a finding company based in Israel and London. I do mostly 28 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,599 frontent. I'm working with Angula for a lot for years now. I think 29 00:02:16,719 --> 00:02:22,280 the IF talking about about the new Angla So it's from the start, from 30 00:02:22,319 --> 00:02:27,520 the first alphas, loving it and want to thank the Angular thing for the 31 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:32,000 product. I also contributed some quote to the Angle project. I think I 32 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,280 think I remember correctly. I came up with the idea of the idea of 33 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:42,759 the component template, implemented it and Mishco I think wapped it up and pushed 34 00:02:42,759 --> 00:02:46,840 everything after it. So love Angula and happy to be here. Guys, 35 00:02:47,039 --> 00:02:51,479 thank you. I have to say that I personally know Shlomi as a good 36 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:57,680 friend and is one of the smartest people you'll ever meet, especially regarding to 37 00:02:57,759 --> 00:03:02,039 Angular. So no pressure, good luck in this episodeng Yeah n b D 38 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:07,240 you'll be fine. Yeah, so schlom me. Today we're talking about EDG 39 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:13,159 grid. Yes, all right, there's another similar so you were talking about 40 00:03:13,159 --> 00:03:20,479 the same thing. It's angry like there's no G and angry angry like angry 41 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:27,319 yeah okay for Angular Yeah yeah, it's like n G grid but angry in 42 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:32,680 one something like that. One of them does the one last gam make it 43 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:38,919 more efficient. It's a quicker instault with yarn or mp M you know. 44 00:03:39,199 --> 00:03:46,680 Yeah, ye, they did the research. The pol issue, I have 45 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:52,719 to say, was ng x grid taken. I didn't check, maybe, 46 00:03:53,560 --> 00:04:00,000 but it's it's under the scope. So so it's uh, if you want 47 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,400 instolid the scope is pebula angry. Don't again, don't ask me about the 48 00:04:03,479 --> 00:04:08,080 naming name. It's very difficult, but pebula is like you can paste it 49 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,080 in the in the chatted the show, so we'll put it on the side. 50 00:04:12,439 --> 00:04:15,439 Yeah, sure, angried, like what did you create it? Basically? 51 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:20,720 It started the two and some months years ago. I needed agreed that 52 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:29,000 was that you can customize within my the company that I previously walked in Cisco. 53 00:04:29,519 --> 00:04:33,079 So I started working on it and a bit by bit it was just 54 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:39,199 created itself as an open source project and western history. I was young and 55 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:45,959 needed the greed. That's what you said something like that, So so you 56 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,720 open sorted from the start. Yeah, I wanted to work with the CIDK 57 00:04:50,399 --> 00:04:55,560 table. Cidyk has a lot of pictures. I wanted something that I can 58 00:04:55,639 --> 00:05:00,519 plug into pictures. And because the cidyk was an open also, I thought 59 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,439 that putting it open source a big with idea. I of course started as 60 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:09,319 a side pollect in my walks, so there's no issues there and now I 61 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:15,079 think it's very mature and ready to get more traction. Up until this point, 62 00:05:15,319 --> 00:05:17,879 I didn't publish it, so there's no traction right now. Have you 63 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:23,279 tested the other solution before you start creating it or just created in parallel? 64 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:29,240 Yes, I did test some projects that exist in angle and Gistata table. 65 00:05:29,759 --> 00:05:33,439 Maybe I think aging grid, but age Grade was a license, so I 66 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:43,319 wanted something open source completely without any issue with licensing, and eng had some 67 00:05:43,439 --> 00:05:47,560 issues that I had some problem working. For example, it had it mutated 68 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:53,240 the records that you provide to the data souls to the LATA paper. So 69 00:05:53,399 --> 00:05:59,639 it was an issue for us because it created problems with objects and we wanted 70 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,079 customability. We wanted to be able to plug plug into stuff in opt in 71 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:09,439 pictures. So if I want to have Dragon rob we're using the keyboard use 72 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,000 of the mouse, I just add a directive on it which comes from a 73 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,040 different library, a different package, and then you just get that feature instead 74 00:06:16,079 --> 00:06:19,680 of having it all in one place in one grip. So this is true 75 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:25,800 for the copy paste ability for a selection for columns. If you want to 76 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,600 have like a checkbox columns, then you can also edits as a plug in. 77 00:06:29,959 --> 00:06:32,959 Everything basically is a plug in except some cold features within the table. 78 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:38,000 And because Angela has directive, this is a great way to introduce plug in. 79 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:43,360 Yeah. I'm looking at the npm JS page and you got a bunch 80 00:06:43,439 --> 00:06:47,680 of sub packages, which is cool. I'm wondering how much that how much 81 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,879 that shrinks the size of it, like having them broken out all the individual 82 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,399 packages. I'm hoping it helps with the size. Yes, so it does, 83 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,800 but I didn't check. But think about like for example, Dragon, 84 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,759 So if you want to have drag and Drop, you add the package which 85 00:07:01,759 --> 00:07:08,160 also adds the CDK Dragon Drop package. Otherwise you see it cascades and you 86 00:07:08,199 --> 00:07:11,680 get lots of layers. So just for the Drag and Drop you if you 87 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,560 don't want it, to save both the silk drug and and this the library 88 00:07:15,879 --> 00:07:21,680 the specifically drug package. So I don't know about the size, but I 89 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:27,519 think it does save some significant significant bandal size. You can also by the 90 00:07:27,519 --> 00:07:31,240 way, I'll past the link to the pages to the URL for the documentation 91 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,959 I have. I also want to say that this is also one of the 92 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:44,680 things that I'm now ready to elicit because the documentation is more mature and you 93 00:07:44,759 --> 00:07:48,600 have a selch like you have in the Anglar side and the documentation beans and 94 00:07:48,759 --> 00:07:53,000 Servi side rendering as well, so on the Gita pages you have full less 95 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,680 soul for Google. So now it's a lot more mature. Of course, 96 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,079 everyone wants to help with documenting stuff and contributing to the product is much welcome. 97 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:07,319 I'll just based you also have links to stag plates I see and yes 98 00:08:07,519 --> 00:08:13,600 for issues and the demos Delle. Of course I have alsome to say that 99 00:08:13,639 --> 00:08:20,279 the grid itself is uiagnostics, so it doesn't really have a style like material, 100 00:08:20,399 --> 00:08:24,839 for example, unless you edit. So there's another package called and with 101 00:08:24,959 --> 00:08:31,279 material which adds material talent theming, because again the grid itself is fully timmy 102 00:08:31,319 --> 00:08:35,440 values in sus. The filming system is very it's not similar to the material 103 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:41,960 thing systems. So it can provitalit to it define the size of the woes 104 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:46,840 and you know the cells and with and stuff like that, and you can 105 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,360 build on top of that. So I give examples of how you do it 106 00:08:48,399 --> 00:08:52,639 with angry with material, but of course if I have time or if someone 107 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:58,440 wants to help, I bid a bootstop example and other stuff. And a 108 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,519 good example for this is that, for example, if you have a cell 109 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:07,200 and the cell is truncated like ellipses at three dots at the end, then 110 00:09:07,799 --> 00:09:11,200 there is a planning called the tilt tip from the material. So it is 111 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:16,120 the til tip to show you the full the full text behind the tunket itself, 112 00:09:16,279 --> 00:09:20,600 and of course it will only do it if it's tunted. If not, 113 00:09:20,519 --> 00:09:24,360 so what I'm hearing is that you're looking for people to help you with 114 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:30,720 documentation, with with other stuff on the project. So just a word again 115 00:09:30,799 --> 00:09:35,200 a recommendation if you if you want to learn from someone who knows a lot 116 00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:39,960 of angular join this project and I'm sure Schloman will guide you and help you 117 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,440 with that. I'm curious about the challenges that you had building this project, 118 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:50,000 because it seems like a super gigantic like project to take on and you have 119 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,440 like ag Grid, who is a whole company around just one grid, so 120 00:09:56,639 --> 00:10:01,240 and you are one person, although using the power of material of the CDK, 121 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,240 but like the relationship between the CITYK, how much code did you use 122 00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:09,360 from there? And also what challenges did you have? So there of course 123 00:10:09,399 --> 00:10:13,799 a lot of challenges. But the CITYK has a lot of the building blocks 124 00:10:13,799 --> 00:10:18,600 that you need to build application. There are some things that go up as 125 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,519 the CITYK grows up, and of course I have television a lot of things 126 00:10:22,519 --> 00:10:26,360 based on this dependency, but in general it helps a lot. One thing 127 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:31,080 that the CITYK lacks is the ability to extend it easily, so most a 128 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,360 lot of things are implemented is a private functions, private method, which is 129 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,200 I think an issue with we've gone into the CDK because those are building blocks, 130 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,399 so it is they should be protected. It's not public, but protected 131 00:10:43,519 --> 00:10:46,360 is okay. So if I extend it, I can do it easily. 132 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:50,720 So there are some challenge there. Those mainly revolve around around the DRAG and 133 00:10:50,799 --> 00:10:56,879 DLOP future. But I don't know that virtuals calling was very very nice to 134 00:10:56,919 --> 00:11:03,279 get for free from the CDK. Of course it required adaption and other stuff, 135 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,320 but all in all, the CILITK was a great power behind this. 136 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,080 So how long did it take you to implement like all the features and get 137 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:16,320 this done? So again it's about for a period of two years. But 138 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,919 I have to say again, because it's a plug in based architecture, you 139 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,960 can do it just piece by piece and and as we get requests from the 140 00:11:24,879 --> 00:11:28,360 from from my team, from from the product and I can implement them. 141 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,759 For example, I I didn't have a state persistant capability, so if you 142 00:11:31,919 --> 00:11:37,080 change the size of the cell or you remove one of the sales hide it, 143 00:11:37,399 --> 00:11:41,399 then you wanted to be saved. So the request came from from the 144 00:11:41,399 --> 00:11:45,639 product and I just implemented as a different package. And then you can just 145 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,960 optin requested persistant you just need to give an ID to the table of course 146 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,440 to the grid, and then you just have it for free and you can 147 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,600 customize it if you want what to say, what to say, when to 148 00:11:54,639 --> 00:11:58,440 say, stuff like that. So I have a question. I'd like to 149 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,279 give you chance to sell me. You've already talked about a lot of the 150 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,519 features. You talked about a lot of a lot of a lot. But 151 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,919 like I'm a community member, right, so I don't really Let's pretend I 152 00:12:11,919 --> 00:12:16,799 don't know who wrote en gr Ingrid, who wrote a g grid, who 153 00:12:16,799 --> 00:12:20,799 wrote booststrapped table? Like why would I want to use yours? Like what 154 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,039 are the what are the selling points? You know what I'm saying, like 155 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,159 what is what is it going to make me say? I'm in I'm in 156 00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:31,360 dan grid? And maybe just to add to that, like also Ingram material 157 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,120 has a grid, right, and I mean if we're listening, Kendo Ui 158 00:12:35,159 --> 00:12:39,039 has a grid, yeah, Kendo. And also also my cousin has a 159 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,320 grade. So all the big computer libraries have a grid. Right, Like 160 00:12:43,759 --> 00:12:48,559 when I started living, I did have some pain points and you can talk 161 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,440 about You mentioned the material grid, which is a good example because in the 162 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:58,039 material grade you have agreed that you have need to provide the templates within. 163 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:05,000 For if we sell all have a generic cell that shows everything. Let's say 164 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,639 that you want to show a numerical value based on physical value, financial value, 165 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:16,080 and you want to have two seven two digits after the dot. I 166 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,799 don't know five fur. You can create types. You can create a column 167 00:13:18,879 --> 00:13:24,440 type and then you can build it as a template in one place and then 168 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,399 use it throughout all the grids in your application. So just in the column 169 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:33,919 you specify this column is of type double and I want to have like two 170 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,559 digits after the dot, and then you'll get it for free for the entire 171 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,720 application. And you don't don't need to provide any templates within the grid itself. 172 00:13:41,759 --> 00:13:46,600 You just in your component page template. You just write in the HTML, 173 00:13:46,639 --> 00:13:50,600 you write the grid markup and you don't have to provide anything inside because 174 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,039 you already defined a generic template. The same example can be four flags. 175 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,519 Let's say you have a country. You want to show the flag, so 176 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:01,600 you can build one template that knows how to get flag based on some code 177 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,120 and then just the space and that's it. And then when you create a 178 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,679 column, you just say, hey, this column is a type country and 179 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,519 then you get it for free for the entire application, and then people can 180 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:18,519 build their own text for columns and use them and maybe publish them, which 181 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,720 will be then very for other people to The concept are going to do in 182 00:14:22,759 --> 00:14:26,879 the future is to have also validated for the for the columns of things that 183 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:33,240 can play with the column itself based on its type. And this is a 184 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,440 very powerful picture. I don't think I want to get too deep into the 185 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:41,799 implementation, but in general the implementation is based on the dependens the injection mechanism 186 00:14:41,799 --> 00:14:46,039 of angules. So you can define your templates in the root of your application 187 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,759 and then it is for the entire application. But you can also define a 188 00:14:50,799 --> 00:14:56,399 templat within the grid with inside the content of the grid in the markup, 189 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,360 and then it will overwrite anything that you've previously done. You can play with 190 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:05,320 it based on a dependence injection because just the service for templates it has it's 191 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:09,799 linked to a parent, so you have everyone as a parent, and the 192 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,360 top level parent shares everything that you created in the OOD apps, so it's 193 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:18,399 very easy to overlight and customize. Okay, So that was regarding the templating 194 00:15:18,399 --> 00:15:22,480 system, which is very easy to use. Now you don't have to in 195 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:28,600 material grid, you have to do it for every time, for every instance 196 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:33,720 that you are rendering the template. Another thing that is very easy is how 197 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,519 you create, So templating is a bit easier with angered, is what you're 198 00:15:37,519 --> 00:15:39,840 saying, because that can be in pain. That can make it harder to 199 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,879 use because you have to retype and retype and copy, and what happens when 200 00:15:43,879 --> 00:15:46,840 you want to maintain it the factor it it's very painful. Yeah, So 201 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:52,639 okay, so the temple size with your angrid is going to be a big 202 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,559 selling for itself, Like, yeah, this is one of the things. 203 00:15:56,679 --> 00:16:02,519 Another thing is the fact always for creating a data source and for creating columns. 204 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:08,200 So basically it's a Fluent API style way of creating columns. So creating 205 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,960 the columns in the grid can be very completed because you have the classic head 206 00:16:14,039 --> 00:16:18,639 and footo, but they can also have multiple headers, group grouping and other 207 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,039 stuff. So it can be very hard to create in the basic form you 208 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:27,799 created in Jeron objects. But I've also created the factory function that is using 209 00:16:27,879 --> 00:16:32,679 Fluent API, you can create you can create it in very very easy and 210 00:16:32,759 --> 00:16:37,200 the both ways you find the table to find a default settings for all of 211 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,759 the columns and then define the columns one by one. Of course, it 212 00:16:40,879 --> 00:16:45,159 supports deep access, so if you say X, why dot z, it 213 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:51,840 will access all the ex or why using the properties all okay also supported there. 214 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,799 The other feature and nice feature, is handling the data source because if 215 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:02,279 you think about grades and data sours, there are several complexities that you need 216 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,440 to address. So for instance, if you have all of the data in 217 00:17:06,559 --> 00:17:11,759 your client, then you want pagination. You want filtering and sulthing to be 218 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,160 local in the client, implemented with in the client. But what if you 219 00:17:15,279 --> 00:17:18,200 have it on the server. If you have a pagenation based on the server, 220 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,559 salting and filtering based on the server, then you have to do a 221 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,720 call every time back and forth. So this was a challenge because I didn't 222 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,839 want to create different ways of dealing with this. So the table comes with 223 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:37,559 difficult salting, filteringgenation ability for client side data sources with all the data is 224 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,039 in the client. But if you want to do it on a server side, 225 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:45,680 you can do it very easily because it's the same implementation and maybe I 226 00:17:45,799 --> 00:17:51,039 can show an example just how it is. Of course, it exists on 227 00:17:51,279 --> 00:17:56,519 the documentations. Well, I think it's better to point to the documentation because 228 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:02,519 people will hear it but won't see. So we can I can point to 229 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:07,440 the commendation. I just taste a link as I do it, so you 230 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,119 can see the side. If you can see, of course, and then 231 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,960 you have a data sauce factory that took. It's easy to use. Basically, 232 00:18:17,039 --> 00:18:18,839 this is what you need to create a data sauce. You just need 233 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,559 to create a fresh function for the for the sauce. You just provide a 234 00:18:23,599 --> 00:18:30,839 function a handler that goes and retribute the promise or observable or an array with 235 00:18:30,079 --> 00:18:33,640 data sauce. So this is a trigger function. So every time it gets 236 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:40,359 called with an event object, what you do? So what's going on? 237 00:18:40,519 --> 00:18:44,880 Sorry? So let's say give I provide a function that deurns an array of 238 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,960 one to three, and then someone wants the next page. So in the 239 00:18:48,039 --> 00:18:52,799 event handler, I will get the reason for the figures. So this can 240 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,640 be appaccination change. This can be a salt change and of course with the 241 00:18:56,799 --> 00:19:00,519 change, and then you can see that a lot of because they can have 242 00:19:00,599 --> 00:19:03,200 a filter a trigger request and you can get the filter and do the filter 243 00:19:03,279 --> 00:19:07,319 by it. You can get a salt perge request, or you can get 244 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:14,680 anything that comes with the tender, and you decide when you create the data 245 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,559 source. You'll say you can say create amssauce and do many interiors for filters, 246 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,119 salting, platination, or just for pagination. Then that's also do it 247 00:19:23,279 --> 00:19:29,000 for you, and you just need to handle the very basic get and get 248 00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:33,599 requests. Usually because it's a it's a sink and it works very nicely because 249 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,400 usually you'll have those paginations in some kind of form of some kind of state. 250 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,839 So if you do it in the context of your class or your component, 251 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,440 you just need to call the function again. And because the data, 252 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,200 the pagination for data is changed in your form or in your state, if 253 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:53,039 you just get that thing and post it again automatically, and it's when I 254 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,359 use it in that in our application, it's very easy. It's very easy 255 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,000 to do the data sol thing. It's very easy to get every into place 256 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,279 quickly. That's awesome. Yeah, that's powerful. I've used a couple of 257 00:20:04,319 --> 00:20:08,799 different tables and every table is different on high Upacity data. It's pretty nice. 258 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,000 Yeah, I wanted to make it simple. Just give me a giving 259 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,960 a function with the data. If you want to do something more complex, 260 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,599 use the valtenda for that, do your logic. So everything should be very 261 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:23,920 simple for the initial use. Do you use a virtual scroll? Yes, 262 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:27,000 I did have a votual scroll. It's only at the moment, it's only 263 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:33,640 vertical scrolling. So if you want to google spacing splectric like thing like like 264 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,319 one hundred columns, there's no virtual scalling. It wasn't a scalling for that 265 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,839 because of the reason that material, the cility case sclling doesn't support both at 266 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,240 the same time. So I wanted to implement the class and virtual was more 267 00:20:45,279 --> 00:20:49,680 important, So I did a virtual s calling for the first phase. And 268 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,680 I also wanted to know that there is a very very smart way system for 269 00:20:55,319 --> 00:21:02,279 controlling the size the separation of with for every cell. For every column. 270 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,799 You can say, okay, this is the grid. It's it has a 271 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:11,640 minimum with of I don't know, one thousand pixels. Then you can rearrange 272 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,400 the width of every cell, so you can give it a cell the width 273 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,000 of in percentage, or you can give it in a fixed pixel value. 274 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,000 If you give fixed values, if the total amount is going above the minimum 275 00:21:23,079 --> 00:21:26,559 of the with the table, then you get the scull value with a score 276 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,160 valve and if it's less, it will alto complete it for you. You 277 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:40,359 can there's a functionality for automatically just a width of columns, but you can 278 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:45,799 also send a mean and max values for your white with values for your columns. 279 00:21:45,839 --> 00:21:48,440 So you can say this is the minimum RTE of twenty pixel, but 280 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,200 I want to I wanted to be twenty percent, so it will go. 281 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,799 But when shrinks, it shrinks up to a point, and the same goes 282 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,599 from max with samething, but in the other direction. So it's very smart 283 00:22:00,599 --> 00:22:03,240 and you can play with it. At some point. It's complexity because you 284 00:22:03,319 --> 00:22:07,000 need to understand what you're doing. But as with all pictures, that's really 285 00:22:07,039 --> 00:22:10,680 cool. It sounds like you've really put a lot of time and effort into 286 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,400 the future set. Maybe they kind of change years a little bit. Can 287 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,000 you talk a little bit about performance of the grid. So if I've got, 288 00:22:15,559 --> 00:22:18,880 for whatever reason, maybe I've got a large enterprise application I'm loading in 289 00:22:19,279 --> 00:22:23,200 you know, thousands or perhaps tens of thousands of you know, records and 290 00:22:23,319 --> 00:22:26,839 data, how well does it handle kind of the performance and the scrolling and 291 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:32,920 all that. Because the table is virtual, s call you can just once 292 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,920 you enable it, it will just you know, walk out of the box 293 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:41,000 and there's no performance issues there because the implementation itself is using the virtual score 294 00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:47,720 from the CILK, so max under the roes are depending on the viewpoint, 295 00:22:47,759 --> 00:22:49,640 but they are not more than like, I don't know, ten or fifteen 296 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:56,599 or twenty rows. So right, yeah, so then you can just just 297 00:22:56,799 --> 00:23:03,160 like replace only the data and not the elements themselves. It's called so you 298 00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:07,680 do get the performance there, but of course it also depends on implementation. 299 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,759 If you if you create very complex sales, then they have to compute every 300 00:23:11,799 --> 00:23:17,319 time. It doesn't matter. Even if they don't, doesn't you still have 301 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,440 a lot of checks and change detection cycles. Then you have a lot of 302 00:23:21,559 --> 00:23:26,640 bindings will be expensive. So basically it does have performance, but it's the 303 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:32,279 same as age degree though any other. If you'll create very complex cell timplus 304 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:37,039 then you have performance issues based on you know, the complexity of yourself. 305 00:23:38,319 --> 00:23:45,960 That mister with me, by the way, because the grid itself again uses 306 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:55,640 the CDKS called so you can see nobody will say it okay, so I'll 307 00:23:55,799 --> 00:24:00,400 just say it. So because it's based on the CDK virtual's call, you 308 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:06,680 can have a fixed scoll so you're always high is based on the fixed high 309 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,440 in pixels. All you can have an automatic one that does the calculation in 310 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:17,079 delicate as the calculation for you and then you get the call automatically calculated. 311 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:23,039 And this is again for free from from the city K guys. So you 312 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:29,680 mentioned briefly about service side rendering. Does this thing working like native script and 313 00:24:29,799 --> 00:24:36,839 service side rendering? Service side rendering walks because the table itself documentation side is 314 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,559 built during service identery. So I generated the pages in HTML so and then 315 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:48,680 pull them to get up so it supports as so so server side reading when 316 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,440 I tested it works. I don't know about this is if it was the 317 00:24:52,519 --> 00:24:59,160 TL it actually touches the dome material itself with other legs and other stuff in 318 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,839 material it does directly don't might not work with a native script, but it 319 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,319 may work with ionic because I still in a webcait right, yeah, but 320 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,000 you also have you know, we need to take into constitution. This is 321 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,240 a very complex library, and I'm not sure it's possible or smouth to go 322 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:21,759 and pursue with things like you know, a native scapt or render in render 323 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:30,559 environment because then indivirtual don't. It's a virtual calling itself is very difficult. 324 00:25:30,599 --> 00:25:34,720 Then you have to have like direct access to a web ale compilations and stuff 325 00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:40,240 like that. Yeah, and I'm not sure it will work and it be 326 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,680 very easy Tom, And maybe I don't know. I think it's very to 327 00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:45,880 be very difficult. Okay, that's that actually answered a lot of my questions 328 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:51,039 for me. I could see this being a useful piece to a project. 329 00:25:51,839 --> 00:25:56,400 Yeah, I have a serious question. Can you add like when when you 330 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:02,920 do the virtual scroll, can you add like sound effects they like something like 331 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,559 that. Yes, yes you can because you get events and you can listen 332 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,599 to them and I wouldn't do that. But good question. Yeah, thank 333 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,480 you, that was serious. If you do mention virtuous call, uh, 334 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,960 there's a feature that I've implemented there which is kind of related to me being 335 00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:26,240 crazy, but I'll contest. So once you do calling, the browser kicks 336 00:26:26,319 --> 00:26:32,279 in and does it his magic with GPU stuff. A lot of the calculation 337 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,559 and calling to the smooth behavior. You need to use the GPU. Once 338 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,359 this happens, no matter what you do in your jama skip code, the 339 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,680 refresh will be six different per a second doesn't matter, So you can do 340 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,440 you can see. It happens in a lot of quids that once you do 341 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,400 very very fast calling, you'll get a blank blank table will render once the 342 00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:56,559 calling stops. This happens because the virtuals calling, especially if you have a 343 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,039 house with a wheel, it's too fast for things to keep rendering. So 344 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,359 you just get a blank a blank page, a blank table. And the 345 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:11,119 reason behind that is that you go you mutually, you go too far below 346 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:17,359 and you don't see anything that's just below the renders content. So this botted 347 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,119 me because I wanted to say, hey, if I wanted to limit the 348 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:27,039 scalling, does don't allow people to score very very fast or minimize it to 349 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,680 a certain point. So I actually build a work on for that. It's 350 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,359 only for desk, of course, because doing it for mobile devices is uh, 351 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,759 we just killed the experience because the sclling is native with swipes. But 352 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,240 so that's what you can just say, Hey, I don't want to automatically 353 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:51,079 use scalling using GPU. I want to disable GPS polling and I want to 354 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,720 limit it to refer shit that I define. So you could say I want 355 00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:57,640 to have at least twenty five time per second render. So if you do 356 00:27:57,799 --> 00:28:02,039 that, you'll get the scrolling of twenty five from a second. If you 357 00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:07,440 do go below that, you'll get the blank sting like normal behavior. So 358 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,839 it's very cool because I also saw some people do use it, but it's 359 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:17,960 it's very nice because you can actually choose I want to have a blocking behavior, 360 00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:22,119 so you never get a call, you never get the anting block. 361 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,480 And you can also have an FPS counter that I've implemented within the grid, 362 00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:29,240 so you can see the FPS that happens, and you can have a threshold 363 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,359 and say, okay, if I go below thirty one, do a blank 364 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,920 skin which happens here. And person mode is just the old way and it 365 00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:44,279 happens on every grid out there. And this helped people crazy people like me 366 00:28:44,519 --> 00:28:49,839 to have to have this teacher and that's basically about this. Wow nice, 367 00:28:51,079 --> 00:28:56,039 that sounds complice. Yeah, it was complicated, but it devolves me crazy 368 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,480 and I just had to, you know, have the ability to have a 369 00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:03,599 blocking Yeah. So if you do a very very very fast goal, you 370 00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:07,440 still see the page in front of you. The roles they'll just under one 371 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,839 after the other. That's very cool. Can you talked a little bit about 372 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,799 version support, So if I'm an English six, seven or eight, can 373 00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:18,480 I expect us to work with my application or do I have to be on 374 00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:22,559 the latest version of any? Yeah, So that depends on the updates that 375 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,039 you want to get, because for example, on version seven you can go 376 00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:33,400 and use any Basically, the issues the IVY because from version eight the entire 377 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:40,720 compilation process has changed and the metadata published a bit different and the other stuff 378 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:47,440 behind the scenes makes it impossible for angle A seven to rue ANGLEA eight compile 379 00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:52,640 packages. It's impossible if you compile something with Anglo eight compiler if you not 380 00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:55,160 work with the angle of seven. Right, but do you have a version 381 00:29:55,359 --> 00:30:00,599 that works with English seven or I do? But since I've upgreated to Anglo 382 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:06,759 eight, okay, good updates because it will be very complicated. Just back 383 00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:10,880 and sure just to walk on versions seven back fix you have to yawn everything 384 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,680 back and install all the note modules and it's clear, got it? And 385 00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:18,680 I don't have the power or capacity to do that. Yeah, and again 386 00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:22,160 materials and I do not work on that, so I have to stick with 387 00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:25,839 matical and they don't op it. So basically they they say, hey, 388 00:30:26,319 --> 00:30:29,920 update Angler, don't don't stay behind. So you do have a vision to 389 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,279 walk with Angler seven. But the same way that Angla cyd K doesn't have 390 00:30:34,359 --> 00:30:40,200 any following version for seven degree doesn't as well. Got it? So your 391 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,559 best bet ultimately is probably to go with version eight and and that's going to 392 00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:47,680 be best supported. Got it? Yes? Yes, very cool? Thank 393 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,799 you. Good good to know. I think my questions are all kind of 394 00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:55,119 wrapped up. How's everyone else? So yeah, thank you so much for 395 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,000 coming on. Ye yes, thank you, thank you for having me, 396 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,839 and thank you. We still have picks. Yeah, we still have picks. 397 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,279 And before picks, I kind of wanted to I kind of wanted to 398 00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:08,720 talk about something. It's kind of big for the community, if we could 399 00:31:10,359 --> 00:31:12,920 take a second. So when this show comes out the very next day, 400 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:22,440 tickets for ingy comf go on sale. Yeah, grab hut. I mean 401 00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:26,000 this is the greatest show. This this this event is is fun and this 402 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:33,200 is will be what. I will be there. No, don't give me 403 00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:41,480 no back. I will be there. A yeah, I I I I 404 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:48,880 will I will be there. You both sound so sure. It's a statement 405 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,039 in question for him because Shy is on a speaking hiatus. Anyway, I 406 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:57,200 know I know that Listen will be there. Oh my goodness, would not 407 00:31:57,319 --> 00:32:01,759 miss it for the world be will be there absolutely, you know, will 408 00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:06,480 be given a workshop. That's right. I'm gonna be doing the Angular Fundamentals 409 00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:08,519 two day workshop ahead of the conference. So if you're new to Angler, 410 00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:13,680 come out and join me and take a deep dive into a typescript and Angler 411 00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:17,039 and all things around that. So tickets go on sale October first, ten 412 00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:22,960 am, Mountain Center ten. That's GMT min minus seven. I think, 413 00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:28,359 yeah, yeah, seven, yeah, So that means like late in the 414 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,480 afternoon for people in Europe. I guess right once that like four pm, 415 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,079 three five pm, it's like five pm. Year. Anyway, those those 416 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,039 first tickets, they're the like the best deal. They kind of disappear almost 417 00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:44,039 immediately, and then the rest of the tickets will be on sale kind of 418 00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:49,039 immediately thereafter. But the other thing that kind of kicks off that day is 419 00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:51,839 the CFP and I kind of wanted to take a second and chat about that 420 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,960 because cfps are hard, right, Like am I talking to myself? Cefps 421 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,880 can be scarce. They they they are hard and getting rejected it's even worse. 422 00:33:05,839 --> 00:33:10,920 Thanks shy uh the sincerity and that I appreciate it. So, like 423 00:33:12,039 --> 00:33:14,680 I don't know, they're scary they're they're scary a lot of people, and 424 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:20,599 I just wanted to throw this out there that you know, I'm always available 425 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,319 on Twitter to review like an idea someone might have. And if you're a 426 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:30,000 home address, if you want to come over to my house even then you 427 00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:37,720 could just stop by I live and tell a beef no ye. So but 428 00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:40,839 if you invite me to tacos, I'll probably be like, yeah, we 429 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:46,440 get tacos, and I'll talk about your talk talking about toxic tacos. Yeah. 430 00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:50,519 So, but I just wanted to throw out of there if anyone has 431 00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:54,799 an idea is bounce them off me at on the twitters. And I'm guessing 432 00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:58,799 Alyssa, Shi, Brian you guys will be willing to help out with that 433 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,920 stuff too. Oh yeah, oh yeah absolutely, of course. Yeah. 434 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,799 The three of you guys are veteran speakers at the conference and a lot of 435 00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:12,199 conferences. So if anyone hasn't needs any help, reach out to us on 436 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,639 Twitter, because it can be scary to try and get your ideas accepted by 437 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:20,159 the gun and we want to make sure that that you have the support you 438 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,280 need and that you're not just kind of floating out your ideas without bouncing them 439 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:28,320 off someone first, I have a talk suggesting for anyone who is interested. 440 00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:35,039 It's called ivy wat. I mean, yeah, yeah, everybody will you 441 00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:38,000 know, be on the same page. Everybody will know you know about IVY 442 00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:44,159 because it's released anyway. So no, no, just kidding, but yeah, 443 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:49,800 feel free. I always help like anyone who needs me, and I 444 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,280 feel happy to do it, So feel free to do it. Yeah, 445 00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:55,800 we shall. So that's kind of I just kind of want to run it 446 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,039 up the flag call let everyone know because it's coming up soon. And Aaron, 447 00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:04,719 when does the CFP open? Oh? Sorry, my bad. It 448 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,320 opens at the same time tickets going sale, so it starts October first. 449 00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:13,559 So right here having this private conversation because I thought if he had closed, 450 00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:17,440 so I'm panicking. Oh no, no. She went to the speaker list 451 00:35:17,679 --> 00:35:22,639 on ng comp dot org and was like, oh no. I was like, 452 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,840 oh my god, how did I miss it. So the speakers that 453 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,480 are there right now, they're the last year speakers. We haven't kind of 454 00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:31,639 updated. Okay, okay, that's a huge relief. You had me going, 455 00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:36,880 sorry, let me talk about dates for those. So the tickets will 456 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,519 will sell until they're gone. It's kind of first come, first surf, 457 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:45,000 then the CFP. Let's talk about dates are on the CFP. So the 458 00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:49,719 CFP will open October first and it will close. We like to give people 459 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,719 kind of the United States holiday break to kind of submit their ideas and get 460 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:58,639 them in. So we closed the CFP around January one January second, so, 461 00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:01,320 and then we pick the talks. I think this year, let me 462 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:06,079 look real quick on we're going to pick the talk shortly after we close the 463 00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:10,800 CFP. I think that we're picking them on January tenth. So, and 464 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,199 that's like crazy process. A listen was there last year, she knows crazy 465 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:20,280 fun. You mean it's not. It's hard. It's like twenty four hours 466 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,880 straight starting to finish. Now, I loved it though. There's a lot 467 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,719 of passion and a lot of thought put into it. It was beautiful. 468 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,840 Yeah. So anyway, yes, you've got from October first to you know, 469 00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:34,480 January one. Basically, let's just say that, so you got three 470 00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:37,679 months to submit your talk ideas to kind of get invented. And if you 471 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,280 have ten ideas across three months, submit all ten. You don't have to 472 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,679 wait till the very end to submit them all. You can submit them as 473 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,679 they come to your mind. But but yeah, are you encouraging people to 474 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:52,880 submit ten ideas? I wouldn't submit ten, but I would submit more than 475 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,800 one. Yeah, I would take my ten and I would submit the best 476 00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,760 three or four. So yeah, so yeah, okay, cool. Unrelated 477 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:06,360 to the question when are the r just Live videos coming up? Unrelated, 478 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,320 sort of unrelated. Yeah, so the RX just Live videos, they're actually 479 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,800 already they're already slowly starting to roll out. But my man Owen and I 480 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,519 were not professional video editors, and so we got them already, but it 481 00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:22,440 takes out four hours to render each one, and so we're just kind of 482 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,639 as we get a chance, we'll render one and put it out there, 483 00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:29,320 and then it takes four hours from the time we tell it to render this 484 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,000 so it's kind of a mess, but we're slowly putting them out there. 485 00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:36,679 Okay, cool, thanks, Yeah, like Cape has one out yesterday on 486 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,000 Twitter. Go follow the RX just Live Twitter account. You'll see them kind 487 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,400 of stroll out. Once they're ready, they'll be up on their side as 488 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:49,400 well. So yeah, that's kind of that's the ngie confidences. So I 489 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,039 know there's a lot of people want to know. I just figured I'd flowed 490 00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:55,280 that out there. Should we move on to picks? Yep, yep. 491 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,400 I'm going to go first because I have to jump off. I'm doing it 492 00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:02,559 RX workshop with thanks to right now. So I'm gonna go first if that's 493 00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:06,320 cool, and then shying you can you can go from there? That cool? 494 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,000 Yeah, sure, So I'm actually gonna pick connecting with your children. 495 00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:15,000 So I started I listened to because of Jennifer, I started listening to Tate 496 00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:17,679 and then I was like, yeah, I'm gonna go bigger. I'm gonna 497 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,480 do Miley, and I'm gonna do Billie Eilish, I'm gonna do Postal. 498 00:38:21,639 --> 00:38:24,119 I started listening to the music my kids are listening to, and I was 499 00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:28,880 like, I'm gonna trick my kids and the thinking I'm cool. And then 500 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:37,639 seriously though, I'm driving home Thursday night and my daughter we're singing who are 501 00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:42,840 singing? We're singing Miley and she's like, Dad, that's so cool that 502 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,960 you listen to our music and singing with us, Like that's really cool. 503 00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:50,679 So I'm just saying, that's awesome. Connect with your kids however we can, 504 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,320 because that felt cool When my daughter said that that was awesome that's my 505 00:38:54,400 --> 00:39:00,079 pick connecting with your kids. Thanks, I'll go go a second. I 506 00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:04,039 have one pick about a good blog post. It's called the Magic of our 507 00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:09,079 gest Sharing Operators and their Differences, which is very very good, cool medium 508 00:39:09,159 --> 00:39:15,239 post. A blog post that I will paste in the show notes. And 509 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:22,360 another thing that I got in as a gift yesterday is a book but Will 510 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:28,760 Ferrell Ron Burgundy let me off at the top, very funny book. I'll 511 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,400 put a little that as well. So those are my picks, all right. 512 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:37,320 Cool. I'm next to kind of in line with the RCHGS live videos, 513 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,679 which I didn't realize those were already coming out, which is very cool. 514 00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:45,000 The NGD videos RUP I think maybe that was a week or so ago. 515 00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:51,920 So also some great content available on YouTube for the NGDE conference month or 516 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,199 so goo and then you connect their live stream. You can check it out. 517 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,719 It's a little hard they haven't pieced it up yet or you know, 518 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,199 chop out the videos up for each one, but it's like eight hours long, 519 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,559 but you can kind of script through it and find a particular talk or 520 00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:10,320 something that you want to listen to you and watch. So definitely go check 521 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:15,000 out those through your resources on YouTube. And that's my text. So so 522 00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:19,880 the n g D videos are up as well, Yes, yeah they are. 523 00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:22,400 Yeah, and they've got a whole playlist, so you can go through 524 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,559 each one and can you put a link? I will okay, thanks, 525 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,119 okay, slow me. What are your picks? Okay? So I didn't 526 00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:34,800 plan for picks, but I do have something that I like to recommend, 527 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,320 and it's also it's from Angola Connect. If you want to know more about 528 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:45,119 the performance from jama Skip, not angle in particular, but specifically in general, 529 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:51,800 so go and seems because the presentation on Angla Connect, I know that 530 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:59,079 they still haven't split it into chunks, it into schedule session based videos, 531 00:40:59,159 --> 00:41:01,639 but it calls how we make Anglar first you can find it. I can 532 00:41:01,679 --> 00:41:07,679 maybe post a link plator with the specifica minute in the in the liastream, 533 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:14,159 but generally he talks about the way that the browser access memory excess objects and 534 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:19,599 how they stole data and how cash walk optimization, the optimidation. Very nice 535 00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:22,719 stuff, veryvery cool stuff you want to if you want to understand more about 536 00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:25,079 how Java skip walk and how to write better code. I think that this 537 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:30,079 is a very very nice thing to watch and get a smart phone Yeah, 538 00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:37,320 and to addapt to to this, watch every talk Missico ever gave, every 539 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:42,239 one of them is amazing. So that one is on the Angular connect YouTube 540 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,199 channel. Yeah. I think the team Switterer County has the link to the 541 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:50,440 presentation to the DTA repositors with all the sources and the tools that keep using 542 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:57,280 to the benchmarking and also link to the video itself. Nice. Okay, 543 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,920 thank you very much and so shlow Me, thank you much for joining us. 544 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,199 I'm wrapping up the episode for a first day because we had to go 545 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:10,639 and thank you for the panelists. Join us and we'll see you next episode.