WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.040 --> 00:00:15.599 Ladies and gentlemen in this corner from the University of Colorado thirty years in Lorraine, 2 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:24.199 fighting for truth, justice and the American Way. Oh saw the American 3 00:00:24.280 --> 00:00:28.719 Way on full display over the weekend, except it was in Gaza and it 4 00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:35.079 was Israel going in to take back citizens who had been brutally kidnapped. That's 5 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:38.399 the American way, standing up to evil, doing what you have to do 6 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:45.960 to defeat evil. And obviously absolutely horrific, horrific the number of civilians that 7 00:00:46.039 --> 00:00:52.119 Hamas killed during that rescue, and that's what's so critical that we all remember, 8 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:57.759 and it's not semantics, it is just truth. Every single one of 9 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:03.880 the innocent civilians who were killed were killed by Hamas. They were killed by 10 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:10.719 Hamas which chose to use them essentially as human shields. So so hopefully what 11 00:01:10.760 --> 00:01:15.359 we saw over the weekend will will lead to a quicker full piece, and 12 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:19.120 we all know that peace isn't going to come through some cheap, meaningless deal 13 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:23.040 that hands Hamas a victory piece. Is going to come through a deal that 14 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:29.000 allows Israel to accomplish its goals. It's survival goals, it's right to survival 15 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:34.280 goals. So making sure Hamas is destroyed as a military and political force. 16 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:38.000 I know you're going to hear a lot right now about the UN Security Council, 17 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:42.879 you know, approving this cease fire agreement that Biden says Israel has already 18 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:47.439 agreed to. Let's wait till we hear that from Israel and will Hamas agree 19 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:51.200 it. Chances are and just imagine, I mean negotiating with the devil right 20 00:01:51.280 --> 00:01:55.239 literally, no matter how you envision the devil, who is real, you 21 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:59.120 know that that's who you're negotiating with here. So will the devil accept this 22 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:02.159 deal? You know that any deal the devil would actually accept, it would 23 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:07.799 not abide by. But Israel has a right to survive and great to see 24 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:12.759 him get those four hostages back this weekend. Glad you are here. How 25 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:16.360 we're going to be talking a lot about the Colorado GOP and it's so important 26 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:20.520 to the future of the state because this state doesn't have to be gone forever. 27 00:02:20.599 --> 00:02:23.360 It might be gone forever, it doesn't have to be but if this 28 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:29.479 state is ever going to be saved from this downward spiral. And we can 29 00:02:29.599 --> 00:02:34.280 disagree around the margins about how fast the spiral is in what form it's taking, 30 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:39.479 but if the state's going to be saved from the inevitable downward spiral from 31 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:44.599 leftist leadership, well then it's going to take a strong Colorado GOP to do 32 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:46.759 it. Right now, we have the opposite. We have about the weakest 33 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:52.599 possible Colorado GOP organization, which is pretty bizarre when you think about it, 34 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:57.280 because so many of the people, including an unknown insider so I don't know 35 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:00.879 all the machinations, but so many of the people on the Central Committee, 36 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:04.360 so many people who get to vote for the party chair, so many people 37 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:10.599 involved in these different organizations are outstanding people doing tremendous work. The problem right 38 00:03:10.639 --> 00:03:14.400 now, in my humble opinion, is a guy I like. I like 39 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:19.400 Dave Williams personally, but he's a disaster Estate chair and he is the state 40 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:23.639 chair. And so what that's causing because of the way Dave's approaching the job 41 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:28.759 is it's causing great harm to the Colorado GOP as a whole. So all 42 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:31.199 the great work by all these other members of the Central Committee, in all 43 00:03:31.240 --> 00:03:37.759 these other folks who are true grassroots, and an awful lot of folks who 44 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:40.759 are very very strong conservatives, A lot of people would say far right in 45 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:45.479 a derogatory sense, I say far right in a very positive sense. You 46 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:50.599 know, their good work is being undermined by a chair at this point who's 47 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:53.360 just doing a lot of bizarre stuff. So what do you do about that? 48 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:57.560 Well, we had Nancy Pealazi on with us Friday. She has this 49 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:01.479 big powerful county GOP Jeff Go and they called for Dave to resign, and 50 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:05.400 obviously Dave's not going to do that, right, But the question is whether 51 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:09.840 they can muster enough people on the Central Committee. From what I read, 52 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:14.879 it takes sixty percent to be able to change out the chair, and so 53 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:16.800 I don't have any feel for whether they can do that. Again, I'm 54 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:21.560 not inside all of that, but I was so happy to see Nancy step 55 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:27.800 up and Barb Kirkmeyer one of the most respective. If anybody disagrees with this, 56 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:30.800 please call the show, text this show and let's have the conversation, 57 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:34.399 because I'd love to know what facts you would be citing. You can call 58 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:39.279 us, by the way, eight five five four zero five eight two five 59 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:42.759 five the number worst number where we hope the best show on talk radio. 60 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:47.680 You can text d An five seven seven three nine Barb Kirkmeyer, the universally 61 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:55.040 respected conservative Republican in Colorado came within a relative handful of votes of winning c 62 00:04:55.240 --> 00:05:00.959 D eight last time around. And Barb has come out now and has called 63 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:03.959 on Dave to step aside, and she'll be joining us at four thirty six, 64 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:08.240 so you'll hear from Barb why she's taking that step. And not an 65 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:11.920 easy step to take, right. It's not an easy step to take because 66 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:15.519 the left is so awful. The last thing we ever want to do is 67 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:23.759 be occupying our time and attention and focus on fellow conservatives when the left is 68 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:28.879 so awful. But it does reach a point, when it reaches the point 69 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:34.439 where the party chair is actually undermining the causes we all believe in by engaging 70 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:39.680 in this really odd behavior. Then at that point you have no choice, 71 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:45.439 right because you've got to be able to limit the damage from that. And 72 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:47.759 if you have been on vacation or whatever and you've missed all this, it's 73 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:53.639 really pretty straightforward. You've got a party chair at this point who has sent 74 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:59.160 out multiple well through posting on Twitter and then direct email, has has sent 75 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:04.600 out these emails regarding Pride Month that take on a very hateful tone and absolutely 76 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:09.759 hand the left like kind of silver platter going to the left and saying, 77 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:15.480 okay, left, what what can we do that will help you, mister 78 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:20.759 extremist leftist, help you defeat us. What would you like from us, 79 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:28.279 mister extremist lefty, to help make sure that an even larger number of people 80 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:30.800 in this state never even think of voting for Republican? What can we do 81 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:35.319 for you, crazy secular lefty? And the crazy secular lefty is going to 82 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:38.680 say, well, Dave, you know what I'd like you to do is 83 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:43.079 say you hate gays, Say the Colorado GOP hates gaye. You know that 84 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:46.759 is what we could really use from you, Dave, because at that point, 85 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:50.639 then you know, it would take the Good Lord himself coming back down 86 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:56.079 and ordering everybody to vote Republican for you guys to ever win again. And 87 00:06:56.120 --> 00:07:00.199 that's what Dave did. He posts his stuff, he sends his stuff out, 88 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:04.519 and the clear message is that, hey, Colorado GOP hates gase. 89 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:09.160 I'm not claiming that's the verbatim, but the word hate was used. But 90 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:14.680 that's the clear message. So when you reach the point your own party chair 91 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:17.920 is, I'm sure this isn't Dave's intention, but Dave's a very smart guy. 92 00:07:17.959 --> 00:07:20.839 He has to realize this. Right when you reach the point where your 93 00:07:20.839 --> 00:07:26.800 own party chair is actively helping the opposition, again not his intent, but 94 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:30.959 the clear effect, then you've got to step up. And it's also think 95 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:34.160 about it. Think about how defamatory it is, not in the legal sense, 96 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:40.439 but in that kind of moral sense. How defamatory it is for Dave 97 00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:43.959 to do this, because what he's doing is he's sending the message. He's 98 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:46.439 sending the message on the political front, on the human front, the kitchen 99 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:50.839 table front. He sending the message to all these folks across Colorado that Republicans 100 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:54.240 hate gays. Well, I'm here to tell you I was a Democrat for 101 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:56.800 a lot of years. So I came to this party with fresh eyes, 102 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:00.879 and I got a chance then and was invited to speak still speak to these 103 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:05.920 different groups around the state. And I came in with a stereotype of Republicans 104 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:09.839 that was not good. So I came in and what I learned. What 105 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:13.319 I learned, you know, just literally going group to group around the state, 106 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:18.800 meeting all these people, talking to groups. Everything else is is you 107 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:24.000 have got a very caring, loving group of people, and who are not 108 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:28.519 in any way, shape or form homophobic, who do not sit there and 109 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:33.799 have any kind of animus toward gay people. They have the proper correct logical 110 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:39.360 position when it comes to policy issues such as no religious liberty comes before gay 111 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:43.519 rights, freedom of speech comes before gay rights. You know, our children 112 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:48.480 and being able to make sure that our children have their parents' influence and involvement 113 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:52.840 in their life, particularly when they're going through difficult things, comes before trans 114 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:56.600 writes. So they're right on the issues, but when it comes to the 115 00:08:56.720 --> 00:09:01.720 human piece that there is, there is just there's no common vitriol or disrespect 116 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:05.159 or anything when it comes to gays. So for Dave Williams to come out 117 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:09.519 and choose, I think for his own purposes, to attract attention to himself, 118 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:13.320 to come out and to I think, to fame again, not in 119 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:20.000 the legal sense, but to paint Republicans across the state as being gay haters. 120 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:24.919 That is so fundamentally unfair to Republicans, whether they're involved in politics or 121 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:30.559 not. It is not who we are. Undermines efforts to stand up to 122 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:37.279 this administration's radical leftist agenda on these issues. So yeah, it's time. 123 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:39.480 It's time for all Republican leaders to rise up and say, Dave, we 124 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:43.679 love you, and I really like the guy. We love you. We 125 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:46.360 know you're a smart guy, but you're doing dumb things, and you're hurting 126 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:50.840 the cause, and you're handing our opponent's victory and we've got to preserve this 127 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:52.320 party. Dave, time for you to step aside. You're on the Dan 128 00:09:52.399 --> 00:10:07.720 Capla show. They've had ten million people coming to this country illegal. It's 129 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:11.720 the highest level of illegal immigration the last three years in the history of the 130 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:16.960 country. We went from the lowest under Trump to the highest and recorded history. 131 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:20.240 They're never going to stop coming until they see people leaving on day one. 132 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:26.279 On day one, President Trump will deport people here legally by the tens 133 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:30.519 of thousands. Then and only then will this stop. And Biden will never 134 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:33.960 do that. Well, you also know that Congress would have to provide the 135 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:39.039 resources to do that to immigrations and customs enforcement, and they say they don't 136 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:43.720 have the manpower or the money to do any of that. Well scale if 137 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:48.159 Trump is president. If Trump is president, his top priority will seal that 138 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:52.000 border to port here people illegally. We're living on borrow time. When it 139 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:54.159 comes to another nine to eleven. If you're looking for somebody to fix a 140 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:58.279 broken border and keep us safe, Donald Trump, I believe is your best 141 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:01.840 choice. And if you don't leave that after the last three years you've made, 142 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:07.279 you're making a big mistake. Wow. Which that's Lindsey Graham obviously ties 143 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:11.120 into this. US CBS host shocked by pole. I think it was their 144 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:18.879 own CBS poll showing sixty two percent of registered voters support to porting all illegal 145 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:24.120 immigrants. Think about that. Wow it and you can see now and you 146 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:30.159 already knew, you know why Biden made this kind of full effort last week 147 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:33.919 to say he was going to try and close the border. Sixty two percent 148 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:39.960 registered voters support to porting all illegal immigrants. Your thoughts on that? Eighty 149 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:43.720 five five four zero five eight two five to five the number text d an 150 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:48.000 five seven seven three nine. I yet can't recall. I'd be surprised if 151 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:52.279 it was a high a number who would have supported that before Biden decided to 152 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:58.039 just wholesale open the border and invite people up and just flood the country with 153 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:01.559 folks here illegally from more than an under different countries without any vetting whatsoever. 154 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:05.039 Obviously, that's suicidal, right, It's suicidal for a nation to do that, 155 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:09.840 not because of the basic character of anybody coming in from south to the 156 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:15.240 border, but because of a nation's capacity to handle those numbers and without vetting 157 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:18.720 the number of truly hardened criminals, including terrorists, who are going to enter 158 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:22.480 among with you know that, the larger number of folks who are just looking 159 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:26.759 for a better life. So the combination of the two. Yeah, No, 160 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:31.799 obviously it's because Polis and Johnston and Biden and the rest of them just 161 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:37.600 want more Democrat voters and they're willing to inflict all this harm on the country 162 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:41.200 to get it. So voters apparently are understanding that, with sixty two percent 163 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:46.480 of all registered voters supporting deporting all illegal immigrants. Anyway, we're going to 164 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:52.559 have Barb Kirkmeyer with us at four point thirty six, very respected conservative Republican 165 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:56.519 one has been very successful and came within a hair of winning CD eight if 166 00:12:56.519 --> 00:13:01.720 not for the libertarian candidate pulling four percent, she likely would have won that 167 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:05.879 district. And she's going to join us about her call public call over the 168 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:09.960 weekend for Dave Williams, the GOP chair, to step aside. I'm really 169 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:13.120 hoping Dave will come on. We've had a lot of great conversations on air. 170 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:16.440 Often we agree on things. We probably agree on about a five ninety 171 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:20.759 percent of stuff. We've had disagreements on air. Whatever. I enjoy having 172 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:24.159 Dave on air. He's been invited, and I hope that he joins me. 173 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:26.519 Obviously we disagree on this, the fact that he should no longer be 174 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:30.919 party chair, but I would hope we could have the conversation. And hey, 175 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:33.600 if I'm wrong, as Coach Prime says, I ain't r defined right, 176 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:37.159 and if I'm wrong, it should be pretty easy to show that. 177 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:43.320 So let's have the conversation. I don't see any flaw in my logic, 178 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:48.080 but somebody else does. Bring it on. Hey, this is what I 179 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:54.879 love. Okay, remember when President Trump was just getting into presidential politics, 180 00:13:54.960 --> 00:14:00.039 and what did we say all the time about him? So wow, I 181 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:01.799 didn't see that one coming. What a great idea, that's so fresh, 182 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:07.519 that's so different. And that was a big part of his brand, is 183 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:11.840 that he would come up with these unique ideas and we'd all go, wow, 184 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:15.679 yeah, that makes sense. Well he had another one over the weekend, 185 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:18.960 and I love this and I hope we see more of this now as 186 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.200 he moves beyond this wrongful conviction in New York, because he's going to have 187 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:26.519 to have more of this to win. So anyway, what about this? 188 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:33.120 So this is the first time I've said this, And for those hotel workers 189 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:37.080 and people that get tips, you're gonna be very happy because when I get 190 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:41.320 to office, we are going to not charge taxes on tips. People making 191 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:46.120 tips. Wow, what do you think of that yet? Whether you like 192 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:48.960 it or you don't like, it's fresh, it's new, it's different. 193 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:56.320 I haven't heard any politicians say that before about it and this was what I 194 00:14:56.360 --> 00:15:01.600 think. This was CBS reporting this reluct I did talk with some hotel workers 195 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:05.159 yesterday, some service workers here in Las Vegas, about how that is playing 196 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:09.320 with them and amory about six people told me that would change their vote. 197 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:13.639 That is enough to make them switch from voting Democrat to Republican. If Donald 198 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:18.720 Trump is promising something like that to them. Wow, think about that. 199 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:22.279 It's fresh, it's different. It makes a lot of sense on a lot 200 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:24.320 of levels. I'm sure you have questions I did too, such as, 201 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:28.399 okay, well, how much we all know so many people right work for 202 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:31.720 tips and the starting point in our minds is, you know, waiters and 203 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:35.240 waitresses that sort of things. But we know there's a much broader category. 204 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:39.159 I mean, I worked as tips as a golf caddy and then worked as 205 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:41.440 tip for Tips as a car parker, et cetera. But we know whether 206 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:46.639 it's you know, Uber or pizza delivery folks, or just a many, 207 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:50.799 many more categories all the time. Now. So how dependent is the US 208 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:56.360 government on you know, tax money from people who get tips? And I 209 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:00.039 haven't been able to find anything definitive on it yet, And doing my research 210 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:08.000 today, my unscientific conclusion was probably not that much compared to everything else. 211 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:11.679 So you're probably in a situation where you've got a lot of your hardest working 212 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:17.120 people. Think about it. The people working for tips are very often some 213 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:21.440 of the very best people in any community, people with the great work ethic. 214 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:26.279 They're out there, they're hustling, they're they're subjecting themselves to the micro 215 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:30.399 marketplace every minute of every day. Because I remember when I was working for 216 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:32.960 tips, Yeah, we had to please that person, do good work, 217 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:36.440 et cetera. It's a meritocracy, so often, you know, these are 218 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:38.480 some of the finest people in any community, city, state, nation, 219 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:42.120 And so right off the bat, you're talking about a very, very worthy 220 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:45.919 group. You're talking about a group of folks who, if they now don't 221 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:48.840 have to pay the government for this, they're going to fuel the economy in 222 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:52.879 other ways, you know, because they're not just going to sit there and 223 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:56.840 have piles of gold under their bed. They're going to fuel the economy in 224 00:16:56.000 --> 00:17:00.639 other ways. And there are people who deserve a frigging break. I mean, 225 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:03.320 you know, you've got Biden out there now. And this is where 226 00:17:03.320 --> 00:17:06.359 I started to compare numbers, even though we don't have hard numbers at this 227 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:10.559 point on federal tax revenue from tips, but you got Biden out there just 228 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:15.000 arbitrarily giving out I think it's up to one hundred and fifty one hundred and 229 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:22.279 sixty five billion with a be transferring that debt from people who knowingly took out 230 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:26.480 student loans, etc. Transferring that debt to people who who didn't take out 231 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:30.000 those loans, people who couldn't go to college because they didn't have the money 232 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:34.480 or decided to do something else, or you know, whatever the case may 233 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:38.880 be. But my guess is, and again I'm waiting to see some hard 234 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:45.799 numbers from what I've seen so far, it would probably cost far less to 235 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:51.160 give this break to these really hard working folks in our community who deserve it. 236 00:17:51.279 --> 00:17:55.599 That then Biden's transfer of student debt from people who agreed to take it 237 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:59.279 on to people who didn't. And I'll break those numbers down a little bit 238 00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:03.079 when we qubec what do you think of Trump's proposal no more taxes on tips? 239 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:08.119 Barb Kirkmeyer, highly respected conservative after the break on why she is calling 240 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:22.200 on GOP chair Dave Williams to step aside Here on the Dan Caplas Show four 241 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:26.799 thirty six, one of the most respected conservatives in Colorado, Barbara Kirkmeyer joins 242 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:29.599 us at the Dan Kapli Show. Welcome back, Barb. How you doing, 243 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.400 I'm doing great. Thanks for having me back on. Well, thank 244 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:37.920 you, and thank you for your courage and stepping up and publicly calling on 245 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:41.559 Dave to step aside his party chair. But please take the floor and tell 246 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:45.279 folks why you did that. Well, it's just that, you know, 247 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:48.519 as I said in when I made my post, our party has always stood 248 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:52.279 for freedom, prosperity, and opportunity, and we're supposed to be making every 249 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:57.000 effort to get our message out to Colorado's and grow the parties and elect Republicans. 250 00:18:57.200 --> 00:19:00.799 But over the course of last year, focusing on trying to unite us 251 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:07.440 under mister Williams leadership, you know what, his message has just been one 252 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:11.720 about dividing the state party and it's fueled by hateful narratives. He has gone 253 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:15.880 after use funds supposedly to you know, the funds are supposed to be used 254 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:21.160 to defeat Democrats. He's doing it to further his own candidacy. He attacked 255 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:26.319 Republicans, and just recently he delivered just really this late latest message of hate 256 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:29.519 and it's just time. I mean, I've been working really hard down to 257 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:33.319 Capitol along with my colleagues to make sure that we have an agenda that is 258 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:38.000 uplifting, that brings lifts Colorado's up, and you know, we just need 259 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:41.839 to chart a new path here because this one is not working. And I 260 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:48.480 am just greatly, greatly worried that we are going to even get farther into 261 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:52.559 the minority, that we won't even be a major party if we're not careful 262 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:56.720 with the type of messages that we're sending out. And the other thing is, 263 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:00.319 you know, Dave likes to say that he speaking for all Republicans. 264 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:04.359 No, he's not, he is not. And I don't know. I 265 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:07.759 know, I'm going on. You probably have no no, no, please 266 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:11.720 please walking. Yeah, I mean, I have a primary and I've been 267 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:15.440 out walking. But you know, I talked to people in my county quite 268 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:18.279 a bit in my district, and you know, I was in a newer 269 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:22.240 part of my district after the redistricting up in Timnath and I have people up 270 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:26.960 there telling me that they're leaving the party because they're just going too far and 271 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:30.359 it's not it's not the party they knew, it's not the party they grew 272 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:33.319 up in, and they just don't like it. So they're not going to 273 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:37.319 be Republicans anymore. And I'm like, well, my gosh, you know 274 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:40.880 you're still conservative, right and you're still going to vote for conservatives. And 275 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:44.079 they're like, yeah, but we're going to look at everybody really closely because 276 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:47.680 we just don't like what's going on in the Republican Party. And then on 277 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:52.240 top of that, just in the last week, I had a person who 278 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:56.720 was a vice chair in our party telling me that he's leaving the party because 279 00:20:56.720 --> 00:21:00.559 of Dave Williams. That's not a good messag that's not good. We need 280 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:03.759 to we need to get our party back on track and just chart a new 281 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:08.359 path. Right because if it's just Dave Williams out there saying Dave Williams things, 282 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:14.480 who cares. But when it's the Colorado GOP sending these messages, or 283 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:18.839 Dave Williams representing himself as chair of the Colorado GOP, then people have to 284 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:22.920 choose to do they want to be identified with that brand, and who in 285 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:27.359 the right mind would be on something like this, this spasm of hate directed 286 00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:32.119 toward gays. And you know, so who in the right mind would want 287 00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:36.279 to be associated with that? Listen, you have been one of the real 288 00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:40.440 stand up people in conservative circles, standing up for religious liberty and freedom and 289 00:21:40.519 --> 00:21:44.880 parental rights. But all Dave's doing is first of all, making anybody with 290 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:49.920 an R look bad and second handing the left handing this radical agenda these victories. 291 00:21:51.759 --> 00:21:55.960 Because when you come out and send the message Republicans hate gays, you 292 00:21:55.960 --> 00:22:00.640 know what do you think the left does? They celebrate exactly? And why 293 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:04.559 is why is that our lead message? There is so much more here that 294 00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:08.000 we should be doing as a Republican party, I mean defending Tabor. I 295 00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:12.000 spent all last summer and last fall defending Tabor, and you know, being 296 00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:17.279 the co chair on Proposition H along with representative to Gleasi and going out and 297 00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:22.359 fighting the really good battles. And we've won big. Why aren't we capitalizing 298 00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:25.640 off that? Why aren't we building off that instead? You know the other 299 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:30.079 part is this guy doubled down. He sent out another email that said, 300 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:33.720 you know, he's looking forward to putting out the list of so called Republicans 301 00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:37.759 who plan on signing the petition. Well, Dave, I signed the petition. 302 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:40.720 Mind, I put my name out there. I'm fine with putting my 303 00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:44.279 name out there. You know, it's not And he's trying to deflect and 304 00:22:44.279 --> 00:22:47.400 he's trying to change this all around because I think he knows he's screwed up, 305 00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:49.200 because he's trying to say, you know, we're defending pride months. 306 00:22:49.240 --> 00:22:55.400 No, no, this is about it's childish. It's about that's childish, 307 00:22:55.400 --> 00:22:59.119 it's playground stuff. Oh yeah. No. If you say we shouldn't be 308 00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:02.559 sending out Haye Man such as you're defending, I mean that's literally what you 309 00:23:02.599 --> 00:23:06.000 would hear on the playground in kindergarten. But let me ask you, Barb, 310 00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:10.279 if you fit into this category, because I guess according to Dave, 311 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:17.079 those who don't support that God hates pride email and buried within that. If 312 00:23:17.119 --> 00:23:19.039 I remember it right, there was a video with a heading on it, 313 00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:27.039 God hates flags, and which for those familiar with this horrific Westboro Church operation, 314 00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:30.920 and they're sickly modeled, God hates fags. You wonder if those two 315 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:36.839 titles are a coincidence. But anyway, this article I write says, I 316 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:40.240 wonder that they aren't a coincidence. They were meant. It was meant to 317 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:44.599 be that way, and it's basically he has the Republican Party coming out with 318 00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:48.160 a picture of what I believe it is supposed to be Jesus with these red 319 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:52.359 eyes that does look dis Anish. That is saying God hates flag, which 320 00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:56.039 is supposed to mean God hates fags. That is what I mean by hurtful 321 00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:00.839 language coming out of the Republican Party. God doesn't hate anyone. I was 322 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:03.519 taught in the religion I grew up in, which is Catholic, that God 323 00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:07.519 loves everyone and that we are made in His likeliness. So I don't think 324 00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:10.920 God hates fags. That's not what I was raised on and I just don't 325 00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:12.799 believe that. But this guy, again, like I said, he's doubled 326 00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:17.240 down, and he puts in this second email that he sent out that I 327 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:21.759 mean, now you know, I'm an established establishment insider. I'm assuming from 328 00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:25.440 his emails. But even because you know my mom is hinal hall of you 329 00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:30.000 know, wall of Way, honor, yes, I do. Because here's 330 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.880 the thing. I'm not an establishment you know. I am in the Republican 331 00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:37.039 Party and I have been faithful to the Republican Party, and I am a 332 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:41.839 conservative. But he says the same, a stabiliate establishment insiders only seem to 333 00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:47.759 fight this hard against grassroots Christian conservatives, like I'm not a Christian conservative now, 334 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:51.000 I mean, I really take offense to that as well. But here 335 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:53.039 he is instead of saying, you know what, maybe I need to change 336 00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:56.119 the message, maybe I miss it a bit, but you know, or 337 00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:59.680 I should just go use that in my own campaign. Of course, he's 338 00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:04.519 using the state party money for his own candidacy. So what that's unethical? 339 00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:08.359 I mean, this coming from how un eSchool is that, But saying that 340 00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:11.960 and basically calling us is calling from us out that if we sign this petition 341 00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:18.359 somehow now we're not Christian conservative because only he gets this side. That that 342 00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:22.000 is just wrong. It is just wrong all the way around. Yeah, 343 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:26.960 think about how preposterous it is using faith, is this kind of sword against 344 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:33.440 conservative opponents while violating the basic tenants of that same faith. I mean, 345 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:37.240 and that it's so preposterous in so many different ways. And I guess all 346 00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:40.880 of us, you and I and anybody who disagrees with him. He's labeled, 347 00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:45.799 to quote weak Republicans who bowed down at the feet of leftist cancel culture. 348 00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:49.240 So, yeah, Barbara, I've said this on Aaron. I imagine 349 00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:56.279 you would say it with great vigor. I will compare. I will compare 350 00:25:56.519 --> 00:26:00.640 my years, my decades, my career of standing up to leftist cancel culture 351 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:04.720 to Dave Williams any day of the week. Now, Dave's done some good 352 00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:08.039 things, and we agree on a lot of different causes. The difference is 353 00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:14.599 he's doing things right now to undermine those causes and to help our political opponents, 354 00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:17.920 those who seek to defeat us on the causes. But you want to 355 00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:22.160 compare actual hard work in the trenches and effectiveness standing up to leftist cancel culture. 356 00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:26.119 Let's do it. I'm with you any day of the week. And 357 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:30.680 if you want to compare my conservative record to his, I'm with that too, 358 00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:34.079 and your record of success, because I do think success still matters, 359 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:37.559 right, it does. And you know, here's the thing. We are 360 00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:41.039 fighting so hard, and we had some successes this year, you know, 361 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:45.359 fighting on you know, bringing down property taxes, bringing down income taxes. 362 00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:51.680 We killed a on the calendar, we killed an anti gun bill. We 363 00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:56.200 that's everybody working together as a team, you know, down at the Capitol. 364 00:26:56.279 --> 00:27:00.720 You know, whether we're Republican senators or Republican healthman versus state representatives, 365 00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:04.160 we work together as a team. And he's undermining all of that. He's 366 00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:10.160 undermining our successes, you know, whether it's individually or as a team for 367 00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:12.920 his own means. I mean, if he wants to go spout this stuff 368 00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:17.759 on his own candidacy, go do it. He wants to go sbout this 369 00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:19.559 stuff in his own campaign, go do it. We'll see where how far 370 00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:23.359 it gets him. And Barb Kirkmeyer, guess what kind of reaction are you 371 00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:30.640 getting barbed from from other conservatives? Other people politically involve Central Committee members, 372 00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:37.039 well other than my well, my opponent's not a Central Committee member. I 373 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:40.640 am telling you. I went to so my Senate district is in both Weld 374 00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:44.000 and Larimer County, mostly Well, but it also goes into Larimer County, 375 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:45.880 and I went to events in Larimer County and I thought, you know, 376 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:49.759 if I'm going to get any harsh speedback, it might be here. But 377 00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:53.480 I didn't get any of that. I got people telling me thank you for 378 00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:56.400 saying, you know, coming out and making those comments, for saying we 379 00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:00.559 need to get our party back on track, that we need to come unified, 380 00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:04.559 especially into this election cycle. And I think they're going to write a 381 00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:08.400 letter and ask for the resignation as well. At least that seems about the 382 00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:14.440 indication so from Central Committee members that are in you know, in Well County. 383 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:18.839 Well County didn't vote for Dave, and you know the majority of us 384 00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:22.799 did not vote for Dave. And you know this is the guy, upon 385 00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:29.880 winning election of the state Party chair, called all Republican legislators seclists, and 386 00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:32.440 I thought, oh my god, here we go, here we go. 387 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:36.759 He called them all seckless in his speech. Man, well, thank you 388 00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:40.759 for standing up. And I hope others do as well. And I think 389 00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:44.160 it's just so it's so critical to the future, it's so critical to all 390 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:48.440 Republicans. It's so critical to these issues. And you know what, Dan, 391 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:51.559 and thank you as well for helping get this message out. But you 392 00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:53.160 know what, I want to be in the majority party. You know, 393 00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:59.319 I'm tired of losing, and with this kind of agenda, this kind of 394 00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:03.400 move from our state party chair, I mean making us all look bad. 395 00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:07.359 Basically, we're not going to get there. Yeah. Amen, we just 396 00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:10.319 learned that to get there. Thanks your great work. Join us again soon 397 00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:14.920 please. That's Kirkmeyer for Colorado dot Com. Barb Kirkmeer, You're on the 398 00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:30.160 Dan Kapla show. So this is the first time I've said this. And 399 00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:33.400 for those hotel workers and people that get tips, you're going to be very 400 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:38.200 happy because when I get to office, we are going to not charge taxes 401 00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:45.119 on tips. People making tips was pretty popular and then the network, I 402 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:49.160 think it was CBS not pleased with this. I did talk with some hotel 403 00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:53.079 workers yesterday, some service workers here in Las Vegas about how that is playing 404 00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:57.200 with them and Amrie about six people told me that would change their vote. 405 00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:02.559 That is enough to make them switch from voting Democrat to Republican. If Donald 406 00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:04.920 Trump is promising something like that to them, boy, yeah, and can 407 00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:10.400 you imagine the effect nationwide. So it's just part of this whole move of 408 00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:15.079 the GOP to being the party of the working people, which it is it 409 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.720 should be for the GOP to win, it needs to be, and for 410 00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:23.599 the GOP to fulfill its purpose not just to win, but to actually succeed 411 00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:30.400 and to mean something different than Democrats. It really needs to be the party 412 00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.519 of working people. But what do you think of the policy, the underlying 413 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:37.880 policy of not taxing tips. We'll get to that. Most of the tensions 414 00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:42.119 so far on the show has been this issue across Colorado and the GOP whether 415 00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:48.119 Dave Williams, the current party chair, should continue. Now the calls are 416 00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:52.200 for those who are calling. Nancy Pelosi, head of Jeff Go the Jeffco 417 00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:56.200 GOP called on Dave Williams to resign last week. Barb Kirkmeyer, respected conservative, 418 00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.799 just joined me. She's calling on it as well. Everybody knows he's 419 00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:04.519 not going to resign, but should he be removed, So would love to 420 00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.920 hear from you. Dave, of course, has been invited. Would love 421 00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.200 to have Davon. We've had a lot of great conversations on air. Would 422 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.599 love to have another one, and we can certainly we've shown that disagree civilly. 423 00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:18.160 But if you disagree with me on this, please we will make you 424 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:22.119 a priority caller. Would love to hear from you on this eight five five 425 00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:26.839 four zero five eight two five five text d A N five seven seven three 426 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.759 nine. Hey, couple of quick news notes. The Hunter Biden jury has 427 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.599 caughting home for the evening. Could have been should have been the quickest conviction 428 00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:37.839 anywhere, just based on the elements. But if you, like me, 429 00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:41.319 want to see President Trump win, well you've got to sit there and hope 430 00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:47.559 that Hunter Biden is acquitted or at least not convicted. Now chances are he 431 00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:51.240 will be right because he's dead in the water on these charges. But I 432 00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.720 think it would be very good for President Trump if he wasn't died. My 433 00:31:53.880 --> 00:32:00.799 personal belief is that Joe Biden wants him convicted on these charges, that Hunter 434 00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:04.720 Biden, Joe Biden, the entire clan see this as a real plus, 435 00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:09.079 an enormous plus for Hunter Biden if he gets convicted on these charges, because 436 00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:13.680 then they're hoping the pressures off. Then Joe Biden can stand up and say, 437 00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:15.160 equal justice under the law, see my own son. I could have 438 00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:21.599 pardoned him. I didn't guess what if this was the tax evasion trial happening 439 00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:25.079 now instead of in September. Yeah, the pardon would have come before the 440 00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:30.279 tax of asion trial because it's the tax evasion trial where you get in the 441 00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:32.720 money. Now they can just come, oh, poor Hunter an addict. 442 00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:37.240 He was convicted for being an addict. What was me kind of saying? 443 00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:39.640 And Joe would a good dad for standing by him. But the tax evasion 444 00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:44.519 trial is where the money is, and that's coming in September, though it 445 00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:46.359 will probably never come. They'll probably be a pardon before then. Why, 446 00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:52.920 because hey, where did Hunter get this money that he didn't pay taxes on? 447 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:55.920 Right? Why were people paying the money to begin with? Other than 448 00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:59.839 to buy influence with Joe? I mean, well, what are the reason 449 00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:05.559 we anybody give Hunter Biden money? Yeah? So different critter there. All 450 00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:07.880 right, let's get back to the text and to the phone lines. I've 451 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:12.240 got to tell you. I'll tell you now so I don't forget hilarious story. 452 00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:15.680 Remember, we spend so much time on this show talking about this absolutely 453 00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:21.680 insane new law from Polis in the left where under certain circumstances I won't repeat 454 00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:24.079 it on now, scooters, bikes, et cetera, they don't have to 455 00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:29.000 stop. Bikes, they don't have to stop for stop signs. Well, 456 00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:30.920 I had a buddy, you would know his name. He you know, 457 00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:36.480 super Bowl champ, all that good stuff, very well known who. The 458 00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:38.400 other day, he's driving down the street, he has a green light. 459 00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:45.559 He almost obliterates this joker on a scooter and the guy gets up and starts 460 00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:52.000 yelling at my buddy. Jared Polis said, I could do that inver paid 461 00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.519 him. Jared Polis said I could do that. Jared Polis said I didn't 462 00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:58.359 have to stop. I mean the guy said Jared Polis said I could do 463 00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:00.160 that, but he was referring to the fact that he had not stopped. 464 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:05.160 I can't remember if it was a bikerscooter, but the guy actually said those 465 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:09.119 words. Let's go to Chris says he's a Precinct one O two leader talking 466 00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:13.119 about our friend Dave Williams. Chris, you're on the Dan Kapitalist Show. 467 00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:16.320 Welcome Dan, Thanks for having me on. Sure, Yeah, I was 468 00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:21.519 calling in. I think I was calling in because I have to agree with 469 00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:27.719 Sarah Kirkmeyer that Dave is the worst. I live in Springs, No Passa 470 00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:31.199 County, have a precinct leader for four years now, and he's just counductive 471 00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:36.239 to everything you try to do. Well. Then Dave Williams would say you're 472 00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.719 a quote weak Republican who bows down at the feet of leftist cancel culture. 473 00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:45.199 You don't sound like that, Chris, does that describe you? The good 474 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:50.679 news is that Dave Williams wouldn't doesn't know Shinola. I mean, good, 475 00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:54.559 most gracious. I mean he couldn't, he couldn't get elected. Well, 476 00:34:54.599 --> 00:35:00.239 I don't want to say that on the air, but Chris appreciate hit the 477 00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:01.280 call. We need to hit this news break. If you want to talk 478 00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:04.400 some more, just let me know. We'd love to hear from everybody who 479 00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.280 agrees disagrees. This I think has to be addressed for the good of the 480 00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:09.920 causes, for the good of the party. You're on the Dan Kaplis Show.