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About seventy nine. We're going to
have the next three hours and many of

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his compatriots and friends and others and
other anchors and other those in politics also.

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But to lead off, Brian Hemrick
of the Power of five, we

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had planned to talk about the shooting
of an eleven year old, but this

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news broke this morning about Jerry Springer
passing of cancer at the age of seventy

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nine. And before we go much
further, what are your memories of Jerry

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Springer? Well, thanks again,
mister Cunningham. Yeah, well we had

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just I just talked to him probably
the I want to say, in the

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February. I think it was when
he was in at the station and he

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came by, and he's always super
nice to everybody when he shows up,

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and just you know, huge personality. Everybody can't wait to talk to him.

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And like I said, when he's
one of those guys, when you

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talk to him, even if you
don't know him very well, you feel

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like you know you've known him all
your life. He just had that kind

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of personality and I know I stopped
and talked to him him there for a

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little bit. But yeah, that
that news just a rifled through our our

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newsroom, you know, because there's
still people there that worked with him and

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knew him for you know, and
worked for years with him. John London

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worked for him, with him for
years, and he just, uh,

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you know, he had so many
accnes, so many things he had done.

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The list just goes on and on
and on. So he was one

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guy with a whole lot of different
lives and a whole lot of different personalities.

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And for those around the country,
I think we here we kind of

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embraced certain people and Jerry Springer is
one of the characters that we embraced.

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And I'm not sure politically he represented
what Hamlet and County was, shall we

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say, thirty or forty years ago, but when he ran against a guy

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named Donald Clancy. You may not
recall Donald Clancy, but he was a

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congressman for a long time. He
was a conservative Republican. It was shocking

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that in nineteen seventy Jerry Springer ran
against Donald Clancy and got forty five percent

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of the vote in a Republican district. And from that point on he would

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have had a start next to his
name. Yeah, I think that was

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the thing. I mean, you
know, you see a guy and he

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loses, but under the conditions he
lost. But you know, I think

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he won a lot more during that
race than he actually lost, because then

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he ended up winning a bunch of
other races. Now, in fact,

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when Springer was caught, shall we
say, given a check to a lady

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of the night in northern Kentucky.
By the way, that check was good.

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He often would tell you the check
would have cleared. But nonetheless she

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kept it as insurance so that if
she was pinched, she could pull out

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a check from Jerry Springer, who
at that point was on city council.

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Like in nineteen seventy one, he
resigned in disgrace. I can recall the

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news conference. It was sorrowful.
He admitted it. I did it.

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I shouldn't have done it. Of
course he was not married at the time.

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He married Mickey a year or two
later, but but nonetheless he simply

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said this is the truth. And
then he got elected the city council,

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then became the mayor, and it
was only for about a year, which

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is unbelievable. Who comes back from
something like that, you know, I

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mean, that's it's amazing really to
be able to do that. But that's

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that's kind of a testament to his
personality, and they kind of got because

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when he said, hey, I'm
sorry I did it. I mean,

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like you said, you came up
across with a guy and you're like,

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hey, I don't know if I
like this guy or not. But at

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least he tells the truth, you
know. And it was only the mayor

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for like one year, because you
only served one year, you would elected

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mayor, you were selected as the
mayor. Then after that, I can

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recall that he was pitched a show
by Tony Kernan about this, uh,

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this Jerry Springer show which would begin
and Cincinnati end up in Chicago. And

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it began as a serious thing.
It began with the serious issues and he

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was losing miserably and so the exact
a producer said, look, we're canceled.

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They gave him three months to wrap
it up. Well, why don't

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we try something completely different? Him
and Richard came up with this idea of

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the Jerry Springer Show, and within
a year or two he was betting Oprah

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Winfrey and the ratings when she was
in her prime. That was unbelievable.

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It was it was amazing, I
mean, and he was amazed by He's

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like, why would anybody tune into
this? You know, I mean,

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he always takes such a good sense
of humor about his own persona, and

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he just never took himself too seriously. And he and even like you said,

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even that he was I think he
was a bit amazed that people were,

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you know, we're watching in the
levels that they were. And you

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think about this, uh, Brian
Henry that here he is born in England,

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his family, a lot of his
family members were murdered during the Holocaust.

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He was poor, he was broke. He watched some political stuff out

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of America with John F. Kennedy
and the guy said, look, I

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want to get to America. So
he made his way somehow to New York

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and then he was more or less
assigned during sixty eight to come to Cincinnati,

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Ohio in order to work on the
Bobby Kennedy campaign for the presidency.

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And that's why he came to say, if somebody would have said in nineteen

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sixty eight to this guy, who
he would freely admit he did not have

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a good face for television, would
you agree not the best? He would

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probably agree with that, yeah,
yeah, And he said I'm not that

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attractive and I'm Jewish and I'm in
Cincinnati, Ohio. The odds of that

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guy in nineteen sixty eight within a
few years being the mayor of Cincinnati.

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That would have been impossible at the
time. It was impossible, And Jerry

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did it and naturally known, you
know. I mean that's the other the

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way of people, you know outside
the Cincinnati don't really know, you know,

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all this background on him and how
where he came from and all of

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that. You know, we we
have a pretty good sense of him here

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because you know, we knew him
back then. We knew him was the

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mayor. We knew him he was
an anchor at Channel five for years,

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you know, we you know,
kind of knew all that, and then

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he did the Jerry Springer stuff and
we had a better idea. I know,

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this guy can be serious. We
know he's just kind of joking around

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with this show. A lot of
people thought that was him, you know,

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and when it was not, I
tell you, here's this is an

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interesting little story about Jerry one time. It is one of these This is

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how crazy sometimes the news business gets. Those of years ago when Jerry was

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an anchor here at Channel five and
he was there and photographer Ron Schmidt,

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he just retired. He was our
chief photog for years. And uh Ron

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got called into the news director's office
back in those days, and the news

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director said, duh, Ron,
I'll tell you what. He goes,

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I'm gonna get put a letter in
your file because I got to complain about

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you. And Ron goes complaint.
He goes, what what do you mean?

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He goes, well, people aren't
getting along with you. They don't

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work with you very well. And
your photographer and your your reporter and your

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they all got to get along pretty
good, because it says it's a type

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working situation. He goes, you're
not getting along with people, and and

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Schmidty he gets along with everybody,
and he goes, I don't what do

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you mean? He goes, I
don't know that I have a problem.

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He goes, well, Springer,
for one, He goes, Springer was

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complaining about you. So Schmitty goes
down the hall and springers down there and

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he goes. Then he goes,
Jerry, was there a problem? What

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happened? And Jerry's like, what
are you talking about? And Schmidty goes,

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well, the news director said you
had an issue. And he goes

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We've never had an issue. What
are you saying? He goes, let's

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go down here and settle it out
with the news director. They go into

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the news director's office and the news
director goes, he goes. Jerry says,

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hey, well, what's the deal. I have a problem with wrong,

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We've never had an issue, and
he goes, Uh. The new

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struct goes, hang on, wait
a second, hold on, hold on

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the wait a second. Oh man, Ron, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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I had a dream that Jerry complains. So, so I had this

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dream. It was a dream.
It's gonna pedal letter and his flow over

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this dream. So anyway, but
you know, that's the kind of stuff

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that happened. You know, it's
just a normal kind of a one of

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those odd ball work stories. But
I always say, if I'm going to

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write a book about you know,
TV news, that's that's the kind of

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story that's going in it, because
that kind of crazy stuff happens. You

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know, that was one Jerry was
when I saw him the other day,

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I said, I told him,
I said, I had this idea that

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would have been a great if you
were hosting Saturday Night Live. And he

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got a kick out of this.
I said, I always thought, you

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know, back when Bill Clinton was
president and he had all his issues,

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it would have been a great Saturday
Night Live to have Jerry host and then

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to have you know, like their
imitator of Bill Clinton being you know,

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one the Jerry Trackers shuff and then
you would say and Jerry, you know,

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and you would saying, and Bill, here's Monica Lewinski. She comes

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in, and they got to pull
apart. And just as soon as they

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get them apart, and he goes, well, Bill, you didn't know

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we got Hillary. You know,
she comes in some other big fight and

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they got to separate him. He
got a big kick out of he said.

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No, he goes, but I
could never Saturday Night Live. I

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guess they'd had some discussions about maybe
him hosting, but he had been on

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opposite them, I think at one
point somewhere and there was some kind of

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an issue that he couldn't be on
there and host that he thought it would

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have been a great idea. You
think about failure then success, and this

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is a lesson for each of us. The odds of that kid in Cincinnati

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in nineteen sixty eight, rising politically
like he did, he took over a

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TV show on your station that was
last in the ratings with Norma Rashid.

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Within two years it was number one
with a bullet And then he took over

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a created a television genre that didn't
exist. What's so called tabloid TV did

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not exist until Jerry Springer said,
um, and it began. Seriously what

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uh Tony Kernan and others at TV
five one of a fellow talk show like

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Phil Donahue, kind of a kind
of a serious thing. But they didn't

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want to keep paying the carriage fees
and so that let's and they said,

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well, Jerry said, I can, I'll try that. Well, it

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hurt my credibility on the air,
and the decision made let's go with it

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did not hurt him. So he
took Channel five from the bottom of the

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top. He created an entire genre
of TV talk shows. He got into

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the political world at the bottom,
at the bottom because Al Shottlecott, he

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said, at the time, you
know, Jerry Springer's political life is done

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within two or three years. Hell, he's the mayor of Cincinnati and all

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that with self effacing humor, a
joy to be around and fun to be

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with, and uh, you know, it's fair to say we will never

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see his life again in a positive
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But when I when when Sean Compton
got a hold of me, they're

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retired of the carriage fees at the
CW that they wanted to do a TV

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talk show, and he and Randy
Michael said, let's try Cunningham. So

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the first call I made was to
who Jerry Springer? And he gave me

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four or five I'm Jerry Springer,
Cincinnati and the first time I met him

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was in nineteen seventy eight when he
was the mayor Cincinnati and I moved back

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home from Toledo and I wanted to
get into politics. So I'm made an

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appointment to see Jerry Springer in the
Mayor's office in nineteen seventy eight and he

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said, uh, I said to
what do he want to do? And

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I said, well, you know
I have a law degree and and I've

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been a federal law clerk. And
he said, uh, I'll give you

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a name of somebody to call.
You. Give them a call and they'll

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get you involved from politics. And
I looked at the piece of paper.

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It was John Weathy, John Sacho
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I wanted to see to see Sacho, and he got me involved in

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politics. To Avis defeated twice,
in which case I said, to hell

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with it, I'm gonna keep practicing
law. That's when I went to Gains

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and Gains Attorneys at Law. But
Jerry Springer and I go back the nineteen

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seventy eight and we had dinner together
quite often. He stayed at the Waldorfer

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Historia, which is real close to
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and we're both doing our TV shows
and you talk about a fun time with

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a guy. He never walked into
a room as a stranger. You could

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walk into any bar, any restaurant, any facility from Hawaii to Maine,

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from Florida to Alaska, and people
knew Jerry Springer. And he treated him

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and that we're saying about it,
you know, and see him off.

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He treat him just like you had
known him all You're like like in other

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words, you go up to somebody
sometimes you know like that and you feel

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like you know him, but you
know they don't know you. But he

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made you feel like you didn't know
him, you know, and that he

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didn't know you be he had that
kind of a personality. There's not a

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lot of folks like that left,
and there's also not a lot of folks

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now I'll imagine now here you are. I think some would say, maybe

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you you've been to the conservative side
a little bit. And here's Jerry,

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who you know obviously was to the
left. But here you are, you

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know, able to have a great
time and a conversation and even talk about

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politics and not go at each other's
throats, but to have a good time

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with it and keep it in perspective. We spend time in sarah Sota.

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He had a house on the canal. There had a condo in which his

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daughter lived in Chicago where he died
earlier today. And I tell you and

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brings us to life one' zone mortality
and the difficulty one. He was doing

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Air America down the hallway from US, which was a liberal national. He

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wanted to get into serious issues and
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time together on talk radio. From
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great memories and great photos of him
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fabulous. And it's more of a
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Springer and not really great sorrow,
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of cancer, it's not a shock
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he will be forever young in my
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when he was here, like I
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he probably knew that his time was
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And it was never you know,
there was nothing you wouldn't know.

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There were no indications, you know, no si Les roast. And he

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gave me a call a couple of
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We talked and he said, tell
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there every now and then, but
you got your finger, and tell me

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about si Les. And we talked
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sy We talked about the hard Rock
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and he was in his tucks and
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morey, Jerry didn't look good,
but he was funny, and he said,

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does he have something? I said, well, I'm not sure what.

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I'm not sure what he is.
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But one thing he coined a Channel
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each other. And that's the way
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I see Lester Holt has started doing
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care of yourself and each other?
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well, with your permission, Brian
Hemrick will save the serious issues for another

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time. About this eleven year old
girl that was shot seeming it might be

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more to it than meets the eye. But Cincinnati lost an icon. In

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fact, he's one of the great
four newscasters. But he only spent about

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five or six years, and then
Charlotte Charley Lucan took over. But here

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we are, thirty five forty years
later, in the memory said Jerry Springer

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fled back into my mind. But
Brian Hemrick, give my best. All

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the folks an impact on this city, you know. I mean, that's

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one of the guys you gotta say
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think you take him and Nick Clooney
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out of this little town comes a
whole bunch of media types and all

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began with Pale Crossley, all began
with him. All right, I got

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to run, Brian Hemrika, thank
you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

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Thank you, Thank you, Brian. Well, thanks again, mister

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Cunningham. We'll do it again.
Thank you all. Let's continue with more

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your reaction. More remembrance is coming
up. Bill Cunningham seven hundred WW.

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Rocky boyman here, I can vouch
for Woody send your young man. Starting

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at seven hundred W LW about thirty
five years ago. Sean Compton, who's

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now the CEO and president of many
television networks, including New Nation which is

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twenty four or five, and also
CEW and Moore, and once again Sean

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Compton, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham
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remembrances of the great Jerry Springer Willie. I was in a meeting I'm in

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New York today and I got the
text from NBC, who syndicated Jerry's show

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and who I had worked with when
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and it crushed me. And I'll
tell you why. And I keep News

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Nation right actually right now, we're
doing coverage. We've been doing, you

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know, borderline, wall to wall
coverage on the passing of Jerry on News

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Nation. And that's because so many
people loved Jerry, And I'll tell you

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that I was a ten year old
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in Cincinnati at WLW Studios before we
all moved to Mount Adams, And I

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was a ten year old kid hanging
out with the truck and Bozo and you

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Willie and Springer was in there one
night with Pat Barry. And Pat Barry

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and Jerry were very tight. This
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top of the market. You know, you had Brandon tartakof programming NBC.

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So their lead in was huge with
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Cosby and Cheers and Alf and all
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that did so well, and so
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And Jerry just naturally fit in as
a Cincinnati and even though he originally came

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from New York, and just dominated
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planet in Cincinnati. In the nineteen
eighty four I was at LW and he

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was so nice to me. You
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by the way, a very lovable, sweet way, but Jerry would take

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the time to talk to you and
what do you want to do when you

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grow up. And then I'm thirty
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twenty four years. I am responded
for the fate of Jerry Springer's talk show,

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and Jerry called me and says,
hey, I was always nice to

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you, wasn't I. And he
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you know, he would joke about
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And so when you hear all these
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they're all true. And we would
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Jerry was extremely far left and us
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southern Ohio, even if even lefties
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closer to the middle and um,
you know, so Jerry was an odd

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fit in Cincinnati, but everyone still
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you know. Um. And he
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give money to people that needed it. Um. He didn't take for granted

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his success. Uh. He was
always a little embarrassed at the show that

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he was performing. But because of
that he was able to be a very

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wealthy, successful man and took good
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and he loved his grandson who lives
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just south of south of me at
Evanston, and just a great grandfather,

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a great friend. And it's really
a sad day in Cincinnati and across the

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country. Seaun Compton, CEO of
News Nation, talk about when you and

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Randy Michael said we need to do
something that we don't pay so many carriage

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fees to Jerry Springer, why don't
you try. Bill Cunningham explained the connection

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TV Chicago, Manhattan, and then
we go out to Connecticut, Maury Steve

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him and we got that classic photo
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Explain the thought process. Well,
when we were negotiating with NBC in

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the late two thousands, you know, the economy had gone to hell in

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two thousand and eight, and the
ad economy he's for about you know,

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eighteen months, and so we were
looking to to cut some of our program

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costs that were just out of line
because they were set at earlier rates,

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and so as programs would expire,
we would negotiate a decrease. Well,

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that meant that Jerry and Morey and
the other shows were going to have to

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take a pay cut and you know, people don't like that, by the

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way, nor do I blame them, but that was the reality of the

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environment financially that we were dealing with. And so we said, look,

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if you don't cut these shows,
the pricing on these shows, or come

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up with something creative, then I'm
going to launch my own show and it's

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going to compete with Steve Wilkos and
Maury. It's gonna be called Bill Cunningham

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Show. And they didn't think I
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Willie, I could throw that out
there because I knew you would do it

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if I asked, so sure enough
they wouldn't buckle. So I went ahead

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and we launched your show and it
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travel to New York was too much
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and there was actually a promo and
it's probably on YouTube. I'm sure it

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is. If you type in Moray, Jerry Cunningham, it's going to come

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up where it's you, Moray,
Jerry, Steve Wilcos and it's the four

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of you and you're all doing a
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supported you and they brought you into
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It just goes to show you how
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he you know, he knew you
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was willing to, you know,
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ultimately got the deal done with NBC, and it was a fair deal and

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everyone was much happier. And the
thing is, Jerry, when this was

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kind of announced, calls me and
says, what the hell you doing?

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I said, Jerry, I will
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I said, but can I do
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you call me when you have fears, when you have concerns, give

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me a call. When he did
Air America, down the hallway from us

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and down on the sixth floor of
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was there three or four days a
week with the Galvins, and we would

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get together on each others shows and
go back and forth. A liberal conservative,

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Hannity talked about a regular feature and
as I said, Sean, I don't

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have the time and Jerry says,
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it we'll do it episodically. So
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right, and it seemed to work
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on the air, but off the
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person as I've ever met. Yeah, he would often apologize to people about

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his TV show, you know,
the one with the fighting prostitutes and the

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throwing chairs and you know, the
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I said, you don't ever have
to apologize for something that some other

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person doesn't like. It's not like
you're breaking the law. And but he

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was always, you know, kind
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I wanted to do. But if
if you watch, you know, you

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read any of the books, you
watch any of the documentaries on how television

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morphed in the late nineties, you
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though that format wasn't working anymore,
even though it was, if you remember,

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Donna Hue pushed the envelope and then
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further, and then it was Jerry, and Jerry actually beat Oprah for a

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long stretch there in I want to
say, early mid two thousands. Jerry

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had a like an eighteen month stretch
where he beat Oprah and people have just

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completely forgotten that. But he had
a very long run twenty seven years.

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And I actually was thinking about him
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call him because I hadn't heard from
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found out today that he had pancreatic
cancer and he didn't tell anybody. In

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fact, Richard Dominick, his former
producer, was on News Nation earlier and

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spoken to Jerry a few weeks back,

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and Jerry didn't say anything to him
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private and just a it's a big
loss for Cincinnati because Cincinnati has produced such

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great star power for decades and um, you know, going going way back.

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so um uh you know, it's
just it's sad to see Jerry gone and

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the end of that era. You
talk about the passing and that whole kind

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of a TV show. What Jerry
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sense, but it was fun.
A lot of life is fun. It

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was called a circus. I remember
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which he said Larry King went after
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Well, you know, William Shakespeare
wrote lots of lots of place that

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had some body humor in it.
And I'm not comparing Jerry Springer or William

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Shakespeare, but nonetheless it was a
part of life that he created out of

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nowhere. Before Springer did what he
did, he created a tabloid TV whatever

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is my mother's a prostitute? Who's
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that was Jerry Springer, and he
perfected it and then alone came more a

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few years later. Did He always
did the lot of detect or tests and

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Steve Tent tends to do I don't
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another. And when he was told
by Richard Dominic and others, look we've

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been canceled, kind of tell the
story about when he was told Jerry Springer

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was told that his show was canceled
because it wasn't making it. But then

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the kind of like in my TV
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and they probably don't, is a
surpriser for you. When he went into

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syndication in ninety one. It was
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in downtown Cincinnati. What is that
is it on ELM I think? And

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Crowsley Square. He's up on that
one of the upper floors where they used

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to do the fifty fifty Club fifty
five years ago, and so he was

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up there and so Jerry did the
show there and then after there's those studios

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and they needed to get to the
larger city where they could pack the crowd

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and the audience and get more guests
in and out. So they moved him

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to Chicago after a year and it
just it wasn't clicking, So they canceled

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his show. And Richard Dominic,
his producer, walked out on the sidewalk

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with Jerry and said let's go for
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downtown Chicago, and Richard said,
look, we got nothing to lose all

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these TV stations because they have to
run off our deal. They have to

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keep the show on the air until
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one o'clock in the morning, so
nobody can see it. Jerry, you

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know who's up at one o'clock in
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kids. So let's go appeal to
them. And that's why that format was

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created. And then the ratings shot
up, and then station started moving back

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into desirable time periods and started paying
much larger fees for the show. Jerry

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made a lot of money, and
where he made the largest chunk of his

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money was the pay per view,
if you remember or not, the pay

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per view, the too hot for
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doing that. So the other thing
about Jerry when he finally did stop doing

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the talk show a few years ago, so I oversee the CW network now,

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which I don't let us hang up
without me telling you something. I

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got a message for the segment,
but I oversee the CW network when Jerry

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went into a sort of retirement.
He was doing his little Judge show and

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some tour stuff, but he wasn't
doing the talk show anymore. Jerry.

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We put three years for three seasons. We reran all of Jerry's old show

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because he's got four thousand of them, so we re ran them in the

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00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:10.880
CW three o'clock time period. And
the ratings were just as good as when

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he was producing original shows. So
even in the repeats, Jerry rated really

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00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:21.599
well and had strong numbers. How
would you like? But how would you

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think, Sean Compton, that Jerry
Springer would want to be remembered? What

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he's going to be remember for the
check and for my mothers of prostitute.

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But in reality, the essence and
the substance of Jerry Springer, for those

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who knew him, knew him well, is something I'll never forget. How

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would Jerry Springer like to be remembered
in Cincinnati? Jerry Springer would like to

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00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.400
be remembered for the Eagles concert.
Explain you know what I'm talking about?

426
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:55.160
No, I'll explain. So when
when in Cincinnati, when Jerry was mayor,

427
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he wanted to bring a big concert
to Riverfront Stadium. Remember town shuttered

428
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:03.599
at five o'clock. When I was
a little boy, I'd come into Cincinnati

429
00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:07.240
and you know, the lights were
out at six pm. And so Jerry

430
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:11.000
wanted to bring some energy into the
city. It was other the only draw

431
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:12.799
into the city where the Bengals and
the Reds. And he said, we

432
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:18.079
need a big, big concert to
hold at Riverfront Stadium. And I don't

433
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:22.920
know what year this is. This
was the late seventies whenever his mayoral time

434
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:26.799
was. But the Eagles. He
was able to convince Irving Azoff, who

435
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:30.119
was the manager for the Eagles,
to come to Cincinnati and put the Eagles

436
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.480
in Riverfront Stadium and play there,
and they brought Jerry. So Jerry wanted

437
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:37.160
to be remembered for doing that,
and they brought Jerry on stage to sing

438
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:42.759
with them. And the reason I
say that, of all things, is

439
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:48.480
Jerry was not an original kid from
Cincinnati, came in from New York.

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00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:52.920
But Cincinnati embraced him. And I
say this all the time, Cincinnati is

441
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:57.920
one of the greatest cities in America
because you know, when I worked there,

442
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:02.240
a lot of people that have been
mean to me along the way in

443
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:04.680
my career. No one in Cincinnati
was mean to me other than yiddy,

444
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:08.880
I mean it was it was a
wonderful place to be. They're good people,

445
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:15.200
and that's what Jerry really loved about
Cincinnati. I don't I don't know

446
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:18.759
if he had it recently, but
up until, you know, a decade

447
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.559
ago, he still kept an apartment
in downtown Cincinnati. He still had a

448
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.240
place to go to when he was
home. Yeah. Well, we embraced

449
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:30.119
him because he was legitimate. He
didn't fit in. Can you imagine a

450
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:36.799
Jewish liberal whose many family members were
murdered during the Holocaust to locate in Cincinnati

451
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:41.519
during the Bobby Kennedy for President nineteen
sixty eight. After that, he was

452
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.480
got into a funk of depression.
After Bobby was murdered, goes to New

453
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:49.359
Orleans to go to Tulane. They
would admit him. Then he goes to

454
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:52.680
Northwestern. He loves Chicago. That
kept in the back of his mind.

455
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:59.119
Then came back to Cincinnati and practiced
law with Ron Drinker and Harry Sudman.

456
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:02.400
But Jerry he mainly wanted to stay
in politics. He wanted a serious life.

457
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:07.480
He ran for his city council,
was elected four times, was selected

458
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:09.480
as the mayor, and in the
early nineteen eighties he ran for governor.

459
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:12.880
He wanted to be the governor.
He wanted to be a senator. He

460
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:15.720
would call every now and then and
ask me politically, what's happening in Ohio?

461
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:20.160
Isn't my time yet? Do you
think do you think I can actually

462
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:22.240
beat Mike DeWine for the senator for
the governorship? I said, no,

463
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.039
Jerry, things have changed. I
don't think you can. So I take

464
00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:30.240
the places. So and so he
kept looking for a political way to actually

465
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:35.240
win and make the lives of others
better. And it's sad he did.

466
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:38.160
Yeah, you know what, You
just said it, and I was about

467
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:43.559
to say it. He really did. Whether you liked Jerry's politics or not,

468
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:49.599
he really did want to make people's
lives better. He did suffer.

469
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:52.559
We were at lunch many times in
Chicago, Jerry and I would have lunch

470
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:58.440
every six months, and he broke
down and started crying when he was talking

471
00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:00.319
about some of his family members killed
on the Holocaust. Because he was a

472
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:05.480
little boy. And here's a story
I'll tell you. He had a grandfather

473
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:09.240
that lived with them here in the
United States when they came over from England.

474
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:12.400
I think he was born in England
and they got over here. His

475
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:16.440
family escaped the Holocaust, his parents
and his grandfather was too old to drive.

476
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:21.440
His grandfather was I think he was
in his eighties or early nineties.

477
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:25.319
And Jerry's mom or dad said,
Dad, you can't keep that car anymore.

478
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:28.640
We're gonna get rid of the car. You can't, you're too old

479
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:30.319
to drive. And he said,
you will never get rid of that car.

480
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:36.440
That's my only escape from trouble.
And you know they lived with that.

481
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:39.480
I mean, you can can imagine. And Jerry grew up with those

482
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:45.079
fears and it, you know,
it made him. I think because of

483
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:47.920
that, it made he has such
a big heart. He had seen the

484
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:51.839
hell that a lot of people go
through that we take for granted in this

485
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:55.640
country. And I'm gonna miss him. I'm upset I didn't. I was

486
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:59.079
thinking about him a few weeks back. I was going to call him and

487
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:02.119
I didn't. But fortunately have one
of his voicemails that I'll keep on my

488
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:06.680
phone forever. But he was very
kind. He was a very kind man.

489
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:10.280
Yeah, very kind. Yes,
Shan Compton, I have one message

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00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:14.559
for the for the yid man.
Yeah, I'm sorry for the segment I

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00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:17.599
got the men Matt Row segment.
Needs to watch the CW tonight at nine

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00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:22.400
o'clock we have the debut and I
was thinking about segment. We developed this

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00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:27.679
hundred days to the Indy five hundred. It's a special docuseriies to anyone that

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00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.840
loves the Indy five hundred and I
know the segment does. He's got to

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00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:34.880
watch it tonight on the CW.
Sean Compton, we lost a friend,

496
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:38.480
and thank you very much for coming
on the Bill Cunningham Show. Shaun Compton,

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00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:43.440
Radio TV executive, Thank you very
much, Thanks Will, thanks for

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00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:46.000
the line becomes available five one,
three, seven, four, nine,

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seven thousand. Later on is Trecia
Mackie and many others on News Radio seven

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hundred w LW issues facing our justice
involved veterans. Let's continue. Bill Cunningham

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00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:07.280
joining us now as a Chrisha Mackey, the main anchor at Fox nineteen,

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00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:14.079
and Tricia fair To say that aren't
a lot of icons along the way of

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00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:19.960
a Jerry Springer, But in broadcasting, what did Jerry Springer mean to Cincinnati

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00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:22.039
and I guess to the nation,
And secondly, what are your memories of

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00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:30.039
him? You know he brought he
was. He was Cincinnati News for a

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00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:35.920
long time. He really was.
I mean he was. His commentaries or

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00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.840
something that I will I'll never forget
Bill. I mean, you know,

508
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:44.079
kind of like the commentaries that you
do now. You know, it's just

509
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:46.639
you guys were kind of like these
two because I put you in that same

510
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:51.199
basket, just a you know,
an icon, somebody that you aspire to

511
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:55.239
be. Young journalists aspire to be
like that, somebody that's smart, well

512
00:35:55.360 --> 00:36:01.239
fought, well fought out, crable, someone that you would go to to

513
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:06.400
get your information. I mean I
would stay up when I was a kid

514
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:12.920
at night to listen to his commentaries. I mean they were fantastic because there

515
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:15.320
was something that like you never saw
on television news. Usually you just saw

516
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:19.480
talking heads that would just read the
news. But the fact that he would

517
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:23.519
get up there and he would have
these well thought out, you know,

518
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:29.440
commentaries night after night. And then
the the partnership that him and Norma Rashid

519
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:34.199
would have together, if that was
something that young journalists aspired to be back

520
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:37.519
in the day. You know,
he went round and around with Tony Kurrn

521
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:42.320
and the folks that ran Channel five
at the time because it was considered bad

522
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:47.159
form for an objective, independent newsman
or a woman to give a commentary,

523
00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:52.159
and Jerry fought him and said,
let's try this for two weeks and I'll

524
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:57.519
do commentaries. At the end,
I'll do the news straight. But then

525
00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:01.719
I want to make a substantive contribution
to our society. And he always fought

526
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:07.360
the trash TV against this seriousness.
He did work on the BBC. He

527
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:12.119
also wanted to do serious talk radio
Air America and he wanted to be serious.

528
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:15.280
But he kept fighting what he was
and after two weeks the management of

529
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:19.239
Channel five said, you know what, we're getting a bump out of this.

530
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.800
Keep going, keep going, And
at some point Jerry would not have

531
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:27.360
done the news except for the fact
he wanted to do the commentaries, which

532
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:30.440
he considered the most important part of
what he did. Then when he went

533
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:34.599
to Chicago back and forth, that
became a hassle to such a degree.

534
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:38.920
But those commentaries is what he's known
for, because anyone it can do.

535
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:45.360
But but I is at that point, I was somewhat I was a Democrat,

536
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:49.119
believe it or not, and I
developed my own philosophy over the years.

537
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.480
But Jerry Springer and I would get
together. New York would get together

538
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:54.840
here and there, and I don't
care how much we disagreed about Trump.

539
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:59.800
He thought Trump was the embodiment of
evil in the world. I thought Barack

540
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:04.880
saying Obama was a disaster who lost
the opportunities to lead this nation onto a

541
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:08.039
better course. But we could disagree
and be friendly with each other. And

542
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:12.559
that's lost so many times today.
Oh it is. And you know,

543
00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:17.960
and it's funny because I often wonder
if somebody nowadays could be the same news

544
00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:22.440
anchor and still do commentaries. And
I think it's impossible, because I think

545
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:24.000
it's lost. I think that you
right now, you either have people that

546
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:29.039
are the news anchors who who try
their best to be objective. You know,

547
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:30.880
those are the You know that that's
me. I try to do the

548
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:34.039
news every night, and I try
to be objective, and I try to

549
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:36.480
give you the truth. I try
to see both sides. But at the

550
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:38.159
end of the show, there's no
way that I could do a commentary,

551
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:42.320
not in this day and age,
and tell you my opinions on something.

552
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:45.840
It's just it doesn't work. He
was able to do that delicate balance,

553
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:50.719
and you could tell which way he
sat on the fence. He never sat

554
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:54.559
on the fence. I mean,
he was absolutely a full blown Democrat.

555
00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:58.480
And even when I would meet him, like later in life, or you

556
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:01.440
know, I did profile piece is
on him Bill, and we would talk

557
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:05.639
about the craziness that he would do
about the Jerry Springer Show, and he

558
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:07.679
goes, Oh, yeah, that's
just us. You know, that's just

559
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:09.679
a pony show. That's just stupid. That's just for the ratings, that's

560
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:13.039
just for you know, this is
stupid. That's not who I am.

561
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.440
And it really wasn't. He was
like this. That was kind of like

562
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:20.840
the entertainment side of him, like
the p. T. Barnum side of

563
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:23.559
him. But he was a very
serious and very smart guy. You know.

564
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:27.440
One time I interviewed him and we
were talking about him being the mayor

565
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:29.039
and stuff like that, and I
said, okay, Jerry, you know

566
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:31.800
I have to ask you about paying
a hooker with the check. I've got

567
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:34.559
to ask you, you know,
And he said, Yeah, was that

568
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:37.360
the damn dumbest thing you've ever heard
of your life? He goes, that

569
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:39.280
kind of sums it all up,
doesn't it, Mackie, you know,

570
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:43.360
and he just he took it.
I mean, that was just something that

571
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:47.000
you could talk to him about and
it was just part of who he was.

572
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:52.039
But he was so much smarter than
that. And at the time that

573
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:55.519
by the way, the check was
good, but the hooker wanted to keep

574
00:39:55.519 --> 00:40:00.239
the check for insurance purposes, and
when she was pinched, she produced a

575
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:05.119
check and the police in Newport could
not believe it's real. They got to

576
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:07.920
hold it. Jerry Springer directly,
let me call you back. He spent

577
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:09.800
about ten to fifteen minutes. How
am I going to do this? How

578
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:13.000
am I going to play this?
Am I going to deny it? I

579
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:16.679
knew the check was out there,
but and he and he told the police

580
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:21.960
to truth. This is what happened. And then the prosecutor at that point

581
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:27.000
was it was Si Lease and side
Leise wanted to haul him into court,

582
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:30.360
wanted to make sure he was found
guilty. And part of the deal was

583
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:35.079
you won't run Frenny political office,
but that was not in the final court

584
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:39.280
order. And side Leise was so
angry at Jerry because Jerry had told Si

585
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:45.920
that he wouldn't run political office again, and so side Lease continued until years

586
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:49.559
later. Now the two loved each
other. They did the roast together about

587
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.679
a month month and a half ago
at the hard Rock Cafe, and side

588
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:59.000
Lease for years said that Jerry Springer
was a liar, and Jerry Springer said,

589
00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:00.800
I never told him I would never
run. He said, I told

590
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:06.079
him it's unlikely I would be a
viable candidate in the future. Jerry and

591
00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:09.800
side Lease took out as a promise, but Jerry wanted to keep open.

592
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:14.480
And so what Jerry said was I'm
gonna run for city counsel the next year.

593
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:17.480
And he ran near the top of
the list. Because this was a

594
00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:22.920
guy who was a human being.
Within a couple more years, he is

595
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.239
the mayor for like one year,
and then he got to Channel five.

596
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:30.639
Did the commentaries, which your comments
about the commentaries, well one eperson on

597
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:34.719
the market and defined him. They
took Channel five from the bottom within two

598
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:37.480
years to the top. And then
he took a TV tabloid show which he

599
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:42.960
created out of nowhere. It didn't
exist when he started. And then he

600
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:45.800
was failing. A guy named Richard
Dominick, who was as executive producer,

601
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:49.800
said, look, we've been canceled. They don't want to cancel us now.

602
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:52.480
They had a big meeting they told
the staff, look this isn't working.

603
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:57.800
The Phil Donahue approach isn't working.
We got three months, and so

604
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:04.119
Richard Dominick talked Jerry Spring into doing
a tabloid type TV show. Within those

605
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.440
three months, he was beating Oprah
Winfrey in her prime in the ratings,

606
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:10.559
and so there's, oh my god, what are we gonna do? He

607
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:14.360
went with him for the next twenty
seven years. That's what he did.

608
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:17.239
It's only I mean, like you, the things that he came up with,

609
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:22.559
being told he couldn't do it and
proven them wrong over and over.

610
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:27.800
I mean, it's crazy, an't
it. A poor Jewish kid who's whose

611
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:34.239
grandparents were murdered in the Holocaust,
comes to Cincinnati to assist Bobby Kennedy to

612
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:38.519
run for the presidency, assassinated,
ends up in New Orleans, goes to

613
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:43.639
Tulane, then gets to Chicago on
a scholarship to go to law school.

614
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:46.239
Came back to Cincinnati. He wanted
his life here. He loved Cincinnati.

615
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:52.199
He hooked up with a guy named
Harry Sudman who was an attorney Sudman and

616
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:55.559
Springer. Sugman was a first class
a lawyer, but Jerry wanted to do

617
00:42:55.639 --> 00:43:00.320
other things in his life, get
back into politics. He ran for Govenor

618
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:06.639
finished third and that's then the TV
show Channel five News and then his Jerry

619
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:09.440
Springer. He also did all kinds
of other shows. You know, he

620
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:15.880
did Miss America, he did Miss
World. Uh, he did The Price

621
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:20.519
is Right at the hard Rock The
Guy. And then when I they contacted

622
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:23.679
me to do a Jerry Springer type
show, who was the first person I

623
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:30.159
called Jerry Springer? I mean,
that's and that's and it's funny because that's

624
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:34.440
why I put the two of you
in the same sentence, because you know,

625
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:40.719
you guys redefined not even news,
he redefined like entertainment slash news,

626
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:45.719
slash talk shows, you know,
all of that stuff, you know.

627
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:47.280
I mean, I'm serious. It's
just the two of you have so much

628
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:52.320
in common, you know, I
said, Jerry, just a credibility factor.

629
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:55.119
I mean, even so you saw
on the other night and uh Dancing

630
00:43:55.119 --> 00:44:00.519
with the Stars right right? Yes, terrible. So was there any indication

631
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:02.800
that did we know? Me?
I assumed? Is it was it cancer?

632
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:07.079
I don't even know this yet.
Yes, yes, yes it was

633
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:13.119
cancer. And it was something that
lingered for several months, and he was

634
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:15.840
fighting it as well as he could. When he came here about a month

635
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:20.800
ago for that roast of side Lease, he was not in good shape,

636
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:23.320
but he said, I made a
commitment to do it. And I think

637
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:27.480
he knew in his mind that you
know, when a seventy nine year old

638
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:31.519
dies, it's not a shock,
but he knew what was happening and what.

639
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:36.239
I called Jerry about the TV show
and I said, can I do

640
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:40.599
a TV show like that? I
said, I've seen bits and pieces,

641
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:45.840
but during the day, like you, Tricia McKie, I'm working. He

642
00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:49.000
said, of course you can.
He said, I'll help you all.

643
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:52.960
I got producers, I'll help you
come along. And so we worked together

644
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:58.039
on it in Chicago and then Connecticut, and then he did his production in

645
00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:01.519
Connecticut. I did mine, and
and Manhattan, and we got together once

646
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:07.079
a month to talk, and the
two Cincinnatians in New York City, and

647
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.480
he kept saying, Man, can
you believe this is happening? I said,

648
00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:14.119
Jerry, I have no idea if
somebody would told me I would spend

649
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:17.199
five years doing a television talk show, are you kidding me? That's not

650
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:22.280
even something I even tried to do. And and you never never heard a

651
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:28.239
bad word about a person. Jerry
Springer was a liberal as liberal who didn't

652
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:32.079
like censorship on college campuses. He
was a traditional liberal who would not have

653
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:36.639
liked that. But isn't it fair
to say we'll never see his like again?

654
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:38.599
That's it? No, I said, no, you will, you

655
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:40.960
won't. I mean, I can
remember even being up on your set in

656
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.480
Chicago when your show was just starting. We talked about Jerry Springer. Now

657
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:47.920
I remember being there in Chicago with
you talking about that. Now you want

658
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.159
I said, Oh my god,
I said, you talking about over my

659
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:57.000
skis. Geez. Oh no,
you you knew you hit everything out of

660
00:45:57.039 --> 00:45:58.840
the ballpark. You know that,
you know I'm a fan. Hey,

661
00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:01.519
let me ask you this though,
what's like if you wanted to if somebody

662
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:04.719
were calling you say, if I'm
calling you, I'm doing an interview with

663
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:09.000
you, and I want to ask
you give me one encapsulate a memory of

664
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:12.400
Jerry Springer. How would you do
it? Because I think that you're one

665
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:15.679
of those people that knew him well, if not the best, in all

666
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:22.079
of Cincinnati. His generosity. He
would give away money to guests and to

667
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:28.480
people who needed it. He was
a multi multi millionaire, generous self effacing,

668
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:34.800
never never took himself seriously. He
was serious about politics and policy.

669
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:38.559
He wasn't serious about Dancing with the
Stars, or The Prices Right, or

670
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:44.239
the Jerry Springer Show or Judge Jerry. He said he did that for the

671
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:46.400
money and I have some fun,
but it was serious. He loved his

672
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:51.880
family, He loved his daughter,
I loved his wife, loved life.

673
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:55.960
Jerry Springer was friendly and fun and
from the first time I met him in

674
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:00.840
nineteen seventy seven to the last time
I talked to him about two or three

675
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:05.639
months ago, every conversation we could
go a year or two or three and

676
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:08.679
never speak, but every time I
spoke to him, it was like we'd

677
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:14.840
just spoken the previous hour. He
was a friendly, fun guy, and

678
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:17.599
I know, I know I'm gonna
miss him. He was a good man.

679
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:22.519
That's well said, all right,
Tricia McKie, We'll be watching tonight,

680
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:27.039
And once again, thank you for
coming on the Bill Cunningham Show when

681
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:30.400
you talked about coming to Chicago to
do those pilots. The producer of that

682
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:36.960
show of mine was Richard Dominick,
who was Jerry Springer's executive producer for twenty

683
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:40.119
years, and we spoke about Jerry
and he said, I can't believe a

684
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:45.199
quick study. He's smart, he
gets it, he performs and he said

685
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:49.159
watch. He gave me a real
as some of Jerry Springer's better shows and

686
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:52.119
said, if you can, if
you can be similar to that, you'll

687
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:55.760
be successful. And whether it was
Steve or it was Morey, they all

688
00:47:55.800 --> 00:48:00.800
grew from the tree of Jerry Springer. And I think news anchors today,

689
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:04.760
you're from our community. You understand
this, and so many are that once

690
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:07.960
you come to Cincinnati. He was
in London, he was in New York,

691
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:09.760
he was in Chicago. Who is
in New Orleans, but the one

692
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:15.440
place he wanted to live with Cincinnati, Ohio. He seemed to me like

693
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:17.920
he was just a genuine person.
He every time I talked to him,

694
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:22.920
he was happy. He would joke, he would joke about politics. Yeah,

695
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:27.320
he was so much credibility when he
was anchoring the news and he and

696
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:30.320
he let his personality come back,
which is something that I've always tried to

697
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:34.039
do, just you know, just
be kind of like one of the gang.

698
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:36.079
We're just sitting around and we're going
to talk about the news. We're

699
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:37.960
gonna do the news every night and
have a little bit of fun, but

700
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:42.039
I'm going to tell you what's going
on. Trisha Mackie, thank you,

701
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:45.840
and take care of yourself and each
other. Thanks buddy, thank you.

702
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:49.559
Let's continue your comments five one,
three, seven, four, nine,

703
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seven thousand. Bill Cunningham News Radio
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704
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705
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and got arrested and since he was
a ward of the state, the state

706
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was dismiss No, that's just as amazing

707
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708
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Always the perfect size. Bengals.
Hello, I'm broadcasting segment. Who do

719
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:24.360
they pick tonight? I don't know, Willie. We gotta wait until about

720
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:30.719
LA round eleven tied end from Covington
Catholic Michael Mayer. I was besieged by

721
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:36.679
mayor supporters yesterday on a plane from
Ford Myers to Cincinnati. He may be

722
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:39.920
headed to Uh, the Patriots may
get him before the Bengals do. It's

723
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:43.960
a no Mayor. I don't know. We lost him there, Jaffrey Springer.

724
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:46.360
How about that icon of television?
Will he right there? He's on

725
00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:52.079
the Mountain Rushmore? You agree that
Mount Rushmore? Yeah? I mean you

726
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:55.119
know he goes through that thing with
the check and the hooker over there was

727
00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:58.559
good by the way, and then
and then he was good. Then he

728
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:02.559
ends up A legendary newscaster and anchor
at Channel five and then does his show.

729
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.960
Unbelievable career for that man. He
did too hot for TV. Did

730
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:10.599
those Member of videos, DVDs and
all that stuff. He did too hot

731
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:15.239
for TV. Some of the outtakes
that you couldn't put on television, they

732
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:19.599
were much worse than the TV show
itself, which I enjoyed. He taught

733
00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:22.079
me quite a bit segment, Give
me some sports. The reds are rolling,

734
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:25.639
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738
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00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:52.639
from the Southern Command thirty eight fifty
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741
00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:02.760
wish a happy anniversary today to Donna
and Ron Larkin. Really yes, she's

742
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:07.800
pretty young to be married a guy
that age. And uh, Prince Ron

743
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:13.320
Junior, he was down the phone
today. It looked like look like Prince

744
00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:19.559
Harry does he Eva, Meghan,
I'm sure he does. That's the NFL

745
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:23.000
Draft kicks off tonight, Willie in
Kansas City. I'm going to Kansas City,

746
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:29.000
uh with round number one the Bengals, barring a trade pick twenty eighth

747
00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:34.199
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750
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Federal Credit Union. Right here on
seven hundred wallw Who the Bengal is gonna

751
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:55.360
takes? Carolina is picking number one? Who do they like? Oh?

752
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:59.760
C? J. Stroud? You
know somebody? Some people say will Levi

753
00:52:59.800 --> 00:53:06.079
us at a Kentucky's stock has has
risen greatly not the past few days to

754
00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:12.280
Stut's going to be the most picks
in the draft twelve Texans Raiders, Packers,

755
00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:16.639
fewest picks, Dolphins with five now
no picks in the first round to

756
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:22.039
night include the Rams, forty nine, Ers, Dolphins, Broncos and Browns.

757
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:24.360
No, just just gonna sit back
and wait till tomorrow. What about

758
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:30.400
the Bengals? Bengals are picking twenty
eighth. Okay, the Reds. How

759
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:34.320
about that. You leave town and
look what happens to get three walk off

760
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:37.679
jobs in a row against the pretty
darn good team. Pretty good. They

761
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:40.000
were in first place, the Rangers. The Reds are off today. Here

762
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:44.800
we go, Red Legs, Here
we go. When did he come back?

763
00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:46.320
He's coming back? Oh, he's
coming back. Oh, back to

764
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:52.039
Bengals. Well, we want to
say congratulations to Phil am Rhine. He's

765
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:55.440
a jeweler out of coal Rain.
He's the Raining Bengals fan of the year,

766
00:53:55.480 --> 00:54:00.360
and he's going to announce the first
pick tonight on national tele Vision.

767
00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:06.119
We got a report here that,
according to Tom Ashmore, it appears that

768
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:10.360
Sinzel pulled a ham string during his
home run celebration. Is that true?

769
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:15.159
No, that's not true. He's
pulled a hamstring. No, heard a

770
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:19.880
toe, No, sprained his shoulder. Nope, you're sure I saw him

771
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:23.400
yesterday after the game. No,
he's on the DL Nope. Please continue.

772
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:28.679
Reds are off today their first and
twenty days, spending it in beautiful

773
00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:34.400
San Francisco and Oakland. That's a
mistake. Six game road trip commences tomorrow

774
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:37.559
night, with the first of three
up against the A's in Oakland and they

775
00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:40.880
really stink, Yes they do,
but they play San Diego correct. Then

776
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:46.159
they come home to the White Sox
and you're man, Andrew Bennettendi, I

777
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:51.519
taught him out a hit. Let's
see FC Cincinnati beat the Louisville City FC

778
00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:55.039
last night the US Open Cup,
so FCC advanced to the thirty two at

779
00:54:55.079 --> 00:55:00.679
the round of thirty two and a
competition there, ehl ha Pierre, beloved

780
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:04.960
Cyclones. We'll play at Fort Wayne
tomorrow night in the first round of their

781
00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:14.239
Kelly Cup playoff series with since up
two games to one. Go with him

782
00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:17.760
the Xavier women's golf team. I'm
sure you've taught these ladies well, Willie.

783
00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:22.840
They just won their fourth Big East
championship. They're headed to the NCUBA

784
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:29.079
Regionals in a couple of weeks in
Westfield, Indiana. And c J.

785
00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:35.480
Frederick, I know you you've you
taught him out of shoot versus versus.

786
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:42.079
His uncle will now play for the
Cincinnati Bearcats. Why not? Savior obvious

787
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:44.920
with Sean Miller yesterday. Oh,
I don't know. I don't know what

788
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:50.119
the deal is with x Purcell Marian's
d Alexander is the inquired choice for the

789
00:55:51.159 --> 00:55:55.079
Division two Player of the Year.
And I'm sure you'll be there, Willie.

790
00:55:55.119 --> 00:56:00.320
The Memorial Tournament coming up at the
end of next month starting he made

791
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:04.199
twenty ninth the beautiful mirror Field Village. Isn't it one of those special tournaments?

792
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:08.559
The home of the home of Kent
Merker. Is it designated uh Memorial.

793
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:15.039
Last year's winner Billy Horshell, world
number two, Scottie Scheffler, two

794
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:20.960
time two time major champ, and
the reigning PGA champion Justin Thomas, and

795
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:25.039
the last year's Rookie of the Year
Cameron young Evola said there. They will

796
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:29.119
be there for the big Memorial tournament. I think about that. I got

797
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:32.519
a text here from Seawan Compton who
says the following, tell the segment.

798
00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:37.280
I have the one hundred days to
end the premiering tonight on the CW.

799
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:40.559
I know at nine o'clock. I
can't wait to see it. Yeah,

800
00:56:40.559 --> 00:56:45.760
are you kidding? One hundred days? That's right? Who's gonna win this

801
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:49.239
year? I don't know, Well, he gotta that's a month, that's

802
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:52.840
a few weeks away yet, I
gotta you know about Emerson Fittipaldi. Now

803
00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:59.599
he's not racing anymore. Marcus Ericson
is the defending champion. Hush chocolate and

804
00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:05.440
dread? Who Andretti? Uh,
probably Marco's in it. What about Jeff

805
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:07.840
Gordon? No, he's retired,
he's in NASCAR, he's not in Indy

806
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:12.360
Cars. Didn't he raise that at
one point? Uh? No, please

807
00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:16.360
continue. That's about it. So
glad, glad, you have returned triumphant,

808
00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:21.679
triumphantly along with other Cincinnatians. And
I'll tell you there's a lot of

809
00:57:21.679 --> 00:57:23.400
a lot of fans and a lot
of fans years on the plane, Great

810
00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:29.400
Christopher Athletic director of Xavier Wow Sean
Miller. I told Sean Miller, keep

811
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:32.840
hope alive, Sean, keep hope
alive. When you when you get on

812
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:37.079
a plane like in public, is
it is it like does the does the

813
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:43.639
explane like explode in like? Uh? In emotions that people can't adequately adequately

814
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:45.679
express, they stand up an applaud? Do they? And I always sit

815
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:49.559
like in twenties that way too.
Is that for the first lady or is

816
00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:52.760
that for you? You make?
And then I always walked past two applause.

817
00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:54.840
Then I sit down. People say
why are you sitting back here?

818
00:57:54.880 --> 00:57:59.239
And I said, I'm the voice
of the common man, for God's sakes,

819
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:02.480
and the voice and the common man
on the airplane conscience of America.

820
00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:06.719
I'm want to be with schleps like
you. I don't want to be up

821
00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:09.880
there in first class with Bob Summer
All and the rich people Jeff Weiler or

822
00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:15.480
the rich and the famous. Yeah, I'm gonna be Gregory Dean Gregory.

823
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:19.360
Yeah. I want to be with
the schleps. Yeah, Elmer Hendler's up

824
00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:22.559
front. Yeah, I'm back in
the schleps. Okay, That's where I

825
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:27.639
belong. I may be a common
man, but I voiced the hopes of

826
00:58:27.679 --> 00:58:30.519
the common men and women. And
I tell women that I meet, Yeah,

827
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:34.280
they always come up to me.
Of course. Any advice, I

828
00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:37.440
said, Yes, find a man
that you want to live the rest of

829
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:42.800
your life with. Have children,
get married first, have children, have

830
00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:46.079
grandchildren. I've met many women thirty
five, forty forty five years old that

831
00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:52.039
follow the toxic femininity route. By
that, I mean I don't need a

832
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:54.760
man. What route is that?
Is that off seventy five or something?

833
00:58:54.840 --> 00:59:00.599
Toxic femininity means don't have a serious
relationship with man, Go to college,

834
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:04.440
go to medical school, go to
law school, have your own career.

835
00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:08.320
Get to be about thirty thirty five
years old. You have no significant other

836
00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:13.400
and you have no children, no
hopes of having grandchildren. You get to

837
00:59:13.400 --> 00:59:16.320
be thirty five or forty, the
clock has ticked. Now you're in deep

838
00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:22.519
trouble and you get bitter angry.
You have testosterone, and Tricia Mackie has

839
00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:28.840
estrogen. For a reason. The
two genders are equal, but different.

840
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:34.159
Women need to be women and men
need to be men. Men, get

841
00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:39.119
off porn, get off the websites, get off all the twitter bs and

842
00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:43.079
find a woman you want to spend
the rest of your life with. Forget

843
00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:46.320
about the video games. They don't
matter. Too Many Americans, especially women,

844
00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:51.880
i'd say by seventy to thirty,
want a less traditional role. They

845
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:54.199
want to they want to bring home
the bacon fried up in the pan.

846
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:59.320
Never make you forget you're not a
man, and they want to have victims

847
00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:02.880
of talk. Seek femininity. Find
a man that's the most important thing in

848
01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:06.960
your life. At the end of
your days, you're going to reflective on

849
01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:10.320
time with your family, with your
children, with your grandchildren, maybe with

850
01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:15.519
your great grandchildren. You're not going
to worry about a bill that wasn't met

851
01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:19.719
on time, or some job you
didn't take, or something of that character.

852
01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:22.679
If you're a younger woman, identify
a man that you want to spend

853
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:25.760
the rest of your life with.
You have estrogen for a reason, and

854
01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:30.079
damn it, I got testosterone for
a reason. Don't chemically change that.

855
01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:36.960
Follow the dreams of women for generations
and thousands of years. Find a man,

856
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:39.880
get married, have children. Secondarily, if you want to work,

857
01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:45.199
have at it. Work, But
your main focus has got to be forming

858
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:50.159
a family structure that makes sense for
you. You know what I'm saying.

859
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:52.519
Oh, that's a that's a heck
of a speech that you just gave.

860
01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:59.039
There didn't the music. I didn't
mean to music. Well, let's face

861
01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:00.800
it, you may had those in
a while. You may pick the wrong

862
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:06.039
man, you may pick the wrong
woman. It may happen. Work through

863
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:12.320
your difficulties and stay together, much
like al Green would say, stay together

864
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:15.239
and fight through the problems. Don't
give up, don't quit, don't stop.

865
01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:20.480
Forty forty I know lawyers and judges
forty to fifty years old that are

866
01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:23.239
female. Yeah, they have no
husbands, they have no children, no

867
01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:29.159
prospect of having children, no grandchildren. They have all the things they need

868
01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:36.400
in life, all right, except
substance and the reason to live here comments

869
01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:40.360
you're taking marriage counselor classes in your
off time or something that's pretty good?

870
01:01:40.519 --> 01:01:44.880
Oh, thank you and welcome anything
else. In sports, give me your

871
01:01:44.920 --> 01:01:49.719
selection. I'm saying it's gonna be
Mike Mayer of Notre Dame. What do

872
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:52.679
you say? If he's there?
Will he take him? Because he'd be

873
01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:55.440
a heck of a target for number
nine. That would be wonderful to have

874
01:01:55.760 --> 01:02:00.320
Michael Mayer as in a Bengal uniform. Will he be there? That I

875
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:05.119
don't know? I mean he might
shouldn't slide there? Who you should know?

876
01:02:05.239 --> 01:02:07.400
Oh, nobody knows. Why don't
you know? Carolina is on the

877
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:13.119
clock now, Kansas, right,
they're right now on the clock now,

878
01:02:13.559 --> 01:02:19.599
and then Houston is second tomorrow second
and third, correct, and then four,

879
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:23.639
then four through seven. They pick
like like like crazy on Saturday.

880
01:02:23.679 --> 01:02:27.719
There could be a Tom Brady in
that selection, now, wouldn't that be

881
01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:30.280
something? I'm thinking? Maybe?
Uh, they there's a good corner back

882
01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:36.199
in out of Mississippi state that I
think they like, and that there's a

883
01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:42.760
massive offensive lineman I think out of
northern Michigan. Who's like as big as

884
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:45.039
this room. Well, they got
plenty of lineman, don't they. Well,

885
01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:49.679
we don't know about Jonah Williams.
It's Collins back, Colin Jonah got

886
01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:52.159
to play. I don't know,
you should find out. How about the

887
01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:58.400
last player selected by the forty nine
ers a few years ago, starting quarterback?

888
01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:02.199
Right, I don't know. It'll
be it'll it'll commence at eight o'clock

889
01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:06.719
to night and see what happens.
Mel Kiper will be there with his hairdo

890
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:13.000
and going nuts. What about Jerry
Springer sad Day Willie and local television and

891
01:03:13.239 --> 01:03:15.440
international television? Man? I mean
that guy, he did it all.

892
01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:21.679
I mean he's a legendary iconic broadcaster. And Jerry Springer, which way,

893
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:24.360
he did Miss World in Miss Universe
contest, right, he did Let's make

894
01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:28.440
a deal yep, not talking to
a hooker either, he said let's make

895
01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:30.400
a deal. He did that show. Of course he did judge Jerry.

896
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:34.559
That's right, Jerry Springer show.
Got about that. Yeah, that's true,

897
01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:37.679
did it all segment? And he
was and they were number one with

898
01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:44.280
Norma Jerry pat berrys DJ there at
the time. I think it was George

899
01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:47.960
George v no Ken, I think
it was ken Brew. I call him

900
01:03:49.559 --> 01:03:53.559
Ken call ken Brew up. I
don't think it was DJ. I think

901
01:03:53.559 --> 01:03:57.400
he was. I don't. I
think he was a nine or twelve back

902
01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:00.239
eighty three, eighty four, eighty
five, I don't know. I mean

903
01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:03.119
that forty years to go a forty
years unbelievable, Andy Mac take man,

904
01:04:03.199 --> 01:04:05.920
get me out of the students Report, please, well ya, this is

905
01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:12.559
the fortieth anniversary of then manager of
the Cubs, Lee Elia, ripping onto

906
01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:17.039
fans and a classic tirade. We
leave you with the immortal words of the

907
01:04:17.159 --> 01:04:23.960
Student Report. All these don't call
fans that come out, and they're Cub

908
01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:28.400
fans that are supposed to be behind
it, ripping everything you do. I've

909
01:04:28.440 --> 01:04:31.679
done your l thing. I hope
we get hider just to pump it up

910
01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:36.920
them. Three thousands and people to
show up every day, because if they're

911
01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:43.119
the real Chicago fans, they can
kiss my dad right downtown and print it

912
01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:49.599
and really really behind you around here, right Dad? What am I supposed

913
01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:53.159
to do it? We're out there
and letting my players get destroyed every day

914
01:04:53.320 --> 01:04:56.800
and be quiet about it. But
Nickel nine people to show up. The

915
01:04:56.920 --> 01:05:00.239
mothers don't even work, That's right, around up the game, by god,

916
01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:02.400
and get a job and find out
what it's like to go out there

917
01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:08.599
on a living eighty five person won't
working the other fifth thing come out here

918
01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:18.320
playing around breaking suckers. I've done
cooking tuckers like the players that guy fusing

919
01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:23.480
their pasts. Enough people pooh,
and that's the cut, my aunt.

920
01:05:27.079 --> 01:05:30.960
They talk about the great the point
that the players get around here. I

921
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:35.159
haven't seen it this here. Well, how long did he survive after that

922
01:05:35.199 --> 01:05:39.320
one? Not long? I think
by Sundays. I guarantee if I was

923
01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:42.679
in that room taping that I would
have been on the floor laughing. But

924
01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:44.920
you can't do that. Though it
wasn't funny at the time. No,

925
01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:47.719
what well now it is, that's
hilarious. Let's continue with more of the

926
01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:53.679
life and time, said Jewry Springer. I always called him Jewrey Jewrey segment.

927
01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:55.880
Thank you very much, Yes,
sir shouy to have you back.

928
01:05:55.920 --> 01:05:58.719
Willie Sean Compton, thanks you.
By the way, I'm going to Israel

929
01:05:58.760 --> 01:06:05.119
and about a month Israel. I
think I think they were shooting each other

930
01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:11.760
again last week when you were out. I mean you might want to reconsider

931
01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:15.679
herb Risenfeld says, I'll be safe. What do you say, Herb?

932
01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:18.239
You better right? If HERB says
it's it's it's, it's a done deal,

933
01:06:18.280 --> 01:06:21.679
I'll be I'll be at the whaling
wall sticking a note in a crevice.

934
01:06:23.719 --> 01:06:27.960
Remember my comments about marriage and all
that means. That's pretty good and

935
01:06:28.079 --> 01:06:31.840
toxic femininities got to go second.
Thank you? Yes, sir fifty five.

936
01:06:31.880 --> 01:06:35.159
Home of Your Red's not playing today, but uh on the weekend in

937
01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:45.599
Oakland. Who day? Good luck
there on News Radio seven hundred. Did

938
01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:48.760
you know that if you miss any
part of our shows, you can catch

939
01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:53.920
the podcast of that show on the
iHeart Radio add Did you also know that

940
01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:57.559
John Quincy Adams at a pet alligator
he kept in the White House bathtub.

941
01:06:58.199 --> 01:07:01.480
That gives me an idea. Why
not listen to our podcast while Silkin and

942
01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:10.000
Silky Delight. Yeah, your gator
can listen to Billy Cutting in the Great

943
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:14.719
American for Joseph's Chevrolet Corraine having a
great meat a month going to be concluded

944
01:07:14.760 --> 01:07:18.280
on decem on Sunday, which will
be April the thirtieth. The Great Month

945
01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:24.639
of April is underway at Josephs Chevrolet. Never pay MSRP again not at Joseph

946
01:07:24.719 --> 01:07:30.000
Chevrolet up to six thousand dollars off
the Great Verses up to four thousand dollars

947
01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:34.119
off the Equinoxes. MSRP is torn
up es Powers the general manager as under

948
01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:39.119
orders from Joseph to get it done. Clean out the lot. Every car

949
01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:43.599
has gone through the end of business
on Sunday. Once again, Reese Powers

950
01:07:43.679 --> 01:07:47.679
is dealing. Do not pay MSRP. Pay thousands below right now at josephs

951
01:07:47.719 --> 01:07:54.280
Chevrolet and Corraine. Find new roads
at Joseph Chevallet and Corraine Joseph Chevrolet dot

952
01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:59.920
Com. This is for the men
who never settle, the ones who believe

953
01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:02.239
only quitters and a game in a
time, the type of guys who choose

954
01:08:02.239 --> 01:08:10.480
the bowl ahead of the bowl,
ahead of the bow My Billy Cunningham,

955
01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:14.840
the Great America coming up ball later
as Taniel Rourke. But until then,

956
01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:18.199
of course, Melissa Powers is the
Hammy County Prosecutor. There's a parole hearing

957
01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:23.079
coming up that you must be advised
to have to give participation in, otherwise

958
01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:27.319
a murder and a robber may come
out of jail prematurely. And Melissa Powers,

959
01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:30.359
County Prosecutor, Welcome again at the
Bill Cunningham Show and Melissa how are

960
01:08:30.399 --> 01:08:33.840
you? I'm doing great, though, how are you doing well? Today?

961
01:08:33.880 --> 01:08:36.359
We spent a lot of time on
Jerry Springer that you have had little

962
01:08:36.399 --> 01:08:41.760
or no connection with, but you're
like a lifelong Cincinnati and so what are

963
01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:45.039
your thoughts on the passing of Jerry
Springer. We're where we talking about the

964
01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:48.680
murder of David Pete and some others. Well, it's very sad to hear

965
01:08:48.720 --> 01:08:56.119
and learn that Jerry passed away.
He was such a staple to Cincinnatians.

966
01:08:56.159 --> 01:09:00.840
We all know many stories about Jerry
Springer. He was on the news,

967
01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:04.800
he was the mayor. Not too
long ago, there was a benefit for

968
01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:12.159
Mattie's House where they honored styles and
he was one of the guest speakers at

969
01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:15.640
the roast. He was a roaster
And so I just saw him about a

970
01:09:15.640 --> 01:09:19.920
month ago, and he had no
idea that how sick he was and that

971
01:09:20.039 --> 01:09:26.720
he had cancer that he was dealing
with. So here too young, Yeah,

972
01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:28.960
I mean the older you get,
the younger you're a pair. When

973
01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:32.920
I was last saw him about six
months ago, and uh talked about radio,

974
01:09:33.079 --> 01:09:36.680
talked about television, talked about the
future. It's some more plans.

975
01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:41.039
Wanted to do a podcast, and
I was going to be on his podcast,

976
01:09:41.079 --> 01:09:43.319
back and forth, left and right, and away we go. But

977
01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:48.000
he is, he's on the mountain
rushmore to me of entertainers out of Cincinnati.

978
01:09:48.119 --> 01:09:53.680
Whatever course of business he went into, he succeeded. Let's talk about

979
01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:57.720
a pearl hearing coming up and can
you tell the story of nineteen year old

980
01:09:57.800 --> 01:10:01.760
David Pete who was working in a
many club suburban Cincinnati. What happened to

981
01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:06.159
David Pete? Well, he had
just finished his first year of college at

982
01:10:06.199 --> 01:10:12.800
you see, and he was working
at the comedy club. And by the

983
01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:15.239
way, they loved him so much
there. He was a greet that they

984
01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:21.600
annually celebrate his life and his honor. He was an artist, he was

985
01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:28.279
a musician. He had a great
future. I met with the family a

986
01:10:28.279 --> 01:10:33.039
few days ago because I'm so concerned
about um, this David McGee potentially being

987
01:10:33.039 --> 01:10:38.760
released by the parole authority, and
I wanted to get to know more about

988
01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:45.960
their son and brother. And there
was so many wonderful things that they said

989
01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:48.239
about him, and how if you
were a stranger and you met him,

990
01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:53.439
you were immediately his friend, that
he had such a love of life,

991
01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:59.039
brought great joy to their family and
it was just a tragic, horrific murder.

992
01:10:59.239 --> 01:11:03.000
Back in August of two thousand and
didn't they come to pass Because David

993
01:11:03.079 --> 01:11:06.880
Pete simply wanted to go to Taco
Bell to get a late night snack.

994
01:11:08.039 --> 01:11:12.199
That's how it began. That's exactly
right. So he was out with friends.

995
01:11:12.960 --> 01:11:15.079
Here's the nineteen years old He's out
with friends and decided to go home

996
01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:18.640
early. His father was out of
town and his mother was home alone,

997
01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:23.760
so he was going to go home
early to be with her. And on

998
01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:27.760
his way home, he stopped at
Taco Bell and Clifton and that's where he

999
01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:34.560
crossed pass with these two very dangerous
colthearted killers McGee and Price. They approached

1000
01:11:34.680 --> 01:11:39.760
him. They had a plan.
They were going to get a ride from

1001
01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:47.680
someone, and unfortunately David was there
and I guess it, reluctantly agreed to

1002
01:11:47.680 --> 01:11:51.119
give them a ride. He initially
was telling them no, but they worked

1003
01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:57.359
on him enough that he agreed to
give them a ride. And shortly after

1004
01:11:57.399 --> 01:11:59.840
they're in the car, they pulled
a gun on him, ordered him to

1005
01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:02.239
off the car, and then forced
him into the trunk of his car.

1006
01:12:02.600 --> 01:12:05.439
Before he even got into trunk.
He gave him his wallet, all his

1007
01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:09.600
money, let him have his car. Begged for his life to let him

1008
01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:12.039
go, and they wouldn't let him
go. They pushed him, you know,

1009
01:12:12.079 --> 01:12:15.439
they'd forced him into the trunk of
the car. They then drove down

1010
01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:19.479
towards the north Side area, Uh, down a dark secluded road. UM

1011
01:12:19.800 --> 01:12:25.159
ordered him out of the car and
m forced him on his knees. And

1012
01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:29.119
again he's begging for his life,
he's crying, UM, and they ordered

1013
01:12:29.319 --> 01:12:31.640
him at gun point. He was
forced to his knees. They put the

1014
01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:35.079
gun to his head and shot him, uh four times, not just once,

1015
01:12:35.119 --> 01:12:40.560
four times. Um. And that
and that and they left um and

1016
01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:43.960
then burned the car up. I
guess two of you know tried to conceal

1017
01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:47.880
evidence set that on fire after they
stole the stereo equipment out of it.

1018
01:12:48.439 --> 01:12:53.880
Um. It was a horrific,
coldhearted kill. Uh. These are crime,

1019
01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:58.960
um McGhee, as well as price
prices serving a life sentence. David

1020
01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:01.880
McGhee was seventeen at the time.
And you can't you can only give an

1021
01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:06.239
eighteen to life with the possibility of
parole to someone that was a juvenile at

1022
01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:10.560
the time. If he was eighteen
years old. He would have gotten a

1023
01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:14.640
life sentence, but life doesn't mean
life right now in front of the parole

1024
01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:17.359
board. Um, he's in front
of the parole board. Back then,

1025
01:13:17.399 --> 01:13:23.680
when he admitted to and can gave
a full confession admitting admitting to the crime.

1026
01:13:24.279 --> 01:13:29.399
Um, the parole hearings were going
to occur every ten years. They

1027
01:13:29.399 --> 01:13:31.319
have to tell you after meeting with
the family, I mean, it was

1028
01:13:31.399 --> 01:13:36.359
if the when they were describing not
only their son, their brother, um

1029
01:13:36.600 --> 01:13:41.520
and what had happened and the effect
this has had on them, It's like

1030
01:13:41.560 --> 01:13:45.199
it was it was just happened.
It was like it was yesterday. The

1031
01:13:45.279 --> 01:13:50.960
emotions are in grief is so raw
and so um uh. They were reliving

1032
01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:56.479
it. And so every five years
now rather than ten the law has changed

1033
01:13:56.520 --> 01:13:59.520
to every five years. Every five
years, they got to go through this.

1034
01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:04.039
And we're concerned this parole board has
been releasing ninety percent of violent criminals.

1035
01:14:04.039 --> 01:14:09.479
The prosecutor's office here has been fighting
very hard on every single one of

1036
01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:16.279
them that the parole board is more
liberal, bent, more woke than we

1037
01:14:16.319 --> 01:14:20.439
want. And the fear is that
he could be released. So I'm asking

1038
01:14:20.479 --> 01:14:25.760
your listeners, and I appreciate you
letting me on. Is that I'm asking

1039
01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:30.439
for a call for action to go
to the Hamilton County Prosecutor's website. We

1040
01:14:30.600 --> 01:14:35.520
have a tab called Parole Watch and
all you and we need the community as

1041
01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:41.800
many people as possible to prevent this
man from being released into our community and

1042
01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:45.680
back into someone's neighborhood. I don't
believe that this person should ever be released.

1043
01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:48.800
Life should mean life. He got
eighteen to life. It should mean

1044
01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:56.439
life. This was a cold hearted
killer who had ice in his veins,

1045
01:14:56.800 --> 01:15:02.039
and I can't imagine after serving twenty
three years behind bars that he has reformed,

1046
01:15:02.399 --> 01:15:08.039
his heart has stoftened, that he
would not be a killer again or

1047
01:15:08.319 --> 01:15:12.239
hurt others again. If he's released. No one is safe, and the

1048
01:15:12.359 --> 01:15:17.439
family in particular does not feel safe. They are traumatized by this horrific event

1049
01:15:18.439 --> 01:15:23.840
and they do not feel safe if
this man is out walking in the same

1050
01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:29.119
city that they live. Well,
this murderer, David McGee is thirty nine

1051
01:15:29.199 --> 01:15:33.000
years old, not even turned forty
yet, and David Pete that he murdered

1052
01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:39.079
in cold blood kneeling away from the
scene, is dead. He's not lived

1053
01:15:39.119 --> 01:15:43.279
the next twenty three years of his
life, his family's gone through a living

1054
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:45.680
hell. And when I read this, they pulled out the pistol, ordered

1055
01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:51.159
David David back from the car gunpoint. They walked him and begged him not

1056
01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:56.199
to kill them. He began to
cry. He cried, and then they

1057
01:15:56.279 --> 01:15:59.640
put him on his knees and blew
his brains out. And that guy was

1058
01:15:59.680 --> 01:16:03.119
seven teen years old. And now
the last twenty three years, he's not

1059
01:16:03.159 --> 01:16:08.800
gotten softer, he's probably gotten harder. And it's amazing that life doesn't mean

1060
01:16:08.920 --> 01:16:12.399
life, not the parole board.
For it's one thing that this guy who

1061
01:16:12.479 --> 01:16:15.359
was now eighty nine years old and
it's six months to live, that's one

1062
01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:19.359
thing. Well, when you're thirty
nine, in good physical shape and you

1063
01:16:19.479 --> 01:16:24.760
murdered someone execution style, with which
I would suggest it was not the last,

1064
01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:29.199
not the first time he committed a
serious crime. That to get out

1065
01:16:29.239 --> 01:16:31.239
of jail and live next to other
people and the same crap will happen.

1066
01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:36.079
So Melissa, once again, Hamilton
County Prosecutor's Office. Look for the tab

1067
01:16:36.159 --> 01:16:42.600
that says parole watch and this defendi's
name is is that David McGee? Is

1068
01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:46.760
that correct? That's correct? And
you'll see his name he's up for parole.

1069
01:16:47.640 --> 01:16:51.760
We want that. We do believe
the pro board will listen to the

1070
01:16:51.840 --> 01:16:58.600
community as many letters as possible.
These letters, it's a real simple form

1071
01:16:58.640 --> 01:17:02.680
that you can use. It doesn't
take much effort, and you can It's

1072
01:17:02.760 --> 01:17:08.680
just a simple fill in the blank
type of thing, and you can include

1073
01:17:08.680 --> 01:17:12.039
a narrative or a message as to
why he should not be released. We're

1074
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:16.840
asking the community to do that,
not only for this family that is being

1075
01:17:16.960 --> 01:17:23.119
victimized over and over every time he's
up for parole, but also just for

1076
01:17:23.199 --> 01:17:27.720
everybody in the community to feel safe. We want to keep Hamilton County a

1077
01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:31.199
safe place to live, and this
person needs to stay behind bars. Do

1078
01:17:31.319 --> 01:17:35.279
you give advice to any man or
a woman that would find themselves in some

1079
01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:42.199
unpredicted horrible circumstance whether to go with
or not to go with? If you

1080
01:17:42.920 --> 01:17:45.720
damned if you do, damned if
you don't. But if a woman's in

1081
01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:50.520
a shopping center or maybe in a
mall and walking toward the car and someone

1082
01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:55.880
puts a gun upside of her head, what should she do? Well?

1083
01:17:56.399 --> 01:18:00.119
The advice that I've always been given
and what I've read about just for my

1084
01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:04.520
own personal safety, but also I've
learned over the thirty one years I've been

1085
01:18:04.840 --> 01:18:10.960
in the criminal justice system, it
is to fight. Do everything you can

1086
01:18:11.079 --> 01:18:15.520
to fight because mislikely your life will
be taken anyway, and the last thing

1087
01:18:15.560 --> 01:18:19.239
you do is ever getting the trunk
of a car, because at that point

1088
01:18:19.359 --> 01:18:25.640
you pretty much will not survive that
event. So my advice would be is

1089
01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:30.439
to fight. If you have any
measures of self defense, have that with

1090
01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:33.000
you. I think today's world is
a lot different than twenty three years ago.

1091
01:18:34.039 --> 01:18:36.479
You know, twenty three years ago, we were much more naive.

1092
01:18:36.920 --> 01:18:43.319
I think here David mislikely had no
idea. He was reluctant to give a

1093
01:18:43.439 --> 01:18:46.399
ride to strangers that thought he was
helping somebody, and that goes to the

1094
01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:51.239
type of person he was. Was
also young that and I'm guessing here as

1095
01:18:51.319 --> 01:18:56.880
avoiding somewhat of a confrontation since they
did not let it go. They kept

1096
01:18:56.920 --> 01:19:00.039
insisting they needed this ride, and
probably the easiest route was, well,

1097
01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:03.560
okay, what's the harm it is
just right down the street. But what

1098
01:19:03.680 --> 01:19:06.920
my advice would be is to fight, especially for a woman, is to

1099
01:19:06.960 --> 01:19:12.319
fight, fight, try to get
away as fast as you can, and

1100
01:19:13.119 --> 01:19:16.159
don't give up. Yell, scream
if you got oh yeah, don't forgot

1101
01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:20.640
about that scream Like, you know, it's nobody's business. Um, you

1102
01:19:20.680 --> 01:19:25.000
know, we're to the point where
you could lose your life or lose your

1103
01:19:25.079 --> 01:19:29.039
voice. I mean, but scream
to attract attention. That's another thing.

1104
01:19:29.439 --> 01:19:32.800
It's how it's useful. It's tough
and matter. You don't know how I

1105
01:19:32.800 --> 01:19:35.600
think many young people find themselves.
Yeah, you need to ride, hop

1106
01:19:35.600 --> 01:19:40.159
in the car. Hitchhikers. Hey, I'll pick up a hitchhiker. He

1107
01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:44.880
looks okay, she looks okay.
That's not the way I tell younger folks

1108
01:19:44.920 --> 01:19:48.119
around me. Don't pick up hitchhikers. Don't give money to the homeless because

1109
01:19:48.119 --> 01:19:51.840
they're going to use it for bad
purposes. Someone's begging for money, it's

1110
01:19:51.880 --> 01:19:56.600
some interstate highway. Don't give them
money, don't let him in, don't

1111
01:19:56.640 --> 01:20:00.159
open the window. And it's a
momentary passage and your good. But twenty

1112
01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:04.119
three years ago, we were a
more sane society than we are today.

1113
01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:11.319
And in twenty twenty three, I
can't imagine how many derelicts, mentally ill,

1114
01:20:11.920 --> 01:20:15.399
drug adduced individuals that need help are
out there looking for a way to

1115
01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:18.239
make a buck or to make some
money, and god knows, don't be

1116
01:20:18.279 --> 01:20:21.600
the next victim. But if it's
your time to go and you scream,

1117
01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:26.319
holler and shout, you do whatever, and you get hurt or killed by

1118
01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:30.079
that, at least you died.
Shall always say fighting. But to get

1119
01:20:30.119 --> 01:20:32.319
in a card, to let someone
in your car, to get in a

1120
01:20:32.359 --> 01:20:36.199
trunk, never ever, ever,
ever, ever do that, because by

1121
01:20:36.279 --> 01:20:40.840
doing so, you make your death
more likely. This does not blame David

1122
01:20:40.920 --> 01:20:45.479
McGee one bit. It was nineteen
years old and he was completely innocent.

1123
01:20:45.239 --> 01:20:49.720
The victim's name is David Peach.
The defendant's name is David McGee. So

1124
01:20:49.800 --> 01:20:53.640
you just switched up. But you're
absolutely right. And the other thing,

1125
01:20:53.680 --> 01:20:56.319
too, boll is like you know, you used to be able to if

1126
01:20:56.359 --> 01:20:59.840
there was you were upset, or
there was some kind of minor conflict,

1127
01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:02.239
could say something to people. Now
you can't even say something for fear that

1128
01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:05.439
you could get shot or road rage, And I mean you can't. You

1129
01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:10.479
just need to walk away from incidents
without trying to create one. But if

1130
01:21:10.479 --> 01:21:15.560
you're in a dangerous situation, such
as our young victim here found himself.

1131
01:21:15.279 --> 01:21:20.680
Today we know more and I think
today you know you've got a better chance

1132
01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:26.439
of surviving by fighting or attracting attention
or going in for help. I mean

1133
01:21:26.479 --> 01:21:30.199
anything any ways, fall down.
IM not going to pick up one hundred

1134
01:21:30.199 --> 01:21:34.319
and forty pound a woman very often. And the other thing about David McGee,

1135
01:21:34.399 --> 01:21:38.079
he's going to get out, he's
going to reoffend. One thing I

1136
01:21:38.159 --> 01:21:42.560
tell other people, Madam, prosecutor
is on a road rage type incident.

1137
01:21:42.960 --> 01:21:47.439
Somebody's angry. Don't flip the bird. Don't get involved in verbal back and

1138
01:21:47.479 --> 01:21:50.119
forth with someone. You don't know
what kind of animal is going to come

1139
01:21:50.119 --> 01:21:55.279
out of that car or that pickup
truck. Don't do that. Simply maintain

1140
01:21:55.319 --> 01:21:59.720
your focus, let it go.
Don't speed up to somebody, slow down

1141
01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:02.000
them go past you, and don't
give them a reason to shoot you.

1142
01:22:02.119 --> 01:22:06.399
Because people have been shot simply flipping
somebody the bird because they were cut off,

1143
01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:11.600
right right, It's a crazy world
out there, all right. Once

1144
01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:16.000
again, going hamlet County prosecutor and
look at the parole watch. Defender's name

1145
01:22:16.079 --> 01:22:21.680
is David McGee, mc capitol gee. Please contact the parole board to keep

1146
01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:25.920
them locked up. And Melissa Powers, once again, thank you for coming

1147
01:22:26.039 --> 01:22:29.119
on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank
you, Melissa. You're welcome, Thank

1148
01:22:29.159 --> 01:22:30.319
you Bill, have a great day. Thank you all. Let's continue.

1149
01:22:31.039 --> 01:22:35.760
And many times these events happen when
you're not cognizant. It's going to occur.

1150
01:22:36.279 --> 01:22:41.239
Things happen all of a sudden that
you had no idea, you'll find

1151
01:22:41.239 --> 01:22:45.399
yourself in a bad situation. So
if you can think in your own mind

1152
01:22:45.399 --> 01:22:50.039
ahead of time, I'm not going
to react anyway to a road rage incident.

1153
01:22:50.640 --> 01:22:55.399
If someone puts a gun upside your
head and orders you to get in

1154
01:22:55.479 --> 01:22:59.119
the car, or whatever it might
be, don't do it. If it's

1155
01:22:59.119 --> 01:23:01.840
going to happen, happen here,
fall down. In other words, if

1156
01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:05.560
you're standing up, sit down,
whatever it takes. Yell, stream,

1157
01:23:05.760 --> 01:23:11.039
holler, and shout. Do not
pick up any hitchhikers ever. Do not

1158
01:23:11.199 --> 01:23:17.600
open a window and hand someone supposedly
homeless some money in the interstate exit or

1159
01:23:17.760 --> 01:23:23.399
entry ramp. Don't do that because
that's dangerous. We live in a crazy

1160
01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:28.920
world with fentonel heroin, drug addiction
and all kind of perversions are out there.

1161
01:23:29.279 --> 01:23:31.920
This is a different place to live
than it was twenty three years ago

1162
01:23:32.479 --> 01:23:38.159
when David Pete was a young,
innocent, nineteen year old boy who thought,

1163
01:23:38.199 --> 01:23:41.520
well, I'll give Somebody give these
guys a ride who need a ride.

1164
01:23:41.600 --> 01:23:44.800
No, don't do that, say
no, whatever's gonna happen. It's

1165
01:23:44.800 --> 01:23:46.479
gonna happen, but it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen here. It's not

1166
01:23:46.520 --> 01:23:51.359
gonna happen in some deserted highway.
Not going to occur. Let's continue.

1167
01:23:51.399 --> 01:24:00.600
Bill Cunningham seven hundred ww. No, that's amazing. The digest the system

1168
01:24:00.640 --> 01:24:03.840
of a sloth is so slow it
takes days to digest the leaves it eats.

1169
01:24:03.960 --> 01:24:09.600
The sloth's gout produces methane, but
that methane is absorbed into the blood,

1170
01:24:09.920 --> 01:24:14.039
which is why you can never blame
an SBD on a sloth. No,

1171
01:24:14.399 --> 01:24:19.520
that's speaking of amazing. Check out
Eddie and Rocky. They have the

1172
01:24:19.680 --> 01:24:27.319
fun times you're looking for after a
long day. No, that's Eddie and

1173
01:24:27.399 --> 01:24:31.399
rock this afternoon at three seven hundred
WLW. Jen is a springer. We're

1174
01:24:31.439 --> 01:24:36.279
in an alternative plan for paying for
mass transit. How about slot machines on

1175
01:24:36.399 --> 01:24:44.640
all the buses. Think of the
crowds our buses will attract. Hello,

1176
01:24:45.159 --> 01:24:54.520
Hello, quiet, and I'm I'm
broadcasting a celebration of life segment. I'm

1177
01:24:54.600 --> 01:24:59.600
Jerry Springer seventy nine years old,
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1178
01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:01.760
the Mountain rush more of entertainers out
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1179
01:25:02.159 --> 01:25:06.000
and died at the age of seventy
nine earlier today or late last night,

1180
01:25:06.079 --> 01:25:11.319
and doing a lot of programming on
January. I got Tanya O'Rourke coming up

1181
01:25:11.319 --> 01:25:15.800
in about seven or eight minutes to
talk about her internship at channel five or

1182
01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:20.000
five stands for news. Can anybody
get a horde of Norma yet? Normer

1183
01:25:20.079 --> 01:25:24.760
has been spoken to? Oh?
Okay, so we'll see what happens.

1184
01:25:24.840 --> 01:25:28.880
Okay took him from last by Ken
Brew, the first Ken Bruise, a

1185
01:25:28.880 --> 01:25:30.720
living legend. Oh, no doubt
about that. He's got a beer named

1186
01:25:30.720 --> 01:25:38.560
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01:25:38.720 --> 01:25:43.640
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1191
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1192
01:26:03.960 --> 01:26:08.960
to call Dennis Jansen. You have
to call George Vogel. I gotta call

1193
01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:14.640
everybody. You certainly do call him
now. I'll take over the Bengals update.

1194
01:26:14.680 --> 01:26:18.399
The NFL Draft begins tonight with Round
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1195
01:26:18.439 --> 01:26:23.800
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1196
01:26:23.840 --> 01:26:28.720
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1197
01:26:29.239 --> 01:26:35.079
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and Emory Federal Credit Union. Right
here on seven hundred W BALLW The Carolina

1199
01:26:40.920 --> 01:26:46.159
Panthers are on the clock right now. Say how about the US Senate preaching

1200
01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:51.439
to the United States Supreme Court about
ethics and morals and values? Are you

1201
01:26:51.560 --> 01:26:56.319
kidding me? Am? I missing
something here? They're all over Clarence Thomas

1202
01:26:56.399 --> 01:27:00.600
right. Oh, why because he's
a conservative? I mean they can do.

1203
01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:02.399
I mean, you don't think those
guys took You don't think the sen

1204
01:27:02.800 --> 01:27:05.199
you don't think they took trips?
Yeah, the Senate, Yeah, they're

1205
01:27:05.279 --> 01:27:09.560
ripping on him for taking a trip
or two. The Democrats in the Senate

1206
01:27:09.560 --> 01:27:12.279
are complaining about ethics? How many? How many? How many trips?

1207
01:27:12.359 --> 01:27:15.079
Is Shermer all of them? Uh? Pelosi and all the rest of them,

1208
01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:17.800
all of them. Yeah, but
it's tiny and all the rest of

1209
01:27:17.840 --> 01:27:23.119
them. How many they take for
free? Andy Mack Reds update. The

1210
01:27:23.119 --> 01:27:27.520
Reds have the day off today.
They are in out West. They'll kick

1211
01:27:27.560 --> 01:27:30.000
off a road trip tomorrow night with
the first of three against the A's in

1212
01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:34.520
Oakland. The action right here on
seven hundred W BLLW. They are the

1213
01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:40.319
Oakland A's are nine and twenty nine
season. What are the Reds? Haven't

1214
01:27:40.319 --> 01:27:43.279
they won ten to ten and fifteen? Pretty good? See you leave the

1215
01:27:43.399 --> 01:27:47.000
whole town's batty about Cincinnati? What
a team? A team? What a

1216
01:27:47.079 --> 01:27:51.359
team? Is he coming back?
You think that about this? I heard.

1217
01:27:51.479 --> 01:27:54.640
I don't want to say it.
I think he'll be back. Maybe

1218
01:27:54.720 --> 01:27:58.119
you think he'll be back after the
West Coast swing. I've heard rumors.

1219
01:27:58.279 --> 01:28:00.720
Yeah, I'm not saying what the
rumors are, Okay, but I've heard

1220
01:28:01.079 --> 01:28:05.680
rumors. Roster moves today by the
Reds. Picture. Graham Ashcraft is on

1221
01:28:05.720 --> 01:28:11.479
the bereefit list. He lost his
grandmother on Monday. Is Nick Senzel disabled?

1222
01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:15.640
No heart? His leg in the
home run trot Noe recalled from Triple

1223
01:28:15.680 --> 01:28:20.760
A Louisville is right hander Casey Legomena
and also placed on the injured list as

1224
01:28:20.800 --> 01:28:28.000
infielder. Outfielder Big Will Myers not
been hitting, but Nick Senzel is okay.

1225
01:28:28.199 --> 01:28:30.159
You sure he didn't hurt him?
Yes, no, I saw him

1226
01:28:30.239 --> 01:28:35.199
yesterday after the game. Very happy
Willie. And he's going. He's went

1227
01:28:35.279 --> 01:28:39.600
three for four the other night.
See you leave town, they catch fire.

1228
01:28:39.840 --> 01:28:43.760
That's my point. How about if
you're an Oakland sports fans, Raiders

1229
01:28:44.520 --> 01:28:48.760
Golden State Warriors. Now next up
the A's. Well, the Raiders and

1230
01:28:48.840 --> 01:28:53.800
A's are going to Las Vegas.
I guess the Golden State to State.

1231
01:28:53.880 --> 01:28:59.079
Let's go. I mean there's nothing
in Oakland. Nothing. The A's began

1232
01:28:59.159 --> 01:29:03.880
in Philadelphia. You then yep,
Kansas City? Yeah, now Oakland,

1233
01:29:04.199 --> 01:29:11.279
Yeah, soon Las Vegas. Viva
Las Vegas. I don't know what to

1234
01:29:11.279 --> 01:29:15.039
tell you, but I mean,
people talk about the Rench franchise moving.

1235
01:29:15.840 --> 01:29:18.439
No, I'm not gonna move.
Ain't gonna happen. No, they're moving.

1236
01:29:18.520 --> 01:29:25.279
John Barrett, Lender Farmer, mister
Wiler, Reese powers you me,

1237
01:29:25.680 --> 01:29:30.159
Tom Gregory, P and G.
R. Kroger sent toss. Rob Sanders

1238
01:29:30.439 --> 01:29:33.920
never allow it? And what about
Justice Joe here to get involved? Two?

1239
01:29:33.960 --> 01:29:38.439
Shouldn't he? Or or is he? Uh? Is he ineligible?

1240
01:29:38.560 --> 01:29:42.479
He's too he's too big now,
Okay, the way it is when you

1241
01:29:42.520 --> 01:29:45.359
go to the top. Joe Deeters
has forgotten us. He doesn't talk to

1242
01:29:45.399 --> 01:29:48.920
me. We don't call each other
anymore. Wow, haven't talked to him

1243
01:29:49.079 --> 01:29:51.840
call the show either, does he? No, haven't talked to him since

1244
01:29:51.840 --> 01:29:57.800
he talked more to the Chief Justice, mister Kennedy than Justice Joe. He's

1245
01:29:57.840 --> 01:30:00.199
gone big time on me. It
happens. It happens, believe you know.

1246
01:30:00.239 --> 01:30:02.520
We're just a little happen. We're
just the little people here and they

1247
01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:05.960
just throw us in to the to
the side of the road possible. And

1248
01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:12.079
look what happened. Yep, forgot
us. Look at Collinsworth who Yeah,

1249
01:30:12.119 --> 01:30:15.520
he took our call for time.
Furman's the same way. What about Trumpy?

1250
01:30:15.640 --> 01:30:17.800
I think collins wor take our call? I don't know, it's fine.

1251
01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:20.560
Was he doing quarter to three on
an afternoon? Like this? Is

1252
01:30:20.720 --> 01:30:24.600
any gonna do with the draft?
I don't know. Yeah, I mean

1253
01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:28.880
it's probably down there right now.
Taking the pick all right here, goes.

1254
01:30:29.720 --> 01:30:32.920
Good luck on this one. I
say, he answers, I say

1255
01:30:32.960 --> 01:30:42.600
he wonked. It's got more sense. I don't know. I told you

1256
01:30:43.840 --> 01:30:49.239
Sunday looking good. Well, I
was right. I win the prize.

1257
01:30:49.560 --> 01:30:53.359
I win the prize. I said
he's too big to pick up. And

1258
01:30:53.359 --> 01:30:57.840
I'll never pick up. Who they
gonna pick there? Chris, who they

1259
01:30:57.840 --> 01:31:01.199
gonna pick? Day? Well?
Who are the bengu What about Michael Mayor?

1260
01:31:01.199 --> 01:31:03.520
Who are the Bengal? Was gonna
pick? What is that? Chris

1261
01:31:03.520 --> 01:31:09.279
collins Worth saying, Yeah, that's
that's what I've got. I've got Michael

1262
01:31:09.319 --> 01:31:12.720
Mayor. I you know the Bengals, Yes, yeah, with the Ohio

1263
01:31:12.840 --> 01:31:15.880
State kids or the home grown kids, because they want to stay. You

1264
01:31:15.920 --> 01:31:19.199
know, you get the free agent
and maybe free agency, maybe you get

1265
01:31:19.239 --> 01:31:25.119
a little more cash somewhere love and
and you know you got brother stay in

1266
01:31:25.159 --> 01:31:30.079
Cincinnati. So he fits. He's
what they need. I think. I

1267
01:31:30.079 --> 01:31:32.119
think that's who if he's there,
I'm not sure he'll do that. Well.

1268
01:31:32.119 --> 01:31:35.760
When I think of you, I
think a Jerry Springer, Jerry Springer

1269
01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:39.960
and Chris collins Worth. What are
your thoughts on the on the passing of

1270
01:31:40.039 --> 01:31:44.680
Jerry Springer. First of all,
Jerry was a good friend. And I

1271
01:31:44.800 --> 01:31:49.560
know a lot of people have various
opinions and whatever, but um, I

1272
01:31:49.800 --> 01:31:55.840
did the the news one night.
I was built in in the sports department

1273
01:31:55.880 --> 01:32:00.279
over there, and to give you
an idea of the kind of guy area.

1274
01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:03.000
So anyway, invites me out to
dinner and he's doing his you know,

1275
01:32:03.359 --> 01:32:10.159
nightly editorial and he's all he has
is like a yellow pad and a

1276
01:32:10.199 --> 01:32:15.600
pen, and he's sitting there while
we're having a conversation and he writes out

1277
01:32:15.720 --> 01:32:20.640
this beautiful essay that he's going to
read on the air while he's talking to

1278
01:32:20.680 --> 01:32:27.479
me about football, talking about wow. And but so then we go back

1279
01:32:27.520 --> 01:32:30.439
in and so I'm like blown away. You know, sometimes you just meet

1280
01:32:30.479 --> 01:32:32.840
somebody to just go, God,
how do you do that? And like

1281
01:32:32.920 --> 01:32:35.600
the first time I ember met sec
you know what I mean, you do

1282
01:32:35.680 --> 01:32:40.439
that? Yeah, how'd you do
that? And so we go back in

1283
01:32:41.239 --> 01:32:44.680
and I'm doing eleven o'clock news and
so they, you know, they hand

1284
01:32:44.680 --> 01:32:47.720
me the piece of paper and I'm
supposed to read it. But as you

1285
01:32:47.840 --> 01:32:50.760
read the stories, you're supposed to
flip along with a piece of paper.

1286
01:32:50.800 --> 01:32:56.399
In the case something happens to the
telepropt. So Jerry comes over and he

1287
01:32:56.399 --> 01:33:00.520
gives me this big introduction and they're
all smiling on the day, like not

1288
01:33:00.720 --> 01:33:06.520
like like nice to see you and
welcome kind of smile. Something's up,

1289
01:33:06.560 --> 01:33:12.560
but I was too petrified to even
get it. So I'm sitting there and

1290
01:33:12.600 --> 01:33:15.079
they go again. Jery goes,
hey, welcome in from Cincinnati Bengals.

1291
01:33:15.119 --> 01:33:18.520
You know, twenty four year old
Chris Collinsworth, and he's gonna do the

1292
01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:21.880
sports tonight. You know, hey, Chris, great having you here.

1293
01:33:23.039 --> 01:33:28.000
Take it away, right. Yeah. So I'm sitting there and I turned

1294
01:33:28.840 --> 01:33:35.640
to start reading and the teleprompter and
there's nothing there. It's a blake screen.

1295
01:33:36.279 --> 01:33:41.439
So now I can begin to feel
the first beat to sweat on my

1296
01:33:41.479 --> 01:33:46.640
bod dropping down the side of my
face, and I'm looking over at you,

1297
01:33:47.119 --> 01:33:55.039
son of So now I'm but I
remember the first story. I'm there

1298
01:33:55.039 --> 01:33:59.239
are two stories. One was the
Indianapolis five hundred yeah, the other one

1299
01:33:59.479 --> 01:34:04.239
was was the Rets. And so
I go and I but I kind of

1300
01:34:04.279 --> 01:34:09.000
got the stories mixed up, and
I said to him about tonight under the

1301
01:34:09.079 --> 01:34:13.119
lights the Indianapolis five hundred. No, no, no, that's not that's

1302
01:34:13.119 --> 01:34:17.199
not it at all. I always
the worst sportscast in there, and they

1303
01:34:17.239 --> 01:34:23.680
are howling, pat Berries, they're
crying, They're all going crazy for this

1304
01:34:23.840 --> 01:34:27.680
thing. I know, you guys
are just not right. You are just

1305
01:34:28.199 --> 01:34:31.439
but incredibly talented, you know.
I love Jerry had a great sense of

1306
01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:34.920
humor. I just saw him,
Holly, and I just saw him.

1307
01:34:34.920 --> 01:34:40.560
A couple of maybe a couple of
weeks ago. We were downtown having breakfast

1308
01:34:40.680 --> 01:34:44.520
and we were sitting there and we
were across away and Jerry was working hard

1309
01:34:44.600 --> 01:34:45.920
on something. I don't know what
he was doing, and so they're sitting

1310
01:34:45.920 --> 01:34:48.159
at a table. I was like, I'm not gonna disturb him, and

1311
01:34:48.479 --> 01:34:51.720
so we bought him breakfast, and
you know, and then you know,

1312
01:34:51.800 --> 01:34:56.399
it's whenever the waitress came over and
he was like, oh man, it's

1313
01:34:56.439 --> 01:34:58.479
so nice. He came over and
said hi, and we're like, what

1314
01:34:58.520 --> 01:35:00.359
are you doing in town? And
you know, he said, you know,

1315
01:35:00.359 --> 01:35:04.039
I had an appointment I had to
go to. But apparently he was.

1316
01:35:04.159 --> 01:35:09.039
He was sick even then, and
nobody really knew it. And it

1317
01:35:09.199 --> 01:35:14.760
just thinks, I mean, maybe
outside of Cincinnati, whatever his reputation is,

1318
01:35:14.840 --> 01:35:18.359
but but in Cincinnati he's just he
loved Cincinnati. You know, he

1319
01:35:18.520 --> 01:35:24.000
made mistakes. We all made mistakes, but he's just he was a guy

1320
01:35:24.079 --> 01:35:28.760
that was really special to me.
Uh and I'm gonna miss him. Holly

1321
01:35:28.800 --> 01:35:31.279
called me when she heard the news, and she goes, I just kind

1322
01:35:31.279 --> 01:35:35.079
of needed to talk to somebody that
they knew him and cared about him,

1323
01:35:35.079 --> 01:35:39.239
and you know, she goes,
it just it hurts, you know,

1324
01:35:39.319 --> 01:35:43.239
and it does because he is a
special guy in Cincinnati. What would have

1325
01:35:43.279 --> 01:35:46.920
happened if someone had the tape of
you on Channel five doing sports and said,

1326
01:35:46.960 --> 01:35:51.720
this is the main sports analyst on
NBC. What you has said?

1327
01:35:53.039 --> 01:35:55.520
That's not the same guy. That's
something wrong about now. I don't know

1328
01:35:55.560 --> 01:35:58.640
what. I don't want to.
I would have been working as an intern

1329
01:35:58.680 --> 01:36:01.600
for SICK. That's that would have
been the highest I had ever gone.

1330
01:36:01.600 --> 01:36:05.760
If that tape got out, that's
absolutely the intern for see. In turn

1331
01:36:05.840 --> 01:36:09.600
for see, I would have been
honored. We would have had fun,

1332
01:36:09.840 --> 01:36:13.039
right and we had a good time. Amen. I've been out running around,

1333
01:36:13.560 --> 01:36:15.680
you know, say do you want
do you want cream? Sugar?

1334
01:36:15.800 --> 01:36:18.359
Whatever you need? Okay, Chris, whatever you say? You say,

1335
01:36:18.439 --> 01:36:24.800
Well, what is it about Cincinnati
that has so many national characters who begin

1336
01:36:24.960 --> 01:36:28.840
here and one is still live here. Whether I had a list that was

1337
01:36:28.880 --> 01:36:33.079
like thirty long at one point of
individuals such as yourself and Boomer and Jerry

1338
01:36:33.439 --> 01:36:39.880
who kind of came to Cincinnati from
elsewhere and like never left or always had

1339
01:36:39.880 --> 01:36:43.439
a connection. What is it?
What is it about Fort Thomas or Cincinnati.

1340
01:36:45.399 --> 01:36:49.720
I think even when they're mad at
you, they still treat you like

1341
01:36:49.880 --> 01:36:53.640
family, you know what I mean. It's like, so, okay,

1342
01:36:53.680 --> 01:36:57.319
there are people that are convinced I
hate the Bengals because I don't, you

1343
01:36:57.359 --> 01:37:00.319
know, yell who day after every
touchdown and when I'm on the air and

1344
01:37:00.359 --> 01:37:04.079
all that. But they still,
you know, they'll tell you why they're

1345
01:37:04.079 --> 01:37:10.159
mad at something, but they don't
always treat you like part of the family.

1346
01:37:10.600 --> 01:37:13.840
And even though I wasn't I was
born in Dane, Ohio, but

1347
01:37:14.119 --> 01:37:16.199
even though I didn't grow up here, and I think Pete was like that.

1348
01:37:16.319 --> 01:37:20.199
I just saw Johnny the other night. You know, you feel an

1349
01:37:20.239 --> 01:37:26.119
attachment to this town and it's just
big enough that you're in a big city

1350
01:37:26.399 --> 01:37:31.399
and it's just small enough that it's
intimate, and do you have great relationships

1351
01:37:31.840 --> 01:37:36.359
and like a fraternity or a sorority, maybe you know how you're always in

1352
01:37:36.399 --> 01:37:41.039
the club and the club is bigger
than what you ever knew. Like when

1353
01:37:41.039 --> 01:37:45.000
I go on the road, everybody
has a story of oh, I was

1354
01:37:45.079 --> 01:37:48.119
born in Cincinnati, or I lived
there, my grandmother lived there. You

1355
01:37:48.159 --> 01:37:53.840
know. It's like somehow everything relates
back to Cincinnati, Ohio, which is

1356
01:37:54.039 --> 01:37:57.840
just fantastic, you know, and
everybody you know, do you know Bill

1357
01:37:57.920 --> 01:38:00.680
Cunningham, Yeah, I know Bill
cutting Yeah, I know you know.

1358
01:38:00.800 --> 01:38:04.159
So it's all right, Chris.
I know you're busy, and I just

1359
01:38:04.199 --> 01:38:09.359
want to get your thoughts on Jerry
Springer on the draft and it's it's sad,

1360
01:38:09.399 --> 01:38:13.119
but when a seventy nine year old
man dies, it's not like totally

1361
01:38:13.239 --> 01:38:16.920
unexpected. But I got a call
about nine o'clock in the morning from someone

1362
01:38:16.960 --> 01:38:21.920
connected to the Springer TV show because
he also worked on my five year run

1363
01:38:23.600 --> 01:38:27.520
as a poor reflection of Jerry,
and I heard about I was, oh,

1364
01:38:27.560 --> 01:38:30.399
I'm so sorry because I heard about
him at this at the roast for

1365
01:38:30.520 --> 01:38:34.119
Simon Leees and he didn't look good. So I made some inquiries. I

1366
01:38:34.119 --> 01:38:39.399
know he was fighting a bad cancer
and at some point he he lost.

1367
01:38:39.439 --> 01:38:43.439
But Chris, be strong, thank
you, don't leave Fort Thomas, don't

1368
01:38:43.520 --> 01:38:46.239
leave Cincinnati and always take a call
from the little people like SEC and I

1369
01:38:46.600 --> 01:38:50.920
the major life possible. I'll still
be working as sex in turns there and

1370
01:38:51.000 --> 01:38:55.720
I know that day. Chris collins
Worth year a grand American. Give my

1371
01:38:55.760 --> 01:39:00.640
best to Holly see Chris, thank
you well. I owe you a hot

1372
01:39:00.640 --> 01:39:02.560
fund Sunday. That's all I can
say. I'll talk to Ron Shrews to

1373
01:39:02.560 --> 01:39:05.600
get it delivered. Okay. Is
that it in sports? That is it?

1374
01:39:05.720 --> 01:39:11.199
In sports? We want to apologize
briefly to Tanya o' rourke. Tomorrow,

1375
01:39:11.239 --> 01:39:14.199
all run it. We'll talk tomorrow
and see what's happening tomorrow. Not

1376
01:39:14.840 --> 01:39:17.479
so the segment. Just tell the
American people to coverage here for the draft.

1377
01:39:17.680 --> 01:39:20.880
The rest of today. Let's see, Willie, we got best Bengals

1378
01:39:20.920 --> 01:39:25.840
coverage. Tonight, Lance and Rocky
six oh five to nine live at the

1379
01:39:25.920 --> 01:39:32.239
Holy Grail with LG. Beeter Peterbilt
NFL Draft Show presented by Encore Technologies,

1380
01:39:32.279 --> 01:39:36.800
Five Iron Golf and Emory Federal Credit
Union, and then nine to midnight,

1381
01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:43.640
Mo and Tony Pike will be downtown
in late night action at the Holy Grail.

1382
01:39:43.960 --> 01:39:46.960
As they say, the Bengals pick
twenty eighth barring a tree. They

1383
01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:54.199
will. They say that it might
be after eleven o'clock tonight, maybe around

1384
01:39:54.199 --> 01:39:58.079
eleven thirty that they pick. Well, we're gonna cover it all depends extremely

1385
01:39:58.119 --> 01:40:03.119
well correct, correct sided. The
cutman and Marty Brennaman may both come back.

1386
01:40:03.640 --> 01:40:08.560
Would that be something that's for sure? So you got the cutman on

1387
01:40:08.640 --> 01:40:13.239
Bengals coverage and Marty b back in
the booth, then get a better net

1388
01:40:13.279 --> 01:40:17.199
on a Thursday? Does it?
Tucker Carlson, Don Lemon, you're gonna

1389
01:40:17.239 --> 01:40:23.800
move into that spot? Can't say, although I did put a picture of

1390
01:40:24.159 --> 01:40:30.520
Jerry Hannity and I on an Angeley
Earhart on my Twitter account. If you

1391
01:40:30.560 --> 01:40:35.520
go to Twitter okay, you will
find a classic photo of the good old

1392
01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:41.800
days in New York City where the
girls were so pretty. Segment Get me

1393
01:40:41.840 --> 01:40:44.760
out of the Stewarte Report? Will
you an utter of the NFL draft?

1394
01:40:44.760 --> 01:40:48.199
Who are the Bengals picking Round one
into Chris Collinsworth the best? We leave

1395
01:40:48.239 --> 01:40:54.680
you with the immortal words of the
STU Tripport, Take care of yourself,

1396
01:40:54.960 --> 01:41:14.319
find each other seven WLW. My
doctor told me I should start swimming laughs

1397
01:41:14.319 --> 01:41:18.560
for exercise, but I found out
he got his medical degree in Granada wherever

1398
01:41:18.720 --> 01:41:23.800
that is. So instead I head
to the pool and listened to Scott Sloan

1399
01:41:23.880 --> 01:41:27.199
show. Full side listening is perfect
for my show. Work on your tan

1400
01:41:27.319 --> 01:41:30.439
while we take on the important stuff
and have a little fun doing it.

1401
01:41:30.439 --> 01:41:33.319
He's pretty funny and very smart.
You know. I'm that he knows where

1402
01:41:33.319 --> 01:41:38.960
Granada is. It's down there by
those other countries. Check out Sloany tomorrow

1403
01:41:38.960 --> 01:41:43.840
morning and nine on seven hundred WLW. It's time for what are Sandar Fords?

1404
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