WEBVTT 1 00:00:14.919 --> 00:00:17.800 All right, everybody. Tonight's episode of Wrestle Magic, I will be giving 2 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:22.320 an interview to mister Marcus buff Bag Well, sir, would you like to 3 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:26.120 make your presence known to the audience. Hey, this is Buff and I 4 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:30.679 am the stuff. Awesome. Man, I love hearing that promo. It's 5 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:35.000 always been a nice little intro for you. Thank you. So how you 6 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:37.560 doing today? Man? How's a life drain you? Where you're at? 7 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:43.600 Bud did really really well? You know, I'm twenty I'm twenty two months 8 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:48.640 sober, and I you know, I never really have done I've never been, 9 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:54.039 you know, actively sober ever in my entire life. From a very 10 00:00:54.119 --> 00:01:00.880 young age, I learned, I learned to fix it. I had a 11 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:06.200 sleep at ye at a very young age, but there wasn't a word called 12 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:10.719 sleep atna yet. So I was just tired and didn't know why. So 13 00:01:10.760 --> 00:01:15.519 I learned to fix it. And me fixing it was with drugs. I 14 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:19.040 would get I would use drugs to wake up. And then later on in 15 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:23.359 life, I fixed the sleep bat with medical stuff. But then I was 16 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:27.480 addicted to drugs, so you know, it was it was a battle that 17 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:32.079 I stayed sedated for about twenty years. But I am now a twenty two 18 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:37.439 months sober and I honest to God, and I think people when they hear 19 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:41.120 this, they thing, you know. I hear that all the time. 20 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:44.480 But I don't see how that's true. But I mean, my life is 21 00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:49.400 really it's a hundred one hundred times better. I've never been more clear on 22 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:57.280 everything, more positive with everything that happens. It's just one good thing out 23 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:00.359 here in another. I mean I have bad days like like everybody does, 24 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:06.799 but I mean the overall picture is just much clearer and it's just a better 25 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:10.879 way of life doing it sober. Hey, man, I'm proud of you 26 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:15.280 for getting sober. That is an incredible accomplishment. Keep it going, man, 27 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:19.360 absolutely incredible. I personally, Uh, I don't drink or anything as 28 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:21.680 well. So hey, I hear you. It's a good life to just 29 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:24.879 be able to feel everything and all that just that's a great word, to 30 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:30.840 be able to feel. Uh. Anytime I started to feel something, I 31 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:32.800 fixed it. Where I felt, I felt what I wanted to feel. 32 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:36.960 I mean, I had a peel for everything. It was a pill to 33 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:38.800 go to bed, a pill to wake up, a peal to go train, 34 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:43.719 a pill after I trained. It was it was just crazy. It 35 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:47.039 was just pil pill pill pill, and it was and to have the freedom 36 00:02:47.159 --> 00:02:53.800 from that is really spectacular. Out his love life, absolutely, man, 37 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:55.199 it's nice to see that you have no more bounds like that. It's awesome 38 00:02:55.800 --> 00:03:00.439 maybe or something, but hey, nothing wrong with that, all right, 39 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:05.120 let's get straight into it. Mcaulleague King Scully. He was the one who 40 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:07.520 really helped arrange us, so shout out to him. But also he wanted 41 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:12.879 to ask where exactly did you feel you wanted to become a wrestler. Where 42 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:15.159 did it all start for you? Man? Where it all started for me? 43 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:22.439 Really, it wasn't up to me. A thing that I'll say before 44 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:29.360 I explain it is I believe in life and I have yet to be proven 45 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:36.879 wrong about this. I really believe that life chooses you if you really are 46 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:43.960 doing something that is lucrative and you love doing it. I've yet to be 47 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:49.479 proved wrong that it chose you. And it may take a few minutes you 48 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:52.599 had to say, oh no, I picked this, but by the time 49 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:59.719 you figure it out it was your mother's brother's uncle's friend that maybe mentioned something 50 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:03.000 about out what you're doing that led you to do what you do. I 51 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:11.159 believe life picks you, and well me believing that is because life picked me. 52 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:17.360 Wrestling picked me. I was twenty one years old. Well I was 53 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:21.519 eighteen years old, and I graduated high school. And at the same year 54 00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:26.800 I graduated, my parents went broke. I was a very successful, rich, 55 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:31.399 very wealthy family growing up, and it all ended in nineteen eighty eight, 56 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:34.439 which is the year I graduated in high school. So my father come 57 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:38.839 to us and said, look, you got a you know, three boys. 58 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:41.240 I was the baby. He said, look, you guys got to 59 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:44.639 find something to do with life, because I'm done. It's over. We're 60 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:46.519 out of money, don't know what to do. So I got it. 61 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:50.759 I wanted to do something with sports, but I had a horrible grade point 62 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:56.560 average because we were going to work for the family's lumberyard, and so I 63 00:04:56.560 --> 00:05:00.720 had at one point eight grade point average. I did what it took basically 64 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:04.240 get through school because I had a million dollar lumber yard waiting on me, 65 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:10.000 and so when they all went down, those grades really mattered, and I 66 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:15.480 didn't have them. So I wanted to do sports training or some kind of 67 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:20.079 sports medicine. And with a horrible grade point average, the first step to 68 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:26.560 sports medicine was massage therapy. I found a way that I could have. 69 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:30.240 I could go become a massage therapist. I could be making an income and 70 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:35.480 it would be a first step into some kind of sports. Massage, sports 71 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:40.319 training, something associated with being an athlete is what I wanted to do. 72 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:46.560 And so that was a ten month course. So I graduated the Massage Atlantama 73 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:51.360 School of Massage and like probably nineteen ninety I was twenty years old, and 74 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:58.040 then started trying to be a massage therapist. As I turned twenty one September 75 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:01.519 of nineteen well than that, so I do that. So you got to 76 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:08.759 figure from the time I graduated was eighteen years old, and I'm a January 77 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:13.000 baby, and you graduate, you know, around June July, so you're 78 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:18.319 talking about eighteen and a half years old. And then when I signed with 79 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:25.839 WCW, I was twenty one September of twenty one years old. So you're 80 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:31.720 talking about three years from the day I graduated high school to the day I 81 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:38.079 signed the WCW. That's unheard of, brother, There's so much luck involved 82 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:41.639 right there, it's not even funny. But you've heard the path. So 83 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:46.360 graduate high school, ten months massage therapy school and at and from that, 84 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:50.040 from there to there, from there to w CW was trying to become a 85 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:54.959 massage therapist, very good, a very good massage therapist. I got a 86 00:06:55.040 --> 00:07:00.600 job with a company called Corporate Sports, and I found out a devastating blow 87 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:10.600 was women were insecure to get a massage from an attractive mail. I thought 88 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:14.639 that me being in shape and me being, you know, having a good 89 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:18.360 personality, I thought that would be a plus with women, and it was. 90 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:25.399 It was absolutely bad for the women thing because they were very insecure with 91 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:28.199 you know, getting their clothes off to get massaged. I mean I would 92 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:30.560 ask them, like, why don't you be a massage you They would say, 93 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:34.079 I may have some fat on my back, or I may have a 94 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:38.399 bump on my back. My husband would kill me. I ord all these 95 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:45.240 different things while trying to fix me. Spending ten thousand dollars to be a 96 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:50.879 massage therapist and ten months of my life to become a massage therapist. The 97 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:55.560 last thing I wanted to do was do something else. But it was really 98 00:07:56.000 --> 00:08:00.839 not working out because you got to have in any industry, you got to 99 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:05.160 have men and women to be successful in it, because you're cutting the population 100 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:11.519 in half. So during that transformation of what I was trying to do, 101 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:16.160 I was very depressed about it. And I was at my pool one day 102 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:20.439 where I lived in a place called Popular Place Apartments in Kennesaw, Georgia, 103 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:26.240 and Missy Hyatt was at the pool and this is where my saying and my 104 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:30.560 belief it picked me. She walks up to me and it's like, hey, 105 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:33.200 you know you should be a pro wrestler. I'm like, what what 106 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:35.600 is that? What does that mean? What do you mean? And do 107 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:39.399 you know what pro wrestling is? Yes? I seen it on TV and 108 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:43.000 I said, those guys don't make any money though, and she goes, 109 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:48.039 our lows paid guy makes it one hundred thousand dollars a year, and I 110 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:52.159 live, tell me more. So you told me a little more and told 111 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:56.879 me how to get trained. And I went down to the WCW school. 112 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:01.080 There wasn't a power plant yet, There was no WCW school. There was 113 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:07.399 a warehouse with a guy named Buddy Lee Parker and a guy named Joy Jody 114 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:11.879 Hamilton. They ran a school, but it wasn't a have a name or 115 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:16.399 anything. It's just a place you went to get trained. Kevin Nash was 116 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:18.639 down at that school, and I went down there and the day went down 117 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:24.240 there to see about it. Kevin Nash was there and it was just a 118 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:26.919 dump, you know, and they wanted three thousand dollars to get trained. 119 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:31.639 And I went back to Miss Hanson, Missy, it's a dump, and 120 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:35.320 I don't have three thousand dollars, you know. So she found a local 121 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:39.840 guy to train me. I got named Steve the Brother Lawler, and he 122 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:46.679 trained me about for about two weeks and out of that, now again do 123 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:54.960 all of the math. You got graduated at eighteen ten months of massage therapy, 124 00:09:54.759 --> 00:10:00.639 try to make massage therapy work, and then go to wrestling school and 125 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:05.600 signed with w CW in September of ninety one. So very fast track to 126 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:13.000 the big leagues. Probably wasn't well deserved of it, probably didn't work your 127 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:18.519 as are as most people. But you know, from A to Z, 128 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:26.240 I worked extremely hard by how my body looked physically mentally. I may not 129 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:28.799 have known a lot of stuff in the ring when I first got to w 130 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:35.159 CW, but I learned really really quick. And you know, but the 131 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:41.120 track to pro wrestling was it picked me. That's honestly pretty awesome. I'm 132 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:46.639 really glad to hear about that whole story. So when you got to WCW 133 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:50.960 and everything, my uncle Mike had a question, and he's a main guy 134 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:54.320 on the podcast, he's the one who really runs the episodes for the most 135 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:58.679 part. He was asking about, so you had the Strangler gimmick and everything, 136 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:03.200 what exactly happened that When was the transition from that to buff the stuff? 137 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:05.919 You know, well, that gimmick, that character was. It was 138 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:11.399 called the Handsome Stranger, not the Strangler. Yeah, it's okay, it 139 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:15.679 was. It was really again, these things pick us, you know what 140 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:20.159 I mean. I was twenty, I was nineteen probably night almost twenty, 141 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:24.200 and I was a stripper at a place in Atlanta I called the Lemon Peel, 142 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:30.320 trying to make money, broke. I was independent wrestling, a mail 143 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:33.559 stripper and just trying to make money, trying to live, trying to survive, 144 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:37.039 and at the same time trying to be a wrestler. And I remember 145 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:43.759 being at the Lemon Peel and watching myself on a company called Global Championship Wrestling 146 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:50.360 as the Handsome Stranger, and it was on ESPN and it was a great 147 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:54.159 time spot. But again, looking back, on it. It seemed like 148 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:56.879 it was a year, but it was about three months, that's all it 149 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:01.000 was. So again, you got the ten months of schooling of Massis therapy 150 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:07.720 training to become a pro wrestler, three months at Global as a handsome stranger, 151 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:11.919 and then from that is where that three months, man, I learned 152 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:15.600 a lot in three months, so I really did. I was out in 153 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:20.000 the red ring with guys that really knew what they were doing. I mean, 154 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:24.679 you know, High Step, Eddie Gilbert's xpot was called the Lightning Kid. 155 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:31.159 The Patriot was there, you know, Raven was there as Scott Anthony, 156 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:35.039 the pom Beach Heart, Throb Rod Price, you know tug Boat. 157 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:41.399 There were several major superstars there that knew how to work, and I really 158 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:45.720 learned. Rip Rogers was there, which was my first win at w CW. 159 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:50.480 He was a fantastic wrestler. So I really was throwing the ring with 160 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:54.480 guys that knew what they were doing at that Global. That three months at 161 00:12:54.519 --> 00:13:01.360 Global, man, I really went from below average independent wrestler to above average 162 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:07.960 independent wrestler. And I really and then at WCW you're only as good as 163 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:09.440 who you work. So when I got in the ring with guys that knew 164 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:13.960 what they were doing. I could fake it, and I faked it till 165 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:16.759 I made it. And it didn't take a whole lot of faking, but 166 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:20.559 a little faking till I made it big and it worked out. But the 167 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:24.919 Handsome Stranger was a great gimmick. I wore this like long Ranger mask and 168 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:35.480 bill Edie demolitions his wife is who created that gimmick. So I came out 169 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:39.480 with roses and I had any roses out and the women and it was a 170 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:43.519 real cheesy type of gimmick. But I mean I loved it. It was 171 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:46.639 a great thing. And looking back on it, people really enjoyed that character 172 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:52.799 absolutely. So what was the transition like going from that character to Buff? 173 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:56.720 You know, how did that all work out and everything? Well, the 174 00:13:56.799 --> 00:14:01.519 transition from that would have been from that to Marcus Alexander Bagwell, which is 175 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:09.399 myself, so I long Ranger mass to a WCW. So like the really 176 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:15.480 a transition would have been from from Marcus Alexander Bagwell to Buff. That transition, 177 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:20.000 you know, wasn't very none of them is very big. It's a 178 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:24.279 transition that you that you just try to throw, You try to throw things 179 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:31.519 against the wall to see what sticks. But as Marcus Alexander Bagwell that character 180 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:35.679 was, you know, the women would cheer, but the men would be 181 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:39.039 like, oh, boo, who's this pretty boy, good guy boo. 182 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:43.799 So again I found myself in a business that I had half of the population, 183 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:48.960 the one half of the women like Marcus Alexander Bagwell, the half of 184 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:54.600 the men did not. So again I got fifty percent of the nation that's 185 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:58.519 rooting for me. So by creating the character Buff, now you got the 186 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:05.240 women that cheer for me still, but now I'm dialing into that men at 187 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:09.080 that men audience, the male audience, which is you know that buff back 188 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:13.600 with a cool dude man. And so by having both male and female, 189 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:18.480 that's what Buff did, and that transition was a really good one at a 190 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:22.799 good time, and it's what got me, you know, from Marcus Alexander 191 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:28.840 Bagwell to a little more. Start them with the buff fair enough man. 192 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:33.399 So, being who you are and everything, it's been interesting to me to 193 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:37.759 see because I'll be honest, you're not like the biggest name, but you 194 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:41.639 are somebody that you've had some great moments and you are very well remembered for 195 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:45.480 being in the nineties and everything. So I do want to ask you about 196 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:48.399 So there's a lot of guys that you worked with obviously that were part of 197 00:15:48.440 --> 00:15:50.519 I want to call them the old Guard. You know, you had Hogan, 198 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:54.440 you had Flair, You and all those guys who really are just legends 199 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:58.840 in their own right. So I'd like to ask whatever you're comfortable with saying, 200 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:02.279 who do you you feel were the better guys to be with? And 201 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:04.840 how you felt about some of those guys and who were you just like I 202 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:08.600 can't stand this person or just didn't want to be around them. I'll be 203 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:12.919 honest with you. And there was at w c W we did not have 204 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:17.799 Oh my god, I don't want to be around those guys. Those guys 205 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:21.279 we just really didn't. Everybody got along pretty good, man. We were 206 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:23.320 kind of like a family. I mean, you know, you had different 207 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:27.799 clicks. Like you know, there's guys I wouldn't ride with in cars, 208 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:33.200 but it wasn't personal. It was what they did. Like if you rode 209 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:37.279 in and Stings and Marcus Alexander Bagle was rent a car on the road, 210 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:41.360 you were going to the gym, you were gonna go play golf, you 211 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:47.320 were gonna be you were gonna tan train, You're gonna eat good. Uh, 212 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:49.960 and we were gonna bowl or play golf in the in the middle, 213 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:55.399 we were gonna be doing something fun. And but the main thing it was 214 00:16:55.519 --> 00:17:00.440 all surrounded by was weight training, diet and tanning, and and that was 215 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:06.079 just a muss. So that differentiated the guys. That separated, uh, 216 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:08.440 the guys a lot because a lot of guys didn't do that. You know, 217 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:12.759 we didn't know what beer was yet, we didn't know what pills were 218 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:18.400 yet. We just knew about becoming the best pro wrestler we could become. 219 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:23.839 And during that time, it just there was never any like tension with anybody. 220 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:27.400 So we got along. Everybody got along at w C really will and 221 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:30.200 uh, I mean things changed and it went on, but still there was 222 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:36.200 never any big feuds. If it was, it kind of got squashed because 223 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:41.279 everybody got along pretty good. But it just h But the click that I 224 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:48.680 hung around was Sting, Lex Luger, Scott Norton, uh, Scottie Riggs, 225 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:52.559 Patriot, you know the guys that I tagged team with as well. 226 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:56.160 But you know, but everybody kind of had their own rental car. You 227 00:17:56.200 --> 00:18:00.359 got to realize there's only four seats and that when car that's all there is. 228 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:04.200 So three or four buddies is all you got, and a lot of 229 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:08.119 times it would be a couple of cars following each other. But it was, 230 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:14.880 uh whatever your whatever you did outside the ring is what shows your people. 231 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:18.200 But as far as you know, guys, I didn't want to be 232 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:22.440 around. There really wasn't that kind of a clique. Everybody worked, everybody, 233 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:26.240 and everybody kind of got along. That's pretty cool, man. I'm 234 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:27.880 glad that you guys were more of a close knit unit than you know. 235 00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:33.200 You hear stories about like a WWE and how they had the click backstage and 236 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:37.480 how people had fosity and all that, and yeah, right, it's kind 237 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:40.000 of nice to hear that you guys were, you know, closer and just 238 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:42.880 didn't seem to mind. So, uh, I do want to ask what 239 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:45.880 was just hanging out with Alex Luger like and Sting? You know, what, 240 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:51.119 were they like just general normal guys or you know, anything special? 241 00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:56.119 They were fantastic Sting. Sting was the first one to kind of take me 242 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:59.799 under his wing. You know, I was the young I mean I was 243 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:04.960 twenty one years old. The next youngest person was probably Flying Brian at thirty. 244 00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:08.480 You know, that's nine years bro, That's a nine year difference in 245 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:11.839 age. So they didn't really know what to do with me. You know. 246 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:18.160 They signed me to a five hundred dollars a year contract, and two 247 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:22.640 days into that Barry Wyndham blew his knee out and I was on the road 248 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:26.000 with WCW and never looked back. I stayed on the road into my first 249 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:30.279 year. I was Rookie of the Year and Tag Team of the Year and 250 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:33.480 World Tag Team Champions all in nineteen ninety two and never looked back. So 251 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:38.160 sting through at the beginning, he took me under his wing and I was 252 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:41.920 riding in his car and all the boys were like, what are you doing 253 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:45.799 with that young guy? He don't know what he's doing, and blah blah 254 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:48.240 blah. But me and his team got really close, so that really helped 255 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:52.519 out a lot with the other boys accepting me and stuff. But Lex wasn't 256 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:56.680 there. He was there at the very beginning and then he left, so 257 00:19:56.799 --> 00:20:00.480 me and Lex wasn't friends at all, but he was at WWF. So 258 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:07.079 when Lex came in to the company, that's when Steam started having some like 259 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:12.880 some personal problems at home, and he started going home a lot in California 260 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:18.319 and me and a Lex Man, we we hooked up and was everything is 261 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:23.319 We were number one. We call it number one personalities, which is, 262 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:27.240 you know, just everything had to be the best and the right way, 263 00:20:27.400 --> 00:20:32.519 and from from filling the ice and the cooler the right way to the way 264 00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:37.759 we did our workouts. We were very organized. We were very very good 265 00:20:38.039 --> 00:20:42.519 and bad for each other. Me and Lex were at first it was all 266 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:45.200 great. I mean, we were all great for each other. It was 267 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:52.240 workout, tan train, eat diet. I mean, it was just non 268 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:56.640 stop. Lex Lugri and Buff Bible were going to be the best that we 269 00:20:56.680 --> 00:21:02.400 could be. So it was a blast, a fantastic time with Lex Ludeernstein. 270 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:04.400 That's awesome, man, I'm glad to hear that you got along with 271 00:21:04.440 --> 00:21:07.640 them so well. So more digging into your character a little bit, I 272 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:11.319 do want to ask, were there any inspirations from the outside or you know, 273 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:15.920 maybe movies or anything like that for where Buff came from? Really, 274 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:19.039 you know, the gimmick I'm really questioning like, was it like some sort 275 00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:22.119 of I don't know, like kind of alpha male vibrato sort of thing, 276 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:27.279 or where do you think that the character's whole idea came from. I really, 277 00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:36.519 I really think it came from just I. Everybody's gimmick, everybody's gimmick 278 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:45.920 that really works is just an exaggerated version of yourself. You know, Diamond 279 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:52.160 Dallas Page doing the bang and the way he talks, that's just him dialed 280 00:21:52.240 --> 00:22:00.839 up a notch and him exaggerating Page Fulkenberg, Rick Flair, same thing when 281 00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:06.440 Rick players out there wooo and all that, that is just a slightly exaggerated 282 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:12.920 of himself. Marcus Alexander Bagwell as a rookie, as a rookie and the 283 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:17.920 age I was and being a pretty boy and all that. There's rules, 284 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:22.640 man, and those rules are you got to When I'm doing a probo and 285 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:29.039 I'm wrestling Rick Rude, I can't really cut a real good promo because I'm 286 00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:34.240 a babyface and I'm young and green and I'm Marcus Alexander Bagwell Rookie of the 287 00:22:34.319 --> 00:22:40.279 Year, and I found that it just it just wasn't created. It wasn't 288 00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:45.119 a lot of fun. So but getting that character over, people really got 289 00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:48.599 behind it because of staying saving me and putting this in him helping me out. 290 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:53.079 It really got some traction. But when I saw that, you know, 291 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:57.200 when I got in the ring with NW guys, it was definitely time 292 00:22:57.279 --> 00:23:02.920 to come up with another name. You know. It's like stone cold and 293 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:07.759 like steam and like Lex Luger. You know. Marcus I's inner bag was 294 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:12.839 my real name. I just it just didn't it didn't hit the rock, 295 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:17.000 you know. So I went to w CW with, look, I want 296 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:22.599 to call myself buff, and they agreed to use the word buff, but 297 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:27.240 they would not drop Marcus Bagwell because they had worked too hard on it. 298 00:23:27.640 --> 00:23:32.799 So they agreed to call me Marcus buff Bagwell. But I really didn't want 299 00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:34.240 to be called that. I want to be called buff, you know. 300 00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:38.759 It just I just wanted the one name, and Buff in this corner, 301 00:23:40.279 --> 00:23:44.960 Buff in this corner of the rock, in this corner steamed, you know. 302 00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:49.119 I wanted just that one powerful name. So they they still threw it 303 00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:53.480 in there, but they wanted the Marcus baggele with it fair enough, man. 304 00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:59.000 So uh, the American Males Tag Team. It was pretty successful. 305 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:02.759 And I watched a little bit of a Nitro from back in the day and 306 00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:07.519 everything starting in a nineteen ninety five How did you feel about your guys' entry 307 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:11.720 music, because times it's like, man, this is just goofy sounding. 308 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:15.440 What did you think of it? Oh? Well, personally tell you that 309 00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:22.240 if you ever heard that song without the words, it's incredible. I mean, 310 00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:26.000 we did a video. There's an America Male video out there that you 311 00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:30.640 can find that is, to this day, the best video I've ever done 312 00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:34.559 in my life. It's a black and white video before black and white was 313 00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:44.519 cool. A guy named Graham No see, I'm sorry. Uh Kemper Rogers 314 00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:48.400 was this guy's name, Kemper Rogers. He worked for w CW, but 315 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:52.960 he also did a lot of stuff on his own. Me and Scottie Riggs 316 00:24:52.000 --> 00:25:00.200 did this America male video and it was absolutely incredible. The video. It's 317 00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:07.519 Jimmy argument with the music and in the video that the words don't get said, 318 00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:21.960 and it is you know, ram da da and it's incredible. But 319 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:27.119 then you go amer Akie males a Meeranke mals a Merankie mal It's it just 320 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:32.039 it rips it apart. But still to this day people love it. I 321 00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:36.519 mean, it's it's people enjoy it and they they you know it just you 322 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:38.680 just don't forget it, you know, yeah, I agree with that, 323 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:42.160 man, And uh, I do agree. It is very nice sounding, 324 00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:48.079 just uh, you know musically without the no vocals is the word. There's 325 00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:52.160 no vocals. It's really good, right right, I have to say. 326 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:56.079 But yeah, next to a danger high voltage, I think it would have 327 00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:57.799 been like because of the vocals, it just makes it, you know, 328 00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:03.559 that bad for Yeah, I totally agree, man. So I do kind 329 00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:06.839 of want to ask you about your mom and everything, and just did you 330 00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:08.720 ever think that, like when you entered that business, your mom would also 331 00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:11.960 become just as famous with you, man, or you know, because I 332 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:15.519 can't imagine, you know, going into that kind of business and like my 333 00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:18.000 mom being next to me, you know, it's just the last thing that'd 334 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:21.920 beme on my mind. Well, and to think about this, I mean, 335 00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:27.519 she was one half of the World Tag Team Champions bro In the end, 336 00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:33.799 if you did research, Judy Bagwell and Rick Steiner were the World Tag 337 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:37.079 Team Champions, that's crazy. But no, I didn't see any of that 338 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:42.960 coming. All of that idea was Rick Steiner's Rick Steiner. You know, 339 00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:47.799 I broke my neck. Rick Steiner broke my neck in Columbia, South Carolina 340 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:53.599 April twenty second, nineteen ninety eight, and I turned heel and by the 341 00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:57.400 time we went back to Columbia, I was a full, full blown heel 342 00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:06.640 Well. Rick's idea was to have Judy my mom in Columbia, in the 343 00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:10.000 same town I broke my neck in and have her being like what are you 344 00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:14.119 doing your what are you doing? Dogging all the fans and blaming Rick Steiner 345 00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:18.079 for your injury and blah blah blah. So and Rick, I don't think 346 00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:22.200 it would have worked if it was my idea, because why is Mark Bagwell 347 00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:26.079 trying to get his mother on TV. I don't think he would have worked 348 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:27.960 with all the egos. But he had nothing to do with me, had 349 00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:32.960 nothing to do with it. Rick went to Eric Bischof with it. Eric 350 00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:34.920 asked for my blessing, and I said, absolutely, whatever you want to 351 00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:38.920 do, let's do it. And so Mom was a great character, and 352 00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:45.359 that night in Columbia, I remember like saying, you know, I was 353 00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:52.240 talking to her backstage and I wasn't finding who I needed. You know, 354 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:59.440 she was a tough, rough woman that ran a lumber business in the seventies 355 00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:07.279 and eighties. A ninety nine male populated business and industry was ran by a 356 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:12.720 woman. She had two hundred men employees, and there isn't no In seventies 357 00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:18.400 and eighties, there was no women truck drivers. So you had all the 358 00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:25.039 male dominant industry. And there my mother is running a successful, very successful 359 00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:30.279 lumberyard. And so you know her in the backstage of a bunch of wrestlers, 360 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.839 no problem. But when I was talking to her in Columbia backstage, 361 00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:37.000 I was losing her. Man. I was like, oh, Mom, 362 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:40.480 come on, nowhere, come on, now, you gotta do this, 363 00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:42.480 and you got to talk like this, and I could see the more I 364 00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:48.119 pushed, the more she went away. And so at that stage I had 365 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:52.440 to get myself ready for TV. And I was like, Dad, just 366 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:56.559 talked to him to the best she can. And but so I'd already planned 367 00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:00.960 to have something to say to her to really get her out there so she 368 00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:04.680 would snap out of it. So she once supposed to get in the ring, 369 00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:10.160 she once sposed to touch Scott Steiner, and she wasn't supposed get the 370 00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:12.839 ring. So she's out there and I could she was talking pretty good, 371 00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:15.960 but I still was gonna say what I had planned, And I said, 372 00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:19.160 the truth is when I said to her, I said, let me tell 373 00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:25.240 you something, lady. Without me, you couldn't even eat. And here's 374 00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:27.200 she come. Brother. She came in that in that ring, and I 375 00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:32.359 went yes, and then she slapped me and then she went there Scott and 376 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:36.359 Scott almost broke her arm. But my mom had to wear her braid for 377 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:40.400 like a month after that because it almost broke her wrist. But uh, 378 00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:45.319 it was. It was fantastic and literally a star was born. Yeah, 379 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.920 it is a Honestly, it is pretty cool that you got to incorporate your 380 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.119 family with everything. I mean. I do want to also bring up the 381 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:57.079 Judy Bagwall and the Forkliff match, because where did this idea come from? 382 00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:02.000 Man? I I have to say, God, who's the heel in that 383 00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:04.640 match? Was a Kenyon? I think? And then uh, he actually 384 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:07.920 did work a pretty good promo. Like I still wanted to hate him while 385 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:11.359 he was talking. I will give him credit. He was pretty good. 386 00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:15.279 Absolutely, I do want to ask where was the inspiration for that? Where 387 00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:21.640 did this idea come from? Man? Vince Russo was reach and during this 388 00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:26.200 time, the company was in trouble and I was getting some heat for speaking 389 00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:29.599 up, and so when they came to me with this. I was like, 390 00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:33.359 sure, whatever, and I was I didn't want to argue no more 391 00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:37.480 with him. I was tired of arguing. I just hey, do what 392 00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:40.359 you want to do, and I'm I hear you. Let's do it. 393 00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:42.240 So I didn't say a word about it. I just said, okay, 394 00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:47.759 let's do it. I mean it. Even the name was even missed up, 395 00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:52.000 like Judy bagla on a pole match is what it was called. But 396 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.440 it was Judy bag on a fourth clift. And again the Mark Bagwele that 397 00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:57.880 I wanted to be was go to him and say, hey, guys, 398 00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:03.559 why is it called a pole when it's the forklift? But the new Mark 399 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.000 said, nope, don't say a word. All you're getting is heat. 400 00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:10.920 So just keep your mouth shut and do what they say, because that's what 401 00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:14.799 the that's what the top stars say to do your lexus and your stings. 402 00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:17.720 Those guys. Shut your mouth, Mark, and just do what you're told. 403 00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:21.359 So I shut my mouth and did what I told and I'll watch this 404 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:26.559 match called Judy bagwell on a pole match, except it was a forklift, 405 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.960 and I went out and did what I was told. All right, fair 406 00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:34.519 enough, man, it's it is a little goofy, but you know what, 407 00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:37.839 hey man, you got the crazy part. But that the craziest part 408 00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:45.359 about it, though, is a very big populated part of Georgia. It 409 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:51.359 made sense to because of the lumber company. I don't think Vince Russo knew 410 00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:53.759 that my parents had a lumber yard. I don't think nobody at w c 411 00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:59.599 W except a few of my friends knew about Southeastern Building Supply because it was 412 00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:02.240 it was over in nineteen eighty eight, you know. So, I don't 413 00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:09.240 like nobody even knew about it, but old Marcus Bagwell or Stephen Bagwell, 414 00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:14.960 people that knew them, and probably watching the show, We're like, oh, 415 00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.880 that's all you and the lumber company. But wrestling fans were like, 416 00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:22.519 what what is going on? So it was really weird. Uh I just 417 00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:28.759 chalked it up to another you know, ventroushow idea, and I was I 418 00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:31.240 didn't want to complain. I just said yes, sir and did what I 419 00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:35.640 was supposed to do. Yeah, man, I hear that. I mean 420 00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:37.799 sometimes you just kind of do what you gotta do, follow what your contract 421 00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:43.119 says. That's it. That's it. Yeah man. So I do also 422 00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:46.160 want to ask about, uh so your career altogether, do you have any 423 00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:50.559 like favorite moments that you went through that you just look back and you're like, 424 00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:52.480 man, that was just my absolute top and you just think, man, 425 00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:58.000 I could go back to that any day. You know. The whole 426 00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:01.359 NW thing man was extra extremely special. It really was. I mean, 427 00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:06.480 the whole career was a lot of fun. I mean I was a fight. 428 00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:09.640 I mean, think about this. I was a five time World tag 429 00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:16.240 Team champion and the whole run was only ten years, so every other year 430 00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:22.559 I was a World tag team champion on the average, So I really hate 431 00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:25.480 that I went in running for the World Belt. I do think I was 432 00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:29.519 in a little running with Dallas for the US Belt for a little bit. 433 00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:32.160 I may have been the US champion for a short bit. I can't remember, 434 00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:35.759 but I don't think I was every the US champ, but I think 435 00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.519 I was close to getting it or something. But that was the only running 436 00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:43.279 I was in for. But then we had a TV Belt, and we 437 00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:45.880 had the US Draft and the tag Belts and the World Belt. But I 438 00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:49.920 was never even in the running, you know, for the world for the 439 00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:53.400 World Belt. But again, you look back on it when you're a World 440 00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:59.359 tag team champion, every other year on the average. You know, is 441 00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:01.200 there time for a World Belt? I mean, I'm not sure there is. 442 00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:06.079 So. I mean back then you didn't have guys that had the world 443 00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:09.599 belt and they were tag team champions. It was pretty rare, so you 444 00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:13.400 know, most of the time it was you know, you just had one 445 00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:17.320 belt and that's all. So overall, I really felt like they did me 446 00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:22.760 right. I was always in the running for something, and I was always 447 00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:27.920 figured in, and I had a great ten year run on television. Fair 448 00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.639 enough, man. I mean, like you said, you started out kind 449 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:32.119 of green, and you know, hey, we all start out green and 450 00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:36.760 whatever we're going to do in life, you know, so I can kind 451 00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:37.679 of understand in the beginning, you know, hey, we'll give them tag 452 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:39.800 team belts and everything. We'll keep them on the low for now. But 453 00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:43.920 I feel like they should have at some point been able to work you into 454 00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:45.519 at least one storyline, even if it was going to be short lived. 455 00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:51.159 Why not. You know, I remember them doing a little bit with me 456 00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:54.280 in Dallas over the US Belt, but it wasn't it wasn't big enough and 457 00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:59.599 it went long enough. That's valid. So do you think that maybe U 458 00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:02.559 locker room might have just been too oversaturated with talent at the time to uh 459 00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:07.239 work you in or do you think it was just you know political. You 460 00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:12.639 know a lot of people don't talk about that, and I hate talking about 461 00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:15.760 it because it makes it sound like, you know, we were so much 462 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:19.360 talent, so many so much talent. But but think about it, Bro, 463 00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:28.519 I mean, I look at the ae W roster m and half of 464 00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:32.920 their roster. Bro would not have been on a Nitro show. It wouldn't 465 00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:38.800 have been there. I mean, Nitro was slammed, Bro. From Chabo 466 00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:45.840 Guerrero's to Billy Kidman's too, to Marcus Bagwells, to Chris beIN Wahs to 467 00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:50.199 I mean to Eddie Gurero's when he was there. I mean it was. 468 00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:57.159 It was crazy to Canyons to to Dallas and Luger's stings I mean not Demolition 469 00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:02.119 but Gronik. I mean all the jin drags and o'hairs that were coming up 470 00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:07.320 plumbos. It was slammed, Bro. It was crazy. I mean, 471 00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:13.360 you got Billy Kidman, you got you got Saturn, you got Raven, 472 00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:20.599 you got Lex Luger, Steams, Chronics, Dallas Pages, Rick Ruths. 473 00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:24.039 It was it was crazy. Bro, Scott Norton's, Kevin Nash's Scott Owls. 474 00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:30.800 I mean, you got so many names that you just I mean, 475 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:32.480 what do you do with all these guys? Right, I mean, what 476 00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:36.719 do you do with them? It's crazy? It was it was a talent 477 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:43.760 It was a talent filled roster. Brother absolutely, it was just absolutely massive. 478 00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:45.559 You guys had legends, you had plenty of up and comers, you 479 00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:50.119 had Booker t, you had Kenyan, you had yourself. It was so 480 00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:52.760 many people involved at the same time, and it's like, how do we 481 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:55.840 give the spotlight to everybody equally where it needs to go? Yeah? Yeah, 482 00:36:55.840 --> 00:37:00.440 with the nWo and everything there was, they kind of tried to give 483 00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:04.119 it to everyone at once, just to say like, okay, here's everybody 484 00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.639 that we've got. It kind of felt like to me anyways, and you 485 00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:10.079 know, things always run their course, and it seemed like eventually it got 486 00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:15.119 overplayed, which you know is what it is. History is history. Yes, 487 00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:19.039 Yeah, there's just so many people that were on that roster. It's 488 00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:21.719 kind of hard to you know, it's hard to push everybody at that point 489 00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:24.039 unless you, I don't know, make another show and another belt with it. 490 00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:30.960 But uh yeah, so your career favorite moments. Yeah, So do 491 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:34.159 you have any regrets with your career as well? I do want to ask 492 00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:38.599 that. That's a good question. I always said I didn't. But let 493 00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:44.280 me think about that, like regret, you know, like I mean, 494 00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:49.920 I regret. I'll think of like that. I had no stroke in or 495 00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:55.199 no power into it. But you know, turning me yeel out of that 496 00:37:55.320 --> 00:38:01.440 neck break, you know, I all, they could have become one of 497 00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:07.639 the biggest baby faces ever coming out of that broken neck thing. Man. 498 00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:12.440 I mean I had ten thousand letters, bro I had people that were in 499 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.800 the war, the desert was storing war that would touch my picture before going 500 00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:21.760 to battle. I mean when I turned heill there, it was really bad 501 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:28.199 to the public. It was my parents were physically physically upset that I was 502 00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:32.039 turning heill because of all the letters and the thousands of letters they wrote and 503 00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:37.960 read and responded to. And just I mean people, I mean, I 504 00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:43.920 broke my neck on live television. I was paralyzed for four or five minutes 505 00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:46.880 on live television. It was crazy, you know. And so for me 506 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:53.400 to throw that in their face and turn heel again, it wasn't my decision. 507 00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:58.480 It was Eric Bischoff's but but, and I think it was a great 508 00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:04.360 one. But it really was a pivotal time that really could have maybe I 509 00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:09.159 remember this. I remember this very very clearly. Triple Hs at the time 510 00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:15.199 had tore his quad. If you could do your math when I was hurt 511 00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:20.679 April twenty second, nineteen ninety eight, from them to the next ten months, 512 00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:23.639 I can tell you Triple Hs tore his quad in that period of time 513 00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:29.159 when he tore his quad in that period of time when he and Karen, 514 00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:32.920 Your quad is a big deal, brother, It's huge, but it ain't 515 00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:38.519 as big as breaking your neck and being paralyzed. It ain't. Our company 516 00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:45.239 didn't talk about my broke neck at all. I mean no video. They 517 00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:49.760 had a whole video of Triple Hs coming back. You would have thought he 518 00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:54.239 rose from the dead. And with mine, Eric felt like it was bad 519 00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:59.920 karma. So there was no videos in the hospital, there were no vis 520 00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:07.599 yet shot. I was just back wrestled, lost to the guy that broke 521 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:13.679 my neck, which never happens. I lost the match and then it was 522 00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:20.800 over a two year long angle that you could have done between Rick Steiner and 523 00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:25.599 Buff Bagwell was one match and done. It was crazy. I have no 524 00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:30.639 idea what they were doing. But again the question is do I have regret. 525 00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:34.239 There's no regret to me. It was not what I would have done, 526 00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:37.639 it wasn't my decision, but it's no regret there. So I don't 527 00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:43.400 have any regrets at all. For ten years, I did what I did. 528 00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:51.639 I was probably addicted to pills already, but I had that WCW leash 529 00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:55.599 and it was a strong leash, brother, it was a really strong leash 530 00:40:55.840 --> 00:41:00.480 that kept me right now. And that leash was cut off and I was 531 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:04.719 depressed, and the WWF had let me go and all that, man, 532 00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:08.199 I was, I was right there and off I went, buddy. So 533 00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:13.639 for the next twenty for sure, for the next twenty I was. I 534 00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:19.280 was sedated heavily. But uh, that ten I really, I really was. 535 00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:24.320 I was. I was in check. That's fair, man. It 536 00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:28.239 is kind of unfortunate that they booked you that way. That really doesn't make 537 00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:30.000 sense to me. And they could have played so much off, you know, 538 00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:34.840 sympathy and making you just the easiest babyface. That could have been great 539 00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:39.559 for you character and development and everything would have fallen into your lap at that 540 00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:43.480 point because like, hey, they see you just went through all that. 541 00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:45.920 You basically recovered from almost the same thing that Draws went through, you know, 542 00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:50.360 except you didn't have to be completely paralyzed for the rest of your life. 543 00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:53.440 Thank god, you know. I went and saw Draws in the hospital. 544 00:41:53.880 --> 00:42:00.000 So I broke my neck. I had I came back from the dead 545 00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:04.679 so to speak, you know, and back in the ring and everything. 546 00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:07.000 And I remember Kerry Taylor called me up and said, hey, will you 547 00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:10.880 go visit Draws in the in the hospital. I said, sure will so 548 00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.159 I'll never forget it. He was in the Philadelphis and it was in Philadelphia. 549 00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:19.719 I can't remember what hotel and I can't remember what hospital, but it 550 00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:24.239 was but w CW set it up for me to go do and I flew 551 00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:29.000 in and went to see Draws on Me in the hospital, and I remember 552 00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:35.960 giving him bad advice, but it was, you know, I was trying 553 00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:38.840 to be positive. And you know, when I broke my neck in the 554 00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:45.039 ring, I remembered when I could wiggle my fingers and toes as there put 555 00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:49.800 me on the board. That I didn't know at the time, but that 556 00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:52.280 was going to be good news. Later on, when I visited Draws on 557 00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:55.480 me, in the hospital. He was able to move a little bit, 558 00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:00.199 and I said, man, that's got to be good news. And I 559 00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:04.480 told him the finger and toe story. But obviously it was not good news. 560 00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.480 It was bad news. He never recovered. I mean, hey, 561 00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:09.760 man, it is what it is. You were being positive for a friend 562 00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:14.679 and everything and you shared with your experience. There's nothing wrong with that man, 563 00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:20.159 right, You did right by him either way. Yes, So look 564 00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:28.480 at your career overall, how would you describe it? Honestly, my career, 565 00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:37.119 my career. The answer is much different than my WCW run. I 566 00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:46.639 would look at my WCW run as a fantastic run that was well deserved, 567 00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:57.320 well managed. Maybe a little on the underside of some achievements I could have 568 00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:00.119 had, but very little bro Again, like I said, every other year 569 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:05.119 I was the World Tag Team Champion, so I was in the nWo. 570 00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:10.960 I mean, that ten year run was top notch, spectacular, but my 571 00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:17.840 career was over by one WWF did so. But my career, I don't 572 00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:27.440 have an answer about my career because the next twenty years was in high school 573 00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:31.159 gyms and you know, some stadiums, some events. You know, we 574 00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:36.880 went to Australia, right out of the gate and early two thousand was a 575 00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:43.400 company called the ww A World Resting All Stars in Australia and it was fantastic. 576 00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:46.840 It was big stadiums, big events, you know, steing Lugers, 577 00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:52.760 same old card, same good big stars and so you know. But still 578 00:44:52.920 --> 00:45:00.400 it wasn't the WWF, it wasn't the WCW. It was a party country, 579 00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:07.000 I mean company, third party company. And it just my career was 580 00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:13.960 a letdown. I feel not so much from what I did. I just 581 00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:19.400 just it is what it is. But I just my glory years, my 582 00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:25.599 glory years when Vince let me go, I was thirty one, so my 583 00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:35.719 glory years brother was spent in different countries, different cities, trying to trying 584 00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:43.079 to get back to the WWF WWE, and knew I was never going back, 585 00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:47.239 but made the best of it I could. But it was really a 586 00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:52.519 letdown. I could have really done something big with Vince in the WWE, 587 00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:55.239 and I'd love to have done it, man, I would have loved it. 588 00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:00.440 But you know, it's just it just is what it is. Man. 589 00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:06.719 I have I have zero regrets. I don't I got no regrets. 590 00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:15.199 None. That helps a lot. I banked on I knew that my alcohol 591 00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:20.920 and pills when Vince took over, When Vince bought us the WWF w W, 592 00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:27.599 I knew my pills and alcohol were borderline out of control, but they 593 00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:35.000 had not got out of control yet. I banked on the w WF going 594 00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:40.920 and they didn't. I banked on me being buffed bagwell, that they would 595 00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:45.760 say, you know, you got to clean up, man, you gotta 596 00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:50.159 clean up, and I would have. I banked on a warning, a 597 00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:54.079 slap on the hand, and I did not receive that. My slap on 598 00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:59.280 the hand was get out and it was too late, and I went, 599 00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:04.519 oh my god. So the regret I have would be, if I had 600 00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:08.519 one, would be not getting clean sooner. But again, I wasn't out 601 00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:14.400 of control yet. I was. It was starting to become out of control, 602 00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:17.599 and I could have easily fixed it with one rehab and yes, Sir 603 00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:21.920 got back in the ring and been clean, and it would have been a 604 00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:28.039 whole other life. But that ain't what happened. So this path is what 605 00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:34.880 happened. I'm very excited about this path. I could never have this kind 606 00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:39.440 of story of sobriety and recovery unless I had the twenty years to talk about 607 00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:45.519 it. I do believe my story is going to save and change some lives, 608 00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:50.800 and I think that's what it's all about. So I'm very excited about 609 00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:55.559 what happened in my ten years. I love the business for the whole thirty 610 00:47:55.599 --> 00:48:02.199 three, but I think my career was cut short. That's ballid Man. 611 00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:07.400 And you know, once again, I personally am really proud of you for 612 00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:10.079 actually getting sober Man. That's a big accomplishment. And you know, I 613 00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:14.480 really do think that your story it could reach out to some of our listeners, 614 00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:16.079 somebody who may be struggling themselves, maybe to get them some help. 615 00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:19.880 It could be a really big thing. But uh, you know, back 616 00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.760 more under the wrestling topic. So I do want to ask you what was 617 00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:25.039 your favorite match or even just event that you were a part of, Man, 618 00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:30.440 because you know, you know, I really, for some reason, 619 00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:38.599 every time I'm asked that I remember a nineteen ninety three wrestle many I'm excuse 620 00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:47.000 me. Ninety night three Halloween Havoc with the Nasty Boys. We had we 621 00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:52.400 had Teddy Long as a manager, me and Too Cold and the Nasty Boys 622 00:48:52.440 --> 00:49:04.239 had Missy Hyatt as a manager. So that's seven people with seven different brains 623 00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:10.360 counting you got wrestlers, that's four, you got the managers at six, 624 00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:15.440 and you got the referee. That's seven different brains all working together to have 625 00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:23.079 one excellent match. And that's the one match that I remember that when it 626 00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:29.039 was over, that we pulled it off. We made the We conquered the 627 00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:36.360 hardest tag team match with seven people, and everybody did their job. The 628 00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:42.840 nineteen ninety three Halloween Havoc. All right, fair enough, So I also 629 00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:46.119 want to ask you do you have like a dream match that's ever been in 630 00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:50.000 your head? Like if you were going for a championship belt, who do 631 00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:52.880 you see across from you can be? You know, just even if it 632 00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:54.599 was like your brother or somebody, if you have one you know growing up 633 00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:58.599 or whatever that you watch wrestling with, or if it's somebody that you looked 634 00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:02.079 up to, who would be your dream upon it Man the Rock? Really, 635 00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:07.840 yeah, and let me tell you something. It was supposed to happen. 636 00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:14.920 Really, there's just no doubt. The age he's two years younger he 637 00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:20.079 was. He was the third or fourth Will in that group he was in. 638 00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:24.440 I was the third or fourth Will in the nWo. It was just 639 00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:30.440 meant to be brother. I broke my neck and lost ten months, but 640 00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:36.280 I picked right back up. I lost a little speed when he gained at 641 00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:39.119 ten months, and there was a crack in that window and he got through 642 00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:44.119 that crack, and I didn't make it. But it was supposed to be 643 00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:51.880 the rock versus buff Bagwell Ballot. And you know, I know that you 644 00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:55.800 said that you described your career as kind of a letdown. But you know 645 00:50:55.880 --> 00:51:00.679 what, honestly, man, the way that your story has gone, I 646 00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:05.599 honestly would consider your life a story of resilience at this point, man, 647 00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:08.679 because I see you bouncing back no matter what has happened, and I respect 648 00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:14.800 you for it a lot, man, and absolutely man. But something else 649 00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:17.760 that I do want to ask you, So what is your favorite match gimmick 650 00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:23.280 type outside of just normal matchmen? I'm not sure the questions, so do 651 00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:28.199 right now? So match gimmick, you know, like ladder match, cage 652 00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.679 match, royal rumble. You know what would be your favorite to watch? 653 00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:38.280 You know, the that stuff really wasn't a big WCW thing. I mean 654 00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:44.039 the ladder matches, if I'm right, That kind of came along later on, 655 00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:47.280 you know, like tables were kind of a thing early. I remember 656 00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:52.320 it as the American Males. I remember I went through two tables with the 657 00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:55.760 Public Enemy. That was a big deal. You know, they put me 658 00:51:55.800 --> 00:52:00.920 through two tables and so that was cool. But that was early. That 659 00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:07.280 was you know, ninety three, ninety four maybe, and then you know, 660 00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:13.000 so you know, tables, ladders and chairs really wouldn't happening yet. 661 00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:20.679 So you know, I think you know that My favorite would just be what 662 00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:24.920 I said a minute ago. My favorite match would be a tag match with 663 00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:32.480 both teams having a manager and having some kind of two out of three falls. 664 00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:37.000 All right, nothing wrong with that, man. So I also want 665 00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:39.079 to ask, so, who is your favorite wrestler of all time? Men? 666 00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:51.639 My favorite wrestler of all time is The Rock? Fair enough? Very 667 00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:54.719 popular answer? The Rock. Yeah, I can't blame me there, Dude, 668 00:52:55.360 --> 00:53:05.239 explain anything on becoming a wrestler. The Rock would be the perfect example. 669 00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:09.760 Yeah, it's very sure. He has a very inspirational story about, 670 00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:14.320 you know, getting cut from a CFL and everything and making his comeback and 671 00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:16.800 just deciding like I'm broke right now, but one day I'm not going to 672 00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:22.880 be in absolute perseverance that he had. Yeah, he's the best, He's 673 00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:25.639 the number one, fair enough. They used to be my favorite as well 674 00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:31.840 for a long time. So do you have a favorite. Well, let's 675 00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:36.400 go back into the towards the end of the show. We always like to 676 00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:39.239 do. Do you have any sort of shout outs? Do you want to 677 00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:43.960 add your plugs or anything for people to you know, follow you on Twitter 678 00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:45.960 or anything like that. Man, sure, sure. The best way to 679 00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:53.320 get in touch with me would be to go to Marcus buff Bagwell at Gmail. 680 00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:59.079 Marcus buff Bagwell at Gmail. That's my email and that's the best way 681 00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:01.920 to get in touch with me. All my social media has got buff in 682 00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:07.800 it. It's Mark buff Bagwell on Twitter and the rest of them are Marcus 683 00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:14.840 buff Instagram, Facebook, So just follow me, man. I love I 684 00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:16.679 love talking to people. I love what's going on right now. So if 685 00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:21.280 you get a chance to check it out. If you don't know any of 686 00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:25.679 my social media stuff, go to Marcus buff bag Let Gmail and I'll get 687 00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:30.239 it to you. All right, fair enough. And something else we like 688 00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:32.440 to do here on Wrestle Magic, we always like to try to give recommendations 689 00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:36.000 to any of the fans. Do you have a recommendation of mind sir, 690 00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:45.599 recommendation like let's see like movie, song book, a video game. So 691 00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:52.800 there, I mean, man, recommendation is, God, there's this, 692 00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:58.519 there's this. Really, I mean, it's a great old movie, but 693 00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:05.320 it's it's a great one. It's Gladiator is my favorite movie. So if 694 00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:08.239 you've not seen The Gladiator, man, you got to see it. It's 695 00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:15.559 just it reminds me of wrestling because in wrestling, you've got to win the 696 00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:22.800 people to get popular, and and the Gladiator he's going to win the people 697 00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:29.039 to win his freedom. So I just really resonnate with that, and every 698 00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:34.039 great pro wrestler can resignate with the Gladiator. But it's a great story, 699 00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:39.239 it's a great movie, and it's one of my favorites, the Gladiatory fair 700 00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:43.119 enough, And that's a really great comparison that you gave. You know that 701 00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:45.239 you're you know, really getting over for the people and everything. So I 702 00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:50.920 hear you on that. So I do have one last question that I'd like 703 00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:55.239 to ask, and it's not anything crazy, just who do you think that's 704 00:55:55.239 --> 00:56:00.159 on any active roster in the world that is probably the best at the moment. 705 00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:05.159 Who's your favorite and the active roster right now that's the best right now. 706 00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:15.400 Yes, wow, I mean see the best, the best, the 707 00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:19.519 best to me, has got to be. They've got to look apart, 708 00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:22.039 they've got to wrestle, they got to talk, they gotta look like a 709 00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:28.360 million bucks. They gotta have it all. And so to me, uh, 710 00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:31.440 it would still be the rock man. It just he's still the best. 711 00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:35.559 I mean, he still looks the best, he still can talk the 712 00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:39.760 best. He's still he's still the rock I mean to me, you know, 713 00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:44.079 I mean, I love the seth Rollins's, I love the Cody Rhoses. 714 00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:49.119 I like the town that's coming up. I've not seen a guy out 715 00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:53.679 there that makes me go, wow, I get it. But when the 716 00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:59.719 Rocks out there, Wow, I get it. Even still to this day, 717 00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:04.239 man, even when he comes out of menu. Yeah, fair enough, 718 00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:08.000 man. So would you like to give any last message to our listeners 719 00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:10.960 before we hop off the air, No, man, Just keep in touch 720 00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:15.239 with me again, Marcus buff Baggle at Gmail. Stay in touch with me, 721 00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:19.559 man. I make myself very very reachable. I've also got a podcast 722 00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:25.039 called buff in Stuff Buff and Stuff, and it's on Sunday nights on Twitch 723 00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:32.920 on six pm every Sunday and the Marcus buff BAGELSERINGI Marcus buff Bagle at Gmail. 724 00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:39.119 For any questions cameo dot com. Go to cameo dot com and get 725 00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:42.679 a cameo for me. It's a way I can give you a shout out 726 00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:46.480 for a birthday, for telling somebody to f off, to telling somebody you 727 00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:51.960 love them, for marriages, for vacations. Anything you won't said, let 728 00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:55.440 Buff say it for you. Hey, fair enough, man, And before 729 00:57:55.480 --> 00:57:58.960 we leave, I just want to let you know the first time that I 730 00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:02.320 had ever heard of you was probably around two thousand and ten to twenty twelve. 731 00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:06.880 I had received a set of wrestling DVDs and it was called The Legends 732 00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:10.239 of Wrestling. You were under the heat seekers category. You were. That 733 00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:14.920 was the first time that I had ever gotten any kind of clue who Buff 734 00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:16.760 the stuff was. And seeing some of your promos, I was like, 735 00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:21.440 this guy can really work the mic. I can kind of see why he's 736 00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:23.400 on the cover of this and it makes so much sense. But yeah, 737 00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:28.440 that's kind of where this sort of started, and Scully really reached out to 738 00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:30.599 you. He really made some miracles happen. Because I'll be honest with you, 739 00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:34.760 guys, this was kind of last second. We weren't really expecting it 740 00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:37.480 until today when he answered the email, and so I really appreciate you being 741 00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:42.719 able to come on the show with us tonight. It's been a great honor. 742 00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:45.719 It's been a really nice having you, so thank you, sir. 743 00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:50.960 And if anybody wants to reach me, as always at maintenance MAV on Twitter, 744 00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:55.199 and as always there's something nice for somebody. You never know who needs 745 00:58:55.239 --> 00:59:00.679 it. Somebody might need to pick up man. All right, thank you 746 00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:05.920 sir with us. You really enjoyed it. Brother, absolutely say here. 747 00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:13.119 Thanks for listening to the WWE podcast. Don't forget to subscribe on your favorite 748 00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:19.760 podcast app so you don't miss a show, or head to wwepodcast dot com. 749 00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:22.840 And for all of these shows ad free head over to Patreon dot com 750 00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:29.679 slash WWE podcast. Until then, we'll see you next time.