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Hey guys, Welcome and welcome back
to the podcast where your friends Maddie and

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Lauren, and we're back for another
episode. Today we are recording remotely.

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Lauren is off to school. She's
living in a hotel. So lovely background.

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You've got there, very clean room, thank you, thank you.

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So today we're going to talk about
how to be cool. I feel like

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this is something that you know,
everyone's a bit interested in, including myself.

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Like if I saw a podcast titled
how to be Cool, I'd be

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like, maybe I should give this
a listen. Agreed. I also feel

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like recently, I've heard a lot
of people talking about how no one's actually

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cool. Like a lot of times
what's cool about people is that they're mysterious

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and you don't know them that well, and then when you get to know

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them, they're not actually that cool
and they're pretty normal. Like celebrities are

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the perfect example of that, because
you could see someone online and think that

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they're so cool. Like let's talk
about Hailey Bieberford example. So I bet

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you if you met Haley bieber and
you became her friend, or if you're

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someone who's known her for a long
time, you would realize that she's just

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like everyone else, and she's very
normal. And this is my experience with

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anyone I've met who if I followed
them before, i'd be like, oh

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my gosh, they're cool, but
then you meet them and you're like,

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they're kind of just like everybody else. So I definitely agree with that.

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But there are a couple of things
that I thought of that make somebody cool

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more like in a more normal sense, like people that I know in real

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life that I think are cool.
These are some common traits with these people.

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Yeah, I feel like it's not
cool in like, oh my god,

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they're awesome and I want to be
them kind of way. It's kind

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of just cool as in, they're
the kind of person I would want to

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hang around. Yeah, for sure. Okay, let's get into it,

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because I actually could think of quite
a few Okay, Okay, So at

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the end of the day, I
think that being cool equals being confident.

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Like the most confident or the most
cool people are the most confident people,

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the people that just kind of own
who they are, own their style,

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they don't care to change for other
people, and that if it's genuine.

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I feel like that is very outwardly
expressed and that's kind of like the energy

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that people think is cool. I
agree. I feel like so many of

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my points go back to confidence,
but one of my first is actually very

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closely related to this, and it
is dressing in a way that is authentic

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to you. I feel like if
you are someone who does this, then

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you're probably pretty confident, because people
who aren't confident, to me, are

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more likely to follow trends because they
want to fit in. And yeah,

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I think that you can still dress
in a way that is authentic to you

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and incorporate trends, like if there
is a trend that closely aligns with your

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style or you're like, oh,
I genuinely really like that, and I

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think part of this is you,
you know, incorporating that trend. But

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if you're doing it to fit in
because everyone else thinks it's cool, then

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I don't think that is very cool. Yeah. On a more micro level,

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I said that rather than following trends, look at vintage clothes or like

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styles that were popular, you know, twenty years ago, because that's usually

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how the fashion cycle goes, Like
the what was popular twenty years ago now

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is coming back, like compries and
off the shoulder and all that, so

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I like to look on Pinterest rather
than even TikTok because TikTok is like very

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generic. I think if you have
cool style, usually it's a little bit

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different than what everyone else is wearing. Like you're saying, I also said

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to stop shopping at generic clothes or
generic stores, like the ones that you

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find in them all if you can. It's cool to support small businesses or

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thrift in general, like better for
the environment, better to support small business

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and big businesses. And the other
plus side is that you have cool stuff

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that nobody has. I think,
especially when I was younger, one thing

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that was important to me, or
like it was talked about, was having

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clothes that nobody else had, and
that was like a cool thing. We

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were a uniform for most of school, but I remember people talking about that.

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So I think that that's a great
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be cool, you have different clothes, you own your style, and then

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you also support small businesses or thrift
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like a win win for everyone.
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Outfitters Brandy Melville that all sell similar
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like it's hard and probably to dress
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to you if you're only shopping at
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super like Boho, for example,
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at those fast fashion retailers, like
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like that at a thrift store,
for example. M I think a thrift

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store is a great way to be
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from a thrift store because then you
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to so many different styles of clothes, like some event's going to be horrible,

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but you'll find some gems and it's
just different stuff. I think that

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that's really cool personally. What's your
next point? My next one is caring

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about things. I think it's really
cool when people have interests and passions and

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they're not shy about sharing them,
even if they think that other people might

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not think that they're cool, because
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of being cool is not caring what
other people think of you, or doing

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what you want regardless of what other
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I think this is especially cool when
it's just like interests and passions that aren't

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super popular. Though, if your
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fine too, and just owning them
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is I feel like when we think
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and stuff, they aren't often portrayed
as people who really care about things.

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cool, but I think it's actually
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unapologetic with your opinions and values,
So like owning what you believe in.

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I think that caring about fit like
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is also really cool because I don't
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be cool if the right people are
talking about it, Like things become mainstream

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just by people talking about it.
So there's nothing that's actually cool or not

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cool, Like say, if you're
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never cool. Somehow it's not cool, like it's the same activity. I

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don't know what happened, but it's
just like people start to own it and

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be like, this is what I
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like, oh, I think that
that's cool. I admire that it's more

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of like the owning it that's the
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Agreed for sure. Okay, so
my next one is to be friendly,

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but not overly friendly, where you're
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So it's a fine line, like
be approachable, be a nice person,

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have a smile on your face,
but you don't have desperate energy,

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you know, Like I'm always trying
to make new friends, but if I

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don't click with someone, I don't
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Like it all comes back to being
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people will find you, like you'll
attract each other. But I always try

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to be friendly at first, like
nice enough, and then if I click

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with someone, I'll pursue the relationship
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friends with everyone. I don't care. Yeah, I agree with that.

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I think that when people are too
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And also if it's like you're changing
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group of people, that's not something
a cool girl would do. Yeah,

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it's very true. I also said
on the topic of other people, be

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nice to people who can do nothing
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cool thing, Like if this is
like a classic example, but if you're

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rude to a waiter, I think
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Like people that are ride to people
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that to me is horrible and so
uncool, like I can't even explain it.

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of that also relates to how you
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what other people think is cool.
Let other people enjoy what they want,

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and also recognize that you can learn
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a cool girl or a cool person
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they think is cool and what they're
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people for having different interests and also
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I think being judgmental is a sign
of insecurity, Like if you are happy

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with yourself and what you're doing,
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You kind of can just celebrate people
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threatened by them. I think it's
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everyone has a level of it.
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people down to make yourself feel better. Another friend related thing that I wrote

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down is have friends with a wide
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in a lot of different spaces so
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opinions and perspectives. I think that
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like, how do you explain this? Like, you are able to relate

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and talk to people who are different
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goes back to having friends that can
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of that, I think it's cool
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own friend group and aren't aren't like, oh, I have my own friends,

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so I don't need to talk to
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Like recognizing that you can converse with
people who aren't your best friends. Maybe

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they will turn into your friends,
maybe they won't, but you're just like

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open to that even if they are
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Another one I have on the topic
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like I've probably talked about this on
the podcast, but being able to rely

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on my friends is really important to
me. So I just said, being

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there for your friends, following through
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think that's cool. I don't think
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like, be a good person,
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have, and don't be so caught
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your self and the important things to
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you tell someone something You're like,
oh, I have this big test coming

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up, for example, and then
they text you and they're like, oh

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my gosh, how did it go? Like when they remember things about you

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because they have been listening to you
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I definitely agree. So the next
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what I wrote down in my notes, is if you can travel. I

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know that this is obviously easier said
than done. I just think traveling or

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being exposed to a wide variety of
places, people, cultures makes you a

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more well rounded person. So I
know that that's like a hard one to

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implement, like way harder than the
rest of them. But traveling, to

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me is something that I value a
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continue and also share with my future
kids when they are younger to you,

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like, I hope to be able
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something I really value from my childhood. Yeah, obviously this is a more

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difficult one to do, but I
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just taking the time to learn about
other cultures. So even if you

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can't speak about your personal experiences when
something like that comes up in conversation,

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you are able to talk about things
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if it's not like, oh,
this is what I learned about that,

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you're just not You're not shocked at
the information that people are telling you.

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You know, and you maybe have
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way because you've taken the time to
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the culture, or you've done your
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whatever it might be. I think, honestly, a lot of people

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don't even know where certain countries are, like which continent countries are in,

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how many continents there are, what
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I don't know if we don't learn
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one geography class, but we don't
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you kind of have to go out
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that in whatever way it makes sense
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cool. It makes you a cool
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the US, And for example,
I was talking to Darian about this and

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she was like, people genuinely think
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like almost year round, and they
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Toronto as it does here sometimes in
the summer. So that, for example,

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is something that isn't that difficult to
find out about, and you just

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seem more educated and worldly if that's
something that you know before going into a

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conversation. Yeah, definitely having knowledge
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personal life is super cool. Something
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I think reading is very helpful and
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like we're just saying, you're able
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you're someone who doesn't read or doesn't
consume information. Because, as you know,

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sometimes people are talking about things like
current events politics. If you have

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an opinion that is based in fact, I think that it's really cool.

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like say American politics, even if
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they're able to back it up with
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that's cool. We don't have to
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have something to say. Yeah,
that's something that we didn't mention when we

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were talking about opinions earlier. But
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things is when people are super opinionated
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up what they're saying or misinformation.
It's like, at that point it's better

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to be quiet. So I think
it's cool if you genuinely know what you're

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talking about. Obviously, some things
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opinion isn't the right word to use, because an opinion is something that you

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come up with on your own,
and when it comes to like fashion,

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you don't need to have facts to
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But when you are saying that something
is a fact, I think it's cool

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to make sure that you know what
you're talking about first. Yeah, it's

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mostly about controversial topics where this comes
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religion, money, like stuff like
that where people people are usually just

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avoid it because it's a rabbit hole
of sorts. Everyone has different perspectives or

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opinions. But I think it's cool
if you're able to talk about important topics

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in a way that is mature and
calm, and you have facts to support

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your opinions about things. I think
it's a very cool thing. Agreed.

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Another one that I thought of is
just being chill. We would talk about

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this phone on the podcast. But
it's important not to let the people control

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you. We always say you can't
control other people's actions, but you can

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control your reactions. And I think
it's cool to not let other people dictate

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how you feel all the time.
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it's also nice or cool when people
don't let things shake them, Like if

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you have the ability to zoom out
and put things into perspective, I think

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you're able to just live away more
chill life and then you're not a person

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who is high strung. And I
think yeah, Like you're saying, it's

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it's cool to be chill to a
certain extent care about important things, but

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if something is like not that important
in the grand scheme of things, the

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ability to move on is a very
cool trait. Our parents always say pick

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your battles. I feel like that's
something that they said when they were raising

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us. They're like, oh,
I'm not going to freak out about this

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thing that one of my kids did
because I'm picking my battles. I think

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it's. Yeah, it's important to
let some things go and just not to

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let other people have too much power
over you. Like you gain so much

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more control over your own life when
you approach things from a more calm place.

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this a lot. Yeah, Actually, in my relationship, I'm like,

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I am choosing peace. I'm not
going to do this thing. I'm not

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going to look at your phone because
I'm choosing peace. Like you just have

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to sometimes not get into fights,
not bring things up, let things go.

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If something happens, like you miss
your flight, don't let it ruin

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your day. Like you control how
much peace you have in your life at

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the end, of the day,
so don't let things affect you too much

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if you can. My next one
is to generally just take care of yourself.

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I think it's cool when people work
out, eat healthy, have their

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nails done. Lauren does our own
nails, so it doesn't necessarily need to

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be like a professional manicure, but
I think it's it's cool in this to

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care about your health and to a
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like some light makeup on and their
hair done, I'd be like, that

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person is cool, like they've got
their life together. And then I'd probably

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be like, Okay, I need
to start doing that. That would be

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something that like a trait that I
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ability to wake up in the morning, get ready and get on with my

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day. And I think there are
some things that just show that that person

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cares about themselves, Like if someone
seems well rested and they have a lot

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of energy, it's like, Okay, that person is making sure that they

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get enough sleep. And obviously there
are some things that you can't control,

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like some people simply don't have time
to sleep for eight hours a night,

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like they have a lot of the
they're working, they have kids, whatever.

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But I think as much as you
are able to making those choices for

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yourself, it's cool. Yeah,
prioritize yourself. Yeah. I just think

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it's cool to have things together to
feel and appear like you're not living in

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a stressful state, which is different
for everyone. But whatever you can do

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to make your life less stressful.
And I don't know, I guess it's

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just appearing put together, being put
together that personally makes me feel cool.

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When I can walk into a room
and feel confident because I did my hair

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and makeup and like, I just
know that I look good, like,

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it just makes me feel cool.
So that's something I would definitely suggest.

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It's funny because at first glance,
my next one seems contradictory to what you

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just said. But I agree with
both of these points. So I agree

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with what you said. But I
also don't like when people try to seem

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too perfect when you actually get to
know someone and you're trying to connect with

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them and they just won't admit that
they have faults, because no one's perfect.

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It's not cool, and pretending to
be only makes it more difficult for

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people to get to know you and
really connect with you because they just won't

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feel like they're getting to know the
real version of you. They'll feel like

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you are putting on a front,
which I think if you're trying to seem

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perfect, you kind of are.
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a personal level, you need to
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It's cool when you're able to connect
with someone as a friend or whatever.

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Like, you can't get to know
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cool, and I know it's hard, but I totally agree with that point.

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It's not even like having your hair
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It's appearing like put together, like
you've planned this out. Like.

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I think it's the intention behind that
that I think is cool. But appearing

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perfect in life is not cool because
nobody's perfect. Like you just said,

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yeah, I think, especially when
it comes to admitting that sometimes they're wrong,

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which is something I struggle with,
not actually like most people will do.

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I feel like I'm quick to apologize
about things when I realize I'm in

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the wrong, but I don't.
I don't love when people are like,

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oh, that was not my fault
at all in every situation, Like,

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sometimes it is your fault and it's
okay to admit that. Yeah. This

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is also hard for me because I
generally feel like I have done the right

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thing, So that's hard. It's
hard when you feel like you've done the

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right thing to admit that you're wrong. But it's usually not one hundred percent

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one person's fault. I think it's
usually somewhere in the middle. So agreed

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with that as well. My last
one is just stepping out of your comfort

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zone. I think it's cool when
people live a life that is dynamic and

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unique, and I always admire people
who are doing something different than the rest

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of their peers or like people their
age. I think, especially when it

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comes to career. If you think
about the people that you admire in a

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career sense, it's usually someone who's
like challenging the status quo or like doing

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something different. I don't know how
like other specific examples, but I would

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say in general and life, stepping
out of your comfort zone makes other people

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think that you're cool, and you
feel cool because you're doing something different and

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growing within yourself. Yeah. I
like that. That's come up a lot

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recently because I feel like that's important. We've been talking about it on the

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podcast. But definitely agree, and
I think that first the end of the

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episode. Yeah, that was a
great one. Hopefully you guys feel super

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cool. Before we go, Do
we have time for a quick life update?

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We have about four minutes, so
I actually have no updates. Really.

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I talked about my birthday and since
then, I've just been working and

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getting back into things. So you
take it away, Lauren, because you

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have more of a transition going on
right now. Okay, Well, Sunday,

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I moved into my hotel. It's
looking like I'll be here for three

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more weeks, but I'll keep you
guys update on whether that changes. But

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honestly, so far, it's been
kind of cool. I have been able

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to hang out with my friends a
lot, which is great. We're all

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pretty close. We're like not on
the same floor or anything, but all

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in the same hotel. And it's
also fun because we get to order food

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for like every meal or go out
for dinner together, so we've been doing

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a lot of bonding. It's just
nice to see everyone again, and I've

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had most of my classes. Now
I have a guitar class to where for

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the first time, But other than
that, I've had all of my classes

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and met some cool people. I
Actually, this is kind of a funny

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story. I met a girl in
my math class, literally the only girl

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in the class that I had talked
to because we were sitting next to each

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other, and I was like,
Oh, she's so nice. Whatever.

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And then later that day I went
to my stats class for the first day

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and I met this girl and then
she's telling me about her sister. She's

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like, Oh, my sister's really
struggling in this math class. And I

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was like, Oh, what math
is your sister taking? She tells me

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what math it is. It's the
only girl I met in my math class.

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Their sisters so weird, so weird. But anyway, I look alike,

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uh like kind of, I guess, but not exactly, Like I

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would never have known if they if
she hadn't said, but how did you

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figure out that they were sisters?
Because she was telling me about her math

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class and then I was like,
what math is she taking? And I

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was like, I'm in that math. And then I asked what her sister's

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name was, and then maybe I
knew her. I said, Oh,

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that's the only girl that I know. I was like, oh my god,

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I sit next to her. That's
so weird. Small world. Maybe

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you're vibe with their energy as a
family. So true. I can't wait

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to meet their parents. It must
be a sign from the universe. Definitely.

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Wow, how exciting. Yeah,
I'm trying to think if there's anything

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else eventful. Nothing's standing out to
me. There's like, there's not that

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much going on this week. It's
been a pretty slow week, no work

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yet, but there's a bunch of
of like frat rush events, so my

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friends and I will probably go to
that later this week. It just feels

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wrong to do that on a Monday
or Tuesday, so we'll see as we

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get closer to the weekend. Then
this weekend, I'm going to my first

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USC football game, which I'm excited
about. So I'll let you guys know

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how that is. How exciting sounds
like you're a real college girl. Now.

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Oh yeah, I'm going to Palm
Springs this weekend on a wellness retreat,

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so I will have some exciting updates
from that on next week's episode.

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More to come. Awesome. I
look forward to it all right. Well,

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that's it for this episode. Thank
you guys so much for listening,

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and we'll talk to you next week.

