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It is the Big Twelve breakdown,
Tom with Jon Statist. Bridge's here with

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you with the comprehensive look around the
Big Twelve conference and Tom the hot takes

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you. We usually begin each week
with I think that we just got to

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get right to it of these tie
breakers, and that's the I think the

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Big Twelve did the hot takes for
us this week with their own mess that

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is. I love this league.
I do. I'm glad that my school

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Kansas is a member of this league
and part of it going forward and everything.

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But I gotta tell you, Tom, it doesn't matter who's in charge,

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something always gets screwed up in this
league of some you know, bad

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decisions or mismanagement of some sorts.
And I'll say this, if Brett or

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Mark's ten years so far, this
was the biggest screw up we've seen yet

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the tiebreaker thing. And case people
don't know or put it in a nutshell,

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the rules were written of sorts with
a bit of confusion, a lack

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of clarity, and whether the Big
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were changed and to the correct rule. Might I add that would give Oklahoma

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State an advantage and head to head
over Kansas State and Oklahoma because they beat

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both those teams, and if Kansas
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beat Kansas as well. So that
is the right situation. But it should

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not have taken to this point.
This should have been worked out in July

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and August before the season began.
It's the right rule, Tom, but

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it shouldn't have gotten wrong timing.
I don't like changing the rule two weeks

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to go in the regular season,
but I think it kind of had to

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be done. I mean to be
it's not to be fair at all.

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They should have had this ship and
lined out way before, I think little

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and over their heads. And and
to be fair to the Big Twelve,

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I think as volatile as this league
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I think after red River, from
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imagined. And that's what's so great
about the Big Twelve. It's so hectic,

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it's so it's such hell on all
the fans. If you would have

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told me after red River or that
week, what the what the first Saturday,

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second Saturday in October, that we
would have been at this point right

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now, I would have laughed,
because it was at that point after red

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River and as good as that game
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you and Texas were you know,
beyond every there was there was OHU Texas,

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and then there's a little space and
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then there was tier two, and
then you could have maybe said K State

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and KU and then Oklahoma State wasn't
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maybe even in the Tier three,
or we might even been talking to them,

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you know, in the in the
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And now so much stuff has changed, I don't know that the Big

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twelve even considered or would have even
think to consider that this might have been

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a potential for like a five way
tie. Yeah, I mean it's been.

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It's been ridiculous, honestly. Now
more than likely, Tom, this

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situation probably will work itself out and
not be an issue. Something is going

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to happen more than I think,
more than likely. But I'm glad that

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at least has figured out. And
you know, I'm sure you and I

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both you know, we've been reading
social media the last couple of days.

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K State fans owe You fans,
they've been bitching, they've been upset,

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and I think Tom, two things
can be true at once, K state

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know, you fans have the right
to vent and bitch and feel the way

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they do to have the tiebreaker scenario
switched like it was, and to be

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gas lit by this conference to say
we didn't change the rules. We clarified

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them. No, you changed the
rules. Don't gaslight us. They have

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a right to be upset. But
this was a tough decision to make.

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I still think it was the right
decision. Though. I think it was

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the right decision because it makes sense. And you know, obviously I can

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say that in full faith because I'm
an OSU fan and I want them to

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go to Arlington. But at the
same time, like when you're gone your

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way, Tom, I knowing you
you would have been pissed. Yeah,

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maybe a little bit, but at
the you know, at the same time,

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as as something that is as I
can set aside, oh Shu has

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beaten those teams, and so kind
of in the in the in the sense

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that uh kind of going back to
like one call doesn't necessarily make a game

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when OU's like, well, Drake
Stoop's got fucking foul in the hands on

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and we're a bunch of fucking Walmart
fan cocksucker, bitches like most OU fans

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are. I don't even care about
that. I didn't get to say my

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piece about Bedlam because we skipped last
week and then I got and then I

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got somewhat humbled before I even got
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But that being said, it's like, okay, well, one call

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doesn't make a game, you know. It's like, okay, well you

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know what, Oh you cocksuckers win
fucking Bedlam. We're not even talking about

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this, right, you know,
K State beat O s U and oh,

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you look like dog shit all season
beat them. We're not even talking

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about this, Like when the games
are supposed to and then we're not even

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talking about this. It's like,
well, make the players. You're supposed

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to catch the balls. You're supposed
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that's past the marker, and oh, you probably ends up driving down the

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field and win and bed them.
We're not even talking about it. And

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I'll say this, like you're not
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this. I think they know it
too, right, they have, They've

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handled it with class. I'll give
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about this, no excuses or anything. That's all about what fans are saying,

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you know, and and you know, you got these ou people that

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are trying to call conspiracy, you
know, big trolls trying to stop us

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and all this, you know,
like get out of here, you know

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what I mean. Uh, it's
a little ridiculous, But nonetheless I think

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it's the right call. We'll see
how it all plays out, still a

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couple weeks ago, but it's certainly
going to be interesting. And so now

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let's, uh, let's look at
the where the team stack up in the

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playoff picture. Tom, Let's start
off with with Texas. They're the only

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team alive from the Big twelve that
can make the playoffs. At this point,

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they're at nine to one. They're
behind Oregon but ahead of Alabama.

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Alabama's looked really good as of lates. They look like a different team from

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when they face Texas back in September. Texas beat them by ten, of

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course in Tuscaloosa. This is my
fear, Tom, for Texas. I

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think that Texas, it's very obvious
they're not paying playing their best football right

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now. Everybody can agree with that. Texas does not look like what they

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did a couple months ago, and
you know, losing uh, you know

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they're running back Brooks for the rest
of the year certainly doesn't help either.

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With that said, Tom, I
am afraid for Texas's sake, that if

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alib Obama wins out beats Georgia in
the SEC title game, they are gonna

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jump Texas and that they would potentially
get the playoff spot over Texas. It

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wouldn't be right. I mean,
why play the non conference games, why

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play the head to ads? But
based on kind of the way the committee

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has been pulling things the first couple
of weeks here, something tells me that

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that Texas could be on the raw
end of the stick of Alabama finds a

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way to win out. If you're
a Texas fan, you're actually probably cheering

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for Alabama to lose some time down
the final stretcher. Well, you know,

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not even that you mentioned. You
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Look at the PAC twelve side of
things. If Oregon State goes and beats

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wash Washington and then Oregon, and
then Oregon goes and then beats Oregon State

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and then wins the Pactal Championship,
well, automatically their resume is going to

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be way, way better than Texas's. And if they have the same record,

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well you got to take at that
point, you beat an Oregon State,

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you know, you beat a Washington
team, and then you beat an

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Oregon State team or however you want
to match it up. It's like three

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top ten games. I don't see
Florida State losing, No, they wi

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the Ohio State Michigan winner is in, and Georgia is still a contender potentially

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speaking, and then Georgia Alabama.
Georgia, if they lose to Alabama or

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they went out, is still a
playoff contender either way. So there's only

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four seats at the table here Texas. They could went out and still not

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find their way into this playoff here. And despite that win against Alabama.

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The worst thing that could have happened
if Texas happened this past weekend when UCF

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shit all down Oklahoma State. That
that ruined their that ruined their you know,

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drink the schedule a resume builder potential
winning Arlington, Uh No, I

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don't know Lagins awaiting Texas the rest
of the way. Yeah, there's no

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yeah, exactly, there's no games
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or that are going to be as
close as the Red River, and they

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lost the Red River. You know, and now if if Texas is undefeated,

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we're probably not having this combo.
We're saying if they went out there

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in and you know they they they
for one, played very close against k

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State. That was a great game
k State. If they were a little

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bit better coach, if Colin Klin
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in the first half, problem,
i'mightd not be even having this combo.

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You know, they have they have
to go to ames Iowa at night on

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Saturday. A lot of people are
picking Iowa State. I'm a little hesitant

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to do that, but Jack tries, there is no shit they could do

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that. But I mean, we
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the rule change, as long as
Oklahoma State takes care of business. Hopefully

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if they beat Dana and then hopefully
they beat the Mormons, then you know,

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I still don't think Oklahoma we talked
about this before the show. I

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don't think Oklahoma State can beat Texas, even if they're you know, past

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couple of seasons record shows that OSU
could do it. I think Texas is

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too strong upfront defensively, and I
think they could stop Ollie Gordon and now

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make all the difference in the world. Doesn't matter though. If the resume

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is not there, it's not gonna
matter. I think the way the playoffs

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is going to shake out. I
don't think Texas gets in. I think

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we're gonna think so either. I
think Georgia wins out. I think that

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they're getting hot, they're playing better. I still even Obama's playing better as

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of late. I still like Georgia
more than Bama. I think Georgia wentz.

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I think Michigan is gonna beat Ohio
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I think they're a better team than
Ohio State is. And clearly this

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Harball stuff and Spygate, whatever you
want to call it, it just doesn't

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matter. I think it's all you
know. Did Harball deserve to be suspended?

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Yes? Will it stop them from
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No? I think that whether Harball
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whatever it may be, I think
Michigan's gonna be fine with or without

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him until he comes back. I
think Michigan wins out. So there's two

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Your spots. I think Florida State
wins out. They're only tough game left

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is a potential. You know,
they do take it back. Two couple

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games left at Florida in the Swamp
that won't be easy. Florida has played

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well in some big games this year, that's not a given. And then

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an acc Tyler game, probably against
Louisville, who's been one of the biggest

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surprises in the country this year.
I think Florida's probably finds a way to

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win out. Uh, you know, I trust Mike Norville. Yeah,

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Mike is a great job. I
trust him to win out. I think

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Oregon is gonna win out and they're
gonna beat Washington in a rematch in the

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pack teb table game. And I
it's clear the Committee likes them more than

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Texas and Alabama right now. And
you add a couple more big resume wins

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of Oregon State and Washington, that's
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be your final four time is Georgia, Michigan, Florida State, and Oregon

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and uh, Texas gets Texas to
Alabama ultimately miss out. Yeah, I

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think you're absolutely right, and I
think it'll be the only thing I would

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switch. I would take Ohio State. I'll go Georgia, Ohio State,

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Florida State, Oregon. Okay,
I think I think that's I think that

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we're looking at. I mean,
he could either go either way. Obviously

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we're both in agreements that whoever wins
the game is going to be number two

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and then the rest of it falls
in place. I mean, and I

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mean Texas, Texas obviously has to
win out, but they need a lot

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of help and it's out of their
control in terms of resume builders because Oregon

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has their last stretches. All that
all Oregan has to do is win out,

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and they should. They will be
in the only clear path to the

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playoff right now are the five undefeated
teams. Yeah, if you're I agree,

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if your Oregon, if you're Texas
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that you went out and you get
in. You might need some help,

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So now I agree. I do
agree though if Alabama, fine, if

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Oregon ends up dropping it dropping the
ball and Oregon States looks really good too,

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and I think Oregon State's like a
two and a half point FI favored

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against in corvallisis I mean, let's
just take a second and say that the

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NCAA denies James Madison the CFP bid
or even a bull bid, right,

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they deny them that. Yeah,
but College Game Day decides to go there

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instead of corvallis blasphemy. I mean
really, I don't think it is actually

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because ESPN knows they would not be
welcome in Corvallis based on how they've treated

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Organstein. I mean, I mean, I guess that's true. And they

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always picked that weird game once a
year, like what last year they go

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to Harvard, Yale or whatever they
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mean, I don't really care where
a college football pregame show goes. No,

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I know, but I'm like,
I do still feel bad for Washington

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State, Oregon State, and I
hope, I hope Oregon State, for

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what it's worth, hope Oregon State
just pulls it off and beats the shit

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out of everybody left the other big
big PLAYSU, the other big twelve teams,

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and the CFP pole. This week, oh U's at thirteen two losses,

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or actually at fourteen rather and uh
not the lowest ranked two loss team

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they are at Iowa. But there
are you know, we see they're behind

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Ole Miss and Penn State and Oregon
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further down, k State at twenty
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Kansas at twenty five. You know
the kind of odd that the committee put

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Kansas State above Oklahoma State. But
the committee, I think, only really

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cares about the top four rankings.
They don't really care about ranking the teams

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after the top six beyond that point. So you know what that said.

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I don't think it's too big of
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that. So let's leave the vig
twelve slate of games this week. Well,

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we'll break these down peace, pyt
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by game in the conference. Let's
let's get things started. Eleven am on

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Saturday, Oklahoma taking on by You
Owe you Big Favorites twenty four and a

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half on the road in Provo Tom. I think, oh you is glad

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this is gonna be a morning game. It's gonna be ten am in the

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Mountain time zone. And BYU has
played some really bad football as of late.

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This one, Oh you looked a
lot better last week. No reason

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why, oh you shouldn't win this
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And you know, I always say
you took a care of business against

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them last week. Interesting fact about
this game, if I'm not mistaken,

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earliest game Oh You has ever played
the second game, I can't think who

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it was against, but it was
obviously in on the West Coast area two

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thousand and two, by about four
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I believe, if I'm not like
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the earliest kick oh You's ever had, pretty creating. It kicks off local

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time I think at ten to ten. Yeah, that that's that's gonna be

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something. Uh and by You better
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have uh, some more kickoffs like
this in their in their very future.

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No more provo night games. Well
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after dark. Like that's the thing
that's gonna be wild for BYU and Colorad

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and some of these schools. Tom
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starts and then they're also gonna get
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it's gonna be pretty bizarre. But
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West Virginia is six and four and
they are Bowl eligible. And Tom,

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I don't see how our sweet Prince
Neil Brown in Morgantown next year. He

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had maybe the worst roster in the
conference this year and turned that to do

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a bowl team. And I still
have no idea how that old Bruce Webber

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handshake they might explain it. Good
for Neil Brown, if there's a twenty

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third Street brewing in Morgantown, they
better make him a meal. It better

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be a four course meal. And
after all, West Virginia has been through

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too with Huggy and all that,
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I mean, it hasn't been easy
in Morgantown these days, and that's a

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big accomplishment. I don't think they'll
have any problems with Cincinnati. The old

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Neil Brown blow job sandwich what that
means. Moving on to Baylor. These

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year's four and six, they're at
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Baylor at three and seven. I
know Dave Randa won a Big twelve

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title two years ago, but second
straight disappointing season, they're not gonna go

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into a bowl game, Tom.
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here. Could we be talking about
Dave Randa getting fired here in a

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couple of weeks. I mean,
he should be on the hot Seat's not

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talked about enough. I mean,
you know, when Baylor played I mean

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two not even well it would it
be it would wouldn't even be seven hundred

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and fifty days ago or less,
which seems like an eternity away Blake's shape

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and what probably truth freshmen at the
time. I believe played well enough to

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beat that Oklahoma State team, and
the defense played well enough, and it

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was the top of the world for
Dave Veranda. You know, they go

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on. I believe they. I
don't think they won the bowl game when

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they play Alabama, they played Old
Miss Okay, did they win? They

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did win the Sugar Bowl, didn't
they? And does that not seem like

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forever ago? I mean, I'm
sure for Dave Randa it feels like an

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eternity because that was the end of
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Oh yeah, that's yeah. I
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he never showed up. I don't
even can't remember where he even got drafted

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Tennessee. Uh Carolina was a third
round pick and then after they drafted Bryce

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Young, they cut him. He
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missing for a couple of days and
he never showed back up. Oh the

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old, the old stetson been a
bender. Yeah, I mean what what

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I mean? Yeah? That feels
like an eternity ago. And so you

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know, where does I think Dave
Miranda could And you know it wouldn't be

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out of the question that he would
deserve to get fired. I mean it's

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been the opposite turnaround and in a
in a very weird fashion, like he

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sold his soul to the Baptist devil
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Not to get too far off on
Baylor, because we've got other things

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to talk about, but that's a
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they have great facilities, You're playing
in the state of Texas, You're in

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a very good conference, the Big
Twelve. There's just no reason for Baylor

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to be a three to seven football
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Baylor should be a bowl team every
single year every All the resources are there

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for them to compete for bowl games
year in years and they were lucky to

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beat UCF And they're not even the
best they're not even the second best team

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in the I think they would beat
Rice, but I don't even think they're

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the second best team in the Dallas
manstro or. I guess they're not technically

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in the metro. But SMU would
beat this Baylor team, Oh of course

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absolutely, And TCU will beat them
this weekend OSU taking out Houston. OSU's

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a seven point favorites going on the
road there. OSU looking for a bounce

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back game after that debacle that happened
last week against UCF emotional win against OU,

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made your letdown last week. It's
real simple for OSU. Tom They

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got established the run with Oli Gordon. This was the first game that he

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struggled all year where the offensive line
didn't look good. I mean, that's

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the key that's been OSU's entire season. If Ollie Gordon plays well, they

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win. If they get Oli Gordon
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win this football game. But we
have seen Houston has despite the four and

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six record, they've given some teams
some scares this year. It's it's not

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a given that OSU just goes in
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Here. Houston has played up to
their competition at times they have and and

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you know, speaking of that game, Jones, I'm looking at his tickets

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right now for that game, folks, me and Jones might be there.

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We might reunite for our Texas tours, and it it's on Vivid seats for

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three dollars. Well, the fees
are worse, but I'm looking at this

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thirty yard line for fifteen rows up
for maybe forty a piece. I already

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told you I'd cover at least twenty
of it, so we might be going

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who knows. Yeah, you're you're
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in my homerism that OEU or sorry
OSU would have the pissed off feeling that

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that maybe OU did against West Virginia
and kind of boat race them real quick

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after the first quarter. I think
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You know what three pm kick there
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decent amount of orange that doesn't necessarily
matter a whole lot. But they won't

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be in uh, they won't be
out there in space like they were last

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week. But you have the team
that was in space, UCF taking on

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Texas Tech UF's first ever trip to
Lubbock. John Ryse Pumbley has played really

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good since he took over the starting
quarterback again. Texas Tech got away with

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a win in Lawrence last week.
I'll be frank, I was at that

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game. Texas Tech did not play
well. They got lucky that Jason Bean

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got hurt. That's why they won
that game. True, I look at

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that game, Tom like I think
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But going in Lubbock is never easy. No texts favored, but bow eligibility

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on the line and everything. I
feel like TCU is kind of the hotter

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hand right now. As has maguire
turned the corner and saved the season?

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Well, wouldn't They saved the season
because they had Bowl they had big twelve

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championship aspirations. And he's done enough
damage control to minimize his seat getting decently

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hot. Yes, yeah, and
more. Morton has another season under his

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belt. Morton's not bad. Morton's
what he's a? Is he a rich

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shirt sophomore? I think so,
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Yeah, so, I mean he
could get better. He could also

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end up being blake shaping, But
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt

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or benefit of the doubt now.
But I mean if this game was in

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use in Orlando, I'd probably have
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kid look like Johnny Mansdel last week. Oh that'll be a game I keep

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on kay U. K State Sunflowers
Showdown. Kansas has not won this game

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since Todd Resing was that quarterback of
Kansas. We've heard from lance lepol they're

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optimistic Jason Bean will come back and
play in this game. Prior to the

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injury, Jason Bean looked really good. This Kansas offense was rocking, and

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you know, they almost found a
way to win last week even with going

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to a third string walk on quarterback. Lance Lepold has done an incredible job

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with this Kansas program. You know, it's a night game, it's the

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biggest game in Lawrence in a long
time. K State's a good football team

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though, and they're playing for a
Big twelve title and everything. They only

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have two conference losses. To me, this comes down to quarterback play.

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Tom is for one, is Jason
Bean gonna play? And is he gonna

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be one hundred playing a high level? And how's Will Howard gonna look?

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Is Will Howard we've seen him look
great and we've seen him at times turn

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over the football too much. Either
what quarterback is going to play better?

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Yeah, that's that's an interesting fact. And that third string for kau what's

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his last name, Collared or yeah, he's something else. You know,

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Colts have a bye week, so
daddy is going to be an attendance,

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I'm sure Howard. Yeah, yeah, his his dad will probably be in

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attendance, and you know, maybe
they can uh maybe maybe they'll just you

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know, maybe if they want to
win, maybe they'll just sneak in Garner

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Minshew uh in the Ballard Jersey Maybe
maybe so, but uh, you know,

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with with k State two, I
think it's like a short leash of

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sword for Will Howard tom because when
we've seen Avery Johnson, their freshman quarterback,

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this kid's been really good and you
know he's he's the future like Will

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Howard. That's I think that could
be a difference in this as well.

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We mentioned quarterback play, like what
quarterback plays better? Will Howard doesn't look

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great like they have a really good
second option potentially KSE State does. Have

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we not said that one for a
couple of things here on Will Howard Will

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Howard is KSE State's Perry Ellis how
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It feels like somehow and I don't
I still don't know how I still

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I feel like I've been watching him
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At this point, I remember in
twenty twenty when people were calling for Skylar

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Thompson to be benched for this young
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but I mean, the past three
years have obviously felt like twenty almost.

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But at the same time, the
entire time that Will Howard's been there,

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and we say this about the Big
twelve basketball and how competitive is how deep

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it is. We say some of
the things, same things about the about

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one Big twelve in general, but
one of the consistent things we've always said

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about Will Howard as long as I
can remember, what Will Howard's gonna show

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up? Which one? Who we
got? We got balls balls out Will

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Howard? Or we got a little
bitch Will Howard? Which one are we

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getting? I mean, it's it's
you're either getting, like you know,

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you're either getting Will Howard the Dad
Dick's Oklahoma State forty eight nothing or you

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get the Will Howard that shits the
bed and throws three picks in the fourth

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quarter? Which will Howard? Are
we getting this week? That remains me

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seen? I uh my, my
my mind tells me k State. My

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heart tells me Kau and I hope
your heart's right. I think k is

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gonna come out hungary after a bad
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Do they rush the field this week? If they pull off the du is

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the goalpost going in the pond?
Oh? Yeah, it might be going

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to mass Street or something, you
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be Texas taking on Iowa States without
Brooks. I'm very intrigued to see how

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this Texas team looks. How does
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Quinn Yours the second game back.
Texas hasn't looked great the last couple

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of weeks. Iowa State, they're
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You know, they were kind of
written for dead, and everybody thought this

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could be the end for Matt Campbell
and all the scandal, you know,

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the gambling out all that, and
here they are, night game, it's

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on Fox, it's in ames.
Uh. This is is a total trap

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game for Texas right here at top
you know, Ames is where dreams go

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to die. It is the you
know they say the Iowa cornfields, and

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you know up there in Kansas,
Omaha, that little flyover state bullshit is

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the field of dreams. Well,
you go a little east and you go

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to uh Ames, Well that's where
dreams go to die. And uh,

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you know, if Sark Sark can
have his little cutoff blazer on or whatever

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he wears his little windbreaker bullshit,
and that might not protect him from the

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voodoo magic that happens at Jack Trice
Stadium at night in November. So,

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uh, Brett Auburn better have his
legs straight and won't be surprised if Iowa

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State wins by a field goal.
Yeah, woll SeeMe clintch else sets to

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join us coming up in just a
moment. Before we do, Tom Ad

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briefly. Want to talk to Big
twelve hoops here real quick. Let's start

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off with the Jayhawks here that beat
Kentucky on Tuesday night in the Champions Classic,

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a game they trailed by ten points
at one point. Hunter Dickinson goes

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off. Uh, he was absolutely
incredible. I think he's the best player

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in America. Kevin mccullor at a
triple double. Really big win for Kansas

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00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,359
and against I think a Kentucky team
that's better than most people realize. Seventeenth

407
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,359
ranked team in the country. I
think Kentucky's probably one of the top ten

408
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,559
teams in the land. You get
that done. Eighty nine to eighty four.

409
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:37,119
Coming out party for Hunter Dickinson.
That Kansas team. You know,

410
00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:39,960
I saw him in person last weekainst
Manhattan. They're not They're not bending down

411
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,200
for anybody. This this team I
think's without a doubt, the best team

412
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:49,240
in America in my humble, unbiased
opinion. I mean yeah, I mean

413
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,200
I've been a Hunter Dickinson fan for
a long time, and when he was

414
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,680
at Michigan and thought, you know, just watching him there, I thought

415
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:04,160
he was was incredible. And you
know, if if Kansas can harner,

416
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:07,960
you know, harness his power like
they did against this they can run that

417
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:12,920
all season, then I don't I
don't see why Kansas didn't. Going back

418
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,599
to the Final Four, a couple
more teams to talk about. Baylor had

419
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:22,079
a nice win against Auburn, a
game where they were an underdog in the

420
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,679
UH In that game in South Dakota
at that old school gym up there.

421
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:30,800
Last week they got to win there. They've won, you know, three

422
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,639
since then. They're four and oh
they look really good. Baylor's got a

423
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:38,599
couple guys that are projected to be
first round picks. Watch out Scott Drew

424
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:44,840
and the Baylor Bears are back once
again. I mean yeah, I mean,

425
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,800
you know, if their football team
is gonna be dog shit, well,

426
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:52,000
at least the basketball team can do
something. Are they the new Kansas?

427
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:59,679
It might be they might be the
big surprise. One of the biggest

428
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,159
I think shockers in the first two
weeks of college basketball this year has been

429
00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:12,760
the BYU Cougars. BYU, Tom
was picked to finish thirteenth in the Big

430
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:19,559
Twelve. And what did they do. They beat San Diego State, who

431
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:23,280
was in the National Championship game last
year, by nine, a convincing win.

432
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,559
Beat the crap out of Southeast Louisiana, beat the crap out of Houston

433
00:35:28,639 --> 00:35:35,039
Christian BYU is looking really good and
they've got the nation unnoticed. Andy Katz

434
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:38,199
says they're about a top thirty five
team. I've seen some you know,

435
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:45,320
football or some some basketball power index
that has them about somewhere between twenty five

436
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:50,360
and thirty. You know, of
all the realignment stuff we talked about Tom,

437
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,880
the things we were excited about,
you know, whether it was you

438
00:35:52,880 --> 00:36:00,119
know, Houston basketball coming in or
football games in provol Nowhere on my r

439
00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:05,760
was BYU basketball relevant in twenty twenty
three and twenty twenty four. But here

440
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:13,519
we are shout out Bartlesville and the
Hartstock boys BYU's back, right. Uh.

441
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:19,519
You know I saw at old SoC
boys there in high school, that

442
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,159
those guys could play. They did, you know, the you know,

443
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:28,320
they were the the More and the
LDS, Pride and joy of Bartlesviil America

444
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,880
and and went on and and one
of them got dunked on by Kawhi Leonard.

445
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,840
Uh. One of my favorite pictures
of all time when I when he

446
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:40,559
was on the Spurs obviously. But
you know what, b Yu's always kind

447
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:45,119
of been that, uh that,
hey, we're Mormon and we played like

448
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:50,280
a homeschool team. We play like
the the Noah kids, but we're somehow

449
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,960
still there. Uh. B Yu
has always kind of been that, hey,

450
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:57,880
we're pretty good. We're all white, but we're pretty good at basketball.

451
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:06,679
Still wrong though, Yeah, white
homeschool kids, but we can ball.

452
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:12,920
The Legend of jim Or for Debt
lives on. It does one more

453
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,400
team talking about here, real quick, Houston three and zero so far,

454
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:22,880
your number sixteen in college basketball.
But they've played a cupcake schedule. Houston,

455
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,159
you're not in the American anymore.
Start scheduling some real teams in non

456
00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:30,599
conference play. Come on, Calvin. What's interesting is Tom, they do

457
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:37,519
not play quality opponent till December one
in the Big East Big Twelve Battle,

458
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,000
which is mandated by the conference,
by the way, So it's not like

459
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:45,199
that they're being that this is out
of their own good will, like they're

460
00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:49,360
trying to schedule well, no play
Savior Xavior is a pretty decent team in

461
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,519
their own right here. In a
couple of weeks, they'll travel Cincinnati for

462
00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:57,079
that game. But Tom, I'm
looking at Houston, I'm like, this

463
00:37:57,159 --> 00:38:00,519
is the team we all want to
see, Like, come on, play

464
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:02,360
somebody legit here, Like you're not
in the American anymore? Wake cup here?

465
00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:07,039
Yeah, you know, I will
say too. You mentioned that,

466
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:13,280
and I think they definitely could and
cannot wait to see BYU Houston matchup,

467
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,159
especially now that by you has already
beaten San Diego State, who we were

468
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:22,960
thinking could have been our you know, our our white Rabbit in terms of

469
00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:29,119
West Coast basketball for Big twelve.
But a little off page thing about we

470
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,559
mentioned all these great teams. We
mentioned the the Noah kids, the homeschool

471
00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:39,440
kids for BYU, and mentioned mentioned
you know, we mentioned KU kicking ass

472
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:44,639
as normal, and you know,
I think k State even with Jerome Tank

473
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,880
and you know, they had some
injuries or that one kid that got kicked

474
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,679
off that they said it would be
a seat like he's called a season engine,

475
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,519
a season ending injury for that kid
who violated team rules or whatever.

476
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,519
Obviously not to be too homer,
but at the same time flip flopping for

477
00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:07,159
me when we talk about, you
know, hate ful eight teams. If

478
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:13,599
Mike Boyden does not take the Oklahoma
State Cowboys to the NCAA Tournament, I

479
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:17,400
think he should probably be let go. You know, I was thinking there's

480
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,280
probably something it's I think it's time. I think there's some big changes potentially

481
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:27,159
a foot Boyden's on the hot seat. I love him, I love him.

482
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:34,000
Porter Moser is on the hot seat. You know, watch out.

483
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:37,679
We could see some some big potential
changes in this league. And you know,

484
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,559
Texas Tech I think is gonna be
interesting because here's a guy in Grant

485
00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:45,679
McCaslin in his first year, coming
over from North Texas where he did a

486
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:52,840
hell of a job. And Texas
Tech fans are still all these years later

487
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:58,320
thinking about Chris Beard and you know, daydreaming about what Chris Beard did with

488
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,320
that program, and and I think, Tom that was an anomably what Chris

489
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,159
Beard did. It's gonna be hard
for any coach to ever. They probably

490
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:12,280
will never play a national title game
ever again at Texas Tech. Grant mccaslin's

491
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,320
gonna come in. I think he's
a good coach, he could do a

492
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:19,719
good job, but it's hard to
imagine him even coming close to the success

493
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,519
that we saw from Chris Beard.
There. Like, that's a that's a

494
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:25,800
tall task for a really good coach. He's set up for disappointment. And

495
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,119
I'll tell you who's really set up
for disappointment this year. No, No,

496
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:37,679
Huggy Bear and Morgan down this year. I can't even tell you who

497
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:40,760
their coaches did. They who they
get for their coach out there in West

498
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:49,280
Virginia. So West Virginia, what
they did for their basketball program? Uh,

499
00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:53,360
they ended up going with somebody that
was on Hugging's staff. Josh Ellerts

500
00:40:53,639 --> 00:40:59,800
who played for Huggy and he's still
the interim He was not named the full

501
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,400
time head coach. And from the
people I have talked to in Morgantown,

502
00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:07,840
there's still some people that think there
is a it's a slim, but it's

503
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:15,079
still possibility. Bob Huggins could be
back next year. There's no way that

504
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:20,000
would be the most West Virginia boo. Ever. If they bring him back,

505
00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:22,599
I think they should just I think
one of the stipulations should just be,

506
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,960
like give him a pint of moonshine
every game and just let him coach

507
00:41:28,039 --> 00:41:34,840
drunk his ship, Like, let
let Bob Huggins drink just enough where he

508
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:40,960
turns into Bobby Knight rest in peace. Maybe, uh, maybe Bob Huggins

509
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,960
would go to Texas Tech next.
I mean, you know, I mean,

510
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:52,960
I don't know if you can uh
brew uh brewer distill a liquor band

511
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:58,559
out of tortillas, But if you
could, Bob, you know, there's

512
00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:02,440
so much out there. Give him
that Bob stoops rock and roll tequila.

513
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:07,800
Yeah, there's so much room out
there in Lubbock. There's really nothing out

514
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,159
there, Uh, you know,
maybe they could set him up his own

515
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:15,000
like facility where he could just drink
and drive around the track out there,

516
00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:20,920
you know what I mean, there's
nothing out there. The only the only

517
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,599
thing that he could hit out there, maybe a couple of road runners,

518
00:42:22,599 --> 00:42:28,719
tumbleweeds, and a couple of coyotes. Just put him in a put him

519
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,679
in a fucking O six town and
country and give him a bottle and let

520
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:39,280
him go. Oh my gosh,
can Bob Huggins pick you up in an

521
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:45,559
O six town and country? Drunk
his ship leaving the downtown Lubbock bars?

522
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,679
Would you get in the uber with
Bob Huggins in a town and country?

523
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,480
And then uh, you get pulled
over at the b K drive through singing

524
00:42:55,559 --> 00:43:01,519
be okay, have it your way, O man, Let me get a

525
00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:07,000
let me a whopper, whopper,
double woffer. It's just you, pully

526
00:43:07,039 --> 00:43:10,400
h you pull up, but hug
he had that dui at the b K.

527
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,679
One of the odds. He was
singing the Big K song. If

528
00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:20,719
he was Burger King would have hired
him. By now, I mean,

529
00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:23,800
what does even order? Yeah,
I mean he could be I mean on

530
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:30,000
a tangent, but like he wouldn't
even talk about Burger King. What did

531
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,320
he even order? You know,
he thought what he was in was he

532
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:37,760
in Ohio? He thought he was
in Pittsburgh. Yes, that's like probably

533
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,760
two and a half hours away.
What did he even pull up in order?

534
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:50,079
And I'm more impressed that he made
it across like two states. My

535
00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:52,559
buddy Reid and I we were laughing
the other day, by the way,

536
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:59,760
the Kansas game that uh Bill self
is a spokesman for Wendy's in the Bacon

537
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:07,480
eight and there's a very clearly photoshot
photo of him just holding a baconator.

538
00:44:08,199 --> 00:44:15,800
And I'm like, I gotta know, like there's at least two trips to

539
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,960
the local Windy's to go get the
baconator for that to pay for Bill's shelf

540
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,880
every week? Right, Oh,
there has to be. There's I mean,

541
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,679
there's there's no other way. I
mean, it was good advertising at

542
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:35,000
work, Tommy, you better believe
postgame meal it was to the Windy's drive

543
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,079
to get the baconator. Was that
what you had? Oh? Hell yeah?

544
00:44:39,199 --> 00:44:44,519
Now Wendy's was better back in the
day when Wendy's was yellow. Yeah,

545
00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:46,880
when Wendy's does yeh? I think
to be as bad as that sounds,

546
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:53,320
I think that's probably the last,
honestly, I would. I mean,

547
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,880
I like the frosty, but everything
else, I'm like, you know

548
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:04,440
what rives were better when they didn't
leave the potato skins on him? Yeah.

549
00:45:04,519 --> 00:45:07,519
See, that was always like a
weird The only fries that should have

550
00:45:07,679 --> 00:45:13,400
potato skin are like the deli fries
that like the fucking Homeland. I mean

551
00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:19,000
when you were at Wendy's when it
was yellow back in the day and they

552
00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:25,599
had the sun roof going on,
uh you know where you were sitting there

553
00:45:25,639 --> 00:45:32,119
and you had your big yellow cup
and they didn't offer vanilla frosty or anything

554
00:45:32,159 --> 00:45:35,599
like that. If you ate a
frosty, you had a chocolate frosty.

555
00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:39,599
Dammit. I think they could have
a pumpkin spice frosty right now, Like,

556
00:45:39,639 --> 00:45:43,920
what the hell? What the hell
we doing Wendy's. It's like the

557
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,679
Wendy's lady and the Starbucks ladies start
having them, just a lesbian couple relationship

558
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:57,679
after the pumpkin spice one. Okay, THEO on that note, we'll bring

559
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,840
in Clint Chill. That on your
mind now, the Wendy's, the Wendy's

560
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,800
Lady and the Starbucks girl hooking up. I can't get that out of my

561
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:14,280
mind. Think about that baby,
I'd watched that. Oh lord, we'll

562
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,320
get his thoughts on this whole mess
of the Big twelve tiebreaker and talk some

563
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:22,079
cowboy football go around the Big twelve. When Clinton joins us, that's on

564
00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:28,360
the other side, stay with us, join us now on the program this

565
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,719
week, please, we welcome in
former Oklahoma State quarterback Clint shelf also with

566
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:37,199
the Oklahoma State Cowboys Radio Network.
Kid also in the podcasting game now as

567
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,920
well, and he joins us right
now. Clint, always pleasure when we

568
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,719
get the chance to chat a friend. You've had a lot of change in

569
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,599
your life since last time we talked. Pick grats on the new baby at

570
00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:51,800
home. Man, Yeah, I
have. I appreciate it. Yeah,

571
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,079
it's like every every middle aged white
guy started a podcast. I didn't actually

572
00:46:55,079 --> 00:46:57,880
start it, I guess, but
I got asked to do it. So

573
00:46:58,159 --> 00:47:00,199
yeah, I've got a podcast now
and then we'll we welcomed my wife and

574
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:05,639
I we welcomed our second daughter,
Carter, into the world, about six

575
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:08,239
weeks ago. So yeah, it's
been a whirlwind football season to say,

576
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,320
to say the least. Yeah,
no doubt, no doubt about it,

577
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,559
but certainly a big win for you
guys off the field at that front there,

578
00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:22,239
Clint, I got to start off
with the big controversy at hand of

579
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:31,199
this Big twelve tiebreaker situation as we
find OSU K State and Oklahoma jackeying for

580
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:36,840
position here and Texas of course at
the top of the standings right now,

581
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:43,119
what did you make the decision or
clarification that was made this week by the

582
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:49,480
Big Twelve office there. You know, that's a tough one, and I

583
00:47:49,519 --> 00:47:53,280
think ultimately what you want to do
is you want to get it right,

584
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:58,440
and you want to get the team
that's most deserving into the championship, and

585
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,880
I think that this does that.
I understand Kansas State and Oklahoma's frustrations,

586
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,119
but you had the opportunity to beat
this team on the field, and so

587
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:10,280
you know, I don't obviously being
on the right side of it, it

588
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,880
feels like for once at Oklahma State, it feels nice. But I think

589
00:48:15,039 --> 00:48:17,239
I think people are getting a little
bit too caught up and how it's come

590
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:22,800
about instead of what it accomplishes.
And I think what it accomplishes is getting

591
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:27,280
the right team on the field.
I understand, you know, the clarification

592
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,280
or the rule change or whatever you
want to call it. It was pretty

593
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,760
ambiguous wording. I felt like,
I feel like a lot of people read

594
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:37,559
it and kind of well, that
doesn't make any sense. So you know,

595
00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:39,719
the AD's met and seem to get
it all worked out. Of course,

596
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:44,800
none of this is going to matter
if if Oklahoma State plays the same

597
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,920
way it did this last weekend in
the following two weeks and loses a game.

598
00:48:49,039 --> 00:48:52,360
So it could be a moot point. But I think ultimately the goal

599
00:48:52,519 --> 00:48:58,599
was to get get it right,
and we've seen so often across college football.

600
00:48:58,639 --> 00:49:01,400
I think you just look at this
more the James Madison Jacksonville State ruling

601
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:06,360
not being able to play in conference
championship because of an archaic rule, an

602
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,719
odd rule. Ultimately, you want
to get it right for the student athletes.

603
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,559
The NCAAA didn't do it in that
case, and I think the Big

604
00:49:12,599 --> 00:49:15,480
Twelve did what most people think with
common sense, is the right thing in

605
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:21,960
this situation. Yeah, I mean, was it the correct path to get

606
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,199
there, maybe not, But at
the end of the day, it was

607
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:29,800
the best outcome the decision to decided
here, and you bring up an interesting

608
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,840
point about Okay, it doesn't matter
if Volklhoma State plays like they did last

609
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,880
week. Again, if you're the
Cowboys, how do you turn the corner

610
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:43,239
what last week would happened there in
Orlando behind you and shift gears to these

611
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,800
next two weeks? What is that
mindset like, not just for the coaching

612
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:50,880
staff but for the players to try
to forget about what happened last week when

613
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:53,559
everything went down the way it did
well, I think you said it.

614
00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:57,039
You forget about it. You watch
the film maybe one time, and then

615
00:49:57,039 --> 00:50:00,639
you burn it, you throw it
away. And coach Gundhy kind of said

616
00:50:00,679 --> 00:50:07,000
that, you know, they went
in with some game plan stuff that you

617
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,719
know, UCF just just had a
better game plan for. And this is

618
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,239
unfortunately a team who is who has
seen this before. Earlier in the season.

619
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,119
Obviously we got we got dominated by
by South Alabama at home, went

620
00:50:17,159 --> 00:50:22,519
on the road, played better at
Iowa State, which which turned out to

621
00:50:22,599 --> 00:50:23,920
be a team that is is pretty
good. You know, when when I

622
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,400
was watching him going into that game, we didn't think they were very good

623
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,920
because they were coming off a loss
from Ohio. Turns out they're actually a

624
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,079
good team. So it's not as
bad of a loss as it made it

625
00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:37,360
look. And uh and this team
then went on a run. So they

626
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,840
have experience with being able to have
a short memory, like a like a

627
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:45,199
shooter in in in basketball. You
know, you don't you miss eight shots,

628
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:46,840
you keep shooting. And so this
team, I think there's some veteran

629
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:52,519
leadership with Alan Bowman, Joe Mahalsky
who was sick last week. They've solidified

630
00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:54,760
the offensive line with Dalton Cooper.
I think these veteran guys are able to

631
00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:00,760
lead the program focus on what's ahead
of them and because their goals, especially

632
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,840
now with that clarification that we talked
about, are still in front of them.

633
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,559
Yeah. And you know the thing
for me, I look at Clint

634
00:51:08,199 --> 00:51:12,760
and all three losses for all s
U. This is a team that did

635
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,880
not run the football well at all
three losses and that's been their strength their

636
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,320
core all season long. With what
Anna Gordon has been able to do best

637
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,280
running back in college football this year
is just dominate with the run game.

638
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:28,079
There, what when when you turn
the page, when you go back to

639
00:51:28,159 --> 00:51:31,239
this week, how do you get
that back to what you were doing before

640
00:51:31,519 --> 00:51:36,159
of getting back to the run game, of being you know to what it

641
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,760
was previously. Well, I think
I think first and foremost, you have

642
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:45,280
to play complimentary football, right.
The defense has to be able to stop

643
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,400
plays, stop teams from giving up
chunk plays, and that's something that they

644
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,960
had a difficult time doing against UCF. And so this team is not built

645
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:59,119
to comfort behind. So the defense
has to play complimentary football and do their

646
00:51:59,199 --> 00:52:02,440
job and stop teams from scoring so
that you can establish the run and play

647
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:07,679
from e lead. This team has
not been a good team coming from behind,

648
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:13,280
and so you have to be able
to establish it throughout the game offensively,

649
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,920
but also with the defense doing its
job. Last week, honestly,

650
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:20,280
you see at UCF the offense was
moving the ball fine through the air.

651
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,480
They were able to throw the ball. It was a weird game. You

652
00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:25,840
had a three tipped i'd say two
tipped passes and then a really bad throw

653
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,599
by Alan Bowman. You had some
the turnovers, the fumble, then it

654
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,559
was a downpour and you're playing from
behind trying to run the ball and it's

655
00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:36,960
trying to throw the ball. It's
just really difficult. It was a weird,

656
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,119
weird game. I think that they'll
be able to establish the run.

657
00:52:39,519 --> 00:52:43,440
The offensive line had some issues last
week. I mentioned guys being sick.

658
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,760
I think it starts upfront with those
guys. When they're healthy, they've been

659
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:50,000
able to open up some planes for
Ali Gordon. Yeah yeah, certainly,

660
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:54,119
certainly this week you take on a
Houston team on the road that I know

661
00:52:54,159 --> 00:52:59,639
they're four and six, but this
is a Houston team that's made some noise.

662
00:52:59,679 --> 00:53:04,760
They've made life difficult case in Point
Texas U earlier this year, and

663
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,559
and uh, West Virginia got that
big win. There, Uh not a

664
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:10,960
team to be taken lightly by by
any means here. Do you think,

665
00:53:12,079 --> 00:53:16,239
uh, they're gonna they're this Oklahoma
State team is gonna have uh you know,

666
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:21,760
their their focus in Uh you did
a little wake up call of some

667
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,280
sorts heading into this Houston game.
Absolutely, you know. I think if

668
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:29,480
if anything last week, if there's
a silver lining, it's that you know,

669
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,000
it got the It got them refocused, right. You had a little

670
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,199
bit of a margin of air.
You could lose one of these games and

671
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,880
still most likely make the Big Golf
Championship. Unfortunately it was the first game,

672
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,719
so now you're your marginam Mayer is
gone. But I think it refocused

673
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,599
the team and You're right, this
is a dangerous team. It's a team

674
00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:49,000
that we are familiar with. With
Donovan Smith at quarterback. We played he

675
00:53:49,039 --> 00:53:52,840
started uh against Oklomba State two years
ago when he was it Tech. Obviously

676
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,320
we know the history with with Dana
Holgerson being one of our office of coordinators

677
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,920
and then the battles at West Virginia, but even going back to his day

678
00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:02,960
is pre o issue. When he
was at Houston as the offensive coordinator,

679
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,760
he gave Oklhoma State fits. So
if there's a guy that you that you

680
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,400
don't want to see on the other
side of the ball scheming up offensive game

681
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,440
plans after you've just given up forty
five points and gotten blown out, it's

682
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,079
probably Dana Holgerson. So the defense
is going to have their work cutout for

683
00:54:19,159 --> 00:54:22,639
him. They've got they've got some
really good wide receivers, Samuel Brown,

684
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:27,159
Joseph man Jack, a guy that
transferred from from USC back to Houston.

685
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,840
They've got guys, especially at the
receiver position, that that make you lose

686
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:36,719
sleep as a defensive coordinator. So
I hope that the thought would be that

687
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:42,079
this team refocuses and that loss is
something that we look as a kind of

688
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:45,639
a speed bump, but definitely have
their work cutout for him with a team

689
00:54:45,679 --> 00:54:49,840
that we're pretty familiar with as far
as coaching staff and a player too well.

690
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,599
And I look at this clin you
know, being a top twenty five

691
00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:57,119
team and you know, being in
the driver's seat to get to the Big

692
00:54:57,159 --> 00:55:01,239
twelve championship game. It's different now
for Oklahoma State going into stead of these

693
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:07,079
final games of being the hunted now
instead of being the hunter of some sorts

694
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:12,480
UCF that was a huge game for
them, Houston, huge opportunity for them,

695
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:17,199
b YU this upcoming week after this, All three of these opponents a

696
00:55:17,199 --> 00:55:22,320
totally different mindset than some of the
teams Oklahoma State was facing early on in

697
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,480
the season. Yeah, you're exactly
right. You know, after we lose,

698
00:55:24,519 --> 00:55:27,679
we lose to South Alabama, and
iways said, it was like,

699
00:55:27,679 --> 00:55:30,119
what do you have to lose?
Now you can just kind of go play.

700
00:55:30,519 --> 00:55:31,719
I think you saw that. That's
why they were able to go on

701
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,800
the run that they did. You
know, then you start you beat OU

702
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,440
and it's like, Okay, now
you're in the driver's seat, and that

703
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:42,119
mentality flipped a little bit and it's
like, just like you said, going

704
00:55:42,159 --> 00:55:45,480
from from the hunter to the hunted, and and it's always difficult when you

705
00:55:45,519 --> 00:55:47,840
go you know, UCF was their
space game, which is a big deal

706
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,239
down there Houston. It's going to
be their senior day. You know,

707
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,239
it's going to be an emotional day. And then and then you know b

708
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,079
YU the last game of the year, if we're still ranked, that'll that'll

709
00:55:57,079 --> 00:55:59,440
obviously be a huge game. So
yeah, you've got to you've got to

710
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,519
flip your your mindset back into trying
to be the hunter, right. You

711
00:56:02,519 --> 00:56:06,320
know, after you lose a game
like that, you've got to go in

712
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,119
there as players and say, hey, we've got to go out and be

713
00:56:08,199 --> 00:56:12,320
the aggressor instead of trying to you
know, maybe sit back and take it

714
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,079
a little bit. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Let me ask you

715
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:17,119
one more thing about Oklahoma State.
Then we'll look at the big twelve picture

716
00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:21,679
as a whole. Just what Ollie
Gordon has done this year, the way

717
00:56:21,679 --> 00:56:25,320
that he woke up and just went
on a tear there for that stretch,

718
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:30,480
you know, with everything, I
mean, what do you make of what

719
00:56:30,519 --> 00:56:32,679
this kid has done and the talent
that he brings to the table. I

720
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,599
Mean, we've seen some great Oklahoma
State running backs over the years. But

721
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,559
he looks as good as any of
them we've seen s of lay. Yeah,

722
00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:44,320
he's incredible and he's part of the
reason. You know, coming into

723
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:45,480
this year, a lot of people
would always ask me, you know,

724
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,119
what do you think of the team
this year? And I thought, you

725
00:56:49,159 --> 00:56:52,440
know, from what I had seen, I thought obviously that Alan Bowman was

726
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,039
going to be the starter and Allie
Gordon was going to be the running back,

727
00:56:55,079 --> 00:56:58,519
and that was kind of the assumption. And then you go in the

728
00:56:58,519 --> 00:57:01,199
first three games of the year,
all Gordon gets nineteen carries in three games,

729
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,880
Alan Bowman in a rotation, and
they lose a couple of games,

730
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,840
and it's and it's it's it's you
know, one of those situations where,

731
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,199
well, if you were doing this
from the beginning, where would we be

732
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:14,039
at. But at the same time, you know, maybe that helped build

733
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:17,239
some some leadership, some characters,
some toughness. So always been great,

734
00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:22,840
you know, twelve hundred and fifty
yards rushing, I think, still leading

735
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:28,039
the country after after a dud against
UCFU. But you've got to give props

736
00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:30,800
to the guys up front. I
think I think they were playing some musical

737
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,280
chairs. I mentioned Dalton Cooper.
When he got established at left tackle,

738
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,199
this offensive line really started started taking
off and opening up some holes for him.

739
00:57:38,199 --> 00:57:42,159
But he's a guy that doesn't need
much space, and as a big

740
00:57:42,199 --> 00:57:45,320
guy, it's really cool to see
his ability in the open field to stiff

741
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,039
arm guys and get out and kind
of open it up and run and score

742
00:57:49,079 --> 00:57:52,079
long touchdowns because he is a big
dude. So he's been very impressive.

743
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:55,440
We've been we've been pleasantly surprised.
Obviously, Like I mentioned, we thought

744
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,000
he was going to be the guy
going in and then he wasn't. And

745
00:57:59,039 --> 00:58:01,639
for him to rebound and have that
mental toughness to come out on the other

746
00:58:01,679 --> 00:58:06,039
side and then make a Heisman run
has been been awesome to watch. But

747
00:58:06,239 --> 00:58:09,559
Jelf John I guess for Oklahoma State
quarterback on the program this week. Clinton

748
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:15,199
on as far as the Cowboys go, I know that they you know,

749
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:20,880
it was unfortunate for them what happened
against UCF and everything, but still looking

750
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,840
back at that Oklahoma game a couple
of weeks ago, maybe it's something that

751
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:30,159
they enjoy more after the season and
for the years down the road of winning

752
00:58:30,239 --> 00:58:32,880
that last Bedlam game. I know
that they're not thinking about that right now

753
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:37,039
at the moment. But how big
a deal was that for for Oklahoma State,

754
00:58:37,119 --> 00:58:42,960
for Mike Gundy to get that last
Bedlam win and not knowing what the

755
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,800
future holds when they'll see Oklahoma again. Yeah, it's huge. I mean

756
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:52,719
the last one for at least probably
twenty years. You as Oklahoma State fans,

757
00:58:52,719 --> 00:58:55,519
you always get to hear about the
record and to have that kind of

758
00:58:55,599 --> 00:59:00,519
final, that exclamation mark, right, and this team, like you said,

759
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:02,280
they're gonna it's gonna be something that
you enjoy if you're a team.

760
00:59:04,199 --> 00:59:07,800
Oklahoma has built an incredible program.
They've been extremely dominant, and so when

761
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:13,599
you beat a team like that,
it means something. And and teams at

762
00:59:13,639 --> 00:59:16,760
Oklahoma State who do that are typically
remembered very fondly. Those are teams that

763
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:21,000
you know the players on, you
know the score. And so these guys,

764
00:59:21,719 --> 00:59:23,840
as someone who played in two very
close Bedlam games that we ended up

765
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,960
losing both of them right at the
end, it's a heartbreaker for me,

766
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,920
but it was great to see for
these guys because I know when you turn

767
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:34,559
thirty and you've got two kids,
what it can mean to you. You

768
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:37,159
know, if you don't win those
games. Yeah, and it may not

769
00:59:37,199 --> 00:59:40,320
be something they enjoy the moment right
now after, you know, getting pushed

770
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:45,519
around by UCF, but down the
line, it'd be something that's remembered for

771
00:59:45,639 --> 00:59:50,320
years. And so with that we've
seen, you know, in this shit

772
00:59:50,639 --> 00:59:54,599
changing landscape of college football, that
we've heard Oregon and Oregon State are still

773
00:59:54,639 --> 00:59:58,760
committed to playing each other as early
as next year. Same with Washington and

774
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,360
Washington State has made it known they
want to play Texas still, but Texas

775
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:08,159
hasn't agreed to terms on that idea
with OU and they re moved the SEC

776
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:13,719
and and OSU and this new changing
Big twelve. Obviously, you still have

777
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,360
to wait for an opening of sorts
for both teams contractually to be able to

778
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:22,119
play this game. But with the
way college football's changed, has that changed

779
01:00:22,199 --> 01:00:28,079
you think the mindset at all of
maybe any sense of urgency to have this

780
01:00:28,159 --> 01:00:32,159
game in the future. Do you
think we we CEU and OSU back sooner

781
01:00:32,159 --> 01:00:37,079
than later? It's still a while
before these two teams should meet again.

782
01:00:37,519 --> 01:00:39,239
Yeah, I mean, I think
it's going to be a while. With

783
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:45,599
the way conferences are going, you
don't want to add and a Power five

784
01:00:46,199 --> 01:00:50,280
out a conference game. When you're
playing that many conference games, you put

785
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,320
yourself at a disadvantage. I mean
that's just the number. Instead of playing,

786
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,559
you know, a team like we
can use stay in State and use

787
01:00:57,599 --> 01:01:02,639
a team like Tulsa instead of playing
and and fill that with a game like

788
01:01:02,719 --> 01:01:07,719
oh you for Oklama State. That
makes your life more difficult to get to

789
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:08,840
where you want to be. If
you if you want to try to get

790
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:13,000
to the twelve team playoff, if
that's your end goal, then that is

791
01:01:13,039 --> 01:01:15,880
not that that's shooting yourself in the
foot. And and so I think it

792
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,440
really has to revolve around what's smart
for the university, what's smart for the

793
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:23,800
football program. You know, it's
not just like you're scheduling any old team

794
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:29,159
to play, right and you've already
got at least in the UFL right right,

795
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,079
And I know we've already got scheduled
Arkansas, Oregon. We've got some

796
01:01:31,079 --> 01:01:34,519
of these big games out of conference
coming up. So why would you want

797
01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:37,679
to make your life more difficult?
Aside from all the stuff with the you

798
01:01:37,679 --> 01:01:40,159
know, if there's bad blood and
stuff and whether we should play it or

799
01:01:40,199 --> 01:01:45,199
not, it just doesn't make sense
from the end goal. Perspective of where

800
01:01:45,239 --> 01:01:47,920
you want to be. If you
want to make it to the Big Twelve

801
01:01:49,039 --> 01:01:52,039
or to the to the College Football
Playoff, then you you've got to You've

802
01:01:52,039 --> 01:01:54,960
got to watch out for yourself and
protect yourself. You see teams like Michigan

803
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,719
this year, I don't think they
played anybody in non conference, and so

804
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,760
if you're going up against that,
as a team like Oklahoma State where you're

805
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:06,320
already perceived to be behind them,
you've got to do everything you can to

806
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,719
try to help yourself and win games. Yeah, Alabama's playing what Chattanooga this

807
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:15,719
week? Yeah? I mean yeah, so yeah, I mean you need

808
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:20,679
those get right games to figure yourself
out. And so it's all about,

809
01:02:20,719 --> 01:02:23,360
you know, finding that balance of
sorts. Looking at just the Big twelve

810
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:29,519
race, we mentioned Oklahoma States games
ahead here, Kansas State get gets Kansas

811
01:02:29,559 --> 01:02:32,039
this week, and sounds like Jason
Bean is likely to just still play for

812
01:02:32,119 --> 01:02:38,079
Kansas coming back from injury. Owe
you with BYU and then next week Oklahoma

813
01:02:38,159 --> 01:02:44,960
with TCU, and then Kansas State
takes on Iowa State. Do you see

814
01:02:45,519 --> 01:02:50,679
uh there being a loss for Kansas
State or Oklahoma in these next two weeks?

815
01:02:50,679 --> 01:02:54,599
That make it a very clear path
or OSU to get to the Big

816
01:02:54,639 --> 01:02:59,280
twelve title game. Do they get
any help you think from those two programs?

817
01:02:59,679 --> 01:03:01,239
Well, you tell me, are
your Jayhawks gonna gonna show up for

818
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:05,440
us this weekend and it helped?
That'd be nice. But Kansas State has

819
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,519
been playing good ball, man.
I don't know. Yeah, I mean,

820
01:03:08,559 --> 01:03:12,199
I think it all depends on if
Jason Bean is one hundred percent or

821
01:03:12,239 --> 01:03:15,559
not, if if he doesn't look
the part. I don't see realistically a

822
01:03:15,679 --> 01:03:20,880
chance for Kansas to Kansas State.
Yeah, and and you know ou,

823
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:28,880
I feel like as much of a
situation where Oklahoma State lost to UCF and

824
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,880
hopefully that's a refocusing situation. I
think the same thing happened to them during

825
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:36,119
Bedlam. You saw him come out
last week, Dylan Gabriel scored eight touchdowns.

826
01:03:37,199 --> 01:03:39,960
I think I think they probably roll
these next two games. Kansas State's

827
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,039
got some tough ones, man,
Kansas And you say, Iowa State,

828
01:03:43,519 --> 01:03:45,800
do they finished with you know,
that's games finished the year for Yeah,

829
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,280
farm again, that's a tough that's
a tough game. And then and then

830
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:53,000
to make it even more complicated,
as as Oklahoma State fans know, Texas

831
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:58,400
has to go to Iowa stated in
a night game in Ames and that's that's

832
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,960
not a gimme. And and Texas
has you know, obviously losing Jonathan Brooks

833
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:06,880
to a cl uh tear last week. That's that's a big blow. So

834
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,480
you don't take those games for granted. And that would just mundy the waters

835
01:04:10,519 --> 01:04:13,159
even further, right, So,
uh, it would be nice if your

836
01:04:13,239 --> 01:04:15,960
Jayhawks would would uh would help us
out a little bit clear up the picture

837
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,039
for the for the Cowboys. But
at the end of the day, if

838
01:04:19,079 --> 01:04:25,679
what I saw on Saturday from Oklahoma
State repeats itself, then we'll be out

839
01:04:25,719 --> 01:04:28,039
of the picture anyways, because we
will lose one of the next two games.

840
01:04:28,079 --> 01:04:30,119
So they've got they've got to take
care of their own business before any

841
01:04:30,159 --> 01:04:34,440
of that other stuff even matters.
You mentioned the Texas situation with him losing

842
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:39,400
Jonathan Brooks. Let me ask you
about that, and just for that situation

843
01:04:39,599 --> 01:04:43,800
for a moment here you mentioned Iowa
State and then a rivalry game against Texas

844
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,000
attack Texas texts played better football as
of late. That's there, that's their

845
01:04:47,079 --> 01:04:49,280
Bettleum. You know, that's their
biggest game in a long time. They

846
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:54,400
don't know when they're playing ut again
and been hyping that up all season long.

847
01:04:55,119 --> 01:04:59,320
Texas hasn't played their best as of
late. Could we see the Horns

848
01:04:59,519 --> 01:05:01,760
drop one in these next couple of
weeks and they're playing for more than just

849
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,760
a big Jell title. They're still
right in the thick of the college fotball

850
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:09,920
playoff one? Oh, I think
absolutely. I think it's an absolute possibility.

851
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,639
I mentioned going up to Ames and
how difficult that is. We found

852
01:05:12,639 --> 01:05:15,639
that out in twenty eleven. It's
a tough place to play. Iowa State

853
01:05:15,719 --> 01:05:19,840
has got a very good defense,
as they usually do. I've been very

854
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:25,000
impressed with their young quarterback Rock Obeck. He's been able to make a lot

855
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,159
of plays and they can run the
football. So it's a tough matchup.

856
01:05:27,159 --> 01:05:30,519
And then you mentioned it that Texas
Tech game and into the preseason on our

857
01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:33,920
podcast. I thought Texas Tech in
Kansas State were probably going to be two

858
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:35,719
of the better teams in the conference. I thought they were going to be

859
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,599
up there with OU in Texas the
top four teams. We didn't see that

860
01:05:39,639 --> 01:05:43,679
from Texas Tech. They had a
tough non conference schedule earlier that we talked

861
01:05:43,719 --> 01:05:46,079
about going up to Wyoming and then
playing Oregon, who I think is one

862
01:05:46,119 --> 01:05:49,880
of the best teams in the country. Then they've had some issues at quarterback.

863
01:05:50,199 --> 01:05:53,960
But you're right, this is a
huge game for Texas Tech. They're

864
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:58,239
going to approach it with the same
mentality that we did against Ou and Bedlam.

865
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,719
It's going to be a huge game. We know the preseason remarks from

866
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,679
your Mark where he was there and
he said, I hope, you know,

867
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,760
hope I'm handing you the trophy over
Texas in a week whatever. So

868
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:12,039
that's going to be a very a
very charged atmosphere. And I could absolutely

869
01:06:12,039 --> 01:06:15,320
see Texas dropping one of those two
games. Well, and you know,

870
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:19,239
with Texas it's interesting because we mentioned
they're not playing the best football right now.

871
01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:25,559
Their final stretch with Iowa States,
you know, Texas Tech and then

872
01:06:25,599 --> 01:06:30,079
the big Twell title game. There's
not a big marquee win waiting for them

873
01:06:30,119 --> 01:06:34,280
as opposed to you know, looking
at take example like Oregon, who's going

874
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:40,760
to probably play Washington again, or
Alabama potentially playing Georgia in the SEC title

875
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:45,480
game. Here, could could we
see a situation Texas wins out and still

876
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,679
gets left out of the playoff picture? Here? You think, man,

877
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,719
that's a great question. I I
don't think so. I think that that

878
01:06:51,719 --> 01:06:57,480
that Alabama win is going to carry
enough weight. I think that they need

879
01:06:57,519 --> 01:07:00,960
Alabama to continue to win to make
their win look even better, which is

880
01:07:00,039 --> 01:07:05,119
kind of backwards because they're competing against
Alabama for that final spot. But this

881
01:07:05,199 --> 01:07:09,920
is this is one of the ultimate
scenarios that I've been looking forward to for

882
01:07:10,119 --> 01:07:14,199
years, where you've got you know, maybe a one loss or an undefeated

883
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,880
you know, PAC twelve championship team. You've got Michigan or Ohio State undefeated,

884
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,280
one of them with one loss.
You've got Texas with one loss,

885
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:26,639
Alabama with one loss, maybe maybe
Georgia would have one loss. Obviously,

886
01:07:26,639 --> 01:07:30,840
if if Alabama won the SEC championship
game, then you've got Florida State that

887
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,880
could be undefeated. And it's like, now what you do? And I've

888
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,519
been wanting to see this for years
to see, you know, how they

889
01:07:35,599 --> 01:07:42,000
how they filter through all that.
But I think Texas has has probably the

890
01:07:42,039 --> 01:07:45,320
best win in the country right now. Obviously, the game's got to be

891
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:49,079
played with Michigan Ohio State and then
you know, obviously the Alabama Georgia matchup

892
01:07:49,079 --> 01:07:54,800
in the SEC Championship game. But
I would be hard pressed, you know,

893
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:59,320
some teams, just just when you
talk about optics and brands, Texas

894
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,960
is the big right, and so
for them to get left out, I

895
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,960
would I would be hard pressed to
think that that would happen. Well,

896
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,639
and you know, I'll look at
this, Clint. You know, I'm

897
01:08:08,679 --> 01:08:13,800
no defender of Texas by any means, but just based on you mentioned optics

898
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:17,920
here, maybe they're not playing their
best football, but it's a collective body

899
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:24,920
of work. Just because that game
Anins Alabama was in September shouldn't change anything.

900
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:29,600
Maybe sure Alabama's playing great football as
it's late, but if that conversation

901
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,680
to be had, we we can't
ignore a ten point win on the road

902
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,680
like that. I mean, head
to head still has to mean something.

903
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:41,399
Why even play those non conference games
if you're not going to get credit for

904
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:45,680
it exactly? And that's and that's
kind of the point with the Big twelve,

905
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,920
you know, clarification, right,
head to head has to matter at

906
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:53,760
some point. If the team's actually
played each other in one team one then

907
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:57,239
they they have to get credit for
that, right and especially on the road,

908
01:08:57,319 --> 01:09:01,000
like you mentioned, I think I
think what will be interesting is the

909
01:09:01,079 --> 01:09:10,520
undefeated Florida State team. Does the
committee think that if Georgia loses in the

910
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:14,760
SEC Championship, are they fully out
because their loss is going to be against

911
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,880
a very hot Alabama team and they've
won thirty games in a row. Whatever

912
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,199
it's going to be. So,
I think whoever wins in the Pac twelve,

913
01:09:21,239 --> 01:09:24,640
I think Oregon is a really dominant
team. I think if they match

914
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,600
up against Washington again, I think
they win that game and then whatever happens.

915
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,000
Who knows what's gonna happen with the
Big Ten in Michigan with the sign

916
01:09:32,039 --> 01:09:38,600
stealing and all the distractions they're going
through. So I don't know, it's

917
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,720
going to be interesting. I'm like
you, I think that the Texas win

918
01:09:42,079 --> 01:09:46,800
should carry the most weight so far
in the discussions of who should be in.

919
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:51,800
Well, let me ask you about
the new Big twelve, the new

920
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:57,359
members that are coming in the four
corner schools from the Back twelve. We've

921
01:09:57,359 --> 01:10:02,479
already seen the opponents listed the matrix
for the next few years. What's,

922
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:06,319
uh, what's your takeaways on just
what the Big twelve is about to become

923
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:11,560
and uh, the schedule ahead?
What's what's kind of your thoughts there?

924
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,119
Yeah, I'm super excited. You
know, getting a personality like Deon Sanders

925
01:10:16,119 --> 01:10:23,720
into the conference is obviously huge.
Uh. The the conferences have become about

926
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,359
who can get the most eyeballs,
right, and that's a guy that draws

927
01:10:26,399 --> 01:10:29,880
a lot of eyeballs. Arizona.
There's been a little bit of a resurgence

928
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,199
there. Uh. They they've they've
certainly been playing a lot of good football.

929
01:10:32,239 --> 01:10:36,279
They which quarterbacks, the freshman blanket
on his name, Arizona States,

930
01:10:36,399 --> 01:10:40,439
trying to build something with Kenny Dillingham. We saw them earlier in the year.

931
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,720
Uh, they'll be a team that's
on the rebound, and then you've

932
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,600
got Utah, who you know is
probably going to try to come in and

933
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:50,520
establish that dominance. I think they're
the team that thinks, okay, we

934
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:55,319
can we can establish ourselves as the
new ou or the new New Texas.

935
01:10:55,399 --> 01:10:58,840
Right. They've got the physicality,
they've got the pedigree, they've got the

936
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:02,960
coach and Kyle Winningham. So I'm
super excited for it. I saw it

937
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:09,840
described as basically turning off the lights
with with the teams in the room and

938
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,960
having a knife fight and just whoever
comes out is going to be the champion.

939
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,439
Each year. It's not gonna be
the same team. It's just gonna

940
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,439
be you know, whoever, whoever
happens to be the last one standing.

941
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,079
And I think that's great. I
think what you're gonna see and I've started

942
01:11:21,079 --> 01:11:27,159
to see that. I saw a
tweet about some message board comments from teams

943
01:11:27,239 --> 01:11:30,039
like, you know, not the
big name teams of the other conferences,

944
01:11:30,159 --> 01:11:34,159
but they're gonna be at such a
disadvantage. It's interesting to me. I

945
01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:36,720
saw this comment is from a Minnesota
fan, and it's like, this has

946
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,920
just become an arms race and we
are in a conference. Yeah, we

947
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,399
get a lot of money, but
we still can't compete with you know,

948
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,840
Michigan, Penn State, Ohio State. And it's like, how much fun

949
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,920
would it be for us if we
were in the Big twelve and we got

950
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:51,800
to, you know, be a
part of that knife fight and have a

951
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:57,359
chance equal resources competing against teams that
are more on our levels. So I'll

952
01:11:57,359 --> 01:12:00,359
be interested to see if that sentiment
grows. But I'm I'm super ex for

953
01:12:00,399 --> 01:12:01,880
the teams that we have coming into
the Big twelve. Yeah, you look

954
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:06,119
at Oklahoma State next year, you
get Arizona State at home, who they

955
01:12:06,279 --> 01:12:13,039
just finished up a two game non
conference series with you taught home Tech at

956
01:12:13,079 --> 01:12:17,439
home West Virginia home road games A
BYU Baylor, Colorado, TCU, and

957
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:21,720
k State. That that's a tough
draw that Oklahoma State ended up getting for

958
01:12:23,039 --> 01:12:27,079
twenty twenty four of their first slate
in the new Big Twelve here. I

959
01:12:27,079 --> 01:12:31,079
mean, that's I'll be honest here, those nine games. None of that

960
01:12:31,159 --> 01:12:35,199
looks easy. I mean, even
Arizona State, credit Kenny Dillingham, they

961
01:12:35,239 --> 01:12:39,000
played a lot better football as of
late there. I imagine they're going to

962
01:12:39,079 --> 01:12:42,920
take another step forward there next year. Yeah, And that's what I mentioned,

963
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,279
you know, regarding the non conference
and adding ou add in our schedule.

964
01:12:45,279 --> 01:12:51,439
I think we start the home and
away with with Oregon either in twenty

965
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:57,960
four twenty five, I believe.
So you want to add an Oregon and

966
01:12:58,079 --> 01:13:00,439
that's that's I don't know if that's
next year or not, but I actually

967
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,760
I don't think it is. But
you added, say say whoever it is,

968
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,800
I forget who we're playing non conference
next year, but we've got you

969
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:09,239
want to add o you to that, and you want to add another Power

970
01:13:09,319 --> 01:13:14,159
five team to that. So yeah, I mean that that's Arkansas and TU

971
01:13:14,359 --> 01:13:16,039
in South Dakota State d next year, that's who it is. It's Arkansas

972
01:13:16,039 --> 01:13:18,880
next year, and then the following
year's Oregon. So you're gonna add Arkansas.

973
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:23,239
So imagine if you take what you
just read off, add Arkansas to

974
01:13:23,279 --> 01:13:26,199
it, and then add o you
to it. I mean, that's that's

975
01:13:26,239 --> 01:13:29,520
a schedule that you're lucky, you
know, to get above five hundred on

976
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,000
if you have if you have a
you know, an okay team, You've

977
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,199
got to have a great team to
get through that. But I'm very excited

978
01:13:34,239 --> 01:13:38,840
for for Utah coming into town.
Obviously getting to travel to new places,

979
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,880
to to be yu to Colorado.
You know, Colorado was a school that

980
01:13:44,159 --> 01:13:46,359
I just missed. We had we
had they had just left the conference right

981
01:13:46,359 --> 01:13:48,800
before I got there, so I
never got to travel up there and and

982
01:13:49,279 --> 01:13:53,439
go to Boulder and see the campus
and stuff. So I think all that

983
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,279
stuff is really great for the fans, being able to travel and see these

984
01:13:56,279 --> 01:14:00,279
new new schools and new places,
and uh, anytime you can get more

985
01:14:00,319 --> 01:14:01,479
eyeballs, like I mentioned with a
guy like the on senders, I think

986
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,680
it's going to be huge for the
Big twelve. Well, you know,

987
01:14:04,279 --> 01:14:09,600
I know the one concern not just
with Oklahoma State but really just this new

988
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:13,840
league as a whole is there's not
a ton of rivalries necessarily, with a

989
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,279
lot of you know, this league
being made of a shotgun marriage of sorts,

990
01:14:18,119 --> 01:14:21,560
only four locked rivalries. Oklahoma State
doesn't have one of the four.

991
01:14:23,079 --> 01:14:27,079
But you know, some of the
stuff, you know in this post Bedlam

992
01:14:27,079 --> 01:14:31,880
era comes naturally, and a lot
of it, you know, depending on

993
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:36,239
some great games that happened, or
maybe there's conflict within the games that can

994
01:14:36,279 --> 01:14:40,359
occur here. I know people have
talked about Oklahoma State and Texas Tech,

995
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:45,079
but that's not going to be an
annual game necessarily, Clinton. I mean,

996
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:49,880
the type of thing like rivalries you
can't just manufacture. We've seen that

997
01:14:50,079 --> 01:14:54,439
in some of these other leagues here. I think for Oklahoma State and others,

998
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,800
some of the stuff's just going to
happen over time. Something will develop

999
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,880
here absolutely, you know, I
was very shocked to see that Oklahoma State

1000
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:06,800
didn't have a protected game against Texas
Tech one. I feel like the similarities

1001
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:12,760
between the schools, we've had some
great battles within the last fifteen years.

1002
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,439
I was shocked to see that,
and also maybe even in that similar vein

1003
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:21,680
with Kansas State. Two ag schools
Kansas Oklahoma obviously, you know, share

1004
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,760
a border a lot of fans right
on the border between most schools that are

1005
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,920
in the agricultural side of things.
So yeah, I was shocked to see

1006
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,359
that. I think, like like
you mentioned, things will will develop naturally.

1007
01:15:31,399 --> 01:15:35,439
I felt like for years we had
a really good rivalry with Baylor,

1008
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:42,479
and that's kind of gone to the
way wayside a little bit. So those

1009
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,800
things pop up and it's fun to
see, you know, new things emerge.

1010
01:15:45,239 --> 01:15:49,000
I was really shocked to see that
Kansas State Iowa State wasn't protected as

1011
01:15:49,399 --> 01:15:54,680
I think the longest running game in
college football. So yeah, you know,

1012
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,600
it's sad to lose some of those
things. But like you mentioned,

1013
01:15:58,039 --> 01:16:01,199
some stuff's gonna happen on the field, and some stuff will happen, you

1014
01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:04,079
know, with with with the personalities
that are leading some of these teams.

1015
01:16:04,319 --> 01:16:06,760
You know, it just takes one
or two things being said and then it

1016
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:11,840
becomes a huge game. So I'm
looking forward to kind of the you know,

1017
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,760
the chaos of all of it.
Yeah, I mean, it only

1018
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:19,439
takes a couple of comments from you
know, coach Prime Uh or you know,

1019
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:24,960
any of them yeah, exactly the
last thing and then the one done

1020
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,760
this. You know, I think
this year would have been you mentioned you

1021
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,359
love the chaos going on with the
playoffs. This year would have been a

1022
01:16:30,359 --> 01:16:33,880
great year for this twelve team playoff, and you know, the Big Twelve's

1023
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:39,159
case, you're always going to have
a team there, but a little bit

1024
01:16:39,199 --> 01:16:43,159
of wiggle room of some sorts.
We have so many good programs now,

1025
01:16:43,279 --> 01:16:48,159
the Utah and Oklahoma States, Kansas
State's Balers of the world. The pressure

1026
01:16:48,239 --> 01:16:54,079
to win this league kind of I
think dies down a little bit because you

1027
01:16:54,079 --> 01:16:57,720
could probably be a one loss or
maybe even two lost Big twelve team in

1028
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,960
this new format and still have a
decent chance of making the playoffs going forward.

1029
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,760
Here, Oh, I couldn't agree
more. I think I think you've

1030
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:10,640
positioned yourself brilliantly from from you know, maybe not the conference that has the

1031
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:15,439
Georgia's, the Alabamas or the Michigans
Ohio States, but from top to bottom,

1032
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:17,800
it's hard to argue that it's not
not gonna be the best best league.

1033
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,279
I mean, I mean, certainly
obviously the Pac twelve is going away,

1034
01:17:20,279 --> 01:17:25,920
but above the acc you know,
Florida State regains dominance they'll have a

1035
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:29,159
top heavy team. But I think
the fun is going to be in year

1036
01:17:29,159 --> 01:17:31,359
to year when you get those great
TCU teams like you saw last year or

1037
01:17:31,399 --> 01:17:35,680
two years ago with Oklahoma State,
and then you can you know, parlay

1038
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:40,000
that into maybe one or two teams
like last year with Kansas State as well

1039
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,640
getting into the playoff with with the
twelve teams. The expansion I think is

1040
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,560
going to be great for a conference
like the Big Twelve. I think I

1041
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,560
think you're gonna be be locked into
that one team and then when you get

1042
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:54,520
that opportunity to have a team that
makes it through that gauntlet like you you

1043
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,880
listed for Oklahoma State. If you
make it through that and you have one

1044
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,439
loss, then you'll be in.
So I think that's gonna be the fun

1045
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,479
part. Well, plug away before
we go. What you got going on

1046
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:06,039
with the only shoot radio networks podcasts
all that stuff? Where can Bible follow

1047
01:18:06,039 --> 01:18:11,439
along? Yeah? Absolutely so.
So our podcast is called The Old Poke

1048
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:15,720
Show. It's on the OSU Max
network, It's on all it's on YouTube

1049
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,880
through the ISSU Max system. It's
on anywhere you get your podcasts, so

1050
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:24,000
check us out. It's mainly it's
primarily Oklahoma state stuff, but we do

1051
01:18:24,119 --> 01:18:27,359
have on. We try to get
a guest on from another school, whether

1052
01:18:27,399 --> 01:18:30,800
it's a reporter or beat writer,
to give give people a breakdown of the

1053
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,640
team that we're about to play.
So yeah, if you wouldn't mind give

1054
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,279
us a listen, check us out. We we try to bring some big

1055
01:18:36,319 --> 01:18:41,239
content each week, awesome stuff.
Clint appreciate. Time is always my friend.

1056
01:18:41,279 --> 01:18:44,239
Will catch up soon. Let's get
some more barbecue and t Town or

1057
01:18:44,279 --> 01:18:45,800
something soon. Man. Yeah,
man, sounds good. I appreciate it.

1058
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:46,479
Thanks for having me on.