WEBVTT 1 00:00:28.920 --> 00:00:41.159 Guilty. I'm guilty of liking the sunshine. Dennis fifty him this morning on 2 00:00:41.679 --> 00:00:46.520 Axes and Bros. In Formatt Shepherd the Michigan Sports Network. It's great to 3 00:00:46.520 --> 00:00:49.840 be with you here, taking you in the June. Here on this last 4 00:00:49.960 --> 00:00:58.000 day of Maine May, we're gonna dive into some Lions a Lions Maine. 5 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:03.239 Ben Johnson, speaking at OTAs yesterday, the Lions offensive coordinator, why he's 6 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:10.959 sticking around. He likes the sunshine of Detroit. Now. I you could 7 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:18.640 say that you have been waiting for years to bask in the sunshine of the 8 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:25.439 Detroit Lions. But that day that is now, it is the time. 9 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:26.760 I know they didn't win the Super Bowl. I know they didn't get to 10 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:33.799 the super Bowl, but as you know, last season winning two playoff games 11 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:38.959 and getting to the NFC Championship game, it does feel like you were living 12 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:49.640 in a a mine with no light. And now you're sitting out of the 13 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:53.879 beach in the Bahamas and that big globe in the sky, You're like, 14 00:01:55.000 --> 00:02:00.680 this is pretty nice as the water comes lapping up. That's what Ben Johnson 15 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:05.560 said. And no, it wasn't so long ago. I think about two 16 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:08.360 weeks ago. That you know. Dan Campbell said, is it Super Bowl 17 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:10.560 or Boss for the Lions? And a lot of people are like, wait 18 00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:15.199 a second, you know, let's give him a couple of years here, 19 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:23.439 But Ben Johnson, is he the best reason for the Lions if they are 20 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:29.840 going to win it this year to win it? Give me a reason that 21 00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:35.560 would be better than Ben Johnson? Where we start things out here eight six 22 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:38.560 six, eight three eight forty eight forty three on the Meer hot line talking 23 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:44.240 some Lions eight six six eight three eight forty eight forty three. You had 24 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:52.159 the Panthers best thing the Rangers in Game five of the Stanley Cup Playoffs three 25 00:02:52.199 --> 00:02:53.680 to two. Now Florida leads at three to two. They'll play Game six 26 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:59.319 in Minnesota coming up on Saturday. You get the Oilers and Stars. They're 27 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:02.960 tied at two. That game is tonight in Dallas. And then the Tigers. 28 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:09.599 They shut out the Red Sox at Fenway. Jack Flaherty flirting with a 29 00:03:09.639 --> 00:03:14.439 no hitter into the seventh inning, six and one third no hit ball. 30 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:20.080 He goes six and two thirds to kill Perdue, a kill Badou. A 31 00:03:20.120 --> 00:03:23.719 solo shot in the fifth was all the Tigers would need, and they're five 32 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:27.240 hundred. They win the game last night five to nothing, and they got 33 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:31.680 Kent Maida on the mountain tonight at seven to ten against Tanner. How now, 34 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:35.560 that's where we're at with the Lions, and we want to hear from 35 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:42.520 you me a best reason for them to win this year after Ben Johnson, 36 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:46.240 who will return. That's what we want to hear from you on. But 37 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:51.680 that's not all I've got the I guess it's kind of a trivia question out 38 00:03:51.680 --> 00:04:00.319 there for you. I'm looking for son, dad, combos that played in 39 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:03.960 the pros but with different sports. How many can we come up with this 40 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:08.319 morning? Eight six six, eight three, eight forty eight forty three. 41 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:11.000 That is to Meyer hotline. I'll slow that down for you so you can 42 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:16.240 take down the number eight six six, eight three, eight forty eight forty 43 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:23.360 three. First time callers are welcome. You can also get involved via the 44 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:30.600 text text sports radio one word no space between sports radio to twenty one thousand. 45 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:33.079 You get that prompt and we will read your text on the air. 46 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:41.360 That's how it's done. That's the way to get it done. Now you 47 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:46.079 know these OTAs, This is what we have right now to get to and 48 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:54.160 Ben Johnson It was a a predictable question, but also a good one to 49 00:04:54.240 --> 00:05:00.920 at least think about. Ben Johnson for the last two years has been a 50 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:04.600 name he could have left two years ago. I have the Carolina Panthers. 51 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:06.560 He can say, wow, I want the Carolina Panthers. Look, when 52 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:13.959 you get an opportunity, almost every coach that is a coordinator, that gets 53 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:18.279 an opportunity to be a head coach takes it. There are only thirty two 54 00:05:18.319 --> 00:05:25.079 of those jobs, and certainly you know about five to eight of them come 55 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:30.519 free every year, and those teams are usually in really bad spots. Now 56 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:35.040 there's a couple that can be different, and that's what Ben Johnson is banking 57 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:45.079 on. But you go in you think you're gonna have a number one pick. 58 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:48.680 You're taking your shot with your quarterback, like the Panthers did with Bryce 59 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:51.800 Young. Yeah, looking back on it, you know that's a terrible situation. 60 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:56.120 And you know, Young doesn't look like he's going to be a superstar, 61 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:58.279 at least right now. And so that was a good move. And 62 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:04.839 then last year, so Johnson he's around, and then last year happens and 63 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:11.720 this offseason the Commanders they got the number two pick again. You know, 64 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:15.639 you're sitting there and had Jade and Daniels pretty good defense last year, a 65 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:25.240 couple other nice pieces on offense. But he didn't take that job. I 66 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:29.959 didn't, you know, go through the whole thing into earnest And then what 67 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:33.839 was it the Seahawks were flying out to interview Ben Johnson. I believe I 68 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:36.439 had got this right. He called him up on the phone. Well, 69 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:40.800 they're, you know, thirty thousand feet over Montana and said, no, 70 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:44.040 you know, go ahead, turn that thing around. I'm staying here in 71 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:51.480 Detroit. What Seahawks flew in anyways and interviewed the Lions defensive coordinator, but 72 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:55.680 they were didn't like that, not getting that Seattle job anytime soon. But 73 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:59.480 out of the point here is that Ben Johnson. And then yesterday he was 74 00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:04.199 asked about staying around here after passing up head coaching jobs for two cycles in 75 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:10.839 a row, and he referenced Dan Campbell after the twenty twenty one season, 76 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:19.199 and Campbell some story like what did he say that the Lions are used to 77 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:29.480 being in the Arctic and dodging icebergs, and he promised that in a few 78 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:40.120 years it would be like the Caribbean was on the horizon and it does feel 79 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:53.399 like the Caribbean right now, those nice sandy shores, beautiful water, all 80 00:07:53.480 --> 00:07:58.680 of that where the Lions are at. So but it goes back to, 81 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:01.439 you know, Lions, and I was the first one to say, no, 82 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:03.959 it's not bust this year. It's the NFL. Lions have a really 83 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:09.959 good offense and they have the pieces in place to be competitive for a Super 84 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:13.720 Bowl. Whatever that window is, I certainly think two or three years. 85 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:16.800 And that's not only reasonable, I think it's, you know, two or 86 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:20.839 three years. I know, things can you know, slam shot. Things 87 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:26.040 can happen. And you know at Cincinnati they're sitting around talking about our super 88 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:30.680 Bowls wide open, our windows open for ten years. It happens all the 89 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:35.120 time where all of a sudden it gets slam shot pretty quick. But things 90 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:41.759 look as we sit here pretty good for the Lions. But you do have 91 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:50.840 Ben Johnson. You could make a case that Ben Johnson is a big a 92 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:56.159 reason as Dan Campbell. Campbell has to set the culture and the head coach 93 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:58.960 gets all the credit and everything else. You get a coordinator like Ben Johnson 94 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:05.919 and those guys are usually gone and they have had If it's a luxury, 95 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:15.519 our luck. They have had one of the best offensive coordinator coordinators with the 96 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:18.720 pieces around him in the NFL, and they're going to have that again. 97 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:24.440 That is the best reason for the Lions to win it this year. What 98 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:28.720 are the other ones? And I don't know, should the Lions? Should 99 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:31.840 you just be happy? Should you just be happy? That idea? As 100 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:41.000 a Lion fan? That idea straight ahead? 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I'm gonna a little 124 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:01.799 bit of a deal on the audience, as this has been a couple of 125 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:05.639 shows that I've done. Right now, I know all of you are not 126 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:13.039 Lions fans. I know one season hasn't changed everything across the state of Michigan 127 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:20.039 the last fifty sixty years. In fact, you know, I think that 128 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:26.960 the Lions, when it comes down to having a team in your state, 129 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:33.080 probably have more fans of other teams than they do with their own team because 130 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:35.559 of what they did for the last fifty years. Saved last year. So 131 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:41.200 I get that, and in fact, I don't know the exact breakdown, 132 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:50.120 but the further you go north, the more Packer fans that you have. 133 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:56.000 Probably more Packer fans in the up than there are Lions fans. You start 134 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:58.039 heading over to the west side of Michigan, you know, it could be 135 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:09.799 both Bears and Packers territory. And I know by hearing the text and hear 136 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:11.919 in some calls that there are a lot of Green Bay Packer fans out there. 137 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:18.519 I just you understand the Green Bay Packers have been one of and look 138 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:22.919 at their back in the mix again this year. One of the best franchises 139 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:26.720 in the NFL, the Lions have not, so I get that part, 140 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:31.679 but nonetheless I'm still asking you could be a Packer fan and answer the question 141 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:39.519 if you if you feel like this is the best year for the Lions too, 142 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:43.639 even though they have a window of a couple of years with having Ben 143 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:46.759 Jonson as their coordinator, is this the best reason for the Lions to win 144 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:50.519 it this year? What else would you put in that category? And then 145 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:56.320 I have the the question for you here as well, if you should just 146 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:01.039 be happy and you know it's okay to just say yes to this as a 147 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:07.279 Lions fan after what they did last year. And the reason I asked this 148 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:18.559 question is two weeks ago when Dan Campbell was asked about if it's super Bowl 149 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:20.679 or bust. You know, he sit in and look at it like that, 150 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:24.120 and so we all talked about it, and you know, I, 151 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:30.600 like you thought, no, it's not super Bowl or bust. It's a 152 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:33.279 multiple year window for the Lions. Here, well, I was listening to 153 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:39.519 a national host. His name's Lance Meadow, but he was responding to the 154 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:46.080 Super Bowl or bust for the Lions, and he he indicated that Lion fans 155 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:50.240 should just be happy, and his callers were saying the same thing. One 156 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:56.120 of these Lions fans talking about Super Bowl or a bust. This Meadows point 157 00:14:56.360 --> 00:15:00.440 was, is that the Lions last playoff win. He's just was going over 158 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:03.799 the numbers and he said, look, Lions fans, you had one playoff 159 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:11.000 win before this year in like sixty years, back in ninety one, and 160 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:16.600 then he broke out being to the postseason in consecutive years. And it's not 161 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:22.559 something that this is the part that I had not thought about following the Lions. 162 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:30.399 The Lions haven't been to the postseason and back to back years since ninety 163 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:35.679 three, ninety four, ninety five. So you know, damn there, 164 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:39.080 thirty years has been the last time that they've been the back to back playoff 165 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:45.240 years, and then they've only done it twice in sixty seven years. You're 166 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:48.600 gonna go back to the eighty two to eighty three season. You'll remember the 167 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:56.639 Lions missed a kick against the forty nine Ers Eddie Murray, and that touched 168 00:15:56.639 --> 00:16:02.240 off the forty nine Ers dynasty. But you know, three, ninety four, 169 00:16:02.360 --> 00:16:06.279 ninety five, those are the only two times in the last sixty seven 170 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:07.960 years that the Lions have been to the playoffs and back to back season. 171 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:11.159 So this metal guy was saying, look, Lion fans, you know, 172 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:15.879 enjoy what you did last year. You know, don't talking about boss if 173 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:22.600 you don't win at all. About being happy that you have a good team 174 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:26.600 and you're in the mix. Now. Look, you could say that's exactly 175 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:32.080 right, which I am fine with. Now I don't, you know, 176 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:40.799 to me, it makes the the urgency that much more. But I have 177 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:44.000 to be fair here, and that's why I put this olive branch out to 178 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:48.320 Bears fans and certainly Packers fans. Packers fans are used to having expectations. 179 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:53.639 Packers fans understand about winning the North and then you know, thinking about, 180 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:56.080 hey, this is a great chance to win the Super Bowl and then it 181 00:16:56.159 --> 00:17:00.639 not happening, and then you know, having to a job and having the 182 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:03.960 off seasons and going through the whole thing year after year, decade after decade. 183 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:08.240 They they've been up at the top. So that's when I ask a 184 00:17:08.279 --> 00:17:17.160 Packers fan, like Lions fans, we don't understand it's been fun in the 185 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:22.920 sunshine, like Ben Johnson says, but we've never been here before. We're 186 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:27.079 all like a bunch of mescobos that have just been transplanted down to the Bahamas. 187 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:30.119 We're sitting around on the beach like this is pretty fun, but we 188 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:36.799 don't know what to expect. I don't know. I've paused at different times 189 00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:41.720 in this offseason, and and so many times in years past, it's been 190 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:45.200 like, oh that this you know, this is how they'll blow it. 191 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:51.400 This is you know, why they're not a team that is considered one of 192 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:57.160 the one of the favorites. This is what they had. And most of 193 00:17:57.200 --> 00:18:03.680 the time it just came back to ownership that it will never change until they 194 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:08.279 had that for thirty forty fifty years. It had to do with the general 195 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:15.200 manager. Then throw the coaches and the quarterbacks in the mix. I mean 196 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:18.359 those four, those were the big four reasons. And then you know, 197 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:27.880 Sheila hamp dropped her surname good move, hired some Lions legends and was able 198 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:32.240 to put that in the rearview mirror. But her most important hire was Holmes, 199 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:38.279 and Brad Holmes is that's how that's how you change things. Owner, 200 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:44.039 general manager, coach, and quarterback. And the Lions with all four of 201 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:51.039 those are looking pretty good right now. But like this guy said, I've 202 00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:55.279 been in the postseason and back to back years. She's done it twice in 203 00:18:55.400 --> 00:18:59.079 almost seventy years. Should you just chill on? I don't know the super 204 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:03.960 Bowl talk? And again me not in you not being in this situation. 205 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:10.799 You know you shrugged your shoulders a little bit in years past when I when 206 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:15.079 I had Lions fans with nothing to but no foundation to stand on, it 207 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:18.799 didn't matter. Lions fans, this was their The off season was always like 208 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:25.960 and I know that they didn't care that people were saying, you're the freaking 209 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:29.119 Detroit Lions. What are you talking about? You know, you know, 210 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:33.000 win double digit games or you're gonna win a playoff game and the host of 211 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:41.000 a playoff game. So now you know the the sky being the limit when 212 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:45.880 it's actually in reach. You know, Lion fans who had built up the 213 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:51.839 false promise themselves now actually have it in reach. I don't know how you 214 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:57.920 talk to them, but did you just be happy about the situation that they're 215 00:19:57.960 --> 00:20:04.240 in. That's what we're looking for from you on Exis and Bros. This 216 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:08.160 morning eight six six, eight three, eight forty eight forty three. We're 217 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:12.680 going to read your tax coming up straight ahead. Have you got that Lion's 218 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:18.119 text or anything else that we've talked about this morning? 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I'm Dennis Fithian backing up 245 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:42.960 Matt Sheppard today and I've been talking about the Lions right now, asking you 246 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:55.480 the best reason for the Lions to win this year. Also, you don't 247 00:23:55.480 --> 00:24:02.359 have to be a Lions fan, but should Lions fans be happy that they're 248 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:08.960 in position to potentially make the playoffs again after only making the playoffs in consecutive 249 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:15.319 seasons twice over the last sixty seven years? Answer that one anyway you want? 250 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:18.720 Eight sixty six, eight three, eight forty eight forty three. That 251 00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:26.400 is the Meyer hotline Tech sports radio one word to twenty one thousand. Also, 252 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:32.200 we're looking for those sun Dad combos in the pros, but with different 253 00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:37.319 sports sports radio is one word text that to twenty one thousand. You get 254 00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:41.519 your prompt and that's the way it goes, and that's the way it's done. 255 00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:49.079 Eight oh one Hended Hooker at OTAs, we'll discuss the Allion's backup quarterback 256 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:55.079 coming up at eight oh one. Right now we go to the phones. 257 00:24:55.240 --> 00:25:00.480 Mark in gun Lake is on Exies and Bros. Good morning, mart Hey, 258 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:03.839 Danni's great job this morning. How you doing. Oh, I'm doing 259 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:06.839 good. Thanks for calling over there on the west side of the state. 260 00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:11.759 Yeah, it's beautiful this morning. I'm a bus drivers my last day to 261 00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:15.640 day. I'm thinking, yay, I'm going up north tomorrow. So but 262 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:21.200 anyways, I'm thinking, first of all, I like the Lions schedule. 263 00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:25.240 They got three of their first four at home and their only road games at 264 00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:27.759 Arizona. They should be able to take that. So I'm optimistic that they're 265 00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:30.200 going to go for and oh their first four games, and they got the 266 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:33.759 bye week and then they're going to go down to Dallas and demolish the Cowboys. 267 00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:41.079 But the father son thing is our beloved Lions. The I'm a rock 268 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:45.200 name Brown. His dad was a professional bodybuilder, So that's I don't know 269 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:48.720 if that's a sport for you, but it is to me, so we'll 270 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.279 think of that. I like it. It's creative and it's one of those 271 00:25:52.599 --> 00:26:00.960 Uh there's a few like big time wrestlers who's like James Larras who played for 272 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:04.240 the played for the Buckeyes. His dad was was it butter Bean, who's 273 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:07.920 a big wrestler. You know, you could you could say that one. 274 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:12.000 So that teitling works. And you know, I watched the I don't know 275 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:15.759 if it was a thirty for thirty or if it was some special with Amona 276 00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:18.480 Saint Brown and his dad, and uh yeah, his dad is every bit 277 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:22.279 of a professional bodybuilder, and and what an awesome guy to listen to. 278 00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:26.759 And you know that whole feature that was just great. And both of his 279 00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:30.599 sons they got great names. You know is uh, what's his other son's 280 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:36.240 Equamenius which is an awesome name, and then a Monro the sun God. 281 00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:38.680 And yeah, I like everything about Emona Saint Brown. You know, he 282 00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:42.880 was drafted later. He knows all of the whatever twenty seven wide receivers that 283 00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:47.640 were picked before him, and he just you know, he he can't he 284 00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:49.240 can't play any better than he's played in a couple of years here. Of 285 00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:52.200 course he was rewarded. But that's a great one. That's a great one. 286 00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:56.160 Mark. Yeah. Yeah, and you and if you think about you 287 00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:00.759 know, just like brothers in sports, what was it ten fifteen years in 288 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:04.880 hockey? Was it like Sutters or who was it that had like four or 289 00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:12.680 five brother kids? And the other shooters, the shooters have a ton Yeah, 290 00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:17.119 Hatcher suitors. I'm gonna be talking about brothers at one sport. I 291 00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:22.000 mean you could just go and I think the suitors might take the cake when 292 00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:25.559 it comes down to that, right right, Yeah, And I'm old enough 293 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:27.480 to remember all the way back to the Phoenix Suns where they had Tom and 294 00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:32.319 Dick Ben Eresdale on the team. Do you remember that or not? I 295 00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:37.079 don't, but were they were They're losing to the Celtics back then when those 296 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:40.759 guys were on the team in the finals. Yes, yeah, yeah, 297 00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:45.039 that's when they had that triple overtime game at Boston. I think Ben Eresdale's 298 00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:49.680 were on the team that year when Gar Hurt hit that overtime or that one 299 00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:55.200 second turnaround jumper from thirty feet or something like that. It was a crazy 300 00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:57.000 game. My dad and I was watching that on TV, and I wanted 301 00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:02.279 the Phoenix because they had two rookies. They had Alvin Adams and Ricky Sobers. 302 00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:06.319 I think those were the two rookies for Phoenix and they got to the 303 00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:08.839 finals and I'm like, Dad, how can you root against a team that's 304 00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:14.079 got two rookies in the finals. But yeah, the Celtics they had Collins 305 00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:18.079 and you know, all the other good guys and they finally won that. 306 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:21.279 So but I got to start my route again. Here. I'm a bus 307 00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:22.960 drivers my last day and I want to listen to you the rest of your 308 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:26.279 show. You doing great, and I hope to hear from you and talk 309 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:30.240 to you again sometime. Well, thanks for calling mark safe travels out there 310 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:36.680 getting the children to school, and only the extra special safe travel to you, 311 00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:38.559 and then enjoy your time heading up north. Man. I just sit 312 00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:45.839 around talking about going up north for an hour straight. My mom has a 313 00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:53.640 cottage around Claire, Michigan, and so for me, that's where that's where 314 00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:59.720 up North begins, at a lake called Bertha. We got about a million, 315 00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:03.440 Like I know, Minnesota they've got ten thousand, and we get ten 316 00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:06.000 thousand and one. I don't know exactly the number, but we get a 317 00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:11.759 lot and they're great and I love up North. And yeah, that gar 318 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:18.440 Herd jumper, that's like where Luka Dancis was just end up shooting his threes 319 00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:22.200 from in the in the first half a little bit closer, but that was 320 00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:26.960 like the first highlight that I remember. I don't want to say it wasn't 321 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:33.480 it wasn't color. There probably were some video prior to that, but it 322 00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:41.400 seems like for me that the suns and that her jumper was the first one, 323 00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:47.200 and that that overtime double overtime special that you're talking about that I can 324 00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:52.240 remember actually seeing the video in color. So that's a good job. Mark 325 00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:57.240 appreciate that. How about the text? Ben is monitoring the text Sports Radio 326 00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:02.359 all one word to twenty one thousand. How does the text look this morning? 327 00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:04.119 Ben, Yeah, we got one from Ron and spring Lake. It 328 00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:10.519 says Michigan get nine or ten wins. I feel like their defense will give 329 00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:14.640 the offense time to find their place. The Texas game looks like an early 330 00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:18.839 upset, which could make it nine wins instead of ten. And then he 331 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:25.000 has something about MSU. It says MSU Historically, Relish is being counted out 332 00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:30.440 and being the underdog. I think they will surprise this year. And with 333 00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.559 a new staff and new attitude, this makes it tough to predict their wins. 334 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.759 In my opinion, this is a building team culture year for Michigan State. 335 00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:41.920 And that's yeah, Ron and Springer Lake. You know, it's tough 336 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:48.119 to predict Ron and Bend and everyone else. Guys, if they just got 337 00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:52.839 so many new players. I follow college football as closely as anyone, and 338 00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:56.200 if you had a million dollars in front of me, it said ten, 339 00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.880 name ten Michigan State football players right now might be in trouble when it comes 340 00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.640 down to that. You know, so they would be they would be a 341 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.559 huge surprise. If they were a huge surprise. Seven to five sounds like 342 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.480 a huge surprise, a big surprise, I don't know, huge. If 343 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:15.519 they won more than seven games, then we would be getting into the territory 344 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.119 of, you know, huge surprise. Big Ten Coach of the Year Jonathan 345 00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:23.000 Smith, what a turnaround? What a higher Where does he go from here? 346 00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:26.720 Let's you know, let's go crazy that kind of stuff. Are you're 347 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:32.200 talking just eight wins? Seven wins? You might be thinking about that six 348 00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:37.480 wins, you feel good. You go down. Less than that, you're 349 00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:41.559 hoping that you see some kind of some kind of light at the end of 350 00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:48.279 the tunnel. Tunnel probably what's your quarterback? Chiles? The only thing that 351 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.640 I have to say about the nine or ten with Michigan, you're talking about 352 00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:59.200 an upset Texas is favorite of that game. And the whole thing about nine 353 00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:06.160 or ten nine wins is likely not getting you into that college football playoff. 354 00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:13.640 Now playoff if you've if two of those losses were against Ohio State in the 355 00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:15.759 final game of the year, and then the next week and the Big Ten 356 00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:20.640 championship game, you know, maybe probably get in with nine three loss or 357 00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:25.400 with three losses but three losses and no Big Tel Championship game. I would 358 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:30.240 say, outside looking into that twelve team playoff, ten wins is gonna get 359 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:37.039 you in if you're Michigan into the CFP, and that's what it's about, 360 00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:42.279 getting into the postseason, getting into the playoff. But twelve teams. So 361 00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.160 what you're saying when you say a nine or ten, you're saying it's either 362 00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:47.720 gonna be a good year or it's either gonna be a good year or bad 363 00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:52.480 year. That's what it's coming down to. If Michigan hasn't made a college 364 00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:54.519 football playoff, I can sit here right now tell you it's not gonna be 365 00:32:54.519 --> 00:33:00.000 a good year for them. Did not meet the expectations of things happen once 366 00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:02.839 the season gets going. They can make it feel differently about that, but 367 00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:08.759 that's how I feel about it right now. I like that text from spring 368 00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:12.599 Lake. What else, Ben, Yeah, this one's a question for you. 369 00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.799 It says, Dennis, what happens first the Red Wings win a playoff 370 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:21.200 series, Tigers win a division, Lions win the Super Bowl, or Pistons 371 00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:27.680 land number one overall? Go Irish. That's from Freddy go Irish. Huh. 372 00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:31.640 I didn't know we had a Notre Dame fan in our midst but that 373 00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:39.599 doesn't surprise me now that I think it over a little bit. So Pistons 374 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:45.279 the number one pick. You know, Wings winning a playoff series, the 375 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:52.279 Super Bowl and the Tigers winning the division, Well that's a you know, 376 00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:58.440 immediately I want to take the Pistons and just throw them. I mean, 377 00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:04.440 that would be miserable. You know they're going to be in the lottery again 378 00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.519 next year, but then you know, hoping I wouldn't want to bet on 379 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:13.679 that one. I think the Wings, Wings winning a playoff series, Wings 380 00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:17.920 winning a playoff series, Now they would have if they could have got an 381 00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:21.880 extra point, they only need one more point or two more points, whatever 382 00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:30.199 it was, they would have been playing the Rangers and they would have got 383 00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:35.000 swept, probably this year getting in there, so you see how far they 384 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:39.599 are away. But they get a goaltender and you know they got to be 385 00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:46.159 They definitely are on their way up. They are ascending. They need When 386 00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:52.280 you watch these conference finals, if you feel like they need at least another 387 00:34:52.920 --> 00:35:01.440 line of heavyweight players, you're not getting there with with with Larkin and Raymond, 388 00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:08.480 You're gonna need another You need three big time forwards in there that could 389 00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:15.519 score some size. But in a goaltender. Uh So, I would say 390 00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:22.280 the the wings Tiger has been in the division. You know the thevision is 391 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:25.559 there so much for the taking, at least you thought so. I thought 392 00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:32.039 so heading into the season looking at it. And that's a little bit or 393 00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:37.960 a lot of the frustration as the Tiger sit here at five hundred, but 394 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:44.119 being nine games back. The Guardians have been a gigantic surprise. But actually 395 00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:52.800 the Royals have been a bigger surprise. Kansas City with a excellent rotation and 396 00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:57.559 you know they they've got there. There's young players that are coming up big. 397 00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:00.800 It's gotta be a little bit of a marah with them. But look 398 00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:06.119 at him. Those are the the two biggest surprises in baseball are both in 399 00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:10.239 the central. No. That's why it's hard to be sitting here talking, 400 00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:15.920 Oh, the Tigers next year could be that surprise team. Better that with 401 00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:19.280 the tax? Are we looking for some more? We got one more in 402 00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.639 just now. It's about the father son combo. It says, how about 403 00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:32.119 Calvin Hill and Grant Hill. That's from John and gr Hill Cowboys wide receiver. 404 00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:43.400 And then the great Grant Hill, drafted by the Pistons. I believe 405 00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:46.320 it's the president. He's involved with the USA Basketball. He's not the coach, 406 00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:52.599 so is he the general manager? I like myself some Grant Hill. 407 00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.199 I like it when you get a little local flavor in there as well, 408 00:36:55.280 --> 00:37:00.719 bringing it around. So who is that one from? John and gr John 409 00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:05.639 and gr Nice job, John. I'm with you on that one. So 410 00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:10.079 there's a couple different combinations, And that was one of those when I thought 411 00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:17.880 of this, the dead Son combos, different sports, but professionals that did 412 00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:27.440 come to mind, the Calvin and Grant. You know. Another one that 413 00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:34.440 immediately came to mind, at least for me was Popeye Popeye and his son 414 00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:40.599 Seth Popeye Jones, the Dallas Mavericks winning last night getting to the NBA Finals 415 00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:46.440 against the Celtics. One of their former players, a MAVs alum, Popeye 416 00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:54.159 Jones. His son he named Seth, and Seth turned out to be an 417 00:37:54.199 --> 00:38:00.119 excellent hockey player. Little NBA NHL professional Seth Jones, who plays for the 418 00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:06.639 Chicago Blackhawks now drafted by the Columbus Blue Jackets. There's another one for you. 419 00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:09.159 Eight six six eight three eight forty eight forty three on the Meyer hot 420 00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:15.159 Line eight six six eight three eight forty eight forty three. Yeah, the 421 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:25.880 the Lions schedule was a big reason that was put out there by Mark and 422 00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:30.079 gun Lake that he thinks that the Lions could get it done this year, 423 00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:34.800 starting out with the Rams. I don't know if I agree. Like he 424 00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:42.840 was talking about four and oh, it feels like when a team bests the 425 00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:45.800 team the year before, beats them in a championship game, beats him in 426 00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:53.679 the playoffs, that team has that motivation and plays the next year's game with 427 00:38:53.800 --> 00:39:00.000 that revenge for righting the wrongs of a season to go. Feels like I'm 428 00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:06.519 sitting here telling you that I like the Rams on opening night at Ford Field 429 00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:12.320 to take down the Lions, just based on that here today, a lot 430 00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:21.599 of things can happen before the opening of what is September the eighth Sunday Sunday 431 00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:27.840 Night game. Wow, Lions starting it out taking on Matt Stafford again and 432 00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:32.800 the Rams. What the little uh little sobering thought this morning for you. 433 00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:39.000 I like the Rams in that game based on that revenge factor. I like 434 00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:45.159 that part. Then they get the Bucks who they beat last year. There's 435 00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:49.079 that revenge factor again. No, No, I think they're gonna go with 436 00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:52.920 to No. So I think they can get the Bucks. But I do 437 00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:55.920 think that they're gonna lose one of those first two. But and I would 438 00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:59.320 think it would be the Rams. But I think they'll get the Bucks at 439 00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:06.559 the Cardinals, I'm with you. Victory Seahawks, a team that beat the 440 00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:13.119 Lions two years ago, and here they are. That's another prime time game. 441 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:19.599 Love it. It is another primetime game, two out of their first 442 00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:30.280 four in primetime. So before that bye, when I played the schedule game, 443 00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:35.239 I had the Lions winning eleven games. I would have to go back 444 00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:39.119 and see Mark talking about four and oh. Was I think in two and 445 00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:42.960 two. I'd have to go back and look, but I'm thinking eleven wins. 446 00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.960 But you know, I'll tell you what if the Lions start four and 447 00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:52.519 oh heading into the bye week, it feels like I might start planning a 448 00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:59.559 parade route. Guilty of being premature, Guilty of feeling like the Lions would 449 00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:01.800 be going to the super Bowl at that point. Guilty, I'd all, 450 00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:07.119 if you come up with thirty more charges against me, I would be guilty 451 00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:12.239 of all of that. So the Tigers have climbed back the five hundred. 452 00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:15.559 In a way it's good and in a way it's bad. 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