1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,919 Hello, my friends, It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show, coming to 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:11,320 you from Studio A. Here at Proven Winners Color Choice Shrubs with Stacey Hervella 3 00:00:11,599 --> 00:00:16,879 me, Rick weisst and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Today we talk 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:24,039 about ip M. Now, IPM is not a technology company. The acronym 5 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:31,199 does not stand for International Plant Manufacturers or Investment portfolio Manager. No. IPM 6 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:38,240 is integrated pest management. It's a science based decision making process that combines tools 7 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:44,600 and strategies to identify and manage pests. In my opinion, Stacey, if 8 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,679 you were to look up a synonym for IPM, it would be two words 9 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,640 common sense. Would those were the words I was going to guess you were 10 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:57,159 going to say, And I could not agree more. And you know, 11 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,240 I think people hear the word IPM are they might be familiar with it from 12 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,680 you know, other things that they might have heard. But the simple fact 13 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,799 is that there is no better way to manage any kind of pest. And 14 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,840 this isn't just for the garden. This is also for household pests. YEP. 15 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:18,239 What IPM basically is is learning everything that you possibly can about the pest, 16 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,879 know thin in an enemy and learning everything you can about it's life cycle, 17 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,480 what it eats, where it lives, where it shelters, when it 18 00:01:26,519 --> 00:01:32,799 reproduces how many times, and then using that information to craft a management plan 19 00:01:33,439 --> 00:01:37,439 that's actually based on the pest behavior, not just your behavior, not just 20 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:42,040 your reaction. Because when you take an IPM or integrated pest management approach to 21 00:01:42,079 --> 00:01:46,879 your problems, you're not just putting a band aid on the problem. You 22 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:51,000 are truly resolving the root of the issue. Yeah, exactly, And I'm 23 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:57,959 glad you mentioned indoors also because one of the issues with IPM is to set 24 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,840 action thres threshole. When are you going to take action? You know, 25 00:02:02,159 --> 00:02:06,239 you think of the person who spots a spider in the house and it's like 26 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,800 burn the place down, you know, take some crazy action. So setting 27 00:02:10,879 --> 00:02:17,520 action thresholds, monitoring an identifying pests, and we should be out there monitoring 28 00:02:17,879 --> 00:02:23,319 three hundred and sixty five days out of the year, regardless of what your 29 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:29,120 climate is. Like. Prevention so things like crop rotation or the health of 30 00:02:29,159 --> 00:02:34,719 the plants to make them less susceptible, and then control and evaluate the proper 31 00:02:34,759 --> 00:02:42,000 control method for effectiveness and risk. In other words, avoid taking a shotgun 32 00:02:42,039 --> 00:02:46,080 to approach absolutely and you know, going back to what you said about observing 33 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,919 and identifying the past, this is so important. And you know, we 34 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,120 hear from so many gardeners all over the country who say, I want to 35 00:02:53,159 --> 00:02:57,479 preserve the beneficial insects, I want to preserve the pollinators. But unless you're 36 00:02:57,479 --> 00:03:00,000 out there actually looking at what's in your garden, don't know what is a 37 00:03:00,039 --> 00:03:04,960 beneficial insect, what's a benign insect, and what's a pest insect. And 38 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,039 a lot of times, especially when it comes to insects in the garden, 39 00:03:07,039 --> 00:03:12,879 and it's important to understand that IPM does not simply deal with insects or animals. 40 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:16,159 It also includes you know, fungal, bacterial diseases. Even to some 41 00:03:16,199 --> 00:03:22,599 extent one could argue viruses. You aren't going to know what's good or what's 42 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:28,360 benign. And with bugs, sometimes you'll see damage and the insect will actually 43 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,719 only be active at night, but the bugs that you're seeing on the plant 44 00:03:30,719 --> 00:03:36,319 are beneficial insects that aren't causing the damage. So it really does take a 45 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,560 lot of you know, commitment to understanding the problem. But for me, 46 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,360 that is I don't even want to say, half the fun, because that's 47 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,840 all the fun. I love researching this kind of stuff, and this is 48 00:03:47,879 --> 00:03:53,439 why I have so many facts about things like moles and bats and other insects, 49 00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:58,599 because I just I love learning about it and figuring out how I can, 50 00:03:58,719 --> 00:04:03,400 you know, alleviate the problem through my behavioral changes and through understanding you 51 00:04:03,439 --> 00:04:08,439 know how those how those animals live in function within my world. Yeah. 52 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,960 It is a matter of your behavior, yes, and paying attention to it, 53 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,120 you know, Stacy. I was, I was in a home depot 54 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,800 the other day and this guy recognized me, and he had a can of 55 00:04:17,879 --> 00:04:21,839 bug spray in his hand, and he he sticks the can of bug spray 56 00:04:21,879 --> 00:04:25,600 in my face and he says, is this good for bugs? And I'm 57 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,360 like, no, it'll kill him, right, I love it. Yeah, 58 00:04:30,399 --> 00:04:34,319 So you've got to pay attention to your personal behavior now, Stacy, 59 00:04:34,319 --> 00:04:40,360 as it relates to IPM, here's my opinion as a general homeowner. You 60 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,319 know, the science can be kind of blinding for people and kind of difficult, 61 00:04:44,319 --> 00:04:46,439 and some people don't want to get that deep into the weeds. Right, 62 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,800 So my opinion is this, first of all, putting a plant in 63 00:04:50,959 --> 00:04:58,040 the right place for that plant sunshade, whatever it may be, is one 64 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:03,360 step of IPM. This the second part is plant diversity. I believe monocultures 65 00:05:03,399 --> 00:05:09,680 are a big problem. I love all the varieties for example provided by proven 66 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,519 winners, color choice shrubs, and how these plants have been developed to be 67 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,519 diseased resistant, let's say, or heat resistant. Diversity in your landscape, 68 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:26,639 I think is one way a homeowner can simply practice IPM definitely. And you 69 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:30,000 know, having a diversity of plants not only gives you a kind of hedge, 70 00:05:30,319 --> 00:05:33,000 no pun intended against big issues, you know, any kind of big 71 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,839 fungal disease or pest issues that might come into your garden. It also looks 72 00:05:36,879 --> 00:05:41,560 better and it gives you more to look at, gives you multiple season interests 73 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,759 rather than just a one hit wonder garden that looks amazing in spring and is 74 00:05:44,759 --> 00:05:47,120 then boring for you know, the rest of the season. There's so many 75 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,879 benefits to it, and you know, certainly pest control as one of them. 76 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,800 And there was a huge, very sad, vivid example for many people 77 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,639 in the US when we lost elms as street trees. You know, we 78 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,720 elms were a very common sat rightfully, so they're elegant. They're beautiful. 79 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,079 And you know here in Grand Haven, for the couple of surviving elms that 80 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:10,160 we have, I always when I see one think, oh, imagine if 81 00:06:10,319 --> 00:06:13,600 Dutch elm disease had not taken all of these out, what our city would 82 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,639 look like. Now we do have a diversity of street trees. Now that 83 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,920 helps protect us a bit. Unfortunately, some of those elms were replaced with 84 00:06:19,959 --> 00:06:26,560 ashes, but with as trees. But you know, the diversity helps prevent 85 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,240 a large scale of catastrophe like that from happening again. One way to also 86 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:36,800 manage IPM integrated pest management, in my opinion, is to pay attention to 87 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:43,920 GDD, which is growing degree day accumulations. Helps you anticipate problems when they 88 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,160 come along, whether it may be a pest, and again it doesn't necessarily 89 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,319 have to be an insect. It can be a disease, it can be 90 00:06:49,399 --> 00:06:55,480 a weed. GDD helps us in here in Michigan we have something called a 91 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:00,600 GDD tracker. I'm sure probably in your community you have it too, but 92 00:07:00,639 --> 00:07:04,480 it helps us anticipate, for example, the emergence of Japanese beetles in summer 93 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:12,160 and helps us possibly using repellent type sprays that will help with your roses or 94 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,800 other plants that are susceptible to Japanese beetle. I think that that is one 95 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:25,319 key Also so as it relates to IPM, biological controls are one facet that 96 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:31,079 we can use natural enemies. Cultural controls are also another one. For example, 97 00:07:31,759 --> 00:07:36,560 again, let's say you do have a lawn area in your yard. 98 00:07:36,959 --> 00:07:42,399 If you raise the deck on the mower, simply doing that and providing shade 99 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,959 to the crown of the plant, you're going to use less as far as 100 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,680 pesticides, weed killers and that sort of thing is concerned. Mechanical and physical 101 00:07:50,839 --> 00:07:57,160 controls. We can do that also traps and hand picking, and then of 102 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,800 course chemical control. Chemical control is a part of IPM, but we're using 103 00:08:01,879 --> 00:08:07,720 it in a way where we apply the chemicals in a responsible way, in 104 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:11,759 a way responsible and when they will be most effective. You know, it 105 00:08:11,759 --> 00:08:16,240 reminds me of a conversation we had a couple weeks ago with a listener who 106 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,519 said she had a huge issue with chiggers, yes, and really didn't want 107 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,560 to use pesticides, but chiggers are biting her and her family and her pets. 108 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,839 And you know, of course I totally understand and appreciate people who don't 109 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:31,040 want to use chemicals, but you know understanding that a chigger prevention program is 110 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,480 not going to be spraying every week for the entire summer, that it's going 111 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:39,519 to be targeting that phase where using growing degree days, we know that the 112 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,200 eggs have just hatched and they're in that first instar or baby stage where they're 113 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:48,799 going to be the do the most damage to you and your family, and 114 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,399 if you can treat it, then then that alleviates the need to do more. 115 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,120 So it's really about applying them responsibly in terms of how you actually do 116 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,639 it, and the when is a really important part too. So there isn't 117 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:05,120 a simple solution to IPM or a one fix fixes it all. It's a 118 00:09:05,159 --> 00:09:09,679 matter of education. It is, truly, I think you can think about 119 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,759 it very similar to organic gardening, which organic gardening is not an issue of 120 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,480 you know what you do and don't apply in your garden. Organic gardening is 121 00:09:18,519 --> 00:09:22,440 an entirely new approach to your soil, to your garden, to your ecosystem, 122 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,840 to your garden goals, And similarly, IPM is just a totally different 123 00:09:26,919 --> 00:09:31,559 way of approaching the challenges that you face in gardening, and instead of just 124 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,879 going to buy the can of bug spray and calling it good, you're taking 125 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,000 on that responsibility. You're learning about it. And to me, there's just 126 00:09:37,039 --> 00:09:41,440 this sort of you know, magic that happens when you start seeing yourself as 127 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:46,080 part of this bigger world, not the boss of it. No, I 128 00:09:46,159 --> 00:09:52,480 agree, So I wrote a limerick to celebrate the occasion. The creepy crawlers 129 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,879 on this stem are engaged in plant mayhem. I need something common, sensible, 130 00:09:58,279 --> 00:10:03,080 something a bit more defensible, maybe consider IPM. I need something that's 131 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:09,759 attainable, an action that is explainable. Self control I need to master in 132 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:15,919 order to avoid disaster. I'm trying to be sustainable. So let's all get 133 00:10:15,919 --> 00:10:22,559 a head education and continue to learn throughout the course of the year about IPM. 134 00:10:22,799 --> 00:10:24,720 I love it, you know I will be me too. Plants on 135 00:10:24,759 --> 00:10:35,120 Trial coming up next here on the Gardening Simplified Ship Proven Winners. Colored Choice 136 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,200 Shrubs cares about your success in the garden. That's why we trial and test 137 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,240 all of our shrubs for eight to ten years, making sure they outperform everything 138 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,679 else on the market. Look for them and the distinctive white container at your 139 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:54,360 local garden center. Greeting's gardening friends, and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified 140 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,200 Show. It's the time of the show. If we put a plant on 141 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,799 trial, that is to say, we're going to tell you all about one 142 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,519 of the three hundred and twenty plus proven winners Color Choice shrubs, and you 143 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,759 get to decide if it's going to earn a spot in your garden or not. 144 00:11:05,919 --> 00:11:09,960 But before I launch into today's plant on Trial, I did want to 145 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,000 address something that you said earlier, and that's that you said, in this 146 00:11:13,159 --> 00:11:18,080 case, IPM does not stand for investment portfolio managers, although I think that 147 00:11:18,159 --> 00:11:24,279 as gardeners we could potentially make the case for ourselves as investment portfolio managers. 148 00:11:24,279 --> 00:11:28,960 Depending on how many plants we have in our garden, they could constitute a 149 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:35,240 significant investment portfolio. Well said, you've got to manage your portfolio. That's 150 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:41,720 what that's right, Investment plant man, plant investment manager or something like that. 151 00:11:41,879 --> 00:11:45,519 Anyway, I'm sure a lot of you also understand that feeling, because 152 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:46,720 you know, when we garden, it's hobby time, and it's you know, 153 00:11:46,759 --> 00:11:52,159 we invest a lot of our time and money into our gardens and hopefully 154 00:11:52,159 --> 00:11:54,960 they're pulling their weight and worth it, and if they're not, well, 155 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,600 that's where IPM comes in, so you can figure out those problems. And 156 00:11:56,639 --> 00:12:01,120 you know, there's so many resources now. Before I know, when I 157 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,399 was in horticulture school and the internet was barely a thing. You know, 158 00:12:03,399 --> 00:12:07,240 we had these huge, thick books on our shelves. That was an investment, 159 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,440 you know, and that was how you learned about everything, was looking 160 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,799 it up in books. And now you can find pictures from all over the 161 00:12:13,799 --> 00:12:16,960 country. This is what this pest looks like on this plant here, And 162 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,559 you know, it's just never been easier. So to me, there's really 163 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:24,879 no excuse for taking a one size fits all approach to problem control. Not 164 00:12:24,919 --> 00:12:28,519 only those books Stacy, but also the school of hard knocks just experience, 165 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,720 right, Yeah, and once you get zapped by Japanese beetles one summer, 166 00:12:33,759 --> 00:12:37,279 you start to learn about, well, how am I going to manage this 167 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,639 problem? And yes, you've put an investment in these plants. I mean 168 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,080 I've got a green thumb from all the currency I've handled that garden centers and 169 00:12:46,159 --> 00:12:50,279 greenhouses, buying more plants. Yeah, there's more than one way to have 170 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,759 a green thumb. That's for sure. But speaking of green, today's plant 171 00:12:52,759 --> 00:12:58,799 on trial is not green. It is red, and it is ginger wine 172 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:03,000 nine barkiful and it is truly my favorite of all of the nine barks that 173 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,440 I have ever seen. I've had it in my garden for years. I 174 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:11,960 love it because it combines so beautifully with so many different colors. So ginger 175 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:16,519 wine is a nine bark and nine barks are flowering shrubs. They're in the 176 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:20,080 rose family, although you wouldn't necessarily know it from their flowers. Their flowers 177 00:13:20,159 --> 00:13:22,879 sort of resemble more like an apple blossom. Are actually pretty close to an 178 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,879 errone of flower if you're familiar with that. They're formed in little clusters in 179 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:33,279 spring. But nine barks are primarily foliage plants. And this is sort of 180 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:39,000 a trend that kicked off maybe twenty five thirty years ago with Diablo nine bark 181 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,960 came to the US. It was popular in Europe, the first dark leaf 182 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,720 nine bark. They kind of made it onto the market and just sort of 183 00:13:46,039 --> 00:13:50,919 cracked this market wide open, and people went crazy for them because they are 184 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:56,200 very attractive, they're very easy to grow. Nine bark is a North American 185 00:13:56,279 --> 00:14:00,000 native species which I know a lot of people really like, and they're just 186 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,000 that's one of those plants that you can put in and not think too much 187 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,879 about because they generally don't need or even want pruning. I find personally that 188 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,600 nine barks are best left unpruned and allowed to just grow with their naturally elegant 189 00:14:11,639 --> 00:14:16,320 habit, so low maintenance, easy care. They love the sun. They're 190 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,080 very hearty, and so they're kind of one of those plants that people really 191 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,480 liked. Yeah, and a few weeks ago, we had a show where 192 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,000 we talked about the art of layering in your landscape. You know. I 193 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:31,519 find nine bark where it can be a standalone plant, it can be a 194 00:14:31,639 --> 00:14:35,159 backdrop, like you mentioned, the color is great or used as a hedge. 195 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,879 There's a lot of uses for nine bars. Yeah, very much so. 196 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,759 And that's one of the things I love about it as well. So 197 00:14:41,879 --> 00:14:45,320 ginger wine is a dark leaf nine bark, but it doesn't have that deep 198 00:14:45,879 --> 00:14:50,720 purple look that Diablo or our best seller Summer Wine nine Barque has. It's 199 00:14:50,919 --> 00:14:56,799 more of a like sparkling reddish color. It's really bright, it's really lively, 200 00:14:56,879 --> 00:15:01,919 and as much as I love dark leafed plants, sometimes they can create 201 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,960 a black hole in your landscape. You know, if they're too dark and 202 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,480 you don't have the right kind of plants around them to set them off, 203 00:15:07,919 --> 00:15:13,639 it just kind of creates this like eye sucking hole in your garden that kind 204 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:16,200 of detracts you. Now, it's good if you mix it in with some 205 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,240 yellow or some pink and mix it up a little bit, but you do 206 00:15:20,279 --> 00:15:22,600 have to be careful about that. But that's not really an issue with a 207 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,679 red foliaged one like ginger wine. Now, with ginger wine, when the 208 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,919 new growth comes out, it's kind of yellow and orange and these beautiful sunset 209 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,919 tones, and then it ages to that nice red color, and that red 210 00:15:33,919 --> 00:15:39,120 color is going to persist from spring, and it looks beautiful in spring. 211 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,279 When nine barks come out in spring, they just have this sort of ethereal 212 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,759 glow to the foliage. It's a celebration, it really is, and it 213 00:15:45,799 --> 00:15:50,679 looks so good with bulbs, and so that foliage will persist all through spring 214 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,799 summer, and then in fall it turns an even sort of more vivid red, 215 00:15:54,039 --> 00:15:58,120 like more of like a true red. And then the flowers, which 216 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,679 of course have already passed because they bloom in spring turn into these ornamental red 217 00:16:02,759 --> 00:16:06,759 seedheads. They're actually quite interesting. Usually not something that people think a lot 218 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,240 about as an ornamental feature on nine bark, but they are actually very effective. 219 00:16:11,279 --> 00:16:14,879 So this is a great three season plant and then come winter, depending 220 00:16:14,879 --> 00:16:18,360 on your perspective, you might still find it interesting because that common name nine 221 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:22,759 bark does come from the fact that this plant has exfoliating bark, which is 222 00:16:22,759 --> 00:16:26,639 to say that it peels away from the plant totally natural, and the more 223 00:16:26,639 --> 00:16:30,879 I'm sure the stems are, the more you're going to see that peeling effect. 224 00:16:30,639 --> 00:16:33,279 But that's where the term nine bark comes from. I have not counted 225 00:16:33,279 --> 00:16:37,919 the layers, but apparently there are can be nine layers of bark, and 226 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,080 that's where a nine bark comes from in a snowy climate. I like that, 227 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,559 Yeah, sure, I really do. It's the same with oak leaf 228 00:16:44,639 --> 00:16:49,240 Hydrangea or paper bark maple. It's a great characteristic to have in winter, 229 00:16:49,399 --> 00:16:53,879 definitely. Now the reason that I'm covering ginger wine is today's plant on trial 230 00:16:55,360 --> 00:17:00,720 on our episode about IPM is because I think a lot of people nowadays when 231 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,960 they think of nine barks, their mind immediately goes to powdery mildew, and 232 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,359 that is certainly an issue that diablohead. And this is often the case that 233 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,279 when a new plant comes onto market, you know, someone has to be 234 00:17:11,319 --> 00:17:15,519 the pioneer, someone has to go out there and say it has these features. 235 00:17:15,519 --> 00:17:19,119 We understand it's not completely you know, done yet, but so a 236 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,559 lot of times nine bark got powdery mildew. And to some extent, this 237 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:27,480 is a natural liability that a lot of nine barques can exhibit. Now it 238 00:17:27,519 --> 00:17:32,160 does not happen with our native versions, which are green. So it's really 239 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:37,480 these more selected varieties of foliage color, whether that's purple, red, green, 240 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,799 or yellow, those are the ones that are more likely to get powdery 241 00:17:41,839 --> 00:17:45,000 meldew. And knowing this, and knowing that our mission here at privun Owner's 242 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,359 Color Choice Shrubs is to reduce those kinds of diseases, we have been really 243 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:55,680 careful to test our nine barks for powdery mildew. And I think that ginger 244 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:00,440 wine is one of the most resistant that I have seen. But that said, 245 00:18:00,519 --> 00:18:03,640 it's a great example of IPM because even though we select for resistance, 246 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:08,680 and selecting a disease resistant nine barque will help you, there's still some things 247 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:14,680 that you have to do as a gardener to mitigate its prevalence because you know, 248 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,720 as you said when we were talking about a gardener who had powdery mildew, 249 00:18:18,279 --> 00:18:22,039 the spores are just in the air. So a couple of important things 250 00:18:22,079 --> 00:18:26,720 to do, no matter what type of nine bark you have is in These 251 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,200 are just basic IPM principles of putting the plant in the right place full sun. 252 00:18:30,319 --> 00:18:33,400 So it's very tempting I think when people see a foliage plant to think, 253 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,720 oh, I can put this in a shaded spot because it doesn't really 254 00:18:36,759 --> 00:18:40,599 flower that much, or I don't care if it flowers, so nine bark, 255 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,240 if you plant it in too much shade, you're gonna get muddy color 256 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,920 and you're probably gonna get powdery mildew. Why because in those lower like conditions, 257 00:18:48,319 --> 00:18:52,640 though, any moisture that's on the plant, whether that's from dew or 258 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,559 an irrigation system or it rained, it's going to sit on the plant leaves 259 00:18:56,599 --> 00:19:00,440 longer, and those are the exact right conditions for powdery mildew too. Develop 260 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,880 environment environment yep. So you want to make sure that they're in a full 261 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,559 sun spot, so that's at least six hours of bright sun every single day. 262 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,880 This is another way that you can reduce powdery maildew. And well, 263 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,400 this is true of nine marks, this is also true of any plant that 264 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:18,200 gets powdery mildew. Proper spacing definitely want to make sure that you're looking at 265 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:23,640 that width on a plant tag and that you are spacing surrounding plants or buildings 266 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,680 an appropriate amount away based on that width. If you if you don't have 267 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:33,559 your plants too crowded together, you get good air circulation and that again reduces 268 00:19:33,599 --> 00:19:37,599 the incidents of pests and disease. Air circulation the key. Think about a 269 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:42,279 hot, humid day in summer when it's just stifling, yeah, and think 270 00:19:42,279 --> 00:19:45,960 about the circulation around plants, right, Like I'm sure any parents know. 271 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,079 You know, it's a hot summer day and your kids hanging off you, 272 00:19:49,079 --> 00:19:52,920 and you're just like it, need some air circulation similar for a plant, 273 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,480 Give me some space exactly. And you know, if you do see a 274 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,759 little powdery mildew pop up here and there and you can't, you know, 275 00:20:00,759 --> 00:20:04,759 there's certain environmental factors where you can say, okay, adjust your sprinkler heads 276 00:20:04,799 --> 00:20:10,680 so they're not pelting this plant that we know is potentially susceptible if there's things 277 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,960 you can't control, like humidity, like rainfall. If you do see a 278 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,279 little bit come up, just take off those leaves or just snip off that 279 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,839 little bit of branch. It will make a big difference, and especially in 280 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,039 the long term. And I think that's another aspect of IPM that is often 281 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,480 underappreciated, is small gestures can add up. Yeah exactly. A few weeks 282 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,240 ago we had the pruning show and as opposed to taking a little off the 283 00:20:34,279 --> 00:20:40,200 top, maybe taking out some branches and opening up the plants, yeah exactly. 284 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:41,759 So there's a lot of different things you can do. Now, this 285 00:20:41,839 --> 00:20:45,960 is a beautiful plant. I have found them to be quite deer resistant. 286 00:20:45,079 --> 00:20:49,480 So that's an IPM issue that I personally deal with, is selecting deer resistant 287 00:20:49,519 --> 00:20:53,480 plants so I don't have to be spraying them or going crazy or getting angry 288 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,720 all the time. It is. So it's got good deer resistance, not 289 00:20:57,799 --> 00:21:02,559 the highest, but pretty good. I can certainly grow it. And again 290 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,799 it's also about selecting plants that are going to be less susceptible. So that's 291 00:21:06,839 --> 00:21:08,160 something we can do. But we'll meet you halfway. And then there are 292 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,160 some additional things that you have to do that are just good horticultural practice, 293 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:17,240 and that's the habits that you need to get into to be a good plant 294 00:21:17,519 --> 00:21:21,319 manager. So if you have any questions or want to see pictures of ginger 295 00:21:21,319 --> 00:21:23,119 wine nine mark, you can see it all at Gardenings Simplified on air dot 296 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,920 com or just catches on the YouTube version where you can see footage that the 297 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,799 Adriana cuts in. We're going to take a little break. Why come back, 298 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:37,480 We're opening up that garden mail bag, so please stay tuned. At 299 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,880 proven Winner's Color Choice, we've got a shrub for every taste and every space. 300 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:47,519 Whether you're looking for an easy care rose and unforgettable hydrangea, or something 301 00:21:47,519 --> 00:21:51,000 new and unique, you can be confident that the shrubs and the white containers 302 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,720 have been trialed and tested for your success. Look for them at your local 303 00:21:53,759 --> 00:22:00,480 garden center. Greeting's gardening friends, and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. 304 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:06,039 Now that it is meteorological spring. We know you've got gardening questions and 305 00:22:06,079 --> 00:22:08,680 we would love to help you with those gardening conundrums. All you have to 306 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,079 do is reach us at Gardeningsimplified on air dot com. You can also leave 307 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:17,000 a YouTube comment. You can leave an Instagram comment. We'll get them and 308 00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:19,680 we will help you the best that we can to resolve your gardening issues, 309 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,960 whether they are pest related, plant related, people related. Although we are 310 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,799 not psychologists, we can certainly give you some perspective from our years of experience. 311 00:22:29,079 --> 00:22:32,039 Yeah. And you know, speaking of years of experience, stacy, 312 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:37,400 thinking of integrated pest management, I think of examples like when pe andes are 313 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,000 about to bloom and the buds are just coated with ants, and some people 314 00:22:42,039 --> 00:22:45,759 will go crazy and empty a can of raid on them, or you know, 315 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:52,160 just just awful stuff. And again you have to you have to practice 316 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,559 IP. By the way, as far as ants are concerned, do you 317 00:22:55,599 --> 00:22:59,920 know how you tell the difference between a male ant and a female ant? 318 00:23:00,519 --> 00:23:04,279 I don't. Here's a dad joke for you. You take the ants, 319 00:23:04,599 --> 00:23:07,680 and you take an ant, and you drop it in water. If it 320 00:23:07,799 --> 00:23:14,000 sinks, it's a girl ant. If it floats, it's buoyant. Yeah, 321 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,039 I guess. So, okay, you want me to get to the 322 00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:22,079 mailbank. Let's do that, all right, So Kim asked the winter and 323 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,960 snow plowing or shoveling is delta heavyweight of snow to my landscape. I intentionally 324 00:23:26,039 --> 00:23:30,920 tried to get and keep the snow weight off my shrubs and it became a 325 00:23:30,039 --> 00:23:34,640 losing battle. So mother nature is forcing a big time printing this season due 326 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,960 to so much damage. Any advice, Well, I am sure that Kim 327 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,799 is not alone. I can tell you because I have had it happen to 328 00:23:44,839 --> 00:23:47,920 me. And you know, as the snow started to melt a few weeks 329 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,400 ago, we had a knock at the back door and I went out and 330 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:56,359 there was my neighbor standing with basically half of one of my junipers, and 331 00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:59,279 she just said, I just wanted you to know I didn't cut this. 332 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,240 It broke from the snow. And I said, okay. First of all, 333 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,920 if you did have to cut it, that would be okay, I'd 334 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,559 understand. And second of all, oh my gosh. So I wanted to 335 00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:11,279 address this because again, I know a lot of people are dealing with with 336 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,000 things that either broke or are severely bent or out of shape. Now, 337 00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:18,359 Adrian and I did make a quick YouTube short of this that you can check 338 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,799 on our YouTube channel if you're interested in that. But I would say if 339 00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:26,319 a plant is broken, like the branch is literally broken, then you're gonna 340 00:24:26,319 --> 00:24:30,480 have to prune it. And this is a situation where sort of the advice 341 00:24:30,519 --> 00:24:33,720 on pruning old wood, new wood, prune, and spring prune now kind 342 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:37,920 of goes out the window because you have to fix the broken stuff. Do 343 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,319 what you gotta do. You do what you gotta do. You don't want 344 00:24:40,319 --> 00:24:42,759 it to fall on anyone. If you don't take care of it, then 345 00:24:42,839 --> 00:24:47,039 chances are it could get worse because, for example, if something's just hanging 346 00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:49,880 and it's really heavy, it could strip the bark as it falls and that 347 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:56,519 would cause even more damage to your plants. But if something is not broken, 348 00:24:56,279 --> 00:25:00,920 then I would say, if it's just bent, start considering how you 349 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,799 might be able to remedy the situation through staking or tying the plant up. 350 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,920 And it can be temporary, but I think this can often be effective. 351 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,559 Now, what happens when all of that snow weighs down a plant. The 352 00:25:14,599 --> 00:25:18,480 plant cells actually transform to a different type of cell in response to all of 353 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,279 that weight. So when you take that off, you basically need to it's 354 00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:26,000 not just going to pop back up because now it has those cells created in 355 00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:30,440 that compression. So you need to actually take the initiative to prop that back 356 00:25:30,519 --> 00:25:33,319 up and now you can do that. A lot of times I have, 357 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,640 especially when I was a rooftop gardener and actually, you know, getting new 358 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,920 plants up to a garden was an issue. We would often use string, 359 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:47,680 heavy twine to wrap a plant up and bundle those branches together, and then 360 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,119 they'll naturally start to take on and improve to growth habit. With some of 361 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,400 my junipers or the one that really got damaged badly, what I'm going to 362 00:25:56,519 --> 00:26:00,960 do is tie so I had two leaders. One was obviously a much more 363 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,319 substantial leader. Now the one's going to be the new leader. But what 364 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,759 I'm going to do in those branches that are kind of now flattened displayed from 365 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,160 losing this is I'm just going to tie them up and back into the plant 366 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,680 to kind of reshape it. And as it has that little bit of training, 367 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,240 I don't need to leave that string on there forever, maybe just a 368 00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:22,119 season or two, and then that will help it to reshape itself. So 369 00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:26,720 sometimes this requires a little bit of creativity. You know, you're going to 370 00:26:26,799 --> 00:26:29,119 have to figure out ways that you can do this. I mean, I've 371 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,160 certainly seen people do weights, you know, like fishing weights to kind of 372 00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:37,559 try to get things to go a certain direction. I've seen wooden blocks trying 373 00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:40,039 to get a plant to grow in a certain direction. So you kind of 374 00:26:40,039 --> 00:26:42,640 have to use what you have. But if the plant is not broken and 375 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,640 it's just a little bit out of shape, that doesn't mean you need to 376 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,680 write it off. You might be able to find a creative solution. So 377 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,880 I would encourage you to to think critically about that before you make a rash 378 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,960 decision. But again, if you have actual broken branches, meeting them up, 379 00:26:57,039 --> 00:27:00,920 cut them off and make sure that the damage won't get injure anyone. 380 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:06,960 And I think this is an issue also IPM related culturally, in other words, 381 00:27:07,839 --> 00:27:12,880 having lived in a snowy climate my whole life, but I'm not bitter 382 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:19,880 about that. I try to plant herbaceous plants along the driveway edge or sidewalk 383 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:26,160 edge, or if there are woody plants, pull them forward far enough from 384 00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:30,400 the roof's edge. I think that that can make a difference too, because 385 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,519 I feel your pain. It's frustrating when you've grown this beautiful plant and the 386 00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:37,039 ice and snow take it out. Yeah, and you know, it's easy 387 00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:41,680 to forget about that potential threat when it's summer and it's beautiful, and you're 388 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,440 planting and you have a great idea, and then winter comes along and you 389 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,839 find out it's right in the path of your snow blow or blowout, and 390 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,759 there's all sorts of things that can happen. So if that is you you 391 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,359 found out that something you planted last year is not in such a great space 392 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,880 after all, this spring would be a great time to transplant it. There 393 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:03,359 you go, plant head. Loraine asks us, I really enjoyed watching your 394 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,960 show on YouTube. Thank you, Vary Mulch. I was hoping you could 395 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,799 help with a dilemma I have. I have an heirloom variety rose bush given 396 00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:15,240 to me from my grandfather. I don't know the variety though. My issue 397 00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:19,640 is rose chafers eating the blooms. I don't want to use seven to deal 398 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:25,000 with them. Too poisonous for pollinators. Do you have suggestions? Yeah, 399 00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:27,160 so this is a tough one. So rose chafers are a type of beetle 400 00:28:27,319 --> 00:28:33,039 and they do a number on roses, and a couple of times in the 401 00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:37,759 past when we've been talking about roses and Japanese beetles and chafers and those kinds 402 00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:41,680 of things, what we have recommended for reblooming roses, like Oh So easy 403 00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:45,160 roses or the rise up ros that we just talked about a little while ago. 404 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:52,160 Those can be simply cut back and trimmed, and because they'll continuously bloom 405 00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:56,000 as they recover from that trim and the pest has moved on, then you're 406 00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:59,920 able to get those pest free flowers. Now for lorrain, it's impossible to 407 00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:03,359 say, especially not even knowing a lot of those more old fashioned roses do 408 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,319 not have that ability to rebloom. If you were to deploy this strategy, 409 00:29:07,759 --> 00:29:11,599 you might not be guaranteed more flowers, but you also might And to me, 410 00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:17,440 this is a perfect example of using IPM because you look at that time 411 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,880 when the rose chafers are most active, you take away the flowers what attracts 412 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:25,640 them. Rose chafers don't actually have as long a life cycle as Japanese beetles, 413 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,920 so they're not feeding as long and so it's worth experimenting with. I 414 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,640 mean, it's certainly better than looking at a bunch of jagged old rose flowers, 415 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,000 which are only going to attract more rose chafers and Japanese beetles. So 416 00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:40,079 that's the first thing that I would recommend that you at least try, knowing 417 00:29:40,119 --> 00:29:44,599 that you might actually be sacrificing the flowers and that is unfortunate, but it's 418 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,480 worth at least trying. Now. As I researched more about rose chafers to 419 00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:52,640 help Lorraine with this question, it does seem that they are one of those 420 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:59,039 rose pests that have very few alternative options for managing them. Most of the 421 00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:02,000 options just said if you don't want to use any kind of pesticide, you 422 00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:06,799 have to handpick them, and that's not super fun, but it is possible, 423 00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:08,960 and you can do it early in the morning. If you do that 424 00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:12,000 early, they're still kind of sluggish. You don't have to worry about them 425 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,359 flying or crawling all over. If you're squeamish, you can just kind of 426 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,960 take the flowers and shake them into a bucket of soapy water and they'll just 427 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,400 fall right into that. So hand picking is I think a huge part of 428 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:29,559 IPM and something that I use a lot. But outside of those two options, 429 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,000 I did not find a lot of options for controlling rose chafer. If 430 00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:41,240 you're squeamish about hand picking, some people become very skilled using vacuums. Oh, 431 00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:44,599 and I still think using a vacuum, like you said, when they're 432 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,240 sluggish during the day and not sucking the foliage off the plant. Some people 433 00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:53,559 become very skilled at that. Another thing, Stacey, that I would say 434 00:30:53,640 --> 00:31:00,960 my experience with rosechafers is that rosechafers emerge from the soil at a certain point 435 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:07,079 of the year. We're talking IPM today, sometimes cultivation or cultivating at the 436 00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:10,799 base of the plant or in the area of the plant at that time of 437 00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:14,559 the year, usually mid to late May here in Michigan. Most of the 438 00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:21,799 pressure is in June, and then pyreethering sprays when you really can't control the 439 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,680 issue. Is a spray that I've used to deal with rose chap you know. 440 00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:32,440 Another important part of managing any beetles is understanding that beetles have a very 441 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,000 interesting life cycle. They have a life cycle similar to a butterfly exactly. 442 00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:38,960 So their larval stage is the grub and so a lot of times when it 443 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,079 comes to managing adult beetles, even though your instinct is to say, hey, 444 00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:45,279 I got to smash this, you know, armored little guy on my 445 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:51,799 rose plant, a better solution would potentially be managing grubs in your lawn and 446 00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:52,960 there's a lot of different ways to do that. Now, one thing I 447 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,920 do want to point out most people think grubs I can manage them with milky 448 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,519 spore. This is a non toxic grub control. Milkie spore is not effective 449 00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:06,599 on rosechafer grubs, so do not If you use milki spore to manage Japanese 450 00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:10,000 beetles or we're planning on using it, do not count on it to manage 451 00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:15,400 the rose chafers. You'll have to find another management strategy for rosechafer grubs in 452 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,119 your lawn. But also being aware that the adults can fly and will for 453 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,039 your delicious, delicious roses. We do a little research on the life cycle 454 00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:28,039 of a rosechafer. Well yeah, it definitely helps you feel a little bit 455 00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:30,200 more empowered to deal with it. So hopefully that will work for you. 456 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,200 Lorraine want to thank everyone for their questions. If you have a question, 457 00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:36,799 Gardeningsimplified on air dot com is a great way to reach us and we would 458 00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:38,200 be happy to help you. We're going to take a break. When we 459 00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:47,240 come back, we've got branching news. The Gardening Simplified Show is brought to 460 00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:52,200 you by proven winners Color Choice Shrubs, our award winning flowering shrubs and evergreens 461 00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:58,079 have been trialed and tested for your success so you enjoy more beauty and less 462 00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:01,599 work. Look for proven winners color shrubs and the distinctive white container at your 463 00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:07,279 local garden center. Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. It's time for 464 00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:13,000 branching news and Stacey today. Our first story comes from the Los Angeles Daily 465 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,480 News. David Gee's yard. A lot of people pay attention to it, 466 00:33:16,519 --> 00:33:23,000 not because of the plant material, but because of Murray. Murray is the 467 00:33:23,079 --> 00:33:29,759 name of a two and a half ton replica of the Moi figures that you 468 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,079 see on Easter Island. Oh wow, yeah, really cool and you can 469 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,440 check out the pictures at our website, Gardening Simplified on air dot com. 470 00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:45,359 And so his wife, as I understand, that, gave this to him 471 00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:52,079 as a surprise gift. It's seven and a half feet tall. Murray the 472 00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:57,359 Moi was a surprise gift, so very very cool. It was fabricated out 473 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,720 of volcanic rock in two thousand and seven. Is a big hit and popular 474 00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:08,519 on Halloween in the neighborhood. She had given it to him for Christmas. 475 00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:13,719 Now they're retired, planning to move to a smaller house. But you can't 476 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,239 really pick up Murray and move Murray, so somebody's gonna have to buy it 477 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:22,280 or decide they want Murray. Well, this is definitely an answer to what 478 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:28,960 do you get the guy who has everything? Yeah, exactly amazing. I 479 00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:34,119 love this statue. And of course the market for a second hand MOI is 480 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,559 limited in Los Angeles, are pretty much anywhere. But I hope that this 481 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:45,800 story has a happy ending. They're having monumental fatigue is what they're having, 482 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:52,159 and they can't take they can't take Murray with them. So here you go 483 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,519 an offer you don't want to take. For granted, here's an interesting story. 484 00:34:57,559 --> 00:35:05,480 According to a post in social media the Monroe County, Alabama Sheriff's Office, 485 00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:12,400 residents were told not to be alarmed because there was a There was a 486 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:19,719 post of them throwing pine cones along the roadside in the neighborhood, and the 487 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:27,159 post indicated supposedly that the pine cones were outfitted with wireless five G mini spy 488 00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:35,119 cameras to enhance their surveillance efforts. This innovative technology, known as conecms, 489 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:42,760 featured high definition resolution two way audio with night vision capabilities and operate on a 490 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:49,039 five G network compatible with Alexa and Siri. Now, a lot of people 491 00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:52,840 bought this. This had to have been a hoax, but you could imagine 492 00:35:53,199 --> 00:35:58,679 if you did believe it, how people would have gone nuts over this. 493 00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:01,119 Sure, fminds me of one of those stories on the NPR New show. 494 00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:04,400 Wait, wait, don't tell me where you have to tell which story is 495 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,679 wrong or exactly. This could be on one of those yard to hear first. 496 00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:15,800 Maybe the post was shared hundreds of times. They couldn't really confirm who 497 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:22,440 posted the cone cams story or who was responsible for it. So just to 498 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:28,719 be safe, some residents just did some yard cleaning and cleaned up the cone 499 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,199 cams interest. Maybe I should start that in my neighborhood because I have a 500 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,119 lot of pine cones in my yard and they are not fun to clean up. 501 00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:38,639 So yeah, and it brings up the point, don't believe everything that 502 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:45,880 you read on the internet. Right, Their attempt was controversial? All right? 503 00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:49,119 The oh this is interesting. I wanted to ask you, Stacy, 504 00:36:49,159 --> 00:36:54,480 if you've ever been here South Coast Botanic Garden. This is in California, 505 00:36:55,599 --> 00:37:01,559 just south of Los Angeles, as I understand it, but they have a 506 00:37:01,639 --> 00:37:07,440 bumpy driveway that leads to this botanical garden. It's an eighty seven acre garden, 507 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:15,119 and the road is bumpy because the entire garden has been built on a 508 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:21,719 landfill. Trash trash underneath. The earth continues to shift and compact, and 509 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,800 it causes bumps and divots in the pathways there at this garden. Have you 510 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,760 ever been there? I have not. Sounds interesting eighty seven acres, so 511 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,119 I'm putting it on my radar. South Coast Botanic Garden. Of course, 512 00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:38,360 we're going to put the link there at Gardening Simplified on air dot Com. 513 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:45,320 Check that out. It has rows and rows of colorful roses. But one 514 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:52,039 of the world's first botanical gardens to be developed over a sanitary landfill, billing 515 00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:59,679 itself as a masterpiece of creative land reclamation. It's reclaimed marvel that other communities 516 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:06,679 may be looking at to replicate with their own landfills. Also, yeah, 517 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,199 it makes sense for areas where you don't get snow. A lot of times 518 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:13,880 landfills are repurposed into ski hills or sledding hills. South of Los Angeles, 519 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,639 you're not getting much snow, so why not turn it into a gardener or 520 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,079 bird sanctuary. You know what. I also think they should start turning them 521 00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:24,239 into butterfly sanctuaries, planting a bunch of you know, butterfly plants and just 522 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,079 letting them do their thing. I like that. I like that, and 523 00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:30,639 you know, kudos to them. A lot of people don't want to have 524 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:36,920 to deal with compost. They find it degrading. I'll let that one sink 525 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,360 in a little bit. When it comes to our health and eating things like 526 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:45,519 vegetables, we tend to trust our parents, example, the most. This 527 00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:51,159 is interesting. It's a survey. While growing up proactive approaches like drinking water, 528 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,679 eating healthy foods, eat your vegetables, clear that broccoli off your plate, 529 00:38:55,039 --> 00:39:00,440 going to their doctor for physicals, and taking vitamins and supplements or top 530 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,280 of mind. But at the end of the day, in the survey, 531 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:08,440 respondents are more likely to trust their own parents when it comes to their health 532 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:15,039 and wellness advice than they are of that of a best friend or social media. 533 00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:20,000 Do you buy them? I guess it depends on the parent. That's 534 00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:24,760 true. It's no secret we all learn from our parents, and health routines 535 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:30,639 are no exception. So I think people, especially when you're young. Most 536 00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:35,079 people do tend to think of their parents as having all the answers, whether 537 00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:37,599 or not they actually do, or even if they try to come across that 538 00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:38,960 way. It's just, you know, that's the person you go to and 539 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,639 they always have an answer for you, whether it's a good answer or a 540 00:39:42,679 --> 00:39:45,920 bad answer, or ask me later, you know, so that we build 541 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,840 that trust up, you know, in a good relationship when we're really young, 542 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,000 and mom can always fix everything. Okay, that's just I mean, 543 00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:58,639 it's why I'm addicted to vix vapor rub. I love vix vapor rub. 544 00:39:58,639 --> 00:40:00,320 I love the smell of it. I use it even when I'm not sick 545 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:07,039 because my mom her go to was vix vapole rub. It was either ginger 546 00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:12,840 ale crackers, baking soda, or vix vapole rub. Those are the four 547 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,159 things that fix everything. So there you go. A Texas woman is giggling 548 00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:22,079 at a recent mishap that occurred when she went to order a bouquet of flowers. 549 00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:27,639 Sarah Hollingsworth, thirty five years old from Austin, Texas, runs a 550 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,440 baby registry company called poppy list Now. She called a local flower shop to 551 00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:37,239 order a bouquet of poppy flowers to take with her to an exhibit in San 552 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:43,639 Diego, California. She said she wanted some poppy flowers as it's part of 553 00:40:43,639 --> 00:40:50,480 the name of the company and also a very important flower in California. So 554 00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:54,679 she picks up the phone and she calls to order these flowers, and when 555 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:59,800 she receives them, she's like, WHOA. At first, I was like, 556 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,639 these aren't poppies. She took off the wrapping. There were weird googly 557 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:10,039 eyes. What are those things doing there? The wonderful person at the florist 558 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:20,920 had misunderstood her and sent two puppies flower arrangements in the shape of a puppy, 559 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,559 and after her initial shock, she thought, man, I'm so impressed 560 00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:30,360 with this design. She kept the puppy bouquet, and here's the interesting thing 561 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:36,400 for her. She posted a video of the bouquet to TikTok, where it 562 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:43,480 now has over four point five million views and six hundred and seventy eight thousand 563 00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:49,639 likes. Wow, puppies, puppies. So there you have it. Today's 564 00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:52,039 show has been a kick in the plants. Thanks so much, they see. 565 00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:53,880 Thank you Rick, thank you Adriana, and most of all. Thank 566 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:59,519 you to you for your support of the Gardening Simplified Show. Go to our 567 00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:04,239 website Gardeningsimplified on air dot com. The show notes are there for you, 568 00:42:05,039 --> 00:42:08,400 not only of this show, but of previous shows. Also watch us on 569 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:13,880 YouTube or wherever you get your favorite podcast. We thank you, We thank 570 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,800 you very much. Have a great week.