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Howdy and welcome to the Three True
Outcomes podcast, presented by Baseball Perspectives.

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I'm your host, Ian Leftqwitz and
joining me as always from suburban Michigan.

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It's Ben Murphy. Ben. How
are you doing? Oh far, well,

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Mama, I blame Okay, it's
a good bet good Okay, I'm

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doing Willie, And how are you? Yeah, No, we're doing well.

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We're exploring some cookie noises and some
some mouth sounds for podcast listeners.

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Will uh just wipe that in later, I guess. Um. Meanwhile,

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from our nation's capitals, Jared Wise
dared, how are you doing? Sadly

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devoid of cookies? Other than that, I'm doing well though. Um did

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you guys see the the Sesame Street
meme? Which good job to the sesame

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Street content creator of being abandoned on
deserted island? Who do you keep with

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you? Oscar Grover Elmo or cookie
Monster? Just in case you missed that,

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I saw that, But then I
saw that the replies were starting to

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get pretty dark, and I don't
want that. Yeah, well, okay,

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so two things. One like Twitter
has to be deleted, right,

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because yeah, that's like it's sesame
Street asking about like cookie and you don't.

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You don't need to take this into
cannibalism. That's fine. Um number

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two, we decided the answer has
to be Grover. Um. I don't

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know, I don't know where you
all landed, but why Grover Um?

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Because I can deal with anxiety,
but everyone else is like gonna be too

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much for an island, like almost
too perky, and cookie Monsters too cookie

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and Oscars too crutchy. Yeah,
and I think Paula Popkins had a right

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opinion about cookie Monster, which is
like if he cut off the cookies,

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what what's sobere cookie Monster? Like, I don't know. Did you read

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Cookie monsters ama on Reddit? He
seems like a pretty good dude. Okay,

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okay, Well that's uh a lot
to think about. So So in

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today's focused episode, um, we
have we have some so of exciting stories

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coming up. We are interested in
talking about the new rules like everybody else,

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but maybe thinking about them with the
score sheet perspective. Um, we

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will little Uh yeah, didn't you
hear do a lipis on? No?

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I mean that's a that's a two
percenter? Yeah? Yeah, sorry,

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I should know my audience a little
better. Um. We also have h

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well, our version of a National
League preview, which is like the others

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but worse, and uh then we'll
get out of our hair. Mail back,

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captain. Is today a quiet week
for for us? It's a super

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quiet week. It's said, I'm
lonely. Do you feel like cookie monster

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without cookies? Actually? Yeah,
that's probably an aped analogy. Okay,

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so how how can you how can
we best remedy the situation? You can

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also send me cookies, that'd be
okay, or you can send an email

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to scoresheet at Baseball Perspectives dot com. All right, Oh, and before

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I forget some site news, I
guess we have ads now, yeah,

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we have ads. We should have
definitely definitely warned you about that. Holy

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holy cats, they're loud. We're
looking at it, at it, and

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we want to kind of figure out
I think if it is worth it for

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us and particularly Ben, if it
is paying for itself. So we'll find

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out. So I will be strangely
cut off mid sentence a little later in

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this podcast, and we'll figure that
out later. Thank you for joining us

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on this journey. If any of
the listeners are audio engineers and want to

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help out, that would be wonderful. Yes, Oh, for sure.

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Yeah, I don't know lead like
casual tips for like I just usually throw

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stuff in audacity and I'm sure it's
got some kind of audio leveling in there,

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but I don't know how to find
it, and I'm too lazy to

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search for it myself. What is
it Every third person has a podcast at

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this point. Maybe you're one of
them. Let us know. Um oh,

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and I have I have one more
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don't know if you've been looking through
the Baseball Perspective slack channel, but one

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of the things that they have put
together that I was just reading because I

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am an exciting person right before this
podcast, they have they shared the twenty

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nineteen Player Name and Pronunciation Guide MLB. Oh that's good, which is super

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fascinating. Yeah, you should probably
have it for like life. Yeah yeah,

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good for talking about baseball players.
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as very apparent, and we may
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as well. Um boy, they
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as their first language, is Spanish
as a second. Just Elby is like,

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um, you know, they don't
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but they have like Perez or Panis
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how Louise is pronounced. At this
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experienced that name. Um. The
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early on. Um, so Stefan
Crichton. Um. They do a pronunciation

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guide for his name, formerly of
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but only Stefan. So I was
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everybody in baseball has read Jurassic Park? Seems plausible? I buy it.

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So yeah, definitely, um,
definitely the most exciting document I read today.

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Oh yeah, that's pretty good.
I like this. Um, so

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we can we can continue throughout throughout
the podcast with that. But before we

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do that, let's, uh,
let's move on to the rules. So

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everyone like, we're not breaking news
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totally didn't just be we're probably breaking
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were just ranting about whatever the pronunciation
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summary. Uh that's not open on
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audience of one, I like to
think I'm the every man here. Yeah,

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that's that's fair that I think you
provide right, you provide the every

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man perspective that this podcast is sorely
lacking. Um yes, uh okay,

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So I guess we should introduce the
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everyone knows, but UM do we
just want to like quickly talk about our

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feelings about them. So just the
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UM. In twenty nineteen, so
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the waiver tread deadline is eliminated.
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Mountain visits are reduced from six to
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Twenty twenty there will be bigger changes. So the active roster is going

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to grow from twenty five to twenty
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go down from forty to twenty eight. Players are going to have to be

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fielders or pitchers, and a certain
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as an assigned to the roster.
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and the option period is going from
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can't screw around with options in the
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so relievers are going to be forced
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batters. Um. So, Jared, you have time. You've had time

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to digest this, so while Ben
is having time to digest cookies. What

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was your take when you first heard
these rules coming down the pike. Um,

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I guess it, generally speaking,
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be honest, I don't know.
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to not have rule changes much less
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all at once. So I guess
I was surprised to see him. I

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don't know that it moves the needle
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surprised to see baseball taking any sort
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than like forming exploratory committees right for
the next decade, right, Yeah?

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Yeah, we will see if stepping
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we'll study that for fifteen years.
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minds about this. As we talked
about I guess you know past podcast is

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I am probably a little less precious
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the burn it down and fix everything
territory, move fast break things. Yeah,

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but like to me, this feels
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It doesn't seem like the fixing the
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totally not just reading, they said
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up from twenty five to twenty sixth, there is an um as yet undecided

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cap on the number of pictures that
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behind that, so you know,
we can get into that briefly. Um,

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I think we should finish with the
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guess. I was also surprised at
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surface like they might be like meaningful
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have quantified some of them and said
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to impact as many situations as you
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I was a little surprised at how
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than I'm used to baseball being as
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thing I was wondering, And I
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familiar or not. Had they done
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like as these things come up,
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of these changes, or is it
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sort of like shooting in the dark. I don't know exactly how to answer

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that, but I think the one
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mind is yes, they have basically
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and forced the Atlantic League to start
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use it as a test kitchen for
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say that these changes have been evaluated, but yeah, I think any in

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the future will be. It seems
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to have a place where we can
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haven't tested yet that we're going to
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it's very fascinating because like, um, you know, as a effectively wild

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a podcast you should probably be listening
to in addition to Slash instead of this

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one mentioned some of the language on
this is like a little slippery and I

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haven't quite like locked down like some
of the what they mean, like you

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know, there will be pictures.
Some of the players will be pictures.

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There will be a cap on them, and we'll talk about the cap later,

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like, okay, well what's a
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of wonder if that's intentional, though, Yeah, it says on this one

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that so again I'm reading the MLB
cut for so many teams will have to

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designate players as either fielders or pitchers
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way player, otherwise their rules and
when a fielder can enter the game as

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a picture. So they're basically trying
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basically like less effective as a US. Right. Well, it's interesting

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to me because I don't I don't
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than there was like a scourge of
position player pitching uh last season, which

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is, you know, awesome.
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so entertaining. So I guess the
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awesome by adding twenty game arbitrary rules. And I mean I may have talked

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once or twice on this podcast about
how I feel about arbitrary twenty game requirements,

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So I don't yeah, I wasn't
like a super fan of that that

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particular distinction. I think it like
it makes more sense and concert if they

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are going to try to ratchet down
the number of pitchers who have spots and

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maybe force more two way players,
which seems exciting. But a number of

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two way players, then like,
why wouldn't you just designate the like for

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position players that are your best garbage
time pitchers as two way players or whatever?

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have to actually pitch. You can't

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just destignate them. Yeah, that's
fine. So you just make sure they

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get in some kind of garbage time
at some point so that they keep their

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designation. But they would have to
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Okay, So it's it's a chald
right. It's one of those things that

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like it's hard for me to understand
how Shoheo Tani ever becomes a two way

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player again, because it seems like
there's a lot of pressure for him not

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to be once he has become like
a DH this year, because then he'll

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will have to be designated as a
a field or a pitcher next year,

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and then you know, based on
that there will be restrictions on when he

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can come in or play. Is
it possible that baseball hates fun? I

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think I think the love and hate
of fun is tangential to the rule.

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It's like not a consideration one way
or the other. Yeah, Or they

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are trying to think about fun in
the sense of maximizing like play per minute

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as opposed to like, you know, cool stuff happening during the game,

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which is a little longer. So
you know, that's definitely an angle.

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But they are I think laser focused
on pace of play. I for me,

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you know, I think some of
the manipulation around pitching is interesting,

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but I feel like they are just
going to be a little less dra conient

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about it than I want, and
it's actually going to cause some negative repercussions.

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Like I think I have a feeling
they are going to force every team

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to have thirteen pictures from now on, and it doesn't feel like that's the

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answer. That's what Nate Silver thought
we should do, like not thirteen specifically,

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but right it wasn't that thing that
he run on five thirty years about.

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Yeah, Well, I think they
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pictures in a game as well,
or well, I think they shouldn't actually

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restrict number of pictures in a game, which I haven't seen people talking a

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lot. But to me, it
seems like the actual problem, and it

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seems like the answer to a number
of related problems, which is too many

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one pictures, which I think is
more insidious than too many one batter pictures.

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I think too many breaks, too
many anonymous relievers. I think if

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we are more restrictive of pictures per
game, that seems to get more at

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the answer. But I think they're
more interested in pictures on the roster at

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one time. Do you think I
was thinking five or six, with maybe

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the other pictures designated for um like
extra endings. If a game goes extra

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endings, you can the rest of
the roster can play. What if it's

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like a blowout and dudes are just
getting shelect okay, yeah, but like

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okay, you need some kind of
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extra endings, yeah, or some
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they have to blow the well,
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an allowance for more pictures available if
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number of pitches without getting outs or
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but like or batter's faced or whatever. Yeah, yeah, they're not

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going to do it. It's it's
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more like the thing that they are
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the roster to be like we're going
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Just it doesn't seem to quite get
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and I feel like the twenty six
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to be actively bad in some ways
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and it's just bringing in bringing in
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which again, these are generally like
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that, and you know, I
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soon too, and it is it's
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if anyone has any other thoughts about
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perspective, it's the roster stuff is
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does it is going to change the
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but probably a little bit more than
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because again, real baseball, they
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minor league and farm systems and independent
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supply of players and we can't.
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going to change the game a little
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probably ways that we would like.
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moving from twenty five players to twenty
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bats are going to be leached out
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kind of already a problem. Like
if you look at the way, what

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is it like a third more pitchers
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twenty years ago. It like this, I don't have the study in front

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of me, but it's spiked pretty
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all of these innings like just leaving
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have benches shortening and shortening, and
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and you know, like we were
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one of our leagues, and there
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that there just aren't like backups at
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the guy in triple A and hope
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help. You know, are we
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question is what are we going to
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think have thirteen pitchers at this point, which is depressing but true. So

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if the benches themselves grow by one
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to see more defined roles? I
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infielder, outfielder, catcher, person
who can hit, or will teams just

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take you know, like every day's
gonna go Yeah, I get to keep

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my third emergency catcher and then call
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to be a mix of stuff,
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the teams. Yeah, it's gonna
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front office is going to play a
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differentiation early on and then probably some
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think there's an aspect to this that

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is exciting. Like it has gotten
more and more difficult to find platoon partners

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for your left handed hitting players,
you know, especially in fielders, but

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also outfielders, you know it,
it's more difficult to do some of that

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eighty style roster management with the team
these with teams these days, and maybe

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carrying an extra position player is going
to allow you should be a little more

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artful about taking players out, about
having pinch hitting, you know, like

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it's the things on the margins that
are like extremely impactful to a game,

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like score sheet, you know,
which is kind of based on I'm not

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sure if I agree with it,
but I don't have any evidence to back

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it up. It doesn't feel like
pinch hitters and like lead any defensive replacements

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have that much of an impact.
But I no, I think that's fair.

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I think it's more I would say, more impact on your roster construction

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than impact on the game like you
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will be able to make more choices
in season. I think that would be

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true if the in game controls allowed
that sort of flexibility. I think the

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problem is that like in game controls
don't allow you to really have like finite

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control over like give you enough specificity
in those different situations to be able to

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like use those extra assets in a
way that's that impactful, like so that

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it wouldn't the fact that you can't
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time means that it's much harder to
leverage the value that those like roster construction,

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flexibility, whatever would give you.
And like, I don't think.

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I don't think that would be like
the place where it changes. I think,

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like I agree with what you're saying
about like playing time and the other

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opportunities, but I think, you
know, in terms of the like more

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nuanced stuff, I don't. I
don't know. My hunch would be that

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I wouldn't have that big of an
impact, Like I said, I have

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no evidence for that. Yeah,
none of us do, including all By,

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So I don't know. So there's
also you know, moving the minimum

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injured list an optional list, which
is happening now from ten days to fifteen.

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Again, I think like by restricting
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more and trying to rain that in
a little bit, I do think it

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will make scoresheet a little better.
I don't like, I think the game

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works better if there are fewer relievers
getting innings per season. Yeah. I

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don't know if this is going to
have a big impact on that, but

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you know, every little bit helps. I guess it's part of the decrease

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of the forty person arrester to make
it so that it's harder to use the

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injured list as like a shuttle taxi
squad type of thing. I think they're

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unrelated, but I do think,
yes, I think by and large,

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yeah, the twenty cutting the forty
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September, and that's only the major
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I think gets to prevent the Los
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their farm system like a Texas squad, and maybe other teams as well,

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but really the Dodgers. Yeah,
Um, cutting from forty to twenty eight

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in September is to me a mild
bummer but they are not playing. They

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like MLB does not really care about
like my love of seeing like a Koy

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Dixon and John Lindsay get three at
bats in September and finally make the major

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leagues. That's not like other other
than me, and like the families of

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those players. I guess no one
is really caring. But I like I

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do like cups of coffee. I
thought it was fun. Um, I

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didn't think it was a big packed
on the game, but yeah, I

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mean I agree, I think it
is fun to heather, there's that,

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but I don't know. I think
it's It's always been crazy to me that

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the September Rusters are just so different. I think from a game perspective,

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it doesn't make sense. That's fair, that's fair by September. I'm like,

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bring on the thing that is different. But sure, yes, I

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can see if you actually care about
a team that is in contention back getting

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annoying. Fortunately none of us have. That's too much experience in that matter.

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So the three batter minimum I think
has gotten the most the most play,

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even though I don't think it's the
most impactful of these by far.

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But I guess it's the one that
will have the most impact on an individual

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game. And there are a couple
of questions here about how scoresheet is going

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to handle us, Like one,
you know, do we think the real

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life rule is going to affect score
sheet? And to how do we think

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scores sheets should implement the real life
rule? Um? So just to take

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them out a time? Um?
So do you do either of you think

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this will change scores sheet anyway?
Moving by team scores sheet? Um,

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do you think like fewer lugi's is
going to impact roster construction? I don't

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think materially it will. I think
to find the best relievers that Yeah.

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Yeah, I kind of agree,
And I kind of think this is true

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even in real life. I don't
think that many players are going to like

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lose their jobs or have their jobs
change. This seems like a very mild

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um position to me, especially since
you know, if there are two outs,

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you can put in your lugie.
Right. Yeah, the part of

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the role seems weird to me,
But I mean, you're good all teams

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are going to have the left in
the bullpen or like the second length the

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bullpen. I don't Yeah, I
don't think this changes that much. Yeah,

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right, And I don't think mid
ating pitching changes were really like the

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You know, I guess right,
just because something is not at the biggest

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problem doesn't mean you can't fix it. But sure, I didn't really see

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the sense of problem at all,
to be perfectly honest, No, I

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agree. Now let me ask,
So, I've heard some people talk about

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liking it because it adds additional strategy
to the game in terms of managers.

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Now I'm making having to make more
or different decisions about pitchers. Do you

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agree that, and does that impact
your view of this change? I guess

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I haven't actually thought of it that
hard. I suppose it is. Maybe

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it will. I guess what is
the implication that they're managers are going to

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have to decide whether going that putting
in a player is worth it if they're

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facing two lefties and the third righty. Yeah, or you know, there's

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two outs and you put your lefty
in, but he doesn't get that out

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and then stable for the manager to
have to consider. Yeah, yeah,

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I could see that. I right, it's probably a different set of constraints,

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right, it's not like a better
one, but maybe it is.

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I think it'll make like top tier
lefties marginally better, or lefty hitters marginally

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better, which is good. I
guess many of the best hitters, or

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like a disproportionate number of the best
hitters, are left handed, so it's

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probably better for MLB to get their
numbers slightly higher and to have them,

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you know, have more impact in
big situations. But you're probably still gonna

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like angle things to have the left
handed hitter face Jim Tommy, if you

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know what I mean. It also
seems likely that amongst the managers, it's

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not going to change how we differentiate
them, Like the savvy managers are going

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to be able to handle it,
and the Mike Matheinis are going to bungle

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it, just like you would expect. And it's just another maybe data point

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in how you would build evidence about
whether a manager was competent and you know,

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capable of handling the strategic opportunities in
front of him. But it doesn't

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seem to me like it's gonna drastically
change some of that math for people,

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right, It's true, I guess
we have a different set of managers now

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like the managers are ten years ago. Like a couple that would lars out

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there and two outs, just like
walking to the mound without like before realizing

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m Yeah, Like, I don't
know. I think this is one that's

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a little wait and see. So
I guess my next question is, should

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scores sheet do this? Yes,
scores sheet should do this, okay because

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you think it would mirror real life
baseball. Yes, because that's scores sheets

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if not stated at least implied intention. Yeah, but would you really put

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this ahead of other things on the
list of things that you would want to

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have scoresheet implement. I mean,
I guess it depends what else is on

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the list, but it seems pretty
important based on what scores Sheet is now,

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right, So you're saying it's probably
more important than even some of the

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changes we'd like to see scores She'd
make, just because it's a fork from

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the rules of baseball. Yes,
that's less fun than other changes, don't

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get me wrong, and parting we
would rather would have more fun with similar

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stuff. But I think so long
as scores sheet is going to be attempting

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to murror baseball, then it should
attempt to murror baseball. Okay, And

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like to you, having the ability
to hook at point two five is just

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not like it's not worth the m
that advantage, or I guess the hook

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at point two five could just end
after three batters, right, yeah,

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that no matter what? Or three
batters at the end of the half ending?

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Yeah? Um. Does it feel
like you would have less control?

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As Ben said, like the control
you have over your in game decisions is

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a little bit like second order,
right, Like you don't have immediate tactical

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control over the team, but you
can set preferences that the simulation then kind

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of implements. I think second orders
agree we describing that. I like that,

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Thank you m right. Do you
do you feel like this will add

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another constraint, like distorting the impact
that you can have setting the lineup sheet?

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Sure? Yeah, maybe a little
bit, but I mean that's that's

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how the system is set up right
now, right, So that's just the

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way it is. Yes, it
doesn't mean I'm happy about it, but

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some things will never change. Do
you think it's just a difference in how

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you set your hooks or do you
think it's like an actual, like new

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parameter about like does this picture enter
an ending with you know, less than

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two outs or whatever? This reliever? Jared, I think the way you

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were saying it was a parameter,
right, Yeah, that rather rather than

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like put the control on the user's
side and like force the user to have

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minimum point seventy five, just like
create a rule that even if the hook

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is point two five, even a
zero, if the picture comes in they're

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facing three batters or until that into
the happening. Yeah, I meant more

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that it would change how you think
about setting the hook numbers because you know

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that the picture has to face the
minimum of three batters, like you might

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hook oh pictures lower when you're entering
the hook numbers because the assumption is that

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they're probably gonna end up facing more
batters in general than you would really want

409
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:25.800
them to. Yeah, that's a
good point. I would do that.

410
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.840
Yeah. Yeah, that sounds like
a really good idea. Free advice,

411
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:39.199
all right, Hot tips for twenty
twenty. Just have to implement it in

412
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:45.400
scoresheet and then we've got some great
advice for you to have to play the

413
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:49.719
three edible game that does not quite
exist yet. That's what I'm here for.

414
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:52.760
That sounds like sounds like my calling. Yeah, it sounds like a

415
00:35:52.800 --> 00:36:01.960
good idea. Yeah. So anything
else about well, yeah, I mean

416
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:06.599
I think we don't talk about too
much. You can say for anything.

417
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:08.880
But I think to me this raises
a couple of interesting questions. Is one

418
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:13.239
of which is, you know,
what what do we or what do people

419
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:16.800
want out of a sim? Do
they wanted to mirror Baseball exactly? Or

420
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:21.880
do you want the option of playing
around with your own changes like this um?

421
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:25.159
Or are the ones you know,
UM subtle or large? Because you

422
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:30.119
can imagine sim where you have the
option of changing this rule not or changing

423
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:35.519
whatever other rules? So this should
you know? Do you do people want

424
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:38.000
a sim exactly like baseball or do
you want the ability to play around with

425
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:44.159
stuff? Right? And I guess
the example would be in particular, Out

426
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:50.239
of the Park seems to be the
like dominant simulation in this sphere, being

427
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:55.440
able to change a bunch of rules
off and on both I guess in terms

428
00:36:55.440 --> 00:37:01.360
of like lineup and roster construction,
and also um, you know, I

429
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:05.280
think rules about how the game is
played. If I recall, they have

430
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:10.559
a pretty experience setting screen that is
filled with a lot of I was gonna

431
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:14.599
say, I tried to get into
Out of the Park and it was kind

432
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:19.199
of overwhelming. So I think my
best case scenario for something like this is

433
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:24.079
that there's options for customization, but
the defaults are available to let it just

434
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:32.199
run like MLB, and there's like
some depth to how the different parameters are

435
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:37.480
defined in the different options for customizing
how it works, so that there's like

436
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:42.639
a you know, like beginner sort
of level of like here are some of

437
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:45.639
the tweaks that you might want to
make at first, and there's like a

438
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:49.000
spectrum that starts there at the beginning
of level, then goes to something more

439
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.480
complicated or sophisticated, you know,
at the other end of the spectrum,

440
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:58.239
and that you know, the sims
should sort of guide somebody through the fact

441
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:02.360
that not all of these options are
created equal and it should be easy for

442
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:06.880
somebody who wants to have it be
as close to Major League a small as

443
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:12.159
possible to just sort of dive in
and have that experience. Right. I

444
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:16.320
think one of the things to think
about is that I think every customer,

445
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:22.559
every customization that you add, means
you have to like test the range of

446
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:29.320
customization, so it like it's a
simple choice that makes the ultimate algorithm much

447
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:37.639
more complex and then also provides humans
a the possibility of gaming the system a

448
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:42.239
little bit more easily. Yeah,
I think developing something like that would be

449
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:46.639
very onerous, right, like what
I described, Sorry, developing the thing

450
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:51.400
that I described would be very time
consuming. But yeah, Jared's question was,

451
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.400
like, what do you want to
some of them? Because like right,

452
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:58.840
well, because like Out of the
Park is heavily on customization side.

453
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:02.400
Yeah, but um, I can
also like destroy the computer in that game

454
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:07.719
over probably like you know, a
season or two and I'm winning one hundred

455
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:13.480
ten games a year. It was
just smarty pants over here. Yeah,

456
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:15.840
it was the last time you had
a squashy team in that mini games.

457
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:22.280
Maybe we should start a different podcast
two seventeen, right, our Murphy team

458
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:25.599
won one hundred and eight. Gonna
hang out to that, okay, right,

459
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:32.679
yeah, my points. Yeah,
it's my second question though, do

460
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:37.559
you think um so you talked about
how MLB is using the Atlantic League for

461
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:44.400
testing out some of these changes.
Do you think for something like say the

462
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:50.880
the three better rule that MLB has
a sim or tested out in something like

463
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.480
and out of the Park or something
related or in do you think that is

464
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:57.519
something that is worth considering for a
way to test some of the stuff out.

465
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:06.280
That seems amazing and I want to
play it. I think that's a

466
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:12.519
good idea. And it comes from
like the business side of your head,

467
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:15.079
not the like baseball fan side of
your head, because the baseball fan side

468
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:20.519
of your head would realize that,
like that's not how they rule. But

469
00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:22.039
yeah, I think I think it
makes a lot of sense. I would

470
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:29.159
be surprised if they had taken the
time or been able to find something that

471
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:32.440
allowed them to like look at the
confluence of all these things, because I

472
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:37.840
think I think the thing that makes
it difficult is not that any one of

473
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:42.519
these things is a challenge to quantify
or understand. Right, you can look

474
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:45.719
and see, like how many pictures
face fewer than three batters. That's very

475
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:49.760
trivial. The thing that's difficult is
looking at when you do that and you

476
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:52.800
change the roster size, and you
change the cap on number of pictures on

477
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:57.079
the roster, and you change you
know, whatever else. It is like

478
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:02.199
as those things accumulate and like start
interest secting, that's where it becomes complicated,

479
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:07.800
and that's where like the unintended consequences
happened. I don't think I guess

480
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:10.800
I say this without knowing exactly what
you can do and outside the park,

481
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:15.960
but like I'd be a little bit
surprised if Emily be Head gone to that,

482
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:24.360
to that like that's a good idea. Yeah, Like maybe they might

483
00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:30.199
have done it just the way you
would like create a situation and AlSi because

484
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:34.920
it seems to me less like simulating
the game of baseball than more like just

485
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:39.960
thinking about the ramifications. So I
am just imagining a whiteboard and a lot

486
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:45.519
of post it notes. Is it
one of those like actual white boards or

487
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:47.840
is it one of the like clear
glass boards like the people in Numbers had

488
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:55.519
like fifteen years ago numb three years
numbers. Yeah, the television show.

489
00:41:55.840 --> 00:42:01.039
Um, yeah, great question.
I think it's probably more sophisticated than post

490
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:07.760
it notes on a whiteboard. But
you know, I don't think it would

491
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:09.119
have been easy to look at the
confluence of all things. I think they

492
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:14.480
probably did quantify what they think the
impact of each of the things would be,

493
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:15.719
and they sort of held their thumb
up and we're like, Okay,

494
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:20.480
that looks like it's going to be
about enough of an adjustment for what we

495
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:25.639
want and not too much, and
like we're not worried about them, you

496
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:31.320
know, creating some kind of unintended
situation. But that's just my hunch.

497
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:39.440
Okay, Yeah, I mean it's
interesting. There's a lot to come,

498
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:47.599
and you know, I look forward
to seeing how these changes affect both the

499
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:52.599
real baseball game and our fake baseball
game, both of which we left.

500
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.920
Yeah, before we move on,
just one note. I did scroll down

501
00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:02.639
in the Cut four to the featured
headlines, and the top headline currently on

502
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:10.920
Cut four is Greg bird homeward off
Jalen Beaks in True Avian Showdown. So

503
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:21.159
I just wanted to give cut fuller
props for for that headline, which may

504
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:28.039
be the headline of the year and
it's only March. Yeah. Sorry,

505
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:31.079
you just bring that up because you
want to us to talk about fantasy birding.

506
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:37.280
Oh sure, Um, where did
I see this? I sent this

507
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:42.199
to you and I forgot already where
we found it. Oh dead Spin,

508
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:45.840
Yes, dead Spin. If you
missed this, Google go to dead Spin

509
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:52.639
and search for fantasy burdening, which
is a thing. Um. I don't

510
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:57.400
know if it's quite as strange as
a Fantasy SNL league, which we are

511
00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:06.599
in, but definitely fantasy birding is
is a pretty close approximation of my work

512
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:15.239
life and home life. So it's
confusing to me. Um, I will

513
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:19.599
say, uh, and yeah,
if you're if fantasy birding sounds like a

514
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:22.239
thing to you. It does sound
like about the best game fantasy birding that

515
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:34.039
you can possibly make. So yeah, God bless um. So meanwhile,

516
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:38.880
I think we wanted to briefly do
season previews over the next couple of weeks.

517
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:45.599
UM. But because we are you
know, probably not your first option

518
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:49.800
for season previews, we will probably
be a little quicker and a little more

519
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:52.480
loose about it. Um. And
And to start, I think we wanted

520
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:57.679
to go by league this week.
We want to talk about the nationally because,

521
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:02.559
as I say, saved the best
for last UM, So we wanted

522
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:07.159
to just briefly talk about you know, what have you, what we're looking

523
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:09.679
forward to? UM, what we
think have we think the season's gonna go.

524
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:15.280
Um. And to start kick us
off, I think we're gonna go

525
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:20.760
to our man on the street,
the average the average fan's opinion himself.

526
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:25.039
What are you? What is your
Nation league preview? UM? So when

527
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:31.360
I look into a season preview,
I like to keep it at a high

528
00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:36.679
level. I'm not a fan of
anyone particular team, but as much as

529
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:40.920
I'm a fan of baseball, I
like drama and excitement, So I'm looking

530
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:47.760
for situations where there's gonna be,
especially like late in this season, really

531
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:53.000
exciting pennant races or you know,
divisional wildcard races. And that's why I

532
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:57.360
think the National League is so fun. Um. I know, last year

533
00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:01.679
it was like super intense and at
least at times and then obviously resolves by

534
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:06.559
the end of the season, but
also like a lot of unexpected things can

535
00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:09.760
happen. And one of the things
that I've noticed is that the projected standings

536
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:14.039
depending on where you go, very
pretty wildly in a lot of situations.

537
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:16.599
I think almost everybody has the Dodgers
in the West, but you know,

538
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:21.440
in the Central and the East,
projection and systems are sort of all over

539
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:23.159
the place in terms of who they
think is going to be the best team

540
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:28.320
and how good they're going to be. And you know, I think there's

541
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:30.679
sort of a consensus that the whatever
team wins each division, it's going to

542
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:34.559
be somewhere between you know, like
eighty six and ninety wins or something like

543
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:37.440
that. But you know, depending
on where you look, you'll see,

544
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:43.599
you know, in the Central either
Cubs or Cardinals or Brewers obviously in the

545
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:46.360
East, Phillies or Nationals. I
even saw Braves in a couple of places.

546
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:51.199
So I just think, like,
from the highest level perspective, the

547
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:54.880
National League will be pretty exciting to
see how all those different teams shake out.

548
00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:59.800
And you know, whether the Cubs
end up proving pacoda or wrong.

549
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:06.440
Uh, you know how the Phillies, um, you know free agent rebuild

550
00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:10.880
went, how the youth coming up
for the Nationals ends up doing all those

551
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:14.840
kinds of things. I think,
um, you know, I'd be interesting

552
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:16.840
to see it. And that's that's
sort of the extent of my National League

553
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:21.320
preview. And I think that's that's
a good sort of one minute take for

554
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:29.679
the casual almost fan used to be
fan, has has has been fan.

555
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:32.639
We need to amalgamate that into something
more clever. But you get what I'm

556
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:38.280
saying. That was a surprisingly upeat. Well you expected it to be more

557
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:42.920
sour and cynical. I don't know
what I expected. But the world is

558
00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:52.519
ending in the National League is trash. The Dodgers are gonna win. Yeah,

559
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:58.679
Dared just thought I was going to
be more down on things. That's

560
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:04.119
how I feel. Um, yeah, no, that I think that's true.

561
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:08.519
I think there's a lot too.
Uh, there's lots like about the

562
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:13.119
National League, which leads me to
my first question. I think you were

563
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:17.039
talking about different protection systems. Um, what would like annoy Cubs fans the

564
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:21.320
most this season? Like, do
you think they should end the season?

565
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:25.280
I'm thinking last day of the season, like they have seventy nine wins and

566
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:30.119
they should like actually have to figure
out whether they want to win eighty and

567
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:34.679
then they can go like see told
you so, which I feel like would

568
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:44.639
be really so many jokes some on
Yeah. I mean. The other thing

569
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:49.000
that's interesting is like a lot of
these projection systems have the gap between the

570
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:52.679
best team and the worst team except
for the Marlins. I guess, um,

571
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:54.840
maybe like the worst team in the
West, you know, especially in

572
00:48:54.880 --> 00:49:00.559
the Central like five teams all pretty
close together. If it ends up being

573
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:01.920
that, like five teams are separated
by ten games at the end of the

574
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:06.920
season, that's going to feel like, I think, a pretty exciting run

575
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:10.480
right down to the finish. So
right, I think you can like fourteen

576
00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:16.119
teams are currently going for it,
yeah, which is um which is probably

577
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:22.079
on the part of some teams,
but yeah, totally um So, Jared,

578
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:27.800
any high level thoughts do you want
to start going division by division?

579
00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:31.239
H yeah, I mean we can
just I mean, the only division thing

580
00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:34.719
is I don't even I was gonna
say this is a warm take, but

581
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:37.000
I don't even know if it is. And maybe I'm just it's because I'm

582
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:40.320
in the uh the Naly's territory.
But I sort of going to say that

583
00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:44.039
the Central is going to be more
exciting than the East. Yeah, I

584
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:46.480
think the ESSENTI will be more exciting
than the East. Two. Um,

585
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:52.239
it's interesting. I don't know that
I agree with that. I think it's

586
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:55.119
going to be probably tighter race.
I feel like, wait, what do

587
00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:59.880
we mean by exciting then? To
me, well, to me, it's

588
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:04.920
not just the race. I think
the NALY East has the more fascinating teams.

589
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.880
To me, the better teams,
like the more talented teams, more

590
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:14.320
talented and perhaps more flawed, um, and easier to troll fan basis,

591
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:21.000
So in that sense, like somebody
is going to be miserable, so somebody's

592
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:28.199
easier to troll than Cubs fans.
Those kids are not that easy to troll

593
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:30.360
because they have expected losing for a
very long time and now they expect winning

594
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:37.599
for a very long time, and
it's just it's hard. I think I

595
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:43.840
believe in you. Yeah, you've
got a lot of practice trolling baseball fans.

596
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:51.239
Thank you, Jared. With any
particular storylines that you thought of for

597
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:55.159
the NL Eastern Central um that made
you decide that, like your warm take

598
00:50:55.239 --> 00:51:00.440
was that the Central would be more
exciting, Um, I mean, I

599
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:01.840
don't. I don't know about the
storylines in general. Just I guess I've

600
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:06.679
been hearing a lot of how any
team can win the in the least,

601
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:10.760
but I think that Marlins can.
But any team could win the inal Central.

602
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:15.519
H Wait, the Reds could win
the Innal Central. Yeah, I'm

603
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:20.960
not saying they will, but I
think I could build a reasonable case for

604
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:24.559
it without like I think able the
reason the case for it that that's not

605
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:28.519
totally insane. Yeah, I think
it's easier for me to build a case

606
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:30.760
for the Reds and the Pirates at
this point. Actually, that's fair.

607
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:36.239
I'm seeing a couple of people have
the Pirates worse than the Reds, but

608
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:40.280
like a bunch of a bunch of
places have like all of like both of

609
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:46.559
them in the well and whatever the
other that third place team is like right

610
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:52.920
around five hundred. Yeah, I
think the Pirates probably have a higher four

611
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:57.000
than the Reds do, but maybe
a lower ceiling. So I think I

612
00:51:57.079 --> 00:52:00.880
could see a way that the Reds
break out basically if they're pitching just all

613
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:05.320
comes together at once, um,
which does not seem likely. But you

614
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:07.599
know, no, But I mean
that's why sometimes I think it's it's more

615
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:12.039
useful to think of these things instead
of even looking at just projected when the

616
00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:15.719
losses is like the distribution of possible
outcomes, and something like the Reds I

617
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:19.920
think has a much much more variation. You know, it's got a wider

618
00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:27.400
distribution than some of these other teams
are. Yeah, are there any teams

619
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:32.280
that you like more or less than
let's say your standard projection system or consensus?

620
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:42.960
I have some in the chamber.
Yeah, if that works. Um,

621
00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:45.519
I don't think the Rockies are going
to be very good this year,

622
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:52.440
and I think I don't know that
that's such a what is your barometer for

623
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:57.559
very good? Yeah? I think
I think there are. I put it

624
00:52:57.639 --> 00:52:59.719
this way, I think there are
a lot more ways that things go wrong

625
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:04.480
and right for them, because if
you look at what the Rockies are fundamentally

626
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:10.199
is just like a team based around
the success of young pitching. And to

627
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:16.280
me, that does not seem like
a super long term strategy for success,

628
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:21.559
particularly course fields. But you do
it because it Colorado, because it's young

629
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:23.199
pitches, because I mean a lot
of people are high on Marquees and Freeland

630
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:29.239
was you know good. So why
do you think that I just remember the

631
00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:32.599
Mets from twenty fifteen or even the
Bravest from a couple of years. It's

632
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:36.679
just, you know, if you
have strength and young pitching, that like

633
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:40.480
the thing the simulation can't really project
is like how many arms get shredded in

634
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:45.239
a season? Oh? I good? But yeah, yeah, like it

635
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:47.400
I'm short, right, Like if
you do Monte carl like you can,

636
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:52.639
and I'm sure there's more variability in
the Rockies performance. But you know,

637
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:55.920
I like, I think the arms
in general, and I think these arms

638
00:53:55.960 --> 00:54:02.000
in particular. It it seems worrying
to me. I think I kind of

639
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:12.360
like the Diamonbacks better. Um,
the Diamondbacks who have like essentially forgotten to

640
00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:19.559
fill a couple positions. But um, but I don't see the NLST as

641
00:54:19.639 --> 00:54:24.199
being super competitive. To be honest, I don't know if there's on the

642
00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:29.880
Diamondbacks though, right It's it's a
good question. I think, Um,

643
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:32.480
we will talk about that a little
bit. But like in terms of breakout

644
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:37.039
players, I think could tell Marte
might be a player that I like.

645
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:42.400
Um, I think I could see
David pral To holding his games. Um

646
00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:45.480
it's you know, it's hard to
imagine like a really great experience for them,

647
00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:50.280
But I think they have enough players
who I think are interesting enough.

648
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:57.159
I could see Weaver and John Duplantier
coming up perhaps being interesting. I think

649
00:54:57.199 --> 00:55:02.039
they are kind of volatile players with
some skills. I think Robbie Ray could

650
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:06.519
be great. You know, he
struck out I think the most players in

651
00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:09.320
spring training. I think he's walked
among the most players in spring training as

652
00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:13.360
well. So maybe it's the full
Robbie Ray experience, but I think he

653
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:16.239
was, you know, severely under
valued last year. I don't know.

654
00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:20.840
I'm not gonna talk myself into the
Diamonbacks so much as I think both teams

655
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:22.920
are gonna be about five hundred and
I think people have more hope for the

656
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:31.639
Rockies than that the Diamondbacks got a
pretty great new outfielder. Uh oh yeah,

657
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:37.480
no, that took me a second. I don't know if I'm going

658
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:40.760
to get used to that yet.
Um, So that that is Adam Jones,

659
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:46.159
formerly of the Baltimore Orioles. Always
at the Baltimore, always in the

660
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:54.440
Baltimore Orioles. Yeah, formerly of
the Seattle Mariners. That's very get out

661
00:55:54.480 --> 00:56:01.360
of here. Um. And in
terms of like teams that I see outperforming

662
00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:09.880
their projection is it is a ghost
to say the Cubs depends on which projection.

663
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:15.920
Um. Yeah, what about the
Cardinals. Um, it's a good

664
00:56:16.039 --> 00:56:21.280
question. Like if their young pitching
stays healthy, it seems like their offense

665
00:56:21.719 --> 00:56:28.440
is gonna be good. Right,
Yeah, I agree, And there's like

666
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:32.920
there's a lot that's good about their
offense. And the Cardinals as always have

667
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:38.199
like forty players waiting the wings who
are just like sixteenth round picks from like

668
00:56:38.440 --> 00:56:43.159
Iowa State, who are like twenty
six and ready to hit like thirty home

669
00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:49.159
runs. I don't know exactly how
that happens, but I do. Like

670
00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:52.639
I saw Edmundo Sosa it spring training. I was like, oh, you

671
00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:54.039
know, I like him a little
bit. Oh god, they just have

672
00:56:54.159 --> 00:57:00.079
a thousand of these players or like
Gyramunho is sitting around like too deep and

673
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:06.320
like, yeah, he could be
a starter. M Tyler O'Neill. Right,

674
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:08.360
they are just like a bunch of
players who are good, good,

675
00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:14.239
and deep. Um. I don't
love Miles Michelis. I don't really love

676
00:57:14.280 --> 00:57:17.639
Adam Wayne, right. I think
Carls Martinez is kind of hurt. I

677
00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:24.559
think Mike Waca is on the way
to being hurt. Um. You know,

678
00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:28.679
I don't think that's a surprise.
I think that's why the Cardinals aren't

679
00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:34.880
like locks to win this. But
it does seem like I was gonna say

680
00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:42.679
house to Cards, what's a what
is the thing I should say? Instead?

681
00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:47.199
Okay, it doesn't seem great for
them to kind of hold that pitching

682
00:57:47.239 --> 00:57:51.320
depth through the season, and we
may see a lot more picture to play

683
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:53.800
than we want out of this team. It's been a few years since I

684
00:57:53.880 --> 00:57:57.960
paid real attention to baseball, and
I was pretty shocked that Adam Wainwright was

685
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:01.000
still in the rotation for the Cardinals. I was shocked, and I have

686
00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:06.840
you could have got got me a
bead decent of sum of money that he

687
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:16.599
was not pitching anymore. He's thirty
seven now, yeah, thirty seven yeah,

688
00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:22.039
And I mean he's probably there,
you know, for some of the

689
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:25.519
season for like leadership, because the
end of his season was not as bad

690
00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:30.719
as the beginning. Um, you
know, I don't think he's going to

691
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:36.760
necessarily end the season on the team. But you know, they I don't

692
00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:42.079
think they have as much depth as
I might expect. But obviously we haven't

693
00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:49.199
talked about Jack Flaherty, who is
I think everyone's favorite breakout pick and third

694
00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:55.840
round Uh you know Fantasy Baseball pick. You hit at him too, You

695
00:58:55.960 --> 00:58:59.840
just like killed the rest of the
rotation. No, I mean I agree

696
00:58:59.880 --> 00:59:02.360
with everyone else, like he's very
exciting to watch, but yeah, the

697
00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:07.440
rest of the occasion is not really
Guys who I am tracking or enjoyable,

698
00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:16.519
find enjoyable, um, anything else. I you know, one thing I

699
00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:22.039
wanted to do is go around the
league quickly. I worked out some players

700
00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:27.840
that I feel like are my players
for each team? Oh boy, Yeah,

701
00:59:29.360 --> 00:59:35.119
and just just to go team by
team and like a quick team preview

702
00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:38.960
for each um and what we think
of them. The Brave maybe just me

703
00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:44.199
crushing their announcing teams because I have
now finally watched every team in spring training

704
00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:46.360
announcing. It's just it's just bad
this year. I do need to talk

705
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:54.000
about this somehow. Um, the
Braves are I you know, I don't

706
00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:59.639
think the Braves set themselves up very
well this offseason. But um, I

707
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.320
I think they're young. Pitching is
has been looking good so far in spring,

708
01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:07.039
so much as that means anything,
But you know, they have so

709
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:10.880
much depth and a lot of players
who I'm who I'm liking. I think

710
01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:16.079
Kyle Wright has looked better than I
thought he was. Um. I have

711
01:00:16.199 --> 01:00:22.000
been tracking Bryce Wilson all spring.
I think he might actually be the best

712
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:28.679
of the Braves young starters at this
point. I'm looking forward to him.

713
01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:30.840
The Marlins have a really interesting rotation, and I think I'm going to end

714
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:34.639
up liking about four fits of their
rotation by the end of the season.

715
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:39.760
I know, well, but there
is something to it. I don't think

716
01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:44.599
they are a dismal team. We
will get to those tomorrow or next week.

717
01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:51.239
Um, there's like the offense is
just a train wre It is just

718
01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:54.880
a real nightmare. I don't think
there's anything worth talking about there. But

719
01:00:55.440 --> 01:01:00.840
um, you know, I do
like Trevor Richards quite a bit, and

720
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:05.679
I you know, we drafted Caleb
Smith in the mock and I think there's

721
01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:10.079
some potential upside there. I have
really liked what I've seen from Pablo Lopez,

722
01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:15.360
who it looks like he's going to
win a spot of spring training perhaps,

723
01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:21.119
you know, I think that could
be three fists of an interesting rotation.

724
01:01:21.519 --> 01:01:24.480
I think Nick Nidert is a player
who have been tracking pretty closely since

725
01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:31.199
he came over, kind of a
control type pitcher who I think has actually

726
01:01:31.239 --> 01:01:36.199
performed at the upper levels, who
I'm pretty excited by. You know,

727
01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:38.440
again, like I said with the
Rockies, you're not going to do great

728
01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:42.920
if the strength the core of your
team is in young pitching. But I

729
01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:46.920
do think they have a bunch of
like number three starters that might prevent them

730
01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:55.199
from being like truly horrible this year. The Mets are I don't know what

731
01:01:55.320 --> 01:02:01.000
to say about the Mets right that
that has been a strange team. They

732
01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:07.000
they they do not strike me as
a team that has put together all that

733
01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:09.480
well. But you know, like
a kind of a fantasy version of like

734
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:15.440
let's just accumulate assets and see what
happens. M So, you know,

735
01:02:15.639 --> 01:02:20.039
I think there's a lot of players
playing the same position, players who are

736
01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:24.400
going to be out of position.
Um very bizarre. I am curious about

737
01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:28.679
I'm at Rosaria, who I have
been down on, but I will track

738
01:02:28.760 --> 01:02:31.719
him very closely. Uh, this
season. You know, I think there

739
01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:40.360
is um some breakout power potential.
Um. You know, he's not a

740
01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:44.960
very good defender in score sheet,
but maybe that will go up a little

741
01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:49.679
bit as well. Um. You
know, and I think he's one of

742
01:02:49.719 --> 01:02:53.400
the few Mets with like a solid
job and position at this point. So

743
01:02:54.159 --> 01:02:58.440
uh, you know it's interesting.
I would be, um, I'm curious

744
01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:01.159
if he breaks out, and you
know, I would kind of bet the

745
01:03:01.320 --> 01:03:07.400
under on it, um, but
I'm willing to be wrong. Uh.

746
01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:13.360
The Nationals. What do you think
of the Nationals as a nearby resident?

747
01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:17.719
Or it doesn't seem like anyone is
thrilled about them this year? The Nats

748
01:03:17.800 --> 01:03:23.320
fans are, Um are they Do
they feel like they have lost her?

749
01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:27.800
Like I know we did talk about
that a little while. Guys. Do

750
01:03:28.119 --> 01:03:31.440
they still feel confident like we got
this division? Yeah? Well I don't

751
01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:37.079
know about confident, but yeah,
I don't think I think they're they're they

752
01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:44.639
would generally say they're cautiously optimistic,
okay, always always the state you'd like

753
01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:47.599
to get their pant bais into its
right. It's the pitching for them,

754
01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:53.639
I think, yeah, not the
offense necessarily. Yeah, I mean it's

755
01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:59.840
interesting because they have like the top
end pitchers as as always, and they've

756
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:03.960
kind of filled the back end this
year with like Jeremy Hellickson Annibal Sanchos.

757
01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:10.440
According to this um, there's something
interesting about Adimal Sachas. He had he

758
01:04:10.519 --> 01:04:13.320
had like a sneaky good year last
year, and I guess anyone could be

759
01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:18.159
good now is the lesson I went
into a hyperbaric chamber. I looked at

760
01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:21.679
whatever it is that like Steve Rodder
looked at in Captain America, and now

761
01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:29.159
I'm like a number two starter.
Great, Okay, cool? Um.

762
01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:31.239
I feel like for me, like
a lot of this team is riding on

763
01:04:31.360 --> 01:04:36.000
Victor robe Less being good, and
I'm very curious to see if that is

764
01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:39.840
the case. I feel like we'll
finally have a season with him, and

765
01:04:40.039 --> 01:04:45.199
he's the player who I would be
tracking from the nationals. Um. You

766
01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:53.679
know, like I think some of
again what the MLB stack Cast podcast people

767
01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:58.400
were saying about kind of poor exit
velocities, like does he truly have any

768
01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:02.480
power whatsoever? Um, you know, that could definitely put a limit on

769
01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:08.039
his ability. He's he looked in
spring when he hit with some power,

770
01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:12.360
but I'm curious what he would do
with like a solid three hundred fifty of

771
01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:18.920
bats. Yeah. Um, the
Phillies, Um, you know, they

772
01:05:20.159 --> 01:05:24.280
some big players who I am curious
about how they're gonna do. But I

773
01:05:24.639 --> 01:05:28.039
like, basically know how Bryce Harper
is gonna He's gonna be good, right,

774
01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:31.039
He's Bryce Harper. It'll be good. Bold statement. Yeah. Um,

775
01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:36.280
you know, I feel like Nick
Pavetta is the hipster pick. Everyone's

776
01:05:36.280 --> 01:05:41.159
talking about Nick. Everyone loves Nick
Pavetta. I like him too. I'm

777
01:05:41.199 --> 01:05:44.320
gonna so I'm gonna say, like
tracking him, but I'm curious about I

778
01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:47.760
feel like this is a real make
or break season for Vince Velasquez as well.

779
01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:54.599
And um, I I have always
liked him a little more than consensus,

780
01:05:55.039 --> 01:05:57.320
but you know, my hopes have
been fading. I feel like,

781
01:05:58.760 --> 01:06:00.440
you know, this is the year
where getting side once and for all.

782
01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:06.320
If he is like a playoff caliber
starter, or if he is just like

783
01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:11.440
a setup guy who is you know, clockey innings for a while, or

784
01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:15.400
Daniel Cabrera. Um, you know, I think I feel like there's more

785
01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:21.400
there, but it just hasn't been. Um. I had totally forgotten about

786
01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:28.280
Daniel Cabrera. I was like I
was, I had my microphone music because

787
01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:30.599
I've been coughing. But I did
like a whole like head explode moment when

788
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:34.039
you said Daniel I don't remember.
Oh yeah, he's alive. That was

789
01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:41.880
from like when I used to pay
attention. So he's gonna put it together

790
01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:49.000
one of these seasons. Um,
the in the central I you know,

791
01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:57.320
the Milwaukee Brewers are I don't know, you know, I think the hitting

792
01:06:57.519 --> 01:07:00.480
is obviously going to be pretty solid. Um. I don't feel like there

793
01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:03.920
are a lot of players who like
I have particularly been drafting on a lot

794
01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:09.960
of teams in scoreesheet from the Brewers. UM. On the pitching side,

795
01:07:10.039 --> 01:07:15.000
I feel like there's a little bit
more action going on year. I feel

796
01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:18.920
like Brandon Woodruff has ended up on
our teams. I think Corbyn Burns hasn't.

797
01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:23.239
But is interesting. I am curious
to see, uh, you know,

798
01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:27.679
if the starters take a step forward. UM. I saw Adrian Houser

799
01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:30.960
was sent to Triple A to be
a starter. I'm curious about his future.

800
01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:34.519
I could see the Brewers having like
five different starters by the end of

801
01:07:34.519 --> 01:07:41.960
the season than they do right now. Um. The Cardinals we just talked

802
01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:45.800
about, I don't none of their
players have ended up on our teams really

803
01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:49.719
or are players who I think we
are that interested in? Um, I

804
01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:56.079
guess Tyler O'Neil is somebody who is. So I was muted. Um I

805
01:07:56.159 --> 01:07:58.920
was gonna ask you about Jimmy Neilson
on the Brewers. It seems like,

806
01:07:59.199 --> 01:08:01.400
yeah, he's coming back on an
UFN of his before. Do you think

807
01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:06.599
we're gonna see a return to form
there as he looked in this spring?

808
01:08:08.320 --> 01:08:11.400
He's behind, but I think he
just started pitching. I think he got

809
01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:15.079
into a game last week and he's
going to be a week or two behind.

810
01:08:15.960 --> 01:08:17.960
I do like him as a pick
this year again, like I feel

811
01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:23.239
like for four starters you want,
you wanted enough of them that you're you

812
01:08:23.439 --> 01:08:27.560
had don't have picture triple A,
right, so sometimes you have to take

813
01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:33.319
like your potted plant like Dan Stralis
of the world. But I you know,

814
01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:36.359
I think I also like some home
run picks, and I feel like

815
01:08:36.479 --> 01:08:45.640
Jimmy Nelson would be a pretty good
one at this point. But so sorry,

816
01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:51.720
so the Cardinals again, like Tyler
Neil Harrison Bader, I'm interested in

817
01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:55.920
if he can keep this up for
a season. I always liked the cut

818
01:08:55.960 --> 01:08:59.199
of his jib, But you know
it's a veteran team. We know what

819
01:08:59.279 --> 01:09:01.720
they are, and like I said, I'm fading almost all of their starters,

820
01:09:01.960 --> 01:09:08.880
so I don't know. I think
they will probably win the division and

821
01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:16.000
bore me the Cubs. Speaking of
boring teams, at this point, I

822
01:09:16.039 --> 01:09:18.159
don't think there's a lot of mystery
left to the Cubs. You know,

823
01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:26.960
like they are not super exciting anymore, and I guess they're still young.

824
01:09:27.760 --> 01:09:30.520
They still have fun players, but
I don't think they have a lot of

825
01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:39.920
surprising players left. I am mostly
curious about their rotation and if you Darvish

826
01:09:40.039 --> 01:09:42.800
in particular, who's ended up on
a lot of our team has bounces back

827
01:09:44.520 --> 01:09:46.840
the spring has not been particularly hopeful. I think he had one bad start

828
01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:50.439
where he like walked the park,
which is always concern of his, but

829
01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:54.560
I feel like that was one before. I feel like from what I've been

830
01:09:54.600 --> 01:09:59.800
hearing some of the velocities back,
I'm I feel like he's somewhat undervalued.

831
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:03.199
I feel like Anatana has been somewhat
undervalued, and maybe even Cole Hammils,

832
01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:09.199
And obviously that means I am probably
closer to other projection systems than Pacoda,

833
01:10:10.279 --> 01:10:19.720
which is unfortunate because obviously I would
like the Cups too poorly. The Pirates

834
01:10:19.960 --> 01:10:23.720
have become like a deeply boring team
as well. This is what I was

835
01:10:23.720 --> 01:10:28.520
talking about with them. With the
Central Division, I feel like the teams

836
01:10:28.600 --> 01:10:33.600
are less interesting, probably except for
the Reds, because they've just stayed in

837
01:10:33.680 --> 01:10:39.279
stasis for a while, and teams
that Saint Stasis don't interest me quite as

838
01:10:39.399 --> 01:10:44.880
much. I am curious about Chris
Archer. I feel like he's been a

839
01:10:44.920 --> 01:10:48.359
player that we've been targeting, and
I feel, you know, I guess

840
01:10:48.439 --> 01:10:55.119
the question is whether like he's had
a couple of seasons in a row where

841
01:10:55.159 --> 01:11:00.800
he's kind of severely underhit his FIP
and you know, like when a player

842
01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:03.800
does it three times a row,
sometimes they were like, well that's who

843
01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:11.199
he is now, but sometimes it
might actually be just rolled tales three times

844
01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:15.479
in a row. I do think
he has probably a bad fastball, But

845
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:21.840
you know, also maybe getting out
of that Fuddy Duddy Rays organization and into

846
01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:28.800
the Pirates Progressive organization is really gonna
change things for him. Is that a

847
01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:33.439
control? I don't know. The
Reds have been the most fun in the

848
01:11:33.479 --> 01:11:39.600
mission by far, just they've been
the team I've been interested in, you

849
01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:45.479
know, exciting young players everywhere they
have. Their pitching is not so hot,

850
01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:47.279
but I feel like they have a
wave of pitchers coming behind this one.

851
01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:53.000
You know, I think a lot
of players who haven't been on the

852
01:11:53.039 --> 01:11:56.039
stage for a while. I don't
really think it's going to work out for

853
01:11:56.119 --> 01:12:00.520
them the way they think it is, but I'm I'm glad to see that

854
01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:03.720
they're actually going for it. It
feels fun and different. The player I

855
01:12:03.800 --> 01:12:10.760
marked for them, obviously is Jesse
Winker, whom we have been tracking for

856
01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:16.319
a breakout for some time, and
I think that'll do it. Not Queak,

857
01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:23.359
Yeah, hel Pueak is great.
He is fun. I have not

858
01:12:23.439 --> 01:12:26.399
gotten used to seeing him in Red
yet, and I don't know that I

859
01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:30.800
ever will. Yeah, especially since
I think there's like a seventy percent chance

860
01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:32.560
the Reds are gonna be like threey
and thirty five and he's gonna be traded

861
01:12:33.840 --> 01:12:40.520
by June. But you know,
he's a person who deserves a bigger stage.

862
01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:44.079
But I don't think he's like as
unknowable as a player. I think

863
01:12:44.119 --> 01:12:47.680
there is a version of Jesse Winker
that just like the power finally comes and

864
01:12:48.880 --> 01:12:56.359
he's a superstar. I wish I'd
be excited to see diving backs we talked

865
01:12:56.359 --> 01:13:00.239
about. I do think could tell
Marte is a breakout pick. I like

866
01:13:00.439 --> 01:13:03.600
leek Weaver in the rotation, and
like a few other players. I think

867
01:13:03.640 --> 01:13:10.399
they have some upside again, like
probably upside from a lower base in the

868
01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:15.800
card, and the Rockies have more
downside from a higher start. So I

869
01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:17.399
do think they'll end up in roughly
the same place. But I would rather

870
01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:29.079
be the Diamonbacks organization at the moment. The Rockies are. They're they're fun.

871
01:13:29.159 --> 01:13:31.560
I'm looking forward to seeing Harmon Marquez
pitch, but I don't feel like

872
01:13:31.640 --> 01:13:38.399
that is one of our players necessarily. I would like to see what Ryan

873
01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:42.159
McMahon does with a series of at
bats, and I don't know if he's

874
01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:45.720
going to get them because Garrett Hampson
is running for his job. Literally,

875
01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:50.359
he's very fast, and Brendan Rodgers
is coming up behind him. Obviously,

876
01:13:50.439 --> 01:13:54.439
then you'll still have room at first
if Daniel Murphy gets hurt again. But

877
01:13:55.319 --> 01:13:58.800
I just want to see what Ryan
McMahon is and I feel like this year

878
01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:02.720
will go a long way towards plaining
it. And I have just thought like

879
01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:10.840
the millennial version of Kelly Johnson.
H yeah, which would be a fun

880
01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:16.520
player. I've always liked Kelly Johnson
much more than consensus. The Dodgers are

881
01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:24.640
always fun, right yeah. Um
their best player is a triple a claim

882
01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:27.960
that they had this year. Who's
gonna come up mid season and hit like

883
01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:31.880
forty home runs or strike out thirty
and like, well, I didn't think

884
01:14:31.960 --> 01:14:39.119
Felix pa was good, but I
guess I guess that's just how it happens

885
01:14:39.239 --> 01:14:43.199
now. Um. You know,
other than the obvious things, like you

886
01:14:43.319 --> 01:14:46.479
know, Walker Bueler is going to
be fun to watch for however many games?

887
01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:50.600
Um, And you know, I
would like to see what most of

888
01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:54.840
these players are. I think they
have a lot of exciting stories. Um.

889
01:14:55.279 --> 01:15:01.000
I am curious about Ross trip playing
in particular who Um I think friend

890
01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:04.720
of the Pod Night Stevens has been
drafting steadily in every league I see unate.

891
01:15:05.479 --> 01:15:10.079
Um. I you know he ruster
Play made the All Star team last

892
01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:14.119
year, so I guess that's not
quite a breakout. But um, I

893
01:15:14.279 --> 01:15:17.479
do think there is an aspect where
he has been underdrafted because he's kind of

894
01:15:17.520 --> 01:15:20.359
a swing man. But he probably
could have a job by the end of

895
01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:25.159
the year. You know, it's
always hard to say. It's always hard

896
01:15:25.159 --> 01:15:29.640
to say whether being a starting pitcher
for the Dodgers is like a good thing

897
01:15:29.760 --> 01:15:31.439
or not, because they'll just throw
you into like the sixth inning in the

898
01:15:31.439 --> 01:15:34.840
playoffs. Anyways, Like, oh, well, the world has changed.

899
01:15:35.680 --> 01:15:41.560
The Giants are so depressing. Yeah, I feel like they are the most

900
01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:45.239
depressing team in baseball. Uh,
it's okay. You guys won three World

901
01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:48.079
Series. You you can have a
boring team for a few years. But

902
01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:54.840
there's just like, at least at
least the Orioles are like hilariously dismal,

903
01:15:57.520 --> 01:16:00.640
Like this team is just like old
and bad, and like maybe there's a

904
01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:04.640
way in which they like pull it, like they don't have you know,

905
01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:10.079
I could see a world where like
Buster Posey and brand Crawford and Evan Longoria

906
01:16:10.119 --> 01:16:13.439
stay healthy for a year and like
they surprise a little bit, but then

907
01:16:13.479 --> 01:16:17.760
they're just like old and good or
old and Okay, I don't see I

908
01:16:17.840 --> 01:16:20.960
don't see a world where they're like
exciting. Who is that is that a

909
01:16:21.039 --> 01:16:29.960
ghost of Evan Longoria? Yeah,
well you're talking about how they won a

910
01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:31.880
bunch of World Series. I was
like, yeah, but Evan evn't didn't

911
01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:40.439
win any World Series. Oh boy. Um. Yeah, so I had

912
01:16:40.439 --> 01:16:43.239
a really hard time finding a player
that we've been drafting a lot of leagues

913
01:16:43.279 --> 01:16:47.000
from them. I like Brandon Crawford. He's he is our backup shortstop at

914
01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:50.760
a bunch of leagues, just because, um, you know, Scorre sheet

915
01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:56.119
over values or perhaps correctly values his
defense. I think over values his defense

916
01:16:56.119 --> 01:17:00.760
in particular. But um, you
know, I like he is a starter

917
01:17:01.279 --> 01:17:04.359
who still has maybe some ability.
Um, We've been ending up with Drew

918
01:17:04.359 --> 01:17:08.640
Pomerans in a bunch of leagues,
um or at least one that I know

919
01:17:08.760 --> 01:17:12.880
of, and I think target him
in a couple others. Uh. I

920
01:17:13.640 --> 01:17:15.520
Again, that's just kind of the
innings and like a little bit of upside.

921
01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:19.359
There's just not a lot going on
that I'm excited about here. But

922
01:17:19.439 --> 01:17:23.000
that brings us to our last team, the Padres. Uh. And I

923
01:17:23.319 --> 01:17:26.960
just had as my notes for this
team, um, the San Diego Padres.

924
01:17:27.600 --> 01:17:35.000
I am excited and all I plan
on watching them a bunch of this

925
01:17:35.079 --> 01:17:40.439
year. This is it's a fun
team. They have so many, um,

926
01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:45.840
talented and young and exciting players.
I don't know that they're good yet,

927
01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:47.760
Um you know, they could be
a year away. They could be

928
01:17:47.840 --> 01:17:51.800
the Cubs. There's of twenty fifteen, you know what I mean, or

929
01:17:51.880 --> 01:17:56.720
the Astroid Like there there's a lot
to look at, and you know,

930
01:17:56.760 --> 01:18:00.199
I think we're gonna learn a lot
about you know it, Frenchie Cordero,

931
01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:04.760
is it, fronmil Reyes, is
it? Areas? You know? Who

932
01:18:04.960 --> 01:18:10.000
is going to break out? I
think Francisco Mahia is a player who we

933
01:18:10.279 --> 01:18:14.159
kind of bashed a little bit in
the mock draft and then he just hit

934
01:18:14.479 --> 01:18:16.479
the terror out of the ball the
spring. I don't know, there is

935
01:18:16.520 --> 01:18:21.920
a version of him that's really good. And the pitching side like they're like,

936
01:18:23.239 --> 01:18:26.560
I don't know, Like obviously no
one else has seen Chris Paddock the

937
01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:30.199
spring, but he's so fun.
He's so fun. Master Rama is really

938
01:18:30.239 --> 01:18:32.600
good. This is gonna be a
really good team. And they just have

939
01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:36.880
like players out there. Ear do
you remember to Nelson Lamet, Yes,

940
01:18:38.239 --> 01:18:41.560
he's back. He's just gonna be
pitching for them again and like maybe a

941
01:18:41.680 --> 01:18:45.039
number two starter. Who knows they
have like eight of them. Um,

942
01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:48.960
there's a lot going on. There's
even more beneath the surface. And if

943
01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:54.319
they ever get boring, like Fernando
Tatiste Junior is like a couple months away.

944
01:18:54.840 --> 01:18:57.600
I'm not, like, I don't
think I'm a biggest fan, but

945
01:18:57.800 --> 01:19:00.600
like, you know, so you're
gonna have the best player at that point

946
01:19:00.680 --> 01:19:05.199
in the miners come up mid season. That's always exciting, very much.

947
01:19:05.239 --> 01:19:09.159
Looking forward to the season. I
can't wait until they get the brown and

948
01:19:09.279 --> 01:19:15.039
mustard uniforms back. Padres Forever,
Padres for life. That's it. Oh

949
01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:23.760
yeah, what a quick whip around. Yeah, so hopefully. I don't

950
01:19:23.760 --> 01:19:30.640
know if that's a good analysis,
but it certainly filled time. Any other

951
01:19:30.760 --> 01:19:33.720
remaining thoughts, I have exhausted my
notebook. No, thank you. I

952
01:19:33.760 --> 01:19:38.800
think it was good. Okay.
I think, after all, the Padres

953
01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:43.279
are the team that I'm most excited
to watch. Yeah, I think that's

954
01:19:43.359 --> 01:19:46.159
fair. It's not because I was
born there. I think like all the

955
01:19:46.319 --> 01:19:50.439
like, it sounds like there's a
wide variety of possible outcomes for them.

956
01:19:50.600 --> 01:19:54.960
That's exciting, right, And there's
a version of them that wins like sixty

957
01:19:55.039 --> 01:19:59.920
games too, which is exciting.
Well, yeah, there's a lot of

958
01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:02.760
ways to be exciting. Or a
version that wins forty seven games and that's

959
01:20:02.800 --> 01:20:10.920
exciting in its own life. Yeah, there's no version that wins forty seven

960
01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:17.000
games. It's unfathomable. Yeah,
you have to be trying to be that

961
01:20:17.119 --> 01:20:20.880
bad. We'll get there next week. We just have to figure out how

962
01:20:20.920 --> 01:20:28.600
we're going to remember to preview the
other fourteen teams as well, do an

963
01:20:28.640 --> 01:20:35.680
hour just on the Orioles deep looking. Um. But with that, UM,

964
01:20:36.960 --> 01:20:40.840
what is the best thing you saw
this week? I feel like we

965
01:20:40.920 --> 01:20:44.319
could all answer this roughly the same
way since the last time we recorded.

966
01:20:44.479 --> 01:20:48.279
It's possible. I would say there's
one thing that almost made it for me.

967
01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:51.960
Okay that I want to mention.
Um. So, as I was

968
01:20:53.079 --> 01:20:59.079
poking around as you do, doing
what i'll loosely called research, I found

969
01:20:59.159 --> 01:21:04.439
this story. This is uncut for
with a clip of each Row. I

970
01:21:04.479 --> 01:21:10.000
don't know if you've seen this clip
or heard of it. So he's forty

971
01:21:10.079 --> 01:21:15.680
five years old now, and basically
the clip is just of him throwing a

972
01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:21.319
laser beam from right field. I
think it's, you know, into third

973
01:21:21.399 --> 01:21:24.720
base. It looks like on a
runner, this like trying to tag in

974
01:21:24.760 --> 01:21:31.199
advance. And as like, as
far back as my baseball fandom goes,

975
01:21:32.760 --> 01:21:35.319
I was like rooting for the Mariners
for a long time as a kid,

976
01:21:35.399 --> 01:21:40.039
and Ichi was always really exciting and
he was the kind of player that was

977
01:21:40.039 --> 01:21:43.800
super easy to root for. So
it's kind of sad that his like major

978
01:21:43.920 --> 01:21:47.199
league career is over, but it's
really amazing to see him still out there

979
01:21:47.439 --> 01:21:54.439
like doing awesome stuff. And yeah, I will concur I've been watching the

980
01:21:54.520 --> 01:21:57.760
Mariners a lot more than I expected
to this spring, just because like,

981
01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:01.640
I don't want to let it go, you know, um, and you're

982
01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:06.640
now I I am definitely gonna watch
at least the second game in the series

983
01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:13.199
just in case. Um, you
know, I think there have been better

984
01:22:13.319 --> 01:22:15.720
players than Cho in our lifetimes,
but I don't. I don't know that

985
01:22:15.800 --> 01:22:18.880
there's been one more fun. Yeah, that's a good way to say.

986
01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:25.239
Um, so I am, um, you know, sorry to see him

987
01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:29.600
go. Uh we assume. Yeah. Part of it also thinks he'll just

988
01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:36.279
play until sixty five somewhere. But
um, but you know, I'm excited

989
01:22:36.359 --> 01:22:40.159
to see the next couple of games, and I hope it's a tribute to

990
01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:45.920
one of the greatest and most extraordinary
players of our lifetime, the reason why

991
01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:51.640
baseball is good. Yeah, it's
like, uh, I was gonna going

992
01:22:51.720 --> 01:22:56.720
around about baseball being fun again,
but I'll save it. You can imagine

993
01:22:56.760 --> 01:23:02.079
what I was gonna yeah, um
yeah, so anything else I can.

994
01:23:02.279 --> 01:23:05.960
I can talk about the best thing
that I saw this week. Yeah,

995
01:23:05.960 --> 01:23:10.880
it might be the same thing,
like, yeah, yeah it was you

996
01:23:10.960 --> 01:23:18.439
guys. Oh I was gonna say
in New York. Oh no, yeah,

997
01:23:19.439 --> 01:23:23.840
I mean you guys were cool.
Yeah. We record, we record

998
01:23:23.960 --> 01:23:27.079
together, but we don't, you
know, see each other. That's why

999
01:23:27.159 --> 01:23:31.680
we do a podcast, Um,
scheduled time to talk, but um,

1000
01:23:31.960 --> 01:23:34.720
you know, it's occasionally good to
see each other. We do it around

1001
01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:40.439
a score sheet draft, of course, which is at once the best and

1002
01:23:40.600 --> 01:23:45.479
worst reason to be together because it
is a It is a seven and a

1003
01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:50.159
half hour live draft that used to
be longer. Thank you to everyone for

1004
01:23:50.960 --> 01:23:58.840
shortening it. Um. It is
like a sweet pain, and it is

1005
01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:03.439
something that I'm glad to be able
to do with friends. So it is

1006
01:24:03.479 --> 01:24:09.640
also a great reminder as to why
we don't draft scoresheet teams live. Usually

1007
01:24:10.680 --> 01:24:14.359
you all should be very happy for
the draft feature. There are just so

1008
01:24:14.439 --> 01:24:16.159
many players. There's so many players, and so many of them are bad.

1009
01:24:16.279 --> 01:24:18.920
And then you're in like the thirteenth
round and you're like, oh my

1010
01:24:19.039 --> 01:24:23.960
god, there's twenty two rounds more
of this, and we just took like

1011
01:24:24.159 --> 01:24:29.439
orgieslair, like where you know it
is. It gets dismal and you're like,

1012
01:24:29.479 --> 01:24:31.399
oh, we're just gonna be here
for six more hours looking through depth

1013
01:24:31.520 --> 01:24:35.960
charts of the Chicago White Sox middle
relief. It's not great. Yeah,

1014
01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:43.279
that was totally thing I did.
I took a nap during this draft job

1015
01:24:43.479 --> 01:24:47.119
because it was so clear that I
was going to be worthless, and like,

1016
01:24:47.279 --> 01:24:50.880
let's be honest, I was tired. I don't sleep enough. Yeah.

1017
01:24:51.239 --> 01:24:56.199
I set up like the spreadsheet that
allowed Ian to feel like he was

1018
01:24:56.279 --> 01:25:00.199
informed or informed enough, and then
past out on the couch for a little

1019
01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:04.239
while. And I only missed two
draft picks. I only missed two draft

1020
01:25:04.319 --> 01:25:09.680
picks in like I don't know,
yeah, yeah, something like that.

1021
01:25:11.840 --> 01:25:15.600
It's it's it can be rough sledding, but I was glad y'all were there,

1022
01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:17.319
So I don't know if that's the
best thing you Also this week,

1023
01:25:18.960 --> 01:25:21.359
I think it's worth shouting out like
some of the stuff we did in New

1024
01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:29.720
York because I had a specific thing. But what was your um? I

1025
01:25:29.800 --> 01:25:33.079
guess it was probably the video game
exhibit at the US moviming picture. I

1026
01:25:33.159 --> 01:25:36.840
mean, I figured that was,
um gonna overlap with yours, so I

1027
01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:41.920
was hesitant to user. But um, you know, the one thing I

1028
01:25:41.920 --> 01:25:45.720
would say is like it was basically
just like a giant trip of nostalgia.

1029
01:25:46.279 --> 01:25:50.479
So it wasn't necessarily that I'm saying, like the exhibit itself was amazing.

1030
01:25:50.520 --> 01:25:55.880
I thought it was like solid,
not amazing. UM, But you know,

1031
01:25:55.920 --> 01:25:59.640
it's basically just like they took a
bunch of video game systems that they

1032
01:25:59.720 --> 01:26:02.920
bought of eBay and like put them
down so everybody could play on them.

1033
01:26:03.039 --> 01:26:10.800
And that's that's fine. Every museum
do this exactly, It's like, and

1034
01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:15.039
there were so many more people interested
in that exhibit as a result. Right,

1035
01:26:15.079 --> 01:26:19.399
they could have very easily botched that
by making it I'd say, more

1036
01:26:19.560 --> 01:26:24.359
museum, but instead they didn't,
and I think that was part of the

1037
01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:29.319
brilliance of it. Um. The
met has so many rooms and all of

1038
01:26:29.399 --> 01:26:33.239
them are filled with art. Full
of them, not even one of them

1039
01:26:33.359 --> 01:26:39.520
to save for sports games from the
nineteen nineties and late eighties, Okay,

1040
01:26:39.600 --> 01:26:44.119
can we speaking of that? The
huge like oversight was that there was no

1041
01:26:44.680 --> 01:26:48.239
RBI baseball at this ye and I
think we should set up the exhibit for

1042
01:26:48.439 --> 01:26:55.079
a second, just so everybody,
um it is they were doing it and

1043
01:26:55.159 --> 01:26:59.680
it was the last day was of
the exhibit was the day we were there.

1044
01:26:59.800 --> 01:27:01.840
So check to see I don't know
where it's going next, but check

1045
01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:06.159
to see if it travels. It's
something like sports the history sports video games,

1046
01:27:08.039 --> 01:27:14.520
um and oh boy, there were
so many of them except oh,

1047
01:27:14.560 --> 01:27:17.680
there's also no Techmo right well,
there was no playable Techno. I guess

1048
01:27:17.960 --> 01:27:23.720
there was like a shout out to
Techmo on the wall, but I would

1049
01:27:23.760 --> 01:27:29.680
have played nothing else in Techmo super
Bowl. Some people like Techmobo Bowl and

1050
01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:31.800
Techmobo Tacks and that was like before
by time. I think Techno super Bowl

1051
01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:35.399
was where it really shined. You
could pick every team. They had eight

1052
01:27:35.479 --> 01:27:43.640
plays instead of four. I wish
they had ice hockey for a tari Ice

1053
01:27:43.680 --> 01:27:49.279
hockey was a great game, Like
what do you have an ice hockey lineup?

1054
01:27:50.680 --> 01:27:56.000
So nothing nothing Nintendo's Nintendoom Sceny guys
are the fat chevy guys are the

1055
01:27:56.039 --> 01:28:00.560
guys in between you were playing with
you as kids, Jared, Yeah,

1056
01:28:00.640 --> 01:28:01.359
no, I mean that's a fantastic
game that should have been there. Two

1057
01:28:01.600 --> 01:28:04.880
game me wrong. I suck you
for Atari was I think two v two

1058
01:28:05.439 --> 01:28:09.119
but it was Atari, so there
were there were no attributes to the players.

1059
01:28:09.159 --> 01:28:15.039
It was just TV two. It
was amazing. Um yeah, so

1060
01:28:15.680 --> 01:28:19.399
you do you all have a game
that you were most nostalgic for, perhaps

1061
01:28:19.479 --> 01:28:26.319
that you saw there I think out
of ones that I saw so he didn't

1062
01:28:26.319 --> 01:28:28.840
actually get to play it, But
NBA Jam was there. I thought that

1063
01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:31.119
was a good a good catch,
like it would have been a huge oversight

1064
01:28:31.199 --> 01:28:35.079
if that hadn't been there. Um. And I also really liked NFL Blitz.

1065
01:28:36.800 --> 01:28:42.199
NFL Blitz was always like like I
think all my friends preferred Madden and

1066
01:28:42.279 --> 01:28:45.560
I was like, no, like
I don't need any of that. NFL

1067
01:28:45.640 --> 01:28:49.399
Blitz was exactly the football game that
I wanted, and it was just as

1068
01:28:49.479 --> 01:28:53.800
fun as I remember. That's great. It feels like sports games have gotten

1069
01:28:53.800 --> 01:28:59.159
away from that so severely, and
like just there is something to like tech

1070
01:28:59.359 --> 01:29:02.640
siber Ball or NFL, but just
like you know, and maybe there is

1071
01:29:02.720 --> 01:29:08.479
like some lesson for our for like
a sim to just like pare it down

1072
01:29:08.520 --> 01:29:13.640
to the essentials and just like crush
it make it fun. Yeah. Yeah,

1073
01:29:13.640 --> 01:29:15.680
I feel like Rocket League did that. Yeah, that's yeah, that's

1074
01:29:15.720 --> 01:29:20.119
a good point. Um, Jared, did you have a favorite or most

1075
01:29:20.159 --> 01:29:24.840
nostalgia game? Uh? Well,
might have been a Gritski sixty four.

1076
01:29:25.079 --> 01:29:29.680
I put a lot like going.
Uh there's also that handheld baseball game with

1077
01:29:29.800 --> 01:29:31.279
the buttons by your left and right
thumbs. What is it? I feel

1078
01:29:31.279 --> 01:29:35.319
that's called as my mantel? Right, Yeah, it was it the the

1079
01:29:38.399 --> 01:29:45.680
yeah electronic baseball let. Yeah,
um, yes, it's I don't know,

1080
01:29:45.880 --> 01:29:48.279
like I can't say you were excited, but I can say you were

1081
01:29:48.319 --> 01:29:56.800
as excited as I see you to
see that it was really No, it

1082
01:29:56.880 --> 01:29:59.760
was like a special moment because I
didn't have that connection you just I just

1083
01:30:00.119 --> 01:30:04.520
I was like, oh wow,
it was like something visceral yet that I

1084
01:30:04.640 --> 01:30:06.960
hadn't seen it. I mean it
must have been man, you know,

1085
01:30:08.039 --> 01:30:13.119
like twenty five years at least more. Yeah, exciting. Um for me,

1086
01:30:13.760 --> 01:30:21.479
definitely NHL ninety four the game that
cemented my bizarre and um inexplicable Vancouver

1087
01:30:21.560 --> 01:30:27.640
Canucks fandom. Babel Burret was so
good, Trevor Lindon, Courton Hall bro

1088
01:30:27.840 --> 01:30:31.079
it was. It was good.
What a good team. Um. And

1089
01:30:31.439 --> 01:30:36.159
I will also give a shout out
to base Wars certainly my favorite baseball game

1090
01:30:36.399 --> 01:30:42.840
of the Nintendo era. Um oh
and sorry, yeah I was. I

1091
01:30:43.000 --> 01:30:45.640
was. It turns out I was
no longer good at the game, but

1092
01:30:45.279 --> 01:30:48.520
when I was six, I was
really great at it because I didn't play

1093
01:30:48.560 --> 01:30:54.479
it as a baseball game. I
played it as essentially Mortal Kombat, where

1094
01:30:54.800 --> 01:30:58.960
I got a So the caceed of
base Wars. If you haven't played it,

1095
01:30:59.079 --> 01:31:01.239
it is bonkers. I suggest you
get an emulator just for it.

1096
01:31:02.720 --> 01:31:08.159
It is a game where robots play
baseball and if they ever end up,

1097
01:31:08.880 --> 01:31:13.359
tags have been outlawed. Instead of
tags, the teams, the players just

1098
01:31:15.039 --> 01:31:19.840
I don't know, like shoot each
other, as though Rugnette Odor had taken

1099
01:31:19.920 --> 01:31:24.239
over the league and had decided,
like, this is how we're doing it

1100
01:31:24.319 --> 01:31:28.039
from now on, We're just going
to yeah, no tags, just like

1101
01:31:28.319 --> 01:31:32.920
violence. So you have like different
types of players, and I forget what

1102
01:31:33.039 --> 01:31:39.319
it was. There was one like
there was one of the types of robots

1103
01:31:39.359 --> 01:31:42.760
where you could just I think it
was like a sword or you could just

1104
01:31:42.840 --> 01:31:47.640
like corner a player and just get
him into the corner and like just defeat

1105
01:31:47.680 --> 01:31:51.479
them. And so what I would
do as a six year old is I

1106
01:31:51.520 --> 01:31:59.079
would get a team of that type
of player eventually and just like get into

1107
01:31:59.199 --> 01:32:05.840
rundowns until I defeated all of the
other robots enough that the other team exploded,

1108
01:32:09.039 --> 01:32:13.520
which again like, maybe not great
for pace of play, but I

1109
01:32:13.640 --> 01:32:21.520
do think rob Manfred should form and
explained that that. Sorry, there's one

1110
01:32:21.560 --> 01:32:27.960
other thing I remembered those goes my
own in the middle of your thing.

1111
01:32:28.119 --> 01:32:31.760
Was no King Grify Junior pssess Major
League Baseball. I was disappointed about that

1112
01:32:31.880 --> 01:32:35.239
too. I felt like, maybe
it's just me because I was like the

1113
01:32:35.319 --> 01:32:40.199
peak of my Mariners fandom. Um, but yeah, I was like,

1114
01:32:41.840 --> 01:32:46.079
no, not having that game was
very very sad, very sad. So

1115
01:32:46.680 --> 01:32:49.920
yeah, so sadness your favorite sports
video game in memory. If this is

1116
01:32:49.960 --> 01:32:53.840
setting you down to stout delaying and
you made it this far, God bless

1117
01:32:54.199 --> 01:32:59.119
um squirrels, exhibit like you're saying, and check out the exhibit if you

1118
01:32:59.199 --> 01:33:00.760
can. It is the best thing
you can do other than see each other.

1119
01:33:02.159 --> 01:33:06.319
So we won't keep you any longer. We'll be back soon next week

1120
01:33:06.399 --> 01:33:13.920
with an American League preview where we
cover fourteen teams in some detail and fifteen

1121
01:33:13.960 --> 01:33:20.159
teams and just a great amount of
thing. Until then, I'm Leftwood's on

1122
01:33:20.199 --> 01:33:24.279
behalf of Ben Murphy and Jared Wise. Thanks again for listening and have a

1123
01:33:24.359 --> 01:33:24.720
great day.

