1 00:00:03,399 --> 00:00:07,480 Well, hello there, and welcome in everybody, and welcome to the latest 2 00:00:07,519 --> 00:00:11,400 addition of the Fight Freaks Unit recap, as we come your way from Las 3 00:00:11,519 --> 00:00:17,879 Vegas in the aftermath of Terrence Crawford Charence Crawford just wiping out Harold Spence on 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,600 a Saturday night at the Team Mobile Arena. I am merely be somewhat competent, 5 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,199 Host T J. Reeves. He is our insider from a Fight Freaks 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:31,039 Unite substack and from Big Fight Weekend dot Com. Hello Dan Raphael As we 7 00:00:31,039 --> 00:00:34,000 were just in the arena about ninety minutes ago at the time that we're taping 8 00:00:34,039 --> 00:00:40,240 this and cannot say enough One what an atmosphere and two what a butt whipping. 9 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,479 I'll use that phrase. Welcome, Good to have you. What are 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:48,000 your thoughts for what we just saw with a ninth round TKO by blud Crawford. 11 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,439 What can you say? It was as impressive as a performance as I 12 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,679 have seen in my time writing about boxing. It's not just my time writing 13 00:00:55,679 --> 00:00:58,560 about boxing, just watching box of my whole life and reading about boxing in 14 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,640 the history books from way before I ever start watching boxing. When you talk 15 00:01:00,679 --> 00:01:04,959 about a big time fight with high stakes and the world watching and everything on 16 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,959 the line. The title of the champion. You know, in this case 17 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,280 undisputed. I mean back in the old days there was one belt. Whatever 18 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:17,359 this is for undisputed, undefeated, pound for pound, worldwide audience fight. 19 00:01:17,359 --> 00:01:22,079 There he's been talking about for for five years against a guy that you know 20 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,000 as your natural rival. You've cleaned out the way class both of you, 21 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,120 two guys with each other, and then you finally fight, and you don't 22 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:32,200 just win that's big enough, but you lay waste to the guy. So 23 00:01:32,239 --> 00:01:34,359 as we're walking out of the arena, we were talking to friends of ours 24 00:01:34,359 --> 00:01:37,400 that we were walking with, and one of the people that hasn't been around 25 00:01:37,439 --> 00:01:40,120 the sport as long as I have was asking me, you know, of 26 00:01:40,159 --> 00:01:42,439 all the fights that you've covered, can you think of a fight that was, 27 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,959 you know, at a high stakes fight. And I'm not talking about 28 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,319 something just regular fights, just a big, big fight that was perceived as 29 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,760 like a really close fight going in or perhaps Eden, where the winner scored 30 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,599 the upset and did so in absolutely devastating fashion. I came up with a 31 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,319 few that go in the same level as but this was probably bigger than the 32 00:02:01,319 --> 00:02:05,000 ones I'm about to mention because the title the fights I'm gonna mention to you 33 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:09,000 weren't necessarily for a pound for pounds supremacy, which this was all due respect. 34 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,639 In a way, those fights weren't for all the four belts. Those 35 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,800 fights weren't where both combatants were undefeated. So I'll name a couple or on 36 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,719 name three or four in my time. I'm sure if we went back in 37 00:02:19,759 --> 00:02:22,840 history week and come up with more. One of them I think about is 38 00:02:22,879 --> 00:02:27,400 Manny pack Out laying waste to Oscar Dealoya and a completely one sided destruction in 39 00:02:27,439 --> 00:02:30,520 a fight in which Banni pacy Out was the underdog, he was moving up 40 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,039 two weight divisions and beat the living shit out of Oscar de Laoya. Now 41 00:02:34,039 --> 00:02:37,479 people want to take revisionist history and say Oscar was coming down and Wade he 42 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,000 was past his prime. He wasn't as bad as as good as he was. 43 00:02:39,879 --> 00:02:44,080 That's fine. I was there. Everybody was shocked when that fight was 44 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,439 made. It was a deathmatch and it wasn't gonna be It wasn't gonna be 45 00:02:46,439 --> 00:02:49,439 Oscar that was the one that got killed. It was gonna be Pacio. 46 00:02:49,759 --> 00:02:53,759 So that's one. There's Bernard Hopkins toward to force against Tito Trinidad and two 47 00:02:53,759 --> 00:02:58,919 thousand and one to become the undispeed the middleweight champion in Madison Square Garden. 48 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,360 Two weeks after nine to eleven, there was Bernard Hopkins doing a similar devastation, 49 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:07,240 although went the route instead of a knockout against Kelly Pablick at light at 50 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,520 one hundred and seventy pound catchweight my recollection, where he was a lineal champion 51 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,240 at one seventy five, but Pablick was moving up from one sixty, was 52 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,400 favored in the fight, and he completely annihilated him and won every single round 53 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,159 of the fight. And there's of course the one we have talked about in 54 00:03:22,199 --> 00:03:28,240 the past, our boy Winky Wright stepping in with Tito Trinidad and completely wiping 55 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,319 out and making his head look like a bobblehead, uh for for twelve rounds. 56 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:36,360 And then there's a fight like this, where is the two best guys 57 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,199 in boxing or two of the three best guys in boxing, or you know, 58 00:03:38,199 --> 00:03:42,800 I certainly at that upper echelon level. And it wasn't like he just 59 00:03:42,919 --> 00:03:49,120 won Crawford. He kind of like won the first round on two judges scorecards. 60 00:03:47,879 --> 00:03:53,240 Uh Spence did one judge had at first for Crawford. I gave Spence 61 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,919 the first round, but you could you could easily given Crawford the first nothing 62 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,759 happened. I actually looked at the punch stats afterwards, just as as just 63 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,719 a get an idea. They had Crawford landing two punches in the round and 64 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,479 Spence landing five punches in the round, and you know, when nothing happened, 65 00:04:04,479 --> 00:04:08,520 you could have Mayben made that a ten ten round. Point is that's 66 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,479 the only thing you could even like logically probably give to Cross Spence. I 67 00:04:11,479 --> 00:04:14,759 think one judge gave Spence one other round. The judge that didn't give him 68 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,519 round one gave him like round three or something like that. But the point 69 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:24,839 was he won basically every second of the fight. He knocked him down for 70 00:04:24,879 --> 00:04:27,680 the first time of his career, he knocked him down for the second time 71 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,519 in his career. He knocked him down for the third time in his career. 72 00:04:30,519 --> 00:04:33,600 His legs were messed up from like around maybe like fourth or fifth round 73 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:39,480 on. He just couldn't stay steady. I mean, it was a historic 74 00:04:39,519 --> 00:04:42,560 performance, all right, So you gave us a lot there. Again, 75 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,560 let me say at the outset here, we're doing this after the Crawford win. 76 00:04:46,639 --> 00:04:47,800 Hell, I'm where we're doing it from this set the scene. We 77 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,639 are setting the scene that we're doing this from the Media hotel and we're right 78 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:56,600 next to the T Mobile arena. Let's I'm gonna tell them. We're in 79 00:04:56,639 --> 00:05:01,040 my room. TJ's on my couch. I'm wearing my underwear. This is 80 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,639 m I. We got to get people to real deal. We got the 81 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:10,120 big plasma TV on or whatever it is. I got Empire Strikes back on. 82 00:05:10,319 --> 00:05:13,199 They just Luke just got his hand cut off, and we're doing the 83 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,160 pod. We are doing the pod because we're here for you. By the 84 00:05:15,199 --> 00:05:18,879 way, I'm looking at my good friend from Japan who was at the fight, 85 00:05:18,879 --> 00:05:24,000 who brought me some programs. 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Having been here. 95 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,959 What a one sided uh coronation, if you will, for Terence Crawford. 96 00:05:59,079 --> 00:06:00,839 So that's what we're here to talk about. Most we'll get to a little 97 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,199 bit of the undercard and what happened earlier, and then a little news and 98 00:06:04,199 --> 00:06:06,920 a little nostalgia, and then we're gone. Dan and I may get punchy 99 00:06:06,959 --> 00:06:10,480 before this is over. I'm ready to go. We may go after each 100 00:06:10,519 --> 00:06:14,720 other with plastic silverware before it's done. Because it is late night on Saturday 101 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,439 night, after the fight before. He and I are traveling all day on 102 00:06:16,439 --> 00:06:18,319 Sunday. So we're making it work. We pull the veil back, we 103 00:06:18,319 --> 00:06:20,480 tell you how we're doing it all. So let's set the scene first. 104 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:26,199 Compare the atmosphere. They announced the crowd at over nineteen thousand. I would 105 00:06:26,199 --> 00:06:29,839 say that's fair. There were some empty seats, but it was probably ninety 106 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,959 eight percent or ninety nine percent. They call it a sellout nineteen nine hundred, 107 00:06:33,079 --> 00:06:39,079 and it was very electric. But compare it and then compare the ring 108 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,720 walk, including the surprise from Terence Crawford as he walks second, which we'll 109 00:06:43,759 --> 00:06:46,759 get into go ahead. So atmosphere wise, I thought it was fantastic because 110 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:53,199 and what makes a crowd, in my mind kind of electrifying is when it's 111 00:06:53,199 --> 00:06:56,439 not just totally one sided for one fighter or the other. I felt like 112 00:06:56,439 --> 00:06:59,439 this was a Crawford crowd, but there was a ton of Spence people there 113 00:06:59,439 --> 00:07:03,000 also, so maybe like sixty forty in favor of Crawford, but it was 114 00:07:03,079 --> 00:07:06,199 really good. I mean the energy was obviously like a lot of times it 115 00:07:06,199 --> 00:07:09,959 wasn't really not much in the undercard, but as soon as they turned their 116 00:07:09,959 --> 00:07:12,600 attention to the main event, and you know, Jimmy Lennon steps to the 117 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:15,240 mic and starts to go through the pageantry where they're gonna bring him to the 118 00:07:15,279 --> 00:07:17,120 ring, then it really perked up. And it was a hot crowd and 119 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,959 that was that made it a lot of fun. And uh about the ring 120 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:25,040 walks, so I even tweeted this Terrence Crawford won the ring walk, that 121 00:07:25,079 --> 00:07:27,279 was like doubt. It was like a ten to seven ring and you and 122 00:07:27,279 --> 00:07:30,920 I agree because, uh, the famous Eminem song from the movie eight Mile, 123 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,160 You're you're feeling me here that's now a twenty year old Are you gonna 124 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,439 sing for us? I'm not gonna wrap it. I'm not gonna sing it. 125 00:07:36,639 --> 00:07:41,040 He's singing use yourself, lose yourself, lose yourself, as the name 126 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,519 of the song from the movie eight Mile, and he's doing it live right 127 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,639 in front of Terrence kwah. And here's the best thing. Crawford revealed after 128 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:54,000 the beatdown of Errol Spence that he took a shot at just contacting Eminem Marshall 129 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,240 Mathers about would you do it live? They apparently how did he get him 130 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,519 to do like it? I don't I don't need to make some message social 131 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,040 media something they did not have a prior relation. And he said, and 132 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,879 Terence said, he recounted to us that that Eminem respond and say, yeah 133 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:11,040 doing I'm it's so how crazy, it's awesome. So Eminem brings him to 134 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,279 the ring and that was quite a moment in the arena. I mean, 135 00:08:13,319 --> 00:08:18,240 I'm up. I'm up high rayphel As, rayphel He's down with the established 136 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,839 longtime media down low I'm up high and the whole arena is on their feet 137 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,920 for Crawford coming to the ring with Eminem in front of him. So that 138 00:08:26,959 --> 00:08:31,439 was quite the moment. And then as we crescendo to the first bell, 139 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,120 how do you think that lived up to what we speculated about when the fight 140 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,639 began, because we've been waiting for this fight for several years. Yeah, 141 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,399 I mean it was fantastic. I mean I did what I've been doing. 142 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,000 I talked about it on one of the other shows we do about taking the 143 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:43,600 picture. I think we talked about on the Karen mulvany and Eric's podcast, 144 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,080 The Showtime. I think that's where we talked about it, where I made 145 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,440 sure to take my picture and and uh, taking the moment. Like I 146 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,360 tell you what, whenever I do any fight, particularly a big fight like 147 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:56,279 this, and actually today it was a little bit of a different order because, 148 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,799 for whatever reason, they would typically do the national anthem at the fights, 149 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,600 in this case would have just been one anthem because they're both from America. 150 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,159 Obviously, there's been plenty fights where they'll do if it's too foreign fighters 151 00:09:07,159 --> 00:09:09,879 will do their countries plus in America, et cetera. But for tonight's fight, 152 00:09:09,879 --> 00:09:13,679 they didn't do either anthem. I mean rather no anthem, no anthem 153 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,039 at all. But usually when the anthem is going, that's when I take 154 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,279 minute to like sort of drink in the atmosphere, look around and try to 155 00:09:18,279 --> 00:09:20,799 remember to my mind forever that you know, I'm in a great spot and 156 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,159 this is a beautiful thing that I get to be in this you know arenas 157 00:09:24,159 --> 00:09:28,159 and do what I do. Um. But even without the anthems, I 158 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,000 still took time, uh during the ring walks for both Spence and for Crawford 159 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,039 to do that to take a look around, check out behind me up on 160 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,480 top, you know, to my side and just you know, it's a 161 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,159 fleeting moment, but you wanted in your in your memory bank, and uh 162 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:43,759 it was you know this, I have to go back and double check. 163 00:09:43,799 --> 00:09:48,639 I want to say that tonight's event, Saturday Night's event, was the either 164 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,200 the thirteenth or the fourteenth boxing event to take place at Team Obian since I 165 00:09:52,279 --> 00:09:56,759 opened the building. I have covered every single one of those fights. Uh, 166 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,799 some great fights to the third fight between Ice and Fury and Deanti Wild 167 00:10:01,799 --> 00:10:03,000 they're one of them, you know, not it was a great fight, 168 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,120 but the final fight of Manny Pacio's career, we think, and you know, 169 00:10:07,159 --> 00:10:09,559 plenty of other fights, the Mellow Triple G. Yeah, of course, 170 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,360 both Cannello Triple G fights anyway, So you know, this atmosphere I 171 00:10:13,399 --> 00:10:16,519 don't think is gonna be like the Canelo Triple G atmosphere. That was something 172 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,000 else. I mean as far as their first fight in particular, but this 173 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,720 was as good as a guest. This was you know, if I could 174 00:10:22,759 --> 00:10:26,399 bottle that and like send it out as gifts to boxing fans who've never had 175 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,559 the opportunity to be in that kind of atmosphere, you know, I would 176 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,240 do that just to for being a nice guy, and I will share with 177 00:10:33,279 --> 00:10:35,840 you, and I shared this before in advance. This is the first time 178 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,559 that I've done this at Vegas. I have been at other championship fights, 179 00:10:37,879 --> 00:10:41,159 so that was something. The atmosphere definitely lived up to it. I'll give 180 00:10:41,159 --> 00:10:45,000 that a ten. And then, as you made mention at the beginning in 181 00:10:45,039 --> 00:10:48,159 the conversation, the start to the fight kind of a slow first round and 182 00:10:48,159 --> 00:10:52,399 then bam, there's a quick knockdown. It's a right from from Crawford, 183 00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:56,399 kind of behind the ear and the side of the head. He caught Spence 184 00:10:56,759 --> 00:11:01,840 flash knockdown, and the building is now jumping after that knockdown. Just pick 185 00:11:01,879 --> 00:11:07,080 it up from from that moment, because that was a bit stunning that quickly. 186 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,799 He didn't come close to knocking him out at that point, but it's 187 00:11:11,799 --> 00:11:15,039 still it got everybody's attention. Yeah, I think at that point you sort 188 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,759 of figured, you know, Errol is gonna be arrow and he's gonna bounce 189 00:11:16,759 --> 00:11:20,120 back and he's gonna get back in the fight, even if Crawford is gonna 190 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,799 maybe you know, look like he's winning or putting rounds to the bank. 191 00:11:22,799 --> 00:11:24,759 But at some point, at least my thought was, okay, you know, 192 00:11:24,799 --> 00:11:28,960 it happens, knockdowns. You got two two great fighters, and and 193 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,840 then that happens. But at some point Spence is gonna shake it off and 194 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,240 he's gonna be able to come back and have a little bit of a moment. 195 00:11:33,279 --> 00:11:35,919 His own offense is spurt. Maybe you know, land a good solid 196 00:11:35,919 --> 00:11:39,879 shot, send him to the rope, something that's gonna make this a little 197 00:11:39,879 --> 00:11:41,960 bit of an ebb and flow, a little bit of a back and forth. 198 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:45,799 And it just never happened. You know, he never could get out 199 00:11:45,799 --> 00:11:48,639 of like second gear. Maybe even first gear. Meanwhile, you know, 200 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,200 Crawford's you know, humming on, you know, all cylinders pretty much from 201 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,600 the moment of that knockdown. Uh. You know, a lot of the 202 00:11:54,639 --> 00:11:58,039 conversation prefight was that Terence is a slow starter. Well, I guess tonight, 203 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,320 slow starter me. You know, you know, a halfway decent first 204 00:12:01,399 --> 00:12:05,039 round and then it was off to the races because after that, you know, 205 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,000 he's putting the rounds in the bank. And it wasn't like he sat 206 00:12:07,039 --> 00:12:09,399 on his lead or anything as the fights going on. I mean, but 207 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,279 it's one round after another and you're just like Errol is getting himself in a 208 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,960 big, big hole. And then you know, with a knockdown, that's 209 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,159 obviously a point there. I thought this, I thought this was key where 210 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,440 Crawford was scoring again in the fourth round. In the fifth round, he 211 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:30,080 bloodied Spence his nose. Spence started to get a little glassy eyed Dan from 212 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,480 what we were seeing, and Spence finally caught Crawford. I believe it was 213 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,679 in like the fourth or the fifth round, with a good left coming in 214 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,320 and Crawford didn't move, he didn't buckle, he didn't go backwards. I 215 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,200 don't think that was everything, mister Rayphiel, I'd defer to you, but 216 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,639 I think at that moment Crawford realized he can't hurt me. He cannot hurt 217 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:52,799 me tonight. So now it's a matter of how much punishment can Errol take. 218 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,480 And he lasted until the ninth round, but he took a ton of 219 00:12:56,519 --> 00:12:58,720 punishment. And the thing that bat it was the punishment. I mean, 220 00:12:58,799 --> 00:13:01,720 yeah, he got hit with those clean shots that put him down that you 221 00:13:01,759 --> 00:13:07,399 know, the right hook was was on point. But Terence Crawford, and 222 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,000 he talked about this in his post fight comments, delivered a monster jab all 223 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,639 through the fight. Yes, so now Errol Spence one of his best attributes 224 00:13:13,759 --> 00:13:20,639 his his jab. So two things. One, Crawford completely negated Errol Spence's 225 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,559 jab. It was not a weapon at all, whatsoever he may have landed 226 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,399 him. I didn't look closely at the stats in terms of that, but 227 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,440 he didn't. His jab was not part of the fight at all. So 228 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,279 he took away one of his opponent's best weapons. On top of that, 229 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,240 he took a weapon of a jab, which you know, Terence has never 230 00:13:37,279 --> 00:13:39,840 been known. It's sound like anybody thought he doesn't have a good jab. 231 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,120 But I don't remember being in seeing fights of terrences or covering them. Where 232 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,320 the headline, if you will, as the jab. Well, the headline 233 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,399 from this fight in terms of what was best for him was the jab because 234 00:13:50,399 --> 00:13:52,120 it set those other shots up, the ones that knocked him down. It 235 00:13:52,159 --> 00:13:56,240 was a very stiff, firm powered jab. And he talked about how in 236 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,360 camp they practiced I guess what he calls like a flick jab. But they 237 00:14:00,399 --> 00:14:03,360 know that Errol has a really good job and that he was very tough and 238 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,720 very durable, and they wanted to really put some more power behind it, 239 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,919 and so they altered I guess a little bit of the way they were practicing 240 00:14:09,919 --> 00:14:11,039 it in there, sparring and on the bags and all the things they do 241 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,840 to get ready for the fight. And his job came out. You know, 242 00:14:13,879 --> 00:14:18,480 I think I'm watching like Larry Holmes a job because he was hitting him 243 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,200 with the shot and it wasn't like just to find his range. It was 244 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,480 like knocking his head back. And Spence was like, you know, it 245 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,840 wasn't quite on the level as we mentioned earlier, I was a winky getting 246 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:31,159 his head knocked. Knock him back, Tito Trinidad said, But he was 247 00:14:31,919 --> 00:14:33,840 the job was like a power shot in many respects, so he was getting 248 00:14:33,919 --> 00:14:37,120 hit with the power of the real power shots and the jab was not helping 249 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,159 that or whatsoever. So that said everything else up. And then of course 250 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,840 came round seven. He got a knockdown early in the round that I think 251 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:48,200 was a lot more of a harder knockdown in terms of him feeling the effects 252 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,240 of it compared to what occurred in the second round. And you know, 253 00:14:50,399 --> 00:14:54,360 he was being beaten up in the seventh round, and then right before the 254 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,240 end of the round, for good measure, he gets a second knockdown, 255 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,720 makes it a ten seven round. Now, at that point you're through seven 256 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:03,720 round rounds, you've been down three times, maybe one run round, You've 257 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,159 been getting your ass kicked, and now at that point you're like there Now. 258 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,840 To me, at that moment, after round seven, my thought is 259 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,320 one thing, can can he get to the end of the fight or is 260 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,200 he gonna get stopped like it is gonna get to stop it. At that 261 00:15:16,279 --> 00:15:18,799 point, you're no longer thinking there's a rally and no, there's no, 262 00:15:20,039 --> 00:15:22,559 he's not. At that point, he's not winning the fight. This was 263 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,320 at that at once the seventh round was over because even before that happened, 264 00:15:26,679 --> 00:15:28,159 you know, when you're dealing with top fighters, like they can come back. 265 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,720 I've seen lots of fights where guys maybe give away a first half of 266 00:15:31,759 --> 00:15:33,720 fight, they come back, they do well, they get a late knocked 267 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,440 down and in a lot of drama happens and things change. But once that 268 00:15:37,639 --> 00:15:43,080 seventh round was over, my question was not about my question. My thought 269 00:15:43,159 --> 00:15:46,559 was that the result is decided. Crawford's winning going to be the champion on 270 00:15:46,639 --> 00:15:50,720 disputed. He's gonna win this fight, no question in my mind at all. 271 00:15:50,159 --> 00:15:54,120 The only question I had was is he gonna get the knockout or is 272 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,600 it gonna go twelve rounds and arrows gonna take a fucking ass kick and the 273 00:15:56,639 --> 00:15:58,960 rest of the fight. And it lasted two more rounds, and even Derek 274 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,000 James said afterwards it was rather obvious in between rounds seven and eight, eight 275 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,399 and nine that this is not going well. Listen, there was much left. 276 00:16:07,559 --> 00:16:10,320 There was a point I think it was after round four going into five 277 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,440 where the doctor they called a time out before the round got going and the 278 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,159 doctor checked him over. I don't know what was said in that spot, 279 00:16:15,159 --> 00:16:18,840 obviously, I wasn't watching the paper. You don't have the audio, but 280 00:16:18,039 --> 00:16:21,799 uh, and they didn't mention it in the in the press conference anything about 281 00:16:21,799 --> 00:16:23,840 it, and nobody asked about it. But I think they thought there might 282 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,639 be an issue even at early in the fight, because he was, you 283 00:16:26,679 --> 00:16:27,639 know, he was getting hit with a lot of punches and as we talked 284 00:16:27,639 --> 00:16:30,960 about building this up, Terrence Crawford is a tremendous puncher. Like, yes, 285 00:16:32,039 --> 00:16:33,759 it's taken me a few years to come to the realization that he's in 286 00:16:33,919 --> 00:16:38,039 a devastating puncher. He's now what forty and zero with like what thirty two 287 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,840 knockouts, just thirty one knockouts, eight straight in the welterweight division, every 288 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:48,440 welterweight. Yeah. By the way, he's also now won nineteen consecutive world 289 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:53,600 title fights covering his three weight classes, from lightweight to welterweight. I mean, 290 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,679 and you know, I have to give I have to give Errol Spence 291 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,240 credit because number one, he didn't quit. They made the referee to stop 292 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:00,960 the fight. He's got heart, big balls, much respect to him. 293 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,559 And on top of that, and this earns my ample respect for life. 294 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:15,880 There wasn't even the hint the backhanded maybe nothing whatsoever in a singular remark that 295 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,960 he made either in the ring with Jim Gray or during his fifteen minutes or 296 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,119 so that he spoke with us when he came out to do his press conference 297 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,839 after the fight, in any way made one excuse, and a lot of 298 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,799 guys ask questions, did you have trouble with the weight cut? You know 299 00:17:29,839 --> 00:17:32,039 your eye was swelling early? Could you not see out of it? Where 300 00:17:32,039 --> 00:17:33,799 you're not feeling well coming into the ring? Like were there's something off for 301 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,039 you? Like he was given that escape patch a bunch of times where he 302 00:17:38,079 --> 00:17:41,039 could have said, you know, well, I did have trouble with the 303 00:17:41,039 --> 00:17:42,000 waiter. You know what, My eye was a little bit screwed up, 304 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,680 and I was having trouble seeing that. No better man one tonight. Props 305 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,079 to Terence Proffitt. He's a great fighter. And and then he said, 306 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,440 of course he's going to exercise his rematch clause he hopes to fight him be 307 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,400 a one hundred fifty four pounds. But you know what, I remember when 308 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,599 this takes me back several years when I covered a fight between Marco Antonio Berrera 309 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,960 and Nasimhammed. I was a huge featherweight championship fight back in the early two 310 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,519 thousands at the MGM Grand And Ahmed was undefeated and was the biggest, you 311 00:18:07,559 --> 00:18:10,920 know, talker and trash talker and and uh in your face kind of guy. 312 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,240 You know so much just glitz and glamour and bravado, the whole thing 313 00:18:15,279 --> 00:18:18,920 exactly. And I thought, you know what, I want to see how 314 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,480 a man that's done all that talking and finally gets his ass handed to him. 315 00:18:23,599 --> 00:18:26,519 What's he going to react like at the post fight. Is he gonna 316 00:18:26,519 --> 00:18:30,920 come to the postfight, Is he gonna bitch about it? Is he gonna 317 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,759 give the guy credit? And I was very pleasantly surprised that Nasim Ahmed didn't 318 00:18:34,759 --> 00:18:37,519 make any excuses and he gave all the credit to Barrera. And when it 319 00:18:37,559 --> 00:18:41,039 came to Arrow Spence, you learned a lot about the character of a man 320 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,720 when he's in the lowest moment of his professional life. Without question, he 321 00:18:44,839 --> 00:18:48,440 just got destroyed and literally and they actually, you know, I've spent time 322 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,319 in these post fights where you wait thirty forty and sometimes forty five fifty an 323 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,400 hour sometimes for the guys to come out to do their press carts, you 324 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:56,640 know, for different reason, maybe they're getting stitched up. Maybe they have 325 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,079 trouble making a yearine sample. Maybe they're just you know, stewing a little 326 00:19:00,079 --> 00:19:03,920 bit, whatever it is. But Errol was out there and I don't know 327 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,759 what was it, fifteen minutes. He probably gave it, you know, 328 00:19:04,759 --> 00:19:08,880 gave a sample real quick to the commission for his drug testing. And uh, 329 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,720 and they got on with it. So he didn't say anything negative. 330 00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:15,519 I mean, I I again respect for a lot. He was class was 331 00:19:15,599 --> 00:19:19,559 class and what could he say? And uh and again we bring this back 332 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,880 just one more time to this fight, and we're gonna look a little bit 333 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,319 as to what might the future be with the rematch, and then we're gonna 334 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,400 move on. But Crawford got to be and I told you so after this 335 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:30,720 one. And I'm the first one to admit I thought Spence would win the 336 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,680 fight and Crawford just destroyed him. When I put it, I pick you 337 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,960 did you did pick Terrence Crawford. Good for you. Uh you did not. 338 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,200 You did not get the decision, but you but math lot of performance 339 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,359 by Bud Crawford. So in a fight that he could not get for several 340 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,359 years for whatever reason, it finally happened and he delivered. Man, did 341 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,960 he deliver. So let's say, before you go further, I want to 342 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,279 just go through a couple of things from the historical perspectives. You know, 343 00:19:53,319 --> 00:19:56,400 I love the history of all that. Yes, so I think, And 344 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,799 we'll get to this in a second. We'll tag this at the back. 345 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,759 He's number one pound per pound and we'll get to the We'll get to that 346 00:20:02,799 --> 00:20:03,799 in a minute. There's no doubt in my mind. He is the number 347 00:20:03,799 --> 00:20:08,839 one fighter in boxing right now period. So he becomes the first ever undisputed 348 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:14,799 welterweight champion of the four belt era. He is the first undisputed welterweight champion 349 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:19,599 since two thousand and three, twenty years since Corey Spinks, the son of 350 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,640 the former heavyweight champion Leon Spinks and the nephew of the Hall of Famer light 351 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:29,240 heavyweight and heavyweight champion Michael Spinks, when he outpointed Ricardo Mayorga in two thousand 352 00:20:29,279 --> 00:20:30,960 and three in Atlantic City to become undisputed. That was the three belt era, 353 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,079 So that's twenty years between undisputed champions. He's the first to do it 354 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,640 with the four belts. He's also a three division champion, which that didn 355 00:20:37,759 --> 00:20:41,799 change He's still the three division champion of lightweight, junior, welterweight, and 356 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,279 welterweight now. Also very historical in terms of men's boxing, he is the 357 00:20:45,319 --> 00:20:49,400 first boxer to win a four belt undisputed championship in two way classes. He 358 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:55,880 did it in twenty seventeen in the junior welterweight division with a massive body shot 359 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,920 against Julius and Dongo in the Pinnacle Arena in Lincoln, Nebraska. I was 360 00:21:00,039 --> 00:21:03,640 fortunate to be there. That was as electrifying atmosphere as it was tonight because 361 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,079 his whole hometown was there. And those are impressive stats. And I mentioned 362 00:21:07,079 --> 00:21:11,279 he's now eighteen or nineteen and o in world championship fights over three way classes, 363 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,400 nineteen victories in a row. And by the way, none of those 364 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,480 victories were close. There's not a controversial decision in there. First of all, 365 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,640 I knocked most of the dudes out and there was there's not a single 366 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,960 fight that you can think of. Now, granted, we're not gonna bs 367 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,000 to people. He fought a lot of lesser guys. I mean where he 368 00:21:27,039 --> 00:21:30,240 you know, because he couldn't get the top opponents. I'm not gonna turn 369 00:21:30,279 --> 00:21:32,799 around out suddenly give him all kind of ample credit because he beat you know, 370 00:21:32,839 --> 00:21:34,400 an old Amir Connor, you know, the shell of kell Brook, 371 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,680 or you know some of the directs that he fought at junior welterweight. But 372 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,319 that's still you know, he's proved his point. I mean, that's the 373 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,279 way I look at it. And by the way, the fact that he 374 00:21:45,319 --> 00:21:49,680 came into the ring with the fishnet, because Errol calls himself the big fish, 375 00:21:49,759 --> 00:21:52,039 like he's gonna go catch the fish and half the fish fry as he 376 00:21:52,079 --> 00:21:56,000 talked about, and he gave the credit to his stablemate, the light heavyweight 377 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,599 who was on the undercard, Steve Nelson, who comes in with the crazy 378 00:21:59,599 --> 00:22:02,880 outfits, for coming up with that. That was pretty ingenious. That's that's 379 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,920 like low and eminem. That was pretty awesome. He won the ring walk, 380 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,680 there's no doubt. And yes, eight straight knockouts as a welterweight champion. 381 00:22:08,759 --> 00:22:11,160 You don't need the judges. You don't need the judges. Your fists 382 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,400 are your own judges. Okay. So this leads to the question here we'll 383 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,319 get to the pound to pound in a second. What are we going to 384 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,839 see different in a rematch? I mean, I know Errol Spenn said he's 385 00:22:21,839 --> 00:22:26,079 gonna think about it even if the rematches at one fifty four, because this 386 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,480 is what I fundamentally come back to. And full disclosure here, peeps, 387 00:22:29,519 --> 00:22:32,039 you love this, the savages love this. On the podcast, I saw 388 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,720 Raoul Marquez, the former world champion who did the Spanish broadcast call for the 389 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,200 showtime pay per view. I saw him downstairs here at the hotel right before 390 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,920 we began talking here, just after midnight local time, and he and I 391 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,039 and he said, man, I did not expect that, he goes, 392 00:22:47,079 --> 00:22:48,759 did you expect that? I said no. I said, what were you 393 00:22:48,839 --> 00:22:49,960 saying on the air? He said, I kept saying, I'm shocked, 394 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,559 I'm shocked at how how he's dominating. And I said to Raoul, and 395 00:22:53,599 --> 00:22:56,839 now I want your take as well, what would be different even at one 396 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,319 fifty forty? He said, I gotta be honest, I don't think anythings 397 00:23:00,319 --> 00:23:02,519 different. I don't think anything different. I don't think, he said, 398 00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:04,440 I don't think Crawfords any less of a puncher at one fifty four, and 399 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,480 I don't think Spence hits him hard enough at one fifty four. I now 400 00:23:07,519 --> 00:23:11,680 pose the same thing to you mightey one. I think I think that Crawford 401 00:23:12,079 --> 00:23:15,880 is he said at the post fight that he also didn't you know, he 402 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,319 made the wait, but he has said he had some trouble, so I 403 00:23:18,319 --> 00:23:19,319 think he's gonna be happy to go up. Also, it's not like it's 404 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,200 suddenly going to become an advantage for for for Errol to have to fight it, 405 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,119 to have to fight at one fifty four because Terrence Crawford was draining himself 406 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,359 to make forty seven. Also, maybe not quite as much, but they're 407 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:36,160 both gonna have that that extra uh, you know, extra ability to have 408 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,039 an extra you know, meal or not to have to suffer as much to 409 00:23:40,039 --> 00:23:42,160 make those last couple of pounds. So it's hard to see what they can 410 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,920 do different as the jab gonna change. I don't know about that. I 411 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,039 mean, it's really hard to see. And that's one of the reasons why 412 00:23:48,039 --> 00:23:52,240 the way I hate rematch clauses because if it was a great fight like we 413 00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:53,319 all hoped it would be, and it wasn't a great fight, it was 414 00:23:53,319 --> 00:23:56,759 a great performance, um, then people would have demanded the rematch. They 415 00:23:56,759 --> 00:24:00,519 can make it. Now we're stuck with it. So it's it's Almo similar, 416 00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:03,759 it's it's not quite the same. But it's like when when Devin Haney, 417 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,599 you know, routed George Cambosis in number one and then they had to 418 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,359 go back and do it again and nothing changed. I mean he won out 419 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,119 of twenty four rounds. He won like twenty twenty one rounds, and it 420 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,000 would be perceived as almost the same kind of thing. So we think if 421 00:24:18,039 --> 00:24:21,400 they fight again in a few months, but let me ask you, like, 422 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,279 okay, Spence was like, you know, he asked somebody asked about 423 00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:26,839 the presser or maybe I don remember if they asked Crawford Spence about our people 424 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:32,119 are gonna still want to buy the rematch and and whoever I forget which one 425 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,559 it was, but were like, yeah, of course they would, But 426 00:24:33,599 --> 00:24:34,680 I don't know about that. You're telling me you're gonna fight one hundred fifty 427 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,200 four, which if you do, there ain't no titles at stake, correct, 428 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,119 which is you know you can say titles don't matter, but not charging 429 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,960 less for the paper. It's still going to be expensive. You already saw 430 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,920 what you saw, which is a one side of round. You can't even 431 00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:49,480 promote the fight on some kind of great moment for Errol in the fight it's 432 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:55,759 just I mean, it's what you. It's like, it's the it's what 433 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:00,079 you. It's we we we we want to fight so bad and now we 434 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,400 gotta take you know, the rematch on the other end. Well, right, 435 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,240 but the result is the result, and so we'll see on that part. 436 00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:07,319 Just real quick to your paper, to your pound for pound list, 437 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,319 and then we're gonna move. I don't know if it's gonna be real quick, 438 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,559 but the pound for pound list is Crawford going fun of the monster. 439 00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:19,200 Okay, okay, here we go after in a way one against Fulton on 440 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,279 Tuesday, and he looks spectacular doing I take nothing away in a way, 441 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:27,920 is a generational Hall of Fame caliber fighter gonna be there high on the pound 442 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,559 for pound list. I would have him number two probably at this point. 443 00:25:32,079 --> 00:25:36,279 But the people that were saying in the immediate aftermath, like that morning on 444 00:25:36,319 --> 00:25:38,000 Tuesday, once he did what he did against Fulton, ah, he's a 445 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,440 pound for pound. It doesn't matter what happens in Crawford and Spence. That's 446 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:48,440 not right. It's Fulton, it's not Errol Spence. The level is so 447 00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:52,680 dramatically different in what the two have achieved, the type of opponents they have 448 00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:56,960 faced, their backgrounds as amateurs, what they've done in the pros, the 449 00:25:56,079 --> 00:26:00,559 number of big fights they've had, So you know, I'm not not convulting, 450 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,359 but he was not the level of opponent that in a way destroyed the 451 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,599 way that Crawford took down Errol Spence, you know, even though in a 452 00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:11,200 way yet stills actual points because he was moving up and wait, but listen, 453 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,279 I'm here to tell you. If you're going to still argue in a 454 00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:19,119 way number one, then I think you're just doing that out of stubbornness than 455 00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:23,000 reality, because right now, to me, it's not even up for debate. 456 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,000 You know, there's there are times when you're sort of between ears. 457 00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:30,640 Let's say, like when Cannello was beaten by Beevill. Cannello was the by 458 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,440 acclamation. I think most people had him number one in the in the sport, 459 00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:38,279 and that was pretty obvious. Once he was defeated by Beevill, now 460 00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:41,759 it sort of opens it up, you know, was it Spence, was 461 00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:45,599 it Crawford? Was it Bivill? Was it in a way was it oo 462 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,759 sick? I mean, there was guys who could make the case, and 463 00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:55,279 now a year or so has passed, and other big fights have happened and 464 00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:00,400 things have emerged. And I've been telling you right now, Errol Spence is 465 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,599 is a much much better opponent that was beaten tonight than was Stephen Fulton blown 466 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,359 away, blown away, just destroyed. Yes, And so to me, 467 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,880 it's a no brainer. Terence Scrawfords, you number one fighter in the world 468 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:12,920 pound for pound, and like I said, if you're not taking them, 469 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,319 yeah, monsters too, and h Cannello was three. No, I don't 470 00:27:17,319 --> 00:27:21,400 know if Kenelo is three undisputed at one sixty eight, it's okay, but 471 00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:23,359 writers since the loss to Bevil, Okay, I get that, but Beavo 472 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,440 beat him and also beat so defeated Zerto Ramirez and I'm always fascinated by this 473 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,440 too. And we don't have to go down the rabbit hole for fifteen minutes. 474 00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:33,640 But wasn't pound for pound created for below heavyweight? You include heavyweights? 475 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,319 So where does Ousick fall? He's definitely five. I am not going to 476 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,359 give you my top ten off my head because I need to think about it. 477 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,680 You're saying I might need to subscribe with the substack to fight would the 478 00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:48,400 upcoming pound there will be coming? Yeah, it's upcoming. But I mean, 479 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,359 here you go. It is obviously Crawford in a way, I don't. 480 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,240 I'm not. I'm not gonna suddenly drop Arrol out of the top ten 481 00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:59,880 because he got pack tonight. But Cannello is there, Beeville is there, 482 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,480 Usik is there obviously in a way is there Devin Haney. Devin Haney is 483 00:28:03,519 --> 00:28:07,079 on that top ten list without question. I think Shakoor Stevenson isn't that top 484 00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:11,519 ten list without you know, and not everything is the same because sometimes you 485 00:28:11,559 --> 00:28:14,160 have to rely a little bit more on the eye test, as they say, 486 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,880 because they haven't had the opportunity to have the big fights. But the 487 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,079 skills are obvious. The amateur background is obvious. The way they go about 488 00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:22,000 their business. They're conditioning their movement, their skills. You know, it's 489 00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:25,200 just you're in fucking idiot if you don't put a certain guy on the list, 490 00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:27,279 because you can just if you unless you're blind. So but those are 491 00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:30,480 the guys. But right right now, you know, it's it's a Terrence 492 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:33,680 Crawford's world done then we're living in it. It's sure world, and I'm 493 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,440 living in it. All right. We need to talk about the undercard that 494 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:45,400 saw Esock pit Bull Cruise when the WBC eliminator fight Man, that seems like 495 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,960 it was last Tuesday. No, that was earlier tonight. He won the 496 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,720 co feature, So let's get to that. We can talk about that. 497 00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:55,279 We can also talk about the upset. It was an upset with Alex Santiago 498 00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:59,400 beating No Nito Donair for the vacant WBC bandom Way title. All part of 499 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,160 the undercar. Your thoughts start first with Pitbull, move your way to the 500 00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:06,200 Santiago win over No Nito. Go ahead, sir, well, I thought 501 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,400 Pitbull Cruise against Giovanni Carbrera was a really disappointing fight. I thought it was 502 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,000 gonna be a lot better than what it was. I thought it was a 503 00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:15,160 shit fight, fucking garbage, terrible fight. Well, Cruise at least landed 504 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,200 some No, it was just give and I give Cabrera credit because he wasn't 505 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,359 taken a backward Cruise was hitting him. Don't get me wrong, I'm not 506 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,240 I'm not saying that the two guys didn't act like pros and didn't try their 507 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,279 best, but their style I should have let me rephrase that their styles met 508 00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:33,359 made for a bad stylistic fight. Cruise is like a little short, very 509 00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:40,039 small lightweight. Cabrera is like a giant tree and frankly not that coordinated. 510 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,559 Tough, don't get me wrong, tough as nails. Nice kid. I 511 00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:44,519 met him while we were here this week. I had a chance to talk 512 00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:47,240 to him and his trainer, my good friend Freddie Roach. Uh, you 513 00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:49,279 know, great personality, so I'm nothing against him, but the style that 514 00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:53,160 he fought him with his hands down and and the and the and the very 515 00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:59,559 poor um like pushing his punches like it just it made for a really sloppy 516 00:29:59,559 --> 00:30:02,160 fight. So it was a bad fight to watch. I don't I don't 517 00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:04,960 say they're not trying to do their best, but you're watching it was like 518 00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:07,440 Mutton, Jeff. You got one guy that's like, you know what, 519 00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:11,559 maybe five foot stand, then on a phone book, and you got the 520 00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:14,000 other guy, you know, that's like a giant tree, and it just 521 00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:18,359 it just made for a terrible I will say my perception was I thought Cruise 522 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,200 decisively one and then here we go with Vegas and decisions. When I heard 523 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,319 split decision and then I heard the first cards one fourteen, one thirteen. 524 00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:30,440 Because Cruise had had a point taken away for a butt earlier in the in 525 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,839 the fight, then the second cards one, fourteen, one thirteen, I'm 526 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,640 going, wow. But luckily pit Bull, Cruise does get the way. 527 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,720 I did think. I did think that, you know, as much as 528 00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:42,720 I disliked the fight, I did think that Cruise was the clear winner. 529 00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:45,000 I don't I wasn't like he won like ten to two or anything. It 530 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,519 was probably you know, the real the rightful score was probably eight to four, 531 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,319 you know. And on one thing about Cabreras, he showed a lot 532 00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:55,240 of toughness because he got cracked. You know, there were some times there 533 00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:56,480 where I actually turned to the guy who's an excellent and that we were, 534 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,359 you know, my buddy David Avelo, who I've covered fights with for a 535 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,640 long long time, and uh, you know, thinking like, okay, 536 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,599 he might get stopped here, and we were both kind of his credit. 537 00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:10,079 He took him and did not take a step back nor marveling about how good 538 00:31:10,359 --> 00:31:11,319 Cabrera. You know, I said to him that one if I said, 539 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,559 either Cabrera got a great, great chin or Cruise his power has been overrated. 540 00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:17,680 But look, at the end of the day, Cruise gets to win, 541 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,400 which he deserved. It puts him in a great position because now he's 542 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,079 going to be high up in the you know, well, the mandatory is 543 00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:26,400 gonna unfold at the at the lightweight division, depending on what goes on with 544 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,319 Haney, specifically if he keeps the belts of vacase whatever. But he won 545 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,680 in both the BC and the w BA, so he's gonna probably be at 546 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,759 least in a vacant title fight at some point. Uh. And if and 547 00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:40,440 if not LB probably because he'd get the opportunity, which is what he spoke 548 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,480 about after the fight and before the fight. What he wants is a rematch 549 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,440 with Travant to Tank David, I will say once again, I think is 550 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,880 extraordinarily possible. Um. There was a mention about Ryan Garcia was interested to 551 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,200 fight pit Bull Cruise, which would be a fun fight. Um. Obviously 552 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,720 complicated given his issues with Golden Boy and the different networks and promoters and all 553 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,359 that, but uh, you know, moves on. He's a fun light 554 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,119 way to watch, even if the style didn't work so well tonight with Camara 555 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:10,279 okay, and then for Santiago's upset of No Nito donnair I put this on 556 00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:14,359 the recap story on Bigfight Weekend dot Com. And I don't think it's just 557 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,039 being overly cruel, It's just just sometimes sports life. Father time, I 558 00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:22,039 think is caught up with him. Just in watching that fight in the arena, 559 00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:27,079 he couldn't get off. Santiago was getting off first, landing the more 560 00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:30,720 punches, the more significant punches, better combinations. As the fight went on 561 00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:34,200 again, don Air is forty. He's amazing that he can still make Bannham 562 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,079 weight. But I think off the knockout loss to the monster, no shame 563 00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:43,359 in that that. Now at forty, Santiago decent fighter, fought a good 564 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,680 fight, but it was more about Dunnair and those are there's gonna be a 565 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,839 lot of guys licking their chops to get a shot at at Alexander. He's 566 00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:54,039 not gonna be I mean looks and no nothing he can't take it away from. 567 00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:57,559 He's got the title. It's gonna have a belt to hold up in 568 00:32:57,599 --> 00:33:00,480 his trophy case and give his kids and all that further rest of his life 569 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,599 and you know he'll be forever part of the WBC family. And it's a 570 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,720 beautiful accomplishment for you know, a guy who'd beat a future Hall of fame 571 00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:08,799 absolutely, so you can't you can't take it away from him. But he's 572 00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:12,079 not a guy that's gonna hold that title for a long time. That's just 573 00:33:12,119 --> 00:33:14,759 clear his day to me anyway. And you mentioned about, you know, 574 00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:16,920 father time catches up to everybody. You know, Nonito was talking about prior 575 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,319 to the fightlight you know, he wanted to make break his own record as 576 00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:22,799 the oldest band amweight champion, and then he talked about, uh, he 577 00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:25,720 wanted to become the oldest fighter ever to be a champion, which is Bernard 578 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,640 Hopkins at age forty eight. And he was kind of like, that's saying 579 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,160 that's what motivates him, but he's not gonna be around another eight years. 580 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,880 He probably you know, should call today. He's a he's a wonderful person 581 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,559 and he's been a great fighter. He's gonna be a Hall of famer, 582 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,880 like you mentioned. But this is the key you talk about him not being 583 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,720 able to, uh to get off his shots. He had one of his 584 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,240 post fight quotes was there were times where I didn't pull the trigger. That 585 00:33:46,279 --> 00:33:52,400 was my biggest problem. And the key of identifying a fighter who was a 586 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,559 so called shot fighter is when they see the opening and they can't let the 587 00:33:57,599 --> 00:34:01,480 punch go. The Nondo don't at age twenty five or thirty or thirty five, 588 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,200 he pulls the trigger and he probably lays that guy out with those hooks 589 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,119 because he wasn't he even though he couldn't pull the trigger on some punch, 590 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,320 he landed, you know, some good shots, and I thought there was 591 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,719 a couple of times were actually kind of wobbled Santiago a couple of times. 592 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,360 Um. What was interesting about this fight is that Santiago, who was a 593 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,440 Mexican fighter, it says that Nonito Donare was his idol. So for him 594 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,559 to go in there and beat his idol was very emotional for him, not 595 00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:29,239 only because he got the title, which is obviously a lifelong dream, but 596 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,239 he did it against a guy that he's you know, idolized and looked up 597 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,440 to and and uh and watched for a long time. And he's also going 598 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,320 through a lot of emotions in his own mind because he was talking about how 599 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,000 just a few days ago before this fight, which he wasn't there, I 600 00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:43,679 guess because he was in the process of getting ready for this bout, that 601 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,039 his son was born. So that there's a lot of stuff going on in. 602 00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:50,480 Uh, you know team Santiago right now, so it's a big weekend 603 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,440 for that guy, so you gotta give him credit. But that was a 604 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,559 pretty good fight. I thought, you know, I thought Donair started off 605 00:34:54,599 --> 00:34:58,519 well. I actually thought he was probably, uh you know, maybe a 606 00:34:58,599 --> 00:35:02,280 round ahead or tied or whatever after maybe like four or five rounds and then 607 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,880 it was pretty much all Santiago. I thought it was a little bit closer, 608 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,920 Like I didn't think it was a blowout like one somebody I was talking 609 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,599 to and said they had to like ten to two. I'm like, no, 610 00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:13,920 it wasn't that. Why, yes, Ski Farhood of Showtime, he 611 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,960 was a little gave gave like eight straight rounds to Santiago. I thought the 612 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:22,119 fight, uh was nine three nine three something like that, and so I 613 00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:24,760 can understand eight four. Yeah, that's what I found. I don't think 614 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,400 don't Air won more than four rounds in that fighting, especially in the back 615 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,119 half of the fight. So we'll see what he allects to do, and 616 00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:32,480 again we give you a good I mean I hoped. I hope don't Air 617 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,760 when he when he really thinks about it, I do hope he retires. 618 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,440 I understand him coming back after the loss in the previous fight against in a 619 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,599 way because he just got clipped in the second round by like literally an all 620 00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:45,119 time great type of fighter. I mean, who's in his prime. That 621 00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:50,719 happens. There's there's a big difference in my mind of losing Tonoia in a 622 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,639 way compared to losing to Alex and Santiago. I agree that that's a totally 623 00:35:53,639 --> 00:36:00,480 different ball game. Okay, so good stuff on what happened here? Um, 624 00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:05,159 and did I give anything anything else you want to say about the atmosphere, 625 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,519 the whole set up and whatever before we moved, I was gonna give 626 00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:09,039 up this. I was gonna a little shout out to the junior junior middleweight 627 00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:14,199 uh from the opening TV fight, which is Joannis Teez, who I didn't 628 00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:15,320 really know a lot about going with the fight. Cuban fighter. He's like, 629 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,000 what is he? Four and o going into this fight took kind of 630 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,960 tough dude, Sergio Garcia, you know who granted how he's lost like three 631 00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:25,159 or four butt dirt, you know, Uh, usually a durable guy, 632 00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:30,199 fought some good opponents, fought Tony Harrison. Thoughts of Basham Hondora, you 633 00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:32,320 know, didn't disgrace himself in those types of fights, and this kid, 634 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,760 you know, made himself something tonight because he didn't just win, he did 635 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,639 it with some gusto. We scored a big knockout and it was pretty spectacular. 636 00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:42,960 Uh So, you know, I say, bring me more uns ts 637 00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:44,719 at some point down the road. I mean, I thought it was. 638 00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:46,119 It was sort of like an eye opening kind of performance. I thought he 639 00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:49,440 did a heck of a job the way that he went about his business in 640 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,639 that fight. And again we should say the stars were also out there six 641 00:36:52,639 --> 00:36:54,559 and O and out with five knockouts, yeah till us uh. And the 642 00:36:54,599 --> 00:37:00,920 stars were out, whether it be NBA stars like Draymond Green of the Golden 643 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,119 State Warriors, Damian Lillard who's a huge fight fan of the Portland Trailblazers. 644 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,400 You had NFL stars like Micah Parsons who just came from Dallas Cowboys, came 645 00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:15,639 Chris Brown, that Chris Brown singer, and then Taylor Sheridan who's the executive 646 00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:21,119 producer and the actor of Yellowstone, the immensely popular show, actors, entertainers, 647 00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:24,440 etc. The stars were definitely out. Crawford's the biggest star though of 648 00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:27,559 all of that. When I was talking to songs guys. They were asking 649 00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:30,360 me where's TJ. Doubtful they were might have been asking you where Crawford is? 650 00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:32,519 And before they asked you about me, they were asking you where's the 651 00:37:32,559 --> 00:37:37,000 restroom? I think I would rank below that. Probably I'm self deprecating on 652 00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:39,519 the show. Some news and some nostalgia before we get out of here in 653 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:45,440 Vegas, the Regions Progray Devin Haney fight. Tell me more because it looks 654 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,199 like that one is going to happen from what we get. I think it's 655 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,800 gonna happen. I mean, if you go back, I guess like a 656 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,199 week or so ago, you had the WBC asking Devin Hanny to give them 657 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:59,360 a decision about what he wanted to stay at lightweight or in fight demandatory against 658 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,320 your course, Steven or go to one hundred and forty and become the mandatory 659 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:06,760 for a Regis program. Match Room Boxing which represents program and has worked with 660 00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:09,519 Devin Haney over a series of fights before he was with Top Rank briefly which 661 00:38:09,559 --> 00:38:14,280 now he was a free agent. They had asked the WBC to give them 662 00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:16,039 a little bit of of a delay because they were trying to finalize the fight 663 00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:21,079 between Haney and Program, and so I don't think it's not I know it's 664 00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:24,199 not signed an official and done and all that, but Haney and Program are 665 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,960 have reached an agreement to do the fight. I've spoken to match Room Boxing 666 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,480 about that that is the case. They are planning that fight. I don't 667 00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:36,440 think it's been formalized and signed. And I spoke to Mauricio Suleiman from the 668 00:38:36,519 --> 00:38:40,119 WBC, who there and this is something they do. I asked him, 669 00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:44,039 like, okay, so if he's taking this fight against regis what is going 670 00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:46,880 to become the status of the WBC's lightweight title. And they're in the process 671 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:52,119 of doing their voting for their board of governors to decide because Haney has made 672 00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:54,199 a request to be able to keep the title until after the fight. And 673 00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:58,440 then here we go back to pit Bull Cruz who won on Saturday Night, 674 00:38:58,599 --> 00:39:00,960 right, who's now in that spot. So I don't think the fight tonight 675 00:39:01,039 --> 00:39:05,079 was not for the mandatory. Understand, Shakur is the mandatory. So what 676 00:39:05,079 --> 00:39:07,599 it would mean, hold on. What it would mean is if the title 677 00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:13,079 becomes vacant, the likely scenario to fill that vacancy would be Shakur order to 678 00:39:13,159 --> 00:39:16,440 fight is it your belief based on your reporting, what you know, what 679 00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:20,800 you've seen at these situations that we've seen the last of him at lightweight, 680 00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:24,880 Devin Hanny will just be one forty, whether it's rarely rarely, especially a 681 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:30,000 guy that has had so much uh public but discussion of his issues making the 682 00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:34,239 weight, I can't imagine. There's not even there's not even what what if 683 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,239 he comes back? What's the mega is the only one? But that's not 684 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,800 it's it's a great fight, but it's not like a ten million dollar fight. 685 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,079 The Loma Chango rematch is a big fight, but it's not that level 686 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,719 who well, you know, I mean Gervante Davis, I guess, but 687 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,079 fought at one forty that you know what's he gonna go back? And I 688 00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:53,239 mean it's just and that's such a hard fight to make anyway, So you 689 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,599 know, you'd never say never, I guess, but it would seem logical 690 00:39:55,639 --> 00:40:00,599 if he's gonna go and become potentially the wc's hundred forty pound champ. Yes, 691 00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:02,159 there are times where guys jump Papa come down Pernol. Whittaker went from 692 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,079 forty seven and went back down to forty went well, I mean went up 693 00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:08,400 one fight for fifty four, came back. Um, you know, he's 694 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,800 not the only one. There's been others that have done that, but it's 695 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,920 not like totally common. I mean even more recent times. Take for example, 696 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,559 on the women's side of boxing, you have Amanda not Amanda, you 697 00:40:16,599 --> 00:40:21,239 have Katie Taylor, who was undisputed lightweight women's champion. She went up and 698 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,000 she won a title at one forty, quickly vacated it and dropped back down 699 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:29,760 and continued to defend the lightweight title. H went up recently to fight Chantel 700 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,199 Cameron came now she's you know, still lightweight. She's never rematch anyway. 701 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:37,039 It's it's it's not so went up to fight her and is now coming. 702 00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:39,599 So it happened, I mean, it does happen. But but but hany, 703 00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:44,000 I don't think he's coming back to lightweight. So uh. There was 704 00:40:44,039 --> 00:40:46,119 some reporting out there that the fight was set for October twenty eighth in Las 705 00:40:46,199 --> 00:40:51,199 Vegas, and I'm here to tell you, once again without mention names inaccurate 706 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,119 reporting, Matchroom Boxing says told me, yes, October twenty eighth is the 707 00:40:55,159 --> 00:40:59,480 target date that we would like. We would like to do it in Las 708 00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:01,800 Vegas. But it's nothing done on the date. It could definitely move to 709 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,079 a different date. And when is it done, Well, when it's done 710 00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:09,039 exactly, it ain't done. So it probably will be, you know, 711 00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:15,079 in that October November time frame. Good chance it's in Vegas. But for 712 00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:19,440 anybody to write or sweet or say or X we call it X now uh 713 00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:22,280 that it's one hundred, I'm gonna fuck that. I'm still calling a Twitter 714 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:28,599 tweets, you know, fuck Elon Musk. So I'm I'm I'm convinced that 715 00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:31,559 that will happen. But you'd be wrong if you wrote definitely that the fight's 716 00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:35,559 October twenty eighth and it's in Las Vegas. That's a likelihood, but it's 717 00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:38,599 certainly not a done deal. But that's log and that that's a I'd like 718 00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:40,039 to see him fight, you cor But I get it. I mean, 719 00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:43,239 he's gonna go for another title. He's got trouble making the weight. It's 720 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,719 a fight that the Zone is gonna pay a lot of money for. Remember, 721 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,400 the Zone is not paying tens of millions to Canel anymore. They got 722 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,199 a few dollars kicking on of their piggy bank to use to make some bigger 723 00:41:51,199 --> 00:41:53,239 fights right now. What I am told um, you know, pick and 724 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,119 shoes here and there, not every single fight, but they can make something 725 00:41:57,159 --> 00:41:59,840 like that happen anyway. That's a good matchup, and that'd be very Still 726 00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:04,079 the line from program who looks so bad against Zuria in his decision when where 727 00:42:04,119 --> 00:42:06,480 he said, Hey, maybe because I looked so bad, it's going to 728 00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:08,599 make it easier to make it Devi. It is as much as he was 729 00:42:08,639 --> 00:42:12,480 half joking, it is. But that's the way boxing is. When you 730 00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:15,960 are like that, suddenly everybody wants to fight you, and you know, 731 00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:21,199 sometimes it's uh, it's like a like a mirage and you're able to bounce 732 00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:22,480 out of it. And you know, if Progra comes with his best, 733 00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:25,679 he can beat Haney. But if he comes the way he did against Zuria, 734 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,000 it's gonna be a tough fight. But Hany is such a brilliant boxer 735 00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:31,039 it's gonna be hard anyway. Look for that later in the year. Anything 736 00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:36,159 else on the new news front, you're reporting one other thing. I have 737 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,519 copy of a letter from the w BA, which I don't think this has 738 00:42:38,519 --> 00:42:42,719 been reported anywhere. So if I if it has been my forgiveness for not 739 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,760 given any credit. But uh, match Room Boxing had requested a special permit 740 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:52,800 from the w BA to bypass a Leewood's mandatory to make a fight between Leewood 741 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,440 and Josh Warrington, which of course in Britain would be a pretty big fight. 742 00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:00,119 And so they sent the letter back saying, yes, they have consulted 743 00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:05,960 with the mandatory, which is odebec uh Kolmatov, who is not well knows 744 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,639 but he is a sensational fighter. Okay, sensational fighter. I have watched 745 00:43:09,679 --> 00:43:13,199 this kid. He can really fucking fight, So I don't care if you 746 00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:15,079 never heard him. Uh check him out on YouTube or something. He's he's 747 00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:19,599 a really good fighter. But anyway, he is the mandatory. They they 748 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,280 his team was asked their opinion and they were like, we don't want to 749 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,440 wait, we want to fight. But the WBA ruled in favor of the 750 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,519 special permit. And so the w BA says that Matchroom Boxing has told the 751 00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:36,880 WBA that you'll see Lee Wood versus Josh Warrington on October seventh, presumably will 752 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,679 happen somewhere in England, and the winner and you know, when they do 753 00:43:39,679 --> 00:43:44,719 these special permits to bypass a mandat or they have certain conditions that have to 754 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,320 take place that everybody has to agree on. So in the terms of this 755 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,199 Wood Warrington winner or in the case if it's a draw, would must face 756 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,840 the winner, or would if it's a draw, must face Kolmatov in a 757 00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,280 mandatory defense with one hundred within one hundred and twenty days of the about between 758 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:06,239 Warrington and Wood. And while that is going to take a little while to 759 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,719 take place, the WB has authorized Komatov and to engage in a non title 760 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,920 fight that's been approved, so he doesn't have to just sit on the shelf 761 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,199 and not be active. So that look, Warrington against Leewood, Sign me 762 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,920 up for that. I'll take that. I mean, I don't think that's 763 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,800 some you know, pound for pound fight, but that's a nice little fight. 764 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,639 Lee Wood's been in some exciting fights. Warrington's in a big fight in 765 00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:28,039 the UK as we like, as we like to talk about on that. 766 00:44:28,519 --> 00:44:31,800 And one other piece of news, because we wrote about this a bunch two 767 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:37,760 years ago when it happened. The guilty convictions of Felix Verdejo happened Friday night 768 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,840 in Puerto Rico while we're here in Las Vegas. This is for the kidnapping 769 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:50,199 and shooting death of his mistress horribly back in late April of twenty twenty one, 770 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,800 so it took over two years for the trial. The trial took almost 771 00:44:53,960 --> 00:45:00,480 four weeks over the course of June and July, and he was convicted on 772 00:45:00,519 --> 00:45:04,920 two of the serious charges, facing a life sentence for both. Will be 773 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,400 sentenced in November. Bottom line is Felix Verdejo's never getting out of prison in 774 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:14,800 Puerto Rico on these on these two convictions. So I wrote about it on 775 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:15,960 Big Fight Weekend dot com. I don't know if you have anything else to 776 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:22,400 add to that, but the the likely conclusion did happen. Finally justice for 777 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,440 the family and the friends of Keisha La Rodriguez. That's that's her name, 778 00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:30,320 murdered two years ago by a former lightweight top ten contender. Yeah, she 779 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,760 was pregnant with his child, so that's why it counts as two murders, 780 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,360 and he does. By the way, he may go away for the rest 781 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,599 of his life in terms of being in prison, but that the case is 782 00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:42,960 still eligible from what I was reading, it's still eligible for the death penalty, 783 00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:45,280 so that has not yet been decided if he'll face the death penalty or 784 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:50,079 it will be life in prison. But you know, it's just in every 785 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,960 possible way, one of the saddest things is gonna happen because she was pregnant 786 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,360 and he didn't want the baby. So now you got to kill them. 787 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,920 What's the point, Like, they can't just go lived. You don't want 788 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,079 to be a father, you know, you can just not do your responsibility, 789 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,800 but you don't need to take their life. And it's and the way 790 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,280 it was done, I mean not that I would I would not endorse killing 791 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:12,119 somebody under any circumstances, but the way that he did it in particular, 792 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,760 it was even more heinous than let's say, your average murder. It was 793 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,639 just terrible. They injected her with drugs, They wrapped her up in like 794 00:46:20,639 --> 00:46:23,360 like with a concrete block tight around her. Apparently she was still alive. 795 00:46:23,639 --> 00:46:27,440 They threw off a bridge and she was still alive. When she hits the 796 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,960 water and then suffocates and drowns, I mean, horrific. That's just. 797 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,880 And the thing about is I like, I can't claim that I like knew 798 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,519 Felix for djo Well or anything like that, but I met Felix for Do 799 00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:44,280 on several occasions. I interviewed him on a few occasions I had covered fights. 800 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,239 He would come over to you and had a beautiful, big smile, 801 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,760 like he looked like a glamour kid, you know, like he would be 802 00:46:50,119 --> 00:46:52,719 like a hard throp to some of the you know, the female fans out 803 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,440 there. He was a good looking kid, had a fun, exciting style, 804 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,280 had Olympic pedigree. People thought, you know, he might be the 805 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:01,639 next one from Puerto Rico. I mean, no one's ever gonna be, 806 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:06,360 literally, you know, another Trinadaud or even another Koda or something like that. 807 00:47:06,519 --> 00:47:09,639 But he was sort of like the closest approximation coming out of those Olympics. 808 00:47:09,679 --> 00:47:13,880 He had fought lots of good fighters in the amateurs, he was making 809 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,639 his way in the pros. I had picked him a couple you know, 810 00:47:15,679 --> 00:47:17,880 however, many years ago it was as the prospect of the year. I 811 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:22,920 was certainly not alone in that assessment, and he'd never lived up to that 812 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,000 in the ring. And then, for reasons, I guess, no one 813 00:47:28,119 --> 00:47:30,480 just threw his life away and the life away of this young woman. And 814 00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:35,079 I'm glad you said an unborn child. And I'm glad you said that because 815 00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:38,320 it's heartbreaking to watch the family on the video that I saw outside the courtroom. 816 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:43,599 They are still mourning, they are still devastated two years later that why 817 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,119 why did this have to happen to her? And so that is now all 818 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:52,159 but resolved again sentencing in November. Suffice to say, from everything that I 819 00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:54,920 read and I put this in the article, the judge is going to give 820 00:47:55,039 --> 00:48:00,400 him two concurrent ninety nine years sentences. He's never getting out. So there 821 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,400 you go with the end result on Verde Hill. Let's brighten it up, 822 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,000 please before we leave Las Vegas. Wasn't that a movie? We think Las 823 00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:08,119 Vegas? But you have to be really super drunken weird. That's wasn't like 824 00:48:08,119 --> 00:48:12,280 the guys And he won an Academy Award. I believe Nicolas Cage right, 825 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,920 but for that fantastic nostalgia nostalgia, please to end. And this involves a 826 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:22,360 double header with Roy Jones and Eric Morales. Correct going back twenty plus years 827 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,280 this weekend as we get ready to leave July twenty eighth, two thousand and 828 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:31,840 one. So what twenty two year years ago on Friday that just passed one 829 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,280 of I think my second ever trip to Los Angeles to cover a boxing match. 830 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,880 My first one was the Oscar Delaoya Shane Mosley one, which was in 831 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:44,920 two thousand. I believe this was number two, And again, if I'm 832 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,920 not mistaken, it was my second Roy Jones fighting person. This is Roy 833 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:54,199 Jones and his like best. He's the dominating light heavyweight champion. He was 834 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:59,400 just, you know, beating everybody very easily. He was undisputed at that 835 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,440 time. He had the three belts that mattered, the IBF, the WB 836 00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:07,480 and the WBC at that time, and he was just as brilliant as it 837 00:49:07,519 --> 00:49:09,679 gets. And he took on Julio Gonzalez, the late Julio Gonzalez, who 838 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:15,639 had made a name for himself in a crazy wild slug fest on ESPN against 839 00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:17,679 Julian Lederlow and had been been in some good fights, but was a local 840 00:49:17,679 --> 00:49:22,800 guy from southern California, and uh, you know, sturdy and strong and 841 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:27,159 a good puncher, and you know, some credentials from having won a couple 842 00:49:27,159 --> 00:49:30,079 of solid fights. He got this opportunity and they put this on at the 843 00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:31,679 Stable Center, and this was a top ranked fight they did with HBO pay 844 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:36,440 per view, and uh, and it was it was a terrific card because 845 00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:38,400 I mean Yeah, the main event was pretty one sided because Roy at that 846 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,159 time, you could have put him in with King Kong. He was gonna 847 00:49:40,159 --> 00:49:43,880 win. It didn't matter. So nobody was getting out of there without getting 848 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,239 beat down by Roy Jones. I mean, just an absolutely brilliant fighter. 849 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:51,480 One a landslide decision like you know eleven one, ten two. Roy at 850 00:49:51,559 --> 00:49:53,880 ringside. By the way, that Jones was at ringside Saturday night, he 851 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:59,599 was Pakiow who's the promoter of Cruise, and Floyd Mayweather and uh, you 852 00:49:59,639 --> 00:50:01,840 know a great fighter I think of Vander Holyfield was there correct. Um, 853 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,800 you know, just the big fights bring out the big fighters. I wish 854 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,199 they would. I mean, we're getting a little tans here back and when 855 00:50:08,199 --> 00:50:10,880 I was growing up and you were growing up, or and before us, 856 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,239 you'd put on like one of the weekend fights are on some of the bigger 857 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,360 closed circuit fights or pay privy fights, and they would have like the great 858 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,880 former champions, they'd bring him into the ring to do some almost like a 859 00:50:20,159 --> 00:50:22,800 like an old timer's day in a baseball stadium or something like that. But 860 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:23,880 they don't they don't really do that. They may shout him out, but 861 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,239 they don't do like that. So while we're on the tangent and we'll get 862 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,719 back to your nostalgia. Thomas Hearns was in the arring, but I think 863 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:35,400 he's not well enough to walk around wave. I'm just speaking for this. 864 00:50:35,639 --> 00:50:37,199 There might have been a concern about him trying to get in the ring and 865 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,360 all of that. But where was Sugar Ray Leonard? We hurt for the 866 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,360 last two or three days that he might be here. I would have loved 867 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,679 a pop from the crowd with Leonard waving or Sugar Ray Leonard coming in the 868 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,280 ring to wave like what you're talking about. I mean, I don't mean 869 00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:52,880 to mynlogy. Wasn't here, Sugar. Look, I've I've been friendly with 870 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,559 the Ray for years, but he doesn't clear his social calendar when they understand. 871 00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:58,320 But I mean, it would have been neat with this would have been 872 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,599 great all the stuff. Anyway, back to Roy Jones, he was tremendous 873 00:51:00,679 --> 00:51:02,880 that night, and then Morales was also that that was so that was the 874 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,000 kofey to Morales at that time was the WBC's featherweight champion and he was fighting 875 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:13,239 mandatory fight against a good, uh tough, tough contender from Korea. South 876 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,199 Korea named engine She and let me tell you that in my mind is one 877 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:20,679 of like the loss. If you've never seen engine She battling out with Eric 878 00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:23,119 Morales, go on YouTube and find that fight, because it doesn't get like 879 00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:27,400 a lot of love. It's not like on people memories like a Gaddy Ward 880 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,119 or Brera Morales or some of the other you know, but I mean it 881 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:36,159 is a just just a battle royal for twelve rounds and just as rock'em 882 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:37,960 sock'em. You know, Morales was in some great fights and she, 883 00:51:38,159 --> 00:51:40,880 you know, he went on and later and became a I think he won 884 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,960 a world won the WBC title later in his career, and was in some 885 00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:47,199 other good fights. He had sensational fight with the British fighter Michael Brody, 886 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:52,880 but the Morales fight was was exceptional matchup made the night and uh, you 887 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,440 know, like I said, I covered the card, so I sort of 888 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,119 remember, like seeing these guys for the first time in person. So to 889 00:51:58,119 --> 00:52:00,079 see Morales, she liked that and a fantastic fight. To get to see 890 00:52:00,159 --> 00:52:05,119 Roy Jones in his prime was a real privilege. And even further down than 891 00:52:05,159 --> 00:52:07,400 that, he had an unknown ricard on my orga at that time, who 892 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:12,800 was challenging as a mandatory Andrew sixth head Lewis, who was the WBA welterweight 893 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,920 champion, who had come into the scene like with a big burst, ultimately 894 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,760 became sort of like the flavor of the week because he could not sustain his 895 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:22,679 success. They had no contest because of a head butt. They ended up 896 00:52:22,679 --> 00:52:27,800 having a rematch, which I also attended in reading Pennsylvania, and that was 897 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,079 when Mayorga got to win. But I'm gonna tell you something funny about that. 898 00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:32,199 So I didn't know. I had seen my organ on tape once or 899 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,199 twice before that, but this he was relatively new to myself and most of 900 00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:38,800 the other writers that were there. Remember sitting with him about two days before 901 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:45,239 the fight, a small media scrum and there was a translator, and Mayorga 902 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,039 had the biggest hands, like I don't know how he fit in, like 903 00:52:47,079 --> 00:52:50,880 the eight ounce gloves, they're the big I he had hands bigger than like 904 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,159 George Foreman. I think, the biggest hands I ever seen on a welterweight. 905 00:52:53,519 --> 00:52:58,360 Just ridiculous. And I remember him in Spanish talking about how he's from 906 00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:01,719 Nicaragua and how tough he and his people are and he said, and this 907 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:06,960 is being trades. The women give birth in the street. I was that 908 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,119 always stuck in my mind. I don't know why, but anyway, so 909 00:53:08,159 --> 00:53:10,039 the next night he went out and he got the you know, it looked 910 00:53:10,039 --> 00:53:13,239 like he was gonna knock Angel Lewis out, but it became a no contest. 911 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,480 And also on that card, uh, in the infancy of his career, 912 00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:19,960 in like his fifth pro fight or a fourth pro fight, was uh 913 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,000 Miguel Codo, you know, in a sixth pro fight out of the Olympics, 914 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,840 had signed with Top Rank that we're building you are you saying? There 915 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:30,159 were nights and times when four, five, six more key names were on 916 00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:36,480 the same card. Ye take me back. They had listen if it was 917 00:53:36,519 --> 00:53:38,239 your thing, they had h you know, Top Rank at that time was 918 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,639 doing a lot of like uh, Mia Saint John and Butterbean type fights, 919 00:53:42,639 --> 00:53:45,599 and Mia Saint John was on that card also as a Wow was a women's 920 00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:49,039 A Young Kodo was that night too, twenty one. But Morales, I 921 00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:51,719 mean, Roy Jones all respected what he did. But if you want to 922 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,320 be entertained, hunt out Eric Morales versus Indian Gy and I'll tell you one 923 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,000 other quick aside from that, you know how much of a big giant poster 924 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,159 collection that, because we've talked about it all the time, I have a 925 00:54:00,159 --> 00:54:01,480 lot of people always tell me, what's your favorite poster that got like five 926 00:54:01,519 --> 00:54:05,079 thousand plus posters. It's kind of like you know, which is your favorite 927 00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:07,679 child if you have like more than one kid. But one of my dearest 928 00:54:07,679 --> 00:54:10,719 posters, and I have said at times it's my favorite poster is I have 929 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:15,440 this crazy poster from Roy Jones versus Julio Gonzalez that's advertising the event. It's 930 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,519 not the pay per view and it's like a site poster, but it's not 931 00:54:19,679 --> 00:54:23,360 in English. They produced a small amount of posters that are like eleven by 932 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:28,599 fourteen. I guess that they're like thin cardboard. And they went to Koreatown, 933 00:54:28,639 --> 00:54:31,920 which is a very large community in southern California where obviously lots of Koreans 934 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,280 live, and they put up in then the groceries, and then the laundrymat, 935 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,320 and then the store, and then the grocery, and then the car 936 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,840 wash or whatever your local business was, the bank, whatever it was. 937 00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:44,559 They hung up these posters advertising the fight. But what they did was they 938 00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:47,119 put the Morales and the chief fight because he was from Korea. They put 939 00:54:47,159 --> 00:54:51,159 them in the champions position on the top of the car like they're the main 940 00:54:51,199 --> 00:54:53,119 event, and they put she on the left hand side, even though Morales 941 00:54:53,119 --> 00:54:55,760 was the champion whould normally be on the left hand side. And the whole 942 00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:00,840 posters in Korean, except for the words half said post you have that in 943 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,440 the very Field collection. I do have that in the Rafiel collection, trum 944 00:55:02,639 --> 00:55:06,480 So it's one of the not only is it a cool fucking poster, I 945 00:55:06,599 --> 00:55:09,280 know, it's super rare and and uh, I had to give shout up 946 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,480 my my, my dear friend who we saw this weekend, who was a 947 00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:16,320 long time publicist with top rankin that has done it with everybody, the legendary 948 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:21,159 Bill Kaplan, my uncle Bill Kaplan. He is the one that was responsible 949 00:55:21,159 --> 00:55:23,920 for helping produce that and get it out to the Korea town. And he 950 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,239 saved one for his Danny boy. And by the way, he saw us 951 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,159 the other night and he loves hearing us, and he loves your nostalgia. 952 00:55:30,199 --> 00:55:32,280 And you just delivered again, my friend. So I hope that. I 953 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,519 mean, I'm not gonna tell him, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask him in 954 00:55:35,559 --> 00:55:37,639 a day or two, did you listen to the recap? And if he 955 00:55:37,679 --> 00:55:39,719 says, you know, I'm gonna say, Uncle Bill, you gotta go. 956 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,360 You gotta go listen because we shouted you out. And and by the 957 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,760 way, we're almost right now, just pulling the curtain back at one thirty 958 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,800 in the morning Pacific time, late night after the fight, and Rayphiel is 959 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,960 rattling off nostalgia like a machine off the top of his head, folks, 960 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:57,199 because I'm in the room with him and he's not looking at very much. 961 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,639 Notes when you're talking about rematch here in this city, Korea town. This 962 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:06,199 with the poster with the Korean fighter on the left, he's not looking at 963 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:07,559 stuff. The poster is really cool. I gotta say, I love I 964 00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:09,599 love the visual. Put it out. Put it out if you haven't done 965 00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:12,800 so on social media. I want to see it with the with the Korean 966 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,440 fighter. I call it up on my phone or light with that, do 967 00:56:15,559 --> 00:56:19,800 we have anything else? We're saying goodbye to Las Vegas. My first time 968 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,280 here for a championship fight. I've been here before. It was everything that 969 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,039 I thought it would be in that arena, even though the fight was not 970 00:56:25,159 --> 00:56:29,320 a great competitive fight. It's a one sided beat down by Terrence Crawford. 971 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:34,800 Just one more time, we wonder going in, will we remember this fight 972 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,920 ten years from now, fifteen years from now. I will not taint your 973 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:44,599 take with my take first? Your take first? Will we be talking Crawford's 974 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,880 ko of Spence ten years from now, fifteen years from now? What do 975 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,599 you think? Yes? And not because it was a great fight like we 976 00:56:50,639 --> 00:56:53,199 remember certain fights. We'll remember it the way that we bring up Winky Wright 977 00:56:53,679 --> 00:56:58,960 battle you battling and Babbo heading Tito turning out for twelve rounds. Not because 978 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,960 of the fight, because of a performance for my future Hall of famer who 979 00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:05,519 stamped his um, not his arrival because he's been around in a champion, 980 00:57:05,559 --> 00:57:08,159 in a great fighter for a long time. But made it a matter of 981 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,639 fact now that and left no doubt who's the best fighter in the world is 982 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:17,079 and that's Terrence Bud Crawford, and did so in a in a toward to 983 00:57:17,159 --> 00:57:21,599 force let's call it again man, performance. I mean, this was everything 984 00:57:22,159 --> 00:57:24,079 that that. Uh, if you're a Terrence Crawford fan, you will want 985 00:57:24,119 --> 00:57:25,800 to say you don't want to see a good fight like that. You want 986 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,960 to see your guy, you know, get to win and do so in 987 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,519 dominating fashion. This I think about when I was in college. I remember 988 00:57:31,519 --> 00:57:36,920 watching like the the San Francisco forty nine ers with Joe Montana and Jerry Rice 989 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,599 and Ronnie Latton and all those great Hall of famers just beat the living shit 990 00:57:39,639 --> 00:57:43,119 out of the broncosifty five to ten in the Super Bowl. That was what 991 00:57:43,159 --> 00:57:46,159 this fight was. This was Denver getting their ass kick. We'll make the 992 00:57:46,199 --> 00:57:51,880 point too again, Leonard Hearn's iconic the first fight forty two years ago. 993 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,639 Of course we're still talking about it forty two years later. But when you're 994 00:57:53,679 --> 00:57:58,760 talking about a knockout making an impression. This is the thirty fifth anniversary year, 995 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,960 and the anniversary was just month ago of Tyson destroying Spinks in one round. 996 00:58:02,239 --> 00:58:07,119 We're still talking about it because of the magnitude of the fight and the 997 00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:09,519 fact it was a devastating first round knockout. And I think I agree with 998 00:58:09,559 --> 00:58:14,800 you. Ten years from now, we will talk about July of twenty twenty 999 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:20,199 three that Terrence Crawford became undisputed four belt era for the second time, demolishing 1000 00:58:20,639 --> 00:58:22,320 Errol Spance. No matter what happens after this, We're still doing the podcast 1001 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,599 in ten years, and it's a Sunday in a Sunday light in July, 1002 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:30,480 and we're taping the pod the Nostalgia again. We just replay this show. 1003 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,679 We don't have to even it. Yes, I say to you, you 1004 00:58:32,719 --> 00:58:36,639 presume we're still gonna be talking to each other in October, and now you're 1005 00:58:36,639 --> 00:58:38,480 planning on ten years. I wasn't planning. I was saying, if if, 1006 00:58:38,719 --> 00:58:43,840 if, if listen, tremendous job. I had a blast being around 1007 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,519 you and a lot of the media people and being around the scene in the 1008 00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:47,840 atmosphere. I mean, I don't know if every realized this was the first 1009 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:52,519 time we met in person. In person, even though we've been on eighteen 1010 00:58:52,599 --> 00:58:55,280 months, we have been talking to each other more than our spouses, planning, 1011 00:58:55,320 --> 00:59:00,320 plotting, doing podcasts, doing the bet Us gambling show, communication by 1012 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:01,599 text message. Now you're in my hotel room, I'm wearing my underwear. 1013 00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:06,800 Oh my god, tm TMI again. But listen, you this is second 1014 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:07,760 nature to you. You've done this so many times. This is the first 1015 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,159 time I've done it in Vegas. I think I might have to do it 1016 00:59:10,199 --> 00:59:15,199 again. My issue is now in the football world with my buccaneer duties and 1017 00:59:15,199 --> 00:59:16,760 my other duties. I don't get the chance to do this very much except 1018 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:21,199 in the summer, and summer's kind of ending with the NFL. But I 1019 00:59:21,199 --> 00:59:23,119 had a blast. You're not coming back for canell Over. I will not 1020 00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:27,199 be here for I think that'll be my next vacause you believe that you Okay, 1021 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,800 I'll be here for that. Note a note on that. I think 1022 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,280 my next fight will be August twelfth, because Showtime has an event at the 1023 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:36,920 National Harbor and Oxen Hill, Maryland. You know, a lower budget fight 1024 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,880 with the band and Waite title fight, another filming of a vacancy of in 1025 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:45,320 a Ways between Emmanuel Rigus and Lopez. But I live like thirty minutes from 1026 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:46,159 that casino, so I'll go to that fight and then I'll be back here 1027 00:59:46,199 --> 00:59:49,360 in September for the Big one. Love it. We had a blast in 1028 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,440 Vegas one final time. Thank you, Dan, Rayphael. Appreciate it as 1029 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,400 always here on the Fight Freaks Unite recap. Great stuff, you got it, 1030 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:59,639 and we thank our friends at Showtime by the way that we're tremendously accommodating 1031 00:59:59,639 --> 01:00:02,000 in premier boxing Champions with everything including helping us get guests and all this stuff 1032 01:00:02,039 --> 01:00:05,480 in the arena. A lot of times we don't say thank you. And 1033 01:00:05,559 --> 01:00:08,320 now and our palsopp dot com and keypv dot com sponsoring us as well, 1034 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:13,400 Tickets Marter sponsoring us as well. We had a blast in Vegas and it's 1035 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,199 Jake Paul Nate Diaz Week this week, among other things. We'll get into 1036 01:00:16,239 --> 01:00:21,519 that later on in the week on the preview pod again. Follow subscribe on 1037 01:00:21,559 --> 01:00:25,159 the podcast platforms. One final time, you've got a day or so left 1038 01:00:25,159 --> 01:00:28,960 through Monday to rate us and review us, take a screenshot of it and 1039 01:00:29,039 --> 01:00:31,440 get it to us. We're gonna draw somebody of random and getting goodie from 1040 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:36,719 Spence Crawford or Crawford's Demolition to Spence, whether that be a program or a 1041 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,159 fight poster. We're gonna give something away to somebody that's rated us and reviewed 1042 01:00:39,199 --> 01:00:43,639 us and giving us the screenshot. In July, we'll draw somebody at random 1043 01:00:43,719 --> 01:00:45,960 with that. My friend, thank you, Dan Rachfield, you bet, 1044 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,719 I'm merely gj Reeves. We thank you for being with us. Crawford's The 1045 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:52,400 King at one forty seven, A big time performance from Kim you've been hearing 1046 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,079 us talk about it on the Fight Freaks You Unite Recap podcast