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and here's your host, Mark Roger. Ohio State needed a signature win,

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Let's talk Big Ten and before we move

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on two week five, let's talk
Ohio State Notre Dame. Not a pretty

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game and not a pretty performance in
many aspects. However, let's not in

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any way under value the grit,
determination, and toughness of this Ohio State

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team and what may prove to be
the coming out party. The maturity on

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display in the final drive by quarterback
Kyle McCord in just his fourth career start,

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first hostile environment on the road,
he drove the Buckeyes and faced a

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number of situations in which it could
have been the very last play for Ohio

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State football on this night in South
Bend, and he delivered when he needed

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to, and the Buckeyes pulled it
out, of course, with the final

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play of the game and the toughness
that Ryan Day talked about after the game

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and then after in the postgame news
conference and then ever since then, Ryan

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Day driving home the point that his
team is not soft, it's tough,

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and that has yet to be proven
in the Big Ten against the Lakes of

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Penn State, and of course the
BJOR test is Michigan. But on this

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night in Week four, the challenge
was Notre Dame on the road, and

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that was a stiff and formidable challenge
to the Buckeyes proved to be up to

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the challenge, up to the test, and the defense gave up just fourteen

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points. There were times when Sam
Hartman completed passes at will, but they

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were short underneath passes and the tackles
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and there were times in which Notre
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five and six yards per clip at
will. However, they never broke off

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the long, long run that burned
the Buckeyes and proved to be decisive.

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Ohio State emerges victorious for a sixth
to consecutive time in the series over Notre

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Dame seventeen to fourteen. Every Wednesday
at eleven am Eastern Time, we get

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together with our Buckeye's crew of Steve
Hellwagon from Buck Nutts two four seven Sports,

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Tony Gerdeman, and Kevin Noun from
Buckeye Huddle to talk Ohio State football.

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And here's a dose of what you
can expect each and every week.

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As the guys and I discussed Ohio
State's monumental win, it's going to be

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a game that's going to live on
forever for fans in terms of coming back

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and really seemingly snatching victory out of
the jaws of defeat the way that they

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did. You know, I don't
know if things are going to be remembered

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of the smaller minutia, but as
Steve put it, there certainly is a

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lot of concern when it comes down
to their third and short, their fourth

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and short. I think the defense
aid very well. Maybe there were some

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moments that the linebackers would like to
certainly have back there. Ohio State kept

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audric estimate very much in check in
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this Sam Hartman that everybody had kind
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know how prolific. I mean,
he looked good throwing the ball around,

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but he only had the one touchdown
pass. Ohio State did a pretty good

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job of locking guys down. Denzel
Burke really was not tested in the game,

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as Notre Dame was not going to
have any of that as we go

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through it a lot to still build
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that the amount of confidence that so
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that level has got to be so
high, and I think that this open

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week comes at a really good time
because you don't get drunk off of the

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high of that game and have the
risk of a letdown against you know,

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a Maryland team that is taking care
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not the most impressive Maryland team out
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everything fits. I think nobody has
ever played their best game in a seventeen

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fourteen winner loss, and that's what
this was. And nobody's ever played their

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best game against a quality, very
good opponent. There's going to be some

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give and take there. I do
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but credit Ohio State for taking it. We've seen games that have been tried

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to give it be given away by
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Ohio State made it plays when they
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that drive is going to live forever
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to heal up because that was a
rugged, physical game. Ohio State didn't

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substitute really on either side of the
ball. They went with basically the same

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eleven people throughout, with a couple
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for Commacord, this was a coming
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and the last thing I'll say is
our photographer Dan Harker was speaking to

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an usher who's worked there for over
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that game was the loudest that that
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Notre Dame. Stadium, and that
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wire games, all the Clemson down
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the wire, et cetera, that
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And he said that it was as
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course Notre Dame is dying for a
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era of Lou Holtz and Newt Rockney
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coaches and all those great teams and
Heisman winners that all ended in nineteen ninety

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three. And you know, people
argue, you know, oh, Notre

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Dame is this, Notre Dame is
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Ohio States won thirteen New Year's,
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championships. Notre Dame in each category
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that, I'll just tell you,
you know how they sense that their breakthrough

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moment was there and they didn't get
it. This was more than just Lou

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Holtz. This was not just Lou
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a message that was being permeated throughout
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I mean, this goes back to
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J. Stroud Desmond Howard making a
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at the Heisman and has continued unabated
since then, basically talking about Michigan,

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Michigan, Michigan, and it's just
it has become the outside identity of what

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Ohio State is. And when you're
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your players being talked about that way, yeah, you're gonna get angry.

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Unfortunately, you have to wait for
a win over somebody significant to let out

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that anger. And so that's that
happened this time after the game because we

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didn't obviously didn't hear what he had
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but it was asked again in the
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know, this narrative is over now, and it's it's not it's not over

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until he beats Michigan. But this
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halves against Michigan, and I would
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half against Michigan, maybe two bad
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the entire narrative has been built around
on Ohio State being soft as far as

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I can tell, I mean,
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and say something, because if you
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over again, does it become cannon? At some point? Does it?

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Does it become that's what's there?
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going to follow you into the room
in Grapevine, Texas where the college Football

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Playoff Committee is making its selections and
everything else. And I mean that it

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permeates everywhere once you know, once
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it's it's the whole case of like
USC having crappy defense under out scrinch,

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which is actually something that is very
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if you if you sit there and
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and you don't do anything, either
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in actions is going to be the
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It just seems like, well,
then you're soft. I mean, you're

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you're not even you're not even fighting
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over to the East, while the
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second against Notre Dame, Penn State, was crushing Iowa in a game that

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after halftime was not in doubt,
and if you really took into account the

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way Penn State's defense man handled the
pathetic Iowa offense, it was never in

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doubt. Thirty one nothing Iowa,
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offense and shut out again thirty one
nothing by Penn State. Marty Lee joined

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us from Rivals on Penn State's platform
there to discuss Penn State's dominant effort and

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the defense they could prove to be
the very best, not only in the

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Big Ten, but maybe in all
of college football. This is the best

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Penn State defense I have ever seen
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because I've seen some good ones.
But they're fast, they're physical, They,

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in my opinion, may have the
best secondary in the country. Their

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defensive end room might be the best
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display Saturday night, and then you
throw that in. Like we talked about

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last week, there was definitely a
personal touch there after the game. James

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Franklin did not hide. These players
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and about Iowa's coaches after that game. In twenty twenty one, So I

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think it was you know, you
you're throwing the old don't poke the bear

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kind of thing, and they poked
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big time on Saturday night. So
it was just kind of the perfect storm

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of things. But yeah, this
defense is really good, and you know,

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the offense is been fine. It's
got some steps to take yet,

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but this defense, without doubt,
in my opinion, is good enough to

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play for a college football championship and
play in the College Football Playoff. I

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wouldn't call it a concern yet,
but it's definitely something of like, hey,

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we've got a couple of weeks here
until we play Ohio to stay and

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then Michigan a few weeks later.
We need to get this figured out.

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I do wonder though, watching Nick
Singleton, it just seemed to me at

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times there's been holes. There's been
the ability for him to balance it and

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get big gains, and he hasn't. So I wonder if they've almost tried

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to overcorrect. We're last year he
tried to bounce so much instead of just

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kind of being that true between the
tackles runner. So I almost wonder if

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that's something they see and they kind
of go back on it and tell him

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like, hey, Nick, what
makes you great is that ability to get

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the edge, run past the defense, and go and try to go back

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to that some more. But yeah, ultimately, if you're still averaging three

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and a half four yards per carry, which they have, you're gonna take

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that because that's going to be a
first down in every series as long as

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you can do that. So I
agree the running game could definitely improve,

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and I think it's something they'll look
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also know they have some interior offensive
lineman who are banged up right now,

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so you know, in theory Northwestern
by week you mask should be a good

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opportunity for those guys to really have
a light workload and get healthy, and

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that will probably help too. But
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there's one thing on this offense you
really want to receiver drops aside because as

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I've said before, they're executing everything
perfectly on those plays, you just got

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to catch the football. If there's
one thing on this offense you really want

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to see get cleaned up, it's
trying to get a little more explosiveness to

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that running attack, because that's what
made this rushing game so potent. Last

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year was Singleton I think had something
like seven or eight carries of fifty plush

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yards, which I believe was a
Big Ten freshman record, And even Ka

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tron Allen, even though he's not
as explosive, still would regularly, you

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know, probably once or twice a
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or so. You want to try
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they will spend the next three weeks
trying to get that figured out. But

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yeah, still, if you're you're
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per carry, you overall you're gonna
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Now, let's look forward to Week
five in the Big Ten and a

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few conference games, some teams playing
out of conference in a few bye weeks,

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especially for Ohio State, who I'm
sure could use the bye week after

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a physical contest at Notre Dame and
the upcoming challenge with Maryland coming to town

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in week six. So let's talk
about the two teams that we just addressed,

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Penn State and Iowa. The nintey
Lyons have a date against Northwestern,

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the Wildcats coming off and impressive.
Now think about this Not only did Northwestern

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look to be one of the worst
or the worst Power five team in twenty

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twenty three, but you couldn't pick
a worst candidate to come back from a

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twenty one point deficit then Northwestern,
and you couldn't have picked out a stingier

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defense at least over the last few
years then Minnesota to have that comeback take

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place. It gets but Northwestern and
head coach Ben Braun give them a ton

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of credit coming back from twenty one
down and Ben Bryant, the transfer quarterback

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from Cincinnati, throwing for three hundred
ninety six yards and four touchdowns, Kyle

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Curtis two hundred and fifteen yards in
Northwestern receptions ten on the day, and

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they pulled it out in overtime against
Minnesota. It's Penn State, It's Northwestern

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coming up here in week five.
Meanwhile, in Iowa City, the Hawkeyes

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will look to get off the deck
after that humiliating loss. In a Happy

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Valley. They take on a Michigan
State team without a permanent head coach.

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It was made official on Wednesday,
Meltucker out at Michigan State and of course,

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Harlan Barnett, longtime defensive assistant and
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State is taking the Spartans to the
close of twenty twenty three. It's Michigan

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State, it's Iowa. And we
do our Hawkeyes Live show each and every

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Tuesday at five thirty Eastern time with
Corey Brada from the Hawkeye of the Storm,

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and here's our take on Iowa Michigan
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They're just in disarray. Who knows
what the motivation is, but they

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were within they were in the red
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like inside the ten yard line to
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one juncture. Now, I know
they got blown out thirty one nine,

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but I think they were within six
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in the third quarters. So you
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a while. So they didn't get
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got one question for you, as
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State, then it is tortures and
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Though. I mean, regardless of
a competitive they were against Maryland, they've

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got they've gotten beat their last two
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Their margin of loss has been like
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always should be able to under the
lights at Kinnick at home with the defense

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alone when this game. Think of
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Michigan State defense versus Maryland. But
the previous week, and I know it's

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Michael Pennox and he's a top three
to four quarterback in the country with an

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excellent wide receiver room, but they
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any team in history. That was
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seven hundred gave up seven hundred and
thirteen yards of total offense. I know

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Iowa fans have never heard a number
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of total offense in a game in
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and they didn't even throw the ball, they could have thrown up like nine

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hundred yards of total offense. That's
crazy. And Michigan State's secondary was never

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even good under melt Tucker. Let's
just make that clear. So it's obviously

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probably gotten worse now maybe week three
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it just takes a few weeks and
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it regardless of that, it doesn't
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they have to take care of business. Two years ago, Michigan was on

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its way to a Big Ten Championship
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but it went to Lincoln and almost
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two, twenty nine, a hotly
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and the Wolverines take on Nebraska again
now since then, of course,

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the Huskers visited the Big House last
year and there was no contest thirty four

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to three. Nebraska will once again
start Heinrich Harburg at quarterback against the Maze

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and Blue. The Huskers are two
and two on the season, having defeated

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Louisiana Tech last weekend twenty eight fourteen. Anthony Grant picking up the running duties

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now that they've had a couple of
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for the season, and picked up
one hundred and thirty five yards against Louisiana

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Tech. We'll try to run against
that stinchy Michigan defense that many believe as

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the best defensive front in all of
college football. Meanwhile, statistically the toughest

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defense to run against one point in
years per carry. It's Michigan, It's

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Nebraska Saturday in Lincoln. Every Tuesday, we get together with Greg Peterson from

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Husker Online and also Justin Adams,
our postgame host for Nebraska football on our

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Huskers Live show that's every Tuesday at
seven pm Eastern Time, and also our

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Michigan Live shows at eight o'clock Eastern
on Tuesdays with John d Adamo talking Wolverines

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and Huskers on the O line.
In particular, they're finally taking the advice

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that we had on the Michigan Wolverines
Live and we said put Ladarius Tenderson at

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left tackle, and we said put
Carson Barnhardt at right tackle, and then

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put Trent A. Jones's number six
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And they finally, I think,
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at the end of the last game, they finally were in that set.

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So if that's the case, if
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because I think you've got the best
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line. But yeah, three three
five has not been the easiest for us.

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It hasn't. You don't see it
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I don't know the dc UH super
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you know we had you know TCU. They they they scheme very well.

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You know, there's other times that
we've had the three three five that

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you know we've done better against them. So yeah, it just depends.

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I guess just what. You know, what does Nebraska need to do on

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all phases to to beat Michigan.
They need to have an offense. That's

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really what it comes down to.
They need to. Honestly, our offensive

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line is a work in progress.
And that's probably being kind. I don't,

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I don't. I don't know what
you're gonna hear from out of the

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Nebraska people. But here's what I
see. They don't come off the ball

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very as quickly as they need to, and I don't think that they can.

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It's we can't. We don't really
have a passing game because we don't

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have great playmakers in the receiver and
corps. Now, maybe maybe something will

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happen during this game where we'll make
some plays and Michigan will have to respect

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the passing game, but we're gonna
have to run the ball, and we're

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gonna have to run it very well. And I just think that our offensive

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line is gonna have to play better
than they have yet this season. They're

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gonna have to come off the ball. We have. We run counter plays

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sometimes in trap plays, and in
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just wonder if we have the speed
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the blocks carried out. Without Michigan, you guys have probably one of the

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best defensive lines in the nation,
right, Yeah, we have one guy

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that's like projected in the first two
rounds. I can't remember his name,

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but yeah, I just those if
Nebraska's offensive line can't man up, then

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I think your defensive line will just
treat us like rag dolls. And you

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know, I think our defense can
probably keep up with you for a while,

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but not if we can't make first
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that's that's the other key is,
you know. I hate to say this

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too, My god, I've already
said nice things about Colorado. I think

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we want to do. We want
to be what Minnesota has been. We

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want to be able to possess the
ball, extend possessions, run the clock,

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keep your offense off the field,
get first downs, and then score,

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you know, just get some scoring. And I think if we can

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do that, you know, then
you know, keep it maybe within a

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touchdown going into the fourth quarter,
and we'll see what happens. Nebraska's last

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two games against Northern Illinois and Louisiana
Tech, we have looked really Yeah,

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Chris Jenkins, that's the guy I
was thinking of. Yeah, I was

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it was it was yeah, because
the other one I was thinking he has

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another year still, So yeah,
Chris Jenkins. But I think that for

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the last two games, Nebraska has
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And I came out with a theory, and that was because the guy we

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fired, he would always lose games
at the end. They'd always looked like

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they were completely petered out by the
fourth quarter. Now we just like walk

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around. We kind of just you
know, we're really flat in the first

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half, so we can be really
good in the second half and then win

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the game at the end. It's
been a rough early season for Illinois and

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Perdue. The boiler Makers are one
in three entering this game against the LINEI.

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Illinois at two and two. However, they needed a last minute drive

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and last second field goal to defeat
Toledo, and also the last game against

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FAU should have been a route,
but Illinois struggle, trailed to nothing and

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eked out a twenty three sixteen win
at home against again FAU. For Purdue,

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they have the one win at Virginia
Tech by a touchdown, but this

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past weekend they went down to defeat
on a Friday night against Wisconsin by twenty

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one points. Hudson card and the
Purdue offense committing too many mistake, too

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many turnovers, too many dropped passes, and too many short yardage situations going

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the defense's way. It's Illinois and
Purdue coming up on Saturday. The other

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Big Ten Conference game in Week five
Indiana at Maryland. The Hoosiers sidestepped in

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embarrassing loss against Akron. They pulled
it out twenty nine twenty seven and overtime.

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The Zips missed a field goal in
the waning seconds that would have handed

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Indiana the loss. The Hoosiers are
two and two on the season. They

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go to Maryland the Turps still four
and zero. They should win this game

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and of course march on to a
five and oh record and a matchup in

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Columbus against Ohio State. But first
they got to take care of the Hoosiers

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to Leah Tungavloa off to a strong
start for the Turps. They come off

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a win over Michigan State thirty one
to nine. The Maryland defense also looking

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strong. Louisiana at Minnesota. The
Gophers looking to get off the deck after

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that embarrassing meltdown in the fourth quarter
against Northwestern. The Gophers are just two

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and two and just an eleven point
favorite at home against Louisiana. So that's

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the plight of Minnesota football right now. Rudker's taking on Wagner. The Scarlet

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Knights, of course, fell to
Michigan and the Big Ten opener for Michigan.

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The Knights had defeated Northwestern in Week
one, but Rudkers still off to

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a decent start at three and one, just couldn't move the ball against Michigan

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after scoring on a long pass play
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of the game. Should get healthy
against Wagner. That is the slate in

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the Big Ten. That's week five, September thirtieth. As we head into

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October and just start to separate the
elite from the possible contenders from the also

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rans in the Big Ten. My
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