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I'm Steve, He's Jay. Now we

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have Sammon breaking news. I on
the Ball breaking news. All right,

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So, I'm sure you guys have
talked about it in the last couple of

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days, but the John Caliperry contract
has officially been signed and it has been

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made official that he has been that
he is the new head coach of the

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Arkansas what are they Zor Razorbacks basketball
team. We talked a little bit about

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it at the beginning of the show, but it stated in his contract each

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year will have some aer saying a
slush fund of five or five million dollars

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to hence recruit slash give an il
money towards the players. Yeah. I

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said that when he went back to
Kentucky. But you know, Oates did

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the same thing because UH Alabama's boosters
said, don't worry, we'll get you

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right. Because Oates had been rumored
as a top name to go to Kentucky,

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and he made a social media statement
saying that he was staying in Alabama,

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which I mean, it's at this
point now Kentucky and Alabama seem like

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pretty evil even playing fields in terms
of basketball today today, today, today.

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It's funny because I saw another Facebook
page, some goofy guy saying what

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makes Kentucky? Why is everyone thinking
Kentucky's a better job than Arizona? Because

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of because it is? Because it
is, and some things are unexplainable,

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it's because it is. Yeah,
well sure, it's how many championships for

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the its history is richer, I
do think, I mean today, is

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it a better program? Probably not, I don't know, not They're not

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a better team program. But really
interesting, yeahm right, exactly, because

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you could you could look at I
know, I know, but if you

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if you solely define program success on
on tournament success alone, there's a lot

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of really really poor programs in the
last five years that are historically great programs.

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You look at Villanova like they they're
not a great program in the last

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three to five years, but you
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this? I'm saying, like,
who's going to take this next? Who's

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going to take the job at Kentucky
because right now it's a program that you're

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going to get paid about eight million
dollars a year, and not that money's

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going to drive you right right,
but success hearing jobs Dave keli Pari,

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I thought, I've always thought this
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almost overrated college coach in the country, given what he's brought in to coach.

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Because the talent doesn't always win titles. We already don't know that,

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but he's gotten to the elade a
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national title. Once done some good
things, but you know, it's what

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have you done for me lately?
Lately? And you're as good as your

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last haircut. Right. So the
question is a lot of name. The

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names being thrown out right now are
Billy Donovan. I think it's one guy

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right now, right now. If
this guy got Drew. If he doesn't

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get it, then they're really going
to go after these other guys and say

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we want you. But does s
good Drew take that job if it's given

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to a better yes, without question, you know who would do a really

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good job. And I don't know
if the name's out there but Altman,

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Yeah, that's I think he's too
old one, but you do it.

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I don't think he would be I
don't think he'd fit that thing that fit

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that I guess, But it's it's
interesting. He can coach, he can

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coach, he can you know the
guy that would be very good, but

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it's kind of understated. Creighton's coach
McDermott, very good basketball coach, and

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he's young enough to where I think
they would he's not. He's not.

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He's not like that guy. No. Yeah, and you I think to

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coach a Kentucky team you need to
kind of have that little yeah because you

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have like Patino Calgary, like that
little weird edged nest. Yes. So

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yeah, so that you have to
have a certains to you. You do

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almost like you I'm not saying Patino
where Cali Perry thought they were too good,

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but like you kind of have to
think of like, oh, I'm

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the coach. You walk into the
room just like lot would have fit in

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perfectly because you'd walk into a room
and yeah, that's our coach. Yeah.

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Yeah. So that's that's the college
basketball news. Moving to the NBA,

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the Phoenix Suns had the thing had
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looking loss, and there we was. There was some history involved in it.

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They were down upwards of thirty points
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looked it up because I was really
nervous that we were on the wrong end

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of history of what is the least
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a team, how much time was
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two minutes left of the We were
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clear because the Nuggets scored and the
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the lowest combined score was an eight
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nuts. So we were we were
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history. But the Sons did lose
to the Clippers last night, moving them

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into seventh place, which is they're
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playing the Timber. No, no, we'd have to we have to win

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the playing okay, so right now, but the seventh place of two and

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I think Denver's two right now,
Denver's too, So we would play the

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Kings right now, and if we
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seven and play Denver. If we
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the Lakers and Golden State for the
eighth spot. So I don't care much

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about the Suns or the NBA one
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reading some tweets this morning because I
couldn't sleep, and everyone's blaming Katie and

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they're saying that Booker's presence has not
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And Beal's part of the problem too, this experiment that they tried, this

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didn't work. I don't think you
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do think there's we have uh three
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tonight. Which do you know the
concept of marriage The honeymoon was in November.

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No, no, this is at
the end of the marriage and it's

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still not The honeymoon is over.
See see Steve here, here's where you're

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in the NBA playoffs. Oh,
I get it. You could catch fire

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and you know, win and win
at all. But you got it.

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There's almost problem. At what point
do you say, guys, it's time,

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It's time. Believe me, I've
been saying that all year long.

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My my dad and my my parents
have been like, are you worried yet?

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Are you weird yet? And I
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until we are on the brink of
elimination in the playoffs, and then I

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will be oh my god, this
is a really crappy season. Well it's

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you're leaving us late mid May,
right, So i'll text you in the

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third week of May. There you
go. We'll still We'll still be hanging

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on. But so that that's the
Sun's news, and there's a lot of

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So that six seven eight race right
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the New Orleans Pelicans, Phoenix and
Sacramento and the Lakers all trying to get

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out of the quote playing. The
Warriors are tenth, but they're pretty much

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solidified in that ten spot. So
that's that's the Western kind of drama.

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Also, Minnesota, Denver, and
OKC are all separated by one game for

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second and third. So it's hard
because you don't want to play the Nuggets,

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but you don't. You can't.
You can't really avoid it, avoid

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it because you don't know where they're
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Uh, the East Boston is in
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is the largest I can remember,
even when the Warriors had won seventy plus

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games. The Spurs were great,
So Boston in the east is the story

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there? And then we talked a
while ago about John tay Porter and the

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gambling on games. So Adam Silver
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face a permanent band from the NBA. So they're they're obviously doing some more

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digging. We haven't heard much on
the show, Hey involvements. There's no

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show hey involvement. Okay, just
stop right now. Don't be that journalist.

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I'm not saying. I'm not saying
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just haven't heard anything lately. So
maybe there's some some forensic accounting. Innocent,

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there's some forensic account Yeah. And
then and right now he is absolutely

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murdering for them and the Dodgers.
Do you think they could win one hundred

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and ten games? Oh jesus,
it's not out of the realm of possibility.

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What are they now? They lost
face their ten and five and they

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don't even have their rotation right really
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could. They could. They could
easily go on a stretch where they win

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like thirty out of thirty three games
in a row. So that's in the

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last thing on the NBA. Jannis
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karl Anton Towns, Brandon Ingram,
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all battling quote injuries with three games
left. That team is in trouble.

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The Bucks, yeah, yes they
are, but again they're in a slightly

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easier conference in the East, and
they if Joannis can play, he'll be

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the best player on the floor a
majority of the time. So that's interesting.

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MLB quick News Diamondbacks one, five
to three. We live in Arizona,

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so I had had to mention that
h and Jackson Holiday, the number

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one UH prospect in all of mb
got called up to the Orioles shortstop son

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of Matt Holliday. And then lastly, if I don't know, wait did

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you see did you see it was
Elie Delacruz, Elie Delacruz and the other

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day. Yeah, it was a
really bad play by the center It was

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a horrible play by the center fielder. You look, he looked like he

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took fourteen steps to get around basis
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Yes. And then the last thing
in the MLB, there's some controversy

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going on with the pitch clock and
the correlation to all these injuries, pitching

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injuries a lot of rotation, like
high level pictures are going getting Tommy John

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surgery. So that's I don't know
if there's any correlation with that, but

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it's just sad that I I heard
somebody say it's all crap. And actually

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I know who it was. It
was, I don't know who it was.

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I can't remember his name because a
picture who did an interview who said,

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what it's about it's about them,
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not allowing them to use anything on
their fingers. Oh interesting that that for

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the longest time they're able to use
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And so that now because pictures are
having to grip the ball harder, more

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stress on that, it's more stress
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more. They said, you know, because they said, look, there's

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some sticky things that you say,
it's it should be illeg but there's some

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some other things that pictures have always
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to the ball, he says,
And he was explaining that in order for

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him to throw his fastball, he's
got to hold the ball deeper into his

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hand in order to be able to
spin it, and that puts more strain

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on the rest of them. Are
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matter that these guys throw so damn
hard. But if the pictures, if

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the pictures can't pitch like they used
to, well they're they're like saying,

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they're compensating. They're compensating. They're
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as hard as they were. It's
just they're just having to throw differently.

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And he said, that's what's messing
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the change with that banning the substance
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spin rate. So that was the
big thing of if there's more stickiness on

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it, it was a little bit
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gonna it sounds like they are having
to grip it a little and they're and

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they're monitoring the spin rate as well, because it's just sure the spin rate's

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been kind of leveled out in the
last two years because of the elimination of

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all this stuff. But these pitchers
are so dang good and talented to where

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they're going to figure out how to
get the movement one way or one or

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the other right, and and if
and if and the guys, it's because

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of the way I have to pitch
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Yeah. He talked about the fact
that you know that that he went the

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first game that he went out and
had zero, nothing at all on his

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hand. He said, I pitched
fine, right, I had the same

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velocity everything I pitched, fine,
said, but the next day I hurt

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in places that I had never heard
before. That's really interesting. Where'd you

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hear that? Where'd you listen to
that? It was on It was on

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podcast you know what? It was
driving home from the from the basketball game

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Monday night, and my son had
a bit a baseball podcast that he listens

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to interesting and they play. I
can't remember who it was was. That's

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okay, I'll do some because that
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like a minute forty. It is
Master's Week. It is master one of

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my favorite weeks of the year,
and a little less of a large story

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than it was last year. But
Live in PGA, guys are back on

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the same playing field right for the
first time this year. Uh, do

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you do you have anyone that you
think will win this week? Not?

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Well, I think Brooks kept can
win it, but I'm not hoping Brooks.

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Did you have a guy that you
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love to see either either Xander Shaffley
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Xander h h no no, no
Jffer Cheffert, No, no, not

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Cheffer, Xander Shaffley or what can
I what can I come up with his

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name? I'm looking at it.
I'm looking at all the names here.

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Uh, it's killing me. Oh
Victor, Victor. I Victory is my

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favorite golfer. I love Victory.
I can't think of his name, but

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I love Victor Hoblin. He hit
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three contest. I'd love to see
Rory get one. It would be that

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would complete his career, which I
like Rory. I'd be rooting for that.

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I don't think he's going to win. Yeah, I don't think so

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either. I do think I think
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Shoffley's got a good shot out.
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him this week. I would hate
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or DJ would be pretty cool any
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I think it's it's gonna be a
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fun week. So those should be
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right. Steve left room and started
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I'm out here, I know,
all right, So hey, stick

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around. We're gonna have Clancy Shields
on talking about the Arizona men's tennis.

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Hey, welcome back to Eye on the

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Ball here, Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivero. He's Jacob's OUs.

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Now on the phone. We have
Clancy Shields, the Arizona Men's the

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tennis coach. Clancy. How you
doing. I'm good, good, just

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got done with practice. I'm excited
to be here with you guys. Let

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me tell you some make some news
to you. I'm not sure you're gonna

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like this, but about uh,
the last time you're on I don't know,

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three four months ago, I said, Jay, let me give you

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a question. Who's the best coach
at you will be? Jay didn't even

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know I was asking this. He
was worried about it. So I said,

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you know what it says, Clancy
Shields. Look what you've done to

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this program. How do you feel
about it? How do you feel about

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that, Clancy when somebody puts that
kind of pressure on you. Oh,

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I don't know. I ques I
think I questioned myself, and I know

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how to coach every day. I
mean, we got sick last week,

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and that was my question for myself, is like, let's see if you

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can coach now, Like this scene
is better than us and we have a

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lot of work to do before we
get another crack at Stanford at or at

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the PAC twelve championship. So it's
a you know, we have to be

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humble all the time, or you
know, the proud always get humbled.

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Yeah. So, well, you
guys are eighteen and three, You're ranked

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your your four and one in the
league, your game behind Stanford, uh

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coming off of PAC twelve championship from
last year, you know, I mean

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do you get up in the morning
sometimes pinch yourself and say, you know,

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how are we doing so well?
And why? I mean yes and

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no. I mean it was kind
of when we hit the top five ranking

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for the first time. I mean, those are things that you're like,

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madam, I ever coach a team
of this caliber, and so that was

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kind of a reflection point for sure
for me. But then as I'm watching

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this team, I just I just
keept believing every day more and more how

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good we are and what we can
accomplish, and you know, I believe

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in the culture we've built here for
eight years, and that's the guys show

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up each day to get better.
And you know that whether the coaches are

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around or the captains around, the
guys are gonna work hard regardless. I

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mean, I think we've really built
a good culture here, guys who you

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know, want to constantly improve and
get better, and you know, we're

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starting to see the results of it, especially this year. It's funny because

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I wonder what's your what's your motorvesapara
in terms of being like their golf coach

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or a tennis coach. Do you
have a speech? Do you how do

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you get them going? Or do
you do not have to? Yes,

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I kind of allow myself three to
I call three or four freak outs the

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year, and I try to manage
those because I think once in a while

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the guys you got to keep them
on their toes and you got to manage

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it. I'm not I certainly don't
think you know you're yelling at these players

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all the time. I just think
you're very direct with the kids and be

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honest with them and firm, and
they want they want you to be honest

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with them. They want you to
tell them the truth. And you know,

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sometimes I'll last the guys after matches, do you want to know how

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I really feel? Or like this
the water down sugarcuated version, And they

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always tell me they want to know
how I feel, And so I tell

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them, and you know, I
think they've They've gotten really good at just

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kind of hearing, hey, this
is what we did well, this is

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where we fell short, and this
is where we got to get better,

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and let's go to work next week. So in your years of coaching,

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has that changed from the players where
give us a water down version and now

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they want the real version? Has
it changed? I think I don't think

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I ever gave him that option before, and now I've matured a little bit

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as a coach and letting them give
options because ultimately, at the end of

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the day, this is their program. And I think that our players have

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a lot of pride in playing for
Arizona and what it means to have that

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bear down spirit. And you know, like one of our players he clinched

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the mat or he won a match
last week and he's, you know,

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after the match, he's kissing his
jersey and kissing the a and like,

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this is what it's all about.
It's bigger than themselves. It's about the

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team, it's about the university and
our program and the city of Tucson and

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all those type of things are really
meaningful to what we do here. Now,

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you've been building this for a while, and you guys have been good

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for a while. It's not you
know, this isn't a flash in the

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pan. You know, teams can
have that. You know, you have

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a good year because everything comes together
for one year, then you kind of,

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you know, backtrack. You haven't
done any backtracking. Why do you

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think that is? What? What
are you doing over there that's letting you

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to keep building and keep moving forward? Yeah, because I just feel like,

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you know, we have to reinventing
ourselves every year, and like,

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if you have a good season,
pick out the things that you thought you

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did well, eliminate the things you
thought you didn't do very well, and

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reinvent your products each and every year. And I think that's a hard thing

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because if you're going to be a
coach or it's each year. I mean,

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how boring is it to do the
same things over and over and over

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again? And so I think that's
been part of our successes at the end

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of the year. I mean,
we really have some in depth box our

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players and our seniors. They say, hey, this is the thing that

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we do really well here and we
should get rid of it, and like,

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maybe we have an opportunity to grow
in this area. And I think

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that's it. Reinvent ourselves every year. You know, we lose a big

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chunk of our team this year,
three of our seniors who've meant so much

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to our team winning matches, and
next year is a brand new team.

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And like, I think, I'm
so excited to get started next year because

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we have five new guys coming in. We have the number six recruiting class

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in the country, and it's kind
of like, let's reinvent ourselves with new

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you know, new blood and try
to send the culture here. And I

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think that's just it. Reinvent yourself
every year and try to do it better

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than the year before. And the
good thing is you guys could establish yourself.

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And I'm guessing though, and I
think maybe I talked about this last

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time you run. In order to
get better, you have to play better

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people, and in your system you
have better people like the ones in the

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twos plays the fives in the six
and that means they get better too true

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or untrue? Yes, And I
feel this year, I mean, we

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have ten guys on the team.
Our number ten player and he's red shooting

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this year. He was a Top
five American, the top kid in Arizona,

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and on any given day he can
beat our number one player. And

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so I think it's just kind of
top to bottom. Were really solid.

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The guys are pushing each other.
They're a pretty competitive group, and that's

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important because competition the cream rises to
the top. And I certainly, you

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know, appreciate that our practices at
times are more competitive than our matches.

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And I think that's kind of the
blueprint for Yukon basketball. You know,

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when I'm watching this ESPN shows on
you know, Danny Hurley and their team,

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it just seems like, man,
those guys just get after it back

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and when they get in the game, it's like this easy, right yeah,

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right. So you you mentioned Stanford, you guys, they did beat

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you a while back. Are they
the ones you're chasing sort of right now?

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Like so many are you know,
around the around the Pac twelve,

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you know, women's basketball, some
of these other sports. Are they there

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would you say they're the gold standard
sort of right now and if you catch

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them, that's where you want to
be. Yes, I mean I mean

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their roster. I mean they every
year, they have the talent. Sorry

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I'm not sure, but we could
barely barely hear you. That's what we've

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had. Something. We've got some
something. Yeah, okay, go ahead.

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Yeah. Obviously Stanford is the you
know, they have the talent to

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win the national championship every year.
And I think when we played them,

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we lost, you know at points
here and there, four, three,

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and it was we you know,
had lost two months and we were on

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like at twelve or so team Matt
min Street, and you know what,

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we got a little complacent. And
I recognize that winning sometimes does that,

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but I we got to taste the
humble pie. I think the team's really

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00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:17.079
motivated to get better, to get
another at them, and we're excited to

407
00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:19.000
the underdog again and have to go
chase it. All. Right, So

408
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:22.839
you've got you got Utah this weekend, it's your senior day. I'm assuming

409
00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:26.039
that you mentioned three seniors that have
been a big part of what you guys

410
00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:30.000
are doing right now. Talk to
give us a little bit about those guys.

411
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:33.559
Yeah, well one of them are
kind of our co senior. He's

412
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:37.200
been here five years, and I
think it's just it's our last guy.

413
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:38.880
And we went through a lot in
COVID. You know, I think that

414
00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:42.279
that team was so special and all
the things that we had to do together

415
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:47.079
as a group. And so Nick
with ive he's our senior from Toronto CAMPU,

416
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:52.000
the second winningest player all the time
in singles, and so he left

417
00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:55.880
it incredible here. And then we
have our two hits and Scan maybe one

418
00:27:56.079 --> 00:28:00.720
door away Herman Hoyt brawl and our
other stuff. I mean, all three

419
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:06.200
of these guys have accumulated over four
hundred wearing the red and blue. You

420
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:10.039
know we're gonna we're gonna meet.
These guys really elevated our program to being

421
00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:14.880
one of the print programs three and
you know, I can't thank these guys

422
00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:17.559
enough, but I certainly want to
send them off on a high note.

423
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:22.160
Utah got it last year in the
Paball Tournament and so we're we're as hungry

424
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:23.799
as can be to play these guys
this weekend. Coach, let me go

425
00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:27.880
to a sensitive subject that may or
may not affect you. We've had we

426
00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:33.759
had the shot putter uh Jordan,
guys, and then we have the diver

427
00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:38.759
Delinelennow. Does nil affect you at
all? You know, it's all in

428
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:42.240
the news everywhere else with football basketball. Does it affect you, guys?

429
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:47.519
Yes, it's everyone's playing in this
space and I we're all trying to figure

430
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:49.440
out how to do it. And
I'm a little bit old school in the

431
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:55.759
stand of like, hey, if
we really need to be or proact in

432
00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:57.720
it, we're gonna jump into it
more. But I think right now we're

433
00:28:57.799 --> 00:29:02.920
we've kind of in a nice week
spot of like, man, we provide

434
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:06.119
these kids a lot, They're getting
an unbelievable experience. And I same thing

435
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:10.640
is if you have a good guy, you know, they're not always looking

436
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:12.200
at like what's in it for me? And I mean that was our talk

437
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:18.440
before practice today and really using ucon
battall as kind of our blueprint, like

438
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:23.640
being everything that we do is selfless
and not And I think sometimes when we

439
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:29.240
look at nil in the world,
you know, I think in some ways

440
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:34.039
our priority get out of way.
I'm speaking coach and not on football coach,

441
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:37.680
but I I just really appreciate our
group. I think we I think

442
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.680
everybody in our locker room to go
to another school and make a big maybe

443
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:47.480
and I say, I feel something, but we uh we we like where

444
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:51.000
we're at. We built something special. I think the team is incredibly boiled

445
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:52.960
to this group and what we're going
to build. I think there's a great

446
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.200
deal of appreciation for everyone in the
locker room that hey man, we're all

447
00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:00.160
in this together, and uh you
know, and I all part but we're

448
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:04.079
not. Well, it's refreshing because
that's the good ole days to us.

449
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:07.519
Exactly. You got a couple of
purists here on some of this stuff,

450
00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:12.279
but overall though not Okay, Now
you're coming down to, as we've talked

451
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:15.559
with the other sports, you're coming
down to the end of the PAC twelve

452
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:19.359
season, which means the end of
PAC twelve tennis. You know some of

453
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:23.720
your I don't know, are you
nostalgic about it? Too focused on your

454
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:26.799
season right now to even think about
it? You know, where's where's you

455
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:30.440
know, where's your head right now
on this last season in the PAC twelve.

456
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:37.720
Desperate to win the last PAC twelve
Okay, but we've never won the

457
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:42.839
tournament and our team is so hungry
this championship. I mean, that's been

458
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:47.279
our main goal this year. And
I just our guys were just working our

459
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:51.599
tails off just to prepare ourselves and
get ourselves ready to go out on top.

460
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:56.200
And there's a lot of teams in
this conference, a lot of teams

461
00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:59.200
may be on paper even better than
us. But I just know that was

462
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:00.759
the goal that guy I put out
as, Hey, we want to win

463
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:07.440
the Pack twelve ship OLLAHI California.
We've never done it, and we're gonna

464
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:10.480
work ourselves off to the possession ourselves
to have success. All right, So

465
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:14.680
you've got one last home match.
You've got Utah this Sunday at home.

466
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:18.200
Tell us a little bit about how
fans can get there. Uh you know

467
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:22.960
what they'll come and see. Yeah, so replaced Utah one pm Sunday.

468
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.160
They're parking in the field right next
to the court, and we're gonna do

469
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:30.920
a little honoring our senior before the
match. And I know there's a really

470
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:34.599
dear thing for me. Is our
kid from Toronto. His dad's flying in

471
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:38.400
from Toronto, our kid from Stockholm, his mom's flying in from Stockholm,

472
00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:41.960
and our kids from Norway. His
mom and his sister came into Uslow.

473
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:48.519
You know this is really special for
be here and to show them what the

474
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:55.759
Wildcat community is all about. I
mean, and they don't necessarily know what

475
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:59.160
this is all about college sports here, and you know, I think to

476
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:04.119
give him a really good about why
these forty years have been so special important

477
00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:08.559
last there wasn't in the house.
So get here early. We'd love to

478
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:14.440
have you and comfy, loud and
support our guys, our tea well Clancy

479
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:19.160
coach, Clancy the best coach on
campus right now. We appreciate you very

480
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:21.680
much. Thank you, Clancy,
Thank you, Thank you, guys.

481
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:27.920
Than all right, we'll standing by
that too. Yeah, well you should

482
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:31.359
look. Yeah, absolutely all right, one o'clock Sunday versus Utah at the

483
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:37.119
Linnell Robeson Center Tennis center on campus
right there, right off of Campbell.

484
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.359
You can't miss it, uh,
and get out there. And it looks

485
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:42.359
like they have a lot of fun. Yeah, yeah, it's been very

486
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:45.960
cool. Right, So all right, thank you to Clancy Shields for being

487
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:47.039
here. So we're gonna go ahead, take our break, our last break.

488
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:51.720
We'll take your calls after the after
the break. Five two zero four,

489
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one, six, seventy four or
forty anything, go on to talk

490
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:55.480
about we can go back to you
a basketball and all the thing's going on

491
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536
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Toying the ball Hero Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

537
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I'm Steve, He's Jay. We
have a guy Sammy with us for

538
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:22.320
the next sixteen minutes. If you
guys want to call, please do.

539
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:27.920
In fact, somebody yesterday said where's
Neat Goo Bin? Yeah? I don't

540
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:32.800
know Howard's been quiet too? Oh, guys, a regular you were going,

541
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:40.320
oh did he w say? Sounds
like me just that you're a younger

542
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:47.519
version passion Steve. I don't have
any idea with that. Back to my

543
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:57.159
marriage, Steak. Maybe that's what
the problem we'll see. Does anybody want

544
00:36:57.159 --> 00:37:00.440
to call five two, four,
one six forty like the here for me

545
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:04.719
and you still talk about the portal
or whatever you ahead? I had a

546
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:08.440
question we were talking about it a
little bit about if h will get into

547
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:13.360
the It's is it a ring of
honor the Hall of fame? The ring

548
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:17.320
of the Ring of Honor has specific
criteria like a Player of the Year.

549
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:23.679
Uh will get into that? Caleb
will in the in the ring, We're

550
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:29.000
right behind you, unless unless he
decides to come back next year. And

551
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:31.320
there's a handful of guys up there
who I don't think should be up there,

552
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:37.960
Stanley Johnson, Stanley Johnson, Josh
Green, Zeke Naji, even Christian

553
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:43.000
Coloco. Uh you know, I
mean, christ the greatest guy, But

554
00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:45.599
in terms of what he meant to
the program, I'm not so sure,

555
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:50.719
because it's like, granted, Christian
was here how long two years? Two

556
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:57.320
three years, and so this year
was Ballow's third year, correct, and

557
00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:01.559
Pele's third third year. Yeah,
And I mean as someone that has been

558
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:07.480
here all those years. And granted
I wasn't here when Stanley Johnson was here

559
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:09.760
or Ben and Coloco graduated, so
I only got to see them for a

560
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:15.679
year or two. But those guys
have felt as though they have had a

561
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:19.840
large impact on the program. Not
maybe he's from a winning in March standpoint,

562
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.280
but from a culture standpoint. Those
were Tommy's like first guys. But

563
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:27.159
there's a Sammon, there's a lot
of guys over the years like that.

564
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:30.719
Sure sure to get in the Ring
of Honor, you should be extraordinary,

565
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:35.159
all right. And Josh Green,
he's the one that hurts, not hurts.

566
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:38.039
He's the one that I disliked the
most because he's he's he came,

567
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:42.920
he came to Tucson for six months, got in the Ring of Honor because

568
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:45.119
he made the Australian Olympic team.
So he's in the Ring of Honor for

569
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:52.199
nothing that he did for Arizona basketball. Yeah, nothing, right, you

570
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:57.480
know. Jared Bayliss. Yeah,
that's the one I'm trying to come up

571
00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:00.280
with. Jared Bayliss. Another guy
came here for a year, had a

572
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:05.239
great year, earned an honor,
and got up there. I don't know

573
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:07.599
that you can go back, and
you can't retroactively do it, but I

574
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:12.440
still feel like they need to make
it a little different. Not necessarily harder,

575
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:15.519
no, but different, something that
so that somebody like Josh Green isn't

576
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:20.440
up there while it took fifty years
for somebody like Al Fleming to get up

577
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:22.719
there. Because I think if you
ask a student, right, yeah,

578
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:27.400
because I do think, and I'm
talking obviously in the last like five years,

579
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.320
if you ask a student who's a
freshman or even a sophomore at the

580
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:32.519
school, they go, oh,
do you know who Josh Green was?

581
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:37.960
Or even Zeke Naji. They go, oh, like the Dallas Mavericks player,

582
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:40.079
like they wouldn't. They may not
even know that he quit to you

583
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:45.079
and now it's but if you ask, granted they've been here, but you

584
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:47.800
ask, oh, like you know
who Pelly Larson is or Umar Balo.

585
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:52.400
We gotta call it hi, you're
on there and eye on the ball.

586
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:58.960
After hearing you, guys, just
this game, how's everything going? Fine?

587
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:01.480
Thank you? A, Gabe?
Do we get today positive or native

588
00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:09.960
normal? Gabe? Obviously Colon Boso
is that went into the transfer. I've

589
00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:15.960
seen most are fans. I'm pretty
okay with it. Oman Balla went into

590
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:22.039
the transfer, so he's gonna probably
get his money. I kind of struggle

591
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:27.440
with his free throws. All I'm
good. Yeah, I think that you're

592
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:30.519
kind of like the rest of the
crew. Rest of the crowd. Go

593
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:34.599
and enjoy your the rest of your
career because we help people to replace you.

594
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:40.760
Yeah, exactly, Uh yeah,
next man up. Yeah, I

595
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:44.960
have that mentality. Are you how
about you, Dave? What do you

596
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:46.760
think? Well? I was gonna
ask you, are you comfortable with the

597
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:51.400
fact that you know this team was
pretty good? They weren't? You know,

598
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:54.159
however, you wanted to describe how
good they were. All five starters

599
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:59.199
are going to be gone, and
Tommy's got I'm basically start over. It's

600
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:02.920
like that have to happen pretty much
every year as a fan. Are you

601
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:06.960
comfortable with that or you just resigned
to it? What do you think?

602
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.320
Are you panicky about it? Do
you get panicked about it? So?

603
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:14.519
I'm not panicking. So I kind
of learned, Hey, Tommy Lawyer is

604
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:19.039
gonna recruit whoever he's gonna recruit,
and and I'm not going to be worried

605
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:22.719
about it because I don't have any
control over it. So that's what.

606
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:28.119
So that's what my opinion. And
I trust Tommy layd so And for all

607
00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:32.159
the dumbasses who wants to want wants
to fire him, shut up. I

608
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:36.159
don't even know what you're talking about. Do your head out of your ass.

609
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:39.599
I was gonna say, put your
head on you know. That's the

610
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:44.760
cool Colm gave. Yeah, exactly
exactly, Gabe. We appreciate that.

611
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:46.679
Thank you all right, Gate,
Thanks about any time, bear down,

612
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:54.280
Arizona Cocat. I wish it was
a way that we could like somehow detect

613
00:41:54.400 --> 00:42:00.119
every time that that, you know, go go on our podcast list and

614
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:04.000
find every time that Gabe is called
and see if there's one where he didn't

615
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:12.239
use the word dumb, matter something
along the lines of poop. No,

616
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.559
it's good. I wasn't sure I
thought someone gay because he's calm. Oh

617
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:20.159
no, he's here, he's here. Well, you said that, youve's

618
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:23.079
whole. Starting five will be like
new. There is a chance. What

619
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:27.840
if Caleb does come back and a
yeah, let me ask you, are

620
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.320
you okay with that? I think
Caleb Love on our team next year would

621
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:36.760
be fantastic. And Pele oh no, I'm talking Caleb. Oh if you

622
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:39.639
said fantastic, I think it would
be because you know what he you know

623
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:46.199
what he provides. What's the Because
I do think in this next recruiting class

624
00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:51.519
we have a lot of really really
good guards and even kJ Lewis is kind

625
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:53.880
of that guard forward. Sure,
but you don't and especially if if Boswell

626
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:58.639
is heading to the portal, you
need someone to be able to just be

627
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:01.039
like, hey, this is the
this is how the college game works.

628
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:06.079
Okay, so let's I'm Tommy Lloyd
and this could be a possibility. Caleb.

629
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:08.239
I'm sitting there with Caleb and said
Caleb, I Love you. I

630
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:10.719
think you're great at what you do. You're gonna have to tone it down

631
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:14.280
a bit. You're gonna have to
tone it down a bit. And if

632
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:16.880
he says okay, then okay,
then you you make him stand up to

633
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:19.519
that. And then if he says, I don't know, coach, I

634
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:22.400
think what I'm doing is great.
He said okay, well then go do

635
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:23.880
that over there. Yeah. But
what if he says okay, yeah,

636
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:29.880
coach, it's December and he doesn't
do it. Yeah, now you're sitting

637
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:31.480
in him. Now you're sitting him. No, you're sitting Caleb. Well,

638
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:35.239
see, then you just you guys
made an agreement that this is what

639
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:38.199
we need from you, and you're
not doing it well. I think December

640
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:43.159
and even the first couple of months
there's definitely probably a learning period and a

641
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:45.880
learning curve. Grace with that you
had this this is called this year.

642
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:52.679
No, this year was was Caleb
doing Caleb well? But you could tell

643
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:55.760
when when Tommy talked about Caleb,
it was like tone it down a little

644
00:43:55.800 --> 00:44:00.519
because I think he had some twenty
four shots one day. Let the other

645
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:02.519
guys get involved too. He had
to tell I'm sure you had to tell

646
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:05.800
them a lot, but you also
kind of saw what happened when the other

647
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:08.639
guys tried to get involved. Well, these were times when they didn't need

648
00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:13.480
kill him to go off. It's
understanding. I just I just don't think.

649
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.480
Okay, let me say it this
way. If you say you can

650
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:21.199
have it, okay, let's say
he's available. Okay, Okay, you

651
00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:23.679
say you can have him or not
have I don't know. I think I

652
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:27.719
think I would want it, Yeah, and I don't because I think he's

653
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:31.719
a really good player. And you'd
like to think that next year would be

654
00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:35.239
better than this, that he would
be better next year than less, because

655
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:38.079
you're supposed to get better every year
you're supposed to and now he's been in

656
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:45.000
the quote system under Tommy, they
could build more of a relationship. If

657
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:53.000
if, if it's my choice,
and the option is take him or not

658
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:59.440
taking them taking taking and I'm on
the fence on that just really he just

659
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:01.280
went back to player of the Year. Yeah, but there were circumstances.

660
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:07.400
Actually, my biggest concern would be
how does that affect Jane Bradley. Yes,

661
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:10.480
and and and that's a factor,
and it is, of course it's

662
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:15.960
a fact that but Jayden's not a
high volume score because he didn't have to

663
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:17.840
be. He's not a high volume
score. No, but he's gonna try

664
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:21.679
to. And I don't think that
was one of my criticisms because he every

665
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:22.920
time he had the ball, it
was not to assist, it was to

666
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:27.000
get down in the leg. I
would rather have Caleb try to score than

667
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:30.679
Jayde and Bradley tried to or good
luck to you. I think that backcourt

668
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:35.320
next year is really good. Also
that you have a moving to the new

669
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:37.159
conference, I think you have to
have a killer, like and I'm not

670
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:42.800
saying Caleb is a certified killer,
but like he's a guy that like he's

671
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.639
been in he's played college basketball for
a long time. The funny thing about

672
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:46.519
it, he was very good this
year. He was good this year,

673
00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:52.039
right, guess what he needs to
be even better, even better, And

674
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:54.480
that's what it takes to win national
championships. Yeah, but I don't.

675
00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:59.199
I don't if you choose that way
and Tommy choose a good luck to that

676
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:04.920
good luck. But I know it's
it's tough because it's hard to compare U

677
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:07.679
of A's team to the two teams
that were just in the national championship.

678
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:13.119
But those teams are doing things a
little bit differently than the way U of

679
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:15.480
A's doing it, and not saying
one way is right or wrong. But

680
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:20.360
you look at Yukon and four of
those guys are transfers. You have a

681
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:22.800
stud freshman, and then you have
a big that had been there for two

682
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:25.639
years. This is the thing.
When you have that, and Sean had

683
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:30.320
that too, you have to buy
into the team is the team, and

684
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:35.320
and Sean didn't have that. Sean
didn't get that, and new did Tommy

685
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:38.039
to a degree. Yeah, And
I think that kind of reared its head

686
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:43.920
when we played Clemson. Let me
ask you this, Jay, two three

687
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.639
years ago, two three years ago
with the DS team homming along, homing

688
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:51.960
along, and then in January hit
a hit, a hit. Don't you

689
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:57.920
think if in retrospect Tommy's team this
year we did the same, maybe not

690
00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:00.280
a not a harder wall, but
a wall. No, I know,

691
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:02.559
I think I definitely, I don't
think it hit a wall. I just

692
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:07.480
felt like it got exposed, do
you believe I think I think the word

693
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:12.719
exposed is a good word. But
because even going into the last couple of

694
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:15.320
games before the PACTLL Tournament, we
didn't look great, and Caleb was having

695
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:20.119
off nights. Guys were having off
the last three or four weeks to the

696
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:23.719
end. That Washington State game pretty
much started then. And then you go

697
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:28.840
to the Pac twelve Tournament. You
lose to an Oregon team who had went

698
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:31.719
on to play really good basketball.
But it's like fourteen point lead at one

699
00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:36.679
point. Yeah, this is the
time where ideally, if you're a number

700
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:39.519
two seed in the March madness,
like you should be firing on all cylinders.

701
00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:44.400
And it was kind of the opposite. Even in the Long Beach game,

702
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:47.719
the first fifteen minutes were like,
what's U of a doing? And

703
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:52.920
then they turned it on and then
you play Dayton again. I had to

704
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:54.639
turn it on again, and you
play Clemson. Then you turned it on

705
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:59.119
for a second, you're up one, and then it just is it went

706
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:01.599
downhill again. So maybe not a
wall, would you say, uh,

707
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:05.119
what was your word? Sposed?
Exposed? Sure? But I think they

708
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:07.400
hit a wall. Maybe a soft
wall, but they hit a wall.

709
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:12.440
Because you don't lose to the teams
they lost to, you just don't.

710
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:19.760
You just don't especially here Jay No
No a great you know, but I

711
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:22.039
didn't call that. I wouldn't to
me. I thought the games that they

712
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:24.840
lost, you know, Oregon State, Stanford watching it, those were games

713
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:29.079
where they just came out and just
kind of shrugged their shoulders and said,

714
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:31.000
okay, we'll play right. You
know, that's not hitting a wall.

715
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:35.159
He hit a wall to me implies
you're worn out, you're tired, you

716
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:38.679
got nothing left in the tank,
or there's something happening or something happening.

717
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:42.079
And I don't and I don't know. I'm not saying that they're doing,

718
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:45.800
but there was kind of strange.
It was a weird end of the season.

719
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:47.840
I think weird is a good word
because it's like, you saw how

720
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:52.599
good we were at times, and
he could blow We could blow the doors

721
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:57.199
off people and score hundreds of points
and look good on defense, and we

722
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:00.239
click, we rotate, and our
bench is good. But they when you

723
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:04.199
have games where it's like I hadn't
seen you of a play game like they

724
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:07.840
did. Clemson, we shot what
twenty plus threes, we didn't make any,

725
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:12.679
didn't make any, and it just
it felt like they kind of went

726
00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:15.960
away from what had been working.
Yeah, yeah, I just want you

727
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:25.639
to talk French one more time.
Seriously, you're actually saying if you you're

728
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:30.320
offered Caleb Love is either a wildcot
next year or not, and you get

729
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:34.159
to decide you would be on the
fence the fence, Yeah, I saw

730
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:36.280
what I saw. I got yelled
at him my son for being on the

731
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:37.800
fence the other day. But I
feel like if you put it that way,

732
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:44.239
it's like, you know, he's
a really good player. There's a

733
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:47.199
but, and you'd like and no, and you'd not there's an ad and

734
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:52.000
you'd like to think that he'd be
better next year than this last year,

735
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.079
because you're supposed to get better every
year, that that would be a good

736
00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:58.519
thing for Arizona. But it mind's
a butt. You can use your ad.

737
00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:01.320
But I've seen why. I just
saw yeah, and it wasn't happy

738
00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:06.119
with what I saw. Yeah,
you could say that about almost any really

739
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:08.360
good guard. We're talking about Caleb, I know, but you could say

740
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:13.400
that there's a butt with almost any
good college guard. The only one where

741
00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:15.960
Jamal shed this year. He was
probably one of the best guards in the

742
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:21.559
even Tyler Kohlick. But you could
say Tyler Coleik had a butt, Like

743
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:27.039
these guys are really good college players. But you have the side of Caleb

744
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:29.880
Love, where if he's oh for
eight, he's gonna take that next ninth

745
00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:32.559
shot. If, like you,
you have guys that's not going to change.

746
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:36.920
I know that's not that's who he
is. But you go to there's,

747
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:39.320
however, many college programs in the
country. You go to every single

748
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:43.280
one and they go, hey,
would you would if Caleb Love would want

749
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:46.920
to come here? Would you sign
up for that? From other people?

750
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:51.280
Yep? Because they don't. They
don't didn't have to deal with the un

751
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:53.239
this year. There was a reason. There was a reason. There was

752
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:57.400
a reason we got excited though.
There was a reason why North Carolina let

753
00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:01.440
him go, come on, let
him he left. It depends on who

754
00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:06.360
you talk to. There's a lot
of students. There's a depends on who

755
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:08.199
you talk to. You left one
of the guys that you love to have

756
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:13.119
again, he was no longer there. I'll bet you if I'll bet you

757
00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:15.760
who's the coach there? Davis?
You David Uber Davis. I bet you

758
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:20.440
if Caleb Love gets on the phone
with Hubert Davis tomorrow and goes, hey,

759
00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:22.760
coach, I know I can't come
back here, but if I were

760
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:27.559
to transfer here, would you have
me? Yes? I don't think so.

761
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.000
Let me tell you something. No, no, no, if we

762
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:34.280
could get I know it's too late
now. But Brian Peterson asked him specifically

763
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.800
about are you surprised about the success
or are you're not playing to not surprised

764
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:40.519
about the success of Caleb Love.
He took him about a minute or two

765
00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:46.360
to get to the answer. Did
Hubert Davis before he He didn't know what

766
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:50.360
to say until he got there,
until he said, I get him,

767
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:53.480
we're happy for him, or whatever
it was. If him don this is

768
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:57.800
we're happy for him. Yeah,
that may be the only program then,

769
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:04.119
the one that he left, correct, but or or or or whatever.

770
00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:07.159
Yeah, whatever it may be.
Yeah, if if coach cal at Arkansas

771
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:12.039
brand new program goes to Caleb's the
reason why have you there's a reason why

772
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:15.159
used cars are being sold all over
No one knows a previous owner and what's

773
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:19.800
been and that's what's gone through that
car. Well, and that's the thing

774
00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:24.480
with the whole the whole portal of
now these guys exactly if he goes to

775
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:28.880
Arkansas, I bet you all those
fans didn't watch twenty u of A games

776
00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:35.159
this year. What's the story behind
this prius well, this good Miles City

777
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:39.079
miles highway miles. Yeah, I
don't know. We'll see if he I

778
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:43.800
don't know what he's I do Yeah, only time. Yeah, you just

779
00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:45.360
got to wait this out and see
what I know. How this Prius drove.

780
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:49.280
I don't want to drive it again. But hey, the other car

781
00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:52.320
might be worse, Steve, Well, yeah, but guess what I have

782
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:54.599
to research that other car might be
worse. Yeah, cars, baby,

783
00:52:55.039 --> 00:53:00.599
car facts. All right, that's
it for Well, we're not gonna We're

784
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:05.480
off Tomorrow and Friday, so we'll
be back on Monday. Argue with me

785
00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:07.679
exactly. Thanks for being here.
We'll see you on Monday.