WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:03.799 Hey, everybody, this is Less Stride. Yes, yes I know aka 2 00:00:04.320 --> 00:00:30.160 Surviving Man, and you're listening to Brian on sasquats odys he guys, and 3 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:34.280 welcome back to Sasquatch. I thank you so much for clicking play. It 4 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:37.159 is Wednesday. I hope you guys have had a great week. We have 5 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:39.960 an amazing guest lined up for you. But as always, I want to 6 00:00:39.960 --> 00:00:43.320 start the show by and by the If you've had any counter and you'd like 7 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:45.799 to be on the show, shoot me an email. You get me at 8 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:49.719 Brian at parent or introductions dot com and head over to the website check it 9 00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:53.920 out. Welcome remember there and help support the show. As I said, 10 00:00:53.920 --> 00:00:57.000 We've got a great show lined up for you. This is the story that 11 00:00:57.200 --> 00:01:00.799 I have been talking about and teasing for probably about a month now. On 12 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:04.519 the show, you have heard me talk about this encounter over the last month, 13 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:11.040 because it's honestly one of the weirdest encounters that I have ever heard from 14 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:14.519 anybody that I've ever talked to that have claimed to have had an encounter with 15 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:18.280 Sasquatch. And during the times that I've talked about this, I've made it 16 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:21.879 very clear that I have struggled about putting it out there for you guys to 17 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:26.560 consume. And I say that simply because the story is or really out there, 18 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:30.319 and it takes a twist and a turn that I certainly did not expect 19 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:33.040 For any of you guys that are listening that have been on the show. 20 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:36.879 You know, I do not talk to you a lot about your encounter before 21 00:01:36.920 --> 00:01:38.920 I have you on the show because sort of the secret sauce for me is 22 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:42.319 I want to hear the encounters for the very first time, just like the 23 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:47.719 audience does, so I can have an honest and open dialogue and discussion and 24 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:51.840 reaction to whatever it is that you're saying. I don't like to make preconceived 25 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:56.000 judgments and notions about what I'm going to hear. That said, I obviously 26 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:59.239 didn't talk to Ryan about what he was going to talk about when he came 27 00:01:59.280 --> 00:02:00.680 on the show. I knew you had an encounter. I knew the claim 28 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:04.599 to have seen a sasquatch, and that's as far as the conversation went. 29 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:08.439 So I was very surprised when he started telling me about his experience. I 30 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:12.759 finally had a conversation a couple of nights ago with Danny and I just said, 31 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:16.360 look, I've been sitting on this episode for probably gosh since April of 32 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:20.520 this year. In addition to the conversation I had with Danny, I had 33 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:23.199 a conversation with a lot of you guys up at the Smokey Mountain Bigfoot conference 34 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:27.159 and I sort of told you a little bit about this episode, And I 35 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:30.280 ask you, the audience, is this something that you would like to hear 36 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:35.319 on the show? Because it is really out there, and overwhelmingly everybody that 37 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:38.919 I've talked to said yes. From day one, this show has been built 38 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:43.759 on a foundation of not sitting in judgment of people's experiences and allowing them to 39 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:47.719 share them as they happened or they believed that they happened to them during their 40 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:53.240 encounters with what they believed to be sasquatch. That's where we are. So 41 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:57.520 all I ask of you is listen to this in its entirety with an open 42 00:02:57.599 --> 00:03:00.039 mind, because I do ask him some very questions at the end of this 43 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:04.400 interview, and I think you're going to be interested to hear what he has 44 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:06.599 to say. So with that, I'm gonna let the music play. You 45 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:09.080 guys, get ready to sit back, relax, and listen to the wildest 46 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:35.199 bigfoot story I have ever heard. Her. Folks want to walk up our 47 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:38.560 guests to the show. It is Ryan from Victoria, British Columbia, Canada. 48 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:40.639 Welcome to the show. Ryan, Thank you for having me. I 49 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:44.199 am glad to have you. So let's get right into it. Let's talk 50 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:47.199 about this bigfoot thing. What got you interested in the subject of sasquatch in 51 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:53.000 the first place. I had a minor I believe, encounter going on a 52 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:58.800 train across Canada when I was about eleven years old. I can't remember which, 53 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:04.199 somewhere between Ontario and probably Alberta. We were going. The train was 54 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:06.960 moving, I was looking out the window. Me and my sister used to 55 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:12.719 have a competition on trying to see how many animals we could see. And 56 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:16.839 we went past this one thing and there was these two gorilla looking things, 57 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:21.040 only they were wearing sun hats made out of wreaths. Weaved out a wreathe 58 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:27.279 and there was a baby and an adult and I went by within four seconds 59 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:30.959 and I noticed it and I turned to my mom and I go wherever we 60 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:32.560 were. I knew where we were at the time. I said, do 61 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:36.680 they have a gorilla's earlier or something like that. She said no, and 62 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:42.240 I just basically brushed it off. But when we got to BC, I 63 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:46.000 got my very first book on big Foot. I can't remember who it was 64 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:50.319 by or anything like that, and I've been not super interested ever since, 65 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:54.920 but like, whenever anything came up, I was really like, Okay, 66 00:04:54.959 --> 00:04:58.560 this is cool. I wanted to believe they were real. And I know 67 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:01.720 that wasn't your only experience. So was it just that that really got you 68 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:05.879 interested, That brief encounter, that brief siding. They got you interested, 69 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:10.120 and then you got your first book and started maybe doing some research. How 70 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:14.160 long was it after that until you had your next encounter or your next experience? 71 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:16.600 Oh it had been years. And I really that was the only Brilli 72 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:21.879 book I got on it. But I remember thinking that when I was eleven, 73 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:26.079 and when I saw these things, I always thought big foot was one 74 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:29.639 kind of monster thing that lived in the woods. There wasn't a bunch of 75 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:31.639 them, there was just one. That's the way I thought. And then 76 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:35.519 when I saw these two gorillas, said beside, they looked like gorillas, 77 00:05:35.519 --> 00:05:40.519 but they weren't. I know that. And there was no fancying or anything 78 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:43.519 like that in the baby was playing with a stick. I remember that, 79 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:46.800 and it just got my interest up. Okay, these things are probably real 80 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:50.560 a little bit. And then I had another encounter in a logging camp, 81 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:57.199 which was another brief, brief experience. I was setting chokers and it was 82 00:05:57.199 --> 00:05:59.879 in some burnt stuff, so there was no branches, and you can see 83 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:03.279 by of ways and in amongst the logs, and I for a split second 84 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:08.040 I saw something jump in look at me, and then jump out, and 85 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:10.959 I just wiped my eyes and went, what the hell was that? And 86 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:15.480 that was my second experience. And I never really thought into that either, 87 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:19.519 and so that was my second experience. And then I guess it was nineteen 88 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:25.399 somewhere between eighty nine ninety. I think it was eighty nine. And when 89 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:29.759 we went out on this expedition with this outward bound course, I was on 90 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:33.519 in a place called Camp Snowdon, which was a prison camp at one time, 91 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:36.399 and it was also a logging camp for a little while too. Now 92 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:40.560 it was not a prison camp or anything like that when I attended. It 93 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:44.879 was just basically an outward bound course that we were doing, and it had 94 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:47.240 they had computers there and we got to play with them and do little side 95 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:51.360 projects and stuff like that, and there was I got the picture here. 96 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:55.959 I think I sent you the picture. There was six seventy nine of us 97 00:06:56.000 --> 00:07:00.399 that went on this expedition was supposed to be a five day for five day 98 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:02.839 expedition. We had enough food for four or five days where we had drive 99 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:09.839 to this specific location and then canoe or about maybe forty five minutes and then 100 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:15.439 pick out pick out a place to climb up to this desolate log cabin that 101 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:18.680 we were trying to go to. And we set up in the morning. 102 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:24.920 We had all the food and everything, and we got there and we put 103 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:28.959 our kayaks or canoe as a camera member which into the water, got in 104 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:30.879 them, and we started rolling. It was a bit windy out, a 105 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:34.439 bit brisk, a bit windy either. It wasn't like white caps or anything 106 00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:36.800 like that, but the water was a bit rough, no, but not 107 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:41.360 nothing that we couldn't handle. And we started canoeing there. And the first 108 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:44.040 thing I noticed, one of the first things we noticed, there was this 109 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:47.800 great, big, huge excrement floating in the water. It was huge, 110 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:50.759 It was like spe feet long before it be long, and I go, 111 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:55.759 I wonder what it was? A whale? Sea lion. I don't know 112 00:07:55.800 --> 00:08:00.279 what, but that's what we thought. And we just kept canoeing and we 113 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:03.120 canute to this little cove. It had a ridge running up the right hand 114 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:09.639 side was a little tiny cove, no more than probably maybe four thirty forty 115 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:15.759 feet long, and we pulled in and I thought I noticed something move up 116 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:18.439 on the ridge. Now we couldn't if we could climb it, but it 117 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:22.800 was the ridge that was running up. And we chose that area because there 118 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:24.800 was a ridge running all the way up and it would keep us out of 119 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:30.519 the wind. And like I said, I thought caught something standing on the 120 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:33.399 top of the cliffs and turned and ran into the bushes. I never thought 121 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:35.720 much of that either. I thought, all I could have been a deer, 122 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:39.759 it could have been something else. And so we stashed our canoes and 123 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:43.960 we stashed our oars in a different place, and we started on our track 124 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:48.759 and we got maybe twenty minutes into the trek and we heard a really loud, 125 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:54.960 distinct wood knock and one of the councilors went, oh, coola would 126 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:58.320 knock. And the councilor was right behind me, and I went, yeah, 127 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:01.799 so it's probably some logger something. He goes Ryan, there's nobody within 128 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:05.279 fifty miles of us. That was that's a sign of big foot. I 129 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:09.840 went big foot cool. So I proceeded on up the path and the first 130 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:13.720 stick I found, they did the one knock and then I did the shave 131 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:18.840 and a haircut by cents or with the stick against a tree, right, 132 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:22.240 I think, And nothing really happened, and we continued on with our hike. 133 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:26.720 I guess we hiked probably for about an hour and a half maybe two 134 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:30.240 hours, and then one of the councilors looked at two of us stronger guys 135 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:33.120 and said, you guys can run ahead and go find us a place to 136 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:37.159 camp for the night. And we were like okay, And so we go 137 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:41.120 running ahead, and there was really not much to choose from, and then 138 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:43.600 we came to this one spot that was the level, and then I noticed 139 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:50.519 there was through the napete was broken up and you could actually see to another 140 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:54.440 cliff on the other side. It was like a bee going down the cliffs 141 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:58.120 on both sides, and that was I just walked over to that, and 142 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:03.879 I came around this tree and this tree was just like out of a horror 143 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:09.399 set. It was growing on on top of a rock, and all of 144 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:13.399 the roots in the ground made a complete, perfect circle. They were going 145 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:18.600 in and out of the ground in a perfect circle around the base of this 146 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:20.879 tree and where the rock was, and then there was hedges going both sides 147 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:26.519 down both sides, and in this circle it was all hard pack and small 148 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:31.679 pebbles. Outside of the ring it was grass and weeds and stuff like that, 149 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:35.720 but inside the circle was perfectly clear and I'm at the perfect place to 150 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:39.720 count. So I started setting up my camp there, and there was the 151 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:43.840 places where other people could count, and around the tree there was another one 152 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:48.679 of these things that was kind of kidney shaped but pretty big, and the 153 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:52.279 guy that ran up with me chose that as his spot. So I set 154 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:56.639 up my tent in there, and then people started showing up. And first 155 00:10:56.639 --> 00:10:58.879 person shows up it was a First Nations friend that was with us, and 156 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:01.039 he said, Brian, I don't think you should camp there. It looks 157 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:05.000 like an animal's nest. So right away him via a First Nations like a 158 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:09.799 better check this out. So I walked around the entire tree looking for scratch 159 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:15.960 marks for anything like that, and there was absolutely nothing. And then the 160 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:18.480 council at one of the councilor showed up and said, Brian, I don't 161 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:20.919 think you should sleep there. It looks like an animal's nest. I thought, 162 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:24.000 these people are just jealous because I got the best spot in the world 163 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:28.399 of the camp out of all of them, right, And I set up 164 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:31.200 my camp and I just blew them all off, and we ended up eating 165 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:37.120 dinner. And then it was started to get it with like September or October, 166 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:39.519 so it gets dark a bitler early, and so we all got near 167 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:43.759 a camp near our tents. Now, my tent was isolated from everybody else 168 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:48.000 because of the hedge around it and the tree and everything like that. If 169 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:52.600 I walked maybe three or four feet ahead, I could see where the other 170 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:56.480 best type thing was and where Colin, one of the guys I was with 171 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:00.559 us, set up his tent. But I had to walk a bit, 172 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:05.360 like maybe three or four yards, maybe five yards to be able to see 173 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:09.879 it. So I'm sitting at my camp. We've ten and we finished eating. 174 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:13.759 It's getting it's starting to get a bit dark, and one of the 175 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:18.519 councilors comes walking up with his dog and says, what do you think do 176 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:20.679 you think this is some kind of animals? And s, do you think 177 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:24.480 it's smart to sleep here? You know? We just both laughed, right, 178 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:28.360 and then I can't describe the sound that we heard. It was just 179 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:33.000 incredible, the closest thing I've heard to it. I was on a BC 180 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:37.480 ferry. I was on the top deck when the horn went off, and 181 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:41.720 that's what it really sounded or felt like, was like a whoop followed by 182 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:46.279 a gir at the end, and the councilor looked at me. I looked 183 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:50.679 at him and I went, what was that? And he stumbled on his 184 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:54.639 words and he goes, I think it was an elk, trying to convince 185 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:56.879 himself that it was an elk because I've never heard anything like this, and 186 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:01.720 I'm sure he hadn't either, And so he walked away and I climbed into 187 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:05.519 my tents. I was just sorting things out, and I was thinking, 188 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:11.080 maybe this wasn't such a good idea to set my tent up here. And 189 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:13.840 then so my time had passed a little bit. I noticed it was getting 190 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:18.600 darker. It was just about maybe fifteen twenty minutes of light left, and 191 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:20.919 I go, I better go out and relieve myself now, because I don't 192 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:24.000 want to go out in the dark and have to do it. Everybody had 193 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:31.200 pretty much settled into their tents. I noticed this hedge that was probably maybe 194 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:33.679 ten fifteen yards away, and I thought, okay, that's where I'm going 195 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:37.600 to go relieve myself. And I started walking towards it, and all of 196 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:41.879 a sudden, I just got this feeling, don't do it. Something does 197 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:46.639 not feel right. So I stopped halfway and started relieving myself. And as 198 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:50.600 I was relieving myself, I caught some movement out of my eye and I 199 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:56.799 looked up and there was this female big foot. She didn't Egyptian pose, 200 00:13:56.000 --> 00:14:01.840 but with hands bent, I only bent outwards an Egyptian plose. And she 201 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:07.559 was pursing her lips at and going like that. And then her eyes darted 202 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:11.559 off to her right and she pointed, and then she pointed to her right, 203 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:13.559 and it was almost like they were putting on his show. It was 204 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:18.840 putting on a show. And I kept my head down so they really couldn't 205 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:22.320 see my eyes. I looked over to the right when she pointed that way, 206 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:28.159 and this guy stepped out. He was probably between nine and thirteen tall, 207 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:33.759 looked like Arnold Schwarzenegger times ten on steroids he stepped out into a patch 208 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:37.360 a light that was punching through all the canopy and stuff like that, and 209 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:43.080 I could see him distinctly. And then it was like he dissolved into himself 210 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:46.679 and came down into as like he dislocated every bone in his body and got 211 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:52.519 down into a crawling position and started crawling towards me. After my left. 212 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:56.240 He was blanking me from my left, and I looked to the left of 213 00:14:56.360 --> 00:15:00.360 me, and on the other cliff was another female and she was in the 214 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:03.679 Egyptian pose as well. And then I looked over by Collins tent and there 215 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:09.200 was two more coming up by Collins tent, and then a third one peeled 216 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:13.720 itself off the tree behind my tent. And I know this thing's flanking me, 217 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:16.200 and I'm not looking at it. I'm pretending it's not there. And 218 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:20.399 I'm saying to myself, Ryan, you're about to see a big foot. 219 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:24.480 These are not bears, they're not animals. You know every animal encounter you've 220 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:28.679 had in the past. Don't smile at it, don't look at it in 221 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:33.679 the eye, don't show any aggression. We met at the tent. For 222 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:37.879 some stupid reason, I zipped and my tent shut. I had to reach 223 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:39.960 down and unzip it, so I didn't even look at the things on the 224 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:45.679 other side of my tent staring at me. I reached down it seems shake 225 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:48.480 forever, and I unzipped the tent, and then I looked at it, 226 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:52.240 and I gave it a nod, and I dove into the tent, laid 227 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:56.120 on the sleeve being bag, curled up in the fetal position, and expected 228 00:15:56.159 --> 00:16:00.000 to die because this thing was huge and it was no problem. They could 229 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:03.559 have picked me up with the tent and threw me off a cliff, no 230 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:08.080 problem at all. This thing was huge. I've seen its face. It 231 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:12.679 was up close within like on the other side of the tent. I noticed 232 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:18.399 my sense of smell. Didn't really I wasn't thinking about that. I was 233 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:22.840 just worried about everything else. But I do read distinctly, remembering the smelling 234 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:26.480 of a musty cave and a garbage dump, burning and wet dog all mixed 235 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:30.840 together. I did look at this thing. I got a good look at 236 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:33.080 it, and then I, like I said, I dove in my tent, 237 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:36.639 curled in the fetal position and waited to die because I really thought we 238 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:38.240 were going to die. And I thought I got everybody in the camp killed, 239 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:42.000 because there was like five or six of these things around. We were 240 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:47.000 surrounded, so I didn't have much flash light on or anything like that. 241 00:16:47.159 --> 00:16:49.279 Some time had passed, it was dark, and then all of a sudden, 242 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:52.480 I hear the zipper like I did, zip the tent back up when 243 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:56.159 I got back in there, and all of a sudden, I hear the 244 00:16:56.360 --> 00:17:00.039 zipper un zipping, and so I grabbed the flashlight, thinking, okay, 245 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:04.240 a councilor's coming to check on me. And I flicked the flashlight on, 246 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:08.880 and the zipper zipped up to the point where the door was still hanging shut, 247 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:12.680 but the tent was open. Then nothing. I thought, Oh my 248 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:17.839 god, what's going on? And then the biggest hand I've ever seen in 249 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:22.599 my life came in through the door of the tent and started patting down the 250 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:29.079 bottom of the tent. I grabbed my knapsack, squeezed the knapsack, and 251 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:33.359 did a complete check at the bottom of the tent. It's hand went I 252 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:37.200 was on top of my sleeping bag, still fully dressed. It went down 253 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:41.079 both sides of me with this hand what I figured was checking for guns, 254 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:45.480 and then then it gently tapped me on the waist. It just gently tapped 255 00:17:45.519 --> 00:17:49.200 me, and the hand disappeared. And at that point it was a bit 256 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:52.279 of relief, because if it wanted to kill me, I thought it would 257 00:17:52.279 --> 00:17:56.640 have just grabbed me, threw me, pulled me out of the tent, 258 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:00.720 threw me off a cliff, and so a couple more and it had passed 259 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:03.799 the flashlights on. Now I can see, and I'm still nervous, of 260 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:08.359 course, and then all of a sudden, this little tiny hand comes underneath 261 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:12.799 the door of the tent and starts mimicking what the big hand it did, 262 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:18.000 and it looks so cute and everything, and it was like waving his hand 263 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:21.880 to come here, like it was laying on the bottom of the tant, 264 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:25.559 and it was like coaxing me touch its hand kind of, and so I 265 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:30.279 did. I can't remember if I gave it the brother handshake or if I 266 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:33.759 tickled his hand, but it did something. And then the hand disappeared. 267 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:38.359 And then probably two minutes later, this what I thought at the time, 268 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:42.240 when was a baby bigfoot got I believe it got knocked into the tent, 269 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:47.839 because it just stumbled into the tent and it started pointing at me. And 270 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:51.440 it was doing the back and forth on both legs, saying pointing at me, 271 00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:55.839 saying stuff and gibberish, and it was the cutest thing in the world. 272 00:18:56.240 --> 00:18:59.000 And I just basically did what I did with the big one. I 273 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:02.599 just know I did, and gave him a note because it looked like he 274 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:06.920 wanted to get aggressive. And then after I did that, he settled down 275 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:11.079 and he reached his hand out. We shook hands, and then we patted 276 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:15.079 each other on the back, got closer. He started hugging me, and 277 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:18.519 then I thought he was trying to kiss me. He was going to try 278 00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:21.759 to kiss me, and it was so cute that I just did on the 279 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:25.160 cheek and while they gave me the weirdest look, I think because what he 280 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:29.000 wanted to do was touch my hair and smell it. Then all of a 281 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:32.000 sudden, there was a gasp from outside. I guess they noticed that this 282 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:34.279 I thought, what like I thought at the time, was a baby big 283 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:38.880 but there was a bunch of gaps coming from outside. Of course, the 284 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:42.680 tent door flew open then, but I couldn't see much because it was dark 285 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:47.160 out. I could see shadows, that was about it, and this baby 286 00:19:47.279 --> 00:19:51.000 was in there and it was in my arms at this point. It stunk 287 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:55.880 like high heaven. It's the only one that other than the big guy, 288 00:19:56.000 --> 00:20:00.319 that had any kind of smell. It really stunk. But I I wasn't 289 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:03.359 noticing at the time because I was aware of what was going on that I 290 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:07.279 don't think I really cared about any kind of smell or anything like that. 291 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:17.079 Stay tuned for more Sasquatch otessee right back after these messages. So then the 292 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:18.960 baby big point, which i'll call it for now until we get to the 293 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:22.440 point where I found out what it was, grabbed a strand of my hair 294 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:27.440 standing beside me, grabbed a strand of my hair and held it up and 295 00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:32.759 gently. He just held up some of my hair and then said something in 296 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:36.240 gibrous to all the ones that were out atside of the tent, and they 297 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:40.759 all started laughing. What I thought it was basically just a blonde joke he 298 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:44.839 was telling or something like that. Then what happened, Oh, two young 299 00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:49.160 adolescent females came into my tent and they knelt down. They didn't nail the 300 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:52.519 squatted. They squatted down on one side of the tent. And I'm playing 301 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:57.680 with the baby by now and he's playing with my hair, and eventually I 302 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:04.799 just handed him off to one of the adolescents, and the adolescents both they 303 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:08.799 sat there for a few minutes, and then this other female came in and 304 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:14.160 she was probably about six foot too. Maybe can't tell because she was in 305 00:21:14.279 --> 00:21:18.480 the tent, but I knew she was pretty tall and lean and lanky. 306 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:23.640 It's three signed. She can went guns, you got any guns and stuff 307 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:26.960 like that, and I'm like, no, no guns, and then she 308 00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:33.920 the lessons left with what I thought was in baby. The female was there 309 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:37.160 for a few minutes and we just signed to each other, and then she 310 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:41.359 grabbed me by both risks gently and saying stay here and don't go tell the 311 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:45.640 others what's going on. And they hadn't killed me. I was having her 312 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:51.839 poor with them. I wasn't afraid anymore. I was more excited of what 313 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:55.799 was happening. And you could tell that all of the all these creatures were 314 00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:59.759 old. The females hadn't left. After that, I forgot because the ad 315 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:03.759 because they all wanted to touch my hair, all of them, they just 316 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:07.839 and I went sure, I gave them. They all wanted to touch and 317 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:11.920 smell my hair. And you to tell they were all excited, and the 318 00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:15.680 female that showed up after they left her as really you could tell she was 319 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:18.799 excited. So he grabbed me by both risks really gently said stay here and 320 00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:22.640 shifted her eyes. Don't go tell the others what's going on. And I'm 321 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:27.480 like okay, So she left. I was finally relieved because I went from 322 00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:30.880 thinking I was going to die too maybe I'm not going to die after all. 323 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:34.680 And I found that as an opportunity to have a cigarette because it was 324 00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:40.920 too afraid to anytime before that. So I had a smoke, and probably 325 00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:45.400 three or four minutes after the smoke, the female came back with another female. 326 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:48.720 She had some kind of hide rolled up. She came in the tent 327 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:55.400 with the other female and we both acknowledged each other. I'm serious. I 328 00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:57.759 was into music. I've been in a lot of bands and stuff like that, 329 00:22:57.799 --> 00:23:03.599 and I've dated a lot really gorgeous women, strippers and models and so 330 00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:10.720 forth. But this other female was draw dead gorgeous. Sheoked like a mixture 331 00:23:10.759 --> 00:23:15.039 of Angelina Jolie and Ray John Chong. She was absolutely I'm serious at tan 332 00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:21.680 Easily she came into the tent with the other female and she had this hide 333 00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:23.960 with her rolled out the hide with her back turned to me, and so 334 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:26.440 I couldn't see the hide, and she was doing stuff, and me and 335 00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:30.559 the other female were just googling each other, like just looking at each other 336 00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:37.680 and smiling and stuff like that. She laid out another hide and put three 337 00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:42.759 things on each side, like on three things on exact same things on both 338 00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:47.599 sides of the hide mined up. There was a dried up mushroom. I 339 00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:49.880 can't remember which order they ran. There was a dried up mushroom. There 340 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:55.119 was something that looked like logan berries, only they were black. Then there 341 00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:57.400 was a leaf with some kind of brown powder on it. There was a 342 00:23:57.440 --> 00:24:02.160 timing between them. They showed me how to do it, and he had 343 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:04.559 to eat the vine with the berries on it and the powder. You had 344 00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:07.880 to roll up to the leaf and eat that. The female that brought the 345 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:12.640 medicine bag said goodbye, and she left me with the other female. And 346 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:18.720 the other female was just going probably fifteen maybe twenty minutes, I'm not sure, 347 00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:22.319 and she just kept on footing her hand up weight, and then all 348 00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:25.599 of a sudden, it was like the whole universe opened up. There was 349 00:24:25.640 --> 00:24:29.640 a diorama between the both of us and three D of our solar system, 350 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:33.559 and it was so cool. And then I'm staring at this and then all 351 00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:37.480 of a sudden, this voice comes at an or and she goes, we 352 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:41.480 have names. That was the very first thing I heard. And then I'm 353 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:45.319 like, oh, wow, what's your name? And she said, I'm 354 00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:51.960 Kara of the daughter of Gar and Mira. So I didn't induced myself by 355 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:56.559 my mom's name and my dad's name, and I'm from Victoria, British Columbia. 356 00:24:56.880 --> 00:24:59.039 When I said Victoria brillly, she goes, oh, do you know 357 00:24:59.119 --> 00:25:03.680 the doctor And I'm like, no, idea what you're talking about. And 358 00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:07.160 she said his name and it sounded really funny coming out of her, doctor 359 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:10.440 Bender Nigel, and I said no, I don't, and she goes, 360 00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:14.559 if you ever run into him, tell him about us. And I didn't 361 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:17.519 know. Back then, I didn't know doctor Bender Nikol. I didn't know 362 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:22.000 anything about him or anything like that. And then after that we started talking. 363 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:26.359 She asked us why we were there, and I said we were there. 364 00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:29.839 She goes, are you did you come here to hunt fish or prospect 365 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:33.920 and I'm like, nope, we're only here to enjoy nature and she loved 366 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:37.000 that, and she goes, I knew you were a good one when you 367 00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:41.000 pulled up on the beach and I respond got a compliments in there, and 368 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:44.759 then we talked about everything and everything I can know, stuff I can remember. 369 00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:48.039 I asked them about the wood knock and they said that wasn't warning to 370 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:55.279 all the others that there was intruders coming. And I asked about I can't 371 00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:57.599 so much stuff that I asked her. I asked about religion, and I 372 00:25:57.640 --> 00:26:02.920 asked about what they do for entertainment. I will be out there salon. 373 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:07.160 I asked them about what they eat at the beginning shure, I go, 374 00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:11.720 are you going to kill and eat us? And if she laughed and she 375 00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:14.680 goes, no, she reassured me, no, we're not going to do 376 00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:18.799 that. And beside you're too salty. Yeah, we talked about everything, 377 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:22.640 religion. I asked about gar that's the name. I asked the names of 378 00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:25.000 them. I said, first of all, it was the baby, and 379 00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:30.759 she said that was Tack about ta I believe Tak and that he was Bukus. 380 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.680 At the time, I thought that may just meant baby, so I 381 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:37.640 assumed it was a baby big foot. Apparently the bucosts are something that hang 382 00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:41.319 out with the big Foot. And it was just a little guy, really 383 00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:45.960 super cute. It looked like I just a miniature, three foot tall human. 384 00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:48.519 And then I asked about Gar and she said, oh, the big 385 00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:51.359 guy. Said what about the big guy? And she goes, oh, 386 00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:55.480 Gar, Gar was really impressed with the way you handled yourself. She said, 387 00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:59.480 We've seen a lot of people react to Gar before. She said he 388 00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:03.319 one time he swam up to a boat and he thought they were being too 389 00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:06.160 greedy and taking too much fish, and he swam up and got on the 390 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:10.039 boat, and everybody jumped off the boat and stuff like that. And then 391 00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:12.759 she showed me another time where a guy ran into him and he looked at 392 00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:18.240 Gard. He urinated in his pants and he turned around. Oh, I 393 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:21.880 should tell you about of the things that we ate, because I asked about 394 00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:25.640 that. I asked about what we ate? What was that all about? 395 00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:29.839 And like it had just opened up this whole world where we were communicating, 396 00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:33.359 because they did speak their own language before they fed me that they were talking 397 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:37.839 and it was weird, gibberish kind of stuff. And so I asked about 398 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:41.799 what we ate and she goes, Oh, that's what we give. We 399 00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:45.640 feed that to large animals and we can communicate with them, and so we 400 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:51.319 always know where the animals are. And she said that attack disappeared a lot 401 00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:53.880 times and they wanted to find them, and so they would feed this to 402 00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:57.640 the animals and ask if they had seen tack, and they'd find Tack up 403 00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:00.920 in the mountains playing with the stick, talking to a bird or something like 404 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:06.759 that. So that's what they fed me. And I asked about religion. 405 00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:11.720 She said that Jesus was real and that guard talks about them all the time. 406 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:15.799 I asked about Yeah, what they eat? They eat A lot of 407 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:18.680 seafood, a lot of seaweed. They eat all the fruits and nuts and 408 00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:22.799 stuff like that, but a lot of seaweed, certain kinds of seaweed, 409 00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:27.440 and a shellfish and stuff like that. She said, they rarely eat meat. 410 00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:33.680 They do eat meat. They have one gathering every year under a full 411 00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:37.680 moon in a certain spot. They will eat meat on that occasion, but 412 00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.839 majority of the time they do not eat meat at all. What else, 413 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.000 Oh, I asked about the First the First Nations people. She brought it 414 00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:51.039 up. She said they made really sad that they used to be trading partners. 415 00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:55.039 They used to trade in the past, but then something happened where they 416 00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:59.359 got excused of doing something that they didn't do. They were just at the 417 00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:03.160 right place at the right time, and they were the wrong time, and 418 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:07.440 they got accused of doing something. They had had falling out with the First 419 00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:11.400 Nations people. And that's what she said, not me. I'm not saying. 420 00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:15.160 I don't I don't know what to say about that. Yeah, okay. 421 00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.640 And then what else did we talk about? Oh, we talked about 422 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.440 when we talked about Guar. She told me that she showed me was remote 423 00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:26.319 viewing on this whatever it is. They fed me. You could show things 424 00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:30.880 from your past, no problem, just like watching a video. I asked 425 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:34.160 about Guar. When I asked about Gar, she said he was. She 426 00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:40.039 showed me all these kind of pods falling on fire through the sky, and 427 00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:42.880 she said that they had been sent here, that Guard had been sent here 428 00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:48.200 with others to plant this first forest. She showed me the earth where some 429 00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:52.200 of these pods were falling from the sky and some were already landed, and 430 00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:57.319 these people were getting out. She said that they were here to plant and 431 00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:03.839 tend the first tree, plant the forest and look after the earth. And 432 00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:07.279 she showed me the earth and at that point it was just a big molting. 433 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.839 I could see molten rock everywhere and geysers and stuff like that. And 434 00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:18.359 then she goes they spent a lot of time in Egypt. She actually showed 435 00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:22.839 me with him walking with people in the distance by the pyramids, and the 436 00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:26.279 pyramids were all dug. They're buried now. Compared to what I saw. 437 00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:30.720 There was ramps and stuff like that. They showed me Garonmira walking with people 438 00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:34.400 on one of these ramps. And this is through another person's another big foot's 439 00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:38.960 eyes. If you see something like she brought up. I never heard of 440 00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:42.400 eight Canyon. I probably heard about it over the years, but I just 441 00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:48.839 never really heard the full story or anything until recently until she told me too. 442 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:51.880 She told me that she goes to eight Canyon. She brought up eight 443 00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:56.440 Canyon and she showed me where they had shot They had shot this big foot 444 00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:00.000 off of a cliff and he sell off the cliff and there pretended that he 445 00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.400 was dead. And then she showed me through her revolte viewing through another big 446 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:07.759 food's eyes, that he eventually flipped over and got into the spider crawl and 447 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.680 crawled away. Yeah, there's just so much stuff that I'm leaving out, 448 00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:18.759 and there's so much that happened. Eventually we came to a point where there 449 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.920 was a low in the conversation. She was now kind of stretched out on 450 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:26.039 my sleeping bag, just her lake stretched out and I could see the bottom 451 00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:27.599 of her feet, and I blurted out, we call you big foot. 452 00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:32.720 And she didn't know what to make of it, and she started laughing and 453 00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:34.680 I said, no, that's what we call you your feet or fine, 454 00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.039 and I said, I explained to her why we call it big before we 455 00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:41.519 find your foot prints everywhere and blah blah, bah blah, and then she 456 00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:45.319 we goold her toes and she giggled a bit. Mattswomen. We fell into 457 00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:49.920 each other's arms and we ended up doing the deed. And I would not 458 00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:55.440 have done that if I thought she was any kind of animal or ape. 459 00:31:55.759 --> 00:32:00.839 They were very human, extremely human. So we did the deed. I 460 00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:05.240 guess. Morning came. I woke up and I snuggled up to her and 461 00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:08.039 I crawled up and I was staring at her face and she opened her eyes. 462 00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:12.000 We looked into each other's eyes and she gave me a big smile, 463 00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:14.960 and then all of a sudden she got to look like something was wrong. 464 00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.440 I know that look, and I said, what's wrong? She goes Gar 465 00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:22.480 had asked her to get one of her girls to seduce me and get my 466 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:27.359 seed. And she reassured me that she would not have done this if she 467 00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:30.279 didn't like me or anything like that. She really liked me, and blah 468 00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:35.119 blah blah blah blah. And then all of sudden she got another look like 469 00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:37.640 my parents are home. I know that look too, and she got up 470 00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:42.039 and rambled out of the tent, and I wanted to go after her, 471 00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.960 and I went to get up, and I just got drained of every bit 472 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:47.920 of energy I had, and I fell back down and fell back to sleep, 473 00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:53.039 which felt like about fifteen minutes. And that's when I felt like a 474 00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:55.880 fifteen minutes. And then I got woken up by the one of the counselors. 475 00:32:55.920 --> 00:33:00.200 They sounded really mad for some reason. Ryan get up, and I 476 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:05.960 basically told him to yeah, And I eventually got up, probably about fifteen 477 00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:09.839 minutes after that. Nobody was talking. Everybody looked worried. When I got 478 00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:14.119 over there, the first thing I did is I walked. I didn't remember 479 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:19.759 anything from the night before, absolutely not a thing of what happened during the 480 00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.559 night. And I walked over to the First Nations guy that was with us, 481 00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.720 and I said, did you hear that wallop last night when we were 482 00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:29.839 all going to bed? And he goes, yeah, and I go the 483 00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:31.440 counsel over there thinks that it was an elk? What do you think? 484 00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:37.160 And he just shook and said sasquatch. And I thought, I thought so. 485 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.319 And meanwhile, like I said, I'd not remember anything in the night 486 00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:45.079 before except that I stunt at like bo, the worst bo you ever smelled 487 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:49.440 in your life. And I never get bo. I really cleaningless conecious, 488 00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.720 and I have my foods a safe and I took in our RCA course to 489 00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:58.039 look after old people, so I'm really clean person and I never smell like 490 00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:01.559 that. And it was it was hard to describe the smell and just breaked 491 00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:06.599 like bad bo. That the worst bo you could ever think of, mixed 492 00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:10.360 with wet dog, mixed with fish and everything else. It was the worst 493 00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:15.519 smell in the world. And so I gave myself a spongebass put the T 494 00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:20.920 shirt that I was wearing into a plastic bag and changed and like I said, 495 00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:23.280 I did washed down. And then when I got to the fire, 496 00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:27.840 they were deciding whether or not, and I noticed the dog was all dish 497 00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.480 give everybody looked disheveled, like they hadn't slapped her. And even though the 498 00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:35.559 dog and then they were trying. We were trying to decide whether to go 499 00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:39.719 back right then and there or continue on our day hike and then just set 500 00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:45.079 up our town somewhere as else. So what we decided to carry on and 501 00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:49.760 do the hike. I was designated to carry the food first, and we're 502 00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:52.760 going to stash all our gear, which we did, and we stashed all 503 00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:58.559 our gear, and I'm carrying the food and we're hiking up to this remote 504 00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:01.159 cabin up in the middle of no All of a sudden, I'm getting picked 505 00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:06.480 off with pebbles. I'm getting these pebbles thrown at me and it's getting really 506 00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:09.480 irritating, like they're bouncing off my pack, sack, off my head, 507 00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:15.239 off my shoulders. And so finally there was a counselor behind me. I 508 00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:19.679 turned around to say, could you tell the whoever's throwing the rocks to stop? 509 00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.199 And she seemed like it hit me in the chest hit the tree and 510 00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:28.679 then hit her and then she yelled out, whoever's throwing the rocks stopped throwing 511 00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:32.960 the rocks, and they stopped. So we carried on and we started carrying 512 00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:37.440 on, and then it was these little miniature pine cones. All of a 513 00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:43.360 sudden, I'm getting picked off with these little tiny pine cones, lots of 514 00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:46.159 them too, and some of them are sticking in my hair and stuff like 515 00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:50.119 that, and I started complaining about it. One of the counselors. The 516 00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:52.960 counselor behind me said, oh, they're just falling from the canopy. And 517 00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:57.960 I went to know they're not. They're coming at me horizontally, not vertically, 518 00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:00.880 and they're sticking eye. Decide to leave them in my hair, and 519 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:04.239 then she said, okay, we're going to relieve you of the food, 520 00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:07.199 and you and me and the First Nations guy were given permission to run ahead, 521 00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:12.400 but just stop when we got to the snowlide. And so we started 522 00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:16.599 jogging and we're jogging and I could see things out of the corner of my 523 00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:20.920 eye running through the bush and they just did not look right and that, 524 00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:24.199 but I just rowed them off again. And we came to this little corner, 525 00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:28.639 and you couldn't really see that. It was two great, big, 526 00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:32.199 huge boulders where a river had been or a stream, i should say. 527 00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:37.760 And we were out of the canopy now and it was all these little probably 528 00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:44.960 two inch breathes. There's something that stood about six feet tall, probably seven 529 00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:47.000 feet tall, and it was like thick. You couldn't see two inches in 530 00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:52.280 there, but you can see about maybe twelve inches into this, and it 531 00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:54.199 was just a mess. And then there was these two rocks, and me 532 00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:59.400 and the First Nations guy both sat on a rock and prepared to roll ourselves 533 00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:01.199 a cigarette. Well, we're sitting there, and then all of a sudden, 534 00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:05.960 off my forehead one of those miniature pine cones hits me right in the 535 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:09.039 forehead, and then we both heard a woman giggle, I'm going and left 536 00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:14.079 the hell was that? And then off to the distance, maybe a minute 537 00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:17.960 later, we could hear voices that sounded like they were Swedish or some foreign 538 00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:23.239 country or something like that and talking. So we decided to go back and 539 00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:28.480 meet up with everybody and ask if they see the Swedish people. So we 540 00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:32.400 ran back and we got to the cup to our counselors, and I asked, 541 00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:36.840 did you see the Swedish people? Were the Swedish people that went by 542 00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:39.719 at that point, the female it was a female counselor that said, Ryan, 543 00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:45.199 there's nobody within fifty miles of us, which I could really believe because 544 00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:50.480 there was nothing there. It's a carmana valley. They were hiking up the 545 00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:53.199 side of this mountain and there was nothing within fifteen mile radius of us. 546 00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:58.079 There was no boats out of the water anything like that when we pulled up. 547 00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:01.159 So I said, did you see the Swedish people or something like that, 548 00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:06.880 and she just lost it. Nobody within fifty miles. And so we 549 00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:12.519 carried on and we got up to our destination and we had lunch, and 550 00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:15.760 we sed a bunch of whiskey jacks that were eating right out of our hand. 551 00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:19.679 And I still had these pine cones in my hair and they were starting 552 00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.559 to get irritating. So I pulled them out, and I was determined to 553 00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:24.480 keep them, but I didn't want to take my pack black off to put 554 00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:29.079 them someplace safe, so I just slid them in my front pocket. They 555 00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:32.360 ended up getting crushed or else I would probably still have those today. And 556 00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:37.280 at this lunch we decided that we weren't going to stay that we were going 557 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.960 to go back, and things that happened along the way back just reinforce that 558 00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:45.079 we get the hell out of there. We hiked back down to where we 559 00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:47.320 stashed the equipment. None of it was where it was supposed to be, 560 00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:52.639 not even near where they're supposed to be. And me and the First Nations 561 00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:58.519 guy had hidden our backpacks side by side in this little gully, in this 562 00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:01.760 bush, and you couldn't either them or anything like that. We came back, 563 00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:07.199 the gears all over the place. My knapsack and the First Nations guide 564 00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:10.079 knapsack were up against a tree, one on top of the other, like 565 00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:14.280 the top of one knapsack at the bottom of the other. They were standing 566 00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.119 up against a tree. And I had a trail mix which we were sped 567 00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:22.159 to the whiskey Jackson had a great big bag of it, and I had 568 00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:25.920 put some I put probably two handfuls in a bag and put a twist tie 569 00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:29.679 on it and put it in the front pocket. But the bag was hanging 570 00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:32.559 out when I stashed we got our knapsacks, I pulled that bag out. 571 00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:37.440 It was completely empty. There was no holes in the bag, and the 572 00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:40.599 twist tie had been put back on, which I thought was really strange, 573 00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:45.880 and all our gears messed up, and so everybody's going, what did this? 574 00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:47.199 What do you think did this? And one of the councilors went bare 575 00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:52.840 and I went, no, big foot, come on right. So we 576 00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:55.119 decided, okay, let's get down to We'll get down to the beach and 577 00:39:55.159 --> 00:40:00.159 we'll have a meal and then we'll just go home and stay for more sasquatch 578 00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:07.119 out to sea Wall right back after these messages. So we're heading back down 579 00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:12.280 to the beach. A couple guys ran ahead. We were probably getting really 580 00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:15.639 close to the beach, and they ran ahead to go get the canoes ready 581 00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:19.239 or something, and all of a sudden they come running back and they're both 582 00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:22.320 pale white, and they're going up, you gotta see this, you gotta 583 00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:24.000 see this, you gotta see this, you gotta see this. And we 584 00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:28.519 go all go running down to the beach. And I get to the beach 585 00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:30.320 and I'm looking out and I don't see anything, and I'm like what. 586 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:35.760 They go turn around and look up in the trees, and I turned around 587 00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:38.639 and looked up in the trees and there's two of our canoes jammed into the 588 00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:45.159 tree, one about probably twenty feet twenty five feet up and the other one 589 00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:49.760 probably about ten feet jammed into the tree. And then one canoe is off 590 00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:52.239 to it. When I'm facing the trees, one canoe was off to the 591 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:57.199 left on the little ridge that was there sideways, but there was a path 592 00:40:57.239 --> 00:41:00.280 behind you. I didn't know that until I went to check. Butay, 593 00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:01.840 So we gather all and get on the beach. We look up and we 594 00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:06.840 go. I'm waiting for people to come out and start saying, Aha, 595 00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:09.480 the joke's on you here. There's a party or something like that I was 596 00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:13.400 expecting, and then I was like Then one of the guys went to look 597 00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:15.760 for the oars and he could not but they weren't there. They weren't where 598 00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:20.679 there where he stashed them. And that's when I got really scared. That 599 00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:23.320 was the first time, and I think rather than the night what I didn't 600 00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:28.039 remember the night before, but that was the first time I actually really got 601 00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:32.360 scared knowing what was going on. We pulled the canoes out of the trees. 602 00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:37.159 We eventually did find the oars, and I just have this urge to 603 00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:40.079 make a knock. I don't know why, but I am. One of 604 00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:44.760 the counselors caught me and he said, okay, everybody, get in your 605 00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:49.000 canoes, row a boat maybe ten yards out, fifteen yards out, and 606 00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:52.480 form a semicircle towards the beach. And we did. And then he says, 607 00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:58.159 okay, now let's all thank the forest we're not devouring us. And 608 00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:01.199 we're all going thank you, thank you. Were banging our paddles and everything 609 00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:05.119 like that and thank you, thank you, thank you, and me not 610 00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:08.079 remembering what went on the night before, and then calling one of the guys 611 00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:10.559 that was with us yelled up, thank you for not eating us. And 612 00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:15.039 we all burst out in the laughter and stuff like that. And the whole 613 00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:20.480 ride back to the camp, nobody said a word, but I went over 614 00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.679 and over in my mind everything that happened, except I did not remember what 615 00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:29.079 happened that night. It wasn't until we got back to camp. It was 616 00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:31.079 late and late at night. We had gone out behind a wood. She 617 00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:36.199 had to have a smoke, and I heard the dog barking, and the 618 00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:38.880 dog had barked while I was with the female, and I was almost like 619 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:43.039 she got worried of was like it was coming out of whatever they fed me 620 00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:47.440 or something like that. But the dog gave me the flashback of a little 621 00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:52.039 bit of what happened, and I couldn't tell anybody. There was no way 622 00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:57.760 I could tell anybody there what happened to me in that tent. And then 623 00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:00.559 I remember doing my laundry and that T shirt. I pulled it onto the 624 00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:05.239 bag and it's stunk, and I washed it three times and I could not 625 00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:07.960 get the smell out of it. But I wanted to keep that T shirt 626 00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:12.480 because I was really sentimental. And then after the third time I pulled it 627 00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:15.760 out, I went, well, I guess this is just part of the 628 00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:19.559 of knowing what I know now, and that nobody ever has to know this. 629 00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.360 And I remember folding the T shirt up and then putting it in the 630 00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:25.119 garbage. I left a lot of stuff out. There's so much that went 631 00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:30.280 on. I know I'm leaving a lot out. A lot of this I 632 00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:36.119 didn't remember until when COVID hit. My mom was in the going through chemo 633 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.639 and COVID had hit. We gone through shut down, and the guy upstairs 634 00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:45.920 from me in the end my apartment here had a stroke and he refused to 635 00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:51.000 go to the hospital, and he was up there for three months my places. 636 00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:54.079 I live in a drum upstairs as hardwood floors, and he had to 637 00:43:54.199 --> 00:44:00.159 drag He was dragging his chair across the hardwood floor three or four or five 638 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:04.800 o'clock in the morning every night. So I was not getting sleep. I 639 00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:08.719 was giving me PTSD. I was having total PSD thing. I was trying 640 00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:14.519 to contact another big Foot podcast, like I wrote out on my phone that 641 00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:20.000 encounter probably three times. But before that, I was trying to send them. 642 00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:22.400 I had an encounter worth the wrolverine and it sounded like one of the 643 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:27.199 encounters that somebody had with a big foot. But we had an encounter in 644 00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:30.320 the log ENCOUMP with wolverine where it attacked our Jimmy and I kept writing this 645 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:35.440 out and sending it and I'm not knowing, like I never sent an email 646 00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:39.119 before or anything like that. I'm not technically savvy. I don't have cable, 647 00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:43.239 han't had it since it was digital. I don't have internet. This 648 00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:45.880 is the only thing I got as wife by and I've learned to use that 649 00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:47.920 a bit. Let me ask you a couple of questions, because there's a 650 00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:52.079 lot to unpack there. There's people going to be listening to this go on. 651 00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:57.920 Holy shit. Yeah, let me try to address some of the holy 652 00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:01.079 shit moments that we've had here. Let's look back to the initial sighting, 653 00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:05.760 when you first saw these things and you saw the one that was I believe 654 00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:08.159 you said it was guard that was nine to thirteen feet tall. Let's do 655 00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:14.480 some as best you can. Give us some descriptions, physical descriptions of what 656 00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:17.079 you saw. Let's start with him that's huge. Nine to thirteen feet is 657 00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:21.199 huge, and you said, this guy that looked like Arnold towards Enegger. 658 00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:24.800 Give us a description of the face, the bodies, the hair, what 659 00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:28.679 were you looking at? And give us a sort of paint the picture so 660 00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:31.880 we can see in our minds what you experienced that night. Okay, Yeah, 661 00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:36.119 he stepped out. He stepped out, and like I said, there 662 00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:38.519 was a hole in the canopy and it was enough that I could see his 663 00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:44.159 full body from the distance. He looked, like I said, on Schwarzenegger 664 00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:47.599 at times ten you couldn't really see the features of his face that much, 665 00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:52.719 but I could make out his body. He was covered in a reddish brown 666 00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:58.039 hair, and like I said, he dislocated it almost like he caved in 667 00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:01.679 on himself to get into a squatting position and started doing the spider walk. 668 00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:06.360 Now, I had probably three four years ago. I was with a girlfriend 669 00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:09.639 under a bridge and this bat. We were probably six feet up on this 670 00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:15.519 cement concreet and they were like steps, and this bat was crawling along the 671 00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:17.760 bottom. When I had my light on it, I'm watching it on my 672 00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:22.239 cool and then the spider came running out, ran right into its nose, 673 00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:25.280 and it was the creepiest thing I've ever seen in my life. But the 674 00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:30.639 way the bat walked from up above, I've seen it walking on it like 675 00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:34.079 it was crawling on the cement. The way it walked it was the way 676 00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:37.480 this way gar walk, the way the legs moved. But I also see 677 00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:42.360 why people would say it looks like a spider, because they tuck their neck 678 00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:45.760 in and their bottoms stick out, and they really looked like a four leged 679 00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:50.960 spider coming at you. And it just smoothed and fluid. It was crawling 680 00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:55.280 towards me and my tent, and we met at the tent when I came 681 00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:58.519 face to face with it, Like I said, I didn't want to look 682 00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:00.320 at it at first. I only looked at it when I reached down to 683 00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:06.320 grabbed the zipper, and it looked its face was gun metal gray. Its 684 00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:09.480 neck was stucked in, but it did eventually come out. We have pointy 685 00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:15.079 ears, black lips. I can't remember the color of the eyes. It 686 00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:17.639 had big teeth. I remember that. And then, like I said, 687 00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:22.679 my initial thought when I see that's not what a big foot supposed to look 688 00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:24.679 like. The other ones looked like them, but this one did not look 689 00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:28.800 He had no hair on his head. He was tolely bald. There is 690 00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:34.320 a picture by bors Belagio. I believe it's he's like a prepresentor he does 691 00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:37.280 fantasy pictures. There's a kna and picture he did of it's all in red. 692 00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:42.400 It's got a demon standing in fire. The face of that demon, 693 00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:46.800 amongst the horns is supposest thing that I've seen that looks like guard was moved 694 00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:52.159 from him to the females that were in your cand Was it the same thing? 695 00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:55.800 Were they the quintessential what we picture when we think like the Patty bigfoots. 696 00:47:55.800 --> 00:48:00.000 Can you give us a description of what they look like? Yeah? 697 00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:02.400 But the thing is, when you're up close to them, they do not 698 00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:07.559 look like apes at all. They look very human and they are they act 699 00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:12.079 human too extremely. I think they're more you bald than being able to live 700 00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:15.519 out. There was no fire and stuff in with what happened with my hair. 701 00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:19.960 It leads me to believe like they were all really interested in my hair. 702 00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:22.639 There's a part of the Bible that I didn't find out about until after 703 00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:25.360 all this had happened, that they say, don't go into the woods of 704 00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:30.800 long Air, you'll attract the nephelum. I believe that's what Gar was. 705 00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:34.199 I don't believe all of them are. I think they interbred with humans as 706 00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:37.840 well, because they're the only one that didn't look human ish was Gar. 707 00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:42.719 His face did look human, but deemon very scary. Oh and the females 708 00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.119 I did ask Kara, she did say their names. Akara. I asked 709 00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:50.800 her because she did a pull her hair up, and they do that. 710 00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:54.880 The reason they do that is one to distinguish their tribe from others. And 711 00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:59.400 also for Kamouth was because she said, if you look at the tops of 712 00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:01.960 trees, was their hair up like that? They blend in a lot easier. 713 00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:06.000 And their hair wasn't that way, they wouldn't blend in as well. 714 00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:08.440 Was the trees who talks in the trees and stuff like that. So they 715 00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:12.239 do that for those two reasons. That's what she told me. Anyways, 716 00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:15.679 as far as the other people in the camp, I know, you guys 717 00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:17.440 were supposed to be out there for four or five days, and you only 718 00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:22.280 lasted for the one night. The morning that you woke up, you could 719 00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:24.599 tell something that was going on. Did you ever have a conversation with folks? 720 00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:30.440 Did anybody else see these things? Did they just hear things? After 721 00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:36.039 that trip back? Nobody mentioned this whatsoever. Absolutely not say oh, except 722 00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:39.119 when we got back to count that night. Our counselor Teresa, who I 723 00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:43.159 wish I could get old of. I haven't seen any of these poplute years 724 00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:45.440 except for one person that lives here. But she took pictures of the nest 725 00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:49.400 I slept in. She's got pictures of it. She did send me that 726 00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:52.639 picture of or she did give me that picture of everybody that was there on 727 00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:58.159 the encounter that I believe was taken at the end of our encounter when we 728 00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:00.920 were going back. And does she have taking picts to the nest Since you're 729 00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:05.360 supposed to give me fictions of that, I never did get them. I'm 730 00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:07.519 calling it a nest. I don't know if it was a nest or some 731 00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:12.280 kind of poor hoole or I have no idea what it was, but it 732 00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:15.000 was. It looked like out of a horror movie. Really did. Was 733 00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:16.519 the way the tree was growing on top of the rock, and it was 734 00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:20.559 the way that it was shaped. It looked like a doorway. And then 735 00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:23.360 this this circular roots going in and out of the ground like a snake, 736 00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:30.000 made a perfect circle. Another thing is it rained during the night and some 737 00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:34.519 parts of the morning, and my tent and the other tent that was in 738 00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:38.519 the other one absolutely perfectly dry, not a drop of rain on them, 739 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:44.559 and every everybody else got soaked. You had this experience, yeah, obviously 740 00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:49.480 nobody's talking about it. Did you eventually get to a point where you were 741 00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.599 telling your story other than now? Obviously? Did you tell your story to 742 00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:57.320 anybody else before now? If so, what was the reaction of the people 743 00:50:57.320 --> 00:51:00.960 that you shared your experience with. I just buried it the encounter after I 744 00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:05.639 fold it up, that I go nobody ever has to know this because I 745 00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:10.199 never thought and we like the spider walk and all this crazy stuff going on, 746 00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:15.639 I never thought anybody would ever believe me ever, so I just buried 747 00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:17.960 it. I buried it so deep that I'd forgotten about it. What got 748 00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:21.679 me to the point where i'd started talking about it. I'd like, over 749 00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:23.960 the years, I did remember what happened, and i'd bring it up. 750 00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:28.320 Maybe if somebody was talking about Bigfoot, i'd talk. I'd tell them about 751 00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:32.079 the tree knock and the canoes and the tree. But I never mentioned anything 752 00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:37.360 ever about what happened that night, so I only remembered parts of it. 753 00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:39.719 I buried it. And it was to the point where there was this girl 754 00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:44.159 I was working in a warehouse. She's the one that got me to find 755 00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:47.119 out about podcasts about bigfoot podcasts, and she listens to them quite often, 756 00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:51.599 and so I downloaded a few and I was listening to them, and I 757 00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:53.199 knew she was in the Bigfoot. And I'd picked up this poster and I 758 00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:58.519 don't know why, but it's from a Bigfoot movie from I think the seventies, 759 00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:01.199 and it said big Foot mate with anything, and I thought it was 760 00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:05.320 funny for some reason, and I couldn't figure out why, and so I 761 00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:07.320 gave her that poster, like I knew she was a huge Bigfoot, and 762 00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:12.599 I also gave her a copy of I order Legends of Boggy Creek. I 763 00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:15.079 gave her a copy of that as well, and I still didn't remember at 764 00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:20.559 that point, like I remember parts of it, but it was not until 765 00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:23.039 I was sitting there. I had just written out for the third time, 766 00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:28.679 and I don't know how many times I sent my encounter out to two different 767 00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:31.199 big foot podcasts. All of a sudden it hit me, Oh no, 768 00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:35.079 it was the Wolverine one. I was sending this to Wolverine one. They 769 00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:38.920 don't want to hear about Wolverine about a wolverine encounter. This is a big 770 00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:42.960 Foot podcast. And then and then it hit me. It was like, 771 00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:45.559 oh my god, I had a big foot encounter. I didn't hit me 772 00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:51.320 until that moment. And I went diving for my photo album and I pulled 773 00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:55.159 out the picture and I was going through PTSD. Was my mom passing away? 774 00:52:55.280 --> 00:53:00.280 She passed away two aprils ago. I'm ready to talk about this now. 775 00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:02.480 I had to accept it myself before I could even talk about it. 776 00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:07.800 And like I said, i'd never except for writing out to those two Bigfoot 777 00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:10.360 podcasts, of writing out the whole accounter, which drove me nuts, try 778 00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:15.800 to write out an essay on a phone and try to send an email, 779 00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:17.320 which I didn't even know how to do. And I probably sent an email 780 00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:22.480 to them about the wolverine about five times, and I probably sent the Bigfoot 781 00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:24.599 one about three or four times. But I kept on getting these messages back 782 00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:30.480 message not sent and something like that, probably because they were too long or 783 00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:34.840 something. I don't know, but I just started remembering more and more going 784 00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:38.000 through that PTSD and remembering at that time. I remember because I wanted to 785 00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:42.159 remember. I didn't want to remember before because I didn't think I had to 786 00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:45.360 for any reason. That was my secret. I knew something that nobody else 787 00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:49.960 knew, and I thought that was really cool and I didn't have to talk 788 00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:52.880 about it. But like I said, I just brought up the basics of 789 00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:55.280 it if it ever came out. This is the first time I finally get 790 00:53:55.719 --> 00:54:00.239 the story it's necessarily encounter out. Yeah, it's such a relief to be 791 00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:04.960 able to do this because I realized now my own mortality after seeing what my 792 00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:08.400 mom went through. I realized my own mortality. And I'm listening to all 793 00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:13.679 these big Foot podcasts. It's so frustrating knowing what I know and then listening 794 00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:16.480 to us because sometimes you guys are so dead on stuff and another thing intimes 795 00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:22.519 it's like you couldn't be too so far away from what's going on with these 796 00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:25.719 things or these people. I should say, let's talk about the elephant in 797 00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:28.760 the room, right, because people are going to listen to this, and 798 00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:30.199 I can tell you now, there's gonna be a lot of people that listen 799 00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:37.039 to this and say, Ryan is on batshit crazy. None of that happened, 800 00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:38.760 It's all made up. Let's talk a little bit about that. Let's 801 00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:43.480 address that because and it's a fair question, right, I'm actually putting together 802 00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:47.199 a show and I want to bring on a mental health expert that listen to 803 00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:51.599 the show. She's from the UK, because that's come up several times on 804 00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:54.119 the show over the last couple of months. Some of the interviews that I've 805 00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:58.360 aired, people reach out to me and say, look, dude, you 806 00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:00.960 were in law enforcement for sixteen years. As you were a cop, you 807 00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:05.360 got to know that person was crazy. And my answer to that is no, 808 00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:07.400 I don't know that, right, So there are going to be people 809 00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:12.199 who say that about you and your story. So this is your time to 810 00:55:12.199 --> 00:55:14.920 talk about that, and let's talk a little bit about the memory thing, 811 00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:21.000 because it's not something that you immediately remembered. So a lot of people are 812 00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:23.199 going to point to that and say, what if you dreamed it? What 813 00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:25.760 if it was a dream? Could it have been something? Yeah, I 814 00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:29.320 thought about that. Yeah, people are going to think it was a lucid 815 00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:32.159 dream. I've had lucid dreams and I love them. I love them. 816 00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:37.840 This was not I actually pinched myself three or four times, especially after the 817 00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:39.800 hand came in the tent. I go, this can't be real. This 818 00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:44.440 is like something out of Wall of Disney or something. And I'm pinching myself 819 00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:47.400 and I'm nope, I'm awake, I'm alive, I'm breathing. This is 820 00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:52.519 not a dream. Like I said, I've had some really cool elucid dreams 821 00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:58.519 where I know this was not a dream. That thing that obsessed me is 822 00:55:58.760 --> 00:56:05.079 that nobody knows what went on that camp but me and I wish somebody. 823 00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:07.360 I don't know because I haven't talked to any of the people on our accounter. 824 00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:12.639 I know they know something happened. They all know that. That's my 825 00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:15.880 only proof of anything is and it was a camp that I tried to look 826 00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:19.960 it up before the show. I'm trying to find it because there was a 827 00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:24.880 log book and the counselor yelled out that night they usually right in Okay Carmena 828 00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:29.400 Valley trip, and what happened? She yelled out, I'm putting down big 829 00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:32.920 Foot Bigfoot trip. And so there is a log book with something written in 830 00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:37.800 it from this camp that I went to, Camp Snowden, and I'm trying 831 00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:42.119 to hunt that down. And it's like that camp disappeared from the face of 832 00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:45.320 the era. Let's been thirty over thirty years, so I can understand. 833 00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:49.840 But I was trying to find a phone number to the camp or anything like 834 00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:52.719 that. There's the road still there, It's called Camp Snowden Road, but 835 00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:58.119 I can't find the camp anywhere, or I don't know how to get a 836 00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:00.679 hold of the other people in the picture. I think my best bet is 837 00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:05.480 to get ahold of Teresa. She's got the pictures. But yeah, as 838 00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:08.760 far as that, I do suffer from a PTSD and depression. Other than 839 00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:14.320 that, I think my mental everybody's mental health is pretty messed up over COVID 840 00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:16.760 being locked up and stuff like that. I think it's brought in a lot 841 00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:22.400 of people's issues thought to the surface a lot more. But I'm not crazy. 842 00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:25.519 I'm not crazy. This really happened. I'll give you the last word. 843 00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:29.360 You've now told your story and its entirety, and it's out there in 844 00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:32.400 the zeitgeist for everybody to digest, and people are going to make up their 845 00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:37.159 own minds about what they believe and what they don't. What is it that 846 00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:40.679 you want out of this situation? What do you want to convey to people 847 00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:46.039 about your story and maybe just in general about Sasquatch that brought you on to 848 00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:50.480 tell your story today. What's the final word that you want people to understand 849 00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:54.159 about you, your situation and Sasquatch. I came to the decision that this 850 00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:59.039 is important. I don't want anything out of it. I just want my 851 00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:01.880 story out there, so all the big community has a little bit knowledge of 852 00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:07.159 what these people are. And she even said they were people. When she 853 00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:09.239 said we're from the I had to pronounce it a couple times. There's a 854 00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:13.760 click in there. It was unical people, she said, people, And 855 00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:17.440 I want them to know they're not apes and there they can communicate with us 856 00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:22.679 they have in the past with other people. She said, I just want 857 00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:25.199 people to know what's out there. They're out there, and I believe that 858 00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:30.320 the Nephelum, I know, the bigger ones gar it was. I believe 859 00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:36.119 Nephelum, and they're here, They're back. That's important to get out there 860 00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:43.320 to the community and that there's I would like to go back and see the 861 00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:46.519 nest again and go back to that area. But other than that, I 862 00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:50.800 really don't want anything out of there s except to get the encounter up there. 863 00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:54.440 I don't want notoriety. I'm not looking for attention. When I was 864 00:58:54.559 --> 00:58:59.440 trying to get ahold of big Foot chronicles, I got this all I did, 865 00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:04.119 and I sent them the encounter about three or four types. I got 866 00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:08.159 this fortune cookie that said truth is always the best policy. And ever since 867 00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:12.320 then, that's all I've thought of when I think about this encounter, and 868 00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:15.840 that's all I want to do is get it out there so the big community 869 00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:21.039 knows and people know and hopefully they don't want to shoot these things and cut 870 00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:24.639 their heads off. Yes, they're scary, they're big, scary creatures, 871 00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:30.559 but that's their weapon. They're intimidating, very intimidating. Like I said, 872 00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:34.679 they he padded down my tent for guns. One of the first things out 873 00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:37.239 of her mouth was do you have any guns? But out of contradiction, 874 00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:40.480 I never called her for on it. You can't kill us with guns, 875 00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:44.960 and I never called her on that. I wish I would have at one 876 00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:47.840 point, I really do. I don't understand it, but yeah, I 877 00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:52.239 just want people to know, Dan, please don't kill these at least these 878 00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:57.440 ones up here in the northwest here, don't cut their heads off. There's 879 00:59:57.480 --> 01:00:00.480 got to be other ways of proving these things exist. The only one thing 880 01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:04.679 that I don't really want out of this encounter or anything, is I would 881 01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:07.239 like to go back and see that nest again and go back there. Even 882 01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:10.519 though it scares the hell it of me to go back there, I still 883 01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:15.960 wanted just to prove to myself that the nest is still there. They may 884 01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:19.480 have blogged it by now, I don't know. I have no idea, 885 01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:21.639 and like I said, I don't even know if it was a nest. 886 01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:25.679 I apologize to her when we were talking that I set up my tent here 887 01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:29.920 and right in the middle of your nest, and that she just giggled and 888 01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:34.000 she never said anything. Yeah, but at the contradiction, I never called 889 01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:37.159 her on that you can't kill us with guns. Then why were you pat 890 01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:40.719 me down? Why why did the guns come up like three or four times? 891 01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:45.079 Do you have guns? Do you have guns? It's definitely interesting. 892 01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:47.360 I definitely appreciate you sharing your story. If you ever do get in contact 893 01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:52.039 with this Teresa lady and you do get the picture that she took of where 894 01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:53.079 you said it you're saying, I'd love for you to send it to us, 895 01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:55.079 and I'd love to be able to post it because I know people are 896 01:00:55.079 --> 01:01:00.119 gonna want to see that. Yeah, maybe she'll see this podcastle or something, 897 01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:02.199 hopefully and we can get a hold of it. I can get ahold 898 01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:07.159 of her and anybody that was on this accounter, Dan Don Ray, I 899 01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:12.639 can phone Ray. Ray's not that good because when we did this expedition, 900 01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:15.000 he had a bumped to knee and that's all he was calling. He wasn't 901 01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:19.599 he wasn't aware of stuff that was going on around him. He was so 902 01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:22.760 much pain, that's all. We were focused on his knee. And that's 903 01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:25.599 the only person that I can really get a hold out of. All the 904 01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:30.000 people, and I'm sure from maybe a couple passed on by dollars, So 905 01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:34.440 if they if any of you see this video, please try to get a 906 01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:37.639 hold of me here in Victoria. There you go, Ryan, your story's 907 01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:39.400 out there. Man. I appreciate you coming on. It's been fascinating and 908 01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:44.079 I appreciate you coming on and sharing your experience. Thank you so much for 909 01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:46.840 letting me get this out. I really appreciate it. I wanted people to 910 01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:52.320 know that these are people, at least the smaller ones are. They're people, 911 01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:57.199 They talk, they have emotions. Yeah, they're just they're weapons, 912 01:01:57.280 --> 01:02:01.039 intimidation and scariness and ours and guns. From what she said, ninety percent 913 01:02:01.039 --> 01:02:06.159 of their encounters with humans, they're always getting shot at. That might have 914 01:02:06.199 --> 01:02:07.880 something to do with why they. I don't know the way we hunt. 915 01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:14.360 They don't respect the way we hunt with guns. They say, you don't 916 01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:22.679 gotta go home, but you can't stay here. I don't want to be 917 01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:59.320 world time, job, time, everything joy for me to stay right, 918 01:03:00.559 --> 01:04:01.320 to call it right away, don't back down, R come down, James 919 01:04:02.239 --> 01:04:15.440 MS. James has used James