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Hello, and welcome to Backups and
Nerds, the Baseball Podcast with a British

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tist. Are we host once again
Russ, Lisa and I am joined again

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by Gav to discuss the World Baseball
Classic. But this time we can talk

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about a victory gave. GB beat
Columbia seven five in the World Baseball Classic.

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We we're both lucky enough to witness
this history in person. It hasn't

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yet sunk in for me, It
hasn't yet sunk in for Gav. We

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are, what five six hours after
it happened, and it still doesn't feel

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like it's happened. I don't for
me. For you, if you've got

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any way of actually putting it into
words, gave but I still can't quite.

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I don't know. Like I said
to you, just now, my

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brain just feels frazzled because I don't
know how many hours ago it was.

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Let's say twelve hours ago. We
recorded a pod and we were both pretty

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down after the Canada result and we
were looking in head. I think it

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should be noted that I did predict
a GB win over Columbia. Yeah,

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and now we're in this situation where
they've actually beaten a proper team in the

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World Baseball Classic. They deserve to
be there. It is it's almost indescribable.

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And for it to be Columbia,
who well, before the game,

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the other journalists were saying, I
think Columbia are the best team in this

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pool. So for GB to come
away with a victory to say, it's

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yeah, absolutely incredible. Yeah,
how are you feeling. I'm still just

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riding, like riding this high.
It was. It was We're obviously fortunate

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to be here to kind of like
I watched this moment happened, the moment

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of history happen. Um. It
was one of those games where GB went

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behind. It felt, in some
regards, fairly similar to that game against

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Spain. They went one rundown,
they went three runs down, but I

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never felt like they weren't out of
They were never thought they were out of

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the game because in the second ending
they left a runner on the base.

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In the third inning, they left
like two runners on the base. So

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when we got that moment where we
got one one back, we got the

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two runs back to type the game, I felt the game was going GB's

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way and it just felt, okay, this is going great. Visa pitched

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well, Spreca came in and he
pitched fantastically. Then suddenly we're in the

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lead, and yeah, those two
guys so they deserve mentioned, don't know.

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So we've got Scottish born Visa,
so that's fantastic. We've got a

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British born player taking the ball in
the game that we win. And then

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we've got Spreaker who brought in for
his debut and the bases are loaded and

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he ends up picking up the win. I know that we all think that

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pitcher wins a useless step, but
still he's got that W by his name

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forevermore now so good on the young
lad. Yeah, and he basically he

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came in in that basis dated situation
and he gave up a hitch straight up

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the middle and Columbia paid two to
go three nil up, and you were

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like, all right, he got
the album. You're like, okay,

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how is this going to go?
GB immediately got the three back um,

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capitalizing on I can't be a mistake
and getting actually kind of like getting things

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going from their hitting point of view. It was just nominal actually kind of

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to see that. And then when
Spreaker had the ball and it was like

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zero zero or three or even when
it was a tired game. He then

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threw two innings without giving up a
hit. I don't think he even walked

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to anybody. It was he was
fantastic, Yeah, in those two innings.

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Yeah, And so when he came
in and after like the first couple

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of pitches, he had GP with
three three down. By the time that

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he was replaced at the top of
the six, Jane and Round had hit

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the double in the bottom of the
fifth to put GP five three up.

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And not that you never believe it
was just starting to think in that like,

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oh no, this is like not
just like oh I believe we could

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do this. This is starting to
become a real possibility. And you're just

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I'm sat there in the press box
trying to behave in inverted commas like there's

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there's probably some intrinsic rules, but
we apologize to cut a glasser afterwards,

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and he said, now, guys, it's fine, this is beautiful.

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So but there was me, there
was Gav there was Ren Contral with us.

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He was doing some social media stuff
for GBS out side by side,

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kind of just slowly getting more and
more excited for every single out. Yeah,

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there was this moment where the defense
just seemingly flipped on a dime from

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maybe being a concern to being what
GB was showing them what they could actually

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do. Donald Sweeney made a great
play at chalk, kind of like picking

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the ball up onto his side,
spinning around and throwing its first. And

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then the next hit went to Chafe's
Young and he picked something up like on

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a run, made like a great
great like sliding play to the foul line

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to kind of get the to get
that out for the inning, and you

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were just like, oh, yeah, this is what GEB can actually do.

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Like they Yes, we've seen some
defense mistakes where we know some of

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the infielder isn't playing in like their
natural positions or the positions that they've played

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the most in, but these guys
are professional baseball players. They are capable

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of stunning baseball. And it just
felt this whole thing was going to be

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different. And then Shavit's Young maid
to another great play in right field where

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he got it what would be like
a routine like flyball into into into right

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field, which the runner would normally
go from second to third, but he

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picked it up. He timed his
positioning absolutely perfectly. He like positioned himself

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like ten fifteen feet behind where the
ball was going to land, and came

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into the ball as he was catching
it and launched a cannon. I saw

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something from the sort of tweet was
saying, there's something like it was like

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ninety five miles an hour from stackcast
that he basically just threw through that pitch

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or through the ball and it stopped
the runner advancing, and just everything seemed

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to be going GB's way. Yeah, he really really has played well in

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the outfield, and yeah, he
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and there was just no chance.
He was just so strong. I have

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to say I didn't share your confidence
of like a transition of the in my

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opinion of the infield. I I
just had to hold my breath every time

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the ball was hit in the infield. Oh my word. Yeah, yes,

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a few of them came off,
but a few didn't. And yeah,

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it just makes a very exciting baseball
when you just don't know if you're

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going to get those routine plays.
Just going back to Joan Rudd for a

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moment, you know. So he
delivered the double, which scored two to

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put US five three up. Drew
said afterwards that Rudds had come up to

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him even the dugout before that and
said, coach, you do know that

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I can't hit left its, don't
you? In an attempt not to get

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pulled, because you know, he
thought DeShawn or someone would come in instead

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of him, and yet Drew stayed
with him and he delivered that fantastic double

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down the line. Maybe that was
a shot of the game in my opinion,

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but I know how he gets you
the applaudence for the home run,

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but driving it down the third baseline
absolutely fantastic. Yeah, it was a

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phenomenal hit. I think game run
once again kind of like showed I think

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a massive, massive ability in this
game. Continuing to prove himself throughout the

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tournament. I think we get to
that, we kind of get through the

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game's going. It's now like seven
five or seven three, even we get

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into that eighth and Fananda just doesn't
quite have enough to kind of get those

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first few outs and so, yeah, but he's been given quite a big

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margin because of how is Homer,
hasn't he because yeah, it was five

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three and then Harry's made it or
Harry made it six to three, and

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then Nick scored his third of the
day. Nick Ward scored his third of

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the day, having walked originally.
So, yeah, there were so many

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many contributions from all of the hitters
and then yeah, suddenly were seven,

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three up, and yeah, Fernanda
he was making it interesting. Yeah,

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and this is just watching British baseball. It can ever feel like you're just

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you're you're going to win the game
when you're in a we're in a dominant

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position. Especially after watching yesterday,
I think you can you know what the

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possible outcomes are of if suddenly one
and then two and three three people lose

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it. But we saw a Iman
Jebaut, one of your bread together come

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in and sensational Cincinnati reads. Yeah, within six pitches, get three outs

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and take us onto the take us
onto the bottom of the bottom of the

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eighth, and then to the top
of the ninth. And it didn't make

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it a very ninth a very good
home run and another era, but a

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great pick, great pick to get
the second out in that in that last

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innings before Gibe got the final strikeout. And yes, so the way I

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remember it is that in the start
of the ninth we only needed three more

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outs and we immediately gave up that
home run, and then I think there

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was a fly fly out which chapis
young court, so that's it. We've

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got one out and then Juga faroh
he singled, So then they've got and

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they've got runners on on first and
third, and then there's a wild pitch,

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so our farre has moved over to
second, and yeah, then the

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bulls hit too. I think it's
to Murray or Barry as some people kill

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him. And he's just thrown it
a bit too wide of Nick on first,

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and Nick has just scooped that up
and stayed on the bag, and

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that is the greatest player I've ever
seen. Yeah, it's a back hand

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pick off the bounce off the hot
like just to the wrong kite for a

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first baseman. And given everything that
we know that he's not a traditional first

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baseman, order hasn't has much of
his professional career at first base. He's

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been tested a lot with some of
the throws that he's done and he hasn't

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quite been able to get it.
But when the moment mad at the post,

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he got that and he got it
clean, and you were like,

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okay, Columbia challenged it, didn't
they And it was ruled okay, but

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then we only needed one more out, one more out. I can't remember

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what, I can't remember what happened. Then it was a strikeout fantastic Angel

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Boone struck out. I can't remember
now some Columbia and that I do apologize,

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like I do believe it was the
a m I have even been the

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catcher who wasn't the ass, which
amused me halfway through the game that I

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actually noticed that neither of Horror or
the Ass was catching, And I was

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like, you have two quite good
catchers and neither of them are actually catching.

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But yeah, and then suddenly all
of that fear, all of that

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joy, all of that excitement kind
of dissipated for a second, and then

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there was just elation. There was
just me and friend next to each other

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going a fist bump. Gav had
basically put his head down onto his laptop,

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Like, I don't know what was
going through your head at that time,

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but you look like you were just
so emotionally drained that it was just

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was quite an emotional moment. Yeah, and you cut up with a few

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guys afterwards, didn't you. Yeah. I managed to speak with Drew Tyler

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Wiser and Shaba's younger afterwards, will
put the minute or so interviews We had

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all of those on the back of
this, so you can listen to that

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as well. But it was just
and obviously I spoke with Graham and I

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spoke with like Liam Carroll, all
these people that we've known over a time,

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that we've built relationships with, and
got to see that through. Just

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to kind of see the look on
the faces of all of those GB players

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as they were walking out of their
their dugout area, going to kind of

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see where their friends and family are
because there's a special section for them after

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the game, and just smiles on
everybody's faces. And I don't know that

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the moment that maybe topped it off
for most was Anthony Seymour just walking through

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with the food that they've got.
Everybody gets seemed to get to a nice

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bit of food that they could take
anyway. He's got like three trays of

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the food when everybody has one.
He's singing a song. I can't remember

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what it was, and he's singing
a song like as loud as he can

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as he's walking through this corridor,
like just having an absolute blast. And

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so it was fantastic because everyone's looking
at him. This guy just strutting along,

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singing out loud, and then he
just points at someone and says hey

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man and carries on. And that's
what I was saying to render, That's

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what we need to somehow get that
sort of charisma, that sort of personality

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needs to be shown to the British
public, because I would fall in love

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with him as much as you have. Yeah, we've been privileged. We've

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not got to know them through pods
and through conversations, We've got to know

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them even better on the ground during
during being here for this tournament. It's

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just it's just been an unbelievable experience. And to get the win, it's

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just phenomenal. Obviously, the side
of it that really matters is that why

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that win matters, and it matters
a lot, is that obviously we want

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to be in the next World Baseball
Classic, and to automatically qualify for the

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next Baseball Class Will Baseball Classic,
we need to finish not to bottom of

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the group. And now, given
the end of today, where three teams

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that are on a record of one
on one GB on a record of one

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and two in USA are on a
record of two and one that one win

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might not necessarily be enough to actually
stop them finishing bottom of the group.

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They've still got to go out and
go at Mexico in the game tomorrow to

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really to really push it. GB
will have a bit of knowledge about how

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much that matters or doesn't matter,
because Canada will play Columbia before that game,

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and if we're a British and we
want to get all our eggs in

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the easiest basket, I think we
want Canada to pummel Columbia. Doesn't really

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need to be a bubbling, just
Canada beating Columbia and then USA beating Columbia.

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It is probably the simplest way of
of GB making it not to be

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the bottom of the group. But
they've still got to go out and give

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their all against Mexico. They've shown
that they can hit. They've shown they

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can hit against professional major league pitchers
in all of the games that they've done

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so far, so they've got to
do that. We know that Joseph King

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looks like he's going to start the
game, so obviously like he's not not

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one of like the top starts that
we were talking about going into this tournament.

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So if there's could probably be a
lot of use of the bullpen arms

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to try and get everything that they
can out of that game. But it's

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going to be amazing, Like the
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currently it is a sellout. It's
a sellout. Yeah, I was told

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today by one of the guys from
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figuring that it's not fifty fifty between
Brits and Mexicans, so okay, there

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could be a lot of green tomorrow. So it's going to be forty eight

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thousan five hundred and fifty Mexicans and
four hundred and fifty Brits also, and

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that basically is friends and family and
a few Brits that have made it out.

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Oh, it's going to be an
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and gareful will bring you as much
as we can from the game going forward.

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So I hope you've enjoyed listening to
me and gave try and barely remember

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what happened a few hours ago,
because I'm pretty certain we've got half the

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facts wrong. But it was just
so phenomenal that it happened, and I

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just can't still believe it. So
yeah, listen to us ramble a little

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bit more in another podcast. I
hope everybody had had a great viewing,

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and yeah, let's GB bild up. So I'm here with Drew Spencer just

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after the game. GB beat Columbia
to play their first winning the World Baseball

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Classics. How does that feel?
Dream? I honestly don't know if I

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have the words right now, Like
it's it's it's all just a big bundle

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of emotion. I'm just I'm super
excited for the boys, you know,

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for them to to experience that,
you know, I think especially after yesterday's

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going you know, to bounce back
and get a victory against a team like

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that thing in the tournament, it's
huge. And again I'm just gonna keep

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saying, like it shows what we're
making. Yeah, there were some kind

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of like key moments and kind of
like key kind of like plays in that

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game for me, like Chaves Young
taking that catch out in right field and

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then getting that throw down to stop
the runner going to third. That was

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such kind of like a momentum stopper
and help the time build up, like

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quickly describe what Chavis kind of like
has done for this team, like in

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the games. Well, I mean
it just feels like whenever we've needed something

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big, he's been one of the
guys to deliver, right. You know,

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it's what four stolen, four bases
now, you know, some tremendous

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plays on defense, clutch hitting um
and you know the other thing is that

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people don't always see is in the
dug out. You know, he's the

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first guy to turn around and go, hey, we're not done to spe

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some more of this inning. You
know, let's go out and play catch.

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You know. So he's he's he's
tremendous, cool, She's through all

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the best of the rest of your
games. This is going to be a

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war. So how did that feel? It's amazing, man, I I

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don't know how amazing are you?
Gay baseball? Baseball? You do it

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for them, man, you know, do keep anybody that can't play with

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us right now in the field.
You're doing it for them because you know

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how I'm passionate and they're growing up
baseball over there is Yeah. I just

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want to say, like the for
me, like playing the game, is

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you out there in right field,
taking that ball, getting that throw down

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to third to stop the running from
doing he did it twice kind of like

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there's just momentum builders where I think
the whole of that right field fund base

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was all the you man, like, how does that feel when you get

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those moments and you kind of it
really works. I am my steams you

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could control in this baseball game and
the hitting, but I feel like defensive

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that you could you have a you
have a good chance to control them,

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you know, being in the right
position to help the team win. Um,

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anything that what I could contribute to
my team to win. I'm winning.

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I'm just all about winning. I
just love winning. It doesn't matter

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to be an ugly win on nice
win. I just want to win.

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It doesn't it doesn't It doesn't take
take that much this, you know,

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to quick effort them. You know, you don't have to have talging but

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win. You just got our hearts
cool, just have has Congratulations on on

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the win today, all the best
for tomorrow. Thank you. So we've

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just come off from the field.
Gb have just picked up their first win

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in the World Baseball Classic. Ever
I'm here with Tugby's that starting pitcher.

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Firstly, just how does that feel? It feels amazing? I mean,

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obviously you know, we've had a
rough first two games. Um, I

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thought we've played well overall. You
know, we've we've held our grounds for

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the most part. So today,
you know, for me and my job

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was just sending a tone early.
Um, me and Harry had a great

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game plan going into it, and
I think, you know, for the

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most part, we executed that and
you know, defense in the in the

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bass came around were huge for us. Yeah, you were. You were

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an absolute solid start. A couple
of a couple of calls didn't maybe like

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go your way and let you kind
of like this, Yeah it is baseball,

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but yeah, it's absolutely like fantastic
start. Obviously, kind of given

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what had happened in the previous game, you kind of settled like the not

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only maybe like feels for all the
British fans, but kind of like for

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for all the players. Um,
when you kind of then have to spend

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the rest of the game like on
the bench, watching what's going on,

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like how tu like the highs in
the late and the lows that kind of

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come with that, and watching everything
happened from then onwards. Yeah, I

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mean, obviously you've been been a
part of a lot of baseball and that's

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all kind of part of it.
Um. You know, as far as

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the preparation that goes into it,
I mean easier the moments that we you

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know, we prepare ourselves for the
rest of it, you know, our

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whole life. You know, we're
leading up to this moment. So it

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was huge that we were paper from
away with the win and you know,

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it's this amazing feeling. And how
does it feel to like represent like Great

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Britain? Obviously kind of it's you. You've got your Scottish heritage and something

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that you kind of like have maybe
been close to doing a couple of times

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in the past but things haven't quite
worked out. How does it feel to

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kind of finally kind of get that
debut? It was amazing. You know,

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I was supposed to go to Germany
to be with the qualifiers. Um,

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that's it supposed to but you know
they asked me too, and you

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know I was actually over in Taiwan
plane in that league got that fun um.

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So, I mean, it was
just an absolute blast to be a

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part of this moment. Chos for
forever. Oh, She's like, thank

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you so much. I appreciate it. Thank you