You're listening to KFI A six on demand. Mike, Welcome to the Jesus
Christ Show. Hello, how are you? I am well Mike? How
can I help you? Oh? There's two questions. I know Biblically,
to be absent from the body is to be in the presence of the Lord.
Once we passed away, Christians and believers, he accepts us if anything,
through grace that we are accepting to heaven. Two questions going back from
day one on New Year calendars, going back to follow thirteen, fourteen hundred
and all that stuff. Billions and billions and billions of people have passed away
and died. And number one isn't Heaven getting a little bit crowded up there
like a four or five on a Friday night. And then number two reading
a lot of it? Maybe heresay. I don't know, George Nori,
he has special people talking. But I've heard a lot that once you pass
away, we go into a spiritual realm where we go through a learning process
through a period of time. I heard some say that it's up to this
sold spirit if we want to come back into different body and go through this
whole thing again, or we can just stay up in heaven. It says
that most people prefer to come back, And then they said, you do
come back, you don't remember what you did before. You know. Once
around, there's enough this life right now. I'm ready and I'm done.
I don't want to go through the getting FOI remember your view on both of
those places. Okay, First of all, there's room for ten more people
in heaven. I'm just kidding. That would be horrible. No, there's
plenty of him. Heaven does not have the walls and the restrictions of time
and space the way you think of them. Here, there is no limitation.
God didn't make it, and in say, oh my gosh, I
invited all these people. I didn't think they were all going to make it.
It's not a situation like that. So no worries there. There is
there is no limit to where somebody will be left out that believes. But
isn't it I mean if there are all these people and not if I say,
but souls and spirits going around and have and I know the soul in
spirits like many skill as far as a waiting of course or whatever. But
still isn't it does not It does not take up space. You're applying human
restrictions and attributes of this world to the next, and there is none.
It's a time there's no time continuum. There's no spatial concerns. It is
not the same way in the same sense at all, in any way shape
or for it. So there could be sillion people, it wouldn't matter right
now, and Christ than God would still be in control over all of that.
Yep, wouldn't matter. That's what was going on on earth. Yeah,
it doesn't, It doesn't matter, doesn't There is no limitations there now.
As far as the second question before your justice, seyde person i presage
car, I do have a very brief, brief third question about the healing
practices of evangelists. It's very brief. If I may ask to have to
answer this other question, sure, sure, okay, after being reborn,
not being able to remember, going through a learning potast coming, that's not
Christianity that you You had quoted some verses earlier in Corinthians and in Hebrews.
You loosely paraphrase them about uh in Corinthians about it is to be absent from
the body is to be present with the Lord. But it also says in
Hebrews that you're it's appointed for men to die once and then the judgment.
So there is no there's no place for what is referred to as the sumsorrow,
that cycle of life. There is no place for reincarnation. Reincarnation was
never in scripture. Uh, there's no place for it. It doesn't fit
and uh and and so that doesn't make sense with Christianity. Even though the
George nor I know, he's a little not out there, but he does
have people that he talks, So it's basically, this is it. Once
we're done, that's it. George Nori is a lovely man, a very
smart man, and he does have very interesting guests on Coast to Coast am.
But but his his job and his focus is not the same as the
focus of this show. So so he's looking at things from a broader spectrum
than this. This pro is we're very focused on the Christian Judeo Christian presupposition
and the Christian theology and specifics, so we obviously have a different point and
when it comes to that, So in this particular case, there is nothing
in scripture that allows for that reincarnation and there's no need for it. Now,
there can be those that argue, our Catholic brothers and sisters argue that
there is a purgatory, but there's different but there's different beliefs in that that
has changed throughout the years as well as to what that means and what's taking
place. But as far as mainstream Christianity or Protestantism, they differ. So
mainstream Christianity, do you put Catholicism in Protestant in that same basket they're going
to They're going to differ. So keep that in mind. There is differences
very quickly, so we can make sure that we're fair to everyone else.
You had one more question you wanted to ask, Yes, just very very
quick. Known evangelist Katherine Coleman probably most probably known other a local evangelists with
the healing powers. They went to a Catholic church, growing up on stage
for print everything. I mean, it didn't even touch me yet. I
felt at people, my wife and and other friends. They said he was
presulting anyone near me, and I just supposedly felt under the spirit other places
where I went up, actually felt this presence for you just I mean,
it's like just falling backwards. How what is that manifest and are is really
true of I want to say, I won't to say heals, but the
presence of falling under what they call falling in the spirit. I don't get
that. I mean, I get it, but how's that explained? That?
It depends because and this is not specifically speaking about anyone who refers to
themselves as a faith healer. A lot of that is garbage. A lot
of it ties in to theatrics and whatnot and psychology that takes place during a
group experience like that. That doesn't mean that it can't take place. Of
course, there are gifts of the spirit that do take place, and there
are healings that could take place to this day. But that is God's will,
not the will of an individual or their ability. God will speak through
somebody like a prophet, and God will heal through somebody like a healer.
But it's not done in the theatrical way the way it often is betrayed in
Christianity. Across the board, there are many of those that act as if
they are faith healers, and really it's an amount of theatrics and people get
caught up in something the same way you can watch a movie that you know
is absolutely fake that it is actors that you've seen many times before. You
can start to cry or get angry or be thrilled by the outcome because emotionally
you're having eperience with those other people in the theater while watching something. So
you have to be careful as to what your experience is. Your experience should
always be lining up with scripture and the things of God, and it should
never be to the glory of an individual other than God. You shouldn't have
to pay for such a thing. These types of things should be thought of
before you go and experience on things, because they can be quite emotional and
can catch you up in that kind of overall attitude and excitement, and you
can think that it's spiritual when it's just psychological. Something to think about,
brother, and not be lost in that. Trisha, Welcome to the Jesus
CHRISTO. Hi, Jesus Hi. How can I help you? Well,
my husband and I have been together for twenty five years, since we're eighteen.
We had ten years ago we had creamy twins and they had a lot
of health problems, but you know, we worked through it. And I'm
a real nervous person and through this whole thing with the twins there was a
lot of life and death issues as far as like open heart surgeries and stuff
like that, and things seemed like they were getting better. My kids were
healthy and stuff, but then my husband got diagnosed with cancer, and ever
since then, I have just I don't know. I can't I can't come
to terms with the fact that I feel like everything that I had hoped for
and worked for that it's just not ever going to be the same now,
and I'm always here. I see almost everything now like I'm petrified, even
if my kids get a cold, that they're going to die, And like
Tricia, that that's no way to live your expectations. Expectations really can be
the demon of everything to It's good to have hopes, it's good to have
desires, but if you get to a place where where those overshadow everything else,
Tricia, and your life becomes this drawing or cartoon of what you expect,
you will never appreciate and see what you have in front of you.
And that's a huge concern of mine. Don't get lost in that, Tricia.
I know that you're going through pain. I know that you have problems,
and there are things that you can tackle, but if you start to
try and nerf the world and make everything so it has no sharp edges,
or that there's not ever going to be a problem that you will lose sight
of the preciousness of the life that you have and the people that are in
it don't lose sight of that, not for some hope, some kind of
make believe this is what I thought I was going to have. Enjoy what
you do have, Nancy, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi,
Jesus, I have a question. I am looking for verses about the age
of accountability. There aren't really any if you're looking about something specifically talking about
the age of accountability. It's more theorized by most and some many don't believe
that it exists at all. But religiously people use them or theologically people use
that term, usually to say there's different schools of thought. Some of them
will say, well, a child will automatically go to Heaven if they're below
a certain age or the age of accountability, which really is a sliding scale
to begin with, because there are children at very young ages that understand and
comprehend many things, and then there are others that get older and maybe slightly
slower and don't understand things. There are religious traditions that say that the age
of ability is twelve or thirteen because they reference that my first readings in scripture
come around that time, or certain things like this. So people will make
kind of arbitrary lines saying, well, it has to be this, has
to be that. But as far as scripture specifically saying an age of accountability,
no, But there is talk that people will come to the knowledge of
the difference, the difference between sweet and bitter, and some people say,
well, that may be alluding to the concept of truth versus that which is
false, But no one verse that you're going to come across. That's why
it is a topic that's continually argued to this day. Is there a particular
reason you ask I was just trying to give some hope to somebody who doesn't
believe, who believes that if a three year old dies today, they're going
to go to hell. Well, there's no reason to believe that either.
I mean, there's there and there. The argument kind of goes it does
tie into that, and there's people they go back and forth and they quote
Proverbs twenty eleven that talks about even a child is known by his doings,
whether his work be pure, whether it be right. There are those that
will talk about Matthew Mark and I think this also in Luke eighteen sixteen,
where it says suffer little children and forbid them not to come to me for
such as the kingdom of Heaven. And people look at that and say,
obviously Christ is talking there about the children being in heaven. And this is
an argument that goes back and forth. This is a place where really faith
comes in and you have to trust that when the ugliness of something like a
child dying takes place, that God, God has a way of balancing these
things out. That really accountability and salvation is based on acceptance or rejection,
not ignorance, and that's where the confusion sometimes lies. Ken, Welcome to
the Jesus Christ Show. Hi Jesus. When I was eight years old,
I was at a Christian camp swimming in a lake and I watched the boy
drown right in front of me. Oh. It was a horrible, dramatic
incident that changed my life forever. And now I take it to being an
adult. I'm forty years old now and I decided to have my daughter baptized
about two weeks ago, and I get the directions to the lake, and
my daughter's very excited, and I'm very excited to have her baptized. And
I drive in and it's the same lake that I watched a boy drown when
I was exactly her age, and I kind of relived the whole incident again
and I was devastated. I mean, the odds of this happening. Of
all the places that I could have had my daughter baptized, it was exactly
the same place that I watched this happen. And you know, I didn't
know why this was going on. I had mixed feelings about it. Maybe
I shouldn't do it, Maybe it's cursed. Is this really what God's plan
is is to use this lake? And you know I decided that, you
know, this wasn't about me anymore. This is about my daughter accepting Jesus
Christ in her life. And I explained to her what happened, and we
decided to do it. But I was wondering if there's any significance to this
at all. Well, I'll tell your first. I'm very proud of you
because you pushed through it. The enemy had you at every turn on that
one. He would have loved nothing more than you two turn that car around
and not have your daughter baptized. It would have been a huge victory in
his eyes. And you push through it. There are a lot of things
that are going to take place. You drive on roads every day that people
have lost loved ones on. Every day. You've gone to hospitals where people
have died. You've gone to restaurants where people have been have gotten sick,
or might have choked on something. Death is a part of life. It's
everywhere. But you need to see the significance of the instance in what's taking
place, rather than the fact that there's a history of something. Now,
if that child died because there was something in that water, I wouldn't blame
you, but because of a freak accident or someone dying to not use you
know, there's reason that it's the same place. This particular church or churches
in general in that area area may use this. For you said it was
a Christian camp or and now it's a Christian baptism that there is You know,
it's a body of water in the area. It's normal for it to
be used in different purposes. But what I want you to take from this
is the fact that things aren't evil unto themselves. There isn't an evil thing
in the world. Evil is when morally neutral things have bad relationships. So
for instance, when a child is unattended or doesn't swim well, water can
be evil in the relationship between that person and the water and they can drown.
But in a baptism that's controlled and there are people around to watch and
it's done structurally, it can be a beautiful thing about the awakening of someone's
spirit and the acknowledgment of their faith. So likewise, if someone broke into
your house heaven forbid, with a gun, that's a bad thing. But
if right behind them, law enforcement broke into your house with a gun,
that's a good thing. And so I want you to stop, you know,
not to see this lake as something good or bad. It was depending
on how it was experienced, that was good or bad. But the lake
itself is not evil and it isn't cursed or anything like that Situationally, it's
very sad that you had to witness that at such a young age or at
all, and it's going to be, you know, an indelible mark on
your life forever. But I hope that it will be equally as indelible the
moment and the beauty of watching your daughter being baptized and confirm her place and
her heart for God in front of all those people that too should have power.
Wouldn't you say, Yeah, I just I just believe it. And
it's you know, some good has come of it, because I decided to
be a paramedic after that for obvious reasons. So it did change my life
forever. But it also you know, after her being baptist baptized, I'll
never forget that day in my life. That was a day that just stood
out to me and I felt that, you know, God was talking to
me that day. It just was a really strange thing to go through.
And what was he saying. He was saying, to let this go.
He was saying, don't harbor any guilt. It wasn't my fault. You
know, I was a child I and I didn't rescue him. I I
panicked, But you didn't have the ability to rescue him, right, I
didn't, So it can't be your fault, right, And I and I
it took a long time to realize that it wasn't my fault. And but
you know, just to let it go. I mean just to say goodbye
to him, to pray for him, and I don't know. It was
just a really difficult thing to go through. And being a paramedic, I've
seen people drown and been on the other side of it too. It was
just a really strange day. I want you to take all those the physical
things and seeing someone lose their life obviously very potent. Scripture says do not
fear those that can kill the flesh, but those that can kill the spirit.
And I want you to think about all those people that are drounding spiritually
every single day because no one wants to do anything about it. They're embarrassed
to share their faith or whatever it might be. And the situation you're describing
is that you immediately grew into a person who said, you know what,
I want to know what to do and became a paramedic. What you witnessed
with your daughter was you know, the symbolism of baptism is the death and
the burial and the resurrection as they come up out of the water. And
I think all of that that imagery is very powerful, but what you do
with it is up to you. You know, the same knife you may
use for a tracheotomy, an emergency tracheotomy is the is a knife that could
be used to kill somebody. And to not put value positive or negative on
these things, the water, the knife, the any of these things,
but to see them as proper usage and improper usage and what you've got,
you've got to see both in the same body of water, and you got
to see both sides of the beauty of that water and the power of that
water in the sense of that it could take a life, but to dwell
on it or somehow let it weigh you down when it's obviously been a you
know, a pause or productive in your life, piece of your life.
Because you've taken it and said I'm going to do something good with it.
You have to let you have to let the power of that lake or the
mystery of that lake go away. But you don't have to forget what took
place there. You don't forget what you learned there. You don't have to
forget the life. But you couldn't do anything. And guilt is irrelevant,
It doesn't mean anything. It has no benefit in this particular case. And
I think that you should enjoy the beauty of what your daughter went through and
that that should be a significant part of your life, equally as significant as
the death that you witnessed, because if you really believe what it says in
scripture, it says that the fear is not in the flesh being lost,
but the spirit being lost. And so you were able to sit there and
watch your daughter come into a new life in Christ. And that's a very
powerful and wonderful thing. I'm sorry that you went through that experience, but
it's obvious that it is done something and meant something in a way that has
become very very productive in your life that glorifies God. The other gives the
enemy total Foothold Dale, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hello Jesus Hi
Dale. I'm first time caller I have listened to for quite some time.
Well, welcome, How can I help you? I was married to who
to whom I perceived as my actually my soulmate at a young age. I
was actually twenty and she was she's eighteen. We were blessed with them with
my with a with a daughter and actually and then two to other sons after
that. Married for fourteen years and worked so hard to build a good life
and all my plans for the future, and all all the plans that I
thought God had and sore for me were there. And it was probably,
I mean, the utmost happiest time of my life. And I had you
know, it was fairly successful in the field that I was in at the
time. I actually put my wife, my ex wife never worked because we
wanted her to be with the children as much as possible and daily. I
hate to rush you, but because of time, is there a question?
Yeah, it's been divorced. She she she had she committed an adultery,
had an affair on me for a year and when I found this out,
it broke me more than than I mean. I've never been able to get
over this. And this is four years ago now and it's still like it
was yesterday. Will the pain ever stop? I mean, I have to
watch another man raise my children. Mhm. How does someone well, I
still have yet to know. I do not know how to deal with this.
Sale, Hold on tight. I have some thoughts for you. Just
after this break, we were talking with Dale. Dale. You're still there,
Yes, I am, okay. So you said that this woman you
was your soulmate and you get married young, you have children, she has
an affair and now she's with someone else and they're raising your children. Yeah,
she she she married the man that she was in an affair with and
they actually have a child now together. And I've do you have things that
all I do is I live for I see my children every two weeks.
That's what you know. They that's that's what they said that I mean,
that's all I could do. Dale, Do you drink it? All I
did? I did? But you're cleaning sober now? Excuse me? You're
clean and sober now? Not quite? Not quite? And what is not
quite? Mean? There are times when I wouldn't. I would do anything
to kill the pang. You know that that's not productive and it won't help
you see those children? Absolutely absolutely, And I am a Christian and but
and I know that it's the right thing. Are you? Are you drinking
today at all? No? I'm not. Okay. Good, that's a
good start, so Dale, when it when it comes to relationships, you
get two people. Obviously, you both have a say, and you both
can take the You know, you can either positively move in one direction together
or you can move in two different directions. Chances are if we parsed your
whole relationship. When we looked back, there was a time when you saw
signs of maybe she not being the right one. Then people bring children into
the equation all of that. We don't have time for that. But what
I do want to tell you is that if you live in the bowl of
just staring at that circumstance she's married and she's moved on, you won't be
able to dig yourself out at all. If you get to a place where
you're bettering yourself, you're not you know, getting into the hoots, you're
not drinking, you're being productive, and you're finding ways to I would encourage
you to help others, And there's programs for people that have been cheated on
and things like that that you can go into and talk and find out the
things that people have gone through and how they've pushed themselves through it. Prayer
and church and all these things play a part of all this. Then you
can move forward yourself and find that happiness or a partner in life. But
if you're going to focus on the past, on the program a lot of
times, and I know pain is difficult to get through, but there's a
limit. There's a certain amount of pain that comes from the experience and then
the rest is you putting it on yourself. And I like in the past
to driving and when you drive, you have a rearview mirror, but you
use the rearview mirror only to move forward right, to change lanes, to
make sure that you're driving safely. But you would never drive staring in the
rear view mirror, wouldn't you, Because if you if you just stared at
the rearview mirror, you'd crash right absolutely, And that's what you're doing right
now. You're driving staring in the rearview mirror. So and I don't want
to I want to move forward, I really do. So today you need
you need to start and actually have a process, whether it's setting up time
to go to church and be constructive there. You need to find a charity
or something where you can put your time into helping others, not wallowing in
your own pain. And you need to dedicate yourself to those things and continue
to build up your wants and desires in life and the things that make you
you dale so that you'll be attractive to somebody. But somebody who's wallowing,
who's boozing it up, is not going to be attractive to any woman.
That's going to be good for you. You gotta clean yourself up. Your
daddy and you're a child to God, and you gotta clean yourself up.
And then women will come and you'll build your life and fulfill it by yourself,
and then you'll be ready for another partner. But to sit in the
pain isn't going to help. And that's the best I can tell you.
It's about you applying that now. KFI Am six on demand