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You're listening to KFI A six on
demand. Mike, Welcome to the Jesus

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Christ Show. Hello, how are
you? I am well Mike? How

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can I help you? Oh?
There's two questions. I know Biblically,

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to be absent from the body is
to be in the presence of the Lord.

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Once we passed away, Christians and
believers, he accepts us if anything,

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through grace that we are accepting to
heaven. Two questions going back from

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day one on New Year calendars,
going back to follow thirteen, fourteen hundred

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and all that stuff. Billions and
billions and billions of people have passed away

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and died. And number one isn't
Heaven getting a little bit crowded up there

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like a four or five on a
Friday night. And then number two reading

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a lot of it? Maybe heresay. I don't know, George Nori,

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he has special people talking. But
I've heard a lot that once you pass

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away, we go into a spiritual
realm where we go through a learning process

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through a period of time. I
heard some say that it's up to this

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sold spirit if we want to come
back into different body and go through this

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whole thing again, or we can
just stay up in heaven. It says

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that most people prefer to come back, And then they said, you do

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come back, you don't remember what
you did before. You know. Once

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around, there's enough this life right
now. I'm ready and I'm done.

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I don't want to go through the
getting FOI remember your view on both of

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those places. Okay, First of
all, there's room for ten more people

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in heaven. I'm just kidding.
That would be horrible. No, there's

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plenty of him. Heaven does not
have the walls and the restrictions of time

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and space the way you think of
them. Here, there is no limitation.

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God didn't make it, and in
say, oh my gosh, I

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invited all these people. I didn't
think they were all going to make it.

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It's not a situation like that.
So no worries there. There is

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there is no limit to where somebody
will be left out that believes. But

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isn't it I mean if there are
all these people and not if I say,

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but souls and spirits going around and
have and I know the soul in

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spirits like many skill as far as
a waiting of course or whatever. But

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still isn't it does not It does
not take up space. You're applying human

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restrictions and attributes of this world to
the next, and there is none.

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It's a time there's no time continuum. There's no spatial concerns. It is

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not the same way in the same
sense at all, in any way shape

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or for it. So there could
be sillion people, it wouldn't matter right

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now, and Christ than God would
still be in control over all of that.

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Yep, wouldn't matter. That's what
was going on on earth. Yeah,

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it doesn't, It doesn't matter,
doesn't There is no limitations there now.

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As far as the second question before
your justice, seyde person i presage

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car, I do have a very
brief, brief third question about the healing

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practices of evangelists. It's very brief. If I may ask to have to

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answer this other question, sure,
sure, okay, after being reborn,

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not being able to remember, going
through a learning potast coming, that's not

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Christianity that you You had quoted some
verses earlier in Corinthians and in Hebrews.

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You loosely paraphrase them about uh in
Corinthians about it is to be absent from

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the body is to be present with
the Lord. But it also says in

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Hebrews that you're it's appointed for men
to die once and then the judgment.

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So there is no there's no place
for what is referred to as the sumsorrow,

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that cycle of life. There is
no place for reincarnation. Reincarnation was

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never in scripture. Uh, there's
no place for it. It doesn't fit

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and uh and and so that doesn't
make sense with Christianity. Even though the

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George nor I know, he's a
little not out there, but he does

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have people that he talks, So
it's basically, this is it. Once

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we're done, that's it. George
Nori is a lovely man, a very

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smart man, and he does have
very interesting guests on Coast to Coast am.

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But but his his job and his
focus is not the same as the

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focus of this show. So so
he's looking at things from a broader spectrum

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than this. This pro is we're
very focused on the Christian Judeo Christian presupposition

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and the Christian theology and specifics,
so we obviously have a different point and

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when it comes to that, So
in this particular case, there is nothing

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in scripture that allows for that reincarnation
and there's no need for it. Now,

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there can be those that argue,
our Catholic brothers and sisters argue that

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there is a purgatory, but there's
different but there's different beliefs in that that

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has changed throughout the years as well
as to what that means and what's taking

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place. But as far as mainstream
Christianity or Protestantism, they differ. So

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mainstream Christianity, do you put Catholicism
in Protestant in that same basket they're going

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to They're going to differ. So
keep that in mind. There is differences

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very quickly, so we can make
sure that we're fair to everyone else.

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You had one more question you wanted
to ask, Yes, just very very

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quick. Known evangelist Katherine Coleman probably
most probably known other a local evangelists with

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the healing powers. They went to
a Catholic church, growing up on stage

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for print everything. I mean,
it didn't even touch me yet. I

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felt at people, my wife and
and other friends. They said he was

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presulting anyone near me, and I
just supposedly felt under the spirit other places

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where I went up, actually felt
this presence for you just I mean,

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it's like just falling backwards. How
what is that manifest and are is really

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true of I want to say,
I won't to say heals, but the

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presence of falling under what they call
falling in the spirit. I don't get

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that. I mean, I get
it, but how's that explained? That?

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It depends because and this is not
specifically speaking about anyone who refers to

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themselves as a faith healer. A
lot of that is garbage. A lot

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of it ties in to theatrics and
whatnot and psychology that takes place during a

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group experience like that. That doesn't
mean that it can't take place. Of

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course, there are gifts of the
spirit that do take place, and there

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are healings that could take place to
this day. But that is God's will,

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not the will of an individual or
their ability. God will speak through

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somebody like a prophet, and God
will heal through somebody like a healer.

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But it's not done in the theatrical
way the way it often is betrayed in

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Christianity. Across the board, there
are many of those that act as if

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they are faith healers, and really
it's an amount of theatrics and people get

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caught up in something the same way
you can watch a movie that you know

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is absolutely fake that it is actors
that you've seen many times before. You

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can start to cry or get angry
or be thrilled by the outcome because emotionally

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you're having eperience with those other people
in the theater while watching something. So

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you have to be careful as to
what your experience is. Your experience should

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always be lining up with scripture and
the things of God, and it should

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never be to the glory of an
individual other than God. You shouldn't have

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to pay for such a thing.
These types of things should be thought of

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before you go and experience on things, because they can be quite emotional and

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can catch you up in that kind
of overall attitude and excitement, and you

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can think that it's spiritual when it's
just psychological. Something to think about,

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brother, and not be lost in
that. Trisha, Welcome to the Jesus

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CHRISTO. Hi, Jesus Hi.
How can I help you? Well,

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my husband and I have been together
for twenty five years, since we're eighteen.

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We had ten years ago we had
creamy twins and they had a lot

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of health problems, but you know, we worked through it. And I'm

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a real nervous person and through this
whole thing with the twins there was a

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lot of life and death issues as
far as like open heart surgeries and stuff

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like that, and things seemed like
they were getting better. My kids were

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healthy and stuff, but then my
husband got diagnosed with cancer, and ever

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since then, I have just I
don't know. I can't I can't come

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to terms with the fact that I
feel like everything that I had hoped for

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and worked for that it's just not
ever going to be the same now,

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and I'm always here. I see
almost everything now like I'm petrified, even

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if my kids get a cold,
that they're going to die, And like

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Tricia, that that's no way to
live your expectations. Expectations really can be

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the demon of everything to It's good
to have hopes, it's good to have

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desires, but if you get to
a place where where those overshadow everything else,

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Tricia, and your life becomes this
drawing or cartoon of what you expect,

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you will never appreciate and see what
you have in front of you.

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And that's a huge concern of mine. Don't get lost in that, Tricia.

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I know that you're going through pain. I know that you have problems,

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and there are things that you can
tackle, but if you start to

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try and nerf the world and make
everything so it has no sharp edges,

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or that there's not ever going to
be a problem that you will lose sight

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of the preciousness of the life that
you have and the people that are in

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it don't lose sight of that,
not for some hope, some kind of

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make believe this is what I thought
I was going to have. Enjoy what

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you do have, Nancy, Welcome
to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi,

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Jesus, I have a question.
I am looking for verses about the age

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of accountability. There aren't really any
if you're looking about something specifically talking about

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the age of accountability. It's more
theorized by most and some many don't believe

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that it exists at all. But
religiously people use them or theologically people use

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that term, usually to say there's
different schools of thought. Some of them

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will say, well, a child
will automatically go to Heaven if they're below

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a certain age or the age of
accountability, which really is a sliding scale

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to begin with, because there are
children at very young ages that understand and

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comprehend many things, and then there
are others that get older and maybe slightly

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slower and don't understand things. There
are religious traditions that say that the age

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of ability is twelve or thirteen because
they reference that my first readings in scripture

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come around that time, or certain
things like this. So people will make

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kind of arbitrary lines saying, well, it has to be this, has

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to be that. But as far
as scripture specifically saying an age of accountability,

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no, But there is talk that
people will come to the knowledge of

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the difference, the difference between sweet
and bitter, and some people say,

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well, that may be alluding to
the concept of truth versus that which is

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false, But no one verse that
you're going to come across. That's why

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it is a topic that's continually argued
to this day. Is there a particular

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reason you ask I was just trying
to give some hope to somebody who doesn't

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believe, who believes that if a
three year old dies today, they're going

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to go to hell. Well,
there's no reason to believe that either.

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I mean, there's there and there. The argument kind of goes it does

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tie into that, and there's people
they go back and forth and they quote

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Proverbs twenty eleven that talks about even
a child is known by his doings,

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whether his work be pure, whether
it be right. There are those that

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will talk about Matthew Mark and I
think this also in Luke eighteen sixteen,

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where it says suffer little children and
forbid them not to come to me for

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such as the kingdom of Heaven.
And people look at that and say,

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obviously Christ is talking there about the
children being in heaven. And this is

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an argument that goes back and forth. This is a place where really faith

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comes in and you have to trust
that when the ugliness of something like a

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child dying takes place, that God, God has a way of balancing these

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things out. That really accountability and
salvation is based on acceptance or rejection,

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not ignorance, and that's where the
confusion sometimes lies. Ken, Welcome to

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the Jesus Christ Show. Hi Jesus. When I was eight years old,

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I was at a Christian camp swimming
in a lake and I watched the boy

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drown right in front of me.
Oh. It was a horrible, dramatic

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incident that changed my life forever.
And now I take it to being an

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adult. I'm forty years old now
and I decided to have my daughter baptized

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about two weeks ago, and I
get the directions to the lake, and

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my daughter's very excited, and I'm
very excited to have her baptized. And

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I drive in and it's the same
lake that I watched a boy drown when

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I was exactly her age, and
I kind of relived the whole incident again

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and I was devastated. I mean, the odds of this happening. Of

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all the places that I could have
had my daughter baptized, it was exactly

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the same place that I watched this
happen. And you know, I didn't

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know why this was going on.
I had mixed feelings about it. Maybe

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I shouldn't do it, Maybe it's
cursed. Is this really what God's plan

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is is to use this lake?
And you know I decided that, you

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know, this wasn't about me anymore. This is about my daughter accepting Jesus

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Christ in her life. And I
explained to her what happened, and we

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decided to do it. But I
was wondering if there's any significance to this

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at all. Well, I'll tell
your first. I'm very proud of you

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because you pushed through it. The
enemy had you at every turn on that

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one. He would have loved nothing
more than you two turn that car around

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and not have your daughter baptized.
It would have been a huge victory in

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his eyes. And you push through
it. There are a lot of things

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that are going to take place.
You drive on roads every day that people

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have lost loved ones on. Every
day. You've gone to hospitals where people

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have died. You've gone to restaurants
where people have been have gotten sick,

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or might have choked on something.
Death is a part of life. It's

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everywhere. But you need to see
the significance of the instance in what's taking

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place, rather than the fact that
there's a history of something. Now,

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if that child died because there was
something in that water, I wouldn't blame

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you, but because of a freak
accident or someone dying to not use you

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know, there's reason that it's the
same place. This particular church or churches

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in general in that area area may
use this. For you said it was

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a Christian camp or and now it's
a Christian baptism that there is You know,

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it's a body of water in the
area. It's normal for it to

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be used in different purposes. But
what I want you to take from this

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is the fact that things aren't evil
unto themselves. There isn't an evil thing

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in the world. Evil is when
morally neutral things have bad relationships. So

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for instance, when a child is
unattended or doesn't swim well, water can

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be evil in the relationship between that
person and the water and they can drown.

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But in a baptism that's controlled and
there are people around to watch and

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it's done structurally, it can be
a beautiful thing about the awakening of someone's

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spirit and the acknowledgment of their faith. So likewise, if someone broke into

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your house heaven forbid, with a
gun, that's a bad thing. But

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if right behind them, law enforcement
broke into your house with a gun,

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that's a good thing. And so
I want you to stop, you know,

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not to see this lake as something
good or bad. It was depending

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on how it was experienced, that
was good or bad. But the lake

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itself is not evil and it isn't
cursed or anything like that Situationally, it's

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very sad that you had to witness
that at such a young age or at

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all, and it's going to be, you know, an indelible mark on

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your life forever. But I hope
that it will be equally as indelible the

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moment and the beauty of watching your
daughter being baptized and confirm her place and

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her heart for God in front of
all those people that too should have power.

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Wouldn't you say, Yeah, I
just I just believe it. And

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it's you know, some good has
come of it, because I decided to

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be a paramedic after that for obvious
reasons. So it did change my life

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forever. But it also you know, after her being baptist baptized, I'll

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never forget that day in my life. That was a day that just stood

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out to me and I felt that, you know, God was talking to

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me that day. It just was
a really strange thing to go through.

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And what was he saying. He
was saying, to let this go.

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He was saying, don't harbor any
guilt. It wasn't my fault. You

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know, I was a child I
and I didn't rescue him. I I

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panicked, But you didn't have the
ability to rescue him, right, I

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didn't, So it can't be your
fault, right, And I and I

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it took a long time to realize
that it wasn't my fault. And but

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you know, just to let it
go. I mean just to say goodbye

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to him, to pray for him, and I don't know. It was

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just a really difficult thing to go
through. And being a paramedic, I've

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seen people drown and been on the
other side of it too. It was

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just a really strange day. I
want you to take all those the physical

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things and seeing someone lose their life
obviously very potent. Scripture says do not

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fear those that can kill the flesh, but those that can kill the spirit.

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And I want you to think about
all those people that are drounding spiritually

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every single day because no one wants
to do anything about it. They're embarrassed

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to share their faith or whatever it
might be. And the situation you're describing

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is that you immediately grew into a
person who said, you know what,

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I want to know what to do
and became a paramedic. What you witnessed

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with your daughter was you know,
the symbolism of baptism is the death and

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the burial and the resurrection as they
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I think all of that that imagery
is very powerful, but what you do

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with it is up to you.
You know, the same knife you may

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use for a tracheotomy, an emergency
tracheotomy is the is a knife that could

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be used to kill somebody. And
to not put value positive or negative on

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these things, the water, the
knife, the any of these things,

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but to see them as proper usage
and improper usage and what you've got,

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you've got to see both in the
same body of water, and you got

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to see both sides of the beauty
of that water and the power of that

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water in the sense of that it
could take a life, but to dwell

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on it or somehow let it weigh
you down when it's obviously been a you

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know, a pause or productive in
your life, piece of your life.

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Because you've taken it and said I'm
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You have to let you have to
let the power of that lake or the

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mystery of that lake go away.
But you don't have to forget what took

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place there. You don't forget what
you learned there. You don't have to

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forget the life. But you couldn't
do anything. And guilt is irrelevant,

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It doesn't mean anything. It has
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I think that you should enjoy the
beauty of what your daughter went through and

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that that should be a significant part
of your life, equally as significant as

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the death that you witnessed, because
if you really believe what it says in

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scripture, it says that the fear
is not in the flesh being lost,

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but the spirit being lost. And
so you were able to sit there and

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watch your daughter come into a new
life in Christ. And that's a very

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powerful and wonderful thing. I'm sorry
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it's obvious that it is done something
and meant something in a way that has

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become very very productive in your life
that glorifies God. The other gives the

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enemy total Foothold Dale, Welcome to
the Jesus Christ Show. Hello Jesus Hi

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Dale. I'm first time caller I
have listened to for quite some time.

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Well, welcome, How can I
help you? I was married to who

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to whom I perceived as my actually
my soulmate at a young age. I

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was actually twenty and she was she's
eighteen. We were blessed with them with

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my with a with a daughter and
actually and then two to other sons after

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that. Married for fourteen years and
worked so hard to build a good life

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and all my plans for the future, and all all the plans that I

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thought God had and sore for me
were there. And it was probably,

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I mean, the utmost happiest time
of my life. And I had you

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know, it was fairly successful in
the field that I was in at the

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time. I actually put my wife, my ex wife never worked because we

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wanted her to be with the children
as much as possible and daily. I

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hate to rush you, but because
of time, is there a question?

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Yeah, it's been divorced. She
she she had she committed an adultery,

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had an affair on me for a
year and when I found this out,

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it broke me more than than I
mean. I've never been able to get

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over this. And this is four
years ago now and it's still like it

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was yesterday. Will the pain ever
stop? I mean, I have to

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watch another man raise my children.
Mhm. How does someone well, I

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still have yet to know. I
do not know how to deal with this.

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Sale, Hold on tight. I
have some thoughts for you. Just

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after this break, we were talking
with Dale. Dale. You're still there,

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Yes, I am, okay.
So you said that this woman you

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was your soulmate and you get married
young, you have children, she has

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an affair and now she's with someone
else and they're raising your children. Yeah,

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she she she married the man that
she was in an affair with and

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they actually have a child now together. And I've do you have things that

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all I do is I live for
I see my children every two weeks.

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That's what you know. They that's
that's what they said that I mean,

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that's all I could do. Dale, Do you drink it? All I

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did? I did? But you're
cleaning sober now? Excuse me? You're

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clean and sober now? Not quite? Not quite? And what is not

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quite? Mean? There are times
when I wouldn't. I would do anything

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to kill the pang. You know
that that's not productive and it won't help

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you see those children? Absolutely absolutely, And I am a Christian and but

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and I know that it's the right
thing. Are you? Are you drinking

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today at all? No? I'm
not. Okay. Good, that's a

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good start, so Dale, when
it when it comes to relationships, you

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get two people. Obviously, you
both have a say, and you both

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can take the You know, you
can either positively move in one direction together

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or you can move in two different
directions. Chances are if we parsed your

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whole relationship. When we looked back, there was a time when you saw

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signs of maybe she not being the
right one. Then people bring children into

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the equation all of that. We
don't have time for that. But what

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I do want to tell you is
that if you live in the bowl of

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just staring at that circumstance she's married
and she's moved on, you won't be

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able to dig yourself out at all. If you get to a place where

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you're bettering yourself, you're not you
know, getting into the hoots, you're

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not drinking, you're being productive,
and you're finding ways to I would encourage

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you to help others, And there's
programs for people that have been cheated on

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and things like that that you can
go into and talk and find out the

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things that people have gone through and
how they've pushed themselves through it. Prayer

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and church and all these things play
a part of all this. Then you

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can move forward yourself and find that
happiness or a partner in life. But

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if you're going to focus on the
past, on the program a lot of

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times, and I know pain is
difficult to get through, but there's a

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limit. There's a certain amount of
pain that comes from the experience and then

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the rest is you putting it on
yourself. And I like in the past

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to driving and when you drive,
you have a rearview mirror, but you

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use the rearview mirror only to move
forward right, to change lanes, to

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make sure that you're driving safely.
But you would never drive staring in the

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rear view mirror, wouldn't you,
Because if you if you just stared at

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the rearview mirror, you'd crash right
absolutely, And that's what you're doing right

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now. You're driving staring in the
rearview mirror. So and I don't want

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to I want to move forward,
I really do. So today you need

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you need to start and actually have
a process, whether it's setting up time

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to go to church and be constructive
there. You need to find a charity

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or something where you can put your
time into helping others, not wallowing in

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your own pain. And you need
to dedicate yourself to those things and continue

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to build up your wants and desires
in life and the things that make you

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you dale so that you'll be attractive
to somebody. But somebody who's wallowing,

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who's boozing it up, is not
going to be attractive to any woman.

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That's going to be good for you. You gotta clean yourself up. Your

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daddy and you're a child to God, and you gotta clean yourself up.

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And then women will come and you'll
build your life and fulfill it by yourself,

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and then you'll be ready for another
partner. But to sit in the

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pain isn't going to help. And
that's the best I can tell you.

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It's about you applying that now.
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