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to the latest edition of the Get Off My Pylon College football podcast. This
is your host, Matt Semmic. So this podcast which looks at PAC twelve
western college football in the United States. We've had a full PAC twelve conference
slate to finally look at three weeks of non conference games in which the PAC
twelve did really well. But you know, there are a lot of cupcakes
in those first three weekends of PAC twelve football. USC playing Stanford and Nevada
San Jose State. Stanford obviously a conference game, but you know, Nevada
and San Jose State were cupcakes. And Oregon playing Portland State in Hawaii on
and on non UCLA playing North Carolina sent and hey, North Carolina Central game
certainly did not prepare the Bruins adequately for Utah. Chip Kelly might have wanted
to beef up his non con schedule a little bit to get USC UCLA fully
prepared for the youths. UCLA was not prepared for what was to come.
In Salt Lake City or should we say sack Lake City. The youths did
their thing on defense under Kyle Willingham once again. But anyway, the non
con portion of the season is mostly over. Obviously at USC Notre Dame still
to come. But you know we're now in PAC twelve conference games in this
final season of the conference's existence. So a lot to talk about after Week
four, and I think you have to start not with Colorado Oregon because you
know what Colorado discourse. We're gonna talk about this in a bit. Colorado
discourse has not been good. And it's probably understandable that the discourse surrounding Colorado
and Dion Sanders been way over the top. But let's just say it.
Colorado is not that good. And that's not a way of saying Colorad was
overrated. No, Calad was just not a nine win team. This is
a team that's gonna be a five or six win team, which you know,
if Colorad gets six wins and there's a really good chance because you think
Colorad is gonna beat Arizona State and it's gonna beat Stanford, So that's five
wins assuming Colorado wins those two and if Klara can get a sixth win somewhere
get to a bowl game, that's an amazing season for Dion. That's an
amazing season for that program. But the idea that Colorado Oregon was this big,
huge game, and I know that obviously there was a lot of hype
around it, and obviously at Trojan's Wire, which I the site that I
edit, like, I'm certainly gonna write about it a lot because that's what
people are interested in. But if whenever you asked me about the game,
whenever someone would ask me about that game, I'd say, Oregon's gonna blow
the doors off. It's exactly what happened. Like I'm not surprised at all
by that. So that was like it was a game that got a lot
of hype, but it was never really a big, main event, showcase
game in the sense of like you felt that two heavyweight teams while we're taking
the field against each other. The real game where we start with the PAC
twelve in Week four was Oregon State Washington State. This was the real big
newsmaker, Oregon State. Let's remember Oregon State was the defense that really shut
down USC and Caleb Williams. Last season, USC scored just seventeen points.
It was a real slog. USC had just ten points in the first fifty
eight minutes of the game before Caleb Williams put together a great drive in the
closing moments to win that game. But Oregon State's defense had USC's offense figured
out, and your USC did not come close to scoring that few points when
Caleb Williams was healthy throughout the game. Now, USC scored just twenty four
against Utah in the Pact Wealth title game. That was with Caleb Williams being
hurt. So really, Oregon State by a considerable margin had the best defensive
performance against USC of any team last year. And one of the things that
I've been clear about saying this year is that USC's scoring at least thirty points
in every game. Last year's clunker against Oregon State, and Oregon State had
a lot to do with that. The USC's you know, experience upfront on
the offensive line, Caleb Williams having another year under Lincoln Riley. I just
don't see any team holding USC under thirty. Maybe Notre Dame is going to
be the exception on October fourteenth, maybe, but I really do think that
USC's gonna be able to score thirty points in that game. You know,
Ohio States scored seventeen with a very very young, inexperienced quarterback at the controls.
But you put an elite quarterback on an offense against Notre Dame, I
think US can score thirty. But all this is to underscore how great Oregon
State was on defense against USC last season, and Oregon State was great on
defense most of the time. You know that that was just a well coached
unit. It was a physical unit. It was a consistent group as well.
Like Washington did not have an easy time against that Oregon State defense,
Oregon did not have an easy time against that defense. I mean, Oregon
landed some shots and had some successes, but it certainly wasn't a smooth ride.
Over the course of sixty four minutes. Oregon State was able to contain
each of those offenses, like, they didn't hit fifty. They didn't go
absolutely crazy the way Washington and Oregon are both going crazy on offense early this
season. You know, Washington's making it look very easy right now in the
Pac twelve. But you know, Oregon State was hard to play against on
defense last season. And so going up against Washington State in the PAC two
championship game, you know, as everybody's been talking about two schools that really
deserved better, but both got a raw deal when the PAC twelve CEO group
completely mismanaged the conference in the ESPN media rights deal and all that stuff.
So you knew it was going to be an emotional game. And emotions and
adrenaline and college football we know this. They can lead young athletes to play
beyond their capabilities. That can lift athletes to play higher, go faster,
go stronger. You know, that's kind of the Olympic motto, you know,
higher, faster, stronger. Washington State went higher and faster and stronger
in this game. Washington State really surprised me. Washington State really transcended what
I thought this team and this offense were capable of. You know, when
you look at Washington State, let's remember Washington State's offensive line was a problem
for the Cougars last year. Utah figured out that offensive line. Usc usc
held Washington State to fourteen points last season. That's how limited and inconsistent Washington
State's offense was. Washington State had some really good games, but also some
real clunkers and the offensive line was the source of the Kugars problems. And
so you put together Washington State having struggled on its offensive line for much of
last season and Oregon State being so physical and so tough on defense and having
a really good reputation on that side of the ball. I did not see
this one coming. I did not see Washington State being able to score thirty
eight points on Oregon State. I thought that if this game was going to
break in Wazoo's direction, it was going to be because Oregon State's offense was
a total mess. And now that offense wasn't great, like the Oregon State
offense made a big rally late over the course of the full game wasn't tremendous.
But really, this was more about This was not about dj Uyanglole Fay.
This was about Washington State and cam Ward absolutely smoking what looked like on
paper to be a good Oregon State defense. Cam Ward behind a good offensive
line, an offensive line which had answers, it found solutions. Credit to
Jake Dickert for looking at this big problem on his roster and fixing it,
getting it shored up. I'm like, if this is the offensive line that
Washington State is going to carry through the rest of the PAC twelve season.
Cougars are a legitimate PAC twelve tith tender, folks, And as we look
forward in this PAC twelve season after Wazoo's win over Oregon State, look at
Washington State's schedule, there are a lot of games the Cougars should win.
There are a lot of soft portions of the schedule. Washington State does not
play usc for instance, Washington State does not play Utah as well, so
the Cougars get a couple really big breaks on their schedule. Now they do
have to go play Oregon, they do have to play Washington of course,
they have to play their northwest neighbors, just as they played Oregon State as
well. But they beat Oregon State. So when you look at Washington State's
schedule, the next game for the Cougars, they're off this week in Week
five, but in week six, October seven, they go to Pasadena to
play the UCLA Bruins. If Washington State beats UCLA, look out because if
Washington State beats Ucla, then the Cougars have games against the middle and the
bottom of the PAC twelve, plus the Washington and Oregon games. So if
Wazoo can beat Ucla on the road, and that's not going to be easy,
but if Wazoo can do that, they should be able to mop up
against the lower end of the PAC twelve. The way that they're playing,
the talent they have, the offensive line play they're getting, Like, if
they sustain that, they should be better than Arizona. They should be better
than Arizona State, Colorado, those other teams that they're playing later in the
season. If Wazoo beats Ucla, we're looking at a very realistic situation where
if the Cougars can split, if they can just win one of the two
against Washington and Oregon. Now that's not going to be easy, but just
win one of those two games. Don't have to win both, just get
one of them. Washington State would be eleven and one overall and would be
eight and one in the PAC twelve. If that's the case, Washington State
is going to be in Las Vegas, most likely playing for the PAC twelve
championship. How many called that before the season, very very very small number,
but like that's how much Washington States win over Oregon State has changed the
landscape of the PAC twelve race because Wazoo, as I just mentioned, not
playing USC or Utah softer schedule in certain pockets. And so if Wazoo can
figure out Chip Kelly and Dante Moore the way Kyle Whittingham and Utah did,
like this season could get could become really special for Washington State. And just
imagine Washington State getting to the Pac twelve title game as part of the Pack
two, being one of these two schools that was completely wronged by the PAC
twelve CEO groups mismanagement. And yet Washington State would have a chance in Las
Vegas on Friday, December one to play for the Pac twelve Football Championship.
Oh what a story that would be. And now it's a lot more realistic.
Wazoo can beat ECLA on October seventh, like that becomes very very possible,
not probable, but very possible. So Washington State has created a whole
lot of excitement in the Pac twelve. The other really big game from Week
four Utah putting the clam on UCLA. And so before the season, one
thing I was saying in terms of any media appearances I did when talking about
pactual football and also in terms of my written coverage at Trojan's Wire was that
UCLA had one guy taking pretty much all the snaps as the starting quarterback for
each of the last five seasons. And that's unprecedented because you had the COVID
year of eligibility, giving guys a chance to play five years, you know,
not talking about a red shirt, just an added year of eligibility.
So that was something entirely new in the course of college football history. One
guy being able to start five straight years of a program. That was Dorian
Thompson Robinson at UCLA. You know, he was the starter, wasn't the
starter at the very beginning of twenty eighteen, but he was the starter at
quarterback for most of that twenty eighteen season under Chip Kelly. Then he was
the starter in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, and twenty
twenty two. So I don't care what the program is, even if it's
like Alabama or Georgia or some other dynastic power. When you have one guy
at quarterback for five straight years, it's gonna be an adjustment the year after
that quarterback finally leaves. And that was my point of skepticism. I felt
that unless Dante Moore was you know, had Caleb Williams style intangibles, you
know, to go along with his talent. Unless Dante Moore was really,
really, really special, UCLA was going to struggle on offense this year.
And sure enough, Utah you know, at home in Salt Lake City,
where it's so hard to win and it's so hard to play well because Kyle
Woodenham coaches toughness and physicality into his teams so well, like, you get
consistency of effort from Utah at a level you don't from other programs. That's
why the uts of one back to back pack twelve championships have made back to
back Rose Bowls. Like, coaching effort is a skill, and coaching effort
is definitely something that that coaching staffs have to be able to do. And
the great coaches do get the consistent effort from their from their players. Kyle
Winningham is tops He's he's top tier in that regard, and so that consistency
of toughness on defense was able to nearly shut out UCLA. And in a
sense the game was fourteen seven, but really Utah's defense did shut out Ucla
in the sense that Okay Ucla scored seven, but Utah's defense also scored seven
on the pick six on the first play from scrimmage, So essentially Ucla UCLA's
offense scored a net of zero points plus seven on the late touchdown, but
minus seven on the first play of the game. So Ucla def exposed.
But also Utah just exhibiting a masterclass on defense and winning another game without Cam
Rising. So Utah's four and oh without Cam Rising. Once Cam Rising comes
back, you would think this offense is gonna become a lot better. So,
you know, hats off to Utah. We're doing what it has been
able to do so far this season without Cam Rising. Oregon Colorado, now
we've touched on the reality that you know Colorado is. You know, if
Colorado gets six wins, it goes to a Bowl. It's an amazing season.
But now we also have to look at Oregon and give credit to Oregon.
I think the most impressive part of this performance for Oregon, it's not
that Bownecks, you know, just torched Colorado in the first half, because
I think we all saw that one coming. But like I thought this was
going to be like a sixty three twenty eight game like Oregon winning by like
thirty five forty points, but with Oregon just know, really rolling it up,
kind of like what the Miami Dolphins did against the Denver Broncos. Kind
of thought it was going to be like that, uh, you know,
maybe not seventy twenty, but like Oregon certainly scoring over fifty five sixty points.
But I thought Colorado was going to score in the hot mid to high
twenties. I thought Colorado was gonna make it get its share of downfield offensive
plays, you know, and score at least a little bit and make this
more of a track meet. No, Oregon just absolutely throttled Colorado's offense.
So that's a really encouraging sign for the Ducks. Because Oregon's defense did not
look all that good against Texas Tech in weeks two, you saw some significant
improvements against Colorado. Now questions are gonna linger. You know, was Colorado
just really that bad? And what about Colorado not having Travis Hunter. That's
obviously a question we're going to continue to follow, you know, while Hunter
is out, and we're going to measure Colorado now versus you know, how
color plays with Hunter returns to the lineup later in the season. But even
then, like, let's let's remember that Colorado when it beat TCU in week
one of the season, four different Colorado receivers had over one hundred receiving yards.
So it wasn't just the Travis Hunter show. Now, people will say,
and this is a good point, that Travis Hunter stretched the field such
that the other receivers have more opportunities, Like, you have to acknowledge that.
So it's not as though, you know, the Colorado receivers without Hunter
are going to dominate and there are going to have amazing statistical numbers the way
they did when Hunter was on the field, making their lives easier, giving
them more open spots in the field to work with. So Hunter definitely matters
for the rest of the receiver group. But like the no one on this
in this receiver room was able to break free against Oregon, So that much
has to be said. To the extent that Colorado tried to hit big plays
in the passing game against this Oregon defense, the Ducks were ready, and
so you have to give Oregon credit there. It's gonna be interesting to see,
as you know, the season goes along, how much that Colorado Oregon
game was is and will be representative of how those two teams are and how
those two teams are going to play later this season. Like Oregon plays Washington
on October fourteenth, Oregon plays Stanford this week, that that's a layup for
Oregon. But you know that Oregon Washington game. When that game unfolds,
we're going to be using the Colorado game as a reference point. It's going
to give us more clarity about the balance of power in the conference and how
good or bad Colorado really is. And we really don't have a handle on
that question, but I think we can all say, like, Colorado's not
a conference title contender, like we know that much. But whether Colorado was
like a seven win team or a five win team, that means to be
seen. It's gonna be interesting to see how Colorado evolves over the course of
the season. All Right, more in the PAC twelve and a little bit.
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So as we look ahead in the PAC twelve and look at more storylines from
the conference, our attention is immediately refocused to a couple of showcase games this
upcoming weekend. In Week five, we start with the Friday game, and
not just because Friday proceeds Saturday, but because this is the big one.
This is the big one. In Week five Utah at Oregon State, so
all eyes are going to be on Cam Rising still hasn't played for the US
this season, Obviously it would benefit Utah if Cam Rising could play. Even
if Cam Rising is not at one hundred percent, he's still a baller,
He's still the leader of this team. He's still the leader of this offense.
Utah needs him on the field. Utah needs Cam Rising if it wants
to be able to score what twenty eight thirty points a game? Forget about
four, you forget about fifty. Utah just needs came Riding to score thirty
or twenty seven. Because you know, the youths with without Cam Rising,
you know, they just have it rough. Nate Johnson, Bryson Barnes just
not able to push the ball down the field. They're also injured at tight
end where they've been able to do so much damage. Grant Leafy like they
need him back as well, But they need cam Rising back most of ball
like he's the engine, he's the captain, you know, he he is
the field general who makes things happen for this team and this offense. So
even if he's not Cam Rising, just by returning he makes that Utah offense
better. So, you know, if he can't play, it's hard to
see Utah finding enough offense to win at Oregon State if he can play,
it becomes a matter of, you know, can he at least distribute the
ball to all of his receivers, can he get his teammates involved? Can
he give Utah at least enough balance to spread the field and get Oregon State
off balance enough? And Utah's gonna look at game film this week and he's
gonna see what cam Ward in the Washington State offense was able to do,
striking down the field, finding weak spots in the Oregon State secondary, and
getting the level of offensive line play that you know was able to stand up
to Oregon State's defensive line. So Utah, you know, if Cam Rising
plays, even if Cam Rising is not one hundred percent, if they get
like eighty percent of Cam Rising, that could still be enough given the weaknesses
that we've seen from Oregon States defense. But if Cam Rising can't play,
this is going to be a slog for Utah. And keep in mind that
after losing to Washington State, Oregon State's going to be desperate. Oregon State's
gonna be angry, like this is a game organ State absolutely cannot afford to
lose. If Oregon State goes to oh and two in the Pac twelve title
hopes are shot. I mean, we can say that Oregon State could still
run the table, go to seven and two in Pac twelve play, but
what are the odds of that? Because Oregan State has to play Oregon,
organ State has to play Washington. Not likely to run the table with that
kind of a schedule. Organ State really needs to win this game against Utah
on Friday, that wants to maintain any realistic, reasonable hopes of contending for
the PAC twelve championship. So in that context, in that situations, it's
hard to bet against Oregon State. And with the mystery surrounding Cam Rising at
quarterback just not it's hard to think that Utah is going to find enough offense
to solve organ State's defense. And let's also remind ourselves Research Stadium was under
construction, it was under renovation last year, so fans were only on one
half of the field, one side of the field. Now you have a
fuller, bigger Research Stadium. It's going to be really loud Friday night in
Corps Vallist. That's gonna be a hornet's nest for Utah to go into Oregon
State being desperate, Oregon State being really frustrated, after the Wazoo performance,
So arrows indicators are pointing toward Oregon State winning that game over Utah. I
mean, and if UTAK can win that game without Cam Rising, let's just
call Kyle Winningham the PACT twelve Coach of the Year right now and we can
be done with that. That would be absolutely phenomenal. But really, so
many question marks on the Utah side due to its offense. I mean,
you can say at their question marks on the on the Oregon State side,
particularly the defense, that's absolutely true. But really Utah can't keep winning games
with minimum output from its offense. The uths are are tempting the fates a
little bit on that one. So I would certainly look at Oregon State as
the team that should be favored in that game, the team that should win
that game. Now, if Cam Rising plays and plays great, all right,
that's a counterbalance. But it's really hard to expect Cam Rising to play
great after the long injury layoff, everything that he's been through. You know,
I wouldn't be surprised if he plays, but I would be surprised,
I think if he plays great. But maybe the hope is for Utah.
You don't need a great game from Cam Rising. You just need a game
manager, a guy who can maybe throw a lot of short passes, but
it's still's confidence in all his teammates, and you talk can control the ball,
limit Oregon State's offensive opportunities, and create a low possession game that's like
seventeen seventeen going into the final five minutes of the game. That would seem
to me to be Utah's path to victory. All Right. The other really
big game, it's the Fox Big New Saturday game. It's the game where
you know everybody's going to be talking about it. It's the game where all
the talk shows are going to be, you know, camping in Boulder for
that game. It's USC. It's Colorado ten am, Breakfast with the Buffalos
in Boulder. You have Caleb Williams against Shreder Sanders. You're not going to
have Travis Hunter there, and that's that's certainly a big limitation on Colorado and
what it is able to do. But nevertheless, it's the USC circus meeting
the Deon Sanders Circus at fulsome Field and USC coming off a very ragged,
very poor performance against Arizona State. Arizona State got shut out by Fresno State.
In Week three, USC allowed twenty eight points to Arizona State. And
it's worth noting, yes, Arizona State coach Kenny Dillingham didn't call plays for
the Sun Devils the first three weeks of the season. He called plays in
this game, so he did things that USC didn't see on film. He
did things that USC hadn't previously been able to study or look at. So
the dynamic did change, and Dillingham called a great game for Arizona State.
That much is true. But you look at this from the USC perspective.
Arizona State had four starting offensive linemen out. Arizona State was missing ten overall,
players who had started games were projected starters earlier in the season. This
was a badly undermanned Arizona State team and with that little depth and that little
frontline quality for Arizona State, USC should have been able to punch Arizona State
in the mouth from the get go, and that did not happen. Now.
USC began to accumulate sacks and pressures against Arizona State's offensive line midway through
the second half, late in the third quarter, early in the fourth quarter,
But that's what we were expecting the whole night, but it didn't happen
the whole night. It only happened for about twelve to fifteen minutes in the
first half. Arizona States undermanned offensive line was holding its own against USC.
And that's why this game was only a six point game early into the fourth
quarter, and USC was favored by thirty five. And if the Trojans were
sweating bullets, ASU had the ball down six with a chance to take the
lead early in the fourth quarter before USC's pass rush finally began to generate a
little bit of consistency and put the game away. So you look at all
the wobbles and all of the sloppy, undisciplined moments from USC against Arizona State
on both sides of the ball, and now you put in that breakfast start
time, that body clock element. USC playing a game that's gonna start just
after nine am Pacific, it's gonna start at ten am, just after ten
am in Boulder in the Mountain time zone. Is USC is going to be
focused? Is USC gonna be prepared or are we gonna see this mentally rattled,
unprepared team that we saw against Arizona State. I think the body clock
element and USC just showing a lot of weakness mentally. That's the one real
question for the Trojans heading into this game now. And the USC's favored by
twenty three, is expected to win this game handily. But after what we
saw against Arizona State thirty five point favorite leading by only six early in the
fourth quarter, is USC gonna going to be unfocused and sloppy on a continuous
basis? And you look at the defense with Alex Grinch, fourteen miss tackles
according to Pro Football Focus against Arizona State, and we saw Bryson Shaw and
Max Williams and Eric Gentry, guys in the secondary and in the linebacker unit
missing tackles left and right being out of it looked a lot like the Cotton
Bowl against Tulane when USC was just completely disorganized and completely outclassed on defense.
A lot of questions are going to persist about Alex Grinch's USC defense. And
so you know Colorado after the bad showing against Oregon, if Colorado gets things
fixed, if Colorado comes back with a really good performance, will that USC
defense be ready? Will that USC defensive line be ready to take control of
Colorado's offensive line and just cave in that pocket so that Shander Sanders doesn't have
any time to throw, doesn't have any time to look down field and hit
big plays in the passing game. That's going to be a primary central question
surrounding this USC Colorado game. The other patrowelve game in Week five, that's
worth noting. You have Cal against Arizona State. That's not particularly significant,
and so have Oregon at Stanford that should be a layup. But Washington and
Arizona and Washington nineteen point favorite in this game expected to dominate, and obviously,
on paper, Washington is a much better team. But if you know
anything about Pac twelve football, if you have studied this conference for you know,
at least like a decade, you followed the rhythms and workings of the
conference. You get a sense for the tendencies and the habits and the patterns
of various schools in this conference. What's one thing that you know? You
know that when Washington plays a road game and the State of Arizona, things
off and get wild. Things often get crazy, things often spend sideways.
Washington has not been able to beat Arizona State. That's not Arizona. But
Arizona State has not lost to Washington in Tempe since two thousand and one,
that's twenty two years. Washington's had a little more success against Arizona going down
to Tucson and the Old Pueblo, but the Huskies have still struggled in Tucson
over the years. They've won some games, but they haven't played well in
them. Like it always seems to be a root canal for Washington when it
goes to Tucson to play the Arizona Wildcats. And with this Arizona team now,
Jaden Vilaura got injured against Stanford. Maybe he will be healthy enough to
play against Washington. If he does play. Let's remember Jaden Vlaura was at
Washington State before he transferred to Arizona, so he knows the Washington Huskies really,
really well from his time at Washington State. You know, Washington,
if you play a best of seven series, Washington easily wins six. But
this is just one game. This could be the one time that Arizona plays
really well against Washington. Knowing Washington's history in the state of Arizona, you
know, this game has a chance to get really screwy, and that is
the lingering drama surrounding the Huskies who look eight, but when they step inside
the borders of the state of Arizona, things can get a little wacky.
And so that is something to keep in mind for that particular matchup in Week
five of the college football season, the second full weekend of Pac twelve play.
It's a very interesting place, the Pac twelve Conference, and you know
we have the really really big showdowns just around the bend in the middle of
October right now. The key for these top teams try and stay focused on
the task at hand. Don't look ahead to the bigger showdowns. Just do
what you're supposed to do now in the Pac twelve Conference. Thanks for listening
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