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Steve Ribera and Jacin Salis. They
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Sports Stage. Chef Fox Sports fourteen
fifty. Hey, welcome back to Winning

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the Ball hero Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay, Now

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Kevin with breaking news. This is
I on the Ball, breaking news on

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Fox Sports fourteen fifty. All right, so we're gonna go ahead and start

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with some news from up and north. The national champion UH swim and dive

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team for ASU has just lost their
director and head coach, who has just

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signed on to become the new director
of swimming and diving at Texas. That's

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kind of like the remember the Jay
Johnson thing they lost in the lost in

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the College World Series and then like
two days later, who was the head

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coach at LSU. Same thing.
So the ACU swimming dive coach wins the

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national championship on Saturday, and by
Monday he's the head coach. Del Conte.

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It's all here. But so what
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They fire him or her to get
retired. I don't know something. I

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don't know enough about swimming circumstances,
but that is kind of funny. Yeah,

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I mean he's coach Michael Phelps and
just got asked you to a national

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title. So high pedigree on him, but tough loss for a su uh

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Arizona wing. Philip or vichen And
as well as Paulus Morascus have entered the

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transfer portal, likely due to lack
of playing time. Well you know,

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are they exploring their opportunities. Yeah, that's the one thing that we don't

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know. We don't know. I
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Moroscus would would have a role at
least next year. Is a guy out

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on the wing. Didn't you like
him? He got heard that's and he

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played right right. I was if
anything was wrong about me this last five

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months. We both were on because
I thought feeling and yeah he was.

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We just thought you can play.
He just couldn't play here, I guess.

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And then the Moroscos can shoot.
He can shoot. I mean he

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was a joke around at the at
the stat table like you know when Yeah,

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I mean, if he gets the
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that's Philip too. I mean,
anytime I gotta get some numbers, man.

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Unfortunately his numbers were turnovers. Who
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you know, it is what it
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Now, will it be interesting to
see do they really leave or do they

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stick around or they're just checking out
to see what's out there for them?

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Let me ask you, because I
always get this wrong or don't even know

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an I L for the international players, does it exist or does it know?

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There's some that there's a there's battles. Yeah, there's a If Bruce

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explained it to us, and Bruce
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it was something like if if it's
if it's something for them, if it's

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just for them, they can accept
it. But if they're getting paid through

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the school, they can't something through
through the collectives. Okay, okay,

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So directly, if follow if Romberto
Lopez wants to pay Umar Balow to do

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something, he can't. But if
you're getting through the collective, then that's

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deemed employment and he can't. We'll
check something like that. Well, ast

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Bruce, it's one way or the
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because it's tough to be an international
player. If this is the case,

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right, it's or those are the
two ways that you can get money.

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One way if you're an international student. One way you can in one

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way you can't. I just don't
know which way. And there's kind of

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like, yeah, there's some loop
poles or whatever it is. Okay,

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okay, okay. Tennessee The Lady
Volunteers have fired their head coach, Kelly

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Harper, after just five seasons.
She replaced the legendary Pat Summit was able

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to get them to the same kind
of I saw them this morning. The

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coach following the legend Yeah, yeah, you don't want to be that Persson,

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right, you played as well and
she and she did very well to

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get to the sweet sixteen. She
had twenty or more wins at four times,

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but they never advanced past the sweet
teach. Well, guess who they're

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looking at. A former Tennessee the
dude coach, former Tennessee player. Gotta

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win, baby, it's the results
profession, especially there because guess what they're

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a blue blood. They are blue
blood. Tennessee is a women's basketball blue

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blood. Oh, we got a
call. Let's take this. HI,

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you're on there after knowing you guys, this is Gabe. How you guys

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are doing? Gave fine, we're
in the middle of breaking news, but

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go ahead, what do you have. I was just gonna call to see

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just to talk about Arizona's lost at
Funston, And uh, I'm not too

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bothered by the loss, to be
honest with you, because I kind of

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know that Arizona was gonna go on
a scoring drawing that would lead Arizona to

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lose the game. But Arizona is
certainly had the best chance to go to

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the final or or went all.
To be honest with you, is what

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it is. Let's just move on, and I just kind of have a

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few questions. Well, let me
let me let me know that top is

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this game. You sound happy or
not happy? Reasonable, I'm just getting

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over a cold shot. Anyway,
go ahead. So I'm just kind of

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interested if Colin Bosbo is gonna transfer
Allen as the program or if Tommy Lloyd

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is gonna just have him on a
short leash. And we know that Tommy

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Lloyd can't go in the transfer and
get players, so I'm not too worried

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about that. But yeah, I
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Now, oh you guys, I
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I think he really likes it.
I think he'd want him to stay now

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whether or not Kylon feels like the
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I mean, I would think the
time would say, well, you know,

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this is what you're gonna do,
and he's going to base make it

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based on the best way to win
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yeah, I totally agree with you. But if Colin Kylen ball Island

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Boswell decides to leave, what I
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pretty good Nils will and there,
and they're good in basketball. He seemed

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like a Kentucky or Oregon or like
a dude will probably go after him.

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So maybe not to that level,
but somewhere a good program because we all

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know Boswell can play. I think
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call year and maybe a change of
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help here. I mean, yeah, I know next year we're gonna get

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he's a good I think I think
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like a short leash and just he
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eighteen, but I think I think, I think I find I think most

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Arizona fans are frustrating. Compare with
like if when Colin Boswell was not scoring

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or not doing not playing his ass
off. I think that's the frustration with

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Arizona fans and with Colin Boswell kind
of playing Blackshock in Vegas. I just

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I think most Arizona fans I was
just saying, what the hell, what

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why are you doing that? Come
on, you're playing for Arizona. So

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anyway, thanks Gabe, we gotta
go appreciate. Okay, burden down,

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Arizona, go cat, Thank you
the reasonable Gabe. Today, welcome,

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ladies and gentlemen. Uh back to
some we're breaking news FAU center. Lad

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Golden is entering the transfer portal again. I'm sure he's pretty good. He

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is very good. I remember him
in Vegas. Yeah, at him in

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that guard there wasn't who doesn't need
any bigger guys. They have a bunch

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of guys, big guys. Uh
So you know, Jay, how can

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say this? It's been forever since
Arizona's had a shooter, a maker,

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A shooter and a maker right.
A guy a shooter right, a guy

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that made Yeah, the guy that
you throw in the ball and he's gonna

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make the shoot right, and and
and those are rare. But like Caleb

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loved, there were some games he
was that guy, but not every not

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a guy that you throw the ball
and you get. Okay, here comes

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the three going in. Well,
let me ask you, do you change

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your mind on my evaluation with him
or Mathrin? You've got to change your

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mind, please, Yeah? Yeah, no, yeah, because he was

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just two up and Mathron did more
things. Mathron did had had a he

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had more game. But if you
wanted if you're talking about just a guy

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who scores, I thought it was. I thought Caleb Love. But that's

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change. Well, yeah, because
he he didn't score for the last six

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games. He didn't. Right,
that doesn't happen by accident. So yeah,

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okay, let's move on the NCAAA. I don't know if you guys

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saw this yesterday, but the women's
tournament had a three point line in Portland

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that was nine inches shorter than the
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the court. It was nine inches
short. Uh, And both coaches agreed,

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Hey, we've already came this far, we came out to start warming

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up. Let's not delay it X
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had they would have had to sand
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or something, because it's painted onto
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Yeah, it was an issue with
the manufacturer of the pieces on the

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court. They got their measurements wrong
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together, it just didn't look the
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they didn't figure it out though until
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they went they played four games on
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Thursday. Apparently it's been fixed tonight
for Yukon and USC. So it's fixed.

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It's fixed. Undo the puzzle and
redo the puzzle apparently. Yes,

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So there's no unfair advantage to anybody
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I mean you both play on that
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it's kind of like, okay,
we got the wind or we don't have

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the win. That's actually a really
good comparison for us, to be honest.

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We have an update on the SMU
situation. They've gone and poached the

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former USC coach Andy Enfield to replace
Rob Lanier. So so there's jobs opening,

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right, So who would be nothing
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anymore because he's gonna be in a
different conference. But who would be a

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good fit for that job for USC
and don't see Josh Passner, Kevin O'Neill.

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He already already did that. It's
hard to say that's a hard job

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because one, they don't give a
crap about basketball at USC. Two you

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got to take that program into the
Big Ten. Now if if the money

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the Big Ten and the money is
that's that's one of those jobs where you

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go to get fired, right,
Andy Anfield, or you Andy Anfield beat

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the posse out of and you joll
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not gonna tell me that SMU is
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But he's going to the ACCU.
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play. And remember he came from
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he's from Florida or that area,
but I never thought he was a good

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fit there. He just didn't seem
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I don't know what that is basketball
who is, but just that it wasn't

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Andy Enfield, who is from Shippensburg, Pennsylvania, but okay, East Coast

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off Florida, you know, But
the point being that he just you know,

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he he had that great run at
Florida Gulf Coast until we partlaid that

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into a into a you know,
a power five job and just didn't really

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get there. But who's going to
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especially now with a big ten.
Yeah, Okay, a couple more

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pieces of breaking news here. So
lawyers for chiefs Wide receiver for she Rice

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is saying that he's not cooperating with
the Dallas police after his act, well,

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allegedly after an accident that he was
involved in, uh this past weekend

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with two well six cars, but
two a Lamborghinia Corvette that were racing,

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apparently racing one hit a median effect. She's not going to help, He's

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not gonna be accommodating. Well,
he is cooperating. He is cooperating with

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the police doing the quote from his
well he ran from the scene. Yeah,

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well yeah, what what's what's the
attorney saying? So, the attorney

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said on behalf of Rashid Rice,
his thoughts are with everyone impacted by the

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automobile accident on Saturday. Rashi is
cooperating with local authorities and will take all

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the necessary steps to address this situation
responsibly. All right, did he go

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to Georgia? Chance We're got to
see if his transcript actual transfer where well

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the credit hours transfer. Yeah,
I don't know if Georgia or not.

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And then we do have some some
more sadder news. A former NFL Cornervonte

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Davis passed away at the age of
thirty five, so that no, if

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I'll play is suspected, but we
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yet as well. And then we
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Iowa tips off in about five minutes, and then yukon usc tonight at six

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I believe versus page. The funny
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three more years, she gonna break
She already broke the freshman year freshman record

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and night she's gonna break the overall
freshman record, right, but she's not

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gonna stay well, who knows.
But you just see a lot of I

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mean, if she's making plenty of
a lot of money. My point is

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you see a phen phenom and then
you see a phenom at the same time.

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It's really cool. Thirty years old. The women's game has been really

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to watch. But that's all I
have for breaking news today. I did

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you, I didn't. I still
to go read the kiml Key article.

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It's fantastic. Did you read it? It was? In fact, in

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fact it was It wasn't nothing.
It was a good story. He wrote

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it really well. It was more
to do about nothing in her mind or

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when she was coming off us.
She's just a petty vindict not vindictive,

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she's just a petty mean person.
No, yeah, but yeah, but

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she's she's got a little jay in
her she's she's what the hell does that

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mean? She holds grudges? Oh, contact post contact? In fact,

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I was gonna call you here,
j Mulky because I think that's the one.

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I gotta go read it. It's
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not. It's a nothing burger with
a little SATs on it. Right.

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Well, but she got all worked
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No, it was just a piece
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unflattered and got on our guy from
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Yeah, did you that's what I
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so the edited it. Let me
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not gonna need to get him on
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let's get out of here. We're
gonna take a break, We're gonna come

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Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, he's jacobszas. Now on the phone,

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we have Bruce Pasco from the Arizona
Daily Star. Bruce, have you

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recovered from the weekend I had yesterday
off. Yeah, I mean, you

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know, trying to do some other
stuff today. And of course guys are

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who are transferring already, so that's
the way it goes, as they say,

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And then you got these dang radio
guys calling and bugging you and taking

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more of Yeah, no, no, you guys are funn no problems.

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What we've been called a lot of
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them. But we'll take that.
We appreciate it. I appreciate Yeah.

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So read your read your wrap up
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perspective or whatever you want to call
it. And you know, I think

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the most interesting point that Steve and
I came out of it was that you

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said that they landed about where they
people thought at the beginning of the year.

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Well, that's certainly what I thought. Yeah, I mean I voted

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them like, I think sixteenth in
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were voted twelfth overall, and they
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probably not by a large margin.
I think USC got a lot of votes,

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and I think there was maybe a
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something like that, so it was
sort of like, yeah, they were

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considered a top fifteen team and a
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And that's exactly what they did.
And like I said, and I

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said this before too, I think
they just you know, and it's it's

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nothing you want to not be but
they win too many games in November and

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this raised expectations through the roof really, especially with the final four being here

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in Arizona. And I think,
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that jump to think, wow,
this is the year for them, you

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know, but it's you know,
it wasn't. I remember I was with

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you in a duke in November eleven. I think there's the year. And

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one of the questions I asked after
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talked about something, and here's the
quote, I went back to my story.

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My goal is to win all our
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said, that's might go. That's
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November little checklist to win all my
games in November. I'm glad we're winning,

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but it's better than losing. And
here we are five months later talking,

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well, exactly what you said,
What does it mean in November and

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December not a damn thing. Well, I mean, you know it's funny,

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Steve. I mean, like,
you know, I've been doing this

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long and you've been doing batherer than
me. Even like you look at it,

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and like I think, if you
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the regular seasons and say, wow, they do a lot of good stuff.

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they killed Wisconsin on their home floor. You know, they had a lot

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of good saturdays in Michale where it
was crazy and they delivered a you know,

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a great product. The fans were
going nuts, et cetera. I

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mean, all that's great stuff,
right you're an Arizona fan. And then

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okay, but they get judged on
three games in the tournament and those three

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games aren't great, and and but
that you know, if that's the way

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you know, you look at it, and most college basketball fans, and

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especially fans who aren't die hard basketball
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at the tournament and if you look
at them, yeah, okay, they

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maybe didn't do so well. But
but overall, I mean, and there's

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been a lot of years. I
mean, if you know you've seen it,

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like the ninety eight team, the
three team, five team, you

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know, the fourteen and fifteen teams, all those team's great Arizona teams didn't

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achieve what they should have in the
tournament. So how do you look at

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it. I guess it's you know, up to the way you define it.

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But I still think there's some meaning
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again, I'm probably in the minority
because, like I said, most people

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judge judge college basketball in March,
and that's not where they've been well,

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brus. One of the things that
I keep saying is that I thought they

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had the talent to when the national
championship. Were we off, I mean,

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did they not have the talent to
win the national championship? I've you

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know, I mean, well,
you know, Beck Steven, I were

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watching that. We were sitting together
during that Dayton game, and I remember

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we were talking about like Boswell was
having a lot of trouble with the press.

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There was some they were pressing and
didn't look great, and I thought,

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you know, I think we were
discussing as like, Okay, they

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might pull this one out, but
this is probably not going to be a

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Final four team if they're having trouble
like this, and that that was kind

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of the case. I think going
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chance just because you never know what's
the matchups and and they did appear to

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be the deepest, most versatile team
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it's just it. Probably you know, they probably aren't as complete a

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teams as Peru and Yukon for example, are, but certainly you know that

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you can make a case sit up
and down there they're as good as the

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other two in the final four,
and then if they get matchups and or

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injury here, break here there,
I mean, yeah, sure they could

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have won it. I mean they
were, they were. I think that

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that group, you know, every
year, I don't. I think there's

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a couple of people, Kem Palm
and one of the other analytics guys who

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will give you like a dozen teams
who could win it, and it almost

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always is one of those teams.
And Arizona was one of those teams.

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So yeah, I think it's fair
to say they could have. But I

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think goodds were. We're not not
in their favor, you know, to

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your point, Jay, you think
that they're good enough and have the team

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to do it, but you don't
know until you know, right, you

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find out, right, and we
found out that Thursday that they weren't because

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there was a lot of issues in
terms of playing a team that's slower methodical,

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although we knew that already, right
right, you just gotta yeah,

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if you have that team and then
you lose. We did, although I

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think we didn't know that. But
I think the one thing again, this

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speaks to their versatility. I mean
when I always think back to that UCLA

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game and McHale was it was really
slog it out kind of deal. And

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they granted it was that McHale,
but they pulled it out. They figured

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a way to do it. The
same thing against sc and the and the

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their quarterfinal game in the PAC twelve
tournament. You know, they they could

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win those kind of games, but
they really had to be locked in and

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you know, and executing at that
pretty high level, you know, and

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not not it so thrown out a
whack, because those those kind of styles

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always seemed to throw then at a
whack. And and I think against Yeah

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Clinson, they just they couldn't overcome
it. And then let's just it affected

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their shooting and vice versa. That
affected their defense and then their lack of

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defensive they're shooting. It just went
downhill a big snowball. What was what

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was the best thing about this team? You know, what what attribute was

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their best attribute? Would you say? And then you know what was the

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biggest uh you know whatever, you
whatever? The opposite of that is the

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biggest uh liability? Well, I
think, you know, it's weird to

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say this, but I really think
the biggest thing about them was that they

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were versatile and they could win in
different ways. They could score in different

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ways. Now I say that,
and they just they just lost the game

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when nobody could score period except Lumar
Bollo, you know, when he wasn't

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at the PRESI And but but over
the course of the season, I mean,

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they got scoring out of every position. They could cause problems with every

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position. They had real versatile players, and Kishaw Johnson and Tela Larson,

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and then they had a shooter and
Caleb Love who was really good until he

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tailed off the last five or six
games whatever it was, and and uh,

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you know, and then a pretty
effective pair of point guards in Boswell

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and Bradley and and you know,
and then towards the end it became just

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Jayden Bradley and that that wasn't enough. But I think overall they could do

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it in different ways. Where's that
first team that Lloyd had. You had

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Ben Mathrin just like the guy give
me the ball, I'll get out of

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my way, I'm going to score, and he did. But there wasn't

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you know, it was it was
a big drop off after that offensively,

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and then last year I think,
you know, you've probably even have less

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ways where they can get it done, and then this team had a lot

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of ways they could get it done. So, you know, I thought

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that was good. And then as
the other part of question, Jay,

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I mean just as far as downside, probably you know twits Steve was saying

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earlier they still having a lot of
trouble with uh, you know, slower

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games and zone defenses and just and
just not that they can't handle it,

407
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:45.920
but it just seemed like they never
had the same rhythm, you know,

408
00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:48.680
And that even goes back to like, you know, when they played at

409
00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:52.640
Washington State in mid January on that
super cold day and they just they just

410
00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:56.559
weren't they just weren't themselves, you
know, and in a case when you

411
00:27:56.599 --> 00:28:03.079
know they they they could have been. Yeah, and That's been Arizona's skryptonite

412
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:07.160
for forever since I started covering,
and you've covered in the last twenty some

413
00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:10.799
years. It's just slow him down. You have a chance against Arizona,

414
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:12.960
and I don't care about the talent, because you could you can find ways

415
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:18.279
to be talent, and Arizona gets
found out somewhere along the line right right

416
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:25.079
well, And I can't remember Bruce
if it was you or Michael in yesterday

417
00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:30.200
said that maybe Tommy needs to evaluate
how they play. You know, what

418
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:37.319
was that you? Or was that
he? It might have been him.

419
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:41.880
I don't you know. What I
was writing about was more like I was

420
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.759
looking at the number of things that
the way the season went. But I

421
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:49.960
kind of closed with how he was
saying that, you know, he this

422
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:52.880
This was from a conversation when we
talked before the tournament, you know,

423
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:56.240
as I said, doing something like, you know, people do judge you

424
00:28:56.279 --> 00:28:57.279
on March. How do you feel
about that? And he said, yeah,

425
00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:00.880
it's not really fair, but the
way you do it is by keep

426
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:06.079
keep doing it a long time and
people will eventually forget the stumbles you had

427
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:07.720
along the way. And I think
that's true, especially if you look even

428
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:12.200
at loudle and I mean everybody talk, I mean legendary coach final fours,

429
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:15.440
national championship. But there was a
lot of first round games that he lost,

430
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.160
and people at that time were on
him. But you don't really hear

431
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:22.880
people talking about that as much anymore. And maybe someday, if Lloyd sticks

432
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.000
around for twenty years and takes them
two a couple of final fours, nobody

433
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:30.480
will remember Princeton, or at least
not talk about it much, and certainly

434
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.799
not not this year. I don't
know. We still talk about Santa Claire

435
00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:38.000
a lot, well, you guys, because only because yeah, only because

436
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:41.160
of Tommy Lloyd's first round failures on
it would be gone if they didn't happen.

437
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:45.480
Come on, we cover, we
cover a good team here, a

438
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.039
good program here. Right. But
the funny thing about it is these guys

439
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:52.640
suffer from the yips. They just
do if those first games aren't the yips

440
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:57.079
for any But even Tommy Lloyd worries
a board about that, lout, I'm

441
00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:00.000
sure worried about that again, Zaga. They don't worry about these first two

442
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.640
bucks exactly, they don't, but
certainly do they do. Okay, right,

443
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:06.039
Okay, there are some schools that
they just do. Okay, you're

444
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:08.680
exactly Kentucky now exactly. Well,
yeah, but Theirs. Yeah, but

445
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:11.799
that's those teams we don't cover,
so we see it here. It's just

446
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:17.000
weird the dynamic here Arizona. How
they worry about stuff that took good enough

447
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:19.920
to not worry about it, but
they do. Yeah, yeah, you

448
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:23.319
know, And I always wonder,
and I you know, you don't,

449
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:26.880
I don't know, but I did. Since some of the guys are talking

450
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:30.880
about the pressure, you almost wonder
now that it's been twenty three years and

451
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:36.079
counting since they've been to the Final
four, it's almost like it builds on

452
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:38.759
itself now where they're you know,
every year is going to be talk about

453
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:42.319
is THEIRS can't What did they say
this year? Like can you trust Arizona

454
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:45.640
in your in your pool? You
know, I mean stuff like that,

455
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.880
Like they have a reputation year in, year out, decade and decade out

456
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:53.319
of not achieving what they're expected to
achieve, and that's got to be tough

457
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:57.400
on the players. And then on
the same token, this program, you

458
00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:03.400
know, has much attention on it, fan support, you know, they're

459
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:06.599
all this stuff, and it's just
you know, more so than in almost

460
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:08.400
any other program in the West,
and they just you know, it's just

461
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:14.440
it's a lot and and so the
one one, one and out situations just

462
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:17.759
seemed to be not not a good
thing for them. And yeah, I

463
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:19.960
don't know if I could you,
because Jay and I find about this,

464
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:22.920
we've I've kind of got him off
the ledge with the with the blue Blood

465
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:27.720
stuff because people are talking talking less
about that now and more about the failures

466
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:32.759
that Arizona has because through the years
they're a higher seat than they get beat

467
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:37.559
by a team they should not get
beat by. Yeah, I think,

468
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.480
you know, Miller actually changed that
for most of his time until until they

469
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:45.400
lost that game to Wisconsin the second
time I think he had never lost in

470
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:49.079
his career is Avery and Arizona to
a team that was lower seeded. And

471
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:52.880
then of course they lost a bunch
which Stu stayed and Buffalo, et cetera.

472
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:56.200
And you know, and then Tommy
Lloyd's had three years in a row

473
00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:00.480
where that he's lost to a lower
seed. So you know, but you

474
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:02.559
could argue, well, he got
them a one and two seats, so

475
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:06.799
you know, at least there was
that or whatever. But it's yeah,

476
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:09.519
it's a it's a thing. And
you're right, You and I look at

477
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:14.000
it and we you know, we
see this program has been pretty good overall,

478
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:17.400
you know, for decades now,
and you know nationally, especially people

479
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:22.240
you know, casual fans who are
picking a poll and you know, Massachusetts

480
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.359
or someplace, so they're probably looking
at thinking why would I pick Arizona?

481
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:29.519
You know, because they lose every
year? Right, That's that's the reputation

482
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:34.480
that they do have, unfortunately for
them. Yeah. So so we've seen

483
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.640
a couple of guys jump into the
portal, you know, do we know

484
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:42.799
anything more other than that? Are
they just looking around to see if there's

485
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:45.599
something out there for them or do
you have a sense that they're actually gone?

486
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:51.160
Well, I mean it's hard to
say. You don't get to know

487
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:53.240
these guys that well, but I
get the sense they're both gone. I

488
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:57.240
you know, I talked to both
of them during the tournament because, as

489
00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:00.079
you guys know, it's the one
time of year where you can go in

490
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.039
the locker room and actually have a
conversation with guys and stuff like that,

491
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:06.960
and uh morowskis I mean, you
know, you never know. I only

492
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:08.720
talked to him a couple of times
this whole time here, and but he

493
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:14.880
didn't seem comfortable answering questions, you
know, didn't seem to be saying anything

494
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:17.559
other than I'm ready and I believe
in myself and we'll see, is what

495
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:21.839
he said. And so I just
thought, after that conversation that was before

496
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:24.160
the Pac ten Pac twelve tournament,
I thought, well, that doesn't sound

497
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:28.119
like a guy who's going to stick
around and then bor Veachen. And you

498
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.720
know, I think he's been a
you know, a good team guy or

499
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:32.880
you know, a real personal little
guy. Everybody likes him. You know,

500
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:37.880
he probably just wants to play more. And you know, I think

501
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.319
I think it's it's these are kind
of like the way I look at these

502
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:45.200
are kind of like the old old
fashioned transfers, the guys that just aren't

503
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.160
playing much, that want to go
somewhere and play more. And then now

504
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:52.279
with the NIL you have guys who
want more money and they're they're transferring to

505
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.599
But you know, I don't think
that that's you know, uh, driving

506
00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:59.519
these guys as much as they want
to play, and you know, so

507
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:02.880
yeah, I think they could both
find probably better fits for them. Okay,

508
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:07.160
A couple quick questions. We only
have a couple of minutes, Bruce,

509
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:10.360
so yes or no on Boswell sticking
around or not? And then I

510
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:14.960
have a quick question after that.
Yeah, I don't. I don't think

511
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:16.559
if I had to guess, I
don't think he does. It just seems

512
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:21.559
like it, certainly it doesn't seem
like him and Jade Bradley could come back

513
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:24.360
together. They both said nice things
about each other. They like to play

514
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:28.119
with each other. I think there's
probably some truth to that. But you

515
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.280
know, in the long run,
they all want to be, you know,

516
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:35.800
the best player they can be in
the best NBA prospect and probably you

517
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:38.519
know, it probably votes well for
Boswell to either go some well or he

518
00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:42.599
could you know, he could,
he could sign a pro deal somewhere and

519
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:45.039
you know, he might even get
drafted. He's you know, he's still

520
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:47.440
well, very well regarded with the
high up side. It just you know,

521
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:51.119
it's kind of ended on a on
a tough note here in Arizona for

522
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:52.679
him. Okay. And then the
last thing we were talking about this earlier,

523
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:58.000
J and I n I L how
does it apply to international players?

524
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:02.159
Well, well, it's it's complicated, but it basically is, you know,

525
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:07.480
the rule is it's a visa rule
where you can't take the you can't

526
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:12.400
take a job away from an American
or an American student. So that's why

527
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:15.320
you don't see the international guys at
autograph signs and you know, I'm doing

528
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:20.559
a gym, click ad or whatever, because they can't. If they do

529
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:22.599
that, they're in danger of losing
their student visa. And it's not incent

530
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:28.800
label to an ICE rule really.
And but what they can do is they

531
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:31.760
can get what's called passive income.
And that's that's basically the income that you

532
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:37.599
get from these collectives because the collectives
can pay the guys and say, okay,

533
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:42.559
it's a membership deal for fans to
pay into and then we'll have some

534
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.239
events and you can come. You
don't have to come, but if you

535
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:47.840
come, you know, then you're
you know, the collectives will pay you

536
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:52.440
if you're part of the organization.
So they can kind of get income that

537
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:55.320
way, because then you can argue
that they're not, you know, taking

538
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:59.440
the job away from anybody. But
it is really all a lot of gray

539
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:02.239
area. But that's the way everybody's
doing it. The international guys are getting

540
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:05.800
paid. It's like everybody else seems
like it this one. So let me

541
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:10.760
ask you, how does bollow do
that AC commercial, that one that's actually

542
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:15.239
really interesting. I don't know,
honestly, you know it Maybe that's something

543
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:19.320
I haven't even had time to look
into. But it's possible that he uh,

544
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:22.039
you know, I think guys that
are towards the end of their eligibility

545
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:23.960
aren't worried about it anymore. Maybe, you know, because I think Ben

546
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:29.239
Mathern did a he did an autograph
signing like in April before he left,

547
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:30.599
and it was kind of like he's
out the door. He doesn't care if

548
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:35.360
he loses his student visa because he's
not a student anymore. I don't know.

549
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:37.360
That's that is interesting though, I
don't I don't know right now.

550
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.440
I don't. Okay, Bruce,
thank you always good to talk to you.

551
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:45.920
I'll miss you until next November.
Yeah, well we had a good

552
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:51.199
time the last few weeks. Yeah, yeah, I'll talk to you.

553
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:54.480
I'll talk to you. We'll talk
to you. Hey, you know,

554
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:58.800
the season is the playing season's over, but there's a lot of there's a

555
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:00.719
lot going on in the next you're
right, Oh, you know, there'll

556
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:07.119
be tough to talk about Arizona basketball. Never sleeps. Thank you all right,

557
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:10.000
appreciate it, all right, thanks
Brice. There's interesting stuff. Yeah,

558
00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:14.000
you go to reverse. I had
reverse. But still there's still questions

559
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:16.119
about whether what what does it all
mean? Right, let's go back and

560
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:19.440
we'll kind of we'll take the break, come back and talk to you a

561
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:21.960
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want to give us a quick call, let us know what you're thinking.

609
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:50.639
Even the post mortem five days,
four days after the fact. Yeah,

610
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:57.360
you know, I got a little
on Saturday. You know when that when

611
00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:00.400
the got a little I got.
I got Saturday. I am misty,

612
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:04.000
but I got a Saturday morning.
I said, damn it, there's one

613
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:06.760
should be playing today. Yeah,
they should be playing today. I'm sitting

614
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:08.800
here instead, I went out and
did some yardworking crap. I mean it

615
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:15.159
was like Arizona Friday night. I
didn't even want to watch basketball. We

616
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:16.719
went to the baseball game, went
to the uf A baseball game at the

617
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:20.639
U c l A game and stayed
for the whole thing. I mean,

618
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:22.440
I was, I was keeping eye
on the games on my on my phone,

619
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:27.880
but I didn't even want to watch
basketball on Friday, and and uh

620
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:30.320
we we went, we went to
the U of A. You say,

621
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:35.000
how about that I should have been
breaking is U of A three walk off

622
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:37.800
wins against U c l A.
It's funny you say that, because actually

623
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:40.239
I've read that on Arizona Athletics website
today and I couldn't tell if I was

624
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:45.440
misreading it if it was the third
walk off three of the year, three

625
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:52.599
walkway in a row, an extra
inning homer on Thursday. Then on Friday,

626
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:57.280
uh, you know, they scored
a game tied, they score a

627
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:00.239
run in the bottom of the bottom
of the ninth to win it, and

628
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:04.719
then a walk off they were down
a run, walk off homer to run

629
00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:08.960
homer corre. Yeah, on on
Saturday, which I thought was it's incredible,

630
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:12.639
unbelievable. They're like in the top
three now right, Oh yeah,

631
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:16.599
in the standings. I mean they're
they're like sixteen and fifteen or something like

632
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:20.559
that. But they are at the
top of the pack pack twelve standings with

633
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:23.239
the three game sweep, but I'll
walk offs. We saw a Clark Candiatti

634
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:28.199
throw his dad was the knuckleball.
I'm trying to get him on the till.

635
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:30.280
Yeah. I was trying to explain
to my you know, because my

636
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:31.800
daughter, when my daughters were with
us, and I was like, his

637
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:35.960
dad threw a knuckleball. He's like
sixty miles an hour, and he was,

638
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:38.320
you know, he's thrown in the
nineties. He was throwing. We

639
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:42.599
thought he was gonna get the immaculate
inning in the first inning because he threw

640
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:45.519
six pitches six two strikeouts, and
then he threw a strike to the next

641
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:50.400
batter and then on the next pitch
the guy grounded out. But we thought

642
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:53.199
he I was I haven't explained what
immaculate inning is. So he he was

643
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:57.159
throwing the knuckleball or no, no, no, he throws gas. He

644
00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:59.239
throws gas. Yeah, I heard
he was pretty good. I wasn't trying

645
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:01.239
to get the dad on. Uhs, I covered him. I'm sure you

646
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:07.639
did too. Excuse me for spring
training. Yeah, and this is all.

647
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:09.360
If we get him on, we'll
explain the story. But you know,

648
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:13.360
spring training, I absolutely I thought
I'd like, but I hated it

649
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:15.760
because the guys were jerks of them. So I said, who wanted to

650
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:19.719
the Indians is a good guy,
so you can just go up to me.

651
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.119
And he talked to you, well, he told me he was,

652
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:25.880
so I went to him a lot. Yeah, you're right. I I

653
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:30.239
had to deal with Wilio Franco.
I have my stories with him too,

654
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:37.559
Wilio Franco mal Hall two, two
big giant steaming piles of two guys to

655
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:43.480
Ken Cammeranini was for me to but
but who frank you say that because me

656
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:45.760
too, my all time favorite guy
during during spring training the year of Phil

657
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:51.880
Nekro got traded to the to the
Indians. He was awesome. He was

658
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:54.880
He was just a nice old guy, just so appreciated where he was.

659
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:59.000
Well we go back in the day. But so of those stories, what

660
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:01.440
was your kind of you? That
story with Phil? I love, Yeah,

661
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:04.960
that was my that That was the
funnest story because I, I,

662
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:07.280
you know, feel Negro by that
time he had been around a long time

663
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:08.920
and he was a legend. Yeah, and he was. He was kind

664
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:15.280
of the first knuckleballer that was really
good. Yeah, right, I mean

665
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:17.559
because he stuff yeah, that was
his joke. That was a joke,

666
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:22.079
you know, but but you know
he uh you know, so he was

667
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:28.000
the knuckleballer of that of the time, and so he was great. I

668
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:30.880
loved talking to him. Jay Bell, who was who was barely come he

669
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:35.400
was nineteen years old, ended up
playing short stuff for the Diamondbacks on the

670
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:37.840
World Series team. But I remember
talking to him and he was awesome.

671
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:42.840
But he was he was happy to
talk to anybody, right, So he

672
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:45.800
was very cool. You know.
There was some guy, there were some

673
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:47.800
really good guys. Let me go
throw two at you. Uh Rod carew

674
00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:52.280
uh. I think he was not
playing, he was visiting the clubhouse whatever.

675
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:55.639
So that was great. And then
Jim Abbott, because to me,

676
00:44:55.760 --> 00:45:00.039
that story is on uh yeah doing
what he did at that level. Yeah

677
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:04.719
one arm, yeah, or you
know one arm no, yeah, yeah,

678
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.400
with one hand, had one hand. I'm trying to think. You

679
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.840
know, there was some you know, they're generally good guys, but but

680
00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:14.559
but there were you know, there
were a couple that you just you just

681
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:16.840
didn't go talk to them because you
knew you weren't going to get anything out

682
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:21.400
of it. But they treated you
poor. Yeah, you know, I

683
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:23.920
had I liked it. I had
fun. I had a lot of fun.

684
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:29.480
It was an easy job during that
assignment if you got yeah. But

685
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:31.199
you know, then the game started
and you would do I would do stories

686
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:35.719
on the other guys, you know, talk to you know a lot of

687
00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:37.440
you know, big leaguers from the
other teams that that I talked to.

688
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:42.960
That was that was great. That
was also when I was covering them that

689
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:46.119
I saw Will Clark just scream at
a kid and I wanted, I wanted

690
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:50.360
to write about it, and and
I didn't. But you know, kid,

691
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:51.960
you know, he's talking to somebody, and the kid went up and

692
00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:54.519
asked them for an autograph, and
he just like a six year old kid,

693
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:59.679
and he screamed at him like if
I if I'm hit that kid's dad,

694
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.559
I'm I'm dropping Will Clark with the
Need of the Nuts in no time

695
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:07.440
flat. But I wasn't his dead. Let's what people don't talk about those

696
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:09.559
stories that we write about exactly,
you know, exactly. Okay, if

697
00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:13.159
you want to call with step seven
minutes five two oh four one, six

698
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:16.360
seventy four forty, we'd like to
hear from you. Did you have theres

699
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:20.199
no winning it? Good luck with
that. Well, let's talk about that.

700
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:24.480
The the eye on the ball show
bracket, let's not talk about let's

701
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:30.360
talk about it. Let's talk about
it. There's the the join the entry

702
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:36.000
under I two so on twenty four, which is me is in the lead.

703
00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:40.320
So the glitch that you say all
fixed. Ye, So then uh

704
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:44.679
entry, I know who it is? An entry under the name of R.

705
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:49.719
Dobbs, as in Robert Dobbs,
as in Bob Dobbs is in second.

706
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:52.840
We we're the only two who can
win it. Okay, we both

707
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:59.199
got Purdue and Yukon in the championship
game because everybody, everybody's only got purduer.

708
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:01.159
You showbody got anything. We don't
have to buy anybody lunch or dinner

709
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:07.039
or whatever unless that guy beat you. If if Purdue beats if Purdue beats

710
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:10.679
Yukon for the championship, where yeah, he will wink, he will wind.

711
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:15.800
Yeah, but that's the only guy
who because everybody who's still at the

712
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:21.679
top of the standings has either Purdue
or Yukon. So since since the two

713
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:24.199
of us are highest in the standings, I have I have Yukon, our

714
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:28.239
Dobs has Purdue. We're the only
ones who can win the pool. So

715
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:32.400
we're up there. I'd prefer to
kind of have somebody else win it so

716
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:36.159
that we can go to dinner.
Maybe we'll take the second place guy.

717
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:40.320
Anyways, the second that guy's not
even here. He's in somewhere. He's

718
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:44.159
in California, so we'd have to
send him. We didn't do that last

719
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:46.400
year. We had the chest.
We offered two people last year, but

720
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:52.719
they never Yeah. Yeah, So
anyway, so that's that's the only bracket

721
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:54.440
that I'm doing well. There's only
twenty four people in it, so it's

722
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:59.599
like and it's not like, you
know, the world the world on fire

723
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:05.079
with my I'm partly in the top
fifteen, twenty twenty fourth. I don't

724
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:07.440
know. I just I just turned. I just closed it. Don't worry.

725
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:12.119
But I don't need to know the
white excuston me. Have you have

726
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:15.320
you otherwise? I know the pain
in the in the butt of covering Arizona

727
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:19.880
and the losses and stuff like that. Have you liked the tournament? Uh

728
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:22.920
this year? Yeah? Uh yeah, yeah yeah, except when Houston's guy

729
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:27.840
went down, Shed went down.
They've been great. The thing about it,

730
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:30.000
Jay, you know this. You
know this. So we watch the

731
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:32.599
games right when we're there, but
when we're not watching the games, we're

732
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:35.719
writing. Yeah, so we can't
watch the game. We don't get to

733
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:38.199
see the games, and then we
can't. I drove all day Friday and

734
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:40.679
we got to listen on the radio. You don't get to see them.

735
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:45.360
So it's it's you watch very minimal
unless so your team is out and then

736
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:47.159
you get to And I on purpose
didn't watch on Friday. But yeah,

737
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:50.840
I know, I know what you're
saying. It's a seven hour drive and

738
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:52.960
you got to listen to it on
the radio and you don't get the full

739
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:55.119
effect, but you know. And
I was also trying to explain to my

740
00:48:55.199 --> 00:49:08.000
family that the atmosphere, the excitement
at the Elit eight is way more exciting,

741
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:12.400
palpable, whatever. Then at the
Final four, when you go into

742
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:15.599
this big stage, you're going to
this big stadium and it's like everybody seems

743
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:20.119
so far away and it's hard to
especially in Phoenix, right and it's hard

744
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:22.440
to have that you know, what
are the fans are on top of you

745
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:27.039
and they're screaming and they're yelling,
and you know the Elit eights where you

746
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:31.880
know that you know with two teams
gone, that fans of the other teams

747
00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:36.840
went and bought all those tickets,
and so the the arenas are half and

748
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:39.280
half basically, Well, did you
see the pictures. I think I see

749
00:49:39.320 --> 00:49:44.199
the pictures on the lead eight from
from La. It was not nobody there.

750
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:46.559
It was half full probably yeah.
Wow. And and that Thursday,

751
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:50.800
We've talked about this before and I
said specifically, oh, Arizona has an

752
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:52.400
advantage. No it doesn't. Didn't. They had a lot of fans there,

753
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:58.320
But what did it do? Darns? And everybody watching that game who's

754
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:00.440
not an Arizona fans rooting for the
other the other team. But like in

755
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:06.960
Vegas last year, you know it
was a Yukon, Gonzaga was in the

756
00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:10.039
Yukon U c l A. I
can't remember who's in the in the Elite

757
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:14.679
eight in Vegas last Oh, I
know it is Yukon. I can't remember

758
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:20.519
who they beat. Anyways, it
was damned it was full. Now maybe

759
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:23.639
it was locals, it was Gonzaga. Well there you go, you know,

760
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:27.440
and there were fans there who you
know, got the tickets and it

761
00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:30.480
was jammed. And I remember,
you know, I remember nine remember the

762
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:34.880
pond being full for that Arizona oh
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

763
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:38.679
because it was the second game Thursday
night. Thursday's game was okay, had

764
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:43.480
a lot of fans Ubay fans,
but it's like Vegas. They were waiting

765
00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:47.079
for Saturday. Yeah there Saturday,
and it never came. It didn't happen

766
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:51.079
for him, Yeah, because you
know, why would you go spend Thursday,

767
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:53.360
Friday and Saturday when you can go
Friday, spend Saturday at the game.

768
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:58.039
I mean, if if otherwise liked
the tournament. I liked watching North

769
00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:02.079
Carolina State beat Duke yesterday, but
then got to the end of the game

770
00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:07.239
and I thought that game beca is
producing to be horrible game. Now maybe

771
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:09.920
North Carolina State. I just don't
know that North Carolina State has the chops

772
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:15.559
to to compete with Purdue. They
might the fourteen games they won nine in

773
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:21.719
a row as you know, uh
elimination games. I don't know that the

774
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:29.679
big the big dude for for North
Carolina State is going to have that kind

775
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:32.679
of success against Zach Edy. Do
you see that Zach Edy cut down the

776
00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:36.440
nets withou kidding on the ladder?
Did you see what he said? Yeah

777
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:38.480
after oh yeah I did, and
f bomb on the thing. Well that's

778
00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:43.960
Yeah, that's him. In addition, he kind of he didn't say anything

779
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:46.480
wrong or said they were passed that. He also just sounded like they had

780
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:49.840
won it all. Yeah. She
was like, well, I don't care

781
00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:51.920
what people say. We're winners.
You know, we're winners, and what

782
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:53.480
we do here we win. And
like just his messaging, I was like,

783
00:51:53.480 --> 00:52:00.559
well you have another game or play
game from Arizona stuff for the first

784
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:02.079
they got to the final four now
and there. I mean, ye,

785
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:06.960
what they have to fight is just
being happy with getting to the Well,

786
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:09.320
they could be the Virginia of two
years ago, whatever it was. I

787
00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:15.480
mean, I I think that that
would be a that'll be a war if

788
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:21.519
the two of them play, which
I think they will. I don't know.

789
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:23.960
I still have a hard time seeing
Yukon losing. But because you've seen

790
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:27.639
the games, I think the one
thing I was gonna say, you haven't

791
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.039
seen a standout player, but you
have. It's the North Carolina state guy.

792
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:34.519
Typically this time of year, you
see who is that dude? Who

793
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:37.119
is that guy? And that's that
guy guy, But he's the only guy.

794
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:43.280
True. Obama has the shooters,
but it has a few shooters who

795
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:45.960
sears or whatever they are. I
mean, in terms of the stars of

796
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:52.079
the tournament, it's probably is just
DJ Burns ed clinging serious, I mean,

797
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:54.760
I guess serious. Yeah, but
you kindlady knew those dudes. They're

798
00:52:54.800 --> 00:53:00.000
not some dude. Oh Burns is
like, who's heard of that guy before?

799
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:02.800
Four nine games ago? Not any
There's not any new faces except for

800
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:08.320
Burns exactly. And he's a good
story. He owns his own vetting machines.

801
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:15.119
No, it's his own personal business
entrepreneur mission. Someone told him about

802
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:17.039
it and he started to make money
of those. I'm gonna go get me

803
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:21.000
a candybar right now. I'm gonna
call him. Apparently he put some of

804
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:25.039
his teammates onto the trick. See
him on Saturday. Okay, all right,

805
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:29.920
Uh, let's get out of here. Good day, Our condolences again

806
00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:35.039
to the the Brave family. Very
sad, and well we'll move on.

807
00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:38.159
We'll get news from Cody about a
scholarship fun. Yeah. Well, we'll

808
00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:42.320
give you some details when that comes
along. So thanks everybody for being here,

809
00:53:42.320 --> 00:53:43.440
and we'll be back tomorrow.