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The vaccine, the human guinea pig
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the the bill gates like testing.
It's almost like this this stuff they're doing

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is so evil. It's almost like
if you had a video game and the

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point of the video game was to
be as evil as possible to as many

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black people in Africa as possible,
like making and then and then making it

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so that they're like trying to get
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That's that's the most insane evil thing
man. Like, never mind the like

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tenfold increase in population from human aid, et cetera. Never never mind the

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vaccination experiments and the aids and all
this other stuff like the icing on the

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cake. Like that's how you know
someone's really evil is when they're it's not

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just the pragmatic thing. It's not
just like trying to bring about some you

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know, future world scenario. It's
not like, oh, we need to

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do this to get to the mean. The means justify the end. We

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have to get here. We have
to get to the future, and injecting

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these blacks is very important to do. Like, you know, it's absolutely

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evil. When he's like, okay, now we're gonna make poop poop cakes.

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Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show. I'm your guest host Jay Dyer.

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You know, I was on here
a couple of months ago for the

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first time, and I said some
strange, enigmatic, mysterious phrases I prophesized.

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I said, test tube, gub
gub, snailman, micromachines, and

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some people were mystified by this,
But I was predicting the future. I

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was predicting the one, the only, the legend of trolling. Mister Samuel

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Hyde is joining us today. And
before I mentioned that, before I get

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into that, I wanted to say
that, you know, I thought that

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I was a legend of trolling.
At one time, when I was in

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high school, we actually arranged a
kind of a a black operation, you

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could say, in high school high
school black ops, where we wanted to

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upseat the existing order by electing a
beautiful slow boy to a class president.

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And that's a true story. The
cheerleaders, mean girls brigade were curious,

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and I thought that I had mastered
something of trolling, but I realized that

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in the big leagues I was nothing. I myself was a test tube gub

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gub Snailman micro machine of trolling.
And today I have the master, the

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probably the as Alex said, top
of the totem pole of comedy for everyone,

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perhaps forty an under. Mister Sam, Hi, Sam, are you

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there? Can you see me?
Hey? I can see Can you hear

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me? I can hear you.
Yes, that beautiful smoky voices coming through.

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I gotta finish reading. I gotta
figure. I'm on the last page

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of my favorite book right now.
Hold on, is it? God?

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Damn man? One second, let
me just change the choose background effect.

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There we go. Okay, I
just had to. I got to finish

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reading the last page of my favorite
book. Just kidding. Oh d oh,

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my god, thank you for saying
these By the way, they're veryl

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told me on the Alex Jones Show. Is this this is they'd be.

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They'd be more entertaining if they weren't
so uh packed with disturbing realities. One

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second, let me just get back
into Elon Musk's private AI chamber. Okay,

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hey, I'm back. We're using
teleportation now. I don't know if

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you know that's real, but teleportations
there with the kombox. Yes, we're

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we're researching new ways to comb new
unnatural uh freakish ways to genetically modify your

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testicles to make them, uh make
your orgasm ten times more powerful. This

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is sorry. Go ahead, slow
down, slow down, You're gonna blow

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your minds. Tell us, let's
get back to the origins. What are

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the origins of Sam Hyde, his
influences, his comedic powles. Where where

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do you come from? Who inspired? This is not a joke. I

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seriously, seriously just swallowed this wrong. One second, give me like one

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second. Okay, all better,
So I'm really sorry about that unprofessional.

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Well, let me ask you something
because I need to know before we before

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we do battle and debate, because
I'm an atheist technological I'm just kidding,

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but I want to I want to
size you up and know I seriously took

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that in the lungs. What kind
of man you are? So I want

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to know. Are you a birtsbe
strawberry man or are you a vanilla bean

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man? Are you more of a
classic man? This is important, by

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the way. Or are you a
honey man? Or wait, are you

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a peppermint man? Are you a
strawberry man? That's the dupe? Are

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you pumpkin spice? Are you more
of a cucumber mint style, or would

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you call yourself wild cherry. Now
the thing people don't know about wild cherry,

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it stains your lips red. That's
a price you might have to be

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willing to pay because it is technically
the best flavor. Now, I'll tell

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you my answer. What's your answer? God, your gut. My immediate

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reaction is that that soy meme face. But probably my fiance does lip gloss.

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So I just used whatever lip gloss
she's got laying around. So no

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birds bees for me. Solid answer, solid answer, lip gloss sometimes superior

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case. I'm cucumber mint myself.
Hold on a second, I knew it.

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Yeah, cucumbers. I'm sorry,
I'm not I'm not sure I shouldn't.

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I'm a little nervous right now in
front of this many eyeballs. Sam,

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tell us your origins and your influence. Where do you come from?

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I don't know, man, I've
been my I guess for influences. You

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know the show Wonder Shows. You
hear Wonder Shows. I think if there

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was one comedic influence that did did
the most for me, it would be

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Wonder Shows. And there was also
a collection of cartoons back in the day

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called liquid television, and both of
those I think it's I think those are

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I think those are important because the
the aesthetics, to me, has always

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been more interesting than the content,
which is weird to say, but like

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the kind of you know, the
kind of vapor wave stuff you do that

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like i've I put I put a. I think the dressing, the sort

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of the stylization of things is there's
an importance there. It's and it's easy

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to get like wrapped up in in
going going with aesthetics in a way that's

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like vain nurse or doesn't have substance
behind it. I think, I think

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taking combining substance with like finally honed
aesthetics has been what's always kind of interested

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me. So most most of my
influences are aesthetic influences. Eighties anime,

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nineties anime, that kind of stuff. Yeah, I remember you used to

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watch liquid Television and I was.
I was always entranced by aon Flux and

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she was always like, you know, doing things with nipples. It was

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an obsession with nipples in that show. And they always worded me out even

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though I love the art, but
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television was that it was like a
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actually creative, you know, stuff
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There's not there's nothing. There's nothing
like that. Like it was there

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for a while, it went away. And I see you, yes,

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as definitely a successor to that is
that you went to art school. You

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know, you did this kind of
stuff. You had to deal with the

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art hose at art school. You
did some great comedy about them art hose.

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How did you get through article without
going crazy? I think that's when

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I started to think seriously about the
distribution of resources and about the like the

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sort of the puerile notion that every
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old, think when they start to
think about government and how things should be

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distributed, and seeing the like inefficiency
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a what a scam? What a
scam? College is? That's that was

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a big formative thing for me.
It was like living through the scam and

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watching my dad blow two hundred and
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learn on YouTube. Basically, Yeah, I had had a similar experience.

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I didn't blow that much. Wow. I did blow quite a bit though

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on grad school. And in the
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I'm paying this d bag liberal guy
to tell me that I can get a

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piece of paper and that he who
hates me will allow me to go and

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talk about the things that I actually
knew better than that guy, you know

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what I mean. It's like,
this is totally a scam and brainwashing.

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Boy, it's such a it's such
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amount of money. You know,
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just one business, I mean,
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to start, but that's like,
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sorry, that startup capital for f
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that's across the across the entire country, all those people. I mean,

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if you want to help, if
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if you want to do good,
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at the look at the waste of
the waste of money that's happening in colleges

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and think about what that what that
money could do. I mean, you

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know, Dwight Eisenhower has that his
his quote about man, I'm too scatter

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brained for this podcasting, So this
is one reason why I don't do it.

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But when he was when he was
reveling against the milllitary industrial complex and

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talking about how you know, one
B fifty two bomber is like the cost

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of a hospital, that kind of
thing. It's just like, there's so

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many people who are concerned with helping
helping society, but they're unwilling to like

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look at to look for inefficiency in
these hallowed institutions. Before we get to

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Paradigm Shift, which was was kind
of an epic troll, I want to

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I want to take us out to
the break and mention that if you want

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to follow Sam's where you can go
to md E dot tv md dot tv

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to get access to his content.
My work is at Jay's Analysis dot com.

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You can find my books, my
subscription and all that there. And

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when we come back, we're going
to get into some of the most epic

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trolling probably ever. If you've seen
The Yes Men, you can think of

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those kinds of trolling events, but
I think this one even topped that one

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by making fun of the whole ted
talk phenomena. So when we come back,

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we get into that one, like, welcome back to the Ox Jones

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Show. I'm your guest host Jay
Dyer. Final album with our good friend

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Sam Hyde. Uh. Sam.
You know when I when I first saw

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Ted Talks, you know, back
in the early two thousands. I remember

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seeing the first one actually was not
bad. It was something about like symbols

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and geometry and nature, and I
was like, oh, this is pretty

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cool. And then I click on
the next Ted Talk and it's like some

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witchy woman saying, uh, we
have more more men. Uh, we

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have more women graduating from college than
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man and and and then I have
to click on the next one. It's

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Bill Gates and he's talking about we
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gotta get dunk this epic troll of
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Can you tell us about that.
I'm sure you've I'm sure you've talked about

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this before. The Bill Gates's fixation
on getting people to drink pee and eat

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their eat their drink their dooty water. That's so insane. I'll get to

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your question, how we're gonna make
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this kind of stuff. And like
if you dude, the here's this is

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the thing. All right, I'm
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as racist as most people are.
I'm probably I'm probably as racist as most

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black people are. And there there
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are like mind blowing, like this
the vaccine, the human guinea pig stuff

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in Africa is so insane, and
the the bill gates like testing. It's

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almost like this this stuff they're doing
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you had a video game and the
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as evil as possible to as many
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making and then and then making it
so that they're like trying to get us

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so they're drinking urine. And that's
that's the most insane evil thing man.

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Like never mind the like tenfold increase
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Never never mind the vaccination experiments and
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the icing on the cake. Like
that's how you know someone's really evil is

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when they're it's not just the pragmatic
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about some you know, future world
scenario. It's not like, oh,

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we need to do this to get
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We have to get here. We
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injecting these blacks is very important to
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absolutely evil when he's like, Okay, now we're gonna make poo poop cakes.

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It's it's intentionally puerile. It's an
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dog in the face, you know, his face in the in the mess.

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So I don't mean to appear callous
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that it's so insane and twisted,
like it's something sounds real, it sounds

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great, it's not. It's not
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it's beyond it's beyond that. Like
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wrote something like that, you'd be
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I don't want to read this anymore. Like there's no great there's not that

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many ideas like this in great science
fiction. It's just so insane anyway,

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So sorry, gil gil Bates had
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did your troll of the Ted talk. Can you tell us how that came

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about. It's just like you know, watching Ted talks, because there's some

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good Ted Talks. It's like there's
all there's usually something interesting you can glean

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from most of them. There's there's
always something someone will say something that's interesting

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and it'll be worth skimming through for
twenty minutes on double speed or whatever.

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But just the it's the sort of
reddit reddit atheist science scientism, like taking

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taking all of of all of human
knowledge and all of the scientific method,

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balling it up into this like cool
little robot guy and for science, for

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eureka, and like fetishizing and like
people who have people who don't have the

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ability to go through a scientific paper. Not saying I have that ability either,

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but people who just have no understanding
and they look at these like gleaming

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the promise of gleaming rockets and the
promise of tasty vaccines and thinking that like

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this is uh, this is the
new God or something like that. And

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that's sort of the vibe that I
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fruity sounding name Christopherus something like that, but he comes on stage with

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like an Asian style, no no
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when he makes an appearance on stage, when the when the TED talk is

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interesting enough and important enough and high
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and like thank the person, he's
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kind of air of humility, like
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he'll come up and like take take
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precious this is the most precious Handshaw. You are you are a prophet,

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you are leading us in the new, the new way, that kind of

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thing. So I just I just
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for some kind of prank like that. I know, to be fair,

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what I did was a ted X
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so it was less thoroughly vetted,
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It still worked. Yeah, I
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this was not that long ago.
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said you look like I built Leon
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the bunky on Trotsky Sam Hyde there
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you have million dollars Streame. Do
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the cancelation because you were like the
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for comedy. You you you were
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and all that. They went for
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white power, but like white group
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little apologizing the way that the way
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rate number two for not just adult
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impressive, but for like late night
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with the rankings were, but we
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of the network, Michael Azo,
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to shoot one hundred more episodes.
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We're going to do one hundred more
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stoked on it, and you had
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with what five ten followers and retweets, simply send out a few emails and

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everyone just collapsed and capitulated. Yeah, it was it was I think probably

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what did it was Bernstein directly getting
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Zucker, the guy that runs whatever, what's turner, what's above turn?

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Yeah? Yeah, it was the
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at the network getting us Yank did
the defense? Did you? There was

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a there's a phone call where you
I had a conversation with that guy that

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was pretty pretty funny. But and
you never did characterize yourself as all right,

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it was just sort of this label
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want. Welcome back to the Ox
Jones Show. I'm your guest host Jay

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Dyer Jason alsos dot com. I
have this beautiful fashion bag that I often

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shop with and wear as I go
across campuses, and uh, it's this

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beautiful face. I think, is
this is this missing Mamma hide? Is

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that mama hide? Or who is
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that's uh, that's me at a
moment of high bloat and probably probably

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high estrogen as well. So if
you want to call that mom my hide,

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you're welcome to And I do,
I do resemble my mom and that

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yeah, thank you. You were
asking about the alt right thing. I

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think alt right is one of these
terms that's so it's such a linguistic weapon.

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on the meaning of whatever the person
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it's I don't think it's unfair to
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think that white people should have some
sense of identity and should stop being such

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pussies, and that we should stop
pretending like like race isn't real. I

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don't have any sort of hatred.
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one thing that was the place they
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is crazy. The place they went
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that we had swastikas in the graphics
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show I worked on those. I
put blood, sweat and tears into those

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ground effics. There were It's like
some of the best work I've ever done,

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and we were forced to censor them
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show. So you can only really
see the final versions by looking at my

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upload of them on YouTube. And
there are no swastikas in any of the

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graphics for the show. So that's
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names. I deconstruct films and symbolism, and I will point out, you

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know, squares and compasses and you
know kind of esoteric Masonic symbols and film,

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and then these people will say,
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It doesn't exist however for you any
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exactly, Like symbolism suddenly becomes very
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the one thing we did is we
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main in the main world peace logo. That is true, as you can

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see, what is the meaning of
life? What is the meaning of death?

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And the reason this is that is
this is like high level serious satire.

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She can make jokes about whatever she
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just subtle things, right. I
mean, you have undergone a very bizarre

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situation where a meme of you and
I think you were probably like the first

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comedian to really become a meme,
and then the meme takes on a life

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of its own. What was that
experience like? It's not as not as

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shocking as people think. It really
doesn't affect affect my life all that much,

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these shooter memes. I have gotten
a few visits from the FBI,

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but there have always been I explained
to them how how computers work, and

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I explain to them that it's possible
to make a to make a Facebook account

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with someone else's name, and then
they usually they usually stand down, not

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to mention the fact that I tower
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them in our interactions. So they
have we got this buff guy here looks

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like on Trotzky, is you got
like you got? Like the first time

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they sent this guy that was looked
like Colombo like he was. He actually

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struck me as a as a sharp, sharp guy, but he was like

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a little guy in the seven.
Yeah. Then the second the second time

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they sent two big dudes that I
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standing there flexing as I answered their
questions. Let me can I can I

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give some shout outs to Jay before
I forget here? Yeah, shouts people

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on. Shout out to Frank Hassel, check him out on YouTube, Shout

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out to Big Flame. Joey Instagram, j x x y y Jet,

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Neptune Concept Graphics, killing It rains
FX. It's a short list. I'm

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almost through it. H W.
Girardi on Instagram, Derek Mave's B nine

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Tumor, Jesse Yellen, Joe Rogan
and Can't Bot and Weking Ball, can't

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Bot and wecking Ball check him out. Let's keep going here? What else?

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What else we got to talk about? Let's talk about the great reset,

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because this whole idea of have you
heard of this happy talism thing.

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This this like gay version of of
capitalism even more gayer, where it's like,

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now we're going to focus on on
an economics of making people happy.

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The u N is going to replace
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Yeah, then that sound good.
And this fits into this great reset where

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they're going to replace uh, like
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That's what they want to bring.
Has anyone has anyone coined the term

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circle jerk economy yet? Can we
start using that where it goes apparently?

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Okay, No, that sounds that
sounds fun. So you rent your stuff

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and you kind of like share the
land and stuff like that. Okay,

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Yeah, you want to have a
car? I didn't need it anyway,

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I didn't want it anyway. I
want I want to as long as the

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as long as the car that I'm
renting can somehow benefit the impoverished people that

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uh throw glass outside my building and
make it so that I have to get

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new tires and new windows couple of
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them somehow, I'm happy for that. I love it. Now you have

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a great reset. Yeah, I'll
bring this up because you know, we

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we know you. You're you're a
fan of Stephan. Of course, Stephan

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just got deep platform. And one
thing that you talk about in some of

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your videos that's actually pretty practical.
I wanted to get to because you do

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have some good videos that are advice
to young guys. And if you want

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to mention some of that, because
those are pretty popular as well. If

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you want to what's some what's advice
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step one is get you some of
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Okay, you might need some of
those. Dude. I was so

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I was so lost because I had
a h My father wasn't like negligent or

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anything, but he just wasn't like
he wasn't a man in the sense of

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like of you know, the sense
that we would we would use it.

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lack of masculinity nowadays and an absence of

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male role models, and it's,
uh, it's a crazy, crazy looking

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landscape. And that's why I think
people like Stefan. Stefan gets a lot

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of a lot of people beefing with
him for being culty and dogmatic and whatnot,

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and there's people that want to pick
bones with Jordan Peterson over being kind

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of basic. Can I say the
B word basic bitch? Is that allowed

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people people think, you know,
Jordan Peterson's kind of a basic bitch guy,

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and he's also you know whatever whatever
weakness with the painkillers and whatnot.

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to emulate them or figure out,
you know, get the get the old

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wisdom, the wisdom of old,
and bring that into your own life because

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it still applies. We're still in
We're still in a battle. It's a

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an info war. It's a battle
for the mind. It's not a bloody

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trench warfare battle. But we're in. We're in a battle for the soul

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of humanity right now. So you
better start acting like it and get some

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of that some of that old son
Su wisdom. Yeah. I remember when

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I was mired in student debt back
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Alex I listened to stuff on at
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about being an entrepreneur, and I
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you can't start your own business.
That's for some other weird CEO dude in

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Silicon Valley or something. And then
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like, I'm just going to try
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that than be a wage slave.
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And so I think there's a lot
of wisdom in trying to get young guys

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to think about being an entrepreneur.
And you promote that a lot. I

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really appreciate, but appreciate that about
what you talk about. It's getting harder

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with the tech stuff, but you've
been successful still. I got something important

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here, Jay. The only real
resource young young men nowadays are so destroyed.

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They have their hormones, are fed
up. They have, you know,

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no money. Everybody anybody I talked
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or whatever. I'm like, the
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do you have saved up? They
have two hundred dollars, Like nobody has,

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nobody has nothing, nobody has any
skills, et cetera. The only

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thing young people have now is time. Time is this It's it's cliche to

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say what a golden, important,
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but it's also true. You can't
overstate the importance of time. So going

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into going into into business, being
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some sort of skill like uh,
taking taking your time and trading it,

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trading it to somebody else for a
barely over minimum wage. And if it's

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if it's not getting you skills,
if it's not advancing what you want to

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do for yourself in the world,
it's it's uh, it's such a colossal

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waste when you think about that.
If you if you're working at Target,

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if you work at Petco, if
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you should imagine yourself on a on
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and imagine just know that that's what
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with what you've been given. If
you work it, if you work

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a day job, you are burning
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I hear that beautiful piano music and
I feel like I'm Matthew McConaughey flying

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my link and I being a spade
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I think that's that beautiful music from
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Staler. There's also she she's a
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Ex huge me. I'm sorry I
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that stuff. There, Sam Hyde, he's with me here on the Outcome

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show. Welcome back, Sam.
We were talking about men, what it

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is to be a man. You
say things like simple stuff, lift weights,

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get a skill, get a trade, get it gone, go crazy,

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become insane, become desperate, go
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say that, right, are you
crazy? I can't say that. No.

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I think, uh, when you
first when you first start getting woke,

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when you first start learning that the
the world is this sick hall of

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mirrors. Uh, it's it's tempting
to get feverishly caught up in the various

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little plots and schemes and attempts to
unravel the unravel them. Which is it?

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Which is important work. But I
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by that and they get sort of
uh, sort of fatalistic and black pilled,

406
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:26.880
as they say. And I think
for anyone who ever ever gets black

407
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:30.680
pilled or overwhelmed or or whatever.
Yeah, pape silver right the silvia right

408
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:34.720
there, I think it's it's one
of the most radical things you can do

409
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:41.160
is take ownership over your own little
circle, your own you know, yourself,

410
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.799
your family, your friends, becoming
uh treating treating that like it's this

411
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:49.200
world problem problem that you want to
solve, and uh step step one to

412
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:57.960
that is learning about masculinity and getting
That's that's why people like Stefan Malinu and

413
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:03.000
Jordan Peterson are so attacked, even
though none of what they say is really

414
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.400
you know, insane or racist or
what have you. It's just what they're

415
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:14.599
saying is radical because it's it's effective
potentially in uh fixing the world. I

416
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:18.759
think people need to uh just get
that, you know, get that masculinity.

417
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:25.799
Homie. Do you feel like comedy
is like is it dead now?

418
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:32.880
I mean I remember ten years ago
I would I would watch Mitch Hebberg and

419
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:34.359
comedians. I thought, oh yeah, stand up. It's it's kind of

420
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:37.960
funny. And then it's like,
in the last ten years, stand up

421
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:44.200
is almost itself another vehicle for social
justice. And you got these yeah Hannah,

422
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:48.319
Hannah what's her name? Trans comedian
and she's just propped up because of

423
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:56.240
like some weird you know fixation that
even yeah is even big ones, even

424
00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:00.160
great ones. Is that a man
right there that we're looking at. I

425
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:05.599
thought that was a lesbian. Well, if he kills Samantha Hyde, then

426
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:08.000
you would probably be welcomed back,
right if you do. That person is

427
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:12.519
so disturbing to look at, I
probably would. That's a good tactic right

428
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.079
there. I tried. I tried
to being black, but nobody, nobody.

429
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:20.880
I didn't take enough met melotonin or
melot melanotan too to convince people,

430
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:22.759
you know, comedy, comedy is
dead. I mean for comedy to be,

431
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:28.559
for comedy to be an art form
that's like worthwhile, it has to

432
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:30.880
it has to be subversive. It
has to be the underdog, it has

433
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:37.319
to be the voice, the voice
of truth, of truth that's like uncomfortable

434
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:43.200
to speak. And now the version
of truth that's uncomfortable to speak is uh

435
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:47.400
f Trump. You know what I
mean? In one way or another.

436
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:52.279
It's whether it's availed in a sophisticated
way or whether it's just straight up uh,

437
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:55.960
look at Donald Trump. He's so
fat, he's got no penis.

438
00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:00.480
He must have a short penis,
or whether it's something more sophisticated, like

439
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:06.240
like uh, some of the stuff
that Dave Chappelle has done recently. It's

440
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:09.480
it's all f Trump in some way
or another. So no, it's it's

441
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:15.000
it's a wasteland. Yeah, it's
and and there's a there's a similar similar

442
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:19.640
parallel in journalism. Journalism used to
be supposedly this thing that was there to

443
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:23.519
keep eyes on the establishment and to
critique and you know, chase after stories.

444
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:28.960
You know, supposedly the we have
this idea of journalists going after mobsters

445
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:31.480
back in the fifties and they would
pursue the truth to their own you know,

446
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:37.519
altruistic hand where Yeah, and now
now it is the establishment now journalism

447
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:42.839
now, the political establishment bends the
need to the to the media, uh

448
00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:45.839
a lot of the time. And
now it's just hand in hand. It's

449
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:50.920
it's part of the same uh,
same coke to pus, same octopus there.

450
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:55.200
You know. Do you think there's
stages of the cucking of comedy like

451
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:59.160
that? Does a big comedian kind
of get to a certain point and then

452
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:02.440
he's maybe exped to do this this
this, to to go to the next

453
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:07.320
level or to keep getting the work. Is that where it's they're all basically

454
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:12.280
expected to do this. They made
it. They made it pretty clear to

455
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:15.599
me that we would have. One
reason why our group kind of fractured afterwards

456
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:20.119
was they made it clear to me
that we would have been able to keep

457
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:25.679
the show if I issued a public
apology and took our subreddit down. There's

458
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:30.199
definitely time, there's Yeah, of
course, anytime you get it's probably this.

459
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:31.159
I mean, I'm sure it's the
same in any in any field,

460
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:35.079
any industry. As you get,
as you get bigger, people come out

461
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:37.320
of the shadowy figure comes out of
the woodwork and tells you, hey,

462
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:42.920
you have to say this. Just
alter your message slightly. You know,

463
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:46.000
if your if your podcast gets bought
by some company that has a lot of

464
00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:50.159
Chinese money. Here, there's probably
a topic that you're going to start avoiding

465
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:57.119
because of it. You know,
what's your favorite MD sketch? Joe Rogan?

466
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:04.239
Sorry, we'll get to your challenge
here in a minute. For I

467
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:09.119
want him, I can taste blood. Probably my favorite stuff is the stuff

468
00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:14.719
I did on my cell phone in
my my mom's apartment way back in the

469
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:17.679
day, because that was the most
insane moment. Your mom is just golden.

470
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:22.480
Yeah, it was. It was
the most insane and desperate, desperate

471
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:29.320
time of my life. And those
videos it was like the one, uh

472
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:31.840
not ray of hope, but it
was like the one. The most joyous

473
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:36.760
moments were in front of that mirror, just saying the most cracked, cracked

474
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:46.960
out stuff that I could come up
with. Your mom's echoing constantly, I

475
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:52.199
know, well, part of part
of her. It's not it's not so

476
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:54.800
much that I want to abuse my
mom or anything. I love my mom

477
00:35:54.920 --> 00:36:00.920
so much. I talked to her
often, but her style of parenting was

478
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:07.320
just such a constant like browbeating and
nannying and like telling telling me that my

479
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:10.320
teeth were gonna fall out if I, uh, you know, used them

480
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:14.679
to like unscrew a bottle cap or
something, or that I was gonna burn

481
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:19.159
the roof of my mouth, like
hypochondriac hypochondriac stuff like to an extreme,

482
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:22.320
like constant warnings, you're gonna you're
never gonna, You're gonna lose your fingertips,

483
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:27.480
if you touch the that thing,
you're gonna get electrocuted. If you

484
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:30.679
go down your stairs, you have
to watch out on your streets. So

485
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:36.800
so the uh, the kind of
like light light abuse that I gave her

486
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:43.000
in those videos, it trust me, is fully warranted. And probably she's

487
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:45.760
boomer right, there's something about the
boomer or they're afraid of everything, you

488
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:50.360
know, like they're really afraid of
everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

489
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:53.119
big time. She's def boomer.
Boomer to the core, Boomer to the

490
00:36:53.119 --> 00:37:00.679
core. Now you have a campaign
going, let's talk about that you have

491
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:06.079
issued to get you want to get
Rogan into the octagone. I've issued several

492
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.960
threats. I've had some of my
friends from the martial arts world, the

493
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:15.840
Chuck Norris, Nick Diaz, Lennox
Lewis, et cetera back me up in

494
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:19.960
real videos that they made for me, not cameos that I paid for.

495
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:22.360
That's a rumor that I want to
squash right now. There's a rumor going

496
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:29.760
around that I paid twenty five hundred
dollars for a Caitlyn Jenner cameo that was

497
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:32.159
canceled, but my bank account still
got charged. I'm waiting for the chargeback

498
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:37.639
on that. That is. That's
a rumor. And Lenox Lewis and Randy

499
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:42.679
Couture did indeed come out with messages
just for me. Because I'm in that

500
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:45.880
world. I'm in Joe Rogan's world. I'm kind of a master of that

501
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:49.679
world. I'm more I'm more respected
than Joe Rogan. As you think Lennox

502
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.400
Lewis would make a video for Joe
Rogan, I don't think so. Okay,

503
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:55.239
the guy's multi multi millionaire, best
legendary heavyweight. I don't think he's

504
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:58.239
making a video for Joe Rogan.
He made one for me because I'm in

505
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:00.440
that. I'm in the game.
I'm in the game, Joe, and

506
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:05.480
you're ready, you're ready to step
into that octagon. I'll step into the

507
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:08.800
octagon with Joe. I don't care. I'll let him. I'll let him

508
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:13.320
put his pajamas on and try to
try to cuddle me and roll around.

509
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:15.400
I'll punch him dead in his face. I don't care. I know what

510
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:20.639
his strategy, and his strategy would
be to hug me and try to cuddle

511
00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:23.519
with me in pajamas for ten minutes, try to wear me out like that.

512
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:25.960
Now you're getting punched dead in the
face, Joe, I don't care.

513
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:29.519
If you've got a turning sidekick,
I got a flipping sidekick, I

514
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:34.719
got a backwards around town sidekick.
You haven't even seen my sidekick. He'll

515
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:40.079
come in with a team of lawyers, probably ye, I'll come in with

516
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:45.559
a team of Hispanic gangbangers. How
about that, Joe Street. I got

517
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:51.960
trolos, my home, my ms, thirteen homies, Seysan Chino, Campache,

518
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:55.519
Chico, Chachi, chich They'll all
be there. And by the way,

519
00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:59.760
I issued a challenge to you which
you ignored, which was that after

520
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:04.239
that I will step into the octagon
with you and you can bring butter Bean

521
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.880
or any of you can bring butter
Bean or any of the uh uh uh

522
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:12.360
you know washed up. I know
you're a man of You're a man of

523
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:15.239
God. I don't want to.
I don't want to test my standing with

524
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:19.679
the big man upstairs by taking on
one of his great champions. I'll pass

525
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:22.000
on that one, all right,
all right, Well, thank you lad

526
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:25.159
at me. It was great,
Jay, Thanks thanks a lot of man

527
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:30.719
for having me on. Absolutely and
send the TV Esoteric Hollywood. Thank you

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