WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.599 --> 00:00:19.719 Hello, everyone, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. It is episode 2 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:25.239 seventy three. I believe I'm Mike. That's Dan, Hello, that's Mary. 3 00:00:25.679 --> 00:00:30.120 Hello. You probably know us. It's January. I think it's still 4 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:34.799 January. So presumptuous. What they don't What if it's their first episode a 5 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:40.039 fire Escape Cast and they're just testing us out and this is their Describe, 6 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:46.159 Describe Mary, Describe Dan in one sentence for anybody who's new to the show. 7 00:00:46.560 --> 00:01:00.799 Okay, he is part gamer, part wrestling weirdo producer Rapscallion, doesn't 8 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:06.400 know how to cook or do many normal things, but is a very nice 9 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:08.280 person, but a heel and kind of a bastard too. Okay, I 10 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:14.159 was gonna say that that was way too civil up and time dressing last week. 11 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:21.319 That was the first time I tasted chickpeas and breadcrumbs and made a salad. 12 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:25.799 It was I cut kale. Anyway, we will do that all the 13 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:29.159 time. You didn't made sure the world knew about it so that you could 14 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:32.319 bring it up now, the fact that you don't know how to cook. 15 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:36.799 I was impressed with myself. I saw Brian Shape post an instagram of a 16 00:01:36.840 --> 00:01:38.760 salad that looked good and thought, hey, I'll try that, And I 17 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:41.879 texted him like, where'd you get the recipe? And he sent it to 18 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:45.519 me and I tried it and it was very good. How would you described 19 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:49.159 Dan if you think mine is too nice? Me? Yes, you said 20 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:55.040 that I was too soft? Well go on, mister hard man. Mister 21 00:01:55.480 --> 00:02:02.519 uh, just as obviously a genius as he can be annoying, but also 22 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:07.640 a good friend. Soft as hell. No, I wasn't. I said 23 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:15.719 any annoying. I mean like playful. I'm going for annoying, so I 24 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:22.159 mean, thank you. He is fair enough I'm going for so that's not 25 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:30.120 an insult to Mary. Very nice, incredibly talented, crazily hard working, 26 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:37.479 uh to a point almost of intimidating quality, will kick your ass and deliver 27 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:40.960 a great product for whatever corporation she works for. Mary Kish, I'm getting 28 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:46.439 this is too cloying. We just people. No, this is one of 29 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:51.400 those things where this doesn't represent us. No, we're always nice to each 30 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:55.280 other's Actually, no, don't do me? Yeah, d no, we 31 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:59.159 should do you want to start or should we like workshop this together? What 32 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:05.560 a piece of shit? Your circutentious sailboat sailing wine drinking somalier want to be 33 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:09.680 thanks. He's a writer. Sniffing, yeah, part sniff and I just 34 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:14.879 parted like ten seconds ago. All the other ones with me and you were 35 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:21.120 very nice and then we just ship all over me maybe dictating Bill gasby Pan, 36 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:27.960 you know, and I the only bit I asked you to not do, 37 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:31.240 and you continually. I'm fine with everything else for the most part, 38 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:37.639 but I don't like that one. If you know what about Mike, just 39 00:03:37.719 --> 00:03:40.639 search for about the author Mike Maharty and you'll learn everything you know about Mike 40 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:45.400 Mahrty. The people I got quite a well, I guess I've got some 41 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:47.560 news if you didn't, if you're not on social media, I'm leaving Polygon. 42 00:03:47.639 --> 00:03:51.919 I've been at Polygon for two and a half years. About big news, 43 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:55.680 big change, moving away, I'm sure maybe next episode, maybe two 44 00:03:55.680 --> 00:04:00.879 episodes from now. Sorry, I'll talk about what I'm doing next, but 45 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:04.879 suffice it to say, I am moving away from forward facing games industry stuff, 46 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:11.479 staying in games, but I'm not doing editorial anymore. You two know, 47 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:16.079 and people who have been listening to Firescape, No, I've not saying 48 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:19.319 anything bad about editorial per se, just my I personally have been wanting to 49 00:04:19.319 --> 00:04:24.560 get away from editorial for a while, and after the Quibi Show, and 50 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:28.199 then after doing some freelance stuff and after doing some marketing work, like the 51 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:30.639 only place I would go back to editorial for is Polygon, and then Chris 52 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:35.560 Plant brought me on two and a half years later, got burnt out a 53 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:42.879 bit on editorial again. Absolutely still thrilled with the direction Polygon's going. It's 54 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:45.360 just time for me to step back, and I got a cool new opportunity, 55 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:48.040 so yeah, I'll be doing that soon. But uh, you can. 56 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:53.000 It's not affecting Firescape whatsoever. If anything, like, my opinions here 57 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:56.800 might be more fiery because I'm not getting them out in words on Polygon. 58 00:04:56.879 --> 00:04:59.279 You're not part of the games of media anymore. Yeah yeah, yeah, 59 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:01.839 I mean my opinion will be getting conveyed in one way or another during my 60 00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:05.800 day job, for sure, but they won't be forward facing and it'll be 61 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:10.360 wine related. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, were you in? 62 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:15.199 Were you a Polygon when we started this April twenty one. April twenty 63 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:19.480 two was the first episode. It might have been Quibi Quibi Town started. 64 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:25.639 Quibbi was March twenty twenty until September twenty twenty October twent twenty. So I 65 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:29.199 guess technically the first like half hour thing we did, you were equipped. 66 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:33.399 I was correct. When we started at full or when we officially started fire 67 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:38.959 Escape, I was doing freelance like marketing, sponsorship work for Polygon, I 68 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:44.399 was not. I joined in Polygon editorial August twenty one. All right, 69 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:48.240 so now I'm the last survivor of games Media of us three. Yeah, 70 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:54.199 jeez, I feel like a dope. Mmm man. Yeah, Ji Bomb 71 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:57.079 is always like straddling that line. It's games media, for sure, but 72 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:02.120 it's also like I watched uh Blight Club yesterday. Okay, here's how okay, 73 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:05.000 I'm in that weird. I never watched game Spot or game I never 74 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:09.560 watched Giant Bombs. I don't either, and that's not that's not a testament 75 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:12.319 to the quality of Giant Bomb. It's just like, again we've talked before, 76 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.240 it's like, when you're in this sphere so much, it's tough. 77 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:18.360 It can be tiring to watch other sites what they're doing. And the Giant 78 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:23.240 Bombs nothing like Polygon, to be clear. However, when I'm working for 79 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:26.639 Polygon's like the last thing I have time to do is watch a full, 80 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:31.240 like two hour stream of my Mike Manatti being very bad at this Moral Kombat 81 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:36.079 game and it's good at it. Actually the game is he's pretty good at 82 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:43.319 it. That game is hot horseship. Let me say something I heard of 83 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:49.360 the half hour I watched. You claimed that several I know Michael Hyam, 84 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:55.000 I don't know Mike Manatti, snow Bike Mike I think is the fourth Mike 85 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:58.959 you mentioned, and for myself Mike check podcast. You said that we're all 86 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:01.639 extremely different, but there is one weird like X factor gene that we all 87 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:06.680 share. I know you said that, like we all share a specific weird 88 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:11.160 gene. I don't think I share any genes with Mike Manatti, just based 89 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:14.639 entirely on some things I've seen. I don't think I was saying that. 90 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:16.639 I don't know if I said weird gene, but if I did say something 91 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:19.800 along that line, it was probably all you have. You all four of 92 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:25.199 you have quirks. There's something about your personalities that makes you not just like 93 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:28.560 average guy on the streets, Like there's something very strong. It's a good 94 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:30.319 thing. But like, I'm not saying you have something in common with Mike 95 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:36.199 Manatti because outside of the name Mike, I am struggling. Yeah, yeah, 96 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:39.399 No, I mean I don't. I've never met the guy. I'm 97 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:42.920 going to reserve judgment until I meet him. They could both be flaky. 98 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:47.439 You don't know. Oh yeah, like very specific personality traits that we share. 99 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:53.800 How many Disney songs did you sing right now? On command? I'll 100 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:58.800 make a man out of like one, the move on? Okay, two? 101 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:03.399 Yeah, of course it was. I'm not a Disney adult. I 102 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:07.959 grew up. I drank beer and did push ups. Eventually, Mike Manatti, 103 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:09.959 who was looking at any picture of him from age twenty down, He's 104 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:16.920 just drinking into a push hips. Here's my thing, here's my Here's why 105 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:20.720 I'm hesitant. I don't want to pass judgment on him. How here's the 106 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:24.600 adult part. You can here we go the Disney adult part in this household. 107 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:28.639 You you you both know my wife and I pretty well. I think 108 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:33.440 you both know that Disney adults are not held in high esteem in our apartment 109 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:43.120 from either of us. I go on, I just not to say I'm 110 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:46.320 not into some juwe wow, juvenile. No, that's the wrong word. 111 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:50.480 I don't know. I think here's my thing. I try to stay open 112 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:58.000 minded and empathetic, but there are certain character traits that up front definitely create 113 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:03.720 more of a hurdle. And I'm meeting someone Disney adult is a pretty huge 114 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:07.360 one for me meet too, to the point where it's like I will give 115 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:09.240 some if I know someone well, I will give them good natured shit about 116 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:13.120 it, Like I do that all the time. But at the same time, 117 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:16.840 I also am someone who's obsessed with a kind of niche, weird industry 118 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:20.759 that people get obsessed with, and that's wrestling, and so like, I 119 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:24.720 have definitely had that break too. Yeah, Like when people hear they're like, 120 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:26.240 oh, yeah, he's an adult that likes professional wrestling, Like I 121 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:31.679 am used to that. It's in the same family of like derision from non 122 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:33.720 fans that I met. Disney fans get like, oh, you're a grown 123 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:39.200 man who watches that, Like so a grau get that always gamers. When 124 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:41.240 was the last time And this is all happened to us. We've been like 125 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:43.759 at a function and someone's like, what do you do as a hobby and 126 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:48.159 you're like, oh, I'm a gamer, and they're like a gamer and 127 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:50.639 then they look at you like you're you should be twelve, and this is 128 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:56.320 something that has plagued all people from you know, the dawn of childish hobbies. 129 00:09:56.360 --> 00:10:00.679 And the reality is like it doesn't hurt anyone, and it's fine for 130 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:03.720 them to do it. But I do struggle to keep a conversation with a 131 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:07.200 Disney adult. They if I don't want to talk about Disney. It's kind 132 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:11.159 of like the same when I try to have a conversation with someone who's like 133 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:16.799 really focused on their kid a little bit an now about you know, the 134 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:22.159 school system. I just don't care. Aside from games, because I agree 135 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:28.480 the comparison absolutely works, but like more these days, every fucking body plays 136 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:37.320 games in one way or another. What Disney adults to me still conveys to 137 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:43.720 me, perhaps you're around it, perhaps I'm in I'm in such a like 138 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:48.639 politically calm mood tonight and I don't want to stir the pot and I want 139 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:54.960 to rock the boat. But being a Disney adult implies to me that something 140 00:10:56.519 --> 00:10:58.639 you're you want to regress your childhood if you're not actively trying to do it 141 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:05.240 every day, And wow, like psychological video game. You of individuals who 142 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:11.960 like Disney, let me can email us at fire Escape Cast at gmail dot 143 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:18.480 com to tell Mike how you feel about his belittling views of Disney adults. 144 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:20.799 Go ahead, I want to Devil's advocate for Disney adults. Mike Manati, 145 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:24.360 if you're listening, this is for you. Do you feel and honestly, 146 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:30.480 I can take it that idea of a Disney adult wanting to regress to a 147 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:33.759 pastime or innocent time child or whatever. Blah uh? Do you think that 148 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:39.799 is in the same category as like me obsessively collecting every like genesis in any 149 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:41.639 s game from when I was ten? Is that in that same family, 150 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:46.559 because, like you know, it's a childhood thing I'm kind of obsessed with, 151 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:50.120 Like oh, I remember that from childhood. To be fair and open 152 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:54.240 the gate to potentially me having one, What would my Disney adult trait be? 153 00:11:54.879 --> 00:12:01.080 Did you like wine as a kid? No, I wish no. 154 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:07.399 No, Like I lacrosse, do sports count? I still every once in 155 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:11.279 a while pine for the days when lacrosse thing not adult though, But that's 156 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:16.039 things for children. It has to be something that's associated with like youth, 157 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:22.200 Like wrestling is a very young, like focused space I love, disagree with 158 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:26.240 I would disagree, well, yes, kids love like John CNN and stuff 159 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:28.879 like that, and yes, the big characters and all that, it works 160 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:33.679 for kids, but I feel like you see a lot of obsessed like dudes 161 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:37.279 my age that were teenagers during Stone Cold see Boston and the boom period in 162 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:39.480 the nineties and step that are now obsessed at the age of thirty five, 163 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:43.440 forty forty five Disney adults. It's literally the same thing and all, to 164 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:48.480 be clear, you were a child where you've got into wrestling and now you're 165 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:52.840 obsessed with it still and you can't let it go. It is literally the 166 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:56.879 equivalent of someone who saw Cinderella and now fucking can't let it go. But 167 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:05.120 Mary, who's cooler stone Cold? Steve Austin or Mickey Mouse? Yeah, 168 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:09.879 it's stone Cold? To get clear, To be clear, there's absolutely nothing 169 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:15.759 wrong with like being a child every now and then, like I get like 170 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:18.159 I do it all the time. I would not would you a beautiful castle 171 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:22.279 to like hang out with Stone Cold Steve Austin get my photo with him? 172 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:24.320 Though, I literally it wouldn't be the first place I'd picked, but I 173 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:28.720 would do that. I walked into the kitchen the other day Sunday morning, 174 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:33.519 a bit hungover and like Amanda was stilling living and I started going, I'm 175 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:35.279 gonna get a child and then start running at her. I'm a weirdo. 176 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.360 I'm a child sometimes, but you don't have the child like interest. You 177 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:41.480 don't have that pop culture You're not. You're not someone who's obsessed with like 178 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:46.360 nostalgia with like you knows Star Wars when I was a kid, or Calvin 179 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:48.399 Hops that's you know, that's a comic strip. That's everyone that is nostalgi 180 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:54.679 you know, Kevin Hobbs actually like a really adult comic strip about like boringly 181 00:13:54.960 --> 00:14:01.159 norm the thing that I'm very normal. I've I've always been called normal up 182 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:05.559 throughout my life. That's the ways you're kind of boring and normal and very 183 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:09.879 adult. Yeah, that's that's what I've been working toward this whole. It's 184 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:11.919 taking seventy three episodes to get you guys to admit it. But here we 185 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:18.039 are. We're just in different places in our lives. I watched a v 186 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:24.879 tuber digitally shit skittles for an hour last I'm sorry. It was like, 187 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:31.879 I'm sorry, technical breakthrough that she was able to do it. A v 188 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:39.480 tuber shitting skittle So is this a person was there is this literally supposed to 189 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:43.279 be a pooping situation. Is a model. She's like a VTuber model, 190 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:48.679 So to be tuber implies you're not seeing an actual person. There's no person. 191 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:52.840 Well behind, there's an avatar for a real person. It's like when 192 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:56.080 the Gorillas would be in concert and there's skittles coming out, but like, 193 00:14:56.279 --> 00:15:00.440 yeah, is there a butthole? There's no butthole. That's against TuS. 194 00:15:00.559 --> 00:15:03.399 You can't ship without a bubble. It wasn't shown, but there was one 195 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:09.159 realistic Yeah. Yeah, it sounds Disney adultsh to me, meant to be 196 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:11.759 realistic. I guess what I'm saying is is that we're very much like still 197 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:18.120 involved in very youthful activities like stone called Steve Austin or pooping skittles. Mike, 198 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:22.840 You're just kind of evolved and moved on towards like more grown up stuff 199 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:28.879 like wine, I wear cats stuff. That's where you get it all in. 200 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:33.360 Yeah, it's all sexual for me these days. My childhood stuff. 201 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:37.440 I don't feel that, Like you don't have Disney adult stuff, you don't 202 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:41.480 have wrestling stuff. You don't I mean, I mean the content. We 203 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:43.480 all play video games, but like, yeah, I don't think of you 204 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:48.320 as someone who's deeply nostalgic in a childlike way or anything. Really really quick, 205 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:54.120 I want to say I think video games can play a nostalgic factor. 206 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:58.240 I don't think video games are for any of us here, especially or probably 207 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:03.639 most people that in to the show a nostalgia thing. Yes, I'm kind 208 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:06.879 of obsessed with retro stuff. I think that. Yeah, maybe you more, 209 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:11.480 But like I think, I don't think it is in and of itself 210 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:19.399 an obsession with video games is a attempt to regress to childhood's stuff sexuality. 211 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:29.559 I love playing games like I love I love war I play. When I 212 00:16:29.679 --> 00:16:37.000 play like Disney's Lion King, i am taken aback to my childhood of safety 213 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:41.720 and I feel great again. And I love playing that game because of that. 214 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:45.440 But I consider the differences. Is Disney adults that's a huge part of 215 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:49.360 their identity. Yeah, that is a huge thing that they talk about all 216 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:56.919 the time. I do not talk about uh Disney's Lion King on Sega Genesis 217 00:16:56.039 --> 00:17:00.480 very often, but if you ask me, I can talk about it for 218 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:03.600 quite some time. But it's really it's really not something that I bring up 219 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:07.359 ever to compete. If you get two Disney adults in a room, they 220 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:12.880 compete to talk about who knows Disney World or Disneyland better. I've seen groups 221 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:17.640 of more than two do this as recently as the Game Awards and oh my 222 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:22.799 whole fucking talking about specific menu items changing. It's some Epcot bar or something. 223 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:26.400 It's holy shit. And again, to be clear, if you get 224 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:30.759 like three people in a room who like think they're the they know the most 225 00:17:30.759 --> 00:17:34.440 about wine, that happens as well. I'm just saying yes to your point. 226 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:42.400 I think Disney adults are like the CrossFit vegans who tend to want to 227 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:48.319 tell you upfront that they're into this stuff, and we're saying all the negative 228 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:52.960 stuff. Yeah, that's positive. With a Disney adult, it's ever been 229 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:56.680 awesome. Never been to Disney. I went as a child and thought it 230 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:00.400 was super lame. I went to Disney Paris when I went to Paris last 231 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:06.799 year, and I went early because a bunch of people who work on the 232 00:18:06.839 --> 00:18:11.960 events team are Disney adults, and they mapped out the entire day, which 233 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:14.519 at first I was like, I don't like this, but then I found 234 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:17.680 out that they had did it. They did it strategically so that we could 235 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:22.359 ride every ride without waiting a long time because they had it all like in 236 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:25.720 their heads of where to go and how to get everything done, which places. 237 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:29.960 They made reservations months in advance that I could eat at the ant Man 238 00:18:30.839 --> 00:18:33.920 eatery. It's not that cool, but like it was neat that they planned 239 00:18:33.960 --> 00:18:36.799 up the whole day, and I was like, I would never have had 240 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:42.240 this experience. It's kind of cool. They basically like gigendoed hamburgers so that 241 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:47.480 they were like as big as I don't know how to describe this, uh, 242 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:52.440 like three basketball withs like a huge, huge, huge, huge hamburger, 243 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:55.519 and then they would have hot dogs that were like the size of your 244 00:18:55.559 --> 00:18:59.599 thumb. Like the idea was like ant Man was shrinking and then expanding the 245 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:03.200 food for funzies. I don't think there's a lack of creativity in this space 246 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:07.559 at all. In fact, it's one of the most lucrative things ever. 247 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:10.920 I get it. They're great to make money Disney, Yeah, they know, 248 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:14.880 I just got to tap the money lever. But I just want to 249 00:19:14.920 --> 00:19:17.480 say I had a good time, and I specifically think I had a good 250 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:19.039 time because a bunch of Disney adults were like here's how we do everything. 251 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:22.160 The min max this place, and I was like, I'm down to clown 252 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:27.119 and they took control of everything. Yeah. That on that point I realized 253 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:30.319 I did meet Mike Manadi in person for the first time at Disney World. 254 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:34.119 It was like a press thing around Summer Games Fest for Mickey's Bullshit Island or 255 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:37.880 whatever, and they had it at Disney World and I met him. I'd 256 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:41.640 worked with them several times online, like a lot online. At this point 257 00:19:41.680 --> 00:19:45.039 I met him in person in Disney World. It seemed like a fait and 258 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:47.839 we didn't have like all day or anything, but he took me on like 259 00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:51.640 the Star Wars rides and took me around that area, took me to the 260 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:53.880 Star Wars canteena bar, and told me what the stuff Like that, You 261 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:57.039 went around Disney with a Disney adult who fucking knew exactly what to do. 262 00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:02.359 And I will not deny it was a good time. I really enjoyed it. 263 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:07.440 It was It's like it's like dating a bar owner and when you go 264 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:10.160 in, they're like, here's the table for you, and I'm giving you 265 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:12.279 the best of everything. And they didn't spit in this food, like everything 266 00:20:12.319 --> 00:20:18.119 you get is VIP because you knew somebody a Disney adult is that somebody? 267 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:22.359 So I just get But they don't own the park, do they. No, 268 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:25.359 they're just a weirdo but they still benefit. YEA. Yeah, you 269 00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:26.319 go to the park once with them and then you break up with them. 270 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:36.000 That's how it brings happiness to many people. I like Lord of the Rings. 271 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:38.920 Geekery is probably the closest I would get to that, But like Lord 272 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:42.960 of the Rings is, everybody knows those are the best movies ever made, 273 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:48.400 so I don't can't argue with that. They're like legitimately good. Yeah, 274 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:52.160 I think Disney adults are bad about raining it in where it's like like like 275 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:55.480 you said, Mary, they will bring it up. They will like everything 276 00:20:55.519 --> 00:20:57.400 will be tied to Disney I have. I think I do some like internal 277 00:20:57.400 --> 00:21:00.440 math whenever I'm on a podcast or thing, because like I think, if 278 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:03.920 over fifty percent of the people I'm on the podcast with are at least somewhat 279 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:07.279 into wrestling, That's when I'll kind of go into wrestling conversation mode or use 280 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:11.000 wrestling terminology and stuff like that you'll find on here. I don't feel like 281 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:14.680 I'm shoehorning wrestling talking here a lot because I know neither of you watch, 282 00:21:14.799 --> 00:21:18.160 so but if I'm on with Jan and Grub and Backlar, Okay, I 283 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:21.079 know Backlar doesn't watch, but I got Jan and Grub, so that's over 284 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:22.759 fifty percent, and I think that's all bets are off. But I think 285 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:26.200 even as a weird wrestling obsessive, I can rein it in, whereas Disney 286 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:29.960 fans, boy, it's just coming out of every pore all the time, 287 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:33.720 right, Yeah, I mean I think that's fair. I also think, 288 00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:38.480 though to in their defense, there's been times where I have been at a 289 00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:44.240 party and people have been talking about who cares the stock market? And I'm 290 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:48.400 like, I hope something, yeah, brings up video games because I'm suffering. 291 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:52.759 There's not I'm not great sports fans do. I was just going to 292 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:56.400 say sports sports is rough because that's way more common, and so it is. 293 00:21:56.440 --> 00:21:57.599 I can't tell you how many times I've been around a group of people 294 00:21:57.599 --> 00:22:02.880 where they're only talking about and it's like I have nothing to operate. Also, 295 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:06.920 I think there's also like there's this like traditional idea of like normal sea 296 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:08.559 and masculinity attached to a lot of sports. So I think they bring it 297 00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:11.920 up because they want to appear that way, so like it's kind of admirable 298 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:15.400 that Disney adults might not have that, so then they do it. It's 299 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:19.480 a bit braver as opposed to just trying to fit in. I don't think 300 00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:23.240 Disney deults are brave. I think they're pansies, but like, I actually 301 00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:27.759 like I just think sports and the stock market and wine are similar in the 302 00:22:27.799 --> 00:22:32.599 sense that, like, you can't not you should be able to rein it 303 00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:34.720 in And I just would rather Disney adults do it more often. Can I 304 00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:38.559 say? I think we're doing a great job of simultaneously having a very reasonable 305 00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:42.240 and responsible conversation disneydults and also shitting on them at the same time. I 306 00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:47.640 think we're ruding that line. Well, I think it's so hard to give 307 00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:52.039 them pros, but my brain is flooded with coms. I just like the 308 00:22:52.079 --> 00:22:56.200 biggest Disney adults. I know Mike Benatti, and he's an absolute delight of 309 00:22:56.200 --> 00:23:03.279 a human being. So yeah, I had not watched I had not watched 310 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:04.680 Giant Bomb stuff in a bit, which is not by choice. It was 311 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:07.799 just because time and whatnot. And I tuned into a live stream and that 312 00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:11.759 dude captivated me for like forty five minutes before I realized I had been watching 313 00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:15.279 forty five minutes of a live stream about video games. He's also dressed as 314 00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:19.880 Kwan Chi with makeup, and his makeup work is incredible. I think I 315 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:23.920 would love to meet that guy, but I will not connect with him on 316 00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:27.480 Disney stuff. That's all I'm saying. I think he wouldn't expect it. 317 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:30.559 He wouldn't, And I don't think he's gonna connect with me on certain things 318 00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:33.839 either, But he wouldn't wouldn't push it either. He wouldn't be like, 319 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:36.119 let me explain to you why, like no, No, He'll he'll talk 320 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:38.519 breathlessly about it if you engage him, but he also won't like trying to 321 00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:45.000 convince you. I'm not even gonna say anything that rhymes with mulan or for 322 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:48.799 example, lot, what rhymes with mulan gulash? No, it doesn't at 323 00:23:48.839 --> 00:24:00.839 all. That's how rhyming worksan hounan like new toodles, Uh yeah, whunan 324 00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:11.000 whunan? Pushing it round? Is the frozen chosen, not brazen. It's 325 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:23.799 an easier one. Frozen and chosen and chosen classic classic frozen and raisins in 326 00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:29.640 the Korean War, but I don't think that's what we're dan. You've been 327 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:34.079 building your bar up, and you sent me a a that you enter what 328 00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:37.799 ingredients you have and it spits out of cocktail. Can you go into details 329 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:41.440 in this because I have questions. I'm very excited about this, but I 330 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:44.400 also have questions. Well, yeah, I realized I have that bar where 331 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:45.599 we did our game of the ear thing that room, and it's just like, 332 00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:49.000 god damn, I got this like custom made fucking liquor cabinet thing with 333 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:52.319 the sink next to what I should probably stock this fucking thing up to. 334 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:53.680 Like every time I drive past the liquor store, I buy a couple of 335 00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:56.039 things, so Topps all wine, and I got all these short bottles in 336 00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:59.920 the middle and like every type of liquor down across the bottom bunch of scotch 337 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:02.720 stuff, and I realized, like, well, god damn, I I 338 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:06.920 the only liquor I kind of drink straight for the most part is like scotch 339 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:10.160 and whiskey, So like when am I going to actually like drink all this 340 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:11.119 stuff? And I realized, well, shit, I should have some like 341 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:14.920 stuff for cocktails, and thought, well, maybe I have suffer cocktails, 342 00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:18.799 and I was I googled, like, you know, cock make cocktails with 343 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:22.279 ingredients I have or something, and I found some app it's like cocktail something 344 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:26.839 on an iPhone and you go to like the my bar thing and you just 345 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:29.359 pick every like you go to like, here's all the spirits, and I 346 00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:32.079 have jin, I have whiskey, all this question and then you say, 347 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:33.640 then it's all the liqueurs where it's like I have quantro, I have you 348 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:37.319 know this that, I've got the you know, triple stack whatever. And 349 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:41.240 then it's got the pantry. So I say like I've got nutmeg, I've 350 00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:45.559 got vanilla extract, I've got cran apple juice or whatever, salt, pepper, 351 00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:48.319 whatever. So you just kind of check everything and then it does some 352 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:53.240 stuff and it tells you like here's ten cocktails you can make, and there's 353 00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:56.000 nine more if you want to pay for it. But I just looked at 354 00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:57.599 the ten and it's just kind of a nice thing because it's like, well, 355 00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:00.880 shit, this is all this stuff I have on hand, and also 356 00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:03.160 gives me a good idea of like, oh, I bet I could make 357 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:07.079 a lot more if I had simple syrup or because I Mike, you bought 358 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:10.880 those bidders when when we were all here like a simple when we're there too, 359 00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:12.640 right right, because we didn't have simple syrup. So I use the 360 00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:19.359 bitterers you bought and syrup make simple syrup. It's easy, it's easiest possible. 361 00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:22.799 For me, I knew the easiest also need the easiest thing. But 362 00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:26.880 Dan, so that okay, that all sounds great because when you we were 363 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:40.680 talking a few nights I'm talking about that sounds great because my question was something 364 00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:44.200 you already answered, which was, okay, I'm assuming you enter in the 365 00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:48.319 bar you have at what point? Okay, so if you're making if if 366 00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:53.400 you could make a last word, say you have gin lime, limes, 367 00:26:53.920 --> 00:27:00.599 uh, chartreuse, and then you don't have maraschino. If you have those 368 00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.319 three, would this app tell you, hey, you could make this really 369 00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:07.200 good cocktail if you bought this one more thing. But it sounds like it 370 00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:10.720 is, which is great because yeah, Bonka asked me that exact question when 371 00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:14.400 I was making this like a half hour ago, and I have not seen 372 00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:18.519 I've literally made two cocktails with it so far. No, it sounds good. 373 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:22.079 My thing was like, well, what if Dan is putting in like 374 00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:25.880 three ingredients that he has of this really good drink. Would it recommend the 375 00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:27.519 fourth if you want to spend like other twenty dollars, which it sounds like 376 00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:32.440 it is. I guess I haven't seen it recommend things I don't have, 377 00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:34.680 but I can look at the list of possible things and I'd be like, 378 00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:37.720 oh, I thought the way you described it, I thought they were saying 379 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:40.960 like, hey, if you want to spend another ten dollars, there's this. 380 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:42.960 No I don't think I know. Okay, no, no, no, 381 00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:48.920 that would be a good feature because like that's happened with me some of 382 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:51.440 the books we have. It's like all right again, I'm just using the 383 00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:52.920 last word as like a popular example the last couple of years, like all 384 00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:57.759 right, I have limes for lime juice, I have gin, I have 385 00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:03.119 marisk but I don't have chartruths. A lot of people are not gonna have 386 00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:06.359 shoot chartruths these days. Would the app tell you, hey, if you 387 00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:08.319 got chart ruth you could make this great cocktail. You're close, but you 388 00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:11.720 almost you need one more thing. I haven't seen like a section where it's 389 00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:14.880 like closed but no cigar or anything. I just say, like here's what 390 00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:17.039 you can make, and if you get premium, you can do this manymore 391 00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:22.000 if they if they're listening, or like we know the people who if we 392 00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:26.160 know the people who made it, then like that's a feature that would kill 393 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:30.440 because that would flow cocktail. It might if anyone uses this. It seems 394 00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:32.680 like it's a very popular one, and maybe it has it. I've literally 395 00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:33.799 made two drinks, so I don't really know all the features and stuff, 396 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.119 but like it might have that. It sounds good otherwise, but like they 397 00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:41.720 should do that because so much of my experience with cocktails, which I made 398 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:45.039 a lot. Have you seen the photos we finally built ours up to Dan, 399 00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:49.880 Yours is? Yours is? Yeah, yours is definitely like yours is 400 00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:52.640 incredible. I loved it seeing in person, but like ours. We finally 401 00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:56.319 got a new bar in the dining room against that wall where we had that 402 00:28:56.359 --> 00:29:03.720 bonus video a couple of years ago. Amanda's been getting me these tiki cocktail 403 00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:07.079 recipe books, which if you've made tiki drinks you know that they have like 404 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:10.880 twelve ingredients each. They take a while, but they're incredible. But my 405 00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:14.039 experience often with something I want to make is like, oh, yes, 406 00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:19.039 I have. I have orange bitters, I have gin I have I could 407 00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:26.119 muddle raspberries. Fuck, but I don't have like eggs right now. I 408 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:29.240 would need to go get those. Like so much of it is like I 409 00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:32.279 don't have that last ingredient. If the app was like telling you that last 410 00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:33.599 one to make something that you might really like, that would be a good 411 00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:37.480 feature too. I bet if you tap like an ingredient, that wouldn' surprise 412 00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:40.119 me. If it's like, here are the drinks you could make with that, 413 00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:45.119 and then you could see by the process of elimination to tell what you 414 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:49.880 can make. That app sounds awesome though, Like that, like that sounds 415 00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:52.880 perfect because like again, the more you bell out of the bar, the 416 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.880 more you're like, I'm in the move for like I'm drinking the best cocktail 417 00:29:56.920 --> 00:29:59.880 ever in existence right now. It's in Alaska. Have we talked about this? 418 00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.160 Oh, real quick before I forget, Yes, I think you've made 419 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:04.319 one of those. I just checked it. So I went to like the 420 00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:07.319 Bay Breeze cocktail, and I hit pineapple juice, which is one of the 421 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.359 ingredients. And you can just say it says used in fifty five cocktails. 422 00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:14.640 Oh that's awesome, and so then it's like I can know, like, 423 00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:18.960 okay, so I've got this thing. So yeah, that's perfect. No, 424 00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:22.119 that sounds cool. I want to look that up. No, this 425 00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:25.720 is in Alaska. This is a it's like a martini ish drink. But 426 00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:30.920 chartruse is a liqueur from France that is like we may have talked about this 427 00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:34.559 in Fire Escape. It's like my white whale right now, or it's many 428 00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:41.519 people's white well because the last word cocktail was kind of brought back from It 429 00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:45.400 was a Prohibition era cocktail that got brought back by a bartender in Seattle not 430 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:51.519 that long ago, and like in the maybe two thousand and five it got 431 00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:55.920 revived basically, which happens. There was like there's been several renaissances of cocktails, 432 00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:57.640 as there was with wine, as there are with like anything. It's 433 00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:02.480 all cyclical. But the last three or four years, the last word kind 434 00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:06.799 of started popping back up on menus and one of the key ingredients in a 435 00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:08.880 last word cocktail, which I like, I think it's a bit overblown, 436 00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:14.519 but I still love it, is chartruse because that cocktail is showing up to 437 00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:22.279 so many cocktail many chartreuse itself, demands skyrocketed because it is made by monks 438 00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.319 in France who don't give a shit about how much it sells. Selfish bastards. 439 00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:30.240 They didn't feel the need to up the supply. They're like, hey, 440 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.759 this is our vocation, this is our this is what we spend our 441 00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:37.400 days, this is our calling. Chartruse is cool because there's supposedly, as 442 00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:41.039 it goes, there are two monks. I should have heard the rest of 443 00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:44.920 the story before I call them selfish bastards. Gone there sounds like they're very 444 00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:48.000 generous and selfless. I don't know, I don't I don't know them personally, 445 00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:51.359 but like, this is a shit go on, Mike, tell me 446 00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:56.839 more furious. They save babies all over the world, and they're anti their 447 00:31:56.880 --> 00:32:00.640 pro their pro abortion and everything. So merry, are you again those things 448 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:04.680 or is that what you're saying? Already made my point, I'm not gonna 449 00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:10.160 go back. There are only ever two months monks alive Carthusian monks that know 450 00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:14.559 the recipe, and it's like one hundred and fifty three ingredients for chartreuse. 451 00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:16.920 My point being, they don't care about the money. It's a vocation, 452 00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:21.240 it's calling for them, so they didn't up the supply, so chartreuse is 453 00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:24.079 hard to find. I finally found a bottle recently. They shipped them out 454 00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:29.839 recently, So if I'm having a last word, now I finally have chartruse. 455 00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:32.519 But that was that one ingredient I just never had for a last word. 456 00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:37.519 But an Alaska is just an ounce and a half of gin, a 457 00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:43.200 half ounce of chartreuse, and a dash of orange bitters, and you stir 458 00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:45.519 it on ice, and you pour it in a chilled glass preferably this is 459 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:50.079 a Nick and Nora glass, which is my which is good for up drinks 460 00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:53.920 up meaning without ice. Oh it's the best thing ever. Nice, It's 461 00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:58.680 a perfect cocktail. There is something fun about putting it together. And then 462 00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:00.839 like obviously drinking is fun, but when it's something that it's like, even 463 00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:02.960 like the simple bullshit I've made here, it's just like, oh, this 464 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:05.839 is the fun thing that I put together and didn't just like you know, 465 00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:08.440 drink out of the can or whatever. Friday evenings at like five or six 466 00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:13.000 pm when I'm done with work, Like cooking is great because I start working 467 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.480 with my hands and you have a final product to show for it, and 468 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:16.839 it's a good way to like get away from the computer. You're working with 469 00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:21.000 your hands, like you don't have to think about slack. Cocktails are the 470 00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:22.960 same thing. It's like, yes, I would prefer wine nine days out 471 00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:28.400 of ten, but cocktails it's like you're you're still concocting something in your shit 472 00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:30.720 like certain Like again, if you have like an egg white, you got 473 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:32.160 to do the dry shake before you have the ice. It's it's a fun 474 00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:36.640 like alchemical kind of process. Well, Mike, you would know this. 475 00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:39.400 I keep hearing people say lately that it is said that France has the best 476 00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:45.799 champagne. That was my duelingo thing for those I put that up there. 477 00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:51.599 That annoyed the shit out of me. Why does that someone rigging? Because 478 00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:54.440 France is the only country that has champagne. Now you can buy it here 479 00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:58.400 I got a New Year's No you can't, or you yes, Okay, 480 00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:01.359 you can buy champagne outside of but like, France is the only country that 481 00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:07.519 can make champagne because champagne the region is in France where champagne is made. 482 00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:10.000 What's it called if I made it in Minnesota, don't fucking know. Just 483 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:14.519 a sparkling wine. But it's probably right. No, it's not. It's 484 00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:21.119 what's different grapes years and years and years of tradition and wine making and institutional 485 00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:23.679 knowledge and practices, and it's made in a certain region where the grapes have 486 00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:29.400 been growing in the same soil for like almost like centuries. What if I 487 00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:32.599 flew to Champagne, France with a big bucket that I could bring on TSA 488 00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:37.119 style and bring it back here through it in a garden pot or whatever. 489 00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:42.960 Yeah, and ile and I gotta pass customs, Okay, So you stole 490 00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:46.400 the grapes from Champagne, I'm stealing the grapes and the dirt. Okay, 491 00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:50.719 I see what you're saying. Well, once you steal the grapes off the 492 00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:53.440 vine, like, the soil has already done its job, so you wouldn't 493 00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:57.920 need the soil. Okay. What if I want to be like super authentic, 494 00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:00.159 I see where you're going. No, it would not be shamp pain 495 00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:02.519 because it wasn't made with the traditional method in Champagne. What if I did 496 00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:06.760 it the same way in champ Yeah, if you did the same exactly, 497 00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:08.840 why I do everything the same? Whatever I stomped on him the same way 498 00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:14.320 or whatever you do? Uh? Here, I feel like the travel time 499 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:15.719 would fuck with the grapes, it wouldn't be champagne. The first thing they 500 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:22.440 do is fuck the soil of the champagne ground. And you don't have that. 501 00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:29.440 That what stopped me, I think, stop me from a really long 502 00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:36.039 dick going all the way. Oh way. You're saying it has to go 503 00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:39.000 trans atlantic. Oh geez, Okay, yeah I can't. I can't like 504 00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:43.199 claim that that guy can't make a cocktail for ship, but he's got a 505 00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:52.199 transatlantic dick. Be unwieldy. That'd be a sick tender bio transatlantic chong. 506 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:55.039 This is the Indiana Jones map, just the red dot going across. But 507 00:35:55.079 --> 00:36:00.000 it's just a dick. It's just like the guy Ritchie interstitial map graphics like 508 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:04.280 boo boom boom boom bom boo boom boom boom boom boom, and then a 509 00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:17.719 dick. It's like, catch me if you can do you okay. I 510 00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:22.760 went to a wi a Scotch bar this weekend. Dan. It made me 511 00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:25.519 think of you because you. I'm not a Scotch drinker. I drink bourbon 512 00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:30.480 usually, but I went to a place called Scotch Lodge. They focused in 513 00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:34.719 scotch obviously, and they I went with a scotch drinker who helped me so 514 00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:39.920 I didn't embarrass myself. And I had several really nice scotches, one which 515 00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:44.639 blew me away, and they told me some really fun facts about it. 516 00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:49.679 And I'd wonder if you'd ever tried the Glen Dronik. I have a photo 517 00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:54.679 of it, gonna show you. That's what it looks like. Straight, 518 00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:59.639 what you just tipped on it like straight? I had it straight. I 519 00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:01.679 had all all of my scotch is straight. What they told me that I 520 00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:07.159 think was fascinating about it is apparently the current batch. This is very similar 521 00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:14.000 to Mike's Sharp True story because alcohol is handmade, which means it's never perfect 522 00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:15.440 and it can change year to year. Right, you can have a bad 523 00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:22.039 year for wine. The current batch of Glenn Dronick. I hope I'm saying 524 00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:28.320 that right. Eighteen year is apparently quite good because it's accidentally twenty two year. 525 00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:31.679 They're not going to market it that way because that would make people believe 526 00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:35.320 that every time they have eighteen year that it's twenty two year. It just 527 00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:37.559 so happens that right now a lot of the eighteen year was bottled. It 528 00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:43.760 it ended up being twenty four year and it's sublime. It was so smooth, 529 00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:46.280 and I don't like Scotch usually, I find it too Bernie. All 530 00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:51.199 so smooth, no burn, and it wasn't that sweet. It was just 531 00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:52.719 perfect and I couldn't believe it. And they were like, it's because this 532 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:55.199 is the twenty two year, but nobody knows that. And I thought I 533 00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:58.920 felt very smart leaving that place and made me want to buy a bottle. 534 00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:02.039 But it's like two or bucks though, Glenn Dronick eighteen eighteen years eighteen. 535 00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:06.639 But we're here and get it because I will get that, yeah, Glen 536 00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:08.679 Dronick, Glen Dronick. Is it's not the easiest Scotch to get, but 537 00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:13.679 it like you could find it. And I tried that and we bought the 538 00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:15.480 sixties, so I got h we were doing one ounce spores. I got 539 00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:22.280 a sixteen ounce oh sorry, sixteen sixty Scotch. I was fucked up. 540 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:27.920 I got I got a sixteen year boom par is a scot at the and 541 00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:32.079 the sixteen year wasn't chuck an us get her out of here, s all 542 00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:38.960 right. The sixteen wasn't even on par It was still very good. I 543 00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:42.960 would not. I wouldn't buy it. I wouldn't recommend it. The eighteen 544 00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:46.159 year bluey, you know what. I'm going to buy that the second I 545 00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:50.000 see it, because I've been meaning to because I love sitting on a scotch, 546 00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:52.719 but I don't know much about it. I don't research this stuff, 547 00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:55.840 really. I just have every Johnny Walker from red to blue, and I 548 00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:59.639 love trying the different ones and you know, telling the difference between them. 549 00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:01.400 But I have never ventured outside of Johnny Walker, and I'm sure there's a 550 00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:05.960 whole world of scotch out there that I don't know anything about. That's actually 551 00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:09.840 I'll start with this Glendronic eighteen that sounds great, and tell me what you 552 00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:15.360 think. I do not. I do not claim to be a scotch influencer. 553 00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:17.960 This one was the one where I was like, I feel like I've 554 00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:23.599 learned a lot because I had probably like eight glasses of scotch that night and 555 00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:27.559 this was the only I know. But you know, you're sipping, You're 556 00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:30.480 not drinking the whole ounce. You like having a little sip and you're passing 557 00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:34.679 it. This was like the white tasting. Yes, this is sure. 558 00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:38.320 I guess that's what I call it drinking in I tasted it, if that's 559 00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:40.880 what you mean. I was getting drunk at a bar. I don't know 560 00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:45.519 what you're calling it. It blew me away. And I thought, for 561 00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:51.360 the first time, Oh, this is what drinkers do. They they have 562 00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:54.400 palette changes, and they discuss the palette and they talk about the aftertaste and 563 00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:58.559 all in the scent and all this bullshit that I usually don't do. What 564 00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:01.800 have I been saying? Yeah, but I'm like three years I know you 565 00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:07.239 were, but like, okay, so that sounds great, Mary quick like 566 00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:12.159 was it a mislabeling thing? So they mislabeled it four years too early. 567 00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:15.960 So I was half listening when he told us, okay, think you can 568 00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:22.880 start. I think he was saying something like it was one of those uh 569 00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:30.280 snafoos where they had all these extra barrels that were left over and they didn't 570 00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:35.320 want to have twenty two year because they're not going to continue it, and 571 00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:37.320 it was just this thing that happened, and so they were like, we'll 572 00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:42.679 just put it in the eighteen and that everybody who's like figured it out is 573 00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:47.920 like this is God like God tear Scotch apparently, and it's now here's the 574 00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:53.840 catch, Dan, Yeah, when it's out this current run, it will 575 00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:58.440 just be regular eighteen. Well, I'm going to, like in the next 576 00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:00.880 right try to get this twenty two. And the guy was like, I 577 00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:05.639 can't promise you that if you go to the store right now that you will 578 00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:07.719 get the twenty two. He's like, but it is what's being circulated right 579 00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:13.639 now, so currently eighteen to twenty two. I'm making a note this weekend 580 00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:15.599 I will go out there and try to find it. Yeah, I feel 581 00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:17.039 that's what's cool. I'm also going to reach out to them. I would 582 00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:22.440 love to be a Scotch influencer. Yeah, because come on sponsor this fire 583 00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:29.079 Scape cast. If you get like Lafroug or Oben to sponsor your stream, 584 00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:31.920 I would be extremely surprised. I don't think they go for the same kind 585 00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:37.840 of stuff that Like, that would be awesome if you do that. I'm 586 00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:42.280 one Tale of the Sun play No. No, I'm sure there are many 587 00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:46.679 people that work at Lfroug and the like McAllen that fucking like play resnual one 588 00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:51.159 daily or something, but like, I don't know that that's the kind of 589 00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:53.960 marketing they do. If it is, I would be extremely elated to be 590 00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:57.599 wrong, Mike, I have actually had a lot of lafroug our. Mutual 591 00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:02.199 friend Sarah goes out there to Scottland for their based or something. She's brought 592 00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:06.400 a whole bunch back up for things for Ben Hansen's wedding. We all went 593 00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:08.679 to the Airbnb and she had like every type of lafroig and it was I 594 00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:14.320 remember that being good is that Scotch general rule of thumb Scotch can only come 595 00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:21.039 from Scotland, which is, well, well here we are again. But 596 00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:29.400 if he got soil and Scotch Mary's from Scotland, liquor nationalist Mike Maherty here 597 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:35.000 scott would you would need like the right barrels as well? Like that if 598 00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:40.440 I stolen from Scotland, you could probably replicate that. Uh what was that 599 00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:47.880 stealing? Yeah? I got it. But what if I stole the earth 600 00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:53.400 and you put it in a stolen barrel and hit it across the Minneapolis. 601 00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:59.320 You're always doing it like you're some kind of like nineteen thirty smuggler, Like 602 00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:07.320 it's always sa rye ry is like bourbon. Here's a misconception. All these 603 00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:10.719 fuck wads who say bourbon can only be made in Louisville. No, or 604 00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:15.480 in Kentucky. No, that's not true. Some of the best bourbons are 605 00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:20.159 made in Kentucky. Absolutely, I agree. Bourbon just needs to be I 606 00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:23.880 think it's fifty one percent based corn is the rule to be considered bourbon over 607 00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:28.440 just whiskey. Someone correct me if that's wrong. I think that's the actual 608 00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:32.360 rationale. But like when that's a thing too. It's like email fire escape 609 00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:38.840 cast at I actually want to know, gmail dot com courtesy of CC Mike 610 00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:44.480 Mahart Mike Maharty. Also we run on scott Factory fire escapecast at gmail dot 611 00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:46.760 com. See right, if I was wrong and you want to if like 612 00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:50.440 Lefroig wants to sponsor us, Oh my god, Amanda is more of a 613 00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:52.679 Scott's person than I am. I love it, but she knows more about 614 00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.199 it. But Obin, I think it's obin. It's pronounced ob a. 615 00:43:55.400 --> 00:44:00.960 N Oh wait right here, it just has one behind it's well, no, 616 00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:04.000 this is the empty cylinder from the empty bottle. But open is really 617 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:06.880 good. I like it. It's got that yeah, oh yeah, it's 618 00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:09.239 got that like salt water taste to the peat. Oh it's awesome. But 619 00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:13.719 it was amazing it's like such a huge part of the Scotch process. I 620 00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:16.440 wish I knew more about this. I I tried to cram in a lot 621 00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:21.480 of years of Scotch knowledge in two hours of heavy drinking, and let me 622 00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:25.400 tell you, I retrained. I retained very little. Weird. That's like 623 00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:36.599 to get any more about the pize, Sir, I heard there's barrels somewhere. 624 00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:40.679 If I now, if I go to Champagne, France and fuck the 625 00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:51.119 barrels, what happens to the pete? Are my children Champagne? Then imagine 626 00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:57.000 imagine a child half Champagne. What does that mean? You just said if 627 00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:59.480 I fuck up Champagne, like, would it be children? Yeah, but 628 00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:06.679 you're sayingiculous things now, nonsense. Imagine if a Cabernet and uh and uh, 629 00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:10.320 you know, and a person from Connecticut hooked up my god, the 630 00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:15.400 offspring, my god. None of this can be used in court. This 631 00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:22.679 is all just random, senseless things that we're saying about alcohol. And I 632 00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:28.000 don't think I'm educated enough to have such like opinions about it. But I 633 00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:32.239 know what I felt when I drank that one ounce, and it's amazing as 634 00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:37.480 like soap box as it sounds. That is why I fucking love wine above 635 00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:40.519 everything else. I still but like I think Scotch encapsulates it as well. 636 00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:45.039 Like some of my favorite drinks, you can actually taste where they're from, 637 00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:51.440 Like you taste if you're if you're drinking like an Anna rosso from Sicily, 638 00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:55.280 like a Norella mascal as it was grown on the literal slopes of a volcano. 639 00:45:55.800 --> 00:46:00.039 You can taste the igneous, like the ash in the line, and 640 00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:04.679 it's still delicious. That's fucking cool to me, Like you taste a part 641 00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:07.519 of the world. That's awesome, and like I love like Scotch is another 642 00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:09.000 thing where it's like, oh, okay, so this is what they were 643 00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:13.239 doing over like a century with this petmas. So it's like, here's why 644 00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:17.519 uh lafoy tastes different than lagavulin, And here's what these distilleries do differently in 645 00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:21.679 the growing process, and here's what they do differently in the actual aging process. 646 00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:23.119 Like that's when it's fun to me, when you're actually like in your 647 00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:27.719 mouth, you're or in you're like when you're smelling something as well, you 648 00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:32.760 are actually getting centuries worth of work that was put into this one tiny sniff 649 00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:38.239 glass and like so many intelligent people and like passed down through families and generations, 650 00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:42.320 like it's incredible, like and it's still at the end of the day, 651 00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:45.639 the most important thing is is it delicious? Does it taste good? 652 00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:47.519 And that's awesome, But like, maybe you can answer this. This is 653 00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:50.880 something I wonder a lot where it's like, you know, I don't have 654 00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:54.239 the most discerning palette that might shock people. But like with Scotch specifically, 655 00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:58.480 part of the reason that I am liking it so much is I can tell 656 00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:00.519 the difference between a red and a double black, or a blue and a 657 00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:05.039 gold, and like I can tell and appreciate it's subtle, but I can 658 00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:08.559 tell whereas I'll be honest, I probably now had, you know, maybe 659 00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:12.800 thirty bottles of red wine in my life. You know, I started fairly 660 00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:15.280 recently. I'd say it's a good summary. You think you've only had thirty 661 00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:20.559 bottles of wine in your entire life red wine? Oh, I've had maybe 662 00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:22.880 five white wine, maybe thirty ide over shooting it, I mean, like 663 00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:25.519 maybe it's fifteen. I just I mean, I started like a couple of 664 00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:29.559 years ago. Really, are you adding all the glasses and pouring them into 665 00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:32.239 back into the bottle to make your thirty. I've only drank a full bottle 666 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:36.840 of wine at the time. I've never had a glass, so that was 667 00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:38.559 where it's going to go bad. And yeah, Bod's on a big drinker. 668 00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:40.440 So it's like, well, I might as well just finish the bottle 669 00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:45.119 every time for red Yeah. Yeah. But but the point being that, 670 00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:46.920 like I've had let's say, I've had thirty bottles of red wine, and 671 00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:51.519 I've had ones that cost six dollars and I've had ones that cost fifty dollars. 672 00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:54.000 I literally gunned to my head could not tell you the difference between any 673 00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:58.239 of those thirty bottles of red wine. And they're different types. I've had 674 00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:00.199 cabs hobs, and I've had a temper and I've had you know, all 675 00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:04.960 these different red blends and all that stuff. Literally, I mean, maybe 676 00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:07.320 it was Pepsi Challenge style, maybe I would tell, but sure, so 677 00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:09.960 my hand, it's like, yeah, that tastes like red wine. So 678 00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:16.360 so the difference being what you're doing with Johnny Walker is what's considered a vertical. 679 00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:22.920 You're drinking like five. On the one hand, you have like say 680 00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:29.760 you have one specific bottle of wine from five different vintages. Vintage is a 681 00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:32.920 year in which the grapes were harvested. Say you have the same Cabernet salvignon 682 00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:37.679 from Santa Barbara, California, but you have the twenty seventeen up until the 683 00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:43.800 twenty twenty two. What you're doing the same wine, same exact or the 684 00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:47.400 same grape, the same same vineyard, the same venieron who made it, 685 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:52.079 like the actual same like same everything, same grape, except they're from different 686 00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:55.519 years in which the grapes are harvested. What you're doing with Johnny Walker is 687 00:48:55.599 --> 00:49:00.880 almost similar. It's like your palate is good, you're tasting the difference between 688 00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:05.760 a blue and a black and a red. But like it's still one very 689 00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:08.840 specific style of Scotch, even if like there are different qualities to it. 690 00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:13.320 Vintage is different because it's so, like Mary said, it's so dependent, 691 00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:17.159 like sometimes a hurricane hits wine seed and sometimes an earthquake destroys these vats that 692 00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:22.000 were stored, like vintages like have these story behind them. Like like if 693 00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:24.800 you had like a sixty eight Margo Chateau Margo, it's like that's gonna be 694 00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:30.400 incredible, whereas a sixty nine could be terrible because there was way too much 695 00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.840 rainfall throughout the entire year. The grapes just drowned. But like you're basically 696 00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:38.519 describing a vertical of wine, which is when you take several vintages of something, 697 00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:45.480 or even you take six Cabernet savignon's from different vintnors. If I lined 698 00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:49.880 up six, what you're saying is you drink a bottle of this specific wine 699 00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:53.559 at a time, and then maybe two weeks later, you have a different 700 00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:58.159 bottle of wine. I don't think that's that unusual for you to not be 701 00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.440 tasting the difference. I think often and it's comparative tasting where you're like Dan, 702 00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:06.960 I think next time we hang out, if I put like Vionia from 703 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:12.760 southern France next to a Savenon blanc from Sanser next to a Chardonnay from Argentina, 704 00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:15.360 you will night and day see the difference even though they're all even though 705 00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:20.079 they're all dry white wine or VIONI is not you get my point. It's 706 00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:23.039 like, I think the way you drink wine absolutely nothing wrong with it. 707 00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:28.679 Like that's absolutely like how I think most people drink wine. I think it's 708 00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:32.920 just you, you know, Johnny Walker really well, so you're going to 709 00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:36.800 taste the difference between blue red. I don't think it's a bad palette. 710 00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:38.960 I think your palette is just a tune to specific things where it's like, 711 00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:43.599 oh, this is a red, Oh my god, this is blue. 712 00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:45.480 Of course it is. How could it be anything different? If I gave 713 00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:49.199 you a glass of Johnny Walker blue, you would tell me immediately it's not 714 00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:53.159 red. This is blue. Yes, It's not a matter of you not 715 00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:59.840 being capable of telling the difference between a carmon air from Chili and a cabernet 716 00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:05.079 from Bordeaux. It's just sometimes there are weeks between when you have these reds. 717 00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:08.159 It's okay. That's why it's fun, because like that's when you're like, 718 00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:13.679 oh my god, these two wines are from I just had a Merleau 719 00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:21.679 from santem Milion and I had a Cabernet Sauvignon from Grave not even thirty miles 720 00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:25.360 apart, but holy shit, they taste extremely different, very similar grapes. 721 00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:29.639 But like, how could I've not tasted this well because you tasted them neck 722 00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:31.280 and neck, like, of course it's going to taste different. Like that's 723 00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:35.199 when wine gets crazy. To me, but then you get hyper focused and 724 00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:38.840 it's like, again, there's certain wineries in France where it's like you see 725 00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:45.199 a bottle that says Premier Crew or Premier Crew, that literally is assigning a 726 00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:47.679 quality to a wine because it came from a specific hectar, which is two 727 00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:52.719 and a half acres on a vineyard, because the sun hits this part of 728 00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:55.719 a hill at the right time of the year, and then rainfall tends to 729 00:51:55.760 --> 00:52:00.920 slope downwards. But then you get a grand Crew, which the very expensive 730 00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:06.039 bottles from the same exact vineyard, which could be literally a quarter of a 731 00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:10.280 mile away, and because the sun hits it perfectly all year and the rainfall 732 00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:14.639 tends to the irrigation, they can't irrigate, but like the water tends to 733 00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:17.079 slope downward the right way, the grapes suck up water at the right time 734 00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:20.559 they ripe and at the right time to get harvested at the right time. 735 00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:27.000 That's the difference between like eight hundred dollars, and it's like literally a quarter 736 00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:30.199 mile apart. And then you could taste the difference in those What you're saying 737 00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:36.159 is really interesting. But because I'm not drinking the wine, I don't care 738 00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:39.440 as much. No, that's why tastings are fun. That's the thing I 739 00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:44.039 want someone to say to me while I'm drinking an eight hundred dollars glass of 740 00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:50.199 wine. Oh yeah, smart person, like you tell me the difference. 741 00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:52.280 And I could be like, hmm, I can taste it or not, 742 00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:58.079 doesn't really matter, but like this is not as valuable. No, I 743 00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:01.000 know, I know, I know, I thousand percent realized my like rant 744 00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:06.559 right now is not this is my way. But I also want to be 745 00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:09.639 drinking wine when I hear That's why tastings are fun. You do a flight 746 00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:13.199 of six glasses of wine from someone, they know what they're talking about. 747 00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:15.880 Then they will point out to you. It's like they'll ask you really good 748 00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:19.920 questions. They'll be like, hey, try this little glass, what are 749 00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:22.639 some what's the fruit you're picking up? What are some like notes? Like 750 00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:24.679 what are like can you taste anything like? In like is there some weird 751 00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:29.880 like vegetable or bacious kind of things? Like I tasted banana in one of 752 00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:32.760 the scotches and it wasn't listed on the label. And I think it's because 753 00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:37.400 they think it's not a like expensive fruit. I think the banana and some 754 00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:42.320 really good fucking whe It wasn't in their tasting notes, Like they wrote the 755 00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:46.679 tasting notes and they were like, this is charred mango and orange peel, 756 00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:50.800 and I was like, fucking liars, it's banana. You just don't want 757 00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:53.400 to be associated with it because you're elitist in your cunts. But that I 758 00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:57.320 didn't fun, like you can taste, you can taste such different things, 759 00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:00.800 and like that's like you're never gonna get tasted with me. There's no like 760 00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:06.360 ideal palette. Everybody's palette is always going to develop it banana when I taste 761 00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:10.199 it. I think it's objective whether or not something is banana. It's one 762 00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:14.119 thing to say whether or not it's good. But if it has banana, 763 00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:20.000 fuck off blind taste test. You wouldn't know a banana if it was in 764 00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:24.280 your mouth. There's no objection. That's like, I would know a banana. 765 00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:30.159 You're good anti banana. I'm pro banana. Mike has a banana every 766 00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:32.360 morning. He talks about it every time. I know he loves bananas. 767 00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:37.320 Oh you weirdo. The point is is I'm saying that we can discuss like 768 00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:43.800 the subject nature of like palettes and stuff like that bananas are objective. I 769 00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:45.519 know when I taste banana. I tasted banana. It wasn't in their notes, 770 00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:47.960 and I think they left it out intentionally because they think it's like a 771 00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:52.719 poor man's fruit. I don't really know the political nature of bananas and tasting, 772 00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:55.840 but I know they left it out and it was banana. But tasting 773 00:54:55.880 --> 00:55:00.800 can be subjective, is subjective all the time. Right, No, so 774 00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:05.199 Dan must like Hollow Night then, right? Not banana. So Dan has 775 00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:07.599 to like Hollow Night because it's objectively a good game. If it had banana 776 00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:09.840 and he said it didn't have banana in it, I'd be like, you're 777 00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:14.159 objectively wrong. He just said it's not like a very good game, and 778 00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:15.880 I said, you're also objectively wrong. But that's a totally different argument. 779 00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:20.760 You can't just add this in there to set me banana's I'm not taking the 780 00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:22.440 bait. I'm not taking the bait. Thank you. Banana's are objective. 781 00:55:23.599 --> 00:55:30.000 I no, you could taste steal it. You could taste many things in 782 00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:32.039 a wine that other people are gonna tase. Thats why you have a sound 783 00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:37.639 effect that confirms that I won. Mm, thank you. Yeah, I 784 00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:40.199 didn't hear that. It doesn't matter. I don't think my sounds it's a 785 00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:47.639 part. I don't think company, right, all right, Yeah I won? 786 00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:52.119 Okay, Well I wasn't trying to argue to a win or lose. 787 00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:59.239 But you shouldn't not against this guy got companies on Instagram. That's what I'm 788 00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:01.480 going to do coming out of If you get like Laga Uhland to sponsor us, 789 00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:07.039 I will be forever in your debt. Laga BLANDA A l A G 790 00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:12.360 A v U L I N. I don't about sponsor. It's much easier 791 00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:15.000 to just get free ship I found well yeah, or lafreud l A p 792 00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:23.000 h r A Oh down you there's too many weird letters I got. I 793 00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:27.880 got a contact. She's coming over for the Rumble this weekend, so that 794 00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:34.719 while we're at to get the email for Chateau cheval Blanc and sounds on there 795 00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:43.599 and shots cartoon, Chateau Lafite Rothchild would be awesome to Banana Corporation Rothchild, 796 00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:49.840 Chateau Margo Petris and someone step on bananas to make banana wine. It's crazy. 797 00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:52.159 I watched people step on bananas not to make banana wine. Just gets 798 00:56:52.159 --> 00:57:00.000 me going. Yeah, I made both of those up talk about down to 799 00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:05.639 a science. That's my bit. Don't steal my fit of doing a weird 800 00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:12.360 thing into the transition. Okay, we can talk about like A Dragon infinite 801 00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:15.599 wealth. We got it. We got it a while ago. Yeah, 802 00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:19.400 they gave us some lead time, which is nice. It's weird, just 803 00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:22.360 the first time I can remember like two big games coming out, like A 804 00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:24.679 Dragon and Tech and eight. They both went out super early, and they're 805 00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:30.280 embargoes were incredibly lined up from like here's the review embargo on Tuesday, here's 806 00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:32.360 the live stream bargo. But they're two different companies, so that it was 807 00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:35.280 I've never seen it like that, you know. Yeah, Teching was like 808 00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:37.280 an hour earlier or something or vice. It was like lined up even like 809 00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:39.320 that, like okay, give Tech a chance to shine here and then we 810 00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:43.599 got the infinite well stuff coming in. But anyway, yes, we've been 811 00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:47.280 playing for a while like a So I have not played Tech in eight. 812 00:57:47.360 --> 00:57:51.800 Let me be clear about that. I'm interested in it just from a pure 813 00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:59.719 stylistic perspective because I've I've probably played maybe cumulatively three hours of the Techan franchise 814 00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:02.599 and my lifetime. I'd like it from afar. I realize it's batshit, 815 00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:08.280 but I also I would prefer I don't know, I just at first blush. 816 00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:13.159 I prefer Soul Caliber. I like the weapons and shit, I like 817 00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:16.079 I've all. I've played most Mortal Kombat games over the last six centuries. 818 00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:22.400 Street Fighters fine for me. But tech and eight I'm curious about, however, 819 00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:24.800 not to set that up because I want to get to techon eight, 820 00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:29.840 but I am curious about Infinite Wealth. What you think of it, Dan, 821 00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:32.559 because do you? I do, which is interesting because it's a very 822 00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:37.360 cocky game upfront people I've been getting this because people are surprised because it's it 823 00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:40.760 is extremely talky, and not just upront, it's talking throughout. I'm like 824 00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:44.960 twenty two to twenty three hours into it right now, and it's still like 825 00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:47.679 the deeply story focused game, except for the last five hours where I've just 826 00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:52.199 straight up been playing Animal Crossing. But that said, Dodo Island, I 827 00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:57.400 think Dundoko, I think, oh yeah, it takes a really long time 828 00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:00.840 to get going, and I feel like I'm probably twenty ten. On podcasts, 829 00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:02.679 talked about how that's an unforgivable sin and there's no reason to ever have 830 00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:06.719 a game that takes that long to get going. But I guess I give 831 00:59:06.840 --> 00:59:08.239 this in Metal year of pass. I guess I guess if I liked the 832 00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:12.679 story, I give it a pass. It turns out because this one takes 833 00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:15.760 a long fucking time to get going. It starts out I'm not going to 834 00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:17.840 spoil anything in great detail here, but like, it starts out and there's 835 00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:22.599 like several hours kind of setting up with characters you know in Japan, and 836 00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:24.519 then everyone knows from the trailers and everything. You wind up going to Hawaii, 837 00:59:24.760 --> 00:59:29.559 and so that's a whole nother re establishing this place and all these characters 838 00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:32.639 and what you're even doing. It's just a very long time before it's finally 839 00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:37.000 like, all right, go do yakaza stuff. Oh yeah, super super 840 00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:42.000 quickly for those who don't know, because the Yakuza series can be fairly confusing 841 00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:45.920 if you're an outsider, U Yakuza Like a Dragon, which was what two 842 00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:51.280 years ago they like a Dragon? Yeah, Yakaza Like a Dragon was right 843 00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:53.920 at the beginning of the pandemic, I want to say introduced. I think 844 00:59:54.079 --> 01:00:00.400 Itchibon as the protagonist and after Kiriu is the main one from all the Aakuza 845 01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:02.639 games, and again it's the same series, but it was also like in 846 01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:07.400 Japan it was known as like a Dragon, and then over here is Yakuza, 847 01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:12.320 but now it's like a Dragon is the series, although I feel like 848 01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:15.320 they could make ten more like a Dragons and zero yakazas, and I think 849 01:00:15.320 --> 01:00:20.559 we're still going to call it Yakaza because you know, but Yakaza Like a 850 01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:24.639 Dragon was notable because it turned the combat into like this semi turn based, 851 01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:30.480 semi real time kind of thing, which I loved. But this one is 852 01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:36.599 picking up basically right at the end of Yakuza Like a Dragon. Uh, 853 01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:39.920 this one being like a Dragon infinite wealth, where I think, just premise 854 01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:51.920 wise itchibon Kasuga. He is basically working to rehabilitate and or rather reassimilate former 855 01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:58.800 Yakuza members after two big Yakuza families just got obliterated. Rehabilitate these people and 856 01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:02.360 reassimilate them into like civilian life. So he's working for this like freelance job 857 01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:07.079 company, and uh, that goes haywire. So then he goes to Hawaii. 858 01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:10.039 I think it's probably a spoiler to say why he goes to Hawaii, 859 01:01:10.360 --> 01:01:13.639 so we don't have to do that, I will say to find someone, 860 01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:19.559 yes, And but then also I think it's a known fact that Kiriu himself 861 01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:22.519 is also becomes like it's becomes a dual protagonist game. I didn't know that, 862 01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:27.760 and I think I'm an idiot because we we did our game award stuff 863 01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:30.239 and Mary you were there. You saw we had those cardboard cutouts because we 864 01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:34.199 were sponsored by this game them. Yeah it was great, But I heard 865 01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:36.519 several times I think greub was referring to him like oh yeah, I got 866 01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:39.039 itchubon and carry you here. And I kept looking at this like gray haired 867 01:01:39.079 --> 01:01:43.400 guy with this like different haircut. That's not cure you, and like why 868 01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:45.880 do people keep calling him carry you? And like I didn't like when Kiriu 869 01:01:45.960 --> 01:01:49.079 shows up in this game, it was like, oh shit, that's carry 870 01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:52.400 you. Like people were literally calling him carry you for months and I didn't 871 01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:57.760 realize, like, oh he just got a different haircut or he like like 872 01:01:59.159 --> 01:02:01.039 the exact same, like once I figured out of his curios, like oh 873 01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:04.960 yeah, of course that's his fucking face. But I'm just an idiot and 874 01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:07.760 the gray hairs, like that's a different human being. Becomes a dual protagonist 875 01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:10.599 kind of game, not in the sense of like Spider Man switching back and 876 01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:17.880 forth, but like you can you play as he's very tied into the story. 877 01:02:19.159 --> 01:02:22.400 But he's Yeah, he's been the star of like how many like eight 878 01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:27.880 games before zero through seven, plus Guide In and Eashan and all that. 879 01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:34.239 Yeah, I want to like this game more than I do right now, 880 01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:37.920 and I've not played a ton. I have been in Hawaii for maybe an 881 01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:42.000 hour, which is not far. This game could be one hundred hours if 882 01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:49.440 you all, I sincerely just I really need to try to get past this 883 01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:54.840 roadblock of I cannot stand Itchiban as a character, really relate to him in 884 01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:59.079 a way. I've never related to video game characters in my fucking I've never 885 01:02:59.320 --> 01:03:01.880 I don't think there's a single other video game character in history that I've thought. 886 01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:05.800 I relate to this guy, but I relate to it. Gibon, 887 01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:07.840 have you proposed to a woman on your first date? Well? No, 888 01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:10.559 he blew that. He fucking blew that day. That was bad news. 889 01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:15.800 That part I tried to help fact. Yeah no, No, just a 890 01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:17.840 general just like approach George, life and attitude and things like that. I'm 891 01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:20.639 like, I like this guy. I would get along with this guy. 892 01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:25.039 He's great. Some of the some of this game feels rather some of the 893 01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:31.039 writing for him specifically feels like it's surpassing like this kind of like Confederate of 894 01:03:31.079 --> 01:03:37.840 dun Confederacy of Dunce's style OAF and getting cringey. Like I Sometimes when he 895 01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:43.559 talks, I'm like, I can't, dude, I I I no, 896 01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:51.840 one's this dumb. I related to this man. I can't help that. 897 01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:55.000 But like I can my perception of what makes you think dumb? What makes 898 01:03:55.000 --> 01:04:03.800 you think dumb? Dumb's social And I say this as someone who's social can't 899 01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:08.719 pick up on social cues as often as I would like to. But socially 900 01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:13.000 he's endearing. I think I think they make him endearing. But then other 901 01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:19.400 times, his way of approaching situation where he has fucked up socially, his 902 01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:25.559 way of repairing them is like, wow, he went very far in the 903 01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:28.760 opposite direction. And maybe I'm just not in the right mindset. This has 904 01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:33.320 happened before where I'm like, Okay, well, this character, maybe I'm 905 01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:38.719 sure there's a reason that he's just like catapulting in the other direction to compensate 906 01:04:38.719 --> 01:04:42.480 for how weird he was in this one situation. It's not working for me 907 01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:46.519 yet. Maybe it will as I keep playing. I'll talk about this in 908 01:04:46.559 --> 01:04:51.360 a bit, But like I had other things sidetrack me, but I can't 909 01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:55.280 do it. You bond right now? Okay. I want to like him 910 01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:59.320 because I fucking love Yacauz like a dragon is what do you like about him 911 01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:02.519 so much? Day? And that makes you feel like you relate to him? 912 01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:05.199 What? What has he done? Give me like an example of something 913 01:05:05.239 --> 01:05:09.199 you're like I would do that. I just feel like he, uh, 914 01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:13.239 you know, when when problems arise and things like that, he acknowledges them 915 01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:16.239 and he deals with them. And there are moments where he doesn't do it 916 01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:20.400 well, like like Mike said, but I feel like he generally has a 917 01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:27.519 positive outlook on things. I think his demeanor is just very positive and likable 918 01:05:27.719 --> 01:05:30.719 and the way he like befriends people and looks for the best in people, 919 01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:32.480 and it's like, oh, let's have a drink and chat and everything, 920 01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:34.880 or let's go have fun, you know. But then also like when they're 921 01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:38.440 serious stuff, I think he you know, he handles that. He's not 922 01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:43.039 just like this big like ghoul like Homer Simpson idiot or anything. I I 923 01:05:43.079 --> 01:05:46.039 don't know. I think he's fairly well rounded. I don't think he's he's 924 01:05:46.039 --> 01:05:50.280 not serious yachiz abas genius or anything like that. But I think, uh, 925 01:05:50.440 --> 01:05:55.360 I think he's doing the best with what he's got. I want the 926 01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:59.199 best with what he's got. Yeah, he's likable. I think he's socially 927 01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:00.679 I think, you know, yeah, okay, the dating stuff and then 928 01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:02.960 early on in the game like that, yeah he's an idiot about that. 929 01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:08.519 But to be clearly like him making friends and stuff like for instance, this 930 01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:11.960 isn't a huge spoiler. When he first gets to Hawaii, he basically gets 931 01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:15.760 like held up, like he basically like a stam type situation. He gets 932 01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:19.760 mugged, and he winds up like handling it in a way where he actually 933 01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:24.719 befriends that guy and they like kind of learn more about each other and they 934 01:06:24.840 --> 01:06:27.639 kind of, you know, are he becomes part of your party. And 935 01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:29.559 I thought that was such a cool thing where it's like, oh god, 936 01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:31.440 he got kind of fucked over, but instead of like holding a grudge and 937 01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:34.079 being an asshole about it or anything, he like you know, turned it 938 01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:39.280 around and related to someone on a human level and met a new friend, 939 01:06:39.320 --> 01:06:43.239 you know, yeah, I appreciate that. To be clear, Like every 940 01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:46.159 I don't know that I've shared my opinion on him with anybody, Like everybody 941 01:06:46.159 --> 01:06:49.280 had talked to is like, oh wow. No, I'm digging the characters 942 01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:55.199 and like, I like several of the returning characters from like a Dragon, 943 01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:59.760 yahkuz will Like a Dragon, And I love that game. And I think 944 01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:04.559 most of us here are probably like the game's mechanics for we're I think we're 945 01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:11.159 mechanics first before story here. The story has not yet grabbed me, and 946 01:07:12.159 --> 01:07:14.800 I want it to because I want to get to the point where I'm doing 947 01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:16.880 this like animal crossing esque island thing. I'm doing some other mini games. 948 01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:19.599 I'm doing all this stuff where I'm like, like, I love the grind 949 01:07:19.639 --> 01:07:24.800 and the fun little mini games of Yakuza games, but I I don't know, 950 01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:28.079 I can't get there yet, but it's entirely possible. Next episode. 951 01:07:28.119 --> 01:07:32.119 I'm like, holy shit, I'm just like head over heels for this game. 952 01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:38.320 But right now I'm I'm trying to give you some signposts in case you're 953 01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:41.119 you're trying to kind of move forward and get to that. I'd say chapter 954 01:07:41.280 --> 01:07:45.039 four ish is about when it starts really opening up or you can just really 955 01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:47.840 what's that If I've been in Hawaii for an hour, what chapter would that 956 01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:51.880 be? Probably in two, I think, probably about to start three, 957 01:07:53.760 --> 01:07:57.199 and then chapter six, I believe, is when you start the Dundoko Island 958 01:07:57.280 --> 01:08:01.840 stuff and the stuff you have seen so far, Mike, that I absolutely 959 01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:04.519 love is the combat system, like the back that, Yeah, this is 960 01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:09.400 a talkie game with a turn based battle system, and I fucking love it. 961 01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:13.639 These are like two things I have historically hated, but I typically haven't 962 01:08:13.719 --> 01:08:15.880 liked the auxias. I've never disliked the Aucuisis series, but I never typically 963 01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:19.079 finished them because I always thought the combat was very kind of like stiff, 964 01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:23.520 and I never loved the feel of the combat. And it happens so fucking 965 01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:29.319 often, and one time in history it switches from real time action fighting to 966 01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:31.680 turn based and that's what gets me into it, because I think this turn 967 01:08:31.720 --> 01:08:35.359 based combat is so fucking good that I never dread going into fights. You 968 01:08:35.399 --> 01:08:39.640 know, there's so many fights with random you know, hooligans on the street, 969 01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:43.439 and I'm always loving it. With the job system stuff. You probably 970 01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:45.359 haven't gotten to that yet, Mike, the job system is great, but 971 01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:48.840 I I love that in Yakuza like a dragon, so I'm expecting to like 972 01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:51.760 it here and people have pointed out but it's funny. Also, the combat 973 01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:56.880 is very wrestling. It's like if you're near a prop that you can use 974 01:08:57.199 --> 01:09:00.279 and you get smash it in their face straight cone or a bike or something 975 01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:04.800 in The positioning is huge if you are you can knock them into other people 976 01:09:04.800 --> 01:09:09.640 if you position it right, which yes, like for anybody who hasn't seen. 977 01:09:09.680 --> 01:09:16.720 Basically it's turn based, but you whoever, whichever characters turn it is, 978 01:09:16.760 --> 01:09:23.520 you can move freely within a little like circle and then attack. Take 979 01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:26.680 as much time as you want to line up an attack on whomever you want, 980 01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:30.159 provided they are in the right area, and then you can line them 981 01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:31.920 up and knock them into other people. Well, there's a proximity bonus. 982 01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:36.159 If you attack someone inside your circle, you can attack anyone, but if 983 01:09:36.159 --> 01:09:39.640 they're outside that proximity bonus, you're not going to hurt them as much. 984 01:09:39.960 --> 01:09:44.119 Yes, the condition outside of it, you can't move outside of it, 985 01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:46.039 right, you can attack outside of it, So like if somebody's thirty feet 986 01:09:46.039 --> 01:09:49.359 outside your circle, you can still target and attack but everybody's but like during 987 01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:53.600 this time when you're lining things up, everybody in the brawl is kind of 988 01:09:53.640 --> 01:09:58.279 like rope a doping and waiting for you to punch or kick or throw them. 989 01:09:58.399 --> 01:10:00.039 But they will line up sometimes so you can stuff. So let's say 990 01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:03.119 I'm the taxi driver guy and he has a move where he throws a tire 991 01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:05.880 in a straight line. You can kind of wait until like, oh, 992 01:10:05.880 --> 01:10:08.960 those three guys are lined up, and then you can hit all three of 993 01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:12.079 them. So there is like it's turn based, but there's real time elements 994 01:10:12.119 --> 01:10:15.960 to it. There's timing things. There's like QTE style things. If you 995 01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:18.520 have increased your bond with certain characters. Let's say me and that taxi driver 996 01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:21.479 I've done these drink link things where I see him sitting at a bar, 997 01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:25.600 I can go talk to him and you know, we'll have a chat about 998 01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:28.119 like oh, his his X and whether he should try to get back with 999 01:10:28.159 --> 01:10:30.960 her or whatever. And that increases your level in your bond, and you 1000 01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:33.520 do that enough and it'll be like, okay, now these two can do 1001 01:10:33.560 --> 01:10:35.880 a tag team thing in battle. If they're in battle together, you can 1002 01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:40.760 do this pick attack together, or if you know I knock a guy down, 1003 01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:43.880 taxi driver guy will come and attack him on the ground because you have 1004 01:10:43.960 --> 01:10:45.960 that bond from drinking and talking to each other and stuff like that. So 1005 01:10:46.359 --> 01:10:49.439 a lot of really fun ways. Like all these systems I think work together 1006 01:10:49.640 --> 01:10:56.000 in some really smart ways. Yeah, it's it's such a Also, like 1007 01:10:56.239 --> 01:10:59.239 for Turn Bay's combat, it's it's I'm playing on Xbox. I don't know 1008 01:10:59.239 --> 01:11:00.039 if it would make a different that what I'm playing on, and it's so 1009 01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:03.840 crunchy, like when I hit a guy into another guy into another guy, 1010 01:11:03.880 --> 01:11:09.920 it feels great, like it's it's it reminds me of like God so weird. 1011 01:11:10.039 --> 01:11:13.319 It reminds me of Octopath Traveler too, which is a two D sprite 1012 01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:16.960 based game. Like but like there's impact in this turn based combat, and 1013 01:11:17.159 --> 01:11:21.640 I love that there's no long unskippable like in fight sequence. You can hit 1014 01:11:21.680 --> 01:11:25.560 a pretty quickly through that stuff, so like it's really snappy. There's no 1015 01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:28.119 loading into it. It's just kind of like all right, the fight starting, 1016 01:11:28.119 --> 01:11:30.159 boom boom bom bom boom. Okay, you're done, move on. 1017 01:11:30.479 --> 01:11:33.000 So it's yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to I want to get 1018 01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:35.880 to the point where this game opens up and I'm liking it like other stuff 1019 01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:41.760 has sidetracked me. But I really want to like this game because I fucking 1020 01:11:41.840 --> 01:11:45.439 loved Yakuz Like a Dragon, and this seems like it's doing some cool new 1021 01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:48.560 stuff mechanically. I story's not gripping me, but I I don't need it. 1022 01:11:48.640 --> 01:11:55.039 Money. Yeah, yes, yes, I considered so connected to and 1023 01:11:55.079 --> 01:11:58.000 I played like a Dragon. It was like, this is funny. It's 1024 01:11:58.079 --> 01:12:01.000 stupid, it's endearing, it's funny. It's made me laugh so many times. 1025 01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:03.760 I've laughed out loud playing by myself, which I never do. I 1026 01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:06.640 think games in general are bad at humor, and this game is funny as 1027 01:12:06.640 --> 01:12:11.680 hell. It also did something I really appreciate, especially with the game as 1028 01:12:11.720 --> 01:12:15.359 talking is this. It's because you'll see the pink icon on your map for 1029 01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:17.319 the main story mission you're going to, and you never know if it's the 1030 01:12:17.359 --> 01:12:20.520 thing where it's like a conversation that takes thirty seconds and then you're free to 1031 01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:24.880 do whatever, or if it's literally like an hour and a half cut scene 1032 01:12:24.920 --> 01:12:28.399 bananza. And there was a night where I was playing and I was like, 1033 01:12:28.479 --> 01:12:30.600 ah, I kind of want to see one more thing, but I'm 1034 01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:32.279 probably go to bed in like fifteen twenty minutes, and I went up and 1035 01:12:32.319 --> 01:12:35.399 I talked to the character at the pink dot, and it said something I'm 1036 01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:39.800 paraphrasing, but it was like, hey, following this character will start an 1037 01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:43.199 extended sequence. You're not gonna be able to save or exit for a while. 1038 01:12:43.479 --> 01:12:46.159 And I was like, fucking thank you. I never see that in 1039 01:12:46.199 --> 01:12:48.800 a game, and you told me exactly what I need to know at the 1040 01:12:48.880 --> 01:12:51.039 right time, where it's like, that's exactly what I did. I would 1041 01:12:51.039 --> 01:12:55.640 have been pissed off if any other game would have sent me into this thing 1042 01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:58.119 and I'd be locked in and going to bed an hour and a half after. 1043 01:12:58.159 --> 01:13:01.159 I want to That's such a nice quality of life thing that I noticed. 1044 01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:06.039 Yes, that's awesome. I like that a lot. I don't fight 1045 01:13:06.159 --> 01:13:12.720 very much. This is fun. Are we fighting right now? We just 1046 01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:15.840 like a little differently, the most amicable like, hey, I'm not loving 1047 01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:18.399 this, I want to like it, and I love it kind of conversation. 1048 01:13:18.479 --> 01:13:25.760 Ever, stop trying to cause shiit Mary seeing cracks in the foundation. 1049 01:13:27.479 --> 01:13:30.520 I have argued with Dan many times in my lifetime. Oh yeah, Mary, 1050 01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:32.760 what have you been playing? Oh no, sorry, Dan, final 1051 01:13:32.760 --> 01:13:36.439 thoughts? Oh final thoughts. Also, the Animal Crossing Ship is awesome because 1052 01:13:36.479 --> 01:13:41.880 like, as much as I love Animal Crossing, this is that without the 1053 01:13:42.159 --> 01:13:44.840 timers, so like you don't have to like, oh I did six things 1054 01:13:44.840 --> 01:13:46.920 and now I wait till tomorrow. Uh, it's all in game. You 1055 01:13:47.039 --> 01:13:49.800 just go through it. It's got like fighting and stuff in it. It's 1056 01:13:49.880 --> 01:13:54.239 less Nintendo bullshit. It's more actually kind of like smartly designed stuff. And 1057 01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:58.119 it's surprisingly deep as far as the amount of as you're clearing these areas out 1058 01:13:58.159 --> 01:14:00.760 and you can build like I'm putting together entire like shopping districts, and like 1059 01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:04.079 I'm inviting these guests in, I'm catering to like what they like, and 1060 01:14:04.479 --> 01:14:08.800 it is it is a game in itself for sure. It does not feel 1061 01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:12.319 like a side thing at all. So yeah, I want to get to 1062 01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:14.680 the point where I'm doing that shit, because again, that's like I think 1063 01:14:14.720 --> 01:14:19.800 when the two Yakuza games I played, Being Kiwami and Yakuza Like a Dragon, 1064 01:14:19.880 --> 01:14:23.680 when I started getting to the side the mini games, like all right, 1065 01:14:24.279 --> 01:14:27.359 now I'm into it. I want to like it. I'm going to 1066 01:14:27.479 --> 01:14:30.680 keep playing it. I'm going to give it a chance. It's my favorite 1067 01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:34.359 Yakaza I've ever played, okay, An, I'm not like a super long 1068 01:14:34.399 --> 01:14:38.319 time you know yakaz the obsessive or anything, but like it's I've played a 1069 01:14:38.359 --> 01:14:41.079 lot of them. This is my favorite, and this is also my favorite 1070 01:14:41.119 --> 01:14:44.920 turn based combat I've ever seen. And how far have you been playing? 1071 01:14:44.920 --> 01:14:46.640 How many hours? Twenty two hours? I'd say around there, Yeah, 1072 01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:50.520 that's t show and I'm only liking it more the more I play it. 1073 01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:56.239 But seriously, that turn based combat. I played enough games of turn based 1074 01:14:56.239 --> 01:14:59.359 combat, but I'm not like a j RPG guy. I can confidently say 1075 01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:04.159 this is the best turn based combat I've ever played, though, So okay, 1076 01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:10.239 interesting, Mary, there's this game called pal World. I don't think. 1077 01:15:10.479 --> 01:15:13.880 I don't, so I'm kind of torn on whether to talk about it 1078 01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:17.159 because I don't think anybody has like said anything about it online. Everyone's in 1079 01:15:17.159 --> 01:15:23.640 an agreement about it, and it's been kind of adding to it. Right, 1080 01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:26.800 Dan, there is this joke lost on you. I'm well, I 1081 01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:30.600 know, I know there is controversy about it. I know people are talking 1082 01:15:30.640 --> 01:15:31.800 about it, and I don't know just because it's what is it? What's 1083 01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:35.479 the general? What are people pissed off out? Because it's is that people 1084 01:15:35.520 --> 01:15:40.880 are upset that they feel that it was possible that this game and these are 1085 01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:44.920 uncorroborated, And I think that's important. So the jury is not out, 1086 01:15:45.239 --> 01:15:50.680 but there are people that feel that this game has stolen ideas or straight up 1087 01:15:50.720 --> 01:16:00.199 assets from other games again substantiated and used AI, which is a very very 1088 01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:03.439 controversial topic and gaming right now. Of you know, how it was able 1089 01:16:03.479 --> 01:16:09.840 to create such a vast world with such a small team and essentially make what 1090 01:16:09.960 --> 01:16:15.279 I would consider a very legitimate Pokemon competitor. Is success, Like it's doing 1091 01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:21.640 that well where it's like it is Pokemon level success well on Steam right now? 1092 01:16:21.720 --> 01:16:27.079 Yeah, it's did it. So today we were looking at whether it 1093 01:16:27.119 --> 01:16:32.279 would cross the record for highest concurrent players on Steam, highest current which is 1094 01:16:32.319 --> 01:16:39.800 like the record to be like this is mad and league and everything. But 1095 01:16:40.560 --> 01:16:45.600 it's your question, Dan, I Marry maybe like feel free to refute this. 1096 01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:49.079 I don't. It's I wouldn't say it's like more popular than Pokemon. 1097 01:16:50.279 --> 01:16:55.760 It's not in terms of like cultural geist. No, I'm just answering Dan's 1098 01:16:55.840 --> 01:17:01.359 question in terms of current players. Sure, yes, this game is uh, 1099 01:17:01.520 --> 01:17:05.960 it's like number one in cellars on Steam. Which is crazy guns of 1100 01:17:06.039 --> 01:17:14.239 records. It was up. Let me look this up a while. No 1101 01:17:14.399 --> 01:17:19.520 twenty seven bucks. It's a survival the cheapest drug there is. You don't 1102 01:17:19.560 --> 01:17:26.439 want none of power, Dan, This got ai It's cheap as hell. 1103 01:17:27.119 --> 01:17:30.840 You're gonna get addicted. You don't want none a peal gun, Dan, 1104 01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:36.000 it's Pokemon with guns. You're not gonna want to get into this. I 1105 01:17:36.079 --> 01:17:42.920 think you can't kill them, damn. Oh yeah, I want it. 1106 01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:46.199 These guns. They got many guns and gatling guns and shotguns, and you 1107 01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:49.560 can butcher them and you can put them to work in your camp. Do 1108 01:17:49.640 --> 01:17:54.239 they bleed and stuff? They don't? They have They have cruelty. They 1109 01:17:54.279 --> 01:18:00.920 have delightful death animations where they have police squirrels for eyes. Okay, it's 1110 01:18:00.920 --> 01:18:06.039 not base building, dam So. It combines a lot of things that you 1111 01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:13.079 would like from other games and makes it one universally good game. Question here, 1112 01:18:13.520 --> 01:18:16.800 is it actually considered to be a good video game or is this just 1113 01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:19.800 like because I I don't give a fuck about Pokemon, I never have. 1114 01:18:20.119 --> 01:18:24.880 My understanding is recent Pokemon games, people are pissed off by the performance because 1115 01:18:24.920 --> 01:18:29.119 the stitch can't handle the river, that there is a Pokemon thing that runs 1116 01:18:29.159 --> 01:18:30.800 well. Let me let me, let me let me say, I think 1117 01:18:30.840 --> 01:18:38.319 we are potentially getting into a rabbit hole asking whether everybody thinks I want to 1118 01:18:38.359 --> 01:18:43.640 know whether Mary thinks, specifically, if it's a Pokemon competitor. Sure, 1119 01:18:44.359 --> 01:18:47.840 I will tell you perspective. It's crazy my limited time playing it, because 1120 01:18:47.840 --> 01:18:55.079 there is a lot of cultural opinion about the impact that this has on the 1121 01:18:55.119 --> 01:19:00.399 industry, like the it's wild that the impact that this game is having is 1122 01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:04.760 making us question is this a good or bad influence on game design? I 1123 01:19:04.800 --> 01:19:12.439 will just tell you from my time playing Power World, this game is really 1124 01:19:12.479 --> 01:19:16.479 good. It's really good. I like it. If I don't care about 1125 01:19:16.520 --> 01:19:19.680 Pokemon, you're gonna like it. Dan. Let me. I'm sending you 1126 01:19:19.720 --> 01:19:24.199 a screenshot in our discord. Okay, Mary keep talking. I'm gonna I'm 1127 01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:27.800 gonna have Dan look at the screenshot since I think it's pretty indicative of the 1128 01:19:27.800 --> 01:19:30.319 game. Let me tell you, like some bonuses of this game. This 1129 01:19:30.439 --> 01:19:35.479 game is really focused on things like base building and world exploring, which we've 1130 01:19:35.560 --> 01:19:41.680 had in other games. But what did you say? I'm sorry, Mike 1131 01:19:41.720 --> 01:19:48.199 Mahrty just sent me a picture of three sheep on gatling guns snow. That's 1132 01:19:48.199 --> 01:19:53.520 to distract you know that he asked if he would like it. That's the 1133 01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:58.039 most dan image ever. Funny you would like it. It's absoly funny you 1134 01:19:58.119 --> 01:20:01.399 are. And for the sake of how convenient it is. They have other 1135 01:20:01.439 --> 01:20:05.880 words for a lot of these animals and for poke balls. I'm just gonna 1136 01:20:05.880 --> 01:20:11.800 say pokemon and poke balls, because we all know what the hells are you 1137 01:20:11.880 --> 01:20:15.119 capturing them in balls. You capture them in balls, and then they are 1138 01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:18.760 yours. Here's what's really cool about it. When you're building your base with 1139 01:20:18.880 --> 01:20:25.720 stuff that's in the world right like wood and rock and other various materials. 1140 01:20:26.079 --> 01:20:29.039 One of the things that really sucks about those types of materials is like once 1141 01:20:29.039 --> 01:20:31.279 you do it, you're like, I have to feed all my uh you 1142 01:20:31.319 --> 01:20:33.079 know, I have to feed all my animals. I have to wake up 1143 01:20:33.119 --> 01:20:35.079 and I have to deal with it, and I have to water my crops 1144 01:20:35.159 --> 01:20:39.199 or I have to like do all this stuff. You can assign all this 1145 01:20:39.319 --> 01:20:43.720 work to your pals, So imagine like instead of having to wake up and 1146 01:20:43.760 --> 01:20:46.279 deal with that stuff every day, you're like, this morning, I'm gonna 1147 01:20:46.279 --> 01:20:51.119 get my pals to chop wood, bring in rocks and feed all the other 1148 01:20:51.279 --> 01:20:55.800 pals so that I can do the stuff that I fucking want to do, 1149 01:20:56.119 --> 01:21:01.319 which is explore the area and like discover brand new types of pals and try 1150 01:21:01.359 --> 01:21:06.039 and take them down. The amount of like the vast world of these pals 1151 01:21:06.239 --> 01:21:11.000 is nuts. So when I was going on my first little hike in the 1152 01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:14.359 woods, just to see what the area was about, I came across a 1153 01:21:14.680 --> 01:21:19.680 massive, massive, like Pokemon creature. He looked like a big elephant, 1154 01:21:19.960 --> 01:21:24.920 and he was so big I knew I couldn't take him down. His health 1155 01:21:24.960 --> 01:21:30.720 bar was like really too big for me. But the ability, the idea 1156 01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:36.600 that one day I could chip away at this monstrosity and bring him home and 1157 01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:44.359 then have him collect eggs to feed the rest of my Pokemon very appealing to 1158 01:21:44.439 --> 01:21:48.399 me. I was very excited about this. When you're chipping away at all 1159 01:21:48.439 --> 01:21:54.760 this stuff, you make your own poke balls through the environmental assets. So 1160 01:21:54.800 --> 01:21:57.680 you have to get I forget what it's called, but like just imagine it's 1161 01:21:57.720 --> 01:22:02.960 some kind of like or or of the area, pel ethereum whatever, and 1162 01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:06.840 you chop it up and then that's how you make these poke balls. You 1163 01:22:06.920 --> 01:22:10.640 have to just like Pokemon, you have to kind of chip away at them. 1164 01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:13.439 If you throw a Pokemon and it's got one hundred percent health, you're 1165 01:22:13.439 --> 01:22:15.920 not gonna get him. If you get him to like under twenty percent health, 1166 01:22:16.680 --> 01:22:19.640 you have a decent shot of getting him into a poke ball. But 1167 01:22:19.720 --> 01:22:26.000 this is a bunch of factors, and if you send the ball out there 1168 01:22:26.039 --> 01:22:29.159 and it doesn't collect them, you lose the ball. So it is precious 1169 01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:31.520 resources. You're like trying to make sure that you're doing a good job your 1170 01:22:31.520 --> 01:22:36.039 Pokemon friends. Once you collect them, you can either set them to work 1171 01:22:36.079 --> 01:22:41.720 in your base to do stuff like build, collect stuff, go to work. 1172 01:22:42.279 --> 01:22:45.199 You can have them come with you on your adventures and they protect you 1173 01:22:45.399 --> 01:22:48.119 and so like I was out on an adventure and I got attacked by some 1174 01:22:48.279 --> 01:22:51.359 Rando and all my Pokemon came out, were like, all right, let's 1175 01:22:51.359 --> 01:22:55.239 fucking kill this guy, and a couple of them died in battle. Made 1176 01:22:55.279 --> 01:22:58.640 me feel very proud that they did that for me. It was really really 1177 01:22:58.640 --> 01:23:00.680 fun. I haven't even scratched the Survices game. I have not played with 1178 01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:03.720 guns yet, and I'm having a great time. Oh it takes while, 1179 01:23:03.920 --> 01:23:08.359 apparently, I think I think you have to earn those guns, but the 1180 01:23:08.399 --> 01:23:14.199 fact that they've beencluded it is there a story, is a quest is fully 1181 01:23:14.239 --> 01:23:16.600 open like survival RPG open. It's an open world, and there's lots of 1182 01:23:16.680 --> 01:23:21.000 environments and things that you can explore. There's uh NPCs. So you're playing 1183 01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:25.680 this in servers, which I think is also an important factor here because I'm 1184 01:23:25.680 --> 01:23:30.319 not playing this game solo. I'm joining a server with my friends who already 1185 01:23:30.439 --> 01:23:33.680 had a base. They introduced me just like so many other games that you 1186 01:23:33.760 --> 01:23:36.680 love in today's world, where you could just like play with your buds, 1187 01:23:36.880 --> 01:23:40.720 and then we go exploring together and I'm like, what do you guys need? 1188 01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:42.960 Like, what resource do you need? I'll go get it. Oh 1189 01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:46.800 my god. They have uh what's a glider's and so you can like jump 1190 01:23:46.840 --> 01:23:54.720 off a cliff and you can just glide down to the next area to go 1191 01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:58.960 get more resources or go collect more Pokemon. It's very addicting. I mean, 1192 01:23:59.279 --> 01:24:01.079 I'm going through all the nice stuff. I will tell you my criticisms, 1193 01:24:01.079 --> 01:24:08.560 but like it's fun, like it's it's It is a reasonable opinion to 1194 01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:15.399 say this game has tapped something that I've always wanted in Pokemon games, which 1195 01:24:15.439 --> 01:24:18.399 is like Pokemon as it is just collecting Pokemon. It's fine, but it 1196 01:24:18.479 --> 01:24:23.359 needed a bit of an evolution. It needed a push, and this is 1197 01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:26.720 this is a huge part of it. It's base building. You can play 1198 01:24:26.720 --> 01:24:31.079 with your friends in your friends server. Your Pokemon are doing grunt work so 1199 01:24:31.119 --> 01:24:34.159 that you don't have to like take care of your base all the time and 1200 01:24:34.199 --> 01:24:40.760 do menial tasks that you're beyond. You can focus on adventuring. Yes, 1201 01:24:41.279 --> 01:24:44.199 it allows you to do the things that are the most fun in the game. 1202 01:24:45.239 --> 01:24:53.000 And acquiring your pals is exciting because you never know what you're gonna come 1203 01:24:53.039 --> 01:24:56.359 across. So if you see a flying pal and I have seen like a 1204 01:24:56.479 --> 01:25:00.000 big dragon pals like flying in the sky, all I do is think about, 1205 01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:01.840 like, oh, I wonder how I could get that. I wonder 1206 01:25:01.880 --> 01:25:05.119 how I could take him down. That would be so cool. But it 1207 01:25:05.159 --> 01:25:10.119 takes It's going to take some time before I'm ready to get that guy. 1208 01:25:10.199 --> 01:25:13.640 But I mean the dreams are there. It's just solving all sorts of really 1209 01:25:13.640 --> 01:25:19.079 interesting ambitions that I wanted our original pokemons to do. But this this game 1210 01:25:19.199 --> 01:25:21.760 has it. It has a lot of good stuff in it. Is there 1211 01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:25.479 a bit of like Monster Hunter here too, Like based on you're describing, 1212 01:25:25.520 --> 01:25:27.359 like, you know, these big things you had to work towards me. 1213 01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:30.199 You're getting with friends to take these things down is prepared. You have to 1214 01:25:30.239 --> 01:25:33.680 be prepared to take down a pal And I do think that I asked. 1215 01:25:34.199 --> 01:25:39.600 We did work as a team to take down one larger pal ones one time, 1216 01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:42.359 Like the whole crew died trying to take down a pal because it was 1217 01:25:42.399 --> 01:25:45.560 just stronger than us and we weren't prepared properly. And I thought that was 1218 01:25:45.640 --> 01:25:47.840 kind of cool. Yes, I don't think it's like Monster Hunter with that's 1219 01:25:47.840 --> 01:25:50.920 such a huge focus of it, and you're like carving up their carcass to 1220 01:25:50.920 --> 01:25:57.279 make a really cool bird suit. But being able to get them down to 1221 01:25:57.359 --> 01:26:00.560 that very minuscule percent where they're not dead but you can throw a ball at 1222 01:26:00.600 --> 01:26:04.800 them and collect them. That fucking feels ace. And then you have them 1223 01:26:05.119 --> 01:26:09.399 and you can utilize them in all sorts of ways. You can have them 1224 01:26:09.439 --> 01:26:13.840 be your companion as you're venturing from now on. I mean, that would 1225 01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:16.640 be so rad to be able to have that giant elephant Pokemon just hanging out 1226 01:26:16.680 --> 01:26:20.199 with you, beating the shit out of anybody that messes with you. But 1227 01:26:20.520 --> 01:26:26.520 that's bragging, right, So that's cool. Yeah, we're so for context, 1228 01:26:26.880 --> 01:26:30.960 I'm looking at another screenshot where there's a little like leafy on pal looking 1229 01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:36.640 thing with an AK forty seven. It's been gotten there briefly. So we're 1230 01:26:36.640 --> 01:26:42.960 recording this on January twenty fifth. It briefly yesterday, on the twenty fourth, 1231 01:26:43.079 --> 01:26:49.239 surpassed Fortnite on Xbox. Isn't that nuts? No? So so the 1232 01:26:49.239 --> 01:26:55.399 you record for concurrent players on Steam do either? You know, pop quiz 1233 01:26:55.840 --> 01:27:02.000 what what game? Fortnite? Counter Strike Pubs? Three point three point two 1234 01:27:02.119 --> 01:27:09.680 million yesterday, still has a while to go, but it's it's High Power 1235 01:27:09.720 --> 01:27:14.720 World Cross two million concurrent players. Oh shit, fuck a ton of people 1236 01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:16.560 are playing this game. It's people playing it. Whatever you think about it. 1237 01:27:16.560 --> 01:27:19.920 It's big, but like there's also all this ship wrapped up in it. 1238 01:27:19.960 --> 01:27:23.439 But like it's all had to admit something to you, guys, though 1239 01:27:24.800 --> 01:27:29.319 I intentionally kished this game. This game is on game Pass. Yeah, 1240 01:27:29.359 --> 01:27:32.000 you can play it on game Pass right now? Oh yeah, you want 1241 01:27:32.119 --> 01:27:36.319 to support them? Yeah? No, or you don't want to you want 1242 01:27:36.319 --> 01:27:40.439 to play on a different platform. I want to play with my friends, 1243 01:27:41.039 --> 01:27:45.760 and there's no cross play to buy it on Steam, play it with my 1244 01:27:45.800 --> 01:27:51.520 buddies on the intentionalish I've purchased it least that I can play with my friends. 1245 01:27:51.560 --> 01:27:57.840 Oxy mooron you can't intentionally kiss intentional Yeah is uh, it's what sixteen 1246 01:27:57.880 --> 01:28:00.920 players for a server is that? And I remember correctly, I don't have 1247 01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:05.119 sixteen friends. I wouldn't know. We didn't max it out right now, 1248 01:28:05.359 --> 01:28:12.560 Yeah, I have for a server. But to Mike's credit, there is 1249 01:28:12.840 --> 01:28:16.800 some controversy surrounding it, and I absolutely can see where the controversy is coming 1250 01:28:16.800 --> 01:28:20.920 from. So just as an overview of some of the things this game is 1251 01:28:20.960 --> 01:28:30.600 being heavily criticized for. Is Richard Nixon his son is working on which only 1252 01:28:30.039 --> 01:28:35.000 which only increases my love of this game. Been propping it up on Twitch. 1253 01:28:35.520 --> 01:28:41.279 It's very political. Most of the issues with this game is based on 1254 01:28:41.720 --> 01:28:46.600 accusations that the game is stealing assets or is using AI to essentially like make 1255 01:28:46.640 --> 01:28:55.479 lots of assets at mass quantity. The developer has not confirmed any of this 1256 01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:59.640 stuff, and there's no evidence that is making it like proof that this has 1257 01:28:59.680 --> 01:29:03.520 happened, which I think is a shame because it's embroiled in this huge controversy 1258 01:29:03.560 --> 01:29:06.880 of whether or not it's even you should even be able to make some kind 1259 01:29:06.920 --> 01:29:11.479 of cookie cutter crap game like this, but it's not cookie cutter. It 1260 01:29:11.520 --> 01:29:14.960 took a lot of time and energy for developers to make an open world with 1261 01:29:15.079 --> 01:29:19.199 base building and all these creatures like this. So I do think there was 1262 01:29:19.239 --> 01:29:24.359 obviously a lot of effort that went into this game. But when you talk 1263 01:29:24.399 --> 01:29:29.079 about originality, I would say that it is questionable whether or not they were 1264 01:29:29.159 --> 01:29:36.039 very original and very inspired by Pokemon when they were building these creatures. That 1265 01:29:36.199 --> 01:29:39.439 being said, I also just want to say the other part of this, 1266 01:29:39.479 --> 01:29:44.680 which is Pokemon is a little bit like the Simpsons, where they've done everything. 1267 01:29:45.279 --> 01:29:50.399 It's almost impossible to make a cartoon style sheep creature and have it not 1268 01:29:50.520 --> 01:29:56.680 look a little bit like a Pokemon sheep creature. You know, they're based 1269 01:29:56.720 --> 01:30:00.479 on real animals that are kind of merged with other animals. It's very Pokemon 1270 01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:03.840 esque. But that doesn't mean that Pokemon owns all those ideas. Like sometimes 1271 01:30:03.880 --> 01:30:10.199 you just make a character that looks like a kangaroo and and it's just it's 1272 01:30:10.239 --> 01:30:14.760 just its own character. It's not a Pokemon. We're talking about Nintendo, 1273 01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:23.800 Nintendo likes to be overly protective of it, and also like video games. 1274 01:30:25.720 --> 01:30:29.479 I I challenge you to point out one video game in the last decade that 1275 01:30:29.600 --> 01:30:33.439 was not derivative in some way, just me an image of it looks like 1276 01:30:33.439 --> 01:30:36.600 a Monkeyball character with a weed leaf on his forehead, just carrying around in 1277 01:30:36.680 --> 01:30:45.399 ak Yep, that's that's Power World. That's classic. So I've gone back 1278 01:30:45.439 --> 01:30:47.760 and forth a bit. I'm a bit back and forth on it because I 1279 01:30:47.800 --> 01:30:53.520 will tell you, as someone who's played this game, as this game started, 1280 01:30:54.199 --> 01:30:58.239 if you were to close your eyes, Dan, you might be like, 1281 01:30:58.800 --> 01:31:03.960 am I playing Zelda? Right? Because the audio of this game, 1282 01:31:04.079 --> 01:31:10.239 the sound effects and some of the tones, oh like Breath the World weirdly 1283 01:31:10.680 --> 01:31:17.520 reminiscent of Breath of the Wild, like too like it makes me uncomfortable because 1284 01:31:17.680 --> 01:31:23.720 I am the first person to say inspiration is free. Get inspiration. People 1285 01:31:23.760 --> 01:31:27.399 can't own everything, like go for it, you know, if you love 1286 01:31:27.439 --> 01:31:31.079 something, make your own version of it. But when I unlocked my first 1287 01:31:31.079 --> 01:31:35.359 fast travel station, it made a tone and I went, oh, my 1288 01:31:35.680 --> 01:31:40.600 god, that's Breath of the Wild. You guys ripped that shit. Obviously 1289 01:31:40.640 --> 01:31:45.399 it's not literally ripped. They didn't steal the sound effect, but the tone, 1290 01:31:45.680 --> 01:31:53.960 the melody, the instruments that they used, whatever they did. They 1291 01:31:54.000 --> 01:31:59.680 gave their audio designer Breath of the Wild and they said, you make this 1292 01:31:59.720 --> 01:32:01.439 exzact sound, you little bit, And he was like, yes, ma'am. 1293 01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:06.680 And that's what they have. It is. It is inspired to a 1294 01:32:06.840 --> 01:32:12.560 fault, I would say, but I would not say that they have stolen 1295 01:32:12.680 --> 01:32:15.319 it, but I I feel it. When I played that, I was 1296 01:32:15.319 --> 01:32:18.920 like, you guys did not do this. You did not do this with 1297 01:32:19.039 --> 01:32:26.359 honor. I can make the noise in my mouth like when you're picking up 1298 01:32:26.399 --> 01:32:32.439 apples, Like maybe I'll send you guys the audio for when you unlock fast 1299 01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:39.359 Travel a fast Travel beacon in pal And I think you guys will be like, 1300 01:32:39.720 --> 01:32:43.239 whoa, it's not just the tone. He'll be like, how did 1301 01:32:43.279 --> 01:32:49.159 they How did they get the exact same instrument sound with like the reverb and 1302 01:32:49.199 --> 01:32:54.239 the right like lightness to it. It's so similar that you would be like, 1303 01:32:54.319 --> 01:32:59.239 that's too similar. Well as I think they just parodiedd or they like 1304 01:32:59.399 --> 01:33:01.479 mimicked it like very heavily. It's it's hard to describe it. I do 1305 01:33:01.560 --> 01:33:04.720 think that's littered throughout the entire game. I would think you could say that 1306 01:33:04.760 --> 01:33:11.279 to the creatures, are they too close? I think they are too close? 1307 01:33:11.720 --> 01:33:15.199 But did they copy them? That's for lawyers to decide. I wouldn't 1308 01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:21.800 know, but I'm seeing the inspiration so heavily throughout this game. Interesting to 1309 01:33:21.840 --> 01:33:25.159 try to figure out like where the line is with stuff like that, because 1310 01:33:25.199 --> 01:33:30.039 like even with infinite Wealth, there is a sujiman system. It's called Sujimon, 1311 01:33:30.239 --> 01:33:32.159 and they started this in the last one, but it's just like it's 1312 01:33:32.199 --> 01:33:35.359 insane in this one, where it's like you you'll fight people, so it'll 1313 01:33:35.399 --> 01:33:38.319 be like, oh, you know, hooligans, You're you know, just 1314 01:33:38.399 --> 01:33:42.279 a g rowdy pro wrestlers on the street that you fight, and at the 1315 01:33:42.359 --> 01:33:45.119 end they'll be you know, you have the option to talk to them and 1316 01:33:45.159 --> 01:33:46.720 give them a gift, and then you can kind of do this little mini 1317 01:33:46.720 --> 01:33:48.920 game to see if you catch them, and if you give them a good 1318 01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:51.600 enough gift, just like I think like Pokemon, it's like a good enough 1319 01:33:51.640 --> 01:33:56.119 poke ball or whatever, it increases your odds of capturing them. They join 1320 01:33:56.239 --> 01:34:00.279 your Sujimon party and you straight up have these sujiman like jim battles where it's 1321 01:34:00.319 --> 01:34:04.079 like three on three and it has the full rock paper scissors with the two 1322 01:34:04.119 --> 01:34:08.079 on the side, Like what's the spirit in the light or whatever it is. 1323 01:34:08.399 --> 01:34:11.800 It's literally called sujimon you've got that like Professor Oak style thing. It's 1324 01:34:11.800 --> 01:34:15.079 called like you get like a Sugi dex. It is like I barely know 1325 01:34:15.159 --> 01:34:16.560 Pokemon, but I know enough to know that, like, oh, this 1326 01:34:16.680 --> 01:34:21.079 is very clearly like this goes beyond reference for sure. This is a straight 1327 01:34:21.159 --> 01:34:27.079 up like but it like that. I think it's it's more clear homage slash 1328 01:34:27.199 --> 01:34:30.520 satire, Like it seems like that's definitely what like a Dragon's do. Yeah, 1329 01:34:30.560 --> 01:34:35.640 So at what point does it cross? Does the scale tip from homage 1330 01:34:35.680 --> 01:34:43.880 satire to rip off? You know, like legally it's legally hard. Yeah, 1331 01:34:43.960 --> 01:34:48.920 legally it's so fucking hard to disprove parody, if that's the right way 1332 01:34:48.920 --> 01:34:54.439 to put it. Want them to. I don't want Pokemon to own the 1333 01:34:54.479 --> 01:34:58.039 fact that you can throw balls and capture animals. I don't want them to. 1334 01:34:58.279 --> 01:35:02.720 I think that stifles innovation and creativity, which sign is all for. 1335 01:35:02.760 --> 01:35:08.800 As much as the game do iteration, Pokemon never had base building, never 1336 01:35:08.840 --> 01:35:15.319 had guns, never had any of this cool shit like diff pushed some Pokemon 1337 01:35:15.680 --> 01:35:19.880 Power will push this forward. They pushed it forward, and I'm I'm excited 1338 01:35:19.880 --> 01:35:24.479 about it, and I think that, uh, to a degree, like 1339 01:35:24.720 --> 01:35:29.119 the sales are showing like this is something the audiences were hungry for, we 1340 01:35:29.279 --> 01:35:33.399 wanted this. I do want to make a clear statement though, that like 1341 01:35:33.640 --> 01:35:43.159 sales doesn't absolve them of their sins. If they indeed did severely steal things, 1342 01:35:43.239 --> 01:35:46.239 then this is not cool. But again that needs to be proven in 1343 01:35:46.920 --> 01:35:51.039 like legit court systems, I'm not going to go there. But as far 1344 01:35:51.079 --> 01:35:58.359 as I've seen and what I have played, this is just an extraordinarily inspired 1345 01:35:58.520 --> 01:36:05.640 and at some points morally dubious version of a game that is extraordinarily fun. 1346 01:36:06.680 --> 01:36:14.039 It's really enjoyable to play, that makes advances in this genre that our audiences 1347 01:36:14.079 --> 01:36:16.079 have been asking for for some time. And to that degree, I say, 1348 01:36:16.640 --> 01:36:20.039 may the best man win. You know, like they probably will go 1349 01:36:20.079 --> 01:36:24.680 to court over it. I assume, I don't know, and we'll see 1350 01:36:24.720 --> 01:36:27.880 where it falls. But I would hate to think that if they did do 1351 01:36:27.920 --> 01:36:30.520 this legitimately, I think they should just be left alone. I think we 1352 01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:35.399 should let games like this exist. I hate when like a company like this 1353 01:36:35.479 --> 01:36:41.319 can overlord over the concept of what can be and what cannot be a Pokemon 1354 01:36:41.399 --> 01:36:45.119 game. Who is the developer of powerld Oh, I don't know. Are 1355 01:36:45.119 --> 01:36:50.600 they like a known quantity or are they just amply by night operation. This 1356 01:36:50.640 --> 01:36:56.199 is where Mike shouldn't have left, because I never pay attention to stuff like 1357 01:36:56.239 --> 01:37:00.199 this. See it looks like it is pocket Pair incorporated. You know everybody 1358 01:37:00.239 --> 01:37:06.159 knows pocket Pair Google kraft Topia, what is that? I bet I don't 1359 01:37:06.199 --> 01:37:12.720 know what their whole deal is raft Topia to do that. Their visual style 1360 01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:23.039 is so cute and quirky and very saturated. Kraft Topia is clearly like also 1361 01:37:23.079 --> 01:37:25.960 an element of it. If you've looked at, like even the visuals of 1362 01:37:26.079 --> 01:37:31.000 kraft Topia, you can see the base building and the adventuring. But there's 1363 01:37:31.079 --> 01:37:35.760 just something about Power World. It's like that scratching that itch. I'll say, 1364 01:37:35.760 --> 01:37:40.680 if you feel bad about the Power World stuff, your Sujiman and infinet 1365 01:37:40.680 --> 01:37:44.079 wealth, you can put them to work on the Don Doco island. They 1366 01:37:44.159 --> 01:37:47.000 can fucking tend your vegetables, they can build shit, you can all that 1367 01:37:47.039 --> 01:37:49.880 stuff. You can do that too. Well. It's also ripping off animal 1368 01:37:49.880 --> 01:37:54.560 crossing. At the same time. I think it's borrowing from a lot of 1369 01:37:54.680 --> 01:37:59.520 pieces that it's also doing a lot right. I think you're right, like 1370 01:37:59.560 --> 01:38:02.000 this is the place to decide whether or not something is morally just or not. 1371 01:38:02.199 --> 01:38:08.960 I can tell you I had a visceral reaction to hearing the fast travel 1372 01:38:09.039 --> 01:38:14.800 sound. I had a like, ooh, ooh, you guys. I 1373 01:38:14.840 --> 01:38:16.640 know where you guys got this from. I know what you wanted to do. 1374 01:38:18.239 --> 01:38:24.920 Yeah, and that doesn't sit super well with me. I think that 1375 01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:29.720 we should be respecting. I don't think that capitalism rules all. I don't 1376 01:38:29.720 --> 01:38:34.319 think the fact that this is the most top played game on Steam right now 1377 01:38:35.239 --> 01:38:43.439 justifies if they have legitimately harmed hardworking, original artists and ideas, I don't 1378 01:38:43.439 --> 01:38:45.560 think that's a good thing. So I think there is a moral conversation to 1379 01:38:45.600 --> 01:38:51.840 be had here, But until that has been fully played out, my reaction 1380 01:38:53.039 --> 01:38:57.239 is is this is a genuinely fun game. It is worth looking into and 1381 01:38:57.319 --> 01:39:00.640 trying and seeing for yourself and determining, like where you think it falls. 1382 01:39:01.079 --> 01:39:08.159 And nothing has been definitely proven, nothing, not like the AI nor the 1383 01:39:08.279 --> 01:39:13.680 duplicates of And this might change when this thing comes out because everybody's everybody's everybody's 1384 01:39:13.680 --> 01:39:16.119 investigating and there's a lot of internet investigations make you've probably seen there's a lot 1385 01:39:16.159 --> 01:39:19.039 of people like on there's a lot of like keyboard warriors on Twitter that are 1386 01:39:19.079 --> 01:39:21.760 like, I can prove that these are the exact same copy, and it's 1387 01:39:21.760 --> 01:39:27.199 like you, you literally can't. That needs to be proven by people who 1388 01:39:27.239 --> 01:39:30.359 actually know what they're doing and talking about, so nothing, nothing has been 1389 01:39:30.399 --> 01:39:34.840 proven if they have done that. That is the risk with pre recording of 1390 01:39:34.880 --> 01:39:39.800 podcasts, Like it's rare to say something and then like several days sometimes after 1391 01:39:39.840 --> 01:39:42.239 like a week passes and then it's like, oh God, any number of 1392 01:39:42.319 --> 01:39:46.199 things gonna happen. Don't cancel me. I'm just saying that, uh at 1393 01:39:46.199 --> 01:39:48.880 this time. And I did look it up, especially after I heard that 1394 01:39:48.960 --> 01:39:54.560 audio. I was like, these bastards steal all this shit and I couldn't 1395 01:39:54.560 --> 01:39:59.680 find any definitive proof. But there's a lot of people who feel that they 1396 01:39:59.680 --> 01:40:02.760 have taken too many liberties. That is that is like a fair way to 1397 01:40:02.800 --> 01:40:10.399 say it, like brashly have iterated in a way that's not like it's in 1398 01:40:10.439 --> 01:40:13.600 a distasteful way. I think is what people are saying. Yes, people 1399 01:40:13.600 --> 01:40:18.720 are saying that it's not cool and the question is is will a judge say 1400 01:40:19.119 --> 01:40:24.640 you are guilty of being not cool? To the tune of forty two million 1401 01:40:24.800 --> 01:40:30.239 dollars. It's like the question that we're all thinking of right now, which 1402 01:40:30.279 --> 01:40:32.319 is not cool worth. I did see if you want to hear someone who 1403 01:40:32.359 --> 01:40:36.199 like knows legal stuff talk about it, I saw that min Max put out 1404 01:40:36.199 --> 01:40:39.920 a thing. They've got Haley over there min Max, who is like a 1405 01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:43.399 lawyer and knows lost stuff. I have not seen the video, but I 1406 01:40:43.399 --> 01:40:45.680 saw they put up a video where it's like, is this illegal? Is 1407 01:40:45.720 --> 01:40:48.640 this copy? Where is this stand? Copy? Right now? So I 1408 01:40:48.920 --> 01:40:51.880 checked that out out that, yeah, I'd love to hear like from people 1409 01:40:51.880 --> 01:40:55.159 who know what they're talking about. I always feel like I'm getting too much 1410 01:40:55.159 --> 01:40:58.800 of my information from Twitter, which is such a garbage source for fucking that. 1411 01:40:59.119 --> 01:41:01.159 Bring that down to zero in your life will be better. Everybody on 1412 01:41:01.199 --> 01:41:04.640 Twitter, and that's what I'm talking about. I got on Twitter briefly to 1413 01:41:04.680 --> 01:41:09.199 say like, hey, I'm leaving Polygon, and so many people are incredibly 1414 01:41:09.279 --> 01:41:12.239 nice about it. And then I was just like, because Twitter was up, 1415 01:41:12.279 --> 01:41:15.239 I saw what other people were saying this week, Oh, I don't 1416 01:41:15.279 --> 01:41:19.239 miss it. Between games and wrestling. It's been a week. It's so 1417 01:41:19.359 --> 01:41:24.680 exhausting, you know what, I uh, I don't have a clean transition 1418 01:41:24.760 --> 01:41:30.239 for that. But I also played the Last of Us Part two remastered Roguelike 1419 01:41:30.319 --> 01:41:35.720 mode, which is Valhalla. No, that's God of War right good good 1420 01:41:35.720 --> 01:41:42.039 bit no return it wasn't. The Last of Us Part two is Roguelike Mode 1421 01:41:42.279 --> 01:41:45.920 is fucking kick ass. I like the idea that Dan doesn't understand when you're 1422 01:41:45.920 --> 01:41:50.960 being ironic, Like he doesn't understand when you're being like cheeky or facetious. 1423 01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:57.000 He takes everything you say sincerely no no good idea, Dan, and he's 1424 01:41:57.039 --> 01:42:03.079 like, thanks, yeah, I don't I don't trade you can't process it. 1425 01:42:03.479 --> 01:42:06.319 I don't like sarcasm. I don't trade in jokes and never been one 1426 01:42:06.319 --> 01:42:12.479 for senses of humor, Like anything laughable is always like, you know, 1427 01:42:12.920 --> 01:42:15.560 anathema for me, like get out of here. Mary's saying he doesn't get 1428 01:42:15.560 --> 01:42:19.479 sarcasm reminded me of when I was single and he'd be on dating sites the 1429 01:42:19.920 --> 01:42:23.920 like number one not number one. There's lots of bad things somebody can having 1430 01:42:23.920 --> 01:42:27.640 a profile, but whenever somebody be like I speak in sarcasm, I'm fluent 1431 01:42:27.760 --> 01:42:30.960 in sarcasm. It's like, fuck, what do you mean that sucks? 1432 01:42:31.680 --> 01:42:38.680 Is pizza? I love Harris you doing a yoga pose in front of ruins. 1433 01:42:39.199 --> 01:42:43.039 I told you my own thing Selvo for dating apps when I was like 1434 01:42:43.079 --> 01:42:47.399 twenty five with that. When when I matched with someone, my first message 1435 01:42:47.399 --> 01:42:53.920 would be, hey, I bought us a dog and it worked and I 1436 01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:59.960 loved it. Yeah, but god, no Return. You think i'd be 1437 01:43:00.039 --> 01:43:06.159 getting sick of non roguelike games like action adventure games adding a roguelike DLC to 1438 01:43:06.239 --> 01:43:10.239 the mix. But I didn't play Valhalla. I don't want to go back 1439 01:43:10.239 --> 01:43:14.520 to Gotta War Ragnarrock. But Last of Us Part two Remastered includes No Return, 1440 01:43:14.600 --> 01:43:18.359 which is a roguelike mode and it's awesome. Is it on the old 1441 01:43:18.600 --> 01:43:23.199 version of the game. Did they update that or is it just on the 1442 01:43:23.199 --> 01:43:27.840 five? I don't believe. So if you have the original PS five game, 1443 01:43:27.920 --> 01:43:30.920 you will need to a PS four game. Rather, you will need 1444 01:43:30.960 --> 01:43:34.239 to pay ten dollars to upgrade, and then it will include no Return. 1445 01:43:35.920 --> 01:43:42.199 I love Last of Us combat. I know I know a lot of people 1446 01:43:42.239 --> 01:43:44.920 find it stiff. I think you know I'll be the first to say I 1447 01:43:44.920 --> 01:43:49.279 think that's the point like it's very like survival horror esque, but you get 1448 01:43:49.319 --> 01:43:55.119 to they went all out arcade with it. It's not they're not trying to 1449 01:43:55.439 --> 01:43:59.880 apparently, Valhalla the Gotta Ragnarock one is very much like an epilogue to this 1450 01:44:00.079 --> 01:44:03.479 story of Ragnarok, Like it's a therapy session for Crados. I've heard time 1451 01:44:03.560 --> 01:44:09.800 and time again it's a it's basically him speaking out loud as he explores his 1452 01:44:09.840 --> 01:44:12.880 past, and like, I don't want that. I just want an arcade 1453 01:44:13.039 --> 01:44:15.760 version of the combat that I like. And the last Us part two wastes 1454 01:44:15.840 --> 01:44:20.520 no time. It's like pick Abby or Ellie and then each of them as 1455 01:44:20.560 --> 01:44:27.359 you complete challenges, unlocks like another six characters in their camp, you know, 1456 01:44:28.000 --> 01:44:30.479 like to me and you would know if this is an app comparison. 1457 01:44:30.640 --> 01:44:34.720 Is this like Ari four versus the Mercenaries mode? No, because that's like 1458 01:44:35.159 --> 01:44:39.960 Horde mode, But I mean not in terms of format of the actual mode, 1459 01:44:40.199 --> 01:44:43.000 more in like tone and format of the game where it's like, No, 1460 01:44:43.159 --> 01:44:46.159 Ari four is not as trade of like scoring arcade pickup power up type 1461 01:44:46.159 --> 01:44:49.960 game, but Mercenaries is you know, oh yeah, it's residual village Mercenaries 1462 01:44:50.000 --> 01:44:53.279 mode it's like, oh, I could pick a character and just fight shit 1463 01:44:53.439 --> 01:44:56.319 that was in the game that has nothing to do with the story. Absolutely 1464 01:44:56.439 --> 01:45:00.079 yeah, it's I picked, you know, like Ellie, and it's structured 1465 01:45:00.520 --> 01:45:04.960 on a like mind place Ellen Wake two esque pinboard, where you're like, 1466 01:45:05.520 --> 01:45:11.039 all right, I pick Ellie. Each character has three specific traits, like 1467 01:45:12.039 --> 01:45:15.880 I'm butchering some of these, but it's like Jesse he crafts fifty percent faster, 1468 01:45:16.439 --> 01:45:23.039 or Dina she can make explosives with fewer supplies or whatever. So you're 1469 01:45:23.079 --> 01:45:26.960 thrust into these environments that were taken from the campaign. But it's been so 1470 01:45:27.000 --> 01:45:30.439 long since I played that game that I didn't feel the repetition all that strongly. 1471 01:45:31.119 --> 01:45:36.079 And you're fighting through these individual events and you're unlocking as you get through 1472 01:45:38.239 --> 01:45:44.560 this mode, you're unlocking new as you're going through No Return, you're unlocking 1473 01:45:44.600 --> 01:45:47.680 new modes. At first, it's just assault quote unquote, and you've got 1474 01:45:47.880 --> 01:45:54.199 three infected to take out. It'll tell you the faction when you're selecting it. 1475 01:45:54.279 --> 01:45:58.039 Sometimes you get to choose between two scenarios. Other times you have to 1476 01:45:58.079 --> 01:46:00.079 go through one. But it's like, all right, you can choose between 1477 01:46:00.079 --> 01:46:04.640 fighting the Washington Liberation Front or the Infected. This is Assault, and this 1478 01:46:04.680 --> 01:46:09.359 is holdout. Holdout. It's like Horde mode. Assault is just like you 1479 01:46:09.399 --> 01:46:12.439 could sneak around if you want. If you're playing a character who has stealth 1480 01:46:12.479 --> 01:46:15.520 stats, go for it. But you get to the end of this one 1481 01:46:15.640 --> 01:46:18.960 run and you might die, or you fight a boss. And once you 1482 01:46:19.000 --> 01:46:27.199 beat the boss, which could be a bloater or a really upgraded stalker or 1483 01:46:27.239 --> 01:46:30.119 whatever they're called, the ones that hide around corners, you then go to 1484 01:46:30.239 --> 01:46:34.760 the next set of levels. And then the whole time you're completing challenges, 1485 01:46:35.159 --> 01:46:41.000 you're unlocking mods, you're unlocking gambits, which are basically like, oh, 1486 01:46:41.479 --> 01:46:46.199 you get a pretty overpowered ability. However, you're also dealing with the enemy 1487 01:46:46.319 --> 01:46:53.279 also gets this one specific overpowered ability, and you know the meta that arises 1488 01:46:53.319 --> 01:46:58.039 out of it is that, Okay, I'm I just completed a holdout and 1489 01:46:58.079 --> 01:47:00.800 I use like all my ammunition. So now I have to choose between Assault, 1490 01:47:01.119 --> 01:47:04.600 which is very much I control the tempo because I could be in stealth 1491 01:47:05.079 --> 01:47:10.319 collecting all these supplies around the map, or I could go into hunted, 1492 01:47:10.399 --> 01:47:13.159 which is when everybody knows where you are. You're just trying to survive for 1493 01:47:13.239 --> 01:47:21.560 one minute thirty seconds. It's such a good like expression of the combat in 1494 01:47:23.439 --> 01:47:27.560 Last of Us one and two, which I think is just like brilliant combat 1495 01:47:27.600 --> 01:47:31.079 system. I know it's not the best most fluid feeling combat. I think 1496 01:47:31.159 --> 01:47:35.039 that's the point in those games. It's supposed to be a bit stiff and 1497 01:47:36.920 --> 01:47:41.439 not wonky, because it feels it still works as it should. I just 1498 01:47:41.600 --> 01:47:45.479 think it's it's supposed to be these people surviving in this post apocalypse. And 1499 01:47:45.560 --> 01:47:49.479 I don't like the Last of Us Part two all that much. So the 1500 01:47:49.520 --> 01:47:53.720 fact that I can play the combat, which they added the dodge that was 1501 01:47:53.720 --> 01:47:58.800 not in the first game. I could play as all these characters without dealing 1502 01:47:58.840 --> 01:48:04.520 with the baggage that that long story has is so fun and I'm hooked and 1503 01:48:04.640 --> 01:48:09.239 uh it actually because I did want to go back into that world. I 1504 01:48:09.279 --> 01:48:12.640 replayed the Last of Us Part one remastered because I never played it. I 1505 01:48:12.720 --> 01:48:15.960 never finished it when I came out in PS five like a year ago, 1506 01:48:16.039 --> 01:48:19.199 and then because I was in the Last of Us Part one, I am 1507 01:48:19.239 --> 01:48:23.800 now at the end of Uncharted four. I've been on this weird naughty dog 1508 01:48:23.920 --> 01:48:27.520 kick because of no Return. It's I'm a psycho. How did you get 1509 01:48:27.520 --> 01:48:30.760 here? Because I love Lasts of Us so much? And there you are 1510 01:48:30.800 --> 01:48:38.039 playing uncharted four, played Jack and daxters I might go back to Jack and 1511 01:48:38.079 --> 01:48:43.279 Daxter. I started on Jacket Daxter, I was, I was, I 1512 01:48:43.359 --> 01:48:45.479 was in this world and the Last of Us. I'm like, man, 1513 01:48:45.760 --> 01:48:49.239 this combat was always great. Like then I went back to part one. 1514 01:48:49.359 --> 01:48:51.439 Well, I should just say part one because that's what they called it when 1515 01:48:51.439 --> 01:48:56.239 they remastered it. Still love that game, Last of Us Part one. 1516 01:48:57.800 --> 01:49:00.680 Have you guys ever heard this? It's a good game. It's really good. 1517 01:49:00.960 --> 01:49:03.119 Yeah, no, I know, I know. This is like I 1518 01:49:03.159 --> 01:49:05.279 know, I'm the first person to say this. You are, Yeah, 1519 01:49:05.359 --> 01:49:08.960 you can take credit for that, but let me say like it was episode 1520 01:49:09.039 --> 01:49:12.760 seventy three of the Firescape Cast when I the first person ever said that Last 1521 01:49:12.760 --> 01:49:15.319 Most Part one was a good game. I played it, no problem, 1522 01:49:15.399 --> 01:49:19.439 best pacing of maybe any game ever. I loved it. And then I 1523 01:49:19.479 --> 01:49:23.319 went back to on chart four because I fucking love on chard four. At 1524 01:49:23.319 --> 01:49:26.920 the end, I was on this weird naughty dog kick but no return. 1525 01:49:27.279 --> 01:49:33.319 If you own Last of Us Part two on PS four and you have ten 1526 01:49:33.359 --> 01:49:39.479 dollars lying around and you want a good roguelike independent of the game that it 1527 01:49:39.640 --> 01:49:44.920 sprang from, pay that ten dollars for a very good roguelike. Play no 1528 01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:48.159 return on PS five. I love it. It's awesome. It just feels 1529 01:49:48.159 --> 01:49:54.800 great, well designed. Further proof that every game could be a real roguelike 1530 01:49:54.960 --> 01:49:58.000 if the developers want to make it one. I mean, you saying it's 1531 01:49:58.079 --> 01:50:01.239 Arcadie and it's not, Like Valhalla makes me a little more interested, Like 1532 01:50:01.239 --> 01:50:04.800 I hadn't considered this because like I tried like thirty minutes of Valhalla, and 1533 01:50:04.840 --> 01:50:08.319 it's like the fact that it is trying to do this big story of stuff. 1534 01:50:08.319 --> 01:50:12.039 Like the thing I loved about got a word the first time around was 1535 01:50:12.119 --> 01:50:14.279 you know when I say the first time around, I mean the original trilogy 1536 01:50:14.359 --> 01:50:17.399 and so worth like was the action and then it by Ragnarok. It was 1537 01:50:17.479 --> 01:50:20.359 so deep into the story stuff that I didn't want any more of that. 1538 01:50:20.439 --> 01:50:24.359 So I started Valhalla. It went really hard on that stuff, and I 1539 01:50:24.399 --> 01:50:28.600 just fell off immediately. So like with Last of Us, I loved the 1540 01:50:28.680 --> 01:50:32.319 Last of Us one fucking incredible masterpiece. Two I liked a lot. I 1541 01:50:32.359 --> 01:50:35.960 really thought was great over long and sometimes and stuff like that. But like 1542 01:50:36.199 --> 01:50:40.159 when I think back at it now, Like I don't dislike Last of Us, 1543 01:50:40.199 --> 01:50:42.720 but I do feel like that first one in particular, was kind of 1544 01:50:42.720 --> 01:50:45.680 that move. And like you hear a lot with like PlayStation First Party being 1545 01:50:45.720 --> 01:50:48.000 like, Okay, they're just trying to be like this is their HBO prestige 1546 01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:51.439 television type thing, which is not my favorite type of game. Like I 1547 01:50:51.520 --> 01:50:55.079 like games that feel like video games, and I feel like Last of Us 1548 01:50:55.159 --> 01:50:58.279 was like one of those big like Okay, we're this is a you know, 1549 01:50:58.720 --> 01:51:00.800 prestige video game type yeah, and that's not really my thing. You 1550 01:51:00.800 --> 01:51:08.720 know, No no return is honestly very surprisingly, like this is a fucking 1551 01:51:08.840 --> 01:51:14.560 video game. Ass video game mode like pick pick Elly or pick Abby Abby, 1552 01:51:14.720 --> 01:51:17.359 her melee attacks, restore her health every time. Sorry, how do 1553 01:51:17.479 --> 01:51:23.680 you get it's on? It's if you were to just buy because I already 1554 01:51:23.720 --> 01:51:27.359 have the original two games, but I don't have the remix. If you 1555 01:51:27.439 --> 01:51:31.199 have the original on PS four Part two, you would need to pay ten 1556 01:51:31.239 --> 01:51:35.279 dollars to upgrade to the PS five version remastered, which would include no return. 1557 01:51:35.840 --> 01:51:39.720 Mary, play it safe, go to Target and just pay this seventy 1558 01:51:39.760 --> 01:51:42.319 dollars for it, just to you know, you just want to make sure 1559 01:51:42.359 --> 01:51:46.920 you're got your brass covered. I do like spending money. You get that, 1560 01:51:47.079 --> 01:51:51.720 mon man, Uh, I am preserving physical versions of games, you 1561 01:51:51.800 --> 01:51:57.359 bastards. I appreciate that. Now you're not. Don't say that you're buying 1562 01:51:57.439 --> 01:52:00.880 games on like Xbox Digital market on the Xbox marketplace that you didn't know you 1563 01:52:00.920 --> 01:52:08.159 already owned. Don't preservation. We have you saying that many many times on 1564 01:52:08.199 --> 01:52:15.840 this Podcastle Company Bitch, I have Lethal Company physical version. I'm co I 1565 01:52:15.039 --> 01:52:18.760 made it. It's just a fucking pancake that I put a sticker of Lethal 1566 01:52:18.800 --> 01:52:28.039 Company on and I put it in my disk drive. No, it's if 1567 01:52:28.039 --> 01:52:30.840 you had syrup on it. Definitely. It is jarring. How it's Naughty 1568 01:52:30.880 --> 01:52:36.439 Dog doing this mode because you load in and it's just, hey, here's 1569 01:52:36.520 --> 01:52:42.479 a weird little corkboard with a with a yarn connecting different scenarios. And then 1570 01:52:42.560 --> 01:52:46.920 Abby she's fucking jacked. So if she kills an enemy with a melee attack 1571 01:52:47.000 --> 01:52:50.399 her one of her stats gives her health back for that. So as Abby, 1572 01:52:50.399 --> 01:52:55.000 you're just running around beating the shit out of people and then infected. 1573 01:52:55.199 --> 01:52:59.680 And then as Ellie you're a bit more crafty and whatnot. But it's man, 1574 01:52:59.720 --> 01:53:02.000 they I don't give a fuck with no return that it has no connection, 1575 01:53:02.560 --> 01:53:09.399 no meaning, And it's awesome because having gone back to Last US Part 1576 01:53:09.439 --> 01:53:13.960 one, it does not have the dodge that they added in part two, 1577 01:53:15.159 --> 01:53:20.079 and it is noticeable. But Part two that that combat system, those mechanics 1578 01:53:20.119 --> 01:53:25.359 like work so well in a roguelike. I just got it. It hooked 1579 01:53:25.359 --> 01:53:30.319 me so quickly. I got like halfway through a successful or I got halfway 1580 01:53:30.319 --> 01:53:32.239 into a run then died, and I was like, well, this is 1581 01:53:32.279 --> 01:53:36.880 my next week and a half. It's great. I highly highly recommend it 1582 01:53:36.880 --> 01:53:39.840 if you have that ten dollars lying around, if you already own a on 1583 01:53:39.920 --> 01:53:44.199 PS four, or if you've never played that game. I'm not gonna say, 1584 01:53:44.239 --> 01:53:45.439 if you've never played that game you don't own it, that this mode 1585 01:53:45.479 --> 01:53:49.279 alone is worth the seventy dollars on PS five. But like, I think 1586 01:53:49.359 --> 01:53:53.920 that game is still good enough to buy on PS five, I think it's 1587 01:53:53.920 --> 01:53:57.000 too long. The part one is a hard comparison because that's one of the 1588 01:53:57.000 --> 01:54:02.199 best things ever in games. But like, yeah, no return, if 1589 01:54:02.239 --> 01:54:05.560 you have a reasonable way to play it right now, go do it. 1590 01:54:05.560 --> 01:54:13.439 It's it's awesome. Okay, nice, Yeah, Mary, I'm finally catching 1591 01:54:13.520 --> 01:54:17.079 up to you, Prince of Persia. Yeah. It's really good, right, 1592 01:54:17.199 --> 01:54:21.399 it's really really it's fucking great, right, it's super good. The 1593 01:54:21.439 --> 01:54:25.880 traversal's really fun. I love the map upgrades that I can actually take a 1594 01:54:25.880 --> 01:54:28.560 photo and I'm not allowed to go somewhere, so I can be like, 1595 01:54:28.600 --> 01:54:30.600 oh, that's right, I couldn't go up there because I need like a 1596 01:54:30.640 --> 01:54:32.680 double jump or something with a deep ad button. You don't even have to 1597 01:54:32.680 --> 01:54:39.680 pause, Dan, you do just tap it. Oh sorry, sorry, 1598 01:54:40.760 --> 01:54:44.239 last episode you were saying you need to tap it. I said hold holding 1599 01:54:45.119 --> 01:54:49.000 takes the screenshot and also brings up the map in what tap just okay, 1600 01:54:49.119 --> 01:54:53.119 yeah, yeah, it's really fun. Now there is a limit of how 1601 01:54:53.159 --> 01:54:56.760 many screenshots you can take, which did come up to come to play for 1602 01:54:56.880 --> 01:54:59.199 me. But then I was like, I can delete these other four. 1603 01:54:59.199 --> 01:55:00.399 I don't need them anymore. So it's been you can upgrade that too. 1604 01:55:00.439 --> 01:55:02.880 You can upgrade that. Oh I didn't know. I didn't do that yet. 1605 01:55:03.359 --> 01:55:05.600 I haven't beaten it, but I want to say I'm like, I'm 1606 01:55:05.640 --> 01:55:10.359 pretty close. I think I'm probably like eighty percent or something. I feel 1607 01:55:10.359 --> 01:55:12.560 like we're you know, we're several weeks away from release. Now, what 1608 01:55:12.720 --> 01:55:18.640 is the last upgrade you got? Tell me your abilities? Okay, uh, 1609 01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:26.039 I oh, I'm in the Uh there's like a swamp area with a 1610 01:55:26.119 --> 01:55:30.840 lady and I just killed her, and I so I have a ability to 1611 01:55:30.920 --> 01:55:34.159 like see other worlds. I have the ability to like take a mask of 1612 01:55:34.199 --> 01:55:40.319 myself and then jump to it. And I think I have a new jump, 1613 01:55:40.520 --> 01:55:43.279 like a double jump or triple jump. I have like a new jump 1614 01:55:43.319 --> 01:55:47.399 mechanic or something like that. Okay, I would say you are sixty five 1615 01:55:47.520 --> 01:55:51.960 to seventy percent done, maybe seventy night. I feel like because I'm also 1616 01:55:53.039 --> 01:55:56.239 like doing the thing where I'm trying to get as much of the map covered 1617 01:55:56.279 --> 01:56:00.000 where I can, so I'm already in the vicinity of like persenting it so 1618 01:56:00.039 --> 01:56:04.199 that when I get through the rest of it, it will be done. 1619 01:56:04.359 --> 01:56:09.239 Ish. Uh. It's extremely fun. The boss fights are difficult, but 1620 01:56:09.359 --> 01:56:13.800 totally doable. You just need to work your way through them. This game 1621 01:56:14.680 --> 01:56:26.239 is a fantastic addition to any metroid Vania lovers. Rolodex by the genre. 1622 01:56:26.399 --> 01:56:30.399 Like I keep saying, fantastic, It's fantastic, and I this is coming 1623 01:56:30.399 --> 01:56:32.960 from someone who's like, I'm like obsessed with or this is a very good 1624 01:56:33.039 --> 01:56:38.439 like ory game. It's just the traversal's great, it's good to look at. 1625 01:56:38.520 --> 01:56:42.039 It has really good combat, but it had some really nice quality of 1626 01:56:42.079 --> 01:56:45.319 life updates that I just think almost put it give it an edge and make 1627 01:56:45.359 --> 01:56:50.159 it better than a lot of modern Metroid and old Metroid vanias. It's fucking 1628 01:56:50.279 --> 01:56:55.720 good. So full recommendation. I won't like harp on it. I think 1629 01:56:55.720 --> 01:57:01.359 it's a fantastic game. It will come back. You cannot game of the 1630 01:57:01.399 --> 01:57:05.439 year. I'm not done discussing this game. Yes, I don't think we 1631 01:57:05.479 --> 01:57:10.640 will. I have already been adding stuff documented for next year or this year. 1632 01:57:10.880 --> 01:57:14.319 Yeah, who knows when I'll bring it up again. Wing December? 1633 01:57:14.520 --> 01:57:16.359 Wing? Oh oh yeah, just like what okay, I'll be with you 1634 01:57:16.399 --> 01:57:23.600 there. Yeah. Anything else we didn't touch on? Tecing oh, tacking 1635 01:57:23.600 --> 01:57:27.800 eight? Right? Yes? Oh right? How okay. So I'm hearing 1636 01:57:29.600 --> 01:57:30.640 Dan, how are you liking it? Because I'm hearing this game is good. 1637 01:57:30.760 --> 01:57:35.720 I'm also hearing that this game, like Street Fighter six, also takes 1638 01:57:36.520 --> 01:57:42.720 measures to make the series pretty accessible. That's easy for me to say, 1639 01:57:42.760 --> 01:57:45.640 because, like I, it has a mode where you can like hit LB 1640 01:57:45.800 --> 01:57:48.760 basically and it totally it's like a new control scheme type thing. So it's 1641 01:57:48.760 --> 01:57:50.880 like, oh, I'm gonna jam on X and it's gonna do combos, 1642 01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:55.359 I'm gonna jam on why. It's gonna do like air juggles and brows like 1643 01:57:55.479 --> 01:57:58.880 system. No, the heat system. I'm finally the heat system. This 1644 01:57:58.920 --> 01:58:01.439 is more. This is a different This is like a special control style the 1645 01:58:01.439 --> 01:58:04.000 way that Street Fighter six kind of has a simplified thing, so you don't 1646 01:58:04.039 --> 01:58:08.119 have to memorize a million like you know how to do a haduken. You 1647 01:58:08.159 --> 01:58:11.319 can just do like why and forward or whatever. This is more along those 1648 01:58:11.359 --> 01:58:14.840 lines. And I tried it. I was curious and because I've played every 1649 01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:18.079 TECND since the first one, and I don't know, it could be a 1650 01:58:18.119 --> 01:58:21.680 thing where it's like I'm just old and played all the old ones, and 1651 01:58:21.720 --> 01:58:25.960 it was weird to me to like, nah, I want to have a 1652 01:58:25.960 --> 01:58:28.800 certain level of control over what my character's doing. I don't want to just 1653 01:58:28.880 --> 01:58:32.279 jam on X and hope cool stuff happens. You know, if you are 1654 01:58:32.319 --> 01:58:35.960 a first time player or somebody who if it's fun for you, it's yeah, 1655 01:58:36.119 --> 01:58:40.279 it's there. Hit LB. I'm sure I can't imagine it's the thing 1656 01:58:40.279 --> 01:58:43.640 where you're going to go beat some EVO player because he turned on the special 1657 01:58:43.680 --> 01:58:45.000 thing and jammed on X. You know they're going to know how to counter 1658 01:58:45.039 --> 01:58:47.479 that and stuff. So I don't see a problem with it by any means. 1659 01:58:47.479 --> 01:58:51.319 But I did just go back to the traditional controls because that's that's what 1660 01:58:51.319 --> 01:58:54.920 I'm used to with tecond. Also, I'm playing on an arcade stick, 1661 01:58:55.000 --> 01:58:58.760 and it is a fantastic arcade stick game. I tried to play more to 1662 01:58:58.800 --> 01:59:00.359 combat with the arcade stick, but you have to do the ex moves and 1663 01:59:00.399 --> 01:59:02.479 you know, hit RT at the same time. It's not great for that 1664 01:59:02.800 --> 01:59:06.960 tech. And it's awesome. The heat system I like a lot. It's 1665 01:59:08.000 --> 01:59:11.800 you kind of get once a fight, you can do this RB thing where 1666 01:59:11.840 --> 01:59:14.000 if you just want to jam on RB, you'll do this big combos. 1667 01:59:14.039 --> 01:59:15.760 Some people use the whole meter at once, some you can use multiple things 1668 01:59:15.800 --> 01:59:19.399 to do a bunch of small combos. Yeah, it's just kind of like 1669 01:59:20.119 --> 01:59:24.119 it's a super meter that you can activate once to fight. And then there's 1670 01:59:24.159 --> 01:59:27.560 the separate like rage arts or something it's called where it's like you were when 1671 01:59:27.600 --> 01:59:30.840 you're down to like nothing. You can kind of go down forward in RT 1672 01:59:30.439 --> 01:59:33.920 and do one of those big ultramove type things where it's a last gasp like 1673 01:59:34.119 --> 01:59:38.439 hopefully I can connect with this and fuck them up or whatever, and that's 1674 01:59:38.640 --> 01:59:42.720 I'm not big on. I feel like, for at least a decade now, 1675 01:59:42.800 --> 01:59:45.239 a lot of fighting games have had those like ultramove type things where it's 1676 01:59:45.279 --> 01:59:51.000 a long animation and they are really cool. They showcase they're really cool at 1677 01:59:51.000 --> 01:59:55.640 first. They showcase well in trailers and stuff like that, but like when 1678 01:59:55.680 --> 01:59:59.399 you're doing a million fights in a story mode and stuff like that, every 1679 02:00:00.239 --> 02:00:02.039 it so much it's kind of like, okay, you know right away if 1680 02:00:02.039 --> 02:00:03.960 it connected or if it didn't, and then it's like, okay, I 1681 02:00:03.960 --> 02:00:06.359 got to sit here for like eight seconds and watch this thing play out. 1682 02:00:06.399 --> 02:00:11.199 That does get a little bit old that like take a sip of coffee break. 1683 02:00:11.720 --> 02:00:14.439 Yes, not in a fun way, but like that, that is 1684 02:00:14.479 --> 02:00:16.359 what it became after a while. When I was playing Mortal Kombat enough, 1685 02:00:16.720 --> 02:00:18.560 yeah, yeah, it's like, okay, I've seen this. It's it's 1686 02:00:18.640 --> 02:00:24.199 good for the first time, but this whole game just has a confidence in 1687 02:00:24.239 --> 02:00:27.479 its presentation, Like you can tell they know, it's a fucking great game. 1688 02:00:28.039 --> 02:00:30.680 Just everything about it is so polished, everything from the visuals to the 1689 02:00:30.720 --> 02:00:34.800 menus to the music. The new characters are great. My favorite new one 1690 02:00:34.840 --> 02:00:39.920 is Azusaina. She grew up on a coffee plantation in Peru and she's like 1691 02:00:39.960 --> 02:00:44.399 a dancer, MMA fighter, coffee enthusiast, and she's She's a blast to 1692 02:00:44.399 --> 02:00:48.680 play as I think. The thing I really love about this is as someone 1693 02:00:48.720 --> 02:00:55.520 who has never gravitated towards fighting games to be competitive, I've always gravitated towards 1694 02:00:55.520 --> 02:00:59.600 them for the personality. It's why Street Fighter I think is probably the best 1695 02:00:59.600 --> 02:01:03.319 fighting but it's not in my top three because like it's you know, you're 1696 02:01:03.319 --> 02:01:06.760 about like comedians, comedians. I feel like street Fighters like the fighting game, 1697 02:01:06.800 --> 02:01:12.119 fans fighting game. Yeah, my big three is combat. Yes, 1698 02:01:12.680 --> 02:01:15.359 sorry, now I'm just thinking, who's like the comedians community. What's his 1699 02:01:15.439 --> 02:01:16.640 name? And Norm? People said that about Normal all the time. Yeah, 1700 02:01:16.680 --> 02:01:20.880 but he's also that's a tangent. I'm trying to think of the guy 1701 02:01:20.920 --> 02:01:28.479 who did the Aristocrats joke at BOPSI Iago, the voice of Iago, Oh 1702 02:01:28.520 --> 02:01:30.560 God for god Gil mc godfrey. I feel like it's a Comedians comedian. 1703 02:01:31.279 --> 02:01:34.880 Sorry, such a stupid tangent that I just brought us on. But yeah, 1704 02:01:34.880 --> 02:01:38.880 it's like Mortal Kombat, Soul Calver, and Techan were always my favorites 1705 02:01:38.920 --> 02:01:42.479 because they were all pretty accessible. If you don't like know everything about fighting 1706 02:01:42.520 --> 02:01:44.920 games, you don't know, you know, you're not you're not practicing frame 1707 02:01:45.039 --> 02:01:48.479 data and all that stuff. They had these flashy characters, like the tech 1708 02:01:48.520 --> 02:01:53.560 and stories insane with just constantly throwing your dad in the volcanoes and vice versa, 1709 02:01:54.800 --> 02:01:57.840 and yeah, this one delivers on all of that. I was I 1710 02:01:57.920 --> 02:02:00.920 was worried about the story mode. I remember not loving the story mode in 1711 02:02:00.960 --> 02:02:02.840 seven. I didn't play all the way through it. But this one is 1712 02:02:02.840 --> 02:02:06.039 more kind of like Mortal Kombat style with these like insane cut scenes. Like 1713 02:02:06.520 --> 02:02:11.079 the first thing that happens is you're playing his gin and you drive a motorcycle 1714 02:02:11.119 --> 02:02:15.239 up a skyscraper and he like throws the motorcycle at his father who's in a 1715 02:02:15.279 --> 02:02:17.399 helicopter, and it explodes and you fight your father. It's until he turns 1716 02:02:17.439 --> 02:02:20.279 into a devil or you turn into a devil. It's it's all that tech 1717 02:02:20.279 --> 02:02:25.520 and bullshit that I absolutely fucking love. But what I was getting to was 1718 02:02:25.560 --> 02:02:30.119 that the thing I love not being a competitive player is the wealth of single 1719 02:02:30.119 --> 02:02:33.279 player content. So there is the full on Mortal Kombat style arcade mode, 1720 02:02:33.319 --> 02:02:38.079 which is really good this time around. But there's also this Arcade Quest thing 1721 02:02:38.079 --> 02:02:42.439 where you basically make like an Xbox Live avatar and you're just like walking around 1722 02:02:42.479 --> 02:02:45.079 from arcade to arcade and like challenging people, and there's like a little stupid 1723 02:02:45.239 --> 02:02:48.159 mini story that goes with it, but it's basically just a really nice way 1724 02:02:48.520 --> 02:02:51.840 to teach you how to play the game and teach you the heat system, 1725 02:02:51.880 --> 02:02:57.439 teach you these rade yards to get some coins to buy customizable items and stuff 1726 02:02:57.439 --> 02:03:00.199 with. So I found that as much as I was liking the story mode, 1727 02:03:00.920 --> 02:03:04.439 I have been focusing on the Arcade Quest because I think I'm learning the 1728 02:03:04.439 --> 02:03:08.640 game better that way, and then I can go into the story mode and 1729 02:03:08.640 --> 02:03:10.600 I can be like, all right, I know how to play these characters, 1730 02:03:10.640 --> 02:03:12.960 I know what I'm doing. More now let me just sit back and 1731 02:03:13.039 --> 02:03:16.760 enjoy the story. So yeah, it's exactly what I want out of a 1732 02:03:16.760 --> 02:03:23.119 techn game. It's got stupid ass endings, it's got all the personality, 1733 02:03:23.560 --> 02:03:27.119 the stages where you're just fighting in the middle of like a multi tornado storm 1734 02:03:27.199 --> 02:03:31.680 on the ocean, with like boats crashing into the shore, and it's destructible 1735 02:03:31.760 --> 02:03:35.319 environments and walls you can smash through and go to different parts of the stage. 1736 02:03:35.439 --> 02:03:40.800 It is. It is an absolute top tier fighting game. I'm loving 1737 02:03:40.800 --> 02:03:43.479 it, loving it, loving it. Will probably pick this up and play 1738 02:03:43.520 --> 02:03:49.840 it for years. Where's tech In as a franchise rank in your favorite fighting 1739 02:03:49.880 --> 02:03:54.560 franchises? I think my favorite fighting game of all time is probably the first 1740 02:03:54.600 --> 02:03:57.720 Soul Caliber for Dreamcast, and frankly it kind of fell off for me a 1741 02:03:57.720 --> 02:04:00.479 lot after that. I played them all a lot, but like one I 1742 02:04:00.479 --> 02:04:04.199 think is a perfect video game, the Dreamcast. One my favorite franchise ever 1743 02:04:04.439 --> 02:04:09.520 is definitely Mortal Kombat, and that's the person that's That's one of those few 1744 02:04:09.600 --> 02:04:13.399 video games series where like, I love the characters. I love that very 1745 02:04:13.680 --> 02:04:15.560 big trouble little China style, Like, oh, these very just kind of 1746 02:04:15.600 --> 02:04:19.399 loud, silly characters, but we're playing it pretty straight faced and everything, 1747 02:04:19.439 --> 02:04:23.520 Like the tone of Mortal Kombat is exactly what I want. And I also 1748 02:04:23.600 --> 02:04:27.359 think it's it's always been a fun fighting game. It's never been on the 1749 02:04:27.439 --> 02:04:30.000 level of a street Fighter or a techan mechanically, but it's been good, 1750 02:04:30.279 --> 02:04:33.319 you know, but it's more about finding the fatalities and the secrets and all 1751 02:04:33.359 --> 02:04:39.199 that stuff. And so Mortal Kombat's my number one. I guess overall, 1752 02:04:39.239 --> 02:04:41.840 Tech and is a series is my number two. But if I had to 1753 02:04:41.840 --> 02:04:45.399 pick one game, it's that first soul Cast. Yeah, I was scurious 1754 02:04:45.439 --> 02:04:48.000 what you the rank of your series would be. I guess I would say 1755 02:04:48.000 --> 02:04:54.079 Mortal Kombat, Tech and Soul Caliber and Street Fighters close there. But yeah, 1756 02:04:54.199 --> 02:05:00.239 I don't care about Street Fight. I appreciate, I admire reckon is 1757 02:05:00.239 --> 02:05:03.479 the importance. You can email us at fire Escape Cast at gmail dot com 1758 02:05:03.520 --> 02:05:08.720 and c see Mike Maharty with all of your opinions about Street Fighter. You 1759 02:05:09.399 --> 02:05:15.800 fuse Mortal Kombat as a franchise, all things considered. As a franchise, 1760 02:05:15.840 --> 02:05:23.279 all things considered, hold this point nine point five. Now do Teken nine, 1761 02:05:24.560 --> 02:05:32.800 Soul Caliber eight point five street Fight? I mean it's hard to give 1762 02:05:32.840 --> 02:05:38.399 Street Fighter less than a nine. It's really fucking good. But are we 1763 02:05:38.479 --> 02:05:44.039 talking about my own personal taste? I guess you can't fuse for somebody else 1764 02:05:44.119 --> 02:05:47.119 or society. Dan so weird because like I think Street Fighter is probably the 1765 02:05:47.119 --> 02:05:51.560 best fighting game of all, but for my personal taste, I'll i'll if 1766 02:05:51.560 --> 02:05:55.920 we're talking everything with street Fighter in the name, i'll say we'll average out 1767 02:05:55.960 --> 02:06:00.000 around an eight. But that's a lot of stuff. Clay Fighter, Clay, 1768 02:06:00.479 --> 02:06:02.720 that's a ten. Yeah, six, Yeah, that's what I was 1769 02:06:02.720 --> 02:06:08.920 waiting for. Balls three D Hell Yeah, I don't think I'll play tech 1770 02:06:08.960 --> 02:06:13.520 In eight. I've again, I've I've only ever played teching in like Arcades 1771 02:06:13.840 --> 02:06:20.279 proper. As much as the storyline sounds fucking awesome and like the most metal 1772 02:06:20.279 --> 02:06:25.359 Garselid shit ever, I don't know that I'll play it, but I might. 1773 02:06:25.479 --> 02:06:30.119 I'm more focused on trying to like infinite Wealth, and if I don't, 1774 02:06:30.359 --> 02:06:32.840 I'll ditch it. But Mary, anything else that you're playing, you'll 1775 02:06:32.880 --> 02:06:39.920 talk about. That's it. Anything else, I'll say real quick. I've 1776 02:06:39.960 --> 02:06:46.159 been fooling around with some metal Quest three fitness stuff. They're running something where 1777 02:06:46.199 --> 02:06:47.960 they asked me, Okay, do you want to try a bunch of fitness 1778 02:06:47.960 --> 02:06:55.039 apps, and I said, yeah, i'll try them out meta No, 1779 02:06:56.239 --> 02:07:00.159 Yeah, Zuckerberg called me up. Yeah, that's what they said. Yeah, 1780 02:07:00.199 --> 02:07:08.479 So I basically got access to like a suite of fitness stuff. Yeah, 1781 02:07:08.600 --> 02:07:13.840 I got mixed thoughts on it. I think they're I'm not sold on 1782 02:07:13.960 --> 02:07:17.600 VR in general as a fitness thing. I think it can worry Huh. 1783 02:07:17.960 --> 02:07:20.319 I don't want to sweat in there. No, you don't want to sweat 1784 02:07:20.319 --> 02:07:24.720 in there. And also for most people, I would think space requirements are 1785 02:07:24.880 --> 02:07:28.000 like it's not like I've lived in small apartments for most of my life and 1786 02:07:28.039 --> 02:07:30.920 like it's just not realistic there. But I have space now and I played 1787 02:07:30.920 --> 02:07:34.399 a lot of this stuff, and you still even with through even with all 1788 02:07:34.439 --> 02:07:42.319 that, it's the concept of space space I'm always worried about, Like as 1789 02:07:42.359 --> 02:07:45.079 you were doing these swings, like you're doing these games and like the supernatural 1790 02:07:45.159 --> 02:07:48.319 VR thing, it's got these like boxing things and all that. It's very 1791 02:07:48.359 --> 02:07:51.119 beat saber, where like shit's flying at you and it's telling you like, 1792 02:07:51.159 --> 02:07:55.680 yeah, swing up hard and I hit my ceiling ones and then like you 1793 02:07:55.720 --> 02:07:58.399 don't know, I'm I gonna hit that chair Where am I am? I 1794 02:07:58.439 --> 02:08:01.119 facing the windows and I, like eve been in a room with a good 1795 02:08:01.159 --> 02:08:07.399 amount of space. It never feels comfortable really, And I feel like if 1796 02:08:07.399 --> 02:08:09.680 you're going to spend money on something to try to get fit. I think 1797 02:08:09.720 --> 02:08:13.359 there are things you can do, Like I love Peloton. I have all 1798 02:08:13.439 --> 02:08:16.319 their machines the row and I do it every day. I think it's great, 1799 02:08:16.319 --> 02:08:20.520 and like it has this daily refreshing like set of classes. So there's 1800 02:08:20.520 --> 02:08:24.239 so much variety where all of these VR apps, you know, they will 1801 02:08:24.279 --> 02:08:28.520 have a certain cadence that they update things with, but it's also just very 1802 02:08:28.560 --> 02:08:33.239 like a disembodied voice talking to you while just flying. Things are coming at 1803 02:08:33.279 --> 02:08:37.319 you and you're basically doing beatsafer stuff to like duck into this triangle, you 1804 02:08:37.359 --> 02:08:39.600 know, punch this thing this way, do a hook, do an uppercut. 1805 02:08:39.119 --> 02:08:41.800 I mean, you're burning calories. I just think there are better ways, 1806 02:08:41.920 --> 02:08:46.840 more cost effective ways, and more fun ways to do it. And 1807 02:08:46.880 --> 02:08:48.920 then the other aspect of that is like they try to do meditation with some 1808 02:08:48.960 --> 02:08:54.359 of these, so that that supernatural one does that and it's like, okay, 1809 02:08:54.399 --> 02:08:56.039 it can make it seem like you're sitting next to the serene river, 1810 02:08:56.239 --> 02:09:00.520 you're on top of a mountain or snowy something, but like, yeah, 1811 02:09:00.560 --> 02:09:03.159 if that was happening for real, if I was sitting on a mountain or 1812 02:09:03.159 --> 02:09:05.640 by a river meditating, that would be like an ideal meditation circumstance for the 1813 02:09:05.880 --> 02:09:09.640 no outside noise, I can just focus on the nature sounds. But having 1814 02:09:09.720 --> 02:09:15.119 a thing strapped your face with a screen an inch away from your eyeballs, 1815 02:09:15.479 --> 02:09:18.439 I think is so guess someone who's meditated for my entire adult life. It's 1816 02:09:18.479 --> 02:09:22.920 like it's goes against what meditation is to me, where it's all about just 1817 02:09:22.920 --> 02:09:30.960 being in the moment and focusing on your breathe and your real surroundings. See 1818 02:09:31.000 --> 02:09:33.680 exactly, like it doesn't help you like anchor to the present moment. And 1819 02:09:33.720 --> 02:09:37.479 I'm scrolling through because like they have some where it's like I had to like 1820 02:09:37.600 --> 02:09:39.000 find out how to just like, hey, just put me in a screen 1821 02:09:39.000 --> 02:09:41.960 thing let me hear nature sounds, because if you just pick the shit from 1822 02:09:43.000 --> 02:09:46.359 the menu like in Supernatural, it does the thing that a bunch of meditation 1823 02:09:46.399 --> 02:09:48.000 apps do, which I hate, where it's like one of them was Tiffany 1824 02:09:48.000 --> 02:09:54.000 Hattish hosting like this like eight or nine minute thing that's titled Manifesting Abundance where 1825 02:09:54.000 --> 02:09:58.119 it's like, Okay, here's the celebrity teaching me how to manifest getting rich. 1826 02:09:58.159 --> 02:10:01.039 It's like, look, maybe that for some people, but that is 1827 02:10:01.079 --> 02:10:05.239 like a so against my entire approach to meditation. So I don't know. 1828 02:10:05.399 --> 02:10:09.359 I I like the idea. I'll always try like a novel approach to meditation. 1829 02:10:09.439 --> 02:10:11.680 But at the end of the day, I think we kind of got 1830 02:10:13.039 --> 02:10:16.359 the tech of meditation figured out. Just kind of sitting focus on your breath 1831 02:10:16.359 --> 02:10:20.319 for a bit and don't gitting rock. Yeah, that sounds fucking hard to 1832 02:10:20.359 --> 02:10:24.279 do, so the extent of it, yeah, yeah, So I'm not 1833 02:10:24.359 --> 02:10:26.760 sold on that there were There was there was like a VR Baseball, this 1834 02:10:26.880 --> 02:10:30.920 win reality thing that seemed like a pretty cool like training thing if you were 1835 02:10:30.960 --> 02:10:33.880 an actual like high school baseball player or something like there's attachments for your actual 1836 02:10:33.960 --> 02:10:37.439 bat, and that actually felt cool. There was like almost like a home 1837 02:10:37.479 --> 02:10:41.079 run derby element to it where it felt really good, like that the bat 1838 02:10:41.159 --> 02:10:43.279 felt good and it mimics the stadium and the pitches, like it all felt 1839 02:10:43.279 --> 02:10:48.000 the way you would want it to. So there are some very specific use 1840 02:10:48.079 --> 02:10:50.840 cases that I was like, Okay, I can see the benefit of this. 1841 02:10:50.960 --> 02:10:54.439 You can't always go out to a you know, pitching mound or whatever 1842 02:10:54.680 --> 02:10:58.159 or batting cage and you know, actually swing, but you know, you 1843 02:10:58.199 --> 02:11:01.479 just want to get some practicing it feels close to. But also I'm sure 1844 02:11:01.479 --> 02:11:05.800 that like real athletes are probably just fucking training a lot, absolutely not or 1845 02:11:05.840 --> 02:11:09.520 any like legitimate athletes being like, well, I can't make it out to 1846 02:11:09.560 --> 02:11:13.760 the batting cage today. I guess I'll put on my meta helmet. I'll 1847 02:11:13.800 --> 02:11:18.840 do a couple rounds of meditation as I always do by a serene river in 1848 02:11:18.880 --> 02:11:24.439 the Alps, and then I'll have a couple big swings out with my favorite 1849 02:11:24.520 --> 02:11:28.359 pals who are also a metaverse. This is like a farce and it feels 1850 02:11:28.399 --> 02:11:31.960 like something that you would see at like a GDC, where they would try 1851 02:11:31.000 --> 02:11:39.199 and sell you this concept. It doesn't feel legit. It's been waiting to 1852 02:11:39.279 --> 02:11:45.199 say this. I would think the approach if they wanted to like sell people 1853 02:11:45.239 --> 02:11:50.399 on the fitness aspect of this is like working like fitness tracking things into existing 1854 02:11:50.439 --> 02:11:52.439 games, like there are boxes like the Thrill of the Fight or the Creed 1855 02:11:52.479 --> 02:11:56.720 game on like they wish they were them. We still have a bunch of 1856 02:11:56.760 --> 02:12:01.079 step moms to this day playing goal and panting with the stars and we getting 1857 02:12:01.319 --> 02:12:05.600 checked in on the Wii. You wish you're not, it ain't gonna happen. 1858 02:12:07.239 --> 02:12:09.079 You can burn calories doing it. I just don't think. I don't 1859 02:12:09.079 --> 02:12:11.840 think there's dedicated fitness after that. Bring a whole bunch of shit. Do 1860 02:12:11.880 --> 02:12:16.520 you burn calories? Rolling your eyes at how stupid the metaquest is, I'm 1861 02:12:16.600 --> 02:12:20.640 losing batteries. The medic Quest three is the first time I've actually been kind 1862 02:12:20.640 --> 02:12:24.680 of like, it's what got me playing Appli pallets. It's what like like 1863 02:12:24.720 --> 02:12:28.880 the pastor stuff and the lightness and everything and the same integration. Like it 1864 02:12:28.000 --> 02:12:31.640 is the first one to give it a credit. It is getting me there. 1865 02:12:31.720 --> 02:12:35.319 It's getting me there more than any previous incarnation of bar has But I 1866 02:12:35.359 --> 02:12:39.520 still think the entire VR thing has a long way to go. Say it 1867 02:12:39.600 --> 02:12:43.680 to the Wei. We actually burn more calories than any VR all one hundred 1868 02:12:43.720 --> 02:12:52.039 percent, lost many pounds from so many people. We actually did it. 1869 02:12:52.119 --> 02:12:56.920 This is this is a gimmick. But it's cool that you can swing. 1870 02:12:56.760 --> 02:13:01.720 It felt wrong not to swing. You guys want to do emails? Yeah, 1871 02:13:01.039 --> 02:13:05.760 sure, all right, everybody as usual. You can write into firescapecast 1872 02:13:05.760 --> 02:13:09.279 at gmail dot com. We've gotten a shit ton since the New year. 1873 02:13:09.319 --> 02:13:11.840 When we ask people to start writing in more, we're banking them. But 1874 02:13:11.840 --> 02:13:16.239 that does not mean you can't keep writing in question comments, corrections, concerned 1875 02:13:16.479 --> 02:13:18.600 Dan, someone actually let me pull this up. I forgot about this. 1876 02:13:18.720 --> 02:13:26.640 Someone pointed out, what would you call let me figure out a movie? 1877 02:13:28.039 --> 02:13:31.319 What would you call a movie that is about a historic figure, like an 1878 02:13:31.359 --> 02:13:35.640 auto or a biographic? So how you say it? Mary? How do 1879 02:13:35.680 --> 02:13:39.840 you say it history? No? Like, I see what people are saying. 1880 02:13:41.119 --> 02:13:45.439 What they're trying Tore pointing out that you said biopic instead of biopic, 1881 02:13:45.720 --> 02:13:48.560 bionic? You don't say bio. Wait, hang on, I say biopic. 1882 02:13:50.159 --> 02:13:54.560 The correct way to say it is biopic because it's a biographical picture. 1883 02:13:54.000 --> 02:14:00.479 Sure, I get that, But biopic looks sound. It feels more fun 1884 02:14:00.479 --> 02:14:05.239 to say because rolls off the tongue. Yeah yeah, biopic is nice. 1885 02:14:05.239 --> 02:14:09.960 It sounds like a procedure that you get that makes you sexier. It makes 1886 02:14:09.960 --> 02:14:13.760 me feel smart to say biopic, even if i'm did you know he's biopic? 1887 02:14:16.159 --> 02:14:22.159 I knew it. It sounds like it sounds like eighties ish, Like 1888 02:14:22.720 --> 02:14:26.359 no, bionicle wasn't eighties, But like it's like bionic biopic, man, 1889 02:14:26.399 --> 02:14:31.479 that's what I was thinking, or biopical the Lego competitor. But anyway, 1890 02:14:31.560 --> 02:14:35.279 fire Skit cast Gmail dot com. You can write in anytime. Might read 1891 02:14:35.319 --> 02:14:41.279 your questions on air. Uh Mary, do you want to read this first 1892 02:14:41.279 --> 02:14:46.560 one from RAVI sure, Hey, fire Escapist, been listening since day one. 1893 02:14:46.720 --> 02:14:50.319 Love all the content you guys point out. Even though I'm sure GODI 1894 02:14:50.439 --> 02:14:52.359 was a marathon for you all, it was my favorite end of the year 1895 02:14:52.399 --> 02:14:58.920 stuff I concerned consumed last year. Thanks. One of the first games I 1896 02:14:58.000 --> 02:15:01.600 played growing up was Too for Mario Brothers. I was only four or five, 1897 02:15:01.720 --> 02:15:05.840 and I remember dying all the time and barely making any progress. One 1898 02:15:05.960 --> 02:15:09.079 day, I finally made it to World three. I didn't even know about 1899 02:15:09.119 --> 02:15:15.319 world warp pipes or anything like that. I was somehow blown away by the 1900 02:15:15.359 --> 02:15:18.920 fact that this level took place at night. I'm not sure why it's stuck 1901 02:15:18.920 --> 02:15:20.560 with me so much. At this point, I know it's just a color 1902 02:15:20.560 --> 02:15:24.000 swap for the background. However, even to this day, I get nostalgic 1903 02:15:24.000 --> 02:15:28.520 whenever I play it and get to one of those night levels. They're small 1904 02:15:28.560 --> 02:15:31.359 detail from a game from your childhood that seems minor looking back, but it's 1905 02:15:31.439 --> 02:15:35.239 stuck with you throughout the years. Thanks Robbie, Thank you. This is 1906 02:15:35.239 --> 02:15:39.359 a nice, nice email. I appreciate you talking about our GODI. They 1907 02:15:39.399 --> 02:15:43.479 are marathons. It's nice to know that they aren't just wastes of eight hours. 1908 02:15:43.560 --> 02:15:48.720 They're massive slots. Yeah, I hope they're worthwhile. I hope they're 1909 02:15:48.800 --> 02:15:54.600 enjoyable. Time flies. So much of my formative experiences with video games it 1910 02:15:54.640 --> 02:15:58.800 has been Zelda, and then that's continued throughout my life. The I think 1911 02:15:58.840 --> 02:16:03.800 the thing with Ocarina of Time that's stuck with me is how effectively it conveyed 1912 02:16:05.720 --> 02:16:11.880 you. The specific example is when you're inside Jabu Jabu still as a child. 1913 02:16:11.920 --> 02:16:18.119 It's a third dungeon. As a in the game, the walls are 1914 02:16:18.199 --> 02:16:24.600 just flesh stomach like lining, and it wasn't just like I think in any 1915 02:16:24.600 --> 02:16:26.920 other game I played. I don't know a specific example from the same what 1916 02:16:28.079 --> 02:16:33.200 nineteen ninety eight time period that would have been like, oh, you're inside 1917 02:16:33.239 --> 02:16:35.600 a fish. I think a lot of games would have just like shown. 1918 02:16:37.559 --> 02:16:41.200 I don't know, stone walls are like the Doom walls, but this was 1919 02:16:41.239 --> 02:16:46.079 like, no, that's moving flesh and I'm also walking on it, and 1920 02:16:46.200 --> 02:16:50.040 holy shit, there's like part of the puzzle of that dungeon is figuring out 1921 02:16:50.040 --> 02:16:54.440 the right little esophagus to fall through in that one room that has like eight 1922 02:16:54.440 --> 02:16:58.040 of them. Yeah, and I say esophagus, but they're anuses, they're 1923 02:16:58.000 --> 02:17:03.399 inside him. And uh, that's like a collection of details. But the 1924 02:17:03.440 --> 02:17:07.600 way that game made me feel like I was actually inside a big living creature 1925 02:17:07.760 --> 02:17:13.239 was pretty fucking gross at the time, still really good. I don't think 1926 02:17:13.360 --> 02:17:16.399 people often say Akarina times a good game, but I'm here saying Acrea times 1927 02:17:16.399 --> 02:17:20.639 a good game. You know, I like to, you know, go 1928 02:17:20.680 --> 02:17:26.959 out on a limb every once in a while. I think I think that's 1929 02:17:26.000 --> 02:17:30.879 like the kind of the full crumb of how good that game is at details 1930 02:17:30.920 --> 02:17:33.920 like the fact that like I walked in it was like the first time I 1931 02:17:33.920 --> 02:17:35.719 played them, like I'm walking into a giant fish. Sure, okay, 1932 02:17:35.760 --> 02:17:39.639 what's the inside gonna look like? It's just gonna look like, you know, 1933 02:17:39.000 --> 02:17:43.040 maybe it'll look like the Dongo's cavern again or inside it that could tree. 1934 02:17:43.040 --> 02:17:45.760 But I was like, no, this is I'm inside of fish. 1935 02:17:46.200 --> 02:17:52.319 Turns out and it worked really well. Simoon heard about Jabu Jabu. There's 1936 02:17:52.319 --> 02:17:58.639 a dog here is very cute how he's his paws just kind of slip on 1937 02:17:58.680 --> 02:18:03.479 the hardwood while he's walking action. I've got a dog in the frame. 1938 02:18:03.520 --> 02:18:07.719 Now for the audio listener. It's a cute dog named Yft. Lift him 1939 02:18:07.719 --> 02:18:11.319 a little more, Okay. He's a chunky little guy. Yeah, the 1940 02:18:11.360 --> 02:18:15.399 audio listener might be able to hear his brunties because he's pretty grunty. I 1941 02:18:15.440 --> 02:18:18.600 heard him when he lifted him. Yeah. Yeah. He usually is either 1942 02:18:18.639 --> 02:18:24.440 making noises from either end. He's Amanda's always a man. Is always disappointed 1943 02:18:24.440 --> 02:18:26.319 that she still is not met him in person, and dogs a good dog. 1944 02:18:28.079 --> 02:18:33.440 She hasn't met him in dog. He has a dog, Lucimon when 1945 02:18:33.440 --> 02:18:37.399 he was a puppy. Is a handsome boy. He is. He doesn't 1946 02:18:37.399 --> 02:18:43.760 look a day over twenty eight. He's over it. Like I usually go 1947 02:18:43.799 --> 02:18:46.959 into my office you know where I work and stuff, and he'll deal with 1948 02:18:46.000 --> 02:18:48.840 it. He comes in at noon for his walkie. He walks. He 1949 02:18:48.840 --> 02:18:52.840 gets walked every day noon. So if I don't come out by noon, 1950 02:18:52.879 --> 02:18:56.959 he's like, where the fuck are you? And it's it's like almost ten 1951 02:18:56.000 --> 02:19:01.479 pm here my time, So this is like, this is beyond when I 1952 02:19:01.520 --> 02:19:05.840 would ever stream or work. And he's basically like, you're not supposed to 1953 02:19:05.879 --> 02:19:09.719 be in here anymore. It's like your grandma coming coming in to be like 1954 02:19:11.120 --> 02:19:13.639 it's time for you to hang out with me on the couch, or like 1955 02:19:13.760 --> 02:19:18.040 pet me, or hang out with me, or just look at me and 1956 02:19:18.079 --> 02:19:22.040 tell me that I'm cool. No longer time for me to be in here. 1957 02:19:22.280 --> 02:19:24.319 Daisy's licking herself right now. She doesn't give a shit that it's like 1958 02:19:24.319 --> 02:19:30.520 almost one am here, no concept of like time or anything. Nope. 1959 02:19:30.959 --> 02:19:35.200 Yeah, he's like most dogs are. They have like rituals, and my 1960 02:19:35.319 --> 02:19:39.319 dog is like noon, we go outside and he gets very upset if I 1961 02:19:39.319 --> 02:19:43.840 don't take him, and at five he gets fed and around like, well, 1962 02:19:43.879 --> 02:19:46.520 I mean unless I'm streaming. If I'm streaming, I'm out at nine, 1963 02:19:46.040 --> 02:19:48.399 so this is late. He's like, there's no reason for you to 1964 02:19:48.479 --> 02:19:58.399 be in here anymore. Sorry, he doesn't understand podcasting at all. To 1965 02:19:58.479 --> 02:20:05.000 answer your question of simple things, I think I have one that I think 1966 02:20:05.000 --> 02:20:09.520 that is more complicated. As a child playing Jurassic Park, the original game, 1967 02:20:09.559 --> 02:20:15.719 where you play as a guy who's like avoiding uh dinosaurs, the Justice 1968 02:20:15.760 --> 02:20:18.040 fun where you could be the Raptor or Grant. Yeah. Yeah. When 1969 02:20:18.079 --> 02:20:22.360 I found out that I could be a Raptor, I only played as a 1970 02:20:22.440 --> 02:20:26.680 Raptor. I thought it was the coolest thing in the whole world. Copies 1971 02:20:28.040 --> 02:20:31.120 believe that you could play as a raptor in that game, and I thought 1972 02:20:31.159 --> 02:20:33.879 that was really rad. But you have to unlock it. No, No, 1973 02:20:35.000 --> 02:20:37.079 that was like a game you're grant or the Raptor at the beginning. 1974 02:20:37.120 --> 02:20:43.399 Yeah, it's just nuts that they included it, and that somebody convinced somebody 1975 02:20:43.440 --> 02:20:46.000 in that company that was like, what if you could play as a raptor. 1976 02:20:46.079 --> 02:20:48.520 That's like a simple meeting where they all laughed and were like, that 1977 02:20:48.559 --> 02:20:52.520 guy's nuts. But then they fucking did it. They made an entire version 1978 02:20:52.520 --> 02:20:54.840 of the game where you play as a raptor, which I think is insane. 1979 02:20:54.079 --> 02:20:58.239 But I don't think that's a no. I was gonna say sorry when 1980 02:20:58.239 --> 02:21:03.920 you you mentioned like the meeting where someone suggested that every game of that era 1981 02:21:03.079 --> 02:21:09.799 was fueled by cocaine. I have to I was on so many drugs and 1982 02:21:09.840 --> 02:21:13.000 they and they did it, and they made it the Key and Peel, 1983 02:21:13.600 --> 02:21:16.959 It's Judge, Yeah, the Gremlins two. Yeah, Oh my god. 1984 02:21:18.600 --> 02:21:22.239 I watched Aerobics Meltdown again the other day. I think that's my favorite. 1985 02:21:22.280 --> 02:21:28.479 Key and Peel skit after Gremlins two Aerobics meltdown is and what's his name? 1986 02:21:30.520 --> 02:21:39.120 Uh? Uh, what the hell? I can't Ron Howard's brother. Yeah, 1987 02:21:39.120 --> 02:21:41.440 he's holding the the Q cards. It's like, I'm sorry, keep 1988 02:21:41.559 --> 02:21:46.719 dancing. Your wife was in a car accident. The daughter was writing shotgun, 1989 02:21:46.879 --> 02:21:52.920 keep dancing, smile. It's really good, Dan Well, I was 1990 02:21:52.920 --> 02:21:56.000 gonna say, like a more simple version, because that's very complicated. I 1991 02:21:56.000 --> 02:21:58.680 don't think that actually fuels the prompt is that one of the very first games 1992 02:21:58.680 --> 02:22:03.879 I ever played as a kid was a King's Quest game that my dad sent 1993 02:22:03.959 --> 02:22:07.879 me King's Quest seven, and I remember being really blown away by the fact 1994 02:22:07.920 --> 02:22:11.239 that in a game like this point and click adventure game, very old school, 1995 02:22:13.000 --> 02:22:16.159 that if you clicked on a character, they would keep talking for a 1996 02:22:16.200 --> 02:22:18.879 long, extended period of time. And this was the first time I had 1997 02:22:18.920 --> 02:22:22.000 ever experienced the idea that if you clicked on a character again, it had 1998 02:22:22.159 --> 02:22:26.959 new things to say to you. I always assumed it would when it was 1999 02:22:26.000 --> 02:22:28.319 done, it was time for you to move on, and my dad will 2000 02:22:28.360 --> 02:22:31.239 be like, click on them again. It turns out they had something else 2001 02:22:31.239 --> 02:22:35.680 to say. There's a very specific character, which is a mockingbird in one 2002 02:22:35.719 --> 02:22:41.479 of the spaces. It must have had one hundred jokes, and if you 2003 02:22:41.520 --> 02:22:46.840 clicked on it, it would make fun of the character and belittle you and 2004 02:22:46.879 --> 02:22:50.479 be like you smell like a pair of pants from the One hundred Year War, 2005 02:22:50.719 --> 02:22:52.959 and they would be like, you'll cover your face, you're scaring the 2006 02:22:52.959 --> 02:22:56.760 horses. But he had like a hundred of them, And it blew my 2007 02:22:56.239 --> 02:23:03.319 mind that they recorded hundreds of dialogue, hundreds of this bird making fun of 2008 02:23:03.360 --> 02:23:05.200 me, so that if I just happened to click on him, he had 2009 02:23:05.200 --> 02:23:09.840 a fresh one ready to ready to make fun of me. I just think 2010 02:23:09.840 --> 02:23:13.719 that's fascinating. Like it's not a big deal and it's very commonplace now, 2011 02:23:13.760 --> 02:23:16.559 But childhood Mary thought that was insane. I was like, man, there's 2012 02:23:16.600 --> 02:23:24.639 like a whole portion of this game's storage just for these birds smack talk, 2013 02:23:24.159 --> 02:23:28.239 just in case one person does this over and over and over again. I 2014 02:23:28.280 --> 02:23:30.559 don't even know you could do that anyway. I thought it was really cool. 2015 02:23:31.959 --> 02:23:33.719 Mine was. I have a very distinct memory the first time I ever 2016 02:23:35.079 --> 02:23:39.920 experienced a new console like generation, where I was a little kid. I 2017 02:23:39.959 --> 02:23:41.040 was like, you know, at this point, I was probably like seven 2018 02:23:41.120 --> 02:23:45.680 or eight and I got a Nintendo Power that advertised Mario World, and I 2019 02:23:45.680 --> 02:23:48.239 was obsessed with Mario at that point, and I was telling my dad, 2020 02:23:48.280 --> 02:23:50.440 I got to get this, this seems so good, and he was looking 2021 02:23:50.479 --> 02:23:52.719 at it and he was like, I think he needed a new system for 2022 02:23:52.799 --> 02:23:54.600 this, and I was like, what does that mean? What do you 2023 02:23:54.639 --> 02:23:58.239 mean we have a Nintendo. What do you mean like the concept of other 2024 02:23:58.280 --> 02:24:01.399 systems. I didn't understand. It was just video games were Nintendo. And 2025 02:24:01.479 --> 02:24:05.920 so it was one Christmas, it must have been ninety one or ninety two. 2026 02:24:05.399 --> 02:24:09.360 I got a Superintendo which came with Mario World, and I also got 2027 02:24:09.399 --> 02:24:13.040 Length to the Past, which are like two of the all time, all 2028 02:24:13.120 --> 02:24:18.319 time perfect games. Like yeah, so I was torn and I decided to 2029 02:24:18.319 --> 02:24:22.399 go with Length of the Past, and I remember like starting it up and 2030 02:24:22.440 --> 02:24:26.280 it looked incredible. The music was different, but it was the moment when 2031 02:24:26.319 --> 02:24:28.120 at the very beginning, after you wake up in Link's house and you go 2032 02:24:28.159 --> 02:24:33.399 out the front door the rain. You're seeing this like diagonal rain, and 2033 02:24:33.440 --> 02:24:37.520 it's kind of like dark outside and for voting music and stuff, but specifically 2034 02:24:37.559 --> 02:24:39.200 just seeing the rain, and you can see these little drops on the ground 2035 02:24:39.200 --> 02:24:43.200 and stuff, and that level look like there had been rain levels in any 2036 02:24:43.280 --> 02:24:46.399 S games and Ninja Guidance and stuff before, but like there was something about 2037 02:24:46.440 --> 02:24:50.120 the detail and the music fidelity and everything where I was like, oh my 2038 02:24:50.239 --> 02:24:54.440 god, everything's changed. This is like this is on a different level than 2039 02:24:54.479 --> 02:24:58.559 any video game I've ever seen. And then I popped in Mario World and 2040 02:24:58.600 --> 02:25:01.920 it was the gas Bullet bill. It was that Bondsie bill they came through. 2041 02:25:01.879 --> 02:25:05.319 It was like they couldn't make things this big on the nes like those 2042 02:25:05.360 --> 02:25:09.479 two back to back like understanding, like that big graphical leap that was always 2043 02:25:09.520 --> 02:25:13.719 like nowadays that that's lesson. I feel like nowadays with like kind of the 2044 02:25:13.719 --> 02:25:16.639 mid console jumps stuff, it's a bit lesson. Yeah, back in the 2045 02:25:16.719 --> 02:25:20.520 day, oh my god, you get a new console and it jumps like 2046 02:25:20.760 --> 02:25:22.959 sixty four, Oh my god, a three D like huge, massive, 2047 02:25:24.319 --> 02:25:28.079 literal game changing leaps. But my first experience with that Superintendo and be like, 2048 02:25:28.120 --> 02:25:31.639 oh, everything's different. This is so much better now, fucking even 2049 02:25:31.719 --> 02:25:37.239 like U My brother was getting deployed to Iraq with the Marines, so we 2050 02:25:37.280 --> 02:25:41.559 did a Christmas Earth like eight months early, and my parents got us all 2051 02:25:41.600 --> 02:25:46.440 at Xbox three sixty and they're like, oh, here's Madden O seven six 2052 02:25:46.680 --> 02:25:48.719 six was the last six It was us because it was it came out in 2053 02:25:48.719 --> 02:25:56.520 November five, but it would be the six Madden. Yes, so we 2054 02:25:56.520 --> 02:25:58.600 were doing an early Christmas. So maybe it wasn't that bar in advance, 2055 02:25:58.639 --> 02:26:03.280 but I remember were like even then, I remember Madden was like since the 2056 02:26:03.440 --> 02:26:07.760 Xbox, I was like, what the fuck is this what it's gonna be? 2057 02:26:07.799 --> 02:26:11.760 Like every time a new console comes out? Do you have a TV? 2058 02:26:11.479 --> 02:26:13.959 Yeah, that's a huge jump too, because that was the first A 2059 02:26:15.079 --> 02:26:16.719 two system. Oh yeah that too. It was like kind of doubled up 2060 02:26:16.760 --> 02:26:20.360 there. But it's like, maybe it's a bit unfair because I had the 2061 02:26:20.399 --> 02:26:22.639 TV as well. But like even if the Xbox One, I was like, 2062 02:26:22.799 --> 02:26:24.399 I don't know, I don't want to just reminisce for old times sake, 2063 02:26:24.440 --> 02:26:26.040 but it was. It was incredible, But like, yeah, I 2064 02:26:26.760 --> 02:26:33.879 going for PS four to PS five Xbox one A series X. I do 2065 02:26:33.000 --> 02:26:37.520 miss that, Like, oh my god, games are different now. Yep, 2066 02:26:37.959 --> 02:26:45.799 getting a PS two playing Grand Trismo it's so realistic. Yeah, well 2067 02:26:45.840 --> 02:26:48.559 yeah that that three sixty. I remember they released two screen shots before the 2068 02:26:48.600 --> 02:26:52.319 three sixty came out, like the first screen shots were like Madden and it 2069 02:26:52.360 --> 02:26:56.200 was like a need for speed, so it's like football and cars, and 2070 02:26:56.239 --> 02:26:58.520 both of them were just total bullshit, you know, just like rendered, 2071 02:26:58.600 --> 02:27:01.680 like this is what gameplay is. But I remember thinking, like staring at 2072 02:27:01.680 --> 02:27:05.159 the detail met Madden screenshot of the grass and everything, It's like, oh 2073 02:27:05.200 --> 02:27:09.719 my god, this looks so fucking real. We were the we are still 2074 02:27:09.760 --> 02:27:16.000 to this day, the biggest Perfect Dark family you'll ever meet, which is 2075 02:27:16.799 --> 02:27:20.319 what a weird phrase. But playing Perfect Dark zero on three sixty, which 2076 02:27:20.360 --> 02:27:24.760 is not a good game, we still were just flabbergasted. Were like, 2077 02:27:24.360 --> 02:27:28.440 this is what Perfect Dark is like in the three sixty era. This Call 2078 02:27:28.479 --> 02:27:31.200 of Duty two, remember that how we played that. Call of Duty two 2079 02:27:31.280 --> 02:27:33.879 is still a really good game. By the way. I was talking to 2080 02:27:33.879 --> 02:27:37.120 my brother about that. He's like, hey, I got like a weird 2081 02:27:37.440 --> 02:27:41.239 So my brother, uh, one of my brothers is getting more into PC 2082 02:27:41.440 --> 02:27:45.479 games because he got in the Steam deck, and then he also has a 2083 02:27:45.559 --> 02:27:50.120 decent gaming laptop that he acquired, so he's like, hey, I've been 2084 02:27:50.120 --> 02:27:54.280 playing like Call of Duty games. I got this bundle like every Call of 2085 02:27:54.319 --> 02:27:58.440 Duty game for like one hundred and twenty dollars. I'm like, it's actually 2086 02:27:58.479 --> 02:28:01.680 not bad for how many Called Duty games there have been for one hundred and 2087 02:28:01.680 --> 02:28:05.239 twenty bucks. He's like, it's sick. I'm playing through I'm a met 2088 02:28:05.280 --> 02:28:11.079 Call of Duty too, first one oh the campaigns because I know he's playing 2089 02:28:11.079 --> 02:28:13.760 through them in order. Wow. So he's at Call Duty too, and 2090 02:28:13.760 --> 02:28:16.959 I'm like, oh, that's the best, one of the best Call of 2091 02:28:18.000 --> 02:28:20.719 Duty games. And he's like, yeah, it's incredible. It's like you 2092 02:28:20.760 --> 02:28:24.840 know, the Rangers at D Day. It's like a British in Africa. 2093 02:28:24.520 --> 02:28:28.760 And he's like, uh, did it look this good on three sixty. 2094 02:28:28.799 --> 02:28:31.120 I'm like, it looked pretty good on three sixty when I played it back 2095 02:28:31.159 --> 02:28:35.280 then. But like ps three smoke Grenades, I remember the smoker aids. 2096 02:28:35.479 --> 02:28:39.120 Hold. What is he playing it on? He's playing it on like a 2097 02:28:39.159 --> 02:28:43.239 gaming laptop. Might be playing on Steam deck as well, but he got 2098 02:28:43.280 --> 02:28:46.760 both kind of concurrently. But is it like is it using an emulator? 2099 02:28:46.760 --> 02:28:50.680 He's just playing it on PC. He's playing it on PC. On Steam 2100 02:28:50.719 --> 02:28:52.920 you can play all that. Oh yeah, there's bundles on Call Duty that 2101 02:28:52.959 --> 02:28:58.040 go and sell for I want to say every Call of Duty up until like 2102 02:28:58.159 --> 02:29:01.440 the very no, because the modern ones are out there too, But like 2103 02:29:01.520 --> 02:29:07.559 their bundles that include everyone a good game series, every playing the Call of 2104 02:29:07.600 --> 02:29:13.159 Duty campaigns, they're sure yeah, fucking oh man, call of Duty campaigns 2105 02:29:13.680 --> 02:29:18.639 for all the for all the like mainstream ship we give them like. Call 2106 02:29:18.680 --> 02:29:22.639 of Duty campaigns are usually really fucking fun, especially back in that heyday of 2107 02:29:22.719 --> 02:29:28.079 like the Infinity wards Call of Duty two to four, Yeah, Big Red 2108 02:29:28.120 --> 02:29:31.479 one. The intro to find a stower was just Enemy at the Gates with 2109 02:29:31.600 --> 02:29:37.479 Jude Law and Ed Harris and Rachel watch a good film, yes, And 2110 02:29:37.559 --> 02:29:41.879 the intro to find a stower was literally crossing the Volga with and then one 2111 02:29:41.920 --> 02:29:46.559 of your partner has the rifle but you have the extra bandoliers. Great, 2112 02:29:46.600 --> 02:29:48.399 I play through all that again. What was that face for it? Dan, 2113 02:29:48.680 --> 02:29:50.680 I'm looking. I just looked up Call of Duty two to see it 2114 02:29:50.719 --> 02:29:54.159 was on Steam and it is. But I just found a Call of Duty 2115 02:29:54.239 --> 02:29:58.360 franchise collection on Steam which is ten percent off right now, so you can 2116 02:29:58.399 --> 02:30:03.799 get it for the low price of nine hundred and sixty two dollars. Okay, 2117 02:30:03.840 --> 02:30:07.200 No, my brother got like some crazy buntle for one hundred and twenty 2118 02:30:07.280 --> 02:30:16.399 dollars during a Steam sale. Wow that is wow, that's very expensive, 2119 02:30:16.920 --> 02:30:20.040 jeeze. But yeah, there's everything from Call of Duty one, United Defensive 2120 02:30:20.079 --> 02:30:22.920 two four. Oh they don't have three, those stinkers. How many games 2121 02:30:22.920 --> 02:30:26.079 do you? Okay? Was three not on Steam, it's not on the 2122 02:30:26.079 --> 02:30:30.799 three bunnel three. It was definitely not great, but I still have a 2123 02:30:30.799 --> 02:30:33.600 soft spot for it. It tried to do the two like, uhmember, 2124 02:30:33.600 --> 02:30:35.360 you'd like melee someone, you'd have like a quick time event to like wrestle 2125 02:30:35.360 --> 02:30:37.799 the gun from them. But it was a cool storyline like you were a 2126 02:30:37.879 --> 02:30:43.000 French resistance fighter and part of it, which was awesome because like they were 2127 02:30:43.079 --> 02:30:46.120 badass as Black Ops. It has four as monern war per two has a 2128 02:30:46.120 --> 02:30:52.479 bunch of like zombie shit for Black Ops per two Wait no wait sorry montor 2129 02:30:52.520 --> 02:30:54.639 work for three mon War for two Black Ops two. Okay, it seems 2130 02:30:54.639 --> 02:30:58.879 like it has does have infinite warfare. Okay, it's got like everything, 2131 02:30:58.920 --> 02:31:03.360 but three it seems weird. But yeah, almost a thousand dollars. Didn't 2132 02:31:03.360 --> 02:31:11.520 get the rights. That's too high. Thousand dollars, But yeah, buy 2133 02:31:11.559 --> 02:31:16.719 a new game, bitch, lot of good details. Thousand dollars. I 2134 02:31:16.760 --> 02:31:24.200 have one thousand dollars. You buy like fifteen year old Call of Duties, 2135 02:31:24.840 --> 02:31:26.479 buy a new game. You can get the Call of Duty war Chest, 2136 02:31:26.520 --> 02:31:30.440 which is just called Duty. Call of Duty two in United Defensive and that's 2137 02:31:30.440 --> 02:31:33.399 only twenty nine ninety eight, so fair price. Duty Call Duty two and 2138 02:31:33.440 --> 02:31:41.200 what United Call Duty United Offensive? Which that was the play which was before 2139 02:31:41.399 --> 02:31:45.239 Call of Duty two called Duty. She was six, wasn't it. Yeah? 2140 02:31:45.239 --> 02:31:48.360 I don't know what this is. It doesn't it EPI? Yeah, 2141 02:31:48.479 --> 02:31:52.719 yeah, God. Call Duty two is really good. It's great, a 2142 02:31:52.799 --> 02:31:56.520 lot of fun. One of my first online games I put a ton of 2143 02:31:56.520 --> 02:31:58.959 time into. I guess Halo two is the first big one. I want 2144 02:31:58.000 --> 02:32:03.760 to watch Masters at the It's the like Bannon Brothers the Pacific. This is 2145 02:32:03.840 --> 02:32:09.360 the Air Force war Worth. Oh sure, but it's about like the guys 2146 02:32:09.360 --> 02:32:15.159 who bomb Dresden, which cannot be fun to watch. Dan, you want 2147 02:32:15.159 --> 02:32:20.280 to read this next one from Adam? Yes, how do you fire escape? 2148 02:32:20.319 --> 02:32:24.079 Prue? Longtime listener, first time emailer. I hope you're all ringing 2149 02:32:24.120 --> 02:32:28.520 in the new year. Well, answering the call for interesting questions. I 2150 02:32:28.559 --> 02:32:31.719 wanted to ask you a question. My fiance and I had a lengthy discussion 2151 02:32:31.719 --> 02:32:35.280 about in the past that I thought brought up a lot of interesting ideas in 2152 02:32:35.319 --> 02:32:39.079 a different timeline of your life, what job do you realistically think you'd have 2153 02:32:39.360 --> 02:32:43.680 given you don't have your current job? For reference, I'm a software developer 2154 02:32:43.719 --> 02:32:48.840 in my fiance is a reading specialist, and we said mortician and nurse, 2155 02:32:48.000 --> 02:32:52.040 respectively. Very different careers in lives than we have now. Anyway, thanks 2156 02:32:52.040 --> 02:32:54.840 for the hours of fund and please tell Dan he can't be president in this 2157 02:32:54.920 --> 02:33:00.440 scenario. Nah. But I mean if I'm giving a realistic answer about the 2158 02:33:00.559 --> 02:33:07.360 second career, I'm talking about realistic answers. What's a reading specialist? Well, 2159 02:33:07.440 --> 02:33:09.319 yeah, so that was my question. So Adam said, for reference, 2160 02:33:09.440 --> 02:33:13.959 I'm a software developer. In my fiances are reading specialists, and we 2161 02:33:13.040 --> 02:33:20.520 said mortician and nurse. So what does those specialists I don't know read really 2162 02:33:20.600 --> 02:33:26.600 well? Does she read competitively? Does she read for non readers? And 2163 02:33:26.760 --> 02:33:35.000 how do you tell them? This is tall and you said it before the 2164 02:33:35.040 --> 02:33:41.680 other guy. She's like a somolier for books. I can name that. 2165 02:33:43.360 --> 02:33:48.280 It was the best of times. Okay, well here's my question. Maybe 2166 02:33:48.440 --> 02:33:54.559 Brent put it into two questions. What is what is a realistic job that 2167 02:33:54.920 --> 02:34:00.600 both of you, based on your past, maybe branching choices you've made your 2168 02:34:00.600 --> 02:34:03.639 life, could realistically be doing in another timeline. I mean, I think 2169 02:34:03.639 --> 02:34:07.239 the only other answer for me is go all in on wrestling, Like that's 2170 02:34:07.280 --> 02:34:09.760 the two things I know video games and I know wrestling, Like, I 2171 02:34:09.840 --> 02:34:13.840 don't know what the fuck else I would do that? No offense, that's 2172 02:34:13.879 --> 02:34:16.799 obvious. What is there a world in which it wasn't that too? I 2173 02:34:16.799 --> 02:34:20.280 guess because I did also do that per job. I was gonna say, 2174 02:34:20.319 --> 02:34:22.760 you know that about you? Couldn't you have been a you know, a 2175 02:34:22.840 --> 02:34:26.239 person who like made cups out of clay or some ship, Like, wasn't 2176 02:34:26.239 --> 02:34:31.600 there something else that? No grocery? No, I never really had an 2177 02:34:31.639 --> 02:34:35.719 interest or knowledge in that, like in this life. In this life, 2178 02:34:35.799 --> 02:34:41.879 is there a life in which you did take into the Riker franchise? You 2179 02:34:41.920 --> 02:34:46.680 didn't make it in gaming and you did not make it in wrestling? What 2180 02:34:46.719 --> 02:34:50.360 are you doing? Like you want to take and whatever job will pay me? 2181 02:34:50.440 --> 02:34:54.760 Like I don't think, like there's no other obvious. I'm working at 2182 02:34:54.799 --> 02:34:58.360 making milk, I'm managing a movie theater. You know, seems possible. 2183 02:34:58.479 --> 02:35:01.680 I mean I worked AMC because I also love movies, not on the level 2184 02:35:01.680 --> 02:35:07.120 of like games and wrestling, but I I worked at AMC for years enjoyed 2185 02:35:07.120 --> 02:35:11.479 it. No, no, no, no, no, okay, because 2186 02:35:11.520 --> 02:35:15.920 like Dan, you are someone who I don't think there's any timeline in which 2187 02:35:15.959 --> 02:35:20.360 you are not just like going one thousand percent into what you are into. 2188 02:35:22.000 --> 02:35:28.639 I think with you it's less what were you funneled into and more not that 2189 02:35:28.760 --> 02:35:31.120 like managing a movie theater would not be got I was in movie theaters too. 2190 02:35:33.559 --> 02:35:37.719 No, I see, Danny'll be like eating gobstoppers and be like it's 2191 02:35:37.719 --> 02:35:41.760 not everlasting two out of ten and every stoppers. I think I think you 2192 02:35:41.799 --> 02:35:46.639 could make it. Going off of your personality, which we all know and 2193 02:35:46.719 --> 02:35:54.719 love. I think you could not in any timeline not be like extremely passionate 2194 02:35:54.719 --> 02:36:00.200 and ambitious. So the fun part of the question for you is like in 2195 02:36:00.239 --> 02:36:03.360 another life, if it wasn't wrestling or video games, what is the thing 2196 02:36:03.840 --> 02:36:05.840 that you would have gotten so into, or rather that you did get into 2197 02:36:05.959 --> 02:36:09.000 in this life that you didn't really pursue that you would have been like so 2198 02:36:09.399 --> 02:36:15.559 fucking obsessed with that you would have applied the Dan Reikert formula to which is 2199 02:36:15.639 --> 02:36:18.719 just to go all in on it and what other life are you this like 2200 02:36:18.840 --> 02:36:24.639 obsessive that has had success. Well, I think I realized, and I 2201 02:36:24.680 --> 02:36:26.959 think it is actually in this life. It's the thing I went to fucking 2202 02:36:26.000 --> 02:36:30.000 college for. It's you know, in junior high high school, I got 2203 02:36:30.040 --> 02:36:33.920 so into like making short films and comedy and video production and things like that. 2204 02:36:33.000 --> 02:36:37.799 And I love editing, I love directing stuff, writing stuff like I 2205 02:36:37.840 --> 02:36:41.120 think the only one of the only reasons I really pivoted away. I went 2206 02:36:41.280 --> 02:36:43.639 into college as a film major and made a sketch show that aired on television 2207 02:36:43.680 --> 02:36:48.920 throughout college and everything. Like, I think the thing that moved me away 2208 02:36:48.959 --> 02:36:52.159 from it was I got a job writing video game reviews for newspaper, and 2209 02:36:52.200 --> 02:36:56.959 I love that more. You know, I think if games had not worked 2210 02:36:56.959 --> 02:37:00.280 out, I think maybe I would have gone all the way in and just 2211 02:37:00.319 --> 02:37:03.520 trying to like make comedy late night comedy writing. I would have loved to 2212 02:37:03.760 --> 02:37:07.000 try to go from college to writing for conin or something like that. So 2213 02:37:07.159 --> 02:37:09.760 absolutely could have seen you as a writer, just a comedy writer. I 2214 02:37:09.760 --> 02:37:13.120 think that's it. Yeah. I was gonna say yeah, because I think 2215 02:37:13.799 --> 02:37:18.159 I think by the logic of this question, there's another you right now. 2216 02:37:18.200 --> 02:37:22.959 That's like, if I didn't follow my passion in college, maybe I would 2217 02:37:24.000 --> 02:37:28.360 have just like continued my obsession with video games and wrestling, which you have 2218 02:37:28.479 --> 02:37:31.399 done in this world. So it's like, that's what's fun about it. 2219 02:37:31.440 --> 02:37:35.159 You have done both of those things. Question. Yeah, yeah, we 2220 02:37:35.280 --> 02:37:37.840 would happened if you did not do those I didn't do the movie thing I 2221 02:37:37.879 --> 02:37:43.959 didn't do. Then this other world where you have become this like successful producer. 2222 02:37:45.000 --> 02:37:50.319 Yeah, Mary, what about you? So possible careers that I went. 2223 02:37:50.360 --> 02:37:54.799 I always was pretty obsessed with video so I think it would have maybe 2224 02:37:54.840 --> 02:37:56.959 done that. But there were times where I was really struggling to make it 2225 02:37:58.040 --> 02:38:03.000 as a video professional. And both of those times in my career, I 2226 02:38:03.200 --> 02:38:07.920 was a secretary, and I usually was like the person who greeted people at 2227 02:38:07.959 --> 02:38:11.159 our film company. That I that was like the very first legitimate job I 2228 02:38:11.239 --> 02:38:16.719 got, and I was going to get at greeting people and answering the telephone 2229 02:38:16.799 --> 02:38:18.639 and sending people to the appropriate party. And so I feel like I would 2230 02:38:18.680 --> 02:38:22.840 have made a pretty good secretary. But when I was ready to move on 2231 02:38:22.959 --> 02:38:30.840 from that job, I was I got a really good interview for the secretary 2232 02:38:31.239 --> 02:38:35.079 of the president of a company, and it was a big deal to me. 2233 02:38:35.120 --> 02:38:39.159 It was a very legit corporate company, and I got dressed in my 2234 02:38:39.280 --> 02:38:48.520 nicest suit for this interview to be the executive's assistant. I've always I think 2235 02:38:48.600 --> 02:38:50.719 that kind of sounds cool and it comes with a lot of prestige. And 2236 02:38:50.799 --> 02:38:58.280 it was at sally May, the number one company that calls you if you 2237 02:38:58.360 --> 02:39:03.040 owe the money for college. It's not a great company, but I was 2238 02:39:03.280 --> 02:39:07.920 twenty two and needed a job and it seemed like a great fit for me, 2239 02:39:07.000 --> 02:39:13.079 and I was very eager, and so I was in the final round. 2240 02:39:13.120 --> 02:39:16.040 I was in the final two as me and some other girl and I 2241 02:39:16.079 --> 02:39:20.319 went to the Sally May company corporate and I had this interview with the main 2242 02:39:20.399 --> 02:39:24.040 guy, and I remember like the whole place was filled with little signs that 2243 02:39:24.159 --> 02:39:28.040 said, like congratulations to the person who got the most money that week, 2244 02:39:28.079 --> 02:39:33.719 because that's what they do. And he was really into golf and he told 2245 02:39:33.719 --> 02:39:35.920 me he likes to golf all the time and he doesn't want to be bothered 2246 02:39:35.920 --> 02:39:37.959 when he's golfing. And I said, that's awesome, And I didn't get 2247 02:39:37.959 --> 02:39:41.920 the job. But I think I think in another world I would have made 2248 02:39:41.959 --> 02:39:46.600 an awesome executive assistant. I think, are you be happy doing that? 2249 02:39:46.879 --> 02:39:50.879 I don't know, That's not what the question is. I don't think so. 2250 02:39:50.760 --> 02:40:01.040 I could see, I could see you owning a successful group of breweries. 2251 02:40:01.959 --> 02:40:05.879 I think that I would love so my fantasy job, if that's where 2252 02:40:05.879 --> 02:40:07.159 we're at. No, no, no, not fantasy. I don't think 2253 02:40:07.159 --> 02:40:11.840 it's fancy. I think like there is a world in which you know that 2254 02:40:11.319 --> 02:40:16.120 it is a world is my fantasy world where I own a brewery and it 2255 02:40:16.280 --> 02:40:22.719 also helps find homes for puppies. Hell yeah, and that's a cool job. 2256 02:40:22.959 --> 02:40:26.319 Go and get a beer, and then you can look at dogs and 2257 02:40:26.360 --> 02:40:28.440 maybe you can play with them, and then if you like one, you 2258 02:40:28.440 --> 02:40:33.479 can take them home. And you've got an arcade in this brewery. Let's 2259 02:40:33.319 --> 02:40:37.719 dogs and beer. Yeah, because you got to hook the regular people who 2260 02:40:37.799 --> 02:40:41.799 just want to play the video games. We have a lot of those though. 2261 02:40:41.840 --> 02:40:48.600 We have a lot of video game based uh bars in Portland, Like, 2262 02:40:48.639 --> 02:40:52.200 we have so many it's hard to choose. And the other day we 2263 02:40:52.280 --> 02:40:54.520 got to eat, you know every once in a while, and I went 2264 02:40:54.559 --> 02:40:58.680 to a pizza place that we've gone to for years, and they had a 2265 02:40:58.719 --> 02:41:03.200 fuck arcade in the back and I didn't know. I was going to the 2266 02:41:03.239 --> 02:41:05.200 bathroom and I was like, there's a whole arcade back, hitting room back, 2267 02:41:05.239 --> 02:41:09.159 there a whole arcade, and I missed it. I was like, 2268 02:41:09.200 --> 02:41:13.399 this is just another arcade bar. I mean, good for them, but 2269 02:41:13.799 --> 02:41:16.920 arcade bars are not few and far between here. I mean there's an arcade 2270 02:41:16.959 --> 02:41:20.719 bar every every block. It's a Starbucks here in Portland. I went to 2271 02:41:22.000 --> 02:41:26.799 one in Portland with Jake Fuck. I don't even know how to describe where 2272 02:41:26.799 --> 02:41:31.959 it was. I think it was fairly well known, like Pete Brown recommended 2273 02:41:31.959 --> 02:41:35.799 it. That's all I have. What was it? What did you say? 2274 02:41:37.280 --> 02:41:43.360 Quarter World? That was probably it? But yeah, I got on 2275 02:41:43.440 --> 02:41:48.079 the first try. Do you guys hear that? Yeah, it's funny. 2276 02:41:48.120 --> 02:41:54.200 I can pinpoint like a couple specific turning points in my life. I think 2277 02:41:54.239 --> 02:41:58.120 there's a world in which I did not get my tailbone fractured playing lacrosse, 2278 02:41:58.319 --> 02:42:03.840 and I continued playing lacrosse in college thinking about it seriously, like thinking this 2279 02:42:03.879 --> 02:42:09.239 should be something I'm doing and spending most of my time if I'm not playing 2280 02:42:09.280 --> 02:42:18.000 them, like training to play. I was still in like college for media 2281 02:42:18.040 --> 02:42:24.799 and communications at that point, so I can see my I could see myself 2282 02:42:24.840 --> 02:42:33.079 in another life actually writing more for like a mainstream sports yeah, out of 2283 02:42:33.120 --> 02:42:37.559 college like sports, which I did. I've done that in this life, 2284 02:42:37.600 --> 02:42:41.239 but I could see pushing that farther because I've written about SEC West football, 2285 02:42:41.239 --> 02:42:46.440 basketball, baseball, which is like you know, good, you know good 2286 02:42:46.479 --> 02:42:52.719 teams. Arkansas was in a you know, top of the league and certain 2287 02:42:52.760 --> 02:42:58.879 aspects, but like in terms of things that might have changed that led me 2288 02:43:00.079 --> 02:43:07.600 a different direction. I feel as if there's a world in which I tried, 2289 02:43:07.879 --> 02:43:11.479 and I'm not saying I succeeded, but most of my life, being 2290 02:43:11.479 --> 02:43:15.399 the youngest of five, the best way to get my siblings intention was to 2291 02:43:15.440 --> 02:43:20.040 try to be funny. I think there's a world in which I tried clown, 2292 02:43:20.479 --> 02:43:26.719 to be like a stand up comedian of some sort. I would kill 2293 02:43:26.760 --> 02:43:30.120 to see you do it now now, party clown, No, because doing 2294 02:43:30.120 --> 02:43:33.239 it now I haven't been training. I have been like a very funny person. 2295 02:43:33.280 --> 02:43:37.440 I would love to see you given ernest like open my five you know. 2296 02:43:37.840 --> 02:43:41.280 But but like in this life, I had been doing that since I 2297 02:43:41.319 --> 02:43:52.639 was twenty and I think part of my like DNA is very I don't get 2298 02:43:52.680 --> 02:43:56.360 embarrassed easily. I used to say I don't get embarrassed, but that's not 2299 02:43:56.399 --> 02:44:01.040 true, because I do. But it's not easy for me to get embarrassed. 2300 02:44:01.680 --> 02:44:07.159 And then also again, I've always like I grew up feeling like I 2301 02:44:07.200 --> 02:44:11.079 needed to be a performer to get all these people who I fucking loved and 2302 02:44:11.159 --> 02:44:16.760 admired aka my siblings who are older than me by several years. I've talked 2303 02:44:16.799 --> 02:44:18.719 before is like, my next sibling is six years above me. I'm the 2304 02:44:18.719 --> 02:44:22.079 youngest of five, and they're all well older than me, not well older, 2305 02:44:22.120 --> 02:44:26.479 but like you know, like I was always trying the best way to 2306 02:44:26.479 --> 02:44:31.120 get their attention was to say something hilarious. So like, I think I 2307 02:44:31.200 --> 02:44:35.680 grew up and valuing performance and trying to be a natural performer. So like, 2308 02:44:37.040 --> 02:44:39.000 I think there's a world in which when I was younger, I made 2309 02:44:39.040 --> 02:44:46.799 that connection sooner. Whereas like, oh, take this way of being when 2310 02:44:46.840 --> 02:44:50.719 you were a kid with your siblings, and then keep pushing that to its 2311 02:44:50.440 --> 02:44:54.799 natural extreme as you get older and be a performer for strangers and as a 2312 02:44:54.799 --> 02:45:01.440 stand up comedian, as or whatever. The potential for success. I don't 2313 02:45:01.600 --> 02:45:05.079 fucking know. But it's like, in terms of what I could have tried 2314 02:45:05.159 --> 02:45:11.520 to do, there's a world in which I tried to be a comedian of 2315 02:45:11.520 --> 02:45:15.000 some sort. Does that make sense? Like, I'm not saying I'm not 2316 02:45:15.040 --> 02:45:18.719 saying another world at this point I'm a successful stand up comedian. There's a 2317 02:45:18.719 --> 02:45:22.360 one in which I tried to do it and then maybe ended up doing whatever. 2318 02:45:22.399 --> 02:45:24.360 The fuck? No, you're saying you would have had a fifty million 2319 02:45:24.360 --> 02:45:28.360 dollars Netflix deal. I get it. Yeah, that's actually owned and me 2320 02:45:28.440 --> 02:45:35.159 would be hanging out right now, and you know, canceled again, Mike. 2321 02:45:35.920 --> 02:45:39.559 I'd be on Rogan every other week I canceled this, Yeah, un 2322 02:45:39.639 --> 02:45:46.760 cancelable. JJ row Row and me would be great friends. In that world. 2323 02:45:48.840 --> 02:45:52.159 I could see you trying, and I could see you being pretty good 2324 02:45:52.479 --> 02:45:56.120 at that. And if you trained from like a young age and practiced, 2325 02:45:56.239 --> 02:46:00.159 I could see you being good at that. I agree. I just talking 2326 02:46:00.159 --> 02:46:03.680 about Joe Rogan opened up another aspect of this to me. It's like, 2327 02:46:03.959 --> 02:46:07.879 in that world, what would your outlook on life and politics be? Like, 2328 02:46:09.440 --> 02:46:11.120 we don't have to talk about this. I'm just saying, like, 2329 02:46:11.959 --> 02:46:20.319 in that world, what world inside the Roro Podcast. So I think all 2330 02:46:20.399 --> 02:46:24.000 of us are answering this question and assuming and just saying we don't actually have 2331 02:46:24.040 --> 02:46:28.920 to go into this because it's dangerous, But like we're answering this as if, 2332 02:46:28.959 --> 02:46:35.360 like in this other universe, what would your career be like what would 2333 02:46:35.399 --> 02:46:37.680 you push it to? But we're not considering what it would do to our 2334 02:46:37.719 --> 02:46:41.760 personalities and beliefs and politics, which is fun because it's like, well, 2335 02:46:43.360 --> 02:46:48.399 I don't would I even like this guy who became a who tried to be 2336 02:46:48.479 --> 02:46:52.040 a stand up comedian or Mary, would you like this? Consistent to the 2337 02:46:52.079 --> 02:46:58.760 president of Sally May, I would be pro people. I would not like 2338 02:46:58.799 --> 02:47:03.959 you love they can't get out of keeping me in a job, and I 2339 02:47:05.000 --> 02:47:07.159 love when people have loans. Loans are good, and I bet you he 2340 02:47:07.280 --> 02:47:11.440 somebody feels that way. But the presents is like, listen, loans are 2341 02:47:11.520 --> 02:47:16.280 actually really good. You want to have at least a couple of loans. 2342 02:47:16.360 --> 02:47:18.920 They're good, And I'd be like, I agree, sir. So like 2343 02:47:20.200 --> 02:47:24.559 I'd probably be a big weirdo if I was writing Masturbating Bear Skeedus for Conan, 2344 02:47:24.559 --> 02:47:26.879 and I'd probably feel all right about my decisions. Yeah, like you 2345 02:47:26.920 --> 02:47:28.840 know this one in the right direction. This is good. I'm doing it. 2346 02:47:30.120 --> 02:47:33.399 Bought five thousand skeedges. That'd be good. I I don't think we 2347 02:47:33.440 --> 02:47:37.479 would all be friends. Well, no, we literally wouldn't because we wouldn't. 2348 02:47:37.680 --> 02:47:39.920 There's yeah, But then you get to the thing it's like, I 2349 02:47:39.959 --> 02:47:43.120 don't wanna. I don't want to get into this too much because then you 2350 02:47:43.159 --> 02:47:50.840 just start my point being like what a weird universe that we find ourselves in 2351 02:47:50.840 --> 02:47:56.360 in which all three of us are doing this podcast but we all have these 2352 02:47:56.360 --> 02:47:58.879 different jobs. How the do we meet? How many factors had to align 2353 02:47:58.920 --> 02:48:03.760 for this thing to happen that we're doing right now? Kansas, Ohio and 2354 02:48:03.920 --> 02:48:07.680 Syracuse got really into Rocket League and like met and then created a discord. 2355 02:48:07.799 --> 02:48:11.399 And there I were born. You were born two hours west of where I 2356 02:48:11.479 --> 02:48:16.479 was born, and yet like we didn't meet until we were in San Francisco. 2357 02:48:16.639 --> 02:48:22.120 I avoided you for years. I know I wasn't born. Somehow made 2358 02:48:22.239 --> 02:48:26.000 I got up. I did everything I could to avoid it. I got 2359 02:48:26.000 --> 02:48:31.479 youa mike. You caught up thirty forty minutes from me at one point right 2360 02:48:31.559 --> 02:48:35.600 Joplin when you were there, Yeah, I was in Joplin. I would 2361 02:48:35.639 --> 02:48:37.360 have been in Minnesota by that point though, But I you're up in Kansas 2362 02:48:37.399 --> 02:48:41.680 City. Yeah yeah, but in this world, I don't go to Minnesota, 2363 02:48:41.040 --> 02:48:43.360 so at some point you're in job. He never went to Kansasity though, 2364 02:48:43.520 --> 02:48:46.639 right. Uh. No, I've been to Kansas City a couple of 2365 02:48:46.639 --> 02:48:52.600 times. There's a movie, a rom com that's about this topic called Sliding 2366 02:48:52.639 --> 02:48:56.879 Doors, right ideas, Yeah, yeah, bunch of shit back then. 2367 02:48:56.239 --> 02:49:00.040 And if the doors slid shut, she wouldn't have met the guy. And 2368 02:49:00.120 --> 02:49:03.479 if they do, if they open and she gets in, then you know 2369 02:49:03.559 --> 02:49:05.280 she does meet the guy, and like how different their lives are. It's 2370 02:49:05.280 --> 02:49:11.120 a fascinating concept. I don't like going down that route because I feel like 2371 02:49:11.120 --> 02:49:15.120 it always ends up in like a grass's Greener type situation, where like, 2372 02:49:15.239 --> 02:49:18.559 no, no, I like my life and I'm very happy with it. 2373 02:49:20.000 --> 02:49:22.639 So most of the time when people are like, what if you were a 2374 02:49:22.639 --> 02:49:26.520 scuba diver, I'd be like, I don't fucking know. I don't know 2375 02:49:26.559 --> 02:49:30.840 who she is. She might be weird, and you know, I hate 2376 02:49:30.920 --> 02:49:33.399 dogs. I don't know. There's all sorts of stuff that could have changed 2377 02:49:33.440 --> 02:49:35.079 if I had a different path in life. I don't really know what i'd 2378 02:49:35.120 --> 02:49:41.200 be like. I don't I don't want another path. I am extremely happy. 2379 02:49:41.559 --> 02:49:45.360 Yep. I love everything that's happened to me. I'd love everything that 2380 02:49:45.399 --> 02:49:48.600 I've made happen, but especially like love you too. Hanging out here, 2381 02:49:48.680 --> 02:49:52.159 this is great. Fire Escape might not exist in any other universe. I'm 2382 02:49:52.159 --> 02:49:54.879 glad we're in this one. I wouldn't change the goddamn thing, not one 2383 02:49:54.920 --> 02:50:01.040 decision. My instinct now after saying that sentimental thing is to like tear you 2384 02:50:01.040 --> 02:50:05.719 both apart, but I'm not gonna do it. Mary, episode tearing each 2385 02:50:05.760 --> 02:50:07.200 other? Well, no, Mary, but he was nice to both of 2386 02:50:07.280 --> 02:50:11.200 us, but we weren't nice to him. Should we rectify that on the 2387 02:50:11.239 --> 02:50:13.399 back on here? I don't want that. I don't want that. I 2388 02:50:13.399 --> 02:50:16.399 don't want that. Hey, thank you so much writing fires Cap. What 2389 02:50:16.479 --> 02:50:28.799 a nice friend? Question comments concerned to hang out? We will always delightful 2390 02:50:28.799 --> 02:50:37.280 to be here every other week ship. Yeah, Will, We're always We're 2391 02:50:37.280 --> 02:50:41.799 always. His wife is smoking, she's a she's a bib. We know 2392 02:50:43.040 --> 02:50:50.639 we looking for too all the time. When you're not looking, I'm looking. 2393 02:50:52.239 --> 02:50:58.120 If you fuck up, I'll be there. I'll scoop that girl. 2394 02:50:58.239 --> 02:51:05.079 So quick, Amanda, give me a call. Fucking enjoy waiting. Speaking 2395 02:51:05.079 --> 02:51:09.079 of sliding doors. If there is a universe in which it doesn't work out, 2396 02:51:09.639 --> 02:51:13.319 him me have Amanda, I got you. I think we'd be great 2397 02:51:13.559 --> 02:51:16.120 together. I could show I don't know anything about wine, but you could 2398 02:51:16.120 --> 02:51:24.200 teach me. Girl. We Hey, Simon's if there's a world which dog 2399 02:51:24.600 --> 02:51:26.840 no, he can come. I'll be his dad. It's not it's not 2400 02:51:26.879 --> 02:51:31.319 a weird thing. Don't make it weird. Sliding dogs, Yeah, sliding 2401 02:51:31.360 --> 02:51:37.239 dogs? Oh, really, really quick before I get into the end of 2402 02:51:37.319 --> 02:51:43.520 episode. Uh Rigamarole, have either of you seen Past Lives yet? Did 2403 02:51:43.559 --> 02:51:46.120 you watch Past Lives from last year? Uh? Huh? Oh my god. 2404 02:51:46.639 --> 02:51:52.200 That's my favorite movie of twenty twenty three. Fucking devastating, but really 2405 02:51:52.239 --> 02:51:56.040 fucking good. Selene's song. She's a playwright. It was her movie directorial 2406 02:51:56.079 --> 02:52:05.040 debut, Childhood Romance from Korea. And so I've heard about this, no 2407 02:52:05.159 --> 02:52:07.159 spoilies. I really want to see it. Watch it. It's like up 2408 02:52:07.200 --> 02:52:15.600 for a lot of awards, one of the one of the like saddest movies 2409 02:52:15.639 --> 02:52:20.559 I've ever seen. However, careful, I think it was my favorite movie 2410 02:52:20.639 --> 02:52:26.520 last year. It's that time year. We're catching up on movies. We 2411 02:52:26.559 --> 02:52:31.159 talked saltburn last episode. I love Selburne. It's coming from is that Alex 2412 02:52:31.200 --> 02:52:35.639 Boniello. These are three pictures for the audio listener. Alex Bonielos sent me 2413 02:52:35.719 --> 02:52:43.559 three pictures himself watching past lives, him crying. Just here's the difference between. 2414 02:52:43.399 --> 02:52:48.879 Here's the difference between Alex Boniello and I. I may have cried harder 2415 02:52:48.920 --> 02:52:52.680 than those photos imply he cried. I'm not going to show other people. 2416 02:52:54.639 --> 02:52:58.920 I think Alex knows I find it funny, and yeah, he knows his 2417 02:52:58.959 --> 02:53:03.399 audience. Yes, he always sends me pictures of my contact photo in my 2418 02:53:03.440 --> 02:53:07.079 phone. Is him crying at like a toilet paper commercial or something? Yeah, 2419 02:53:07.479 --> 02:53:11.319 I need to text him about the movie because, oh my god, 2420 02:53:11.360 --> 02:53:13.600 would you watch it on Did you watch it on like Amazon? Did you 2421 02:53:13.639 --> 02:53:18.639 watch it on do you remember? I want to say, HBO, Max, 2422 02:53:18.799 --> 02:53:22.079 whatever you want to call it. Uh, I believe I watched on 2423 02:53:22.200 --> 02:53:26.559 Max, but it might be I might have rented it on Amazon. If 2424 02:53:26.600 --> 02:53:31.520 you need to rent it. That is one of the easiest three dollars I've 2425 02:53:31.639 --> 02:53:35.760 ever recommended in my life. If we're doing recommendations, I'm gonna throw out 2426 02:53:35.799 --> 02:53:41.520 a movie I saw that really touched me this week called The Holdovers. It's 2427 02:53:41.559 --> 02:53:43.920 also nominated for a lot of awards. Yes, we watched that last week 2428 02:53:43.920 --> 02:53:48.760 too. A lot of sleeper hit It's it's so, it's such a it's 2429 02:53:48.799 --> 02:53:58.040 such a genuinely well written and well acted simple story of kids who get stuck 2430 02:53:58.159 --> 02:54:01.040 at school during the Christmas break and so they have to stay with a teacher 2431 02:54:01.079 --> 02:54:05.319 that's like no fun? Are you like fun? And Paul Giamani kills this 2432 02:54:05.399 --> 02:54:11.000 role. But it's not. It's not a very like exciting film. There's 2433 02:54:11.040 --> 02:54:15.200 no like sex or like murder, and it's just a simple story of people 2434 02:54:15.280 --> 02:54:18.959 getting to know each other. And it hit me in my core when it 2435 02:54:20.040 --> 02:54:22.360 was done, I was like, that might that must be like the best 2436 02:54:22.360 --> 02:54:24.120 movie I've seen in a really long time. I loved it. I really 2437 02:54:24.159 --> 02:54:30.479 recommend it legitimately my second favorite movie of twenty three after Past Lives. We 2438 02:54:30.520 --> 02:54:33.760 watched The Holdovers. Yes, we watched The Holdovers. Also. Do you 2439 02:54:33.799 --> 02:54:39.120 know what other movie Alexander Payne, who directed The Holdovers has directed? It 2440 02:54:39.239 --> 02:54:43.639 was Sideways with Paul Gimonti, which is the movie about Why, same director, 2441 02:54:43.680 --> 02:54:46.920 but Sideways is really good too. And Jimmani, which he kind of 2442 02:54:46.920 --> 02:54:50.120 got famous for. I do want to just quickly say, my sister recommended 2443 02:54:50.159 --> 02:54:54.360 The Holdovers. If she ever watches this or like listens to the podcast, 2444 02:54:54.399 --> 02:54:56.879 she'll be like, I recommended that movie. My sister recommended it. She 2445 02:54:56.920 --> 02:54:58.399 was right. It's a really good film. She's right. If you're in 2446 02:54:58.440 --> 02:55:03.000 a like rush, if you're like an west Anderson like that, but like 2447 02:55:03.600 --> 02:55:09.879 better, Oh my god, The Holdovers is awesome and you're literally passized. 2448 02:55:09.920 --> 02:55:13.000 And then The Holdovers, Yeah quick one two episodes in a true detective season 2449 02:55:13.000 --> 02:55:16.959 four very good, Jody Foster kicks ass, real good. I think they 2450 02:55:18.040 --> 02:55:22.520 might be back. One was perfect television. Two was fucking weird and shitty. 2451 02:55:22.799 --> 02:55:26.799 Three was man fine. This seems it's only two episodes that have been 2452 02:55:26.799 --> 02:55:30.280 intriguing, but the big one. You can't. You can't justify that. 2453 02:55:30.399 --> 02:55:35.239 Not two episodes the right so far, very intrigued. It's fucked up and 2454 02:55:35.479 --> 02:55:39.719 cool and yeah, but I know, we talked about it briefly last week 2455 02:55:39.760 --> 02:55:43.079 before I finished it. We finished The Curse. I don't know either of 2456 02:55:43.079 --> 02:55:46.280 you have. Jake's been watching it, but I haven't. It. Okay, 2457 02:55:46.360 --> 02:55:50.159 talk to Jake about it. I'm just gonna say it is a weird 2458 02:55:50.319 --> 02:55:52.680 like I could see people bouncing off as it goes. It's a weird vibe, 2459 02:55:52.719 --> 02:56:00.520 it's a weird tone starting off. It is the craziest fucking like GiMA 2460 02:56:00.600 --> 02:56:07.000 ass ending God never I've never seen anything on television like the way this story 2461 02:56:07.040 --> 02:56:11.760 wraps up. I hesitate to say anything beyond that, but that whole way 2462 02:56:11.959 --> 02:56:16.680 wrapped up. Bonk and I were like, what the fuck is this? 2463 02:56:16.959 --> 02:56:20.920 It is the weirdest thing I've ever seen on television, and that's a good 2464 02:56:20.959 --> 02:56:26.879 thing. Fucking loved it, including Search Party season one to four. This 2465 02:56:26.920 --> 02:56:31.879 is this is one of the most fascinating things I've ever seen on television. 2466 02:56:31.079 --> 02:56:37.319 It's uh interesting. You seem so like wavery on it. Last time we 2467 02:56:37.360 --> 02:56:39.760 talked, it grew, our appreciation of it grew, for sure, and 2468 02:56:41.559 --> 02:56:43.200 by the back half of the season we're kind of like, all right, 2469 02:56:43.239 --> 02:56:46.879 these are unlikable characters, but these are this is funny, and this is 2470 02:56:46.959 --> 02:56:50.239 where the fuck is this going? Like you keep like the season's wrapping up, 2471 02:56:50.280 --> 02:56:54.879 there's only ten episodes. Where is this going? And you could have 2472 02:56:54.079 --> 02:57:00.000 a billion fucking guesses where the show goes by the end and there's no fucking 2473 02:57:00.120 --> 02:57:03.000 chance he'd be right. There is a moment where both Bank and I were 2474 02:57:03.000 --> 02:57:07.280 like, wait, what's are we looking at this right? What's happening here? 2475 02:57:07.600 --> 02:57:11.440 And then it just takes this weird fucking thing and goes so far with 2476 02:57:11.479 --> 02:57:16.959 it. I just please watch all of The Curse season one. It is 2477 02:57:16.159 --> 02:57:22.280 awesome. Now if you have the paramount plus Showtime add on thing. It's 2478 02:57:22.799 --> 02:57:24.760 annoying. We we had to subscribe for like a month and get the paramount 2479 02:57:24.760 --> 02:57:28.280 thing. But yeah, is it not on Hulu. You can pull it 2480 02:57:28.360 --> 02:57:31.159 up on Hulu, but you can't watch it unless you have the paramount showtime. 2481 02:57:31.639 --> 02:57:35.959 Oh I see us to add on? Okay, gotcha. Yeah, 2482 02:57:35.040 --> 02:57:39.079 that's that's next on the list. After like the movies. We're catching up 2483 02:57:39.120 --> 02:57:43.000 and we got to watch May December. We got to watch Iron Claw, 2484 02:57:43.799 --> 02:57:48.079 and then we like, we've heard nothing but good things about the Iron Claw 2485 02:57:48.120 --> 02:57:52.200 and like, the trailer looks great. May December. What am I missing? 2486 02:57:52.280 --> 02:57:56.200 There's one other I'm missing? But oh my god, Like, do 2487 02:57:56.200 --> 02:58:03.360 you watch Past Lives and you're you're read to like hurt The movie is awesome, 2488 02:58:05.280 --> 02:58:11.840 but yeah, that is our episode seventy three. Firescape pass at gmail 2489 02:58:11.879 --> 02:58:15.159 dot com. 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You get bonus episodes. 2499 02:58:50.000 --> 02:58:52.760 Get a Lethal Company episode. There's the Sons of the Forest episode. 2500 02:58:52.840 --> 02:58:58.440 We did a ranking of candies, did the road trip episode from Jersey to 2501 02:58:58.479 --> 02:59:03.040 Connecticut, the cheese episod in Minneapolis. Yep. We did a thing at 2502 02:59:03.040 --> 02:59:05.920 your Place mic around around our meetup time a couple of years ago. Yeah, 2503 02:59:07.319 --> 02:59:09.799 there's plenty. We're slowly amassing. We don't do it on a regular 2504 02:59:09.840 --> 02:59:13.319 schedule, but at this point, if you sign up for the video version, 2505 02:59:13.559 --> 02:59:15.600 there's there's a good amount of stuff in the last few years. You 2506 02:59:15.600 --> 02:59:20.319 can check out yes, and then you can go to firescate merch dot com 2507 02:59:20.360 --> 02:59:24.840 to get some sweatshirts, to get some mugs, to get some thermoses, 2508 02:59:24.120 --> 02:59:28.360 to get some hats, what have you. All good stuff, all very 2509 02:59:28.360 --> 02:59:31.920 well designed. I still wear some of them, like absent mindedly. I 2510 02:59:31.959 --> 02:59:35.239 still put some of them on in the mornings and I'm like, oh, 2511 02:59:35.600 --> 02:59:39.399 I'm not trying to wear Firescape stuff. It's just good stuff. Married did 2512 02:59:39.440 --> 02:59:41.239 a good job setting that all up. Dan, what do you have going 2513 02:59:41.280 --> 02:59:46.440 on these days? Giant bomb dot com. I got my Twitch dot tv, 2514 02:59:46.520 --> 02:59:50.639 slash, Dan Reichert. Not really doing any social media outside of the 2515 02:59:50.639 --> 02:59:58.159 occasional Instagram Dan record. So that's me Mary streaming Mondays on twitch at tv, 2516 02:59:58.239 --> 03:00:01.399 slash Marykish and sometimes tweet, but I think I'm also mostly on Instagram 2517 03:00:01.399 --> 03:00:07.680 now it's less sad there, it's better. I agree. I'm as of 2518 03:00:07.959 --> 03:00:13.239 January thirtieth, no longer at Polygon. That's my last day of Polygon. 2519 03:00:13.040 --> 03:00:16.920 Yeah, so I'd say, like i'd normally direct you to Polygon. It's 2520 03:00:16.920 --> 03:00:20.399 my only other thing forward facing thing. But after that, no, like 2521 03:00:20.440 --> 03:00:26.040 my my last forward facing thing for a while will be fire skate. I 2522 03:00:26.159 --> 03:00:30.120 feel good, Yeah, I feel good. You did the You were the 2523 03:00:30.120 --> 03:00:33.840 guy on the Unraveled videos, right, yeah, I'm Brian David Gilbert. 2524 03:00:35.040 --> 03:00:37.799 That's you. Yeah, okay, okay, right right, okay. I 2525 03:00:37.239 --> 03:00:41.920 tried all the Zelda I made Zelda foods and then I saw that. Okay, 2526 03:00:41.920 --> 03:00:48.879 cool, cool red Skyrim books. I made some yarn I did the 2527 03:00:48.920 --> 03:00:54.360 mind place thing on or something. Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's our 2528 03:00:54.360 --> 03:01:01.079 Michy. Yep, that's Hike replaceable. I look forward to seeing what fully 2529 03:01:01.159 --> 03:01:05.280 untethered to games media Mike Maherty is like on this podcast or it's his one 2530 03:01:05.319 --> 03:01:11.879 outlet to say games plays, I can invent about it. Yeah, yeah, 2531 03:01:11.959 --> 03:01:13.799 I look forward to that. To be professional, this is but this 2532 03:01:13.959 --> 03:01:18.959 is my Like, this is my You're not going to be seeing my work 2533 03:01:20.000 --> 03:01:24.600 at the next work next place, which is by design on my part and 2534 03:01:24.719 --> 03:01:28.840 other people's parts. But like this is where you'll be hearing my opinions and 2535 03:01:28.639 --> 03:01:35.440 uh seeing potentially how I play new games. But it'll be fun. We'll 2536 03:01:35.440 --> 03:01:41.159 be here as everything. Bye, No, I don't say bye yet. 2537 03:01:41.200 --> 03:01:46.360 I'm not done. You're done. I've got smart things to say. Don't 2538 03:01:46.440 --> 03:01:48.319 rush me. Hit us. No, just kidding. We'll see you. 2539 03:01:48.639 --> 03:02:18.360 We'll see you next episode.