Tonight's guest is Simon Simon. Welcome to the show. Thank you well,
you're welcome. Thanks for coming on. Simon, Please give us a brief
bio on yourself. I'm thirty eight years old, I work full time.
I'm a chef. I'm mentor nature. I like wandering now in my spare
time, finding new places to go. And I guess that's me. You
said that you're into nature. What kinds of things do you like to do
when the woods are outdoors? I love them feeding birds. I want to
see birds. I mean, like different seeds for different birds. If you
want to track sparrows, bluetics, stylings, you'll put these fat bowls into
a containers all species. If you want to tract finches like goldfinches, greenfinches
and little birds, you get something called dig your seeds and it's a smaller
seed, which because it's containers, you'll get different looking colored birds. If
you want to feed scrolls and you want to feed magpies and jackdaws and the
common crow that comes across, then you'll get some monkey nuts that love them,
that absolutely go wild for them. Also, this one time, I
cannot believe it in my eyes, like mother nature. I was to climb
for the tree and put some nuts inside of container scrorells, and we used
to get like these jaybirds coming, which looks like a magpie, but it's
got that blue and green and yellow feathers to the top. And that used
to come and he used to absolutely love seeing it. But because I put
the nuts so far up to the tree. One day, the screeching and
crying and screeching, and looks outside and a parakeet, a green one that
had escaped from somebody's house. And I don't know what to do, so
a part and social media and the video that I've seen the screen parakeet and
the replies saying, yet it's mine. So I'm thinking, okay, so
what would you like me to do? And they said, oh, nothing,
just keep feeding look after it. We've chased it down the street before
with blankets. We've called it by its name? Is it very stubbornly goes
by the name of bow, and I couns don't believe it. And it
kept coming a screaking outside and has a go up tree, climb up and
give it all these monk and ups. But then obviously it's up coming,
so I don't know whether it flew off to the other end when it keeps
warm, but yeah, and it never comes back apparently. But yeah,
I love nature of all the birds you expected to see that day, I'm
sure it wasn't a pera key. That had to be a pretty big surprise,
very very Since you had your dog men experiences that we're going to talk
about tonight, you've put a lot of research into them, Simon, what
would you point to when it comes to dog mean that you find hardest to
understand well at first, when you're yeah that experiences people's ads and your mind
cut up them to what actually hearing and seeing. There's a saying that seeing
is believing, but when you experience it, it's different. I mean it's
like you can sit down and watch television with all these hordest stories and fins
and it's just fiction. You're just looking at the screen, but touchually try
to believe that this is for real, and so you see you don't believe
it, and you sort of listening to what people say and think yet,
but then as you keep listening, like I kept listening to your show up
and I thought, well, all these people can't be drown I guess that's
how memophilia. You're right, all these people can't be wrong, and that's
because these guys are definitely out there is you unfortunately saw with your own eyes.
It's easy to think that after having as traumatic of an encounter as the
second one you had, was the last thing you'd want to do is listen
to shows about dog men and research them. Why do you do those things?
I didn't do those fins. My first experience was twelve years ago.
But it comes to my attention when my sister she listens to your show.
And I lived with my sister because I have recently being separated from my partner,
and I've never even heard of dog man I've never even heard of dog
man encounters. But at that time your show was playing VIC and she played
it in the night. She played it quite loud and buying me listen to
this. I'll start of listening to it at the same time going to sleep
on the sofa, And when I would listen to it, I can't listen
to it because I'd wake up half awake, half asleep and sat listening to
the show. And I was listening it got more and more interesting, and
I listened and listened to it. Yeah, but I thought, well,
I did have the experience. And the more listened and the more it's the
more I realized that I wasn't alone, the more I realized that I did
have this encounter, and the more it was a doctman. And I believe
this, but at the time, it was who would listen to me?
Misery does love company? And yeah, if it brings you comfort by listening
to the show and listening to the other eyewitnesses cheer their experiences, which that
makes total sense that you would, then that's a good thing. Anything that's
going to bring you comfort and help you deal with your encounters, I think
you should do it. If you would have known about dog Man before you
had your encounters, would you believe that they could be there in the UK
scratching out a living, even though the UK obviously isn't nearly as big as
the United States, for example. No, I find that I to believe,
I do believe that things are out there, but to believe that that
that quantity and now that it's not this way experience in one area, but
to actually, no, that's all over the place. It's kind of different.
I the skeptical like I say, oh right, but to actually experience
if you don't know, you know, it's like people they don't believe in
aliens, and then when they encounter something encountering experience, they actually believe and
they try to tell people I saw this, I saw this as all this,
as all this, and nobody believes them. But then only that one
person sees it and sees it for themselves, then this is a different story.
Then the same boats shouts and out, oh come on, believe me,
believe me, I saw it. So yeah, I guess that's that
a lot of people from the UK who are into the whole dogma and phenomenon,
they don't believe the dogma and could be living there in the UK either.
So if you would have felt that way free, had that experience of
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dot com forward slash podcast. All right, Simon, please tell us about
your encounters. Now, give us every last detail that comes to mind.
Okay, My first encounter was about twelve years ago, I was about twenty
six at the time of the now that's twenty seven, and they got me
first mortgage from my first house, which was at Top, and I was
looking forward to celebrate moving to my new property. So I'm at up with
me uncle, and we went to the plass called Puss Show Commenced Club,
which is just like down the road. He himself sat on his own and
I sat next to him. But it's awesome, so it doesn't interact well
with people. It ain't got a bad bone in his body, is totally
armless, but it didn't like talking to people who like setting his own in
the corner. So I think he he had two years a pattern half.
I haven't had about three. And they went something to eat through the takeaway
at the top. Now that was on Beacon Road, which is further up.
So as going up being him, I want to go over what Oh?
No, to go straight up? Straight up? Oh? So I
was just I felt like better. I needed the wee wee. And when
I went sort of in the bush at the side, I have sort of
noises crunching. When I say crunching, I don't mean like crunching off tea
for crunching on something that is edible. I mean like crunching, like stomping
through a holly bushes, which are quite pecular. It's like rustling bushes,
but stomping. And I just carried on as you do, and they are
this tremendous, horrifying growl. It was a noise that I've never ever,
ever ever experienced. It was a noise that I've never ever heard before in
my life. It was the most unexplainable noise. It was awful, so
shocking, and I sort of shoved a bit like, oh, sort of
turned by it. Oh, I don't know, but forward and set of
walking up the road with my uncle. And I could hear panting, I
could hear footsteps, I could hear it was just terrifying, and walking I
could hear but went and drowned. There was nothing there. There was absolutely
nothing there at all. But when I kept walking, I could hear the
panting, I could hear the noise, I could hear everything. And I
felt like running and asking him and saying, come on, let's run.
But then I understood that if you run and they will chase you, to
the point that when we got to the edge of the park, whips the
park as it slowed down, and I turned around to talk to him in
the back the shimmy of the light, the light was shining and I saw
a reflection of two eyes. It was absolutely and I knew to cut him
down. We just kept walking and he were trying to make out that he
didn't like to believe things. He didn't like it, and he knew that.
I was worried at the time. But yeah, we never got to
take away and made sure he come back and straight on Beacon Road, straight
to the top of senty Knox to the new Flat twenty six senty Knox Road.
But he never stayed. And normally he always walks home, but that
night he got a taxi home to the stay. Has never been right.
But yeah, that was him and a bit more than happy to come forward
and tell you how scared he actually they felt. He knows what they say
and he knows what so, and he knows exactly what was experienced. And
to me, that was like years ago. And thinking about that, you
think, who's going to believe it? You know, you think it could
be what a wild dog, it could have been anything. Who's going to
believe you? What are you going to do you're dog pounds, but I
put that dog pounds round here. It's as a place and they're like dug
people in but when they're going to do we'll go around the park looking for
this creature or animal or beast. No, there doesn't work like that around
here. So it's one of those where it captures your mind and you always
know what you saw. You will never ever ever forget what you saw as
you treat your mind like a computer basically, And this is what I do.
I try keep all the good things and filter out the bad things.
But some bad things you can't filter out. Because if you've got a computer
full of spam, I'm full of things that could get up cookies and all
this business. I don't really understand them. It's going to slow down your
computer into it to look up with the U member and you know, you
try to keep with the good memories and filter out of the bad. But
in this experience, I couldn't. No, I couldn't, and it stuck
with me for a while and it kind of made me feel so I tell
somebody, well no, because nobody's going to believe me, and it kind
of went from there. So yeah, that's my first experience. So this
was New Year's there, so I want to see my friends running. She
lived at the other side of the woods to a select area. Very a
lot of people call it a ten Bob mullionaire area, which means a lot
of people that live there. They think the billionaires. It's a very like
stumpy area, but it leads the other side of the woods and they've got
all this big woods at the back and everything on the wuldn't really so I
getting back it. So I'm like, yes, I'm going to see my
friend, and so I go there see you, you know, spend a
bit of time to give a bit. But as the next we're going on,
it got dark really early. It was probably dark by m probably about
three four o'clock. It got dark very early, so maybe me talking away
unless the time probably know it. There were neighbors there with this little dog
and she've been vedant dog, and neighbors apparently moved out and they've left the
dog. But say it were a little octretarial, Well I had to say.
The word was absolutely beautiful thing, lovely round airs lies, but he
needed brush in it were a bit knotted and I'm gonna take it back was
gone to as an empty say take it back to brush it and look after
it, and sought it all out. So she had an Alsatian dog and
she had another dog, so she left me at the lead. So the
shortest shrew was to go straight back from Norwood Green, which is on Satition
Road. The shortest way back was to cut through Judy Woods, which leads
toward side. So I decided, right, okay, I'm going through that
woods. So on, and everything was fine, absolutely fine, walking through
doglantly, thinking oh yeah, you know, I got a little companion.
Now I get to the back end, probably about over half away three quarters
and dogs starts asked differently, it's it's stopped, and I was like what
what what? And it was just walking perfectly start with. But then when
it stopped, it was like I walked forward sort of jolted a bit like
a seatbelt of some arm because I'm like, like what, And I could
see as standing up on a dog and acting out of character. It was
like telling me not to go forward. It was sort of weird, as
the dog was walking perfectly fine before, so suddenly why But it was silent.
You couldn't hear I heard birds, playing off. But you couldn't hear
any birds around, You couldn't hear everything was that kind of like oh,
strange, peaceful silence, which I've never ever experienced in my life. Imagined
like the old life stops, and when the old life stops, she's just
left of your own devices. And there was nothing nothing, no sounds,
no crickets chirping, no nothing, just a total sounds like everything's like disappeared.
But yeah, okay, then quanquan. So I waked forward and and
what foward was like some tall like grass and grass so I don't know what
you call them, but like big one graspings. And I stepped forward and
I slipped and I let go lead. I went straight down. It's like
oh, a banking, as you want to call it. I went down
a band. I hurt all the ankle. I'm like putting it on,
looking up, and I saw like the blood running down back on my leg.
And when it was running down the back on my leg and fell out
the pain and so I went in in pockets at the phone, look back,
and I had on torturing. I walk at the dogs. So when
I looked up, it was halfway up the hill that I slipped down the
banking. It come out in the pocket, didn't it bumming it. But
as it was going I could see sort of see like the shine, but
I couldn't see image. But I will lay down, Oh I'm wet,
back up and I didn't think but hers and I saw this reflection and it
was very strange, unbelievable on site, which you never believe. And as
you know, like can magnify things and and do things. But I had
splosh, blush blush. Something was walking towards me. But then as I
could see, I could see that the shadow and the ship of the image,
it was like a balloon like whether we've got longth or random as you
call it whatever. But the monkey family were the ones that's got the long
arms and got the back that goes down like must the back and goes up
just like that, and walking the wards and then coming forwards. But it
was cold, very very cold, and I thought or games over field side,
games overside, you know, and this monstrous this I don't know what
it was, both monstrous bare, I don't know. This was just like
wow, and I know you got close, it got very close, very
very close to me. And I remember it was so cold as it sniffed
and snorted like a like a really black a wet nose, like a wet
nose going. But listening to the show previous, I know that it definitely
has got to have been a dog man because for the simple reason this is
the worst part, this is the part that make hurts me that as it
was going and going close to me, very very close, and my app
was racing, it was pulping. It was proper, proper, proper racing
so much that I couldn't I couldn't really breathe, and it was I refine
to see something that you think is fictional, and at the time you don't
think that way. At the time, you think, on my days,
this is my time, I'm gone. But then it got bad. The
dogs started yelping back in as it turns, it says, it leaps up
the ill and got up, oh within about two seconds strip and it was
quite steep, and unfortunately I never saw that dog again, which is very
hurtful. But as it got up in the swampy horrible step bench um,
I turned around and I tried to climb back up the hill. But we've
been slipping down, slipping down, and so I found some like, well,
no, I didn't find someone just growing reads or weeds out of the
thing. So so I'll grab them and I pulled myself back up and I
got myself back home. And after that it really affected me in a big
way that I want to talk to people. For a good ten days I
won't. I was like in shock, like, what the heck has just
did? I see what the heck has just happened? What has happened to
me? That made me really really down. I'm really shocked. But I
come back around and I'm okay now. But having since to Dougman encounters,
which like I said earlier, it's men, we realized that to come forward
because at the time you think, yes, okay, I'm going to come
forward, I'm going to tell people the story. But I was going to
believe you over here and you okay, you're underpinning the house. If you
said I've seen a dog man where wolf, they say, okay, since
you're the next psychiatrist. So somethings you keep secret, and something you don't
tell anyone, like to the stay thing, to the reality that I experience
that, and but you don't tell anyone because you knew if you tell people
that they wouldn't believe you, they wouldn't believe you. I would look it
and say, oh yeah, yeah, talk to the next person and say
I think that I'm worried about the fit the same wolves something, So you've
got to keep it yourself. But then after listening experience, like I said
Sister Plason a night, I was sort other people saying this and I thought,
well, I'm not the only one. I'm not the only one that's
had this encounter. I'm not the only one that's out of this experience.
And it made me come forward to contact you, Vic and at the same
time put my experience out there with the other people that have shared similar experiences,
because every experience helps. If you are genuine and it has happened to
you and that you can forward, then it really helps you. It settles
your mind knowing that you're not the only one that's seen and experience these Maybe
I don't know how to explain monsters, wolves, Well, I don't know,
but I think these are creatures that like to scare. I think they
get adrenaline and on your fear. But I think they're intelligent, just like
those they know not to hurt a human being. I think obviously these areas
like where the year will go, or or cow or different animals. Yes,
I agree, wouldn't you as you were starving? But I think these
the animals to those a'mless the human race. That's what I think. But
the time when you encounter them, you feel okay, game over, You're
like, God, I'm sorry, we've heard anything wrong. This is my
time. But then Belivia, but the scay in that way, but it's
like the thrive when your fear, and I think that's what these criptures do,
the thrive when you fear. Example, if these creatures one of us
are called one of us, it'll be all of it news wanted to be.
This person's being attacked by a wolf, and this a bit hunted down
all these creatures and the bit tracked down. But by looking this an intelligence,
there isn't that deer, and there's animals and it's all right, it
must be a local fox, or it must be a local chaote. Oh,
it must be a local this. But no, but these creatures are
very intelligent. But it's only by speaking to Vic on this conversation that explained
that the seven words, the seven was that meaning they never hurt you,
you know, but they could have done. That's what basically meant and that
sort of helped me and it helps me on my way with my anxiety and
else get closure that this did happen and I wasn't imagine things and now I'm
moving on the next track. That's right, you weren't imagining what happened,
and I'm to hear that you're moving on. When you and your uncle heard
that growl, what did you think it was? Well, at the time,
when you hear this, you think, first of all, you think
your mind goes in like if you hear a cat me I win, a
hear dug back, you recognize the sound. You recognize it. If you
hear a crowl going or a normal sparrow or a blue to you recognize the
sound. But when you don't recognize the sound, your brain sort of goes
into a different mode, where whatever is that? And that's when your sense
a fear because you're hearing noise that you do not you've never come across.
So it's kind of your brain goes in gear like what's that? So you're
sort of going planet mode, and that's what happens yeah. Yeah, when
you have experiences like that, your brain pretty much runs out of your ears,
and yeah, you just lose your ability to rationalize through things. But
considering, especially talking about that second encounter you had, how traumatic your experiences
were, I think you deserve a lot of credit. I think he handled
those very well. Did it sound like that growl was directed you were?
Did it sound like it was directed in a different direction from you? I'm
not sure. How, Like I said, I never heard that kind of
noise before, and it's upset me into panic. But at the same time,
why did it here the footsteps? Why did it here the noise and
well directed to me? I'm not sure, but it was it was.
It was really really scary. And I'm not scared of many things, honestly.
I used have snakes, and he used to have middlettle reptails, and
I used to do various fins. You know, I've gotten fields with cows
and feeding when they'll stampede and awards you because you're putting handle and then then
they'll stop. I'm not scared of nature many things, but when you experience
and you hear something quite like I did, it's kind of disturbing, really
really disturbing. Oh, definitely, it is. When you heard those footsteps
after hearing that roar, did it sound like they were coming towards you,
Yes, because it wasn't just you heard the footsteps. But at the same
time I know it was coming towards me because I heard the breathing and there
was nothing there, but you'd hear the breathing behind you, and like the
starting but then we're turning up, there's nothing there, but you'd hear something
walking heavy towards you. It was. It was awful, awful, But
then obviously when I think what it was doing, I'm not sure, but
then a logical explanations. It was shimmering from tree to tree, or jumping
from tree to tree, or maybe it was eye up I don't know.
But how I could hear that just like it was, it was like it
was just behind back of me here I could noise and but it's nothing,
nothing, nothing at all, And that was you know, I went until
like I said, when I walked towards coming out at the back of the
street, lay and I saw the reflection of the eyes. Speaking of the
eyes that you saw reflecting, what color was the eyes shining? How high
off the ground. Were those eyes when they say eyes, yes, there
was eyes. When you say color, I cannot tell you what color because
obviously all you're seeing it's like imagine in the motorway. And then when you
like to going down you see as cats. It were like as a sweep.
So I don't know, I don't know if there was. It's very
Alana was a sort of reflection, but quite so. Yes, yes,
I had to say, because I was on the il going hope out of
the pack and as going down the elb the tree that I saw with a
light under reflection, it was to say, very very so, very so.
Yeah. You can't be faulted for not knowing exactly what color those eyes
were and exactly how high they were off the ground. You were so rattled
and had so many thoughts going on in your head. Pretty much anyone would
be shaken to the point where they'd be doing good to know their own name.
So I totally understand you said that your uncle hasn't been right since the
two of you had that experience at night. To what extent though where it
were is it's got a couple of cuts. So if they sat out him
of character, his bands or hears in it, noise or anything that might
upset him. He don't like going out anymore because he win denial. That
is sorry, and it would just scared so for him to say that was
quite as big as he would never say that never. But yeah, it's
really affected him, really affected him that even when it's like dark Knights or
anything that I have to God, it was shopping for him at the supermarket.
If it comes across people with like big dogs like Alsatians or German shepherds
or anything big, it shimmers away and it's like shaking. It just doesn't
like anything is when it comes to TV and it's his advertisements, and no,
he can't handle it anymore. He really affected him, even though that
night he acted the way he did and acted like nothing was bothering him inside,
it was colin him, you know. So yeah, wow, I'm
really sorry to hear it affected him like that. I hope in time he
learns to deal with it. But sounds like he has some work to do.
And if he's ever up for a good conversation with me, please let
him know I'd be more than happy to try to help. Oh yes,
I'm sure that if I spake to him and tell him obviously something that I've
spoke, you know, we've had the interview, and to come forward and
you might help him with how it affected him. Then Yeah, and it'd
also big up because it counted what I'm saying, So it would be like
a double story. So what experience, what experience? And yeah, that
would be very interesting. Yeah, please do let him know because, like
I said, I'd love to be able to help. How big was that
woods you're cutting through where you had that second encounter Simon? And were there
any streams or creeks running through it? Oh? Quite long words, look
o for quite a few miles on. It leads out all way from probably
test goes an Malifax road. It leads all the way right up to near
Halifax, and it leads to a place in Station Roads, like I said,
with the second accounter with Runney, but then it goes all way on.
So the delemma of the woods, it's probably I don't know, maybe
eight miles in total in the square figure. There's very very big woods.
The streams that run down it, there's history in these woods, there's pegs
and all sorts of things happening. It's quite quite a long woods, you
know. But it depends on which way you cut through it, because the
way I cut through it goes from Norwad's Greenland Station Road and it goes through
to the woodside, which isn't quite a long walk. But it depends on
which Delema, you're going, Wow, that is a big woods. When
you heard those footsteps splashing towards you did your thought instantly go back to the
night when you and her uncle heard that roar. It didn't cross some minds
because at the first I'll think of it as a pain, the pain of
my uncle. Um. But then I just as I slipped down and as
like being shocked. You know, you're blah blah down like a rarely muddy
slide deal, and then you then out in the first minute, she's a
pain. So I'm looking thinking I've brought my uncle and I'm sort of feeling
around. So it wasn't, um, I'm sitting down ill, is there
something unnatural waiting for me? No, that wasn't the first. In short,
fat, it was when I sat feeling and I realized that something was
happening that kind of hit me. Oh no, I understand. I'm sure
you had so many things going through your mind at the time. Then you
were having a hard time knowing which way was up, So I get it.
You described his head as looking similar to a bad boons. What kind
of leg structure did it though? When this is the heads similar to a
ba bons? I mean like the arms you're like where you get around the
hands or I'm not sure which one, but the ones that I've got the
rale on hams and like the legs but rail on hams, like and the
back goes down like a really tourned back and the bumb goes up and like
that's torn legs. Yeah, they did have leg structures like a human or
an aport. Did they have leg structure like a dog or a horse or
a cat similar to us and a dog, I'd say, I'd like the
muscle of an ass, but the thin leg of a dog. I see.
So instead of having ankles and knees, it had hawks and stifled joints,
just like a horse or a dog would have. Yeah, so i'd
like the thigh of the horse. But then as it went backwards, it
was just like, yeah, like a dog where it bent still at the
bend so it could at yourself to stand so I see, so it was
a kenine type dog. And then you shut down for a period after you
had that experience. You said that you're fine now, but it sounds to
me like you're still at least partially compromised from it. Is that an accurate
assessment, of course, to be not alone, but to be in a
society. Imagine if you were to go to somebody and the neighbors, how
are you today, Simon, and you'll say, oh, last night,
I'm sure so this werewolf, that creature that did this, that other The
first spin i'd think, or the first bin there would actually say is huh,
you need to see a doctor. Even if they do not say it,
they still think it because don't believe it. But if they're been through
it and their doctor my done, say h Simon, you're right, Oh
so well, I think she's see a doctor. There's no such thing,
no su visions with vampires, there's no other things, were wolves, there's
noose the things, all these fictional creatures. But then seat yourself see it.
First, stand and say to somebody I've seen that. They won't believe,
so why would you come forward and tell people? But you do,
And that's what makes things worse because you hold it inside, and when you
hold it inside, you're hurting yourself. But no one has to believe you.
But when you hear other people that's been for the same encounters, the
same terrifying events, then you open up. And by me doing this,
its helps me. It helps me relax because I know that I'm not alone.
I know it wasn't my mental health. I know it wasn't being raiser.
I know there's other people that has experienced what I experienced so much so
at the time I went on anti the presence because I was closing down,
not telling people because I was going to believe that I saw what I actually
saw. So, yeah, it affects me in ways where I wouldn't go
in woods. I'd always go the long way around. Whenever I had a
noise or even a common crow a top of bagain, it had met me
jump. Yeah, it has affected me, yes, But speaking like I
said my conversation with Vic, it's true that these animals, these whatever words
you want to describe them as, I've never ever hurt anyone because if they
did, we won't all be here to tell a story. So these thrive
un scaring you and these are very clever creatures that know that if you come
forwards that I'm from and tell the story, that was good to believe you.
So yeah, so it's very good that that's what's happened. And I
heard it and I thought, you know what I'm going to sell? And
this has got really lifted off my chest because and now I'm not alone and
another everyone that's listening was listening, we'll understand exactly. I'm so glad you
do know that fact that so many people here listening to you talk about these
experiences, they do understand what you've gone through. They didn't experience your encounters,
but they're sympathetic and they know you're not full of it. So I'm
glad that helps. Talking about that, though, has it been almost as
difficult for you to deal with the responses you've gotten from family and friends when
you've tried to share your experiences with them as it's been dealing with your encounters.
From listening to what you said about sharing your experiences with other people,
it sounds like they just might be the keys. No. When I said
to shame experiences, I mean I want to share experience. By what I've
told you, I wanted to experience to help all those other people that's experienced
the same, to show that we're not meant to win up crazy. We're
not in alone. Have been, we have experiences, and we did see
this. When I say other people, I don't mean family and friends have
told I mean the people that I'm hopping you know, to help, Like
thissappointing for you show ant. You tell your experience. You do, you
tell the truth, and it helps others understand and experience and realize why a
lot of people think I don't see this, and you mind blanks it.
And when you mind blanks it, you think and all it is is like
example, if you saw a ghost and you throw a cover of yourself,
like people think the present tablates, it's putting a blanket over here. But
the ghosts will never go away until you set the cover off and face the
ghost face on and say listen, I've had enough. Then you'll never move
forward. So I've took that first step to move forwards and contact you,
and that's how it went. Well. It goes without saying I'm so glad
you did contact me. What's about time for us to get out of your
assignment. But before we do, do you have any closing comments you'd like
to share? Yeah, this was tefing experience. These animals, creatures,
beasts or whatever you would like to call them. I don't believe that out
to hurt you, and why is all of these people won't be able to
tell the tale. But I believe they're very highly intelligent. I think they
get pleasure out of fear, so when they know you're scared, they'll play
on it. There's like a nart a dog. I also believe that they've
been here for a lot of years after experience him, but experienced, I
believe they should be left alone. And I believe that talking to Vic has
helped me with my anxiety and to experience and talk to all those other people
that's been through the same experiences and terrifying experiences that I was one of.
Thank you all for coming forward because by you alcoming forward as Reel helps me.
On that note, Thank you, I'm so glad you realize that you're
amongst friends here in you're not going to be judged negatively, so that's a
great thing. But having said that, Simon, I want to thank you
so much for coming on and sharing the details of those experiences with US,
I really appreciate it. Thank you, You're welcome. Thanks again so much,
have a great night.