WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.680 --> 00:00:05.559 Hey listened coming a Cookout Podcast, episode four twenty six on brand O. 2 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:08.640 I'm here with Ryan at Ever're gonna talk a little shop for you now in 3 00:00:08.800 --> 00:00:21.760 our theme song, Hey Ryan, We're back for yet another whirlwind adventure. 4 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:25.879 How you doing good? What is going down? Whole bunch is going down? 5 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:30.559 We are back immediately following the recording we just made that our good friends 6 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:34.119 heard yesterday. Yep, we have some stories to tell. Yup, some 7 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:38.520 people to thank. What we like to think is a fairly interesting topic to 8 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:41.479 delve into. I think so. But as always, before we get to 9 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:44.280 any of that, we have to thank our official business daddies, Fusion Gaming 10 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:48.520 Online dot com. They are your source for all your gaming needs and Pile 11 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:52.240 the Bones Brewing Coal. They are the official beer sponsors for c CEO Sidewalk 12 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:56.880 Slam Season two. Episode three available right now on YouTube, where you should 13 00:00:56.960 --> 00:01:02.600 be watching episode four soon as you listen to this if it's on time. 14 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:04.959 If you listen to this in the future, four, five six are out. 15 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:08.519 Listen watch those two. They're super funny. Four was the best one 16 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:11.920 though. Oh yeah, big thanks to Pile of Bones for sponsoring Sidewalk Slam 17 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:17.719 season two. Man I can't wait. I've got the footage pulled up. 18 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:19.400 I'm ready to go through it, ready to cut it down, distill it 19 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:26.040 down to its most entertaining, funniest form. The end of that game, 20 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:30.920 all I hope is is every everything that happened, it all gets captured on 21 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:34.920 all of the microphones. I hope that the energy that was in the room, 22 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:38.319 just like there was some laughing, because it was very, very good. 23 00:01:38.359 --> 00:01:41.879 You know, I've never I wish we hadn't hyped it up so much 24 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:46.920 because I would almost want to record more games and have that one be the 25 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:52.519 last one of this dang run of game because it's the It's the perfect ending 26 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:56.560 to any game, in my opinion, I think I think it's one of 27 00:01:56.560 --> 00:02:00.000 the funniest things that's ever happened. And it's a situation that I'll bet you 28 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:07.879 every table of longtime Magic players has joked about ad nauseum for years. Yeah, 29 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:12.800 and it finally happened and so good. So uh big thanks to Pylo 30 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:17.159 Bones, big thanks to Fusion Gaming Online dot Com. Remember CEO Summer promo 31 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:20.879 codes changing. You can still use it right now if you want to get 32 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:24.400 a discount, but in the future when April rolls in and it's the actual 33 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:30.400 spring leading into actual summer. It's going to be CEO. Save the promo 34 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:35.120 code tells you exactly what's gonna happen when you when you use it. Yes, 35 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:38.080 that's a good idea. It's a good idea. Good idea. So 36 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:39.520 if you want to build three dog from yesterday, if you want to pick 37 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:44.400 up any of the cards that we talk about today, we h We've got 38 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:50.560 some questions and some thoughts and just some real natural kind of conversation to get 39 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:55.479 through today because we haven't really talked about each other's decks and talk shop like 40 00:02:55.599 --> 00:03:00.000 magic over beers in quite a long time. I was sick for a little 41 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:02.240 while my kids had hockey all winter, so I missed a bunch of like 42 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:07.400 ed h and ms throughout the winter. But all of that's over and I'm 43 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:13.560 kicking off my spring of magic right now. Ooh yeah, that's pretty good. 44 00:03:13.599 --> 00:03:15.479 And it's like the short day of spring. 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That's my new 71 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:17.839 show with Mac or our new show with Mac and the final one Jesus Gemstone 72 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:20.839 Mine with John. If you want to actually learn about magic. Yeah, 73 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:24.680 oh man, I'm out of breath. Yeah lots. How's my neck? 74 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:28.360 Is it swollen? It's red? You look purple on the camera. I 75 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:30.000 don't know if somebody's used to clean that up in post, but probably not. 76 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:33.199 You look I'm just purple now. You look very purple. A purple 77 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:38.000 shirt too, so that probably helps my purpleness, I mean me, and 78 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:40.959 you look. The glow off of your screen has like blue light in it. 79 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:44.480 I got scry fall home screen open. So everything's purple up in this 80 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:47.000 bitch, yeah except me. Yeah, I look relatively healthy. And I've 81 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:51.079 got my hat on backwards so that you can't see it, so you can't 82 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:57.519 see your unkempt frickin' everybody knows why Brando wears a hat on the show. 83 00:05:57.839 --> 00:06:00.439 Oh yeah, yeah. And if you don't know, literally go back through 84 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:03.519 time and listen to every Commander Cookout until you hear the answer. There is 85 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:08.519 a reason. It's a very good reason. Yeah, Okay, hang on, 86 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:16.040 okay, okay, I have a crisis of magic thing. I'm having 87 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:20.040 a an identity crisis. If you will, let me hit you with this, 88 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:25.399 hit me one of the more famous Commander Cookout lists. If I do 89 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:28.920 say so myself, nor on the wary, Yes, I agree. My 90 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:30.920 deck that I've I build, I love, I play all the time, 91 00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:38.639 and the project that I've had project make it look as little like a magic 92 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:42.480 deck as I can. And that's secret layers things that don't look like magic 93 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:46.279 cards. I probably got a couple altars in there, like just kooky stuff 94 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:48.600 that like you got the weird blood moon that doesn't even like it looks like 95 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:53.720 a tarot card all sorts of weird shit. Yeah, and I love it 96 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:56.639 and it's a great conversation piece and like people like to look through it, 97 00:06:56.720 --> 00:07:03.399 and yeah like that. I've noticed that now that every set has just like 98 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:13.439 different wanted posters, invisible ink and dossier cards and constellation shit, oil skin 99 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:18.560 glass, all this stuff. I have a couple other decks now that look 100 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:25.079 way less like magic decks than Nor in the Wary does. Yeah, maybe 101 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:27.279 maybe I'll get a link to it. We can put it in the description 102 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:32.360 below. My ratidrabbic only legendary or Zov decks, and all the legends have 103 00:07:32.439 --> 00:07:36.160 their own treatment. Legends have their own treatments from their own sets. Looking 104 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:41.759 at that is insane. That deck is insane to look at, and it's 105 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:46.360 done all the things that Noorn is trying to do, but like easier. 106 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:49.040 And so I feel like my Nor on the Wary deck, while my favorite 107 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:54.279 deck of all time that will never change, has sort of lost something that 108 00:07:54.279 --> 00:08:00.319 that makes it special and unique and different than all the other decks that are 109 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:05.639 out there, because now I personally have I'm gonna say, three decks that 110 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:09.560 are doing that, where I have three decks that just don't look like magic 111 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:15.519 decks. Watch CEO Sidewalk Slam episode three where I play my Attracts a deck. 112 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:18.040 It doesn't look much like a magic deck anymore either. Yeah, you've 113 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:24.480 got like retro frames and oil slicks and step in complete foils I'm trying to 114 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:28.680 think of. There's like the full arts. There's those ones that are like 115 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:35.759 the white the they have white sides and a colored stripe up the middle, 116 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:39.039 like the concept concept prayers. Yep, Like there's those are cool. I 117 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:43.639 like those. They all just look different. They're doing what Norn does. 118 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:46.919 But I don't want to say better, but easier because it's easier to pick 119 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:52.720 a legend that has a showcase frame. Then, like, because norn' is 120 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:56.320 at this point is doing a pretty specific thing. So you got to find 121 00:08:56.399 --> 00:09:00.000 the card that's going to fit in there better than a card that's already there. 122 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:03.679 Yes, it also has a ridiculous art. Yes, hard to do. 123 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:07.279 So what's the question that's French for question, what do I do? 124 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:16.320 Do I just accept that Noorin physically isn't as unique as it once was, 125 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:22.080 or do I do something to I don't want to say force it, that's 126 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:24.759 the wrong word, but to give it a little jump start, give it 127 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:28.159 a little kick in the butt, a little kick in the touche to make 128 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:31.720 it go go a little more better, play cartouche of zeal. You can't. 129 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:35.279 It looks too much like a magic card. Okay, I think, 130 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:39.000 what do you do? What do you do there? Like many things on 131 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:41.720 Commander Cookod, I say, okay, two things, Okay, things here, 132 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:48.480 two things. Because other decks have the ability to do that thing. 133 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:50.480 Let's call it a gimmick to do that gimmick because you like that word. 134 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:54.200 It is a gimmick. You like gimmicks. I love gimmicks. Because other 135 00:09:54.279 --> 00:10:01.360 decks can do that gimmick doesn't make noorin doing that gimmick less you. So 136 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:05.960 whatever you're feeling, that that self consciousness, or that that feeling of failure 137 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:09.600 or not being able to do that in mono, read this exact strategy. 138 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:13.320 You're still doing it. That's true, right, Yeah, I guess right, 139 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:18.840 And and and for for people who like the race car analogies, because 140 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:22.279 you know I do. Just because other cars go fast doesn't mean my car 141 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:24.879 is not also fast, right, Like if I build a race car, 142 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:28.320 it will be fast. Other cars are also fast though. Yeah, it 143 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:33.080 doesn't make mine slow. So that's the first thing, and your car is 144 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:35.759 real junkie, but since it still goes fast, it's impressive. There you 145 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:41.519 go. Yet, there you go? Uh. Second thing is the what 146 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:46.279 do you do to kick started? Jump start it, reinvigorate the project? 147 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:50.000 Yeah, maybe just even continue the project when it gets harder and harder to 148 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:56.840 find random stuff, because it's not like somebody at wats he has your neural 149 00:10:56.879 --> 00:11:01.080 list and is specifically printing cards for it. Hand hand right, it's some 150 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:07.519 random red card from a bygone set that you need a weird printing for that's 151 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:11.000 probably never gonna happen. I mean, I got Price of Glory. Hey, 152 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:13.159 there you go. Right, it's got red borders. Yeah it's ugly 153 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:16.879 as hell. Oh yeah, those are so terrible. The worst what about 154 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:22.879 being what about doing a complete breakdown by category or function that cards serve in 155 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:30.399 the deck and saying something like, no, before that, look at all 156 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:33.759 of the weird stuff that could go in the deck, and see if there's 157 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:37.320 a trend that you could include. Ooh, right, like when I include 158 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:41.519 a dice rolling, Yes, exactly, what if there's like a dice rolling 159 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:46.120 or an attraction theme or an aura a theme or a land destruction theme, 160 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:52.240 some theme strategy, whatever it is that coincidentally that theme or strategy has a 161 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:56.799 lot of weird looking cards that you could a little bit morph. And I'm 162 00:11:56.840 --> 00:12:00.600 not saying that this what nourn does. But let's say Nora had like this 163 00:12:00.679 --> 00:12:03.480 Goblin sub theme which it used to what if you could take out the Goblin 164 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:09.639 sub theme and put in the dice rolling theme because the dice rolling theme has 165 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:15.240 five or six weird looking cards in it. Yeah, just see if you 166 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:20.879 can identify a trend or pattern, theme or strategy that has a high concentration 167 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:24.480 of weird looking freaking magic cards. It's a good idea. You got any 168 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:28.200 of the Lord of the Rings poster cards in there? No, there's uh 169 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:35.960 the what's the Scouring of the Shire one? I'm a spiteful bandit trees got 170 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:41.120 a poster card? Does have a poster card? Yeah, spiteful? I 171 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:43.879 have the I have the scene one where it's just like the top of an 172 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:46.679 ax. Yes, somebody's forehead. I have that one in to Ralph. 173 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.000 Yes that's a thing. Yeah, yeah, here check it out. I 174 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:52.759 got I got up on my screen so Brando can see. Oh, there's 175 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:54.440 one. Yeah, yeah, that's cool. Yeah, there you go, 176 00:12:54.559 --> 00:13:00.159 see and and like you could maybe play that one in in Norn. I 177 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:03.440 don't have one. The only one of those I own. I opened the 178 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:07.519 Uh it was the Witch King of Angmar. Oh, yeah, is that 179 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:09.279 it? Man? I might need that one. And I don't know what 180 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:13.320 that card does. And nobody knows what the Lord of the Rings poster cards 181 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:15.679 do. And I played it because this is cool. And then I went 182 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:18.159 to actually play it in a game. Oh what does that do? I 183 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:20.159 don't know. I don't know. And then we all went to look like 184 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:22.080 read it, like what the I have no idea? How read you? 185 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:26.360 I'll read you what the one Ring does on the on the poster card if 186 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:28.919 you read the card from left to right, so as if it is being 187 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:33.159 read like something in the West would be read. Yes, line by line 188 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:37.279 by line by line, not as it is in the columns with different colored 189 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:39.399 text. Okay, are you ready, everybody? Yes, indestructible. When 190 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:43.519 the one Ring enters the battlefield, if you cast it, you at the 191 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:52.200 beginning tap gain protection of your upkeep, put a everything you lose life, 192 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:58.759 put a everything kind of on the same line for each burden counter until burden, 193 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:07.679 then draw next turn counter the one ring, the one ring, What 194 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:15.080 the f that? What the hell? In different columns? So what do 195 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:18.240 they do? Nobody knows what that card does, man, oh man, 196 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:20.679 Why are they doing that with complicated card? Nobody knows what that card does? 197 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:26.679 So bad that they changed it in the arena. Man, that's like 198 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:30.519 the best card of the year. That's right up there with Texas Cryptic Command. 199 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:33.519 Hey, so good, I play, I pay this magic cost you 200 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:35.080 can see on the top of the card, and I just tell you two 201 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:37.519 things that it does. And you should believe me, because look at my 202 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:41.679 face. You know what. Sometimes I forget and I just I just use. 203 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:45.000 I just hold it until I counter and I draw card. Yeah, 204 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:48.440 and they have to believe it's it's gotta it's gotta tap all permanence they control. 205 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:52.240 That's got to be one. Sometimes I'll go, draw card, tap 206 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:54.799 all your guys, kill you. It's draw card, tap all your guys, 207 00:14:54.840 --> 00:15:00.159 counter a spell, bounce a thing, bounce tap all creature. Is 208 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:03.399 bounce target permanent or is it bounce target creature, tap all permanence. No, 209 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:07.039 it's bounce target permanent, tap all things. I tap all creatures because 210 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:11.679 tap all things would be too good even for cryptic command. Yeah, okay, 211 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:15.840 choose to counter target spell return target permanent to its owner's hand. Tap 212 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:24.639 all creatures your opponents control. There it is opponents plural fu Yeah that oh 213 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:28.399 draw card? Oh yeah. Why not find a theme. See if there's 214 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:31.200 something in that theme that you can incorporate. That's what I would do. 215 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:35.039 Okay, that's what I'll do. If you have any ideas, put them 216 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:37.200 in the comments or send it off to us. Hey, And and if 217 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:41.000 you're trying to do what Uncle Brando's doing or like what I'm doing with the 218 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:43.159 full Settle Lord of the Rings, don't get discouraged because things take time. 219 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:50.840 And and like the deck can be done for now until the next secret layer 220 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:52.879 comes out, or like the super drop comes out and you look at it 221 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:56.120 and it's like going to shop, right, it's like going to shop when 222 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:58.720 you know when the spring line comes out or whatever. And if there's nothing, 223 00:15:58.759 --> 00:16:03.639 then then the deck just remains complete for the time being. Wait for 224 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:07.559 the summer. And that's fine. Off topic a little bit, but thank 225 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:10.080 you for the advice, and I'm gonna give them some advice as well. 226 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:15.559 Utilize your wish lists, everybody, if you have your email address registered with 227 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:18.639 a site that you buy cards from, like that justly Fusion Gaming Online dot 228 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:22.120 com. I've got twenty three things on my wish list. I have at 229 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:25.440 least that many. Just even if you think that they're never gonna get this, 230 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:29.080 put it in there, because I've got a couple of cards, like 231 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:34.240 a couple of not like some really cool bodity rarities that just sort of show 232 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:38.399 up. And that's cool, man, Like, if you're looking for something 233 00:16:38.440 --> 00:16:42.879 specific, don't hesitate to utilize those wish lists across the sites that you buy 234 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:47.360 from. And if you're whatever site, Fusion is a great one, whatever 235 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:49.080 site, you just use them. I got I got twenty two actually, 236 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:52.519 and I want to read you some of them. Some of them are like 237 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:56.440 the things I'm missing from Lord of the Rings that that I don't think I'll 238 00:16:56.440 --> 00:17:00.360 be able to just randomly walk into an LGS and see or find like the 239 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:10.960 like the extended Art Jumpstart cards, the jump Start specific extended art cards that 240 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:14.559 only came in collector packs. Oh yeah, those ones are just so hard 241 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:17.960 to find. Yeah right, So, But in addition to those, I've 242 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:25.000 got things like a a foil Fyrexian Altar from Invasion, just to see if 243 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:29.200 it ever comes back in stock. Right, I've got a foil Visions from 244 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:33.160 Beyond the If a library has twenty or more cards, draw three Graveyard, 245 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:37.119 just twenty more cards. Oh yeah, yeah that's right. Yeah, yeah, 246 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:41.400 stuff like that. I've got the eleven language Soul Ring. Sure not 247 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:45.880 that I'll ever buy that for a thousand fricking dollars anytime soon, but i 248 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:48.279 want to see if it comes back into stock, and if it does, 249 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:52.200 if the price goes up or down. That'll help me kind of plan, 250 00:17:52.359 --> 00:17:59.440 prepare, track, anticipate. Yeah, gird your loins. Yeah, yeah, 251 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:04.880 I've got I've got a retroframe serialized Bruvak for the same reasons as those 252 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:08.119 other ones, just to see what they cost if they come back into stock. 253 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:11.559 What Bruvak did you settle on? I've got my original one from Jumpstart. 254 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:17.640 Still why because I'm a loser. I've opened every one of them. 255 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:22.799 Oh yeah, a serialized one. No, No, you would I would 256 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:25.000 have not. I would you would have it, and I would have your 257 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:29.599 money. You know you would not. You would put it in a binder 258 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:34.319 right beside all your goddamn foil or or dark misprinted Griffin canyons. You just 259 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:37.720 have a page of Griffin canyons with a brewvac right in the middle slot. 260 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:41.319 Oh, that's a good idea. That's a good idea. You got that 261 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:47.440 many. I'm not telling you. I will Neither and Tyler all combined have 262 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:51.440 nine of them. Yet I will not confirm or deny. Can I back 263 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:55.759 a deck with dark misprinted Griffin canyons? One day? I will say. 264 00:18:56.359 --> 00:19:00.559 I will say in your presence that I have been looking, looking four looking 265 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:07.160 for dark misprint visions Griffin canyons for about seven years. Now. That is 266 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:11.559 what I will say. That is where I will leave it. And here 267 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:15.039 we are. Here we are now today in twenty twenty four, just before 268 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:21.119 the Easter Long weekend? Yeah? Is it the same in America? Then? 269 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:23.359 The same Eastern Long as we do. Was it the same Jesus Christ 270 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:27.839 that got crucified than rose two days later on Easter Sunday? I don't know. 271 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:30.720 Was it? Probably was it? I don't know. I don't know. 272 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:33.680 I don't know. Well, they think he's a different color than we 273 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:37.119 do. Well, one of them like talk to a lizard, and then 274 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:38.680 one of them lived in a mountain, and yeah, there's a whole bunch 275 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:41.880 of different Jesus, isn't there. We hired a guy at the mine named 276 00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:47.839 DeJesus and his brother, the Leon. The Jesus and the Leon. Hey, 277 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:51.359 yes, the Jesus and the Leon. Wow, who's the Leon? 278 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:52.640 They like? What's he famous? I don't know. They're from the Philippines. 279 00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:56.200 You see the furniture guy. I don't know, because you have Leon's 280 00:19:56.200 --> 00:19:59.640 furniture here in Canada. Yeah, it's a Canadian thing. Yeah, yeah, 281 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:02.880 I think whatever. So, yeah, utilize your wish lists, But 282 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:04.079 none of that's actually what I wanted to talk to you about today. Oh 283 00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:07.200 yeah, I just wanted to mention the thing and we'll should we get into 284 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:10.880 should we take a slight break, grab a little bit of sider from over 285 00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:12.000 here? Yeah, and we'll talk about the real shit. Oh yeah, 286 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:15.799 let's let's do it. Okay. So here's the thing. That's what I 287 00:20:15.839 --> 00:20:18.519 got, that's what I've been thinking of. We're having imagine this, everybody. 288 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:22.920 Brando and I are sitting at ed H and m after in the bar, 289 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:26.720 drinking a couple of beers. Las we do checks out if you can 290 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:33.119 imagine something that's real and you were talking about thrown of the Dragon, thrown 291 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:37.960 of the Dragon, thrown of tark Here, Dragon, thrown of tark Here. 292 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:41.000 Yes, and you were we were saying, that's a good card. 293 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:42.319 I said, I never played that card, not one time ever. I've 294 00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:45.480 never cast that card. I use it as a wind condition in talks. 295 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:52.680 Row. Yeah, And I said, I think that the strategy vector that 296 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:56.759 you build dex on, or the register that you build dex on, is 297 00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:03.480 different than or other than the how I do you use this card to some 298 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:07.400 great effect good card? I can recognize I never cast the thing ever in 299 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:11.200 my life. Yeap, oh man, this is cool. I hope somebody 300 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:15.079 plays this. And I thought it would be an interesting kind of experiment if 301 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:22.599 I could a little bit like describe your deck strategy to you and then you 302 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:26.000 try and do it to me. And I thought that that would be fun. 303 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:29.000 I want me to go first. You mail and you play crabs. 304 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:33.359 That's it. That's it. I don't even have a crab deck anymore. 305 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:36.640 I have it together, but it's all parted out. Oh, come on. 306 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:38.000 I took the lands out well because it had a bunch of fetches in 307 00:21:38.039 --> 00:21:41.759 it that I needed. Come on, and it had a bunch of equipment 308 00:21:41.799 --> 00:21:45.319 in it that I needed. Come on, more, I can't afford it. 309 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:48.079 Just open more. Isn't there? Aren't they reprinting fetch lands And an 310 00:21:48.119 --> 00:21:53.759 upcoming master said they're finally doing borderless fetches and they're gonna be in packs or 311 00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:56.920 one of the ninety dollars. Yeah, I'm not gonna buy those ones. 312 00:21:57.000 --> 00:22:00.559 Me neither. I'm gonna buy those ones. Who wants to go first? 313 00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:03.440 You want to try and describe my play style or you want me to describe 314 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:06.200 yours? Okay, you go first, so I know what? Okay, 315 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:08.319 so I'll set the bar. Now we don't know what metrics I'm supposed to 316 00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:11.599 to get you on. Okay. So this is what I was thinking on 317 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:15.720 last night and on the drive in this morning when I'm thinking about, Okay, 318 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:19.680 what am I gonna ask Brando? Okay? Colors that you like? 319 00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:23.319 Oh? And colors that you stay away from this? Come on tweezy. 320 00:22:23.480 --> 00:22:30.920 Well yeah, a little bit. You like white? Color? No? 321 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:36.680 No, no, you like red and green? That's your favorite? Correct? 322 00:22:36.759 --> 00:22:41.400 And your next one that you probably play the most of? Probably black, 323 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:48.160 yes, right, yes? And some combination of black and other things 324 00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:53.279 red, red, green or red green and other things. Yes, all 325 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:57.119 that checks out. Yes, Blue you play the fourth most and white you 326 00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:03.119 play the least. Correct generally, I would say that you play top and 327 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:11.720 agro. That would be not a ton of go wide fast, low to 328 00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:18.720 the ground, agro fast build up, get your high end big beaters out 329 00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:22.839 quickly and in plentiful variety. Yes you think, am I Am I doing 330 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:26.599 good so far? Yeah? I think so. I think that you generally 331 00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:36.480 stay away from soft forms of control or political control, where you try to 332 00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:38.839 politic to save cards in your hand. I don't think that you do that 333 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:45.160 very often, Like, don't do that, I'll counter it, or or 334 00:23:45.319 --> 00:23:51.279 strategies that I would expect you to have a counterspell in or a wrath of 335 00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:55.480 God in. You don't play those strategies often. Nope, it doesn't say 336 00:23:55.519 --> 00:24:00.839 you don't play removal, but I wouldn't expect you to play rap of God. 337 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:03.400 And part of that is because I don't expect you to play white, 338 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:08.480 even though sweepers do. Even though sweepers do exist in non white colors. 339 00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:12.240 I play a chain reaction like one deck. Yeah, yeah, there you 340 00:24:12.279 --> 00:24:17.559 go where it makes me win the game. Yeah, exactly. You you're 341 00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:22.519 you're weaponizing your control and that's an agro strategy. Yes, that's how you 342 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:26.720 flip from mid game to a very abrupt late game. Yes, yes, 343 00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:29.160 and that's an agro thing. You're alive, You're alive. You're alive than 344 00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:34.039 you're dead. I think, yes, I think that you you actively stay 345 00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:38.839 away from combo, that you don't like combo finishing because when you do it, 346 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:42.119 or when somebody else does it to the table that you're at, you 347 00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:48.599 find it anti climactic. Yes, I would like to know that's on that 348 00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:56.400 topic specifically. Is that is that something that you developed into or something that 349 00:24:56.279 --> 00:25:00.400 is only since you started to play eat? Is that because you invest? 350 00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:07.400 Why don't you play combo? I stopped playing combo? Stopped playing well. 351 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:11.720 I have a couple of decks that do combo stuff, but like I stopped 352 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:15.400 kind of trying to include it as the main way that a deck wins. 353 00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:18.839 I still have them in decks because deck's gotta win. We talk about that 354 00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:22.960 all the time, yep, But after I saw a few I don't want 355 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:27.799 to put Laura on blast right now, but she's the most obvious example that 356 00:25:27.880 --> 00:25:30.559 you and I both know, and people in the nation who have played with 357 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:33.799 her will agree with me, and they will. She takes very long, 358 00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:42.079 kind of dirtily turns yes that accrue value incrementally during the same turn, and 359 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:48.599 then will either win with the combo or not. Each turn does that incremental 360 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:52.000 build up and it either wins or does not. Incremental and non deterministic. 361 00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:59.119 Nondeterministic because that's like the neutral game term versus dirty being like the derogatory term 362 00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:04.400 for that. And I got you, Lara, And I'm not saying all 363 00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:11.000 combos are like that, because they're not, but that experience kind of overall, 364 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:15.880 See, you get get trogged a few times, you get Najilla blade 365 00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:21.160 blossomed a couple of times, which is a little litu faster, yea faster, 366 00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:23.599 That's where I was going. But is the faster combo that kills you 367 00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:27.200 instantly, like think of Bruvac maddening pack of phony when I instantly mill the 368 00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:32.759 whole table. Is that give the same or different feeling? We will get 369 00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:37.160 to that when I do you. But that's why I stopped doing it, 370 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:41.960 because it's like I didn't like how that Like I'm kind of bored. And 371 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:47.480 then like remember my original clones deck One of the big win conditions was infinite 372 00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:51.960 turns, cloning the best thing every turn and using the age of the best 373 00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:55.640 thing at the table to win. But then sometimes I'd take ten turns and 374 00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:59.279 not win, and I was like, Okay, so I'm doing this thing 375 00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:03.359 that I find kind of boring when it's done against me, So I'm gonna 376 00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:07.920 just kind of start doing less of it. So my turns were more like 377 00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:15.319 big, smashy and colorful and bah or not. That's so that that was 378 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:19.519 something that you developed into out of not wanting to make other people feel shitty 379 00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:22.000 like you felt. Yeah, hey, that's a pretty good reason. I 380 00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:26.000 don't want other people to sit and wait like I do. I mean, 381 00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:29.119 maybe something some people probably don't mind it, and I'm not trying to say 382 00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:32.039 don't do that if you're playing games with me, but like, that's not 383 00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:36.680 the experience that I come out for, and if I have to sit through 384 00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:41.519 it, I will. But more always control what you can control and try 385 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:45.200 not to control other people unless it's with actual strategic magic card and playing well 386 00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:48.279 in magic. But like outside of magically, you can't control what somebody else 387 00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:51.880 is gonna put in their decks. You can control what I'm gonna put in 388 00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:56.960 mine. So I try not to do those things just because I don't particularly 389 00:27:56.079 --> 00:28:00.400 like when it's happening on the other side of the table. Yeah, So 390 00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.680 I just assume that other people are going to be like me and not want 391 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:07.039 to see that. So unless it's something that I can shortcut real quick or 392 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:10.119 demonstrate with a flow chart that I keep folded up in my token box, 393 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:15.640 I yes, I do have that, Yes, that does exist. You 394 00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:19.599 know what I really like is as as an experienced magic player hearing you say, 395 00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:23.519 like, I've had all of these things happen to me. Some of 396 00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:27.759 them I know that I like, and everybody else who I've ever played magic 397 00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:33.839 with likes. Those are the strategies that I'm going to play. The things 398 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.799 that I don't like or I've noticed that others don't like, I'm going to 399 00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.599 do my best to stay away from those strategies. That's the answer I hear. 400 00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:45.720 Yeah, and that just comes from experience. Right when we were younger 401 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.960 and first getting into Commander, and I'm talking like more than a decade ago. 402 00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:52.799 Yeah, and even before that, when we played sixty and four Casual 403 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:59.200 before anybody even knew what EDH was we played some degenerate trash that like it 404 00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:04.039 was hard to play against, and that made for some some salt and as 405 00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:08.920 we matured as as people and as friends, but also became better at magic, 406 00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:12.319 Like, if I don't like what you're doing, I'm gonna meta game 407 00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:17.000 against you. And eventually, if everybody met is against you, that thing 408 00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:19.400 that we don't like that you're doing is gonna weed itself out anyways. But 409 00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:26.480 to save as friends, to save ourselves all of that heartache of that process, 410 00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:30.079 that shit, we were just like, I guess, I guess nobody 411 00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:33.920 likes this. I'm gonna switch strategy and I'm gonna do this. Find something 412 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:37.519 else that's also powerful, Just do something. I'll find the things that I 413 00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:40.240 like that are fine, and then I'll just do those. You know what, 414 00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:41.799 I'm you know what, I'm struggling and I play fucking stacks. I 415 00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.559 do. Yeah, And you know what, people don't necessarily like that, 416 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.400 but well, on one or two stacks pieces in a deck, isn't playing 417 00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:55.480 capital S stacks. And if you are, you're playing your capital S stacks 418 00:29:55.640 --> 00:30:00.079 deck against my combo cedh deck. And that's appropriate. And I don't mind 419 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:04.160 that. I'm trying to combo you faster than you can stop me, and 420 00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:08.720 that's appropriate. Get Winter roar, Dickhead, exactly right. I'm having a 421 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:11.599 tough time. We'll switch sides here right away. But I want to tell 422 00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:15.440 you about my Marvel. Remember I told you I'm building octopus freaking big creature 423 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:22.640 guide deck where I clash. It turns, literally it turns freaking magic into 424 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:26.279 the game of war. Just reveal and biggest number wins. That's how you 425 00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:33.720 play war with a bicycle card deck. And the deck is either insanely powerful 426 00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:40.000 or completely freaking terrible or worthless no top deck manipulation. The first game I 427 00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:45.240 ever played with it, I wore. I clashed five times, five times 428 00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:51.039 in a row. I hit a land on the sixth one. I hit 429 00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:53.519 like a two drop and the guy flipped a one drop and I won the 430 00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:57.200 clash and I drew the two drop ole powerful magic. Yeah, after I 431 00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:02.599 cast my five drop commander for the time right like it was terrible. The 432 00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:06.880 next time I played it, Like the next game, I attack with Marvel 433 00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:11.160 deep operative when he when he attacks you a clash with an opponent. If 434 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:12.759 you win a class, you draw card. You can cast an eight drop 435 00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:18.039 for free. So like exactly eight or eight or less or less. Oh 436 00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:21.400 yeah, eight or less. So I go like this, I goes attack 437 00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:26.079 you. He's a one to eight take one forty turn clock and I clash. 438 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:30.039 I win with like a five drop and I draw it. The eight 439 00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:34.759 drop I cast from my hand was peer into the abyss. I draw half 440 00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:41.680 my deck and then I go tap five, put a dream Halls onto the 441 00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:48.640 battlefield dream Halls which lets you discard a card to cast a card for free 442 00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:52.160 of the same color. I go dream Halls, discard a blue card, 443 00:31:52.519 --> 00:32:00.480 time warp, and then I go discard a card, takeing a extra turn, 444 00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:01.839 discard a card, take an extra turn. So I got like six 445 00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:05.440 turns in a row now, And they're like, well, how do you 446 00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:08.000 win? And I go discard a black card, cast Razakath, discard a 447 00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:12.640 black card, cast room card, scard demon, discard a blue card, 448 00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.839 cast a giant eight eight crack and right, and I'll be like, okay, 449 00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:28.559 I'll go to my extra turn hit you for thirty what the It's fine. 450 00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:30.960 I hope the MIC's got it. I hope you can leave it in. 451 00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:34.920 Oh I will, oh yeah, leave it in, leave it in. 452 00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.720 So they're like oh, so you're just gonna take extra turns and like 453 00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:42.000 value hit us for eight eights and I'm like, well, value hitting for 454 00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:44.680 eight eights is like yeah, it's gonna take dudes, it's gonna take like 455 00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:47.319 three turns. You guys can just scoop because I've got literally forty cards in 456 00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:51.759 my hand and fifteen of them are removal and if you try and do anything, 457 00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:54.240 I'll just counter it, like here's my hand and a little bit it 458 00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:58.839 was like epic and awesome and I got to cast all these cards I love. 459 00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:00.759 But a little bit it was I climactic because it was an extra turns 460 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:07.640 combo and everybod's like oh. But also, just the game before, I 461 00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:10.680 demonstrated how bad the deck is. Right, so I don't know what to 462 00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:15.079 do and I'm having a hard time. Well those are That's exactly what I 463 00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:20.039 expect you to do. Have a hard time or people's thinks into the dirt 464 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.519 because here's what you do. Okay, here's what I here's here's what you 465 00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:25.880 do. You like to play black? I do like black. I think 466 00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:30.200 black is your most favoriteist color. Team A is my favorite combination, but 467 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:32.880 black is your favorite color. If you had one color that you had to 468 00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:37.440 play, you'd pick black and teamer not blue. Not blue. Blue is 469 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:40.160 your second most favorite. You're pre probably right it is. Maybe maybe I'm 470 00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:43.799 just being hard on myself. Maybe I do like blue more. No, 471 00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:46.000 you don't, you like blackmore? Okay, he's just saving face for me. 472 00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:51.839 He likes blackmore, he does, but blue has the blue has the 473 00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.440 and here's here's your thing. And I dig on you like this all the 474 00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:58.880 time, for this kind of all the time. You like to build decks 475 00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:07.239 that are a silly little gimmick, like crabs, like Milly, like clash. 476 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:13.039 Yes, but like all my guys have dies triggers, and when you 477 00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:20.559 tell people, oh it's dies trigger themed, Oh it's clash themed, Oh 478 00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:28.119 it's whatever. The cards in the deck do that do those things. But 479 00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:35.159 they also have the bruvac mill the whole table with one card. They also 480 00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:39.159 have the I clash and draw time stretch. So I win like your decks 481 00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:44.119 kind of do something silly and then have the come out of nowhere victory. 482 00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:46.000 Yes, And in no way does that make them the same, because all 483 00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:50.760 your decks are very unique and very different. Yes, but that's that's a 484 00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:53.400 thing that that I think as as commander players, we try to do is 485 00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:59.760 make our decks different. I like the splashy like firework, explosion and gross 486 00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:07.400 stre yep. You like the gimmicky, silly things to get you to that 487 00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:13.559 really powerful magic place. You like to win with the compact little combos, 488 00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:17.079 but you like to set them up by doing stupid shit, just terrible stuff. 489 00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:22.400 It's like, uh, it's like trying to drive in uh, like 490 00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.639 a nail this big, but with a little tiny plastic hand with a ballpeen 491 00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:30.159 hammer. Exactly. Yes. And the reason I think the reason you do 492 00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:34.719 that comes here. It comes The reason that you do that is because while 493 00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.079 I when I say something, people go, oh fuck, he probably does 494 00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:39.360 have it. So I don't bluss when I say, do you want to 495 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:43.280 hear? How hard I can put? Yes, the next turn they'll take 496 00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:45.760 thirty seven. Yes. And I've done that enough times where the one time 497 00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.920 I do bluff, maybe people will not attack me. Yes. Fuck, 498 00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.639 I don't want to risk that. Yeah, you build your decks all JANKI 499 00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:58.679 and shitty to do strong stuff so that you can say it's just crabs, 500 00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:04.199 it's Lord of Tresser hunt. You love that political. I just politics. 501 00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:07.760 So hard. Look at last game, I lost all the clashes. I'll 502 00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:10.159 bet you that's what you said. I'll bet you there was a time in 503 00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:14.400 that second game when you started winning and taking extra turns. We're like, 504 00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:20.280 look at last game, I didn't do anything. This deck sucks. And 505 00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:23.280 then you took nine turns in a row and you swung for seventy on each 506 00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:25.800 of those turns, killing three players. Yes, well, to be fair, 507 00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:30.400 I didn't have to take any turns. There scoop and those are the 508 00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:34.079 kind of decks I think you like to build where you like to build on 509 00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:37.400 a You want to do the stuff that everybody wants to do. But yes, 510 00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:43.519 you start it from like this little stupid nugget. Yes, this little 511 00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:45.880 stupid you're doing the you know, not the most part you want to do, 512 00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:49.519 like the top end of Yes, the thing that the deck does, 513 00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:53.320 but it's Breuvac beats, it's Breuvak and the boys. But it's also a 514 00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:57.559 very very very stout mill deck. I got it, I got it, 515 00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:00.960 This is it, this is it. I want to I want to do 516 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:06.760 the thing, the topest of endest, most powerful thing that all magic players 517 00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:08.000 want to do. I want to do the thing. But I want to 518 00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:12.239 get to the thing on hard mode, and that's what it is. And 519 00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:14.320 you know why you do that, Well, I tell you why you do 520 00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:20.440 that. I'm going to psychological you. You you like to win every game. 521 00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:25.800 And if you don't win the game with your deck winning the game doing 522 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:31.440 the traditional thing, then your deck didn't necessarily do the thing. But if 523 00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:37.280 you're playing stupid clash tribal, right, and you get to clash and laugh 524 00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:40.000 and do the stupid garbage that you and your deck just doesn't work and don't 525 00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:45.719 win, and you don't win, you've still won because your deck did something 526 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:49.239 that's funny that you can then tell the next table you play with. Oh 527 00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.960 man, I played this deck last time, and I clashed nineteen times and 528 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.639 I only won one. Yes, and it didn't do shit. My cascade 529 00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:59.960 deck exact same way. Oh you remember when I cascade into the clown card 530 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.719 the second week in or OW. We tell the story hilarious, and it 531 00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:07.000 will be hilarious every time it happens, and it will happen again, because 532 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:08.360 it's not like you went home and cut clown car. No no, no, 533 00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:10.480 no, you did not. I put tutors for clown Car isn't that 534 00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:15.239 right? And and that's how I think you build decks where you your deck 535 00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:21.760 will always win because your deck always does the thing. And like you'll never 536 00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:24.360 have a necessarily bad game unless you're flooded or screwed. Yeah, right, 537 00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:30.079 and good deck building principles take over there, Like to know, if I 538 00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:34.559 get flooded, it is like a statistical anomaly because I have the right amount 539 00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.599 of manna, the right amount of rocks, the right amount of card draw. 540 00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:40.280 It's not that the cards are bad, it's that the cards might not 541 00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:45.360 have all the cards have a very disparate power level. These ones are for 542 00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:50.119 to facilitate the theme or gimmick, the stupid crap. And these are the 543 00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:52.440 ones that are going to try and win me the game. And they're trying 544 00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:55.920 to feed into each other at like this kind of a steep, weird yanky 545 00:38:57.039 --> 00:39:00.719 angle instead of just building gradually until you get like that critical mass to go 546 00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:05.599 like really vertical, right, Yeah, Like your your power creep would look 547 00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:07.679 like like the if you hold an acorn sideways, where it's all kind of 548 00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:12.239 jaky and weird, and mine my power level is like when you take I've 549 00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:14.920 said it before, you take an apple and try and balance. It's on 550 00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:22.519 its stem where it's nothing until it's fucking everything like walking around on toothbits exactly. 551 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:23.760 It's like, what the hell is this deck even's supposed to do? 552 00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:29.800 Right? And I think that's how I don't know, that's how I see 553 00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:31.519 your decks being. Oh well, I'm good, I'm happy we had this 554 00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:35.320 conversation. Yes, right, And I think that both of those things are 555 00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:37.400 good, and I think they're both fun and I think people enjoy playing with 556 00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:42.159 us. Yes, so we must be doing something right. And you know 557 00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:46.360 what, I just I just do my best to make sure that everybody at 558 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:52.360 the table can have a good time. And even if my deck is sucking, 559 00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.559 I have to remember that I put these cards. I'd made the decision 560 00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:59.800 to put this in here for a reason. This is your fault. This, 561 00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:04.960 this must have a reason that would theoretical bring me or the players I'm 562 00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:08.440 playing with some pleasure. So if it doesn't work out, like clashing five 563 00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:13.440 times and hitting basics each time, not even good like non basics that will 564 00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:16.800 like let me scry and shit to facilitate my strategy. No frickin' basics, 565 00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:22.760 right, I've got to just take it and roll with it because that's magic. 566 00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:25.360 That's how life, life works. This is what we got to do. 567 00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:30.360 We've got to put it to the people that are listening, people in 568 00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:32.920 the nation, whether it be on Twitter or Facebook when we post the show 569 00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:38.519 or the discord and everything. There's another drink for people coming to the door 570 00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:45.000 because we're sharing the studio today. What's your deck building strategy? Like, 571 00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:49.760 give us the Coles notes, the one liner, your favorite colors, favorite 572 00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:53.039 strategy, stuff you stay away from, and the reason you build the way 573 00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:59.360 you do. And there's something I believe. Listen, I just hit this 574 00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.400 now, leaving this even more after talking to you, you talking to me 575 00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:06.840 about how I build decks, and me putting into words how you There is 576 00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:10.199 a sentence, a line, a through line that goes through every deck that 577 00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:15.480 you build, you or me, but like a mission statement of your whole 578 00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:19.320 deck Arsenal, And there's gonna be people out there. I'm thinking Lenny, 579 00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:23.119 Yes, I'm thinking his mission statement, Gumball. I'm thinking all Killer, 580 00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:28.679 no Filler, Ye Miller, just Chiller Miller. Yeah. You're trying to 581 00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:31.920 think of more things to add all those those two guys, specifically because I 582 00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:36.559 know that they're they're big deck builder guys that always try to do something different. 583 00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:38.800 I'll about you, even with them when they build their decks that that 584 00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:43.039 line still exists. It'll be different than yours, it'll be different than mine. 585 00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:46.760 But there's something in every deck that we build that's the same. It's 586 00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:51.079 the fingerprint. It's like, this is a this is a fingerp Okay, 587 00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:54.000 that's a better one than mission statement. The fingerprint of you on that deck. 588 00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:57.880 What is it that you just you can't get away from it? And 589 00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:01.280 it's there, not pet card, no and not. My goal is to 590 00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:06.440 make every deck different than my other one? No, no, what's the 591 00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:07.800 thing that ties them all together? That's a that's a good thing to think 592 00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:12.679 about because and here's the thing. If you can identify what your fingerprint on 593 00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:17.519 your deck is, it will help you diversify your your colors, your strategies, 594 00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:22.079 and and the way you play the game to make you a more well 595 00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:29.119 rounded player. There's there is Yeah, man, we did it. There 596 00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:30.239 it is we did it. You know what else? People know what we 597 00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:36.000 did because actually I went to here's what I that was for yesterday's deck. 598 00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:37.199 I went to say, like, oh, I wonder if for some other 599 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:42.079 enchantments that just could go in here that would be neat. And I went 600 00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:45.920 to the internet and I was looking at some enchantments and then I immediately got 601 00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:51.960 sidetracked and I went to Fusion Gaming online dot com and I bought a brand 602 00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:58.719 of ill omen Oh did you use c CEO Summer Promo code? And on 603 00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:01.559 April first? Would you use CEO Saved Promo card? I sure would because 604 00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:05.840 I was gonna Actually I wasn't gonna buy that card anyway, but I did 605 00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:08.519 because you saved money because I paid less for it, and now I have 606 00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:12.199 it in the mail coming to my house. I'm very excited about it. 607 00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.800 If you don't know what that card does, I'm not gonna tell you. 608 00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:17.760 Look it up by yourself and then go brand with you son of a bitch, 609 00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:22.039 you piece of shit. Why would you spend two Canadian dollars on that 610 00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:28.119 card? Three because I had to pay for shipping. But the point is 611 00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:30.360 that's what I did. I went to Fusion Gaming Online dot com. You 612 00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.400 CEO Save or Summer depending on when you're listening to this, gave us a 613 00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:37.519 five percent off. 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