Yeah, anything else on Spidey, I don't think, so let me just
hang on, let me quickly kill some time. Let me just see when
that filming rumor was, because I forgot to bring that up. So I
wanted to clarify the timeline of this. Ally, what you have a lunch
today? What I have at lunch today? For lunch? I had a
nice banana and I had a nice granola bar. That's it. That's it.
They were nice. Kirkland else fishing, very nice, some GIRTHI and
heavy. We did have leftovers and nice. We had a big batch of
spaghetti and meat sauce last but I left. I left. It wasn't nice,
so you had to leave it filming October this year, so right,
oh wow, yeah, that's quick. I need to hear. I need
to know what Kirkland has. I'll answer that at the next time Travis needs
us to kill Weich will probably be in like three casts, but uh good
three casts from now. Find out what Kirkland have for lunch on this day
specifically. Yeah, moving on, let's talk more about the Spidy world than
I'm gonna kind of put these together because they're both rumored films going on,
right, now ones and the Sony verse ones in the Marvel verse. So
speaking of the Spiderman stuff, there is a rumor going around this said,
there's been three iterations of this rumor, and this why it is a Sea
Tier Scooper. But I do think it's true, and I think it's one
that sounds good enough because at first it was there's an animated project that's a
Venemratar project, and then it's like, oh this who's writing and producing it?
And we've talked about the room a few times. But so the rumor
going right now is Sony is right or having Seth Rogan produce and write a
Venom animated project. No timetable or anything like that. I would assume Offseea's
gonna be after the last dance. So that's the one that's going around.
And then there is a rumor going around right now from another C plus or
C Tier one higher one there will be a world World World War Hulk type
of film. It's not known if this would be something like that's a full
on Avengers five here you go, or if it's like a civil war where
it is a movie, but it sounds like it would be a movie to
perhaps establish the team. But there is kind of conflicting stuff because then Scoopers
came out today and said, oh, well, you know, Avengers is
still on track for five, So this one's kind of if he it sounded
like we had heard these rumors before, but it also now sounds like that
that Hulk soul film is not happening. Like that's why I'd have to be
in a type of Vendors film. So, Dylan, what are you feeling
about venom? You know, would you be down for? Like all World
War Hulk is pretty much just the Hulk goes mad again and the Venders pretty
much got off. I'll get you the full description. It's not like one
of my favorite stories. Lots of people really enjoy it. But I look
at the full plot synopsis there in a second, Uh, I mean,
yeah, seth Rogen making an animated venom, Like hell, yeah, that
sounds fun. I like Seth Rogen and his humor, and you know he's
getting his chops in there with the TM and T thing right, which I
didn't see, but it looked looked great, So great. If it's something
stylish like that, then I would be really intrigued to see it. And
yeah, something a bit different from what we're getting from Spider Man. I
think i'd be down for some stupid seth rogen kind of humor with Venom and
by Man, like, I'm down for that, because we've got another other
Spider Man stuff. You know, we got Freshman Year. If that's still
the name of that show, I don't even know. We got all these
Spider Verse things. We have MCU Spider Man popping off, so I think
I think there's room for something weird and kind of fun like that. So
I'm into that. And then yeah, Travis snow So this is after we
talked about this before, and that's why I'd be a the Gamma radiation.
Oh no, what's happening now? You missed it? Okay, we talked
about this before where they'd have to change a lot of stuff because we will.
I fucking hate that title, man, I cannot say those words together.
The Hulk wheah wwh. That sounds like some fucking Oppenheimer bomb or something.
But they send him off to Cigar in the comic books as a punishment,
right, the Illuminaty gets together, he freaks out, They go,
ah, let's get rid of him. Off's c MCU very different he comes
back to Earth and he has a bunch of like Core Meek, all these
people that are very more comedic. Now they come back and it's a big
war because the Halt they wronged the Hulk. Right. The theory Taya would
love this the theory going around the MCU that they they would maybe use it
like somehow Scar gets killed and that would pop a Brufe's banner off and that
way kill the guy already. That's kind of the well, that's why we
talked about that. When he got introduced. I said, I think he's
just kind of there for like to be a plot element. But Dyan,
does that interest you? Like get it? Like that's how we get some
Avengers or establishing the Avengers is the Hulk Bruce banner. Maybe this is why
we've heard that he's not on the team. Something happens he snaps Savage Hulk
and the new Avengers or new Forming Avengers whatever it, maybe have to take
on set Hulk. Hmmm. I don't love the idea, but I don't
hate it, like like I hated that Spider Man plot, So I'm kind
of kind of in between there. It's one of those things that i'd want
to see a bit more. I'd want to see, like which characters are
we talking about that would be facing off against him? Yeah, but yeah,
and like we've it's just one of those we've talked about these Hulk movies,
solo movie, World War Hulk even specifically for years at this point,
and it's just seems like it's not even in development hell, because it's always
just like these little swirling rumors, you know, a little a little gust
in the wind sort of thing. So until we really get more confirmation,
I don't know, it just seems like hearsay, But I think it would
be fun, and you know, I think it's important for them to try
and hold on to some of those like og Avengers, which they don't have
a whole lot to pick from this like anymore. You know, I'm sure
we're gonna keep any thor stuff. But other than that, like you know,
Hawkeye's kind of sunset it a bit, so I feel like this would
be fun, and he hasn't really had his time to shine and even put
him in a new light in this way too, I think would be a
fun evolution for the character, considering that he's been through a lot at this
point. But then we've also talked about how it seems like a very fun
part of his development was kind of like what happened in between endgame, and
we kind of miss some of that, and so I think this is a
chance for us to like see this development of the character and go into a
new direction with it. The same reason why I really loved what did with
Scarlet Witch in Multiverse of Badness. Just taking a character that we know and
love and is known as a hero and see them turn into a new light,
I think is quite fun. Feeling that with Loki as well, So
I think to get something like that with the Hulk would be would be pretty
cool. But I don't know why. There's still something about the idea that
just seems like it's missing a piece or two of a puzzle there. So
maybe that is just hearing more details, hearing what other Avengers would be in
this kind of thing. But I do think the idea of it being maybe
a good way to like, once again, if it is pre Avengers,
which you talked about like that may or may not be true if it is
pre Avengers, and that is a good way to establish the team or even
like bring that team together. I think that's a really cool idea. That's
something i'd be I'd be into, although I have to imagine Captain America is
going to somehow touch on the current Avengers of the team to some extent.
But if I'm wrong about that, I guess this would be a good backup
place to do that kind of thing, because I think you want that before
the next Avengers, I would hope, and you might get some set up
because don't forget, you got Red Hulk in Captain America and you have the
Leader, so you have two Hulk villain's in there. So I don't know
if they somehow make it that the Hulk ends up being on a team with
those two. It's tough with like you brought it where we keep talking about
the WWH. It's like, is that because it's something that is in development
hell and they can't get it going, or is it something that's always on
the dock and it's like we're gonna, we're gonna do this. We're just
waiting for the right time, you know. And that's why I really don't
know. I personally hope it happens because the plot, I feel it,
I don't think we necessary. I'm at a weird place. You just want
Big Hulk back, and I feel like this would be a way to get
there. No what I do, but what I want back more. And
I think the reason I wanted back is we got Bess on the way.
It's like what Dylan touched upon, what we've talked about before. I want
a movie before Big Avengers to get the Avengers together. We should fall in
love with them first, a new team and then do that. But I
do think it's almost missed the boat of like I I just don't know will
people care about Hulk anymore to be the antagonist, right Scarratt, which I
thought so like when Dylan just brought up because she shined in and Indie War
Endgame than WandaVision, So it was this like transition if she's building building building
getting bigger and bigger, where Hulk is just he's just kind of like on
Simmer. He's been on Simmer since I'd say thor Ragnarok, right, So
that's where it's like, will people care? So for me, it's not
for the Hulk, it's not for all I want to see the story.
It's just I really want the Avengers to be together before Kang Dynasty or whatever
it is. Because I've said this before, that's a big problem. I
think that's why a lot of people are invested. So I hope this is
true, and I hope someway it. It does make sense with all this
Hulk stuff in Captain America. People joke that Captain America is more a Hulk
movie than a Hulk movie or a cat movie, just because yeah, why
do we have two Hulk films in that movie. But that's fine. And
then second, I guess with the seth Rogan thing, I don't know.
I'm on the opposite side where we're coming from, the Tom Hardy one.
And then if we're gonna get some zany comedy, I just say, we're
living in a world where everyone, like the GA is gonna associate Venom as
like a goofy, laughing stock type of character. And that's fine, that
can work. But it's kind of like the same way when we're talking about
ragnar Rock. I lost to people fucking hate Ragnarrock and they hate Love and
Thunder because what it did to Thor. That's like me with Venom, where
I'm just like, oh, they're massacring my boy right now. You know,
like, I'm happy about the games, and maybe I'm wrong because everyone
brings all the boys, the boys, Rogan doesn't right the boys. All
this stuff Rogan rights sausage party ATMT has lots of humor and comedy, so
maybe it won't. Maybe it could change up. And I'm not saying it're
gonna be bad. I could be sitting on this podcast years from now being
like, oh, this was a hell of a good time. But on
the concept I would be fine with him producing, but him writing as well.
I go, uh, I just don't want a schlocky, very radar
sausage and I don't think it would be that. But like, I think
there's a chance it could be like Tater Tots seeing Times ten. So I
don't know, but I'll give you this, It'll be better than the live
action movie, so I guess. I guess we have that. So that
would be my thoughts on those two situations. Just a wild symbiote orgy or
something. Yeah, all carnage going everywhere, scream mixing around. Yeah to
Fox his name on that moon? What's the Black King or whatever? Or
is it just a black king? No? No? Oh? Yeah,
all's tendrils are popping off. Oh yeah, Ryot, keep going, keep
you're almost listening to all them. Yeah, it probably is, but I
think that's my key. I'll just take the mic from you there. Yeah,
I'll start with the Venom thing. I I like this idea. I
think the more the more animated shows that I'm getting, the better, especially
if it's a character that I know in love with, you know, someone
that's producing slash writing it that I really like his material, and worst case
scenario, it just doesn't hit for me and I just kind of bow out
of that show. I I don't think it's oh really, Oh yeah,
I definitely misread that or misheard that when you just talked about that. My
bad, buttes Okay, yeah, that's let's run that back. What do
you think about the Venom Project animated movie? I like that a lot less.
Actually, whoa, that's quite the shift. I like. I think
I was just kind of in my mind in preparation to talk, I was
just gonna reference, like, you know, we got X Men ninety seven,
like we got all these other like animated shows that I'm just totally vibing
with right now, and the fact that you love the movie. Now you're
a big fan of Big Fanta season one. Yeah, there's so much good
animated content. Man, I'm telling you caught up. For your sake,
there's you gotta probably try to catch up by next week because something big could
happen if it gets spoiled. Because this is what is it? Four five,
five, Yeah, there's rumors about something happening in episode seven. You're
gonna be pissed if you hear see it. I'm telling you, okay,
okay, And I don't want to tell you because you'd be pissed. I
told you I got spoiled the first season. I don't want to have that
happen again for the for this season, but anyways, for Venom, I
yeah, I think the fact that it is going to be one project,
not like one episode that might be bad, in like a collection of a
season that, like the overall season could be good, even though there might
be some lesser episodes or some higher ones. But the fact that it is
just a movie, I don't. I don't, Yeah, I don't fully
I'm not fully on board with that as of right now. Taylor Field,
this hand up so is the fact that it's a movie? Is it because
it's a seth rogen project. That's de turring you if you look at other
Spider movies like Spider Verse, Yeah you love Spider Verse with them, where
the disconnect is on your excitement. I think it is just like the unknown
factor of like what I would be getting, because, like for Venom,
even just pulling from like the live action movies, I think to an extent
there's almost too much humor for me in those movies. And if this is
an R rated Seth Rogan movie, I would imagine it would be more so.
But I also really love Seth Rogan's comedy, so maybe it would hit
like really well with me. So I I think I was just caught off
guard that the fact that I was, like all my mental power was thinking
of it being a show, and now that that is just a movie,
it's like, oh wow, Okay, Yeah, I don't have all the
answers for you, Taylor. I wish I did. I don't know.
It's just the first initial thoughts are not super positive. But I'm gonna wait
and see. I'll see it no matter what happens. I I love Venom,
but pull your Venom posters down behind it. I hate this character.
Yeah, she loves Vedown posters and then sorry, I forgot to mention the
other the other What the hell were you guys even talking about? Oh yeah,
World War A Hulk? What's a movie? I am mixing special presentation.
I like the idea. I like the the character that is the Hulk.
I agree with Travis's assessment that it seems like Hulk has been just like
kind of on simmer lately ever since they've entered this like smart Hulk Avenue.
I like the idea of what smart Hulk is because he takes both aspects of
what like Bruce banners brains as well as the bron that is Hulk. But
they just haven't really been squeezing that juice, you know, and pulling out
the crackers in order to like have like a good gooders with this character.
So if this is just a way for us to just throw that out the
window and just get straight back to angry Hulk, I like that idea.
I feel like I haven't had enough of that version of the character, or
maybe it's just been too long that I I'm kind of forgetting what it was
like to be in that era. So yeah, I don't know. I
like that idea. I'm okay with Scar dying. I don't really know that
character at all. I know more about his Marvel snap card than I do
about the actual character. And there's Scar, just the CGI thing on screen
with that hair. Don't forget that hair too, remember, Yeah, I
have much else, So pass along here your boy Scar. You ready for
him to you ready to say goodbye? I don't want to go. Yeah,
oh yeah, we already know him. I want to see him kind
of get up to some some stuff here too. God yeah, stuff terrible
though, God damn, it's been a while since it actually looked at this
guy. You can fucking go if you could, if you sat you down,
Taylor and he said, no, matter what you know, in the
next three years, we're killing Scar. It's just been the plan. But
you can have him do one thing in the MCU before he goes. What's
that one thing you'd like Because you said there's you'd like to see Scar do
a lot of things, give me one of those things you'd like to see
him do. I'm like, don't pull them all. It's just, oh,
we should do something on a stream, like a charity stream, like
a see shaved at the end. But like if we hit him out we'll
have someone shave their head to look like that for a portion of the stream,
then the end fully shaved. Maybe I'll do it. Fuck, I'll
I'll say, hey, I'll cut it, like give you the scar.
You are the one who was the closest physique to scar, and I got
the long hair, so I can pony it once I shave it. Yeah,
definitely, Yeah, So what do you want to do? What was
the one thing I would want him to do? I wanted to live up
to the father was No, that's like multiple film story, huge expectations.
I'm staying like interaction of fight something, not like live up to the mantle
of the legendary hotel. That's a fucking song of you know. I mean,
if if he's gonna go and he's gonna die, then the one thing,
the one thing I wanted to do would be to die saving someone else,
and that would probably be like the quick Silver Route Baby where he dies
Ultron just you see didn't coming. Yeah, he's an idiot, that's I
didn't you know that was on purpose, But I like that one that was
for me. That was good. Yeah. The character though of Hulk just
kind of yeah, just I was thinking earlier about when you mentioned like what
would be the tipping point for him to kind of get angry again? And
I thought, you know what, I'm I looked up a quick little meme
here that I'll explain in context with the audio listeners. I thought, you
know, maybe he's just in the bathroom and he sees the urinal Thanos is
right, and he just fucking loses it because he's the guy that snapped the
fingers and took the guy out. So that was the best you had there?
Did you make that quick? Are you fucking kidding me? Got me?
I thought it was gonna be the Chills, No, No, a
couple other ones in there. I just thought I was expecting more payoff on
that meme, and I just got a four year old hawk ony. Oh
oh that rock Venom talks about that. Well, hang on now, hang
on the hawk suffs it in the works for a long time. Yes,
And do I think he needs a standalone film of any kind right now?
No? I think just kind of keeping that, keep the keep those well,
keep the storyline just kind of as it is through other projects. But
yeah, eventually, give us that oh that o g Hawk, give us
that that angry character back a little bit, because I think that's what people
that's a fans or Cravens the fans want. Uh, you can have fun
with that and if you somehow get Aaron Norton back Edward Norton, error is
let me just I know Aaron Norton. Oh we do. Here we go
no credits, it's one. You got a special things on a film called
Planet of Humans in twenty nineteen. Let's see here. It has the fault
of plan of the apes planning humans s takes a harsh look at how environmental
movement has lost a battle through well meaning disash's choices. So this can be
his big break Aaron Norton, because it looks like all the other Aaron Norton's
are like crew guys. So well, I was gonna say, Edward Norton,
you could get him in and have him being like the Raging Hulk or
something like that, like a multi universal thing. What do you got there?
I found an actor with the screenshot and everything. It's great. This
guy's been in more Aaron. Oh, it's more, well, Aaron Morton.
He's he's been an FBI, he's been in a blind Spot, he's
been watched some on the blind Spot. I remember him absolutely not. But
you know, you know, let's seems Moran. Who did he play in
blind Spot? He played male correction officer. What was her name she played?
Sif she was in that show, right, I think connection, So
maybe she could be his in into the MCU get him in the in the
room with Figy right there, that was your favorite character. May I will
collect your offer, sir. I remember you being like, hey, you
gotta watch the show for the male correctional officer. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
As for Venom, I Seth Rogan's humor. There's something about that just
it does make me laugh. Green Hornet, I really like that green Hornet
movie a lot. What a poll out of all of his He loves green
Hornet. But he told me the other day that he's not finished Pineapple Express
ever, and I was shocked. Yeah, I arguably his best film in
my opinion. That's probably like the one one of the projects I've not actually
gotten through. Yeah. I think it just came out of the time when
I just was too young, and then super Bad was around that time,
and I was all about super Bad. Did you finish super Bad? Oh?
Yeah, great, let's see, I just don't know how Pineapple Express
would be. You're too young for that, and so like they're they're pretty
similar smoking pot again, but that's okay. Continue. I think after the
hot fire steam that was tmn T, I got that frog in my throat
right now. I think that you gave it to me, jumped out of
your mouth into mind eat it. I am all for this, I really
really am. I personally don't think we're gonna get a lot of really Seth
rogany humor. And I said that because TM and T that humor in there
doesn't feel like Seth rogen humor. And A granted that's not a rated R
movie, but a lot of it feels very different from the kind of humor
that I would expect from him in other projects. It feels very different,
and a lot of the humor, like I I could get behind and enjoyed
it in a sense that at least it showed that he was able to be
funny in a way that didn't have to be always R rate. It didn't
have to always be able to pod drinking, smoke, sext all that kind
of stuff. He was able to tackle humor in a different way of course
it's a kid's movie, but I just wanted to give this is rumored to
be R rated, Yes, but I do give him that credit to that
the fact that he's not limited to this this generic, stereotypical type of humor
like we see in his movies. He's got the capacity to branch out and
engage in different levels of humor and comedy. And I think that he has
potential here, especially having, like I said, the success of TMNT that
this could be It's gonna be something really, really good, something that we
haven't seen before. So you don't think the Turtles have like a young kind
of banter, kind of like in Super Bad. Like I feel like that's
kind of similar. I'm not saying, but I feel like the yeah talking
about like getting drunk and stuff. But I feel like between the six,
like there's some rogan isms in there in my opinion for sure. I feel
like if you go back to the review, we had said those, but
you know, go check out the review, it's on the feed. My
prediction is if this happens, then I'm gonna eat like a pothead or something,
and I'm gonna have to react to some some marijuana dosage that's gonna be
my prediction. So you know, my prediction is he will go to like
fight a criminal and kill or you know, beat up a pothead, and
then it will be the sum. You'll be like, well, what's this
And then there's gonna scene where the the stimule gets high and you get the
eyes doing like x's and shit like I eat Michael Shannon's character, mister Greene.
Yeah, like, I really don't know. I'd love it if I'm
not saying he needs to make the punisher, but I just there is a
clear path to me seeing a lot of things. And again not that it's
done bad. He does that stuff pretty well, So I don't know,
I get and I guess maybe again it'd be better than all the venom stuff.
So till you got anything else, that's it. All right, we'll
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