Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to Tress. Told you I'm
your host, Trash Snell, Trass b Snell, Cody's guy, whatever may
be. You know, I'm your host for today, tonight, whenever you
might be listening. Who knows, but I thank you for listening. If
you are, just give me a second. I'm letting people know this is
live. And yeah, that's why you subscribe to Patreon because you begin this
about Dan and Half early, or you know, subscribe on YouTube because I'm
upper corner of light. But it won't be releasing on the feeds because the
feeds right now. You can check out Dylan and Taylor just said. They
just said, I'm saying that because I'm putting out a gift for promoting live.
Uh. But they just did the Halo review, so you can go
check that out episodes one to two. Kirklan will be back next week joining
him. I told you all, I said, there's no way, uh
know why Kirklan's making that of you, Kirkle. I appreciate Kirkling. Love
Kirkland, you know, one of my GV brethren, but you know,
sometimes a little big first bridge. He's like ohna make these. I'm like,
dude, you gotta study, go do that. You're gonna make these.
You're coming back from Disneyland today today, which I'm very excited to hear
him talk about you. But you're come back today. You're not gonna make
the fucking Halo thing. I guess there was a miscommunication between Taylor and Kirkland
dukets. Kirklin was like, I could have watched it on the plane,
but go check out Dylan and Taylor doing Halo. And yeah, there's lots
of stuff that dropped on the feed. Last week. Me and Dylan did
Night's Juicy side Quest two and a half hours talking about the state of play
talking about Xbox and the exclusivity and the PlayStation and all that jazz. And
then we have the movie draft, No, what is it? Which one
is it? There's a lot of drafts right now. The Marble draft just
came out because Madam Webb is about to come out, as you can hear.
That's why you subscribe to Patron, because let's see if they may get
through all eight episodes of BD MICSS. They definitely will. They made their
season one and I don't think there's been a series and keekers that we've ever
stopped mid season. I know there's seasons that we've not, like maybe falled
up on, but I don't think we've ever just been ah, we're done
with this show. I'd really have to think hard. I'd really have to
think hard, because even like I quit bad Batch, but I knew Taylor
was gonna do bad Batch went Taylor to Chuck. Yeah. So I think
we usually try to always commit to something which is good or bad, because
I guess it's good for the people I like it. It sucks when you're
doing something and then the numbers aren't there, but you do, like,
I don't know, we made a promise and the people that do enjoy it,
we just feel bad. We saw about episode three out of eight or
something. I guess something was really bad. But I think most of the
time, when we announce something, we're gonna go through with it. I
think the only times we haven't done that too was like we announced we're gonna
do Karate Kid Slash Cobra Kai retrospective for Carl as a Christmas present, and
we just didn't because we didn't have the time because it was so much.
But we try, we try to fall through, and I think they'll make
it through. I heard a little bit of their review. I don't know
if they're as pauses on it, but it sounds like maybe better than last
year, so who knows. But yeah, the ms UGE, I guess
it's a Marvel draft. We're doing the Marvel Draft right because yeah, because
there's a little lack of MCU projects. But that's fun if you like just
anything fantasy sports. Even if you don't, people just in generally feel like
when people talk about it's funny. Like other than reviews, I feel like
the episodes people talk about when you're like, hey, what are your favorite
Geek first episodes? Usually the Anniverse run comes upset's good, but it's always
like the Draft and Golden Geeks, And that's what's happening right now. Golden
Geeks. Right now, we record a four hour long episode that we'll be
releasing in about six or seven parts. Or if you have over patron right
now, you can get every single thing you can vote because there's like best
Actor. I think it's best Supporting Actress, Best Film. There's a bunch
of categories. There's four the most ever this year that we could not decide.
We needed a tiebreaker, so the patrons you had to vote for the
tiebreaker and do that, and we'd really appreciate, you know, because right
now, hopefully we did pull three and whatnot, it'd be nice to go,
you know, just ral up and get something big. But yeah,
it would be nice to have something that's very helpeful at the podcast again,
you know, because it's just there hasn't been much, like you know,
we're still doing well enough, but we're still like quite lower than we were
the years before. And I think it's just because like there's not as much
hot news right now and hot properties right So if you want to support us
in these lower months, if you want to support us in the down month
so we can make more content, because hey, it always is kind of
quarter by quarter, right Whatever we can make this month goes towards the next
a half, and if not, then you know, maybe a little less
shows here and there, But we would appreciate the support. Get episodes,
add free early and exclusive. There's a bevy of all different there's four tiers
with a bunch of different varieties of many things I've talked about, but a
much different variety of benefits and tiars. So after nine's on. There's a
lot of good stuff, So we would appreciate it if you really like what
did we do and you like that we put in so much content and all
do four hour episodes and stuff like that, head over there and go,
okay, I'd like to, you know, throw a couple of checkles and
we appreciate it because we know everyone works hard for those. And if you
can't, just like rate subscribe defilm podcast YouTube where we watch so but yeah,
it's stressed. You do a little solo show here. I think this
will be hmm, this might be the last one until March, which sounds
funny because it's like the beginning of February. But just because I think in
March I'll be doing two for sure or yeah, two for sure, maybe
three, And I know, like I said, I think I said probably
more around March time is May when I end up going monthly again. But
I think let's see, Yeah, we'll see. But there's a lot of
retrospectives coming up. We got a day coming up where we're filming for our
third movie. So there you go. Already on the number three. I
guess that's the big news too, is check out this Sunday on the YouTube's
on the Twitter, everything like that. We will be releasing Adrenochrome's second trailer
with the new date that I'm one hundred percent on obviously nine point nine,
because you never know, but it's gonna happen. It's gonna be that's when
it's coming out. Very excited to get our first film out there for all
of you. And like we said before, it's gonna be a four day
rental and that it's going away for probably maybe if not more, but it's
going away at least for a year because we're gonna do festivals and some festivals
don't want them online stuff like that. So it's we're giving you a chance
to rent it. You guys and gals who support us. We really appreciate
it to get a chance like as a first look, and then it's gonna
get thrown not thrown away but seals and stuff. Right, but uh yeah,
let's uh, I don't think there's another Super Bowl trailer cast. We're
gonna be doing that. Just that's why head out to Patreon. You get
the schedule over week, So that's that's that's a good thing is we got
like this week we have I think there's a podcast dropping every day. It's
tough, you know. It's a not tough as far as like listening,
that's all good, but tough as far as just to keep up sometimes,
you know so, but Tress told you. So, We're gonna be talking
about just three things today because I wanted to do ones, but I I
don't want to put this off anymore. I like to try to put it
out end of January, but it's gonna be February. But I'm gonna do
my ultimate I won't say final, but pretty final twenty twenty three rankings,
and know it's later, but there's a couple of movies that I didn't get
to see until later on or if they didn't come here Sideway till VOD.
So we'll be doing that. I'm gonna talk about the Disney's Investors Day.
They talked about some slates and whatnot, which is there's some developments and some
stuff that's interesting and there's some stuff that's head scratching. We'll go there,
and then we're gonna be talking about some wrestling, which I'm gonna talk about
wrestling first because that's what I've been wanting to get off my chest. Pass
a couple of days, and you know, I guess for the audio listeners
it probably won't be first because I know people listen to wrestling for like last
and stuff most of the time. But uh yeah, what a wild day,
right, And I meant to do I meant and didn't mean to do
a trast told you after what happened on Friday, because what happens. So
I guess it's a week ago, right, I did that, Traves told
you two weeks ago. That was after the rumble. Overall good show,
but like good results, right, that's all that, not all that manage,
but it's a big thing that matters, right, get the results.
Bailey's winning great, Cody's winning great. They do that great angle Bailey great,
and then they do this angle with Cody and I'm not gonna go over
because of your wrestling fan, you know. But pretty much it was just
him step aside so the Rock could take a spot and verse Roman reigns of
Wrestleman, and he was like, it's presumably gonna verse Seth. I didn't
say much about it because at that point I was I think the tweet's probably
still up there, but I take it back now because they end up changing
the result, right, And for me it was something where WW many times
will make and I understand a right business right, I don't know if it's
the right business move actually, because I think that's what my argument is is
the same way as what happened ten years ago as Seampunk is. You can
argue that absolutely Cody versus Roman. That's the whole debate, right, like
what's the bigger match, Cody versus or sorry, yeah, Cody versus Roman
or Rock versus Roman. Rock versus Roman is the bigger match because it will
bring in more mainstream wise, I absolutely understand that. But if you're thinking
a short term, sure, if you're thinking long term, that's where I
still say, if you can only do one, but because I hope we
live in a world where you can do two and you get to do Cody
this year and Rock and Roman. They should have just had Code one last
year and they could have done Rock and Roman this year. But I digress.
I think Cody versus Rome right now is better for the long term,
even though it might be a little weird now that if Cody beats Roman,
then Roman beats the rock later on. I don't know many of the rock
is gonna be Roman. Who knows, But I think that is a better
for long term because it makes Cody, what my name is the guy?
Right? In wrestling, it is defined by many things in generations, but
it is primarily defined by who is the guy. Hopefully one day will be
like who is the girl as well? Right? But there's it went from
you know this if you're wrestling fan. But still it went from there,
and there's ones that are the big, big ones, right, But it
really went from Hogan and then to Brett and Sean. They kind of shared
it, but really people don't unfortunately count Breton Sean because that was in the
WCW era where things were lower. So really went from Hogan if you're talking
about your big dogs, right, not Roman rating the big dog. Uh.
It went from Hogan to Austin, to Rock to Sina and to Rains,
and Rains took a while to get there. I know Rain's I think
there's gonna be revisionist history about oh well he wrestlming in of these wrestlemanis da
da da dah. I feel like the only WrestleManias that really should count are
the first one he did with Brock and then the one that uh everyone,
he's done since he was healed. Those other ones were him being pushed very
hard to be a big deal, and it didn't feel like he was a
big deal. He was not really the guy right So he has been now
and he's stepping away pretty much. He's a part timer. And the argument
for me has always been you got to find a new guy, and there's
one staring you right in the face, and them doing Cody versus Roman right
now makes him the guy, I think, as well as he wins.
If he loses again, I think I'm pretty much I would really be done
because that's where as well, that's where last week I was. I didn't
really rush to do one because I want to see it played out. But
also I've taken this approach before, and I know some people might say it's
sour grapes, but it's more of a sense of if you don't like a
movie or show, don't keep watching it. Like Super super Band Mike said.
Now, it's different when we're reviewing something because it's like, well,
we got to go through with it, let's go. That's where it's good
if it's multipleer reviewing, because you can just say, hey, I'm not
enjoying this. Can you two take it great? Get a bounce, you
know. And that's why if I had a wrestling show, it'd be I'd
be more inclined. And I always go back and forth with that one.
I only I'm gonna pull the trigger. Yet it's just because of time,
because it's hard to do. And also, just like we'll see over the
podcast ends up. A couple of years ago, I for sure would have
done it. That's when I announced it, and then I just ran out
of time. I just didn't have enough of it. But then also just
financially it would have been covered. It would have justified that I could do
a show and pay two other hosts. Right now I can That's where I
say, yeah, we are lower and just couldn't do that right now.
So that's where for me as somebody that hey, I'm not enjoying this,
and that's what I was enjoying last time, was Hey, Cody lost to
me. That was to get that was to get me back in there.
I thought it was a mistake. And now if they fixed the mistake,
like oh we are doing Cody and Roman, now it's like okay, sure,
it's that to your story. But I will be on the camp that
I don't fully buy that this was the full plan. I think they did
pivot. Bravo on them for pivoting and what I guess I should say in
case you're living under rock. They did a press conference and then Cody came
out and actually took the spot back and said he wants to fight Roman Reigns.
Wrestleminging DA DA didn't make much sense because he said I'm gonna fight you,
but not a WrestleMania Rome Reigns. It is scripted, so you always
have the character change your mind and go, oh, well I saw the
light or right, just changed my mind and this is what I want to
do now. It didn't make much sense. The press conference in a vacuum
to me is great. It's top tier stuff. When you try to factor
in the stuff they did Friday doesn't really work. It's an issue. But
all the stuff of I know some people were complaining about Seth being there and
be like, oh, he's not getting is like just doing stuff. It's
like, well, you know, it puts them in the spotlight, like
I guess, say a little bit, but it still makes them everybody will
rank him as the bottom tier person of the four, of course, but
he's still in that conversation. Then he's not just a way. It's not
just like, oh, we're not picking you, Okay, I'm gone.
He got into it. I know there's these rumors of Rock and Roman versus
Cody and Seth, which I hope happens. That's a great package, great
match. I don't know if that's a Mania match. Feels odd for a
tag match be happening a Mania with the Rock, but hey, if that's
gonna happen and they're gonna build a Rock and Roman, sure great. I
think I think that's great if they do the whole year's story like they did
with him and Sener, right. But yeah, I didn't do the cast
right away because I was ready to be like, I'm wwe and me have
been in a weird, very back and forth will they won't they sort of
thing, because, as I've said before, I stop watching around I think
it was twenty eighteen ish. I always forget because it's just like it's a
blank space now, right, It's just like I and it was odd.
It was very odd that for almost my whole life watching Monday Night Raw and
then SmackDown every week. SmackDown might be the one you'd miss in here and
there, but with I was like every Monday is watching that. Then eventually
just like just stop. I think it was just like I can't remember what
it was. If it was like a conscious effort. I think it was.
I don't know if it was a specific moment or show. Just like
I'm done, and if you know, I'm repeating it for people that have
listened, be for if you know it. I stopped watching Found New Japan,
Found the Elite. You know. I was following Cody already in his
independent career because I was always a big Cody Rhodes fan. And then whatever
it is, all Rose led him back WW and that's when I started like
tuning a little bit here. And I would of course for Payder Reviews,
WrestleMania, Summerslam's Roll Rumbles. I'd tune back in sure, but I wasn't
that big into it. Or i'd hear like, oh this is great match,
I'll go check that out, or a great story. I'd watch a
promo, but I was pretty checked out. If and Cody got me back.
And now with Punk, that really caught me back, but I still
have never made that jump to watching it full time. There's still a lot
of just WWE isms I'm not a fan of, and again if I love
story and promo as well too, but it's like there the wrestling at aw
is like top tier, like the actual match quality, right, and that's
where they will be having these great pay per view quality level matches on the
shows, where WW not all the time. There's a lot of you gotta
get through, right. So I still don't think it's perfect, but it's
definitely improved. But when they were doing Rock and Roman, to me,
that was just like, Okay, this for me is just it's just repeating
the same mistakes as before, and I don't want there to be a situation.
Luckily, it looks like it's happening right because everyone's like, oh,
we can do the Daniel Bryant thing. We can bitch and moan, complain
and tweet And I tweeted that we want Cody because I said, hey,
I'm done tweeting about this. I don't want to just complain about this wrestling
any season. I'm out. When the hashtag came around was trending, I'm
like Okay, I'll definitely add some you know, fuel of the fire.
If my one little tweet helps at all to get Cody that main event spot,
I will do it for my guy, you know. So it's the
thing of I was out of that point and I was just gonna Like I
said, I probably would have watched Mania, I think, but would have
been the thing that I probably would have. I would not have been that
invested or I definitely night want or stuff. But I've always been back and
forth, and that's why for me, it's just like the best story to
tell. I know, it's all about finishing the story, but that's what
I think is what I want to see with the company, right. So
I'm happy they got to where they're going with Cody and Roman. And I
loved the stuff they did at the Rock. I love the idea of Sure.
I know people have been like, hey, it's kind of stupid,
of it's stupid that, uh, what is the case that, Oh Cody
said something, Roman said something bad about Cody's dad, and then Cody says
something bad with Roman's grandpa and Rocks like, fuck you talk about my family.
It's like Roman was just there talking about your family. But like that's
the way it kind of to me, it's just kind of like almost like,
uh, no one can beat up my brother but me scenario right,
And it's like, oh, you can say shit about Dusty because whatever that's
Dusty. It's fun to say shit about my grandfather. Like to me,
the character feeling, it doesn't make sense if they're and they're already planning seeds
of talking about him being on the board and him trying to get this match,
they're planning seeds as like uh, like a power hungry rock, right,
So that's where it kind of works. He is more heallly and that's
where they're smart to do it. There's definitely rock fans. There were people
chanting Rocky. There's there's we want Cody g noe don't or Cody sucks.
There was, but most of the time it felt like a seventy thirty sweat.
They might have tried to be like, oh, what's but it was
definitely not fifty to fifty. Cody definitely had the majority. And I was
curiously kre are they gonna boo Rock when he's there in person? Because the
varied everything because Rock is very charismatic, he's very good so they booth it.
I think the Rock went with it very well, and I know people
have been joking about like this is the best acting he has been in his
career. Rock does have another level. That's why I want him to do
that. I hope that a twenty four movie happens with the Safti brother because
it's just like he has another gear. He just hasn't showed off much because
I fel like people said, this is what you want to do, this
is what they want to see you do, and I get it. That's
where the money is, right, So I just think it was the right
move to pivot, and I love that. Since Friday, it's been like,
you know, not fuck your Rome Rains, but it's like I'm coming
for you. It's you and your wrestle. I'm gonna kick your ass.
And the second they're put the family together, it feels like a very Mafia
good fellas, like okay, now we're back together, and it's kind of
like a we got to get rid of this guy so we can square off
and really decide this. And I like that, and I don't know,
it's unpredictable. Like we said about the tank teams, it's like do they
do Rock and Cody or Cody and Seth and Roman Rock? Some people sat
night want a mania, some people said Chamber, who knows. I think
that's a very fun thing and that's something that gets Seth into that upper echelon.
Now. I think he's definitely eats the pin. But whatever, Like
would he ask Seth would you rather be in that match and take the pin
or not being at all? I'm sure he'd want to be in it because
there's always a chance that someone mainstream tunes in to see this match to go,
I like this Cepharons guy, right, so whatever, or maybe Rock
or Roman someone takes the pin. I don't know. It's definitely not gonna
be Rock, and there's lots of options, right, I don't think this
is gonna be the case with people said like, hey, maybe Rock takes
over the fucking bloodline and that makes Cody the babyface that we want yet to
I think it's either the two rate ways of Rock is if there's no tag
team match, like Rock's playing like a long cong and he's here to fuck
over Roman like Mike Tyson into Michaels at fourteen, right, or they are
gonna be together but Roman's gonna do something that does embarrass the family, or
even something like maybe Roman loses the title and he blames Rock like he didn't
protect me enough. In my opinion, it's gonna lead to a Rock and
Roman scenario where Roman's beating down Rock and that's how they break up. Whether
it's a trick, whether it's they screwed each other over accidentally on purpose,
whether it wasn't you weren't there for me, whatever the reason is, I
think it will lead to Roman turning on Rock because I still think the money
is probably in the Rock being a baby face in that scenario if Roman,
because I agree that Roman, they're gonna turn face at some point and that
will be a money making thing. There's a lot of stuff you could do,
but I think you could maybe do that that was solo, and it's
just also Roma is a babyface. Is fun, but there's not much heat
to it when he's not gonna be around that much. Right, I would
have been fully fine if Roman was around all the time and they're like,
hey, we don't need a new guy and Cody because we got the guy
here in Roman, they're gonna make him a face. I'm not saying the
baby face has to be the head of the company. That's what Roman's been
doing. But I just mean that if he turns the baby face, if
they turn him babyface in he's part time, it'll be cool, but it
definitely won't have the same effect. Maybe he goes like many full time.
But that's why I just feel like the scenario is something breaks between Rock and
Roman. Roman gets that win as the heel down the line. And that's
the fun thing. There's lots of different routes you can go with this story,
right And if Rock was talking about, hey, the long game,
well that would be a long game of a story of them getting together then
breaking up all the way to next year for the lay ahead of the table.
Whatever it may be that I think is good shit. That's stuff that
and yeah, it's stuff. I get why they'd want to do Rock and
Roman as fast as you can. You never know Ross getting older. But
it's the same time, like you could have done it many times before,
and right now is the perfect time. You don't want to miss out the
window. Same Punk made that joke before, Right, where were we all
in twenty thirteen? And I've been here before, Right, let's answer these
questions. And I'll get back to that in a second. But Frank says,
I try to watch AW, I get lost. AW is odd,
no heels, no baby faces. They definitely have heels or baby faces,
like I know you might say in general, there's a lot of mix,
but there's definitely not no heels. Like Orange Cassidy is just the fucking guy
from uh oh god, what is that? What ont American Summer. He's
a good guy, that's chill, he's nice to his friends, and he
wins the titles like that's it. You know, MGF was clearly a piece
of shit until he wasn't like that thing where of course he says like he's
doing the Eddie Grayle thing right, he says like, I'm your scumbag.
But when he he's doing things still cheating things like that. But the same
thing as Eddie is like he starts to associate with different people. He starts
to be friend Adam Cole. You know, god, what the hell am
I forgetting? They claimed you might not know these people because if you don't
watch AW. But I'll disagree with that. Is there way more shades of
gray and AW. Absolutely they have a different crowd you have a crowd right
now where there's a guy that invaded a man's home and friend his child that's
getting cheered the crowd. I'm not trying to be like that guy AND's like,
oh, it's so cool. The crowd for aw is very similar to
Attitude era, where the bad guys are who we cheer and the good guys
are who we boo. That's that type of mentality. I think sometimes it
works, sometimes it doesn't, but I think for them it works because that's
good for that company to kind of be the more of the wrestler brand and
just cheer for like what's the wrestler you want to win? Right, So
there's definitely like layers of gray, but like to say, there's no heels
or baby face, it's like Edge has been there the whole time, and
he's been a baby face. You know, he's been like he did some
questionable things, like like like as a almost anti hero, but he's still
been a good guy. Right, Christian the past year has been a guy
that's been going around making fun of people's dead parents, clearly a heel.
So I can't agree with like the broad statement, but I get what the
sentiment means, Derek Ema says, I think it's interesting started the presser by
mentioning the tag match. Hogan and Pipe are WrestleMania one, yes, because
you could just go, oh, well, that's just the main event of
the first Wrestleman. Yeah, it is. But that makes sense if you
were to ask me. It's tough, right because if Rock's only wrestling once,
if he says I'm coming back for once, then of course you do
it Mania, and there's no other way to not have that be the main
event, especially if Rock's not. It'd be different if it was I'd say
they were doing Roman Rock versus Seven Cody, and then the next night was
like Rock Roman Cody triple threat. I would say that someone else may event
that night. It is gonna be like a little shitty in my opinion that
if they do the tag match, Cody and Roman are just gonna like made
him in both nights, you know, like that does kind of suck for
the town, Like that's the idea behind having two nights. But at the
same time, there's an argument and I I don't know where I am on
the Oscar one, but I agree on this one where for me, it's
tough because in WW terms, the WrestleMania main event, right, I would
say I can make an argument for Bianco versus Sasha is the greatest main event
of all time with what it meant, how it was done, the match.
I think it was pitch perfect, like one hundred and ten whatever you
want to say, right, I think if it's not one, it's in
that top three. The problem is also my method. To me, the
main event is still it goes on Sunday because that's the last one. That
to me is the match that if it was still one night, that would
be the last night or that'd be the last match. And to me,
the main main event is Cody versus Rome, but still is kind of like
a runner up, like you're the second biggest story. You're this loot,
so for that to happen that sucks. But like you can't tell, like
if the Rock's already going on Night one, he's already not versus Roman.
I don't think it's gonna be like, Okay, Rock, you want to
be the open or not. Like I will take Rock in a tag match
if that means not getting him in Roman this year again, and I'm somebody
really wants a match. There's tons of potential there. It was just the
timing of it, right, all the stuff same. A lot of us
want a Batista back in twenty fourteen. It was just the timing of we
didn't want him to pay for Daniel Bryant spot right. And that's where it's
tough for me where I stopped watching or I was gonna stop, and I
did four until now because I've seen both ways. I've seen the crowd turn
and then they go, yeah, let's get Daniel on that spot. Here
we go. And then I've also seen, yeah, we know, seeing
punk's really hot and he's the best in the company, but we're gonna do
seeing him rock too, not even seeing a rock seeing Punk, we're gonna
do seeing a rock too. So that's where it's tough for me. And
I felt bad because s Bubbs, you know GV guy in the chair,
Uh, he's just in the more, he's inter wrestling now he's starting to
get into it, and I feel like our discord probably me, but just
a lot of people are just like doom and gloom just because like if you've
watched w you've been here before where something really shitty happens and they don't change
it. You know, I told him this for years where there was that's
why I quit, because it was just a string of years where it's just
like the thing you go, man, I really hope that doesn't happen,
would constantly happen again and again. And he stuck with it because there's people
because he was said, He's like, oh, but I really like a
lot of these NXT people, so of course I'll keep watching. But that's
where it's like, that's where I was right, where it's like I grew
up with l Generico and Kevin Steen like all these people in roh and in
the Indies, and then to see them make the big lead, he's like,
oh awesome. And that's why there are people that of course like a
Punk, a Cody other people on aw as well, where it's like if
they jump, I will follow them. But and that's why I still would
watch, Like hey, when it was SETH versus Edge, I was not
watching the product, but I love Edge and I love Seth. So you
know, Tyler Black like, Okay, I'm gonna tune in to watch this
or the event. So that's where I get why you hang on because you
love the talent. But I've been through it so many times. So that's
why for me, I thought, for sure I changed my stance an hour
before just because a vibe I had and there was just something said by somebody
like hmm, that seems odd. But if you were to ask me,
I would have thought, like what the Rock said this morning, where oh,
when you get out there, you get the reaction, and then you
deal with after the reaction, you know, you know, just pivot be
based on the reaction, you go the story. Even though I feel like
they pivot on the reaction, it's good because somebody like go, oh,
yeah, cod Rock was getting cheered. Yeah he was. But Cody's clearly
the baby here, right, He's the guy guy. So for me,
that's where this has happened many times, been disappointed many times. So I
thought the Rock would have been stubborn and just gone through it and went,
hey, we're just gonna do Rock and Roman and I'm gonna get that money,
We're gonna get that bag, We're gonna do this. We can tell
it being successful. Whatever we saw many main events, Roman and Triple H
is definitely one right, Roman Brock too. At Mania, I was like,
fuck, like we're doing this again. And they had Roman loose like
many terrible times. So that's why I am more surprised now. I know
people have said, oh, the Brian thing happened ten years ago. Right,
it did, but there's so few Brian instances where that's where it was
always hard for me to completely buy it. But it looks like that's what
we're getting. Have they made sense of the story of Cody. No,
I'm sure he can just say he changed his mind and I'll go with that.
Whatever. It's fine, you know. And same thing with the Rock,
with him being a heel all he could do and even if he can't
do heel, it's with the family. But it's what I liked a couple
of years ago when Edge he came back to v and then he made Judgment
Day, which I thought was the wrong call. Judgment Day worked out,
but I just mean that them turning Edge, and he's even talked about this.
He's like, people missed me for years, thought my career is over.
They don't want to boo me, and I never ever want a boot
Edge again. He was one of He's a top ten wrestler for me,
and he was told, you ever wrestled again, Your paralyzed and we lost
that. There's no bone in my body that wants to boo Adam Copeland,
right, So I liked that when he came back. You know, he
was in the judgment day saying spelt the crowd being shitty and yet to all
this stuff right, and then they turned on him. He came back and
he said, you know, I was being a fucking asshole. I let
stuff get to my head and I'm really sorry for Please forgive me. Let's
move on. That's all the rock casts do say. Hey, this had
to do with my family. It's a very dynamic situation. Should I'm sorry
if I was an asshole, Very happy for Cody, but I still want
to kick Roman's ass them. Yeah, we love the rock again, right,
Like it's very easy on the rock side to get rid of. So
let's see some questions. I should have said it was taking the war,
but let's see. Uh, Derek says, it would be unfortunately Bailey and
low ar main event or I'm not low Man inventing Night one with Bailey winning
the Rumble. It's gonna happen, right. That precedent was set two thousand
and six, Raymond Steiro won the Rumble and they were you know, they
weren't last. Honor Taker won the Rumble, he wasn't last. Seeno won
the Rumble. He wasn't last. Finally, so it was like a three
year break. And then Randy Warnon won the Rumble and he was last.
Like they it's very same thing. Who won the Rumble? And Oh Edge
won the Rumble, he's last. Like I'd love to see the people.
God I should bring that, let me bring that out. Let's do Roller
Rumble Winter. I'm gonna answer to your guys's other questions, but I just
want to see Royal Rumble winners since the brand split? How many have main
event WrestleMania because I completely agree that for me, it should be Bailey and
EO. It sucks because it's so tough because Rhea to me is top three
in WWE maybe and wrestling overall. Just reaction wiz you hear that Pop Day.
She's everything. She's so smart with these like what I love is she's
doing the right amount of sex appeal in these interviews. There's these guys,
there's this one interview going around. This guy's like, oh, you can't
break me, and she does this like face where she looks her, you
know, lips her something and then he breaks like she's doing the sex peel
thing, but it's also in like a fun way. She's having fun with
it. It doesn't feel like dirty, like too much for kids, and
also just like a sleazy like Attitude era thing. So I thought the answer
was, you gotta have Ream Becky main event because that's gonna be a hot
match RhE and Becky. Wow, let's do this. But for me,
I would rather Bailey because Bailey's putting so much hard work, she deserves it,
and she did win the Rumbles, so I would love her and I
would that would be my choice for a night one out of all this.
Again, I'm not saying I can belie them going to the Rock, being
like, hey, you're gonna be middle of the car no Rock in a
tag match. He will get to main event. So for me, I
would love to see Bailey main event, but I don't think it's gonna happen,
and with Ria, I think it will happen. It sucks because she
won the Rumble last year, and I understood why the tag team title had
the main event that was you know, Sammy and Kobs Zuso's it was just
it was the better story, right, But then I still think Charlotte and
Oh god, Ria had the best match that weekend. I think Ria will
main event to WrestleMania. It does have to happen. I think she will
go on last and I think you do that next year. We need do
Ria and Bianca. So I'm gonna come back to that Rumbell question a second.
But Frank m says, if sef and a tag match makes me think
Seth might be more hurt than they told us. Maybe, but the current
rumor right now is he would wrestle the tag match and then he's gonna defend
the night after. So they're going from like you're hurt, you might just
be kind it close to wrestling, and to like, you want to work
two nights. So that's the problem Frank, that that's the current rumor going
around that he's gonna be working two nights. So I don't know RJ,
and I said, see you man, I'm still wondering how Rock figures into
all this, How they'll explain why Cody gave up a spot and decided to
take it back. Like I said, I think they'll just do the like,
because it still doesn't make sense for him just to come out and say
this is bullshit. It's like you were the one that gave Rock with the
matchic imagine if let's say, RJ, it you and me, and you
know we both know Dave. Right. So let's say I win the Rumble
and I'm going to fight film Junkie and you come to me and pitch and
you say, for some reason, I really need to fight film Junkie this
year. And I go, okay, you know what the spot is yours,
and I make the most announce what Cody did. I'm not saying that
was right. That made Cody look like a dumb baby face. Yet I
prefer this right of him going this is bullshit, fuck you too. But
still I say, you can fight Dave a WrestleMania. RJ okay, And
then the next week I go, you know what, actually I want to
have it back. And me'd be like, this is bullshit, RJ.
The stupid thumbs up thing, bullshit, RJ, why are you taking my
match? You'd be like, dude, you gave me the match. Now,
maybe they'll do some more stories of like he was. And I think
what they might do is with them hinting with the Rock being a part of
the board and Tiko, they might say Cody might be like I was pressured
into it. There is ways around it. Did they explain it here?
No, they did not explain it at all. And how Rock if they
do the tag match that that already explains itself. As far as like how
Rock figures into this. It just they did a press conference Roman Rock gone
in it too, a Seth and Cody and they want to fucking fight.
That's easy enough, right. There's a ton of directions. I could go
in Rock being evil boss board member, making Cody's like harder, or inserting
him in the match, either as a competitive forester. Yeah, exactly.
The Rock is that I don't know if you want to use it too much.
I don't think he should be like the Vincecuitman character because I don't think
he'll be around. But there's there's like levels of that you could They could
play at the fact Rock told Cody give a spot or you get fired.
Yeah exactly, Like I was just saying, so you see, you asked
the question, but you got there. There is ways around it. The
problem is we've just been used to w W many years, they don't do
that. They just say ah, fuck it never mind, you know,
like like that's the thing where he's just like, okay, you just accept
that, right. No company's perfect with their booking WWAW New Japan, but
WWA for many years because Vince, he would just his if you were to
hear the reasoning he the rumor was he would say, well, people aren't
gonna remember that far back. And that's something where I did end up liking,
you know, falling in love more New Japan and AW and AW still
at times does this better is they don't treat their audience as like idiots.
They might hint the round and do stuff, but the whole like, well
they won't remember what happened weeks ago, Like awill refer to things that happened
like a year ago and be like, oh shit, they're tying that together.
Ww I think is with Triple H will get to that point more.
But for many years they're just like Vince will be like, ah whatever,
they won't care or they won't remember, so let's just not answer that.
It's like, what like we do, like I still remember shit when I
was like six ten years old from wrestling, you know, like, if
it's a big impact, good or bad, we'll remember it. So but
yeah, I guess the tag match, and I'm down for that tag match.
As I said before, my perfect scenario would have been tag at Chamber
and you do Cody and solo at Night one with Rock and Roman Night one,
and then Cody at Night two with Roman because then they've both wrestled twice.
Right. I still, as a Cody Mark would love it if Roman
were to beat Rock and then Cody beats him, right, because there's that
progression there. But I'm still fine if it's hey, we're gonna do Rock
and Roman next year, great, give Cody the ball. I think it's
time to show it. He's been one of the best lines. You two
are fighting for the head of the table, but you're not the ones who've
been cooking for the past years. And it's true. Since Cody came back
to WWE, he's kind of felt like the main character. I don't think
that happened right away, but I felt like that happened after Helen Cell he
did that Pac Terry came back when the Rumble. I feel like since then
he has been kind of the main characters, right the same way like when
the Elite signed, they're like like, of course we're gonna say, like
where the main characters, And to me, they are like the Bucks hang
in Kenny Like there's tons of other people that have gone that level, but
they're always they started that. And with Cody, I don't really know why.
For me, I understand why, but I think it's just that generally
people like the character, like the person, you know. Like that again,
look at it today where Biggie is telling the story of why he wants
Cody to be the guy he wants, a guy with values, he wants
the guy that win. Brody Lee passed away him and Bigie gone a car
for five hours on Christmas Day to drive just to tell his son that,
hey, your father's passed away, and they were there for him like those
and Biggie we always hear that, right, great people Like That's where I
think people have been like, oh, the fans will turn on them,
and maybe will happen with Cody. But I think there is an earnestness and
that's where it's not like, oh, some guy's a baby face and they're
trying to feel like a really good person or you know, that's not their
nature, the whole idea that Stone Cold says, your character is supposed to
be you turned up to a hundred. That's Cody Rhodes. Goy. Rhodes
is a good guy and his gimmick is he's a really good, honorable guy
trying to do us right. Sure there's gonna a time where you can turn
him heel on stuff, but I think that we've not had that literally literally
since Hogan. And maybe it's also just because the way the world's fucking right
now, everywhere crazy, it's just nice to have like a baby face like
he's a good guy and I want to root for the good guy. And
maybe it's because people love his dad. It's definitely a coumbole things, but
just feels like he's the guy right And with Punk, that's where people brought
last week, where with the Cody thing with Punk, of course mainstream people
liked him, but that was he was heavily the IWC guy in twenty thirteen,
right, he was the Internet Wrestling's favorite guy. With Cody, he's
not that he is to extent, but he's I guess he is right now.
But I mean in the sense that he's not just that got kids also
love him, the you know, the women, the man, everyone between.
He's also the general audiences guy. So it's not like that's where for
me too, where if you were gonna do Rock and Roman, you have
Rock win the Rumble and you go on. That's where with twenty thirteen,
when Sina won the Rumble, it fucking suck because like May, we're going
to rock and see it too. But you go, well, that's their
direction, we're going buckle up. When Cody won the Rumble and then I
was like, well, actually not going that way. That's where it's like,
Okay, terrible move, terrible booking and stuff, right. And I
know there's been who knows, I don't believe it. There's been tons of
people said, oh this was a work from that moment, they've pivoted,
top tier scoopers all of a different story. I to me think they didn't
pivot. I know people go like, oh, they won the Rumble,
what was gonna happen? I just think that they did that and Rock and
TKO want to go a different way and they're like, we'll deal with it.
Maybe they're gonna do Cody, Seth and Punk. I don't know,
but I don't care whether it was a pivot, whether it was the plan
all along. Good Now he has to win. If he doesn't win,
I'm not gonna say I'll never watch WWE ever again, but I don't think
I'll ever be in the sense where I have a chance where I don't even
know if I'll get into a weekly, but I want to. I love
ww I watched it all my life up until twenty eighteen, you know,
and then it just got so shit. I love a lot of talent.
I would love to watch this product again, and this to me gives me
a reason that shows like, Okay, it is a new era, and
it is we're trying really new era of course with Triple H and we're going
different route and we're trying different things. If it's like Roman wins again to
extend the streak and he wants to defend the town against Rock, I really
yeah, I would be out because it's just like I'll tune here and there
for I'll watch a good match. I always see a good promo, but
that will be the straw of me ever getting back and as a full time
fan, and that that would happen last year right for me, it was
like I was close, and it wasn't like I've never gonn watch the W
again. It was just I disagree with the move. And I still don't
know because I think all of us, in my opinion, that's where I
hope him right, all of us, just like, yeah, Cody's gonna
win. So I don't know if the pop's gonna be as big as before
as I talked about last year. I told you I was in the crowd
for HBKA one and two. I was in the crowd for rock SNA one
and two, and both times the sequels, the crowd was not there as
much as the first one because we all knew the result of said match,
right, And I feel like this one we all know, but it's tough
because it's like we all know, so maybe the reaction will be less,
but if it were to go the other way, it'd be a disaster,
right, so hard, he says, Cody is closely we've had a senior
level guy in years. I agree, because Roman it took a very different
route to get there, right, Like he's he's almost in a different category
when you talk about the guys, and not because he's a heel, just
like that rise with something else. It took so long, and it took
a group and a whole bigger story. So I don't think he's like in
the same category as a Hogan Rock Austin Sina. You know, it's almost
like he's built his own category. Maybe that is just top heels, right,
but I don't know. It's a different case with him, A says
or Franks's AW fans turn on Cody, but that's because ADAVI fans are two
inside baseball, yes and no. I think with that, they just did
a lot of the Cody verse stuff, and I think it was whoever idea
it was, I don't know if it was Cody's or Tony Kahn's. They
shot themselves in the foot by doing the storyline that Cody couldn't challenge for the
title, because if you go that first year of AW, go back to
when he was versing Wardlow in the cage, he does that moon so he
cuts that promo after he was the top baby face wrestling, not AW.
In wrestling, there was no hero good guy that had the reception that promos
like Cody did. He was fucking on fire and the crowd was with him.
Those AW crowds were super loud, and they did turn because I think
it was a sense of they had nowhere to go with him, and they
just kept spinning their wheels by introducing And the other problem they did, too
was they kept putting him. And this was and I am guilty of this.
I said this amily all the time, where every time a new person
would come in, Sting, Malchi, Black Andrawde, every time they come
in, it would be like right away or shortly after their debut, they'd
get paired with Cody, and I was like, this is not a good
thing and it will backfire because it is feels very much like Triple H where
you know, I guess Rock for some first but Sting, I can't remember.
There was a string of people that kept coming in and Triple A Chip
getting the big match, and it's like, you don't want that. And
I always said like, because he was an e VP if that man,
Code needs to stop doing this shit because people are gonna turn. They like,
because it felt like anytime someone big was in there, well they had
to fight Cody and he had to get the first shot. But then it
came out, at least to his words, that that was not his plan.
He didn't always want to be the stepping stone or the door opening guy.
And that's where I go, Okay, that to me was a TK
thing if they mishandled it. But that's where the whole you can't challenge for
the world title. He got so popular, and then where do you go?
Right, Like, do you have no where to go? Now?
It like you can't win the main story he was working on that heel turn,
that which was that's how Cody's smart, right. His heel turn was
he's getting booed and he's telling the crowd I will never turn heel, and
the crowd boost and he goes back and says that all was two four like
it was to like be behind the fourth wall or whatnot fourth wall breaking two
three stuff like that. No, that shit for like wrestling fans like myself,
that shit was great. That's like because his idea was if I turned
heel, they're just gonna cheer me, so I gotta be an uber babyface,
an uber WWE baby face. And it's like, yeah, that's the
fucking way to go. So I would have still loved to see Cody in
like one more year in AW. I still like to see Cody and punkin
AW because I did enjoy their promo a few weeks ago, but the problem
was they were shackled a little bit. They couldn't talk about everything. They
had to like jump around and tiptoe run things, or they referred to stuff
of context that didn't make any sense. You know, as I said before
Punk being like, yeah, I'm more American dream than you. Cody's Hohle
gimmick is I'm not the American dream of the American nightmare. So it didn't
make like, it didn't make any sense. And then Cody just like cut
the same promo he did in AW but like half because he couldn't mention haf
the shit. So that's what it's like. There's a few things I wish
still happen there, but uh, Cody works here, Offsie, Right,
So yeah, we'll see. To me, I will be I don't know
if I'll be watching weekly because I need to. I need Cody get that
win before I can commit to really getting back in the full pond because I
don't because that, to me, is where a story goes. It's the
double of Cody's story needs to go there, should have last year, but
it needs to go there, and Roman with the title has no story.
He defended about three times, right. He defended once against j which he
didn't need the title. His other match was he was on tag team match
for against Kao and Sammy. Uh. He didn't need the title for that.
Uh. And then I'll see versus La Knight and then did the fatal
four way, right, But you could do other things there in Saudi Arabia
he converse someone else in the whatever rumble. You could have put him in
there or not whatever. Save the dates for something else. But I feel
like everyone's gotten tired of the Someone gets really close and USO interferes, they
get taken out, so hits a spike ending shortly thereafter. I think it
the title run a portion has lost its juice and the stuff you can do
with Roman to be big since last year and especially now don't need the title
at all. There's nothing about that that needs the title. So I'm very
happy that that's the route we're going. It seems like, Uh, I'm
down for more webs and weaves as long as Night two ends with Cody versus
Roman. I'll even take Night one if they have to do Cody and Roman
Night one. The Rock and Roman Night two. Sure, just as long
as weet Cody Roman and you get Cody being him clean as a sheet,
no interference unless it's equaling out the bloodline, no versing him after he's had
a match, none of this shit. He needs to beat him fair and
square. He needs to just he needs because that's how you do it,
right. Look at all the people that became the guy other than the Rock
he did. He did win his very first title by cheating, but very
different situation because like he just almost kind of came out of nowhere, like
Stone Cold was the guy that's like, oh he got the Rock as well,
so well, so yeah, we'll see. Let's see Fry. Let's
see if after Cody wins, if Dustin comes out, that would be cheiron.
I'm not sure if that can happen though, No, I don't think
so. I think there could have been a moment because if like they both
take shots at each other. But I think which I definitely understand once it
came out w was trying to like contract tamper with some people. That was
a time where I know people use the memes of Tony saying I'm not gonna
take the shame more. But like that is a fucking shady thing to do
to contract contract tamper with people and try to like whether it's offer them higher
money or try and get them out of their contract. So I think before
that there could have been a time where there could have been a call and
say, hey, this this is a big moment. You know, could
we you know, do an exchange to do something. But I think with
that contract tampering that which I fair enough, I would understand why Tony's gonna
be like, nah, fuck you all, I'm not gonna help you out,
but you never know, it'd be great. But at the same time,
it's like, it's still more Cody's story, right. I know people
want in there because the family and everything, but and that'd be great,
but it's still Cody's story. It's not Dustin's. It's not even Dusty's,
it's Coeyster. So that's why I'm still fine with him doing this solely,
right, So no pun intended on the solo factor. So we will see.
Uh yeah, let's take an ad break and then we'll talk about some
Disney stuff. If you have any more resting questions, you can shoom over.
I'll still answer because I know the chat's always a bit delayed, but
we'll talk about the Disney Investors Day and what they revealed and if it's gonna
save them. I don't know if it saves the right war, but we'll
be right back. So yesterday Disney had their quarterly earnings call. They revealed
a bunch of stuff. They after price raises. There what is it?
They're god, there's their subscripture rate went down. I think that's just a
common theme now as far as like, hey, I was somebody that I
definitely thought Netflix. I thought netflixil be gone by now, but I thought
Disney would be the top one. They weren't. I do think that's some
like a lot has to do that. People got it and those shows with
Star Wars and Marvel, a lot of them aren't the greatest quality. So
people went, why should I subscribe this or I'll subscribe watch a bunch in
the future. I don't need to be paying monthly for this. I always
have it because I like the shows, do the podcast, got the kids,
so I'm on there for life. But I get why people don't write,
and I think that's where unless you have a mega hit show, which
is really hard in the streaming era people are gonna bounce and leave it.
So that's where they went down. And I don't I think as we're talking
about because the first story right Malana Molana II is coming out this November.
The war going around from All the Scoopersos, All the Scoopers is that was
going to be the series that was gonna be on Disney Plus. And they
shift in went that way, and I think that's a good idea. I
War machine, fake movie. But if they are trying and they think they
can do it them doing a series versus the movie, you do the movie
route. Now, you know, streaming has shown that I'm not saying it
loses money. Of course they make money off it, but it all comes
down to the projects and doing those avenger budget level shows that's clearly not getting
the subscription rate. I still think like it's still money in their pocket.
Of course they lose use, but there's still money in their pocket. They
have to do little for it. All you got to do is support the
content, right, and that's where if you're doing those big shows that they're
not really paying off. And it'd be different if they did Secret Invasion,
what is like five million dollars more than an Avenger or something like that,
and they're like, hey, it costs a lot, but look at all
the subscription rates, look at all the watch time for a secret Invasion really
paid off. It's not right. So that's why I talked about this couple
weeks some trast I told you talked about this. I talked about a bunch
the whole idea of hey, they might do more street level hero stuff like
Netflix. That's why Netflix did it because that's cheaper. The stuff you got
to spend the biggest pudget on is minus skill compared to Shee Hulk or Moonnight,
like right, So that's where I think the right you go. I
think the idea like almost like what they did with that go the spotlight where
you don't have to watch their MCU stuff. That's a good idea. Of
course you can go and tie some things together, but I think that's the
best route. But I just don't think they're gonna they need another WandaVision,
but they almost need like a Wanda vision that's multi season, you know,
something that's gonna keep with people. Same thing as far as like it's tough,
right, Because I talked about this with Katie because she's a big Percy
Jackson fan, and I don't know. I still don't know, Like as
Bubs you're talking in the discord a couple weeks ago, like oh yeah,
I know a couple of watching her life. I've still people with Disney.
Plus, I don't know anybody in my personal life that watches that show.
So I'm like, hey, I'm not saying this describes are fake. I'm
not saying that. But that's where they tout this, right, They're like,
it's the biggest Disney Hulu premier. Yet they tout all these numbers and
success for Percy Jackson. We're doing a season two, but the subscription rates
down, so like when Katie, and that's where it's like it's tough because
kp oh, I think this will be huge. It could be the next
Harry pot you know, big fan base, lots of books. I get
that, but I go, I just don't see the hype. Then we
get these numbers. It's like, oh, look at all this, lots
of people are watching it. Great, Maybe I was wrong. And then
the subscription rate comes out one point for whatever, a million drops like,
well people don't like Percy Jackson. That much, you know, at least
one point formula and not enough to like get any new subscriptions as far as
like balancing that out right, So it's tough. So I understand the pivot
towards box office. And with Moana, that was the idea. It was
a series, and even Dwayne Johnson wasn't in it. Now it sounds like
the rumors are pushing back the live action remake so they can do this.
Dwayne Johnson's gonna be added Tomana too, So we'll have to see what copy
paste confetti style that's it. If it's kind of like you could see now
and just take out all the stuff, it will be interesting. But I
think this is the right move. Hopefully the workers and everything are getting worked
fairly. It's not you know, rushing them trying to get producted out.
Don't want that. That's not the business I want, right, So,
sense I just hope the Maana show was not something like the Utopia show or
Big Hero six show that would have made uh that they would have not made
good movies, absolutely right. Z Utopia is just like skits, you know,
anthologies, and then Big Hero six. I still enjoyed that, but
I agree with you it's that like Forky asks a question. Even Doug Days
was like that Doug Days. Though for me it's just more charming because that,
to me is like, that's what I want. Z Utopia want more,
Big Hero six, I want more. If it's like hey, Doug
Days, is ever see a day see an adventure that Carl and Dugg are
going through, That's a perfect show for that. And even then they gave
it like an ending where he goes on the last like a new date with
a lady, Like it's still almost had like a themetrical ending. The metrical
I think that I don't enough for gott Is that a word? Is it
not? People tell me the chat? But either way, it felt like
it had a cohesive story ending to it. So I don't think it's gonna
be that. But we don't know. Right If it is just a bunch
of segments put together, absolutely not that will not do good. But but
at the same time, though, it's better than nothing, right, And
I think what they've shown is from these big productions, we're losing money.
So is it better to put out this stuff on Disney Plus and maybe get
some people to tune in or maybe a couple of subscribers, but you could
lose money on it or the theatrical run, and even if it makes half
what Mwana made, you still made money. And then it's gonna go on
Disney Plus anyways, right because unfortunately audience has got trained to think it was
like a month after it's not anymore. But that's what people have been trained,
so they're like, oh, I'll wait, So I think you go
with the sure bet money right now, and I think Mwana will do well.
And that's kind of the overall question right with. And I have seen
a lot of worry because even Mike's question, it all depends what it is.
But I do want to play at least history teacher for a second.
Of course, a lot of those Disney thematic thank you thematic ending not thematic.
I don't know what the fuck the matter is. That sounds like some
math I would have failed superad Mike, thank you a thematic ending. People.
There's tons of bad straight to DVD Disney sequels, right, but people
forget that Toy Story Too was conceived as that, and it's the same thing,
and it wasn't until they saw it, and I don't know if it
was the finished product but they saw it near the end or middle at some
point. They just saw it. Then when we can't, like we can't
release this on that Now, that's a different reason, right, because that
was them seeing it for quality. This isn't an air where Disney needs to
make money. Hopefully, it is that we're still it's like, hey,
this is good enough, Like let's turn this into a movie. That's what
I hope. So it can't happen. We can't be in the experience.
We can be in a comeback story. So I don't know. I can't
hold my breath until we get more details of what exactly it was supposed to
be, you know, because like if it's, like Mike said, a
anthology like show, then absolutely not. That to me does not work as
m wanan too. You might get some money out of it, sure,
but as a movie doesn't work. But that's what they did today. So
I'm just gonna rapid fire and this will be an overall thing, right because
my whole topic here is are these ips going to make a comeback? Are
they gonna make a comeback? They're they're here, I mean in the sense
that Disney's clearly they're still hurting, right, they're still successes, but they
had lost last year with Wish and Captain Marvel and An m Coonomania and The
Jones Decidialodony, like they had multiple movies that disappointed or bombed not good.
We are way far out of the like twenty nineteen. We have seven billion
dollar movies. We're fucking rolling in it. We're past that, right.
I don't think we can never get there, but I think they're at least
trying to get to. Hey, in the top ten, because let's even
pull it up. Top ten ten box Office twenty twenty three, because I
know the top three aren't Disney. So let's see here. Good for Wonka,
a movie that I completely wrote off. Like I said, I thought
you were not into and that's where, hey, dress, I can tell
you wrong. Shit sometimes is this? I think this is it? Oh?
I don't know. Come on, why did people not just have this
out here? This number? I see world Wide Box Office two three?
Here we go. So okay, So top ten Barie, Super Mario,
Oppenheimer, Gardens, Galaxy Volume three, Fast X, Spider Man, Cross
Spiers, Wonka, Little Mermaid, and Dead Reckoning Part one. Now they
still an elemental and Elemental, so they have three, and then ant Man
was four would be their fourth. I guess it wouldn't been. It's at
eleven, so it's close there, right, So they have three. That's
still respectable, right, But you look at the numbers. It's also because
it's lower, right, Elemental four ninety six, little more Mermaid five sixty
nine. Now, there is an argument that that is just the dorm now,
and it could be right. It could be that those are your hits
and the odd ones get to the post seven hundred, maybe even a billion,
but those are the odd ones, right. I don't think they want
to be the odd ones. I still think they want to have a pure
Marvel Studios MC movie also hit a billion, because that's not happened since uh
Endgame, which is just kind of strange to think about. But I think
just in general, they don't want their brand movies to be their movies in
general not to be doing good, and that's why they released all the shits.
So let me go down the list here. So Mawana it's coming out
this November. We want to we'll see. From a personal note, I
guess we were gonna see them the theaters, but I'm very happy because a
little least so now because you're start to grow up. But my second child,
Logan, was absolutely obsessed with Mahana. Loved it was. We had
multiple ma Wana baby toys and stuff like. I'm very excited she was live
when that came out. I'm very excited to see this on a big screw
with them, just like this weekend. Knock on wood because my youngest is
starting to feel a little but uh, they're putting turnarm theaters. For some
people of that might a big but for us, that was a big deal.
They loved that movie and I love that movie and it was during COVID,
so I'm excited to go see in the theaters with them. So for
me, I'm stoked by this because I love the big screen. I love
going If you don't want kids, then it doesn't matter. But if you
love, if you have kids or you want kids and you love movies,
man, and as long as your kids also like the movies, to go
in to the theater getting popcorn, see their face, it's a fun time.
Man. I love doing it echoes what my parents did with me.
It. I love doing that. So the fact that we'll get to do
that because We still do that home. We do movie nights and stuff,
but it's not the same way you're like in the theater. So I'm excited
for that. A z Utopia gonna release twenty twenty five. They didn't give
it a date, but fuck, like that year is getting fucking just stuffed
up. Oh they did, sorry, November twenty six, twenty twenty five.
Let's see for showing here. Let's go twenty twenty five, because I
know right now Batman's October. I'm doing quotations because we'll see right now.
They got Blade on the seventh, Wicked Part two on the twenty sixth in
z Utopia, so that's the double. I hope people are like, oh,
y'all look out for Wicked. You do, But like I draft a
Wicked. Oh that's Wicked Part two. One. That comes down to if
part one is good, because part one is sucks, and you don't gonna
worry about part two. I think Wicked two can be big, but I
don't think it's like in lieu of oh, well, only one can do
big. I'm not saying it's gonna be a Barberenheimer situation, but I still
feel like the audiences are different enough that Zutopia two can do well. I'll
wait to Wicked one once I hear about it, and maybe i'll watch it
home. I won't see in theaters. If that's still family friendly kidnough,
then maybe I'll take it back, but I don't know. And then after
that, you got Avatar three in the Smoshball SquarePants movies, so that month
is stacked. But so you got that coming out in Zootopia two, you
got Iigre saying the output of content being reduced at Marvel Studios with some folks
and with some focus on stronger franchise as the call is, I'll just leave
that. So he was just saying they're gonna do less focus on quality and
they're gonna focus more on the big stuff. We've heard that before, right,
there was we it's all scuttle about, right, But there was many
rumors before, like fig, he's not even thinking about the X Man,
that's gonna be passed the Multiverse song and yet da da da, And then
last year we heard hey there, look they're talking writers. Now, maybe
they're getting ahead of the game, right, But at the same time,
it's like I believe that's why I still say, you know, war Machine,
fake movie, not a real movie, not gonna happen. To me,
That's not one of the stronger franchises. To me, some of the
other projects, like even Wonder Man or Vision Quests. I love vision and
I want to see Vision quests, and especially we get like plays of the
Tom King Vision. But there's certain things where you go look at and Okay,
if we're doing the strong franchises, is this one of them? And
there's a few of them coming up that I think definitely not. And I
think this is them saying that's gonna happen, and he's definitely them saying as
well that in a few years it will be a soft free boot. But
again, that to me is relying on ip right. Lemon Urana is not
coming back from one to two. Cool? Uh, Mandalurin Grogu's gonna release
twenty twenty six. So I was wrong about that because I thought for sure
it was gonna film releasing the May slot for Fantastic four, because I thought
Fantastic four would get bumped to November, and then you know, for May
the fourth, it's the two days before Mandalorian Grogu would take that because I
think they're supposed to shooting in June, but guess not. I gres said
all this will kick off the new phase, a new slate, So yeah,
twenty twenty six. Not sure when I'm gonna still stick with May unless
it's like a really long shoot and December feels like a long time because like,
what are you gonna put all those shows on hold? I just feel
that you gotta have it out in a timely manner. Also just so people
who care, right, because that's the biggest thing. But that's coming out
twenty twenty six. Froze and Threes coming out to twenty twenty six, along
with Toy Story five. Toy Story one of my fair franchisees films all time,
but I just five. I don't think is needed here. But that's
been the big thing rights and you got tears with me and I'll get to
do that, but with her for the next three years. There's a couple
like Elo and stuff. There's a couple what is it fresh new ip stuff,
But primarily this was a big focus on next two years sequels or big
characters. So like to me, I consider Blade like a big enough,
like a strong franchise, and is it gonna work? I don't know,
because you could argue that you had the Marvels sequel to a billion dollar movie,
you had a couple of Bixar movies they didn't do well. You had
Indiana Jones, the Last Hurrah, Harrison Ford that didn't do well. So
that's where, like I get it. If you're looking at hey, if
we have money and we're doing not as hot as lately, do we invest
in brands that are for sure work before, or do we do new brands
that might be cheaper but they could take off. What would I do?
I really don't know. My I would say like, oh, a mix
of them, but clearly they don't want to do that because I feel like
they feel like a mix got them in a situation. I don't think that's
it. But I also don't want them just to pick stuff based on which
law studios do. It's been out there before, of hey, this is
the amount of impressions that iron Man gets, so we should really reboot iron
Man. It's like if they come in and they're doing the soft reboot and
they go, I've got a perfect story for a new iron Man, great
do it, But I don't want to be money driven. But it's a
business. All these are products, right, Everything that needs to be sold
is a product. Say like even when our movie comes out, that's a
product. Right. We put our fucking hard and sold to it. We
poured it into it. And literally, if you read the movie, which
I hope you do, or rent it next year or buy it next year,
all that money we make is gonna go into budget for the next movie
and for next year and stuff and all that things. Right, that's the
same thing as a big corporation like Disney. It goes indoor stuff, maybe
a bit if it goes too much in IRIS pocket. But the question is
is it gonna work. I'm like, a, I don't know. It's
a stupid answer because I come a podcaster, so I don't want to post
a question like what's the case? I know, I don't know, and
then I move on. I lean to no turning iris, No, I
lean to know. But I mean more so in the fact of that's not
just the puer answer. I don't think because you're announcing all these sequels,
all these are gonna hit. I think it's still gonna come down to timing.
It's gonna come down to marketing. It's gonna come down to reviews,
of course, and word of mouth, like look at all bet right,
excuse me? That movie was den the water open a weekend. People liked
it, kept going back to it, seeing it the same way as last
year. I talked about or sorry for the pre for next year or this
year. Fuck this year in the summer. I get it because kids are
off, but there's like three four kids. He's all coming out with a
couple of weeks of each other. You're gonna eat each other other than like
despicably before you know. That's where it comes down to release strategy, strategies
and to stuff. So god, I'm tripping on my word so I gotta
take a drink of water before I trip more. It's getting late. It's
almost gonna assume midnight wrapping up anyways here after this one will do my rankings
and then whatnot. Superdbank says Frozen three is as safe as better than all
highest grossing animated movies. Yeah, out of what was announced, absolutely the
safest bit of all. Disney has Avatar, clearly, but yeah, I
would have said Toy Story as well. But the buzz light Year thing hurt.
But it's a question of is the whole gang back. If it's the
whole gang is back, then I think for like Toy Story five still is
a potential to be very big as well too. I think that's a safe
bet, and I think they will bring them back, and that will be
unfortunate because I don't think the story calls Ford as well. Aquaman two is
still swimming. Yeah, it's still making money. It's still chugging along,
right, so that can happen now, aqaban not gonna make a billion dollars
like the first one, so I'm sure Warren Buzz is very disappointing that,
but you gotta take what you can get, right, So out of all
these like let me go back to as far as and also they confirmed that
there's a new slate and apparently the Slight had Daredevil out for this year,
which maybe, but I think it's definitely near the end of the year.
But like Frozen two and Toy Story five, for me, Toy Story five,
I'm still gonna say it's a safe bet. It's not just Buzz,
It's not still just like after COVID. I think those are the two safest
bets. Let's see here or some other ones Utopia, billion dollar movie.
People loved it, but I still feel like that could be one where people
go, ah, I don't know if I need a fallow up and go
from there right or some of these other slates inside out to let's see what
inside out. I know that's not that's this year out next year, but
still just curious inside out. Let's just go, let's see the box offices
of that. People do love that movie on emotions, but that also might
be eight hundred and fifty eight. Oh, they were pulling the numbers there.
I don't think it's gonna do that. I don't think it's gonna do
that, but I think it will be profitable. But yeah, I think
most of it's safe stuff. But they announced that next year on the slate
is Fantastic four and Captain America no Thunderbolts, which is interesting. So and
then Thunderbolts is filming before at four, so I wonder if that's part of
the like, well, we feel stronger in F four, so let's for
sure get that out next year, and Thunderbolts will come when it can,
because I don't think it's gonna do that. Well Thunderbolts. I'm excited for
it, but I don't think it's gonna blow the roof off the box office,
so yeah, we'll see. So do I base question. Do I
think it works a just a black and white tragy? No, I think
there's a chance, And I get why they do it. And if you
want to go, hey, we're down out, put your faith in stuff
that's worth before understandable, understandable. But that's not just like the answer,
right, it's not just a quick fix. So uh to where Mike says
if Toy Story does not reach a quality of the others could hurt it,
whereas Frozen is gonna do well no matter the reviews or reactions. Hmmm.
I think I could agree with you in that sense, and then where I
might push back. And it depends how you feel about this, but I
think that I've talked to enough people that agree. I think Toy Story four
might have already hurt the quality now for me, much like Lord of the
Ringstree, Toy Store one, two, three are ten tens, so it's
very tough to match that. So if you ask me, oh, does
it hurt the quality, well, of course, because I think they're all
like perfect movies. Wherefore I do not, you know, I think there's
enough feel that do not feel that way about before. I might feel that,
Okay, they did the last toy story movie, right, They never
said that, but that was like what the marketing felt like. They did
their last one, and then they're like, well that was actually the end
of Annie's journey. Here's here's one but Woody and I was like, okay,
this must be the last one. Right. They don't say that,
but you just kind of get the vibe that it didn't do that well or
sorry, toy Sturf wod did well, but then like you do light Year
that didn't do well, so you go, okay, Toy Store is last
one. So I feel like there could be a sense of toy surf.
I like, well, let's say it's like, well, we're gonna end
buzz a story. I think people might be fatigued out of like this is
the end line for the toys. Gonna be sad that doesn't work anymore.
I still think the best way to do it is there's some old toys,
get some new toys, create newcast characters. Then you can go do a
bunch of sequels, whether it's with Woody Buzz or not. Right, and
I don't want Woody, but rumors Hanks has come back, so who knows.
So let's take an ad break and then we're gonna do my two thousand
and twenty three final rankings. For the most part, we'll be right back
and we're back. So I did this last year. Did this as like
a salvatory thing because that was the most year I'd watched new movies. I
don't know about his movies overall. And then but that's when I watched it.
Oh, look at Kirk. I watched Lady Bird totally tidy, said,
goretit girling. Man, fuck, just go watch Golden Geeks. There's
there's some travesies that happened there. But I like to shut this out because
we don't get to review everything, right, even though it's funny, and
our go do our survey. Our survey is gonna be up for a little
bit because we're not doing our town hall probably till end of this month or
beginning of March, just the way it happened, And the patrons have a
lot of retros they've purchased, so we want to do those. So,
uh, there's one thing on there where it's like, hey, I actually
came up a few times. There was a three times where people in a
variation degree said, we would love to hear like little reviews, kind of
like what siquest does, but at the beginning or in a segment, because
we understand some movies might not take a whole review or be worth that for
the podcast, but I like to hear you're playing. And that's what happened
last year. I was like, Okay, I'm gonna do this right,
even though in the review someone's like, oh, Sultburn was a big miss
one. I did review Sulburn. It's on the feed. It's a smaller
one because it's not spoilers, but I did review it, and if you
want to spoiler one, that's fair. But that was someone we could have
never predicted. That blew up right as Christmas, and we weren't doing much
casting Christmas, so it's like it blew up. I when I saw it,
there was five other people in the theater. I was like, well,
this movie's dead, and you look at that box office didn't do the
greatest and then blew up after right, So sometimes things don't always happen.
But that's what these are. Four if I've reviewed them, and maybe you're
knew the podcast or you miss it. I will say that I reviewed them.
And then there's one the feed, just go search it, right,
but it's gonna be rapid fire. So here we go. I watched h
well, I think it was one hundred and thirty or fourteen when I had
the year had ended, and then I've watched more films since then. And
that's why I wasn't gonna do this rankings yet, because there was movies like
Iron Claw I hadn't seen, poor Things I hadn't seen, which took a
while to get here. So that's why it took like a little minute for
me to see everything. And I still see everything like Wonka is on here
I want to see but just like that's just the way things goes, right.
But let's start the very bottom. My worst mood the year. I
to me think there's a one A and a one B. Technically my last
movie of the year is Xomas. I've said this before. I love a
bad, good Christmas movie. This was just very bad. And I got
the little extra insult for being filmed in my hometown right here in Kelowna.
I am less than five minutes away without traffic. Leads less than five minutes
out away from where they filmed, and that's a slap in the face.
But Christmas movies are usually always bad, so that's where it's tough. So
that's why I think it's like a one A one B situation straights awful movie.
Didn't laugh once. It's not a fan of shrays. Yeah, not
not good. I can understand why someone I like it, but not for
me. Spy Kids Army and so it's one hundred and twenty two and up
Spy Kids Armageddon. Not great. My kids watched it. I hate it
because they think that's the first Spy Kids. I was a bad parent and
didn't start them on the other ones, and then now they've luckily watched the
other ones, and I think my oldest likes that one more. I think
Logan not as much, but they've watched a few times. If your parent
kids of interest, at least let them watch the first one. Try your
best not to let them watch this because it ain't good. Pet Cemetery Bloodlines,
Yeah, this was disappointing because I'm a big pet cemetery guy. I
don't know if I talked about trust told you as far as a mini review,
maybe I did, but yeah, not a good time. Felt like
very you know, we're talking about toy story and all that stuff. Felt
very straight to DVD old school era and yeah, not good, very messy
movie, very plot, very thin. But luckily I only had Strays and
exos as my point five movies. The rest of these coming up now are
one star Outlaws with Pierce Bronson or Brosnan and Adam Devine. I'm just not
an Adam Devine fan. I didn't think the humor was that great, but
I watched it because I love Pierce Bronson. I just did all the Pierce
Brons and James Bond loved that man, still my favorite. Bond ghosted.
Well's there to say. Not a good movie. It feels like an AI
movie. It's poorly made, lots of issues, lots of waste of talent.
Apple TV they might have and I'm sure there's definitely some films right because
I think Codo was on there, but like some of their bigger films,
they might have got the TV stuff with the films. No, man,
not great. This should be lower because I think it's I rated. Oh
I give it a. Okay, I get a so I passed it.
But it's rated lower than like Murder Mystery two, which is not a good
movie. Did not like them or a Mystery one. I watched these.
I don't know why, because I guess me and the lady both like Adam
Sandler and Jennifer Anston and it's there on Netflix. Not a good movie.
But the movie before that I had was Skin of a Rink. I have
it as a passing grade because I appreciate the art and what went into it
and how different it is and unique. Just no a movie for me.
Ever, don't think the payoffs are worth it. Don't think everything was good
enough to justify it, but I appreciate them for taking the swing Pooh,
Blood and Honey, which at one point was my bottom. But yeah,
there's a review on the feeds to go check that out. Hypnotic Yikes.
I don't think it can be lower because at least there's something's there to like,
but it feels like it should be lower. But yeah, not good.
Five Nights of Freddy's at one twelve. There's a review on the feed,
so go check that out. Or is there Maybe you did like a
mini one I was, it's disappointed by that. I didn't have enough fun
with that, there was too much. Lore is a boring movie. Shouldn't
have been a boring movie if you're doing a movie about a killer animatronic store
and whatnot. Best Christmas Ever is one of the best, the best bad
Christmas movies ever. We talked all the newscasts once. There's this great segment
of Heather gram an attic. I won't spoil it. My god, it
is phenomenal only in the so bad so good, so keep that in mind.
Vacation Friends too. We watched the first one and John CEOs and so
I watched it. Not good. It's a wonderful knife. This one really
disappointed me. I was really excited by a trailer and it just missed the
mark in a lot of ways. I've not watched all these Legion of Superheroes.
Was not a fan of that. That's one of those DC animated movies.
Just yeah, and what they did with Supergirl in it. Not not
a fan the Mummies weird movie. It's about mummies that come back in this.
I'm I think the kids liked it enough, but they never asked to
watch it again. And that's where I was to where it's like I think
it was like a rain day or sick day where we watched it and I
think that's fine. Definitely one that just like to me to like pad the
numbers right trolls, trolls band together. I don't have much say other than
like wiser, if you're in letterbox, do yourself a favor, pull up
trolls band together. It has like it's a three point two and it has
like average, like it looks like three point five, three and two point
five are like the highest ratings, but then like five out of five it's
like really high. I didn't know there's that many trolls fan to just come
over like spam. It's it's not like when you see a movie like when
I'm Gone Girl, watch that this week fantastic movie and it's like it's like
the five, four point five, four, they're all like varying or very
close, and then there's like continues to dip. It's just like four point
five is so little and then five is like shop never noticed that it was
fine and sink got back together for it. So cool. They should do
a whole two red, red, white, royal and blue. That's like
that the what is it? The ones a Prince One's a cabinet member.
It's the two love stories with the men and they shouldn't be together because there
are different political parties. I don't know I saw. I think I saw
some memes for it and it was on Amazon Prime and I worked from home,
and sure, and I liked enough. But I think I passed it
right, No, I didn't too, so maybe I didn't time is.
I think I do remember not laughing enough for what should be a rom com
and just a sense of like hollow ness there. But when I look back
at it, I felt like I liked it or not liked it. But
she's like, oh, yeah, that was fine. It definitely was like
and I guess I FAILIX made it just wasn't good enough. It wasn't like
in a way where hey it's so bad. No, not that just maybe
unforgettable because maybe I'm waking stuff about cocaine bear not the not much for me.
I've said this before. Banks Is directing stuff doesn't do it for me.
First five minutes did I pass this movie? No? I did not.
First five minutes is ten out of ten quality. The rest of that
down Hill Old Dogs that was that Netflix movie with Bobby Carnival and God,
what's his name? The Boston asked Bill Burr. It was fine. They
try to do the whole like someone deal with cancel culture and stuff like that,
and I just don't think they went in the middle nough like they'll still
have. They just had these dads doing things where it's like even if cancel
culture wasn't the thing, it's like, you couldn't do this, Like it's
just like just the setting they had. I don't know, it just missed
the mark a little bit. Sick. That was a disappointing one. That's
one that people talked up. I watched it and did not. Yeah,
didn't enjoy that one. It's just the first. Oh I never rated this
one. Power Rangers once and always, which is so funny because we just
started watching. So I watched that because I'll see some Rangers were back the
real og ones and I was a fan of it as a kid, So
I watched it, and I watched with the kids so they might get a
kick int of this, and then they loved it. And then we've watched
a bunch of Power Ranger stuff I've talked about before, a little bit of
Powerrangers Birthday, Uh yeah, it was or sorry, Gwen did. It
was a big deal in our household, and then we like took a break.
I don't know why. We got to Range Mighty Morphine and an Alien
and then we got to Zeo and we just kind of stop life caught up
and funny enough that we're talking about was just last night. We just start
because we're talking about that in Turtles and like, well, let's start watching
these, let's get caught up on them. So we just put in Zeo,
which I'm not the biggest fan of, but yeah, so it's funny.
It seems longer. But last year started the Power Rangers craze in my
household, and yeah, they love the Power Rangers, all three of them
too. It's it's all that can do that to those gen rations. But
ant Man in the Walls Quamania, there's a review for that. You can
go hear that disappointing. The Monkey King liked it, but I thought it
was a little like lackluster, some aspects not coming great. But yeah,
pure Pan and Wendy. Honestly, I don't remember much of this other than
just being disappointed with two laws performance. Just League War World, Oh that
should be lower. I'm editing this right now. It was not good.
It was a bad movie. War World. Let's see here, where is
War World? I'm putting you down. I would put that down so right
now, I got it ranked at I had at ninety seven. I'm gonna
put that just a notch above the Supergirl one, Legions of Superheroes, wherever
they go? Bah bah bah, Let's go back up here, God,
where are We Die? Heart with Kevin Hart. It's on Amazon. I
passed and enjoy because John Travolta is in it and he's chewing the scenery,
so that works for me. I had a good time with it. And
then spoilers John Travolta's only in it for the first half and then the movie
goes down. Hell in Cidia's Red Door. Yeah, I was that was
disappointing. Devil on the Trial That is the documentary about the Conjuring three movie
like the real life story, I don't think this should actually be as low,
but documentary is from your heart, So I feel like maybe there's a
part of me that I can't remember if God was this a doc either it
was too short or either got a little hokey at one point, and that
might have been that so we'll see three Little Mermaid. It's fine, It's
fine. Yeah, that was the biggest disappointment. Peter Pan Wendy were from
director Greener. Yeah, David Lowry, I was super excited because when I
announced that, I was like, man, we might be getting something different,
something very unique, even though it's Disney. It's like, you bring
the goods here, and there are some visuals in there that felt like it
was him, but it didn't feel like him. So yeah, that was
a big disappointment to me. Geenie Melissa McCarthy, she's a genie Christmas movie,
exactly what you'd think she's doing, all those type of roles that she's
done before Grand Arisma. These are really low ninety one. I go check
out Golden Geeks that's on there. Totally killer. Yeah. I didn't like
that as much as other people. Just some of the human didn't work for
me, and it just yeah, just I guess it's just tough when you're
comedy and you're not that funny, right, So that was tough. Zoe
one O two. I think I passed it or gave it a three?
What I give Okay, I just passed it. Oh' all was fine.
The very last joke, one of the best jokes last year. Holy fuck
right at my alley, great it ate Extraction two. It's fine. The
first one was fine. This fine eighty seven. Megan liked it, didn't
love as much as everybody else. You have Fast and Furious X pretty low,
but you know Ruby Grilm and the Kraken or whatever he got the Mighty
morphrom Paw Patrol movie. Good enough, Time is fun, none too better
than the first, but still not great. Haunted Mansion. I liked it,
but I gotta give it another go. I just remember being a lot
of unnecessary backstory stuff, and I remember being way too long. Let's see
here show your activity what I say, got too long and at times way
too seriously. Oh right, they did like a death of a wife,
and it got really just too much for the movie. I was expecting more
fun time Dark Harvest. That's a movie that's on Amazon. It's a fun
little Halloween movie. Check it out. I liked it enough, Clay put
on my radar, patroon Clay, but it just was lacking in some departments
as well. Story stuff. That's a movie where literally they had some more
cord adr and you can see on camera that they're not talking, and it's
not even like not talking because they're off the side. It's like literally their
lips aren't moving and you can see it right away. So I get it's
tough, but that one was just egregious and it was a line that wasn't
needed or transformers right as beasts. It's fine reality of Sidney Sweeny. It
was all right. I liked it for her. There's a gimmick they did
in there that I didn't appreciate, not that of the enemy, just that
like, Okay, this doesn't work for me. I got you people with
anymore hin John Hill, that's a big disappointment this year. Money shot the
porn up story. It is worth if you like the industry of porn as
far as just like how it works. That's always the thing, right They
talk about these things the most successful industries, and porns one of them.
And with the controversy, I was curious. It was good enough. She's
saying fear the Gods. We got a review for that. That's at seventy
five. Pamela like that. The Boogeyman, that was another disappointing one.
A diary wouldn't be kid the Christmas movie. Be aware there's some things in
there that they talk about the secret Sanna. So just heads up, Leo,
that fucking Adam saying a lizard movie. My kids also really love that.
I thought I would have liked it more, didn't. These are a
lot of movies that I thought I would like more, didn't. Ryan Field,
Exorcist, not really Exorcist surprising that even passed it. I liked it
more than other people. But the rest of these movies, Ryan Filled my
Stroke, Rebel Moon, Hunger Games, all movies I thought I would liked
more, whether they're on my own hype or like Hunger Games where people are
like, there's those really good wait till you go see it, And for
me it did not hit the back half. After the Hunger Games, it
just takes a dive. It's just like story wise, very poorly written.
Character wise. It Yeah, it's got some issues in there for sure.
That in that third act really hurt it for me. Canny Kane Lamby Ednie
Murphy Amazon movie, terrible poster on letterbox, but really surprised me. It
was a good time. I think we'll be watching a few times during Christmas.
So the Pope's Exorcists, great time. Love this movie. Russell Crowe
was great. They had this kid saying the most outlandish shit, go wash
the Pope sexes in finney Pool. Go watch it. You might hate it,
but it's worth it. Really wild movie movie a time that fucks it
does there. You're getting newtie and you're getting some sex scenes in there,
and you're seeing some odd stuff. But uh yeah, it's very very odd
movie. And I give it a three point five out of five, so
it got the job done. There's some great filming aspects, performances are great,
golf is great, but I don't think the I think just even the
whole back half, it's just kind of underwhelming. So Scooby Doo and Crypto
had fun of with that. Super Mario Rose at sixty one. I liked
it. I don't when things I hate it, but I liked it enough.
But it still just felt like a YouTube cut scene movie. Migration that
could go up actually with more watches. I put it there because there was
a couple that I just didn't feel comfortable going high with. But Migration really
like fun movie with the girls. I had a good time fit. It
actually has a story, like a more written story unlike mar so I had
to bump it a b Mario. But yeah, that one surprised me,
and I think we watch again because they've already watched it once, so that
could climb up. Joy Ride. There's a movie that I think just got
overhyped for me. Liked it but did not love it. There's a few
things I remember, but with everybody was saying it's the next super Bad or
Hangover for comedies, wasn't that for me? Blue Beatle we got a review
that on the feed May December. Liked it not as much as everybody.
I am in the camp where yeah, the comedy hurt the movie and just
not as well fleshed out suitable flash with Heather Grand Go watch that if you're
a horror fan. It's about people fucking and switching bodies and Heather rams great
in it, so definitely go check that out. The Marvels we got a
review that on the feed All Command. There's a few in the feed,
Dungeon and Dragulars reviewing the feed. Napoleon. I wasn't disappointed by that because
Ridley Scott, his later career has been very hit or miss, so it's
not like a what he made it. No, and there's some people that
absolutely love it. I know Clay has it in its top ten er Patroon
Clay on Discord. I know Spob was like, just saw in your letterbox,
get a four point five out of five. Here's people. I enjoyed
it. I gave it a three point five. Yeah, I liked it,
just we'll ever watch again. Kirby steals that whole movie from though,
so heads up there inside with willing to Vote. Liked that, but just
wanted just like a tad more from it. I don't know. I was
expecting more of a hook and it just didn't have it per se. But
if you want to watch Willing to Faux for a couple hours, there you
go. Dungeons drag and like I said, Priscilla, good but not as
good as I thought it could have been. I think the time Jones kind
of hurt that, So I wish there would have been more in certain eras
with a chicken run down on the nugget. I really like that. When
the girls are like that still gonna watch the first one because they'd never seen
that, and I'm like, you can't watch without me, and we still
watch it. So I gotta get on that. But there's lots to watch
and we will do other things too, go swim, hike and stuff.
So all right, we're in that top fifty now forty eight. I lean,
that's another same thing as what we was talking about, Oh, hungry
Games where great acting. One two third act just for me was a nose
dive. I did not buy into a lot of the choices that we made
there. Oh another one like that scream Scream six or is it scream five?
No? At six? There you go. H yeah, talk about
a fucking nose dive ending. To me, that ending just plummets, in
my opinion, not good. I know some people like the overacting of certain
characters, but yeah, it did not did not age good for me in
the moment Boy and Hairon we talk about on Golden Geeks created three, there
was if you check that out last voyage to me, I thought we talked
about that on an episode. If not, we talked about that in Golden
Geeks. So there you go. Really enjoyed that one. Now we're in
like the four at a five range, but really enjoyed that one. Tetris
Air, the Blackening, sixty five pneumony, all really really good Thanksgiving coming
out. We talked about on the stream that to me was close or Golden
Geeks that to me was close to being like top tier Slasher. I think
they missed the mark on a few things, especially just like caring about characters.
But they're really well done them in some moments. I'm excited to see
what their cart twon is gonna be, not gonna cab in three seven,
probably hiding in a lot of other people. This is my documentary of like
I can't put these past certain movies, but this is where they're gonna sit.
The Robert England Hollywood Nightmare, still the Michael J. Fox one,
and of course American Nightmare, Quit Roads, which I forgot, Camel this
year kills the flower Moon. Did I talk on the cast? I know.
My quick thing is it's at thirty three. That's still high. I
gave it a four point four out of five for me. That is the
best score there's if it's best versus favorite, If it's a favorite, just
what I like, I think it would for sure would be a three at
five, maybe even a three because production everything's great. Score I don't think
it is great. I know some people says no that to me, I
felt like generic stuff. You're just down anywhere fo me, directed well,
acted very well. I just think that, especially when might almost called Michael
Scarsese, when Mari Scarsese says, hey, I was writing this movie,
and I stopped and pause and went, hey, this is from the white
man's point of view. Let's not do that. Let's rewrite it and go
a different route with it. And then when I saw the movie, it's
from the white man's point of view, and I know people go, oh,
well, you know that's good fellas there the point that like he was
following the criminals. There, I get dada da. I don't think that
they showcase Lily Gladstone's character enough. I know people also go, well,
what would you do? How would you she's in the bed the whole time
here at the end, how would she be a character you reduced that she
acts that well, But there is a lot of this time where she's in
the movie I think for an hour fourteen and there's a lot of times where
she's in that bed, playing sick, playing well. But to me,
that was the journey, that was the character I wanted to fall more So,
I feel like mariy overall really really missed the mark and there's something even
at the end. But it's been a big debate because I know some people
really like it, and that's for me. It was another thing where it's
like it's very from like a white guy's point of view. And this is
also just coming from a white, straight guy, so I'm not in any
of the other categories, so it's hard for me to speak on. I
just felt even like, and there's that's been a debate, right because I've
seen Native American people bring up and go, no, it represents well.
And then even the person that worked on the film, he was like the
culture coordinator or something, and he was like, yeah, I don't really
feel like I'm very surphrasing, like, I don't feel like it represents our
side. It shows something to their aside. So it's definitely a torn Even
if you look at our discord, same thing, it's torn. I'm on
the side where a Gladstone should have been the main character. I think Leo's
miscast just flip him in Plemmons and I think she is more of the main
focus because to me, it just felt like I was watching a bunch of
shitty white guys for a bit, and that that's fine to a good degree.
But when you go and say, hey, it's from the perspective of
white guys. Just because he made them more bad doesn't mean it's not from
their perspective. So I think Marty just missed the mark a few times with
this one. But the filmmaking prowess and just certain shots, scenes, movements
directing, as far as action going or actually acting going, it's still to
our top Terrance Martin Scorsese. So and I'm not like, it's not the
same way as me with Spielberg, where I'm like Man, because I loved
Irishman. Actually, I think I gave that a four point five out of
five last year. That's when I watched and the first I was like,
I don't know, and I finished it, and then right up like I
did the review, and then right after our review or I watched it again,
I'm in the mood to watch again now. And to me that made
more sense because that was about yes, criminals, him doing other things that
they've done before, but it was in the guise of what is a retiree
person dealing with immortality in life and breaking frenches off with friends they've known for
decades, how does it affecting? What do you do? And to me
that played because Mary talked about his immortality and directing that that movie played into
some stuff that felt like it was real for Marty. And I'm not saying
Marty doesn't care about what happened to Day of Americans. No, not that
just I don't think it's in his soul as much as far as being able
to write that material where Irishman between the crime stuff and getting older was so
but so four out of five. That's where we are right now. Elemental,
Mary Batman, Elemental. I liked a lot. I did not like
the war character know with the fuck out of me, But I do need
to watch again see if it goes high or lower. It's not one of
my all time ferrets, but I enjoyed it. Mary Little Batman. That's
gonna be yearly watch. If you missed it this year, go watch it.
I guess you gotta wait till next year. But I start watching now.
Chrystmas Batman movie about him and his son. But man, they you
can tell it's written by peel at Love Batman. There is it's very lego
movie esque. There's constant jokes about everything Batman. It's worth it. If
you don't like the style, you can go. It's a Christmas movie.
Even if you don't like kids, or I guess you don't like kids,
maybe if you don't happen. But if you don't have kids, go watch
Mary Little Batman definitely worth it. Uh The Killer that one I also got
righted of four. I had some issues. I thought I was hoping to
like, really like love it, love it. I didn't end up loving
loving it, but I really really enjoyed it. That was one where I
watched it and then the next day I watched it again. So it has
that has that you know, feeling, has a vibe. So that's one
that could climb up over the years. Even four or five is good,
but that could climb up over the years. So I need to wait on
it. So there's some aspects that didn't get me to further that I would
pick apart. But you know, I think I did a mini review.
Yeah I didn't an interview that no hard feelings, really good comedy, some
little different twists and turns. I like the way it ends. Lawrence is
a fucking the home run slugger here so there you go. Uh, no
one will save you. Think we talk about the cat? Yeah, all
these movies now I'm gonna go through pretty much because we talked about them all.
If we didn't, then I'll stop. But so now I'm at twenty
eight going up. No One will save you. Talk to me, The
Flash, Missed, Impossible, Deadreckoning, Teenage Mutant, Ninja, Turtle,
Past Lives, which I loved that when I need. I loved the Car,
so I need to watch it again because I gave it, what was
it a four out of five? I can't remember why I didn't go with
the full manti there was something because I mean when I did, I law,
did I give me some Let me see if I put some cons there,
because I think there's a couple of Oscar movies that I still have to
watch that I will rank. But I think I will rewatch Past Lives again
because that's one where it's like joy Ride, where people hyped it to high
heaven. Let's see some fantastic performance. Is a great script, but I
just felt tad under baked. I think a little more time could have gotten
much higher for me if done right. So I guess that's where also I
gotta get back to because I watched that when it came out, but if
it was anything, yeah, there's just maybe a little bit more time.
It's one of those movies that sometimes where it ends you oh no, like
there's still fifteen twenty minutes left here that you could do, think even just
certain things at the ending where I go, oh, really, it's already
over Like I felt like there's some stuff unpeeled here, but overall still satisfying.
I need to watch it again with Oscar stuff. This is one I
could end up liking more, so we'll see when I returned back to it.
The creator but was afraid leave the world behind, which I liked a
lot more I think than other people. But great acting, great very realistic
vibes. So yeah, the Pale Blue Eye, I count it because it
came out theaters in January or in December the year before, but we didn't
get it till January, so whatever they cloned. Tyrone in my Top twenty.
Really enjoyed that. Love the vibe, love the visuals, the cast
at great chemistry, laugh autloud moments, chalks and surprises. Yeah, definitely
really good. Ooh, Cobweb, that's another one. Now we're in like
the four point five set of five's Cobweb. That might be a yearly watch
for me. I really enjoyed that that covered or captured that Halloween vibe of
just the tone the season. Loved that third act. Great actors in there
with Zoe Anthony Starr and oh God, always forget her name, she's becoming
that like the you know, Lizzie Kaplan. Yeah, it is a really
good. I've seen some people don't enjoin even the third act, but the
third act for me like really deliver. It's like to be. It reminds
me a lot. I've seen people say, oh, it could be like
an anthology. It could. This felt like an anthology that was stretched out,
but that worked for me. Maybe it could have been anthology and a
little bit better, But overall four point five out of five didn't have that
many big CONTs. And to me, the third act very similar to Trigger
Treats and Sam and Brian Cox story, and I think it was done very
well. They delivered on the uh, the the ending there. Pick it.
So how's it going, sir? I hope we were doing well.
Okay, okay sixteen and Aana Jones, you go check out our review fair
Play at fifteen. Love a good sexual thriller. I love you know it's
a thought abos many time, very sexual person. That's why I'm with the
person. I am as well too. She is well too, because I
needed that when I get locked down. Uh and to me, if you
can make a good one based on thriller, there's not enough sexual threat was
out there. I'm there, I'm game, and I think this one does
it very well. Love the dynamics why this is probably higher than some others,
like even Inania Jones. There's scenes in here where I go, oh,
I will remember that forever good or bad, not mean bad. Qualitywise
are just like things that happened to our character. It's once in particular,
man just makes you feel so awkward as fuck. And then what's her name
there, Phoebe Dinivar or whatever. She's on my map now. She was
fantastic in this. So yeah, great, great movie. I'll be watching
that again in the future. Ironclaw really good. I thought about the trest
told you recently, was not. I was prepared and it still got me
somehow. Number thirteen Guards of Galaxy, Number twelve, Evil Dead Rise,
Godzilla minus one at eleven and if you want you just go search tressed in
a letter box and find all this and follow me there. Number ten.
So yeah, minus one just got pushed out for me. I just saw
the other day Number ten Spider Man Across the Spider or number nine, the
movie that pushed out Godzilla dream scenario. Oh loved this movie, loved it,
loved. I get some people's issues, maybe not loving everything about it,
but yeah, I so much good stuff here, So creative. Nick
Cage is fan fucking tastic here comedic but also like heartbreakingly Sad has an ending,
one of those very everything everything all once ending is where it makes you
appreciate life. Not saying it's a happy ending, but it makes you appreciate
life. And yeah, that happens all the time movies, but when done
well and it hits well, go man, that's what movies are for because
they could make you their mind and go, okay, yeah everything, I
appreciate what you have because you never know what's gonna happen. Very creative.
Loved dream scenario number eight. Bottoms number seven Sanctuary thing I've I ranted about
this on a trest, told you love Sanctuary. Another sexual thriller Marvel quality
is just fantastic. That's probably next time is so my favorite female performance of
the year. Just yeah, really really good. Oh what the hell happened
here? Some movie jumped over a bunch of them that was not where it
was supposed to be. Let's see there, Yeah, there we go.
So Sanctuary was actually six, the Holdovers was seven. Some reason I had
Holdovers in my top three. But Holdover, It's gonna be one of my
favorite Christmas all time. Watched that twice this year. Gimani is great.
That young guy that Got's great? That is just oh yeah, Holdovers one
of those just like chicken Soup for the soul, perfect movies. Another movie
that's just like a raw fuck yeah gold life, like makes you cheer for,
want to be a good person, want to do good things, want
to see the characters be happy. Definitely worth it. Bottoms, Like I
said, I think I talked about it, Sure I have told you.
But that's just my jam. That humor, that comedy, everything. But
yeah, Sanctuary, go watch it. I feel like what's going on in
the letter box here. S Bus was a big fan of it. Scott
was a big fan of but yeah, fucking Clay and Dylan. I have
both. You give me like middling reviews, you know, come on,
come on, sirs, But yeah, good, good shit. That's a
movie that it shouldn't have. But it had an ending where I literally stood
up been cheered because it's like it's like fuck yeah, like it was just
oh yeah, love that movie. I gotta rewatch again. But yeah,
really really good movie. It feels like a play almost, But yeah,
I enjoy that. And these could shuffle over years the rankings of them.
But poor Things at number five. You check that out On the Golden Geeks
episode john Wick chapter four, you can check out review Oppenheimer at three.
You check out that review Barbie at two, and salt Burn at number one,
And that does not I know. I say these and people might go,
oh, let's spoils your Golden Geeks. It doesn't because last year I
had Batman number one, and I vote for everything over all at once.
Not sure we are men do this year because I don't want to spoil what's
where. But I have that situation again where there's a favorite versus the best.
I think I know which way it's gonna go, because it's less strong
this year, where last year was like The Batman could be my new favorite
movie. I still say The Dark Knight because I've had more time within more
years with it, but I need time to settle. But The Batman was
like a movie ripped out of my mind, even though I think there is
as I've watched more, there's more cons against the Batman, like the joke
rams you Prison seem like, ah, this just doesn't play here right.
So there's a few things, but overall, still love that movie and then
everything ever all once, I still consider the grace when we were made.
So it was very tough your favorite movie versus the best movie. This is
the favor of the year versus what I think would be the best of the
year. I'm not gonna say which way I'm leaning, but I'm pretty confident
which way I'm leaning. But I don't know what patrons are gonna do.
So check out Golden Geeks and you get your answers there. But yes,
thank you very much, get a called there. Thank you everyone, tune
in live chat, thank everyone that listens later on and I'll be back.
Not sure when next Christ told you. I think the next dress told you
might be Honestly, it might be for the oscars in a couple of weeks
ago to talk to the patrons again an Oscar predictions date, but I think
that will be the next time so and until then it'll not be boring.
Thank you everyone for tuning in. I love you all. Mm hm