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I asked the student as they stand
behind the ball and they get prepared to

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take their shot, that they spell
the word trust. And on the very

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first letter T they start their motion
forward to address the ball, they spell

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the word trust. And on the
very last T they swing the club,

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so it's t r U S T
and then they pull the trigger and swing

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the club. And what that does
and what it did for me as a

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student and a player as well as
now as a teacher, is it allows

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myself and my students to kind of
take that breath, focus on what we're

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trying to do, and trust that
we're going to do it. Hi,

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this is Herb Strachman from Tampa,
Florida, and I play a cheeky Rodrigue

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country club. This is Golfsmater number
eight nine four. Amen. Well did

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a Tory's student proudly continues his teaching
legacy with Trish Future. This is Golf

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Smarter, sharing stories, tips and
insights from great golf mines to help you

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lower your score and raise your golf
IQ. Here's your host, Fred Green.

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Welcome to the Golf Smarter podcast.
Trish. Hi, thank you Fred.

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How are you good? How are
you? I'm doing well? You

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come highly recommended. A long time
Golf Smarter listener and ambassador Rick Petrick suggested

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that I give you a call.
That's wonderful. He's taken lessons with you.

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He is not. He's actually just
part of my YouTube channel. He's

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one of my followers. Oh so
he follows you in Yeah, awesome.

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Yeah, how's that working out?
It's good, it's good. I started

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my YouTube channel about I don't know
four years ago and it was literally intended

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for my students as reminders of what
I did every day with them in their

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lessons, and then it just kind
of from there. So he is one

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of my followers, so I ate
the well, please please publicize it.

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It's eight fifteen tea time, right, yes, it is eight fifteen tea

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time, one et tim And it
actually started off as a date. So

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I went to my attorney's office when
I wanted to incorporate my golf business and

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he said, well, what do
you want to call it? And I'm

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like, yeah, I got nothing, so golf business. And he handed

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me a piece of paper and he
said, well, try coming up with

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some names, and you know,
think of something creative. And I dated

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the piece of paper and it was
August fifteenth of nineteen ninety nine, and

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I was like, oh, eight
fifteen, that's a good time to play.

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Ha ha ha, And that's how
it started. So, oh,

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that's so fun because I actually thought
you meant the clock eight fifteen. It

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is converted to the clock, but
it is actually the Yeah, okay,

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as an eight oh four birthday.
Oh yeah, I relate, all right,

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I love it. Yeah in August
birthday. So you grew up Chicago,

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moved to Milwaukee, never lived Florida, never lived in Milwaukee. You

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never lived in Milwaukee. Nope,
nope. I commuted from Chicago to Milwaukee

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to Seemanuel. Oh okay, well
that's what I wanted to bring up.

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Manuel de la Torre. Yes,
who you got to work with and take

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lessons from or tell me your history
with him, because he's We've had many,

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many people who've worked with him on
the show, and including Manuel before

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he passed away, was also featured
on this pie. I've listened to that

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podcast many times. Actually, oh
thank you, oh wow, thank you

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all. Let we'll talk about that
absolutely. So I actually I was a

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very young professional. I had just
started in the business. I was all

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of twenty years old and so it
was a long time ago, so people

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are going to start doing the math. Yes, I'm old, but darn

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so not. So I was.
I was an assistant professional at a golf

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course outside of Chicago, and I'm
hitting balls on the range one day and

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this woman came up to me and
she said, Hi, I'm Pat Kimball.

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I'm the new teaching pro and I
went, Hi, I'm Trash,

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I'm one of the teaching pros too. And she looked at me and she

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said, you're going to teach golf
with that golf swing? Wow? And

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I was like, Ah, what
are you talking about? And so she

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introduced me to a concept and from
that moment forward, I knew that she

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had something there. And about a
month later, she invited me to go

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to Milwaukee with her to meet Manuel
and I never looked back. I met

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him, I spoke to him.
I didn't have a lesson that day,

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but I met him, I spoke
with him, I observed him, and

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from that moment forward, I never
ever looked back, and my career with

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him began. So it was pretty
cool. And what was it that?

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Yeah, what was it that that
just clicked for you? Well, so

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my whole history and at that point
I knew I wanted to teach. So

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you could say my vocation in my
life was to teach. Whether it would

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be somebody teaching somebody how to tie
their shoes, I didn't care. I

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knew that I wanted to teach,
and I haven't had to teach junior so

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how to tie their shoes. But
so well, it's because of Velcrow and

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now slip on, you don't need
to tie your shoes. But I observed

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him teaching, and I and I
observed Pat teaching, and Pat was manual

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student for almost fifty years, and
I observed both of them teaching, and

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I I got a sense of calm. It's for lack of a better way

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to put it. And it was
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The way Manuel communicated, and how
precise he was in the words he

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used and the images he projected to
his students that I knew I wanted to

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emulate that. And then I started
to learn about the concept that he taught

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and how basic and fundamental the physics
and the geometry were that it just fascinated

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me and I never looked back.
So unbelievable. Yeah, you say,

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how precise he was with his words. Flesh that out a little bit.

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What what was it? Manuel used
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he was not born in this country
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And he told a story about being
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and I can't remember the word that
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on tendre on the word, and
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how are you feeling today, Manuel, And he said, I feel very

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gay or whatever it was, and
the word had a double lundra. And

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he learned very quickly that the words
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there could be dual meanings of a
single word. So he was super super

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specific about what he said and how
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most mistakes again, so wow,
now, let's let's take it back even

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farther because growing up in Spain Um
he his father was also a very famous

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instructor and Angel yes I'm sorry that's
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Delatorre, who was a great instructor
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he was he And did Manuel follow
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So a little bit of both.
So Manuel told the story that from

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the time of his you know,
toddler years, his father put a golf

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club in his hands, and he
his father and Ernest Jones were very close

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and had a very good relationship,
and everything that Ernest Shawn in Angel Dilatory

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taught they taught to Manuel, who
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two, three years old, and
literally for his entire life he lived

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to his mid nineties. He never
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he absorbed all of that information,
expanded upon it, and that was his

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life and his mindset. It was
pretty amazing. It's pretty amazing. So

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even he's been gone now since I
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Yeah, and he was featured on
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I had him on the show,
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which was rerun as Golf Smarter Mulligan's
nineties. So people just go back and

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listen to that. He Why is
it even today that his lessons, his

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methods are so embraced by golf instructors. Well, I wish it were embraced

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by more golf instructors, but I
think truthfully, because there is nothing in

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the concept, and we refer to
it as the concept, but there's nothing

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in the concept that can be disproven
through physics and geometry. So everything that

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I strive to teach my students that
I was taught by manual or by pat

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is proven through the physics and geometry
and science and physics don't lie and math

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doesn't lie. So there's no simpler
way to learn how to use a tool

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than use the tool the way it
was designed, if that makes sense.

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And what is the tool? The
golf club? It's that simple, it's

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the golf club. We use tools
every single day, works knives, pens,

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computers, bones, glasses. Nobody
teaches us how to use them.

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They teach us what to do with
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Wow. All right, we're gonna
go deeper with that, but we're gonna

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take a time out right now.
We'll be right back. All right,

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let's go into the concept. Okay, let's talk about the concept. Let's

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explain it from the ground level up. Okay, So, in the game

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that we call golf, we are
given a full set of golf clubs,

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which include fourteen tools in our bag. And each of those fourteen tools have

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a specific purpose, and that's to
propel a golf ball forward in a direction

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presumably our target. And if we
use that tool, each of those fourteen

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tools are designed to do different things
more loft, less loft, longer,

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shorter, things like that. But
if we use that tool in the same

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way for a basic shot, we
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and a golf ball is propelled forward. And the biggest word I just

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use beside tool is swing. And
the definition of the word swing, if

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you were to look in a dictionary, or for your listeners that are a

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little younger, if you were to
google it, you would see that the

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word is defined as a backward forward
motion from a fixed point or a two

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fromotion from a fulcrum. We become
that fulcrum in the golf swing. We

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our bodies are the fulcrum that the
golf club swings around. It's that simple.

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Literally, that's simple. So the
takeaway that I always get when we

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have these conversations about him is the
center point, the spine right, and

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that you're working from there correct correct, specifically your sternum. So if if

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we take we as human beings,
have a spine that keeps us upright,

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our skeletal system. Spine keeps us
upright as human beings. And our sternum

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is what is the focal point or
the center of that swinging motion, because

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we swing the club with our hands
and our arms around that sternum. Okay,

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so does that make sense? You
want to keep going? So we

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hold the golf club with our hands, and we swing the club back to

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our trail shoulder with our hands,
and we swing the club forward in the

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direction of the target with our arms. And our arms are defined as the

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part of our appendage from our elbow
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my students all the time, I
say our fingers, our hand, our

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wrist, our forearm or elbow,
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and then our shoulder. So I
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ball in a string, which if
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and the club focus instruction and the
concept that I teach, we use it

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a ball on a string all the
time. Ernest Jones used to tie a

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pocket knife to his handkerchief. So
Manuel gave me my first tennis ball on

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a string, and we swing that
ball and string with our arm our forearms

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create a lever motion, but our
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biceps can create a swinging motion.
So we swing the golf club backward and

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forward with our hands and arms,
and the full crumb between our tricep bicep

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each shoulder to our elbow is our
sternum. So specifically, in my humble

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opinion, the center of your golf
swing is your sternum. Makes sense now

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there, Yeah, it does,
It does to me. But there are

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so many many different methods, concepts. There are so many different ways that

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golf is being taught from, so
many different instructors that we have things like

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Manuel delatrees swing. We have stack
and tilt, we have single pivot,

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we have stillness, weight up on
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We have so many different ways of
going. Why does now, I

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know you were saying math doesn't lie, but do these get incorporated into that

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or are they separate? How do
you feel about these? So in my

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humble opinion, and again, I'm
just a local golf bro. You know,

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I'm a nobody so to speak.
I'm a somebody to my fing.

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No you're not. You're featured on
golf Smarter. You're an important person right

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now. But so I would say
that most golf instruction, most people that

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teach goal teach pieces and fixes,
and what's the word I would like to

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use. They teach pieces of a
puzzle. We that teach club focus instruction

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in this concept with manual or from
manual, teach a philosophy, and it's

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a completely different way to look at
it. We teach an entire system or

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concept that incorporates every single person.
So if I were to take a teacher

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that say, teaches stack until what, and I specifically teach special Olympics,

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I teach wounded warriors, I teach
veterans, and I teach people with physical

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limitations. Thank you, Thank you. I love doing it. Thank you

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for doing I love doing it.
That's awesome. It's probably the most rewarding

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part of my job. But we'll
talk about that then more later. When

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I encounter somebody that is missing a
leg or a person that is paralyzed from

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the waist down, how could I
possibly teach that person stack until? I

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can't? But I can teach that
person to swing an object, which in

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this case would be a golf club
around their center, which in my humble

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opinion is their sternum. However,
that person's ubility to do that, the

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concept remains the same. A swing
is a backward forward motion from a fixed

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point. It is a to and
fro motion from a fulcrum. So,

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however that can be accomplished with that
particular person and their body is how you

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get it accomplished. But I can't
teach them to put their weight on their

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front foot. I can't teach them
to forward press. I can't teach them

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to keep their left arm straight because
what if they don't have a left arm,

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if they're a right handed player.
What if? What if I myself

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personally happen to be blind in one
eye and legally blind in the other.

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How can I teach somebody to focus
on the dimple of the golf ball?

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Why? I can't because I don't
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So how could I possibly teach somebody
to do that? I myself, personally

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don't use an intermediary target like a
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see it. So how could I
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can't see it? Can't? So
the concept of swinging a tool, in

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this case, a golf club backward
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accomplished any way. Your body can
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accomplish a great golf swing and be
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Yes you can, and you are
and we'll be back right after this.

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Your visual impairment, yes, does
it? How severe is it to impact

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your game and your instruction? It's
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no way to answer that because I've
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I was born Is this something that
came on? Well, I you were

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born this way. I was born
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of what it is to see out
of my right eye, and I don't

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know what it's like. Um.
I mean, I have I have contacts

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where I can I can drive a
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on the road when I'm around,
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can fluction on a day to day
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people see, so I have no
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never never have, Yeah, and
it Likewise, I can't tell you if

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I were to work with you on
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you how to feel something because I'm
not you, So how could I possibly

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interpret what you feel? And I
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a teacher is when I observe other
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doing the best they can. I'm
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not. But when a teacher says, well, you've got to feel like

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you're doing X, well, how
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something? I can't. So I
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is they have to use words that
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matter, I can't tell you how
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can tell you what to picture.
I can't picture it for you. I

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can give you an idea of what
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brain send synapses to your body,
which will interpret you word movement. A

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number of years ago, when I
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I picked the game up when I
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there was a female instructor that I
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to me, do you feel that? And I'm like, what are you

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talking about? Exactly? I had
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she said, no, feel how
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it, and I kept saying,
I'm sorry, I don't understand what that

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means. I'm new to this game
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to explain to me. She goes, no, but listen, just do

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and she would just All she did
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and it was not connecting. I
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unfortunately that's more common than I care
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so sad. That's why one of
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I fix him? Well, thank
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how did you? Um? I? Actually? You know one time I

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was reached out to by a listener
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an adult and but he's playing golf
regularly and says, you want to go

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out and play golf with the blind
guy? And I love it? You

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kidding? Of course I do.
I love it. I love it.

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And he had he had a handler. I mean, as as you do

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and he plays competitively now and he's
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and telling him which direction to go
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they discussed the hole in everything,
but it was oh, I hate to

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pun, use this pun, but
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be able to just trust the feel. That's trust the feel, trust the

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observation and not Yeah. So I
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changed. I would say trust your
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that was yeah, I would go
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definitely. And that's That's another one
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time. I try very hard not
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tried to ask them what they were
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after something takes place. So if
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feel it after I've made the action
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a feel, but I can be
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So fabulous. How did you get
involved with UM Special Olympics, PGA,

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Hope, Wounded Warriors, these groups
and tell me, just give me a

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story, but first tell me about
how you got involved asking too many things

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about So that's okay. So I
form in nineteen ninety nine when I when

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I came up with an ame eight
fifteen tea time, I opened the first

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ever indoor golf learning center in the
state of Florida. And I was basically

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golf tech before golf tech existed.
I had a simulator and three knew back

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then, and so my parents got
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of my parents and I closed my
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to the green Grass Facility to teach
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Whatever. Long story short, fast
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that ended up selling and close their
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job teaching, and I was hired
by the former LPGA tour professional Donna White,

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if you've ever heard that name,
kind of a pretty popular name in

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women's golf. And Donna hired me
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local here in South Florida. It
was Okay Hilly Golf Course in Lake Worth,

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and she kind of plunged me into
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have this group coming. It's called
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Oh okay, whatever. And the
PGA Hope Program is helping our patriots,

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patriots everywhere, and it's a it's
a program offered by the PGA of

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America and it is specifically for veterans. It's an eight week program and it's

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no charge to the veterans whatsoever.
And you're certified in adaptive golf, so

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in case veterans are wounded or have
limitations, we are trained how to teach

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them. So Hope, the PGA
Hope and Wounded Warriors started because of Donna

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and her just throwing me into this
program, which was awesome. And then

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about two months later she said,
oh, by the way, Tris,

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you're taking over the Special Olympics program
here at Okiheely, Palm Beach County,

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Florida. This our golf courses,
their home for the Special Olympics in Palm

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Beach County. And by the way, you're doing the program. It's like,

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oh okay. And there I went, and I walked out and there

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were about thirty five Special Olympic athlete
everything from physical to autist day to physical

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limitations, to everything under the sun, to blind to deaf, to everything

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else. And I just kind of
got thrown into it and figured it out

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the first couple times, and then
started researching about adaptive golf. I got

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hooked up with a woman named Judy
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is the woman who created and was
one of the founding people that created PGA

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Hope and Wounded Warriors and adaptive golf. And Judy and I have been friends

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ever since, and I'm certified with
her instruction and mentorship on how to work

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with people with adaptive needs. So
that's kind of how it started. And

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I'm telling you to this day,
eight or nine years later, I can't

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even remember when I started it with
them. It is probably the most rewarding

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part of my job. Truly.
I can imagine. Oh, I can

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imagine. Is adaptive golf growing Absolutely, They're really pursuing it. Absolutely.

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Is it growing on just organically?
Yea, it is. Um, There's

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there's adaptive golf tournaments there throughout the
country. There's I was actually just reading

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a whole article about um somebody was
somebody made a comment on Facebook about Tiger

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playing and the Masters and about how
he this person that wrote the article or

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the question, how he had his
leg amputated, and he thinks that if

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Tiger had gone through amputation, he
wouldn't be suffering as badlan if he is

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now. And so it was.
It was really cool. But adaptive golf

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is really growing because golf is a
sport. Like I said before, if

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you use the tool, if you
have the concept in your mind that it

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is a swinging motion around a center, and you use the tool the way

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it was intended, anybody can play
it. Missing limbs, paralyzed, blind,

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deaf, doesn't matter. Anybody can
play it, which is cool.

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It's very cool. Yeah, it's
it's wonderful. I love that about golf.

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Is Judy Alvarez still around? She
is doing this, Yes she is.

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She's MALPJ. And you got to
get her on the show. Oh

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she would love it, she would
love it. Oh yeah, all right,

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all right, we're gonna talk after
the show to to get me introduced

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so we can get her on the
show. But we're going to take another

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time out right now and find out
what's happening golf Smarter mulligans. And maybe

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even while we're talking about golf Smarter
Mulligans, let's bring in a clip from

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and we'll come back with a clip
from Manuel Delatoria's show. As I announced

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last week, we're following up on
our nine Lessons from the late Tony Manzoni

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with six episodes from the Golf Smarter
Archives that featured doctor Glenn Alba, who

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passed away earlier this year at the
age of ninety one. Glenn was a

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mental game pioneer along with being a
professor and the golf coach at the University

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of Pacific for nearly three decades.
In our second episode that was originally published

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on November twenty nine, twenty eleven, we continue to discuss Glenn's first book,

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Winning the Battle Within When we develop
a strategy, you're going to pick

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a strategy that fits your game.
SIT's a situation and when you can totally

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commit to So if we only had
a cut shot in about a month,

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please don't try it out here or
go back to that lob shot. And

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so if you don't have a lob
shot and you have a tight line,

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just get it on a green.
You might have a thirty footer, but

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it's a lot better than trying to
do something you don't know how to do

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and they say you're in the trees
and instead of attempting a miracle shot,

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punch it down on the fairway.
Another words, do something you can do.

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And one of my players I work
with for a long time, Kirk

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Triplett, says conservative strategy in aggressive
swing only do what you're prepared to do

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and prepare yourself to do as many
things as you can. That's our sister

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podcast, Golf Smarter Mulligan's episode two
hundred ten, the second of six in

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our series featuring another incredible mental game
coach whom we recently lost but allow his

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legacy to live on. This episode
is called the Perfect Swing is the one

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you Trust. Check the show notes
or our blog post to learn more about

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from wherever you're listening right now.
The club is designed to give you a

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certain height for certain distances and the
other thing that people don't understand of the

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loss of trajectory. The loss of
trajectory are very simple. The further you

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propel an object, the higher it
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the lower it goes. So when
you're hitting a shot, for instance,

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if you say five yards off to
the left of a bunker that's on the

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left side of the green, and
you have to say it to the green,

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that ball is not going to go
very high. But everybody has this

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tremendous picture of the ball going high, and they hit it right in the

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middle and knock it right in the
bunker. So the mental picture is always

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the ball going forward, so that
the club gets a chance to meet the

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ball in the face of the club, and then the face of the clock,

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which has the waft, gets the
ball in the air well. From

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an interview in two thousand and nine, episode one hundred eighty seven, that

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was Manuel Delatore, and it was
also you can go back and find it

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on episode ninety of Golf Smarter Mulligans. You got any stories from adaptive golf,

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from the programs you work with that
just you love to repeat. I

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would love to hear it. I
have one, and it's it's not even

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so much about a physical limitation.
But the first PGA Hope program that I

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did that Donna White threw me into
with no preparation. There were about fifteen

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veterans in this program, one of
whom was at the time a ninety two

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year old World War two VET,
and unfortunately this week he has just gone

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into hospice, which breaks my heart. But anyway, I digress. There

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was a woman at at this program
and she suffered pretty strongly from PTSD,

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and so the first it was an
eight week program. In the first week

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she kind of sat on a bench
and took stock of what was going on

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and didn't participate. And the second
week she was sitting on the bench again,

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and I walked over to her and
I asked her if I could say

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and she said yeah. So I
said, you know, there's no pressure,

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there's no need to feel like you
need to participate, but if you

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ever want to, just jump in
whenever you're ready. And I went on,

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and I left, and I went
on and I continued teaching it with

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the other teachers. There were more
teachers there than just me, And at

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the end of the eight and she
ended up starting to participate, and at

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the end of the eight week program, we all sat in our little food

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court area at the golf course and
we were having pizza, and I asked

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everybody to just give me a summary
of what they thought of the program and

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if there was anything we could do
as teachers and as a facility to make

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it better. And this woman stood
up, and we went around the room

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and everybody talked, and Bob talked
about being in World War Two, and

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then this woman, Christina came up
and she said. She looked at all

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the other veterans and she said,
you know, I know you're going to

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understand what this means. But eight
weeks ago, I was dragged here against

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my will because I wouldn't have been
available after that day, so she said,

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because I would have made myself unavailable
permanently. And so we all kind

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of took stock of that, and
then she looked over at me and she

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pointed to me, and I'm a
big I'm usually wearing loudmouth shorts or you

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know, tied eye and bright colors
and knee on it. And she pointed

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to mend she said, and you
with your goofy clothes and your goofy personality,

412
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that you got more sunshine coming out
of your eyeballs than anybody I know.

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She walked over, she put her
hand on my shoulder and she said,

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because of what you did and how
you did it, you saved my

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life. And I started to cry
and I was like, you know what,

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this is why I do it every
day. I don't care if you

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ever hit a golf ball. Oh, a's the golf club hits the golf

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ball, you don't hit one.
I don't care if you're ever good about

419
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yourself, right, I don't care
if you're ever good at this game.

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I care about whether or not you
take pleasure in the time that we spend

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together on the lesson tea and in
the time you spend on the golf.

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That's all I care. That's it. It's literally, it's it's pretty awesome.

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That's so awesome. Yeah, you
know, thank you. That's why

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you do what you do. And
you know, eight years later, seven

425
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years later, or whatever it is, she is now a national ambassador for

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the PGA Hope Program, and she
travels the country talking about how this program

427
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saved her life and gave her hope. So that's it. That's why I

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do what I do. That's why
I do when I go thank you.

429
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Yeah, it's pretty cool. She's
pretty awesome. All right, let's talk

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about golf for a second. Yeah
right, I'm gonna I'll gather myself here.

431
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Um. So I was playing golf
this week with um a foursome that

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Will I one of the guys I've
met before, but I hadn't played with

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them for years, and the other
guys I didn't know, and they knew

434
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that I do this podcast, so
you know, they're asking me about the

435
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podcast and like, and always the
question is who's the most famous person?

436
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:16.480
Even it's like, I don't do
famous people. This is not what this

437
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podcast is about. That count.
Yeah, well, I actually like to

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say that this podcast features the unsung
heroes of game improvement, and so you

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are definitely one of those heroes and
clearly a hero. Thank you, Thank

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you. And so I was,
you know, watching and I don't,

441
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you know, like, even though
I feel like I have this master's degree

442
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:50.199
in game improvement just because of speaking
to hundreds of golf instructors, I don't

443
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like to give out tips and lessons. I like to ask somebody if they

444
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want an observation and one of these
guys. My observation was, you know

445
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you're alignment. You hit the ball
exactly where you were pointing, so I

446
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:06.800
don't know why you're surprised it went
so far right your body was where.

447
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:09.159
He goes, well, I said, show me how you line this up.

448
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:13.679
And he steps up to the ball
and he looks over. You know,

449
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he's right handed, so he looks. He turns his head and looks

450
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:20.960
over his left shoulder and he's like
looking down the line. And I'm like,

451
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really, did you ever play any
other sports as a kid. He

452
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goes, yeah, I played basketball
in high school. I said, show

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me how you shook a free throw
and he, you know, stands right

454
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there in front of it and he
shows the motion. I said, oh,

455
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you don't look over your left shoulder
and push the ball after the ses

456
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No, that's ridiculous. I said, why do you do that? I

457
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:43.880
said, show me, you know
your preshot routine. Maybe you should stand

458
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behind the ball and look and pick
a spot. I said, make three

459
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points the ball the target, and
something about twelve to fifteen inches in front

460
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of the ball. Make that your
line, and then then step up to

461
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the ball and focus lining up with
that little spot in front. So with

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that said, he's like, WHOA, I've never heard of that. It's

463
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like, yeah, well, I'm
glad I was able to share it with

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you. Jack Arnold Palmer, tell
me, tell me about your preshot routine

465
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and how important you feel it is. So my preshot routine for myself personally

466
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is basically the same preshot routine I
have used my entire career that was taught

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to me by Manuel and by his
student Pat Kimmel. And we used to

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go through a process and we would
say to ourselves if we were practicing,

469
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it was out loud, if it
was in a tournament or something, it

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was to ourselves, and we would
say, I will swing the whole club

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from the top to the finish in
the direction of the target in one uninterrupted

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motion. I have translated that over
the years to bring it to my students

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as what I call the trust drill. And I ask my students in a

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lesson, what do you swing and
their answer is the club And then I

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say, we swing it around are
and they say center, and we swing

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it in the direction of the and
they say target, and we swing the

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00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:36.400
club to the finish and then I
asked them what they swing the club with,

478
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:43.199
and they say their hands and arms. So after I ask those series

479
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of questions, in a lesson,
I ask the student as they stand behind

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the ball and they get prepared to
take their shot, that they spell the

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word trust. And on the very
first letter T, they start their motion

482
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:07.519
forward to address the ball and they
spell the word trust. And on the

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00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:17.159
very last T they swing the club, so it's t R you s T

484
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:22.840
and then they pull the trigger and
swing the club. And what that does

485
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:27.360
and what it did for me as
a student and a player as well as

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now as a teacher, is it
allows myself and my students to kind of

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00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:38.840
take that breath, focus on what
we're trying to do, and trust that

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00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:43.800
we're going to do in if that
kind of makes sense. Is it a

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00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:49.039
distraction? Are you trying to get
them to not think about the body parts,

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about what they should be doing or
what they want to do during the

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00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:59.679
swing? Oh? Absolutely absolutely it's
a distraction, but it's also a calming.

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Just kind of take a breath and
trust the fact that you have learned

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what you're trying to do. So
I've always said that there's four basic fundamentals

494
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in the game of golf. And
it's not grip, dance, posture alignment

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like everybody thinks it is. WHOA, I say, those more fundamentals are

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we will hit the ball in the
center of the club base, or the

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00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:30.440
ball will be struck in the center
of the club base. We will swing

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the club in the direction of the
target. We will choose the correct club

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00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:47.199
for the shot at hand, and
we will trust those decisions. So if

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I can instill those four things centeredness
of contact, swing in the direction of

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00:45:53.880 --> 00:46:00.039
the target, choose the correct tool
for the project at hand, and trust,

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00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:07.480
my job is done. I don't
want to be a that's disturber here,

503
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:14.159
but shouldn't choose the club? Be
first? Choose the club. It's

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00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:16.360
one of the four. It's one
of those four phenomenal Okay, it's not

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00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:23.199
a sequential four. Okay, noose, yeah, yeah, okay. Those

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00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:29.599
are the four things that we're trying
to accomplish, and those things will produce

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00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:32.800
the trust. So now we stand
behind the ball, we spell the word

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00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:38.000
trust as we address it and pull
the trigger. So we've already done all

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00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:45.400
of our work, already taken right
right, And trust is a huge word

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00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:50.440
here because there is so much self
doubt. There's so much self sabotage.

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00:46:51.039 --> 00:47:00.119
There's so much um doubt, you
know, lack of trust in almost every

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00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:07.599
swing that an amateur golfer makes,
and maybe even on the Yeah, I

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00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:14.039
mean absolutely, they're questioning everything you're
doing while you're standing there. So trust

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00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:20.039
is an important word to remember,
but maybe the hardest thing to execute.

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00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:29.599
Absolutely. I remember Manual telling us
in every lesson, or just about every

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lesson, and I bring it to
my students now, is that once you

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quote unquote pull the trigger to start
the motion of the golf swing, you

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00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:45.079
have to leave it alone. You
have to allow it and trust the fact

519
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:51.039
that the club is designed to do
its job. Golf club manufacturers spent a

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00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:54.960
heck of a lot of money designing
and researching equipment to a job, and

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00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:59.239
we don't trust the fact that those
clubs are designed to do a job.

522
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:02.599
So we got to help it right, leave it alone, trust it right,

523
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:07.880
right, that's it. That's simple. That's simple, all right.

524
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:13.639
So tell me. I'm not hard
enough to make it, but Manuel was

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00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:20.239
absolutely, um so much. Tell
tell me one more time. Tell everyone

526
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:22.159
how to get in touch with you, where to find your website? Um

527
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:29.440
and where they can follow you and
your your teachings online. All right,

528
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:34.079
so it's pretty simple. It's a
really good tea time to have every morning.

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It's eight fifteen teatime dot com eight
one five T E E T I

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00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:45.400
M E dot com eight fifteen tea
time. And it's pretty simple from there.

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If you type in a fifteen tea
time, you can type in my

532
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:52.559
name. You could do whatever.
I'm on YouTube, Instagram, all those

533
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:58.800
fun social media stuff and all of
my information is listed. Pretty simple.

534
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:02.800
Well, thank you so much for
your time, and thank Rick Petrick for

535
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:08.159
turning me onto because we've learned a
lot. I've learned a lot and I'm

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00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:12.880
going to do everything I can't take
that trust with me to the next teat

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00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:20.440
box. Absolutely, thank you so
much. So I really want to give

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you a quick update on the hidden
gem of a course I played last week.

539
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Northwood Golf Course is tucked away in
a grove of massive redwoods in Sonoma

540
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:35.760
County, designed in nineteen twenty eight
by Alistair mackenzie, with a very rich

541
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:40.199
and riddled history. But it's only
a nine hole course and we played through

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00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:45.320
twice, which was kind of a
dream come true because whenever I play a

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00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:49.760
new course, I frequently think about
how I can't wait to play it again

544
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:53.079
with a little more course knowledge under
my belt. Well it's now May,

545
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:59.480
yet we still had three separate downpours
during the round. It was so strange

546
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:02.239
for northern California to get rain that
late in the year, but clearly this

547
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:07.400
has been one of the strangest and
wettest winters that I can remember. But

548
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:12.159
the rain served its purpose as I'm
training for ninety holes in three days this

549
00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:15.079
coming June a Bandoned Dunes. As
a matter of fact, I've just scheduled

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00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:19.679
an episode with Bandoned Dudes to get
a history and overview of each of the

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courses on that incredible destination property,
So stay tuned for that now. Over

552
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:30.079
the weekend, again, in preparation
from you know, I'm in training,

553
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:35.599
I played at Bedega Bay Golf Links, which again it was perfect training because

554
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.800
we were on the coast of the
Pacific Ocean with strong winds throughout the round

555
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:45.199
no rain, think goodness. But
it also included an eight plus mile walk

556
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:51.960
and nearly three hundred forty feet of
elevation change. The marshals thought I was

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00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:55.559
crazy for not only walking the entire
round, but for pushing a golf cart

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up these hills too. I'll leave
some photos from each us on today's blog

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post to share some of the incredible
beauty I saw in both places. I

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want to give a shout out to
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