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Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm your host for the day,

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Jay Gonzalez. My partner Steve is
out today. He's gonna go out today

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and on Monday. So today it's
me and Noah. No's it's a good

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day. It's a big day.
I feel like it's it's we got blessed

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that it's not one of those days
or nothing goes on. Yeah, but

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uh it's a memple Friday tonight,
some good games, good good stuff.

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We got some NBA stuff going on
tonight. We've Scott some ongoing stuff.

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Um, you know, still haven't
heard from the u of A on on

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on the Jagen Delora thing. Wisconsin
did issue a statement yesterday, but we

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haven't heard anything from Arizona, which
I kind of wish we would, But

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we'll get to that in a second. Um, So you know, some

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other stuff, men's tennis. I'm
this one. I'm keeping an eye on

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because we've had we've had Um Clancy
Shields, the u of A men's tennis

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coach on a couple of times.
And they're in the middle of their NC

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double a first round match with the
Boise State. Uh, they've taken the

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doubles point. And for those of
you who aren't familiar with this, the

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way a tennis matches scored a contennis
matches scored. They play three doubles matches.

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Whoever wins two out of three gets
the one point for doubles. Then

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they play six singles matches. It's
the first one to four four matches wins

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wins the match. So Arizona has
the doubles match. So all they have

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to do a split the six singles
matches and they win. They're up in

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three of those four of those.
UM, so it's it's looking, you

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know, very good for Arizona to
move on there. But we'll keep it

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on that a little bit. But
that's just something that UM just got.

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It's got my interest because Clancy Shields
have been such a great guest. He

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really appreciates being on our show.
We had him on ahead of the ahead

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of the tournament. They're very excited
and this is kind of historic fair zonus

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in the middle of their match right
now and then, um, you know,

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a lot a lot of breaking stuff. But U, this thing with

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Alabama and their baseball team is continues
to to come up with little tidbits of

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news or finding to warn more about
that what's the what's the what's the main

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storyline? Well, here's what happened, and it's starting to come out as

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to more specifically what happened. We
covered a little bit of this yesterday.

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But the deal was at Alabama was
starting in a three game series with LSU,

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Alice's number one in the country.
Um and uh, right before the

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game, like within an hour or
so before the game, Alabama, Uh,

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their head head coach Brad bohan And
had to take their starting pitcher and

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put him on the bench. He's
game. He had a bad back.

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So they're ace and in college baseball, your Friday starter, your first day

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starting. This is the last Friday. Your first day starter is your best

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pitcher. It's all of a sudden, they're gonna have to pitch some guy

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who hasn't pitched in a long time. Yeah, all right. Apparently he

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relayed that information to a guy who
is a it's come out that he was

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a former high school baseball coach.
Don't know how he's connected to Bohanon yet.

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But this guy in Cincinnati who goes
over to the Cincinnati Reds Stadium Great

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America Park, there's a sports book
there and he laid down a couple of

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wagers on Alibat on LSU. They
were called sizable wagers. Now, a

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sizable wager in the NFL, college
football, college basketball is in the thousands,

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hundreds of thousands. Sometimes we know
about Mattress Mac who bets millions of

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dollars. So the standard of what's
a sizable wager in those sports it is

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probably different from what's a sizable wager
on a sport that hardly anybody ever bets

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on, which is right. Fan
Duel in the aftermath of this, reported

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that in all the fan duel states
and all over the country, they didn't

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take one bet on Alabama LSU.
Not one. So somebody goes into this

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sports book and lays down a single
bet on LSU and then puts LSU in

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a parlay while he's in the sports
book. Surveillance video they when they were

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investigating the surveillance videos, somehow I
don't know what kind of surveillance video they

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had said that on his phone they
could see that he was in contact with

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the Alabama baseball coach while he was
making these bets. So they're talking somehow,

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So so what do you what do
you mean? Like they didn't They

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didn't take a single bet. Nobody, nobody else bet on this game except

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this guy. So there was like
one bet, right, So drew suspicion

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that some guy not only was betting
on Alabama LSU baseball, but he's betting

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a significant amounting, right, So
they had something's up. Somebody's doing.

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You know, somebody knows something.
Here's the thing is that and and and

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you know, for the longest time
that people wanted to get gambling legalized was

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because of the ability to monitor legalize
gambling. When people are gambling with bookies

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and whatnot, you don't know what
the hell is going on, right,

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of course, you know, when
you go back to the Headache Smith thing

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up at ASCU, the point shaving
thing up at the ACU basketball the reason

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that got found out that was found
out was because people were betting on ASU

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games in Vegas. Vegas detected that
there was some suspicious activity going on,

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and that's how they got caught.
Same thing with this, It was unusual

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for somebody to be betting this much
money on an Alabama baseball game, particularly

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to be betting on an Alabama baseball
game in Cincinnati. So basically, a

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guy in Cincinnati bet on an Alabama
baseball game and put a very large amount

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on it, and he was the
only person in the entire country to bet

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that game. More or less.
So if you, if you like asked

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me, if you were like me, give me away, give me away

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where you place a bet and make
it as obvious as you can that you're

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gonna get caught. Like that's what
I would do. Ye, go bet

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one hundred thousand dollars on an obscure
sport if I, if I asked you

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to go, put five thousand dollars
bet for me somewhere, you know,

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at a sports book on an Arizona
basketball game. Nobody's gonna think twice about

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that. But you tell me to
put If I tell you to put that

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on an Arizona baseball game, red
flags go up. And that's what happened.

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There were red flags. They looked
into it. They immediately stopped taking

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bets on Alabama baseball although nobody else
was betting on it. Two other states

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did the same thing, and investigating
this, they found out that the guy

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who was laying the bets was in
contact with Brad Bohan and three days later,

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Brad Bohan and the baseball coach at
Alabama is fired. So you know

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that Alabama found something that said we
got to fire this guy and they fired

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him. So, but do you
think that has to do with him like

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giving the information out? Yeah?
So, so this guy in Cincinnati was

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he's not he got no, he's
not related to the team, but he's

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apply got some kind of connection with
Brad Bohannon, the baseball coach. Because

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what this guy did was he went
and laid some bets down on information that

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wasn't available to anybody else. Brad
Bohann called say, hey, my guy,

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my start, My ace is not
pitching tonight against LSU. The guy

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who's pitching isn't going to beat him. They're gonna kick our asses. Go

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put some money down on LSUM.
That's what they're alleged. Okay, okay,

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I would make that their allegend that
he was in contact with Bohannon.

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Bohan told him what was going on. Whether Bohannon did that or the guy

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said, hey, I want to
place, you know, a bet on

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your team. What do I need
to know? Whatever it was, Bohannon

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provided information to this guy. This
guy made the bets. Now Bohannon's fired

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because they've apparently determined that he had
a hand in these bets that were made.

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My question is if they find out
that the only thing that was done

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was he just said what was like
the details, nothing about any money wherever,

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just said it's going to be this
picture instead. Do you think that's

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a fireball offense? Again, it
depends on the circumstances. If he was

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sending text messages and he was telling
the guy go bet on this right,

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or he or the guy said,
hey, I'm gonna bet on your team.

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What I need to know and he
tells him that he knowingly gives him

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information that he knows is going to
be used for dambling. That's a fireball

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offense to be exactly. So Like
for me, it's like, yes,

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if he had any influence, I
who knows the way he said it.

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If it was like a phone call
he was like hinting that maybe you should

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you know, there's a really good
chance that you should put money here,

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like no one else knows, you
know this, right, It's like if

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it wasn't that, it was kind
of just the other thing like that could

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have slips him just saying it.
I don't know. Well, the fact

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that they fired him, I mean
it applies there something they've determined that he

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was. He had, he had
an influence on this guy making these bets,

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and now he's out of a job. The thing is, you know,

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no, uh, how much money
was he going to make on a

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bet like that? Right? Ls
he was probably favored like how to beat

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Alabama? Anyways? Who's going to
make some money off of that? Not

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very much? Certainly, this guy's
getting paid nearly half a million dollars a

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year to cold be the Alabama baseball
coach and now he's out of a job

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and he was fired for cause he's
not getting a buy out or anything.

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Right, He's like he's cut off. So how much could it have been

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even if the guy best, Even
if the guy bet five let's say,

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bet five thousand dollars, the money
line on this is probably going to be

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minus or or you know, uh, five hundred or something like he was

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gonna make you know a couple of
a few hundred dollars that hasn't come out

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how much the bet was. All
that's come out is it was a it

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was a bet, a single bet
on the game, and then that game

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was included in a parlay. It's
the part of everything else hit. I

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don't know. That's like I can't
have been late, but it's like I

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don't know. Yeah, the thing
is and here's there's a big piece of

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this is that people who didn't want
gambling legalized or saying, see, we

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told you this was going to happen. But what we what those people don't

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know when none of us know,
is how much this was happening underground with

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bookies and stuff right where this guy
got caught because gambling was legal. Like

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we'll think about it. It's like
it's like, yeah, that, but

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it's like you find like for every
like rat that you find, there's like

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ten in the walls here right Like
it's it's like it's like, I mean,

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I think it obviously would have been
different unless you found like hundreds of

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people betting on this game and they
were scattered from vacations. That would make

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a big difference. But it's like, yeah, see, and that's what

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happened. That's what happened in the
ASU thing, in the ASU thing,

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all of a sudden, for this
one game, there was all this action

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on ASU basketball because word got out
that points were being shaved. So all

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these guys and mostly students from ASU
were driving up to Vegas and flooding the

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sports book and making bets and that's
what you know, caused the red flag.

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And that's how those guys got caught. There's a great there's a great

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HBO documentary on this. Um Our
friend Ken Summers has been on on the

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on the show number of times.
He was a reporter covering NASCU basketball at

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the time he's on, he's a
part of the part of the documentary.

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But it's fascinating they don't find these
things out. If Cami, if gamily

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is not legal. Let's take this
call. Hi, run they are and

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on the ball. Hey you guys, um this Hey Gabriel from California.

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UM, do do you guys have
time on to talk about what's going on?

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We do, but you know what, We're gonna go to a break

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here in a couple of minutes.
And then we got a guest. Why

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don't you call us back after the
guest, so probably probably about three forty

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okay, and then we'll we'll talk
about it then because we're running out of

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time for our first break, but
we we want to talk about it because

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there's there's you know, there's obviously
stuff going on with that. We've got

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our guests, Hurt his chin from
the Sugar Skulls coming on in a couple

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of minutes, So call us about
three forty okay. Sounds great, talk

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to you soon, got it.
I guess I should remember I should let

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let our listeners know Hurt his Chin
head culture of the two soon Sugar Skulls

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they've got. They're back on the
field this weekend. They took last weekend

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off after a very disappointing loss,
uh last second still overtime loss to San

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Diego. Excuse me, um.
We'll have hurt us talk about what's been

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going on over the last two weeks
on the heels of this thing. And

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then at at four or fifteen,
Jake Fisher, who'll, uh, we'll

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pick Jake's brain on all of this
stuff. Jade Delora h Jayden Bradley,

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who's you know, come to Arizona
after kind of being tied to this this

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uh, this murder in uh in
Alabama, UM, and just all the

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other stuff. Jake always gives us
a good perspective having been a college athlete.

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So we'll talk to Jake about all
of that. But anyway, just

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real quickly getting back to this whole
issue with the gambling thing. So you

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know, that's how you get caught
by this stuff being legal. So you

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know, the people who keep arguing
about gambling on sports shouldn't be legal,

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they're they're arguing about the wrong thing. This is how this is, This

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is how these things get caught,
and this is this coach got caught.

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There's gonna be there's gonna be situations
like this. But what we don't know

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is how many of these are.
They're already out there where guys were doing

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this with bookies way more than way
more than we know, way more than

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we know way more. So that's
you know, I mean, that's the

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whole deal. So, um,
this is this is gonna be going on.

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And look at the media is after
this a lot of investigations. It's

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with a public school, so documents
and stuff like that are gonna be uh,

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you know, are gonna be public
and we're gonna find out more and

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more, to my way of thinking, if this guy did this, this

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wasn't the first time he did this, right, I mean, yeah,

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it's there's a likelihood that this was
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We've got Tucson Sugar Sculls head coach, hurt his chin, coming off a

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very difficult loss, but took the
week off. Probably gathered yourself and hurt

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us. Want to talk to you
about how things are going. How are

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you today? I'm better than wonderful
today. How are you awesome? Awesome?

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That's great to hear. So last
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coming off the field. Had a
tough loss over time to San Diego,

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a game that we all know.
It came down to one play on that

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He'll marry and you guys could have
won the game ended up not. You

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go into the into a bye week, so you've got a couple of weeks

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to chew on this, but just
tell me what your approach has been since

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that game. Since that game.
First, the first thing I did with

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the players is when we got in
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from it? It was some things
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selfishly that if we would have put
the team first, the game would have

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been over. But that's neither here
nor there. We just went in the

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approach with Okay, this whole season
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for everybody out there, coaches and
players collectively. So that's the approach we

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took first and foremost, what did
we learn from the game? And as

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coaches, we went back in the
lab and you know, added some extra

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pieces to the office, you know, to make us more explosive on office,

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to make us that played better as
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ends, I mean, you spent
it, some loose ends we had as

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a whole. So we took it. And more importantly, I let the

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players rest just to give them a
chance to miss football, you know,

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to get you know, back to
things and be eager to get back to

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it. So when you had that
talk with them after the game, What

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was the respons or did you get
a sense of a response or how they

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were taking it and where you're happy
with what you saw? Uh, it

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was it was more so you know, people thinking back to things they could

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have did better and you know,
apologizing forward and things of that nature.

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And that was a reminder for me
as the head coaches, just to remind

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everybody, like everybody's going to have
their chance to mess up in the course

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of a game, but we need
to limit those things and limit those mistakes

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so we don't have to feel like
this and look like this after game,

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especially in front of you know,
our home crowd, which we want to

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protect that home field. So we
learned from the game and they were you

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know, they didn't take it lightly. They knew that what was at stake.

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You know, they loud that we
let one slip away. So we

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did everything in our power necessary to
you know, moving forward to not let

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it happen again. Right, So
the good news for you guys, as

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you're still in first place by half
a game, you're three and one with

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those three wins on the road.
So, uh, you you talked about

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you know, fixing up some loose
sands, picked doing some things in this

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last last couple of weeks. What
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about? So, you know,
going back to the last game, we

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had a new center in who you
know, uh, just wasn't adjusted to

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this game, so to speak.
So we bought a Cordell Boost in the

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center from last year. That point
of the offense is a key essential part

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of our offense that sometimes in a
running game, just looking at it from

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a fan perspective, they might not
understand. Okay, they may see us

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get two yards when we should have
got twelve. That point, that center

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of our offense is essential. And
we added some speed with a young man

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named Emetrius Scott on a perimeter at
receiver. So those two things in itself

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should make us way more explosive on
offense. Okay, and uh, you

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know we've we've talked about your quarterback. He's you know, he was an

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offensive Rookie of the Year last year. Um, just how's he taking to,

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you know, being a sugar skull
being in your system? How do

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you feel he's uh, you know, he's adopted to what you guys are

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doing. This week, he excelled
pretty well. He's finally catching on you

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know, Uh, this this offense, this system is a little more structured

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than what he was used to.
So now he just had to get adjusted

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to that, like any quarterback will
have to do in a new system.

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This week he hit the ground running. We had some meetings over the off

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week to what me and him could
get better on the same page as that,

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you know, so he could basically
think like I think while he's out

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there on the field. And it
showed this week of practice and I'm excited

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to see how he plays this week. What what about what Ramon Atkins do

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you like the moster? You know? Uh? In terms of his physical

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skills, I mean, what does
he best at? Uh? He's He's

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Ramone is best at h when it
comes when it comes to his script.

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It stress as a quarterback as his
physicality is his arm script Ramon. If

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you look at some of the deep
balls he threw in some of those games,

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they were brutiful, they were.
His ball placement on the deep balls

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are beautiful. So we have to, you know, work on some thing

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as far as his mid range.
And you know he gets the ball out

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fast also when need be, when
the hitches. So a lot of quarterbacks

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when you throw like short routes,
sorts like hitches and quick out they have

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to grab the laces and adjust the
ball to throw them. He's a quarterback

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that can get the ball and throw
outs and hitches without the laces, which

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is a gift to be able to
do. Actually, got it. Got

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it. So when we talked to
the first time a preseason you mentioned that

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you feel like he's a much better
pocket passer than for instance, d qwan

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Neil, who was here last year. Um do you do you still seeing

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that? Is he better in the
pocket? Yeah? He just gotta you

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know, that broke the same and
different in some aspects. He just gotta

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get used to what we do here
in Tucson. And unfortunately, while the

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task we take on his coaches,
it's realizing that you know a young man

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that might have had fifteen years of
doing the same thing wrong. It's hard

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to fix in a month or two
weeks or three weeks, and it don't

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happen on our time, you know. So that's that's what we signed up

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for as coaches. But as coaches, we also we put the time in

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the working to speed that process up. And this week he looked at the

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marvelous in practice and us as a
team offensive defense, we hit the ground

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running this week moving forward. Yeah, okay, so well let's let's let's

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move over to the defense. You
guys are one of the top defenses in

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the in the in the league.
You're facing the top defense in the league

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this week in Northern Arizona. But
uh, you know, I mean,

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when when I heard that you were
going to be the head coach, I'm

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thinking, okay, you know he
heard it's been an offensive coordinator. Let's

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see, you know, let's see
how this offense looks. And I don't

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know if I wouldn't say defense was
an afterthought, but certainly something that you

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know, you you obviously got some
guys to come in and work the defense

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to where you're one of the best
in the league. Talk us a little

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bit about what you've seen with your
team defensively. That was a point of

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this emphasis coming even down from ownership
on the off season. Again, like

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you say, everybody knows, you
know, I'm a guy when it comes

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to I'm a coach when it comes
to this game that does well on offense.

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So it was something to look at
that, you know, no position

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as a head coach can I put
together a defense that's coming and competing the

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competitive every week, you know,
or getting stopped holding team the minimum points.

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Will I hire you the right guy
in place, you know, to

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make those things happen. And so
far they've been happening and at a you

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know, a great rate for us. You know, defense has been getting

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enough stopped even the game we lost
that you know they did, getting enough

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stopped that we should have won that
ball game. They've been pulling their weight

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from a defensive lime standpoint, a
linebacker standpoint, the secondary is playing well,

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just minimizing you know, big plays
when it comes to our defense.

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So it came from a lot of
off season granted with me, coach Hendricks

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and coach action on that side of
the ball. And then secondly those guys

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dying in when they got to Tucson
and this shows, Okay, well,

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what do you like bet most about
the defense and what they're doing in terms

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of, you know what aspect of
the game. Like you're talking about,

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you know, Ramon Atkins a very
physical guyman, what do you like about

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your defense? It's something that so
when I got interviewed for this job,

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I told, you know, our
owners Cathay guy that we're gonna have organized

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chaos on defense. And that's one
thing I talked to coach Hendricks about and

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coach Jackson about in the off season. Let's just have organized chaos, meaning

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that we know exactly what we're doing, exactly what we should be when we

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should be there. But to an
offense, it's confusing. So that's what

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we've been doing on defense. We've
been getting those stops because on key downs,

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when people are thinking they see one
look, we're moving around and creating

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another look and it's confusing the quarterbacks
and receivers. So the one thing we've

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been doing well, you know this
first quarter of the season, basically it

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is doing well to have the organized
chaos on decent. So talk us a

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little bit about what Mike Jones is
meant to you guys. He's, you

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know, as we like to say, you know, the face of the

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organization in terms of a player.
He's been here every year. He's kind

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of a steady guy out there.
What has he been contributing to you guys

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this year. I'm just from the
practice standpoint. He set the standard from

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a practice standpoint. Also in that
locker room when it comes to practice,

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Mike Jones comes to work every day. He comes to work hard every day,

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and when we out there on that
field, you'll you'll see Mike Jones

407
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:34.720
that he doesn't even want to get
out in practice. You know, most

408
00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:37.400
players don't want to get out you
know, when it comes to games,

409
00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:41.559
but they'll you know, relax in
practice. Mike Jones doesn't want to get

410
00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:45.079
out there practice. So when it
comes times to put those work, to

411
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:48.119
put that extra effort in, He's
been a great, great tool for us,

412
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:52.519
a great great player for us in
this organization of just setting a standard

413
00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:56.519
this is the way it should be
in Tucson. We come to put the

414
00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:00.160
work in every day here and it's
been a you know, a wonderful thing

415
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:03.599
that the coaches have got the experience
as well as the players. So you've

416
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:07.680
got the Northern Arizona Wranglers, who
you know, relatively new franchise but you

417
00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:11.079
know, got out there and won
a championship last year. Um, they're

418
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.039
they're you know, half a game
behind you. So this is an important

419
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.759
game in the standings for you guys. Tell us a little bit about what

420
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.839
we can expect this weekend with the
Wranglers coming in. We expect them to

421
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:26.000
come play hard. We expect them, you know, we expect their coaches

422
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:30.599
to tell them that they come to
Tucson to win this game, that they

423
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:33.799
will be in the first place in
this division, sitting pretty well, you

424
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:37.160
know, moving forward, and in
quite the contrary on our side, were

425
00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:41.759
very aware of the situation when it
comes to standing. We know that our

426
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:45.079
division in this Western Conference is a
very tough division and it's a week the

427
00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:49.319
week battle for every team in this
conference from top to bottom. You know,

428
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:53.519
it's some great coaches around the league, great coaches in this conference as

429
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:57.400
a whole. So we were very
aware of the situation coming in in this

430
00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:00.200
week. We know that they're coming
in and in first place, and we're

431
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:04.240
coming in to defend first place and
play well in front our home crowd.

432
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:08.839
More importantly so this weekend. Uh, you know, it's a pretty good

433
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:11.480
crowd last week, I mean,
did you feel like you got the atmosphere

434
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.759
that you were hoping for for your
opener? And uh, what are you

435
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:18.759
hoping for this week? Yeah,
it was a crowd. We appreciate it,

436
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:23.079
and we we you know, we
appreciate every person that came to support

437
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:26.880
us in that first game, and
it was it was the energy was there

438
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:30.079
from the start of the game.
Our players felt good about it. You

439
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.079
know, it was a start to
build off. Now, you know,

440
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:36.720
when it comes to putting us out
there on the field, it's just on

441
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:40.039
us to you know, do better
and win games in front our home crowd.

442
00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:42.480
To bring that energy in front of
our home crowd in you know,

443
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:47.200
this week, this's the post single
Damayo party, which they're gonna have five

444
00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:52.200
dollar years and bibbleheads going around crazy
in the facility. So we want everybody

445
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:55.079
to continue to come out and support
us, and we're going to continue to

446
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:59.039
come out and play hard for our
home crowd. And this time, you

447
00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:00.839
know, it won't You shouldn't end
like you're end the last game, but

448
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:04.880
we're very aware of it and we're
very thankful for the turnout. I heard

449
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:07.319
it, you know, I love
I love how you sound. You sound

450
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.160
like you're having fun. I mean, I know this is you know,

451
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:14.240
it's a job. It's worked,
but you gotta have you sound like you

452
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:18.240
haven't having a lot of fun with
this. I really am. And you

453
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:21.599
know, sometimes if you could ask
some of our players. We also have

454
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:26.680
meetings here and our meetings that half
five meetings are not even about football.

455
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:29.799
You know, it's about, Okay, what are we gonna do next?

456
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:32.319
Because we went out of the boys
and girls club in the community once.

457
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:34.200
Now it's about what are we gonna
do next in the community? And two

458
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:37.480
soon? How are we as men? How do you feel today? You

459
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.240
know, like how is what is? You know, what is your thoughts

460
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:44.359
about life? So we have a
lot of that talk and it makes football

461
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:47.759
easier. So to answer a question
to you know, just to speak on

462
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:51.160
what you made reference to. I'm
having a lot of fun because I'm all

463
00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:53.559
about the next generation and young men, and we do it through the game

464
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:56.480
of football. And there's something I
love to do, and we're gonna build

465
00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:00.920
this thing together, all right.
So you know, and you're not halfway

466
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.839
through your season, but you know, between training camp and whatnot, you

467
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:08.480
know, you you've kind of moved
along. Our things still seeming new to

468
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.160
the guys or is everybody kind of
settled in and say, okay that you

469
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:15.240
know, we're getting used to stuff. We know what you know, we

470
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.720
know what we gotta do where we
gotta be. We know, you know,

471
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:21.839
practice, uh, the way practice
is being done that kind of stuff.

472
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:25.519
Do you feel like the guys are
settled in, particularly some of the

473
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:30.599
newer guys I do. I used
to see after this week, this bye

474
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:33.119
week was well for us. I
think coming in this bye week, it

475
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:37.359
wasn't no sluggish you know, sometimes
things come back sluggish. From about week

476
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:41.440
we came back flying around, which
is a great sight to see. You

477
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:45.839
know, in coaches, a lot
of how we feel is what we see

478
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:48.960
out there on the field throughout the
week. That's how we feel going into

479
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:52.680
a game. So going into this
game, from what we put out there

480
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.240
on the practice week, all of
us as a unit, we feel good.

481
00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:00.400
So I think guys are really really
coming into their own in Tucson and

482
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:06.200
starting to get familiar with how things
here goes Howard structured. And you know,

483
00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:09.039
from there you kind of see that, Okay, the players are taking

484
00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:12.119
over. Hey we should be here
this time. They are here. They're

485
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:15.160
ready to go. You know,
even if you know, they don't have

486
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:17.440
to wait on coaches per se,
because they know what's going on on a

487
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:20.920
day to day basis. Right.
All right, Herris, Well, good

488
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:23.119
luck tomorrow. We'll see if we
can get the place packed a little bit.

489
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:27.640
Then get get babbled, get a
battle ahead of what the first thousand

490
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.880
is that who gets a bobble ahead
tomorrow the first thousand, come in and

491
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:35.119
get a bobblehead. Let's go crazy
now tomorrow night. Let's have a fun

492
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:39.680
hype atmosphere with some of those five
dollars drinks and nachos and every single hope

493
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:42.759
to see everybody there. All right, Hurris, thanks a bunch, We

494
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:47.119
will see you tomorrow, all right, thank you. Hurdis chen Head coaches

495
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:51.039
Tuson shut because look, the guy
is always upbeat. I'm telling you.

496
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:53.279
After the game, I mean,
it was a it was a I'm gonna

497
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:57.319
it was a terrible loss. If
they knocked down to Hill Mary at the

498
00:32:57.400 --> 00:32:59.359
end of the game, last play
the game, they win the game,

499
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:01.680
they did, they go to overtime, they lose. We get, you

500
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:06.039
know, we get an interview with
him on the field right after the game.

501
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:08.279
He was smiling. It was like, you know, I mean,

502
00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:13.799
I know the loss stung, but
he was you know, he was like,

503
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:16.920
he didn't look at me, didn't
look really pissed off. But I

504
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:22.000
know he was right, but he
didn't. He didn't, you know,

505
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:24.160
project that. And so he goes
to talk to his guys. Yeah,

506
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:29.480
they're always gonna be those those fans, like fans who you know, assume

507
00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:30.240
that they know what he feels like. They're gonna be like, oh,

508
00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:34.920
he looks so how he's a terrible
coach, Like he's not right. And

509
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:37.440
what I saw it was this guy
doesn't is not going to let a loss

510
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:39.599
like that kill him. And he
didn't and you know, and hopefully that

511
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:44.000
shows tomorrow when they get on the
field. So got to reflected it seems

512
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:45.200
so yeah, that's that's like,
that's all you could ask for him,

513
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:46.640
right, you know, and well, you know, we'll get a player

514
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:49.960
on and we'll ask him about stuff
like that. But they you know,

515
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.000
we we had Carrington Thompson a while
back, you know, the wide receiver,

516
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:54.720
and he basically said he just loves
you know, he loves her his

517
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:59.440
chin because he seems so always so
upbeat. So pretty good, all right,

518
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:01.880
So that game is tomorrow six o'clock. I'll be on the air on

519
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:07.280
YouTube on the YouTube channel with Pat
Paris. The games are also simulcast on

520
00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:12.039
Fox Sports fourteen fifties, so you
can listen to it on the radio if

521
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:14.760
you're in the car, but you
can also watch it on YouTube or even

522
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:16.840
better. You can go to the
game six o'clock tomorrow at the Arena.

523
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:20.639
So let's take a break. We're
gonna come back. There's a statement out

524
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:22.920
from the UFA on Jaden Delora,
so we'll go through that. I know

525
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:28.360
Gabriel's gonna call, we'll talk to
him. I've also got a comment from

526
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.679
a former juvenile court judge. There's
a lot of questions about why didn't Jaden

527
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:37.679
Delora do jail time? Why was
he allowed to you know, why wasn't

528
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:42.199
this a part of his Why didn't
everybody know about this? So we'll get

529
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:46.519
into the whole issue with Jaden Delaora
uh and his and his uh the sexual

530
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:50.480
assault thing that he had back in
Hawaii. So stick around for all of

531
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Sports fourteen fifty. I'm your host
today, Jay Gonzalez. My partner,

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Steve Rivera is out today and he'll
be out on Monday as well. I've

579
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got no one here running the board
and keeping me company. And uh,

580
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:27.039
you've got a lot of stuff to
talk about. So, as I mentioned

581
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:31.679
before, we hit the break.
There's an athletic department issued their statement regarding

582
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:35.679
Jayden Delora. Here it is.
It's a very it's a short statement.

583
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:38.400
I'll read it and then both No
and I will respond to it. We

584
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:42.000
want to take your calls on this. We've already got a caller on hold

585
00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:45.000
who wants to talk about this.
But I've also got it. I've also

586
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:47.159
got a comment from a juvenile court, a former juvenal court judge that I

587
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:51.199
want to read to you. That
will bring a little bit of clarity to

588
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:53.920
why Jayden never did any jail time, why his records were sealed, all

589
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:57.960
that kind of stuff. So here's
a statement from the u of A in

590
00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:01.360
the fall of twenty twenty two,
after complaint was filed. The keyword there's

591
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:07.679
after a civil complaint was filed against
football student athlete Jaden de Laura. The

592
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:12.440
University of Arizona first became aware of
a twenty eighteen incident evolving de Laura,

593
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.440
which occurred while he was in high
school in Hawaii. After reviewing the matter,

594
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:21.440
the determination was made to allow de
Laura to continue as a student athlete

595
00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:27.559
and his status remains unchanged. End
a statement, that's it. You know

596
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:31.960
and having been involved in public relations
where you had to get lawyers in and

597
00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:36.280
stuff like this, This took them
twenty four hours or a little more than

598
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:39.320
twenty four hours to craft. I'm
telling lawyers at the highest level at the

599
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:45.119
UFA were involved in this. This
was carefully crafted. And what it says

600
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:49.719
is his status remains unchanged. There's
already people on social media said they've left

601
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:53.719
the door open to maybe do something
later, saying today he's still on the

602
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:59.559
football team and nothing is different from
yesterday to the day before. The question

603
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:01.440
I I know a lot of people
had was why didn't the u of A

604
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:07.000
know about this before he got here
or you know, when when they were

605
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:12.320
recruiting him. And the key to
that is the whole thing wasn't done in

606
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:16.239
juvenile court. It was all sealed. Uh, there's nothing available. Nobody

607
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:21.880
has any details of what happened other
than what's now contained in the civil complaint,

608
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.480
which is what the u of A
now I'm sure has in its hands.

609
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:30.079
Um. You know, in my
time as a as a reporter,

610
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:32.679
I got to know a lot of
judges here in town, and I got

611
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:39.199
I got just a comment from a
former juvenal court judge who had this to

612
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:44.800
say, because because there's so many
questions about why did all this get handled

613
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:50.079
uh in a in juvenile court and
not as an adulter or whatever. I

614
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:53.920
got permission to read this. The
juvenile court is about second chances, rehabilitation,

615
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:59.800
anonymity, and restorative justice. In
Arizona, he would have been transferred

616
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:04.840
to adult court. Remember the amendment
to the state constitution do adult crime do

617
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:09.320
adult time quotes? He would have
faced mandatory time and lifetime sex registration.

618
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:16.679
Um, the thing says a sexual
Um. Uh, I can't think of

619
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:21.800
the word, but anyways, Um, the consent talking point is nonsense.

620
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:27.159
The victim was a juvenile legally incapable
of consent, and the consent argument was

621
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:31.239
something that's been made by Dolores Friend. Uh. You know that that he

622
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:36.519
claimed that the thing was consensual.
And what this is saying is that at

623
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:39.519
sixteen years old, you're not capable
of giving consent to something like that.

624
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:45.360
So, but the thing is another
key word, and there's anonymity and second

625
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:49.480
chances. This was handled at the
juvenile court level so that more or less

626
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:53.039
all of these people can go on
with their lives. Now, you know,

627
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:55.159
the victim has to deal with this
the rest of her life, as

628
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:59.559
you know, as does Jayden,
as does the other the other athlete whose

629
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:01.960
it was. But the victim,
you know, and I said this at

630
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:07.320
the top of the show yesterday,
She's gonna have a lifetime of this being

631
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:12.280
part of her past. And that's
not easy. It's not you know what.

632
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:15.639
She may have already had some you
know, some therapy over this,

633
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:17.440
she may have to have some later
on in her life. You know,

634
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:20.920
she's gonna have kids. Is she
going to talk to kids about it?

635
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:22.159
You know, so many things that
go with this, so you know,

636
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:25.400
again, first consideration has to be
to her. But for some reason,

637
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:30.159
in Hawaii, this was handled at
the juvenile court level. Everything was sealed,

638
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:35.280
so there was there was no way
for Arizona or Wisconsin to know about

639
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:37.960
this. And so I'm not trying
to defend what defend that, I'm just

640
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:42.960
saying that's a fact. So unless
Jade Delora was going to come and say,

641
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.519
oh, by the way, if
you look into my past, I

642
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:46.880
had this, that was the only
way they're gonna find out about it.

643
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:52.320
And again, if the intent was
to seal it so that they could all

644
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:57.159
move on, why was he going
to say that right. So, so

645
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:00.199
now here's the deal. They found
out about it because of this lawsuit.

646
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:06.159
Delora and the other player had had
to settle this lawsuit. They've given this

647
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:10.679
victim and her family some money,
I guess, and an apology and the

648
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:15.000
case has been settled and it's done, and all of this is now done.

649
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:17.199
So the question has become, what
do you do with Jaden Delora?

650
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:22.760
So this is what the u of
A's a statement says. Wisconsin was a

651
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:25.280
similar statement that they didn't know about
it until the civil suit came out.

652
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:30.000
Now they know about it. That
player's status remains the same. So let's

653
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:34.039
go and take this call and see
what see what Gabriel has to say about

654
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:37.880
this. Hi, Gabriel, you're
on the air, Yes, Hi.

655
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:45.320
So, UM, I was gonna
talk about about Jaden Delora's going to happen.

656
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:52.599
So I'm happy that Arizona came up
with the same man because I was

657
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:57.199
kind of worry about it because I
hope that they get in front of get

658
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:06.360
in front of UM again from the
news and also and UM and and also

659
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:13.559
UM. They need to do an
internal investigation to see if they knew about

660
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:21.360
it or if they didn't and I
don't know which punishment would be. Okay,

661
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:23.039
let me ask you this, do
you think he should be punished in

662
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:31.760
some form? I think he should
be not played for one game? Okay?

663
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:37.400
One game suspension? Yeah, one
game suspension? Okay? Are you

664
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:40.119
Are you okay with the rest of
the statement? I mean, are you

665
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:45.199
okay with the fact that Arizona did
not know about this? And I didn't

666
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:49.440
know. I didn't I don't know
what they said. Okay. What they

667
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:52.480
said was they did not they didn't
were not aware of this until the level

668
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:59.199
until the last fall when the civil
lawsuit came to became public and or they

669
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:01.880
they you know, was filed,
So they didn't know about it until last

670
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:06.320
fall. I mean, I don't
know. I don't know how they would

671
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:07.119
have found out about it. But
you know, what are your thoughts on

672
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:13.840
that? I believe what they said. I've seen they didn't know about it

673
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:21.239
until Jaden Delora transfer into Arizona.
But like I said, I don't think

674
00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:24.880
Key needs to be kicked off as
the team and I think he just needs

675
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:30.480
to be suspended for one game,
and then can't I just say two more

676
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:37.159
things? Sure? So I'm just
gonna Arizona's first first game is on September

677
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:45.239
the fair correct, correct, So
three months before the first game. This

678
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:51.480
may sound really harsh, but justin
lockin politics, the American public has an

679
00:45:51.480 --> 00:46:00.679
attentional span of a goldfish. They
do. And I sure know that the

680
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:07.119
Niama Falls at Asu are and are
making fun of us. So yeah,

681
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:10.360
whatever, I'm sure they are.
I'm sure they are. All right,

682
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:13.760
Gabriel, thank you for your phone
call, Thank you for your comments.

683
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:19.079
Thank you you guys, you rock. Thank you. All right, let's

684
00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:21.480
take some more calls on that.
Five two zero four one, six seventy

685
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:22.719
four forty The question, the question
now becomes, you know, what do

686
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:27.280
you do with Jaden Delora? Do
you suspend him a game, a couple

687
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:31.280
of games? Do nothing? Um? You know again going back to a

688
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:34.760
comment that was made to me,
you know, a big deal now with

689
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.159
Jayden Delorias, you know, how
does he respond to this? What does

690
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:40.440
he do? You know? Does
he does he continue to show remorse for

691
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:45.280
this? Is he is he uh? You know, empathetic with the victim?

692
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:49.559
Does you know? Is he gonna? Is he gonna? I don't

693
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:51.920
know how you turn something like this
to a positive, but is he gonna

694
00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:55.960
do something, you know, in
his life to kind of rectify, not

695
00:46:57.079 --> 00:47:01.159
rectified, but just to um just
to show that he knows that what he

696
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:07.800
did was completely wrong. Right.
I mean, I think I'm not honestly,

697
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:09.599
I'm not surprised that this type of
stuff happens for Arizona football, just

698
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:14.400
because it's like, like, I
don't think anyone should be surprised that if

699
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:17.199
there's like any team, happens everywhere. But it's like, just yeah,

700
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:20.960
that's the thing. It's like here
especially, It's like I'm not I'm not

701
00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:23.719
like shocked. I just don't understand
how they didn't know, like if they

702
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:28.559
put no effort into that, because
wasn't this like ongoing. Well here's the

703
00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:31.880
thing, you know, they found
out about it when something became public over

704
00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:37.760
this, which was the civil lawsuit. What I would think is that now

705
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:43.119
may or maybe going forward, whether
it's probably legal. It's like you ask,

706
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:47.920
Okay, is there something about your
past that I ought to know?

707
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:53.119
You know that that you think if
we find out about because I know,

708
00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:57.320
you know, you kind of get
asset in job interviews, right, you

709
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.760
know, you know, or if
you're running for a political office, right,

710
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:06.320
your handlers are going to say,
Okay, what's in your past that

711
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:12.480
we should we should know about that
if if you're running for office, or

712
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:16.719
if you're in this high, high
level position or highly visible position, that

713
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:20.840
it's going to embarrass the hell out
of us. Is there anything out there

714
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:24.360
maybe that becomes part of a I
don't know if they you know, if

715
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:29.679
somebody's getting recruited, if they have
to fill out a questionnaire or they're interviewed

716
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:32.679
or whatever. Let's take this call
real quick. Higher on the are and

717
00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:39.400
on the ball, Hi, guys, it's Jim Hey, Jim more.

718
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:46.519
When this happened, he was sixteen
years old and in the case who was

719
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:51.840
totally sealed when he left there.
Yes, it was all done at the

720
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:55.760
juvenile court level. Um if he
got put on probation, it was only

721
00:48:57.039 --> 00:49:00.199
up until he became an adult.
Everything was under the jewel court. Uh,

722
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:04.440
Austins, He did not. He
was not you know, tried or

723
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:07.760
sentenced or anything as an adult.
Everything was in the juvenile court. And

724
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:19.119
does anybody know what he actually did? According according to the lawsuit, this

725
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:22.920
was in the civil Uh. In
the civil lawsuit was that he lured a

726
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:28.280
girl into a stairwell with his friend
and they forced her to have sex with

727
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:35.400
them. Oh and that's and he
pleaded guilty to the charge. Okay,

728
00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:39.440
as a juvenile, he's he's settled
the case with He and the other player

729
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:43.599
have both settled the case with the
girl. So they've basically admitted to what

730
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:47.159
has alleged to have what they've alleged
to have happened. So we can't say,

731
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:50.880
we're not gonna sit here and say, you know, he allegedly did

732
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:53.320
this. He allegedly did that.
He's admitted to doing the things that that

733
00:49:53.840 --> 00:50:00.519
that the victim claims that he did. Yeah, that's that's which to get

734
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:07.280
for his exactly it does it.
There wasn't a trial or anything. He

735
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:12.760
pleaded guilty, both of them did. It makes me wonder how he even

736
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:15.480
got away away. Well, that's
that's the thing. Um. You know

737
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:20.440
this uhot former juvenile court judge that
you know sent me a little I just

738
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:23.360
asked him. You know, he
said, in Arizona, even at sixteen,

739
00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:27.519
he would have been he would have
been handled as an adult in Arizona.

740
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:30.079
This happened in Hawaii. They didn't
do that in Hawaii. Whatever the

741
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:36.000
reasoning was back there. Uh,
that's that's what happened, and they labeled

742
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:43.440
it a sexual or sexual assault.
But he's not I read somewhere he is

743
00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:46.119
not. Uh, he does not
have to register as a sex offender.

744
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:52.760
That this is all over with.
Well, you would thinking at age sixteen,

745
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:57.840
you know, you might be allowed
a mistake. Yeah, and that

746
00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:00.559
and that's the point that and that's
one of the things that this former judge

747
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:02.079
said. He said, you know, juvenile courts some a lot of times

748
00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:06.719
these things are handled with the idea
that if these guys are you know,

749
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:09.599
have the uh, if you can
count on the fact that they're going to

750
00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:15.159
not be repetitive or that this is
kind of a one a one off,

751
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:17.320
that they'll cut him some slack second
chance. So hey, Jim, we

752
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:21.800
gotta go. We got top of
the hour, gotta get to our break.

753
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:25.039
Thanks for calling. Thank you.
All right, let's go and take

754
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:28.079
our break right at the top of
the hour. Breaking news, some other

755
00:51:28.119 --> 00:51:30.320
stuff happening around here, so we'll
talk about that. But we'd love to

756
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:34.519
get more of your calls on this
issue. Five to zero four one six

757
00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:35.760
seventy four four to give us a
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