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Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm your host for the day,
Jay Gonzalez. My partner Steve is out today. He's gonna go out today
and on Monday. So today it's me and Noah. No's it's a good
day. It's a big day. I feel like it's it's we got blessed
that it's not one of those days or nothing goes on. Yeah, but
uh it's a memple Friday tonight, some good games, good good stuff.
We got some NBA stuff going on tonight. We've Scott some ongoing stuff.
Um, you know, still haven't heard from the u of A on on
on the Jagen Delora thing. Wisconsin did issue a statement yesterday, but we
haven't heard anything from Arizona, which I kind of wish we would, But
we'll get to that in a second. Um, So you know, some
other stuff, men's tennis. I'm this one. I'm keeping an eye on
because we've had we've had Um Clancy Shields, the u of A men's tennis
coach on a couple of times. And they're in the middle of their NC
double a first round match with the Boise State. Uh, they've taken the
doubles point. And for those of you who aren't familiar with this, the
way a tennis matches scored a contennis matches scored. They play three doubles matches.
Whoever wins two out of three gets the one point for doubles. Then
they play six singles matches. It's the first one to four four matches wins
wins the match. So Arizona has the doubles match. So all they have
to do a split the six singles matches and they win. They're up in
three of those four of those. UM, so it's it's looking, you
know, very good for Arizona to move on there. But we'll keep it
on that a little bit. But that's just something that UM just got.
It's got my interest because Clancy Shields have been such a great guest. He
really appreciates being on our show. We had him on ahead of the ahead
of the tournament. They're very excited and this is kind of historic fair zonus
in the middle of their match right now and then, um, you know,
a lot a lot of breaking stuff. But U, this thing with
Alabama and their baseball team is continues to to come up with little tidbits of
news or finding to warn more about that what's the what's the what's the main
storyline? Well, here's what happened, and it's starting to come out as
to more specifically what happened. We covered a little bit of this yesterday.
But the deal was at Alabama was starting in a three game series with LSU,
Alice's number one in the country. Um and uh, right before the
game, like within an hour or so before the game, Alabama, Uh,
their head head coach Brad bohan And had to take their starting pitcher and
put him on the bench. He's game. He had a bad back.
So they're ace and in college baseball, your Friday starter, your first day
starting. This is the last Friday. Your first day starter is your best
pitcher. It's all of a sudden, they're gonna have to pitch some guy
who hasn't pitched in a long time. Yeah, all right. Apparently he
relayed that information to a guy who is a it's come out that he was
a former high school baseball coach. Don't know how he's connected to Bohanon yet.
But this guy in Cincinnati who goes over to the Cincinnati Reds Stadium Great
America Park, there's a sports book there and he laid down a couple of
wagers on Alibat on LSU. They were called sizable wagers. Now, a
sizable wager in the NFL, college football, college basketball is in the thousands,
hundreds of thousands. Sometimes we know about Mattress Mac who bets millions of
dollars. So the standard of what's a sizable wager in those sports it is
probably different from what's a sizable wager on a sport that hardly anybody ever bets
on, which is right. Fan Duel in the aftermath of this, reported
that in all the fan duel states and all over the country, they didn't
take one bet on Alabama LSU. Not one. So somebody goes into this
sports book and lays down a single bet on LSU and then puts LSU in
a parlay while he's in the sports book. Surveillance video they when they were
investigating the surveillance videos, somehow I don't know what kind of surveillance video they
had said that on his phone they could see that he was in contact with
the Alabama baseball coach while he was making these bets. So they're talking somehow,
So so what do you what do you mean? Like they didn't They
didn't take a single bet. Nobody, nobody else bet on this game except
this guy. So there was like one bet, right, So drew suspicion
that some guy not only was betting on Alabama LSU baseball, but he's betting
a significant amounting, right, So they had something's up. Somebody's doing.
You know, somebody knows something. Here's the thing is that and and and
you know, for the longest time that people wanted to get gambling legalized was
because of the ability to monitor legalize gambling. When people are gambling with bookies
and whatnot, you don't know what the hell is going on, right,
of course, you know, when you go back to the Headache Smith thing
up at ASCU, the point shaving thing up at the ACU basketball the reason
that got found out that was found out was because people were betting on ASU
games in Vegas. Vegas detected that there was some suspicious activity going on,
and that's how they got caught. Same thing with this, It was unusual
for somebody to be betting this much money on an Alabama baseball game, particularly
to be betting on an Alabama baseball game in Cincinnati. So basically, a
guy in Cincinnati bet on an Alabama baseball game and put a very large amount
on it, and he was the only person in the entire country to bet
that game. More or less. So if you, if you like asked
me, if you were like me, give me away, give me away
where you place a bet and make it as obvious as you can that you're
gonna get caught. Like that's what I would do. Ye, go bet
one hundred thousand dollars on an obscure sport if I, if I asked you
to go, put five thousand dollars bet for me somewhere, you know,
at a sports book on an Arizona basketball game. Nobody's gonna think twice about
that. But you tell me to put If I tell you to put that
on an Arizona baseball game, red flags go up. And that's what happened.
There were red flags. They looked into it. They immediately stopped taking
bets on Alabama baseball although nobody else was betting on it. Two other states
did the same thing, and investigating this, they found out that the guy
who was laying the bets was in contact with Brad Bohan and three days later,
Brad Bohan and the baseball coach at Alabama is fired. So you know
that Alabama found something that said we got to fire this guy and they fired
him. So, but do you think that has to do with him like
giving the information out? Yeah? So, so this guy in Cincinnati was
he's not he got no, he's not related to the team, but he's
apply got some kind of connection with Brad Bohannon, the baseball coach. Because
what this guy did was he went and laid some bets down on information that
wasn't available to anybody else. Brad Bohann called say, hey, my guy,
my start, My ace is not pitching tonight against LSU. The guy
who's pitching isn't going to beat him. They're gonna kick our asses. Go
put some money down on LSUM. That's what they're alleged. Okay, okay,
I would make that their allegend that he was in contact with Bohannon.
Bohan told him what was going on. Whether Bohannon did that or the guy
said, hey, I want to place, you know, a bet on
your team. What do I need to know? Whatever it was, Bohannon
provided information to this guy. This guy made the bets. Now Bohannon's fired
because they've apparently determined that he had a hand in these bets that were made.
My question is if they find out that the only thing that was done
was he just said what was like the details, nothing about any money wherever,
just said it's going to be this picture instead. Do you think that's
a fireball offense? Again, it depends on the circumstances. If he was
sending text messages and he was telling the guy go bet on this right,
or he or the guy said, hey, I'm gonna bet on your team.
What I need to know and he tells him that he knowingly gives him
information that he knows is going to be used for dambling. That's a fireball
offense to be exactly. So Like for me, it's like, yes,
if he had any influence, I who knows the way he said it.
If it was like a phone call he was like hinting that maybe you should
you know, there's a really good chance that you should put money here,
like no one else knows, you know this, right, It's like if
it wasn't that, it was kind of just the other thing like that could
have slips him just saying it. I don't know. Well, the fact
that they fired him, I mean it applies there something they've determined that he
was. He had, he had an influence on this guy making these bets,
and now he's out of a job. The thing is, you know,
no, uh, how much money was he going to make on a
bet like that? Right? Ls he was probably favored like how to beat
Alabama? Anyways? Who's going to make some money off of that? Not
very much? Certainly, this guy's getting paid nearly half a million dollars a
year to cold be the Alabama baseball coach and now he's out of a job
and he was fired for cause he's not getting a buy out or anything.
Right, He's like he's cut off. So how much could it have been
even if the guy best, Even if the guy bet five let's say,
bet five thousand dollars, the money line on this is probably going to be
minus or or you know, uh, five hundred or something like he was
gonna make you know a couple of a few hundred dollars that hasn't come out
how much the bet was. All that's come out is it was a it
was a bet, a single bet on the game, and then that game
was included in a parlay. It's the part of everything else hit. I
don't know. That's like I can't have been late, but it's like I
don't know. Yeah, the thing is and here's there's a big piece of
this is that people who didn't want gambling legalized or saying, see, we
told you this was going to happen. But what we what those people don't
know when none of us know, is how much this was happening underground with
bookies and stuff right where this guy got caught because gambling was legal. Like
we'll think about it. It's like it's like, yeah, that, but
it's like you find like for every like rat that you find, there's like
ten in the walls here right Like it's it's like it's like, I mean,
I think it obviously would have been different unless you found like hundreds of
people betting on this game and they were scattered from vacations. That would make
a big difference. But it's like, yeah, see, and that's what
happened. That's what happened in the ASU thing, in the ASU thing,
all of a sudden, for this one game, there was all this action
on ASU basketball because word got out that points were being shaved. So all
these guys and mostly students from ASU were driving up to Vegas and flooding the
sports book and making bets and that's what you know, caused the red flag.
And that's how those guys got caught. There's a great there's a great
HBO documentary on this. Um Our friend Ken Summers has been on on the
on the show number of times. He was a reporter covering NASCU basketball at
the time he's on, he's a part of the part of the documentary.
But it's fascinating they don't find these things out. If Cami, if gamily
is not legal. Let's take this call. Hi, run they are and
on the ball. Hey you guys, um this Hey Gabriel from California.
UM, do do you guys have time on to talk about what's going on?
We do, but you know what, We're gonna go to a break
here in a couple of minutes. And then we got a guest. Why
don't you call us back after the guest, so probably probably about three forty
okay, and then we'll we'll talk about it then because we're running out of
time for our first break, but we we want to talk about it because
there's there's you know, there's obviously stuff going on with that. We've got
our guests, Hurt his chin from the Sugar Skulls coming on in a couple
of minutes, So call us about three forty okay. Sounds great, talk
to you soon, got it. I guess I should remember I should let
let our listeners know Hurt his Chin head culture of the two soon Sugar Skulls
they've got. They're back on the field this weekend. They took last weekend
off after a very disappointing loss, uh last second still overtime loss to San
Diego. Excuse me, um. We'll have hurt us talk about what's been
going on over the last two weeks on the heels of this thing. And
then at at four or fifteen, Jake Fisher, who'll, uh, we'll
pick Jake's brain on all of this stuff. Jade Delora h Jayden Bradley,
who's you know, come to Arizona after kind of being tied to this this
uh, this murder in uh in Alabama, UM, and just all the
other stuff. Jake always gives us a good perspective having been a college athlete.
So we'll talk to Jake about all of that. But anyway, just
real quickly getting back to this whole issue with the gambling thing. So you
know, that's how you get caught by this stuff being legal. So you
know, the people who keep arguing about gambling on sports shouldn't be legal,
they're they're arguing about the wrong thing. This is how this is, This
is how these things get caught, and this is this coach got caught.
There's gonna be there's gonna be situations like this. But what we don't know
is how many of these are. They're already out there where guys were doing
this with bookies way more than way more than we know, way more than
we know way more. So that's you know, I mean, that's the
whole deal. So, um, this is this is gonna be going on.
And look at the media is after this a lot of investigations. It's
with a public school, so documents and stuff like that are gonna be uh,
you know, are gonna be public and we're gonna find out more and
more, to my way of thinking, if this guy did this, this
wasn't the first time he did this, right, I mean, yeah,
it's there's a likelihood that this was the first time in terms of something like
this. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, when Pete Rose
gambled on baseball, he did it more than once. Oh yeah, right,
finally got caught. So all right, that's gonna take our break.
We're gonna have a hurt his chin head coach of the Tucson Sugar Skulls.
He'll come in and talk a little bit about his team. They've got a
big game with Northern Arizona Wranglers, the defending IFL champions, this Saturday at
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is I am the ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Welcome back to the
Balling on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm your host of Jay Gonzalez. My
partner Steve is out for the next two days today and Monday. I've got
Noah here running the board and keeping me company. And on the phone.
We've got Tucson Sugar Sculls head coach, hurt his chin, coming off a
very difficult loss, but took the week off. Probably gathered yourself and hurt
us. Want to talk to you about how things are going. How are
you today? I'm better than wonderful today. How are you awesome? Awesome?
That's great to hear. So last time we saw you, we were
coming off the field. Had a tough loss over time to San Diego,
a game that we all know. It came down to one play on that
He'll marry and you guys could have won the game ended up not. You
go into the into a bye week, so you've got a couple of weeks
to chew on this, but just tell me what your approach has been since
that game. Since that game. First, the first thing I did with
the players is when we got in and I asked them what did they learn
from it? It was some things that, you know, some things happened
selfishly that if we would have put the team first, the game would have
been over. But that's neither here nor there. We just went in the
approach with Okay, this whole season is a journey. It's a learning process
for everybody out there, coaches and players collectively. So that's the approach we
took first and foremost, what did we learn from the game? And as
coaches, we went back in the lab and you know, added some extra
pieces to the office, you know, to make us more explosive on office,
to make us that played better as a team. And it loosen some
ends, I mean, you spent it, some loose ends we had as
a whole. So we took it. And more importantly, I let the
players rest just to give them a chance to miss football, you know,
to get you know, back to things and be eager to get back to
it. So when you had that talk with them after the game, What
was the respons or did you get a sense of a response or how they
were taking it and where you're happy with what you saw? Uh, it
was it was more so you know, people thinking back to things they could
have did better and you know, apologizing forward and things of that nature.
And that was a reminder for me as the head coaches, just to remind
everybody, like everybody's going to have their chance to mess up in the course
of a game, but we need to limit those things and limit those mistakes
so we don't have to feel like this and look like this after game,
especially in front of you know, our home crowd, which we want to
protect that home field. So we learned from the game and they were you
know, they didn't take it lightly. They knew that what was at stake.
You know, they loud that we let one slip away. So we
did everything in our power necessary to you know, moving forward to not let
it happen again. Right, So the good news for you guys, as
you're still in first place by half a game, you're three and one with
those three wins on the road. So, uh, you you talked about
you know, fixing up some loose sands, picked doing some things in this
last last couple of weeks. What are some of those things that you're talking
about? So, you know, going back to the last game, we
had a new center in who you know, uh, just wasn't adjusted to
this game, so to speak. So we bought a Cordell Boost in the
center from last year. That point of the offense is a key essential part
of our offense that sometimes in a running game, just looking at it from
a fan perspective, they might not understand. Okay, they may see us
get two yards when we should have got twelve. That point, that center
of our offense is essential. And we added some speed with a young man
named Emetrius Scott on a perimeter at receiver. So those two things in itself
should make us way more explosive on offense. Okay, and uh, you
know we've we've talked about your quarterback. He's you know, he was an
offensive Rookie of the Year last year. Um, just how's he taking to,
you know, being a sugar skull being in your system? How do
you feel he's uh, you know, he's adopted to what you guys are
doing. This week, he excelled pretty well. He's finally catching on you
know, Uh, this this offense, this system is a little more structured
than what he was used to. So now he just had to get adjusted
to that, like any quarterback will have to do in a new system.
This week he hit the ground running. We had some meetings over the off
week to what me and him could get better on the same page as that,
you know, so he could basically think like I think while he's out
there on the field. And it showed this week of practice and I'm excited
to see how he plays this week. What what about what Ramon Atkins do
you like the moster? You know? Uh? In terms of his physical
skills, I mean, what does he best at? Uh? He's He's
Ramone is best at h when it comes when it comes to his script.
It stress as a quarterback as his physicality is his arm script Ramon. If
you look at some of the deep balls he threw in some of those games,
they were brutiful, they were. His ball placement on the deep balls
are beautiful. So we have to, you know, work on some thing
as far as his mid range. And you know he gets the ball out
fast also when need be, when the hitches. So a lot of quarterbacks
when you throw like short routes, sorts like hitches and quick out they have
to grab the laces and adjust the ball to throw them. He's a quarterback
that can get the ball and throw outs and hitches without the laces, which
is a gift to be able to do. Actually, got it. Got
it. So when we talked to the first time a preseason you mentioned that
you feel like he's a much better pocket passer than for instance, d qwan
Neil, who was here last year. Um do you do you still seeing
that? Is he better in the pocket? Yeah? He just gotta you
know, that broke the same and different in some aspects. He just gotta
get used to what we do here in Tucson. And unfortunately, while the
task we take on his coaches, it's realizing that you know a young man
that might have had fifteen years of doing the same thing wrong. It's hard
to fix in a month or two weeks or three weeks, and it don't
happen on our time, you know. So that's that's what we signed up
for as coaches. But as coaches, we also we put the time in
the working to speed that process up. And this week he looked at the
marvelous in practice and us as a team offensive defense, we hit the ground
running this week moving forward. Yeah, okay, so well let's let's let's
move over to the defense. You guys are one of the top defenses in
the in the in the league. You're facing the top defense in the league
this week in Northern Arizona. But uh, you know, I mean,
when when I heard that you were going to be the head coach, I'm
thinking, okay, you know he heard it's been an offensive coordinator. Let's
see, you know, let's see how this offense looks. And I don't
know if I wouldn't say defense was an afterthought, but certainly something that you
know, you you obviously got some guys to come in and work the defense
to where you're one of the best in the league. Talk us a little
bit about what you've seen with your team defensively. That was a point of
this emphasis coming even down from ownership on the off season. Again, like
you say, everybody knows, you know, I'm a guy when it comes
to I'm a coach when it comes to this game that does well on offense.
So it was something to look at that, you know, no position
as a head coach can I put together a defense that's coming and competing the
competitive every week, you know, or getting stopped holding team the minimum points.
Will I hire you the right guy in place, you know, to
make those things happen. And so far they've been happening and at a you
know, a great rate for us. You know, defense has been getting
enough stopped even the game we lost that you know they did, getting enough
stopped that we should have won that ball game. They've been pulling their weight
from a defensive lime standpoint, a linebacker standpoint, the secondary is playing well,
just minimizing you know, big plays when it comes to our defense.
So it came from a lot of off season granted with me, coach Hendricks
and coach action on that side of the ball. And then secondly those guys
dying in when they got to Tucson and this shows, Okay, well,
what do you like bet most about the defense and what they're doing in terms
of, you know what aspect of the game. Like you're talking about,
you know, Ramon Atkins a very physical guyman, what do you like about
your defense? It's something that so when I got interviewed for this job,
I told, you know, our owners Cathay guy that we're gonna have organized
chaos on defense. And that's one thing I talked to coach Hendricks about and
coach Jackson about in the off season. Let's just have organized chaos, meaning
that we know exactly what we're doing, exactly what we should be when we
should be there. But to an offense, it's confusing. So that's what
we've been doing on defense. We've been getting those stops because on key downs,
when people are thinking they see one look, we're moving around and creating
another look and it's confusing the quarterbacks and receivers. So the one thing we've
been doing well, you know this first quarter of the season, basically it
is doing well to have the organized chaos on decent. So talk us a
little bit about what Mike Jones is meant to you guys. He's, you
know, as we like to say, you know, the face of the
organization in terms of a player. He's been here every year. He's kind
of a steady guy out there. What has he been contributing to you guys
this year. I'm just from the practice standpoint. He set the standard from
a practice standpoint. Also in that locker room when it comes to practice,
Mike Jones comes to work every day. He comes to work hard every day,
and when we out there on that field, you'll you'll see Mike Jones
that he doesn't even want to get out in practice. You know, most
players don't want to get out you know, when it comes to games,
but they'll you know, relax in practice. Mike Jones doesn't want to get
out there practice. So when it comes times to put those work, to
put that extra effort in, He's been a great, great tool for us,
a great great player for us in this organization of just setting a standard
this is the way it should be in Tucson. We come to put the
work in every day here and it's been a you know, a wonderful thing
that the coaches have got the experience as well as the players. So you've
got the Northern Arizona Wranglers, who you know, relatively new franchise but you
know, got out there and won a championship last year. Um, they're
they're you know, half a game behind you. So this is an important
game in the standings for you guys. Tell us a little bit about what
we can expect this weekend with the Wranglers coming in. We expect them to
come play hard. We expect them, you know, we expect their coaches
to tell them that they come to Tucson to win this game, that they
will be in the first place in this division, sitting pretty well, you
know, moving forward, and in quite the contrary on our side, were
very aware of the situation when it comes to standing. We know that our
division in this Western Conference is a very tough division and it's a week the
week battle for every team in this conference from top to bottom. You know,
it's some great coaches around the league, great coaches in this conference as
a whole. So we were very aware of the situation coming in in this
week. We know that they're coming in and in first place, and we're
coming in to defend first place and play well in front our home crowd.
More importantly so this weekend. Uh, you know, it's a pretty good
crowd last week, I mean, did you feel like you got the atmosphere
that you were hoping for for your opener? And uh, what are you
hoping for this week? Yeah, it was a crowd. We appreciate it,
and we we you know, we appreciate every person that came to support
us in that first game, and it was it was the energy was there
from the start of the game. Our players felt good about it. You
know, it was a start to build off. Now, you know,
when it comes to putting us out there on the field, it's just on
us to you know, do better and win games in front our home crowd.
To bring that energy in front of our home crowd in you know,
this week, this's the post single Damayo party, which they're gonna have five
dollar years and bibbleheads going around crazy in the facility. So we want everybody
to continue to come out and support us, and we're going to continue to
come out and play hard for our home crowd. And this time, you
know, it won't You shouldn't end like you're end the last game, but
we're very aware of it and we're very thankful for the turnout. I heard
it, you know, I love I love how you sound. You sound
like you're having fun. I mean, I know this is you know,
it's a job. It's worked, but you gotta have you sound like you
haven't having a lot of fun with this. I really am. And you
know, sometimes if you could ask some of our players. We also have
meetings here and our meetings that half five meetings are not even about football.
You know, it's about, Okay, what are we gonna do next?
Because we went out of the boys and girls club in the community once.
Now it's about what are we gonna do next in the community? And two
soon? How are we as men? How do you feel today? You
know, like how is what is? You know, what is your thoughts
about life? So we have a lot of that talk and it makes football
easier. So to answer a question to you know, just to speak on
what you made reference to. I'm having a lot of fun because I'm all
about the next generation and young men, and we do it through the game
of football. And there's something I love to do, and we're gonna build
this thing together, all right. So you know, and you're not halfway
through your season, but you know, between training camp and whatnot, you
know, you you've kind of moved along. Our things still seeming new to
the guys or is everybody kind of settled in and say, okay that you
know, we're getting used to stuff. We know what you know, we
know what we gotta do where we gotta be. We know, you know,
practice, uh, the way practice is being done that kind of stuff.
Do you feel like the guys are settled in, particularly some of the
newer guys I do. I used to see after this week, this bye
week was well for us. I think coming in this bye week, it
wasn't no sluggish you know, sometimes things come back sluggish. From about week
we came back flying around, which is a great sight to see. You
know, in coaches, a lot of how we feel is what we see
out there on the field throughout the week. That's how we feel going into
a game. So going into this game, from what we put out there
on the practice week, all of us as a unit, we feel good.
So I think guys are really really coming into their own in Tucson and
starting to get familiar with how things here goes Howard structured. And you know,
from there you kind of see that, Okay, the players are taking
over. Hey we should be here this time. They are here. They're
ready to go. You know, even if you know, they don't have
to wait on coaches per se, because they know what's going on on a
day to day basis. Right. All right, Herris, Well, good
luck tomorrow. We'll see if we can get the place packed a little bit.
Then get get babbled, get a battle ahead of what the first thousand
is that who gets a bobble ahead tomorrow the first thousand, come in and
get a bobblehead. Let's go crazy now tomorrow night. Let's have a fun
hype atmosphere with some of those five dollars drinks and nachos and every single hope
to see everybody there. All right, Hurris, thanks a bunch, We
will see you tomorrow, all right, thank you. Hurdis chen Head coaches
Tuson shut because look, the guy is always upbeat. I'm telling you.
After the game, I mean, it was a it was a I'm gonna
it was a terrible loss. If they knocked down to Hill Mary at the
end of the game, last play the game, they win the game,
they did, they go to overtime, they lose. We get, you
know, we get an interview with him on the field right after the game.
He was smiling. It was like, you know, I mean,
I know the loss stung, but he was you know, he was like,
he didn't look at me, didn't look really pissed off. But I
know he was right, but he didn't. He didn't, you know,
project that. And so he goes to talk to his guys. Yeah,
they're always gonna be those those fans, like fans who you know, assume
that they know what he feels like. They're gonna be like, oh,
he looks so how he's a terrible coach, Like he's not right. And
what I saw it was this guy doesn't is not going to let a loss
like that kill him. And he didn't and you know, and hopefully that
shows tomorrow when they get on the field. So got to reflected it seems
so yeah, that's that's like, that's all you could ask for him,
right, you know, and well, you know, we'll get a player
on and we'll ask him about stuff like that. But they you know,
we we had Carrington Thompson a while back, you know, the wide receiver,
and he basically said he just loves you know, he loves her his
chin because he seems so always so upbeat. So pretty good, all right,
So that game is tomorrow six o'clock. I'll be on the air on
YouTube on the YouTube channel with Pat Paris. The games are also simulcast on
Fox Sports fourteen fifties, so you can listen to it on the radio if
you're in the car, but you can also watch it on YouTube or even
better. You can go to the game six o'clock tomorrow at the Arena.
So let's take a break. We're gonna come back. There's a statement out
from the UFA on Jaden Delora, so we'll go through that. I know
Gabriel's gonna call, we'll talk to him. I've also got a comment from
a former juvenile court judge. There's a lot of questions about why didn't Jaden
Delora do jail time? Why was he allowed to you know, why wasn't
this a part of his Why didn't everybody know about this? So we'll get
into the whole issue with Jaden Delaora uh and his and his uh the sexual
assault thing that he had back in Hawaii. So stick around for all of
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I Heart Radio Whip. This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and
Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Welcome back to the balling on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm your host today, Jay Gonzalez. My partner,
Steve Rivera is out today and he'll be out on Monday as well. I've
got no one here running the board and keeping me company. And uh,
you've got a lot of stuff to talk about. So, as I mentioned
before, we hit the break. There's an athletic department issued their statement regarding
Jayden Delora. Here it is. It's a very it's a short statement.
I'll read it and then both No and I will respond to it. We
want to take your calls on this. We've already got a caller on hold
who wants to talk about this. But I've also got it. I've also
got a comment from a juvenile court, a former juvenal court judge that I
want to read to you. That will bring a little bit of clarity to
why Jayden never did any jail time, why his records were sealed, all
that kind of stuff. So here's a statement from the u of A in
the fall of twenty twenty two, after complaint was filed. The keyword there's
after a civil complaint was filed against football student athlete Jaden de Laura. The
University of Arizona first became aware of a twenty eighteen incident evolving de Laura,
which occurred while he was in high school in Hawaii. After reviewing the matter,
the determination was made to allow de Laura to continue as a student athlete
and his status remains unchanged. End a statement, that's it. You know
and having been involved in public relations where you had to get lawyers in and
stuff like this, This took them twenty four hours or a little more than
twenty four hours to craft. I'm telling lawyers at the highest level at the
UFA were involved in this. This was carefully crafted. And what it says
is his status remains unchanged. There's already people on social media said they've left
the door open to maybe do something later, saying today he's still on the
football team and nothing is different from yesterday to the day before. The question
I I know a lot of people had was why didn't the u of A
know about this before he got here or you know, when when they were
recruiting him. And the key to that is the whole thing wasn't done in
juvenile court. It was all sealed. Uh, there's nothing available. Nobody
has any details of what happened other than what's now contained in the civil complaint,
which is what the u of A now I'm sure has in its hands.
Um. You know, in my time as a as a reporter,
I got to know a lot of judges here in town, and I got
I got just a comment from a former juvenal court judge who had this to
say, because because there's so many questions about why did all this get handled
uh in a in juvenile court and not as an adulter or whatever. I
got permission to read this. The juvenile court is about second chances, rehabilitation,
anonymity, and restorative justice. In Arizona, he would have been transferred
to adult court. Remember the amendment to the state constitution do adult crime do
adult time quotes? He would have faced mandatory time and lifetime sex registration.
Um, the thing says a sexual Um. Uh, I can't think of
the word, but anyways, Um, the consent talking point is nonsense.
The victim was a juvenile legally incapable of consent, and the consent argument was
something that's been made by Dolores Friend. Uh. You know that that he
claimed that the thing was consensual. And what this is saying is that at
sixteen years old, you're not capable of giving consent to something like that.
So, but the thing is another key word, and there's anonymity and second
chances. This was handled at the juvenile court level so that more or less
all of these people can go on with their lives. Now, you know,
the victim has to deal with this the rest of her life, as
you know, as does Jayden, as does the other the other athlete whose
it was. But the victim, you know, and I said this at
the top of the show yesterday, She's gonna have a lifetime of this being
part of her past. And that's not easy. It's not you know what.
She may have already had some you know, some therapy over this,
she may have to have some later on in her life. You know,
she's gonna have kids. Is she going to talk to kids about it?
You know, so many things that go with this, so you know,
again, first consideration has to be to her. But for some reason,
in Hawaii, this was handled at the juvenile court level. Everything was sealed,
so there was there was no way for Arizona or Wisconsin to know about
this. And so I'm not trying to defend what defend that, I'm just
saying that's a fact. So unless Jade Delora was going to come and say,
oh, by the way, if you look into my past, I
had this, that was the only way they're gonna find out about it.
And again, if the intent was to seal it so that they could all
move on, why was he going to say that right. So, so
now here's the deal. They found out about it because of this lawsuit.
Delora and the other player had had to settle this lawsuit. They've given this
victim and her family some money, I guess, and an apology and the
case has been settled and it's done, and all of this is now done.
So the question has become, what do you do with Jaden Delora?
So this is what the u of A's a statement says. Wisconsin was a
similar statement that they didn't know about it until the civil suit came out.
Now they know about it. That player's status remains the same. So let's
go and take this call and see what see what Gabriel has to say about
this. Hi, Gabriel, you're on the air, Yes, Hi.
So, UM, I was gonna talk about about Jaden Delora's going to happen.
So I'm happy that Arizona came up with the same man because I was
kind of worry about it because I hope that they get in front of get
in front of UM again from the news and also and UM and and also
UM. They need to do an internal investigation to see if they knew about
it or if they didn't and I don't know which punishment would be. Okay,
let me ask you this, do you think he should be punished in
some form? I think he should be not played for one game? Okay?
One game suspension? Yeah, one game suspension? Okay? Are you
Are you okay with the rest of the statement? I mean, are you
okay with the fact that Arizona did not know about this? And I didn't
know. I didn't I don't know what they said. Okay. What they
said was they did not they didn't were not aware of this until the level
until the last fall when the civil lawsuit came to became public and or they
they you know, was filed, So they didn't know about it until last
fall. I mean, I don't know. I don't know how they would
have found out about it. But you know, what are your thoughts on
that? I believe what they said. I've seen they didn't know about it
until Jaden Delora transfer into Arizona. But like I said, I don't think
Key needs to be kicked off as the team and I think he just needs
to be suspended for one game, and then can't I just say two more
things? Sure? So I'm just gonna Arizona's first first game is on September
the fair correct, correct, So three months before the first game. This
may sound really harsh, but justin lockin politics, the American public has an
attentional span of a goldfish. They do. And I sure know that the
Niama Falls at Asu are and are making fun of us. So yeah,
whatever, I'm sure they are. I'm sure they are. All right,
Gabriel, thank you for your phone call, Thank you for your comments.
Thank you you guys, you rock. Thank you. All right, let's
take some more calls on that. Five two zero four one, six seventy
four forty The question, the question now becomes, you know, what do
you do with Jaden Delora? Do you suspend him a game, a couple
of games? Do nothing? Um? You know again going back to a
comment that was made to me, you know, a big deal now with
Jayden Delorias, you know, how does he respond to this? What does
he do? You know? Does he does he continue to show remorse for
this? Is he is he uh? You know, empathetic with the victim?
Does you know? Is he gonna? Is he gonna? I don't
know how you turn something like this to a positive, but is he gonna
do something, you know, in his life to kind of rectify, not
rectified, but just to um just to show that he knows that what he
did was completely wrong. Right. I mean, I think I'm not honestly,
I'm not surprised that this type of stuff happens for Arizona football, just
because it's like, like, I don't think anyone should be surprised that if
there's like any team, happens everywhere. But it's like, just yeah,
that's the thing. It's like here especially, It's like I'm not I'm not
like shocked. I just don't understand how they didn't know, like if they
put no effort into that, because wasn't this like ongoing. Well here's the
thing, you know, they found out about it when something became public over
this, which was the civil lawsuit. What I would think is that now
may or maybe going forward, whether it's probably legal. It's like you ask,
Okay, is there something about your past that I ought to know?
You know that that you think if we find out about because I know,
you know, you kind of get asset in job interviews, right, you
know, you know, or if you're running for a political office, right,
your handlers are going to say, Okay, what's in your past that
we should we should know about that if if you're running for office, or
if you're in this high, high level position or highly visible position, that
it's going to embarrass the hell out of us. Is there anything out there
maybe that becomes part of a I don't know if they you know, if
somebody's getting recruited, if they have to fill out a questionnaire or they're interviewed
or whatever. Let's take this call real quick. Higher on the are and
on the ball, Hi, guys, it's Jim Hey, Jim more.
When this happened, he was sixteen years old and in the case who was
totally sealed when he left there. Yes, it was all done at the
juvenile court level. Um if he got put on probation, it was only
up until he became an adult. Everything was under the jewel court. Uh,
Austins, He did not. He was not you know, tried or
sentenced or anything as an adult. Everything was in the juvenile court. And
does anybody know what he actually did? According according to the lawsuit, this
was in the civil Uh. In the civil lawsuit was that he lured a
girl into a stairwell with his friend and they forced her to have sex with
them. Oh and that's and he pleaded guilty to the charge. Okay,
as a juvenile, he's he's settled the case with He and the other player
have both settled the case with the girl. So they've basically admitted to what
has alleged to have what they've alleged to have happened. So we can't say,
we're not gonna sit here and say, you know, he allegedly did
this. He allegedly did that. He's admitted to doing the things that that
that the victim claims that he did. Yeah, that's that's which to get
for his exactly it does it. There wasn't a trial or anything. He
pleaded guilty, both of them did. It makes me wonder how he even
got away away. Well, that's that's the thing. Um. You know
this uhot former juvenile court judge that you know sent me a little I just
asked him. You know, he said, in Arizona, even at sixteen,
he would have been he would have been handled as an adult in Arizona.
This happened in Hawaii. They didn't do that in Hawaii. Whatever the
reasoning was back there. Uh, that's that's what happened, and they labeled
it a sexual or sexual assault. But he's not I read somewhere he is
not. Uh, he does not have to register as a sex offender.
That this is all over with. Well, you would thinking at age sixteen,
you know, you might be allowed a mistake. Yeah, and that
and that's the point that and that's one of the things that this former judge
said. He said, you know, juvenile courts some a lot of times
these things are handled with the idea that if these guys are you know,
have the uh, if you can count on the fact that they're going to
not be repetitive or that this is kind of a one a one off,
that they'll cut him some slack second chance. So hey, Jim, we
gotta go. We got top of the hour, gotta get to our break.
Thanks for calling. Thank you. All right, let's go and take
our break right at the top of the hour. Breaking news, some other
stuff happening around here, so we'll talk about that. But we'd love to
get more of your calls on this issue. Five to zero four one six
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