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Welcome into Clips and Dip, episode
thirty two of season two. I'm at

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a Maslim. We got Chuck Mackler
and we'll updyke here in a very good

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show for you guys. Coming up
later, Clippers on a big three game

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road trips, some tough ones in
Indiana, Dallas. Okay, see,

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we'll preview those games. We'll also
take your questions. We put it out

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at Clippers Pod on Twitter, and
you guys responded to it. We wanted

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to know what you guys were thinking
about. We'll react to those. But

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thanks all the new subscribers. We
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go thumb up? No? No
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me. But it's gonna be with
you, guys. Chuck. We'll start

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with you. How you been I'm
feeling good this seven game win streak.

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Uh, We're gonna talk about it, but it really makes it feel like

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the West. Is that like last
year when we talked about the West being

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wide open? This is the Clippers
are very close to second place right now,

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which is surprising after what happened.
So I feeling good. It's the

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holiday season. I wish it was
colder in LA, but the Clippers are

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winning, so you know, can't
complain about too much. Big will big

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double last night? How you feeling
feeling good? Feeling good? Double big

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dub last night. I also want
to give a shout out to the Grizzlies.

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Ye ye, Charles and I was
Alma Monter. They're headed to a

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They're headed to a national championship.
So yeah, just wins on wins over

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here. But yeah, I'm I'm
doing great, doing great, excited,

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excited about these Clippers. Man.
I gotta tell you that I'm nearly a

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full one to eighty from where I
was a mere two weeks ago. Is

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this about the rodden ing the rod
again? Well, Hey, they haven't

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lost since they have came on the
show, and the Clippers have won seventh

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straight. They've won twelve of their
last fifteen. They win last night in

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impressive fashion. I have to say, I know the New York Knicks were

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on a back to back, but
the Clippers handled their business. Chuck,

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what has stood out to you most
during this seven game winning streak right now?

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I mean, it's just James Harden. Well, there's two main things.

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It's James Harden steadily increasing his aggression
within the offense and taking control of

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it as kind of the main driver. And then there's obviously Kawhi Leonard playing

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at you know, maybe as the
best player in the league right now.

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Probably tier, yeah, god,
tier, some would say, so,

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it's probably James Harden. I think
I put this in the show notes,

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but are we surprised that the reigning
assist leader is still able to hand out

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assists a mere one one season after? How shocked are It's just wild.

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It's just wild that the guy who
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in his career over the last fifteen
years pretty much can still do it.

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And how many people didn't know that
he could do that stuff. It's it's

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crazy. I feel like I feel
like that's just the cliched thing that went

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around right like, even when he
was in MVP contention, I feel like

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people were surprised at the at the
passes because you know a lot of times

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when he was initiating for himself,
it's a very dribble heavy, uh,

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you know, ball dominant sort of
thing. But this, this isn't anything

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new. And if you like you
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this isn't really any that. This
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it's finally clicking with the Clippers,
but it unexpected. I would say,

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is a bridge too far for me? Did you hear that, Casual?

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So this is nothing new? Will
say attacking casual? Oh there was.

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There was so many people down on
the James Harden trade, guys, and

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what we've seen in this turnaround has
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but it has been fun to watch. Like Clipper Nation, I tweeted

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last night, this is one of
the best runs in the two to three

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era. What we're seeing, this
brand of basketball, the level of dominance

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because of the competition they have faced
during this run over the last fifteen games,

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and they are beating really good teams
in impressive fashion. I don't think

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you can say enough about the impact
of James Harden and all this. Yes,

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he's been fantastic. There's one thing
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yesterday. Are we worried about the
defense at all? Or just the one

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offer yesterday? That was a lot
of points given up to a next team

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that is okay? But are we
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offense? There's a lot of possessions. I'm not knocking. I'm just asking

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the question. You scored one forty
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twenty still won by twenty two points. Always be better, You can always

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be better, all right? Will
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Come on, man? Yeah I
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took the Clippers minus forty seven and
a half. I was. I was

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in a bad spot. Now,
Adam, what have you liked other than

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other than James Harden right now?
What's stuck out for you in this seven

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game win stream? I think I
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Kawhi Leonard, Guys, this is
the best version of him since tearing the

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acl How can it not be?
Sixty three percent from the field, sixty

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percent from three, ninety percent from
the free throw line in his last nine

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games. Those nine are posts the
Reggie Jackson DeAndre Jordan victory with the Denver

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Nuggets over the Clippers. Ever since
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six shots and only scored thirty one
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thirty six points on just sixteen shots. Ever since that game against Denver,

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it looked like Kawhi Leonard just shot
himself out of a slump. And that's

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all it was all along. For
all the worry and concern over Kawhi Leonard

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and him getting off to a slow
start this season and Paul George being the

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best Clipper and can you really win
long term that way, Kawhi Leonard is

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back to being the a the number
one player on the team, the alpha,

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the guy who's the top three player
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playing better so far. In December, I was trying to look up just

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historically to put this in perspective,
what are some of the greatest runs in

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a ten game sample size in a
month in NBA history, And of course

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you get a lot of Will Chamberlain, you get Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan's

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it was great what he did back
in the day against seven other teams,

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and very impressive stuff. Man,
not mad, just facts. But I

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was looking up because Kobe has had
some insane months where he's averaged over forty

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points in the month James Harden with
the Houston Rockets, But there was one

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month with Michael Jordan in nineteen ninety
where actually wasn't a month. I was

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trying to find something that's just close
to what Kawhi Leonard's doing. And while

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he's only at a tick under thirty
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games with all this efficiency, those
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but the efficiency wasn't there at this
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was around this level before. I
think back in nineteen eighty six where he

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was close to touching sixty percent from
the floor. But all those guys,

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you know, Kawhi shooting sixty percent
from three, Jordan was hardly taking any

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back then, Kobe was taking them. Larry Bird was taking some, but

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it wasn't a lot. To be
doing this on a steady diet of mid

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rain shots in three pointers and getting
to the basket here and there. It's

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unreal, like this is something we
may never see again by someone in a

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slipper's uniform, the type of hot
streak that Kawhi Leonard has been on will

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We talked about it a little bit. I feel like my my concern for

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like maybe the legs or anything like
that kind of keeps going away. If

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you're not watching us on YouTube,
you can't see the funny names we give

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each other. How are you feeling
about that? Because he looks great physically.

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There's no slow start or anything like
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about some burnout or anything like that. We talked about some rotation crunch a

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little bit last episode, but we
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now, it seems like Tyler's kind
of pulling all the right strings and playing

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the guys when they want to,
which is when they're healthy. A mer

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Okay, we'll talk about a mere
but well, well, you know,

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we kind of we've touched on this
a little bit. And obviously, you

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know, if the minutes are constantly
as high as you know, just sub

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forty, you know, like we
talked about, that's not great. But

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I feel like as things continue to
pick up, it's like an initial investment

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where the minutes were high because it
took that much longer for everything to click

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together that hopefully things get a little
bit easier. And that's what we saw

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in the New York game. Really, like I think the starter with the

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longest minutes was Paul George at thirty
two. And you know, that is

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what I expect to see, is
especially in easier stretches of the season.

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Not sure if that'll be the case
with this upcoming sort of sort of rougher

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stretch that will be a test,
But no, I look, man,

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the stuff with the stuff with Kawhi, it generally hasn't been like, oh

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man, he's his minutes load has
been so insane. He's had to carry

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the team too much. It's been
like weird, freak fucking It's been weird

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freak shit dude, Like, I
mean, how else would you describe it?

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How else would you describe Like the
Paul George injury, Like I don't

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know. I mean Paul Dridge's shoulder
thing that was very clearly an overuse issue,

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like back in Okay when you know
he had to do a lot and

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shoulder stuff is weird because you can
like wait to do the surgery, like

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well, it's like this, It's
like the thing with the knee too,

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like you can scrape some of the
cartilage, you can do like a full

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repair, you know, if there's
a partial thing blah blah blah blah blah

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whatever. But I think that that
to me, it shouldn't be as worrisome,

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like like really, it's just about
playing the right way and hopefully getting

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into situations where like you don't have
to put your body on the line or

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be desperate, and that's what we're
seeing right now. So I think,

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yeah, I don't know that the
minutes is a big thing, but you

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know, less the better, of
course, But there are points I just

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I'm not used to seeing someone this
good in a Clipper's uniform. Like there

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were moments in that New York game. There there were moments in that New

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York game where I literally went hoo, and then remember that he was on

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our side. It's just it's so
inevitable. It's scary. It's scary to

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me. It's scary to me,
and he's on our side. It's scary

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hours for everyone. Watch it's a
unique hell. Those first quarter dunks too

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from Zoo and Kawhi was like,
what is happening? Where are we?

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God? He's playing also his best
basketball right now. There's a lot of

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guys playing some of their best basketball
the two and three era at the same

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time. You know, it was
I don't think we talked enough about the

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potential to unlock Zoo in the hardened
trade. Some people thought we talked about

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it too much, but it was
definitely right. I mean, there was

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definitely the possibility, right. But
I mean, he's just gonna be a

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walking double double, I think for
the rest of the season. And and

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I just his confidence is in like
it's just on another level from him getting

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all these other touches, and it's
it's carrying over on both ends of the

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floor. And I I mean,
I know I've been bringing it up every

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podcast. I just can't. I
didn't know that Zoo necessarily had this level.

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And I've been a huge Zoo proponent, but man, I like I

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I did not see this coming.
And hopefully he can continue this streak well.

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Justin Russo wrote about a great We
just plugged Justiner so substack like three

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times an episode now, it feels
like but it's really good and you should

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check it out. Game on pregame
with me yesterday. What a guy.

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He's great, but he wrote one
about Zubot's defensives impact, and he gets

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a sheet that he looks that Zoo
gets and like Zoo knows what he's doing

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defensively and things like that. And
now he's also getting rewarded by James Harden

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being here with getting fed in the
pick and roll and stuff. So like

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it's the perfect combination for Zoo because
he's motivated on defense and now he's also

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with the best pick and roll you
know, other than maybe lou Will,

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but they never really ran it together
unfortunately, like the best pick and roll

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guy maybe ever. You know,
this conversation and what Will just brought up

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there reminded me of people being so
was your old stat? Did it remind

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you of an old stat? No, this isn't some fifty points you know,

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Sorry to Day in the nineteen sixties
or anything like that first season.

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Sorry, no, get back to
your point. I apologize. It reminded

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me of just how much people were
against James Harden, to the point we

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weren't allowed to talk about him.
Do you remember this that long ago?

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This isn't that long ago. Stop
talking about James Harden. Stop it.

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It's stupid. I don't like his
style of play. I had a caller

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last night, this guy Sean and
Inglewood, and I've been giving him a

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hard time because he after James Harden
hit the four point play to take down

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Houston to end the losing streak.
This guy has my email address. He's

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a longtime listener on Clippers Talk and
he hits me up sporadically. He has

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an affinity for big men. If
he hears this talk about Will Chamberlain,

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he will come through the screen and
attack me. But he always I hope

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not man. I don't think he
knows how to docs. But but he

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seems like an older gentleman. But
I like him. I love him,

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even though we disagree. Often.
He wants to start Mason plumbleing next to

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beats the zoo bots. I mean, he just wants craziness out. Yeah,

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he thinks that's how you have to
win. And he has no idea

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about spacing in the modern era and
what that does for you and everything.

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But as soon as James Harden hit
that shot to beat Houston, I get

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an email from him. I still
don't want him. I still don't like

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him. That's what we've been dealing
with, and we're still dealing with it

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to some degree with the Russ stands
who maybe are standing down somewhat and backing

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off a little bit, because Russ
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fifteen minutes last night. He's all
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on I pick player of the game. He played great, fine for seven

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he did. He had a great
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he took a couple of ill advised
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They call a time and what does
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the basket and gets a couple of
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the fourth quarter. I love the
way he's playing, but I just hope

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everybody's rallying around this team at this
point. Should there be any more division

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within Clippers Nation? With the way
they're playing now? I think, you

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know, even if they go on
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all three of these on the road, I think we still know there is

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something there. There is a very
high ceiling with this team, and I

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think a pretty high floor in the
regular season. After you see a game

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where Paul George is out and James
Harden goes, okay, I'll drop twenty

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eight on like twelve shots. He
was my player of the game just by

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the way he showed up. I
had that receipt somewhere here. Let me

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go find that will. I just
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it's working. It's the right formula. The blueprint is there and two one,

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three is back up. And what
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that he can unlock the best version
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to see some of that. We're
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mean the effortlessness that he goes about
getting those shots. He's not having to

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just dribble and Iso. We are
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How crazy is that? Going into
this, everybody's, Oh, we can't

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play iso ball. We do that
enough already, and now you're gonna add

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James Harden. What's this offense gonna
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ball being played now with James.
I just can't stress enough how good he's

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been and how much he has stuck
to everything he has said in that introductory

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press conference that is true. He
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so far with that stuff, I
want to before we get to the Clippers

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questions. I like what you said
about kind of they if this next really

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tough stretch of games doesn't go well, two and one would be great.

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Obviously, it's still a bard And
remember what we're seeing now, which is

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maybe the close to or at least
you know, on the way to the

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pinnacle of what the Clippers team can
be offensively and defensively. So we've now

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seen it, which is something that
is kind of rare sometimes in the two

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and three area. You know,
we had all this potential and we'd see

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it for flashes. We've now seen
it for seven straight games, just the

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wins. I'm talking we saw it
the process start earlier too, but like

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this is where this team can go. They're still kind of going up into

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the right So it's important to remember
if things don't go as well as we

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walk into this next week. But
the last thing I wanted to talk about

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in this segment is is this the
year the West is wide open? The

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Clippers are one and a half games
out of the two seed after a ten

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and ten start. You know,
like this isn't this is yes, They've

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obviously won seven in a row,
but this might be a little bit like

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last year and everyone when we were
so upset that they you know, kind

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of messed around and didn't take care
of regular season business as much because the

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West was so wide open. This
is a there's very good teams in the

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West, but this is a brutal
conference right now, and I think that

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helps the Clippers because the other teams
are kind of, you know, eating

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each other's chances of success. Am
I wrong in thinking that I'm kind of

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leaning towards this is the year it's
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I guess in the standings Minnesota has
a fairly fairly hearty lead. I

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think they're like three and a half
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at the teams ahead, Sorry,
yeah, three Okay, what did I

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say? Three and a half?
Okay, important correction, It might be

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at him. Not a transaction in
the I'm moving on from receipt season and

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you can keep a receipt on this. Whoa, that's breaking news. It's

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time for humility season, guys.
I've been right way too often lately,

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and it's not gonna now. This
is taking an evil villain turn will so,

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I mean in terms of openness,
I mean, looking at the standings

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right now, should we screenshare who
ahead? I mean other than the Nuggets?

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Who ahead of the Clippers right now? Would you say you fear,

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like really truly fear in a seven
game series? I fear Kawhi. As

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we talked about earlier. We're in
a prison of no. I don't know

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if the Timberwolves half court defense is
going to be this good the whole year.

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I think, did you say other
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mean I don't know. I guess
maybe the Timberwolves just because the defense,

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because Rudy Gobert is playing an absurd
level of basketball right now. I don't

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know if that's going to continue through
the whole year. If it does,

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I would say the Timberwolves would be
my second, but everyone else is pretty

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close to them. And I'm still
feeling confident about the Clippers as of December

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seventeen, six or seven pm in
In terms of the question, to start

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with the jumping off point here from
Chuck, is this the year it's wide

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open? It's wide open until some
team as sends, just like it was

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last year. Now we look back
and go oh well, Denver was clearly

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the best team and they swept the
Lakers in the Western Conference Finals. But

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at the time it felt like,
Okay, the Phoenix Suns could win if

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the Clippers can somehow get past them
and get Paul George back. I believe

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they had a shot against the Denver
Nuggets, but we knew the Lakers were

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good. Memphis was good last season. It feels similar. There's no super

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team with Golden State and Kevin Durant
anymore to fear. There's a lot of

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really good teams. But I'm probably
most scared of the OKC thunder just because

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of their potential, because of the
assets they have still and if they want

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to trade in some of those chips
and bring in marketing or somebody else,

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they can outbid anyone out there.
There's nobody that can compete with them with

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all the first round picks they have. Of course, we're very aware of

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that, but SGA chat playing this
well, Lou Dort Jalen Williams. This

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team is scary because they also have
something about them where they look wise beyond

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their years. They're winning these games
down the stretch with really easy efficiency where

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they just step on your throat or
hit a big shot, and they act

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like they've been there before when they
really have it. That's what's strange to

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me. This OKAC team. I
don't know these young guys. They are

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focused, they have a mentality there, they have a culture there. Now

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you can still say they haven't beaten
anybody in a seven game series, and

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we don't know what SGA is going
to look like as a number one option

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in a seven game series when you
are scheming every game for the same dude

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and stopping him. But I do
have concerns about Okay see, just because

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they can still make a big talent
upgrade and they're already number two right now

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in the West. I bit of
an unknown quantity. I mean it cuts

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both ways. Like I I guess
I didn't include them on my scary teams

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just because you know, we haven't
seen it in the playoffs. But that

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I mean that can swing both ways. It's not that that that's not crazy

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to think at all. The Clippers
have already made the Mavericks, you know,

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a team with a superstar point guard
who kills them quote unquote every time

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despite losing the series. It would
be hard to have another team like that

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right, like this would be very
similar to those MAVs battles and whatnot.

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That would be a good that's a
that's a good pick at them. That's

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an interesting series to think. But
the Timberwolves aren't. I guess Chuck mentioned

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the Timberwolves. Other than that,
nobody's nobody's feeling it. Yeah, I

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think the Lakers are really good and
Phoenix can't get together right now with having

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Bradley Beal healthy on the floor with
the Spurs again tonight for like the second

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time or something. But they could
have a Clipper. They could definitely have

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a Clippers ask turnaround like they put
together a little streak. Yeah, their

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rosters defensively, they're not great.
I don't know how they get to an

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elite level defensively. We said it. Losing DeAndre Ayden for Nurkic is not

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an upgrade. I understand that DeAndre
Aiden wasn't gonna play ball there, so

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to speak, but Nurkics can get
played off the floor pretty easily. He

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typically didn't close games for the Portland
trail Blazers. I don't know what they're

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gonna do there. So none of
these teams are fully formed. None of

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these teams are finalized roster wise,
including the Clippers, which we're going to

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talk about. Yeah, but just
looking at it right now, the one

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team that I know could go out
there and make a huge move and it

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doesn't even take a lot of sacrifice
from them to do so because they have

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this wealth, this treasure, this
war chest of picks. They can go

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out there. If marketing's next to
chet in the front court, guys,

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that is unbelievable. It's a good
it's a really good four for the for

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the thundered app as a tough team
to stop, a really tough team stop.

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Would Laurie Markenen be? Would he
fall victim to Oklahoma City nightlife?

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Yeah, that's what That's what happened
to Jeff Green, Right, That's how

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that's why he had to get out
of there. Yeah, you had to

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go. There's a lot to do. You can do a lot of stuff

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before nine pm. Derek Fisher struggled
there too because of it. Just wild

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Derek coming up practically the same as
Houston that life right, Yeah, perto

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Mayor as really what's there student Houston
in Oklahoma? I believe was the question

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coming up. We're gonna answering some
fantastic Clippers questions. We can only gush

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about how good the Clippers have been
over these last seven games so much.

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One of these questions is from one
of our our hosts, which is going

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to be a very fun time.
The guy who who recently said he's not

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doing receipts earlier today sent the question
that we're gonna get to anyway. The

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ads have been loud for some people. We've had a couple people on Twitter.

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I don't know if you guys have
noticed this, but they've been tweeting

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at me. They said I used
to. One of them said, I

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used to roll my eyes when you
would make the ad disclaimer until this week

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when I got blasted by an ad, I said, hey, it's a

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joke. That's actual advice fifteen percent
of the time, and they should heat

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it. So if that's been happening, you go ahead and turn it down.

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We got ads and the questions coming
up in three two. What all

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right, welcome back into Clips and
Dip. We just gushed about the Clippers

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and there and their seven game win
streak turning things around. But we wanted

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to take your questions. You can
you can leave those even if we don't

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ask for them over Oh yeah,
ad clippers pod. But let's kick it

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off with Adam. For some reason, is in this mail bag Adam wanted

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you want to go ahead and ask
your question? You want to answer it

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too? Or I mean I was
joking. I didn't think I was actually

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going to be included here. I
did ask who's catching re seats on Kawhi

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with Is it Kendrick Perkins, who's
been the most outside It's Brian Windhorse that

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clip of what he talked about he
doesn't look healthy and all that stuff from

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last year. Yeah, it's Brian
win Horse. Or he has been trying

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to own it recently, he's trying
to reverse that. He said something to

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the effect of the scariest development right
now in the NBA is how good Kawhi

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Leonard has looked over the past couple
of weeks. So he's trying to get

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back in our good graces. All
right, all right, he can come

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on the show. He can he
can come on the show. Then that's

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fine. I do have my Kawhi
Leonard black Panther bobblehead with Oh, just

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because he's been that amazing, I
got to keep him close at all times.

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Well, and also you're so terrified
of how good he is. We

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got that Dunky had with the left
hand in the first quarter that Will was

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talking about earlier. He's also us
the babblehead giveaway on the twenty third,

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right, it's like a Christmas Yeah, Santa, Hell yeah, that's pretty

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sick. He all right, We're
gonna get you a real question next,

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unless we have anything else to add
to Adam's question. Now, like I

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said, no more receipts, guys, humility season is upon us humility.

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I love that it's humility season because
he's been right so much. Well,

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Guys, I know the pendulum is
gonna swing back the other way at some

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point, and I want to get
out ahead of this and make sure I'm

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not still talking so much crap.
Next question is from maybe A eighty.

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We just talked about some trades.
In the last one. He said,

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do you think the Clippers need to
trade for some size of power forward to

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match up better against some of the
taller teams like the Nuggets and Wolves.

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Where are we at on this?
I think a lot of this has to

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do with the fact that Plubly's hurt. If Plubly's not hurt. We have

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two actual seven foot centers, so
I think the size question really goes away

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at that point because we can have
one of those guys on the floor,

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probably have any I mean, we
haven't even gotten unleash a tight front court.

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Yeah wow, we are waiting for
that. But I don't know if

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the trade is out there, because
the Clippers like their most tradeable pieces kind

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like they're not trading norm because he's
playing way too good to trade, like

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the only guys they would trade PJ. Tucker wants to leave for more time.

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He's a four, right like a
mere coffee is playing very well.

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But someone who people throw into these
trade ideas, like the people they would

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trade are fours, I guess except
for like one or two guards. So

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I just don't know if the trade
is out there, Like there's not a

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margin trade that I don't think the
Clippers can make to satisfy this one.

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Not to say that it's a real
issue, I don't, am I rolling.

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What do you think that asking prices
for bow on right now? Fuck

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the Pistons man, God damn shout
out to anyone who's a Pistons fan.

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I hope you're doing okay, but
he's hurt so much though, so it's

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an upside trade. No, I, I that's how good this seven game

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00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,480
win streak has been, right that
it's it's it's hard. It's hard to

406
00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:15,160
conceptualize even like shuffling around pieces right
now, because it feels like they've got

407
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:21,039
a really good thing going. And
I do think, I do think teams

408
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:25,640
can you know, overadjust, they
can overdo it. And you know,

409
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,880
the is this the year that we
finally don't like, don't see a big

410
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:37,039
move from the Clippers. Maybe the
move was already made. They got James

411
00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:41,799
Harden. Mason Plumbley is coming back, and that's somebody when we talked about

412
00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:48,240
backup second units and how those should
look, so they cannot bleed minutes nearly

413
00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:53,440
as much as they have at times
early on this season. Mason Plumbley cures

414
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,400
a lot of what ails them there. Like you talk about not wanting to

415
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:03,440
go small, If Plumbley's healthy and
Zoobots is there, they never really have

416
00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:07,160
to go small. They can always
have a true seven footer out there on

417
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,119
the floor. So the question is
to me whether or not Daniel Tyes can

418
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,119
play the four. If he can
play the four effectively, which means he

419
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,079
probably is gonna have to knock down
more shots and he has been. Okay,

420
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:22,000
I don't know what the numbers are
from three, Chuck, they've been

421
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,440
so that's the thing. Is like
Daniel Tyson's numbers. Sorry, you're gonna

422
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,359
hear some typing number or some typing
sounds. His stats from three have been

423
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:36,559
absurd. How is taking? Karl's
a famous doubter of Tyson's shooting. I

424
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:41,640
am a famous douter of tyson shooting
based on years and years of statistical evidence.

425
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:47,039
He is taking one point one per
game, and he's hitting them out

426
00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:52,680
of forty rate, So he's not
This isn't like because they have left him

427
00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:57,319
wide open, and hey, it's
one point one more than fucking PJ.

428
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,279
Tucker's taking, so it would be
better than PJ Tucker playing before right,

429
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,799
Like, I will say that he
had what one season where he shot something

430
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:10,400
around thirty eight percent from the outside
in his career, but he's a thirty

431
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,359
two percent career three point shooter,
thirty two point seven percent. He shot

432
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,599
thirty seven and a half percent in
twenty three. That was this year.

433
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,720
He can't give me the thirty eight
will What is up with that I mean,

434
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,759
Oh wait, no, sorry,
thirty eight point eight percent twenty eighteen,

435
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:29,359
twenty nineteen on how many attempts per
game? Will what do you how

436
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:36,720
many attempts point five Adam, oh
point five? Firm one a firm one

437
00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:41,039
point zero. So again, he's
not an outside thread. He doesn't.

438
00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:45,279
He can. It's just not I
think that's a thread. It's it's a

439
00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:49,000
big foundational change. I think for
his game to be a catch and shooter,

440
00:31:49,119 --> 00:31:52,720
like, he's not a ketchen shooter. You want to nickname him empty

441
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,160
thread? How dare you chuck?
That's actually, heyst ties, baby's much

442
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,000
better. No, okay, I
won't. I wont name him empty threat.

443
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,000
If he starts not doing effort,
he'll be empty threat. But no,

444
00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:06,799
he's just not a shooting threat.
So I think I agree with what

445
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:09,559
you're saying with the like him of
the four, but I think he'd have

446
00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:13,640
to take a like they're just gonna
keep sagging off them. The other teams

447
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,240
are just gonna dare him to shoot. Let me ask you guys this because

448
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:20,599
you brought up something earlier that I
think is key, and it's a shift

449
00:32:20,599 --> 00:32:23,160
of mentality from Clipper Nation because coming
into the season, a lot of people

450
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:28,200
were thinking, Oh, Norman Powell
can still be that trade ship for later

451
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,039
on in the season. Possibly.
Yeah about that, Norman Pal's been far

452
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:37,440
too valuable. The Powell Rangers have
been too strong. Hell yeah, I

453
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,680
think I just put up the number
earlier. The most recent numbers when it

454
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,880
comes to the Powell Rangers on the
screen share it with Norm No next to

455
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:50,640
James Kawhi PG ZOO. In forty
eight minutes, they're plus thirty five.

456
00:32:50,839 --> 00:32:53,559
In ten games, they're shooting fifty
percent from the floor and forty and a

457
00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:57,960
half percent from the outside. They
got an offensive rating of one twenty two

458
00:32:58,079 --> 00:33:01,599
and a defensive rating of ninety seven
and net rating of plus twenty five point

459
00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:06,839
two. It's only forty eight minutes. I kind of think part of the

460
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,160
reason is coach Lew has seen enough, he likes it enough, and he

461
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:15,000
doesn't want to give too much game
tape out there on what could be their

462
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:19,759
death lineup eventually with this team.
I like that idea because it's too effective

463
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:22,720
not to have played more than just
forty eight minutes. But we've been we've

464
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:27,759
fell under this spell before. Though
we have seen lineups that have been good

465
00:33:27,799 --> 00:33:30,799
for a small amount of time and
then never saw them again at some point.

466
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,880
But I think you are right in
this particular instance, with how everyone

467
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,200
is playing and the roster crunch a
little bit, it's like an eight and

468
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,640
a half been rotation. I do
think you're right. My question, though,

469
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:45,359
then shifts to this, if norm
isn't the trade chip, does Mason

470
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,759
Plumbly become the trade chip? I
think his value I think because of the

471
00:33:49,839 --> 00:33:54,119
injury. Yeah, trade for what? Yeah? A flour He's yeah for

472
00:33:54,240 --> 00:34:00,880
that other wing. If you think
they are down a wing and it's getting

473
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,119
close to February and the trade deadline, and if eatsa Zubots is mister reliable

474
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,880
and you have Daniel Tye and he's
still playing this good or even better,

475
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:15,400
how do you get minutes for he
and Mason Plumbley Tys was bawling against Isaiah

476
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,960
Hartenstein last night. That was a
really fun battle. And they are similar

477
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,400
in some ways. You brought it
up Chuck on Twitter. Well, same

478
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:27,440
tattoo artists. They have to I
I the Clippers can't get smaller. They

479
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:30,760
they can't. I just I don't
think the Clippers could trade out. They're

480
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,320
already small When Zoo's on on the
floor. I think they have if Mason

481
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,159
is and should, based on these
weird small updates of God, should be

482
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:42,719
able to come back. I don't
think they can get smaller. I want

483
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,400
them to keep Mason. Plumbley has
been great. Get trade Tucker for a

484
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:51,880
fax machine and a cup of coffee
or something like. But yeah, it's

485
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,880
not as if they might be able
to find another big that you can throw

486
00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,760
out there for ten minutes a game
if you need to, maybe Dwayne Deadman

487
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:07,480
who knows, but somebody else on
a minimum and you still have a piece

488
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:14,079
to move, possibly for an upgrade
at the four spot, just to have

489
00:35:14,159 --> 00:35:17,840
that option of playing a little bit
bigger with the starting unit, because right

490
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,719
now it's still Kawhi, Leonard Gard
and Julius Randall last night. That's a

491
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,320
little witnessing. Sure, So who
do you want? I don't know who

492
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,440
that guy is at this point at
the four. I'm just saying, there's

493
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,440
this outcry of support they still have
to I mean, the initial question was

494
00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:37,440
they still need an upgrade at the
four, So how do they get that

495
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:39,480
done? Who are their trade pieces? If Norm isn't one of them.

496
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,559
I'm just trying to rationalize this and
think through it. It might turn out

497
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:45,360
to be Mason Plumbley. But that's
where my head's act because I'm like,

498
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,679
if it's Mason Plumbley, then I
don't think they should do the trade because

499
00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:54,039
it's like ends on who is.
If Mason Plumbley is playing fifteen minutes a

500
00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:58,920
night at most when he comes back
because of Daniel Tice, right, No,

501
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,480
I mean I don't know. Oh, there's gonna be a minutes crunch.

502
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,400
There is there, Yeah, there
definitely is a minutes crunch. So

503
00:36:05,519 --> 00:36:09,400
Anthony Ludy asked us when he comes
back, does Mason Public drop off of

504
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:14,159
the rotation? With Tys playing so
well? Kind of what happened with Bones?

505
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,719
Like that's a good question too.
How much time do we work back

506
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,840
in Mason Pumbly If the team is
rolling? You know what I mean with

507
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,719
this? With this, like,
obviously I don't think they're gonna win every

508
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,840
game until Mason Public comes back.
That would be awesome. I would take

509
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:35,119
that. But if this team is
like on some crazy heater and the net

510
00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:37,920
rating is out of control kind of
no matter who's on the court, how

511
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,960
do you work Publy back in this
isn't a giant problem. But this is

512
00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:45,159
a great question from Loudy, like, will where are we at? How

513
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:51,480
do we work Mason Pubbly back into
this lineup? Well, I mean it'll

514
00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:53,599
probably take him a while to get
up to speed anyways, So you have

515
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:59,000
that time, right, And I
think you know it has been established enough

516
00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:02,000
in the locker room that that nothing
is really earned in terms of where you

517
00:37:02,119 --> 00:37:07,679
are in this rotation. I mean
even Kobe Brown, which I guess was

518
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:12,639
never a guarantee, but pretty quickly
found his way out of the rotation.

519
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,960
So I don't think that it's going
to be I don't think that that's like

520
00:37:16,159 --> 00:37:21,400
that big of a concern for me, just because of the way that he

521
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:25,840
has fit with the Clippers thus far. But yeah, and you just have

522
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,840
the opportunity to work him in in
some minutes. I guess the only thing

523
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:36,599
that's troubling is how late is he
back in the season, right, Because

524
00:37:36,639 --> 00:37:43,280
then I mean then you know with
how long some of these sample sizes can

525
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,199
take with Tyler, Which is not
a complaint, just a fact. I

526
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:52,800
just that's going to be very,
very difficult. I was just looking at

527
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,880
the minutes Daniel ties is at sixteen
per game as a Clipper. Mason Plumby

528
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,800
was at seventeen this season at nineteen
team last season as a Clipper. So

529
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,679
if you just split those up and
go, okay, when are you gets

530
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,599
eight the other gets seven a night, and we see who's hot with them,

531
00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:14,440
I'm with it. I love that
idea. That seems like, yeah,

532
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,079
a platoon, let's do it.
I don't know if either of them

533
00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:21,719
are gonna be happy doing that,
but how could But if the team's winning

534
00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:24,960
and they're playing well, I don't
know that it works. I think I'll

535
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,400
be happy with it. I don't
know that it works. I just like

536
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:32,320
it. So you're gonna, like, how are you going to have a

537
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,920
rhythm if you're not sure, like
how many minutes you're gonna like a ballpark

538
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,079
of how many minutes you're going to
be playing on a night, and like

539
00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:42,679
you're gonna find rhythm with eight minutes
in a forty eight minute game. I

540
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,639
just I just don't see it.
I just don't see it. That's a

541
00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:47,760
good call. It's an issue we've
seen before with this Clippers roster in the

542
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:54,719
past couple of years. Did they
trade Daniel Tice, have they rebuilt his

543
00:38:54,920 --> 00:39:00,360
value enough to be able to trade
him at the deadline and get some thing.

544
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,840
Do you see that a wing position? Can they trade ties position?

545
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:10,079
That's a good question too. Somebody
could be It could be matchup dependent on

546
00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:14,880
who they're playing that night. If
they're playing a bigger team, then they

547
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,440
go with Mason Plumbley. What if
Mason Plumby has because he's pretty good in

548
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,320
the pick and roll? What if
what if he has great chemistry with James

549
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,840
Harden. We haven't seen those two
together yet, that's true. Someone also

550
00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:28,079
asked, what is a mir geting
minutes at the backup? For mean?

551
00:39:28,119 --> 00:39:31,679
For Plumbley's return. People were worried
about public on this mailbag edition, which

552
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:37,000
is cool but surprising. Amir took
Kobe Brown's minutes. Yeah, a mere

553
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:39,400
took Kobe Brown's minutes, which makes
it Yeah, I don't really see the

554
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:44,199
correlation, and I think those two
are interchangeable for Tyler if one of them

555
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:47,320
has the hot hand, you know, I'm hoping it's a lot more Amir.

556
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:52,199
I like Kobe Brown, but he's
he's just young. Emir has earned

557
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:55,199
it. He's been here for how
long he's twenty six now? If not

558
00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,679
now, when when are you going
to use him? You have enough confidence

559
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:07,000
to start him in for Paul George
in a game, and he plays great

560
00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:10,880
against Golden State and they probably don't
win without him. And then last night

561
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,920
he gets fifteen minutes, Kobe Brown
doesn't play till the very end during garbage

562
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,800
time. It looks like in the
Brown minutes, Kobe rout he had two

563
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,320
threes. Let's just let's here we
go. Let's get the stats a little

564
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,280
right now. You're not wrong a
mere coffees. I'm a Mere Coffee fan

565
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,000
too. Uh case. The kid
asked if the Clippers start blowing teams out

566
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,320
in the first two quarters, which
in the modern NBA, I don't know

567
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,679
if a game is over after the
first two quarters. No matter what the

568
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,960
score is, it's not what younger
players would you like to see play the

569
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:47,320
most minutes? Bones Boston musa Brown
Bones or a mirror bom Bones both.

570
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,159
I want him to come back.
He's questionable. I think for this upcoming

571
00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:53,199
game he's got the hip something.
I think it's his hip or something.

572
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,639
But I want both to be I
want to be healthy, Like I don't

573
00:40:57,639 --> 00:40:59,719
know what's going on, but it
seems like he's picked up some knocks,

574
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,679
which I just feel bad about.
That sucks, but it really don't want

575
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,320
him to end up being the trade
piece. You know. His value is

576
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:12,320
weird though, because it's like,
yeah, I don't know. I think

577
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,719
team's gotten enough tape on him though, to know the potential he would be

578
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,880
sought after. I think I think
he might be right. I think there's

579
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,199
a thread maybe words out well,
skeleton key is out, the key has

580
00:41:25,199 --> 00:41:29,199
been copied. I think once we
get closer, because what was the January

581
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:32,239
fifteenth, a lot of a lot
of contracts can start being traded. I

582
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,000
think if you're a listener who listens
to a lot of these episodes, I

583
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:40,639
would maybe start putting your ear to
the ground for Bones Highland Trade chatow around

584
00:41:40,639 --> 00:41:45,159
mid January, because I like,
I don't like the idea of trading bones,

585
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:46,360
but Adam, I like the idea
you had of him maybe being the

586
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:52,480
trade piece. Can I just tell
you how much I dislike talking about trades

587
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:57,800
right now when the Clippers have won
so great. Jesse Beer hit me up

588
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,719
on Twitter like a week ago,
what do you think about bringing in Jeremy

589
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,440
Grant? And it's like, Dude, I'm worried about what they got going

590
00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:08,079
right now, and they can't get
him till January, if that's even possible,

591
00:42:08,119 --> 00:42:12,039
and he's got a huge contract.
Can we just can we just talk

592
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:15,960
about the team and what they're trying
to do at the moment. The grass

593
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,199
is always greener, Will and I
always used to talk about on Lockdown Clippers

594
00:42:19,199 --> 00:42:22,320
that with Clippers fans because of how
the injuries work right now, it always

595
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,400
feels like the grass is always greener. Someone after a Mirror's performance tweeted at

596
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,559
our show account at Clippers pot on
Twitter, should the Clippers just start a

597
00:42:30,559 --> 00:42:35,199
mirror instead of Terrence Man? And
It's like, no, no, they

598
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,519
should not do that things. I
had a last night about that. I

599
00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:42,239
had a color last night about that. I'm like, no, Terrence Man

600
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,760
is your point of attack defender.
The reason why Kawhi Leonard looks so good

601
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,480
in the fourth corner defensively is because
in the first quarter it's all Terrence Man

602
00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:52,159
for the most part guarding their best
perimeter player. Yeah, that is invaluable.

603
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:58,000
That's everything. Can we just bask
in the song and the sun rays

604
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000
of this Clippers stretch of plays?
Take a beat? All right? Last

605
00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:07,440
question before we get to the very
difficult upcoming week for the Clippers. Optimus

606
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:12,519
Prime Rib one of our favorite names
on Twitter. Great. I want two,

607
00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:15,280
one, three at the end to
it? Though, what would have

608
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:21,119
to be the absolute floor at the
end of the season for this to happen?

609
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,800
Will? We'll go to you.
It's an inevitability. We talked about

610
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:30,920
this even when things were going poorly. There's just unless I don't know,

611
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:35,119
unless they got like a wild hair
at the trade deadline this year or in

612
00:43:35,199 --> 00:43:37,960
the off season and they were like, like Kawhi and Paul George are back

613
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,320
to peak value, let's see what
we can get, which I again,

614
00:43:40,639 --> 00:43:45,519
I don't see that, I mean
right, but I just think that like

615
00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:49,760
the actual outcome of this season is
going to be sort of irrelevant. I

616
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,360
think that those two players are going
to be there to open into it dome.

617
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:57,599
That is definitely the plan. Now
Hardened becomes a third priority in that

618
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,320
and so yeah, we'll see.
But like, you gotta have the names,

619
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,960
man, you gotta have the names, and the Clippers, I just

620
00:44:05,119 --> 00:44:07,440
how else are you getting them?
What? Who else are you getting?

621
00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:12,119
Right? Because you don't even have
assets to make something happen. It's like

622
00:44:12,159 --> 00:44:14,719
you don't even have assets to make
something happen, right, it have to

623
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,880
be an out you have to outright
sign somebody. And I just don't what

624
00:44:20,119 --> 00:44:24,400
bigger free agent are you getting this
year to California guys. Yeah, yeah,

625
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,679
yeah, So I don't think the
results, I mean, the results

626
00:44:28,679 --> 00:44:30,400
matter to us. Obviously the results
matter, but it doesn't. It's it's

627
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:35,719
irrelevant to the opening of into It
don't unless one of them dies or has

628
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,119
a bad sex scandal or something.
Damn all right, some off court stuff,

629
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:44,800
some unreleased audio or something. Adam, you look confused. We're gonna

630
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,760
go ahead and jump off that point. I blocked out for a second.

631
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,599
There's this disconnect between people's understanding of
the salary cap and thinking, well,

632
00:44:53,639 --> 00:44:58,960
if we lose Kawhi and his forty
five million dollars, then we can just

633
00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:01,360
spend that. No, oh,
you could go over the cap to resign

634
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,519
your own Guys, you had his
bird rights. It's not the same thing.

635
00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:10,800
And it's hard to find these big
name free agents anymore. It seems

636
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:16,159
to always be happening through trades now, especially with the new CBA. Okay,

637
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:20,440
so there's not going to be anyone
out there of the level of players

638
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,280
that the Clippers already have in house
that they could realistically bring in if you

639
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:30,000
want to compete, these are the
guys you're rolling with. That's the that's

640
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,039
the option if you want to compete
right now. Well, that's the thing,

641
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:36,880
right, Like the best players in
the league are locked up. They

642
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,039
stay locked up, even if they
are going to demand a trade one year

643
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:45,440
into a six year deal. It's
just what happens. It's just what happens.

644
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,679
Like you are locked up, So
trade is really the only way to

645
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,800
acquire a player of that caliber.
Yeah, I mean, I think you're

646
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,679
right. I think it's again,
things are going so well right now that

647
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:04,480
there isn't a like they're gonna be
there. Two of the four California guys

648
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,880
will be there, and my best
guess is it's the two best ones.

649
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,199
Yeah, George, why do we
have to jump to? So who should

650
00:46:10,199 --> 00:46:15,559
we make trays for? So you
don't get it, It could always be

651
00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:19,079
better. There's a freaking septic tank
underneath the grass. With the way that

652
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:22,039
people are talking about it, right, if you haven't been to a store

653
00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:24,159
and said, wow, I like
that item, but what if it's one

654
00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:28,519
that I know, if it's even
better it's just amazing to me. Like

655
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,880
a couple of weeks ago, you're
just worried about winning a game. Now

656
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:36,920
they win seventh straight, twelve of
fifteen, and the talk is, but

657
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,400
what if we do this, Like, what if we can approve it this

658
00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:44,800
way? Yeah, let's let's reshuffle
the deck. No, we actually are

659
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,320
getting some consistency and continuity built up
with this team right now for one of

660
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,639
the first times ever in the two
and three era. Wh I just played

661
00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:57,159
twenty five games straight. Paul George
played twenty four twenty five, James Harden

662
00:46:57,199 --> 00:47:00,599
hasn't missed a game yet. Guys, enjoy this, stay stay here,

663
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:06,119
stay in the present. Adam Oslin's
saying, enjoy this to all of the

664
00:47:06,159 --> 00:47:08,960
Clippers fans. Coming up, we're
gonna be talking a week that might be

665
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:13,239
kind of difficult to enjoy. We
hope the process is very good. The

666
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,840
Clippers take on the Pacers, MAVs, and Thunder. I think it might

667
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:20,400
be a three and four. We're
gonna be talking about that after this next

668
00:47:20,519 --> 00:47:22,119
ad break. The ads have allowed
for some people, So if that's been

669
00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:24,760
the case for you, go ahead
and turn down. We got ads coming

670
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:32,079
up in three two one welcome back
in clips and dip. I'm Adam Oslin.

671
00:47:32,159 --> 00:47:37,159
We did not have a double dip
last night. Unfortunately. My fault

672
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:45,320
humility season, my fault Clippers on
a top three game roads trips starting in

673
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:50,039
Indiana and they were in the n
season championship game recently. And that's very

674
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:52,360
meaningful because oh wait, the Lakers
have lost two or three I think since

675
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:57,119
then. No, it still means
something for a team like that. That's

676
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,039
actually exactly what the nd season Tournament
was for because a lot of people got

677
00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:07,320
familiar with Tyrese Halliburton outside of you
know, the guys on TNT and Shack

678
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,519
calling him Trey. I was telling
everybody in the break room, Trey is

679
00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:16,679
the real deal. No, sorry, my name is Tyrese. Yeah.

680
00:48:16,679 --> 00:48:20,719
Oh oh, that happened. That
happened after they took down the Bucks to

681
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,400
get to the championship game. Shack
was interviewing him, interviewing Tyrese. He's

682
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:29,440
right in front of him and he
called him Trey and Ernie Johnson had to

683
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:34,239
correct him. But the Inana Pacers
played a break neck pace. It's appropriately

684
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,719
so because they are the Pacers.
They have the best offense in the league.

685
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,800
They have a historically great offense.
Currently, they're also tied though they're

686
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:45,079
offensive rating right now with the Philadelphia
seventy six ers, which is pretty wild.

687
00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:51,559
I didn't know Philly was buzz sewing
through teams like that offensively, but

688
00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:55,400
I know Joel Embiid has just been
crazy good recently. Is Halliburton playing though?

689
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,280
Is the question? He had a
neat contusion? Yeah, when you

690
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,239
missed their last game. Have you
seen an update on that check? I

691
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:06,039
have not seen an update on that. But if I were doing ads for

692
00:49:06,119 --> 00:49:09,559
the meta headset though, which man, I'm glad that he's getting the check.

693
00:49:09,679 --> 00:49:12,840
You know, I was thinking about
this, like Tyree where else?

694
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,639
Tyrese deserves the checks. I just
I think his agent needs to get needs

695
00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:20,719
to get him better deals than that, because that is it's already over.

696
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,000
They already said like they're not developing
the metaverse. Web three point oho is

697
00:49:24,039 --> 00:49:29,199
not happening. Are we a web
three point oh pod? I'm into that.

698
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:34,320
If I were the Pacers, I
would hold I would hold Trey out

699
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,119
of this game. I would hold
Trey out of this Game's I would hold

700
00:49:38,159 --> 00:49:43,559
tyres out of this game. It's
a Western Conference opponent, your team is

701
00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:49,880
very good. I don't know,
yeah, I don't know. Hold about

702
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:55,519
well what they're twenty eighth defensively,
but they showed flashes during the n season

703
00:49:55,519 --> 00:49:59,280
tournament where all of a sudden they
were playing better on the defensive end,

704
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,440
and they were given this great effort, and that's part of the reason they

705
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:06,239
got to the championship game. They're
just scary to me because if they get

706
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,119
on top of you in the first
quarter, if you start slow, it

707
00:50:08,199 --> 00:50:13,440
could be over. I know we
just said no game is over in two

708
00:50:13,519 --> 00:50:21,199
quarters in this NBA, but if
you're takings except for our team, well,

709
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,880
hey, the Clippers just put up
seventy seven points of what one four

710
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:31,199
recently and the offense is obviously thriving. But I do not want to see

711
00:50:31,199 --> 00:50:36,280
them get down double digits in the
first quarter in Indiana to start off this

712
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,760
road trip, because they are just
relentless and do not let up. Yeah,

713
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,800
I think you're right, that would
not. So we want We need

714
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,599
the starters to be what they've been, which is very good. And like

715
00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:50,360
you mentioned the last seg but we
need Terrence Man's point of attack defense even

716
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,199
if Tyree's isn't playing. We need
someone there to make it a little bit

717
00:50:54,199 --> 00:51:00,719
harder, because then Zubat's job gets
a lot more important if type recism there,

718
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,840
because Miles Turner is probably gonna want
some kind of lock back for what

719
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,119
Zoo did to him inside Crypto was
that last year where you had to send

720
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:10,960
the ball to the Hall of Fame
because he had thirty and thirty or thirty

721
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,800
one and twenty nine or something like
that. Like, there's gonna be some

722
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,199
extra motivation I think for Miles Turner
too, especially if Halliburn's out. So

723
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:22,159
I hope the Clippers defense can start
off strong. Like you said, I'm

724
00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:27,039
not too worried about the offense based
on what Indiana does on that side of

725
00:51:27,039 --> 00:51:30,039
the ball. You know what's else? What else is worth pointing out regarding

726
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:36,320
the Clippers and first quarters, And
I've been guilty of this too humility season,

727
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,400
but they've been much better in first
quarters so far this season. And

728
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:45,039
there was a lot of narrative,
big picture talk about well, you have

729
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:49,679
to start Russ because he plays faster
and he plays with more energy and more

730
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,119
pace, and if you don't,
they're gonna get off to slow lethargic starts

731
00:51:52,159 --> 00:51:58,320
with James Harden and while they've recently
been bringing in Russes into first quarters.

732
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,719
It seems like the ultimate oversimplification,
right, like, well, Russ look,

733
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:07,320
he runs really fast up and down, and that means the Clippers will

734
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,679
get off too faster starts because of
that that that's not necessarily how it works.

735
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:15,960
But I looked at some of their
first quarter numbers and their top ten

736
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:20,000
in net rating. They shoot a
really high percentage from the floor in first

737
00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:23,159
quarters. They have been starting off
very well overall. We have all this

738
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:28,280
PTSD from past seasons and how many
times they've gotten off to slow starts,

739
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,800
to the point where even Kawhi Leonard
said it in a postgame interview recently,

740
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,280
like, I know, we get
off to a lot of slow starts,

741
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,599
and somebody could have been like Juster, so hey, actually check out these

742
00:52:37,639 --> 00:52:40,280
numbers right here. You guys are
doing much better. It is historical historically,

743
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,960
but this season, different team.
They have James Harden now and they've

744
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,920
been better in this area. I
just want to point it out because it's

745
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:51,639
starting to become a false narrative where
we always think, oh, the Clippers

746
00:52:51,639 --> 00:52:55,280
get off notoriously bad starts, but
they've been buched much better recently. I

747
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,760
guess good teams. What's one big
thing will that you want to see the

748
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:06,719
clip doing this Pacers game win?
God damn it. Although although if they

749
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,320
were to drop one out of these
ig I'm fine, I'm weirdly if it's

750
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:15,119
a fully healthy Pacers team, I'd
be. I would be if they have

751
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:16,400
to lose one of the three,
right, just because it's so many games

752
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,199
so close together, I would be
fine if this was the game, the

753
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,480
process is good, and you know
they get run at, you know,

754
00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:25,559
they get beat and in a close
game or something like that with you know

755
00:53:25,599 --> 00:53:30,119
that five point home advantage bump or
whatever or something like that. I think

756
00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:32,760
you're right. I think I'm okay
with with it. I think the Pacers

757
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,079
under one twenty would be nice.
How about that? That's what I want

758
00:53:36,119 --> 00:53:37,519
to see, Okay. I like
that. That's a good process from the

759
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:42,039
defense. That maybe something to think
about as you move forward at top five

760
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:45,480
defense. Last fifteen games with the
new starting lineup, and I know Paul

761
00:53:45,519 --> 00:53:49,079
George missed one of them, but
they have been tremendous on that end.

762
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,960
I just want to see him lose
with style. No, I don't want

763
00:53:53,000 --> 00:54:00,079
to see that's not what the loss. No start fast be in the ballgame,

764
00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:06,920
because offensively, if they start fast, I'm less worried about their defense.

765
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,480
I feel like it fuels their defense
and their energy and motivation on that

766
00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:16,960
end. It's also just about Kawhi
Leonard with how hard he is playing in

767
00:54:17,079 --> 00:54:22,840
how vocal he's being on the court. It looks like Carlo Amenez and I

768
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,920
were talking about this last night.
It's not just about them staying locked in

769
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:34,079
for games. They're not losing focus
between possessions right now. That's how glued

770
00:54:34,159 --> 00:54:37,360
in they are this team. That's
what's popping and standing out to Clippers fans

771
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:42,199
and why this fuels like Wow,
this is one of the better stretches in

772
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,239
the two to three era. They
look very serious every single possession. They

773
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:51,360
are going really hard out there,
and you couldn't say that especially last season

774
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,559
their defense was basically bottom ten,
even though their offense got much better and

775
00:54:54,639 --> 00:54:59,559
Kawhi's on this historic run as he
is again, last year, they weren't

776
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:02,159
winning as any games as they should
have been because defensively they weren't good enough.

777
00:55:02,639 --> 00:55:06,880
Now it's starting with their defense,
and it's not just a message or

778
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,079
a talking point or something during training
camp that falls on deaf ears. Once

779
00:55:10,119 --> 00:55:15,239
the regular season starts, they're there. They are present in every game defensively

780
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:21,119
and getting off to that defensive mindset
or defensive intensity in first quarters. That

781
00:55:21,199 --> 00:55:24,480
coach Lou said a million times last
season, and it didn't get across to

782
00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:29,559
him. Now it is all right, most important part. Player of the

783
00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:32,440
game picks, Adam who is your
player of the game pick for a Clippers

784
00:55:32,519 --> 00:55:37,760
versus Pacers, It's got to be
a Clippers player. I'm gonna go with

785
00:55:37,159 --> 00:55:44,360
Daniel Tice on a revenge mission against
a team that wasn't playing him. He's

786
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,239
got a chip on his shoulder.
I was thinking he or Paul George,

787
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,599
but I'll go with Daniel Tice in
this one. A little vanilla tye going

788
00:55:50,679 --> 00:55:54,239
up against the Indiana Pacers who disrespected
him. And I can't say enough about

789
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,880
how good he's been as a Clipper
so far, the way he plays,

790
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,960
and what a god send he's been. It's almost like Hardenstein light having Daniel

791
00:56:02,039 --> 00:56:07,079
Tice. It may not even be
that light if you look at the performance

792
00:56:07,079 --> 00:56:10,239
between those two yesterday. He's doing
some of the stuff that Isaiah Hartenstein did

793
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,400
for this team. A couple of
years ago. He is. He's a

794
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,000
better rebounder, not as flashy of
a passer, but he is a probably

795
00:56:17,039 --> 00:56:22,239
better at things that help about you
win basketball games. Well, player of

796
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:30,199
the game pick for Clippers versus Pacers. I gonna go. I'm gonna go

797
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,840
Paul George like, but not like
a good game like Archie. Yeah,

798
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,360
I want to see him like kind
of go off on the on the Pacers.

799
00:56:37,599 --> 00:56:40,519
Okay, that's legit. They're gonna
boo him for for no reason.

800
00:56:42,519 --> 00:56:45,239
That's a good pick. I went
with Russ last time, which happened,

801
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:50,559
right. I'm gonna go James Harden
bounced back efficiency game. He shot thirty

802
00:56:50,599 --> 00:56:52,559
three percent, only shot twenty five
percent from three in the last game.

803
00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:58,320
He was still very good your six
shots. I'm picking my player of the

804
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:05,480
game. Could I pick my player
of the game. I'm excited to see

805
00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:09,199
James Harden to have an efficient game
against the Pacers. Apparently some people are,

806
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:14,079
Uh, that's what I'm looking for, tode James Harden. He's going

807
00:57:14,119 --> 00:57:16,800
for like it's gonna be him and
him and PG combined him for like sixty

808
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:22,719
four is what's gonna happen. And
it's gonna be obviously efficient. Well n

809
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:29,400
sixty four little he's the system,
all right, and then we have this

810
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:35,280
schedule's brutal MAVs Thunder back to back
Wednesday and Thursday. MAVs are not gonna

811
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,039
have Kyrie most likely, we kind
of have the blueprint to beat him.

812
00:57:38,039 --> 00:57:43,519
I believe this is the first matchup
against the thunder Fellas. What are we

813
00:57:43,639 --> 00:57:46,400
thinking about this back to back?
This is a damn gauntlet right here.

814
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,079
That's why I was saying, like, if we dropped the if we dropped

815
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:52,280
the Pacers game, but somehow won
both games of this back to back,

816
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:58,239
that would be that to me,
would somehow be even bigger. Well,

817
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:02,440
yeah, it would be. It
would be as big as the seven game

818
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:07,159
win streak almost. Okay, I
can see that in terms of how these

819
00:58:07,679 --> 00:58:10,440
two teams are playing right now and
all that stuff. Adam, where are

820
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,239
you at? How are you prepping
for this? This is gonna be a

821
00:58:13,239 --> 00:58:17,880
stressful back to back. I think
they need to win in Dallas because okay,

822
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:22,199
see, legitimately scares me. Okay, and just getting them on the

823
00:58:22,199 --> 00:58:23,639
second night of a back to back, that's what it is, right Dallas

824
00:58:23,719 --> 00:58:25,639
on the front end. Okay,
see on the back end. Yep,

825
00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:30,880
I check the Thunder schedule because I
haven't. That's what I'm saying. More

826
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,400
impressive than a seven game win streak, winning this back to back beating nuts.

827
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,000
Yea, the Thunder have a lot
of time off. The Thunder play

828
00:58:38,039 --> 00:58:43,199
on Monday. They don't play us
until Thursday, so they have a lot

829
00:58:43,239 --> 00:58:45,800
of time off. You mentioned the
OKAC nightlife earlier. Hey, hey,

830
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:52,760
it's electric over the well and say
with the maps, so we're getting teams,

831
00:58:53,079 --> 00:58:57,800
We're getting teams on three days,
rest, one on three, one

832
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,039
on four, Okay. So he
just scares me a lot more than the

833
00:59:01,119 --> 00:59:05,960
Dallas Mavericks at this point, even
if Dallas had Kyrie Irving. And maybe

834
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,480
that's recency buyas because they held him
to eighty eight points at home in a

835
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,880
good victory over them on a back
to back, But sure, yeah,

836
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,119
I agree with. I don't know
if we talked enough about Paul George Will's

837
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:22,199
pick against Indiana. He was really
good yesterday in the second half. I

838
00:59:22,199 --> 00:59:23,960
think he had nineteen but twenty five
points in the second half, and he

839
00:59:24,239 --> 00:59:28,400
was the people. He's still hurt
and then he just lit it up in

840
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,920
the second half and It's like,
this is what coming back from an injury

841
00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:36,760
is. Like he was destroying RJ. Barrett, just crossing him over left

842
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,320
and right, getting whatever shot he
wanted. It was some nasty stuff from

843
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:45,039
PG thirteen. I did so.
I did that the Knick's Film Room podcast

844
00:59:45,079 --> 00:59:49,880
with Anthony Claudio. There's a group
of Knicks fans who like love RJ.

845
00:59:50,039 --> 00:59:52,000
Barrett and are like, it's called
like the Barrett Hive or something. He

846
00:59:52,039 --> 00:59:55,119
says, they're terrifying. It's like
their version of the Russ Stands, but

847
00:59:55,360 --> 01:00:01,000
a way worse player than Russell Westbrook
RJ. Barrett. So I hope Anthony's

848
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:06,800
doing okay with all that stuff.
Will what are you most worried about?

849
01:00:07,039 --> 01:00:10,480
I like the idea that we should
win in Dallas because the rest and all

850
01:00:10,519 --> 01:00:15,840
that stuff, like the thunder or
firing on all cylinders right now, Yeah,

851
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,920
I mean, especially given the run, like the rest disparity against the

852
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:22,440
young team. I mean, Okacs
has to be the more dangerous of the

853
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:27,400
two games. Although you know,
shorthanded Dallas, I mean you could get

854
01:00:27,639 --> 01:00:31,719
you know, you could get lured
into something that's true. Luca's getting forty

855
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:36,159
five sure, I mean, yeah, you got to slow down everybody else.

856
01:00:36,239 --> 01:00:38,000
He's gonna be pissed after the last
game against the Clippers if he hasn't

857
01:00:38,039 --> 01:00:42,559
been pissed since twenty twenty, twenty
twenty one, like it's it's all fuel

858
01:00:42,599 --> 01:00:45,599
for him. That's a good call. Yeah, So you're saying, one

859
01:00:45,639 --> 01:00:47,719
on one with Luca, don't let
the assist numbers go up, like we

860
01:00:47,719 --> 01:00:52,519
were talking with Yokic, keep the
assists below the season average. Can't let

861
01:00:52,599 --> 01:00:54,960
him be a score and a playmaker
to that high level. And then with

862
01:00:55,039 --> 01:01:00,280
the Thunder, defensive assignments get really
interesting. There's a lot of pressure on

863
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:06,039
Terrence I think in this this Thunder
matchup to we know he can switch and

864
01:01:06,039 --> 01:01:07,480
all that stuff, but he's gonna
be switching a whole bunch as the Clipper

865
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:13,280
switch a lot, and like that's
I'm excited. I mean, I'm really

866
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,000
excited for these I guess from like
the neutral ish perspective that I have,

867
01:01:16,119 --> 01:01:21,400
But the defense that the Clippers throw
out against the Thunder is gonna be as

868
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,519
close as what we've seen so far
this season to what we're gonna see in

869
01:01:23,519 --> 01:01:28,360
the playoffs. I think because just
because of the Thunder being so good and

870
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,360
they want to, you know,
make this interesting game, hopefully. How

871
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:36,800
good has James Harden been at times? It's not always forty eight minutes or

872
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,159
how many he's out there thirty five, but he's had some really good defensive

873
01:01:40,159 --> 01:01:45,239
possessions for the Clippers over the last
week. Eye opening stuff. Belie.

874
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:50,400
He's looking like Roco with his hands. The swipes he had at the end

875
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,199
of the game against the Golden State
Warriors were game ceiling or saving. They

876
01:01:54,199 --> 01:01:59,920
were that important. He had four
blocks in that game. It's it's crazy

877
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:04,519
the level of effort he's put in
on the defensive ends so far as a

878
01:02:04,519 --> 01:02:08,360
Clipper, pretty pretty consistently during this
winning streak. There haven't been a ton

879
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:13,199
of those defensive lapses where you see
the same play on Twitter over and over

880
01:02:13,239 --> 01:02:15,639
of people saying, oh, look
at James Harden getting beat on the perimeter.

881
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:21,360
He's been good man. Well,
it's crazy. The Thunder have just

882
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,159
around the same line assists per game
as the Clippers do. We're right around

883
01:02:23,159 --> 01:02:30,559
like twenty five twenty four ish,
which is since SGA ISOs a lot,

884
01:02:30,679 --> 01:02:34,599
I mean yeah, and the Thunder
do not turn it over. They're fourth

885
01:02:34,599 --> 01:02:37,000
and turnovers. We're still a twenty
four, a game that hasn't gone up

886
01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:40,000
at all. No, it's like
we're right around twenty four to twenty five.

887
01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:45,280
But it surprises me a little.
But they're number one in fewest turnovers

888
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:49,840
over the last fifteen games, the
Clippers. They only had six last night.

889
01:02:50,039 --> 01:02:58,280
It's been tremendous. James Harden has
twelve assists to one turnover for the

890
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:02,079
game before that, taking care of
the basketball at an all time level for

891
01:03:02,119 --> 01:03:05,960
the two to one three era right
now. And they have to in these

892
01:03:06,039 --> 01:03:09,920
three games. They're gonna we cannot
give these I mean now we're talking about

893
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:14,360
what the backback. We cannot give
these teams easy buckets. Honestly, that's

894
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,360
probably that's point, Chuck. If
they're gonna have a chance to win two

895
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:21,119
of three, it starts with them
taking care of the basketball the same way

896
01:03:21,159 --> 01:03:27,800
they have over the last fifteen.
Because Indiana's gonna get in transition Dallas some

897
01:03:28,039 --> 01:03:31,519
two okay s for sure. And
to your point, the defense last night

898
01:03:31,519 --> 01:03:36,400
against the Knicks, the one blemish
you could say was the Knicks I think

899
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,519
had twenty one fast break points and
the Clippers did give up a couple of

900
01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:43,199
easy ones in transition. Yeah,
yeah, And the Thunder. I mean

901
01:03:43,239 --> 01:03:45,599
they let go, they let teams
take threes, Like they give up the

902
01:03:45,639 --> 01:03:50,800
second most amount of threes per game, but their top ten to three point

903
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,039
percent. Like this is Clipper's gotta
be tight? Who this is kind This

904
01:03:54,079 --> 01:03:58,480
is an interesting one I think for
this podcast. Who's our player of the

905
01:03:58,519 --> 01:04:02,760
back to back? Who's to have
two great performances in this back to back

906
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,760
to either split or lift the Clippers. I mean it's gotta be quiet,

907
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:14,360
like, Okay, can't pick him, He's got to that's too well,

908
01:04:14,719 --> 01:04:18,840
he can't pick Kwi Zoo. Zoo's
gonna be like, yeah, who's gonna

909
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:23,559
be Zoo's gonna have to have like
thirteen boards in each of these games,

910
01:04:23,599 --> 01:04:26,440
like for things, not in a
bad way. He can do that,

911
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:31,000
but we're gonna have We're gonna need
a big presence down low to start like

912
01:04:31,079 --> 01:04:34,079
this is. We know he's gonna
be matched up on Luca at some point,

913
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:39,840
Like Zoo's gonna be other than Kawhi. Zoo's gonna be very important this

914
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:45,719
one. I'm going Terrence Man.
Terrence Man two to four from distance against

915
01:04:45,719 --> 01:04:49,239
the Knicks, and there were big
shots. I believe both of them came

916
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:53,239
the end of the second quarter when
the Clippers went on that twenty to five

917
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:57,440
run to end the first half and
he had turned one down on the right

918
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,159
wing. There was a timeout after
the Knicks from making a run, and

919
01:05:00,199 --> 01:05:04,400
then one or two possessions later,
he took one on the right wing and

920
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:10,400
knocked it down. And obviously Dallas
will light a fire under Terrence Man.

921
01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:13,920
It's a back to back, you're
gonna need some young legs. Terrence Man

922
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,559
has that, and he'll also be
the guy point of attack defense against SGA

923
01:05:16,679 --> 01:05:20,039
to start things off against ok see
if they're gonna have a chance to win

924
01:05:20,559 --> 01:05:25,519
one or both of those ball games. Really all three, Terrence Man might

925
01:05:25,559 --> 01:05:28,880
be my key for this road trip, honestly, if he starts knocking him

926
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,719
down from the outside, guys,
the starting lineup can still be better,

927
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:39,119
and their numbers are already ridiculous now
over the last fourteen games with the new

928
01:05:39,199 --> 01:05:42,719
starting lineup, because Paul George missed
one of them, so it's not fifteen

929
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:47,320
games but fourteen. Offensive rating one
twenty three, defensive rating one oh seven

930
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:53,639
sixteen point two is their plus net
rating out there. But they've been shooting

931
01:05:53,719 --> 01:05:58,159
fifty three percent from the field and
forty three percent from three in fourteen games

932
01:05:58,159 --> 01:06:00,960
with the new starting lineup and Terror, even though he hasn't shot it well,

933
01:06:01,239 --> 01:06:05,400
they're shooting forty three percent with him
shooting what twenty percent from the outside

934
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:11,800
right now? What if he gets
on a heater that I think norm norm

935
01:06:12,159 --> 01:06:13,960
in the back to back, I
think he has to go. I think

936
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,440
he ends up going nuclear in one
of the games. And I would,

937
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,559
okay, I would put it in
the Okay See game just with entire legs.

938
01:06:19,719 --> 01:06:23,480
I would think that he's gonna get
some more shots. And Dallas does

939
01:06:23,519 --> 01:06:25,840
still have some good wing defenders.
So I don't know. I don't know

940
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:30,000
if he'll get uncorked in quite the
same way in that games as the potential

941
01:06:30,039 --> 01:06:32,840
for that uh Okay Sea game.
It's gonna be a fun week of basketball.

942
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,480
Could be a good time, Adam. I was gonna have you kick

943
01:06:36,519 --> 01:06:41,000
it over to you say something positive, but that the tirade about the starting

944
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:45,239
lineup was so good. I was
actually gonna bring up a concern that eventually

945
01:06:45,239 --> 01:06:48,199
comes around and being positive. I
have been let's talk about it. I

946
01:06:48,239 --> 01:06:53,599
have been concerned that, Okay,
what happens if Kawhi doesn't shoot sixty three

947
01:06:53,639 --> 01:06:57,119
percent from the field over the next
couple of weeks. What happens to some

948
01:06:57,159 --> 01:07:01,559
of these wins. But the truth
is, James Harden can still be much

949
01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:06,000
better. If you're thinking there's gonna
be some regression because they're playing so much

950
01:07:06,039 --> 01:07:11,559
above their head, not really.
Kawhi is on an all time tear.

951
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,480
But Paul George can be better.
James Harden can be better. Russ is

952
01:07:15,519 --> 01:07:17,599
getting better in his roll off the
bench. I just mentioned Terrence Man if

953
01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:20,719
he starts shooting it well from the
outside beats a Zubas. I don't think

954
01:07:20,719 --> 01:07:25,519
he's going anywhere for the production we've
been seeing because he's next to James Harden.

955
01:07:25,559 --> 01:07:29,320
Now, this group, they are
only twenty games in. With James

956
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,920
Harden, there's no reason to think
that they've peaked early yet, is my

957
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,440
point? There we go, we
haven't peaked early. It's the dream.

958
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:41,079
We're peaking at the exact right time. Who doesn't want that. We're gonna

959
01:07:41,079 --> 01:07:44,559
have some double dips this week if
we can get fit into the busy schedule.

960
01:07:45,239 --> 01:07:47,440
Over on A five seventy, Adam
was a fantastic job listen pre and

961
01:07:47,519 --> 01:07:51,480
postgame. Also listening to Carlo Amennez, friend of the show, great commentator.

962
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,480
They have all what you need on
game days. Over at a five

963
01:07:56,559 --> 01:07:59,599
seventy tripod on Friday. Could be
fun. I don't know, it could

964
01:07:59,639 --> 01:08:04,599
be a fun time. Call me
crazy Christmas huh Yes. Reviews help us,

965
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,679
subscribers, help us over on YouTube. Shout out to everyone who's new

966
01:08:09,159 --> 01:08:12,119
who likes to watch us talk to
each other. It's a good time.

967
01:08:13,199 --> 01:08:15,359
Adam, you've already said a wonderful
positive thing. Will anything to say for

968
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,960
Montana? How's the Clippers contingent?
And Laurel Montana? Have you seen a

969
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:23,720
lot of Clippers fans out there?
I have not? All right, Well,

970
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:28,439
we got to do an operation Dumbo
drop for some Clippers gear dropping out

971
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,680
of a big plane or something.
Thank you everyone who's listened to us.

972
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:36,800
You can find us on Spreaker,
Deezer, iTunes, Spotify, pods.

973
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:45,239
Am I missing anything? What's rod
at? By his book? By Round's

974
01:08:45,239 --> 01:08:47,239
book. He came on a Clippers
podcast Froromota and he said bad things about

975
01:08:47,239 --> 01:08:50,199
the Clippers. That means, you
know he believes in his art. We

976
01:08:50,279 --> 01:08:55,039
will be back with you all.
We hope you have a wonderful holiday season

977
01:08:55,079 --> 01:08:57,920
and a great evening and as always, let's go Clips.
