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thousand UFO sightings reported around the world
every month. Ninety percent of these sightings

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can be explained, but ten percent
cannot. Officially and unofficially, the US

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military has been investigating the UFOs since
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is to mind out what's behind these
unexplained sightings. The Pentagon classifies them as

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unusual airborne anomalies, but a better
term is X files. Join us now

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as Mac one one and Commander Cobra
explore these unsolved cases UFO incidents that daffle

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even the US military. This is
mac Maloney's military X files and now here's

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Mac Maloney. Well, good evening
and when the walkoo Macloney's militracksund show.

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Here in the distant Thunder Radio Network. This is Mac Maloney. What a

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show we have for you tonight.
But first let me introduce you to the

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members of the policse curls. Get
ready, sit yourself down, get your

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fan, get you missed a get
your big box of Cleenics, you big

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box of wipes, your squeegee it
you lou because you see the very famous

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one one money. Hello Mac,
Hello girl, Hello everybody. Welcome to

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the show. Glad to be here. It's always a pleasure. That's a

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really long introduction. I look forward
to the show all week. I know

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that. That's a really long interdem
every night, you know you would you

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do it every day? Let's do
again? Would you do a show every

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day? Would you do a show
five days? I was in this if

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I was in a similar time zone
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ahead, yeah yeah, it would
be better. Yeah, but then I

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do it. That's okay. That
was that was back in the USA,

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which could be happening this year.
Cool, that's good. We need to

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play you well. Drinking with it's
nothing else. If calls from customers say

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when are you coming back? Have
you really young? Were? We haven't

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really made hard and fast plans,
but we want to do it, so

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we're hoping it's by the end of
the year. Yes, well that's good.

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The end of the year is coming
quick. Dare my friend lum?

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I know so anyway? Also with
us is national correspondence with blade Steve Watt

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twitching And it's great to be here
tonight. Good to see a switch,

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good to see you too, to
see everybody, to see anybody, good

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to be seen at, good to
be anywhere. Now listen, I don't

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want to be the one to pull
the pin out of the handrenide. But

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he has no pot tonight. He
has no pot in his hair tonight a

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week ago. Normally, if it's
short enough, I don't have to worry

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about it. Right there is There
is no part there, but it is.

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It's a good cut though, And
you know it's not like I ever

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had a carry grant steam pressed part. I mean that guy was chased through

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a cornfield shot at He soon got
a little dirty, but his hair wasn't

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messed up at all, not at
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a single ball keep disturbed, right, No, no, of course not.

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But listen, just carry grant for
Christ. Thanks. But before Club

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comes on, I just got to
say I'm going to be the one to

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point it out. A week ago, his pot was so symmetrical, we

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said before it looked like a bullet
grazed him. Okay, it was so

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straight and no one. Now it
looks like he has a whiffle or something.

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I don't know. I'm with you, Club, I think that something's

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up. Well, the bullet won't
healed. Oh really yeah, okay,

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all right, that makes sense.
Okay, we got a feel with it

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today, saying you've been hurrying,
switches. What did he have for breakfast

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segment? Please don't hurry yet anymore? Sign switch, sign switch. That

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voice you hear is a security chief, Willie, Club, Willie. How

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you doing? You know? Mac? I'm feeling real good tonight and looking

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forward to the show and be here
now with someone who compares himself, you

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know, to a movie starck.
Yes, it's amazing. I don't see

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it, but maybe maybe it's somewhere
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to carry if I had the opportunity, it would have said Clint Eastwood.

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But yeah, I mean I make
my day pal carry grant. You know

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you got to hight for him.
But yeah, he's a little No,

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I don't see it, but I
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as he says, it's might be
in there some way switch you don't

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know. Also with us calling it
from a remote location, I can hear

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his bees in the background. Can
you heal him? It's uh uncle,

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all the kiddy's pal buttle but not
not let me hang on. It's UFI

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mechanic Alvin. Now though, al
how are you doing? I'm doing great.

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Mac. You probably hear my Pellett
stove in the background. Is that

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always mistook it for the bees?
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hear it. Okay, well it's
a problem. I can close the door.

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Yeah, if you hear a boom, it's a problem. Other than

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that, why do you have a
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degrees though here not where we ure
windshield. It's windshield here is Yeah,

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it's like a freezing fog. When
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On the cow and uh, yeah, it's got to be at least ten

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degrees cooler. And then you get
up to Newport it's not. But that's

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like how it is here in the
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Those wind currents are from all over
the place. It has its own

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micro climate here. And anybody will
tell you normally do we live on an

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island, but we live on the
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the most wind and rain. I
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they getting snow, so you know,

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but you live in the talk a
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edge of the island, you know
what I mean. You live on the

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border the edge. And I can
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bell without binoculars from my flat window. I mean, it's right there.

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What is sorry, hang on said, you can see the Isle of White

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from your like apartment window. Yeah, and what is it? Tell people

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what the ally Way is? Please? Well, the Island of White is

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a very famous by the way island
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of England. It's it's part of
I believe it's still part of the county

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that we live in here on the
mainland. But it's it's huge. It's

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a big places. There's a lot
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towns in it that you can visit, that people live. People actually live

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there full full time. If they
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to the mainland, they have to
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living in Cape Cod, in the
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it's it's a home of some very
famous music concerts, the Island of Wight

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Festival, which has been been displayed
since the sixties. It has featured a

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lot of famous artists and and continue
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own train system, they have their
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they have the whole deal. And
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another island. It's it's pretty cool. Eileen and I have been there a

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couple of times and just ventured a
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historic sites on it too, a
lot of there's a lot of old castles

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everywhere you go around here. It's
it's an old castle. You look at

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it and you go, is this
like make believers? This real, and

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it's real. So thanks Alpha joining
us tonight. We appreciate it. I'm

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glad to be here. Mac.
It's always a pleasure. Uh. And

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I didn't have to I didn't have
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remote. I wonder if they'll live
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I wonder if they'll misses at the
fisty moose slash sea dog slash stop and

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going. Well, you know,
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Well I could meet you there,
but since you since you're sick Marc.

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Yes, she doesn't. He could
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at the other end of the bar. How did you get to the station,

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Marca uber No, I drove Switchy. Why what are you writing a

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book? What are you writing a
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the chat. I'm making a mystery. Pretty nasty, Yeah, switch I

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just spilled my beer. Steve mac
maloney, unveiled. There you go,

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unveiled. You got COVID mac no
no no, also joining us, hopefully

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a ray of sunshine into this otherwise
doc show is super fans Susan Ka down

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there in North Carolina. We will
clap for you. Susan. Yeah,

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also known as the Hutch. Everybody
today, we're doing good. I'll tell

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you of that. Now, there's
some kind of animal in the frame.

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There was that a looks like a
cat. Okay, right, yes,

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what's his name? Do you remember
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of venimals. Can you remember all
their names? I can't really. This

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is Benton Bent, Yeah, that
name he came with. And what what

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what? What? What? What
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of a dog president of the cap
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he's a rescue. He was abused, so he's got like a little anxiety.

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Best on, he's brindled that pretty
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and and like Jack Russell Terry are
kind of wow, that's quite a combo

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beautiful. Yeah. Yeah, he's
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so he's wicked stressed out today.
Ye we understand, So no Rimam type.

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But Susan has joined us. Thank
you very much, Susan. We

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appreciate it. And later on,
so it's gonna be a very interesting Shoes

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night Club is going to give a
report on this Russian secret weapon that is

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supposedly going to be voting near at
soon nuclear bomb on board could drop it

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any time anywhere. Also, Switch
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us about a supposed diary of a
guy named Admiral Byrd who went down to

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the South Pole and saw some pretty
strange things. So some people say,

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some people say he went down there
as an expert exhibition expedition to Antartica and

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found out a lot of great things. But there's always this kind of rumors

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and myths as opposedly he saw you
know, UFO, etcetera, etcetera.

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Switch is going to fill us in
on that, and then later on our

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good friend doctor Simeon Hind. We
need a doctor on every show. As

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it turns out, he's going to
be joining us in Bold to call around.

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A very interesting guy into all kinds
of stuff, bigfoot stuff, UFOs

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and everything in one one. He's
a friend of Steve Howe guitar player fall

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Yes, yes, yes, yes, wow. So that's the show now

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good? Yeah? Yeah, cool
guy. Oh I to get Steve Howell

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on the music, Sure, it'd
be great. Can you imagine that I

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wouldn't know what they asked? I
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I'd blow it. I haven't too
much for you know, so much for

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fan, you know what I mean? Because Steve might not be doing much

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of anything right now, I don't
know. Some of these guys are gonna

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take a lot of time off,
and you know while they're out, they're

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about ninety years old. Boy.
Yeah, they're getting up there, so

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you know they need the time off. If I mentioned being a like seriously

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an eighty year old rock style like, uh, Mick Drag, I say,

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you're getting ready for those whole you're
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come, man, I can't imagine
it. Yeah, me neither. But

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they're all on TV. They had
Rod Stewart. Yeah, there's another one.

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I saw that. He's eight.
He's eighty years old. Yeah.

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I think he goes out on the
stage. Yep, No, and uh

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he loves it. He said he
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there, hearing people's sharing and everything. The guy looks good. He's got

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he's got seventeen grandchildren kai by and
by three wives. Yeah is that five

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wives? Yeah? Five wives?
Yeah, five wives, yeah, five

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wives, seventeen graduate. You've been
married the most current one now for about

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seventeen years, right, that's going
to last. And his wife, this

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is most of the music show.
His wife is a cop. She's a

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local constable. Believe it or not. Okay, now, she had to

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be really bored. Man, she's
a copper. She had constable. She's

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well, she's a cop because she
can arrest people. Yeah, who knows?

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What does that detective? I forgot, I've got what the abbreviation is,

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the detective inspector. Yeah, she's
like a Bonnie Fife of their little

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local village. Yeah, a female
Bonni fight. Anyway, we have a

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top ten tonight, Top ten,
and Susan Kay has it. She's going

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to read it. And actually,
and the right is in the back room.

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Thought it was such a good topic. That is the top eleven Top

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eleven tonight. Susan, you have
the list, right, I absolutely do

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have the list when we stop the
music right here, and I believe it

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is uh. Top eleven reasons why
the club will not be playing for the

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New England Patriots this year. Okay, Top eleven reasons why club isn't signing

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with the Pats this year. Please
number eleven. You're doing this, You're

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putting me in here to bribe me. You know how bad I hate these

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man, and now you make it
eleven. I mean this is really painful.

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Club. Nothing against Susan is one. It's you. Okay, well

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let me go. Number eleven,
please Susan. Top ten. Top eleven

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reasons why club is not playing with
the Patriots next year? All right?

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Number eleven. No Tommy Brady,
No Willie Club. They'll Tommy Brady,

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No Willie Club. Hello? Is
this one that's true? I can't argue

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with you, all right? Number
ten? Please number ten. He lives

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in Wooburn now and there's too much
traffic driving to Foxboro. No, No,

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it's not I would go, would
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team. I would be the traf
Next please number nine, Please sus Number

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nine. Too many cats allowed in
the locker room. That's why Brady's not

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there. Any next seaking for yourself
there, Susan. Next, Please Susan.

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Number eight. The team plane doesn't
carry snacks. No, see,

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that would be a reason it would
next. Please just the quicker we go

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here? She is in the better
Okay, that's just how it turns out.

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Showing up at the player's parking lot
entrance and the guards assuming he was

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the team chaplain, Come on,
wow, wow, I'm sorry, club,

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this is a mistake that could be
made. I could see that.

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Go ahead. Please, jeez,
have you seen this year's uniforms pink red?

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Move no way? Wow? Okay, all right? Ten would have

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been too many. Eleven was waiting
so much? Next? Please, Number

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five the training camp menu does not
include chef boy. I d oh,

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wow, club, you're being ripped
on, club, you know. I

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think he knows it quite I think
it's quick clear to him. Next,

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please, Joseph. Number four,
Hey, since TB twelve and Dreamy Jimmy

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G left the team, there's no
chicks in the stands anymore. It's suns

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as fast. All those kill the
crickets. Okay, only the engineer can

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put the crickets on. So,
doll, you read that again, because

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that might have been summy, might
have been It might have been if I

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delivered it again. That's all all
right? Number four was Hey, since

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TB twelve and Dreamy Jimmy G left
the team, there's no chicks in the

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stands anymore, speaking sausage fast,
okay, almost over. Number three.

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This is number three third reason why
Klop will not be playing for the New

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England Patriots next year. He's too
busy promoting his new book, Pulling the

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Switch on Switch How to make a
bald man dance on tail Everywhere. Oh,

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I didn't want to publicize thats out
of the switch. He has been

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frozen? Is he frozen? It's
his camera for Oh no, he's moving.

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Okay, hurry next, please,
Number two, I'm sorry brought you

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into this. I'm so sorry.
I'm sorry that I brought you into this.

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Now I feel like you're a co
conspirator in this mess. Number two

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declared early on I go where Bill
Belichick goes. Unfortunately that's now the unemployment

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line, his loyalty to Bill.
Okay, please get to get rid of

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this, all right? Please a
year? Yeah, stuff to cry from.

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And then number one reason that club
will not be playing for the New

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England Patriots this year. He got
a better offer from the Jets, Jets,

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Jets that never happened yet. Wow, that was wrung on so many

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levels. So listen, why do
we do this? Why don't we take

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a commercial break now and fire all
the writers and we'll be right back after

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this. You're listening to Macloney's Bill
Treksaw show. You're on the distant thunderratio

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in that way, Please stay tune. Hey Mac maloney fans, this is

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Pistol Pete and I'm sitting here with
the one and only Mac Maloney. Hi,

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Mac, Hi paid. Now,
Mac, you've got a new book

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out called how to Dump a Body
at Sea and Not Get Caught that you

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wrote with our pal, famous crime
novelist Mark Zappula. How did this whole

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thing come about? Well, Mac
and I have this mutual friend that we

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would go out having beers with every
once in a while, and he had

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the same twenty stories that he would
tell us kind of over and over again,

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and at some point I said,
you know, we should write these

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down, and we did and it
turned into a book. It's such a

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crazy title. How'd you come up
with it? Well, kind of the

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same thing. We're in talking to
this friend of ours one night and he

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just said, you don't how to
get rid of a Body at Sea?

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And I can taught, And of
course we didn't know, and so he

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told us and the secret is in
the book. But I can say that

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it involves a lot of chain link
fence and some crabs. Now, Mac,

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you gave me an advanced copy of
the book, and like I said

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before, it's one of the funniest
things I've ever read. It reminded me

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of The Sopranos if the Sopranos had
a laugh track. Thanks Peter. But

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it also gives you instructions on how
to do some pretty shady stuff, stuff

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not exactly legal. Well. Yeah, the book is about the true life

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adventures of a dreuvenile Delinklent growing up
in Boston in the late nineteen eighties,

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so you get a lot of the
inside stuff like the best way to steal

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a ca, the best way to
burn a co how to make fake IDs,

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things like that. But in one
chapter you actually tell people how to

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turn an old, broken down Toyota
into a brand new Rolls Royce in five

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easy steps and it actually works.
Yeah. I know, it's sounds crazy.

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I didn't believe it until I saw
the proof, but yes, it

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actually works. Now, one last
question. There's a lot of laughs in

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the book, but also a lot
of pretty crazy stuff, legal and illegal.

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Is it really all true. It's
really all true, but on the

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advice of a publisher, they've asked
us not the same thing beyond that for

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legal reason, but yes it is
alter. Well, thanks Mac. That's

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how to dump a body at sea
and not get caught. The Al Ferrari

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story by Mac and crime writer Mark
Zappula. Get it today on Amazon.

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Welcome back and with the Macmoney's Non
Trek Saw show here on the Distantine Radio

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Network. This is Mac Mailoney,
well, we'll to show we have for

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you tonight very quickly. The gang
is here over there across the puddle,

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very sim is one one broadcasting live
all the way from England, southern tip

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of England, near the Isle of
Wight. Yes, like Wyght. Yes,

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we may or may not have a
whole section of the Isle of White

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in the show. Let's see what
happens, right, it's just as well.

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But you see you go over there, like an a ferry and everything.

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They have their rown buses and trains. Yeah, they have regular ferries

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quite often. How many people live
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kind of a deserted island. No, no, it's not deserted at all.

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So it's a densely populated island.
People live there and work there.

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They have practices there. Yeah,
the whole with the Isle of White.

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It was that nineteen seventy something that
was like one of the biggest best rock

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band rock albums. Have a live
rock live vet. Yeah, yeah,

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is Hendricks played there. Everybody played
there one time or another. Speaking of

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Hendrix, here's I don't know how
to go into it other than say that

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Switcher was a very good friend of
Jimmy Hendricks. As it turns out,

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they served in the How mey to
go? Switchy? How you doing this

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is a switch place? You would
down there, West Virginia Switching? Yeah,

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yeah, we were in non together. It was never actually in now

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Nom Okay, all right? Uh
was of Noms once, but it was

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that's a whole different thing, ok
okay. Switch. So you didn't see

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you didn't know Jimmy Hendrix. Is
that what you're saying? I didn't know

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Jimmy Hendrix. I did not go
to Vietnam like I was in the Navy.

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But I did not go to Vietnam. But you do. You did

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know Eminem right then you grow up
with him, You were pull with Eminem.

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Well, I hung out near the
same strip eight Mile Road. Yes.

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The thing is that I always made
very clear that even though I was

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grew up less than a mile from
eight Mile Road. Yes, I never

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had any Street Red and you're bragging
about that year. That's good. No,

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I'm just being I didn't see the
movie either. No. No,

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So you got beaten by the gangs
in the cops? Is that how?

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I just stayed stayed away? Say, I just stayed in the fetal position

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so they wouldn't hurt me. That's
how you go also with us? How

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am I gonna say this? Let's
just talk about the fetal position? Uh?

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As security chief Willie club Willy,
how you doing well? I'm doing

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great, Mac. I don't know
what that was referring to, like just

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as a gaza as they saying that
I'm not in the fetal position. No,

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that's obvious. I will be usually
by the end of the show though.

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You need both there, brother,
But it is great to be here

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tonight, particularly with a new member
of our cast. Carry Grant switch Carry

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Grant. Yeah. Wow, he
does have the glasses because later in life

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Carry Grant had those kind of big
kind of Hollywood plains did just around the

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time that he impregnated that movie star. Wow. Where the star was there?

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She was somebody, No, I
can't think of her name. She

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was attracted. Her name is Diane
Cannon. Diane Cannon. Yeah, yeah,

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he has a daughter. Yeah,
she was a lot younger than him.

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She was a really it girl back
then. And uh yeah he was

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an old guy, but his movies
and I had money, so I'm sure

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it was love though. Wow,
So out in that club, what else

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do you have to report? I
don't know. I just I'm right now.

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I'm just listening to everyone. I
want to take it all in.

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I'm it's still kind of taken back
by that Top eleven or whatever you call

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it that we did today. But
okay, all right, and that once

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again that may or may not be
in the show, so don't worry about

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it. So you have to Oh
good, then you'll have to cut me

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too, all right. Also with
us is uful mechanic? How we're now?

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Though? Ow? Hey Max?
Hello everyone? Two things real quick.

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I just looked it up. The
population of the Isle of Wight is

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like one hundred and forty thousand people, so it's not a small Yeah,

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that's a lot. And the other
thing is you were talking about Carry Grant.

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Yes, the kid that played Draco
Malfoy in the Harry Potter movies is

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playing him in a sort of yeah, a movie about Carry Grant. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, yeah, he
made he made up of the kid,

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done up like him, and he
actually looks pretty much like Granted the

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glasses and his real name. So
what was his real name? You know,

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Carry Grant's real name. Oh,
they say it in the movie,

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but I got it's a real British
name to Chibald Leech, Archibald Leach.

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Yes, he just created the whole
character of Carry Grant. That's kind of

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fascinating. Way. I don't think
he can do it these days without one

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hundred different you know, agents and
stuff like that. But they literally created

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kind of like another person from England, you know. Anyway, let's see

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also with us. Oh is our
super fan Susan Kay down in North Carolina

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talking about movie stars. Hi,
Susan, Hi, I'm far from a

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movie star, but I am so
happy to be here with all of you,

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all this talent in the room.
Oh yes, what room is that?

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Are you including club? When you
say that, thank you for laughing

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that switch by the way, would
you say carry yeah, Judy, Judy?

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Anyway, speaking of switch Switch,
we don't want to be hurried in

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this segment. So you had some
kind of fascinating breakfast this morning? Oh

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no, oh, well, well
I went to tutors and it's not terribly

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exciting. I had one pancake okay, yes, and bacon, but I

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asked for extra bacon not too crispy, good for you, go ahead,

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and hot black coffee I always ask. I mean, I can get it

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in the serrofoam cup, but I
always ask for the mud the glass,

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yes, coffee cup because it makes
me feel like a grown up. Interesting,

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You've got to have it that way
if you're going to eat it,

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and you have to have it.
Oh. Absolutely, It's like I just

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keep filling that baby up for a
couple hours while I sit there and read

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and just have a great old time. Wow, that's cool. You have

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a favorite waitress that tops off or
warms up your coffee, like every Well,

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the people behind the counter there are
there are a couple of young ladies

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there that will do that, and
I'm more an older lady that has probably

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been there for one hundred and fifty
years. Great lady, but you know

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they I usually go up and you
know, I want to get some blood

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moving in my legs, so I'll
actually walk up there to get the coffee.

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And for it myself. They do
come by sometimes. Good for you.

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Yeah, I love waitresses, we
all do, as it trends out.

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But look at so switchy. So
you had one pancake but a lot

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of extra bacon. Yep. I
like that. I like that breakfast.

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I like that. You know,
if you can eat bacon, why not

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eat you know, ten strips of
bacon. It's erst in the world for

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bacon pancakes. A little more bacon, yeah yeah, a lot of syrup,

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yeah yeah. Be the Baconator,
the bacony switcher. Okay, So

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anyway, I don't want to say
now that we've got that out of the

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way, but Club as a report
and I'm going to put his bumper in

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right now reporting the latest the US
military's new investigation into UFOs and what they

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still aren't telling you. It's time
for the Club report. Club, What

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do you have for us? Well, Mac, I think, as most

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people know now, about two weeks
ago, there was a lot going on

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in the world as far as Russia
and nuclear weapons are concerned. What happened

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was the Ohio Republican Mike Turner,
he's a chairman of the House Intelligence Committee,

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went to the press and announced a
serious national security threat. In the

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threat involved Russia looking to put a
nuclear weapon in space. He was very

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concerned about that, and so so
much concern that the next day he went

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on vacation for two weeks. But
needless to say, go ahead, excuse

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me. Now, I was going
to say, they must have really disturbed

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him if he went on vacation.
Yeah, he's two weeks to hold Congress.

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But anyways, after that, apparently
there was a real controversy because he

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wasn't authorized to really get out in
front of the press. They were confused

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why he did that. So anyways, then the president's national security advisor went

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out and spoke to the press and
tried to lay public concerns about the severity

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of this. The bottom line is
that it's not something that they found out,

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you know, the day before.
They've been aware that Boutin has a

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00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:12,039
thing with you know, with nuclear
weapons. He used that in Ukraine to

406
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:19,000
try to get the West from cutting
back on the kinds of weapons they were

407
00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:26,079
sending over to Ukraine. Yes,
and he also developed a nuclear powered supersonic

408
00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:30,200
jet and some of the nuclear powered
things. So you have to point out

409
00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:33,839
you have to point out these things
never go anywhere. I can tell you

410
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,559
in the past five years he's come
up what the nuclearia plane was one,

411
00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:44,279
the battleship that that floats on the
water was another one, some kind of

412
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:48,519
big summarine. And he does it
for internal propaganda reasons, saying, you

413
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:51,000
know, look that we have and
then no one ever questions him. Eleven

414
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:52,759
months you know later, you know, where is the nuclear powered jet?

415
00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:56,880
So I'm sorry, please, no, that's good. No, I mean

416
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:01,000
in hypersonic missiles. He's talking on
putting nukes on. But that's pot you

417
00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:05,279
know what he is. He's a
scumbag. And but the whole thing is

418
00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:09,160
that that's his only threat now is
he got our attention when he threatened the

419
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:14,839
nuclear thing in Ukraine, and so
now he'll use that all the time.

420
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:22,039
But anyways, they are in fact
building the technology to have a missile up

421
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:27,400
in space now based on what we've
been hearing, as I mentioned from the

422
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,720
National Security Advisor and others and the
president, apparently they believe that he's not

423
00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:38,440
building a weapon that he's going to
fire back at Earth that would you know,

424
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:44,000
be aimed at people at all.
Just be a nuclear bomb in space,

425
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,119
right, a nuclear weapon in orbit
which they which is they're forbidden by

426
00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:50,839
the UN. By the UN,
well that makes any difference anymore. But

427
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,319
you're not supposed to have nuclear weapons
in orbit, but they're going to scotch

428
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:59,000
that. I guess. Well,
they have a treaty they signed many years

429
00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:01,680
ago, Russia's and louted, and
they still abide by it as far as

430
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:07,640
you know, how nuclear weapons will
be controlled. But anyways, you know,

431
00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:13,799
there's two scenarios here that they're looking
at, and one is that it's

432
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:20,759
a space based nuclear weapon. We
already have something similar to that, but

433
00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:25,799
it's not a new idea or capability. But what this does, it's going

434
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:31,799
to have a radiation belt weapon that
they think what he would do is set

435
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:37,920
that thing off and it would go
after satellites, you know, sort of

436
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:43,039
what they call a kami Kazi attack
in space. Yeah, because but the

437
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,799
thing is, if he does that, you know, it's not as if

438
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:51,200
we spread all our satellites all the
you know, the folks that have them

439
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:53,519
up there in the countries, you
know, all over the place. If

440
00:33:53,559 --> 00:33:59,920
he did that, more than likely
this Kamakazi attack would also affect a lot

441
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:05,400
out of Russia's own Saturdays in China's
so you don't want to everyone. So

442
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:10,440
that's why they feel that that scenario
is really doesn't have anything to it.

443
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,559
So this guy was trying to scare
people. He got in front of the

444
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:17,559
media to kind of scare people to
get on TV because we're talking about it

445
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,199
exactly. And but anyways, you
know, the other scenario is, you

446
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:31,800
know, to have a satellite up
there with a nuclear capability that could be

447
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:37,000
used to attack other satellites in a
little different way. So the whole thing

448
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:40,960
now is it seems like a lot
of this was overblown, yes, by

449
00:34:42,039 --> 00:34:49,280
that announcement. It's interesting all the
different scientists and experts who have come out

450
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:54,199
recently to talk about this, and
one of them is Neil de grassy Tyson.

451
00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:59,559
You remember I know him, yep, you know, he's an American

452
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:06,079
astrophysicist. And according to O'Neil,
he said, uh, it's if it's

453
00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:10,880
anything, it's a nuclear powered weapon
powered to get it up there, versus

454
00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:15,960
being some kind of you know,
nuclear weapon to be powered bom bomb.

455
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:21,320
So he said it's not he believes
it's not a nuclear bomb, but that

456
00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:27,559
in that also it's not there yet. You're trying to develop it they've been

457
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,519
you know, their focus has changed
because of the Ukraine War, so they

458
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:37,880
haven't been able to put the emphasis
on that weapon. So so anyways,

459
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,840
the bottom line is that it looks
as though the world's safe for at least

460
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,679
for another day or two. That
it was strictly something that someone got out

461
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,920
and probably putin they expect, got
the word out to someone, whether it

462
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:55,800
was the Russia, the the Intelligence
Committee or whatever, to try to get

463
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:01,719
himself back and highlight the show to
scare us about what he's got. But

464
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,119
anyways, that's what it is.
It's a it's a potential weapon that is

465
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:14,960
probably going to be aimed at satellites
if they ever really complete their technology.

466
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,719
But in the meantime, everybody's saying, you know, calm down, there's

467
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,159
nothing up there now that he doesn't
have any nuclear weapon up there now,

468
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:27,400
and it's not going to be for
quite a while. But so and you've

469
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,039
got to understand, we have that
new Space Command, right and that's been

470
00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:36,400
their charge, you know, ever
since they've started. We're put together last

471
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:42,400
year that Space Force, and so
what they're doing they're building a more resilient

472
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,719
and protected space system up there.
So in the meantime, We're not just

473
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:52,320
sitting around letting this guy threaten us
with all these nuclear things. So anyways,

474
00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:57,880
I just wanted to get the word
out that things are a lot cooler

475
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,239
and calmer today than they were two
weeks ago. That's a relief, and

476
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:04,840
but you know, keep your eye
to the sky. Anyways, it just

477
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,880
reminded me of two stories real quick
back in just to talk about how sometimes

478
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:14,800
politicians came out speak when they shouldn't
and how it really affects people. During

479
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,000
World War Two, for the first
year, the number one secret that the

480
00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:28,320
US Navy had top secret was that
US submarines could actually dive to sixty feet

481
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,039
below and the Japanese thought it was
forty feet below. That convinced the Japanese's

482
00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:37,320
forty feet below, and so the
Japanese would drop that depth judges for forty

483
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:42,360
feet and for the first year they
kind of got away with that. Some

484
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:46,519
congressman came out and did a tour
of Pearl Harbor and you know, got

485
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:50,280
drunk with the admirals and stuff,
went home and he told that to the

486
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,039
press, and the Japanese found out, and for that next year, literally

487
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:59,280
dozens of submarines were lost and hundreds
of guys killed. Okay, that's why

488
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,920
you keep you fring, and we'll
shut especially when it has to do with

489
00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:05,280
anything with national security. Sure,
you're gonna get a buzz, you're gonna

490
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,079
get on TV, you know,
But you're a dick to do stuff like

491
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:13,559
that. Anyway. Whatever happened to
the adage of loose lips sick anymore?

492
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,000
No no one cares if you get
on TV. You'll say anything. Take

493
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:20,239
it from me. Thank you club
for doing this. Let's get club a

494
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:27,400
hand, you know why. Yeah, I'm making up comma for you now,

495
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,559
so go you can sleep tonight.
I heard that, why don't we

496
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:32,639
do this? Well? I have
had one comment about the story though.

497
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:39,280
The scientists have said that if you're
going to be trying to blow up somebody's

498
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:44,760
satellite, which is you know,
not a not a novel idea everybody wants

499
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,199
to do that, or at least
disable it, that the space debris created

500
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,800
by that would impact your own satellites
and your own stuff and it would just

501
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,039
be a mess. Yeah. Yeah, that doesn't make sense. That the

502
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,719
karma cause the effect, as they
call it'd be more likely to me,

503
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,239
you know, if you're gonna have
a weapon is to put a nuclear bomb

504
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,079
up there and threaten that, hey, you know, we can have this

505
00:39:06,199 --> 00:39:08,000
thing, you know, re entry
into Earth anytime we want, and so

506
00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:10,599
on and so forth. But I'll
tell you that would take longer than an

507
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,440
ICBM would. These days, an
ICBM can make from not the code of

508
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:20,599
the Moscow in like twenty eight minutes
or something, so you don't need the

509
00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:23,920
speed. Can you imagine if there
was a launch issue when they launched it

510
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:27,679
and something, yeah, power,
if it blew up on the path,

511
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,119
what happens then, Chernobyl imagine Can
you imagine if it blew up or a

512
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,800
crash? Oh man, anyway,
why don't we do this though? Let's

513
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,280
talk about blowing up and crash and
wun on. We take amiss right now

514
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:40,280
and we'll be right back after this. And you're listening to maclony's Milkdrey Saw

515
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:45,519
show here in the Distant Thunder Radio
Network, Please stay too. And I

516
00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:50,840
just kept going on and on about
myself. I'm taking a leak in the

517
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,239
driveway. Just I know you'd like
to talk to total stranger. The stories

518
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,199
had nothing to do with the Bruins
game. It's what happened with Grandma.

519
00:39:58,559 --> 00:40:02,400
I was wondering if those were sato
mess because of straps or something. But

520
00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:07,800
I digress from what I don't know. Get into the beautiful mind of one

521
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:52,039
one only on the macmaloney Military X
File show Welcome Back and went to macloney's

522
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:54,760
Little Tracks the show here on the
Dispinder video. Nowork, this is mc

523
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,000
maloney web show we have for you
tonight. Let me very quickly get to

524
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:02,400
this members of the Gang Girls.
You know he's here all the way from

525
00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:07,679
Costa Plut, very famous one one
J all away from the UK, all

526
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:12,840
the way from an accent, do
I ac you have not? You know

527
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,679
you're not. You haven't taken that
on you. I don't like Madonna's she

528
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:21,039
lived in the UK for about six
months. She came back on an English

529
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:27,199
She's affecting an English accent. But
sometimes you do be pretty impressed by some

530
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:32,119
of these British actresses and actors who
can do an American accent. Yeah,

531
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:37,440
like there from America, whatever part
of the country. Yeah, they do

532
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:39,440
it very well. It's amazing.
Usually on late night TV they always ask

533
00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:44,480
them to do an American accent.
Anyway, I've been doing the American accent

534
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:47,960
his whole life Switchblade Steve wat switchy. That's right. I have not awakened

535
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,079
with a West Virginia accent just yet. He's British And occasionally I'll say,

536
00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:54,519
you all though, do you really
not on here? You? Well?

537
00:41:55,199 --> 00:41:59,320
What's what's in a while? What's
in a while? Thank you? Switch

538
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,519
Virginia's a security chief. Willie Club
is with us w C. How are

539
00:42:02,559 --> 00:42:07,679
you? You know? Mark?
I'm good And I've been trying other accents

540
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,119
over time, really, but nothing
seems to work. So I just keep

541
00:42:12,199 --> 00:42:17,039
speaking this old New England original accent
of America slash Boston. Yeah, okay,

542
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:22,559
I got that. What's that speak
by type by speak? What the

543
00:42:22,599 --> 00:42:27,440
heck is that? Dragon? Yeah? Does recognize my accent? It's it's

544
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:31,159
it's worthless. Also up there,
that's the Boston accent. Up there in

545
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:36,719
the fire off Plumb Island is Aaron
Nowdough you with a mechanic out, Hello

546
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:43,679
Mac everybody EXTIMEE you ever say all
y'all? Yeah, y'all, all y'all.

547
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:49,880
That means you're real freaking idiot if
you say y'all. Also, Susan

548
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,880
K super fan down there in North
Carolina, Susan, how are you.

549
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,519
I am doing great. Hi everybody, nice to be here. Did you

550
00:42:58,599 --> 00:43:01,840
drive home? Has your boss an
accent that she does, that's how she's

551
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:06,559
on. Did you drive home?
Did you drive home in high speed today

552
00:43:06,639 --> 00:43:10,320
to get Are you kidding me?
I had to leave work early, so

553
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:15,159
yes, metal okay, last time
we got a speeding ticket? Bok right,

554
00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:23,559
yes, yes I did. It's
okay and there was no times have

555
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:29,719
changed, no discussion, no conversation
took place. Ma'am. Do you know

556
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,920
why I pulled you over today?
I said no, I really don't,

557
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,920
and he said license and registration.
He went back to his car. He

558
00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:39,119
walked back and handed me a piece
of paper and I thought, thank you,

559
00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:43,199
Oh my gosh, she's not going
to write me a ticket. When

560
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,960
I unfolded the paper, it was
a ticket. Ye. Yeah, yeah,

561
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,000
in that short amount of time.
No more sitting back in the car

562
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,239
and checking everything out. Yeah.
Well they needed to, you know,

563
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:59,760
make that quota. Anyway, speaking
of making our quota, and good guess

564
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:01,920
with us is how about that?
For is that the doctor simeon high out

565
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:10,639
there in Colorado? Let's flap them
on because I think, how are you

566
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:15,519
doing? Hey? Good guys?
And in case you can't tell I'm from

567
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:20,519
New York. You are? You
got a problem with that? Not anymore?

568
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,400
No, I'm working here. We're
in New York. Yeah, really

569
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:30,239
from New York, are you?
I am originally from New York where bouts

570
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:35,079
where the city? No way?
No, yeah, that's New York's a

571
00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:37,119
kid. And then in the sixties, you know, a lot of people

572
00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:42,840
are going out to the suburbs.
So my parents moved to Skysdale. Oh

573
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,679
well we've been better. Yeah.
I went to high school in Skysdale.

574
00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:51,719
Really, and then I went to
Amherst Mass Hamford College, and I went

575
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,920
to Mass School and Chusetts some of
you guys, wow, Yeah, my

576
00:44:55,079 --> 00:44:59,199
uncle lives in Boston, so I
got to Boston sometimes. Oh no,

577
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:04,199
no. And then I got you
know, I just got this graduate stipend

578
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,559
of go out the University of Arizona. That's how I ended up out west

579
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,039
here. Well, yuku by it
a little bit really, just getting a

580
00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:15,079
little better, Yeah, Scots Scott's
Deale the Beach is a little bit better

581
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:21,599
in Arizona. Just getting out here, not quite. Every time I go

582
00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:24,239
back to New York and we go
to this fantastic Italian restaurants, I said,

583
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:29,320
I say, Mom, this is
nothing like this out west. I'm

584
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:34,199
sorry, it's just not the same. But they're trying. Yeah, yeah,

585
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,039
yeah, yeah, there's two.
Just talking about New York City,

586
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:38,960
there's two really great delis down there, but one of them is going now

587
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,719
it was right down on the I
forget the name of it, but there

588
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,920
was I forget the name of the
to them anyway, this two of them.

589
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,719
And if you go in there,
think you a sandwich that's about literally

590
00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:55,719
ten inches high. That's the yeah, you know, con beef and it's

591
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,360
like butter, you know what I
mean. It's the Conegie is one of

592
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,159
them. Unbelievable and that, you
know, and it hadn't be in Boston

593
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:06,559
and stuff. It's just not the
same. It's not the same. Great

594
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:12,079
anyway, So do you come back
to next city? Now? Fascinated?

595
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:14,760
But yeah I did. I can't. Last time, I've got this new

596
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,920
res dog from New Mexico. Mom
said, she's ninety three, so I

597
00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:21,400
want to meet Astro. So we
put them in the car. We drove

598
00:46:21,559 --> 00:46:25,639
back east, Okay, and yeah, you go through all these Kansas and

599
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:32,199
Missouri and uh, Indiana, in
a little bit of West Virginia, Ohio,

600
00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:36,920
got to stop by, right Pad. That was interesting. Dayton,

601
00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:42,039
Dayton's something over there. Uh And
did you go to the museum in Dayton?

602
00:46:42,559 --> 00:46:46,760
Yeah? Great, Right Brothers Memorial
beautiful. Still you can see all

603
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:51,000
the little fields where they used to
test their flock. That was a fantastic

604
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:54,679
experience. And when you finally go
through Pennsylvania and you finally see the lights

605
00:46:54,679 --> 00:47:01,000
of New Jersey, you finally feel
I'm back in civilization. I'm just saying,

606
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,239
a grup back is how you feel
once you see New Jersey. Feel

607
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:10,760
like a paved roads again. You
know how you feel like oh Amish vehicles

608
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:15,400
actually occasionally see I'm not trying to
put anyone down from Pensylvania and these others

609
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,960
places, but it's just the feeling
having grown up back there and you start

610
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,719
seeing the signs and you see the
science in the city and you feel like

611
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,760
you're back. But yes, I
came back over the holidays. I drove

612
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,159
back. It's a couple of days
each way, quite a long drive.

613
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:34,119
Mom got to meet Astro down here. A cat is it? No?

614
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,159
No, it's my res dog here? Okay, dogs are I got this

615
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:44,000
guy from a res dog adoption agency
at Reds dot Org and he happens to

616
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:47,840
come from vander Wagen, New Mexico, which is right where I worked on

617
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,239
the Navajo reservation during college. During
one summer I went out there for a

618
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,800
couple of months to teach English to
code talkers. Wow, these guys could

619
00:47:57,119 --> 00:48:00,960
word of English about to communicate with
their grandkids. And there was this program

620
00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:04,039
from the University of Indiana. And
I used to ride in the back of

621
00:48:04,119 --> 00:48:07,280
a pickup to go get I didn't
have a car. They would, the

622
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:12,480
Navajos would drive me up to Gallop
on the weekends to get groceries. Ride

623
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,239
in the back of their truck,
and we'd go through Vanderwagon. I never

624
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,480
thought i'd see anything from Vanderwagon again. Here this little guy is a is

625
00:48:19,519 --> 00:48:22,000
a vander Wagon Native. Wow.
Wow, okay, that's cool. Wow.

626
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,079
What kind of a car do you
have that you were making? Attended

627
00:48:25,159 --> 00:48:29,719
Jersey in two days from Colorado.
No, it wasn't two days, it

628
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,920
was four days. Guys. I
like to stop a little early, and

629
00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:36,920
I run businesses like you guys do. I've got publishing books to send out

630
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,719
your car responders, So I don't
drive more than a sensible and I like

631
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:44,519
to have a couple hours at night
to correspond with customers and things I have

632
00:48:44,599 --> 00:48:47,760
to do. So it was four
days. It was like eighteen hundred miles.

633
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,760
So what do you have, Covette? What do I see you as?

634
00:48:51,199 --> 00:48:54,400
I have Mom's old Honda two thousand
and one. Well, okay,

635
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,119
a friend of hers saw this at
you know, this gas station down by

636
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,800
near Scars Else train station, and
this guy new cars. Yes, yes,

637
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:05,480
Jack, and he said, he
said, to my mind, you

638
00:49:05,559 --> 00:49:07,800
have to get this the V six. This is the top line on the

639
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,039
cord from two thousand and one.
And that thing, we just got it

640
00:49:12,119 --> 00:49:15,239
up to seventy five thousand miles.
It just broke it in nice. Yeah,

641
00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:17,400
twenty years old. And I just
I bike a lot around here.

642
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,440
I'm in Boulder. I don't drive
when I don't need just so, and

643
00:49:21,559 --> 00:49:22,719
yeah, that was the great car
to get back there. You know that

644
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,039
V six engine. Let me hear
to boot guys, I'm telling you I

645
00:49:27,199 --> 00:49:31,119
got upper forties miles. I'm going
to throw it to al. You build

646
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:36,920
them twenty years ago doing the speed
limit seventy five, you could get upper

647
00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:40,840
forties on the highway. Close a
V tech engine in it didn't it exactly.

648
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,840
Yeah, my wife had an accurate
with a V tech. Do you

649
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,440
know what I'm talking about? That
I do know. Yeah, I'm gonna

650
00:49:46,639 --> 00:49:52,239
couldn't believe it. Upper forties,
low fifties on a V six and that's

651
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,679
those speeds unbelievable. Let me let
me, let me let me let me,

652
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,840
let me let me let me throw
it to al for a second.

653
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,880
L is the mechanic on the show. So those those are kind of well

654
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:06,119
known, right, don't say anything
bad about them, But no, they're

655
00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:09,159
anything hang gum, you know it's
a hang it's gonna lift for over bulletproof.

656
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:14,000
Yeah, you can get good miles. But how running two of them

657
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:16,800
is our daily driver? But how
about putting a six cylinder and something like

658
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:22,320
that? You know they did make
them, and you know there's that's the

659
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:28,079
V six. Yeah, the accords
for the Luxurious Squad they were a step

660
00:50:28,159 --> 00:50:30,079
up from the Civic, which was
more of a commuter, you know,

661
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:35,519
lower level, but you get into
the accords. They were comfortable they were

662
00:50:35,639 --> 00:50:38,000
to fight the camera, yeah,
and to make it, yeah, make

663
00:50:38,039 --> 00:50:40,519
it look like it's a real kind
of not So that's a that's a good

664
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:44,519
catego across the country. And that's
nice, you know, oh, great

665
00:50:44,639 --> 00:50:46,159
car, not too big, not
too small, you know two thousand and

666
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,519
one, the big car would be
small by our comparisons, but for you

667
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:55,719
and res dog, perfect and fast, quiet, comfortable. I mean,

668
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:00,079
it's that thing is just well built. Yeah, yeah, very economical at

669
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:05,519
the very economical, even all those
miles at fifty miles run forever. So

670
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,639
listen to you. A doctor,
What are you a doctor of? What

671
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:12,239
is your degree in your doctrine?
And can you Yeah? So my PhDs

672
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:19,760
in sociology. I specialized in statistics
and research methods, and for a time

673
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:25,000
I used to do economic sociology,
looking at effects of economic policy on social

674
00:51:25,159 --> 00:51:29,639
development. And I was just checking
one of these sites this morning, Academia

675
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:35,079
dot edu. You can actually see
who's citing your papers. I'm more well

676
00:51:35,199 --> 00:51:39,039
known for those papers I wrote thirty
years ago in some ways than even the

677
00:51:39,079 --> 00:51:45,280
stuff I do now with our normal
phenomena. Okay, I'm applying to published

678
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:50,320
on that website. Yeah, you
upload your papers in there's well, we're

679
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,360
in a huge global globe of people
who want to access information, and they

680
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:59,400
find the papers you wrote about economic
policy, and it's wow, they don't

681
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,159
care about our your UFOs or bigfoot
ornything they want don't know about economic policy

682
00:52:02,199 --> 00:52:05,719
and economic growth. I mean,
because they're living in a world that deals

683
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,960
with these issues every day, right, But they're boring. It's not that

684
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,519
they're boring, is that it takes
a while for people to get into them

685
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:17,320
and they just lose interests of these
days. If it isn't ten seconds forget

686
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:22,280
about it. Right. So anyway, that's what I used to do in

687
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,400
my previous life, and that you
know, in ninety six I came across

688
00:52:24,639 --> 00:52:30,119
the idea of remote viewing, and
I was an assistant professor at WSU in

689
00:52:30,159 --> 00:52:32,639
Pullman, Washington, the other side
of the country. But so do an

690
00:52:32,639 --> 00:52:36,840
interesting experience growing up in New York
and going out, Yeah, for sure,

691
00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:40,880
Washington. Do you believe that's that's
what I did? And yeah?

692
00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:49,239
Do you believe that you can improve
what we call paranormal events through you know,

693
00:52:49,639 --> 00:52:52,719
statistics? Yes? How do you
feel about that? I mean,

694
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,199
I believe in you, But what's
the method all the No. No,

695
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,800
Mackett's a really good question. I've
been thinking about this all day. Why

696
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,840
I decided to get a chat GBT
account and put in some of our favorite

697
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:07,800
topics and see what does chat GBT
tell us about remote viewing in UFOs Because

698
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,559
I was listening to someone saying how
it's so accurate and has an IQ of

699
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:13,840
one fifty five if you could measure
it. You know, I'm thinking,

700
00:53:14,159 --> 00:53:20,280
BS, it's not accurate on our
topics. It's not accurate on controversial topics

701
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,800
because it's just summarizing what people have
said. So I put in remote Viewing

702
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:29,239
MAC about the statistical accuracy and it
said it's unproven. Not only is it

703
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,639
controversial, but mainstream science doesn't accept
it because there's no data to prove it.

704
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:39,199
Hogwash. All you need to read
is Dean Raydon's books The Conscious Universe,

705
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,760
Supermind, all these books that Dean
Raiden has written, other people,

706
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:49,920
Russell Targan and other people. People
have been studying esp and claravoyance and all

707
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,719
these related subjects for over a century, and modern statistics only exist since around

708
00:53:54,760 --> 00:54:00,119
the nineteen twenties or so, so
they didn't have those methods earlier. The

709
00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:04,400
experiments have gotten better and better and
better, you know, finally end up

710
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:09,960
with PayPal places like Princeton Engineering anomalies
left parallels and they prove the effect of

711
00:54:10,119 --> 00:54:14,320
micro PK. They had people come
in and see if they could affect a

712
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,679
random number generator just generating ones and
zeros to make it go non random.

713
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,199
Okay, like, there's the device
there, they say, affect it with

714
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,840
your mind, make more ones.
There's They got odds of three hundred and

715
00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:30,199
seventy five million to one hundred and
seventy five trillion to one that this was

716
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,760
happened after twenty years of tests.
This is happening by chance because in statistics

717
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,800
everything you do, you say,
well, what's the possibility that people got

718
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,599
like ninety heads out of one hundred
flips just randomly? It can happen once

719
00:54:40,639 --> 00:54:44,679
in a while, right, you
know it's only going to happen once at

720
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,199
them. You know, a million
trials, you're going to get all heads

721
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:51,199
and no tails right after twenty years. To see that graph, I'm happy

722
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,880
to show to if you want to
pronunce screen when you're trying to make it

723
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:57,599
go towards ones, you can get
more ones cumulatly only two to three out

724
00:54:57,639 --> 00:55:00,440
of ten thousand. But after twenty
years that's a lot of ex for once

725
00:55:00,599 --> 00:55:05,800
yes or zeros. So it is
proven, and this so called AI I

726
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,920
think it's not as smart as people
are making it out to be. It's

727
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:13,000
not like it's not a useful tool
to find a summary of something, to

728
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,079
learn about a topic. I mean, if you're curious about something, you

729
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:20,920
can ask you a question and you
can find out all sorts of interesting topics.

730
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,000
But on our subjects that are controversial, it's going to give you a

731
00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:30,679
Wikipedia answer, and Wikipedia is biased. Yes, funny, So I would

732
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,800
say, to answer your question,
there's a lot of evidence for esp remote

733
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:40,000
viewing, Clara Boyan's telepathy precognition,
just from the statistical tests from places like

734
00:55:40,119 --> 00:55:45,960
Duke University and other places going back
one hundred years, and the controls have

735
00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:49,800
gotten better and better and better over
the decades. So you end up with

736
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,280
something like Princeton Engineering nomlies in other
places where they do hundreds of trials,

737
00:55:53,360 --> 00:56:00,159
and you see that you got results
above chance, right above chance. Us.

738
00:56:00,199 --> 00:56:02,199
That's what we're talking about. So
so things like, well, what

739
00:56:02,559 --> 00:56:06,599
of all the things that you mentioned, what I've heard the most that,

740
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:12,639
let's say the most interesting is remote
viewing Because we've had people round before who

741
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,360
were pretty high up in the military
at the time, and then other people

742
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:20,000
who knew about it and just these
stories they told us and we're you know,

743
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:25,159
more or less verified, and also
personal anecdotes that you couldn't make up.

744
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,079
There's something to it. But what
is it? Though? What is

745
00:56:30,159 --> 00:56:34,360
it? Do you have any examples? Right here? This is from my

746
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,320
book Opening Mines. Okay, for
twenty years at this point, I don't

747
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:42,840
think I would change anything. Everywhere
right, well, everywhere a great a

748
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,119
very good book. By the way, I read that when it first came

749
00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:49,719
out. Oh, thank thank you
very much. App Yes, I have

750
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,400
examples of our v in there.
I mean, this is what people can

751
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,639
do. Here's the Washington Monument and
look they get the Washington Monument. This

752
00:56:55,840 --> 00:57:00,159
viewer did not believe it was the
Washington Monument. It happened with in the

753
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,920
first two minutes of the session.
We use the sort of written procedure that

754
00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:07,559
Stanford Research Institute developed for CIA d
i A. At the time it was

755
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:12,519
a government classified program. It be
classified now, and sometimes you get these

756
00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:15,760
images and you don't believe it.
So this guy walked around to the Lincoln

757
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,880
Memorial down the reflecting pool. He
just couldn't believe it was the watching monitor.

758
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,159
But that was the target. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So you

759
00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:24,400
don't really know it's accurate when you're
doing it. You're just getting these clash

760
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:29,000
of images like race car, race
car. This guy said it can't be

761
00:57:29,079 --> 00:57:30,440
a race car, so he walked
around and said, it's a stadium,

762
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:36,360
it's a race car in oh,
well yeah, well ye rocket. So

763
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,599
this is what it looks like in
practice. These are total beginners. These

764
00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:44,960
are from my beginning classes, and
some of these sessions are from the very

765
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:50,320
first day. And then other times
we do double blind sessions where even the

766
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,800
monitor me doesn't know the target,
so someone can't say always like signal leakage

767
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:58,159
like you were y, yeah you
got it. Yeah, you were subconsciously

768
00:57:58,239 --> 00:58:04,159
telling them sign language or something a
hardcore scientist to there's some sort of leakage

769
00:58:04,199 --> 00:58:06,519
going on here. Well, this
is double blind where no one knows the

770
00:58:06,559 --> 00:58:09,559
target and they still draw the picture. It's up. So let's just just

771
00:58:09,719 --> 00:58:14,400
for you know, just for well
for me. So what happens is that

772
00:58:14,519 --> 00:58:20,519
you have a subject and he is
he she somewhere and you tell them to

773
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,760
what draw what's in their mind and
you have something already down this wash inlignment

774
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,880
and they drive away as them to
describe the target and they draw the washed

775
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:34,079
enlignment. Yeah, there's a protocol
for describing your impressions. It starts with

776
00:58:34,639 --> 00:58:38,480
very basic and gets more advanced during
the session, like the idea of an

777
00:58:38,519 --> 00:58:44,639
aperture opening to another aspect of your
awareness and non local awareness. And you

778
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,079
just ask them to describe the target. We can give them random numbers which

779
00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:51,320
could be written on the folder.
Just say, describe the targets associated with

780
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,599
these random numbers. They are random. They don't have any information on the

781
00:58:53,679 --> 00:58:58,079
tark. You read them the numbers
and they draw a little bit and they

782
00:58:58,119 --> 00:59:02,719
start describing the feeling of that line. And then they just scarped sensories like

783
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:08,360
an apertro opening up dimensions, magnitudes, colors, maybe purpose some sense of

784
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:12,559
intention, or they draw a little
bit. That's how we do it.

785
00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:16,440
In the beginning, I'm starting a
monthly class where people can just go by

786
00:59:16,519 --> 00:59:20,960
zoom, can join and learn how
to do this. And well that'd be

787
00:59:21,039 --> 00:59:23,159
great, yeah, because people all
want to try it out. So it

788
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,920
is a big surprise, guys that
this worked. I didn't think it would

789
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:30,519
work when I took a class in
ninety six. To me the East Coast,

790
00:59:30,519 --> 00:59:34,440
I'm skeptical it should be. It
worked better than I thought. Yeah,

791
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,079
got club. I had a question. I used to listen a lot

792
00:59:37,159 --> 00:59:40,920
to Ingo Swan. Yeah, what
do you think of you know, his

793
00:59:42,199 --> 00:59:46,320
research and his background with you know
pretty much it looks like he helped develop

794
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:52,440
viewing from the CIA. Yep,
you feel he had a lot of credibility.

795
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:59,360
Yes, he developed the system that
I teach CRB and he demonstrated his

796
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:04,000
ability used to Gertrude Schmeidler at the
City University of New York in New York

797
01:00:04,039 --> 01:00:10,719
City. Initially not with r V
with psychokinesis affecting these little thermistors in the

798
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,639
sealed thermosis. You know, they
changed their voltage, the current that they

799
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:20,079
changed the electrical flow based on temperature, and he was able to affect them

800
01:00:20,119 --> 01:00:24,000
from a distance. You could measure
the output. And he wrote to SRI

801
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,719
said I could do this. That
he sent him the paper he published and

802
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,679
they got him over there. I
talked to Ingo and I visited him in

803
01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:34,119
his building in twenty thirteen before he
passed on. I only got to visit

804
01:00:34,159 --> 01:00:36,960
with him once. We were going
to hang out a little more because I

805
01:00:37,079 --> 01:00:39,639
was living in Manhattan at the time
and my girlfriend lived up in Stytown.

806
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:45,320
So I just biked over to his
house once I found out exactly when we

807
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,239
tempted to r V where he lived, because we knew he was in like

808
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,199
down by Bowery or something, and
we got within a block. He said,

809
01:00:51,239 --> 01:00:54,480
this feels like Ingo's neighborhood. This
fields my girlfriend every time I worked

810
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:58,239
by that building. I used to
walk by there. I got this feeling

811
01:00:59,239 --> 01:01:00,719
before, you know, before we
knew where exactly where he was. I

812
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,880
visited with him and we had a
very interesting conversation for about an hour and

813
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,519
a half. Yeah, he was
the real he created this protocols. Yeah,

814
01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:14,199
yeah, yeah. Yeah. Supposedly
the CIA shut down that hole remote

815
01:01:14,239 --> 01:01:17,239
viewing area years ago. Do you
do you believe that or do you think

816
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:22,159
it's still over that somewhere. It's
a good it's a good question. Uh.

817
01:01:22,639 --> 01:01:29,440
It seems that the program that we
know about, uh Stargate, which

818
01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:34,400
had different names, It looks like
that was shut down. Obviously, Congress

819
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:39,440
funds programs in the show now doesn't
mean that they're not outsourcing it to aerospace

820
01:01:39,519 --> 01:01:44,280
companies or wherever they outsource stuff to
nowadays, because so much stuff is outsourced

821
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,159
since those days of the seventies,
and you know, getting into the UFO

822
01:01:47,239 --> 01:01:52,280
topic a little bit, it's pretty
clear that the crash materials have been outsourced

823
01:01:53,039 --> 01:01:58,320
to eliminate Foyer requests for info.
And we all know the name of those

824
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,559
aerospace companies. We know the names
of the companies that probably are involved in

825
01:02:01,639 --> 01:02:06,800
this. So would it be a
surprise that they're also outsourcing the RV for

826
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,360
people to do this. I mean, you do get useful information from it,

827
01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:14,599
sometimes sometimes not so much, sometimes
super accurate, like those sessions I

828
01:02:14,679 --> 01:02:17,760
showed you, and I can't believe
you wouldn't be doing some of that.

829
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,559
It doesn't cost very much. It's
just a Pierson with a pen and of

830
01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:25,679
paper. Yeah, so interesting.
Pretty supposedly the Russians are very big in

831
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:30,320
that. Yeah, yeah, look
at all the dum a wild good years

832
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:36,440
ago, when I was on w
KGI ray with Race Hobbs, we would

833
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:40,679
call this guy in Arizona who was
known for a remote viewing. He had

834
01:02:40,679 --> 01:02:46,679
written a bunch of books on remote
viewing. So one time and he would

835
01:02:46,719 --> 01:02:52,320
call some of his basements. So
one time he called, and no cameras

836
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,840
back then, and I said,
I'm going to I'm going to close my

837
01:02:54,920 --> 01:03:00,159
eyes. I'm going to imagine what
your basement looks like. And I did,

838
01:03:00,719 --> 01:03:05,559
and I saw like a block patent, you know. And I said

839
01:03:05,599 --> 01:03:09,280
to him, do you have like
cement blocks in a patent forming one wall?

840
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:14,400
He says no, but he did
take a picture of the blanket on

841
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,679
the couch and it was in blocks, you know. And I know that

842
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,360
was it just came to me.
You know that that's going to happen.

843
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,280
You know, I could have easily
said circles, you know what I mean.

844
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:29,639
So you always see about the ones
that work, but if it's if

845
01:03:29,719 --> 01:03:31,800
you prove them statistically, then they
exist, right am I? Right,

846
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:36,400
yeah, No, that's actually right, mac. You you don't want to

847
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,400
just be showing the ones that worked
and not showing you the thousand that did.

848
01:03:39,239 --> 01:03:44,280
What I saw immediately within a couple
of days of taking this class at

849
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:49,000
Farsight Institute back in the nineties,
you people were getting results. I was

850
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,280
getting results that way exceeded what you'd
expect from some sort of random process.

851
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:57,559
I mean, way off the charts, just way drawings and so forth,

852
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,079
really too accurate to be something that
was random process. You couldn't see how

853
01:04:01,119 --> 01:04:05,639
the information was getting from the target
picture to your paper, but somehow it

854
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:10,400
was coming through even if you weren't
conscious of it. So it's a it's

855
01:04:10,519 --> 01:04:15,679
the information like you're describing, it's
pretty subtle and it's fleeting. That's why

856
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:20,960
you need some training because normally we
just discard those very transient thoughts. It's

857
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:25,400
the opposite of our normal thinking process. It's not loud, persistent stuff.

858
01:04:25,719 --> 01:04:30,280
Yes, three D technicolor that tends
to be imagination. It's just very leading

859
01:04:30,159 --> 01:04:32,880
and it just goes across your awareness
and you're trained to write it down.

860
01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:36,400
Yeah, that's the accurate data.
That's very that's a that's a good way

861
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:41,320
to describe when sometimes and it's happened
you know a lot. You know in

862
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:45,119
my life when a stray thought will
just go through my mind just boom,

863
01:04:45,639 --> 01:04:48,119
and then it comes true like two
days later, you know what I mean.

864
01:04:48,239 --> 01:04:51,159
It's like, oh wow, I
thought about that for like one second

865
01:04:51,199 --> 01:04:55,440
a day ago, that type of
thing, And it's almost like if you

866
01:04:55,599 --> 01:05:00,639
can kind of be in command of
that, if you' were able to take

867
01:05:00,679 --> 01:05:03,760
advantage of just the straight thought that
goes through your mind, I could see

868
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,199
something like that happening. But what
do you what do you think it is.

869
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:11,440
Is it what we were able to
communicate between our brains or something,

870
01:05:11,639 --> 01:05:15,400
or what well the way our veers
think about it. Have you know seeing

871
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:20,000
this issue? I mean, just
these precognitive impressions we get. They many

872
01:05:20,119 --> 01:05:24,519
times turn out to be accurate.
Right before they pull you over for the

873
01:05:24,599 --> 01:05:27,880
ticket, you get that feeling,
you know. I've had it happen a

874
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,199
whole bunch of times driving where I
slowed down because I got that feeling.

875
01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:34,519
Yeah, all these deer were crossing. I couldn't have seen them at the

876
01:05:34,559 --> 01:05:38,920
time, but you got that sense, so I wouldn't slowed down. Going

877
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:43,000
into Seattle in a tunnel, I
had this strong feeling to turn the radio

878
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,360
off. Pay attention. There was
a wreck happened thirty seconds later. I

879
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:49,239
saw it. Cars skid off and
hit the side of it. I got

880
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,639
that feeling. How did I know
thirty seconds before? Maybe you could say,

881
01:05:53,679 --> 01:05:57,280
well, you saw subconsciously the car
was losing, don't whatever. What

882
01:05:57,519 --> 01:06:02,559
we believe is that we live in
a multiverse where the future is already happening.

883
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:08,960
We're programmed to follow our eyes in
our ears because it's survival oriented,

884
01:06:09,079 --> 01:06:13,880
and that's usually what matters the most
when you're on the savannah with predators.

885
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,480
Is you got to focus on what's
in front of you or you won't be

886
01:06:15,599 --> 01:06:19,840
around very long. But that doesn't
mean you're not perceiving feedback from the future.

887
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:25,679
And I'm convinced, having seen all
these RV sessions thousands now since nineteen

888
01:06:25,719 --> 01:06:30,440
ninety six, we're getting some feedback
from the future and you're seeing that feedback

889
01:06:30,519 --> 01:06:35,639
picture little glimpses of it ahead of
time. And this has been proven with

890
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:42,360
ARV. This system is sign should
predict binary events, coin tosses, or

891
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,679
you know, financial markets, some
things that are up and down. People

892
01:06:45,719 --> 01:06:49,280
have done experiments over a decade or
even a couple of months and have made

893
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:55,559
good money, showing us they could
get sixty percent accurate predictions of just an

894
01:06:55,639 --> 01:06:59,360
up or down price event. Yeah, and there's no way you're going to

895
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,760
do that over five fie thousand trials
and hit sixty five percent accuracy if you're

896
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,199
not getting feedback from the future.
A guy named Greg Kaladjiuzik from Canada did

897
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,880
this by himself as an experiment.
He had a better paying job, but

898
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,760
he just wanted to do this to
see. He made one hundred and fifty

899
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:16,159
thousand or something like that over thirteen
years. Just it's not a lot over

900
01:07:16,239 --> 01:07:18,400
thirteen years if you think about it. But he was able to show that

901
01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:23,480
he got sixty five percent accurate predictions
of something like S and P five hundred

902
01:07:24,199 --> 01:07:27,679
a week ahead of time. So
that's proof positive we're getting this feedback.

903
01:07:27,719 --> 01:07:30,199
So what we do in our V
is trained people to pay attention to that.

904
01:07:31,239 --> 01:07:38,000
It's not what your brain usually does. It's usually pushing that information away.

905
01:07:38,079 --> 01:07:40,559
But Mac, I think you know, since you worked around musicians,

906
01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:44,400
I think good musicians are paying attention
to this. In a band with the

907
01:07:44,519 --> 01:07:46,679
notes, it kind of feels something's
coming a certain chord change, and then

908
01:07:46,719 --> 01:07:49,960
they're grooving with it. I asked
Ingo once, what makes a good rvier?

909
01:07:50,239 --> 01:07:54,920
He said, musicians artists already kind
of paid attention to that right brain

910
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:59,760
signal. So yes, there's something
more going on than this linear time reality

911
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,800
that we feel like we're maybe even
in prison by We're getting more than that

912
01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:08,239
linear right sequence. You know you're
perceiving it. I think those were already

913
01:08:08,239 --> 01:08:11,840
shows when you when you you're right
about musicians, there is some kind of

914
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,920
a definitely like an unwritten language,
not even a spoken language when you see

915
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,119
them playing, you know, and
they could be the great jazz Treda,

916
01:08:18,199 --> 01:08:23,520
well just some garage band. You
know, you're you're basically conducting yourselves,

917
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,079
you know, and you've got to
be a little bit ahead of it,

918
01:08:26,239 --> 01:08:30,760
you know. Uh, that much
I can see. But musicians are always

919
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,720
the only kind of dopey, you
know what I mean. I hate to

920
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:34,760
say it, and I know a
lot of them, but you know,

921
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:40,079
they're not in time usually dopey because
they're brilliant. Well yeah, there's a

922
01:08:40,119 --> 01:08:43,880
whole lot of things they don't pay
attention to, yep, like money and

923
01:08:44,039 --> 01:08:48,840
time and some of those things that
people pay attention to is noise, right,

924
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:54,039
And you don't think it's noise,
but it is and clouds the perspective,

925
01:08:54,079 --> 01:08:57,359
and it clouds of creativity. Yeah
yeah, and then probably clouds the

926
01:08:57,399 --> 01:09:02,600
ability to remote view. Yeah yeah, I just try to remote view what

927
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,520
Keith Richards is doing in any given
moment. So wow, you might not

928
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:11,479
want to know, basically, I
don't want to know. He might not

929
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:15,720
have his tiasa. He's in his
garden. He says he's planting peaches or

930
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,960
something. That's what that's what he's
doing. He's not working on a new

931
01:09:20,039 --> 01:09:23,319
ref. The ref's just come to
him. You don't have to work on

932
01:09:23,399 --> 01:09:26,560
it, he just comes to him. Just try and figure out what's the

933
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:30,119
guy doing right now. Let's see, it's six o'clock in the afternoon's sleep

934
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,119
when you think he's doing no,
unless he's probably all pottying and some nk.

935
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:38,399
Okay, he's probably living. That's
one guy, you know. Someone

936
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,000
said to him. I've said it
before. They said, now you've been

937
01:09:41,079 --> 01:09:44,479
in rock and roll, you know, sixty years. Now, you know

938
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:45,520
what a journey it must have been
in a tough life. He goes,

939
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:49,000
tough life. I've been a rotchstat
since I'm in nineteen. I've had everything

940
01:09:49,119 --> 01:09:53,319
given to me. You know,
look at where I live, and you

941
01:09:53,399 --> 01:09:56,079
know what I've done. You know, so if you make it, it's

942
01:09:56,159 --> 01:10:00,760
not a stroke anyway. I actually
I have an interesting a story since we're

943
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,920
talking about musical Oh yeah, So
I was told this because I spent a

944
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:08,520
lot of time there investigating crop circles. It actually came out of remote viewing.

945
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,359
We had a target like a crop
circle, and I just got curious

946
01:10:11,359 --> 01:10:14,640
and went over there the next summer, and I was fascinated by the weird

947
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,760
things that happened and for real watches
stopping in, batteries failing and cameras going

948
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:23,159
on. It was really cool,
so sort of non ordinary electromagnetic fields.

949
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:28,239
So we used to go down to
Salisbury to visit Salisbury Cathedral, the oldest,

950
01:10:28,279 --> 01:10:32,840
biggest cathedral in Europe really I think
still to I think, yeah,

951
01:10:33,399 --> 01:10:39,760
biggest or oldest or one of those
two huge. And someone told me this

952
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:44,079
story that Madonna had lived not too
far away from Salisbury, somewhere in that

953
01:10:44,159 --> 01:10:48,159
area. She's the only person in
British history to have a right of way

954
01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:53,960
abolished by her house. There were
these when you go to the UK,

955
01:10:54,159 --> 01:11:00,000
there are these public paths that reced
modern development. There are thousands of years

956
01:11:00,199 --> 01:11:04,439
old. Yeah, and the laws
says they have right of way over private

957
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:09,640
property. So you have these maps
and they're these beautiful passing They go right

958
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,520
through like people's homes, the yards, and they go through villages and no

959
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,319
one can tell you to leave its
public right of way. It's kind we

960
01:11:15,359 --> 01:11:19,159
don't have it in the US.
It's really kind of cool. They precede

961
01:11:19,279 --> 01:11:25,279
modern development. They're from the Roman
Empire or something like this, maybe even

962
01:11:25,359 --> 01:11:30,359
Celtic, so they so apparently the
story was there were these paparazzi taking pictures

963
01:11:30,399 --> 01:11:32,239
of Madonna on one of these public
right of ways right near her home,

964
01:11:32,319 --> 01:11:36,319
and it was really annoying to her. Okay, I'm told I can't prove

965
01:11:36,359 --> 01:11:40,000
that. I was told it's true. And she went to a love court,

966
01:11:40,159 --> 01:11:44,840
the Salisbury area court and had it
abolished, the right of way turned

967
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,359
into her private property. And I
was told she's the only person in British

968
01:11:47,399 --> 01:11:49,920
history who was able to do that. See at some point though, and

969
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:54,600
this is really gets me about celebrities, okay, and the bigger the the

970
01:11:55,279 --> 01:11:59,119
up they are. I'm sorry,
okay, why can't someone sit here down

971
01:11:59,199 --> 01:12:02,399
and go listen. That might be
a good idea, okay, But the

972
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:08,159
fallout we will get from this is
going to outweigh a bunch of you know,

973
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:12,760
knuckles out there with cameras, you
know, move and you know what

974
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,960
I mean, if if you have
the you know, they don't understand it.

975
01:12:15,079 --> 01:12:18,760
They don't understand, they don't understand, like the public ramification. But

976
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:23,439
that being said, she's still around. I don't like her. I don't

977
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,760
think she's a nice person, you
know, But to stay in the bus

978
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:30,720
as long as she has. You're
gotta get something, you know, something's

979
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:34,039
going for you. Maybe she has
irvy. Go ahead. Did you see

980
01:12:34,159 --> 01:12:39,920
she got injured a week ago on
stage? Really she dancer dropped her,

981
01:12:40,199 --> 01:12:43,000
dropped her. Yeah, yeah,
one of the day. I haven't heard

982
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,640
another thing. There was a clip
on the TV news one night, hmmm

983
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:51,399
that he dropped her and she was
injured. Really, never heard another word.

984
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:55,399
Maybe she paid someone off, that's
probably drunk. Keep it quiet.

985
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,840
But yeah, she's out on tour. Yeah, yeah, out on talk,

986
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,960
still doing it. So some reason
she looks terrible. She had terrible,

987
01:13:02,159 --> 01:13:08,600
terrible, classic surgery, and I
don't know about the longevity of it.

988
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:11,760
Is something. Hey, listen,
you're gonna he Simmy want to hang

989
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,760
around with us for a while.
Yeah, I can't. I can give

990
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,239
you another forty five minutes. That's
all we need. You know who Admiral

991
01:13:17,279 --> 01:13:24,159
Bird was not Larry Bird, Admiral
Birrd. Okay, before we go and

992
01:13:24,239 --> 01:13:28,840
break, we talked to sim about
before the show about who he looked like,

993
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,039
if he resembled it. Now,
yes, go ahead, Sime,

994
01:13:31,159 --> 01:13:34,399
And we do this the most of
our guests. We try to look at

995
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:39,600
them and try to say who they
resemble. Yes, I just thought about

996
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:44,079
it. You look. You remind
me anyways of David Carradine, one of

997
01:13:44,119 --> 01:13:47,439
the Carodeine brothers. Oh yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah he

998
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,199
does. You know what happened to
him? Right? Is that another show?

999
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:56,880
Yeah? How he died David Charady, it's another show, No otto

1000
01:13:57,159 --> 01:14:00,359
fixia. He died in the closet, in the but a belt around him.

1001
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:05,079
It was a hot day anyway.
Oh, sorry I brought it up.

1002
01:14:05,159 --> 01:14:09,119
That's okay. You know, I
thought you were going to say Jeff

1003
01:14:09,159 --> 01:14:14,880
Goldblum, But that's Jeff Global.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Jeff.

1004
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,239
He looks another actor, another actor. I get confused. I see

1005
01:14:18,319 --> 01:14:26,880
a handsomer version, a very much
more handsome version than Steve Bussemi okay,

1006
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,199
there is a compliment in there somewhere, and he's not you know, Brad

1007
01:14:30,279 --> 01:14:34,560
Pett. Anyway, listen, thank
you, Susan, thank you very much.

1008
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:40,279
So but talking to Yeah, he's
good. He's a good guy.

1009
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,279
And he was the first guy at
nine to eleven. You know, he

1010
01:14:43,359 --> 01:14:45,239
was a volunteer fireman. He was
like at nine to eleven, that guy?

1011
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,319
Am I talking about the right guy? He was in Fargo, right,

1012
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,960
he was in the sopranos. Yeah, yeah, he's an interesting Yeah,

1013
01:14:51,039 --> 01:14:55,000
that guy has a life outside of
you know, being an actor,

1014
01:14:55,279 --> 01:14:59,800
being adope actor anyway, talking about
a dopey actors. So so listen,

1015
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,199
So Sidney, I'm in the movie. Yes, please tell us. Okay,

1016
01:15:03,279 --> 01:15:05,720
we're radio show. But what are
we in a break? Now?

1017
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,399
Are we going to talk about it? No, we're talking a little bit.

1018
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:13,199
Right. Here's the deal, guys, I teach remote viewing in Boulder.

1019
01:15:13,319 --> 01:15:15,439
I've had a lot of students from
Colorado. Twenty years ago they started

1020
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:20,000
talking about Bigfoot. It isn't something
I had encountered. I didn't even believe

1021
01:15:20,159 --> 01:15:23,960
really, it was something that mattered
very much, just as a very rare

1022
01:15:24,359 --> 01:15:29,520
gorilla or ape. Why was I
wrong? I did an investigation and there

1023
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,319
are a lot of people who have
seen these creatures, and I recently did

1024
01:15:31,359 --> 01:15:36,239
a book about it called Dark Matter
Monsters, because people got the same effects

1025
01:15:36,279 --> 01:15:40,560
we've saw around crop circles, batteries, cameras. You're not going to get

1026
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:45,079
that from an escape gorilla. It's
got to be some other creature that's interdimensional,

1027
01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:47,479
like we're talking about with RV,
because no one ever finds them when

1028
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,720
they have those encounters. They don't
want to go back in the woods.

1029
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:54,520
And I've listened to hundreds and red, hundreds and thousands of encounters and talked

1030
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:59,560
to people. I've been to five
Bigfoot conferences in the Northwest since the last

1031
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,640
minut go ahead in twenty three.
I talked to tons of people, including

1032
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:08,840
a Native American whose grandfather traded with
Bigfoot from the Spokane Tribe as recently it's

1033
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:12,840
nineteen thirteen salmon from a disinal orb
like. They saw them as a type

1034
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,680
of what would they get, what
would the what would the Bigfoot give them?

1035
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:20,319
Stock tips, rbs, okay,
mission go ahead. And I've talked

1036
01:16:20,319 --> 01:16:25,479
to people that have seen them go
invisible, you name it. It's real.

1037
01:16:26,039 --> 01:16:29,319
It's not well understood, and it's
certainly not talked about. Well.

1038
01:16:29,359 --> 01:16:32,439
The people that were right creating this
movie, A Flash of Beauty Paranormal Bigfoot,

1039
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:38,880
decided to put me in their film. They approached you, go ahead,

1040
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:43,279
They approached you to star in the
film. Correct. Well, I

1041
01:16:43,359 --> 01:16:45,079
didn't know that I was going to
have such a lead role. But they

1042
01:16:45,359 --> 01:16:54,840
liked my perspective, which is that
essentially crop circles did all sorts of weird

1043
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,399
damage to our cameras and batteries and
equipment, so it must be a non

1044
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:03,319
ordinary electromagnetic field something or akin to
what you see at a rock concert or

1045
01:17:03,359 --> 01:17:06,800
something when everyone's really grooving and the
vibes going and it's like reinforcing it.

1046
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:10,720
It's like this reinforcing sound wave,
and you know, if you've been in

1047
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:15,319
a concert where that's happening, there's
a feeling there. I felt that Bigfoot

1048
01:17:15,399 --> 01:17:19,239
must be taking advantage of that type
of sound frequency or cavitation or something and

1049
01:17:19,319 --> 01:17:26,680
creating non ordinary electromagnetic effects like the
crop circles. And I wrote this book,

1050
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,239
which has by the way, been
at the top of the charts for

1051
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:34,560
over eighteen months in the electromagnetic theory
category on Amazon for over a year and

1052
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,560
a half, it's sometimes it is
number one, even like last week.

1053
01:17:39,039 --> 01:17:43,159
People are kind of digging this sort
of electromagnetic because people get around Bigfoot and

1054
01:17:43,279 --> 01:17:45,960
there they can't start the car there. I've talked to it and says the

1055
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,760
batteries drained, and they're kind of
where have I seen this before? I

1056
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,479
have seen this before. It was
in the UK and those crop circles.

1057
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:59,800
So I figured out that there must
be some sort of energetic like fracktal electromagnetics,

1058
01:18:00,279 --> 01:18:05,079
kind of extension of Maxwelly and electromagnetics. And the producers of this film

1059
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:09,680
A Flash of Beauty Paranormal Bigfoot.
By the way, it's a sequel.

1060
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:13,239
Their first film was Bigfoot Reveals Flashy
Beauty. These are both on Amazon Flashermuty

1061
01:18:13,279 --> 01:18:15,840
Bigfoot Reveal and then. But in
talking to those witnesses in the first film,

1062
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:19,000
they didn't know about this. They
said about weird things happened when I

1063
01:18:19,079 --> 01:18:24,439
was around the creature. I had
a loss of time. Yes, you

1064
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:29,960
know, my datteries drained. I
had this weird feeling premonitions before it happened

1065
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:36,039
a couple hours. In visibility orbs, the same types of orbs I've seen

1066
01:18:36,079 --> 01:18:42,000
around crop circles people see around Bigfoot
and these other types of we call them

1067
01:18:42,039 --> 01:18:45,720
cryptids. You probably have them in
Massachusetts. They're in every state. Now

1068
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:49,680
Here's the thing about this. People
do not talk about their encounters very much.

1069
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:54,840
They are scared of being criticized,
ostracized by neighbors or employers, or

1070
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,760
ridiculed. They're seeing these creatures,
and once you start these people come to

1071
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,039
the conferences. I've talked to them, they we'll talk to you. It

1072
01:19:01,119 --> 01:19:04,039
may not want you to put them
in a book. Yes, they want

1073
01:19:04,079 --> 01:19:08,279
to tell their story. And I
think a lot of people have encountered this,

1074
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:12,359
just like UFOs. I think there's
types of creatures and animals out there

1075
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:15,760
that we've never talked about. We
don't even have names for them, and

1076
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:17,000
you know, when people see them
there, it can be pretty scary.

1077
01:19:17,239 --> 01:19:20,760
I agree, there's things out there
that you know, haven't been recoorded,

1078
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,720
and so on and so forth.
Let me ask you this though, Let

1079
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:27,960
me ask us about the movie.
Okay, and now I'm not probably not

1080
01:19:28,079 --> 01:19:30,119
the first person answers. Did you
keep your clothes on? Was it tasteful?

1081
01:19:32,199 --> 01:19:34,920
Yeah? No, no, it's
X rated. Guys, you got

1082
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:43,920
it. Okay. We filmed this
right at WSU in front of the library,

1083
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:45,640
and this was the cool thing.
There was a guy named Grover Krantz

1084
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,840
who was one of the first academics
ever to study Bigfoot in the eighties.

1085
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:55,279
Yes, yes, he thought it
was a relic ape of some sort that

1086
01:19:55,359 --> 01:19:58,800
I crossed the bearing straight, and
he that maybe he just has a side

1087
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:00,720
thought. Maybe you can't to pith
is Blackie. He was one floor up

1088
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:04,600
for me in sociology, and friends
of mine knew him, and I wasn't

1089
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:09,800
at least bit interested at the time
in those topics, so I probably could

1090
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,000
have met him and gone over to
hung out with him. He was the

1091
01:20:12,039 --> 01:20:15,279
big even so for someone like him
just in anthropology to say that this was

1092
01:20:15,399 --> 01:20:21,439
real interesting, it was a big
step even just to argue it's an undiscovered

1093
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:27,800
primate. But I don't think it's
an undiscovered primate. No time you talk

1094
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,560
to these witnesses, they describe it
is very close to human but not quite

1095
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:41,760
our normal inabilities, ability to shape
shift and sort of wink around your peripheral

1096
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:45,920
vision like blinking, and it's really
strange. People have driven through where they've

1097
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,600
been. They said it was like
going through like turbulence in an airplane.

1098
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:56,880
They I know this sounds people listen
really yet they can literally disappear and go

1099
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,800
into I don't know, another dimension. I haven't gone with them. I

1100
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:04,720
don't know what it is, but
this is real people, And I guess

1101
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:10,159
it's not surprising to listeners of this
show that it's not just UFOs or something

1102
01:21:10,199 --> 01:21:14,600
from out there that's visiting that's strange. There are things here on the planet.

1103
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,640
Maybe they've been here longer than we
have. That are not very visible

1104
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,960
most of the time, and occasionally
people out in the woods or even the

1105
01:21:21,039 --> 01:21:28,439
deserts encounter them. I've talked to
witnesses. The orbs the glowing eyes to

1106
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:35,680
turn on red, green, yellow. They illuminate light like an infrared illuminator

1107
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:42,359
on a night vision or something.
They're really interesting and very elusive creatures.

1108
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:46,840
But they exist because a lot of
people. People report the telepathic mind speak

1109
01:21:47,079 --> 01:21:50,479
before and this is in the parent
of the new movie Paranormal Bigfoot. Yes,

1110
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:57,479
they report telepathic mind speak telling them
to put their gun away. You

1111
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,439
have a gun. They get interrogated
while you have a gun to be you

1112
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:03,119
know, these creatures are out there
with their other creature members families. They

1113
01:22:03,159 --> 01:22:09,520
don't really want violence. Yeah,
and they can talk to you in your

1114
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,199
home to ask you. People have
said they tried to get me to come

1115
01:22:12,239 --> 01:22:15,880
outside. Sometimes people do go outside
and they hear this sort of it's close

1116
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:21,039
to our speech, but it's top
I'm in a radio station here all by

1117
01:22:21,159 --> 01:22:29,000
myself, all right, a haunted
radio station. Okay, so I appreciate

1118
01:22:29,039 --> 01:22:30,600
what you're saying. I really do. Now listen to the show when I

1119
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:32,840
go home. Thank you, sim
But you're gonna hang with us, right.

1120
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:36,840
What's the name of the movie again, Paranormal Bigfoot, A flash of

1121
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:41,960
Beauty Paranormal Bigfoot. It's on Vimeo
and Amazon. It's one of the top

1122
01:22:42,079 --> 01:22:45,000
rank documentaries on Amazon. Believe me, I'm not just saying because I'm in

1123
01:22:45,079 --> 01:22:47,880
it. Yes, there are some
witnesses in there that are gonna blow your

1124
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,520
mind. Yes, these aren't people
I believe in this stuff, but they

1125
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:55,840
saw it, They saw the invisibility. There are some witnesses that literally saw

1126
01:22:56,199 --> 01:23:00,680
these creatures turn into orbs in front
of them. Couldn't believe what they'd seen.

1127
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:02,840
But there were a couple and they
also the same thing. Wow,

1128
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:08,800
it's real on network. Oh tod
this in New York, but sorry,

1129
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,840
it's real. Then he teaches a
lot of stuff. I believe you,

1130
01:23:12,079 --> 01:23:15,159
right, but you learned a lot
of other stuff that turns out to be

1131
01:23:15,279 --> 01:23:17,079
valuable. Talk well valuable. Why
don't we do this, Why don't we

1132
01:23:17,119 --> 01:23:21,399
take a commercial breakdown and really calm
down and get a breath of fresh air

1133
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:26,000
and maybe something you sip on,
and then we'll be back. You're listening

1134
01:23:26,039 --> 01:23:30,800
to mcnloy's Militarysha'll show here on the
Distant Thunder Radio Network. Please stay tuned.

1135
01:23:31,239 --> 01:23:34,720
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01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:40,159
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1142
01:24:14,279 --> 01:24:34,119
hm hm hm hm. Welcome back
and went sorry I tried hitting my mute

1143
01:24:34,199 --> 01:24:43,239
so fast that didn't Wow. Is
that the guy who was just talking about

1144
01:24:43,319 --> 01:24:47,079
bad timing for ten seconds before?
There? We go to ten to ten

1145
01:24:47,159 --> 01:24:50,359
to ten, Here we go to
ten five seconds. Here we go,

1146
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,760
hang on, hang on, hang
on, hang on. Here we go,

1147
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:58,960
Here we go, Here we go, Here we go. Welcome back

1148
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,319
and went to Macimoni's mill track saw
show here in the Distant Thunder Radio Network.

1149
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:03,479
This is Mac. I'm ronning.
Wow, what a show we have

1150
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:09,119
for you tonight. Very quickly,
let me introduce you to you the indicted

1151
01:25:09,199 --> 01:25:13,640
soon to be indicted co conspiracies Girls
one one and see a JJ cross the

1152
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:15,640
Potto. Well Mac, everybody,
welcome back to the show. It's been

1153
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,800
a good one, very interesting.
Yeah. Okay, Well if you're saying

1154
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,520
good doctor in the house, he's
pretty sharp. We need one yes.

1155
01:25:23,319 --> 01:25:27,960
Also with us is uh switch played
Steve Ward Switchy, a nationally correspondent on

1156
01:25:28,119 --> 01:25:31,279
Western Ginny. How you doing?
I am beyond wonderful? Are you enjoying

1157
01:25:31,319 --> 01:25:36,359
yourself tonight? I am beside myself, beside yourself? And uh being wonderful?

1158
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:41,760
Interesting? Also with us as security
chief Willie Club, who is one

1159
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,119
or the other? Not both?
I'm going to guys, Billy, how

1160
01:25:44,199 --> 01:25:46,319
you doing? You know? Mac? I'm doing great? Hi Mac?

1161
01:25:46,399 --> 01:25:50,279
Hi? Everyone. I agree,
it's a very interesting show to I had

1162
01:25:50,279 --> 01:25:55,960
a lot of different directions that we're
going and makes us think a lot,

1163
01:25:56,319 --> 01:25:59,880
so we didn't want to do that
that sound intentional, but listen, we're

1164
01:26:00,119 --> 01:26:03,760
Were there any any chuckles at all
in the top eleven reasons why Club won't

1165
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,399
be joining the Patriots at all?
Does anything stick out in your mind?

1166
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:13,439
Nothing at all? I just wow, I think you need some new writers.

1167
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,079
Flank. Okay, well, you
know me, I'm just biased against

1168
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:20,000
top ten ever since Johnny cass And
you know, no one's been able to

1169
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:26,560
that's come off with a top ten
like David David. That's okay, No,

1170
01:26:27,079 --> 01:26:30,880
didn't Johny Casson do it first?
But David. Anyways, Yes,

1171
01:26:32,119 --> 01:26:36,920
Karnak, I know you. I
know Mac that you you probably take it

1172
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,600
personal, but you know I try
to be honest. You asked me a

1173
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,760
question, and I don't want a
candy coat anything. I know. I

1174
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,079
don't ever do that. Yes,
don't know. Last thing we needed something

1175
01:26:47,199 --> 01:26:59,920
candy coat, especially and with switches
Eminem sugar overloads. Speaking about Eminem,

1176
01:27:00,079 --> 01:27:02,439
I don't know why i'd say that. Super fan Susan k is with us.

1177
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:08,560
Susan, now were you? Hey, I'm doing great. I'm just

1178
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,279
we're good, happy to be here, having a great time. Thanks,

1179
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:14,840
living the dream. Okay, Wow, now you've done this, You've done

1180
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,640
this more than a few times.
It's gonna be really kind of nutty right

1181
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:23,880
when you think about it. Not
even a great way. Yeah, okay,

1182
01:27:24,079 --> 01:27:27,760
well that's what Lois said to me
the other day. It turns out,

1183
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:31,680
look, we also have a special
guess pulling out in a great way.

1184
01:27:33,119 --> 01:27:36,199
Doctor Simeon Hine is with us,
and we're gonna clap him on only

1185
01:27:36,319 --> 01:27:42,640
because he has a pH d.
KC. How long did it take you?

1186
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,239
How long to take you to you
know, once you went into college?

1187
01:27:45,279 --> 01:27:48,279
On's at about six seven years anyway, right you got a PhD?

1188
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:55,840
I might be she was seven seven? Yeah? Uh seven including masters?

1189
01:27:56,279 --> 01:27:59,960
Yes, right. I had a
girlfriend who used to call it posthold digger.

1190
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:03,560
I shug a lot of postholes.
Yeah yeah, yeah, I went

1191
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:12,760
the rural property not far from w
s U So post all diggers. But

1192
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,159
it takes a lot of time and
a lot of effort, a lot of

1193
01:28:15,239 --> 01:28:18,640
writing, a lot of studying,
taking tests because you got to do something.

1194
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:25,520
I mean, it's uh, everyone
chooses a path in life, and

1195
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:29,960
you know, it just seems like
I just came from a background, you

1196
01:28:30,079 --> 01:28:34,399
know, where education was important.
Yes, yeah, sure me too.

1197
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:38,640
Get on the bus in the morning, get off at three, you're cool.

1198
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:44,159
That's the education process in box.
But but I'll say this though,

1199
01:28:45,279 --> 01:28:48,039
I went as far as masters as
you know. One one I went to

1200
01:28:48,119 --> 01:28:54,880
film school and I got my master's
degree in film school. Now, so

1201
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:58,319
I go there for three years,
three years working for the masters, right,

1202
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:00,319
and it's great. I mean for
two years I did nothing but watch

1203
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:03,920
movies, man, I mean lots
and lots of movies. It's super.

1204
01:29:05,039 --> 01:29:08,560
At the end, the last day
I'm there, I go down to get

1205
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,920
signed out, and they made you
pay twenty five bucks. You have exit

1206
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:15,159
fee, one of these things.
So I'm glad to pay them. This

1207
01:29:15,279 --> 01:29:18,439
lit old lady behind the desk says, and I filled out a form all

1208
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:23,960
of subjetitutes took. She goes,
you can't get a master's degree in filmmaking.

1209
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:28,600
I go, why, says you
didn't take a language. I said,

1210
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:31,119
don't say anything to me about taking
a freaking language. You know.

1211
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:34,600
No, sorry, we can't give
it to you. And so I'm saying

1212
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:36,640
there saying, you're gonna be kidding
me. So I says, what do

1213
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:41,159
you got? What kind of degree
do you have that doesn't take languages?

1214
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:44,119
So just because the master's a speech
and I went, I'll take it.

1215
01:29:45,399 --> 01:29:48,119
So I do have a degree from
film school, but it's the degree in

1216
01:29:48,279 --> 01:29:53,760
speech. If you can lose that
anyway, Yeah, I killed for a

1217
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:59,399
minute. That's cool. So anyway, so sim hats off to you for

1218
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:01,479
becoming a doctor. Do people ever
come up to you and ask you for

1219
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:08,239
painkillers and you know, medicinal pot
and stuff like that. No, No,

1220
01:30:08,359 --> 01:30:11,760
it's doctor of philosophy the okay,
well you know that's details man,

1221
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:14,239
all right, So anyway, look
at thanks for joining us that I really

1222
01:30:14,279 --> 01:30:15,680
appreciate it. No, no,
and now I'm going around calling myself doctor.

1223
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,199
That's kind of yeah, that is
I agree with you by yourself that

1224
01:30:18,279 --> 01:30:23,920
anyway, it's really a title that
people are supposed to They can introduce you

1225
01:30:24,079 --> 01:30:26,720
that way. You never call yourself. If you ever hear on someone calling

1226
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:30,119
themself doctor so and so, I
mean they're full of bs. Yes the

1227
01:30:30,159 --> 01:30:34,119
movie yourself, not unless you're a
medical doctor. And I'm talking to anyone

1228
01:30:34,199 --> 01:30:36,800
with a PhD. If they go
around calling themselves doctor so and so,

1229
01:30:38,319 --> 01:30:40,840
just come on, give me a
break. That's for an introduction, like

1230
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:44,880
when I'm on a show and you
introduce me that way just as a way

1231
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:46,640
of you know, qualifying me to
be a guest on your show. But

1232
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:50,600
you know it's not You're not allowed
to call yourself a doctor unless you're a

1233
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:55,479
real medical medical doctor. I agree
with you. I never, I never,

1234
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:59,319
I don't. I almost get into
the movie eyes wide shut because,

1235
01:31:00,199 --> 01:31:04,239
as we know, forty two times
in that awful movie, Tom Cruise says

1236
01:31:04,359 --> 01:31:09,800
I'm a doctor because no one in
the whole freaking universe believe this guy would

1237
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:13,920
be a doctor, all right,
forty two times he says it. But

1238
01:31:14,079 --> 01:31:15,840
you're right, if you're a medical
doctor, it makes a difference. It

1239
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,680
does make a difference. There's no
doubt about it. You know. Yeah,

1240
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:21,000
people might need to call you on
an airplane, right yeah, yeah,

1241
01:31:21,079 --> 01:31:26,359
yeah, yeah, yeah, I
agree with that anyway. So from

1242
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:29,479
doctors to admirals, how about that
switch. We're gonna put in your bump

1243
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:40,439
right here. And now it's time
for another story from the Lost Animals of

1244
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:47,159
the Paranormal. It's time for Steve
Ward's report from the Fringe Switch. What

1245
01:31:47,199 --> 01:31:51,600
do you have for us tonight?
Well, the Fringe Report tonight is about

1246
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:57,119
this alleged secret diary of Admiral Bird. Can we start up with a book

1247
01:31:57,159 --> 01:32:00,880
called The Hollow Earth by doctor Raymond
Bernard and that came out about nineteen sixty

1248
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:06,680
four. Now his real name was
Walter Satmeister, and he wrote this book

1249
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:12,239
about the Earth being hollow and flying
saucers coming in and out of the Earth.

1250
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:16,560
It turns out that some of this
information he actually got from ray polp

1251
01:32:17,159 --> 01:32:23,279
Rape Palmer, the editor of Amazing
Stories, the one that promoted the Shaver

1252
01:32:23,399 --> 01:32:28,840
mystery and the Moory Island incident.
Palmer really got on this hollow earthkick and

1253
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:35,720
that the poles hot were holes in
the North and South Pole and wrote,

1254
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:41,600
they wrote all kinds of stuff about
attributed to Admiral Bird, things he's supposed

1255
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:45,960
to have said. Now this book
Raymond Bernard, the blurb goes the underground

1256
01:32:45,039 --> 01:32:50,880
world of Superman discovered by Admiral Bird
under the North Pole and kept secret by

1257
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:56,239
the US government. Well, it
turns out that the source of some of

1258
01:32:56,319 --> 01:33:02,960
these things that are attributed to Admiral
b come from another author, Amadeo gian

1259
01:33:03,079 --> 01:33:08,399
Ninny, who wrote a book called
Beyond the Poles. And this is uh.

1260
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:12,159
He was not a flat earther,
He was not a hollow earther.

1261
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:16,520
A little more about that later.
His his views were just really really bizarre.

1262
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:20,600
But anyway, that seems to be
where some of these uh uh uh

1263
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:27,960
things that Adam Bird is supposed to
have said about journeying beyond the Pole and

1264
01:33:28,279 --> 01:33:33,000
uh actually seeing mountains and lakes and
spotting a living mammoth and all that stuff

1265
01:33:33,359 --> 01:33:39,520
seems to maybe have been generated by
by this person. Now, apparently Bird

1266
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:43,479
did say something like, uh,
I'd like to see that land beyond the

1267
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:46,159
pole. The area beyond the pole
is the center of the great unknown.

1268
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,840
Well, a lot of it has
been attributed to that. That could be

1269
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:57,279
just something very poetic. Now,
the the hollow Earth idea uh is uh?

1270
01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:02,199
Now that there were there were actually
uh books written nineteen oh six William

1271
01:34:02,239 --> 01:34:05,680
Reed The Phantom of the Poles.
He believed again in the Hollow Earth,

1272
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:12,159
the crust was so thick and there
was hollow on the inside, and they

1273
01:34:12,239 --> 01:34:15,359
called it the Phantom of the Poles
because there really was no North and South

1274
01:34:15,399 --> 01:34:17,880
pole. There were these huge openings
and if you were on the edge of

1275
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:23,079
this opening, you couldn't even see
the other side. Marshall B. Gardner

1276
01:34:23,119 --> 01:34:28,159
in nineteen thirteen wrote a Journey to
Earth's Interior, or Have the Poles been

1277
01:34:28,199 --> 01:34:31,560
Discovered? And he describes this journey
into this hollow Earth. And these people

1278
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:38,960
really believed that this was the case. Now, the thing is that,

1279
01:34:39,319 --> 01:34:43,479
well, the best way to illustrate
the idea of the hollow Earth is to

1280
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:45,920
talk about Edgar Rice Burroughs. Of
course, he's known for Tarzan and John

1281
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:51,039
Carter of Mars. He had a
lot of different really fun fantasy and science

1282
01:34:51,079 --> 01:34:56,560
fiction series, and one of them
was called Pellucidar And in which David Innes

1283
01:34:56,680 --> 01:35:00,680
and Abner Perry. Abner Perry was
the inventor of the iron mole Prospector,

1284
01:35:00,039 --> 01:35:04,800
and they're supposed to be looking for
minerals and so forth, and they go

1285
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:10,960
into the Earth and something happens where
they can't deflect the nose of the prospector,

1286
01:35:11,239 --> 01:35:14,760
and for some reason they can't turn
it off. Apparently they didn't install

1287
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,079
any circuit breakers in this darn thing. So they think they're going to go

1288
01:35:17,119 --> 01:35:20,760
to the eternal fires in the center
of the core, and they actually come

1289
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:26,840
up on land and what it is
now whether it's egg or Rice Burrows or

1290
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:30,880
these guys that were serious about this. The theory was that the Earth's crust

1291
01:35:31,039 --> 01:35:34,800
was like four hundred to maybe eight
hundred miles thick all the way around,

1292
01:35:35,159 --> 01:35:40,359
so the center of gravity was right
in the center of that. So if

1293
01:35:40,399 --> 01:35:43,560
you were walking on the inside of
the Earth, it would be like walking

1294
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:46,399
in the bottom of a bowl.
And instead of the horizon line disappearing like

1295
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:51,239
a line. They would actually slightly
curve up and then disappear into the haze.

1296
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:56,319
So and Burrows Burrows books are just
there's a lot of fun. I

1297
01:35:56,399 --> 01:36:01,239
mean they get there. There's cave
people, is a cave. Big Babe

1298
01:36:01,399 --> 01:36:04,880
named him the Beautiful, which,
of course David in his Falls for There's

1299
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:10,239
dinosaurs, there's these lizard people which
are really nasty, and it's it's really

1300
01:36:10,319 --> 01:36:15,000
a fun ride. Yes. Uh. Now back to Admiral Burgh Uh the

1301
01:36:15,319 --> 01:36:20,199
uh uh what's that? Yes?
So was he at the time, So

1302
01:36:20,319 --> 01:36:24,800
he was an admiral in the US
Navy, right, Yeah? And was

1303
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:28,880
he an Abril at the time or
were they just calling it? Were they

1304
01:36:29,079 --> 01:36:31,279
calling it? You know? I
believe he was, but I'm not absolutely

1305
01:36:31,319 --> 01:36:34,319
sure. And why did he go
down there in the first place just to

1306
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:40,479
explore stuff? Well, he was
it was the idea of he wanted to

1307
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:44,520
think he wanted to conquer both Poles, the North and South Poleski hadn't been

1308
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,279
done before. And there's even some
controversy, which is another story as to

1309
01:36:47,319 --> 01:36:53,239
whether or not he actually made it
or not. Yeah, but that's that's

1310
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,920
controversy. That's what he was doing
down there. That's what he's doing down

1311
01:36:55,960 --> 01:37:00,119
there. Go ahead place. According
to Jeff Douglas, uh, this this

1312
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:05,399
diary, that this this secret diary
that surfaced. He doesn't know for sure

1313
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:10,600
how long this thing had been in
existence. Some people trace it back to

1314
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:18,800
nineteen seventy Captain Tiwuani wanaka Shush He
was the head of the Society for a

1315
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:25,880
Complete Earth. And okay, that's
just one of the ways that they trace

1316
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:29,600
it back. Now this gian Ninia
again who wrote that the book The Land

1317
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:34,560
Beyond the Poles. He's the one
again that attributed all these things to Admiral

1318
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:41,159
Birds. Now he actually thought that
again, not a hollow Earth or the

1319
01:37:41,239 --> 01:37:45,920
flat Earth, that the Earth extended
and curved up. The stars lay on

1320
01:37:46,039 --> 01:37:55,520
the surface of this vast area which
curved upward and then actually circled over the

1321
01:37:55,600 --> 01:38:00,680
planet. And it's like we were
in the center of this hollow somehow,

1322
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:04,000
this concave universe, I mean,
talk about being out there. Now.

1323
01:38:04,239 --> 01:38:12,079
Douglas says this diary was circulating a
lot longer than Giannini's nineteen fifty nine book.

1324
01:38:12,359 --> 01:38:14,520
He thinks it went way back,
and it's one of these things that

1325
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:18,720
was kind of underground. It was
copied and recopied, and you know,

1326
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:24,720
the actual diary itself when you read
it, it's been reproduced a few times.

1327
01:38:25,399 --> 01:38:30,000
It reads like the worst science fiction
from Amazing Stories of the forties.

1328
01:38:30,359 --> 01:38:34,600
Now Amazing Stories had some good science
fiction and some good authors, but man,

1329
01:38:35,079 --> 01:38:40,920
some of it was author And so
this is supposed to have taken place

1330
01:38:41,279 --> 01:38:45,079
around February nineteenth. This is going
to be a key later on February nineteenth,

1331
01:38:45,159 --> 01:38:48,760
nineteen forty seven. And it starts
out, I must write this diary

1332
01:38:49,119 --> 01:38:56,199
in secrecy and obscurity. There comes
a time when the rationale of men must

1333
01:38:56,279 --> 01:39:02,439
fade into insignificance, and one must
accept the inevitability of the truth. So

1334
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:09,600
it talks about, you know,
radio reception normal and nineteen hundred hours he

1335
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:15,840
starts noticing this yellowish and purplish color. Below ninety nine he sees a mountain

1336
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:19,079
range he's never seen before, and
then a green valley beyond the mountain range,

1337
01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:24,239
and then he can't see the sun, implying that he's gone over the

1338
01:39:24,319 --> 01:39:29,880
lip of this this big hollow opening. And the other thing is the people

1339
01:39:30,279 --> 01:39:33,880
edgarized Burrows to the people that wrote
these books, like James Churchward, they

1340
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:38,920
believed it was some kind of a
central sun, and Burrows kind of made

1341
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:43,199
it believable where it sounded like it
was more like the molten core of the

1342
01:39:43,279 --> 01:39:47,680
Earth suspended in the globe, which
gave off heat and light. So the

1343
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:51,880
theories all gave some kind of a
central sun to the inside of the Earth.

1344
01:39:53,600 --> 01:40:00,720
And at ten thirty he's he says, the temperature is seventy four degrees

1345
01:40:00,279 --> 01:40:04,680
and he sees a large animal and
is shocked. It's a mammoth. It's

1346
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:09,319
a living mammoth walking on the ground. So then all of a sudden,

1347
01:40:09,399 --> 01:40:15,239
at eleven thirty, his aircraft controls
fail to respond. Strange aircraft closing in

1348
01:40:15,399 --> 01:40:19,319
on him, dis shaped with swastikas
on them. A voice breaks through his

1349
01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:24,600
radio and with a German accent,
and he says, welcome, admiral.

1350
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:28,319
We will land you in seven minutes. So these guys have some kind of

1351
01:40:28,399 --> 01:40:34,359
a tractor beam or something way before
star trek, and they land his ship

1352
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:41,199
and it lands softly, and then
they are He and his navigator are taken

1353
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:46,239
cordially by these tall, blonde haired
dudes on a flying platform with no wheels,

1354
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:50,279
And you see what I mean about
bad amazing story science fiction. They

1355
01:40:50,359 --> 01:40:55,119
go to a crystal city. Bird
has taken to a building down an elevator

1356
01:40:55,640 --> 01:41:00,800
to an audience with the Master.
The Master has these delicate features, the

1357
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:03,840
etchings of years are on his face, and he's one of these wise deal

1358
01:41:04,079 --> 01:41:09,479
And of course, what do you
think that he tells Admiral Bird. It

1359
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:14,439
sounds very much like some of the
early contact, these stories and the warnings

1360
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:21,439
about using you know, nuclear power
and nuclear weapons, and they that's that's

1361
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:25,199
the whole deal. It says,
you know, you must go back and

1362
01:41:27,239 --> 01:41:33,319
and tell the tell everybody that they
must end this kind of a distance path

1363
01:41:33,359 --> 01:41:38,720
that they're on. And but here's
mac, here's the killer go ahead.

1364
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:44,239
In February nineteen forty seven, Admiral
Bird was on the other side of the

1365
01:41:44,319 --> 01:41:48,920
planet. He was part of something
called Operation high Jump at the South Pole.

1366
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:54,479
Wrong Pole, wrong pole. Well, hey, the details man,

1367
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:58,800
Okay, so this guy got he
got the pole wrong. He was at

1368
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:01,239
the exact opposite end of the year. That's the date. That was the

1369
01:42:01,319 --> 01:42:06,600
date of this alleged diary has always
been that Bird was at the North Pole,

1370
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:10,800
when in fact an Operation high Jump. I guess it's another story.

1371
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:15,319
There are some suggestion that they were
there to seek out the so called a

1372
01:42:15,399 --> 01:42:18,880
supposed Nazi base. Yeah. I
don't know how much truth there is to

1373
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:25,520
that, none, but very interesting
that Admiral Bird was actually on the other

1374
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:28,680
side of the planet. Here's the
thing is, And this gets me because

1375
01:42:29,199 --> 01:42:30,319
you do hear this every once in
a while, not as much as you

1376
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:34,479
used to, but you used to
hear it every once in a while not

1377
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:39,319
too long ago. Where there were
people on the air. They would come

1378
01:42:39,359 --> 01:42:41,760
on, they would try to get
on our show's guests. They wrote books,

1379
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:45,560
made movies and lectures. Seeing that
the Nazis really had all these super

1380
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:48,279
weapons during Worlder two, and they
had you know, UFOs, they had

1381
01:42:48,319 --> 01:42:51,600
flying sauces, flying classes, you
know, shut down A bombers, and

1382
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:56,640
they have a secret base in Antarctoica, and they know these space aliens and

1383
01:42:57,199 --> 01:43:00,279
space aliens were given them help and
so on and so forth. Have to

1384
01:43:00,319 --> 01:43:02,560
do it say, if this is
true, why did they lose the war?

1385
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,319
Okay, if you have you know
what I mean, if you have

1386
01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:11,199
like help from some planet somewhere,
if you have UFOs, if you have

1387
01:43:11,279 --> 01:43:14,840
the anti grab, how do you
lose the war? You know, it's

1388
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:16,840
just as bullshit that people they don't
want to you know, I don't want

1389
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:19,199
to get into history now, but
they don't want to. There are certain

1390
01:43:19,239 --> 01:43:25,000
faction of people who don't want to, you know, understand to absorb the

1391
01:43:25,199 --> 01:43:29,439
obvious, okay, and some things
are just obvious. And it's obvious that

1392
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:33,720
the Nazis didn't have extraterrestrial help during
the world There are two and the last

1393
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:36,960
year of the war they were building
their jet airplane cockpits out of plywood.

1394
01:43:38,039 --> 01:43:42,399
Okay, that's how low in resources
they were. They certainly didn't enough resources

1395
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:45,720
or an anti grav you know,
fleet of anti grav aircraft. But anyway,

1396
01:43:46,239 --> 01:43:48,880
uh, switchy, thank you you. At the end of did I

1397
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:53,560
interrupt you? Yeah, that's it. That was the big finish was that

1398
01:43:54,239 --> 01:43:58,319
the admiral was nowhere to be seen
at the north Wow. Well go ahead,

1399
01:43:58,359 --> 01:44:04,039
please go before he leaves. When
you read about Bird, did he

1400
01:44:04,159 --> 01:44:10,920
ever references do you know in any
of his writings anything about this whole conspiracy

1401
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:15,960
I'd call it with the Nazis and
Antarctica, you know, as mac mentioned,

1402
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:19,800
Is he ever you know because he
lived or what in nineteen fifty seven,

1403
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:25,159
around while after the war, yep, he may well help later,

1404
01:44:25,279 --> 01:44:28,760
but the areas that I was going
over it, there wasn't any mention of

1405
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:31,159
it. He's never mentioned it.
He might have might have later. There

1406
01:44:31,239 --> 01:44:36,960
might be something beyond my knowledge.
But yeah, it's very unlikely that the

1407
01:44:38,039 --> 01:44:42,359
Nazis said any kind of a base
down in Antarctica because even now, to

1408
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:45,000
get to keep the places that are
down there now, to keep them resupplied

1409
01:44:45,039 --> 01:44:49,159
and stuff like that is a massive
fun a kind of logistics effort. You

1410
01:44:49,239 --> 01:44:53,920
know. They couldn't do this after
World War Two, after they just got

1411
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:57,479
their asses kicked all over the place. Okay, And there's nothing too is

1412
01:44:57,560 --> 01:45:01,119
that someone did a study on the
various sub rings that the German Navy had,

1413
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:05,119
and they had mostly U boats,
but they did build kind of lodge

1414
01:45:05,239 --> 01:45:09,039
boats that could go long distances and
a couple of them did like make it

1415
01:45:09,119 --> 01:45:12,319
to Japan and back and stuff like
that. But there's only two or three

1416
01:45:12,319 --> 01:45:15,840
of them they sent them. And
there's no way that any stop could leave

1417
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:19,000
Germany and get the Argentina for instance. Ah, the self pull anyway,

1418
01:45:19,079 --> 01:45:21,000
But thank you Switching, you know
what. I just got to text them

1419
01:45:21,039 --> 01:45:27,439
switch and he said, please clap
for me. Okay, So that's all

1420
01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:30,479
right. I appreciate it. But
what I find so fascinating about it is

1421
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:35,119
all these different ideas over the years
about what's inside the Earth. I remember

1422
01:45:35,199 --> 01:45:42,680
my basic geology one O one Seismic
waves and pulse waves they can send through

1423
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:46,000
the Earth, and they know how
they react to the substances in the Earth,

1424
01:45:46,079 --> 01:45:49,520
and that's how they've determined the Earth's
crust and the mantle and the core

1425
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:55,279
and all that sort of thing.
So it would suggest that the Earth as

1426
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:59,479
cool as pellucid areas and as great
it would be to be hanging around with

1427
01:46:00,279 --> 01:46:06,079
cave babes and dodging dinosaurs and evil
lizard people. Uh. I don't think

1428
01:46:06,119 --> 01:46:12,079
it's hollow. I'll stick I'll stick
with Edgar Rice Burrows though. And in

1429
01:46:12,159 --> 01:46:15,199
the movie Journey to the Center of
the Earth, Jules Verne originally made it,

1430
01:46:15,279 --> 01:46:18,399
but there was a cool movie like
in the late fifties, early sixties

1431
01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:23,800
and eighteen sixtyes, I think was
it really? Pat Boone was in it.

1432
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:28,880
Pat Boone is in it, and
James Mason, James Mason, Arlene

1433
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:31,159
Gall Yeah, Narlen thought beautiful,
wow, wee wow. She was up

1434
01:46:31,199 --> 01:46:35,399
to compound, I know, And
then they had some But it was actually

1435
01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:40,279
a really cool movie other than the
fact that but basically is that they go,

1436
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:42,880
they get there, and they come
back. I mean, that's that's

1437
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:45,960
the adventure. But what they find
down there is almost close to what you're

1438
01:46:45,359 --> 01:46:48,840
talking about. They'd be like an
inno san and the horizon will look different

1439
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:51,159
than that kind of stuff. You
know. Well, in the novel,

1440
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:56,279
they don't make it to the center
of the earth. Something happens where there's

1441
01:46:56,319 --> 01:47:00,560
an obstruction and they set dynamite or
something like the blow it out of the

1442
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:04,680
way, and something happens where they
get burne was was was wild. They

1443
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:09,119
get they're actually going up the chimney
of a volcano. Yeah, in the

1444
01:47:09,199 --> 01:47:13,239
movie there's water there, there's lava
down there, but because of the they

1445
01:47:13,279 --> 01:47:16,199
were close to this this underground ocean, there's water in between the lava and

1446
01:47:16,279 --> 01:47:19,119
the raft that they're on, so
that they're safe. And then they get

1447
01:47:19,279 --> 01:47:23,039
they don't get blown out of the
top of a volcano like in the movie,

1448
01:47:23,039 --> 01:47:26,359
which was crazy. They actually go
through one of the rivulets at the

1449
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:30,199
side, which made it kind of
believable. Yea, So they actually don't

1450
01:47:30,239 --> 01:47:32,560
make it to the center of the
Earth and great, great story though.

1451
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:36,159
Yeah, it's a great storyteller.
They went down, they went down the

1452
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:40,920
volcano in Iceland and they popped out
and out of one in scott Yeah.

1453
01:47:42,119 --> 01:47:46,520
Pretty cool. Yeah, anyway,
I think it's time Switchy to put up

1454
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:51,720
the other time. Okay, of
the train spashing into the station, I

1455
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:58,479
want to thank everybody generally and individually. There it is, okay, doctor

1456
01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:00,640
simeon Hin, thank you very much. You're joining us. We appreciate you.

1457
01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:04,920
Friend of Steve how You're an acquaintance
of Steve Howe, the great guitar

1458
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:09,119
play correct, Huh, I can't
get it. Yeah, And I wanted

1459
01:48:09,159 --> 01:48:11,840
to say that. Uh. The
only thing I know about the Center of

1460
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:15,560
the Earth is Rick Wakeman's album Live
Sad Played Live That was That was a

1461
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:18,800
really good album. Yeah yeah,
Live with some the Orchestra. Yeah yeah,

1462
01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:23,359
yeah, yeah, yeah, really
really well done. Yeah back in

1463
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:26,319
the seventies. Was on there,
and I kept thinking about it when because

1464
01:48:26,319 --> 01:48:29,199
he has all these you know,
it's Jules Verne's story, right, and

1465
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:33,359
Bernard Herman did the incredibly atmospheric soundtrack
for the movie. For the movies,

1466
01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:36,560
Yeah, that was very cool.
I saw Rick Wakeman the other day he

1467
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:42,319
was doing the other day. Yeah, I mean on on YouTube, okay,

1468
01:48:43,279 --> 01:48:47,920
and he told us, he told
us with this kind of band and

1469
01:48:48,159 --> 01:48:51,079
he comes out and you know,
you're just with a cape and stuff.

1470
01:48:51,319 --> 01:48:54,960
I used to thought I think he
was really cool, and he is kind

1471
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:57,920
of cool guy in a way.
But now it looks like he's nine months

1472
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:02,159
pregnant and it's time to get him
to the hospital. It's like, come

1473
01:49:02,239 --> 01:49:04,399
on, someone wrote. He says, maybe she should wear a cape on

1474
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:10,119
back, which but he's always telling
these jokes. You know. He's like

1475
01:49:10,239 --> 01:49:13,560
in England. He has comedy shows
and stuff. And he said, you

1476
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:15,359
know, I got this friend of
mine call me. He says, I'm

1477
01:49:15,399 --> 01:49:17,760
telling you my wife is trying to
kill me. She's trying to come.

1478
01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:20,840
He says, oh, I said, you're crazy. Why would you say

1479
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:24,039
that. What's the evidence? He
goes, I can't tell you right now,

1480
01:49:24,079 --> 01:49:26,600
but you know she's trying to poison
me. She's trying to poison me

1481
01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:28,720
every day, I think. So
he goes, hey, listen, listen,

1482
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:30,800
let me talk to her. So
he says, put her on the

1483
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:32,560
phone. He says, after three
hours I've talking to him. My friend

1484
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:34,880
got back on the phone. I
said to him, take the poison,

1485
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:41,920
not bad, right, and then
they played Starship Troop. So anyway,

1486
01:49:42,399 --> 01:49:45,359
so didn't you have an interview show
or something? Yeah? Yeah, like

1487
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:48,039
yeah, yeah, he had a
show called Grumpy Old Men. It was

1488
01:49:48,079 --> 01:49:51,119
like an interview show. You know
over there. He's well known over there.

1489
01:49:51,239 --> 01:49:54,319
You know, he's known over here. Mostly I was like, you

1490
01:49:54,399 --> 01:49:57,319
have a musician. Anyway, thank
you, sim thanks for joining us.

1491
01:49:57,359 --> 01:50:01,199
We appreciate, really appreciate. What's
the name of the movie in the movie

1492
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:08,960
is Paranormal Bigfoot? I'd say one
more time I stepped on you. What's

1493
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:13,239
the name of the movie again?
Here? It is a Flash of Beauty

1494
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:16,399
Paranormal Bigfoot? Yes, and yours
truly, isn't it? Wow? Talking

1495
01:50:16,399 --> 01:50:21,399
about my ideas for dark matters.
Yes, yes, so it's a lot

1496
01:50:21,439 --> 01:50:24,800
of fun. I think you'll enjoy
it. You just see the preview.

1497
01:50:25,319 --> 01:50:28,439
You'll see what right? Yeah?
Yeah, let's see them invisible. It's

1498
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:30,680
fascinating. Yeah. Where can people
see it? Where can they buy it?

1499
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:32,640
Go on to Amazon and get it, buy it. Yeah, you

1500
01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:36,600
can buy it or watch it on
Amazon or video cool platform soon. But

1501
01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:39,800
those how long did it take you
to film it? How? I mean

1502
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:41,680
you're in there. You have the
star, I mean, did it take

1503
01:50:41,680 --> 01:50:46,079
it? I'm just They just came
out to Pullman, Washington area for a

1504
01:50:46,239 --> 01:50:49,560
day. The film crew is based
in Portland. They came out, we

1505
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:53,640
filmed it and it you know,
they have a lot of other people in

1506
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:57,640
the film too. Yeah, it
was a lot of fun and a very

1507
01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:00,279
open minded bunch. I thought,
it's it's I've seen the movie a bunch

1508
01:51:00,279 --> 01:51:03,760
of times and it's a lot of
fun, very formative, and uh,

1509
01:51:04,119 --> 01:51:06,800
it'll open up your mind about what
we're dealing with out there in the woods.

1510
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:11,239
Are you happy with your performance?
Are you happy with your performance?

1511
01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:20,520
I'd say so, really coherent.
That's good. Helth together grandma. The

1512
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:24,880
grandma was okay, oh that's good. That's what It's fine. I mean,

1513
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:27,159
I just you guys know me.
It's like this. They asked me

1514
01:51:27,279 --> 01:51:30,600
questions and I shared some ideas and
it's great doing it right across from more

1515
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:35,159
Grover Krantz one of the main people
that made the subject real. So yeah,

1516
01:51:35,159 --> 01:51:39,199
it's a lot of fun and I've
enjoyed being part of it. And

1517
01:51:39,319 --> 01:51:43,439
they're working on a new film about
Ron Moorehead and the Sierra Sounds, which

1518
01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:45,399
is old, excellent. I love
that. I love the right now.

1519
01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:48,960
So the next film is Ron Moorehead, And of course you know simeon that

1520
01:51:49,079 --> 01:51:54,640
Ron Morehead started out thinking this was
a a flesh and blood creature and it

1521
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:59,399
captured those amazing sounds and then all
this. I mean they had batteries,

1522
01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:02,079
grain, strange lights in the woods
and so forth. I've been able to

1523
01:52:02,079 --> 01:52:06,960
see him speak and he wrote the
book, Uh what was it, Quantum

1524
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:11,279
Bigfoot? Quantum Bigfoot? Thank you, Yes, and you've got a new

1525
01:52:11,319 --> 01:52:15,079
book coming out too. Yeah,
and see Ron. If any of you

1526
01:52:15,199 --> 01:52:18,039
haven't heard him, just look up
Sierra Sounds. You will hear what sasquatch

1527
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:23,920
sound like when they're talking. Because
I've talked to other people who've been in

1528
01:52:24,039 --> 01:52:27,720
that area and they said they heard
the same sounds in the middle of the

1529
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:30,119
night. The squabbling talk. It's
like a reverse Samurai speech. Is a

1530
01:52:30,199 --> 01:52:35,439
very rapid, becausive type of speech. Yeah, and other people have heard

1531
01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:38,800
it. Ron was able to record
it. And the cool thing was I

1532
01:52:39,079 --> 01:52:43,880
interviewed him on for my YouTube.
Channelists on my YouTube said you never would

1533
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:45,439
see him. They would try to
pick their head out real quick. They

1534
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:50,840
had the microphones in the wooden structure
that they built out there and they could

1535
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:55,960
never see him. You quickly look
nothing there, Yeah nothing, they picked

1536
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:59,119
it up. Yeah, they do
have that supposed capability. So anyway,

1537
01:52:59,359 --> 01:53:00,840
him, thanks you joining us.
Come back on real soon. Okay,

1538
01:53:01,359 --> 01:53:06,000
we appreciate it, and let's see
now the victims. Okay, club,

1539
01:53:06,279 --> 01:53:12,680
I'm gonna shay. Good night to
you. Okay, you know you're talking

1540
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:16,079
to me. Yeah you're talking about
Wow, you're talking to me. I

1541
01:53:16,199 --> 01:53:19,760
welcome up. Yeah, well,
good night and everyone. I enjoyed tonight

1542
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:25,000
show us. Yes, you did
well, and thank you very pleased we

1543
01:53:25,119 --> 01:53:28,000
made that way through it. Thank
you, club. We'll see you very

1544
01:53:28,079 --> 01:53:33,920
soon. If you take you now, faithing changed with the all take you

1545
01:53:34,439 --> 01:53:41,319
if anything, if anything takes,
if anything changes with the pages, let

1546
01:53:41,399 --> 01:53:45,119
us know. Okay, it'll be
the first one I know. Uh Ellen,

1547
01:53:45,239 --> 01:53:51,000
Now though you have foll mechanic to
sleep, time to sleep with the

1548
01:53:51,039 --> 01:53:56,359
bees, sleep with the pee.
Okay, I got an apple pie staring

1549
01:53:56,439 --> 01:53:59,640
me in the face. I'm going
really yeah, oh man, we should

1550
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:01,600
call the even say when not coming, Hey, Dave, when not coming?

1551
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:06,720
We don't need oh wow, yeah, I was looking for those the

1552
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:11,319
other day. The table talp little
apple pies. Yeah you know this is

1553
01:54:11,359 --> 01:54:15,119
bloeberry you want? Yeah blueberry?
Yeah, that's even better. I used

1554
01:54:15,159 --> 01:54:17,760
to love those as a kid.
Uh listen, Susan Kate, thank you

1555
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:21,000
for doing this. Susan, Okay, thanks. It was so nice to

1556
01:54:21,079 --> 01:54:25,439
be here. I just was a
nice surprise. You made my day.

1557
01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:28,239
Love you guys, thanks for having
me. We love you too, Thank

1558
01:54:28,279 --> 01:54:30,640
you very much. Look at look
at look at club rubbing in in with

1559
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:34,319
a duncan come on, look at
them. I'm all excited now making it

1560
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:40,600
dance that show. You know,
it works up quite an appetisee. Yeah,

1561
01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:44,600
I'm in the back room. I
in one of a pistol Pete's Kansas

1562
01:54:44,640 --> 01:54:48,199
Spaghettios. That's how hungry I am. I might actually, but I have

1563
01:54:48,279 --> 01:54:53,520
to be chef. That used to
be my favorite too. Yeah yeah,

1564
01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:59,920
I got to make sure I get
more than the Beeferrone class. Yeah.

1565
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,279
I've been around that corner a many
many times. Thank you very much for

1566
01:55:03,439 --> 01:55:08,199
joining us. Club We push it. Uh, switchy that have already say

1567
01:55:08,199 --> 01:55:11,680
good night to you. No,
but it was my pleasure to be here.

1568
01:55:11,960 --> 01:55:14,920
Okay, all right, let's guess
what kind of a head do we'll

1569
01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:18,960
have next week. Okay, well
the pot reappear. No, it's gonna

1570
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:23,560
be mac. It's going to be
exactly the same, only slightly longer.

1571
01:55:24,119 --> 01:55:28,279
Okay, that's what she's good.
Turn it around. You're going to turn

1572
01:55:28,319 --> 01:55:31,039
it around, is what it is, and that's how it goes. You

1573
01:55:31,159 --> 01:55:33,640
have to kind of road. I
like to rotate your tires in the car.

1574
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:38,279
Yeah, do you rotate it to
dry it? I like to try

1575
01:55:38,319 --> 01:55:41,119
it on your head or do you
take it off and put it on a

1576
01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:45,199
like a head? You know a
little pat of stalls spinning around head.

1577
01:55:45,319 --> 01:55:49,039
That's it. One of those heads, yes, yes, switch ass four

1578
01:55:49,079 --> 01:55:56,920
of them with different remember cow Ryman. Yeah so funny, Yes, like

1579
01:55:57,119 --> 01:56:01,800
five of those stuff from heads,
different wigs in each one for his mood

1580
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:05,319
of the Diabama. That was a
funny, freaking show, Jesus, very

1581
01:56:05,359 --> 01:56:12,800
funny. Also want fun Thanks for
journeying us. We appreciate wanting You're welcome,

1582
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:16,159
pleasure to be here in the chip
is my favorite place to be.

1583
01:56:16,479 --> 01:56:20,079
Yeah yeah, I still so all
right. We'll be in touch okay,

1584
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:25,279
yeah, you soon and I will
talk to you every soon. Wanting thank

1585
01:56:25,319 --> 01:56:27,039
you. I want to thank everyone
for listening. To us. Let me

1586
01:56:27,119 --> 01:56:30,000
do the plugs come straight. Troops
is a military organization that raises troops.

1587
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:34,920
What about raises funds for troops that
were wounded in Post nine to eleven ash

1588
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:39,800
And that's the one in Iraq and
in Afghanistan. These people have come home

1589
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:44,439
missing limbs and so on, and
Home Stow Troops builds them homes that I'm

1590
01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:45,920
better suited to their needs. That
means not a lot of stairs, lower

1591
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:48,319
counter space, stuff like that.
And then when the home is completed,

1592
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:53,000
they tear up the mortgage and give
me the keys to stay home forever,

1593
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:57,880
no cost at all. These people
can go and rejoin the workforce and let's

1594
01:56:57,880 --> 01:57:01,800
say, lead a normal life.
Wullstrut Troops, ninety cents on your charity

1595
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:08,439
dollar goes directly to our veterans.
Okay, please go on online, google

1596
01:57:08,479 --> 01:57:12,880
them Allstrut Troops say what they're about. And as we say every weekend,

1597
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:15,319
it's very important to remember that John
McCain was a war hero. He was

1598
01:57:15,359 --> 01:57:19,960
also a wounded veteran. And these
are the type of people that we look

1599
01:57:20,039 --> 01:57:24,119
up to. You don't make phone
of them, okay. And so this

1600
01:57:24,279 --> 01:57:28,479
is MAC for the rest of the
gang saying and to your Harris next time,

1601
01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:35,600
be safe, be happy and a
barn. Hey Mac Maloney fans,

1602
01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:41,720
this is Pistol Pete and I'm sitting
here with the one and only Mac Maloney.

1603
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:44,359
Hi Mac, Hi paid. Now, Mac, you've got a new

1604
01:57:44,399 --> 01:57:48,000
book out called how to Dump a
Body at Sea and Not Get Caught that

1605
01:57:48,119 --> 01:57:53,119
you wrote with our pal, famous
crime novelist Mark Zappula. How did this

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whole thing come about? Well,
Mac and I have this mutual friend that

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we go out having beers with every
once in a while, and he had

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say twenty stories that he would tell
us kind of over and over again,

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and at some point I said,
you know, we should write these down,

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and we did and it turned into
a book. It's such a crazy

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title. How'd you come up with
it? Well, kind of the same

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thing. We're in talking to this
friend of oz one night and he just

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said, you don't how to get
rid of a body sea? And I

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can taught, And of course we
didn't know, and so he told us

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and the secret is in the book, but I can say that it involves

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a lot of chainling fence and some
crabs. Al Mac, you gave me

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an advanced copy of the book and
like I said before, it's one of

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the funniest things I've ever read.
It reminded me of The Sopranos if the

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Sopranos had a laugh track. Thanks
Peter. But it also gives you instructions

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on how to do some pretty shady
stuff, stuff not exactly legal. Well.

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Yeah, the book is about the
true life adventures of a Druveniulet de

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Linklin growing up in Boston in the
late nineteen eighties, so you get a

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lot of the inside stuff, like
the best way to steal a car,

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the best way to burn a caa, how to make fake ideas, things

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like that. But in one chapter
you actually tell people how to turn an

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old, broken down Toyota into a
brand new Rolls Royce in five easy steps.

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And it actually works. Yeah,
I know it sounds crazy. I

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didn't believe it until I saw the
proof, but yes, it actually works.

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Now, one last question. There's
a lot of laughs in the book,

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but also a lot of pretty crazy
stuff, legal and illegal. Is

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it really all true. It's really
all true, but on the advice of

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a publisher, they've asked us not
the same thing beyond that for legal reason.

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But yes, it is all true. Well, thanks Mac. That's

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how to dump a body at sea
and not get caught. The Al Ferrari

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story by Mac and crime writer Mark
Zappula. Get it today on Amazon