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This is I on the Ball with
Steve Rivera and jagon Zalis on Fox Sports

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fourteen fifteen, powered by Nova Insurance
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Station Yet. Good afternoon, everybody.

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Welcome to I on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm

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Steve Rivera alongside partner jagon Zos.
We're loan in the studio, so you

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never know what's gonna happen. I
hate Boston, Jay. I've seen enough

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basketball flameouts in the final seconds or
moments this year to last me a lifetime,

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you know. And it's it's a
sad state of affair, Steve,

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when you know, you tweet your
text out something like that, you said

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I hate or Boston is dead to
me or something like that, and then

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I have to defend myself and say
I had nothing to do with it because

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I did not touch the game.
You're putting on a third party, in

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the third party to do something.
I hardly even watched the game. Uh

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you know, I was doing some
stuff and um rarely saw the game.

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And you know, I saw the
Celtics were kicking their butt. Then I

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looked at the scoring. I'm like, what happened? Yeah, they pulled

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the Arizona against Princeton. You couldn't
hit a shot, and then all the

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other team Dude, those hit shots. The game turned and they just couldn't

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come back. Was it was it
Jimmy Butler again, I mean again,

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I don't know enough about what happened, and it was everybody but Jimmy Butler

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was He threw up a shot that
you know had no chance and it bounced

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in and he said, dude,
that's gonna be the end of it.

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And that was the end of it. But you know, I'm not a

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Boston guy, so it doesn't really
matter. Um, your daughter's still there.

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She's coming back. Yeah, she's
actually actually she's back here and about

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two weeks. Yeah, so the
Boston will be eliminated by the tonight.

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We have Denver and they I hope
Denver wins tonight. I'm not sure that

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will happen though, because usually because
one on one. Um, but we'll

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see what happens. Um cool,
Okay, Hey, big shot of the

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Yeah, good stuff. Dave Hekey
is gonna join us. Uh, we'll

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talk some we'll talk some sports stuff. But Dave is one of the Fathers

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of the Year by the Father's Day
Council of Tucson, a group that one

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of my boss is, Steve Rosenberg
over at BIS Tucson, is intimately involved

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with UH and his dad was was
one of the founders of the Father's Day

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Council here in Tucson. Big event
for them with the with the dinner coming

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up first weekend in June. But
Dave was one of the Fathers of the

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Year, as was Reggie Geary,
who will be on the show tomorrow.

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So we'll talk about, you know, being dad's in you know for Dave

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Man a really challenging, challenging yeah, good, a couple of good kids.

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Job. I did a story.
I think you edited my story for

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yours. The biz two sons.
Um, you know, he's all my

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age, maybe a little older,
maybe a little older, a little younger.

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Former athlete, now a d didn't
have a long way to get here,

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but he got here. Um,
a pretty good athlete. But you're

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right in time consuming, right when
you have a job to have a job

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like that, you know. And
then Reggie Geary as well, you know,

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guy's a professional athlete. Um,
you know, he's he's settled in

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a little more working at the u
of A. He does do some broadcast

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stuff, but again, you know, very challenge. I mean, look,

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it's hard enough being a dad,
you know, and then you're throwing

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all these other things that these guys
are doing. So we'll talk to them,

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both of those guys, about that, but you know, also get

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some of their takes on some of
the stuff that's going on right now,

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sure PAC twelve and around Arizona.
And then at h at four or fifteen

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it'll be John Wilner. Um,
he's a really busy guy keeping up to

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date on everything that's going on that
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we read Dave Hekey's quote from yesterday. You know, what you know now

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maybe different from what you know in
an hour, and so we're going to

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get the latest from from John about
what the hell is going on over with

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the PAC twelve. How much longer
before this thing uh takes shape? I

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don't know how much he can tell
us, you know, we can speculate

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a lot. He's a lot closer
to the situation than we are. So

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we'll hear from John and get the
latest of what's going on protectularly as it

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relates to the PAC twelve, never
changing. Did they have meetings yesterday the

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day before, a couple of days
ago. Yeah, there was some meaning

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nothing really really, I did some
Listen, we'll talk about this. I

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don't want to talk about it now. But the rules or in game stuff

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and blah blah blah, boring crap. I saw that, you know.

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And again, I mean we talked
about why did they even do I don't

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half time thing and stuff that they're
never gonna say anything that's gonna matter.

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It's a waste of time. But
mic up stuff. Yeah, that's fun.

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That's good, right. I mean
one of the funnest things that I've

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seen lately in broadcasts when they put
a microphone like a guy in the outfield

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and then a ball gets hit to
him. That stuff is fun. Yeah,

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but even right, but try and
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from a from a coach. Yeah, it's gonna tell you what. Yeah,

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you know, at at after the
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time, what do you use it
for? There's nothing to use it for.

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I saw one for hockey maybe three
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it was the I don't know,
didn't matter, uh, and the guy

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was annoyed. Did they asked some
a couple of good questions. It was

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a couple of quick yes, no
things, and he got the hell out

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and and and they laughed because,
well, what's he gonna say right after

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the first first period? I to
me, that means nothing to me.

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In fact, it's as you say, it's annoying. It's annoying because because

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you feel like one the poor person
that's got to come up with a question.

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You know, how are you feeling
about your game? Right? Well,

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we're down fifty to nothing, so
I'm kind of hating it right now,

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right, you know, or you
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Oh, this game is not over. It's you know, come on

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stop. Yeah, it's but again, you know the miked up stuff that

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you can play later on because you're
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players pre game and stuff like that. That kind of stuff is kind of

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fun. Yeah, they do that
with coaches and stuff, so that I'm

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okay with that. The coaches the
stuff like so Steve and and some of

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the other guys would be interesting and
well, you know they do with the

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NBA. Speaking of college football,
Steve, it's one hundred days away.

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One hundred days away, today we're
double double before the first game. For

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the first game. Okay, yeah, I'm excited. You already talked about

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it yesterday college college football. Um, listen joy the first the next ninety

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nine? Please please can you give
you that's what you're gonna so you're gonna

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get one hundred and ten peros soon. In fact, um, uh,

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you know, the world is gonna
get hot outside and we're gonna be miserable.

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And I had to go out and
fix a fix a sprinkle in my

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yard and I got dizzy. I
think that was as much from bending over

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as it was from the heat.
Are you by yourself, because no one's

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gonna be well. I keep my
phone with me now when I go work

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out in the yard, and keep
my phone with me. And comes from

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a comes from an incident, uh, I don't know. Several years ago,

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I was up on the ladder and
I was trimming a bush and I

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fell off the ladder and and he
had hit my head on the on the

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hedge clipper on the way down and
cut my head open. Fortunate, and

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I landed on some bricks, so
fortunately my phone only fell. My phone

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was still within arm's reach of me. I was able to reach my phone

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and call My wife was inside the
house and told her to come out and

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get me. I hope a phone
and I can't give up, but I

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goes pretty much yet I didn't know
if I could so big Toyamardo. You

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know the Propens guess they had an
interesting question that I had responded to it

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I really do on Twitter? What
what is it? Word? What word

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or term or phrase that makes you
cringe? You just hate here and hearing

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during games? Or what phrase,
word or phrase or term do you that

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makes you cringe during the game.
When somebody asks after a win or a

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loss, how do you feel?
Right? How did that make? How

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did you you went off for one
hundred and five points? What did that

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mean to you? That's what you
That's what you guys say. You know,

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how would you think I feel?
Or when they say what what does

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this win mean to you? It
means that we want, you know,

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we gotta go play we gotta go
play them again day after tomorrow. That

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what does it mean to you?
Whin blank? How do you feel?

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So? I responded this way?
Um, when when they say score the

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basketball, oh, he just he
can score the basketball? What else else

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is you gonna score when he plays
basketball. He can score the golf ball.

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You didn't score the tennis ball.
When you can score, you would

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hit the hell out of that.
What we scored fifty five points with the

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basketball? And what else is he
what else you can score? Yeah?

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Yeah, yeah, we've been we've
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it happens. You'll hear it tonight. I guarantee you're gonna hear it tonight

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if you watch the game that yo, kids can really score the basketball.

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Yeah, I hear that one.
I just and again it gets back to

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those those sideline reporters where they got
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of the game. What did it
mean to you to score fifty points,

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to win the game, to pull
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something better than this. Yeah,
it's the hardest job. That's gotta be

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one of the hardest. It is, But that's why it's not really needed.

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It's just not either. But you
gotta figure out what why are you

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getting paid? Okay, So what
else going on? M the golf?

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What's going on with Well, surprisingly
be Bryson de Shambo, who's he went

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to the Live Tour. He's been
crap at the Live Tour. He basically

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lost his game. I watched his
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some deep stuff because he talked about
how he just lost his game and and

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so he was really happy to have
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leads by a stroke, you know, kind of out of nowhere. Um.

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And then John rom the world's number
one player, is six over.

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He shot the worst round by a
world number one, the worst opening round

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by a world number one in the
PGA Championship. Ever, he's the dude

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from a s U has been,
he's been money, he's won the Masters,

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um, and he went out of
shot six over par. He's gonna

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have a tough time making the cut
tomorrow. And then my guy, like

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I said, I got Xander Shaffley
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I'm like, I'm like, he's
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par. I can take him.
I could beat this guy. He's still

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far over after six or something like. But continues. You know, not

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a lot of big names up at
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there are not. You get a
lot of guys who have, you know,

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a great round, and then they
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the next day. It's kind of
it's in Rochester, New York. It's

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kind of cold over there. They
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delay, so they started almost two
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this morning, but just very briefly. I was up in early. Man,

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I had love. I love the
Majors. I love the Majors with

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you know, for those of you
who have watched stuff with with ESPN Plus,

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it used to be ESPN with Britt
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one o'clock Thursday and Friday. Then
they have it early on Saturday and Sunday,

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and then it goes on to the
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Now with ESPN Plus it comes on
when they TAF So I got up at

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I was up at six and it
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know, I grabbed my coffee,
turn on ESPN Plus on my TV and

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I'm watching off there. But so, did you read how Ozillus did in

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his first I did not some clips
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fairly well obviously with points and numbers. Uh, you know, I've been

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doing this long enough to know that
points and numbers and rebounds don't mean anything.

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Wow, it's your ability to play, right, Guys. The guys

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who were watching are looking for something
other than put what you put in the

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box score right. And I mean
I hate when people, I just I

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really do. When when you see
the coach or you see and the coach,

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and the coach can do it.
The players take the little sheet and

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they sit at the podium and then
read the stats, and so why I

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have this and have that? And
if you can't play and you can have

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twenty three And I'll give you the
example. Ruben Douglas could feel the basketball.

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He could, he could feel the
skill. He could he could score

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the basketball right and do other things. But he couldn't. He couldn't play

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at the next level because guess what, he just wasn't good enough. He

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was the heck of a college player
dot dot dot. But he even though

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he had great numbers, it's not
about numbers, Jay, It's like Miles

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Oh, he had this great run. Yeah, because he was a pretty

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good college basketball player, but could
he fit into an NBA play with other

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guys? Exactly, You're on the
court with Kevin Durant, do you know

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what to do? You're guarding these
guys, right, yeah, right,

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I give a college basketball player.
But yeah, no, I you know

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that's well, and that's what these
combines are about. They want to see,

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Okay, what do these guys do
besides make a layup and score or

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whatever? You know, how do
you how do you play? How do

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you fit in? This is super
second? He has a great comb combine,

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great numbers. Didn't you know that
he can do that already? Then

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what's what's what's his big knock?
The jumper from beyond? How athletics is

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he gonna beat with the other guys? Uh, there's factors involved at the

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next level that you absolutely there's a
reason why they get paid a lot of

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money, exactly exactly. You know. You know it's funny because I mean,

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I play basketball as a kid,
but I don't know how to play

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basketball right right right? You know
I mean and by that I mean even

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when you know, when I was
young and I was still playing, Yeah,

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I played on the city league team
and stuff like that, I didn't

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really know how to play basketball.
How you know when and where to set

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a pick? You know, how
you know the vision to make a you

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know, make a pass, when
to shoot her? When I maybe I

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shouldn't shoot from here because that guy
should shoot time and circumstances, you know

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all that stuff. I you know, there's a there's an art if you

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call her an art or a science
or whatever. You're playing basketball, you

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could and not everybody. Just because
you could go out there and shoot the

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ball doesn't mean you know how to
play basketball right right. The one that

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kind of did this beyond what we
thought he would be t J McConnell right,

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time and circumstances. You think TJ
is gonna make the league. And

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then Sean was adamant about it.
Slow white guy, but fantastic. His

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IQ was. It was off the
charts. And you know what, he

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knew he couldn't shoot, Yes,
he does, so he'd only shoot when

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he knew he could make it right, right, right, and time and

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circumstances. He does a great fantastic
job now all these years later, right

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making tons of money because he knows
how to fit into the system. Kerr,

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Yeah, Kerr did the same thing. Right, Call me when you

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need me a shot. I'll be
right here, right there, right,

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you know what I mean? TJ. Heck, even you didn't have a

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jump shot, he had like a
flat footed sets Solomon Hill same way.

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It didn't wow you, right,
but he had a heck of a long

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career with all the other things that
he could do. Right, all right,

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let's go take our break. We
have Dave Hicky, one of the

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fathers of the year, also the
athletic director at Arizona, so we'll have

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some questions about all that stuff when
he gets here. So stick around for

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have Dave Kiki d Ad at Arizona. How are you, Dave, I'm

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doing great, gentlemen, thanks for
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our conversation. Yeah, us two. Congratulations. It's a nice a little

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honor that you're getting a little big
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excited, and it's very nice of
the group to be to be part of

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it, to be recognized as a
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the great tradition that has in town. And uh again, I'm very honored,

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a little bit, I'm very humbled
and a little bit surprised all in

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all in the same thing. Well, as you're aware, Dave, you

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know, I'm a Steve and I
are both writers for BIZ Tucson. I

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read the story that's that was done
on you and you know, really focused

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on you know you as a dad. I mean, we know who you

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are as an athletic director, so
we didn't want to talk about that right

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now, but you as a dad
in the job that is so demanding.

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Um, you know you have to
ask, you know, how are you

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able to you know, to do
that? I mean I don't do half

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the stuff that you do, and
I don't think Steve does either, And

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being a dad is still pretty hard. You know, how did how did

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you balance all of that and you
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hey, we're we're all busy in
our in our ways, and I

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think parenting is a really a big
challenge and we all have to prioritize.

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I think that's what Liz and I
have tried to do is always prioritize our

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family and our our boys, three
fantastic boys who are now a really outstanding

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young man. Um. But you
know, in our world, it is

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all consuming at times, and we
really just embrace the profession. We embrace

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We love athletics. The boys have
been involved in athletics, but to be

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around it from infants all the way
through their lives, that's where a lot

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of our memories are. And they
tagged along and they've walked in locker rooms,

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they've walked out on fields, they've
they've been part of this from the

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very beginning. We we just made
that what had kind of become. I

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come from a very traditional family.
We had dinner every night. We was

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a pretty pretty straightforward My dad was
a dentist, my mom was a nurse,

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and then obviously the head of our
household. And you know, it's

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pretty straightforward. We lived in the
same house and and you know, that's

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a different lifestyle than we have and
what Liz and I have and our boys.

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So but we've just tried to embrace
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it. And it's a fun,
fun lifestyle, and I think our boys

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have really appreciated it too. I'm
assuming, and having talked to you and

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did a no story on you that
the boys were with you a lot and

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they kind of played ball when you
were at work, well they did.

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I guess you know. I've always
embraced it wherever we've been, and I've

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been fortunate that the people who have
worked for have have allowed it and embraced

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it. As having families and children
around this is a demanding as we just

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talked about profession, whether you're a
coach or administrator. It's great to see

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kids around at practice, out on
the fields, seeing their their moms and

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dads at work, just being part
of it because it's special and yeah,

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and I think when you're around it, the boys got to yeah, play

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catch with some pretty neat people and
run around the gym, shoot hoops,

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you know, be out on the
practice field. It was It was a

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lot of fun. How much of
the type of athletic director that you've been

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has has had to do with or
does have to do with the fact that

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you got you know, kids were
called athletes, right, Um, you

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know, trying to make sure that
there was some you know level of experience

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that you were you know, do
you were responsible before for athletes who were

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not your kids? Well, and
I look at us as our program.

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Um, this isn't transactional, this
isn't clinical. Um, these are someone's

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sons or daughters, granddaughters, grandsons, niece's nephews, you know, really

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important people and we have to embrace
that they've come here, they've chosen to

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be part of our program. I
want our program to feel like family,

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to feel like people care about them
and and that's how I've you know,

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again, I was a student athlete, been in the business a long time.

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UM, I always want to prioritize
our young people. Then when I

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had two sons who who played and
played in a program that I was involved

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in, you know, you get
a little different look and they kind of

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look across you go, hey,
how can we do this? And how

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come it goes down like this?
Or how come they get this and we

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don't? How come they travel over
there and we don't. You know it

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Really it makes you open your eyes
to UM making sure that your program is

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really balanced. But again i'd go
back to I really care about those young

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people and the development in our program. I want them to win. I

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want them to win at everything.
But that's not the only thing that we

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try to do. And we you
know, there's a lot of benefits in

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losing and competing and and all of
it. And I think that's why we

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just try to make our program feel
like everyone has a place here and everyone

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has really cared for and really can
can you know, can excel in whatever

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they want to do. One of
the things that Steve alluded to a second

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ago is you know, I mean
the in the field that you're in.

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You know, you move around a
bit, so maybe at some point you

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settle in. You know you've been
here for a while now, but you

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know you've had to move around,
You've had to bring the family with you,

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and those kinds of things. You
know, how again in your mind,

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how did you how did you try
to handle that to make it as

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I don't know, a seamless as
the word, or it's comfortable for your

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family to be able to make these
moves that you guys made. We always

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tried to prioritize family, Liz and
I always do that. I've been fortunate

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and really blessed really to only be
at three different places, maybe four when

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you count my early career at Michigan
State, but three different places with family,

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and we've made that a priority.
If we were going to move,

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it had to be a really good
move for our entire family. And when

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we made the commitment when we're at
Central Michigan where I was prior to here

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at Arizona, we were not going
to move regardless of what opportunities came about.

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If one of our sons were started
high school, he would start and

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complete at the same high school and
in a way. You know, we

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were blessed because all three of them
started and finished in the same high school.

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All three of them went to the
same high school. I think that

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provided some stability and it didn't hurt
me it really. I think again,

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as we prioritized the family and what's
really important, there was way more benefits

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for that than anything career could have
done for me. Maybe a couple of

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quick questions here, how did your
dad influence you? I think I may

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to ask that question, but I
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your potential, your future father in
law given you the best advice. Indirectly,

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Well, you know, I've had
some some really solid men in my

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life, but certainly my dad and
my mom. It all starts with my

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mom and dad. They were really
solid, um such giving, warm people,

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only wanted the best for their children, gave them every opportunity to be

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to do whatever they wanted to do, try whatever they wanted to try.

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Our family was really pretty basic.
There wasn't a lot of rules or discipline.

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My dad really had two simple things. Do the right thing. Always

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do the right thing, and when
you're not. When you're if you don't

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really know what the right thing is, your gut will tell you and then

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to be a good person. Everything
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that was really straightforward. And then
yeah, my father in law made sure

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that you know, I was going
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uh, we we had some direct
conversations about that, so I definitely learned

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00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:03.519
about that side of it as well. No, no, didn't he say

410
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:07.039
like, are you really gonna do
this for? Is this going to really

411
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pay the bills? My father in
law took me outside one day. I

412
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was we were newly married, and
I did not have a really solid job

413
00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:18.960
yet, and he kind of came
asked me and goes again. He was

414
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a really salty earth guy from the
state of Michigan, a state worker,

415
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and he said, remind me again
how you make money doing this sports thing.

416
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And I knew right then I better
get a real job that had benefits.

417
00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:34.960
And it was a it was a
very direct way, or maybe a

418
00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:38.279
little bit soft way, but direct
to the point you better get it together

419
00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:41.720
here a young man or else is
going to be a short relationship. Well

420
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and so again a really great honor
for you, a Father of the Year

421
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from the Father's Day Council. Uh, and you got a guy in your

422
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in the department, he's also doing
that. Reggie Geary named named one of

423
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the Fathers of the Year. How
cool is that for you two guys.

424
00:26:56.519 --> 00:27:00.000
It's very cool, Um, the
opportunity to be up there with Reggie,

425
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:02.640
and you know, I get to
watch Reggie kind of walk his journey a

426
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little bit with our team, with
our staff and his family and how great

427
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they are with their kids. And
you know, I'm inspired and impressed by

428
00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:12.440
by Reggie every day, and so
it's it's neat to share the you know,

429
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the podium with him amongst the other
Fathers of the Year. Um,

430
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it's a it's a terrific group of
us. There's five of us, and

431
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I mean they've done terrific things and
I'm just so glad to be along for

432
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the ride. But it is special
to have two of us from from here,

433
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from Arizona Athletics and from different backgrounds
and different ways of life to to

434
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:33.079
kind of be there together. I'm
I'm inspired by that it But you know

435
00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:37.119
what's most important is really what it's
all about, and that's helping others,

436
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:41.240
helping the Steal Children's Research Center,
and you know, watching doctor Kushan and

437
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:47.640
the great um scientists and doctors who
are really trying to cure diabetes for diabetes

438
00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:49.359
one for young children, you know, in young children, and uh,

439
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:55.359
it's some really moving stories. And
so I'm I'm inspired by being part of

440
00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:59.880
that and helping the group move forward
and helping us bring awareness and certainly dollar

441
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.359
helping that cause. I still think
that there's tickets available for this, right

442
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:06.480
you can go to the you can
go to their website. It's uh it's

443
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:11.240
fd Tucson dot com. Uh.
The event is on June the fourth,

444
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:15.079
which is Sunday at Loews Vantana Canyon. It's a Sunday evening, uh cocktail

445
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:19.559
reception and then the gala dinner and
awards. So as as Dave said,

446
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:23.240
five, you know, five honrees, Peter Backus, one of the just

447
00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:27.920
a local businessman, Shane Clark,
there's always always get a military person.

448
00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:33.319
He's out at the Arizona Air National
Guard. And then Vince Fallbaum who's a

449
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:37.279
wealth management guy. And then obviously
Reggie So David, congratulations on that.

450
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:40.640
Okay, now we're not gonna let
you go now because we have we have

451
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:44.720
other questions. I know you're thinking, we still got we still got six

452
00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:47.880
minutes. So uh, and we're
going past the nachos, are going to

453
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:52.039
move right on to you know,
how much can you tell us about what's

454
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:55.079
going on with the PAC twelve right
now? We're to have John Wildern a

455
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:57.119
little later, so he'll give us
a perspective. But you know, people

456
00:28:57.160 --> 00:29:00.839
are getting answer obviously, and you
know, just because they don't know.

457
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:04.599
So what how much can you tell? Well? Hey, you know again,

458
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:08.039
Uh, look, we all get
a little uptight and little nancy when

459
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:12.400
we all fear the unknown. We
don't know exactly what will happen. We

460
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:18.240
want stability, we want coordination,
you know, we want long term stability.

461
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.839
Um. But look, I'm again
I remain very confident, as I

462
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:27.200
consistently have said, UM, we
are true together the ten institutions that remain

463
00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:33.440
that have chosen to stay together.
We believe very passionately that we can put

464
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.519
a media deal together that will be
very successful. Um, that will provide

465
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.839
the resources for the ten institutions to
stay together. We can evaluate after that

466
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.880
media deal comes to fruition. You
know, what what next steps occur?

467
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:48.799
Do we do we want to grow? Do we want to stay at a

468
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:52.599
certain number? How would we alter
what we do you know that all play

469
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:56.279
that's the next step. And so
I think that again, good people are

470
00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:00.240
working on this. It continues to
be a positive, um, move moving

471
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:03.160
forward type of program. You know, I don't want to every time you

472
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.759
say something, people can kind of
mix your words. They look at I'm

473
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:08.880
bullish on it. We're going to
get this thing done. Very hopeful of

474
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:15.279
that. I've always said you have
to look at all different things. You

475
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.200
can't just get lost in a tunnel
or in a vacuum. But again,

476
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:22.039
I'm very focused on making this work
and being a PAC twelve soon to be

477
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:26.519
PAC ten and maybe Pack something else. But we're going to stay together as

478
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.039
the Pack and get a good media
deal. One of the things that we

479
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.839
applaud Van or at least I have, and we have here the spring sports.

480
00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:37.960
We talk a lot about the football
and the basketball programs, and we

481
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:41.359
know what happened there. And I
thought that we talk about this this kind

482
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:45.680
of reminded us of the nineties when
it was things were going fantastic. This

483
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.039
year not so much. You know, softball didn't do so well. Baseball

484
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:52.160
is trying to survive and some of
the other sports. How do you make

485
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:56.079
the spring situation right now. Well, you know again, I think our

486
00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:00.319
teams are you know, have had
different journeys, and I think, look,

487
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.960
we all want immediate or we want
really solid success. All the time,

488
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:07.079
we're focused on winning. You know, I'm proud of our softball program.

489
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:11.279
We went through a lot of different
things that people don't understand from a

490
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.319
team perspective. Kaitlin did a remarkable
job. I thought we we've there's no

491
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:21.119
secret we've kind of struggled in finding
the right mix and getting the right outs

492
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:25.960
that you need sometimes from pitching,
but we've had key injuries. We can

493
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:27.960
hit the ball, and I thought
we were playing really good softball at the

494
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:30.960
end. I'm on record is saying
I think we're one of the teams that

495
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:33.960
deserves to be in the tournament.
A lot of the problem is when you

496
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:37.920
leave that into someone else's hands and
while you're playing with fire. And yes,

497
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:41.119
we needed to win a few more
games to get in there. I

498
00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:45.000
was really proud of our group and
our staff here the community for hosting the

499
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.880
first ever PAC twelfth Championship tournament here
in Tucson. It deserves to be in

500
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.559
Tucson. We glad we hosted it, and I thought I think we said

501
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:55.880
a really high bar. Baseball has
got a big weekend here. They're not

502
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:59.400
done. Let's just we we got
to win some games against USC this weekend,

503
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:02.680
get to the tournament in Scottsdale,
and then work our way into postseason

504
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:07.240
play for an NC double a regional. Really proud of our golf teams are

505
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:09.000
our women will go to the are
one of the top thirty teams in the

506
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:14.440
country in the national start tomorrow,
so up in Scottsdale. So and Laura

507
00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:16.519
and Ella was named the coach of
the year, the national Coach of the

508
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:22.279
Year just yesterday, so you know, good things are happening. I'm really

509
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:27.359
confident in both our baseball and softball
programs. And again men's golf was in

510
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:31.160
the regional tournament, unfortunately didn't go
on to the advance to the national tournament,

511
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:35.359
but it still had a really good
year and the futures bright with some

512
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:38.279
outstanding young players there. Track and
field's not done yet. We've got national

513
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:44.720
champions on that squad. We finished
fifth in the Conference UH tournament and you

514
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:47.799
know the conference championships and any anytime
you can finish ahead of the University of

515
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:51.400
Oregon in track and field, which
we did this year. I mean,

516
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:54.079
I think that's pretty good in the
league that's full of great teams in track

517
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:58.680
and field, so on our men's
side. So so that's my that's my

518
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:02.200
I guess Chamber of Respec Fring Sports
round up for you. Okay, So

519
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:06.559
look, we've saved the toughest for
last. And I know there's only so

520
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:12.240
much you can say. What is
that I'm losing a little bit. Okay,

521
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:14.599
something something happened there. I don't
know what's going on, but can

522
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:16.519
you hear some now? What is
that? Okay? So look, and

523
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:20.279
I know there's probably not anything that
you can say about Jane Deloord in the

524
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:23.440
situation, But what I want to
ask you is how you know when the

525
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:28.160
university gets into a situation where there's
a player, there's a situation with a

526
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:30.119
player. You saw the stuff that
happened at Alabama, and you know,

527
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:35.720
and it happens everywhere, and it's
happened in Arizona. What can you as

528
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:40.119
an administration do to kind of you
know, get your arms around things like

529
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:45.920
that. Does what happened with Jaden
make you guys during recruiting look a little

530
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:50.920
deeper into a guy? Can you
change things what can you do to try

531
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:53.960
and not get in a situation where
now you've got a controversy in your department

532
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:58.039
because of something a player has in
his past or whatever. You know,

533
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:00.799
I'm trying to get at sure,
let me let me just kind of say

534
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:05.720
a few things. One, I
want to be real clear that we fully

535
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:09.719
review and evaluate recruits when they come
here. Um do we do FBI,

536
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:15.800
Um you know Secret Service background checks. No, we're not at that stage.

537
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.239
We do background checks, We research
our recruits, We talk to a

538
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:23.199
lot of people. We have um
AT testations that have to be filled out

539
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:29.519
by the student athletes when we recruit
them about their their past and their background.

540
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:31.480
Um. So those all are in
place and those take you know.

541
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:36.400
Now you there are twists and turns
to everything, and um, you know,

542
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:39.239
we we fully The second thing I
would say, when we are faced

543
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:45.360
with something that occurs that we come
that we become knowledgeable of, we fully

544
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:51.039
fully um examine that in review that. And that's not one person, that's

545
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:53.800
a number of people on our campus. It's a full vetting and a full

546
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:57.719
review of it based on the things
that we have. So again, I

547
00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:00.000
don't want to give the impression that
we just you know, we just nonchalant

548
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:02.840
this stuff. We don't and there's
a lot of people involved in that,

549
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:06.960
so we take it really, really
seriously. I'll also say in the in

550
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:12.039
specific cases, you know, there's
a difference between what is reported, what

551
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:16.199
is fact, what you have access
to, what you can get access to.

552
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:21.079
All of those things play into the
decision. As I always said,

553
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:22.559
though, we're gonna do it the
right way. If we learn something that

554
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.519
we have to pivot, we're going
to continue, we'll pivot and we'll do

555
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:30.920
the right thing at the right time. Right, that's fair. I mean

556
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:32.719
hopefully that doesn't. You know,
there's a little bit of it. And

557
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:37.360
I know all these things are hard. Um, we don't take it for

558
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:39.760
granted. We have a high level
of sensitivity to it. I know we're

559
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:44.679
responsible for a lot of things,
and we represent this community, the university,

560
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:47.360
our fan base, and it's and
it's not easy, not an easy

561
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:51.519
decision to make at times. And
that's and that's the hard part of the

562
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:54.840
job, right, I mean,
isn't that? I think those are difficult

563
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:59.599
times anytime you're faced with big challenges
and there are lots of moving parts and

564
00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:04.519
you can not share everything with everyone. All the time. Um, but

565
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:08.599
again you have to just boil that
down to making the very best decision you

566
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:14.000
can make with the people and the
information you have. And UM, I

567
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:17.559
don't take it lightly, and I
know these are really sensitive things and it's

568
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:22.960
hard, but um, but we
will do the right thing. And I

569
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:27.800
feel with the information and all that
we know, and um, the young

570
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.559
men that we have on our football
team will will do the right things and

571
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:32.000
we will represent us the right way. All right, Okay, Dave,

572
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:35.880
we'll congrats again, Thank you very
much for your time. All right,

573
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:39.159
guys, And and again I appreciate
that question and rather than the nacho question

574
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:45.599
because I can answer that one.
So's you know, I've had a couple

575
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:50.679
of those today. We got through
it. So I appreciate a guy that

576
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:52.800
I enjoy spending time. I had
some at the softball game the other day.

577
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:59.440
All good day, Thanks a bunch. Congratulations again, very take care

578
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:02.360
who we know we love having on
the show. Oh once again, And

579
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:06.159
I really want to promo this because
it is a big deal. These fathers,

580
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:08.599
Fathers of the Year, you know, the honorrees are all you know,

581
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:12.639
prominent guys in the community. But
it's a it's on Sunday, June

582
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:15.239
the fourth, lows v Town of
Canyon. You can get tickets at fd

583
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:23.079
AS in Father's Day Oh FDC Father's
Day Council, Tucson dot com and you

584
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:25.719
can go on there and get tickets
by a table, whatever you want to

585
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:30.039
do. It's on June the fourth, on Sunday. All right, okay,

586
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:31.559
let's take our breakword we'll come back. Take your calls. I have

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Steve Ravera and Jaken Salez they have
their eye on the ball on two

632
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Suns Sports Big Chef Fox Sports fourteen
fifty streaming live on the iHeartRadio. A

633
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:54.960
am, Hey, welcome back to
win the vault. You know Fox Sports

634
00:40:55.000 --> 00:41:00.239
Sport ten fifty on Steve's jay.
Got about twelve minutes something like that left.

635
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.920
If you want to call us five
two four one six seventy four forty

636
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:07.559
talk to us about whatever you want
and maybe our interview would do. Dave,

637
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:12.239
he's as such a good sport,
yeah, you know, and look,

638
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:14.559
we have to ask some tough questions, you know. We we don't

639
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:17.119
ever go after him right like some
others might, but we had, you

640
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:21.079
know, we had to ask about
the Jade Delord situation in a way that

641
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:23.519
in a way that he can answer. We just said, tell us what

642
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:27.639
happened with Jade Delores. He's not
They're not gonna, you know, gonna

643
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:29.960
do everything you need to do,
right, Yeah, but it's kind of

644
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:31.559
like, Okay, you know you
have to figure out a way. And

645
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:35.840
that's why you and I are such
pros because we can do that. Okay,

646
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:38.079
they way to ask those questions before
you got on, He was like,

647
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:40.480
what are you gonna do? What
are you gonna ask? The funny

648
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:44.519
think about it, Jake, you've
been on the side of the podium and

649
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:46.559
you've been on the other side.
Uh, you write one hundred stories?

650
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:51.039
Do you write one hundred stories or
cover one hundred nine hundred events? You

651
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:54.400
write ninety nine that are glowing?
Right? That one? People remember,

652
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:59.639
right you're after me? Yeah?
Yeah, no, you hear that all

653
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:01.400
the time. Yeah, you know, you know United nine. Oh it

654
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:06.400
was great, Everything's well and fine. Oh remember that one? Remember that

655
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:12.000
thing that when when Luke like yelled
at Javier Morale is you know, saying

656
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:14.320
that you know, I know you're
trying to get me fired or something like

657
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:17.159
that. I'm like, Luke,
first of all, there isn't anybody in

658
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:22.360
this town, who can get you
fired? And two you know it was

659
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:24.639
during that I think during that stretch
of time when they were getting eliminated first

660
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:28.039
round and stuff like that, when
that happened, you know that. Yeah,

661
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:31.000
No, yeah, Javier came after
that. No, something else happened.

662
00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:35.320
Something happened. We talked about but
he didn't get on Habier for something

663
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:37.719
like that. Was it was something
else. But I know what you're talking.

664
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:38.280
You know what I'm saying though,
Yeah, you know. But it's

665
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:40.679
it's a thing where you write all
these things and all of a sudden one,

666
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:45.199
you know, one bad thing comes
out because you have to sure you

667
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:49.320
know which which. On the flip
side of that, I remember that.

668
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:52.079
I'll tell the story in a minute. They just give us a callback.

669
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:57.440
Yeah, callback, we missed you
know when when when when Melvin Smith fired

670
00:42:57.440 --> 00:42:59.519
the gun? Yeah, and I'd
go, you know, I go to

671
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:02.559
the quarter and at the at the
at the next practice that I saw Dick

672
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:06.559
Tomy. He said, I'm surprised
you didn't go after me more than that

673
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:07.920
more than you did. I said, I wasn't going after anybody was telling

674
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:10.039
the facts. I just had to
report what happened. I was doing the

675
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:13.639
same thing because I was at the
same event. Yeah, at the roller

676
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:15.880
skinning ring. Yeah, And he
was like, you know, you know,

677
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:17.880
I thought you would, you'd go
after us a lot more, go

678
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:22.760
after what you know, what happened. And two people in this town,

679
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:24.760
the media in this town, you
know, I was doing the media in

680
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:30.679
this town, our favorite pretty much
favorable to the u BA. Yeah,

681
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:34.840
to the detrimental journalism kind of in
a way. I mean, you'll do

682
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:36.880
that, you know. And but
and that's all over. You know,

683
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:40.880
it's funny because I, um,
oh, here's the color Hire on the

684
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:45.199
R and I on the ball.
Hey, Jake, good afternoon, guys,

685
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:47.920
Tommy lying, how you doing?
What's Tommy? Hey? I feel

686
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:52.199
like we need marshmallows and a campfire
or something more. I'm about to say,

687
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:58.440
but you know, people, you
know, people of Tuton. I

688
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:01.400
hope and know that you know the
to appreciate that both of you and what

689
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:05.360
you do would have been so tied
and have been tied to the ULA for

690
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:08.480
so long. And you know,
you know, you have a finger on

691
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:13.239
the pulse. You're not afraid to
ask questions now. In the interview with

692
00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:15.719
Dave, you know, and I
thought it was great because you obviously have

693
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:20.239
a relationship with him, right,
that's don't over time. Yes, yes,

694
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:25.400
you know, I myself, I'm
opinionated, you know, and I'm

695
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:30.000
I'm starting to put Dave in the
Jim Live and Good said it Dempsey category.

696
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:34.519
And it's just my personal opinion because
of who I think he is as

697
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:38.360
a person, you know. And
it's so cool, you know, to

698
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:43.440
hear the interview where you're talking about
the father of the Year, you know,

699
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:45.920
because those things matter. You know, you've got kids, you know,

700
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:50.079
and uh, you know, he
shared a little bit about his voice

701
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:52.920
growing up around the programs and how
great that is for kids, despite you

702
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:57.159
have to move around. And then
when it came time, you know,

703
00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:01.400
I really appreciated how you crafted the
st to the Jay because if he knews,

704
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:05.199
you're gonna put him in a spot
that he can answer the question.

705
00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:08.079
It's not like some disappointing loss of
a game and you're at you're at the

706
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:12.920
press conference and you you know,
Steve, go ahead, Yeah, how

707
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:15.199
do you explain this loss? Coach? You know what I mean? And

708
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:21.920
I appreciate that, I really do. I want to make a quick comment

709
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:25.519
about we hear you know, now
we're seeing about how Zoo's doing on the

710
00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:30.320
combines. You know what, It
reminded me of that video we got treated

711
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:34.159
to not to see, not this
past season, but the previous when their

712
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:38.400
mom to be listen Zoo's mom showed
up and surprised. You guys remember seeing

713
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:44.920
that, you know, because these
guys, these kids, he's not coming

714
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:49.320
back, and I'm good with it
because he's trying to make the most out

715
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:52.960
of his life to help himself,
to help his family. And that video

716
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:58.480
came into my head when I started
hearing and reading some of the comments about

717
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:00.000
oh, Zoo, listen Zoo.
That man he's been. He's a great

718
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:04.960
ambassador. We're lucky he was part
of our program. Yeah, you know

719
00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:09.039
a little longer the next one because
we appreciate at him. Well, Tommy,

720
00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:12.760
one of the things that you're talking
about with Dave is reminded me of

721
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:15.519
the Curry interview that we had a
while back. And a few people know

722
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:20.079
about Kurr. So he came on
and how did he sound? Fantastic?

723
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:22.840
Right, kind of like a cool
dude, not the dude you sell on

724
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:25.760
the court, right, Yeah,
And I heard it, uh and I

725
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:30.519
remember too, and again it's not
Kumbaya. But it's how I really feel

726
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:32.760
because Steve, you know, I'll
say that, but you put him in

727
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:37.639
a position to be able to choose
to give the answers with which he wanted

728
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:42.760
to right and how he wanted to
Does that sound correct? No, Well,

729
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:45.880
you have to give him a question
that they can answer. And you

730
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:49.360
know we were talking about that,
you know before, you cause that we

731
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:52.599
couldn't We couldn't say to Dave,
Dave, tell us what happened with Jaden

732
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:54.880
Delores. He's not going to answer
that question. So you're you're trying to

733
00:46:54.920 --> 00:47:00.000
get to an answer, you get
some information that maybe we haven't gotten before.

734
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.280
That's all we're trying to do.
Yeah, and you know to put

735
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:07.159
the to put the chocolate and the
Graham crackers on this call. Um.

736
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:10.000
This is why I like to listen
to the eye on the ball because you

737
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:15.840
guys, you're crafted in what you
do and you know how to and have

738
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:20.960
the relationships to ask the questions that
we need ask in a way the person

739
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:24.840
on the receiving end doesn't feel confront
the corners, right right. I appreciate

740
00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:28.880
it. Yeah, I think we
appreciate the words. Thank thanks so much,

741
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:34.800
many great afternoon right in fact,
Davison, thanks for the interview.

742
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:39.360
So again and again, we're trying
to be entertaining right as we want people

743
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:42.920
to listen to us. Are we
trying to be informative you, We're trying

744
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:45.199
to be informative too, but we're
not investigative report. No, you know,

745
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:47.559
no, if we wanted to do
that would go back to work in

746
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:52.639
a day, and I'm not going
back right, No, I'm not going

747
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:55.800
back to work in a day.
Music. What is the yeah? Are

748
00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:59.639
there any left? Anybody want to
call? We got a little time left

749
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:02.079
five two one, six, seventy
four forty they give us a quick call.

750
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:06.199
Um uh, just a lot of
a lot of things going on.

751
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:09.920
Um uh. So we kind of
we mentioned that Larsen's coming back, right,

752
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:14.159
it's all right, no, um
um what's his name? They got

753
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:16.480
two kids from Lithuania who are gonna
be here. Passport you, baby,

754
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:21.239
passport you. I think they're gonna
be fine next year. They're gonna be

755
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:23.280
fine. They have a good core
coming back with new guys coming in,

756
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:27.360
and they had guys on the bench
that they're gonna be fine that we didn't

757
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:30.559
see because of the guys in front
of them. But that's kind of the

758
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:35.239
circle of life here. Yeah,
you wait your time again and and again.

759
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:38.079
You know when when when people are
freaking out about you know, who's

760
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:40.719
gonna be on this team. They
were saying that his team didn't come together

761
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:45.519
last year until tis yeh r because
it wasn't finals until right because the two

762
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:54.159
guys the Texas um kid yeah Ramy
and and Henderson Henderson and Henderson Henderson a

763
00:48:54.239 --> 00:49:00.440
freshman um kylin Bos decided didn't declare, you know, to come in until

764
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:04.559
until late in the summer. So
you know, guys, it's it's gonna

765
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:07.119
be fine and they're gonna be good. How good are they gonna be?

766
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:09.039
I don't know when was the last
time we signed out. Someone asked you

767
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:13.599
and I'd been doing time, Steve, how's the basketball team gonna look any

768
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:17.559
good? Well, I've never said
they're gonna look horrible ever ever, exactly

769
00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:22.840
exactly, because I mean we didn't
know going into Tommy's first year and then

770
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:25.119
he did and then he did what
he did. It was kind of like,

771
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:29.920
what do we have here? And
then he went in more or let's

772
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:34.320
did it again you know the next
year, right getting close to it,

773
00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:37.320
like Okay, so what are you
worried about for the year, you know,

774
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:42.199
for next year? Right, why
are you worried? I will see

775
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:45.400
because we've talked about this before.
It'll be his third year, it'll be

776
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:49.480
Chip Haill's third year. It'll be
the softball coaches the third year. Right,

777
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:52.559
and then we got the old oh
well he did it with Sean's player.

778
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:54.480
Yeah, right. How many times
have we said, okay, and

779
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:58.960
guess where Sean is. Guess where
those players got shot. He's not coaching.

780
00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:00.559
They got him fired. So you
know, let's uh, you know,

781
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:05.199
let's take a seditive on all of
that. What do I have to

782
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:09.920
take it? Please you? I
know you got to I know you got

783
00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:14.079
Denver, but I mean Denver,
but i'mout confident. It's five and a

784
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:15.599
half, five and a half,
but I have Denver. I just wanted

785
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:20.880
to go six games, that's all
six game, six games because exactly sex

786
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:23.599
exactly six exactly six. So don't
win this, maybe lose a game or

787
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:28.119
two in LA and then come back
and maybe kind of finish it off.

788
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:31.159
We'll see, we'll see. I
uh, the whole series in my mind,

789
00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:32.880
and I've said this all along is
going to be on a D.

790
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:37.559
A D. You guys, You
and Jason were Waxley potting. Oh they

791
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:39.559
came back. It seems good.
If a D does not have a good

792
00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:44.480
game, it's over for la.
He had a fantastic game and game on

793
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:46.079
forty points and blah blah blah.
Let's see if you can do it again,

794
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:51.119
it again, because he historically had
exactly you answered that for me,

795
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:53.000
right right, So okay, all
right, we'll see, so we'll see

796
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:55.119
what happens. But so don't touch
it, please. I know you had

797
00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:58.519
something to do with last night.
I did. I had nothing, Steve,

798
00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:00.800
Like I said, it was barely
even watching the game. What was

799
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:07.880
I doing last I was working.
I was doing Boston hates you. Boston

800
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:10.960
doesn't even know you kid it with
a Harvard shirt. I do have a

801
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:15.320
Harvard shirt on. You feel smarter, way smartest. You just put it

802
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:19.840
on the shirt. I you know, I joked that we walked around the

803
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:22.480
Harvard campus when I went to my
daughter. When I walked out, I

804
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.639
felt like my IQ just went up
a bunch of points. What was the

805
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:30.679
movie Mett Damon and uh and the
other good Will? Honey, you know,

806
00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:35.000
just walking around the campus. I
went to that statue of John Harvard,

807
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:37.960
and I was gonna say, and
can you get the clock right today?

808
00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:42.440
I got it, We got it, we got But that's my pat

809
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:45.400
I know. Yeah, I'm okay, as as dumb as I am still

810
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:51.119
sometimes. Just know that I was
a little dumber before that. But you

811
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:57.719
look good at the Harvard shot.
All right, let's say, Oh man,

812
00:51:57.800 --> 00:51:59.719
I don't know what to say,
Steve, I don't know what to

813
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:00.760
say. Okay, well, I'll
have to tell you. You have to

814
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:05.559
get some breaking news for later.
And then a few things. Well Wilner

815
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:09.039
talking about as the world as the
PAC twelve turns right, Oh yeah,

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and it is turning. There's a
lot of stuff going on over there,

817
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not just in the PAC twelve,
but it's some of the other confidence.

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So all right, let's take our
break. We're gonna come back. We'll

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have a breaking news here at the
top of the hour. Then John Wilner

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from the PAC twelve hot light,
as I stick around the whole world's com