WEBVTT 1 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:28.839 Hello there, everybody, and welcome back to the Disconnected. I'm here with 2 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:33.600 Lee Gambon, who is seemingly I'm learning about more and more every day as 3 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:38.520 he posts what he does on social media. But Lee is currently in Melbourne. 4 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:44.000 That's correct, right, Yeah, So what all what do you do 5 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:50.159 for film because it seems like you're kind of surrounded by everything. We do 6 00:00:50.320 --> 00:00:53.159 a lot. Melbourne's really lucky. I think we're pretty spoiled. Like I 7 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:57.719 think we're lucky as an art city. There's a lot going on. So 8 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:00.399 there's a lot of film festivals, a lot of film groups as collectives, 9 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:08.879 as society as there's beautiful art deco cinemas, there's the cinema tech, there's 10 00:01:10.719 --> 00:01:12.560 film festivals. I think I just said that, but there's a lot going 11 00:01:12.560 --> 00:01:15.680 on in film culture as well as home media. There's like a really massive 12 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:23.040 quota of a collectors and people who buy home media, two really strong solid 13 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:30.079 home media people companies like in Print and Umbrella, and then also heaps of 14 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:34.400 people who work in home media. Like I just thought about it before jumping 15 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:37.000 on. I was like, there's heaps of people in Melbourne who actually do 16 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:41.239 what I do, which is awesome. It's like a really it's a really 17 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:45.239 healthy, healthy scene. So yeah, there's a lot of film stuff going 18 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:49.840 on. Also, Melbourne's really strong as far as like the live music scene, 19 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:53.439 and there's a lot of there's a lot of kind of parallels there, 20 00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:56.920 I guess, or a bit of a family network there, and the art 21 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:00.280 live actually performing arts like theater and stuff, and also fine arts scene. 22 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:06.519 Like it's just a very i guess, cosmopolitan and very multi dimensional scene that 23 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:08.479 everyone sort of has different pockets in. And yeah, it's awesome, it's 24 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:10.680 great. I love it, I love Malvit. I couldn't live anyone else 25 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:16.240 in Australia, that's for sure. That's incredible. The amount of times that 26 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:22.639 I see things happening in Australia that is seemingly impossible to get done everywhere else 27 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:28.000 is just fascinating. Some of the things that you post about the ECMI seems 28 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:30.080 like somebody that you work with quite a lot. Can you tell everybody what 29 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:36.759 that is? Yeah, So I run a film collective called Cinemaniacs and Cinemaniac 30 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:42.080 Screen at ACME, which is basically a hub cinema and museum in the heart 31 00:02:42.120 --> 00:02:46.039 of Melbourne, and we program a whole bunch of stuff every year, and 32 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:51.000 we get people to do presentations and to do talks and to do panels, 33 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:54.360 and we sometimes get people involved with the actual film itself to do video introductions, 34 00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:59.280 which is always awesome. And so yeah, we're sort of in that 35 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:00.639 sort of round there, that's all. ACME is also the home of the 36 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:06.759 Cinema Tech, so people who are also associated with cinemaniacs here and there, 37 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:12.800 like Alouise Ross and Series Howard, all these people are affiliated with and run 38 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:15.360 the Cinema Tech as well. But yeah, ACME is like a really major 39 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:20.280 institution here. So basically a lot of print gets screened here. There's a 40 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:23.599 lot of museum stuff, there's a lot of exhibitions, a lot of rep 41 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:27.759 stuff happens. A lot of the festivals are held there as well, like 42 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:30.919 Melbourne International Film Festival, so you get a whole range of things happening. 43 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:36.680 You'll have international guests coming down doing you know, talks or exhibition, so 44 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:43.240 it's pretty much a major space. It's amazing. Lately, I feel like 45 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:46.680 your name is coming up multiple releases every single month, whether it's Umbrella or 46 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:53.080 via Vision with Imprint as one of their biggest lines. But they are both 47 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:57.159 of them kind of taking everything by storm. Over the last year, especially 48 00:03:57.879 --> 00:04:02.639 Imprint. Imprint has exploded popularity and I am glad that they're coming out of 49 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:08.400 Australia because they seem to be in their own little niche and has allowed them 50 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:11.599 to do some things that other companies have not. And with Imprint, the 51 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:15.599 big thing is breaking into the paramount vaults. A lot of other companies have 52 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:18.839 tried to do that for years and Imprint suddenly got and continue to get films 53 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:24.120 that have never been able to be released on home video anywhere. What are 54 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:27.120 some of the titles that you've worked on that have been out of these two 55 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:30.399 labels that you're just beyond excited to be able to contribute. Well, you 56 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:34.199 just mentioned you just hit the nail on the head with titles that have been 57 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:36.680 in the vault for way too long, and one of them is The Fabulous 58 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:42.439 Stains, So I mean before I go into that, Yeah, Imprint is 59 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:46.800 amazing. Like the content that's churning out, what the company does, the 60 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:50.240 people that get involved, how diversity is, how the idea is like having 61 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:56.720 a package where basically you have audio commentary, video essay interviews with people involved 62 00:04:56.759 --> 00:04:59.560 with the film. You know, that's just amazing just to have that kind 63 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:03.519 of one lineup. So the boutique release is fleshed out and meeting. That's 64 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:08.399 really important, I think. And it's just beautiful and the packaging stunning, 65 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:12.199 and the princes always looked great and oh just beautiful. But yeah, absolutely, 66 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:15.160 to answer your question about recent releases, in fact, the last title 67 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:18.360 I worked on for Imprint was Yeah, Ladies and Gentlemen, The Fabulous Stain, 68 00:05:19.240 --> 00:05:24.160 which you know, A is a magnificent film, b like has been 69 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:29.560 hidden the ever and has this awesome legacy, like has an incredible legacy. 70 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:32.920 So I was really really tough to be assigned pretty much not only to work 71 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:35.759 on it, but be a producer on the release. So I was like 72 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:40.759 in charge of a whole range of things. So one thing about that movie 73 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:45.000 that really speaks to me is I was really and still am very ingrained in 74 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:47.800 the right girl culture. So early nineties I was obsessed with right I still 75 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:51.639 am. You know, all those bands Bikini Kill and Bratmanbil and all those 76 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:55.680 bands were really important to me and still very much are. And so it 77 00:05:55.720 --> 00:06:00.920 was really cool to see how this film really did generate and spark this kind 78 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:03.959 of inspiration to that movement. Like, you know, so ten years after 79 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:08.720 the movie comes out, these young women who grew up at this movie start 80 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:13.160 this amazing movement. Right So people are Kathleen Hannah and Alison Wolfe, et 81 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:15.800 cetera. So I was like, okay, Toby val et cetera, And 82 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:18.439 I was like, okay, cool, that's a really good angle. So 83 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:20.959 I'm gonna go, Okay, let me start with that. Maybe I could 84 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:27.879 organize something involving Right Girl. And so I got the excellent Alison wolf who 85 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:30.439 of course was in Bratmobile and a whole bunch of other bands called Cold Hearts, 86 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:34.720 Party Line, Sex Stains, et cetera, who was you know, 87 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:39.319 an integral you know, co founder of Right Girl, to do the commentary 88 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:43.079 with me, which was just stunning, Like it was so much fun and 89 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:46.240 she's the best, Like she's so fun and she's awesome and her insight is 90 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:49.720 incredible and also very personal. But yeah, so we did this sort of 91 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:54.759 joint commentary. We could never figure out a time to do it together because 92 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:58.800 we you know, she lives in la but I you know, okay, 93 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:01.519 that's fine, let's just douns. So she sent me all her recording and 94 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:04.680 I did my recording and then I just edited it. And so what you'll 95 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:11.920 get is this, I feel, this incredibly rich collage, I guess of 96 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:15.319 a commentary where you have a lot of production history, a lot of what 97 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:20.160 happened on set, a lot of the conception of the film people involved with 98 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:24.639 it, like the legendary Nancy Dowd and Carol and Kuhn and all these amazing 99 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:29.439 people. And then also what you get is really personal accounts from Alison about 100 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:32.879 the film, what it did and how it shaped her and her ideas on 101 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:36.079 being a woman in a band and all this stuff. So it's really I 102 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:42.600 just feel really proud of that commentary. That and also I got Marion Canter, 103 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:46.319 who plays the guitarist in the band, so you know, not Diane 104 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:49.439 Lane and not Laura der the other musician, and she was awesome. So 105 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:55.079 she did like a really cool interview for it, a little Sarah Marcus. 106 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:58.240 So Sarah Marcus wrote a really cool book called Girl to the Front, The 107 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:01.560 True Story of Right Girl, and she's an incredible critic and academic, and 108 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:07.040 she did a very cool video essay about the film. And Debbie Rashan, 109 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:11.439 the fabulous Debbie Reshond did a video for her, and then also you've got 110 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:16.120 cat Allaner doing a video essay on women in punk prior to the eighties, 111 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:20.879 which is also went to see that, So there's a lot of stuff in 112 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:24.319 there. And then also in print have dug Deep and they've got archive interviews 113 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:30.240 with Laura Dern and Diane Lane and the director Lou Adler. But that's going 114 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:33.320 to be a really huge release and it comes out very soon, I believe, 115 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:37.320 so. Yeah, so it's going to be real and it's just incredible 116 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:45.080 that after doing all that I with cinemaniacs have I don't know how I did 117 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:48.559 it, but I did it, and I'm pretty proud of myself. During 118 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:56.399 here bekinniclare playing in Melbourne in March, and I managed to wrangle and whip 119 00:08:56.480 --> 00:09:00.360 up this whole thing where we're going to screen the fabulous names and have playing 120 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:05.840 Cappy and Toby from Bikini Kill in conversation talking about the fact the stains and 121 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:09.039 what they grew up with as far as film and women and women in punk 122 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:11.480 and music. In film and music, I'd love them to talk about musical 123 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:16.840 biopics because I think that's really interesting and yeah, just also how right Girl 124 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:20.360 was presented in film and TV. But all that stuff, I just can't 125 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:22.600 wait to do it. But yeah, that's all been planned sold out in 126 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:28.120 a freaking day. That is a massive achievement. That's a really cool setup. 127 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:33.200 And yeah, something that seems to be not something that I could definitely 128 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:37.039 go out and see, that seems to be fairly fairly Milbourne centric. That's 129 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:41.240 amazing. It's also like a musicians when do we hear musicians talking about films 130 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:45.559 they love? You know, I think that's really important. Well, especially 131 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:48.519 for a film that's as important as that. That movie has gone to have 132 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:54.159 this giant legacy that people don't really realize nowadays because it's been kind of difficult 133 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:56.600 to see for quite a while, which is where Imprint steps in and is 134 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:01.879 killing. The fact that this release is has been side after for so long 135 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:03.440 and now to get it on EAHD and everybody will be able to get it 136 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:11.039 worldwide is just a stupendous achievement. Absolutely, And also like how important is 137 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:13.840 as far as feminist cinema. So I remember, man Allison, when we 138 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:16.360 were doing the prepping for our commentary, I was like, Allison, I 139 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:22.799 don't really want to talk about the guys expistles in the class, like we 140 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:24.840 know them, and Alison's like, yeah, me either. So it was 141 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:30.320 like but eventually I think we do anyway, but it's like, yeah, 142 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:33.840 it's not a focal point, like whatever, move on, let's still about 143 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:37.519 the women exactly. Yeah. Yeah, it's really interesting so as far as 144 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:41.799 like feminist cinema, teen centric cinema, and working class cinema, so that 145 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:46.279 or kids into that working class girls, which is awesome anyway, Yeah, 146 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:50.879 I completely agree. Umbrella seems to be focusing on another aspect that I wanted 147 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:56.960 to highlight tonight, and that is just really giving this massive respect for ARC 148 00:10:56.159 --> 00:11:01.639 cinema as a whole because they have multiple lines like the sunbrit Cinema that they 149 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:05.919 dive into a lot of very specific Australian films, a lot of the oss 150 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:09.240 Plitation series. Obviously. How how do you connect to ARSI cinema? Is 151 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:15.759 it something that's special to you personally? Definitely the eco horror stuff, but 152 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:20.519 that's definitely the bag of people like Mark Hartley who's done such incredible work for 153 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:24.080 our cinema history and stuff, and people like Alexandra Hala Nicholas who's doing amazing 154 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:31.200 stuff with fangoria, with celebrating a lot of Ossy unsung Ozzie stuff. But 155 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:33.840 yeah, there's a lot of amazing people who do a lot of championing of 156 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:39.960 Australian cinema. For me personally, it's funny people assume that I'm a big 157 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:43.960 Hollywood nerd like I grew Yeah, it's just Hollywood stuff. I love austrange 158 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:48.480 cinema, like animal centric stuff like Dusty is one of my favorite films that 159 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:50.919 people don't talk about, and I think I'd rather release that DVDA that needs 160 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:54.679 a blue roy that needs a nice upbreaded And I put my hand up through 161 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:56.279 the commentary. But that was, you know, written by people like on 162 00:11:56.360 --> 00:12:01.440 your Bog, who's amazing writer. She wrote Dark and Stormboy. But yeah, 163 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:05.159 of course I grew up loving things like, you know, all the 164 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:09.679 osplitation films and the horror stuff, and especially of course the animal centric stuff. 165 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:11.080 You know, Dark Eyed Razor, Back Long Weekend, you know, 166 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:16.159 Dusty, all these films. But yeah, it wasn't like I saught after 167 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:20.399 Ossie stuff, but I loved thinking. You know, there were obscure things 168 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:24.000 that I kind of in my child's brain would connect with American content. So 169 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:28.440 if I looked at something like Ginger Megs, when I saw that as a 170 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:33.200 kid, my brain went to things like you know, ninety nineties Dick Tracy 171 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:35.399 or you know, because I had that kind of say aesthetic, and they 172 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:39.399 came from comics. But yes, as far as like seeking out Ossie films, 173 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:43.679 not really, which is very bizarre, I guess from you know, 174 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:48.840 an American perspective, but I just grew up obsessed with American cinema and like 175 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:52.039 that's what was on television. I think there's an idea that a lot of 176 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:56.799 people who didn't grab an Australia thought we grew up with Ossie content. Of 177 00:12:56.840 --> 00:13:00.600 course you did, but what it was that big compared to what we got 178 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:03.679 was the American stuff, you know, so that like for instance, sitcoms, 179 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:05.159 there was only a fair few kings with country and stuff like that. 180 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:09.320 There were a fair few and a lot more back when I grew up in 181 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:13.240 the eighties, but it was mostly American content. It was mostly you know, 182 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:16.879 you know, Channel ten we have the monopoly on universal stuff, and 183 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:22.480 Channel seven would have a lot of the paramount catalog and you know, Warner 184 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:26.799 Brothers was Channel nine and Uly you could set of have that and they all 185 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:31.879 had a distinct look for some reason they had the print always looked similar. 186 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:33.279 But yeah, it was kind of like just this culture that was sort of 187 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:39.360 built here growing up and being obsessively watching films and TV that was very American, 188 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:45.440 very American, and it's really interesting. I did a panel with Amanda 189 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:48.080 Reis, who of course does a lot of made for TV. She's you 190 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:52.440 know, a scholar on made for television films, and we're talking on that 191 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:56.320 panel it was me Kayla janniast John Harrison, and we're talking about how here 192 00:13:56.360 --> 00:14:01.679 in Australia and TV movies aired, they were never really least as a TV 193 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:03.080 movie. It was just a film that was on you know, the Sunday 194 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:07.000 Night Film or the Wednesday Night Field. So it was never like, you 195 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:09.480 know, specifically for the network because they weren't for our networks, So for 196 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:11.919 your networks and that come here and you'd go, oh, was that actually 197 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:16.600 a TV movie or a theatrical one TV? So that kind of thing. 198 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:20.360 So it was just ingrained in our brains, like you know, I grew 199 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:24.840 up with all that stuff like everything, like I just loved it. And 200 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:28.879 so Australian content was there and I loved a lot of it. There's a 201 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:35.799 lot of kids TV stuff that was fucking crazy and wild, things like Hunter 202 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:37.519 and stuff. But yeah, yeah, I don't know. But as far 203 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:41.200 as like growing up with Ossie stuff, it was there, but I didn't 204 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:46.320 I never really sought after it just because it was Aussie. Yeah, that 205 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:48.360 makes sense, and it's proportional. I mean the amount of media that's been 206 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:54.000 produced, obviously a very small portion is going to be Australian overall, but 207 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:58.360 the amount of Hollywood content, it's it's gonna it's going to infiltrate other other 208 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:03.440 cultures when that's what they're paping in and when there is so much content that's 209 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:05.559 out there, you can only absorb so much. So yeah, that makes 210 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:09.360 complete sense. Are there certain things that really spark that interest for you when 211 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:13.399 you were little that you can recall being you know, these are some of 212 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:18.000 the first things that truly got me into film? Sorry of what, any 213 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:24.080 any film, any TV anything from general Yeah, oh god, a lot, 214 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:28.600 all of it, I believe it. I just hapioned everything, Like 215 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:33.559 I'm right now watching episodes of Designing Women, So I love everything. So 216 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:37.000 it's really hard for me to pinpoint things. But I would say the things 217 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:41.480 that I kind of as a little one as a kid, I really gravitated 218 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:43.919 to horror and monsters. So monster stuff was my thing. So universal, 219 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:48.759 monster movies were like comfort. They still are, you know, chuck on 220 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:50.519 all the sound cues and the dark you know what I mean, and you 221 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:54.240 got and you got you can sleep to them. They're like that nice blanket. 222 00:15:54.799 --> 00:16:00.039 So yeah, monster movies, slasher films, basically all horror. And 223 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:04.919 then also I loved musicals and westerns and nah and stickcoms and just everything. 224 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:08.080 I just ate ate it all up. It was really hard for me not 225 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:12.440 to enjoy much. I even watched obsessed with current affairs programs like that's how 226 00:16:12.440 --> 00:16:15.600 weird I was, but also like talk shows, you know, I just 227 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:18.559 watched everything. So it was really it's really hard to sort of navigate what 228 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:23.720 pinnacle films. However, I would say there are definite movies that are go 229 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:27.679 to films for comfort. But that's quite huge, Like you know how those 230 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:33.320 people who have like maybe ten or fifteen. For me, it's endless, 231 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:36.799 like even like my I do a pile up of Christmas viewing and it gets 232 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:40.039 here. It's just huge it's like, where the fuck are going to watch 233 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:42.080 all? But I'll have it on as a background, Like, you know, 234 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:45.480 it would go from like the sunny and share Christmas Special to you know, 235 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:49.039 it's silent. I did not two, you know, like it's this 236 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:56.159 beautiful running theme. So I just love everything, which is kind of but 237 00:16:56.480 --> 00:17:00.320 it makes you well rounded and it makes you understand where all of that comes 238 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:03.320 from. And really, yeah, it all just kind of builds off of 239 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:07.039 each other in a way that just creates this massive culture awareness. So yeah, 240 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:11.119 that's to you just on your background. Clearly you love a lot of 241 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:15.039 different stuff as well, Like that's a huge collection of blues. So you're 242 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:19.440 not collecting for the boxes. You're collecting because you love the films. And 243 00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:23.680 I know there's and god, everyone who buys physical media, because everyone should. 244 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:26.759 If you can't afford to, you should. It is a privilege, 245 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:30.000 but it is something that's really important for the legacy of films. But also 246 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:34.400 there are collectors who will buy a label and that's because they like the label, 247 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:38.359 and that's fine, but once they watch the films, that's awesome. 248 00:17:38.480 --> 00:17:41.079 Luck it's great for them to actually get involved with the film. So that's 249 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:47.680 really important with the labels that we all work for that the curation is actually 250 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:49.839 really important because it kind of feeds into what people start to enjoy, and 251 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:53.960 I think that's amazing. Well, one of the things I wanted to highlight 252 00:17:55.079 --> 00:18:00.240 is Australia seems to have this interesting sort of personality because they're are two big 253 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:04.319 labels that are doing the physical media down there, and with Umbrella and with 254 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:10.880 via Vision Slash Imprint, they they have this interesting diverse slate of releases that 255 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:14.880 you can pick up, and especially Umbrella with all of their different lines, 256 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:18.400 but Imprint is hitting everything as well. Why do you think physical media is 257 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:25.559 so important to Australians Because it seems like these are just hitting really hard across 258 00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:30.519 the world at the moment. They've both gotten very popular globally because people care 259 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:36.480 about movies and I want to have them forever. And I think people are 260 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:42.279 savvy with how shitty streaming services are, like there's nothing on them. I 261 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:47.640 think I have access to four of them. I've got all the things I 262 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:52.480 want. But I don't know, look don't I can't answer that, but 263 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:56.960 I think, thank god people are buying movies because it keeps people like me 264 00:18:57.160 --> 00:19:02.480 and the people that work in my industry, Catallengers like Alexandra all these people 265 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:06.759 who work in home media. We can eat and we can pay rent. 266 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:10.759 Right. But yeah, also because I think people love movies, they love 267 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:15.039 to collect things. They love the whole tangible feeling of having the film and 268 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:18.960 features. Absolutely. Like you mentioned Umbrella, Ben Hawwig, I'm gonna give 269 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:22.119 him a massive shout out what he's done recently. He's like started with Umbrella 270 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:27.680 just recently, but how he's just curating stuff like he curated the Reynolds box 271 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:32.480 set beautiful. This is where you have these people coming in going, oh 272 00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:34.000 my god, who can do this? Who can you know, get John 273 00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:37.960 Harrison to write a booklet on Reynolds Lee what can you bring to the table 274 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:41.920 for Best of the Whorehouse, I'll do a video essay on sex work in 275 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:45.319 musicals from day he goes done, like you know, like that's how diverse 276 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:49.119 I want to be. And then just all that kind of stuff. The 277 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:55.279 content also, like the archive thing, you know, people saving prints and 278 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:59.079 bringing them to digital format. It's incredible. So people like, yeah, 279 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:03.440 you know what Jeff Harrison and Unbrother's doing, and Mark Hartley with what he's 280 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:07.519 done with the odds stuff is incredible. So Imprint, I mean, Josh 281 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:11.960 Hibbert at Imprint is just incredible, has this amazing curatorial of film, like 282 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:18.319 it's all this great content, picks people associated with the film or you know, 283 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:22.319 it picks perfect people that would do something great for the release. You 284 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:26.839 know, it's amazing. And also just the diversity of voices, the diversity 285 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:30.720 of content digging into archive, so for instance, you wouldn't be able to 286 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:36.880 get a lot of extras that are old extras if you just relied on streaming 287 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:38.960 services, you know. So I think that's just I think, yeah, 288 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:42.599 I think people really find are finding it very important, and it's really interesting. 289 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:45.799 People are now starting to realize and go, oh fuck. You know, 290 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:49.599 if I post something on Facebook or whatever about a movie, they'll go, 291 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:52.079 how do you see that? And go you buy it? Like in 292 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:56.759 the olden days when you've got and they go ah, right, And you 293 00:20:56.799 --> 00:21:00.359 know, people who are in the position, you know, thankfully, you 294 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:04.440 know we are, you know, but there's people who are in a position 295 00:21:04.440 --> 00:21:07.440 who can afford to do that, so why not. And also if you 296 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:11.119 love art, it keeps the machine going, It keeps people a lot, 297 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:15.880 it keeps people eating you know, it's same with music. Buy records, 298 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:18.920 don't just download things download. You know, if you can afford to buy 299 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:22.960 physical media, why not. But yeah, I think it's important because people 300 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:26.599 want to own the product and don't and the streaming services A they don't have 301 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:30.200 much content and b it goes, it disappears. So if you want to 302 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:34.400 forever and the highest quality is in a lot of this physical media as well, 303 00:21:34.440 --> 00:21:40.119 whether it's in a UHD disc, whether it's in Blu ray that there's 304 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:42.960 no doubt that even like the compression that comes across with some of the streaming 305 00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:48.799 and the unreliability of it's it's unmatched when you're talking about physical media because it's 306 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:52.119 you just press the button and it's always going to be there. That just 307 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:56.240 can't change now that you're holding it. That's see. I mean remember when 308 00:21:56.319 --> 00:22:00.200 like David A started, the thing that was so exciting for me was you 309 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:03.640 get to see the picture properly, so you're not relying when your videos where 310 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:07.839 the fucking tracking was going out or something. Jesus like, yes, your 311 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:11.799 gorgeous, I will never throw you out cover you know, fucking you know. 312 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:17.559 Roadshow released beautiful clamshell, but the print that you know, it looks 313 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:18.839 awful. So when the dvns came out, as like, oh, that 314 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:22.920 looks stunning, and then also all the stuff that came as extras, and 315 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:26.200 so I think the legacy of that is great. So it's really important for 316 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:30.200 me as a film guy and all the people who love movies to have all 317 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:33.880 that on there, so to have interviews with all these people who work from 318 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:37.319 these movies who are probably long gone, but that's all there on that disc. 319 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:40.240 So that's stunning. I think that's really important. So I think all 320 00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:44.640 that archive, you know, if that gets lost, that's just an absolute 321 00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:48.920 shame. Like you know, you want, you know, that interview with 322 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:52.279 whoever worked on you know, this classic from the forties and you just have 323 00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:56.279 them talking. It's like that's that's something to cherish and it's legacy. So 324 00:22:56.319 --> 00:23:00.839 I've been lucky and very privileged to interview heaps of people like for years, 325 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:04.039 and a lot of them you know pretty much, you know senior. It's 326 00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:07.519 like you know, ad and they a they love to be able to talk 327 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:11.880 about their work, but be they get excited the fact that people care enough 328 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:14.880 to have it on a release and they go, oh my god, that's 329 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:18.720 why would you know. That's amazing this movie had this life again, So 330 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:22.480 it's really it's lovely. It's really nice to work in that field. Well, 331 00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:26.519 to flip the highlight to you, I think it's also very nice that 332 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:30.000 we get amazing people like you that are able to put their voice in their 333 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:34.200 education behind something like The Stains. I mean that that's a film that has 334 00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:40.440 a giant legacy, but because it's had such a gap from the original release 335 00:23:40.519 --> 00:23:42.640 to now being able to be out on Blu ray, a lot has changed 336 00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:48.079 since then, So getting some sort of contextual special features to go with that, 337 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:51.440 whether that be essays by Kat Ellinger, whether that be a commentary by 338 00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:56.000 yourself and people involved, it is this incredible way to sort of educate an 339 00:23:56.119 --> 00:24:00.799 entire generation that is out with physical media now and being able to see how 340 00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:04.759 it's impacted others, how we are learning from it, how that legacy can 341 00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:10.079 impact the future of film. And I just thank you and thank everybody that 342 00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:14.519 is continuing to contribute to these because otherwise that's a lot that we would lose 343 00:24:14.599 --> 00:24:18.240 completely. Oh, thank you. And it's really I love that you're mentioning 344 00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:22.839 the idea of different voices and scholarship and all that stuff because it's nice. 345 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:26.400 What I like to do with my work is do both. So I like 346 00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:30.960 to do production history as well as analytical, right, So if I'm going 347 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:33.440 to do a video essay, it's going to be analytical and a big shout 348 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:36.839 out to someone like Jonathan's hour and who is an editing master, because I 349 00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:41.319 think video essays are really important because they kind of bring in this academic aspect 350 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:45.680 to it. Unless the video essay is about a star or a director or 351 00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:48.559 whatever, but there's you know, usually thematic thing, right, So that's 352 00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:52.359 really incredibly important, I think. But also having the production history people, 353 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:56.960 so the people who go in archives and dig deep and interview, like I 354 00:24:57.119 --> 00:25:02.880 just for some reason have a bit of a weird idea that if you're going 355 00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:06.279 to be working on a movie that was made safe from like the seventies onwards, 356 00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:10.480 chances that people are alive, so why not reach out and try and 357 00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:15.559 interview them because that's nice first hand accounts of the film anyway. But so 358 00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:18.240 I like to do both. I love to do the productive history research, 359 00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:23.200 interviews, archive as well as bringing my own thoughts or academia or whatever. 360 00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:27.400 But I think that's another important aspect where all these different people that get hired 361 00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:33.000 have something unique to offer, and when you have a release that's got multiple 362 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:36.400 voices or multiple perspectives, it just adds to it. I think it's just 363 00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:38.519 beautiful. Like, I think that's really important. And like you know, 364 00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:45.440 companies like Indicator and Arrow and stuff with the booklets, so like it's just 365 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:49.240 all amazing. And Keno Lab are just churning out such stunning, beautiful films 366 00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:55.160 and constantly having a film critic or an academic or historian doing a commentary, 367 00:25:55.480 --> 00:26:00.480 and they're always uniquely different and like well suited to the film and divert so 368 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:03.559 you can jump from you know, someone being on this Western from the fifties 369 00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:07.079 to some eighties horror film. Beautiful. I think that's that's that's the real 370 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:11.480 cinephilia, where people just love everything and do all this incredible eclectic work. 371 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:15.079 And then of course you have specialists. Okay, here is the blah blah 372 00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.440 blah, we need to get this person because I write a book on that. 373 00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:21.640 Yeah, I just it's really cool, and I think you're right. 374 00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:26.599 It's like all about that nourishing experience of having a release that's really meaty and 375 00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:32.599 you know, filled with you know, all this stuff, and Imprint is 376 00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:36.759 doing it right. There's been some highlights this year for me. You've already 377 00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:38.640 mentioned one of the big ones. Kat Ellinger is a friend of mine. 378 00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:44.400 First of all, she's incredible, and some of her Imprint visual essays this 379 00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:48.960 year have been remarkable. She did one on Ken Russell's Horror that was mind 380 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:52.039 blowing that I just watched. The one that she did on Nastasia Kinski on 381 00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:56.440 the Harem release. It is just incredible. And I'm curious if you would 382 00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:00.799 share your basically your your method when you're doing something like a visual essay. 383 00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:03.559 How much time does it take? How much work do you put into it, 384 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:07.319 because first of all, a lot of people still don't watch all these 385 00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:11.000 features, and I just I want to give the idea of appreciating the art 386 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:14.000 that we have in front of us, because yes, it's a film. 387 00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:17.160 Yes the film is probably the biggest deal on the disc, but all these 388 00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:18.640 other things that go with it takes a lot of time and a lot of 389 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:23.359 work and a lot of education for people like yourself that have this this wealth 390 00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:26.480 of knowledge, and it is I don't want to put the people down, 391 00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:30.720 but it's you're just leaving something on the table that there's no reason to if 392 00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:33.839 you're not, you know, appreciating the entire package. Well, that's probably 393 00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:37.599 their time as well, Like how much time do you have to what? 394 00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.000 I got this going to commentary to listen to it to Like that's why I 395 00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:45.759 always find those people who do reviews. Yeah, that's their job to go 396 00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:47.799 through it. I was like, that's a mat I love that job. 397 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:52.559 But yeah, so video, I love visual essays and I reckon I don't 398 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:56.880 know, I haven't done not a few. I see quite a few for 399 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:00.839 Eureka, but I love them. And the reason I love doing them is 400 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:03.720 because you can just hone in on a focus and you can just concentrate on 401 00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:08.920 that and it's like fifteen to twenty minutes. That's beautiful. Not that I'm 402 00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:15.599 saying I love doing commentaries, but that's a lot of work. Commentaries is 403 00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:18.240 a lot of work, and it's and it's always fab I love it. 404 00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:22.400 And I never say no to gigs, but you know, unless I go, 405 00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:25.519 oh no, that person would be there for that one. But blah 406 00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:29.240 blah, but commentaries is a lot of work. Well, that's a couple, 407 00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:33.000 you know, A few weeks of heavy duty work. But video essays, 408 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:36.319 as far as I'm concerned, if you if you're doing it something that 409 00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:40.640 you're kind of really familiar with, or it's something that's you know, pretty 410 00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:42.519 second nature, or like you just get it, I reckon for me, 411 00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:45.640 I don't know how to weigh up a time living on it. I don't 412 00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:48.599 know how Cat works. I know Cat's very prolific as well, but I 413 00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:52.480 reckon maybe a good three solid days. So you just sort of want to 414 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:57.119 curate your idea, map it out, have it all thought out, and 415 00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:02.559 then do some you know, heavy duty extensive research for like one day or 416 00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:04.519 something, and then just write it out. And it's just nice to be 417 00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:10.680 able to pitch ideas to companies for video essays because they seldom come to you 418 00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:12.559 and go, we want a video say on this. They'll just ask you 419 00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:18.519 what do you think? So even like when it's really nice when a company 420 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:22.960 asks you what you think should be done for the release? And Cat and 421 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:25.640 I always talk about this, and which is something that we actually do really 422 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:27.559 love And it's not wanky to say this, but we really love giving people 423 00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:30.519 jobs. We really I fucking love it. I love the idea of like 424 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:33.839 sharing, Like if you don't share, like, what's the point of being 425 00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:37.359 a human. But anyway, so me and Kat always love to share work 426 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:42.000 or give work a point work. So when I got a resurrection, I 427 00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:45.160 was like, Josh is like, oh, we need a video, like 428 00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:48.400 how about cat Alenger doing a video essay on healing in movies? And then 429 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:52.440 he goes, done, let's do it. So She's done that and I 430 00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:56.519 can't wait to heal see and see that. But it's the Yeah, it's 431 00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:59.559 just that whole thing where you just pitch an idea and these companies are so 432 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.480 awesome if they go that sounds great. So like, you know, Eureka 433 00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.359 did ed allan Poe thing with the black cat on it, and I was 434 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.359 like, let me do a video essay on cats in horror. So I've 435 00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:14.640 got to do that and that was awesome fun. So that was already in 436 00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:17.079 my bag, you know, being an animal horror guy. So I was 437 00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:21.640 like, oh yeah, but yeah, the sex work in musicals was so 438 00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:25.160 fun and it's really grim. So it's really interesting because Best of the Hall 439 00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:30.079 House in Texas is probably one of the only musicals about post sex workers that 440 00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:36.000 it is like everything else every other musical that a sex work or sex workers 441 00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:40.319 is devastating. They always either die or they're kill right, So I did 442 00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:45.400 this video essay where it was just grim and then how you know that, 443 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.160 Yeah, well that's that's what happens, right, this is the this is 444 00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:52.000 the thing. So that was really cool to work on. And then it 445 00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:56.559 kind of justice. It's an a juxtaposed with this film. It's quite you 446 00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:59.599 know, bubbly, but the other things, you know. Doing video essay 447 00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:04.400 on uh, the dead Zone for infre that was awesome fun because what I 448 00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:10.920 pitched was the connection between the Dead Zone and Kujo and how there's a link 449 00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:15.440 and so it was basically about the frank Dog thing and how Kuja was supposedly 450 00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:18.799 the reincarnation of Franklin. So I got to do that and that was great 451 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.359 because that's something that adds another I feel like, adds another layer to the 452 00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:26.279 Dead Zone experience. So the King Universe. But yeah, no, I 453 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:30.480 love video essays. I really love them. And there's all these other people 454 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:33.720 in the industry who haven't done them yet and they're like clamoring to do and 455 00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:37.920 I'm like, just calm down, you'll get you, you'll get it. 456 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:44.200 The the Boxer Burt release that we've alluded to quite a few times already. 457 00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:48.640 Was astonishing to see it get announced because it's it's another one where some of 458 00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:51.960 the films in there have not always been super easy to see. But then 459 00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:56.240 the response to it that that thing sold out like immediately right when it was 460 00:31:56.240 --> 00:32:00.279 posted. Basically, I am just amazed that that sort of thing, even 461 00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:05.000 in twenty twenty two, is still getting that sort of response and just so 462 00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:14.319 fortunate. That's so bod and thank you. The other thing about the release 463 00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:15.799 that came out at the same time that I worked on that Ben as well 464 00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:20.319 got me on was The Wrong Turn Blu Ray, which is, you know, 465 00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:23.759 a modern film because you know me, I don't really watch anything made 466 00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:30.640 after two thousand, but the SA lot to do and that was so much 467 00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:34.359 fun. That was hillbilly horror, so like you know, out of the 468 00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:37.759 you know, the backwater kind of horror stuff, and that was fun to 469 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:42.000 work on and that I think sold out straight away as well. That went 470 00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.839 crazy. Yeah, So so there you go. You can never really guess 471 00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:51.640 which ones do really well. I think, yeah, amazing, but Umbrella, 472 00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:55.720 yeah, they're doing incredible stuff. And Imprint just constantly amazing stuff and 473 00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:59.920 like you said, the idea of going and getting stuff that has never been 474 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:02.640 at least like the Possession of Joel Delaney, like that was amazing. And 475 00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:08.039 also a shout out to Alissa Rose, a good friend of mine who is 476 00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:13.759 a costume historian. So the idea of like having her input on a video 477 00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:19.319 essay just solely focusing on costume, like that's vital. No one's doing that, 478 00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.440 you know, and that's amazing, and that she'll be doing things from 479 00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:25.160 like, you know, something like seventies, like Joeldane it's on the beach, 480 00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:29.359 and so you know, that's that's vital, Like it's all that stuff's 481 00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:35.200 really invaluable. I think it's it's really important. I agree. And the 482 00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:40.359 amount of Australian releases that seem to be permeating across the world is escalating for 483 00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:45.759 some reason, like Imprint getting more popular, Umbrella getting more popular. To 484 00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:49.559 those companies, does it feel like they're getting bigger globally down there? Do 485 00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.920 you feel that that sort of growth happening right now? And you'd have to 486 00:33:52.960 --> 00:34:02.440 ask the bosom to the sales right like and I know I do know that 487 00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:07.839 when I you know, when you cruise all the the you know the fu 488 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:12.320 what they call the boards. People know about your print the umbrella. Yeah, 489 00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:15.360 they kind of go did you get this? And people buy stuff. 490 00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:20.880 And you've got people like Tony Mikis and Ryan Kendall and that who run the 491 00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:24.360 things like the you know, the Imprint podcast, so you see how people 492 00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:29.880 tune into that and then the sales of those titles go and then you know, 493 00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:32.880 Imprint do sometimes you know, the limited run and they just get snatched 494 00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:37.639 up really quickly or they do really well. So you know, sometimes I 495 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:40.800 get an insight, but it's not my job too. It's like I hope 496 00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:45.760 they sell, you know, like, yeah, I guess it's like any 497 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:50.119 business. But I feel like just from seeing what people are buying and just 498 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:54.000 put people post that they're doing. Okay, That's what I would like to 499 00:34:54.320 --> 00:35:00.840 say, is that more shops need to host physical media. Yeah. That's 500 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:06.159 my big issue. So yeah, you know, because I I work in 501 00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:12.760 retail. Well yeah, yeah, anyway, but retailers need shelf space for 502 00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:19.000 movies and it's really it's really not good that they don't because the shop experience, 503 00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.400 you know, and also like a lot of older people don't go online. 504 00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:29.400 So I used to work at a DVD shop ages ago, and eighty 505 00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.920 percent of the clientele who physically bought stuff, who were just in there going, 506 00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:37.000 oh what's this or this is too expensive? Eighty percent of them were 507 00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:42.760 seniors. They've had their kids, the kids and our adults, they've got 508 00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:45.880 grandkids. They're on their own. It's either them as a couples or on 509 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.079 their own, and they want to spend the rest of their years watching the 510 00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:52.800 old westerns. They watched all their old musicals, and I freaking loved those 511 00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:55.079 people. They were beautiful and it was really lovely to be able to talk 512 00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:59.119 to them about classics. And they bought stuff all the time. Now, 513 00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:02.000 if they go into a and there's no films displayed, they're not going to 514 00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:05.920 go online. And know that, you know, the Deanna Durban box sets. 515 00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:07.440 So when you have, like, you know, a twenty year old 516 00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:12.599 going, I just bought the freaking Freda Stev that's great, good on you, 517 00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:15.960 keep it going. But I want that woman in her seventies who would 518 00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:19.559 never go online, you know. So it's a bit agist and it's a 519 00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:22.760 bit classist. So I'm just sort of a bit I get a bit pissed 520 00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:27.920 off at that because I think having them displayed in a shop where these elderly 521 00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:31.960 people who can actually talk staff who knows stuff, that's also really important. 522 00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:37.800 And I think, yeah, that's gone. That's gone from the from Australia 523 00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:38.679 at least, I don't know what it's like in the States, but yeah, 524 00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:45.840 in Melbourne there's like very few stores that's hew host movies and I think 525 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:51.000 that's fucked. Yeah, and it's mostly gone here. There are a couple 526 00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:57.079 standouts that are pretty well known, even just through collectors. Across the country. 527 00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.280 There's a handful of physical stores that if you were, you know, 528 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.440 going on some sort of pilgrimage, you could you could go to these specific 529 00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:06.440 things. But other than that, it's not like you can just hop into 530 00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:09.840 a corner shop and purchase one of these boutique releases. Which it's sad, 531 00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:15.320 and the way that we're able to get these titles out there is completely diminished 532 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.320 if it's all going to be online, because so many people, like you 533 00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.440 said, they literally can't access online. They won't access online. It's just 534 00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:27.239 not something that they think of. Yeah, and also like it's racist, 535 00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:30.519 like there's a lot of people who don't speak English and stuff like that. 536 00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:32.159 You know who want to sit this film and love them and grew up with 537 00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:36.559 them, but they don't do internet. Like it's okay that people don't go 538 00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:40.039 online. So like you know, when the fucking plague was happening, like 539 00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:43.480 I mean it's still happening, but when it was like in full throttle and 540 00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:46.280 everyone was expected to be at home on laptop. Sorry, you know everyone 541 00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:51.360 has them. But yeah, the other thing, yeah, the other thing 542 00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:58.920 that the brick and mortar thing with shops is that oh my god, my 543 00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:01.559 brain, it's is that the the other the flip side, sorry, that 544 00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:07.760 the flip of it. So there's people who buy shitloads of movies, lets 545 00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:09.400 them, we love you, my blah blah, but they would never go 546 00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:14.960 to a store, right because they don't want to pay the retail price because 547 00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:20.039 I don't want to like support a shop has bills and staff. So it's 548 00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:22.480 like, well, you know, if you want to support these things when 549 00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:24.800 you can play and there's no shops, well you need to actually pay that 550 00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:30.480 extra ten dollars or you know, like stial with it. So that's the 551 00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:36.239 other the other flip side, just just humans. Yeah, it's tough and 552 00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:40.079 Australia seems to be like GB Highfi seems to be the biggest deal, at 553 00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:45.159 least from the outside view, but they only do local so JB High Fight, 554 00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:52.079 only stock Umbrella and Imprint. They won't stop Arrow and Keino No, 555 00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:58.079 and that's uh. Yeah, you are severely limiting yourself when you're doing something 556 00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:01.480 like that because it's region coding. I mean, that's one of the biggest 557 00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:07.039 problems. And obviously Australian releases most of them are region free for some reason, 558 00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:09.400 they get away with it and that's great, but yeah, it would 559 00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:15.320 be nice to see other cultures and true diversity being able to permeate. And 560 00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:20.559 also most people who like buy these things they all have multi zones. But 561 00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:22.280 that was the big conversation at the shop right, I was like, now 562 00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.800 do you have a Malti zone? And you have to explain that to them, 563 00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:28.840 which is fine, and then you go, okay, if your player 564 00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:31.840 is one of these brands, you open the train, you type in and 565 00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:36.400 when it was gorgeous, it was really cute because when these people in their 566 00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:39.679 seventies, eighties and stuff found out they could play everything, it was there. 567 00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:43.320 They were just in heaven. It was really beautiful, and I do 568 00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:46.119 miss you know that woman that comes in and goes, I saw a movie 569 00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:50.000 and blah blah blahl was in it, and you know, Ginger Rogers plays 570 00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:52.320 a lawyer and they go, yes, that's this one, and they get 571 00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:55.960 excited and they'll you know, hate by it, like that's it's just beautiful, 572 00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:00.199 you know, like that kind of thing is that's precious. As far 573 00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:07.320 as like movie share, sharing movie love with people who are older, I 574 00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:12.239 think that's I think that's really lovely. The hard part is we need to 575 00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:15.840 be able to pay somebody that has that sort of movie knowledge to work at 576 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:20.039 a shop like that, and nowadays that's damn near impossible to do. To 577 00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:23.320 get somebody to work there. That can help a myriad of different types of 578 00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:27.000 people that are coming in searching for information because a lot of the time those 579 00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:30.840 people know more than the workers. Yeah, and I do. I will 580 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:34.320 stand by the ageism and classism of it all, I really do. I 581 00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:37.239 think it's like there's a lot of people in their twenties who are from middle 582 00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:40.800 class backgrounds who don't give a shit about movies, or for that matter, 583 00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:46.199 probably don't even give a shit about the arts in general, who who are 584 00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:52.840 old shit or they say things like you know, no one buys that anymore. 585 00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:55.159 It's like, all right, well you're wrong, So those people, 586 00:40:55.840 --> 00:41:00.079 those people should not have any fucking say those people to just do that thing 587 00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:02.760 and just you know, live off mommy and daddy's money and go away, 588 00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:07.079 because it's the people who actually care. I think it's I think film is 589 00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:10.400 actually about community as well, and I think that's really important. I think 590 00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:15.840 it's like that, you know, the sort of insular collector who shops and 591 00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:20.400 hoards. Yeah, call good on you, because you're keeping things alive. 592 00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:23.800 That's great, but you also need to you know, share an experience together. 593 00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:27.679 I think it's really important. I do. I think like that's why 594 00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:31.320 film collectives and film societies, bringing people together, building community, people doing 595 00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:39.119 stuff, people sharing that kind of real kind of social networking between people. 596 00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:43.559 I think that's really important. It's like it's actually really healthy, and it 597 00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:47.440 makes the industries thrive rather than just you know, keeping it in your own 598 00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:52.599 space. I think yeah. And if you're going to do that, I 599 00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:55.400 mean, there are ways that you can do something around these communities all online 600 00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:59.719 if you're not going to be able to go out and if you live in 601 00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:04.199 the midst and your community doesn't have that, you can find a community online 602 00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:08.880 to them brief yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's also just about conversation, 603 00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:12.679 like talking to other people that movies. It doesn't even have to be 604 00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:16.119 about events. It's just it's just about you know, like this whole idea 605 00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:21.159 of talking to other people who love movies or if they don't love movies, 606 00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:25.639 talking to people and showcasing your love for movies and that might spark you know, 607 00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:31.239 connection, and also not being judgmental or assuming things like it's funny like 608 00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:34.559 you know, people go, ah, Lee, you love this person. 609 00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:37.719 They're into the same movies, and I end up meeting this person I don't 610 00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:44.480 actually like them. But then you might meet someone who doesn't give a shit 611 00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:46.320 about films and they can't they go, oh my god, tell me more, 612 00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:50.599 and they get more excited. And also, like I think there's also 613 00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:54.199 the tunnel vision thing where which drives me crazy, like sinophilia to a lot 614 00:42:54.199 --> 00:43:00.599 of people think is assumed to be one kind of film. It's like so 615 00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:02.639 and you know, like the horror community, and I'll use that term broadly. 616 00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.519 You know, the idea is everyone's into the same fucking ten horror films. 617 00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:13.039 It's like have you seen come on? You know, it's not just 618 00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:17.920 black T shirts, you know, like come on, like let's let's see 619 00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:22.000 beyond Freddy and I love Freddy to death, but come on. So there's 620 00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:29.679 that kind of thing as well. And then also the weird people who just 621 00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:36.440 have a weird, disinteresting stuff that was made, you know, in the 622 00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:38.719 thirties and forties, like what's that? There's people, you know, there's 623 00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:43.920 a lot of shit, like it just drives people who snub an entire genre. 624 00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:47.159 Oh I don't like that. I like, there's so how is one 625 00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:52.159 Western like the other? How is one musical? Like how is Fiddler on 626 00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:57.920 the Roof like Cabaret? Tell me? But what's similar? Nothing? You 627 00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:00.440 know, so this whole thing, you know, and the connection would be 628 00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:04.840 the thematics. It's about people about to die, you know. So there's 629 00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:07.960 all this. So all this stuff drives me mad. So I don't think 630 00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:13.400 people need to love more things. I am the exact same way about foreign 631 00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:15.440 films. The amount of times that I've tried to recommend something to somebody and 632 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:17.480 they say, well, I don't want to read the movie, I just 633 00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:21.719 want to watch it, Like, well, you're completely limiting yourself. There's 634 00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:24.360 so much beautiful cinema out in the world that you are just completely turning your 635 00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:29.400 back to for no reason. Yeah, and it's funny that we're still calling 636 00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:37.400 it foreign, you know, like right, yep, that shows my privilege 637 00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:42.559 right there. Yeah, it's exactly what we grew up. Yeah, that's 638 00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:45.440 right. But yeah, it's tricky. I mean, it's really tricky to 639 00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:49.599 get people to love what you love, and sometimes you just can't. And 640 00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.920 I remember, like when it's funny, like because you do the thing where 641 00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:58.480 you kind of go, well, if it's something I really love and it's 642 00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:00.719 just for me, then that's okay. Like when Olivia Newton John passed away, 643 00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:04.800 I did a post going, you know, Greece was really important to 644 00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:07.880 me as a kid, and if no one else understands that, that's fine, 645 00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:12.920 because when she does that moment in this film, or when that happens 646 00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:15.079 in the movie, or whatever is happening with Greece, that could just be 647 00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:20.039 for me and that's okay, you know. Yeah, it put me and 648 00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:22.000 my dog Buddy just watching Greece and that's okay. No one else has to 649 00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:25.880 like Greece, but so that's that as well. So I think if things 650 00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:30.599 are personal for people and it's okay, but it is nice when you go, 651 00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:34.519 oh, come and see this movie and then they go, fuck, 652 00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:37.119 that was amazing. I've never thought of see that. I've never seen that, 653 00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.800 so well, yeah, just trust. So that's the beauty of cinemaniac. 654 00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:45.440 So I can go, you know, trust my programming, come and 655 00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:47.440 see this, I reckon, you'll dig it. And so you get people 656 00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:52.039 who would never go and see you know, some melodrama from the fifties, 657 00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:54.599 and they'll go and go, wow, that was really for a long ago. 658 00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:59.079 Well yeah, you know. So that's the other thing as well. 659 00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:02.679 I think there's film culture is really weird. I think it's either or it's 660 00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:09.880 either like you and I and our kind of mass diverse community, or it's 661 00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:15.480 people who don't actually care and they just let things like get fed to them 662 00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:22.480 like the Netflix series. And I don't think that's a culture. It's really 663 00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:27.679 NTO. No, it's people like an algorithm. Yeah, it's like I'm 664 00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:32.079 dealing with mainstream sit like it's like same as music, Like are you seriously 665 00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:36.840 going to listen to the top forty? Like you're not going to think of 666 00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:40.519 it? Yeah, it's it's a waste. There's a big difference between algorithm 667 00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:46.599 algorithm programming and in a human film element behind it. Because film programming in 668 00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:50.079 itself is an art form. There's so much that goes into it to be 669 00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:54.360 able to to curate for the masses in a way that is acceptable for everybody, 670 00:46:54.519 --> 00:47:00.840 entertaining for everybody, and can be contextually important for a completely different culture 671 00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:02.559 at that time. So you can really, can you explain to me, 672 00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:07.039 because can you explain to me the algorithm thing for netflick? So is that 673 00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:12.840 the thing where it sort of says, oh, you just watched yeah, 674 00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:15.800 and you might lock these? Is that what it is? Yeah, So 675 00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:21.599 they have computer programs that are built to like Spiderweb different films out. So 676 00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:24.679 if one film is something that you obviously watched, maybe you've watched it a 677 00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:28.440 few times, and they can say, oh, you must really like and 678 00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:30.760 they make broad assumption. So you watched, you watched a nightmare on Elm 679 00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:35.239 Street, you must obviously like all eighty slashers. So we're gonna recommend all 680 00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:37.159 of them to you. And Okay, maybe that works for some people, 681 00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:40.559 but for others, maybe that was, you know, researching for a video 682 00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:45.239 essay. Now you don't want anything like that, So now your entire algorithm 683 00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:49.639 is shot because that's nothing like what you're actually gonna want. Right, So, 684 00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:52.840 if someone's watching diverse stuff on Netflix that that would fuck up with their 685 00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:58.639 computer, it absolutely can. Yeah, the the the Netflix side of things 686 00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:01.559 that cannot know what to recommend you. It could just show you everything across 687 00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:07.000 the board. There's sometimes people don't even know that new releases are out because 688 00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:09.440 they don't watch things that are related to that, even though it might exactly 689 00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:14.320 interest them. So they get screwed out of art that could be made for 690 00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:20.280 their interest entirely because I picked up, like, I've watched a lot of 691 00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:24.400 docos and I will never say disc so there'll be documentaries on these things, 692 00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:30.760 all right, just fucking I'll sign up for the free thing and just so 693 00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:34.760 there's things like that, and then it's like, oh my god, that 694 00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:38.960 doc was stunning. Why isn't it going to give the release? Yeah? 695 00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:42.800 I do the same thing. A lot of what I stream are documentaries and 696 00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:45.199 you can't find them anywhere else. And because of that, they recommend all 697 00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:49.760 the documentaries. But most of my friends they've never heard of them because they 698 00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:52.559 don't ever see those on their algorithms. Got it? Yeah, and even 699 00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:57.599 like, like I wanted to check out the normally reinvention of one Day at 700 00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.679 a time, and that the only way to say it was on Netflix. 701 00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:05.000 So I did that thing that people called binge, so I actually did. 702 00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:06.760 I was like, oh, this is fine, this is fine. So 703 00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:08.320 New Takes, you know, the Latin X version of you know, the 704 00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:13.079 Study. I loved it. I love Rida Marino beautiful. So I watched 705 00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:15.960 that guy, this is excellent, But why just just put it on fucking 706 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:22.800 dvd? Yeah, because they like glitches at best, like it's horrible, 707 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:29.480 Like streaming is awful, like I'm sorry, it's really hard and so like 708 00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:32.320 even like but thank god, shut up. Bless them. They released the 709 00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:37.880 horror noir Blu ray, which I have right there. That and the the 710 00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:44.000 Fridakin one Leap of Faith. So they released the thing, and you know, 711 00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:46.199 I'm friends with Brian Fuller and I you need to make sure that freaking 712 00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:52.800 the Queen one has a disc release because people who are really like, people 713 00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:55.679 who actually love that ship want to own it. I agree. I am 714 00:49:55.760 --> 00:50:00.000 dying to get that one on disc because I watched the first episode on show, 715 00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:02.639 and I'm waiting for the disc so I can support that. Yeah, 716 00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:07.159 it was a great series. Did you want You only saw the first episode, 717 00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:09.079 yes, and it was enough to make me go, damn it, 718 00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:14.800 I absolutely will pay money to hold this in my hand. Yeah. Yeah, 719 00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:17.519 keep following it up though, because my favorite episode is actually the last 720 00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:22.480 one of that series, of that season, which is all about the sort 721 00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:29.679 of killer lesbian, killer bisexual woman trope, and it goes, it goes 722 00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:34.840 really good places, like even like the whole wave of the two girls, 723 00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:37.840 you know, the psychotic coupling of girls in the nineties, that whole wave 724 00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.039 of things like heavenly creatures and stuff. So yeah, it's cool. Yeah. 725 00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:45.400 Yeah. Shutter is kind of like quietly killing it with the documentaries they've 726 00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:47.960 been doing the last few years. They are really diving deep into some of 727 00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:52.960 these themes that not a lot of people in the horror community seem to want 728 00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:57.559 to, and it seems to be this interesting underbelly of fans because for a 729 00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:01.760 while people kind of bagged about how welcoming and accepting horror was, but no 730 00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:07.119 reality, it wasn't that welcome or accepting. They they didn't give opportunities to 731 00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:10.719 the people that they really deserve to get to some of those opportunities. It 732 00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:15.480 ended up being kind of very similar eblist and classist to a lot of people. 733 00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:20.800 And it seems like nowadays we are finally shining a light on some of 734 00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:23.559 the creators that really deserved a little bit more of a of a chance back 735 00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:31.800 there, especially when like something like horror is so classically traditionally for marginalized people, 736 00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:36.320 working class people, and you know, they were you know, like 737 00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:42.320 I love those old photos of seeing the lineups at Frankenstein and it's women of 738 00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:45.320 the cues are all women, you know, like it was, you know, 739 00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:47.199 women at home going to the movie, saving their pennies to go to 740 00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:51.440 a film during the depression. But it's yeah, so that kind of things 741 00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:55.119 are interesting. But also you mentioned Shutter giving opportunities to filmmakers to do stuff 742 00:51:55.159 --> 00:52:00.039 with them, but they also acquire stuff that's already made that's excellent, like 743 00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:05.840 Kaylor's folk horror docco which could have gone an extra ten hours, like you 744 00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:09.360 know, however, I think it's like five hours less. That's excellent and 745 00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:14.480 that you know, wow, like my god, and like the way she 746 00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:20.400 structured it, like I was geographical every talking head was like just brilliant, 747 00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:23.280 Like it was just a beautiful meeting documentary that you could pause and go all 748 00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:27.559 right, you know, take your dog from wall, come back and keep 749 00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:32.639 it watching. Just stunning. It reminded me of Tommy Hudson's Elm Street One 750 00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:37.679 goes for four hours stunning. So yeah, amazing, amazing stuff. So 751 00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:39.960 yeah, I love that there's a platform like Shutter. So I'm not a 752 00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:45.679 I'm not anti streamers. I'm just like, just have content that's awesome, 753 00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:52.000 which the ones that do have the docos beautiful, but also please put them 754 00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:57.039 on disc. So when like Disclosure came on, I think that was a 755 00:52:57.079 --> 00:53:00.599 Netflix thing, So my friend Jenny Olsen was producer on that. That was 756 00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:06.440 stunning. So the trans representation in film history, film and TV just beautiful, 757 00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:09.320 great talking heads. You know, Liver Cocks, et cetera. That 758 00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:14.079 needs to be on disc. You know, after it's played out on Netflix, 759 00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:17.239 where's it going to go just disappears. It's no, like that needs 760 00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:22.800 to exhibit it's really important, Like that's life saving. Same as like when 761 00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:27.800 Peacock, I think was Peacock did The Visible, which was like LGBT representation 762 00:53:27.880 --> 00:53:30.800 in TV history which was freckent phenomenal. If you haven't seen it, it's 763 00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:35.719 six parts, I think, and it goes right back from like late late 764 00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:42.480 forties to now and it's it's so deep and really moving and like is really 765 00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:45.599 clever and the way it's structured, because I remember first seeing it going, 766 00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:49.159 I'm going to be in tears and love all these episodes until it gets to 767 00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:52.159 later times, I'm not going to care. But they were clever because what 768 00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:54.760 they did was say, for instance, when they got to a later episode, 769 00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:59.400 they would talk about say, bisexual representation in television, and they'd bring 770 00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:01.559 in tax then, so it's like, oh, fuck, you know you 771 00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:05.800 bring They're bringing all this older stuff. So they're very clever. They kept 772 00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:08.480 you know, nerds like maybe like classic TV all the way through. And 773 00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:14.760 it's one of the best series about you know, TV history or film history 774 00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.239 ever that needs a dis release. So there's all that stuff, you know, 775 00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:22.400 like I'm looking forward to all these you know, the representation of in 776 00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:25.880 horror stuff that's I know is coming out. But yeah, there's a lot 777 00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:30.519 of good, good doc o stuff. I love it because it's all archive 778 00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:34.760 and clips and you know that stuff. I just eat it up. I 779 00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:42.840 loved. Sorry I'm ravinging on but the recent the one about black representation, 780 00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:45.760 which is pretty much like a video say, but he had, you know, 781 00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:51.559 fabulous Antonia Fargas and Laurence Fishburne. There's a couple of whoopee. But 782 00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:54.079 it was amazing. That was just recent. That's on Netflix. I just 783 00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:58.639 know. I learned about that because friends of mine posted on Facebook, what 784 00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:00.559 the hell is this? This looks amazing where you and it was Netflix. 785 00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:06.840 I had to go and do a Netflix. But that's another thing that needs 786 00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:12.360 a dog disc release because I've got like shelves of docos and obviously doccos about 787 00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:16.320 movies. You know, there are a lot that are just living and dying 788 00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:22.960 on streaming and they're going to be forgotten fairly quickly, which is sad for 789 00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:25.880 the people that can, you know, consume that, but also it's sad 790 00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:29.840 for the creators the amount of time and work that goes into these to just 791 00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:36.199 have him be lost into the ether they're gone. Basically, I'm sure you're 792 00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:40.000 friends with him as well. But John Campopiono did the Itat documentary that anyone 793 00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:45.159 else and that just got studying, like everyone needs to own that, you 794 00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:51.039 know, like that can't just live in a streaming service and then disappear like 795 00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:55.880 that's got on camera alone with Tim Curry, you know, like sorry, 796 00:55:57.039 --> 00:56:00.880 like this is a man anyway, blah blah blah. But it's just that 797 00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:05.719 whole thing of like the longevity, the the eternity of having a disc. 798 00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:09.119 You know, I've still hold held on to all most of my DVDs because 799 00:56:09.159 --> 00:56:13.400 a lot of them actually have content on it that you don't get again. 800 00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:17.400 And also i'd buy a lot of TV stuff, and I know there's it's 801 00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:22.960 going to be never or in years to come when Hill Street Blues gets a 802 00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:27.400 Blue ray relief, you know. So I'm happy with DVDs because they look 803 00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:31.360 fine. You know, I'm not too precious about whatever, but you know 804 00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:36.159 you're not going to get moored on Blu ray looking better than how it was 805 00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:39.880 shot, Like it's fine to have it on that beautiful shout factory release is 806 00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:43.239 done it. You know, so a lot of stuff I'll hold on to 807 00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:46.119 you. And also it's funny, I don't know you're probably I don't know 808 00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:50.320 how you are. I'll have to ask you. But when a Blu Ray, 809 00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:52.079 if something comes out and you've already got on DVDA do you need And 810 00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:55.639 I'm like, oh fuck, and you kind of resting with that, and 811 00:56:55.960 --> 00:56:59.360 most of the times I'm like, yes, I'll buy the blue. But 812 00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:04.119 I don't know what's your thought because a lot of it, Yeah, there 813 00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:07.400 are some of these things. I've got three and four copies because not only 814 00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:09.800 are there certain features that are on other ones, but first of all, 815 00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:14.800 I've watched that disc fifteen times. I don't want to just give that away 816 00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:19.199 just yet. It's a part of me. I know, I know it's 817 00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:24.239 weird. It's basically an extension of my personality at that point. I know, 818 00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:30.480 yeah, you remember it's weird, but you remember when you bought it. 819 00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:34.480 You remember when you know they do they have that kind of especially if 820 00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:38.280 you do, like because I do the seasonal viewing, so like a style 821 00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:45.639 do you know God's spell and fucking you know the being? You know? 822 00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:50.320 Oh but it is true, you know, and they just have everybody so 823 00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:52.320 you remember, oh that was last A said that that happened, Like, 824 00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:55.239 you know, it's weird, but also you're right, it's like, I 825 00:57:55.239 --> 00:57:59.679 don't want to give that away. Actually, like that'ster Like probably seven copies 826 00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:01.880 of my Rizzley, like, do what, I don't need that many fucking 827 00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:07.280 copies, and you kind of go, maybe I'll give it away to you 828 00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:09.599 know, because we do raffle, we do prizes at Cinemaniacts. Maybe I'll 829 00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:14.280 donate it. I don't want it even now, like we're doing An Unmarried 830 00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:19.000 Woman on Friday. And I bought the box set of Mary Tyler Moore from 831 00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:22.159 the US, but in Australia we had them out ages ago from Madman. 832 00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:27.760 They put it out and I've got those. I think I bought three seasons 833 00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:30.679 from mad Man, but now I can retire them because I've got the full 834 00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:34.960 box set from the States with all the features, and the three of those 835 00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:37.079 Mary Chyler more sets are going to go in the prizing. And still I'm 836 00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:40.960 like, oh, which is like I don't fucking need I've got them, 837 00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:45.159 right, you know. And maybe And also what my brain's going is forget 838 00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:50.000 the fucking holding onto them because you've already got them. But also how cool 839 00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:52.400 it will be if someone has never seen Mary tylerm or wins it and watches 840 00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:58.320 it and falls in love with that show and all that show, you know. 841 00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:02.159 So yeah, if they're like a maybe a young woman who's never watched 842 00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:07.239 seventies feminist television saying something so revolutionary, you know. But anyway, so 843 00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:14.400 that's you hope that happened well, and that touches on something that I really 844 00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:17.119 wish people saw is more important in twenty twenty two. And that's just this 845 00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:22.400 idea of accessibility. We have. We have the resources to do so much 846 00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:27.800 with this art, and a lot of them that they're just held captive by 847 00:59:27.880 --> 00:59:31.320 greed. They're they're held you know, or or people that they don't even 848 00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:34.480 know they have the rights to some of these things. So some of these 849 00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:37.320 movies are never going to be able to get released because we can't find who 850 00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:42.400 owns the rights or film elements. And that all calls back to the important 851 00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:45.480 thing at the beginning, which is archiving a lot of this, which is 852 00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:50.480 why physical media is so damn important. Yeah, definitely, I was so 853 00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:55.119 happy to say lots of the relays of Alligata, I think Justin. Justin 854 00:59:55.159 --> 01:00:00.599 did a fucking awesome job with that relate. It's beautiful. But yeah, 855 01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:04.960 thank god that got a release and it has the two cuts and oh, 856 01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:08.880 just stunning, because that was that was one that when you mentioned that that 857 01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:13.960 that comes to mind that was wrapped up in a lot of right stuff and 858 01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:17.440 also like you know, licensing rights and music rights stuff like looking for mister 859 01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:20.639 Goodbar, Like when is that going? I said the Light of Day, 860 01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:24.480 that's something that people are clamoring, you know, another paramount title. But 861 01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:30.400 also when you mentioned the rights thing, it's really tricky and it's really interesting 862 01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:36.119 learning about that stuff because I'm doing producing work for altern Innocence and like you 863 01:00:36.119 --> 01:00:38.960 know, Frank Jaffie is a legend. He does so much amazing work with 864 01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:43.599 that label. And he'll go, oh, I'm trying to chase this title, 865 01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:45.880 and I'll go and try and hunt things down and then I'll pitch to 866 01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:49.280 him, what about these He goes, well, let's find out. So 867 01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:53.400 that whole thing is another whole world and it's amazing to do and I'm really 868 01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:58.400 happy to work for that company. It's such a good company. So important. 869 01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:01.320 Again, but Frank is the legend, amazing work and also people that 870 01:01:01.800 --> 01:01:05.599 he's associated with, like Jenny Olsen and stuff. You just do all this 871 01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:10.519 incredible work with archive, with researching who owns what you know, knowing people 872 01:01:10.599 --> 01:01:15.880 like Maya Smuckler who is at uc LA Archives. You know, all these 873 01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:22.119 people just a wealth of knowledge. Like seriously, it's even John Camp of 874 01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:25.280 course like amazing archives, that's what he does as well as being a filmmaker. 875 01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:30.639 But just that whole stuff is just incredible. Like just to have those 876 01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:35.880 people you know, an email away just to see what how that can help, 877 01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:39.679 ah, invaluable. It's beautiful. And that's why doing it now is 878 01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:43.199 so important because a lot of these people are not going to be alive much 879 01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:45.519 longer. So some of those people that held some of those rates and can 880 01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:51.599 confirm who owned something or can confirm where film elements are, we're losing some 881 01:01:51.679 --> 01:01:53.559 of that knowledge every single day. That's that's why we're going to say work. 882 01:01:55.599 --> 01:02:01.559 Yeah, and Ryan that the ernie of finding who owns the rights to 883 01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:06.599 things is insane. So when this is so this is pretty funny, I'll 884 01:02:06.599 --> 01:02:08.559 tell you a story. So years ago, it wasn't that long, vitually, 885 01:02:08.599 --> 01:02:14.599 maybe eight years ago, I entertained the idea of turning of adapting Willard 886 01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:17.360 One with the you know, Bruce Davison with the Rat into a musical or 887 01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:20.960 a stage musical. And I really you know, the idea was it was 888 01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:23.960 going to be puppetry and I had this whole SnO written down, I had 889 01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:29.559 treatments written down, I had a thick two composers in idea blah blah blah, 890 01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:30.320 and I was like, well, how do I do this? How 891 01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:37.199 do I get the right? So it went from me asking I don't even 892 01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:42.880 know where I started, but it went from like Warner Brothers to bing Crosby's 893 01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:45.880 Company, to going back to the source novel. So all this stuff. 894 01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:51.960 It ended up to get the adaptation rights to stage going to the University of 895 01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:55.760 Belfast, which is where the original novel of The Ratman's Notebooks was held, 896 01:02:57.320 --> 01:03:00.880 and they go, yes, you can do it for twenty five dollars ago, 897 01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:07.320 all right, I have that money. Good. Sorry, So twenty 898 01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:12.840 five thousand dollars So that was really interesting. Then it was like, oh 899 01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:15.880 wow, so that's that was the journey. And it took about I reckon 900 01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:19.599 I've got the email chain still eight months to find that to go through that, 901 01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:25.000 and then years later got to know Bruce Davison, became friends with Sondra 902 01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:30.159 Locke, the late great Sondra lock and I was doing all this Willard stuff 903 01:03:30.239 --> 01:03:37.679 and then the Blu Ray came out from Screen Factory and that look beautiful. 904 01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:40.159 Nathaniel. I love Nathaniel Thompson. He's a good friend and he does beautiful 905 01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:43.800 work and we give each other jobs. But yeah, he got to do 906 01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:51.719 the Willard and I was annoyed fucking stuck with Willard but that's okay and Ben 907 01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:53.440 but yeah, but he did but that was he did a beautiful job. 908 01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:58.639 And those bloody prints, my god, especially Willard, it just looks beautiful. 909 01:03:58.679 --> 01:04:00.639 I know where I'm going with that. But yeah, the whole thing 910 01:04:00.639 --> 01:04:03.960 about rights, so a lot of stuff just goes meant like it's just insane, 911 01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:06.559 like where you end up with, right. I think a lot of 912 01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:14.159 TV movie stuff that's where I really A lot of companies start to dive into 913 01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:18.719 those because like Fun City, Recking awesome. I bless them because they're doing 914 01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:24.320 some TV stuff And I did an essay for something coming up which I won't 915 01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:27.360 mention because they'll kill me, but it's gonna be a really good set. 916 01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:32.599 Yeah. I've had Jonathan on the channel and the way that he is curating 917 01:04:32.639 --> 01:04:39.000 Fun City is magical. The stuff that they're putting out every single one is 918 01:04:39.159 --> 01:04:44.079 just this stone called classic that is so underseene and people are falling in love 919 01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:46.639 again and it makes me just giddy to see people, you know, all 920 01:04:46.679 --> 01:04:49.920 of a sudden, all kinds of reviews coming in our letterbox and you can 921 01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:56.199 see the world having a their taste curated again and it's just this magic. 922 01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:01.360 Jonathan's amazing, another one. They're all all excellent, like everyone's doing such 923 01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:06.760 beautiful work. But seriously, and that's every time one of these gets announced, 924 01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:10.280 like you just said with the rates, because it's such a journey, 925 01:05:10.480 --> 01:05:15.079 it's like a victory. It's something that really should be celebrated, and it's 926 01:05:15.559 --> 01:05:17.239 I don't know, it's such a labor of love that it's really hard to 927 01:05:17.239 --> 01:05:19.920 look at it as anything. Is like, wow, we are just so 928 01:05:20.039 --> 01:05:25.039 fortunate to have every single one of these releases. I know, I know. 929 01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:29.480 I think the TV movie stuff though, that's kind of like that's where 930 01:05:29.519 --> 01:05:31.639 I record. I really want that to keep going strong, Like all those 931 01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:36.880 movies the week. Could you imagine like a really nice print of Dawn and 932 01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:43.559 Alexander and all that, just to have them all just looking stunning. Because 933 01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:51.199 Fun City when they did oh fuck the graffiti one yes, the Primetime Panic 934 01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:55.960 set, yeah, like and the one with the Carnies that was written by 935 01:05:55.960 --> 01:06:00.199 Barbara Turn like sorry, but they look just perfect, like they look stunning 936 01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:04.400 like that. Yeah, like really wow, because I remember even on television 937 01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:08.599 they looked, you know, not great. But that's just what he's done. 938 01:06:08.679 --> 01:06:13.039 Like it's amazing. There's so many filmmakers that did TV films that don't 939 01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:15.400 have their stuff out there either that people would go crazy for. I mean 940 01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:20.400 the amount of like Toby Hooper did like five other TV films that still aren't 941 01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:25.239 out there. There's so many big filmmakers that did TV stuff that could just 942 01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:30.480 see this massive resurgence and they tell me same as like Jonathan Demi with Sarah 943 01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:34.159 t Yes, that's a nice blue right that looked stunning. My god, 944 01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:39.840 was that shout factory? I think so? Yeah, But yeah, just 945 01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:44.199 really cool stuff, like so much you know, and you know, Amanda's 946 01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:46.639 work with TV movie stuff is amazing, like a book Are You in the 947 01:06:46.679 --> 01:06:49.880 House Alone? And that? You know, that's like a bible for it. 948 01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:53.920 Like, but yeah, just all that stuff, all the after school 949 01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:58.119 specials you know, like they need to be released. Yeah, you know, 950 01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:00.559 like it'd be great with Altered Inner since if they did, like I've 951 01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:03.400 been pitching it to Frank and Frank's like, you know, we'll see. 952 01:07:03.679 --> 01:07:09.480 But the idea of like doing box sets about like queer themed TV movies and 953 01:07:09.480 --> 01:07:12.039 TVs, but you know, like what if I'm gay, or what's the 954 01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:17.400 one with Scott Bayo, the Truth about Alex. They're great, you know, 955 01:07:18.559 --> 01:07:23.480 Welcome Home Bobby, They're just really cool stuff. But yeah, there's 956 01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:30.039 so much and also docs. It was so cool to see uh sealaboid closet 957 01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:33.840 getting a four K Like, that's beautiful, that's unreal. And also I 958 01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:45.800 just got my comp of the Columbia Yes because I worked hand Ah beautiful, 959 01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:49.880 that's great. Yeah, working on the Anni that was that was amazing and 960 01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:56.239 having to be shut up about that but yeah, that was very hard. 961 01:07:56.840 --> 01:08:00.519 Like I spoke to Carol Burnett and Tim Curry that's like, shut the funk 962 01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:03.400 up, like, but yeah, that was that was That was great to 963 01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:08.519 work on. And that just looks like that's incredible, And they've done the 964 01:08:08.599 --> 01:08:15.920 you know, archive stuff and just beautiful and they got in the thirties any 965 01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:18.960 film. That was cool. That was really nice. Yeah, they went 966 01:08:19.239 --> 01:08:23.760 kind of all out on this, this third version of this Columbia Classics. 967 01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:26.600 I am astonished what all they were able to get into this box set. 968 01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:30.880 I'm just now started to dive in and it's it's stupendous. I'm curious. 969 01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:36.840 Go ahead, Oh I just I was just gonna say that the people I 970 01:08:36.920 --> 01:08:42.000 work for with them are beauty. They're just beautiful as well, just awesome, 971 01:08:42.279 --> 01:08:45.560 and they get it. They understand that these classic movies is where people 972 01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:49.399 what people want because Sony, you know, they they put out the fucking 973 01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:56.680 what's his name for? They do all the superhero they do all that superhero 974 01:08:56.800 --> 01:08:59.960 stuff, right, But no, I don't know if anyone wants to buy 975 01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:05.119 or four on blue ry do they? I'm sure they're okay, but for 976 01:09:05.159 --> 01:09:13.920 the most part, you know, I agree. Sorry, uh as we 977 01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:17.439 pull it in for a landing, I would love to hear what films you 978 01:09:17.479 --> 01:09:21.239 would die to be, you know, part of the contributions for whether it's 979 01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:27.880 visual essays, commentaries other than the Willard, the Willard Rebake on four K, 980 01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:43.640 the pack, anything with his people. So I saw you posting about 981 01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:45.800 your dog saving somebody's life. What was that about? Yeah? Do you 982 01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:49.479 want another story? Yeah? Please? By all means? Yeah, So 983 01:09:50.560 --> 01:09:54.880 buddy is he loves big walks, right, So he's a terrier cross. 984 01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:58.079 So he's obsessed with like two to three hours four hours a day walking and 985 01:09:58.159 --> 01:10:01.560 running. He's very active. And there was one day where it just rained 986 01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:05.520 and buddy, we can't go out like it's raining. So he's pacing up 987 01:10:05.560 --> 01:10:09.039 and down the house and like, all right, look if it breaks, 988 01:10:09.159 --> 01:10:13.239 will go. So it broke in the we and he was not taking yess 989 01:10:13.279 --> 01:10:15.199 sorry no for an answer. So okay, dude, we're going. And 990 01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:18.479 he kept coming up. All right, put him on the lease, pasanas 991 01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:20.680 on we go out. It did break in the weather, that's fine. 992 01:10:20.760 --> 01:10:25.800 Did rain here and there. We went for a big walk around the suburbs, 993 01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:31.000 and we came around back to my street, our street here and maybe 994 01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:34.359 about four blocks up from us as this woman on her own named Olimpia, 995 01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:41.880 who's this elderly Greek lady, and Buddy like loves her, knows her. 996 01:10:43.880 --> 01:10:46.439 But this day when nuts like panicking, okay, what the hell, and 997 01:10:46.520 --> 01:10:49.239 he was bolting across the road to get to her and go all right, 998 01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:55.079 calm down, and he was barking and this is weird. And he's bolting 999 01:10:55.159 --> 01:10:59.720 to her house and jumping up on a fence frantic. His tail's going crazy. 1000 01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:02.720 Barking, and it's not a happy bark, like he's stressed. And 1001 01:11:02.760 --> 01:11:06.079 I go, okay, what's going on? She must have heard us. 1002 01:11:06.119 --> 01:11:09.960 She clearly did, and she opened the door. It's a bit graphic, 1003 01:11:10.039 --> 01:11:13.960 people, but she opened the door and she was bleeding quite severely from her 1004 01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:16.840 face. And I go okay. And I love cinema gore like on My 1005 01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:20.479 Gorehound, but real life, I can't. I just get a bit weak, 1006 01:11:21.680 --> 01:11:25.000 and I was like, oh fuck, what's going on? And Buddy's 1007 01:11:25.039 --> 01:11:28.479 like bolts towards her circles her make sure she's all right, Like he's you 1008 01:11:28.520 --> 01:11:30.960 know, panicking for her, like really, but then also company and she 1009 01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:34.920 was bleeding, and I just I stayed with her. And this was one 1010 01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:38.880 time I didn't have my freaking phone with me. And then it's luckily this 1011 01:11:38.920 --> 01:11:41.000 woman was coming down the road and I go, you need to call an 1012 01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:44.920 ambulance. So we call the ambulance. Buddy knew that she was not well, 1013 01:11:45.119 --> 01:11:48.520 and it ended up that she had like burst blood vessels in her nose 1014 01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:54.399 and she's also on these medical medicines that thinned out her blood so she couldn't 1015 01:11:55.359 --> 01:12:00.880 Yeah. Wow, So got to the ambulance that had diffused the thing and 1016 01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:03.520 then she was saved. So the next couple of days later her daughters came, 1017 01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:08.079 was all fine, but then she told her GP that you know, 1018 01:12:08.119 --> 01:12:10.720 I mean, Buddy were there and the GPS like the dog saved, the 1019 01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:15.279 dog new the dog new was stressed from that far and could sense it. 1020 01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:17.159 And yeah, that's incredible, and he stayed. But he stayed with her 1021 01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:27.800 until she was ready to go to the ambulances. Amazing. Yeah, that's 1022 01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:31.840 incredible. So to answer a question, any movie with dogs, but especially 1023 01:12:31.880 --> 01:12:35.479 things like Pack So I know that's with warners. I know one archives of 1024 01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:40.520 that beautiful Dmity, which looks stunning and much better than the video I've got 1025 01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:44.239 but a blue ray of that. But I don't think one of archives really 1026 01:12:44.279 --> 01:12:47.720 do much with features. But heaps of things, a lot of TV stuff. 1027 01:12:48.359 --> 01:12:53.439 I just love whatever, Like I'm into everything, but I would love 1028 01:12:53.560 --> 01:12:58.159 seeing things like what needs Blu ray releases? Oh, things like looking for 1029 01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:04.000 Mister Woodbar. God, there's so much what the films that you want now 1030 01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:08.640 there, I mean, there's all kinds of them. I I really love 1031 01:13:08.680 --> 01:13:12.159 a lot of the like late night movies that came out in the nineties that 1032 01:13:12.199 --> 01:13:19.079 were really like neo noir ish really high on the thrillers. Yeah, yeah, 1033 01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:23.600 like the the Imprint box sets that they're doing the after the the Neo 1034 01:13:23.640 --> 01:13:27.960 Noir Cinema box sets. They're incredible, that sort of thing that there's so 1035 01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:31.079 many that people just forget exist that they could do seven more of those box 1036 01:13:31.079 --> 01:13:35.720 sets and still be like top tier quality. Yeah, yeah, that's right. 1037 01:13:36.840 --> 01:13:43.399 I love I love its kind of half hour specials that you'd say, 1038 01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:46.079 like really early in the morning or really late at night, like the two 1039 01:13:46.199 --> 01:13:50.159 minute were Wolf. Yeah, and yeah, all those kind of things that 1040 01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:54.439 just popped up that were like, what the fuck is it's just the filler. 1041 01:13:55.399 --> 01:13:59.520 Yeah, I would love a fuck could do some great stuff with that. 1042 01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:04.520 Yeah. Another company just stunning, Like that's the thing. These companies 1043 01:14:04.520 --> 01:14:09.520 are to keep going. So I thank god we will you know, find 1044 01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:14.039 the stuff because my god like act for the Doris Wishman sets and like just 1045 01:14:14.119 --> 01:14:17.239 beautiful and like you know, something weird. All they like everyone who works 1046 01:14:17.279 --> 01:14:23.800 in this field just stella like it's really good. I'm really really blessed to 1047 01:14:23.800 --> 01:14:26.039 be part of it, to be on a small part of it. It's 1048 01:14:26.079 --> 01:14:30.199 so cool. Well, we are all blessed to have you be a part 1049 01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:31.880 of it, Lee, So thank you for your time and energy not only 1050 01:14:31.880 --> 01:14:35.319 talking about it today, but to giving to all those releases and giving back 1051 01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:39.279 to Melbourne and doing everything that you're doing. So keep it up, and 1052 01:14:39.399 --> 01:14:43.600 uh, obviously what we've talked about today, keep supporting these companies, keep 1053 01:14:44.680 --> 01:14:47.000 keep sharing the love. Those communities are what keeps a lot of these releases 1054 01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:51.119 going. And in all reality, it's kind of like evangelizing for a religion 1055 01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:56.079 because we got to go out and save save some of these films, and 1056 01:14:56.239 --> 01:15:00.640 without some of us sharing the love, they're just gone into obscure and we 1057 01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:04.359 don't want that. That's right. And also just to tail in that, 1058 01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:09.560 I think it's really important to note that a lot of these films are actually 1059 01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:16.359 life affirming and really kind of important because you know, when a company like 1060 01:15:16.479 --> 01:15:23.640 Ald Innocence releases, uh, you know, a trans film that no one 1061 01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:28.800 has seen and it's from the early eighties, that's actually really fucking important. 1062 01:15:29.159 --> 01:15:32.640 That kind of makes it go wow, you know, Yeah, I don't 1063 01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:38.239 know. I think that's that's something as well. That's a whole other conversation, 1064 01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:45.119 just the idea of you know, women and people of color and you 1065 01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:50.119 know, queer people or whatever just in cinema history forever and having that champion 1066 01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:54.000 on these sets is really important. Like you know what Kino did with the 1067 01:15:54.039 --> 01:15:58.680 women directors of the Silent Era, that is that is just funny, Like 1068 01:15:59.279 --> 01:16:01.760 you know what, it's very important. It's not just about collecting, and 1069 01:16:01.760 --> 01:16:08.920 it's not just about you know, filling the gaps and shelves. It's actually 1070 01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:12.880 about Wow, you know, there's all these people have been here for ever 1071 01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:17.359 doing amazing work. It's not anything new. I agree. Yeah, very 1072 01:16:17.399 --> 01:16:20.279 important, and it seems to be a running theme that I've had a lot 1073 01:16:20.319 --> 01:16:26.039 of conversations lately where we've we've touched on this sort of accessibility to these other 1074 01:16:26.199 --> 01:16:30.880 shared experiences because it could be validating on a way that we don't get. 1075 01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:34.800 And truly, representation matters no matter how you look at it. Their every 1076 01:16:34.800 --> 01:16:41.640 segment of society would be less, less well known if we didn't at least 1077 01:16:41.640 --> 01:16:47.520 share some form of their experiences. Yeah and varied. Yes, absolutely, 1078 01:16:47.560 --> 01:16:54.560 we got to have that diversity because we live in a diverse world. Awesome. 1079 01:16:56.159 --> 01:17:24.199 I'm sorry if I choose your era to me. You know,