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I hope you're staying safe and want you 17 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:21,680 to enjoy this podcast. What is poppin Hardwood Knox Listeners. I am Dan 18 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:26,680 Pavalle coming at you with Adam Frommel, editor in chief and founder of MBA 19 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,280 Math and also an editor for Bleacher Report. Follow him on Twitter. As 20 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,640 always at from zero nine, we are taking another break from our decade ranking 21 00:01:34,719 --> 00:01:40,640 series. Rest assured the Memphis Grizzlies top ten players of the decade are coming. 22 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:45,040 I believe we'll actually have that drop on Monday. This podcast though, 23 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,439 since we have the opportunity to podcast on the anniversary of the nineteen ninety six 24 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,760 NBA Draft, We're not going to do a redraft. We are going to 25 00:01:53,879 --> 00:01:59,280 draft teams. We're building a starting lineup each of us. We're picking five 26 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,239 players trying to build the best starting lineup. So this is not, and 27 00:02:01,239 --> 00:02:06,599 I want to emphasize this, a redraft. There will be selections made for 28 00:02:06,599 --> 00:02:10,800 fit purposes, particularly on after the first selections, because you build basically you're 29 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,800 starting lineup around that entire player. It's pretty much the idea at that point. 30 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,599 So if you have any feedback, we'd like to know who you think 31 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,120 has the best starting lineup that we come up with. If you have any 32 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,280 other feedback, criticisms, do you like this? Maybe it's an exercise we 33 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,759 could do for future drafts. Again, we didn't want to do just another 34 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,879 redraft. Those are out there. I in fact just wrote one for this 35 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:35,520 so you can check that out on bleacher Report. But again, I just 36 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,319 want to emphasize, reiterate one more time. We're building starting fives off the 37 00:02:40,479 --> 00:02:44,719 ninety six NBA draft. Let us know who has the better one and whether 38 00:02:44,759 --> 00:02:49,159 you liked this concept. The usual housekeeping notes before we get to this, 39 00:02:49,199 --> 00:02:53,360 though. Above all, please remember to rate, review and subscribe to us 40 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,080 wherever else wherever, excuse me, you were getting your podcast iTunes helps us 41 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,199 out the most, so even if you're not using it, and you can 42 00:02:59,479 --> 00:03:02,560 throw us a five star rating writer review, even if it has constructive criticism. 43 00:03:02,599 --> 00:03:07,400 We very much appreciate that. 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Last, 52 00:03:38,759 --> 00:03:42,400 but certainly not least, shout out to our sponsor for this week, as 53 00:03:42,439 --> 00:03:45,680 always, bet online dot Ag. You'll be hearing from them in just a 54 00:03:45,719 --> 00:03:50,400 few moments. Adam, how are you doing after listening to me speak off 55 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,960 the cuff for more than two and a half minutes consecutively. I'm just waking 56 00:03:54,039 --> 00:03:59,120 up from about two and a half minute math. No, I'm doing pretty 57 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,919 well, aside from the fact that you kind of bulldozed through the joke that 58 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,639 I was planning on making about your redraft on Bleacher Report and now I was 59 00:04:05,639 --> 00:04:09,599 going to ask who wrote that thoroughly mediocre one, But you know, it 60 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:14,280 is what it is. Look that draft took Steve Nash over Alan Iverson, 61 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,639 which is criminal. Apparently I didn't realize I at least thought it was a 62 00:04:16,639 --> 00:04:20,519 debate. I wasn't trying to argue it was consensus, but people were mad 63 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:26,279 about that selection Steve Nash at number two over Iverston at number three. However, 64 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,560 we're not here to litigate a redraft, are we We're not. We 65 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,560 are We're putting a new spin on this, and to be perfectly honest, 66 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,800 like, we don't know exactly how this is going to work out. So, 67 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,399 as Dan said, we definitely want feedback and if this is something that 68 00:04:40,079 --> 00:04:44,600 you want us to do more of moving forward, because we don't know how 69 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,800 it's gonna go. Are we gonna stop at the starting lineups? Are we 70 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,920 gonna draft a sixth man? Who knows? Yeah, that might be we 71 00:04:49,079 --> 00:04:53,079 that's gonna that'll be a decision that we just make mid podcast. You're welcome 72 00:04:53,079 --> 00:04:55,639 in advance everybody. I think it's gonna be whoever feels like they have the 73 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,680 worst line up the let's keep going. And it also depends on it also 74 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,519 depends on how quickly we get through it too. If there's all of a 75 00:05:00,519 --> 00:05:03,560 sudden knowing us that that could be a challenge that yeah, or this is 76 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,639 gonna be a twelve minute podcast, we're gonna need to draft the entire rotation 77 00:05:09,519 --> 00:05:13,079 and maybe this isn't new If there's another podcast or a concept like this that 78 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,079 you've seen happening to let us know. We're not trying to step on it 79 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,319 on anyone's toes here. But Adam had this idea to do it this way. 80 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,680 So we're gonna build starting lineups. It turns out that I have the 81 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,920 first pick and Adam is going to have the second pick, so I guess 82 00:05:28,959 --> 00:05:30,560 I'll just get right into it and make my first pick. Now, the 83 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:35,240 way I'm viewing this and justifying each selection is probably a good start. The 84 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,920 first player you pick is the one that you build the lineup around, because 85 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,879 why else would you make them your first pick at the risk of them not 86 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,920 being there later. I am still going to pick Kobe Bryant, who should 87 00:05:46,959 --> 00:05:50,519 be the consensus number one pick. I don't know that there's anyone out there 88 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:56,399 that would take Steve nash Er Allen Iverson over him. I certainly hope not. 89 00:05:56,639 --> 00:06:00,600 When you look at his career and we're we're drafting these players, I'm 90 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,160 assuming as if they're at their peaks. Correct, that's how you viewed this 91 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,759 as well. I'm kind of viewing, yeah, like the peak version, 92 00:06:09,519 --> 00:06:13,040 you know, maybe like a five year peak. Basically, like you're going 93 00:06:13,079 --> 00:06:15,040 to get the best versions of these players to build around. We're not really 94 00:06:15,399 --> 00:06:18,279 you know, like, you don't need to draft Kobe because he's going to 95 00:06:18,319 --> 00:06:21,920 stick around for twenty years. You're drafting peak Kobe, right, and look 96 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,040 his entire resume. He might be able to if we're only dealing with five 97 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,879 years. There are a bunch of different combinations you could use. We're talking 98 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,959 about two time Final MVP Award winner, he has won League MVP, fifteen 99 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:38,000 all NBA teams, twelve all defensive bids, two scoring titles, and then 100 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:43,199 obviously the five championships. I don't even know why I would have to justify 101 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,519 this pick. And also, if we're viewing the first election as the player 102 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,759 around which you're going to build your starting lineup, the perfect way to start 103 00:06:49,759 --> 00:06:53,120 out is with Kobe, because I do feel like he's the type of player 104 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,000 where you need to properly adapt the rest of the roster or line up in 105 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,160 this case, or rotation, whatever it winds up being around him. Yeah. 106 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:05,000 I mean, there's not much justification necessary there because he's probably the easiest 107 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:10,360 to build around because of how far above everybody else he is just in terms 108 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,120 of talent, and production, So that was the pretty easy choice. But 109 00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:15,560 fortunately I get to have two. I will note though, I'll try and 110 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,959 do this for everyone. Kobe was originally selected in the nineteen ninety six NBA 111 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,480 Draft at thirteenth by the Charlotte Hornets, then traded to the Lakers, but 112 00:07:21,519 --> 00:07:26,279 thirteenth. I think he turned out to be a pretty valuable number thirteen pick, 113 00:07:26,639 --> 00:07:29,639 and the Hornets are kind of just the footnote because he didn't want to 114 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,639 work out for everyone, and he kind of wanted to force his way to 115 00:07:31,759 --> 00:07:34,720 LA, even though he would tell you, and I think he said this 116 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:41,160 a couple of years ago that he was excited to play with the Hornets until 117 00:07:41,199 --> 00:07:44,800 he realized that they weren't going to be like super committed to giving him a 118 00:07:44,839 --> 00:07:46,920 lot of minutes from the start, and that's when he wanted out, which 119 00:07:46,959 --> 00:07:50,759 is a bit of revisionist history. But he will give it to can you 120 00:07:50,759 --> 00:07:53,680 fall team? For Hey, if I'm not going to play, I'd rather 121 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,120 not play in LA for that first year. I mean, he came off 122 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,959 the bench for two years. It's it's really just it's it's another example of 123 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,480 how he modeled his game and his playing style after Michael Jordan, you know, 124 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,439 the person he had to make up the perceived slights to motivate himself. 125 00:08:07,079 --> 00:08:09,399 I will this is the other thing. And since it's this is just a 126 00:08:09,439 --> 00:08:11,040 pick, you don't justify. I feel like even the second pick in this 127 00:08:11,079 --> 00:08:15,480 yours, maybe a little bit you might have to. But if he if 128 00:08:15,519 --> 00:08:18,160 you did do the ninety six redraft over, like if we were able to 129 00:08:18,199 --> 00:08:22,160 go back in time Philly, him ending up in Philly would just be chef. 130 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:26,680 Yes, no one can see it. I just yeah, yeah, 131 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,879 it would be great. But yeah, So for my first pick here, 132 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,000 I'm going to I'm gonna go with Steve Nash, who was originally selected fifteenth 133 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:39,679 overall by the Phoenix Suns. I think you can debate between Nash and Iverson 134 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:46,519 in terms of who has the better NBA legacy. They're probably in fairly similar 135 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:52,200 positions in historical rankings, but in terms of building a team around the player, 136 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,279 Nash clearly rises ahead of Iverson for me just because of the way that 137 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,639 he played, and I'm actually going to have him play for my team slightly 138 00:08:58,639 --> 00:09:03,480 different then he played even at his peak as a two time MVP for the 139 00:09:03,519 --> 00:09:09,559 Phoenix Suns. Because as innovative and as forward thinking as Mike d'antoni's seven seconds 140 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,360 or less offense was centered around Nash, it did not have him shoot the 141 00:09:13,399 --> 00:09:16,559 ball enough, and I just I can't help but think that he was just 142 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:22,639 born a decade too early, and imagine what his career would have been like 143 00:09:22,759 --> 00:09:26,480 if he had entered the league at a time where players like Steph Curry were 144 00:09:26,519 --> 00:09:31,240 getting the green light to shoot all the time he sat. He told ESPN's 145 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,000 Tim mcmaan in twenty eighteen, I never took it to the heights that the 146 00:09:33,039 --> 00:09:37,440 numbers validate in today's day and age, where I probably should have shot the 147 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,720 ball twenty times a game. It probably would have made a lot more sense. 148 00:09:41,039 --> 00:09:43,759 Well, it would have made a lot more sense, and we are 149 00:09:43,799 --> 00:09:46,039 going to let him do that. I support that decision. The only thing 150 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,960 I'll say is I do probably think that even though he did he could hit 151 00:09:50,039 --> 00:09:54,679 pull up jumpers. I wonder how his efficiency is impacted by that type of 152 00:09:54,759 --> 00:09:58,080 role, because we're talking about someone with four fifty forty ninety seasons, the 153 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,919 most an NBA street, and twice as many as any other player. But 154 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,679 the other thing that got me, and I know these things because I again 155 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:11,360 wrote the ninety six redraft for Bleach Report, there was for basically a decade 156 00:10:11,399 --> 00:10:16,639 he averaged around seventeen points tennessis on a fifty forty four ninety shooting slash. 157 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:22,600 To basically have fifty forty ninety for an entire decade just mind meltingly efficient. 158 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,080 And that's ultimately when I you know, and I think for you, you're 159 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,759 making the same decision. Are you going to take him over Alan Iverson? 160 00:10:28,759 --> 00:10:31,159 If you're starting something from scratch? Why I put him at number two when 161 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:37,879 I did wrote the redraft for Bleach Report is he just guaranteed offensive excellence for 162 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:43,120 teams in a way that Allen Iverson never did. Maybe that's in part because 163 00:10:43,639 --> 00:10:46,919 the Sixers never put the right talent around him, But for Steve Nash, 164 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,240 it was never. It was never how do you put the right talent around 165 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,480 him? Everyone was the right talent because he amplified and simplified some roles or 166 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,200 he would build many others. And so that's why I ended up going with 167 00:10:58,279 --> 00:11:01,320 him over Iverson. So I think that's a solid way to start your your 168 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:07,799 lineup slash rotation off whatever we're gonna write. Nash led his teams, whether 169 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,159 with the Mavericks or the Suns, to the NBA's best offensive rating in six 170 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,799 different seasons, and granted, like he always got to play around a lot 171 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:18,759 of talent Amri Stadhamier and Sean Marian and Phoenix, and then the Dallas teams 172 00:11:18,759 --> 00:11:24,840 alongside durk Nevitsky, like he was always given more opportunities to succeed than Iverson 173 00:11:24,919 --> 00:11:28,639 Gott. But it's kind of a chicken egg scenario here where it's hard to 174 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,120 know, like how much of it was because of the teammates and how much 175 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,200 of it was because he just guaranteed that offensive productivity. And I tend to 176 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,240 think that he could have been used even better, because even if you do 177 00:11:39,399 --> 00:11:43,240 see some efficiency declines when he's firing over the top of screens in the pick 178 00:11:43,279 --> 00:11:48,360 and roll game more than he ever did during his peak days, it's still 179 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,840 gonna work. He's still gonna make those shots. He remains one of the 180 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,679 better shooters in NBA history, and it helps that we're gonna put Ray Allen 181 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,279 next to him with our second pick. Alan was originally the fifth pick of 182 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:05,759 the draft from Minnesota Timberwolves and immediately traded to the Milwaukee Bucks. I want 183 00:12:05,799 --> 00:12:09,480 that early version of him. I want I want the lockdown defender on the 184 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,799 perimeter. I want the guy who competed in a dunk contest because he just 185 00:12:13,879 --> 00:12:18,879 had so much bounce that we tend to forget about because he evolved, devolved, 186 00:12:18,919 --> 00:12:24,120 I'm not quite sure which to use there into one of the NBA's greatest 187 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,080 three point shooters ever and a guy who took such a high percentage of his 188 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:31,639 shots from behind the arc later in his career. But you put that kind 189 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:37,000 of shooter, that kind of slasher around Nash and forced defenses to pay attention 190 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,240 to him on the perimeter and to not let him get free on these backdoor 191 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,759 cuts and stuff, and our offense is just going to get even better while 192 00:12:43,879 --> 00:12:48,039 also giving us someone who can take on the tougher perimeter defensive assignment and let 193 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,039 Nash rest a little on that end. I forgot that this was a snake 194 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,679 draft for a second, the way we were doing it. But so Ray 195 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,480 Allen is who I had my eye on primary. I was just spectacular. 196 00:12:58,519 --> 00:13:03,600 He has seven seasons in which he cleared twenty points, three assists, and 197 00:13:03,639 --> 00:13:07,360 two made threes per game. Only one player in NBA history has more such 198 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,840 seasons and that is James Harden with eight So I support that pick. He's 199 00:13:11,879 --> 00:13:16,919 sort of like the plugin play star and you kind of touched upon it by 200 00:13:16,159 --> 00:13:18,799 his move when he goes to the Celtics, he was still Yeah, it 201 00:13:18,799 --> 00:13:22,519 was the tail. It was towards the back end of his career, but 202 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:28,000 he still maintained his stardom for a couple of seasons while just drastically shifting the 203 00:13:28,039 --> 00:13:31,519 type of role that he was assuming. Attention to Hardwin Knox listeners, there 204 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,759 is no shortage of action going on at our exclusive partners, bet online dot 205 00:13:35,799 --> 00:13:39,879 ag. 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I I think I 215 00:14:22,559 --> 00:14:24,759 know where you're going with it. I'm thinking about being super bold here, 216 00:14:24,799 --> 00:14:28,120 but I also don't. I don't think I'm actually, oh man, this 217 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:33,000 is so that's also true. All right, So I'm gonna make my first 218 00:14:33,039 --> 00:14:39,120 pick. I'm going Germain Onio Prime. Germain Onnio was just an absolute, 219 00:14:39,799 --> 00:14:43,639 absolute force. And you know, I have to like him because I'm I'm 220 00:14:43,679 --> 00:14:50,080 still like even in retrospect, I'm just not against like more conventional bigs. 221 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,519 And O'Neil obviously had like some more range in his repertoire than than most bigs 222 00:14:54,519 --> 00:14:58,559 of this period. But he was when he made the move from Portland to 223 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:03,360 Indiana, and there was like the season of feeling out in Indiana. But 224 00:15:03,519 --> 00:15:05,879 after that, after his first season in Indiana, over the next six he 225 00:15:05,919 --> 00:15:11,000 averaged twenty point four points, ten rebounds, two assists, two blocks, 226 00:15:11,759 --> 00:15:15,360 a stat line during that time that was matched by by only Tim Duncan. 227 00:15:16,039 --> 00:15:20,080 He won Most Improved Player. He has three All NBA selections, six All 228 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,799 Star selections, and two thousand and three two thousand four Jermaine and Neill finished 229 00:15:22,799 --> 00:15:28,720 third in MVP voting, and so he's just I think he's gonna ends up 230 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,440 being a perfect fit alongside Kobe Bryant. Perhaps not the not perhaps he's definitely 231 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,279 not the best defensive big, but still gives you sort of a presence around 232 00:15:37,279 --> 00:15:41,279 the rim. And I'm gonna get hopefully this sin is gonna be too weird, 233 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:46,960 but my third pick here to round out my lineup, I'm going to 234 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:52,080 go with Pagrisiakovitch, someone who I don't think people realize was more than just 235 00:15:52,159 --> 00:15:54,679 a shooter. And I say this based on some of the comments I got 236 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,000 on the redraft. He had the limitless range, but he could knock down 237 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,440 on off balance jumpers, he was okay putting the ball on the floor, 238 00:16:03,759 --> 00:16:07,679 and look, he finished top five on the mvpp out the same year that 239 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,279 O'Neil did in two thousand and three, two thousand and four, and he 240 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,080 has that. I know his peak was shorter than most, but between two 241 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,720 thousand and two thousand five, we're talking about someone who cleared over twenty points 242 00:16:18,759 --> 00:16:23,679 and two assists lushooting better than fifty percent from two and forty percent from three. 243 00:16:23,919 --> 00:16:27,279 I think his stardom similar to Ray Allen's, is a different type of 244 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:32,840 stardom obviously different place thus, but it's it's more universal than I think a 245 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,639 lot of other high end players aren't, so that he can fit with whatever 246 00:16:36,759 --> 00:16:38,960 roster is basically going to be around him, because he can play off the 247 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:44,120 ball so well, and he made defenses work when he was in Sacramento just 248 00:16:44,159 --> 00:16:48,759 pinballing around. So my starting lineup right now has Kobe Pajia and Jermaine O'Neil, 249 00:16:48,759 --> 00:16:52,480 and I feel pretty good about it. I admire your dedication to just 250 00:16:52,759 --> 00:16:57,559 paying homage to the nineteen ninety six draft with a throwback lineup that is going 251 00:16:57,639 --> 00:17:03,200 to take so many long pointers. If you can tell Steve Nash to education, 252 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,440 to history, if you can tell Steve Nash to shoot more, I 253 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,920 can tell my team which which kinds of shots to take. That's fair. 254 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,160 I don't I don't hate either those selections. But I am glad that you 255 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,559 left the guy that I really wanted on the board. I was curious thought 256 00:17:17,559 --> 00:17:22,279 I was going to take this guy actually because he wasn't actually taken during the 257 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,480 nineteen ninety six NBA Draft, But he is technically a part of that class 258 00:17:26,519 --> 00:17:30,359 because he went undrafted. And that's Ben Wallace, who might never have averaged 259 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,839 double digit points during his NBA career, but was the best player on a 260 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:40,039 championship winning team, a multiple time Defensive Player of the Year, one of 261 00:17:40,079 --> 00:17:44,039 the greatest interior defenders of all time, and a guy who is going to 262 00:17:44,079 --> 00:17:48,680 make Steve Nash's life so much easier, really on both ends of the floor. 263 00:17:48,759 --> 00:17:52,119 Like we have him picking up behind the turnstile on the defensive end and 264 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,279 deterring people from attacking the rim against us. And we also have a big 265 00:17:56,319 --> 00:18:02,119 athletic body who did not have a chance, no disrespect meant to Chauncey Billups, 266 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,799 but did not have a chance to play with a passer of Nash's caliber. 267 00:18:06,319 --> 00:18:10,880 And I think we can make Ben Wallace score at least a dozen points 268 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,359 per game just off the pick and roll. Ops. Look here out drafting, 269 00:18:14,519 --> 00:18:18,200 there's offense anyway. He's one of the best defensive players in in NBA 270 00:18:18,319 --> 00:18:22,119 history, So I value a little bit more range on my team, which 271 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,440 is why I wouldn't go with him. I might have. I almost consider 272 00:18:25,519 --> 00:18:27,279 going with Marcus Camby, someone that you're super high on. Obviously, Ben 273 00:18:27,279 --> 00:18:30,400 Wallas was better, so you have to make him the pick before Camby. 274 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,480 I do, and then with my with my this is my fourth pick here, 275 00:18:34,839 --> 00:18:41,880 I'm gonna take Sharif abdur Rahim. I am personally attached to him because 276 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,240 when I was growing up in Atlanta, I went to a basketball camp that 277 00:18:45,319 --> 00:18:49,359 he led, so I got to meet him at a young age and learn 278 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,079 things from him. But that is not the real reason for the selection. 279 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,880 And that's just because we're looking at these peak versions, and if Shariff had 280 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:02,559 managed to stay healthy for into his career, I think we're talking about him 281 00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:06,359 on the same level as some of these guys who went earlier in the draft. 282 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,599 I mean, he only had one All Star appearance the two thousand and 283 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,680 one two thousand and two season with the Hawks, where he averaged twenty one 284 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,759 point two points, nine point over rebounds and three point one assists. But 285 00:19:15,839 --> 00:19:18,920 this guy was a three level scorer. He was a competent defender. He 286 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,960 was an underrated facilitator who was comfortable operating out of the post from the elbows 287 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:30,039 and distributing for his teammates. And I just think if we're we're looking at 288 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,559 the peak of a career rather than the totality of a career that he's just 289 00:19:33,599 --> 00:19:37,319 an awesome value here. I feel terrible that Allan Iverson is still left on 290 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:42,039 the board when he is a top three talent from this draft, I think, 291 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,759 but he doesn't think, who are you putting out in a vacuum? 292 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:51,640 Are you putting over Iverson? After three? The only the only option would 293 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:56,640 be would be Alan. I think there's some case for ray Allen moving into 294 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:02,319 the top three past him, But I can't justify how Iverson on the same 295 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,480 team as Steve Nash when both of them need the ball in their hands to 296 00:20:06,519 --> 00:20:08,039 thrive. So I'm gonna go with Sharif here, and I'm not going to 297 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,759 feel bad about it. Look, you're kind of touching on my moral dilemma 298 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,279 here, because how do I like at this point? Is how do I 299 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:22,480 not take Iverson? I just I don't like the idea necessarily applaying him with 300 00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:26,440 Kobe at the same time he went played with Mellow. So look, why 301 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,319 not here I'm gonna take I'm just gonna take Allen Iverson if you have a 302 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,160 chance to get two of the top three players from this draft class. This 303 00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:38,240 story Draft class two MVPs on the same roster, right, it's great from 304 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,839 a talent perspective, right, no poems there. And so look, if 305 00:20:41,839 --> 00:20:47,720 we're look, there's some imagineering to steal phrasing from Disney. There's some imagineering 306 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:52,599 involved here, and so you're you're going to hope that these are two players 307 00:20:52,599 --> 00:20:56,519 and Kobe and Allen Iverson who won't have a problem deferring to one another. 308 00:20:56,519 --> 00:21:00,680 Whereas with Iverson there was always just look at his number two was in Philly. 309 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,960 They were all short lived, and none were better when you're looking at 310 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,359 them in totality, probably than Eric Snow you can make a case that maybe 311 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,720 the Kemma Tumbo age thirty four thirty five to Kemmtumbo could have been the best 312 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:17,319 teammate he had. He spent basically no time with Andre Gadala. So there 313 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:22,319 are different ways for you to approach this. But I look at his brief 314 00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:26,400 partnership with Larry Hughes and it scares me a little bit for this, But 315 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,160 I think Kobe and Allen Iverson ultimately find a way to make it work. 316 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,440 And like you have one of the great shooters in Pajostyokovitch just sort of flying 317 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,640 around and so that's going to help with the spacing. Jermaine O'Neill had some 318 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,759 pick and pop to his game as well too, so I do think that 319 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,279 ultimately helps it. And I just this was a position where I could not 320 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:47,079 take him, if that makes it like, it just it just wasn't an 321 00:21:47,079 --> 00:21:51,440 option, right, And you do still have that opening in the backcourt. 322 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:52,720 I mean, that's it. That's what it comes down to. Like, 323 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,440 at some point, I think talent has to supersede fit, and this is 324 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,720 a good spot for that to happen, right. I mean, look, 325 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:04,480 it's combustible, but I think it's it's high. It's high, it's high 326 00:22:04,519 --> 00:22:07,599 ceiling, low floor. It's one of those types of things. It's high 327 00:22:07,599 --> 00:22:11,680 stakes here we're talking about it. It could either be magnificent or just absolutely 328 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,640 awful. And I'm still on the clock here, correct, you are still 329 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,279 on the clock here, and I'm really hoping that you don't take my guy 330 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,519 here. I don't know. This is such a tough spot because it has 331 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:26,839 to be sort of like a front court wing and when you just look at 332 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:33,119 the options, or you could go big ball here and I'm not throwing Camby 333 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,200 next to Jermaine o'neo. That can't happen. I mean he could. You're 334 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,720 about to throw Camby with Ben Wallace that is out of control. You're not 335 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:45,240 even gonna spoil it. Just that awkward silence, nor Deny. You know 336 00:22:45,279 --> 00:22:48,160 what. No one's gonna like this pick because I don't think they remember what 337 00:22:48,319 --> 00:22:52,680 he was good at during his prime. But Antoine Walker, I'm gonna throw 338 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,960 there. I briefly considered Kerry Kittles, but I don't think he provided enough 339 00:22:56,599 --> 00:23:00,720 defensively to where I value Antoine Walker's offense more on this team that I would 340 00:23:00,759 --> 00:23:04,200 carry Kittles is even though Kittles, sort of another plugging play guy, really 341 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,039 helped amplify those NETS teams. But for Antoine Walker, like this again, 342 00:23:08,079 --> 00:23:12,680 I continue to admire the dedication to the long twos. Again, my team 343 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,759 is going to be taking threes. And look, Antoine Walker, he dribbled. 344 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,440 He got him first all he got a round guys too. In his 345 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,920 heyday. He could get past guys off the dribble. And then also he 346 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,000 was hitting these off the dribble threes. But he can also be the guy 347 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,480 who's going to launch those super long bombs from from deep. So I think 348 00:23:30,519 --> 00:23:36,119 the spacing then becomes valued around both Kobe and Alan Iverson. So that's that's 349 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,720 why I ultimately went the way I did here. I think it makes sense. 350 00:23:38,759 --> 00:23:44,319 I think we forget that Walker played on on those bad teams with the 351 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,759 Celtics where he needed to jack up so many shots and that was always going 352 00:23:47,799 --> 00:23:52,240 to cause those efficiency dips, and he was obviously a talented scorer. I 353 00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:56,519 just I just hope that your locker room survives when Antoine Walker is only getting 354 00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:59,440 three shots a game, because the other eighty are going to Iverson and Kobe, 355 00:23:59,519 --> 00:24:00,880 I think, and looking, I feel like my team is going to 356 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,279 get hammered, in part because, look, I understand the risk I took 357 00:24:04,319 --> 00:24:08,319 with Kobe and Allen Iverson, but Antoine Walker's a pick that I'm going to 358 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,599 stand by. Maybe people don't remember how good Soyokovitch was either, but Anton 359 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,599 Walker specifically, I'm talking like he wasn't super quick, but he scooted around 360 00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:18,519 guys in the post. He I wouldn't say blue by them, but he 361 00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:22,839 got by them off the dribble when he was younger, and so you have 362 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,240 that dynamic. But also with his three point volume and capabilities, even if 363 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,400 he was erratic even at his peak. I think for this team that ends 364 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,400 up being the best offensive fit that's left on the board. Yeah, I 365 00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:37,279 think it is who I would have picked for your team had I had the 366 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:41,359 same four to start. So I don't mind that selection at all. I 367 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,519 think it's good value. I'm just I'm glad that you didn't take Carry Kittles 368 00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:49,279 because that is who I want for my team. And I'd like to read 369 00:24:49,319 --> 00:24:55,440 an excerpt from a piece recently written about the nineteen ninety six draft to help 370 00:24:55,519 --> 00:25:00,920 justify this. So if you'll indulge me here, I'll try. I mean, 371 00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:03,680 all right, So there was a smoothness to Kittles's game. He played 372 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,920 brilliantly off the ball, putting pedal to metal in transition and ducking in for 373 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,880 baseline feats. His three point shooting was his vital during the New Jersey Nets 374 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,200 back to back finals runs, giving Jason Kidd the ultimate outlet, and he 375 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,400 had a knack for throwing quick second passes that kept the offense humming. Through 376 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,200 his first eight seasons, Kittle average fourteen point three points and two point six 377 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,400 assists while splashing in thirty seven point eight percent of his threes. Only three 378 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,039 players during that same span matched his benchmarks on his many three point attempts Ray 379 00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:33,200 Allen, Eddie Jones, and Reggie Miller. That was from I can't remember 380 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,519 Annamous wrote that in his nineties six redraft. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 381 00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:40,359 I can't. I can't quite put put my finger on who wrote that. 382 00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:42,960 But I think it's great that we have two of those, two of those 383 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,759 four guys who hit as many three pointers while making thirty seven point eight percent 384 00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:52,240 of them in Ray Allen and Carry Kittles, And really like his ability to 385 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:59,000 thrive in transition to play as an off the ball score to be not necessarily 386 00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:00,920 a great defender, but at least a competent one. With Ben Wallace behind 387 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:06,000 him, he is the perfect fit as the final cog in our starting five. 388 00:26:06,079 --> 00:26:08,759 Here. I'm assuming that we have to keep going at this point. 389 00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:11,400 I think we have to at least do a sixth man so that the picks 390 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,880 are even, since you know, otherwise you know, with an odd number, 391 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,920 whoever goes first has the advantage, right, which means that I'm taking 392 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:25,759 Marcus Camby here. Obviously I want that defensive depth. I need it behind 393 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,720 behind my Nash Alan Kittle's backcourt trio. But you know, Camby was just 394 00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:37,839 incredible on the boards, on defense, just a shot blocking behemoth even though 395 00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:41,680 he was undersized, A guy who who thrived because of his energy, his 396 00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:48,400 indefatigable motor, his relentless hustle's He's just a guy who who played basketball the 397 00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:52,880 right way and understood his limitations and didn't let those limit him. And I've 398 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,400 always loved guys like that. He was always one of my favorites to watch 399 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:02,519 because anytime you don't need to score to provide immense value, I respect that. 400 00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:04,640 And on a team with Sharif a Door, Raheem Ray, Allen, 401 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,160 Carry Kittles and Steve Nash, I don't need a score. I need a 402 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,319 backup who's going to make sure that that Ben Wallace can stay fresh and that 403 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,599 our defensive performance isn't going to dip when Wallace isn't on the floor. And 404 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,079 we have that in Canby. It's interesting how Canby is not claimed by any 405 00:27:19,079 --> 00:27:25,119 one fan base even though he was so good. I associated him most with 406 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:30,480 the Nuggets. I see, yeah, there's the Nuggets, there's the Knicks, 407 00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:34,440 There's there's even the Raptors. But what's interesting about Canby too is that 408 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:41,519 he didn't just like he wasn't confined to those like functional nooks and crannies of 409 00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:44,799 what everyone thinks that his game was. He took more jumpers than I think 410 00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:48,039 everyone realizes. He wasn't necessarily good at them, and his motion took a 411 00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:52,119 couple of days to get through, but he took them. He put the 412 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,400 ball on the floor a little bit more than I think people remember. He 413 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,640 could block jump shots away from the rim, and he averaged over reassists in 414 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,680 multiple seasons, which is not something that you would expect from a player with 415 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,559 his skill set. And he just he had a bunch of there was some 416 00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:10,279 switchability to his defense as well, and so he seems like the ultimate role 417 00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:12,400 player. I would have loved to have put him him on my team. 418 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:18,440 Coming off the bench, I'm left with like an impossible decision here between Stephon 419 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,839 Marbury or Olgawskis, and I really don't know how to go. Part of 420 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:30,079 me just wants to say, like, let's lean into just the offensive diversification 421 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,079 and we're gonna have all these guys that can put the ball on the floor 422 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,839 and try and score. I don't care about whatever locker room issues there might 423 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,200 be. And then the other part of me is like, you know, 424 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,480 the Drewnisal Gawskis, have him come off the bench behind O'Neil, maybe even 425 00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:45,960 make O'Neil you're sixth man, just because Ogaskis is sort of more of that 426 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,720 steadying presence. But I think I think I'm gonna go with Stephon Marbury here. 427 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,880 I'm just lean. I'm leaning into the star power. Like we're still 428 00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:00,720 talking about the Everson, Kobe, Antoine Walker and marb in the s and 429 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:07,039 Jermaine O'Neil in the same locker room. Who's your coach to be determined, 430 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,079 I think we need Phil Jackson here. I'm gonna give you Phil Jackson to 431 00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:14,119 manage these personalities. I'm going Greg Popovich, I think. Okay, Okay, 432 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,720 so I'm going Greg Popovich is gonna coach this team. Okay, But 433 00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:21,359 I'm just I'm gonna take the gamble here. I know I know what the 434 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,839 optics are gonna look like, but if you look at this team, there 435 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:29,519 is so much offensive firepower. There's a lot of offensive firepower. So look, 436 00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:33,759 Stephan Marberry was good. I think the I know everyone or not everyone, 437 00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:37,160 but they're the vast majority of people are gonna say his best basketball never 438 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,680 came for the best versions of his best teams. But so many of the 439 00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:48,440 organizations he played for are they just have They're incompetent historically, whether it's Phoenix, 440 00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:52,279 whether it's Minnesota, whether it was the Knicks. And I think he 441 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,960 was a star at enough stops where it kind of shows that his individual talent 442 00:29:56,039 --> 00:30:00,000 is scalable. And so, yeah, maybe he's gonna have a hard time 443 00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:03,839 fitting in within specific parameters, and you don't want him playing next to Iverson 444 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,200 and Kobe at the same time. But rest ashore, this team is going 445 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,160 to try it. Those will be lineups that we run. Yeah, you 446 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,160 absolutely need to. But he was. He was really good, and so 447 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,480 if he couldn't carry a team on his own, he's at least there's at 448 00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:18,519 least substance to his game. And he was so ridiculously good. It's another 449 00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:22,319 pick too, where I find myself like Stephan Marbury is still on the board, 450 00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:26,839 so I feel like I need to take him. So this team once 451 00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:30,680 more incredibly combustible, but I kind of dig it. I like the risk 452 00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:36,319 that's being taken here. If you can manage to convince Marbury that he's playing 453 00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:40,880 in China too, then you're set. I just don't know if he's coming 454 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,440 off the bench in China. I just don't know if there's enough room for 455 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,000 all the statues we would have to build in that scenario if that's valid. 456 00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:51,720 So that's the only thing I'd be worried about. Also, Stephan Marbury in 457 00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:55,839 retrospect, imagine prime Stephen Marbury is the sixth man also, and if I 458 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,640 had it would be perfect. If I had any sort of backbone, I 459 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,400 would put Stephon Marburry in this ring line up and making out iverson in the 460 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:06,319 sixth minute intriguing. I feel like either of them would thrive in that role. 461 00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:10,079 Though I did want to circle back and say one more thing about can 462 00:31:10,079 --> 00:31:11,920 be just because I was looking up this stat while you were ruminating over your 463 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:18,759 last pick. Only nine players have ever averaged at least three assists and three 464 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:22,160 blocks per game in the same season, and those nine players are Bill Walton, 465 00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:26,880 Shaquille O'Neil, Bob Lanier, Andre Kirolenko, Patrick Ewing, each of 466 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:33,000 whom did so once, Canby did so twice. David Robinson and Hakim Malajuan 467 00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:37,119 did it three times apiece, and Kareem did it six times, and that's 468 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,680 awesome company. And I'm I'm very pleased that I don't even like have to 469 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:47,039 manipulate the benchmark so that much to get to that that quality of a nine 470 00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:49,359 man group. I will say, you kind of have to worry about staggering 471 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,240 certain players as much as I do, because Candy is not normal six man 472 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,240 material, just because he's not going to generate his own offense. No, 473 00:31:56,359 --> 00:32:00,799 And I think that we probably could get a way with playing bigger lineups with 474 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,559 Camby and Ben Wallace on the floor together just because no one would ever score. 475 00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:12,440 And I think Nash alone generates so much offense even without too much spacing 476 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,559 around him, that we would still be able to, like at least score 477 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,720 enough to keep up. If you have Nash and Ray Allen on the court, 478 00:32:19,759 --> 00:32:22,920 so you know that you have two of these historically great shooters, it 479 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,559 probabably helps. But you're gonna make fun of the shot selection on my team 480 00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:28,759 when you're just gonna have two players who can't shoot. Oh, they're not 481 00:32:28,759 --> 00:32:31,720 going to shoot though there will be no shots allocated to them. But I 482 00:32:31,759 --> 00:32:37,799 do think that like these these players together Sharif played played a lot of three 483 00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:45,319 early in his career. I think he is movable into those wing roles where 484 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,960 he can he can be a spot up guy where he can defend perimeter players. 485 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,880 And I do think that we have the flexibility to play some really big 486 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:58,799 lineups that are still going to be able to play like with a sustainable modern 487 00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:01,279 style as long as Nash is on the court. If Steve Nash gets hurt, 488 00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:06,079 this team is toast. See if I were you and you were dead 489 00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:08,400 said on drafting a big as in your sixth man role, I might have 490 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:15,279 considered Ilgauskus just because he had more of the offensive layers to his game. 491 00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:20,319 The feathery touched around the basket, he had some He had some zemblance of 492 00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:22,880 a floor game too when he was younger, and then we know that he 493 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,240 could he could space the floor. It wasn't always beyond the three point line, 494 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,000 but he can knock down those those long too. So I feel like 495 00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:32,720 for your roster this is I like the the talent play or just the high 496 00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:36,599 upside play with with Camby and what it could do to your defense, I 497 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,400 feel like Ilgascus might have been the safer fit play just like I feel like 498 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,640 for me, if I was going for fit with my sixth man, Derek 499 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,160 Fisher might have been the best fit left on the board. I was gonna 500 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:51,039 say I considered Derek Fisher just because it would guarantee you a championship or five. 501 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,640 I considered Tony Delk because he's good for one fifty point game every five 502 00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:58,119 hundred forty five games. You know, stuff like that was appealing, but 503 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,480 ultimately Camby's talent was just too much. Yeah, I'm interested. So let's 504 00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:07,599 recap these rosters here. Your your starting line up, your rotation. Your 505 00:34:07,639 --> 00:34:13,559 six man rotation ended up being starting lineup of Steve Nash, Ray, Allen 506 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,840 Sharif, abdu Raheem, you had. Why am I missing your your Harry 507 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:23,440 Kittles, Terry Kittles and Ben Wallace with the sixth man of Marcus Camby. 508 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,440 Now, we're going to be coached by Steve Kerr because I would love to 509 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,760 see what he could do with someone like Nash filling the Curry role. Okay, 510 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,440 I could. I could see that we're gonna be coached by Greg Popovich. 511 00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:42,440 Over here, my team is Allen Iverson and Kobe Bryant starting backcourt. 512 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,559 Pages, Sayakovich, Antoine Walker, and Jamaine O'Neil upfront, with Stefan Marberry 513 00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:52,639 coming off the bench. So everyone, let us know which team is going 514 00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:55,920 too fair better. Let us know what you thought about this experiment. Is 515 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,599 it something we should We should be adding a third person just to make it 516 00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:04,480 harder, make it a little bit longer. Let us know again on Twitter 517 00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:07,239 at Hardwood Knox or get it. Adam at FROMMO zero nine, I'm at 518 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:13,079 Dan FA Valley FA v A L. Until next time, though, I 519 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,039 leave everybody with the shout out to the one, the only, the real 520 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:24,280 star of this draft class from nineteen ninety six malikros Sugar, Ray Leonard, 521 00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:30,280 Roberto Duran, Marvelous, Marvin Hagler, and Thomas Hearns. Legends whose four 522 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:36,360 way rivalry define one of the greatest errors in boxing history, relive their decade 523 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,079 of dominance in the new Showtime Sports documentary The Kings, a four parts series 524 00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:43,840 premiering Sunday, June sixth, only on Showtime