1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,599 You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best in paranormal talk radio 2 00:00:06,799 --> 00:00:27,039 in the UK and around the world. There are more than a thousand musical 3 00:00:27,039 --> 00:00:31,600 records made around the world every month. Ninety of them are flops, but 4 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:36,799 ten percent are not. These are called hit songs, and how they're made 5 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,280 is one of the most closely guarded secrets in the entertainment business today. Join 6 00:00:41,359 --> 00:00:45,880 us now as Mac and the Gang take a deep dive into the strange world 7 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:51,119 of hit music and people who make it. This is Mac Maloney's musical X 8 00:00:51,119 --> 00:00:55,719 Files, and now here's Mac. Well. Good evening, Edwin, and 9 00:00:55,759 --> 00:00:59,759 welcome to Macaloney's musical exiles here on the Distance Thunder Radio Network. This is 10 00:00:59,759 --> 00:01:02,799 Mac the Lonely Know what the show we have here tonight, What a gang 11 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:03,959 we have for you tonight. But first, girls, get ready to set 12 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,519 yourselves down. Gets your squeezed no, get your big busty Kleenex, your 13 00:01:08,519 --> 00:01:12,040 fan, your squeegee and your loop. I don't know I'm missing something there, 14 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:18,239 but he's here across the puddle, very famous one one. Hello Mack. 15 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,000 Call everybody. I'm glad to be here. And in the borrow phrase, 16 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,359 glad to be anywhere. Always a pleasure to be here. It's a 17 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:27,319 pleasure is on mine, by the way, and as you know, I 18 00:01:27,359 --> 00:01:33,200 live for this. Well so do we. Everything okay over there in Old 19 00:01:33,239 --> 00:01:38,799 Hampshire. Well we're dialed into spring, but it's still rainy and you know, 20 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:41,640 we had a couple of sunny days. Everybody celebrates, but really, 21 00:01:41,719 --> 00:01:46,560 yeah, it's back to kind of gloomy issues for the rest of the week. 22 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,400 Yes, maybe into the Easter weekend. I hope not. But you 23 00:01:49,439 --> 00:01:53,200 know, it's kind of weird and we don't want to you know, time 24 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,640 date the show. But to say that the royal family is going through a 25 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,879 tough time right now, it's such an unexpected, weird thing to happen, 26 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:04,640 you know, with the King and also the princess both having health issues at 27 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,560 the same time. Wow, you just never know to focus on it too. 28 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,680 Oh shit, Yes, yeah, I mean people think, O, 29 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,400 who cares about the royal family, But when stuff like this happens, yeah, 30 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,520 caring does come out and it's genuine. Yeah. Well, the people 31 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,039 just love them. I mean there were people over there when the Queen died. 32 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,360 People were saying, you know, I've never been alive when there's been 33 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,879 another queen, you know. I mean that the tradition is so solid over 34 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:35,000 there. But yeah, anyway, so I was I was blessed. I 35 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:42,000 lean and I were blessed to have come here during the Queen's jubilee seventy years 36 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,000 as queen seventy years. Yes, almost as the Rolling Stones have been a 37 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,240 band almost as long as she's been the Queen. Yeah. In any event, 38 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,039 another way to measure it, Ye, the Queen's Jubilee. A lot 39 00:02:53,039 --> 00:02:57,240 of garden parties. People in the neighborhoods have these parties. It's funny they 40 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,840 have these parties. Yes, and you think it's all about the queen. 41 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:06,800 Yes, you raise So I'm the American raising my glass Long Live the Queen, 42 00:03:07,439 --> 00:03:13,319 and people look at me like I can't stand the queen just a party. 43 00:03:14,439 --> 00:03:16,199 They have garden parties. But you know, it's kind of it was 44 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,240 kind of a celebration. But it was like, we don't care. It's 45 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:25,960 an excuse to have a party. It was, I mean, it was 46 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,360 the queen. Yeah. Yeah. And you don't have to be invited to 47 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:35,439 these garden parties, although they I was invited to a couple of them because 48 00:03:35,919 --> 00:03:39,479 they're right down the street from where our daughter lives. So we got invited, 49 00:03:40,719 --> 00:03:43,960 but they would have a sign outside, you know, come on, 50 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:50,560 drop in, like in various streets, drop in, have something to eat 51 00:03:50,919 --> 00:03:53,919 Queen's jubilee celebration and you know over there that's a threat. Have somebody to 52 00:03:53,919 --> 00:04:00,919 eat English food? Right? Also Junie us as our good friend Rob Ferraro, 53 00:04:01,199 --> 00:04:05,879 music journalist, Rob. How you doing, Hi, Mac? How 54 00:04:05,919 --> 00:04:15,120 are you okay? Everything okay with you? Everything's okay with you, Everything's 55 00:04:15,159 --> 00:04:16,759 going good. I'm having audio issues, so I just look at your mouth 56 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,439 and when you stop talking then I say things, really, yeah, how 57 00:04:19,439 --> 00:04:26,120 about this? Yeah, I'm going to fix it as we Everything is fine 58 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:32,839 here. So have you you interview known celebrities and the entertainment business since in 59 00:04:32,879 --> 00:04:36,120 the past month? So who have you talked to? Who's interesting? Who 60 00:04:36,199 --> 00:04:40,720 interests you? I should say so the last month, like over the winter, 61 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,519 I kind of choose to be slow. And it is kind of slow 62 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,680 because tours don't usually start in that first quarter of the year and so there's 63 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,720 not a lot of promotion needed. This next couple of months is when you 64 00:04:51,759 --> 00:04:58,920 can really get quite a few I'm working on some things, believe it or 65 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,360 not. This is a big, big, big one, go ahead, 66 00:05:00,399 --> 00:05:06,560 But I'm pretty close to talking to Joni Mitchell. Wow. Yeah, so 67 00:05:08,199 --> 00:05:12,959 it still needs to be worked out and I'm gonna talk to somebody next week 68 00:05:12,959 --> 00:05:16,199 about that. But yeah, we have like a connection that I won't mention 69 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,360 right now, but we have a connection and she seems willing to talk to 70 00:05:19,399 --> 00:05:23,959 me, so we'll see. Wow, because she's kind of notorious for not 71 00:05:24,079 --> 00:05:27,720 talking to the press. Right. That's a story in itself, is how 72 00:05:28,439 --> 00:05:31,839 a music journalist establishes those connections. I know, Max told us some stories 73 00:05:31,879 --> 00:05:36,360 like that you run into people you know, Well, that's good. That'd 74 00:05:36,399 --> 00:05:40,199 be that's cool. I mean that that's that's a big get man. You 75 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,519 know, that'd be nice if that happens. You know. Also with us 76 00:05:43,519 --> 00:05:47,079 talking about a big gets, our good friend out there in California X basis 77 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:53,040 for a company, pros musician, man about town and action figure. Now 78 00:05:53,079 --> 00:05:57,399 apparently Matt Mally, Matt, how you doing. I'm good. Good to 79 00:05:57,399 --> 00:05:59,600 see you, Mac, good to see everybody. Good to see you, 80 00:05:59,639 --> 00:06:01,800 Matt. If you want to paint the picture, he looks like Michael McDonald's 81 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:08,480 younger brother. Right, what you say, George Lucas. Oh, George 82 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:14,519 Lucas also, that's right, Yeah, that's right, we got it. 83 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,000 We mentioned Michael McDonald, and you mentioned Judge Lucas every every week, you 84 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,279 know, every time you're around with us. So anyway, okay, one 85 00:06:20,319 --> 00:06:24,920 of them is much of Richard than the other, though I can't imagine very 86 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:30,040 much. I work in Hollywood sometimes and I just say I'm George Lucas and 87 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,720 everyone gets out of the way. Really, yeah, because he's such a 88 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:36,720 weirdo, or he just smacks people around. Just finished watching Ten Commandments tonight, 89 00:06:36,759 --> 00:06:41,160 and I think he look a little bit like Moses, little Moses thing. 90 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,240 He's just coming up. Yeah, okay, I heard about. I 91 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,079 mean, Lucas is a strange guy. This isn't a Hollywood show. But 92 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:53,680 because he doesn't really direct, his actors have hear that he has, they 93 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:58,680 read the script and then he just goes, okay, do it. And 94 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,199 he's not there, you know, pointing, you know, and and I 95 00:07:01,199 --> 00:07:04,240 don't know. It's a weird way of doing it, but he's just anyway, 96 00:07:04,439 --> 00:07:08,879 Who am I? He's worth about nine billion dollars. Who am I? 97 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:15,879 To thank you Matthew joining us also with us in the studio taking some 98 00:07:15,879 --> 00:07:19,319 time off of her very busy schedule. You hear about it a lot, 99 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,680 don't see her very little. I don't think you can say that anymore. 100 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,199 The very lovely Lois Lane, Lois, how are you? I'm great? 101 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,720 Thank you, thank you for having me. It's good to see everybody. 102 00:07:29,959 --> 00:07:35,120 It's exciting to talk about again. Well yeah, okay. Rob is kind 103 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:43,120 of indicating we should clap you on. Wow. Okay, I'm not sure 104 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,199 I deserve that, don't Well, let's see. The night is young, 105 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,639 so everything's good with you? Lois? Oh? Absolutely, you didn't hear 106 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:56,240 from you, didn't hear from Elton John's people yet? Are you still waiting 107 00:07:56,279 --> 00:08:01,319 for the letter to come on? Elvis and Elton are leaving me hanging well, 108 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,079 okay, the loss, don't worry, It's okay, something much better 109 00:08:05,279 --> 00:08:11,560 so wow, Okay, I don't want to go any thriller. I want 110 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:16,600 to. I don't write that last supper. Also joining us is good friends 111 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,519 up there at Edmonkin, Canada, and you know we're gonna clap with him, 112 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,959 okay, Kim and Savachet, Hi, guys, how you doing? 113 00:08:26,079 --> 00:08:28,639 Hi? Everyone? Thanks for having us. Nice to see everyone. And 114 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:33,720 privilege is good to see you guys. Is this snow on the ground. 115 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,240 You would tell him us last time that you weren't really getting any snow up 116 00:08:37,279 --> 00:08:39,120 in Canada. What's going on? Unmust it's got to be global warming or 117 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,519 something, O can we We could almost turn this and you can see. 118 00:08:43,519 --> 00:08:46,519 But yeah, we don't have much right now. That's sure. It's melting, 119 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,840 but it's still cold. So cool. Yeah, thank you guys too, 120 00:08:50,919 --> 00:08:54,519 though pretty we don't get snow, but we got these weird many hurricanes 121 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,080 that we'd just figured out the other day. I mean last Saturday night it 122 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,279 rained like you wouldn't belie. We've like for eight hours straight and and now 123 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,120 enough of us got like twenty six inches of snow, but we get all 124 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,039 rain, you know. So they turned into these little mini hurricanes for us. 125 00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:13,399 A wind and like but anyway where I used to let they got hammered 126 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:18,320 with snow right yeah up there right there's some power out ites. Yeah yeah, 127 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,080 funny. Yeah. So anyway, well thanks for joining us, guys. 128 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,159 So we're going to just talk about you know, music and stories. 129 00:09:26,159 --> 00:09:28,519 We have things that you know, kind of stuck in your minds and stuff. 130 00:09:28,759 --> 00:09:33,200 Now. I know last time one one and alsobhead stories. They didn't 131 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,240 get to so Rob just something lined up the status up. Yeah, I 132 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,799 sure remembered what I had. I mean I could say, all right, 133 00:09:41,399 --> 00:09:43,039 yeah, let me do that. So because we were talking about how Matt 134 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:48,000 looks like Michael McDonald, yes, yes, younger brother, his younger brother. 135 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,679 Yes yeah. And this isn't really I guess stories are supposed to have 136 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,000 a middle, beginning, of middle and end. I don't really know if 137 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,279 this has this, but I just want to say that Michael McDonald is one 138 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:01,799 of the absolute uh biggest sweethearts in music. He is one of the nice 139 00:10:03,159 --> 00:10:05,679 the way that you probably perceive him to be the way that he is. 140 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,679 His wife is Amy Holland, and she had a hit single like in nineteen 141 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:20,159 eighty top forty hit, and then she also sang the song that plays on 142 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:26,600 the dance floor dooring come on out, Scarface, Oh really okay some reasons 143 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,039 in al Pacino and that's her voice singing that song as they do their thing. 144 00:10:31,879 --> 00:10:37,799 And she also had a semi hit on adult contemporary for with us Saint 145 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,200 Elmo's Fire. There's actually words to the Saint almos Fire theme. Nobody knows 146 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,320 that she sang it and did pretty well with it on adult charts. But 147 00:10:45,279 --> 00:10:48,360 I did her a favor. I was very privileged to speak to her, 148 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,720 so she was doing me a favor as well. But I did her a 149 00:10:50,799 --> 00:10:56,200 pretty solid deal with some promotion, and he was very thankful, Michael McDonald, 150 00:10:56,279 --> 00:11:01,799 And as a result, he had my wife and I come out in 151 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,039 like eight row seats to see him nice and come backstage and hang out with 152 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,960 them afterwards, and spent time with with him and Amy and it was just 153 00:11:11,519 --> 00:11:13,480 delightful. He's just a fantastic dude. Yeah, it's good to know. 154 00:11:13,879 --> 00:11:18,919 You know, they're not at all. They don't know if fit the caricature, 155 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,879 though they were. There are some I'll tell a story tonight if we 156 00:11:20,919 --> 00:11:24,320 get to it, And I can't name the rock stop, but I can 157 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:30,639 tell you some outrageous rockstar behavior, you know. But Yeah, Michael McDonald 158 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,480 has that voice that you just recognize. Yeah, every time he sings. 159 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:39,039 Ah, he's a backup singer or an additional singer like with Steely Dan or 160 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,240 anybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, total did a lot of 161 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:46,159 totals. Is it smokey smoky? Would you call it smokey? Kind of 162 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:52,159 smokey? Yeah, you know, kind of sexy, and Eleen was in 163 00:11:52,159 --> 00:11:58,759 love with the guy really yeah. Yeah, cool voice, yeah yeah, 164 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,559 unique is right. Yeah, and everyone I read Ted Templeton's book, The 165 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,360 Producers who produced a lot of them, uh Doobie Brothers, and he was 166 00:12:05,399 --> 00:12:11,080 in with all those gangs. And he says the biggest misconception, if you 167 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:15,399 want to believe him, is that when they when Tom Johnson had to leave 168 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:22,159 the Doobie Brothers for medical reasons and they brought Michael McDonald in, supposed to 169 00:12:22,159 --> 00:12:26,559 be a temporary thing, and they thought people in the band and the fans 170 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:31,360 would really be antagonistic. It was kind of like, uh, you know, 171 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,440 David leave Broth and Sammy Hager type of thing, right, But they 172 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,600 actually got along, which is funny. He says they were they were You'd 173 00:12:39,639 --> 00:12:41,639 read stuff about how they disliked each other. He says, they're sitting in 174 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,480 my studio writing songs together, you know. So it wasn't like that. 175 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:50,720 But Ted Templeton said that just doing a Dowie Brothers album man would take like 176 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,279 months and months and months, because he says, there were just so many 177 00:12:54,279 --> 00:12:58,360 different options you could do with these guys, because they could all just play, 178 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,679 and but they all had that chunk of chunk of sound, you know, 179 00:13:00,799 --> 00:13:03,200 I mean, another being. Once you hear him, you know it's 180 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,639 them, you know, never mistake, you know, Yeah, trying to 181 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,279 grow Yep, supposedly he took one. I was going to say, supposedly 182 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:16,039 he took a dot and threw it against the map, and he wrote a 183 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,039 song about where it landed. I was trying to grove Texas. Oh wow. 184 00:13:20,639 --> 00:13:22,159 One of the interesting things about him is if you go to a YouTube 185 00:13:22,159 --> 00:13:28,440 of any of his hits, at the comments underneath, you'll see dozens upon 186 00:13:28,519 --> 00:13:31,000 dozens of black people coming in and saying, I just now found out he 187 00:13:31,039 --> 00:13:33,399 was white five minutes ago. Wow, that's funny. Yeah to me, 188 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,120 until I was twenty years old to find out I was white. He was 189 00:13:37,159 --> 00:13:39,720 white. Yeah, yeah, and that kind of thing. So there's that 190 00:13:39,799 --> 00:13:43,519 smoky, soulful voice thing, right, Yeah, yeah, I never thought 191 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:46,000 of it, but I could see how he could be mistaken. Elvis was 192 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,879 mistaken a lot of being black, and Jerry Lee Lewis and all those guys 193 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,039 when they started out because they're singing black slonges. But hmm, wow, 194 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:56,720 well it seems like a good guy. I mean, he had two great 195 00:13:56,039 --> 00:13:58,320 careers. You know. I saw him with the Doobie Brothers when they call 196 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:01,879 him the Doobie Ends, and there was about fifteen of them. They were 197 00:14:01,919 --> 00:14:05,000 great, they were just they was there. They were jazzy, but it 198 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,960 was almost like it was too good in a way. It was too polished 199 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:13,279 in a way. But yeah, you get polished. Yeah, So I'm 200 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:18,720 going to get out to Kim and Sarah. You were telling me a story 201 00:14:20,759 --> 00:14:24,000 you got to you gotta retell it again about a Canadian guitarist that had some 202 00:14:24,159 --> 00:14:28,440 kind of a Is it be a funny story? You happen to meet Russ. 203 00:14:28,639 --> 00:14:35,159 His brother is a phenomenal twelve string six string Spanish style player. Now 204 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:41,799 I didn't know this. I met Russ's brother. Ken is a macho kind 205 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:48,360 of guy. He's a hunter, he's an outdoors Then he was driving bus 206 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:54,679 and bound for Great Goose and working on the weekends at one of the really 207 00:14:54,759 --> 00:15:01,360 nice restaurants and Bounce Felberta and playing just background music, just real nice music 208 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:07,360 and not interfering with anybody's conversation or anything. But there was a lady sitting 209 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,440 there one evening and she was checking him out, and she came over when 210 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:16,159 he was doing in her mission, and she introduced herself and he was like, 211 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,159 I don't know your name, but her name was Leona Boyd, and 212 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,720 at the time, I guess he didn't recognize that. He was kind of 213 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,639 like, oh, and she started telling who she was, and she is 214 00:15:28,039 --> 00:15:33,879 like, well, she's a renowned guitarist in Canada as at least twenty five 215 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:41,840 albums and four five platinum records, four gold records, something in that regard. 216 00:15:43,639 --> 00:15:48,159 But she loved his music and they had a conversation all some he's They 217 00:15:48,159 --> 00:15:52,279 had a conversation sitting there and she just fell in love with us play. 218 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,720 But she offered up one of his guitars to him, and to this day 219 00:15:56,759 --> 00:16:00,320 he has one of her guitars. And wow, I thought that was a 220 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,080 really cool story. But Macca on the enough one, excuse me, but 221 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,440 when you had mentioned some live stuff and I had mentioned this story, I 222 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:11,840 wasn't really thinking of discussing it, but I had talked about it further and 223 00:16:12,919 --> 00:16:18,759 I realized that both of them both have suffered sort of let's say, physical 224 00:16:18,799 --> 00:16:25,639 maladies to their playing style. Now I kind of learned this not too long 225 00:16:25,639 --> 00:16:26,320 ago, and I was like, well, I was kind of like talking 226 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:32,480 to Sarah thinking, well, maybe the Spanish style, you know, yeah, 227 00:16:32,879 --> 00:16:37,759 very intensive to get their hand motions and such, right, yeah, 228 00:16:37,039 --> 00:16:42,879 fingerpicking style of Flamenco kind of finger picking style, Yeah, yeah, exactly, 229 00:16:42,919 --> 00:16:47,480 you know, with all of the accouser percussion that they do as well 230 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,320 on them, ye, hard and everything all of that too, And so 231 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:56,960 they both I think ended up developing and I cannot remember the name of it, 232 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,080 but it's a condition that basically you lose control of your momuscles almost from 233 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,880 overplay. I guess it's called yep. The athletes yep, over use of 234 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,200 a muscle group, didn't Seinfel do an episode like that? Hang on, 235 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:15,559 hold on, we'll cut that even lowest to that one, Okay, Yeah 236 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:21,200 yeah, I mean, uh, like for like drummers, for instance, 237 00:17:21,279 --> 00:17:26,880 the thing they always go through is that their spine. The guy from Motley 238 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,960 Crue is going through it now. They had to put a rod in his 239 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,559 spine because he had been, you know, hunched over the drums for so 240 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,240 many years. Same thing with the guy in the Little Rascals who just just 241 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,000 recently passed away. Do you know Danelli I think his name was. He 242 00:17:41,599 --> 00:17:45,279 had to have, like really in Phil Collins, same thing, you know, 243 00:17:45,599 --> 00:17:51,599 aggravated his condition because hunched over the drums for forty fifty years is going 244 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,119 to do it, you know. Yeah, kind of funny. Wannie, 245 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,759 what's your story that you forgot? Last story? Yeah, we'll see the 246 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,720 right now. I'm reading a book about Heart. It's a it's actually here 247 00:18:03,759 --> 00:18:08,119 we go. I just seem to gravitate to that band lately. I just 248 00:18:08,599 --> 00:18:11,559 I don't know what it is, but just lately. Yes, it's really 249 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,440 written by something new for you. Well, let me say, let's let's 250 00:18:15,519 --> 00:18:18,920 just and Wanning, let me hold up for a second. Let me just 251 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,240 explain a little backstory. Wan and Nancy of Hot Nancy Wilson have a little 252 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,240 bit of a history. History. History is right, okay, And that's 253 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,000 why it happened forty years ago, and that's why you keep coming back to 254 00:18:30,039 --> 00:18:33,640 it because you want it to happen. Go ahead, one one, Well, 255 00:18:34,759 --> 00:18:40,200 reading the book and I haven't finished reading it yet, because it takes 256 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:47,480 them right through their their childhood in uh Washington and in Vancouver and all the 257 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:52,720 way up now to a complete band makeover. But anyway, because you're because 258 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,759 I'm reading it and then I'm playing some of the music that they happen to 259 00:18:55,799 --> 00:19:00,559 mention I get these dreams at night like so I had like a flashback. 260 00:19:00,599 --> 00:19:03,599 Honest to god, I had this flashback. And Eileen hates to hear the 261 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:11,640 story over and over again. Of the sort the story about now Cheap Trick 262 00:19:11,039 --> 00:19:17,880 was often a opening act for Heart or for each other. There was sort 263 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:22,000 of a dual headliner act. And I was doing Heart and Cheap Trick at 264 00:19:22,519 --> 00:19:30,759 Rob's Neck of the Woods in Worcester Centrum, a nice facility, did a 265 00:19:30,759 --> 00:19:36,960 lot of shows there as a local crew member of the Union. So the 266 00:19:37,039 --> 00:19:48,960 flashback was this is that we're setting up the stage for Heart and everything was 267 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,599 all all assembled, all the lights, all the sound gear, everything was 268 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,160 set up and we sort of go through a final check. And that was 269 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,519 one of the guys that was going through final check. Basically, the final 270 00:19:59,599 --> 00:20:04,440 check is the I asked the the house sound guy and the the stage sound 271 00:20:04,519 --> 00:20:11,599 guy if they needed anything. Everything Okay, everything's working, sounds like everything's 272 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,279 working, But you tell me, it looks like everything's working, what do 273 00:20:14,319 --> 00:20:18,559 you think? And sort of making my rounds, I was kind of shooting 274 00:20:18,559 --> 00:20:22,240 the breeze with some of the folks too. But I'm there making my rounds 275 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,039 and I'm kind of I'm looking around and I'm going, okay, it looks 276 00:20:26,079 --> 00:20:32,640 like everybody's okay, went to this, went to the mixing board, riser 277 00:20:32,759 --> 00:20:34,839 and everything. Okay, yep, you just let me know if you need 278 00:20:34,839 --> 00:20:37,880 anything. I'm looking around. It looks like I'm the only union guy. 279 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,039 I'm the only local crew doing this right now. It's like I'm alone in 280 00:20:41,079 --> 00:20:47,599 the auditorium. So I'm about to boogie kind of, you know, saunter 281 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:52,079 out of the place and going to the cruise area. I'm really taking my 282 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,559 time and who comes out But the band Heart's coming out to do this sound 283 00:20:56,599 --> 00:21:00,920 check. And they're doing an acoustic sound check as it as it were, 284 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:10,119 except for the bass player Mark and Mark Andy's formerly of Spirit, another great 285 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:17,079 band. So I'm sitting in the front row in case they need anything, 286 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,240 because now they're really testing things, and it looked like, you know, 287 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,519 it looks like everything's okay. I was going to get up and sort of 288 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:30,920 lightly leave and let them be do their thing in private. I don't know 289 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,160 you even know why I felt that way, but I did go ahead, 290 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:38,200 and and they said I don't know who said it first, but they said, 291 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:45,359 oh, you don't have to leave. I'm looking around them going now. 292 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,240 But in situations like that, this is sort of an unwritten rule that 293 00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:56,359 unless you're invited, hang with the band. The unwritten rule is the the 294 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:02,160 the union crew, the local crew they hired help, has their own place 295 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,599 to go. Yeah. Yeah, and the band had and the band's crew 296 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:10,119 have their own place to go. Because interesting, Yeah, okay, it's 297 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:11,799 kind of like, you know, you just kind of give each other some 298 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,680 space. That's it. You know, it's not really hard and fast rule, 299 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,480 but it kind of works like that. Yes, So I'm thinking, 300 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,519 and my violating internationing is that you know, you don't have to go. 301 00:22:22,599 --> 00:22:27,400 So all right, So I'm sitting in the front row of the what's the 302 00:22:27,559 --> 00:22:33,599 centrum auditorium and they're plugging in, they're setting up a little bit of tuning. 303 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:41,480 They were ready to go ahead, and they they're doing like an acoustic 304 00:22:41,599 --> 00:22:45,440 set of the hits that Rob and I always talk about hot plays. You 305 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,160 want to play their hits. You don't want to be rolling out some new 306 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,480 number that they're going to try out on everybody. Because back then, this 307 00:22:52,559 --> 00:23:00,119 is the this is like the mid eighties Bad Animals HERA, Yes, okay, 308 00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:04,680 they're they're they're poppier. Really is this when you thought Nancy was giving 309 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:11,000 you hand signals from the stage? Well, really, I didn't go like 310 00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:15,960 that. But Nancy, if you ever see a play, it doesn't matter 311 00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:19,000 what kind of guitar she's playing. She's doing the leg kicks and it's she's 312 00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:27,480 still doing it. Yeah going through Uh it looks could kill Baron, Barracude, 313 00:23:27,559 --> 00:23:34,359 all all those things. And I swear to God, and I'm already 314 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:40,359 sweating because I'm I'm the only one. They're playing this concert just for me. 315 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,160 That's something. I'm sweating. I can't I can't move. I'm just 316 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:49,319 looking at them, and I'm making eye contact with Nancy Wilson. Honestly, 317 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:55,160 here we go, because she's everywhere on the stage. She's quite mobile on 318 00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:02,440 the stage, and I'm watching her just like I'm watching another word for stoking 319 00:24:02,799 --> 00:24:07,319 whatever, go ahead. I'm just so laser focused on her. But you 320 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,200 know how you look, You know how if you're staring at somebody, all 321 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,839 of a sudden you want to look away because you feel like a little uncomfortable 322 00:24:12,839 --> 00:24:18,599 there. I couldn't stop looking at her. I don't know. I was 323 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:25,599 almost up next week. Sitting there, I'm in a dream. I can't 324 00:24:25,599 --> 00:24:29,440 believe this is happening. And I'm not being you know, waved to be 325 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,039 to leave the area right the shop steward, the boss. It didn't come 326 00:24:33,079 --> 00:24:37,519 out and like wait, come on, getting the get in the back. 327 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:42,160 None of that's going on because probably they knew that I was okay to be 328 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,599 there. I'm like, if they need anything, I'm there to do it, 329 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,640 right. Yeah, sure she needs a boyfriend, she took something up 330 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,440 connection or replace a microphone or some whatever, I'm there to do it anything. 331 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,839 So I felt like I had a mission. But I'm watching the show. 332 00:24:57,519 --> 00:25:02,039 It was about a half hour set. Yeah yeah, yeah, of 333 00:25:02,079 --> 00:25:07,119 their hits. They play them all the way through and they kind of you 334 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,720 know, talking to each other and they're doing things and doing what they do 335 00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:14,799 for a good a good sound check. It wasn't just a testing one two 336 00:25:14,839 --> 00:25:19,880 three. It was really a show, and you're playing to your audience right 337 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,000 when you play. Any band member is going to do that. They're going 338 00:25:23,079 --> 00:25:29,079 to It's weird looking out into empty seats, isn't it. You know, 339 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,920 if you if you're doing a sound check. You're looking out into the sea. 340 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,000 It's kind of weird, isn't it. It's a little weird. So 341 00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:44,480 I'm there and I'm saying, they're looking out and I'm there the person there, 342 00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:49,079 and I'm making and really another of the story is I'm making eye contact, 343 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,160 Wilson. Was she kicking in your direction? Anything like that, any 344 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:57,839 kind of She was kicking and everything every direction. She's really into her riffs. 345 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,680 Yeah, spinning around, yeah, part of the show. Yeah, 346 00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:07,200 she's she's all over the place. Wow, she's fun to watch. That's 347 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,599 why I was watching her. I mean fun to watch too. While she's 348 00:26:10,599 --> 00:26:15,039 singing, She's really she's all over the place too. She really breathes well 349 00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:18,400 and goes right into it. Has a very powerful voice, dynamic. Yeah, 350 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,039 okay, all right, let's get one one. We'll get a cold 351 00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:26,640 cloth now, put it on hell Man. Just like I was when that 352 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,720 was over. That was a good thing. I'm off the clock right now 353 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,839 because all I have to do is just watch the shows, both Heart and 354 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,039 Cheap Trick. I have a good time. I'm off the clock. I 355 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,079 have to do anything. And I don't want to be a spotlight operator because 356 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,319 you really have to pay attention. I almost I was going to do that. 357 00:26:42,599 --> 00:26:45,880 Yes, you got to pay too much attention. You really do it 358 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:52,519 that. I don't like it. So I'm just enjoying the moment. I 359 00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:57,200 was having a zen moment with heart and in particular Nancy Wilson and I have 360 00:26:57,279 --> 00:27:03,240 these flashbacks about it. Once again, listen, I mean, can you 361 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,599 turn it down your phones? Our time is up one one. Come next 362 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,559 week at three o'clock on a Thursday, and we'll take it up there. 363 00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:15,160 Okay, funny story. I'll tell you what when we do this and when 364 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,400 we go to mad because Matt, I don't want to ambush you, okay, 365 00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:22,279 but can you tell us the Ringo story? Oh yeah, yeah, 366 00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:25,200 I mean you've done it before, but this is this is classic. Okay, 367 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,880 go ahead, please, yeah, okay, this is a good story. 368 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:33,400 I'm meeting a Beatle, you know, I mean meeting anybody there's in 369 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,759 popular music. There's the Beatles, and then there's everyone else. Yep. 370 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:41,519 And all of us musicians know it. We all know they've been kicking our 371 00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:47,720 butts for sixty years and there's just nobody compares. You know, the stones 372 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,599 come close, so you know, one would argue you know that stones are 373 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,799 are as good or better. They're one are one A. There are definite 374 00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:57,640 two. There are definite two. I mean there are two different kinds of 375 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,559 bands. You know. The Stone were a live van. The Beatles are 376 00:28:02,599 --> 00:28:07,720 not alive van. So anyway, go ahead please. Yeah. So if 377 00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:08,799 I were to meet a Beatle in my life, you know, that would 378 00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:11,440 be like the Mountain top. So it actually happened, and that was, 379 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:18,200 oh gosh, in twenty thirteen. So eleven No. Twenty fourteen, about 380 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:23,039 eleven years ago, exactly March of twenty fourteen. A friend of mine is 381 00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:30,480 a psychiatrist, a renowned psychiatrist that worked with Michael Jackson apparently when he went 382 00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:33,400 to England. My friend's from England. His name's Brian Wells, doctor Brian 383 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,960 Wells, and he knew the guys in Zeppelin when he was hanging out with 384 00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:40,920 them. He went to Cambridge with Nick Drake, who's one of the great 385 00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:47,720 English singer songwriters. He died young, Brian and he's in all of Nick's 386 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,480 biographies and books and documentaries. So anyway, Brian Wells is a friend of 387 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,119 mine. He's about fifteen years older than me, I think. And Brian 388 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:03,200 is a big speaker for Alcoholics Anonymous, and so Ringo and his wife attend 389 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,160 Alcoholics Anonymous, and so there's a big one in Beverly Hills that Ringo attendants 390 00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:10,599 and Brian said he was staying with us and said, do you want to 391 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,400 want to meet him? And I said heck yeah. So he brought me 392 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:18,759 down and to Beverly Hills to a meeting, and then Brian went up and 393 00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:22,839 spoke. Ringo showed up with his wife, Barbara Bark and he's sitting there 394 00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:26,000 and I'm looking at the back of his head like a stalker. Can't believe 395 00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:32,960 a beadle is in the room, and so ring Brian. At the end, 396 00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:37,079 Brian and Ringo were talking because he knows Ringo, and so they were 397 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,880 kind of talking a little bit, and I decided, okay, I'm going 398 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,680 to get up and go that direction. And they're standing over there by a 399 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,599 table and Brian sees me and says, Matt, come here, meet Richard, 400 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,200 Richard Starkey, meet Richard. He doesn't go by Ringo when he's there, 401 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,319 and Ringo said, it nice to meet you, Mana, and I 402 00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:57,200 said, this is my first meeting. Oh no, Brian told Ringo, 403 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,440 this is Matt's first meeting, and Ringo says, come here, Matt, 404 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,839 and he holds out his arms and he gives me a hug. And so 405 00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:11,079 I'm hugging Ringo Starr, you know, and my mind is just you know, 406 00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:14,960 work screwing. Uh. So I decided to try to talk, which 407 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,960 was stupid of me. And so I said, I used to play in 408 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,519 a band called Counting Crows, and he goes, counting Crows. I used 409 00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:26,240 to play in a little band myself, Matt. Let me think about that 410 00:30:26,319 --> 00:30:30,000 for a second. He knows what he is. He knows is yeah, 411 00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:36,559 yeah, exactly right, yeah yeah, and uh and he knows what he 412 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,279 is. He knows he's a mind screw. He knows that that nobody compares. 413 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,880 He knows it all. Yeah, and he plays, you know, 414 00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:45,799 and and God loved him. It was awesome I got to meet him. 415 00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:49,119 I remember you said, I'm all of a sudden smelling a Beetles sweater. 416 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:55,640 Right, you're very sweat I mean, yeah, I smelling the sweater. 417 00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,720 Yeah, I'm thinking, what does Ringo smell like? Broccy? I guess 418 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,559 he eats a lot of broccoli. Well that's wild. I mean, it's 419 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,000 kind of funny. I've seen him. I was backstage at a Ringo concert 420 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:08,839 once and he like kind of ran by me, you know what I mean. 421 00:31:10,319 --> 00:31:12,279 But it's that moment you say, Wow, there's the guy. You 422 00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:15,519 know, here's the guy. That's him. You see him in movies, 423 00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:18,319 you hear him, but here's the real guy. It was kind of cool. 424 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,440 It was kind of cool. Why don't we do this? Why don't 425 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,079 we take an awesome ad break? What do you say to Lois? This 426 00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:29,680 is a good time for ad break, all right? And you're listening to 427 00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:33,960 Mac maloney's musical xtyles here on the distance under Radio Network. The whole gang 428 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:40,759 say, please stay tuned. Hey Mac Maloney fans, this is Pistol Pete 429 00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:45,480 and I'm sitting here with the one and only Mac Maloney. Hi, Mac 430 00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:48,920 HiPE. Now, Mac, you've got a new book out called How to 431 00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:52,279 Dump a Body at Sea and Not Get Caught that you wrote with our pal, 432 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,440 famous crime novelist Mark Zappula. How did this whole thing come about? 433 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,319 Well, Mack and I have this mutual friend that we go out having beers 434 00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:04,359 with it every once in a while, and he had the same twenty stories 435 00:32:04,359 --> 00:32:06,759 that he would tell us kind of over and over again, and at some 436 00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:08,440 point I said, you know, we should write these down, and we 437 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,920 did and it turned into a book. It's such a crazy title. How'd 438 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,640 you come up with it? Well, kind of the same thing. We're 439 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,960 in talking to this friend of ours one night and he just said, you 440 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,400 know how to get rid of a body sea? And I can taught, 441 00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:23,279 And of course we didn't know, and so he told us. And the 442 00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:25,880 secret is in the book. But I can say that it involves a lot 443 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,240 of chainling fence and some crabs. Now, Mac, you gave me an 444 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,039 advanced copy of the book, and like I said before, it's one of 445 00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:37,839 the funniest things I've ever read. It reminded me of the Sopranos, if 446 00:32:37,839 --> 00:32:40,440 the Sopranos had a laugh track. Thanks Pete. But it also gives you 447 00:32:40,519 --> 00:32:45,359 instructions on how to do some pretty shady stuff, stuff not exactly legal. 448 00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:50,000 Well, yeah, the book is about the true life adventures of a druvenile 449 00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:53,319 to Linklin growing up in Boston in the late nineteen eighties, So you get 450 00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:57,079 a lot of the inside stuff, like the best way to steal a car, 451 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,400 the best way to burn aca, how to make fake eye, these 452 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,519 things like that, but in one chapter you actually tell people how to turn 453 00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:07,039 an old, broken down Toyota into a brand new Rolls Royce in five easy 454 00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:10,640 steps and it actually works. Yeah, I know it sounds crazy. I 455 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,440 didn't believe it until I saw the proof, but yes, it actually works. 456 00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:16,319 Now, one last question. There's a lot of laughs in the book, 457 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:22,680 but also a lot of pretty crazy stuff legal and illegal. Is it 458 00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:27,599 really all true? It's really all true, but on the advice of a 459 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,279 publisher, they've asked us not the same thing beyond that for legal reason. 460 00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:35,359 But yes, it is all true. Well thanks Mac. That's how to 461 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,039 dump a body at sea and not get caught, The al Ferrari story by 462 00:33:39,160 --> 00:34:21,000 Mac and crime writer Mark Zippula. Get it today on Amazon. Welcome back, 463 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,719 And we went to Maclony's musical X Founds Here on the Distant Thunder Radio 464 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,360 Network. Hey, this is maccaloney. Wow, what a show so far 465 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,159 we have for you. Very quickly, let me introduce the members of the 466 00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:35,280 gang. Here girls, you see you across the pond, the very famous 467 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,840 one. One. Hello girls, Hello everybody, Oh Marc, good to 468 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:45,599 be here. Everything okay, yep, when do those hedgehogs come out? 469 00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:51,000 Of hibernation. You're not a hibernation right now? Okay, do you want 470 00:34:51,039 --> 00:34:52,719 me to just break the news to you now? You want to rip the 471 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:58,360 band aid off? Now? Well? Did that? It depends on how 472 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:04,800 big that band aid is. I've been I've been asked so many times to 473 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,920 be on the hedgehog lookout patrol, yes, and sending any videos and just 474 00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:16,760 kind of report okay, uh, daytime and location of hedgehogs. You know 475 00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:22,280 where I used to live had hedgehogs in my backyard, yes, right, 476 00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:23,639 yeah, huh, And I was taking care of them. I was feeding 477 00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:27,400 them, and I had a nice hibernation hot for them in the whole deal. 478 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,039 But in the flat where we live now, in a big apartment complex, 479 00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:32,960 yes right, I don't have that situation. Won't they come to visit 480 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,559 you? No? They did? They did? Oh they are they showed 481 00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:39,360 up? Did they? Well? Not here in the flat where I live 482 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:46,679 now, because it's it's a it's the apartment complex. Okay. Hedgehogs walking 483 00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:52,760 around interesting? Unfortunately it should be, But there are us habitat for them. 484 00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:57,119 Should be because it's out of the traffic too. I don't know, 485 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,239 right, Well, we should import some hedgehog. It really does. There's 486 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:06,039 all kinds of grounds where they could hide and forage, and the solution is 487 00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:09,639 bring more in. Yeah, okay, that kind of missed my old cottage. 488 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,920 Well, I'll tell you it's it's tough luck. If they meet a 489 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,559 Michelin, they don't. I don't think the woman that moved into the cottage 490 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:22,880 after us is into hedgehogs. I tried to find out from the owner of 491 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,679 the cottage, and I left all the equipment. Let's say, no instructions. 492 00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:30,920 I don't know. She's a single mother and I think she has better 493 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:36,519 things. Okay, Well, keep us update anyway. I'm trying to pivot 494 00:36:36,559 --> 00:36:40,320 away to Rob for our music journalist's friend, Rob, thanks to joining us, 495 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,360 Thanks for having me love it once again to paint the picture a young 496 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:52,119 Stanley Tucci. Okay, I think we decided that a thrift store version. 497 00:36:52,880 --> 00:37:00,119 Okay, all right, Also with us in the studio, take us some 498 00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:04,519 time off from our busy schedule. Oh very busy, never too busy for 499 00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:08,039 I'm a president of the Elton John Fan Club and the Elvis Costello Fan Club. 500 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:14,480 Lovely Lois, let me start that again. The very lovely Lewis laye 501 00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:21,840 eis Hi everyone, It's good to be here. Lewis astely lois everyone. 502 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,800 Okay, so, just very quickly, just tell us the Elton John story 503 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,480 you wrote. You wrote a letter to him. First of all, we 504 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,519 just talked about the last we have new listeners. He cares. It was 505 00:37:32,559 --> 00:37:38,599 silly. I was in sixth grade, loved every listened to every single word 506 00:37:38,679 --> 00:37:44,639 of every single album, have them all memorized. Big fan. And you 507 00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:51,000 know, being twelve, you know I was with a singer, and so 508 00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:55,880 I wrote him a letter saying, you know, I love you. Okay, 509 00:37:57,199 --> 00:38:00,039 I don't remember what else you have met? Prenup. Did you want 510 00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:05,840 to pretend I simply said, you know, I'm going to write back to 511 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,079 you in six months. I'm going to pause right here and write back, 512 00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:16,320 I still love you. You know. I did still really like him, 513 00:38:16,519 --> 00:38:20,840 but I never did send the letter. Oh so you are the one to 514 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,639 win. That's why we're not married. No other reason, no other reason. 515 00:38:23,679 --> 00:38:27,360 What other reason could they be? Wait a minute, did you were 516 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,440 in the sixth grade? You said yes, yes, but you didn't send 517 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:36,239 the letter? Then No, No, I wouldn't know how you know back 518 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,519 then? Yeah, if he said yes, then a lot. You know, 519 00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:42,159 it was just so it was just a little guy. I don't even 520 00:38:42,199 --> 00:38:44,639 know why I ever told you. I just say something so we can talk 521 00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:45,519 about it. Yeah, let me just say this, okay. Let me 522 00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:51,519 introduce also good friends up there at Edmonton, Canada, Kim and Sarah Shay. 523 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,360 Thanks you, I said, joining us. Also a good friend I 524 00:38:54,519 --> 00:39:00,679 Hally Matt Malley out there in the West Coast. Matt Mally basis for me? 525 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,320 I mean, is it do you want that in your bio? Is 526 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,840 that how you want to be introduced there? Yeah? Sure, it seems 527 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,760 like the biggest thing I did. I guess. Yeah, by the man 528 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,760 who is just like Robert Planter, who for a while they're disavowed being in 529 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,840 led Zeppelin kind of made a kind of goofy kind of attitude. All right, 530 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,800 Rob that if you kind of do that for a while. Yeah, 531 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,760 He's like, if you come to the show, you're only going to hear 532 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:31,920 two Zeppelin songs and they're both going to be done on c tar. Yeah, 533 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,320 we'll take whatever we can get at this point. It's okay. By 534 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,320 the way, I think Math plays the sitar, don't you. I play 535 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:42,079 Indian slide guitar. It's different. It's it's like, uh, inspired by 536 00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:45,519 Hawaiian slide guitar. Some guy brought it to India in the sixties. Then 537 00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:49,880 they started playing racasanas, so it's a new instrument in Indiana. It's only 538 00:39:50,639 --> 00:39:53,599 old. Yeah, that's fantastic. Yeah, story too, when you're ready. 539 00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:59,920 Nice yeah, Mack, you want to know the story? And Lewis, 540 00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:02,079 yes, please go okay, ten o'clock in the morning. I'll make 541 00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:06,599 it quicker at ten o'clock in the morning. In two thousand and two, 542 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,400 I go down to Hollywood and end up at Tower Records on Sunset Bulevardos. 543 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:15,920 It was kind of an iconic place to shop for a record and I'm going 544 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,880 down the island. Right behind me a little too close is this bronze Roman 545 00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:24,679 bodyguard guy with just perfect skin and muscles and just this he looked like a 546 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,239 model, and he's carrying a basket and he was a little too close to 547 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,599 me, and I'm trying to just I'm going down the aisle and I just 548 00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:35,199 kind of annoyed, and so I just got out of the way. And 549 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,639 then I went to another aisle and realized right with him was Elton John and 550 00:40:38,639 --> 00:40:43,480 that was his bodyguard. Oh oh wow. And yes, and Elton is 551 00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:45,840 just tossing CDs into this basket that this guy's holding. Yeah yeah, yeah, 552 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,440 yeah, that's already shocked. Did he mention do? Did he mention 553 00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:55,199 Lois? He talked about somebody she really loved him? But wow, huh? 554 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,199 Okay, yeah. Well, hey, if if Dalton John needs records 555 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,119 here, you go to Tower Records. You know. Well I didn't. 556 00:41:02,199 --> 00:41:06,280 I didn't. I didn't speak to him except at the end that decided, 557 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,159 Okay, I got to do something Selton John. So I waited. I 558 00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:14,400 went and picked up a CD by an Indian Kohali singer. No, a 559 00:41:14,519 --> 00:41:17,719 Pakistani Kali singer that I love is named murs Ali Khan. He's a singer, 560 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,519 yes, and he's awesome. And I bought this and thought, I'm 561 00:41:21,519 --> 00:41:22,599 going to get this for Elton John. I'm going to give it to him. 562 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,079 So I waited for them. I held it in my hand and waited 563 00:41:25,079 --> 00:41:28,679 for them to start heading for the cash resser and I and I cut them 564 00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:31,400 off at the pass, got to the just during the front, bought it 565 00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:35,480 and then turned around and said thank you for your music. And it was 566 00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:37,280 really nice and the kind of pated me on the shoulder, said thanks, 567 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,119 you know, and his body I just I by passed the bodyguard everything he 568 00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:44,639 did. Buddy, guy didn't beat the ship out of you. That's good 569 00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:52,760 Win Win Lucas. Like in a hundred years, like in a like in 570 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,280 five hundred years, I mean you can probably count on your hand how many 571 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,039 music you know, today's music people have to be listening to. Let's say 572 00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:04,239 people listen to music in five hundred years. It's gonna be the Beatles, 573 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,559 it's gonna be the rolling style, but it's gonna be Mosat and it's gonna 574 00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:10,039 be all that. I think someone's music who's gonna last a long time is 575 00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:15,199 Elton John's. I think Elton John is gonna be kind of like who's the 576 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:21,000 guy who wrote you know, like almost like old Americana songs. I'm not 577 00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:22,440 it's not a good it's not a good comparison, but it's like songs that 578 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:27,800 you cannot will you him too? But but songs that kind of take, 579 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,760 you know, stand the test of time. I'm gonna say, even the 580 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,719 way they were recorded and bury me in a long Yeah. Yeah like that, 581 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,880 you know, funny, it's funny. Who will be remembered. Let's 582 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:45,400 see, let me tell my story. I'll tell my story Warwick combination. 583 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:52,519 I had it some timeless Sorry Lois has something to say. No, I 584 00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:57,400 just said, yes, you didn't tell your story yet. After your story, 585 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,519 I have a little update, like a little surprise for everybody. Oh 586 00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:06,559 surprise, Okay, Luckily, luckily I'm the only one in the studio. 587 00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:09,519 All right, I mean, you know, I just went through my head 588 00:43:09,559 --> 00:43:13,880 today about you know, different stories. I can tell they told this story 589 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,039 a long time ago. And I don't want to you know, out rock 590 00:43:16,039 --> 00:43:20,639 style, your rockstar story, but your nice rockstar story. But this is 591 00:43:20,679 --> 00:43:24,800 what happened. So I don't know. Probably about fifteen years ago. For 592 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:30,519 a while, I was the A and IL guy for a label in London 593 00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:35,960 called voice Print Records, and basically eight out is if you hear anything, 594 00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:39,880 send it to us and maybe we'll record it. And basically what they're thinking, 595 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,480 well, Matt, you know, right, you run voice Print. 596 00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:45,719 That's all Matt and I met. And they would do they would take like 597 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:51,159 a lot of kind of obscure recordings and stuff like that and re released them 598 00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:53,800 and stuff, you know, and they re released a lot of like oh 599 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:59,559 things, from Yes and just a lot of prog stuff and the guy rub 600 00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:02,719 ailing good taste, kind of hot to get a hold of sometimes, but 601 00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:09,320 a good guy, nice guy. So anyway, in between all that, 602 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:14,400 I had also become the PR guy for Patrick Morass. Patrick Moras is the 603 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,880 guy keyboard player well known among that kind of the lead. It would be 604 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:23,719 like Rick Wakeman, Keith Emerson, and Patrick Morass almost all in the same 605 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:30,199 breath, same kind of rituals. Classically trained keyboard player now working with electronic 606 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:37,119 keyboards. So he was in Yes for three years, he was in the 607 00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:43,360 Moody Blues for eleven years, and we got to know him just by virtual 608 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,119 being his PR guy. So anyway, one day I must get an email 609 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:53,000 from a guy and he's a stockbroker in Philadelphia, and he says, you 610 00:44:53,039 --> 00:45:00,320 don't know me, but I understand you're the PR guy for you know, 611 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:05,480 the PI guy Fall Yes. And I says, well, I'm a PIA 612 00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:07,760 guy Fall one of the guys who used to be in Yes. He goes, 613 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,639 look at this friend of mine, young guy is having some medical issues 614 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,920 and he's a huge YES in and in Philly. Yes is huge in Philly. 615 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:21,159 That's like the big that's the center of the universe. So and if 616 00:45:21,199 --> 00:45:23,360 you've never heard a Yes, google them. Okay, they're a progressive rock 617 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:28,920 band, great musicianship at the beginning, and they hung on in various ways. 618 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:34,079 But anyway, so he says to me, can you get just any 619 00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:38,639 kind of He wanted them to send him CODs. Okay, get well CODs. 620 00:45:38,679 --> 00:45:44,599 And this guy is starting chemotherapy. He's twenty four years old. So 621 00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:49,679 I know the guy who does the publicity for the rest of Yes, and 622 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,199 I passed the message on to him, and then I passed it on to 623 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:57,400 Patrick Moress because this guy said past is one of his favorites. And I 624 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,679 can see Matt, Matt, you know the kind of guy Patrick is, 625 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:06,800 right, you can imagine this, right. So Rick Wakeman sent the guy 626 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:14,599 a fax. I think Steve Howe sent him something that was it. The 627 00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:20,800 other guys didn't, and Alan White and his wife sent him something. Mara 628 00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:25,679 has found out the guy's chemo schedule, and when he was all set up 629 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,960 in the bed to do it, put our headphones on. I get a 630 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,599 little choked up talk of them and played yes song It was for the guy 631 00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:40,719 and the piano for his entire I know, you choke up talking about Yeah, 632 00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:44,760 yeah, he did that. And then the then the guy died. 633 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,880 He died, think about a month later. That beautiful moment. Yeah, 634 00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:52,199 that's beautiful. But that's him, that's it. And he said to me, 635 00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:55,039 he said to me, don't ever tell anybody, don't any We don't 636 00:46:55,039 --> 00:46:58,800 want anyone to know this because we don't want to make the other guys to 637 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,000 look bad, one of the reasons. But I said, you know, 638 00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:05,480 it's just a nice gesture, nice gesture. Yeah, yeah, very classy. 639 00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:08,199 Yeah awesome, Yeah, that was nice. Okay, does anyone have 640 00:47:08,199 --> 00:47:13,800 a funny rock question? Sometimes you said, you know, maybe it's from 641 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:21,320 the media or something that because you're a rock star, you're a pompous a, 642 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:28,159 you know, but really they're people too. Okay, rock stars your 643 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,320 nice too, and rock stars well, last one, you have one sitting 644 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,360 here, I mean, Matt, I mean in your is it just like 645 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,199 how society is fifty sent the people are okay, fifty center assholes, right, 646 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:45,760 I mean, is it that higher ratio? Sure, the rock world 647 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,400 is littered with a host but it's also as really good people. You know, 648 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,079 the Rolling all the Rolling Stones were completely good people, genuinely nice people. 649 00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:57,679 Met the Rolling Stones? Where was that in Vienna? Where was that? 650 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,199 And you toured with the Rolling Stones during Voodoo large? Is that correct? 651 00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:04,840 We did twelve or fourteen shows around in the middle of America with them, 652 00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:08,760 and so we were their dressing room area of the stadiums was always open 653 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,960 to the opening band, so we would go in there and play Snoopers and 654 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,239 you'd have Keith Richards and and you know, walking by and helping you with 655 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:25,119 a shot, you know, and help me with this. He is an 656 00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:30,840 awesome guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Stones, you know, 657 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:35,920 but then there's I won't name any names, but there are true jerks, 658 00:48:36,159 --> 00:48:39,840 and they're usually you know, why the Stones were so nice because they had 659 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:44,039 nothing to hide in there at the top of the mountain, and they're nice 660 00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:46,760 people. And that's also why they're there. They're nice people. The reason 661 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,920 anyone's an a hole, including rock stars and normal people, I think, 662 00:48:52,639 --> 00:48:55,760 not that I figured all this out for everybody, but my experience says that 663 00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:00,920 it's because they got something to hide. They've got their limitations and that talented 664 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,239 and they're up and so they're always on the defense. Yeah, funny, 665 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,519 interesting, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, something to hide. Or some 666 00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:12,719 insecurity that they're covering. Right, I guess that's the same thing, right. 667 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,440 I mean that whomely entertainment to be to want to be an entertainer takes 668 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,000 a certain kind of psyche, you know what I mean, And a lot 669 00:49:20,039 --> 00:49:23,800 of entertainers have, let's say, difficult childhoods or something like that. If 670 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:30,599 you ever read the Pete Townsend biography Who I Am? I read it out 671 00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:34,880 halfway through it and almost made me put it away. I mean, that 672 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,960 guy is just so I can't describe the word. It's amazing. He gets 673 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,480 up in functions every day. If you want to believe this the book, 674 00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:45,000 you know, he just had a lot of psychological problems because of what happened 675 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,280 when he was growing up. Most of you have a surprise for us for 676 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:55,840 well, I do. I have some questions that are maybe tricky for but 677 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,400 these people are all pretty well versed in music history, and I have some 678 00:50:01,519 --> 00:50:07,079 trivia questions about the Rolling Stones the cash prize. Here, you get a 679 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:15,199 round of applause. Ahead, you're not going to keep points or anything, 680 00:50:15,199 --> 00:50:19,159 We'll just sort of throw it out. And if it will keep points, 681 00:50:19,199 --> 00:50:22,679 well, do you want to make it like that's want to wage a on 682 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:27,599 it. Is that what you're trying to sign? Just if you know it 683 00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:29,599 and you want to try it? Or do you want to raise your hand? 684 00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:30,920 If you know it, do you want to do it that way? 685 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:36,400 You want everybody to give it a shot. We'll give everybody a chance to 686 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,119 answer it, okay, and then we'll tell the real answer. She's a 687 00:50:40,159 --> 00:50:44,239 fourth grade teacher, so she knows what she's doing how to corral people. 688 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:46,679 I like. I like how she said. We'll give everybody a chance to 689 00:50:46,679 --> 00:50:50,119 answer it, and then we'll give the real answer. Yeah right, Yeah. 690 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:57,880 Of course, maybe I don't know any of them, so maybe maybe 691 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:05,199 they're not I think. Okay, So question one, who did Brian Jones 692 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:13,039 introduce on stage at the nineteen sixty seven Monterey Pop Festival? Okay, I 693 00:51:13,039 --> 00:51:15,559 can give you a B and C. I hang on, hang on, 694 00:51:15,679 --> 00:51:19,480 Maybe people want to guess mister. The question again? Who did Brian Jones 695 00:51:19,639 --> 00:51:29,320 introduced for the Montrey the Festival in nineteen sixty Would you like choices? Yeah? 696 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:30,639 All right, we've got just give us the choices. Go ahead, 697 00:51:30,639 --> 00:51:38,440 Okay, So the choices are did Brian Jones introduce the who Robbie Shankar or 698 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:44,920 the Jimmy Hendricks experience. I think, yeah, I'm going to say Hendricks. 699 00:51:45,679 --> 00:51:47,960 It just seems about right. I mean, Matt, what do you 700 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,719 say you? For some reason, I think it might be Robbie Shankar if 701 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:57,360 I saw too, I think that really Yeah, let's find out, Well 702 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:02,559 did everybody answer yard? What do you say? Content the chase? Play 703 00:52:02,679 --> 00:52:06,920 real quick, Kim, Kim and Sarah? What do you say? I'm 704 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:12,159 going to say Jimmy Hendrix. I'm going to say Jimmy Hendrick. Yeah, 705 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:16,400 yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, let's go for five thousand dollars. 706 00:52:19,679 --> 00:52:22,159 The answer is the Jimmy Hendricks experience. Yeah, there's something in my 707 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:31,960 mind about there you go and that and that animal song Monter Ray Eric Burdons 708 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:37,199 song. He mentions Prince Jones walks among the crowd. He kind of like, 709 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:43,360 yeah, wow, oh did you ever do you ever see that documentary 710 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,840 where who had to take the stage after Hendrick said his guitar on fire is 711 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:54,039 the Mama's and the Poppas was so scared and how do you how do you 712 00:52:54,119 --> 00:52:58,639 follow that? I follow that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll tell 713 00:52:58,639 --> 00:53:00,679 you. I'll tell you quick. Jimmy Hendricks, I mean you know, 714 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,199 they keep on coming. So you know, when he was like really big 715 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,840 sixty seven, sixty eight or so, he was going to play a free 716 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:13,800 concert one one and rob, you'd appreciate a free concert in Boston common, 717 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,079 Okay, Jimmy Hendrix playing a free content in Boston, coming like the summer 718 00:53:17,159 --> 00:53:22,440 sixty eight maybe sixty nine, remember that. But I remember him touring with 719 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,280 the Monkey Huge Okay, this is way before. This is when he's a 720 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:30,199 big, big stop. Okay. So he had kind of a freak out 721 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:34,639 on the plane coming to Boston, who knows why, and they had a 722 00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:37,079 can they had to cancel the show, had to cancel the show. Okay, 723 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:43,119 okay. They had already put up like an entire ring of chain leak 724 00:53:43,199 --> 00:53:46,400 fence, you know, to kind of keep everybody in. So I'm in 725 00:53:46,519 --> 00:53:51,039 at the time, I worked for the City of Boston postapot and that's place 726 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:53,360 where he was going to play. And this guy called me and show me 727 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:58,760 a check and as a check from Jimmy Hendrick experience, you know, corporation 728 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,719 or some freaking thing, for sixteen thousand dollars to pay them for the fence. 729 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,760 Wow, you know, I want to know what that was in their 730 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,960 contract. Oh wow, but he paid them back for the fence they had 731 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,159 to put them up for Wow. Yeah, maybe you stoned at the Times? 732 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,440 Yeah? Signon? Was that going to be at the Esplanade? No, 733 00:54:15,559 --> 00:54:19,760 on the Boston Common, but Boston Common. Okay, think of that 734 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,400 for a second. Okay, what a what a mad scene that would have 735 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:27,039 been. It would be at the height of his powers? Yeah, okay, 736 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:34,000 okay, so love was number two. I actually think I know this 737 00:54:34,039 --> 00:54:37,480 one, so maybe it's easy. I don't know, but maybe I'm wrong. 738 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:45,119 So which Motown artists release? Oh? Which Motown artists released the original 739 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:52,079 version of Just My Imagination running Away with Me, which The Rolling Stones covered 740 00:54:52,119 --> 00:55:02,400 on their Some Girls album I Can Give You Choices take just stick? Maybe? 741 00:55:04,039 --> 00:55:06,760 Okay? Does I kind of know? I'm just going to say, 742 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,480 like the original? Maybe it's just the original. Okay, let's go around 743 00:55:09,519 --> 00:55:15,760 the rob You have got any idea who did that originally? H THEO the 744 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:20,280 Miracles? Right? Yeah? I don't want to say the Temptations because that 745 00:55:20,679 --> 00:55:22,039 do you want to hear? The choice? The choices? Yeah? Yeah, 746 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:27,400 I just thought us. Look, sorry, the Four Tops, the 747 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:36,559 Temptations or the Marvelettes, the Four Tops, Temptations just four Tops just my 748 00:55:36,679 --> 00:55:42,119 imagination? Yeah, four Tops? What do you say that the chaise? 749 00:55:44,039 --> 00:55:51,280 I thought it was the Family sly Stone, but I don't know. Temptations, 750 00:55:51,400 --> 00:56:00,320 Yeah, yes, it's the Temptations. Wow. Yeah, Props a 751 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,480 little more poppy in a way. I mean, if you can distinguish between 752 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:07,079 those two bands. But they used to exchange songs back and forth and the 753 00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:10,840 Miracles. Okay, next, please we all think what was the answer the 754 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:17,639 Temptations? Three people get Temptations? Yeah? Well yeah, steep Wagon air 755 00:56:19,159 --> 00:56:24,719 go ahead? Okay? On which TV show did the Stones appear during their 756 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:30,760 first US tour? On which the questions? Okay? On which TV show 757 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:37,360 did the Stones appear during their first US tour? I think I know this. 758 00:56:37,639 --> 00:56:40,280 Let me just say them. Wait a second, does anyone else know 759 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:45,880 this? Rob? Do you the First War one? You know, Matt 760 00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:49,679 and the first US appearance? Right? They might if they hear the choices? 761 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:57,880 So, okay, my guess is the Mike Douglas Show, So here 762 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,760 are the choices? The Dean Martin Show, the Sonny and Share Show, 763 00:57:02,079 --> 00:57:12,880 or the Ed Sullivan Show. It's so are people guessing? All right? 764 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,320 What do you I already lost, you're out of practice here. Yes, 765 00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:22,400 I think it was a Sullivan. I'm gonna say, yeah, okay, 766 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:31,920 actually the Dean Martin. I keep seeing that clip when they leave that when 767 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:37,760 they finished their song and they're walking off the stage after he says something stupid 768 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:42,079 to them, he kind of makes this disparaging remark. Yes, he took 769 00:57:42,119 --> 00:57:45,960 a swing at him. Did was probably at that. But I'll just tell 770 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,559 this littlely anecdote. Okay. The reason I said, Mike Douglas and I 771 00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:52,199 don't know why is that lowis you might want to leave the room for this 772 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,880 story. So this woman I used to work with that work with work for 773 00:57:57,039 --> 00:58:00,599 in college in the TV studio at the time. She was like a thirteen 774 00:58:00,679 --> 00:58:06,360 year old girl who won some kind of a radio contest to meet the Stones. 775 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:12,320 So it had to be sixty four, right, And they bring them 776 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:16,400 in and the Stones come in and Mick Jaggons goes right over to her and 777 00:58:16,519 --> 00:58:22,760 use her a French kiss. Hey, listen, get it over with quick. 778 00:58:23,159 --> 00:58:27,679 They just started counting the relationships. Yeah from there, right, okay, 779 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,800 yeah, right? They China Groves playing for that because that had to 780 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,960 be the tour that they did. Manning Bull and Lynn. Yeah, I 781 00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:39,480 like that. Yeah, high school soccer field. Yeah, so okay, 782 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:45,159 please that Lois? All right? Here is another one in our Stones to 783 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:53,239 your question air quiz Show sort of, which was the first Stones album to 784 00:58:53,360 --> 00:59:04,159 be composed entirely of Jagger Richard's songs. Okay, so think about it. 785 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,920 I'll say it again, which was the first Stones album to be composed entirely 786 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:16,239 of Jagger Richard's songs, and the choices are Aftermath, between the Buttons, 787 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:24,840 Beggars Banquet, Beggar this is. Yeah, I'm gonna say aftermath because I 788 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:31,480 think I've read something about this. Anyone of the chaise choices are Aftermath, 789 00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:42,320 after after Math. Yeah, I was gonna say Beggars Banquet. What do 790 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,840 you say, Mah, I said Begs Banquet, because doesn't after maths from 791 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:52,920 Home? Is that a McCartney a little something? Yeah? Yeah, but 792 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:58,360 there's something about aftermath. Please tell us, Lois, the answer is Aftermath. 793 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,239 Yeah. This and it didn't sell very well because they wrote the freaking 794 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:05,039 songs themselves, right, That's what kind of happened that part. I don't 795 01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:07,840 know, because one of their albums are just you know, old blue songs 796 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,199 and stuff like that. People like to hear them play, and then they 797 01:00:09,639 --> 01:00:13,199 just get better and they're writing, you know, they get the better in 798 01:00:13,239 --> 01:00:15,480 their writing, Like Midnight Rambler. They wrote that sat down. They know 799 01:00:15,559 --> 01:00:21,559 they had either of the song for a crowd for an audience, and that's 800 01:00:21,599 --> 01:00:23,719 a great song. The way they put that together. Aftermath didn't wow me 801 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:28,519 when it came out. I don't know why, but because I really enjoyed 802 01:00:28,519 --> 01:00:31,840 the way they performed Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley stuff. I like the way 803 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:37,199 they did Root sixty six. They took Root sixty six, the original artist 804 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,800 of Root sixty six. It's like a slow jazz number. Yeah, yeah, 805 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,000 yeah, yeah. The great video that went with it, by the 806 01:00:44,039 --> 01:00:49,039 way, Henry Minsine popped it up like crazy, and I loved it. 807 01:00:50,039 --> 01:00:52,480 Yeah, yeah, yeah, They're good. You know when they were if 808 01:00:52,519 --> 01:00:58,920 you read Bill Wyman's book What's That called the Stone a Stone Alone and the 809 01:00:59,039 --> 01:01:01,159 Stone Alone, tons of anecdotes, and they said that, you know, 810 01:01:01,199 --> 01:01:05,760 because they were on the Beatles wave. Now okay, that when they would 811 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,800 show up in play someplace that and there were usually smaller venues, the screaming 812 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:14,199 and the girls were just like out of control to the point you can't hear 813 01:01:14,239 --> 01:01:16,639 anything. So when they couldn't hear anything, they would play the Popeye theme. 814 01:01:17,519 --> 01:01:21,920 The would play the theme to the Popeye shot and just to prove that 815 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,960 no one could hear them. Yeah yeah, and that might have been in 816 01:01:24,039 --> 01:01:28,760 Keith's book. That might have been in Keith It is It's everywhere. Yeah, 817 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,239 yeah, that's funny that anecdote is like, and they played it and 818 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:35,639 nobody cared. No one did because no one heard it. Yeah yeah, 819 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:40,039 they probably even noticed. Okay, we go one more question almost, Okay, 820 01:01:40,239 --> 01:01:43,880 we go one more forever or just in a break, let's see what 821 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:49,159 happened? Oh, okay, because I have more Okay, you all right? 822 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:54,280 So so I just lost my little Okay, here we are, Okay, 823 01:01:54,360 --> 01:02:00,760 speak right into that. On which Beatles song did Brian Jones sing backing 824 01:02:01,079 --> 01:02:07,639 vocals? We know this, Okay, there's another trick question on which Beatles 825 01:02:07,639 --> 01:02:13,280 song did Brian Jones don't give us the answers yet, go ahead, okay, 826 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:17,599 On which Beatles song did Brian Jones sing backing vocals? M Okay, 827 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,840 all you need is love. I'm going to agree with that. Yes. 828 01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:28,320 Now, if the question was what Beatles song did Brian Jones play saxophone on, 829 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,079 it's not it's backing vocals. All right, what is it? What 830 01:02:31,159 --> 01:02:35,519 is it? Well? The choices are, hey, Jude, I am 831 01:02:35,559 --> 01:02:40,440 the Walrus or yellow submarine. Yellow submarine. That's what I thought to you. 832 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:50,079 Yeah, of course at the end, what's the answer, I'm gonna 833 01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:58,920 say yellow? It is yellow submarine? Yes, sorry, Robert. Now, 834 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,400 when they did All You Need Love, Mick Jagger is in that kind 835 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:07,039 of live presentation of that. But what Beatles song did Brian Jones by the 836 01:03:07,079 --> 01:03:19,199 saxophone on this is for the cheap Wagon? Here? Come on? Wowhon, 837 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,960 I'm Matt. You don't don't this, Matt, No, I can't 838 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:28,239 think of it. It's a very obscure Beatles song called you know my name? 839 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,400 Look up the number? You know my name? Oh yeah, wow, 840 01:03:31,639 --> 01:03:34,760 you know my name? Look up the number? Yeah, yeah, 841 01:03:35,119 --> 01:03:38,800 yeah, I know that very well. You know you know my name? 842 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:43,719 Yeah yeah. It's a really bizarre kind of get stoned and put it on 843 01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,000 the potty thing and say who's this? But there is a sax break in 844 01:03:46,039 --> 01:03:50,079 it, and he Brian Jones is a weird guy. I mean, he 845 01:03:50,199 --> 01:03:53,880 was a very very it rocks out that people didn't like. I mean, 846 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:58,360 he was. I just went out of his way to make people's lives miserable. 847 01:03:58,719 --> 01:04:02,639 He fathered five children by five different women. In almost every case, 848 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:08,719 he moved in with the woman woman in her family's house, got a pregnant, 849 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,360 and then left her. That happened like three or four times to this 850 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:15,920 guy. And and and he had a big and he and he couldn't handle 851 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:19,079 drugs in his family was a problem growing up. His father was a rich 852 01:04:19,199 --> 01:04:23,480 jet engine designer, and he was kind of you know, it wasn't lower 853 01:04:23,519 --> 01:04:28,079 class. But he could play anything. He's one of these freaking guys who 854 01:04:28,079 --> 01:04:31,119 can just pick up something and just play anything. You know. Yeah, 855 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,159 wow, yeah, too bad. And it's too bad what happened to him, 856 01:04:34,159 --> 01:04:36,599 because and he looked like a rock star. Didn't he look like a 857 01:04:36,679 --> 01:04:39,639 rock star if he was a good guy. I mean, you know, 858 01:04:39,679 --> 01:04:44,000 he just looked he just had that sixties rock style looked well. Didn't he 859 01:04:44,559 --> 01:04:46,280 hang out with the band after they fired him, each show up in a 860 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:51,320 studio just to be with them, just to show up. Yeah, yeah, 861 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:57,159 that's kind of sad. But I remember the joint Lennon or George Harrison 862 01:04:57,199 --> 01:05:00,679 said, when when the phone and ring and was he You just didn't want 863 01:05:00,719 --> 01:05:04,440 to pick it up because he was just kind of a sad sack type guy, 864 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:10,079 you know, if a rock stock can be that, you know. 865 01:05:10,199 --> 01:05:15,000 But anyway, low As, you have one more question, So do just 866 01:05:15,039 --> 01:05:18,719 to bring the mood up? I do, yeah, because that was well, 867 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,679 I'm not reading the choices to this one. You would have to read 868 01:05:23,719 --> 01:05:26,280 the choices. Oh, this should be good? Should I read it? 869 01:05:27,199 --> 01:05:32,239 Okay? What was originally planned? I'm sorry for everybody listening to this a 870 01:05:32,239 --> 01:05:38,239 little gross? What was originally planned to pop out of the jeans zipper on 871 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:45,239 the cover of the Sticky Fingers album but was too costly? Too costly? 872 01:05:45,119 --> 01:05:49,400 All right? So the Sticky Fingers album and the album cover is literally a 873 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:54,400 man a zipper like a fly, okay, like a fly, and you 874 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:58,320 would open it up and it's a it's a real zipper. And then you'd 875 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,920 open it up and what there was a picture of milk then with his tongue 876 01:06:00,239 --> 01:06:03,119 hang on or something. What was behind the zipper? Should we say? 877 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:08,679 Was it a was it? Did they do that? It's like a BBD 878 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:14,119 underwear? Oh that's right, okay, the Italian all right, so that's 879 01:06:14,199 --> 01:06:15,960 right, yes, okay, so now here are the choices. You're ready? 880 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,599 No one known as guessed? Hello, So please guest I'm looking at 881 01:06:19,639 --> 01:06:27,159 it. Okay, I'm m hmm. A small plaster cast, a balloon, 882 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:35,119 or a plastic male appendage. I just said that, penis look most 883 01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:39,719 of this, gi those once again? Do that again? Please? A 884 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:44,159 small plaster cast okay, hang on, hang on, A small plastic cast 885 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,159 of plaster cast of I don't know, probably not a think go ahead, 886 01:06:50,639 --> 01:06:58,639 A balloon that would have been funny, or a plastic you know now, 887 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,840 I don't know, and I'm saying balloon because anything else you put in there 888 01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:09,719 it just made the packaging. The packaging was already pretty expensive and elaborate. 889 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:14,280 Yet it was what's the answer, hunt? I mean, I mean lowis 890 01:07:17,079 --> 01:07:20,480 you know what? I don't have the answer. No, because she said 891 01:07:20,519 --> 01:07:25,480 it was too expensive, So I guess it was the most expensive option, 892 01:07:25,599 --> 01:07:30,119 which I think it's. I don't have the answer to that one. I'm 893 01:07:30,159 --> 01:07:36,320 sorry what happened? I don't know it up? Well, were you taking 894 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:40,079 a break or you just taking a break from this? Well take a break. 895 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,199 Well, let's you want to take break, We'll take an emergency. 896 01:07:42,199 --> 01:07:46,840 You had break head to get outside stuff. You're listening to mc maloney's musical 897 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,480 x FYLE show here on the Distant Thunder Radio Network. The whole gang is 898 01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:57,760 here. Please stay tuned. My dad, he's a double amputee and with 899 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,119 one of my favorite people in the world. To be a hero is someone 900 01:08:01,159 --> 01:08:04,360 who fights for a country and for you. My dad is a hero. 901 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:10,079 Opos for our Troops built his house and my dad can get through the wide 902 01:08:10,159 --> 01:08:14,800 doorways, she can reach anything. Homes for our Troops build and donate specially 903 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:18,479 adapted custom homes nationwide for severely injured Post nine eleven veterans and enables them to 904 01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:53,520 rebuild their lives. Join our mission at HFOTUSA dot org. Welcome back if 905 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,680 we went to back alone, these musical X files here on the Distant Thundum 906 01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,680 Radio Network. This is McLarney. Well what a show this is tonight, 907 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,760 But let me introduce the co conspirators. I'm going to start here on the 908 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:06,960 studio with us very lowly. Lowis Lane is helping out tonight. Lois Hi, 909 01:09:08,079 --> 01:09:11,760 everyone, it's great to be here. Thank you for the applause. 910 01:09:13,199 --> 01:09:16,039 Okay, we'll put that in later. How was things with you? Lols? 911 01:09:16,079 --> 01:09:19,279 You're doing your homework there. No, I'm keeping track of all the 912 01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:25,159 things going on in the show. Oh wow, okay, and on top 913 01:09:25,159 --> 01:09:29,199 of getting rid of all the empty cans before we leave, well your empty 914 01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:35,279 cans. Yes, I am on period around the track. Yeah. Anyway. 915 01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:40,640 Also with us is across the puddle is very famous. One one one, 916 01:09:41,239 --> 01:09:44,039 Hey, hello everybody, welcome back to the show. It's been a 917 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,920 hoot riot so far. I love it musical show. Also, what joining 918 01:09:48,039 --> 01:09:55,359 us is Matt Malley. Matt Maley out there and Matt Malley out there in 919 01:09:55,840 --> 01:10:00,880 thousand Oaks, California, right, Matt, beautiful two thousand ups. You 920 01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,840 come here for the weather, not the culture. Oh that's good. Good 921 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:10,000 to hear. Okay. And you you live in a guy named Bruce. 922 01:10:10,319 --> 01:10:13,680 You bought the house from Bruce Sweden. Is that how you say his name? 923 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,680 Sweden, the legendary record producer. He died. He well engineer, 924 01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:24,359 a recording engineer first, and then he became Quincy Jones' recording engineer and produced 925 01:10:24,359 --> 01:10:28,960 a couple of Michael Jackson records, Barbara streisand Paul McCartney. So I bought 926 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,399 his house and in the back is a freestanding studio building that my son has 927 01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:35,479 taken over because he's an audio engineer. Okay, happy to get you. 928 01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:43,800 Yes. Also Rob for our music journalists joining us. Hey, so happy 929 01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:45,920 to be here. Have a fun time tonight. Everybody's that's good, great 930 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:51,640 to chat with. Also the Chay's up there in Edmonton, Canada. Okay, 931 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:58,640 everyone, nice to be here. Where you're northwarre penguins right they Yeah, 932 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:08,000 well there's no penguins the Antarctica. Yeah there, Yeah, in the 933 01:11:08,119 --> 01:11:13,880 UK to looking for postal workers at the Antarctica. Really, yes, really, 934 01:11:14,399 --> 01:11:16,079 there's a lot of penguins running around the place down there. Yeah. 935 01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:21,359 Got a job. I don't know what it pays, but got to pay 936 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:26,319 really well man, as it turns out. So so tonight we're just sitting 937 01:11:26,319 --> 01:11:30,159 around. We're talking about music and different music we like, and different anecdotes 938 01:11:30,199 --> 01:11:34,239 and stuff like that. And but Lowis has to report on the answer to 939 01:11:34,319 --> 01:11:39,760 the last trivia question that got a little lost in the cosmos here. So 940 01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:46,439 the question was, when you open up the zipper on the what's the name 941 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:50,079 of the album and Sticky Things? When you open up the zipper on the 942 01:11:50,239 --> 01:11:55,920 Rolling Stone Sticky Fingers album, it's a real zip like a fly? What 943 01:11:56,159 --> 01:12:01,319 is behind that? Okay? And the traces were a Alex symbol, also 944 01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:08,079 a cast, a plastic cast, and a balloon. Okay, so I'm 945 01:12:08,119 --> 01:12:12,479 going to say it seems like I would remember this. I'm going to say 946 01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:16,239 a balloon because that's like the cheapest thing to put in there. Well actually, 947 01:12:16,359 --> 01:12:20,119 yeah, so what was originally originally planned? I got the whole question 948 01:12:20,199 --> 01:12:25,079 wrong, and they were but it was too costly because there was the zipper 949 01:12:25,159 --> 01:12:27,359 there as well. All right, okay, so what was supposed to be 950 01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,800 there? Right? What was? It? Was a balloon? Or it 951 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:32,199 was a balloon? Okay? So I was wrong even though I was right, 952 01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:42,159 I got it right. Yeah, okay, I said balloon. So 953 01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:45,920 I'm going to throw this to the shade. I introduced everyone, right, 954 01:12:45,319 --> 01:12:48,920 So I'm going to ask the shade. So you mentioned earlier talking about Johnny 955 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:55,000 Mitchell. Earlier, she's considered the queen, the music queen of Canada. 956 01:12:55,079 --> 01:13:00,000 What you saying, well, mostly just in this part realism because she's from 957 01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,239 for McLeod, Alberta. Right, Yeah, we're pretty proud of her. 958 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:08,439 Yeah, I mean, so she enjoys a larger reputation. Let's say here 959 01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:12,399 in Alberta maybe than you know, say, Atlantic Canada. Oh are you 960 01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,680 right? So Atlantic? So all those mooks in Atlantic Canada they just don't 961 01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:17,840 get it. Is that what you're trying to say. No, they have 962 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:24,720 their own stars, like Ashley mcaiaac or Rita McNeil. Macawane was another one. 963 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,520 Macha Wan's from Edmonton too, And she used to hang out with Jimmy 964 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,760 Hendrix because she knew all the folk music. And I guess they used to 965 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,800 go off together in New York and sit and listen to folk music and she 966 01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:40,520 used to they shared something there from back when he was younger, something like 967 01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:44,760 that. It was an interesting story that meant passed away. A couple of 968 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:50,119 years ago we lost her. Jimmy Hendrix played in Greenwich Village and he played 969 01:13:50,119 --> 01:13:57,319 in a band with Randy California of Spirit, and he gave Randy California his 970 01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,720 name because in this band there were two Randy so one of them was, 971 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:02,039 you know, Randy Jones. And then he said, I got to remember 972 01:14:02,039 --> 01:14:08,279 your name, so Randy California, Randy California kept that name. Brilliant guitarist 973 01:14:08,399 --> 01:14:13,800 and Spirit. As we said earlier, is this kind of sixties jazz something, 974 01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,880 but they were really good. And then he died and tried. He 975 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:24,920 died saving his son from drowning in Hawaii. Yes, yeah, it's terrible. 976 01:14:25,199 --> 01:14:29,560 Yea a story those can you get us out of the depth of the 977 01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:35,800 depression? They did an you think a balloon? Was the balloon? It 978 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:41,439 was just an interesting little one. In two thousand and nine, who presented 979 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:48,039 Keith Richards with the Rock Immortal Award during the Scream Awards held at the Greek 980 01:14:48,119 --> 01:14:53,119 Theater in Los Angeles, California. That was a lot. Let me say, 981 01:14:53,399 --> 01:14:57,840 did he know he was there? In two thousand and nine, who 982 01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:04,640 presented Keith Richards with the Rock Immortal Award during the Scream Awards held at the 983 01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:12,720 Greek Theater in Los Angeles, California. Two thousands and it was I'll give 984 01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:19,119 you the choice. Let's see if anyone cash, it's going to be someone 985 01:15:19,239 --> 01:15:28,920 like that. Go ahead, Rob no idea rob Johnny Depp? Good, 986 01:15:29,399 --> 01:15:32,399 okay, all right, that's actually really good. Yeah answer, go ahead, 987 01:15:32,399 --> 01:15:36,800 Please to say it is John Depp. Johnny, let's clap for rob 988 01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:50,159 ok for the girls. Thanks, here's what's gonna be on my side. 989 01:15:50,199 --> 01:15:55,600 Thank you. We can talk about Johnny Depp like a little bit and and 990 01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,520 one one and I have talked about him, you know, a lot, 991 01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,119 as it turns out. But here's the thing about Johnny Depp. He's not 992 01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,920 as a musician, okay, who came to Hollywood and got on TV and 993 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:08,159 then in movies. And when you see him play, like with the Hollywood 994 01:16:08,199 --> 01:16:13,640 Vampires or anything like that, the guys that he plays with wouldn't let him 995 01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,039 play if he couldn't play, do you know what I mean? Jeff Beck 996 01:16:16,079 --> 01:16:20,319 wouldn't let this freaking move on the stage if he couldn't play. And Jeff 997 01:16:20,359 --> 01:16:24,760 Beck's one of little green plays ever, so he does play. He does 998 01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,880 play a different kind of weird way, kind of a odd rhythm, but 999 01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:32,119 he knows what he's doing. And they said he go over his house and 1000 01:16:32,119 --> 01:16:36,199 there's no pictures of movie posters or anything. It's all like guitars hanging up, 1001 01:16:36,279 --> 01:16:40,720 you know. The movies is just his his job in a way. 1002 01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:47,119 Yeah, interesting guy. And the guy can play too. Because I did 1003 01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:55,800 see the Hollywood Vampires last summer in Birmingham, UK, I'm thinking, you 1004 01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:59,039 know, maybe he's going to mail it in because he two weeks prior to 1005 01:16:59,199 --> 01:17:02,720 that show. He had this foot problem and he was laid up a little 1006 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:08,479 bit, and there was all this scuttle about about him, you know, 1007 01:17:09,239 --> 01:17:13,079 kind of being you know, injured. I remember, I can remember. 1008 01:17:14,159 --> 01:17:15,840 So I thought that the show was going to get postponed or you know, 1009 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:20,119 and I was prepared for that. Didn't happen. The show went on and 1010 01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:24,319 he didn't come out with a boot or anything like that. He looked like 1011 01:17:24,399 --> 01:17:29,239 he was fine, and I'm sort of focused in on. I had pretty 1012 01:17:29,399 --> 01:17:33,399 close seats too. I was pretty pretty well positioned to check him out, 1013 01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:40,159 and he was really doing his rock star thing and really playing because he had 1014 01:17:40,239 --> 01:17:45,760 opportunities to play without Joe Perry or Tommy Hendrickson, you know, overshadowing me 1015 01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:51,239 anyway. You know this. Keith Riches always talks about the anction out of 1016 01:17:51,279 --> 01:17:58,920 weaving with Ron Wood, and I thought that Johnny Depp did some decent weaving 1017 01:17:59,279 --> 01:18:01,840 with Joe Perry. I thought, you know, that's that's pretty good. 1018 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,479 I was really paying attention, kind of like trading guitar. Yeah, trading 1019 01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:13,359 guitar. So did you bring them flowers? Did you bring them flowers to 1020 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,920 Okay? He gave them a note and said, you have six months to 1021 01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:26,640 marry me. Now I'm going to do something impossible, and I'm going to 1022 01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:30,960 compare Joni Mitchell to Amber Heard. Okay, you ready for this, folks 1023 01:18:31,119 --> 01:18:39,319 shot? All right? What Taylor Taylor Swift on the same vein exactly. 1024 01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,239 So, Joni Mitchell, like I said earlier, had this thing where she 1025 01:18:42,359 --> 01:18:46,279 had every kind of rock stuff from Laurel Canyon and apparently she had a thing 1026 01:18:46,359 --> 01:18:49,479 with them, and they would write a song about her how nice she was, 1027 01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:54,760 and then she just dumped them. Who knows why? Okay, Amber 1028 01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:59,680 heard with Johnny Depp, Okay, she has a whole kind of odd social 1029 01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,760 life, but he put up with that, and then she goes through that 1030 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,840 whole thing with him. And then who does she tag onto but Elon Musk. 1031 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:11,000 I've told this story before. Okay. Now she hooks up with him, 1032 01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,359 and he's a nut anyway, but he goes in and out of like 1033 01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:18,439 different kind of you know. They would go together for two or three months 1034 01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:21,319 and then they'd break up, and it was very kind of dramatic. So 1035 01:19:21,399 --> 01:19:27,680 the anyway, he finally said to her, it sounds like Frank Navagadena frankly, 1036 01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,600 but she said, okay, I'll meet you in like San Diego, 1037 01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:34,359 Chili, Okay, and we're going to get back together. Now that's at 1038 01:19:34,399 --> 01:19:40,079 the bottom of the world where there's a lot of penguins, almost, And 1039 01:19:41,119 --> 01:19:46,800 she stood him up. She stood him up, all right, So you're 1040 01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:51,000 standing up the richest guy in the world or you know, the most famous 1041 01:19:51,119 --> 01:19:55,239 rich guy or something like that. And so what is it about her? 1042 01:19:55,800 --> 01:20:00,239 I should ask the women in the audience, because she not. They're they're 1043 01:20:00,319 --> 01:20:05,520 better looking women in the world and obviously better looking, a better roblem. 1044 01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:11,119 Housemaids. Listen, Sarah, do you want to say anything? Do you 1045 01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,600 you know, I don't know much about that story other than the you know, 1046 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:19,640 the broad strokes of things. But I don't know. I mean, 1047 01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:24,159 sometimes it just comes down to, you know, personalities, and I don't 1048 01:20:24,199 --> 01:20:27,840 know. They're very unique individuals, let's put it that way. You know, 1049 01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:34,119 I don't know she she's definitely different. Well, yeah, that's on 1050 01:20:34,199 --> 01:20:38,279 the other side of the world. And that's not standing somebody up, that's 1051 01:20:38,319 --> 01:20:49,520 standing somebody down. The other relationship went around the dream the wrong way because 1052 01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:53,560 the famous story is like the same thing with Ava Gardner and you look at 1053 01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:58,560 Ava Gardner and yeah, there were more I'm looking at well, they're more 1054 01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,359 attractive women. They were more kind of you know anyway. But I don't 1055 01:21:01,359 --> 01:21:05,000 even know what she looks like. But she had this thing over Frankie, 1056 01:21:05,199 --> 01:21:09,359 right, and she'd break up with him, and he did the first concept 1057 01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:13,079 dabble in the wee hours of the morning. There are all these songs about 1058 01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:15,520 breaking up with her, and you know, he was like the Beatles, 1059 01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:18,600 he could probably get any girly one, but he was in love with her. 1060 01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,640 So finally she said to okay, listen, meet me in Paris. 1061 01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:26,119 We'll have dinner in Paris, and we're going to get back together. And 1062 01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:29,720 he did everything he like, maybe bought a new house or what an almost 1063 01:21:30,359 --> 01:21:33,159 and then she she shows up and they're there and they have drinks and they 1064 01:21:33,239 --> 01:21:35,760 put a dinner. She goes to the ladies room, she never comes back, 1065 01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:42,319 never comes back, breaks Frankie's hot and he rubbed out two or three 1066 01:21:42,399 --> 01:21:47,880 guys on the way home. I men whacked. Wow, Okay, I 1067 01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:51,920 didn't mean that either. I meant two in the hat. Yes, anyway, 1068 01:21:53,760 --> 01:22:00,720 So maybe go ahead, maybe maybe she stood up. I don't even 1069 01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:04,600 know who you were talking about, that famous singer. Well, yeah, 1070 01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:11,680 I know that either way, both women may have stood up these seemingly you 1071 01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:16,439 know, catches for a reason. Maybe they were jerks, Okay, and 1072 01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:20,960 send sending them down to Santiago chilly is a way of rubbing him in. 1073 01:22:23,119 --> 01:22:25,359 I mean, how else do you get back at somebody who there is really 1074 01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:29,560 rich? I don't know. You really can't speculate. One thing I know 1075 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:35,319 is you just never know what goes on in other people's relationships. So all 1076 01:22:35,399 --> 01:22:43,800 right, never know everyone that you've been yes, okay, move along anyway. 1077 01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,800 I just googled a gardener because I don't know who she is, and 1078 01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:54,960 she is gorgeous. I mean, it was obviously she was discovered, wasn't 1079 01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:59,279 sure father something Everyone put her out in the front and somebody walked by and 1080 01:22:59,359 --> 01:23:03,359 saw a picture and in the shop or something like that. Okay, yeah, 1081 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:08,560 yeah, but I don't know she's like you, like Giselle Bunching too, 1082 01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:13,039 don't you grizzle? As I call her Tom Brady's wife. I have 1083 01:23:13,239 --> 01:23:15,600 no opinion of that person at all, you know what I mean? Okay, 1084 01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:19,239 she's supposed to be like her, but now I've changed my opinion entirely. 1085 01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:23,279 She's the most beautiful woman in the world in quotes. Well, they 1086 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,720 people who said that, you know somebody who's trying to push tom Brady, 1087 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,920 she made him well maybe he loved her well well at the time. So 1088 01:23:32,279 --> 01:23:35,439 they live in adjacent mansions. Do you know that that they live next to 1089 01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:48,319 each other in different tom Brady, We're going to WHU. So I'm just 1090 01:23:48,359 --> 01:23:50,880 going to tell another story real quick, and I just want it and and 1091 01:23:51,239 --> 01:23:57,279 this is this is going to sound a little high, but just recently I 1092 01:23:57,359 --> 01:24:00,680 get into the music, though Lost is going to hate this of Miles Davis, 1093 01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:02,840 Okay, And to me, Miles Davis is way out in the strategy 1094 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:08,199 of someway because I just don't kind of get jazz up. But I've been 1095 01:24:08,239 --> 01:24:14,079 listening to him recently and just trying to kind of getting it at the beginning 1096 01:24:14,239 --> 01:24:16,680 at the little baby steps. Anyway, So I've read stories about him, 1097 01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:21,199 and now everyone knows him as this guy jazz musician out there but had trouble 1098 01:24:21,279 --> 01:24:26,119 with people. I mean, isn't that his reputation, all right? He 1099 01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,760 was a tortured artist, Yeah right, yeah, But we've told the story 1100 01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,600 before his first opening naked at Burnley and he's out on the sidewalk having to 1101 01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:36,039 smoke and some cop comes along. Some drunk cop comes along and hits him 1102 01:24:36,079 --> 01:24:39,880 on the back of the head with a black jack and fractures his skull. 1103 01:24:40,399 --> 01:24:43,479 And they wouldn't bring him to the hospital right away. This is an opening 1104 01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,560 night, okay, so no wonder this guy kind of had a chip on 1105 01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:51,520 his shoulder, let's say, right. But he was known for just telling 1106 01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:55,840 people. In this book, I'm reading his biographone, you know about people 1107 01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,159 come up to a bar and he would just say, you don't get out 1108 01:24:58,159 --> 01:25:00,800 of my face, mother, you know. And I mean this was Miles 1109 01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:05,439 Davis unless you knew him, and the number of stories about he would play 1110 01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:09,399 in his back was always to the audience, and he was just mean to 1111 01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,640 everyone. And I would just like to know if at some point he said 1112 01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,239 that to it and they said, you know what Miles was you you know 1113 01:25:15,319 --> 01:25:20,520 what I mean, and knock them out. I was always just a front, 1114 01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:24,399 you know what I mean, because he wasn't a big guy. He's 1115 01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:26,680 not going to beat the hell out Maybe his body guyes, well, do 1116 01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,000 you know what I mean? Man, I'm looking at you for some reason 1117 01:25:29,079 --> 01:25:31,000 like you would know this. Why would you? Why would you put up 1118 01:25:31,119 --> 01:25:35,760 that kind of defense when people adore you. I mean, he's like a 1119 01:25:38,159 --> 01:25:45,239 god in the world of jazz. Hmmm, Sony, I don't know, 1120 01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:53,439 but go ahead, I got Are you ready? I want you to make 1121 01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:58,199 sure you're sitting down. I am now, I am heroin. Oh yeah, 1122 01:25:58,359 --> 01:26:01,800 okay, Well that's too makes you went from yeah yeah. And I 1123 01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:06,439 think it also accounts for a large percentage of the fifty percent people yes in 1124 01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:11,920 rock that aren't great people. I'm sure some naturally are not, but a 1125 01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:16,119 lot of them we're terrible, if I may. You guys know Jimmy Webb, 1126 01:26:16,159 --> 01:26:18,000 who is the co writer of Up, Up, and Away. We 1127 01:26:18,119 --> 01:26:21,000 met him, yet we met him one was playing out the Buffalo in Adam's 1128 01:26:21,079 --> 01:26:26,640 Mass. Yeah. Yeah, terrible voice put the great song one. So 1129 01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,199 here's the thing with him. Right, Like in the early nineties, my 1130 01:26:29,279 --> 01:26:32,640 father got laid off from his job and he needed He started fixing television sets, 1131 01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:36,000 and they would send them to people's houses back in those days to like 1132 01:26:36,079 --> 01:26:38,960 take a look at them. And I went with them one day, I 1133 01:26:39,039 --> 01:26:43,119 was like nineteen, and we went in this house and this guy with long, 1134 01:26:43,199 --> 01:26:46,199 greasy hair and bad skin answers the door and he lets us in and 1135 01:26:46,239 --> 01:26:50,000 there's this beautiful woman there with about seven or eight kids that it seems like 1136 01:26:50,079 --> 01:26:55,199 she's like homeschooling. She's got long underarm hair. And we're like, we're 1137 01:26:55,239 --> 01:26:58,880 in you know, we're in a hippie territory. Interesting in the year nineteen 1138 01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,920 ninety two. This is interesting. Wow. So he brings us over into 1139 01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:05,840 this corner of this house and he started. My father starts looking at the 1140 01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:10,119 TV and there's all these pictures on the wall, in these frames, and 1141 01:27:10,319 --> 01:27:13,840 like an idiot, like such a yokel, local yokel, I go, 1142 01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,920 you know, Michael Douglas, because I really liked Michael Douglas a lot. 1143 01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,119 And then the picture of them holding like a Marlin shirtless out in the middle 1144 01:27:21,119 --> 01:27:26,000 of the Atlantic, Oh my goodness. And he got really shitty with me, 1145 01:27:26,079 --> 01:27:29,239 and he said, Michael is a friend, and it's all right, 1146 01:27:29,279 --> 01:27:32,000 all right. So I kept my mouth shut and kept looking at more pictures. 1147 01:27:32,039 --> 01:27:35,880 My father takes the TV set, et cetera. I never thought another 1148 01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:39,680 thing about it. I did know, though, that his name was Jimmy 1149 01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:45,199 Webb because it was on the ticket. And then about eight to ten years 1150 01:27:45,279 --> 01:27:50,560 later, they're honoring Simon and Garfunkle on a network show and then they start 1151 01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:54,399 talking about him, and then he comes up and talks about them, and 1152 01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:58,159 I'm like, Dad, that's the guy. That's the guy right there, 1153 01:27:58,239 --> 01:28:01,239 that's the guy who like snipped at me Michael Douglass with TV. Yeah. 1154 01:28:01,239 --> 01:28:05,119 Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's he. We saw 1155 01:28:05,239 --> 01:28:10,840 him play at a place called the Buffalo in or someplace in not the Adams 1156 01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:14,720 mass and it's a nice little venue. But he can't sing. But he 1157 01:28:15,159 --> 01:28:17,439 wrote, like up up, He wrote so many songs in that period of 1158 01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,479 like late nineteen sixty eight, up, up and way. But did he 1159 01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:25,800 write He wrote MacArthur Park got the Park right. He tells a story about 1160 01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:29,439 that, Richard Harris and uh yeah. And he did a lot of Glenn 1161 01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:36,760 Campbell's stuff. He did some Glenn Campbell songs and uh yeah, I think 1162 01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:42,319 just to bring it all the way back. So he wrote a biography and 1163 01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:45,920 in the biography he talks about getting clean, and he talks about the years 1164 01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:49,520 in which he was an unmanageable human being and in a great asshole. And 1165 01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:53,239 they happened to fall right in the years in which I met him. Yeah, 1166 01:28:53,279 --> 01:28:59,279 funny, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Even he 1167 01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,720 is yeah yeah, and he was okay. He told a lot of stories 1168 01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:05,199 and he would sing come of a song, but he cannot sing. He 1169 01:29:05,279 --> 01:29:10,439 can't sing. And then we we saw him later on downstairs because we get 1170 01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,760 backstage passes. We talked to him a little bit, but he looked a 1171 01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:15,520 little he was Southern. Remember, he had kind of an accent, and 1172 01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:20,600 he was He wasn't the most warm and fuzzy guy, but he wrote a 1173 01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,560 lot of good songs. I mean, you know, here's the guy who 1174 01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:27,199 can sit down at any moment rather like a hit freaking song. And you 1175 01:29:27,279 --> 01:29:30,279 got to admire room for that. I agree. I'll tell you. The 1176 01:29:31,039 --> 01:29:39,119 shortest meeting I ever had was with Jay Giles. Jay Giles. Okay, 1177 01:29:39,279 --> 01:29:43,840 so now I'm so madam. I'm working for a voice print at this point, 1178 01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:51,119 and somehow they get hooked up with Jay Giles old stuff. So and 1179 01:29:51,199 --> 01:29:55,039 he has this manager, and a lot of his old stuff is jazz. 1180 01:29:55,159 --> 01:29:58,119 Jake was actually kind of like a jazz player. He wasn't really a rock 1181 01:29:58,199 --> 01:30:00,399 guy. Uh So. Anyway, so he says he's going to be playing 1182 01:30:00,399 --> 01:30:04,359 at this place in the Buffalo in and Adams go out and see him. 1183 01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:08,239 Now, this is it. This is a re question from a Japanese jazz 1184 01:30:08,319 --> 01:30:15,600 magazine. Do an eight page interview in toward Japean and they'll be your sponsor. 1185 01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:19,560 Okay, now this is okay, right, So they set up the 1186 01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:21,960 meeting. We go into this room. He comes in. He's like, 1187 01:30:23,119 --> 01:30:26,159 he's like, he's like Lennon Bernstein. He's not done. Waym a jamma 1188 01:30:26,239 --> 01:30:31,560 guy. He's very stately and I tell him who I am, and he 1189 01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:35,920 says, I don't tour anymore. And he says, I said, well, 1190 01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:39,159 how about this interview. He says, talk to my man and drink 1191 01:30:39,199 --> 01:30:43,079 it up and walked out. It was like probably ten seconds. Yeah yeah, 1192 01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:49,880 so anyway, Jay Giles, Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. So uh 1193 01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:55,479 anyway, who should we go to? Let's go to one one one. 1194 01:30:55,560 --> 01:31:00,600 You must have another? Do you have another ian of hats? I'd like 1195 01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,159 a Nancy story. You know, I talked so much about Heart that it's 1196 01:31:03,359 --> 01:31:06,520 it's crazy. But let me talk about somebody, somebody else. I meant, 1197 01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:11,640 I didn't meet a lot of people face to face, A lot of 1198 01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:15,000 the rock stars face to face, you know, brush with fame and I'm 1199 01:31:15,039 --> 01:31:20,359 not worthy moments or something like that. But I did a concert at again 1200 01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:25,159 at the not the Worcester Centrum, but they think it was the Worcester Auditorium. 1201 01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:30,239 And I did the black Crows, Black crows coming back, yep, 1202 01:31:30,279 --> 01:31:35,199 black crows. Uh. The highest, the higher than the higher than the 1203 01:31:35,239 --> 01:31:39,079 moon tour, the higher than the moon tour. That's it, all right. 1204 01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,840 I have a short local crew. They know what you know, what 1205 01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:47,159 you're in for. Yep. Yeah, so kind of kind of it was 1206 01:31:47,239 --> 01:31:50,319 kind of an intimate show. They had a they had a instead of a 1207 01:31:50,359 --> 01:31:54,039 scrim they had like this big top but not a top. It was like 1208 01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:59,000 it looked like a fisherman's net with the lights strung through it and the big 1209 01:31:59,119 --> 01:32:03,279 marijuana leaf in the middle, and the whole place spelled like weed big time. 1210 01:32:04,039 --> 01:32:06,680 And back then it wasn't legally, you know, we're supposed to really 1211 01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:11,159 walk around with it and be smoking in public. But that place was that 1212 01:32:11,319 --> 01:32:15,199 was that thing was smoking right from the beginning, right from right from the 1213 01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:19,840 staging, the setup. I'm looking around, I'm going, who's smoking? 1214 01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:23,760 You know, you're supposed to be smoking in the place, you know. 1215 01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:27,800 And so I was errand boy by that day too. And after everything is 1216 01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:31,000 said and down and put together, I had to delivered some kind of envelope 1217 01:32:31,039 --> 01:32:33,239 of something. I don't know if it was a contract to what I get. 1218 01:32:33,319 --> 01:32:38,800 I get to deliver it to the band's dressing room area. Yes, 1219 01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:45,600 So they do my thing and and I'm looking around and I'm and there's uh, 1220 01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,479 Chris Robins, what's the space and leader of Black Cross, Chris Robins, 1221 01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:55,800 Chris Robs, Chris Robinson. N yeah, really yeah, and you 1222 01:32:55,880 --> 01:33:00,399 gave him the envelope. So I delivered the thing to Chris and he's there 1223 01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:04,560 with the tennis ball and he throws me the tennis ball. Oh cool, 1224 01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:09,600 okay, and it went okay, did you catch it and threw it back 1225 01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:13,840 to him yep, and he bounced passed it back to me. Really, 1226 01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:16,399 I found a seat. I said, okay, I'll just go with this 1227 01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:20,439 because I've done my thing. I've given I've given him the thing, and 1228 01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,680 I'm ready to leave, but I'm not going to leave. I'm going to 1229 01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:27,680 play tennis ball. So I'm playing tennis ball with the guy and just talking 1230 01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,960 and yeah, you guys are great, you know, you know it's cool 1231 01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:34,960 to have. But this was see that was ninety two, right, rob 1232 01:33:35,359 --> 01:33:41,199 the higher than yeah, yeah, higher than the moon. So that was 1233 01:33:41,239 --> 01:33:43,920 their best album and best tour and it was ninety two. And was he 1234 01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:47,319 going out with Kate Hudson then or not? I came later, Yeah, 1235 01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:51,039 yeah, they had, they had split up because I thought it was in 1236 01:33:51,159 --> 01:33:57,560 you know, the second level of Kate Hudson. But I wasn't really you 1237 01:33:57,640 --> 01:34:03,279 know, oh wow. At first I was thinking, I'm this tennis ball 1238 01:34:04,319 --> 01:34:10,760 has Chris Robinson's hands on it, which touching Kate? Well, yes, 1239 01:34:13,359 --> 01:34:20,600 tennis balls. True, So that was kind of my almost brush almost preferred 1240 01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:28,520 it as that may have sounded yes, didn't like, Hey, I'm local 1241 01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:31,039 crew, what do you want from me? I do what has to be 1242 01:34:31,159 --> 01:34:35,319 done and then you know, if I have any tidbits after that, that's 1243 01:34:35,359 --> 01:34:40,720 great. Cheap trick though, cheap trick. There. There are a bunch 1244 01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:45,800 of guys in the food you know, the all you can eat buff aything. 1245 01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,239 It's it's it's dinner time. I can see them doing that. Yeah, 1246 01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:53,319 they do. And I was in the they invited to sin. I 1247 01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:56,439 mean, some of the guys I was working with, they could care less 1248 01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:58,920 about hanging out with the band. I was like, yeah, yeah, 1249 01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:03,319 yeah, yeah, whatever, I'll do it. Yeah. So I go 1250 01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:09,159 in and I'm there's like a food line, but there's a big steam table 1251 01:35:10,399 --> 01:35:13,359 and the bands on one side. I was on the other side with some 1252 01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:19,920 other band members, and I was being cool and just have being proper, 1253 01:35:20,079 --> 01:35:26,079 not being I'm not worthy kind of Oh my god. But that's how I 1254 01:35:26,199 --> 01:35:30,279 felt inside. Is I always liked you trick. Yeah, they're good. 1255 01:35:30,159 --> 01:35:34,479 There I am, there you are? Yeah, yeah, it was okay. 1256 01:35:35,199 --> 01:35:39,439 Yeah. When I started ringing away, I was in heaven, you 1257 01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:45,640 know. I was in heaven man being a local crew and doing that hard 1258 01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:50,920 work. I did hard work like that for Counting Crows. I'll never forget 1259 01:35:51,000 --> 01:36:00,239 that. Paula Cole was the opening act. Rock Rock Ports owned and the 1260 01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:04,319 the house sound guys who putting their risees together, and I was helping to 1261 01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:08,840 help them them do that, and they were talking about, yeah, they 1262 01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:11,920 just got off the tour with Rolling Stones. Always said you you work with 1263 01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:14,800 the Rolling Stones? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. And 1264 01:36:15,039 --> 01:36:17,520 I didn't know until he got into the story that that they toured with the 1265 01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:24,359 Rolling Stones. Yeah, I could know. I brought my daughter in to 1266 01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:28,439 the show. The crew calls the six Am. Woke her up at about 1267 01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:30,039 three thirty in the morning, and the two and a half hour drive to 1268 01:36:30,079 --> 01:36:35,239 get to Bolster and her my daughter's job. She brought a sketch book and 1269 01:36:35,319 --> 01:36:39,399 she was going to draw me working. She was just gonna sit in the 1270 01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:43,760 sit in the one of the audience chairs and draw me doing this, doing 1271 01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:48,760 that. And she was doing that. So the house sound guy goes to 1272 01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:51,680 me and says, uh, is such your daughter. I said, yea, 1273 01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:55,560 it's Alison. She's she's kind of an artist. And she wanted to 1274 01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:58,520 know. Was like, take take the dad, to take take your daughter 1275 01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:02,520 to work work so cool. He said, well, do you think she'd 1276 01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:09,159 like to watch the show from the sound riser over here? We got extra 1277 01:37:09,359 --> 01:37:13,720 couple extra chairs and she gets I said, gee, that thanks for the 1278 01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:17,079 invitation. I will ask her if she wants to do that. Is it 1279 01:37:17,159 --> 01:37:20,920 Alison? I was like to sit in the the prime seat in the auditorium 1280 01:37:23,359 --> 01:37:26,560 with the sound guys. I mean, you really have a good view there. 1281 01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:31,279 You kind of elevated a little bit. He turned it down because there 1282 01:37:31,359 --> 01:37:34,560 was going to be some marsh pit activity. I said, marsh pit with 1283 01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:40,319 counting crows. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm thinking, you know, 1284 01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:44,880 I didn't thinks the guard man I didn't think crows at that time. 1285 01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:54,399 It was kind of marsh pit material. We never were right. It wasn't 1286 01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:58,680 like you know, that's kind of yeah yeah, yeah, different kind of 1287 01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:04,239 sound. But there are no tattoos and counting I really don't remember that show. 1288 01:38:04,399 --> 01:38:06,399 That's the name of the book. A little bit of a marsh pit 1289 01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:11,760 going on. Huh, nothing really heavy duty, but there was something going 1290 01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:15,560 on, and Allison loved it, and uh you know, she turned she 1291 01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:21,079 turned it down with hanging out with a former Stones worker Stone's roadies at the 1292 01:38:21,159 --> 01:38:24,760 soundboard. It was something I would have liked to have done. Yeah, 1293 01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:30,520 yeah, I said, yeah, I said. My daughter Allison is saying 1294 01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:33,319 thanks, but no thanks. But tell you what, just sit down there, 1295 01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:38,159 do it. I'm chilling. Let me. I want to ask I'm 1296 01:38:38,159 --> 01:38:40,960 mad a question, okay, and I have to ask Robert question too. 1297 01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:44,119 We're coming almost down to the end of it is a true lost is it 1298 01:38:44,359 --> 01:38:47,199 true? I think you have twenty more minutes? Okay, So man, 1299 01:38:47,239 --> 01:38:50,960 this is a real show business question. So now you had Counting Crows and 1300 01:38:51,039 --> 01:38:55,560 you have black Crows. Was the River kind of a you know, a 1301 01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:59,880 place where you were being confused one band being confused with the other they were 1302 01:39:00,079 --> 01:39:05,720 having the same time kind of right, yeah, but honestly nowadays that so 1303 01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:10,319 long ago was the nineties, although I guess both bands are still out there 1304 01:39:10,359 --> 01:39:13,800 touring. I know Counting Cruise is there's also Sheryl Crow, So there was 1305 01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:17,960 this cruise. There's a Crow. Yeah. And but if I tell somebody 1306 01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,159 I was in Cotton Crows, they'll come back and say, oh, you 1307 01:39:20,239 --> 01:39:28,079 were in the Black Cruise. No, no, count Yeah, blurring happening, 1308 01:39:28,279 --> 01:39:30,760 you know. But we weren't alike in any way. The Black Crows 1309 01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:38,119 were very hard hitting and Counting Cruise was very bookish, you know, Americana 1310 01:39:38,239 --> 01:39:42,319 folky rock rock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did I tell you my 1311 01:39:42,399 --> 01:39:45,680 led Zeppelin story? Oh? Please tell us when when I'm at John Paul 1312 01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:50,520 Jones. Oh no, no, no, hear this. This is it's 1313 01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:55,319 like a Ringo story, but in a different way. In both stories, 1314 01:39:55,399 --> 01:40:00,359 my ego goes up and smoke, you know. So wow, Okay, 1315 01:40:00,399 --> 01:40:02,399 So Counting Crows just finished recording our first album. It's the biggest record. 1316 01:40:02,399 --> 01:40:05,880 It's called August and Everything after. It has mister Jones. It sold seven 1317 01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:11,920 million copies. So we just finished recording that record. We weren't touring yet, 1318 01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:15,920 so all I knew was that recording a record was really hard. It's 1319 01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:18,039 like going under a microscope. We had a great producer named Tibo, and 1320 01:40:18,079 --> 01:40:24,000 Burnett jumped into the record with all of us and all of our parts and 1321 01:40:24,119 --> 01:40:27,159 all of our songwriting, and he was the best producer we ever had. 1322 01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:30,920 So we just finished the record. We're not touring for about three or four 1323 01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:35,000 months, not until well, the record wasn't even so we'll go back home 1324 01:40:35,079 --> 01:40:40,479 to our little houses. Went up to the back, back up in northern 1325 01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:46,920 California, Barria, and Tebo Burnette, our producer, is playing a concert 1326 01:40:47,159 --> 01:40:53,520 in a converted church in San Francisco. So this is about a month or 1327 01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:55,920 two after we were done, and we all knew te Bow and we love 1328 01:40:56,039 --> 01:40:59,760 him. He invited us to come see him play. So we went there 1329 01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:05,079 to this church and I wore a tied eye with the members of led Zeppelin 1330 01:41:05,359 --> 01:41:09,880 sort of making a Celtic cross on this tied eye all their heads. It 1331 01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:15,039 was my cool. And I show up at this church to see t Bone 1332 01:41:15,079 --> 01:41:20,039 and after the concert, t Bone introduces me backstage. It's this little converted 1333 01:41:20,119 --> 01:41:23,960 church in San Francisco. There was probably one hundred and fifty people at the 1334 01:41:24,039 --> 01:41:28,560 show, and there was probably ten or fifteen people backstage, and he introduces 1335 01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:31,199 me to this guy named John Paul Jones. I had never met a celebrity, 1336 01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:34,520 you know, or let alone a rock star or celebrity anybody important to 1337 01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:39,880 me. So I thought of a member of led Zeppelin being in San Francisco 1338 01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:44,720 in this little church with me was impossible. My brain, you know how 1339 01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:48,319 the brain can't handle it, and it will see what it wants to see. 1340 01:41:48,399 --> 01:41:53,880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, funny, yes, yes, I you 1341 01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,520 know, I would not have believed it. So anyway, I'm shaking this 1342 01:41:56,640 --> 01:41:59,960 guy's hand and thinking what kind of jerk would name himself after led Zeppelin's base 1343 01:42:00,199 --> 01:42:05,720 player. He meanwhile, I was probably looking at his own face on my 1344 01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:11,960 shirt, and so anyway, I didn't I didn't put it together. And 1345 01:42:12,079 --> 01:42:15,199 as we're leaving about ten minutes later, you know, he goes open to 1346 01:42:15,359 --> 01:42:18,800 soda or a beer. I really I looked at his nostrils and saw the 1347 01:42:19,279 --> 01:42:26,840 same nostrils from the song Remains the Same movie, and that's John Paul Jones. 1348 01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:30,880 And then we left, we had to leave and say higher, and 1349 01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:35,720 I was traumatized from you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1350 01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:40,479 it was in the area of producing a butthole surfers record. That's why he 1351 01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:44,079 was really a little surfers. I have one of their records. Really, 1352 01:42:44,159 --> 01:42:50,199 yeah, you're the ones. Yes, and Zeppelin is not a lot of 1353 01:42:50,279 --> 01:42:54,439 zeppein fans would argue, but they're not a heavy metal band. They're more 1354 01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:58,600 of an electrified folk and world band. H yeah, yeah, interesting, 1355 01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:02,800 yes, true. Yeah, they were putting that heavy metal category for some 1356 01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:06,840 reason. I think it had something more to do with the rock writers than 1357 01:43:08,279 --> 01:43:12,039 anything else. But but you know, they had like they were definitely not 1358 01:43:12,119 --> 01:43:15,279 heavy metal. Premium rocket Towers too. You know, just Rob, go 1359 01:43:15,319 --> 01:43:19,319 ahead, you must want to say something. No, No, I mean 1360 01:43:19,399 --> 01:43:23,479 I think he's right. I think Bottom is the one that throws them into 1361 01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:28,600 like another sphere. It's almost impossible to hear that bombasticness and not say, 1362 01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:31,119 oh this this is heavy something. Matter of fact, one and I were 1363 01:43:31,119 --> 01:43:34,880 having a good conversation at some point about how they relate to the other Big 1364 01:43:35,039 --> 01:43:39,640 four, the Who and and then the Beatles and the Rolling Stones, and 1365 01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:44,760 the thing that you can't argue is that they are definitely sonically larger, bombastic, 1366 01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:47,720 and as a result, I think that's why those other three bands sometimes 1367 01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:50,279 look at them with a crooked eye and say like, well, we're not 1368 01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:55,840 that. We're more like Pure with the Blues, and they're something new, 1369 01:43:56,279 --> 01:44:00,920 right, I think how they found themselves there. Yeah yeah, but did 1370 01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:04,800 you know that there's a sorry, no, go ahead please. Well I 1371 01:44:05,079 --> 01:44:09,840 wanted to say that I listened to Stairway to Heaven about probably ten years ago, 1372 01:44:10,039 --> 01:44:12,760 because it's you know, how you know music so well you just don't 1373 01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:15,279 even listen to listen to it any more. I haven't listened to a Beatles 1374 01:44:15,319 --> 01:44:17,880 record in twenty years, and I know everything you know, and so I 1375 01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:23,720 put it on with like new headphones with little air pods or something and really 1376 01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:27,720 listen to it. And there's no fuzz guitar and Stairway to Heaven. This 1377 01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:32,119 is an amazing fact. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. 1378 01:44:32,359 --> 01:44:39,039 It increases effects. I think some bands you got two carried away with 1379 01:44:39,119 --> 01:44:42,680 effects, you would think it would be yep. I think Keith Richards always 1380 01:44:43,079 --> 01:44:47,239 likes to say that he never uses any effects, that he's ever used him 1381 01:44:48,079 --> 01:44:51,760 effects go out date, yeah, right, yeah, exactly right, yep, 1382 01:44:53,399 --> 01:44:57,399 yeah, and the thing would stay with heaven and I can't remember last 1383 01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:00,319 time I heard it either, But I saw Knit to You with Jimmy Page, 1384 01:45:00,359 --> 01:45:02,079 and he said, if you listen to it, really listened to it, 1385 01:45:02,159 --> 01:45:09,000 it increases in speed very gradually, very very gradually. Okay, until 1386 01:45:09,119 --> 01:45:12,720 at the end it's the same song, but they're just like rocking out and 1387 01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:14,800 it's nuts. And he said, yeah, I did that. Yeah, 1388 01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:16,880 he did it on purpose, you know, just just increase the speed and 1389 01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:20,159 also increase the instruments, how to bring the instruments in and stuff like that. 1390 01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:26,399 Just really creative. I'm sure they're sick of playing it. And anytime 1391 01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:29,960 you go into a guitar world or someplace and you pick up a guiti and 1392 01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:30,840 you stop playing it, they say, no, no, no, no, 1393 01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:39,239 you can't take cashmir instead. Right, yeah, But that's why I 1394 01:45:39,399 --> 01:45:45,439 like about Heart. Heart is a good band that yeah, yeah, yeah, 1395 01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:47,239 And they do a good job with it. They don't they don't ruin 1396 01:45:47,319 --> 01:45:50,960 it, right, yeah, yeah, they enhance it. Actually, they 1397 01:45:51,039 --> 01:45:55,159 do a really good job with it. I saw them, I saw them 1398 01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:59,279 one one. The Vietnam War kind of gave us heart? Is that not 1399 01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:02,720 correct? I'm sorry what I say, the Vietnam War gave us heart? 1400 01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:09,319 How do you mean? Well, the two guys, the two guys from 1401 01:46:09,399 --> 01:46:14,840 Seattle that jumped ship and came into Canada were escaping the draft. You're right, 1402 01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:17,359 Yeah, they kind of hung out in Canada to and form that band, 1403 01:46:17,399 --> 01:46:23,319 and I Roger Fisher and Steve Fawson. Yeah, a very good one. 1404 01:46:25,039 --> 01:46:29,960 Very Colia loves that band. Yeah, much heart. It's like they're 1405 01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:32,119 adopted, Oh Western Canada. We grew up with him, Yeah, we 1406 01:46:32,159 --> 01:46:36,680 grew up with them. Hey, Matt, that's fifty four forty fifty four? 1407 01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:41,840 What is it before? Forty is a band out of Victoria? Okay. 1408 01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:45,479 I was just saying to Matt that a friend of mine that grew up 1409 01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:48,119 in the hood. I went to watch him and then there's my friend in 1410 01:46:48,159 --> 01:46:51,720 the hood playing with him, and I'm like, hey, there you are 1411 01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:56,920 kind of like wow. I was trying to tell Matt that I kept going 1412 01:46:56,960 --> 01:47:00,800 to you be forty. I'm like, no, I'm not you f fifty 1413 01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:06,279 yep. Yeah, yeah, I can't say I've heard of them still playing. 1414 01:47:06,319 --> 01:47:11,239 Good band, yeah, good good music. Probably some police call or 1415 01:47:11,319 --> 01:47:15,079 something like the Van Halen album was fifty one forty One't that just arrested? 1416 01:47:18,119 --> 01:47:20,960 It's the police code for a crazy person. In Los Angeles. There you 1417 01:47:21,079 --> 01:47:27,319 go, they think that, right. So we're gonna while we're coming down 1418 01:47:27,359 --> 01:47:29,920 to the antea, I'm going to really, really very quickly tell you this 1419 01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:32,800 story. And I cannot reveal the person's name, but I just wanted this 1420 01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:38,760 is just an incident of rock star being a rock star. So anyway, 1421 01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:42,279 I'm doing publicity for this rock star, well known, well known, certainly 1422 01:47:42,319 --> 01:47:44,520 well known to everyone here. And if you know who I'm talking about, 1423 01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:47,560 please don't stand it in the air because they always get really unlucky. Don't 1424 01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:50,399 saying on the air, say it on the air. Anytime I tell this 1425 01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:55,399 story to anyone, I get it like really unlucky about two weeks. Well, 1426 01:47:55,479 --> 01:48:00,199 because it's interesting, thank you lost. So anyway, look we have 1427 01:48:00,279 --> 01:48:05,399 ten minutes to kill, you know. Anyway, So this person was doing 1428 01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:11,359 a New Year's Eve show in Philly Big It's going to be big. And 1429 01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:17,640 the day before they were doing a show in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, a morning 1430 01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:21,319 show where they wanted to come on. They wanted them to come on, 1431 01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:28,319 play their song and then get interviewed. The show is eight in the morning. 1432 01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:30,600 They wanted this artist to come in and play the song at seven point 1433 01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:34,840 thirty. They were going to pre record. At then eight o'clock they do 1434 01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:39,399 the interview they put in the tape by binging about the door, right. 1435 01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:43,680 So first of all, they didn't want to get up early to do this, 1436 01:48:44,279 --> 01:48:46,600 so they had them change the whole schedule around you know, I'm going 1437 01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:55,479 to play. And then they were literally three blocks away from the TV station. 1438 01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:59,880 They're in a hotel in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, and they wanted a limo 1439 01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:03,000 and the station wasn't going to give him a limo. It's intensively, it's 1440 01:49:03,039 --> 01:49:06,319 in Bethlehem, you know, I'm surprised they have their own TV stations. 1441 01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:14,640 So they made a request through me to get in touch with their the head 1442 01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:17,680 of their fan club in Philly, to drive up to Bethlehem. I have 1443 01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:24,039 no idea how far away that is to drive them the three blocks, you 1444 01:49:24,119 --> 01:49:27,039 know from I said to him, why don't you take a cab. We 1445 01:49:27,159 --> 01:49:32,359 don't take cabs. And I'm trying to deal with this stuff, okay, 1446 01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:38,119 So anyway, yeah, it's a couple of hours. Anyway, I'm trying 1447 01:49:38,119 --> 01:49:42,840 to I'm thinking anyway, So and I'm in touch the fan club guy. 1448 01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:45,760 I said, don't do it. Don't do it. Just just let him 1449 01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:47,359 take a freaking cab, you know, don't do it. No, he 1450 01:49:47,439 --> 01:49:53,159 has to do it. A blizzard hits okay, and this guy drove like 1451 01:49:53,399 --> 01:50:00,319 six hours up to drive them three blocks, wait and drive, have him 1452 01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:03,760 the three blocks back and he goes back to Philly. Meanwhile, the sky 1453 01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:06,800 gets on a plane. He's in Philly before the poor guy even gets back 1454 01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:14,079 there in a car. And I said to him, it's over an hour 1455 01:50:14,239 --> 01:50:16,000 drive. It's over an hour drive. Yeah, but the storm. And 1456 01:50:16,079 --> 01:50:18,159 I said, don't do it, don't do it, man, don't do 1457 01:50:18,199 --> 01:50:20,119 it. But he did it. He did it because he was just so 1458 01:50:20,319 --> 01:50:25,079 devoted to this guy. And I said, that's irresponsible in a way, 1459 01:50:25,159 --> 01:50:28,880 you know what I mean. Come on, come on, really, you 1460 01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:32,239 don't want to take a freaking How about walk? Try walking would be interesting. 1461 01:50:35,119 --> 01:50:40,560 But anyway, they're not all nice guys. I've met some who were 1462 01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:42,439 great guys, you know, not that I've meant a lot of them, 1463 01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:45,119 but they're good guys, you know, they just happen to make it a 1464 01:50:45,239 --> 01:50:47,960 music loo. Look at Matt. He does not have any kind of a 1465 01:50:48,079 --> 01:50:55,279 rock shop or around him. Is he pretentious? He just I never belonged 1466 01:50:55,319 --> 01:50:58,159 in a rock band. I never felt comfortable. Yeah that's funny. Yeah, 1467 01:50:59,079 --> 01:51:01,039 but you mean that I've talked to you before. You really never felt 1468 01:51:01,079 --> 01:51:04,960 comfortable with that band. Would you have been would you have felt better in 1469 01:51:05,039 --> 01:51:10,600 a different band like stee Iye Span or something? Uh? Possibly, you 1470 01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:14,960 know, I mean I was Uh yeah. The rock business is a blunt 1471 01:51:15,319 --> 01:51:18,399 business and a blunt art form, and it can do its own toll on 1472 01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:23,600 you if you're a delicate type of person, you know, and definitely that 1473 01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:27,760 you know. Uh, it's just a it's just crawling. I mean, 1474 01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:30,720 I'm a spiritual type. I go to India, So the rock world is 1475 01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:39,359 just crawling with an atheistic sort of blunt sexual sexuality. Uh successful debauchery. 1476 01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:43,800 Yes, yes, yes, which is which is great you know for but 1477 01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:50,359 it's just down, up and down, you know. And I wasn't the 1478 01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:57,439 type, you know, I was never. Uh but Mick, you reminded 1479 01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:59,680 me of sometime I wanted to say, real quick, I know we're winding 1480 01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:04,359 down or Rick Wakeman's story. Did you know about this where Rick complained a 1481 01:52:04,399 --> 01:52:08,840 couple of times to his record label that he didn't have more of a brew 1482 01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:13,119 haw when he landed in a in a plane in his airport. I think 1483 01:52:13,159 --> 01:52:16,600 it was at Heathrow or maybe a private airport, a small airport with a 1484 01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:20,720 private flight. And so his record label, I think it was when he 1485 01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:27,479 was doing a solo record and his label rented a marching band one day to 1486 01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:30,600 go run walk down the runway and Rick got it. To his credit, 1487 01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:33,520 he laughed his head off and understood exactly what was happening. He saw the 1488 01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:38,279 marching game because Rick Wakeman's arriving at the airport. Yeah. Yeah, he 1489 01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:42,640 has a sense of humor. He's like a comedian ass No, no, 1490 01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:45,479 no, no, no, no no. I've bet him once I was 1491 01:52:45,560 --> 01:52:50,439 I was on backstage and I had a I had like a Chicago Cubs hat 1492 01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:55,039 on something. I can't imagine that right, But he said to me he 1493 01:52:55,239 --> 01:52:59,000 saw it, and he said, what did the Yankees do tonight? I 1494 01:52:59,119 --> 01:53:02,159 got the New York yang And he goes, yeah, he said, why 1495 01:53:02,239 --> 01:53:04,560 do you follow in the New York Yankees? He goes, I love the 1496 01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:13,600 uniforms. No, he's he's a good guy. I've set up some stuff 1497 01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:17,039 for him to be interviewed in London and stuff. And when I was working 1498 01:53:17,119 --> 01:53:19,840 for Rob when I was right for the boy sprint and he's all right, 1499 01:53:20,039 --> 01:53:25,399 he's okay, you know I mean that band yes is just talk about press 1500 01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:30,279 five different personalities their original members. Wow, you know what I mean? 1501 01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:33,279 How does Chris Squy get along with Bill Bruford? They're just like two opposite 1502 01:53:33,359 --> 01:53:38,119 people? And Anderson? How did John Nynsen get along with any of them? 1503 01:53:38,239 --> 01:53:42,239 Really? They really didn't, you know, but they but they were 1504 01:53:42,279 --> 01:53:45,399 successful, you know what I mean? The pots came together, you know. 1505 01:53:45,079 --> 01:53:48,920 Yeah, So I think that's where lois. What is your other timekeeper? 1506 01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:53,159 What is it is the train crashed into the station. I do believe 1507 01:53:53,199 --> 01:53:56,479 we need to call time. Wrap it up? Okay, wrap it up? 1508 01:53:56,880 --> 01:54:00,279 Okay? So does anyone have a real quick story to tell? Really 1509 01:54:00,399 --> 01:54:05,000 quick? Rob to have something in the in the chain. But you know 1510 01:54:05,079 --> 01:54:08,800 how, we're talking about a lot of nice rock stars today. People did 1511 01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:11,960 nice things. And along those lines, I could tell you very quickly that 1512 01:54:12,039 --> 01:54:15,000 I have a high school classmate that moved out to Los Angeles and he was 1513 01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:18,760 struggling with employment, took a job at radio shack. Pat Benatar and Neil 1514 01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:25,920 Gerardo came into the radio shack and they wanted some things like lots of things 1515 01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:28,960 to help wire their house up. And he knew all that stuff. He 1516 01:54:29,039 --> 01:54:30,279 was an audio file and he said, I'd be happy to help you, 1517 01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:33,119 you know, went to their house. They paid him handsomely. They became 1518 01:54:33,199 --> 01:54:36,239 friends, and they consistently used him for this and that. Nice and then 1519 01:54:36,319 --> 01:54:44,840 he was having trouble they let him move in. Thenfortunately the radio guy what 1520 01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:50,039 Unfortunately he got cancer after that they according to my other classmates, and I 1521 01:54:50,199 --> 01:54:53,760 like, I don't know this firsthand, but according to my other classmates, 1522 01:54:54,199 --> 01:54:58,520 he did pass away, and both her and Neil paid for the funeral. 1523 01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:02,960 Wow. Really nice people on one hand, obviously terrible news on the other 1524 01:55:03,039 --> 01:55:09,399 hand, another expression of being human. Yeah, goodwill and yeah goodwill, 1525 01:55:09,479 --> 01:55:12,760 yeah yeah yeah yeah. Meanwhile, I heard this story real quick about the 1526 01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:16,720 Kinks. Okay, So mak Pullman, the no belly button man, his 1527 01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:23,000 brother ran a pin a diner up in Hampton Beach. Okay, Hampton Beach 1528 01:55:23,079 --> 01:55:25,840 if you know it, Matt has been there, We've had lunch there, 1529 01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:31,079 Matt Okay, the riot capital of New Hampshire. So the guy, so, 1530 01:55:31,199 --> 01:55:34,319 he's running this diner down the street, and the guy who runs the 1531 01:55:34,359 --> 01:55:38,840 casino says, hey, listen, the Kinks would like to eat after the 1532 01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:42,760 show, could just stay open, okay, and usually he closed at nine, 1533 01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:45,119 but he stays open till midnight. Okay. Find the Kinks roll in 1534 01:55:46,039 --> 01:55:50,439 at the two brothers and the two other guys, and he prepares a whole 1535 01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:55,399 meal for them, takes that hour, they're there, the drinking, they're 1536 01:55:55,399 --> 01:55:59,680 having a great time. Gives them the bill and they stiff them on the 1537 01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:10,119 tip up him. Holy man, the freaking Kinks so on that I think 1538 01:56:10,159 --> 01:56:14,039 we should have ended it. Well, we could have ended onat Benita, 1539 01:56:14,159 --> 01:56:17,600 but listen, it's twenty twenty four. Anyway. Let me thank everybody. 1540 01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:20,439 Let me think that we're gonna clap everyone out. Let me thank the shades 1541 01:56:20,479 --> 01:56:27,079 up there in Edmonton, Canada. Thank you Kivin Sa. Thanks for having 1542 01:56:28,239 --> 01:56:31,439 Kivin Sarah. Okay, thank you for joining us. I'm gonna thank Matt 1543 01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:35,439 Nalley. Let's come on, let's go give it up on Matt. Thank 1544 01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:39,920 you, Matt. We appreciate it. We'll talk to you soon. You 1545 01:56:40,039 --> 01:56:43,840 go on YouTube and see him playing Shamrock. Sure is that the name of 1546 01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:47,039 that song? I'm starting a YouTube, So my second folks on is Patty's 1547 01:56:47,079 --> 01:56:51,479 Green Shamrock Shore. It's about Irish immigration to America on sailing ships. Really 1548 01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:55,920 nice, yeah, really really well done, very well done. Thanks for 1549 01:56:56,039 --> 01:56:59,319 joining us, Matt. We appreciate it. My pleasure always. Thank you 1550 01:56:59,439 --> 01:57:03,680 Rob for us. We appreciate it. Okay, thanks he only a fantastic 1551 01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:08,039 company. Can you cook? You look like Stanley Tushi? Can you cook 1552 01:57:12,359 --> 01:57:16,680 you? I hear my wife cooking downstairs. That's a good that's a good 1553 01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:23,560 thing to hear, as it turns out. Thanks Rober. Okay, we're 1554 01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:29,439 going to clap for Rob because Lois, because everybody. That's okay, what 1555 01:57:30,279 --> 01:57:34,279 everyone needs a trophy? You not in my book, but he deserves to 1556 01:57:34,359 --> 01:57:41,119 be applauded. Thank you, one one, one one, Thank you when 1557 01:57:41,159 --> 01:57:45,239 it comes out. Okay, pleasure is all mine. We're clapping for you. 1558 01:57:45,399 --> 01:57:48,079 Tube the man so nice. They named him twice. That's right, 1559 01:57:50,239 --> 01:57:54,439 very good. Also, Lois, thank you very much, Lois, thanks 1560 01:57:54,520 --> 01:57:57,399 for joining us. And you're also they get away caught the night so plate. 1561 01:57:57,680 --> 01:58:00,199 Yeah, that's right. Happy to be here. Thanks for yourself. 1562 01:58:00,279 --> 01:58:04,880 It's okay, one clap, one hand clapping, all right, So I 1563 01:58:05,079 --> 01:58:09,520 just want to thank everybody. Let me just quickly do the plugs Homestrud Troops 1564 01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:13,359 is a military organization that we talked about on the show all the time. 1565 01:58:13,880 --> 01:58:17,159 They built homes for people veterans who were hurt in combat after nine to eleven, 1566 01:58:17,199 --> 01:58:20,439 that'll be the Afghan war in the Iraqi Wall. These are people who 1567 01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:25,520 came home missing a limb or whatever, and Homestrud Troops building them homes that 1568 01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:29,239 are more adaptable to their needs, so not a lot of stays, low 1569 01:58:29,359 --> 01:58:31,199 count of space, stuff like that. And then when they build them the 1570 01:58:31,239 --> 01:58:34,279 home. These are nice homes. Los and I went down to see one 1571 01:58:34,279 --> 01:58:38,000 about a year ago. I mean, they're beautiful homes. They're like five 1572 01:58:38,079 --> 01:58:43,560 hundred thousand dollars one furnished. Incredible, incredible. They give them, they 1573 01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:45,760 give them the keys, they rip up the mortgage, they don't have to 1574 01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:47,399 pay the movies, they can read during society, and they don't have that 1575 01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:51,880 thing about the mortgage all over their head every month. Okay, very very 1576 01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:58,920 worthwhile. Cars They have built I think three hundred and eighty homes already, 1577 01:58:59,039 --> 01:59:01,920 which is unbelieved. The blow the problem is is the waiting list is over 1578 01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:09,640 one thousand so Homesred Troops ninety cents on your charity dollar go to our veterans, 1579 01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:14,560 so please cool them, see what they're about. Also, we end 1580 01:59:14,640 --> 01:59:18,199 of his show now these Days saying John McCain was not a loser. Okay, 1581 01:59:18,279 --> 01:59:21,079 here's a war hero. You don't make fun of people like that. 1582 01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:26,079 You look up to them. And so this is Mac for the rest the 1583 01:59:26,159 --> 01:59:30,600 whole gang. See please until you hear us again. What do I say? 1584 01:59:31,439 --> 01:59:36,319 Be safe, be safe, be happy, and bye bye bye bye