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day, Now Here's Nick Coffee. In the last week or so, it
has really really hit me that we got still three months before college football gets
here. I mean not fully three months, and when you get to mid
August it kind of feels like it's here. But man, I just saw
the holiday weekend slate of games and I can't wait. It's going to be
along, you know, three months roughly before we get there. But this
is what we're going to get in the holiday weekend. We've got Clemson against
Georgia at noon, followed by Miami at Florida three point thirty, Notre Dame
at Texas A and m at seven thirty, and then on Sunday USC versus
LASHU and that game is going to be played in Vegas. And again,
there's all kinds of big games, but I'm in fact everything, every matchup
that I just mentioned is going to be on ABC. So I mean,
you know, there'll be other really good games, but I would imagine those
are probably the big, the big matchup to kick off the season. So
the first game is actually actually never mind what I'm looking at here is from
the SEC's website, so they're not going to mention games on other networks.
But I know there's another game across the pond that's going to actually get us
kicked off. I can't think of who it is that plays, but yeah,
two months in three weeks, I guess roughly, yeah, and we'll
be there. And we talked about it last week. Maybe it was a
week before. I don't remember. I get my dates mixed up. But
with Louisville schedule, this is the first time since two thousand and eight,
I think it is since, that they're going to open up the season on
a Saturday against a non Power five team. Now that's a little misleading because
on the holiday weekend they've sometimes played on that Sunday, which actually I think
works out good because you're not competing with other I mean, there's rarely many
games at all on that day and you kind of have a chance to even
potentially have a standalone game. But I do have a little bit of fomo
here because I'm going to be super excited to see Louisville kick it off on
that Saturday, August thirty first against Austin p because you know, it's our
first chance to see Jeff Brahm in year two. And then the next week
they play Jacksonville State, which will be there. There's Week two opponent that'll
be a three thirty kick at LNN Federal Credit Union Stadium. But I do
like having a meaningful game in the first couple of weeks really the opener,
Yeah, just because I like, I don't know, I like, I
want to be thrown right into the fire, not like when you played Bama
to kick off the season in twenty eighteen, but I mean, like just
to kind of see where you stand. Right Like Louisville was in a dog
fight last year in the opener against Georgia Tech. Looked like they were going
to get blown out at halftime, and sure enough, they came out and
really dominated the second half themselves and won without much trouble. And I think
we all knew that Georgia Tech wasn't going to be an elite team, but
you were playing an ACC team, and at least it gave you some level
of where you were, right. I mean, it's hard to do that
in college football, right, Like, well, hey, we played this
team competitively and their rank, so that means you know, it's just you
know, there's it's impossible in college football specifically to really you know, go
off that like for example, it you know, actually Holvie was a good
example last year, right, they were you know, they were ten and
two team in the regular season, but their loss in acc play, the
only loss they had in conference play was to Pittsburgh, who had their worst
season in the Patnrduzierra. So you really never know. But yeah, I'm
sure when we get to August and we're impatiently waiting for that kickoff on the
thirty first, I'm not going to care who it's against. I'm going to
just be excited to see this team in action. And there is something to
be said, especially in the portal era, when you have so many newcomers
from other programs that have transferred in that you have games like this to where
you you should be able to you know, kind of get your teeth,
you know, cut your teeth a little bit, get acclimated, right,
I don't want to say shake off some rust, but get you know,
kind of find a groove a little bit. And the one downside of these
games is if you end up playing an Austin p or a Jacksonville State closer
than you know, you thought you would. It'll make you worry, and
maybe it is because you've got real problems, but it could just be,
you know, the human element of sports, and that is playing to the
level of your competition, regardless of how much you really mentally lock in and
say, look, we got to we got to play this opponent like we're
playing Kirby Smart and Georgia. It's impossible because again, the human element is
a powerful thing. But anyways, yeah, we uh, we got a
few months to go. And that makes me makes me said, hopefully these
summer months fly by. And I mean it when I said, I know
summer is most of everyone's favorite season. I feel like, well maybe some
people like the spring and fall, but like summer. You know, summer's
you know, schools out for the summer, people take their vacations in the
summer. You usually get good weather in the summer. But one of the
reasons I don't like summer as much as others is because when it comes to
the sports that I really care about that I'm you know that I at times
feel like they're my religion. They're not going on right, Like I can't
get into baseball in the NBA. I mean, it'll end here soon and
even now I can't really get into this postseason. So yeah, I can't
wait for football to get here. I'm trying to think about it too much.
Also, this probably don't affect you, but maybe a couple of people
like myself an other video game playing guys out there. The EA Sports College
Football Game is finally coming back, and that's in July. For the last
ten or so years, it's been one of the more popular games, at
least among people at my generation because they love the college football was different than
Madden, but EA Sports of course, and the nil the name, image
and likeness stuff that went on back you know during the mid teens. I
feel about different than to not have it. Well, it's finally made its
way back, and you said it comes out in July. It comes out
in July, and that's given everybody kind of like a half taste of college
but and they can finally they can finally play it. Virtually everyone likes going
on there and like taking a small school, a trashy school and like making
them powerhouses. Yeah, you feel like you're you know, you're the head.
You know, you walk around your everyday life. Yeah, actually thinking
you're a head coach. You wore the head coach and they're they're what.
I'm not punching the clock here in my day job. I got a program
to worry about. I got guys that are in the portal. I gotta
figure it out, like you can kind of get lost in it, which
I think it could be a lot of fun. I'm not a gamer,
but obviously it was about to ask. But but I but when I did
play video games as a kid or even as a teenager, I always played
sports games. Actually I played tomb Raider, which I loved, Deep Cut
Crash Bandicoot you remember that. Oh yes, those were the two games I
played that weren't sports. Other than that, I played NBA Live, not
two K, because I don't think two K existed whenever I was the game
live days. And then you know, NBA gam of course was great,
but that was when I had my second genesis. But yeah, Madden,
I never really got into a whole lot. But college football that was the
game. And I know why people are this excited that it's coming back.
I feel like when it's released, like Sports Twitter, it's all anybody's gonna
talk about right like it's gonna be everywhere. Yep. I was wondering if
you've been seeing any of that already. Oh yeah, already, like me
hyping me ready to sit my starting quarterback after throwing the first interception on the
first game or whatnot against Bamba. The Internet is a powerful thing, and
at times it's it reminds us just how toxic society is. I mean,
it's I always ask myself when it comes to the Internet, did you know,
did these people that really make a fool of themselves on the Internet and
expose it to the world. Did they exist before the Internet? And they
did, It's just they didn't have a platform to really show it. But
what I'm getting at is there's a lot of really really funny stuff, like
the collective sense of humor that certain people have within Twitter and TikTok and stuff
like that. Yeah, I find I find enjoyment and amusement from that.
And I've seen so many like clips from really hardcore football movies, like coaches
given the pep talk, or a coach really just getting on one of his
players and the captions are like, yeah, this is me talking to my
quarterback after we after we got upset and we two and it's in NCAA football,
right, So I h are you? I mean again, I'm gonna
really expose myself here as as somebody that not only doesn't play video games,
I don't know anything about them. What is like the system that people use
now? I mean it's his next PlayStation, Xbox PlayStation, Xbox are still
ruling. They're on like they're like their fifth gen or something like that.
There's a PS five and then there's the Xbox one X or one at Xbox
one. So those are the latest. Those are the latest, but I
think they're they're due to come up and have like the newest one to come
out probably like next year. And that's a that's a shame because the PlayStations
have just now widely started becoming available. Before last Christmas, they were still
hard for any nobody to get their hands on. I have a PS five.
I'm I'm a I'm a loyal sony guy. I've always had a PlayStation.
That's where I played Crash Banded Crew growing up, and I I love
that stuff so like but just like you, that's all I played was just
like sports games. Those games are perfect for my ADHD. You could get
on there and knock out a game and twenty thirty minutes maybe, but some
of the cooler like story games and like war game Call of Duty, I'm
not good at that. Halo, Halo, not good at shooting games.
First, I just never had any interest in that just wasn't my thing.
I was never really like a war freak, you know. I was never
really like down to go and do all that they have, like cool games,
God of War, like the New Spider Man that was that was pretty
cool, but they're like story driven games, and I just don't have the
patients. I just want to get on there, throw a couple of touchdowns
or have a thirty point game with my little virtual character and then then get
out of there. I'm not trying to solve a mystery. I had a
buddy who was really into a game called Assassin's Creed, Yes, and that
kind of that kind of looked cool, but like again I'm with you,
like I just don't. I'm not gonna I'm not going to give up a
lot of time to get into it learn about it, and it's just never
really been, never been my thing. But I had a sega that was
my first ever system that I got, which I was debating what I asked.
I got it for Christmas, and I asked for a Sega but I
was potentially gonna ask for a Super Nintendo went to Sega instead, and then
I got a PlayStation not long after that, and then my last system was
a PlayStation two, which of course is you know, now ancient, right,
they're making their way back now. Now they're expensive to buy it stores
at like little like those little card shops itself. They don't still like manufacturing.
We're talking used right, yeah, yeah, I use Yeah, they
don't still manufacture. So I just looked at a PlayStation two came out in
November of two thousand, so it's twenty four years old, which makes me
feel very very old. I remember getting my first PS two because my first,
my first ever one, was the original PlayStation. There's just I don't
even think I got any games, but I think I got like a wrestling
game, like a WWE WWF at the time. At one point PlayStation two
did they all come with the ability to hardline internet? Do you know?
I think the PS two is where it started, because yeah, I ever
used that feature, because that you know, there's no Wi Fi in my
home growing up, we had we had dialogue. Yeah so yeah, yeah,
you had to turn off, you had to make sure no one was
on the phone. But but I remember when I realized you could put you
could watch DVD's on your PlayStation two. And I remember as a kid thinking
to myself, twelve year old Nick, well, technology will never top this.
This is this is this is the biggest advancement in technology we've ever experienced,
and I'm sure nothing will top it. This is crazy. I can
watch a movie on my gaming system, and you know, now things have
clearly advanced much much further than that. Now they have handhelds. I have
a Nintendo Switch, and Nintendo Switch is really really fun. I could still
get down on some of the mark like Mario Kart. I love Mario Kart,
Party games, Party games are five. You just don't fire up Assassin's
Creed. When people about Nintendo Wii, is that still around the way right,
I don't think. I mean they did. They have a long shelf
life it, Like I remember, it was a big thing where you can
go possible to get a hold of when they first came out. I do
remember that, and then they just I think people just got a hold of
them, and you know, things advanced to move on and they started.
They came out with so many things. They came out with, like the
Wei board or the we Fitness. It was like a little scale that you
can stand on and I measured like your character. Mine was always like the
little chubby, fat guy, and it told me how many days I've gone
without exercise, and I just wanted to play the bowling game and it would
constantly remind me of my bad health. Do you remember the first system that
came out to try to compete with PlayStation two, the Nintendo GameCube. The
GameCube. I never had one of those. Not many people did because it
was a piece of junk that, you know. I think people quickly realized
this was a flawed product from Nintendo. But I had a buddy, my
best friend of this day. He got a game Cube and he thought he
was about to be, you know, the coolest kid around in the neighborhood.
Was different because he was ahead, right, the PlayStation two is old
news now right, Yes, your Xbox original is old news. He had
the game Cube, and man, we went over and played whatever game he
had, and I could tell it was a piece of junk, tough hell
for him to take. Yeah, and it you know, I guess what
I see why they call it GameCube. It is an actual cube. It
was a cube. The I mean the Nintendo sixty four was was prior to
this, right, yes, yeah, they tried to get too cute too
quick, because they could have like the Nintendo sixty four controller was I mean
classic, and then they just tried to get cute and put something new out
there because PlayStation two had come out and the Xbox was there. But yeah,
it's amazing that you mentioned that because at the Nintendo what people talk about,
and because the sixty four was literally right before my generation, so I
never had one. I never had the Dreamcast or anything like that, but
I understand like how life changing and game changing it was to you know,
just kids and just the gaming industry. And then just after that, it
seemed like it fell kind of flat. They tried to go too much outside
the box. Nintendo first with the with the game cube, and then the
Nintendo Wii, which was really cool because they had the numb Chucks and it
had like you can actually play like that. It was I guess, yeah,
Like I remember the Wi a lot of people playing tennis, yeahnis and
the bowling. Yeah, like there was a Mario Tennis game or something.
Yeah, but like for most of them, they were like the little characters
with just like the stick body and the big old head. It just like
it never materialized. They've gone up with so many next gen versions with the
Xbox and the PlayStation, and the graphics are so like badass, and they've
just developed, and it just seemed like Nintendo had just like the peak of
it was the Nintendo sixty four. Now once again, I say, I
do like the Nintendo Switch. That's really cool. I think they kind of
redeemed themselves. But what would you say? What would you say? And
I guess maybe this is a tough question to answer because I'm sure like the
latest is just considered the greatest. But I feel like for PlayStation, like
when they gave us the PlayStation two, and again this is just my biased,
of course, but like I feel like that was a big deal and
it had a long shelf life and again they've they've done better since then.
But yeah, with Nintendo, I don't know, man, as much as
Nintendo has has had, you know, decades of different systems and whatnot.
Is anything really top the original Nintendo like that was you know, again it's
clearly an early stages as far as technology, but like that was still a
classic, Like you can still people still play that. Yeah, people still
travel around the world, and it was really cool. When I went to
New York about a year ago, they had like the Nintendo Store and they
just like every Nintendo iteration from like Kirby or Pokemon or Mario. It's just
like that's gaming just walking into there and still being like a loyal PlayStation.
But I just feel like that's gaming when you walked in. That's where to
me, it feels, I feel like gaming started was with Nintendo. Oh
sure, yeah, I think there was what was the one? There was
one system prior to Nintendo, but it never I mean Nintendo's what you know
took over. Was it? Was it the Sega Genesis? No? No,
no, Sega was post that? Okay? Was it? Like a
I'm bad at that. I'm gonna I'm gonna have to go look it up
now, because again, this is something that you know, I'm sure if
I just give oh my goodness Atari. Was that a system or that a
game? I think I think so? Was that was just like the joystick
and you can play several games right like some yeah tar Atari game system.
Uh let's see here. It came out and I guess they still they still
make stuff right now, which is crazy to think. But that was again
they had like the Pong and yes, Pong and what's what's the one where
you shoot up at the at the at the man like you shoot up at
the at the things coming? Oh, Tetris not not Tetris damn, And
I can't remember, but it's it's I know exactly what you're talking about.
It's like it was one of those games they were like your shoot yeah,
and it was in like arcades and stuff, and we were kids. I
can't, I can't. We'll think, we'll think of it, or we'll
have the text line filled with like thirty people letting us know because again we've
we've just completely blanked. And that happens from time to time. That's why
I like the text line. They let us know how how stupid we are
for not remembering things. You know, on the fly. All right,
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because if they go get a Bill self or even in Ed Cooley, I
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Just to clarify, I don't think there's any reports out there as far as
you know Bill Self legitimately being a candidate for the Lakers. But as I
mentioned, you would think that if their target and the guy they went all
in on, Dan Hurley was the kind of coach they wanted, they would
stick with that criteria and go to the college level. I mean, the
whole JJ Redick thing. This doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
It does make sense as far as that type of hire because, as we've
discussed in the last couple of days, the NBA, when they hire coaches
now, they don't go get guys like Dan Hurley or even Bill Self.
They go get dudes who played the games somewhat recently that NBA players can relate
to and experience as an actual coach. Doesn't seem to matter a whole lot.
If you've been in the NBA, you've been a part of an organization,
you understand the structure of the league. They'll let you kind of learn
on the fly as far as coaching, because I think what it really comes
down to is just managing egos. That kind of stuff. Balancing, you
know, personnel. So I actually thought it was somewhat, you know,
a somewhat of a good look for the Lakers to go in that direction,
but they got turned down. So I wouldn't be shocked if they end up
taking a run at a college coach. Wouldn't shock me at all. Because
the latest on the JJ Reddick stuff is that it wasn't completely made up.
But I think it was Windhorst earlier today from ESPN that said that the Lakers
and JJ Redick have had like very very little contact at all, and I
think the contact, and again I could be wrong here, but I'm pretty
sure the way it was described is that the contact, the contact they had
with one another was kind of just to talk about how it had become such
a big story and they didn't really know where it had come from, which
I don't know if that's true or not, but the fact that Reddick was
viewed as this guy that was for sure going to be a Lakers coach by
just about everybody, and they were going after Dan Hurley that whole time.
So anyways, I'm trying to think of which coach in college basketball leaving to
go to the Lakers would create the biggest not Domino effect necessarily, but it
would really shake some things up. And I don't really know who that is,
because let's be real, in recent years college basketball, like the Ogs
have kind of phased out and moved on right, Like coach K's gone,
Roy Williams is gone, Jay Wright is gone, but Tino is not gone.
But he's at Saint John's. And even if the Lakers did want him,
which they won't, that wouldn't really do much for college basketball. It
would just mean Saint John's is starting all over again. Now in real time,
it would do a lot because there's a lot of players in the portal
that ended up picking Saint John's that if they become available, that'd be a
big deal. Bill Self leaving Kansas would be a big deal, But I
don't like who would they get to replace him, Like I was going to
say one of his assistants, but I think Bill Self. I mean,
if you look at you look at his staff, Yeah, what is a
self tree? Like? So you know a lot of the coaches that are
employee that are on that staff are guys who have been former coaches before and
it didn't work out, Like right now, Curtis Townsend is his top assistant,
and I don't I don't know if he's ever been a head coach before,
but I feel like if you just elve like that, I don't know
if that would be a great look because he's not He's not a big name
or anything like that. He's not somebody. I mean, again, this
is a guy that has been on Kansas's staff for twenty years. So if
he was this big up and coming coach, he'd have been hired by somebody
else. Doesn't mean he won't have success, Like maybe they do that Norm
Roberts, that's a name that you're familiar with. Maybe you didn't even know
that he was on that staff, but he coached at Saint John's and also
had previously coached at He's been I feel like he's been a head coach at
more than just Saint John's, but that was where he was prior to joining
the Bill Self staff. So again, I guess maybe it is a domino
effect because Bill Self leaving Kansas would be a big deal. But if they
went out and got I don't know, let's say they went after Brad Stevens,
maybe, I mean I doubt, I mean, they may go after
him. I don't think he would leave because he's right now, like the
best GM in the NBA and he didn't have to do a lot of the
BS work or he was the other one in the NBA right now. Yeah,
yeah, maybe that maybe that's the maybe that's the college opportunity he would
he would pursue because you know, it's Kansas. Again, I still believe
and I hate to say it, but that's it's my opinion, and I
don't want to lie to you. I think Kentucky's the best job in college
basketball do so you know that's my opinion. However, you could certainly make
the case that Kansas might be better or maybe it's one A, one B
either way, so they could, you know, maybe they go after Jerome
Tang who turned down who was it turned down Arkansas and then they went and
got Cali Perry. I mean, you could throw it out there, but
Cali Perry in Kansas, that would never happen. But maybe, you know,
maybe it's Nate Oates because he's got a momentum now and he's in he
just took Bama to the Final four. So again, overall, if Kansas,
Kansas is one of those programs. If we're being honest with ourselves,
you know Bill self has I mean, he he's got two titles, which
again I feel like he should have more because he's had really good teams.
And when you look at the two championships, he has not many have ever
coached college basketball at any point been able to win more than one. This
is a guy who's done it and is actually still coaching right now. But
I feel like he's had a lot of teams that flamed out. I feel
like he's had a lot of recruits that you know, were five stars that
you know it didn't work out. He's still clearly successful and that is that,
and the proof in that is when you look at the I mean Bill
self has missed the tournament one time as a head coach. So like at
Kansas, they've made the tournament every year since he's been there. That goes
back twenty years, so he's been there for twenty years. So you know,
if they were to go hire somebody to replace him, and you know
they struggle for a few years, not like Louisville did with Kenny Payne,
but like Kansas has been very consistently at the top of this sport for twenty
years. I'm not sure you can find a program that in twenty years time
has been as consistent as Kansas. I mean again, yeah, they had
some early upsets in the tournament during his early stretch there, but they won
the title a couple of years ago. They haven't made the Sweet sixteen prior
to that championship in a little while. But either way, like you think
that Bill self is the best coach in college basketball, still hard for me
to you know right now. I mean, I have to go Hurley just
because of what he's done. But outside of Hurley, I think you'd have
to start with Bill Souff. I think those two are the best coaches right
now in college basketball, and both of them have a couple of national championships
on their resume, which again, that alone, regardless of active or not,
that puts you an elite status. So in real time, though,
because the portal exists, any move like this could be huge for I mean
if they again I hate to sound like this is actually happening, but if
the Lakers did go after Bill's self and he took that job, you'd have
a lot of shakeup because their next hire would probably I mean Kansas is the
kind of job that wouldn't just elevate somebody. They're Kansas, they would probably
go hire a big name coach and maybe they get turned down a couple of
times like Kentucky did during their search. But either way, I mean,
that could really shake up college basketball for next season. But we'll see,
you know, I don't know where the Lakers are going to go, but
if they do get a college coach, it could impact this upcoming season and
really just impact college hoops overall. And the thing about the Ogs, like
you said that left, like the Roy Williams and the coach K' they already
had their I mean it's not like they abruptly did it. They already had
like even well I guess I guess Roy Williams kind of just did it,
where coach k still had the whole retirement, of course, but they both
had like they're guys in waiting. You know. It was always it was
it was always going to be the people that were their close assistant coaches and
who the Shire and then Davis. Yeah, even even Jay Ryo when he
stepped down, he had a longtime assistant that was there for him for years.
Kyle Neptune, who had just taken a head coaching job and was there
one year, did not win, and then ended up getting the Nova job
because he was Jay Wright's So you know, maybe Kansas ends up doing that.
But again, Bill's self doesn't really have that type of staff. I
mean, I guess it could be Curtis Townsend, but I feel like if
he's been there for twenty years, he doesn't want to be a head coach
or you know, people just don't view him as somebody that you that you
could, you know, win at a high level with. Some guys are
just better off as assistants. I mean, that's what we learned with Kenny
Payne. We learned that the hard way though. All Right, So this
story, I don't know if it's getting a whole lot of attention. It
was from the Associated Press, that's where I saw it first, and I
feel like it's a big deal because I think you're going to see more of
this and what happens, I don't know. And what I'm referring to is
a lawsuit that was filed by ten former North Carolina State basketball players who were
on that nineteen eighty three national championship team. So they've sued the NCAA and
the Collegiate Licensing Company seeking compensation for unauthorized use of their name, image,
and likeness. And this lawsuit is clearly in place because of the recent settlement.
So two point eight billion dollars in damages to former college athletes and twenty
two percent of the average Power five schools revenue is what the NCUBA is going
to have to pay to former athletes. So former athletes that are covered by
this settlement, if they choose to opt in, which I don't know why
you wouldn't, you'd be able to make money. It includes an estimated one
hundred of fourteen thousand and five hundred Division one athletes. But here's what I
don't understand. If you are going to opt in to get money from this
settlement as an NCAA athlete who couldn't make money through NIL because of the archaic
amateurism model, you can only opt in if you're somebody who played from June
fifteenth of twenty sixteen until November third of twenty twenty three. So if you
are a former player from previous eras I mean, I don't again, I'm
sure maybe there's an easy answer to that. But now that they've at least
admitted yeah with nil meaning name, image, and likeness, we were ripping
you guys off, right, We made a ton of I mean, the
NCE doublea's existence is really chalked up to the amount of money, the amount
of revenue they generate from the NCAA tournament. But still there's other events tied.
I mean, look, even if even if you only want to look
at it from a basketball perspective, either way, the NC DOUBLEA at the
end of every year, they're profiting money. They're making a lot of money.
So if you played sports that even don't generate a lot of revenue,
just knowing that you did play a sport in the company that governed that sport,
the NC DOUBLEA made a ton of money and you got nothing. I
mean, I don't know if you're gonna win in corps, but you may
have, you know, you may have somebody that would take you know,
take you on and when you could follow a lawsuit like these guys did.
So I just don't understand how you can claim that you were being at Like
again, like if you played in nineteen ninety nine and you were a superstar
and you couldn't make any money because of the again ancient archaic amateurism model that
they tried to stick with forever until Congress got involved and forced their hand,
like, how would you not be entitled to compensation? Like, I don't,
I don't understand why the time frame there is athletes for because again,
these guys in nineteen eighty three, you know, that was a very very
highly public I mean, anytime you win a national championship year in the limelight,
you're getting a lot of attention. But if you consider you know,
if you consider that team specifically, I mean that was the late Jimmy v
Jim Volvano's team that was known as the Cardiac Pack. They had a you
know, very close victories in the n SUAA tournament that fifty four to fifty
two went over Houston on the you know, on the final seconds. That's
still one of the most replayed you know clips you'll see from previous NSTUABAA tournaments,
and we all know Valvano running on the court. That became an iconic
moment that you see oftentimes throughout the in stub of a tournament. So I
mean, I feel like these guys probably have a good chance of getting some
money. But even if you know, I think even before you get to
that point where there's either a settlement or maybe they win or I just think
right now, when this starts to really become talked about more so in the
news cycle, there's college athlete former college athletes, I should say, sitting
around that probably don't have any money, or at least they're not, you
know, not living living a great life. Maybe they're living check to check.
Maybe they're in poverty. I don't know, because they went to school
and you know, they ended up not having a great career after basketball or
football or whatever it is. Like, I just think there's going to be
a lot of people finding a lawyer to try to sue because they want money
as well. And I don't know why they would not be entitled to it
if in fact, others are going to be entitled to it, Like,
it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Again, maybe there's a
specific reason, but I think a can of worms was opened up here when
it comes to to this recent settlement that again will allow schools and I should
stop saying the word allow, because yeah, you don't have to you're allowed
to pay twenty two million and last I checked, the twenty two million dollar
annual bill is not something anybody on planet Earth will be looking forward to.
But if you choose not to pay and pay as much as possible, meaning
as much as they let you in, as much as you can, as
far as the funds you you know you have, you're gonna get left behind.
So they're not making anybody pay anybody anything. But if you choose not
to, you might as well just close your athletic department because you won't be
able to compete at a high level. It's just not I mean, it's
just not possible. All right, quick break, we'll come back on the
other side if you are just now joining us. I did start the show
with a an admission, probably something I should have taken to the grave,
But sometimes I like to, you know, really just open up on this
show and share things to get a reacty. Not not to you know,
not for shock value, but really just because you know, I'm an insecure
human being and sometimes you guys can you know, make me feel even more
insecure, or you can make me feel like, hey, Nick, it's
not that bad. I use you guys, really is like my therapists.
But I shared something I did earlier today, and I'll save it for the
five o'clock hour when we get the third hour started today, because had some
good responses Austin to my situation earlier today. All right, minded people,
it's right, that's absolutely what it is. So again, stick with us
right here. We got a lot more to go. It's a Tuesday.
It's coffee and company feel but Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety now back to
coffee and company fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day. Who's this
some vibing? This is Gnna Gunna Gunna? You ever heard of him?
I have not familiar, but I've heard the name. Shout out Gunna,
Yeah, shout out gunn You Nna right, Gunna. I don't know if
you've been hearing about all the the rico stuff with him and Young Thug.
I don't know if you've seen some of that. Now somebody was somebody was
getting a reco charge? Is it Gunna? It was it was Gunna and
Young Thug. They condolence each other. Uh oh yeah, I think that
newsg is his His lawyer just got sentenced for a contempt of court and it
has to spend like twenty days in jailers. I did see that the Yeah,
so it's young thug or Gunn's lawyer. It's a young thug's lawyer.
Okay, so I did see that. He requested that the judge allow him
to serve his his jail sentence only on weekends, because they do that for
people, by the way, who aren't like, you know, you got
to do some time and you still need to be you know, employed and
whatnot, so they just have you come in. It's been the weekend there.
Yeah, I think he's getting like ten weekends, and he requested that
it be with his client with him. Yeah, and you know their boys,
they're going to go, they're going to discuss the next plans. Yeah,
i'd say moving forward, I'd say, somebody who you know, lives
their story straight, lives the life of a criminal, and then you know,
parlays that into being very successful and famous as a hip hop artist.
You know, not a surprise, You're going to have a criminal attorney,
and your criminal attorney probably has a much different background and lifestyle than you.
But over time, you connect your bond and you become you become family.
Yeah, I mean that's that's it's actually beautiful, beautiful thing. Why I
mean becomes slime. It's a beautiful thing if you think about it. All
right, before we get to the top of the hour, here shout out
to n C State. I just mentioned that lawsuit that they filed from the
night the nineteen eighty three championship team. Ten of the players from that title
team has final lawsuit claiming, hey, you used art and you used our
name, image and likeness as well. We need to cut. So we'll
see if it's successful. But how about the year NC State has had men's
Final four women's Final four College World Series and their football team had nine wins
and finished in the top twenty five. I mean, that's that's It's not
the year at the Cardinal because that'll never happen when it comes to what Louisville
was able to pull off many years ago, which some are still of the
belief that that was a deal with the devil. So ye're at the wolf
Pack. Yeah, here we go. This never gets old, by the
way, No, not at all. I can like I'm going back to
you know, young Nick watching this on TV, and it was it was
such a so yeah, shout out to the Wolfpack. It's the year of
the wolf Pack. I don't know if they're gonna win. I mean,
they haven't actually won any national championship of those four, but hey, if
you're there College World Series top twenty five at the end of the season,
final four in both men's and women's basketball, you've had a good year.
But now they have to take on this Kentucky team, which both Kentucky and
in C State have not taken a loss in postseason play yet, so should
be should be a good matchup there, all right. So something else I
wanted to mention really quickly here just because I found this to be rather interesting.
It's also not surprising but interesting. Our buddy Zack Barnett, a football
scoop who is our He doesn't know it, and I guess he does know
it, but I'm sure he doesn't take a lot of pride. And he
is our official college football corresponding here, our college football insider, mister Zack
Barnett, who joins us throughout the football season and here and there, which
in fact, I think I'm going to have him on tomorrow. But anyways,
he puts something out there at football Scoop that again, when you consider
the changing landscape with the portal and anil like, nobody sticks around very long
anywhere, especially at the quarterback position in college football. But right now he
put together, he put together some research, and right now, meaning going
into the twenty twenty four season, there are not many programs across college football
that return these four things. I guess it's these five things. Head coach,
offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, special teams coach, and a multi year
starting quarterback. I mean that used to be pretty normal, right It wasn't
a surprise or a shock to anyone that you brought back every coordinator and your
head coach and your quarterback is returning after being a starter for you know,
multiple years. So right now in the ACC, only five of the fifteen
teams return those things Clemson, SMU, Stanford, Virginia and Virginia Tech.
And maybe the biggest turnover is the coaches. Maybe they get another opportunity,
maybe they get a head coaching job. But I feel like quarterbacks, man,
Like, right now, Louisville's got a twenty six year old quarterback,
Tyler Schuck, who's been out of high school for a long time. Now,
he's played it or again He's played at Texas Tech, so he's played
a lot, he's experienced, but he's never played here. So like it's
you know, it's not as if everybody's got a bunch of rookies, but
as far as like overall continuity, meaning your quarterback that's in play has been
there, he's led to your program for two years at minimum, and you
have your whole staff back. Like again, that used to be really normal.
Now it's not. The Big Ten only has three schools of the eighteen
that can claim they're bringing back that type of continuity. Illinois, Nebraskan,
Purdue, the sec four of the sixteen, Florida, Georgia, Ole,
Miss and Texas. So, I mean, I don't know what to make
of that, but I would imagine that, you know, it could be
wrong, but a lot of these schools that I'm looking at, they're not
very good, you know what I mean. Like, I feel like Illinois
is probably in that position because they haven't been good enough to I mean,
they haven't lost an assistant coach that's a coordinator to another job, because they
probably haven't done enough to warrant a real look as far as getting an opportunity
to be a head coach and you know, at quarterback, I'd say,
if your results are pretty mid and you know, you don't feel like there's
competition for your job, like you know, I just I wouldn't be shocked
that if in five years time, maybe maybe not even that long, maybe
three years time, you look back at the you know, you look,
you look back at this criteria, and I would be willing to bet that
a lot of the schools that are still checking that box are probably not ones
that are that good. I mean, last year, I believe it was
more than half, maybe closer to three fourths of the acc their quarterbacks were
guys who started at a different school. So it looks like even at the
f even if I'm not the FCS, but the even at the G five
level, there's actually even less schools that can claim they have that type of
continuity. And again that's unfortunate for them because those guys are leaving, probably
because they got a better head coaching job, or they're quarterbacks leaving because they're
stepping up a level and leaving G five to go to the Power four.
Just thought that was interesting. All right, quick break, we'll come back
finish strong here our third hour, the five o'clock hours. Coming up next,
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