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It's time for Coffee and company,
fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine

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day, Now Here's Nick Coffee.
In the last week or so, it

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has really really hit me that we
got still three months before college football gets

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here. I mean not fully three
months, and when you get to mid

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August it kind of feels like it's
here. But man, I just saw

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the holiday weekend slate of games and
I can't wait. It's going to be

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along, you know, three months
roughly before we get there. But this

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is what we're going to get in
the holiday weekend. We've got Clemson against

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Georgia at noon, followed by Miami
at Florida three point thirty, Notre Dame

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at Texas A and m at seven
thirty, and then on Sunday USC versus

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LASHU and that game is going to
be played in Vegas. And again,

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there's all kinds of big games,
but I'm in fact everything, every matchup

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that I just mentioned is going to
be on ABC. So I mean,

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you know, there'll be other really
good games, but I would imagine those

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are probably the big, the big
matchup to kick off the season. So

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the first game is actually actually never
mind what I'm looking at here is from

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the SEC's website, so they're not
going to mention games on other networks.

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But I know there's another game across
the pond that's going to actually get us

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kicked off. I can't think of
who it is that plays, but yeah,

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two months in three weeks, I
guess roughly, yeah, and we'll

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be there. And we talked about
it last week. Maybe it was a

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week before. I don't remember.
I get my dates mixed up. But

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with Louisville schedule, this is the
first time since two thousand and eight,

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I think it is since, that
they're going to open up the season on

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a Saturday against a non Power five
team. Now that's a little misleading because

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on the holiday weekend they've sometimes played
on that Sunday, which actually I think

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works out good because you're not competing
with other I mean, there's rarely many

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games at all on that day and
you kind of have a chance to even

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potentially have a standalone game. But
I do have a little bit of fomo

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here because I'm going to be super
excited to see Louisville kick it off on

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that Saturday, August thirty first against
Austin p because you know, it's our

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first chance to see Jeff Brahm in
year two. And then the next week

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they play Jacksonville State, which will
be there. There's Week two opponent that'll

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be a three thirty kick at LNN
Federal Credit Union Stadium. But I do

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like having a meaningful game in the
first couple of weeks really the opener,

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Yeah, just because I like,
I don't know, I like, I

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want to be thrown right into the
fire, not like when you played Bama

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to kick off the season in twenty
eighteen, but I mean, like just

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to kind of see where you stand. Right Like Louisville was in a dog

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fight last year in the opener against
Georgia Tech. Looked like they were going

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to get blown out at halftime,
and sure enough, they came out and

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really dominated the second half themselves and
won without much trouble. And I think

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we all knew that Georgia Tech wasn't
going to be an elite team, but

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you were playing an ACC team,
and at least it gave you some level

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of where you were, right.
I mean, it's hard to do that

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in college football, right, Like, well, hey, we played this

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team competitively and their rank, so
that means you know, it's just you

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know, there's it's impossible in college
football specifically to really you know, go

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off that like for example, it
you know, actually Holvie was a good

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example last year, right, they
were you know, they were ten and

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two team in the regular season,
but their loss in acc play, the

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only loss they had in conference play
was to Pittsburgh, who had their worst

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season in the Patnrduzierra. So you
really never know. But yeah, I'm

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sure when we get to August and
we're impatiently waiting for that kickoff on the

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thirty first, I'm not going to
care who it's against. I'm going to

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just be excited to see this team
in action. And there is something to

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be said, especially in the portal
era, when you have so many newcomers

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from other programs that have transferred in
that you have games like this to where

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you you should be able to you
know, kind of get your teeth,

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you know, cut your teeth a
little bit, get acclimated, right,

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I don't want to say shake off
some rust, but get you know,

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kind of find a groove a little
bit. And the one downside of these

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games is if you end up playing
an Austin p or a Jacksonville State closer

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than you know, you thought you
would. It'll make you worry, and

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maybe it is because you've got real
problems, but it could just be,

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you know, the human element of
sports, and that is playing to the

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level of your competition, regardless of
how much you really mentally lock in and

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say, look, we got to
we got to play this opponent like we're

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playing Kirby Smart and Georgia. It's
impossible because again, the human element is

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a powerful thing. But anyways,
yeah, we uh, we got a

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few months to go. And that
makes me makes me said, hopefully these

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summer months fly by. And I
mean it when I said, I know

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summer is most of everyone's favorite season. I feel like, well maybe some

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people like the spring and fall,
but like summer. You know, summer's

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you know, schools out for the
summer, people take their vacations in the

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summer. You usually get good weather
in the summer. But one of the

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reasons I don't like summer as much
as others is because when it comes to

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the sports that I really care about
that I'm you know that I at times

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feel like they're my religion. They're
not going on right, Like I can't

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get into baseball in the NBA.
I mean, it'll end here soon and

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even now I can't really get into
this postseason. So yeah, I can't

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wait for football to get here.
I'm trying to think about it too much.

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Also, this probably don't affect you, but maybe a couple of people

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like myself an other video game playing
guys out there. The EA Sports College

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Football Game is finally coming back,
and that's in July. For the last

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ten or so years, it's been
one of the more popular games, at

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least among people at my generation because
they love the college football was different than

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Madden, but EA Sports of course, and the nil the name, image

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and likeness stuff that went on back
you know during the mid teens. I

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feel about different than to not have
it. Well, it's finally made its

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way back, and you said it
comes out in July. It comes out

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in July, and that's given everybody
kind of like a half taste of college

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but and they can finally they can
finally play it. Virtually everyone likes going

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on there and like taking a small
school, a trashy school and like making

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them powerhouses. Yeah, you feel
like you're you know, you're the head.

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You know, you walk around your
everyday life. Yeah, actually thinking

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you're a head coach. You wore
the head coach and they're they're what.

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I'm not punching the clock here in
my day job. I got a program

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to worry about. I got guys
that are in the portal. I gotta

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figure it out, like you can
kind of get lost in it, which

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I think it could be a lot
of fun. I'm not a gamer,

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but obviously it was about to ask. But but I but when I did

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play video games as a kid or
even as a teenager, I always played

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sports games. Actually I played tomb
Raider, which I loved, Deep Cut

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Crash Bandicoot you remember that. Oh
yes, those were the two games I

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played that weren't sports. Other than
that, I played NBA Live, not

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two K, because I don't think
two K existed whenever I was the game

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live days. And then you know, NBA gam of course was great,

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but that was when I had my
second genesis. But yeah, Madden,

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I never really got into a whole
lot. But college football that was the

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game. And I know why people
are this excited that it's coming back.

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I feel like when it's released,
like Sports Twitter, it's all anybody's gonna

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talk about right like it's gonna be
everywhere. Yep. I was wondering if

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you've been seeing any of that already. Oh yeah, already, like me

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hyping me ready to sit my starting
quarterback after throwing the first interception on the

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first game or whatnot against Bamba.
The Internet is a powerful thing, and

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at times it's it reminds us just
how toxic society is. I mean,

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it's I always ask myself when it
comes to the Internet, did you know,

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did these people that really make a
fool of themselves on the Internet and

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expose it to the world. Did
they exist before the Internet? And they

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did, It's just they didn't have
a platform to really show it. But

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what I'm getting at is there's a
lot of really really funny stuff, like

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the collective sense of humor that certain
people have within Twitter and TikTok and stuff

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like that. Yeah, I find
I find enjoyment and amusement from that.

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And I've seen so many like clips
from really hardcore football movies, like coaches

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given the pep talk, or a
coach really just getting on one of his

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players and the captions are like,
yeah, this is me talking to my

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quarterback after we after we got upset
and we two and it's in NCAA football,

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right, So I h are you? I mean again, I'm gonna

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really expose myself here as as somebody
that not only doesn't play video games,

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I don't know anything about them.
What is like the system that people use

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now? I mean it's his next
PlayStation, Xbox PlayStation, Xbox are still

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ruling. They're on like they're like
their fifth gen or something like that.

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There's a PS five and then there's
the Xbox one X or one at Xbox

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one. So those are the latest. Those are the latest, but I

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think they're they're due to come up
and have like the newest one to come

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out probably like next year. And
that's a that's a shame because the PlayStations

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have just now widely started becoming available. Before last Christmas, they were still

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hard for any nobody to get their
hands on. I have a PS five.

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I'm I'm a I'm a loyal sony
guy. I've always had a PlayStation.

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That's where I played Crash Banded Crew
growing up, and I I love

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that stuff so like but just like
you, that's all I played was just

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like sports games. Those games are
perfect for my ADHD. You could get

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on there and knock out a game
and twenty thirty minutes maybe, but some

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of the cooler like story games and
like war game Call of Duty, I'm

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not good at that. Halo,
Halo, not good at shooting games.

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First, I just never had any
interest in that just wasn't my thing.

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I was never really like a war
freak, you know. I was never

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really like down to go and do
all that they have, like cool games,

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God of War, like the New
Spider Man that was that was pretty

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cool, but they're like story driven
games, and I just don't have the

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patients. I just want to get
on there, throw a couple of touchdowns

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or have a thirty point game with
my little virtual character and then then get

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out of there. I'm not trying
to solve a mystery. I had a

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buddy who was really into a game
called Assassin's Creed, Yes, and that

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kind of that kind of looked cool, but like again I'm with you,

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like I just don't. I'm not
gonna I'm not going to give up a

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lot of time to get into it
learn about it, and it's just never

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really been, never been my thing. But I had a sega that was

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my first ever system that I got, which I was debating what I asked.

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I got it for Christmas, and
I asked for a Sega but I

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was potentially gonna ask for a Super
Nintendo went to Sega instead, and then

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I got a PlayStation not long after
that, and then my last system was

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a PlayStation two, which of course
is you know, now ancient, right,

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they're making their way back now.
Now they're expensive to buy it stores

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at like little like those little card
shops itself. They don't still like manufacturing.

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We're talking used right, yeah,
yeah, I use Yeah, they

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don't still manufacture. So I just
looked at a PlayStation two came out in

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November of two thousand, so it's
twenty four years old, which makes me

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feel very very old. I remember
getting my first PS two because my first,

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my first ever one, was the
original PlayStation. There's just I don't

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even think I got any games,
but I think I got like a wrestling

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game, like a WWE WWF at
the time. At one point PlayStation two

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did they all come with the ability
to hardline internet? Do you know?

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I think the PS two is where
it started, because yeah, I ever

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used that feature, because that you
know, there's no Wi Fi in my

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home growing up, we had we
had dialogue. Yeah so yeah, yeah,

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you had to turn off, you
had to make sure no one was

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on the phone. But but I
remember when I realized you could put you

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could watch DVD's on your PlayStation two. And I remember as a kid thinking

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to myself, twelve year old Nick, well, technology will never top this.

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This is this is this is the
biggest advancement in technology we've ever experienced,

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and I'm sure nothing will top it. This is crazy. I can

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watch a movie on my gaming system, and you know, now things have

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clearly advanced much much further than that. Now they have handhelds. I have

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a Nintendo Switch, and Nintendo Switch
is really really fun. I could still

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get down on some of the mark
like Mario Kart. I love Mario Kart,

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Party games, Party games are five. You just don't fire up Assassin's

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Creed. When people about Nintendo Wii, is that still around the way right,

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I don't think. I mean they
did. They have a long shelf

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life it, Like I remember,
it was a big thing where you can

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go possible to get a hold of
when they first came out. I do

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remember that, and then they just
I think people just got a hold of

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them, and you know, things
advanced to move on and they started.

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They came out with so many things. They came out with, like the

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Wei board or the we Fitness.
It was like a little scale that you

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can stand on and I measured like
your character. Mine was always like the

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little chubby, fat guy, and
it told me how many days I've gone

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without exercise, and I just wanted
to play the bowling game and it would

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constantly remind me of my bad health. Do you remember the first system that

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came out to try to compete with
PlayStation two, the Nintendo GameCube. The

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GameCube. I never had one of
those. Not many people did because it

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was a piece of junk that,
you know. I think people quickly realized

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this was a flawed product from Nintendo. But I had a buddy, my

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best friend of this day. He
got a game Cube and he thought he

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was about to be, you know, the coolest kid around in the neighborhood.

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Was different because he was ahead,
right, the PlayStation two is old

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news now right, Yes, your
Xbox original is old news. He had

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the game Cube, and man,
we went over and played whatever game he

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had, and I could tell it
was a piece of junk, tough hell

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for him to take. Yeah,
and it you know, I guess what

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I see why they call it GameCube. It is an actual cube. It

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was a cube. The I mean
the Nintendo sixty four was was prior to

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this, right, yes, yeah, they tried to get too cute too

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quick, because they could have like
the Nintendo sixty four controller was I mean

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classic, and then they just tried
to get cute and put something new out

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there because PlayStation two had come out
and the Xbox was there. But yeah,

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it's amazing that you mentioned that because
at the Nintendo what people talk about,

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and because the sixty four was literally
right before my generation, so I

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never had one. I never had
the Dreamcast or anything like that, but

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I understand like how life changing and
game changing it was to you know,

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just kids and just the gaming industry. And then just after that, it

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seemed like it fell kind of flat. They tried to go too much outside

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the box. Nintendo first with the
with the game cube, and then the

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Nintendo Wii, which was really cool
because they had the numb Chucks and it

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had like you can actually play like
that. It was I guess, yeah,

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Like I remember the Wi a lot
of people playing tennis, yeahnis and

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the bowling. Yeah, like there
was a Mario Tennis game or something.

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Yeah, but like for most of
them, they were like the little characters

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with just like the stick body and
the big old head. It just like

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it never materialized. They've gone up
with so many next gen versions with the

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Xbox and the PlayStation, and the
graphics are so like badass, and they've

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just developed, and it just seemed
like Nintendo had just like the peak of

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it was the Nintendo sixty four.
Now once again, I say, I

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do like the Nintendo Switch. That's
really cool. I think they kind of

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redeemed themselves. But what would you
say? What would you say? And

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I guess maybe this is a tough
question to answer because I'm sure like the

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latest is just considered the greatest.
But I feel like for PlayStation, like

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when they gave us the PlayStation two, and again this is just my biased,

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of course, but like I feel
like that was a big deal and

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it had a long shelf life and
again they've they've done better since then.

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But yeah, with Nintendo, I
don't know, man, as much as

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Nintendo has has had, you know, decades of different systems and whatnot.

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Is anything really top the original Nintendo
like that was you know, again it's

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clearly an early stages as far as
technology, but like that was still a

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classic, Like you can still people
still play that. Yeah, people still

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travel around the world, and it
was really cool. When I went to

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New York about a year ago,
they had like the Nintendo Store and they

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just like every Nintendo iteration from like
Kirby or Pokemon or Mario. It's just

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like that's gaming just walking into there
and still being like a loyal PlayStation.

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But I just feel like that's gaming
when you walked in. That's where to

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me, it feels, I feel
like gaming started was with Nintendo. Oh

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sure, yeah, I think there
was what was the one? There was

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one system prior to Nintendo, but
it never I mean Nintendo's what you know

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took over. Was it? Was
it the Sega Genesis? No? No,

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no, Sega was post that?
Okay? Was it? Like a

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I'm bad at that. I'm gonna
I'm gonna have to go look it up

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now, because again, this is
something that you know, I'm sure if

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I just give oh my goodness Atari. Was that a system or that a

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game? I think I think so? Was that was just like the joystick

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and you can play several games right
like some yeah tar Atari game system.

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Uh let's see here. It came
out and I guess they still they still

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make stuff right now, which is
crazy to think. But that was again

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they had like the Pong and yes, Pong and what's what's the one where

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you shoot up at the at the
at the man like you shoot up at

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the at the things coming? Oh, Tetris not not Tetris damn, And

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I can't remember, but it's it's
I know exactly what you're talking about.

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It's like it was one of those
games they were like your shoot yeah,

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and it was in like arcades and
stuff, and we were kids. I

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can't, I can't. We'll think, we'll think of it, or we'll

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have the text line filled with like
thirty people letting us know because again we've

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we've just completely blanked. And that
happens from time to time. That's why

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I like the text line. They
let us know how how stupid we are

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for not remembering things. You know, on the fly. All right,

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any more updates out there as far as

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who the Lakers may go after,
which I know a lot of you don't

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care, but I feel like,
given that we are college basketball crazy around

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here, if they do try to
go get another college coach, you got

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to keep in mind they could potentially
rock some things up here in the summer

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because if they go get a Bill
self or even in Ed Cooley, I

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mean that would mean that the coaching
carousel and the college landscape hasn't hasn't completely

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come to an end yet. And
this ncaa settlement that has led to universities

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now being able to pay up to
twenty two million dollars annually for all student

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athletes and former athletes being able to
be compensated in some in some at some

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level, that has opened up I
think Pandora's box here as far as you

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know, everybody who played college sports
long ago saying hey, where's my cut?

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I wasn't getting paid and we already
have one massive lawsuit that's been filed.

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So I want to talk about that
because again I think they've opened up

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a box here that could make it
to where I mean. I mean,

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it's gonna be a mess. It
already is a mess, but it could

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be even worse if you have other
athletes from many decades ago saying, hey,

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they clearly benefited from my name,
image and likeness as well. So

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Just to clarify, I don't think
there's any reports out there as far as

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you know Bill Self legitimately being a
candidate for the Lakers. But as I

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mentioned, you would think that if
their target and the guy they went all

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in on, Dan Hurley was the
kind of coach they wanted, they would

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stick with that criteria and go to
the college level. I mean, the

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whole JJ Redick thing. This doesn't
make a lot of sense to me.

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It does make sense as far as
that type of hire because, as we've

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discussed in the last couple of days, the NBA, when they hire coaches

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now, they don't go get guys
like Dan Hurley or even Bill Self.

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They go get dudes who played the
games somewhat recently that NBA players can relate

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to and experience as an actual coach. Doesn't seem to matter a whole lot.

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If you've been in the NBA,
you've been a part of an organization,

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you understand the structure of the league. They'll let you kind of learn

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on the fly as far as coaching, because I think what it really comes

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down to is just managing egos.
That kind of stuff. Balancing, you

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know, personnel. So I actually
thought it was somewhat, you know,

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a somewhat of a good look for
the Lakers to go in that direction,

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but they got turned down. So
I wouldn't be shocked if they end up

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taking a run at a college coach. Wouldn't shock me at all. Because

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the latest on the JJ Reddick stuff
is that it wasn't completely made up.

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But I think it was Windhorst earlier
today from ESPN that said that the Lakers

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and JJ Redick have had like very
very little contact at all, and I

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think the contact, and again I
could be wrong here, but I'm pretty

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sure the way it was described is
that the contact, the contact they had

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with one another was kind of just
to talk about how it had become such

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a big story and they didn't really
know where it had come from, which

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I don't know if that's true or
not, but the fact that Reddick was

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viewed as this guy that was for
sure going to be a Lakers coach by

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just about everybody, and they were
going after Dan Hurley that whole time.

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So anyways, I'm trying to think
of which coach in college basketball leaving to

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go to the Lakers would create the
biggest not Domino effect necessarily, but it

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would really shake some things up.
And I don't really know who that is,

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because let's be real, in recent
years college basketball, like the Ogs

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have kind of phased out and moved
on right, Like coach K's gone,

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Roy Williams is gone, Jay Wright
is gone, but Tino is not gone.

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But he's at Saint John's. And
even if the Lakers did want him,

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which they won't, that wouldn't really
do much for college basketball. It

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would just mean Saint John's is starting
all over again. Now in real time,

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it would do a lot because there's
a lot of players in the portal

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that ended up picking Saint John's that
if they become available, that'd be a

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big deal. Bill Self leaving Kansas
would be a big deal, But I

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don't like who would they get to
replace him, Like I was going to

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say one of his assistants, but
I think Bill Self. I mean,

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if you look at you look at
his staff, Yeah, what is a

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self tree? Like? So you
know a lot of the coaches that are

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employee that are on that staff are
guys who have been former coaches before and

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it didn't work out, Like right
now, Curtis Townsend is his top assistant,

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and I don't I don't know if
he's ever been a head coach before,

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but I feel like if you just
elve like that, I don't know

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if that would be a great look
because he's not He's not a big name

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or anything like that. He's not
somebody. I mean, again, this

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is a guy that has been on
Kansas's staff for twenty years. So if

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he was this big up and coming
coach, he'd have been hired by somebody

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else. Doesn't mean he won't have
success, Like maybe they do that Norm

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Roberts, that's a name that you're
familiar with. Maybe you didn't even know

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that he was on that staff,
but he coached at Saint John's and also

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had previously coached at He's been I
feel like he's been a head coach at

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more than just Saint John's, but
that was where he was prior to joining

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the Bill Self staff. So again, I guess maybe it is a domino

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effect because Bill Self leaving Kansas would
be a big deal. But if they

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went out and got I don't know, let's say they went after Brad Stevens,

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maybe, I mean I doubt,
I mean, they may go after

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him. I don't think he would
leave because he's right now, like the

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best GM in the NBA and he
didn't have to do a lot of the

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BS work or he was the other
one in the NBA right now. Yeah,

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yeah, maybe that maybe that's the
maybe that's the college opportunity he would

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he would pursue because you know,
it's Kansas. Again, I still believe

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and I hate to say it,
but that's it's my opinion, and I

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don't want to lie to you.
I think Kentucky's the best job in college

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basketball do so you know that's my
opinion. However, you could certainly make

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the case that Kansas might be better
or maybe it's one A, one B

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either way, so they could,
you know, maybe they go after Jerome

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Tang who turned down who was it
turned down Arkansas and then they went and

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got Cali Perry. I mean,
you could throw it out there, but

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Cali Perry in Kansas, that would
never happen. But maybe, you know,

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maybe it's Nate Oates because he's got
a momentum now and he's in he

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just took Bama to the Final four. So again, overall, if Kansas,

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Kansas is one of those programs.
If we're being honest with ourselves,

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you know Bill self has I mean, he he's got two titles, which

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again I feel like he should have
more because he's had really good teams.

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And when you look at the two
championships, he has not many have ever

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coached college basketball at any point been
able to win more than one. This

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is a guy who's done it and
is actually still coaching right now. But

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I feel like he's had a lot
of teams that flamed out. I feel

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like he's had a lot of recruits
that you know, were five stars that

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you know it didn't work out.
He's still clearly successful and that is that,

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and the proof in that is when
you look at the I mean Bill

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self has missed the tournament one time
as a head coach. So like at

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Kansas, they've made the tournament every
year since he's been there. That goes

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back twenty years, so he's been
there for twenty years. So you know,

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if they were to go hire somebody
to replace him, and you know

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they struggle for a few years,
not like Louisville did with Kenny Payne,

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but like Kansas has been very consistently
at the top of this sport for twenty

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years. I'm not sure you can
find a program that in twenty years time

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has been as consistent as Kansas.
I mean again, yeah, they had

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some early upsets in the tournament during
his early stretch there, but they won

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the title a couple of years ago. They haven't made the Sweet sixteen prior

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to that championship in a little while. But either way, like you think

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that Bill self is the best coach
in college basketball, still hard for me

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to you know right now. I
mean, I have to go Hurley just

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because of what he's done. But
outside of Hurley, I think you'd have

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to start with Bill Souff. I
think those two are the best coaches right

409
00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:30.960
now in college basketball, and both
of them have a couple of national championships

410
00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:34.000
on their resume, which again,
that alone, regardless of active or not,

411
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that puts you an elite status.
So in real time, though,

412
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because the portal exists, any move
like this could be huge for I mean

413
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if they again I hate to sound
like this is actually happening, but if

414
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the Lakers did go after Bill's self
and he took that job, you'd have

415
00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:56.680
a lot of shakeup because their next
hire would probably I mean Kansas is the

416
00:25:56.759 --> 00:26:02.079
kind of job that wouldn't just elevate
somebody. They're Kansas, they would probably

417
00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:06.359
go hire a big name coach and
maybe they get turned down a couple of

418
00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:08.519
times like Kentucky did during their search. But either way, I mean,

419
00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:12.799
that could really shake up college basketball
for next season. But we'll see,

420
00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:15.000
you know, I don't know where
the Lakers are going to go, but

421
00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:19.559
if they do get a college coach, it could impact this upcoming season and

422
00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:22.759
really just impact college hoops overall.
And the thing about the Ogs, like

423
00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:26.519
you said that left, like the
Roy Williams and the coach K' they already

424
00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:29.359
had their I mean it's not like
they abruptly did it. They already had

425
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:32.279
like even well I guess I guess
Roy Williams kind of just did it,

426
00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:34.319
where coach k still had the whole
retirement, of course, but they both

427
00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:40.200
had like they're guys in waiting.
You know. It was always it was

428
00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:44.279
it was always going to be the
people that were their close assistant coaches and

429
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:48.839
who the Shire and then Davis.
Yeah, even even Jay Ryo when he

430
00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:52.160
stepped down, he had a longtime
assistant that was there for him for years.

431
00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:55.640
Kyle Neptune, who had just taken
a head coaching job and was there

432
00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:57.880
one year, did not win,
and then ended up getting the Nova job

433
00:26:57.920 --> 00:27:02.960
because he was Jay Wright's So you
know, maybe Kansas ends up doing that.

434
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:07.119
But again, Bill's self doesn't really
have that type of staff. I

435
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:10.480
mean, I guess it could be
Curtis Townsend, but I feel like if

436
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:14.680
he's been there for twenty years,
he doesn't want to be a head coach

437
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:18.000
or you know, people just don't
view him as somebody that you that you

438
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:21.400
could, you know, win at
a high level with. Some guys are

439
00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:25.279
just better off as assistants. I
mean, that's what we learned with Kenny

440
00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:26.759
Payne. We learned that the hard
way though. All Right, So this

441
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:30.240
story, I don't know if it's
getting a whole lot of attention. It

442
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:33.240
was from the Associated Press, that's
where I saw it first, and I

443
00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:37.359
feel like it's a big deal because
I think you're going to see more of

444
00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:41.720
this and what happens, I don't
know. And what I'm referring to is

445
00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:48.799
a lawsuit that was filed by ten
former North Carolina State basketball players who were

446
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:53.079
on that nineteen eighty three national championship
team. So they've sued the NCAA and

447
00:27:53.160 --> 00:28:00.960
the Collegiate Licensing Company seeking compensation for
unauthorized use of their name, image,

448
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:07.039
and likeness. And this lawsuit is
clearly in place because of the recent settlement.

449
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:12.480
So two point eight billion dollars in
damages to former college athletes and twenty

450
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:18.720
two percent of the average Power five
schools revenue is what the NCUBA is going

451
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:25.359
to have to pay to former athletes. So former athletes that are covered by

452
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:26.960
this settlement, if they choose to
opt in, which I don't know why

453
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.200
you wouldn't, you'd be able to
make money. It includes an estimated one

454
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:34.519
hundred of fourteen thousand and five hundred
Division one athletes. But here's what I

455
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:38.680
don't understand. If you are going
to opt in to get money from this

456
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:44.880
settlement as an NCAA athlete who couldn't
make money through NIL because of the archaic

457
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:48.599
amateurism model, you can only opt
in if you're somebody who played from June

458
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:56.920
fifteenth of twenty sixteen until November third
of twenty twenty three. So if you

459
00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:00.920
are a former player from previous eras
I mean, I don't again, I'm

460
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:04.839
sure maybe there's an easy answer to
that. But now that they've at least

461
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:11.440
admitted yeah with nil meaning name,
image, and likeness, we were ripping

462
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:14.680
you guys off, right, We
made a ton of I mean, the

463
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:18.240
NCE doublea's existence is really chalked up
to the amount of money, the amount

464
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:22.680
of revenue they generate from the NCAA
tournament. But still there's other events tied.

465
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:27.039
I mean, look, even if
even if you only want to look

466
00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:30.799
at it from a basketball perspective,
either way, the NC DOUBLEA at the

467
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.400
end of every year, they're profiting
money. They're making a lot of money.

468
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.920
So if you played sports that even
don't generate a lot of revenue,

469
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.279
just knowing that you did play a
sport in the company that governed that sport,

470
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:45.359
the NC DOUBLEA made a ton of
money and you got nothing. I

471
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:47.160
mean, I don't know if you're
gonna win in corps, but you may

472
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:48.000
have, you know, you may
have somebody that would take you know,

473
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:51.160
take you on and when you could
follow a lawsuit like these guys did.

474
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:56.400
So I just don't understand how you
can claim that you were being at Like

475
00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:02.319
again, like if you played in
nineteen ninety nine and you were a superstar

476
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:07.920
and you couldn't make any money because
of the again ancient archaic amateurism model that

477
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:12.880
they tried to stick with forever until
Congress got involved and forced their hand,

478
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:17.599
like, how would you not be
entitled to compensation? Like, I don't,

479
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:22.160
I don't understand why the time frame
there is athletes for because again,

480
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.599
these guys in nineteen eighty three,
you know, that was a very very

481
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:29.279
highly public I mean, anytime you
win a national championship year in the limelight,

482
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:32.720
you're getting a lot of attention.
But if you consider you know,

483
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:36.359
if you consider that team specifically,
I mean that was the late Jimmy v

484
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:41.400
Jim Volvano's team that was known as
the Cardiac Pack. They had a you

485
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.160
know, very close victories in the
n SUAA tournament that fifty four to fifty

486
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.720
two went over Houston on the you
know, on the final seconds. That's

487
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:53.160
still one of the most replayed you
know clips you'll see from previous NSTUABAA tournaments,

488
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:56.920
and we all know Valvano running on
the court. That became an iconic

489
00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:02.359
moment that you see oftentimes throughout the
in stub of a tournament. So I

490
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:07.200
mean, I feel like these guys
probably have a good chance of getting some

491
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:11.599
money. But even if you know, I think even before you get to

492
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:15.960
that point where there's either a settlement
or maybe they win or I just think

493
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:19.519
right now, when this starts to
really become talked about more so in the

494
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:23.599
news cycle, there's college athlete former
college athletes, I should say, sitting

495
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:27.160
around that probably don't have any money, or at least they're not, you

496
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:30.960
know, not living living a great
life. Maybe they're living check to check.

497
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:34.960
Maybe they're in poverty. I don't
know, because they went to school

498
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:38.920
and you know, they ended up
not having a great career after basketball or

499
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:41.519
football or whatever it is. Like, I just think there's going to be

500
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:45.440
a lot of people finding a lawyer
to try to sue because they want money

501
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.880
as well. And I don't know
why they would not be entitled to it

502
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:51.160
if in fact, others are going
to be entitled to it, Like,

503
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:53.880
it doesn't make a lot of sense
to me. Again, maybe there's a

504
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:59.640
specific reason, but I think a
can of worms was opened up here when

505
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:05.400
it comes to to this recent settlement
that again will allow schools and I should

506
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:08.359
stop saying the word allow, because
yeah, you don't have to you're allowed

507
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:12.920
to pay twenty two million and last
I checked, the twenty two million dollar

508
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.839
annual bill is not something anybody on
planet Earth will be looking forward to.

509
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:21.839
But if you choose not to pay
and pay as much as possible, meaning

510
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:23.200
as much as they let you in, as much as you can, as

511
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:27.559
far as the funds you you know
you have, you're gonna get left behind.

512
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:30.440
So they're not making anybody pay anybody
anything. But if you choose not

513
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:34.599
to, you might as well just
close your athletic department because you won't be

514
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:38.000
able to compete at a high level. It's just not I mean, it's

515
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:42.200
just not possible. All right,
quick break, we'll come back on the

516
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:45.480
other side if you are just now
joining us. I did start the show

517
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:49.559
with a an admission, probably something
I should have taken to the grave,

518
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:52.319
But sometimes I like to, you
know, really just open up on this

519
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:57.039
show and share things to get a
reacty. Not not to you know,

520
00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:00.000
not for shock value, but really
just because you know, I'm an insecure

521
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:05.160
human being and sometimes you guys can
you know, make me feel even more

522
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.519
insecure, or you can make me
feel like, hey, Nick, it's

523
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:09.640
not that bad. I use you
guys, really is like my therapists.

524
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:14.039
But I shared something I did earlier
today, and I'll save it for the

525
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.279
five o'clock hour when we get the
third hour started today, because had some

526
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:21.920
good responses Austin to my situation earlier
today. All right, minded people,

527
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:23.680
it's right, that's absolutely what it
is. So again, stick with us

528
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:25.839
right here. We got a lot
more to go. It's a Tuesday.

529
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:31.240
It's coffee and company feel but Thornton's
on Sports Talk seven ninety now back to

530
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:37.480
coffee and company fueled by Thornton's on
Sports Talk seven nine day. Who's this

531
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:42.759
some vibing? This is Gnna Gunna
Gunna? You ever heard of him?

532
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:45.400
I have not familiar, but I've
heard the name. Shout out Gunna,

533
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:49.759
Yeah, shout out gunn You Nna
right, Gunna. I don't know if

534
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.160
you've been hearing about all the the
rico stuff with him and Young Thug.

535
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:54.880
I don't know if you've seen some
of that. Now somebody was somebody was

536
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:58.559
getting a reco charge? Is it
Gunna? It was it was Gunna and

537
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:00.640
Young Thug. They condolence each other. Uh oh yeah, I think that

538
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:06.480
newsg is his His lawyer just got
sentenced for a contempt of court and it

539
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:09.719
has to spend like twenty days in
jailers. I did see that the Yeah,

540
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:14.360
so it's young thug or Gunn's lawyer. It's a young thug's lawyer.

541
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:16.960
Okay, so I did see that. He requested that the judge allow him

542
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:22.760
to serve his his jail sentence only
on weekends, because they do that for

543
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:24.079
people, by the way, who
aren't like, you know, you got

544
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:28.039
to do some time and you still
need to be you know, employed and

545
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:30.039
whatnot, so they just have you
come in. It's been the weekend there.

546
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:32.199
Yeah, I think he's getting like
ten weekends, and he requested that

547
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:37.119
it be with his client with him. Yeah, and you know their boys,

548
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:39.079
they're going to go, they're going
to discuss the next plans. Yeah,

549
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:42.679
i'd say moving forward, I'd say, somebody who you know, lives

550
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:45.119
their story straight, lives the life
of a criminal, and then you know,

551
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:50.360
parlays that into being very successful and
famous as a hip hop artist.

552
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:53.000
You know, not a surprise,
You're going to have a criminal attorney,

553
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:58.800
and your criminal attorney probably has a
much different background and lifestyle than you.

554
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.920
But over time, you connect your
bond and you become you become family.

555
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:05.719
Yeah, I mean that's that's it's
actually beautiful, beautiful thing. Why I

556
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:07.320
mean becomes slime. It's a beautiful
thing if you think about it. All

557
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:09.800
right, before we get to the
top of the hour, here shout out

558
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:13.880
to n C State. I just
mentioned that lawsuit that they filed from the

559
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:17.239
night the nineteen eighty three championship team. Ten of the players from that title

560
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:22.280
team has final lawsuit claiming, hey, you used art and you used our

561
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:23.880
name, image and likeness as well. We need to cut. So we'll

562
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:28.760
see if it's successful. But how
about the year NC State has had men's

563
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:35.000
Final four women's Final four College World
Series and their football team had nine wins

564
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:37.760
and finished in the top twenty five. I mean, that's that's It's not

565
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:40.480
the year at the Cardinal because that'll
never happen when it comes to what Louisville

566
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:44.559
was able to pull off many years
ago, which some are still of the

567
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:46.639
belief that that was a deal with
the devil. So ye're at the wolf

568
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:52.880
Pack. Yeah, here we go. This never gets old, by the

569
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:54.639
way, No, not at all. I can like I'm going back to

570
00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:59.559
you know, young Nick watching this
on TV, and it was it was

571
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:00.880
such a so yeah, shout out
to the Wolfpack. It's the year of

572
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:02.559
the wolf Pack. I don't know
if they're gonna win. I mean,

573
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:06.480
they haven't actually won any national championship
of those four, but hey, if

574
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:09.199
you're there College World Series top twenty
five at the end of the season,

575
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:12.880
final four in both men's and women's
basketball, you've had a good year.

576
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:16.039
But now they have to take on
this Kentucky team, which both Kentucky and

577
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:22.559
in C State have not taken a
loss in postseason play yet, so should

578
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:24.280
be should be a good matchup there, all right. So something else I

579
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:28.719
wanted to mention really quickly here just
because I found this to be rather interesting.

580
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:34.920
It's also not surprising but interesting.
Our buddy Zack Barnett, a football

581
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.639
scoop who is our He doesn't know
it, and I guess he does know

582
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:38.679
it, but I'm sure he doesn't
take a lot of pride. And he

583
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:44.320
is our official college football corresponding here, our college football insider, mister Zack

584
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:46.360
Barnett, who joins us throughout the
football season and here and there, which

585
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:49.480
in fact, I think I'm going
to have him on tomorrow. But anyways,

586
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:52.360
he puts something out there at football
Scoop that again, when you consider

587
00:36:52.440 --> 00:37:00.320
the changing landscape with the portal and
anil like, nobody sticks around very long

588
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:05.440
anywhere, especially at the quarterback position
in college football. But right now he

589
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.239
put together, he put together some
research, and right now, meaning going

590
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:13.760
into the twenty twenty four season,
there are not many programs across college football

591
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:20.679
that return these four things. I
guess it's these five things. Head coach,

592
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:27.679
offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, special
teams coach, and a multi year

593
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:30.800
starting quarterback. I mean that used
to be pretty normal, right It wasn't

594
00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:37.400
a surprise or a shock to anyone
that you brought back every coordinator and your

595
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:43.760
head coach and your quarterback is returning
after being a starter for you know,

596
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:50.000
multiple years. So right now in
the ACC, only five of the fifteen

597
00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:55.519
teams return those things Clemson, SMU, Stanford, Virginia and Virginia Tech.

598
00:37:57.159 --> 00:38:05.000
And maybe the biggest turnover is the
coaches. Maybe they get another opportunity,

599
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:07.639
maybe they get a head coaching job. But I feel like quarterbacks, man,

600
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:10.440
Like, right now, Louisville's got
a twenty six year old quarterback,

601
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.159
Tyler Schuck, who's been out of
high school for a long time. Now,

602
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:20.920
he's played it or again He's played
at Texas Tech, so he's played

603
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:22.920
a lot, he's experienced, but
he's never played here. So like it's

604
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:25.559
you know, it's not as if
everybody's got a bunch of rookies, but

605
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:30.239
as far as like overall continuity,
meaning your quarterback that's in play has been

606
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:34.880
there, he's led to your program
for two years at minimum, and you

607
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:37.360
have your whole staff back. Like
again, that used to be really normal.

608
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:40.199
Now it's not. The Big Ten
only has three schools of the eighteen

609
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:44.880
that can claim they're bringing back that
type of continuity. Illinois, Nebraskan,

610
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:51.840
Purdue, the sec four of the
sixteen, Florida, Georgia, Ole,

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Miss and Texas. So, I
mean, I don't know what to make

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of that, but I would imagine
that, you know, it could be

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wrong, but a lot of these
schools that I'm looking at, they're not

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very good, you know what I
mean. Like, I feel like Illinois

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is probably in that position because they
haven't been good enough to I mean,

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they haven't lost an assistant coach that's
a coordinator to another job, because they

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probably haven't done enough to warrant a
real look as far as getting an opportunity

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to be a head coach and you
know, at quarterback, I'd say,

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if your results are pretty mid and
you know, you don't feel like there's

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competition for your job, like you
know, I just I wouldn't be shocked

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that if in five years time,
maybe maybe not even that long, maybe

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three years time, you look back
at the you know, you look,

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you look back at this criteria,
and I would be willing to bet that

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a lot of the schools that are
still checking that box are probably not ones

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that are that good. I mean, last year, I believe it was

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more than half, maybe closer to
three fourths of the acc their quarterbacks were

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guys who started at a different school. So it looks like even at the

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f even if I'm not the FCS, but the even at the G five

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level, there's actually even less schools
that can claim they have that type of

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continuity. And again that's unfortunate for
them because those guys are leaving, probably

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because they got a better head coaching
job, or they're quarterbacks leaving because they're

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stepping up a level and leaving G
five to go to the Power four.

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Just thought that was interesting. All
right, quick break, we'll come back

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finish strong here our third hour,
the five o'clock hours. Coming up next,

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