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Where are we at in society today? Come after me. I'm a man,

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I'm forty. Go ahead, make
my day every single week. I

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put my freaking heart and soul into
this. I don't go out there and

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laugh. It's not funny. Nothing's
funny to me. I don't wanna go

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out there and get embarrassed on Monday
night football fun everybody. I think that

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at the beginning of a beautiful friendship. So I ain't nothing changed from yesterday.

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Still the same person I was yesterday, and I got the same thing

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for you that I had yesterday.
You know why I'm here. You play

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to win the game. You don't
play to just play it. That's a

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great thing about sports. You play
to win. I don't care if you

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don't have any wins. You go
play to win. When you start telling

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me it doesn't matter to retire,
get out for the math. That is

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right. Good morning, everybody.
Dennis Fifthian in for Matt Shepherd. On

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this Friday, This Friday, heading
into the holiday weekend, heading into the

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Memorial weekend, Friday, May the
twenty fourth, allys Fridays. Like a

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lot of people, it's my favorite
day of the week, and heading into

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a holiday weekend where you know,
I know, I would guess if you're

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listening right now, you probably are
heading to work. Did you get up

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and head out to the lake you
go fishing heading into the Memorial weekend because

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you're off, maybe, but the
most people getting the Monday off and it

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just just feels good. It makes
you think about you know, some of

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the I don't know which countries do
it, but you know they say,

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you know you only work forget the
five day work week, four days.

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Everybody's neither their head, Yeah,
four days. People driving right now listening

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saying the five days I worked seven
days. So we're going to keep your

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company, get you into this weekend. You're a sports fan, you know.

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Last night rang the Bell and Memorial
Weekend with a little bit of stuff

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for everyone. If I'm thinking about
what is very top of mind for me

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and I'm thinking for you. It
was the Lions and Dan Campbell who talked

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at OTAs yesterday and he was asked
to question, it's the question of the

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day. I'll be answering it myself
an hour from right now at seven to

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one. Of course, you could
jump in and answer it is it super

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Bowl or bust? For the Detroit
Lions this upcoming season. Dan Campbell interrupted,

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I mean he answered the question,
but he interrupted the question saying he

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doesn't see bust, he sees Super
Bowl. It was a fine way to

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answer the question. I think about
this time last year, I was asking

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this question with Michigan, with the
Michigan football team, was it national championship

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or bust? And Michigan fans agreed
that it was championship or bust. Now

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college and pro, there's some obvious
differences with Michigan. Certainly, they had

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been to the two previous college football
Playoffs and it took him a while to

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you know, they had the long
streak where they couldn't beat Ohio State.

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They had to deal with all the
jokes that they hadn't won the Big Ten

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since they moved the since they had
a championship game and it was in India,

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they had to deal with, hey, you know where Indianapolis is at.

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But so they were able to do
that, slay that dragon, but

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they lost the TCU in the College
Football Playoff. The first year they lost

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to Georgia, I think got people
know it was a pretty good Georgia team,

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great Georgia team, but Michigan was
favored to be TCU. That was

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a chance to get to the national
title game, and they say they blew

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it, didn't do it. So
coming back when they had JJ McCarthy and

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Blake korm you go down the list
of all the they were set, they

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were ready. They had ten players
out of the transfer portal, and it

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felt like if it wasn't going to
belast year at the Ohouse, State game

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was at home, they had another
super easy non conference schedule. If it

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wasn't going to be last year for
Michigan, there was a question of,

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well, is it ever gonna happen
or certainly now you know, I didn't

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feel like with this group, although
JJ could have come back for his senior

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season, so you could have made
that argument, and some people did,

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but the other guys, you just
it was it was National Championship or bust

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last year for Michigan, But so
is it Super Bowl or bust for the

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Lions. Dan Campbell doesn't see bust. He sees Super Bowl. As he

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was standing up at the podium with
his grit hat on, we'll get into

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that. Pistons have a new man
at the top calling the shots, Trajan

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Langdon the Alaskan Assassin for those of
you that can go back and remember when

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he played at Due. Not many
ballplayers coming out of Alaska, but Langdon

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did, and he went to Duke
and then you know, a couple of

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years in the pros, then overseas
and then you know, getting involved on

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the front office side of things.
He'd been down to New Orleans. But

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he is going to be the next
president of basketball operations. But what he

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is going to be is the guy
with the final say and personnel decisions,

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and that's the top job. And
so this is going to be the guy

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that will either you know, Troy
Weaver has been calling the shots for the

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past few years. It will be
Langdon now for the next few seasons,

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and we'll see what he will do. I'll I'll give you a couple ideas,

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you know, for the you know, you think about if you're a

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Pistons fan coming off a season where
he only won fourteen games and the bitter

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disappointment in almost every area for the
team, and you look to this season.

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In the draft, there was there
was nothing. It was it's called

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you know, one of the worst
I get the worst draft ever. And

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you know, obviously they didn't win
it, and they you know, fell

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to five. So not only was
it a terrible draft, but you wouldn't

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have minded it wouldn't have uh have
minded grabbing that number one pick. But

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they fall to five, which you
know, felt like another loss for this

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team. So now they sit here, there's not great prospects. But oh

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if if you sometimes you find that
Brad Holmes was coming in, it was

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a for the Lions. Honestly,
that felt like a rinse and repeat type

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situation. I've seen a lot of
general managers over the years come in for

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Detroit and the fans, and that's
what you do. You're like, yeah,

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we got a new guy. Let's
put our you know, full faith

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behind him. Maybe this will be
the guy. Oh, Bob Quinn,

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you know he's the guy. And
he was not the guy obviously, Bob

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Quinn. It did not work out, but Holmes I was. So you

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know, there's when you get somebody
new like that, there is at least

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with the change part, you feel
like, you know, maybe a chance

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we'll ship through what his most important
moves are, at least that we see

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on the surface. That talked about
yesterday that these teams you look at the

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four teams that are remaining in the
playoffs, and you you look at their

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roster, you look at their front
office, you look at how they have

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been able to get where they're at
and has it just been sitting back and

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getting lucky. In some cases it
is Minnesota of the year that they get

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the number one pick. The last
time, I mean a couple of years

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before they got kat Karl Anthony Towns
and that didn't look like it was really

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gonna be all of that. But
you know, they get the ant man

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Anthony Edwards, and that was lucky, but they did have to take him.

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There was it wasn't a slam dunk. There were a lot of people

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saying, hey, take LaMelo Ball
in that draft, and they didn't.

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So that was part of it.
But we'll get into a little bit of

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that actually straight ahead, and we'll
cover what happened last night on the ice

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and the hardwood in the playoffs.
We had the Tigers in action as well.

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So I feel like a lot of
balls in the air this Holiday Friday

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with all of that that I just
mentioned, we'll tackle it all. We'll

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dive into it straight ahead. It's
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Is it super Bowl or bus for
the Detroit Lions? That was the

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question posed to Lions head coach Dan
Campbell after OTA's yesterday. He says he

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doesn't seek bust. He's the super
Bowl. What about you? As it

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super Bowl our bust? I'm answering
that question at seven oh one. Good

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morning, Dennis Fithian Here, Axes
and Bros. And the Michigan Sports Network.

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I'm gonna run through what happened last
night in sports. I got a

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bone to pick with the ESPN.
They it's nice today after Dan Campbell spoke

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yesterday. Now they they pick a
team Sports Center does and they picked popular

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teams a lot of times. Right
now the Lions are are are a popular

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team obviously, and Campbell spoke yesterday, so they're talking a lot about the

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Lions. But they put up a
graph and you know, it has the

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Lions win total at ten and a
half and then at the bottom and then

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it says they've got eleven and one
odds to win the Super Bowl. And

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at the bottom of that it says
the best title odds in forty five years,

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which is a little bit of an
attention grabber. You're like, wow,

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because the Lions said, oh you
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they had one, they had won
one playoff games. It's fifty seven.

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We knew all of these numbers.
They're ingrained in our brain. It

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is a relief last year when they
won one, not only two. I

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mean, you know the whole story
there. But so when I saw the

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forty five years, I was thinking, you know, that's interesting. If

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somebody asked me one with this is
the best title odds since when, I

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think I would have said nineteen fifty
seven. I don't know even know if

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they had odds back at nineteen fifty
seven. I thought about the same thing

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they have odds forty five years ago, but they do because I see them.

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They often talk about the Jets and
Joe nama Is guarantee, and you

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know what sort of underdog the Jets
were, or they were their double digit

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underdog, and that's what made the
guarantee by Joe Namas so famous. So

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I get that part. But then
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a young, very young kid in
at nineteen seventy nine, and I would

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have I was a Lions fan.
But so I'm thinking with the Lions.

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Was I thinking about the Super Bowl
back in the late seventies for the Lions.

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Absolutely not. Now, the Lions
went two and fourteen in nineteen seventy

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nine, you'd say, well,
you know, it's seventy eight. They

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must have had a hell of a
season to have the the best odds until

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twenty twenty three. Well, no, they went They went seven to nine

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in seventy eight, seventy seven,
they went six in eight the whole seventies.

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I'm sorry. In nineteen seventy either
the Lions beat the Cowboys like five

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nothing or I'm sorry they lost to
the Cowboys of five nothing in the playoffs

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and so if it would have said
seventy one, that said coming off a

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playoff appearance, all right, But
the rest of the seventies it was nothing.

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But you know, seven wins,
six wins the seventy nineteen, which

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is interesting because it was two and
fourteen. It was a famous song that

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made its way around the Motor City
after that by by Spider Man. Allen

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to the song by Queen as Spider
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seat something. I'm trying to remember
the lyrics there, Spider Man sitting on

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his seat. But the line was
last year was two and fourteen, but

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this is the year for New Orleans. Now that rhymed when Spider Man said,

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it didn't seem like a really rhyme
to roll off the tongue there for

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me when I was rolling it out. Maybe it's just because it's early in

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the morning, but I don't know, I have I'm sending that off to

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ESPN. I'm questioning their odds.
Now, if they would have said the

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Lions in a ninety one, you
know they lost the conference finals, or

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when they lost actually, you know, the winning against the Cowboys. Remember

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when they got that one playoff win
for the first time. So it's fifty

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seven. A lot of people thought
and it was the next for the foreseeable

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future, it was going to be
the Lions and the Cowboys. This is

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it. Look at the young talent
on these teams. Well they were kind

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of right. The Cowboys would go
on and we win three Super Bowls,

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but not the Lions. So I
could have seen if they were saying that

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in ninety four ninety five that there
was there was something there for Detroit ninety

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two. I guess that's I think, the best Super Bowl odds, But

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you know, so I'm questioning it. That's what I have to say for

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ESPN best title odds in forty five
years. I know there were less teams

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and everything else, but it just
didn't make sense to me as my mind

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works through it all right. Last
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two in the NBA in the Eastern
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Boston had won. That had bugaboo, one of those things in Game two's

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where they were losing no matter who
they were playing in the heat, and

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you just go through it. And
so Indiana, after the way they played

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played in Game one and threw Game
one away and only had themselves to blame,

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and thinking, well, however you
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felt pretty good about their chances to
steal the game. But you know,

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Boston with a twenty zero round of
the first half, it looked like it

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was going to be over as I
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up to halftime. The Pacers Pascal
Siakam, they got it down to a

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half dozen. It was a six
point game at the half, but then

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in the third quarter it was mostly
Boston, but the Pacers did inch within

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a bucket there the third but Tyrese
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it. And that is going to
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Halliburton and his hamstring and his availability
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question and the series. Of course, if Halliburton, they might lose anyways

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and might get swept anyways. But
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that that would be a likely scenario. OH one twenty six, one ten

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the final sixteen point victory for the
Celtics. They're up to to oh On

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the other side, it will be
a game two. MAVs te Wolves Tonight

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eight thirty in Minnesota on the ice, you had Dallas and Edmonton first game

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of the Western Finals. Nobody listening
right now stayed up to watch the end

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of that one, although it was
riveting. I watched the highlights today and

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it ends up going Edmonton's way,
three to two, double overtime. But

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that's a hell of a game.
With Edmonton now sitting here, they've got

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so much firepower, but they've had
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being helped by a subtimely goaltending now
and another edition of a local product,

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Zach Hyman, who they signed as
a free agent, who leads the NHL

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Playoffs with the twelve goals. Hymen
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I mean if I asked you to
say, hey, who are the

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three players that scored the goals for
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Hymen, probably Dry Title, and
probably Connor McDavid, And you would be

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right on all of that. McDavid, with thirty two seconds into the double

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overtime scores he's about on the door
step, right in the slot. When

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Bouchard has been excellent for Edmonton,
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corner. He throws the puck right
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That's going to be a scary proposition
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he just he shoveled it the passed
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winner for Edmonton. They're up one
to zero. Two posts for the Stars

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in overtime. And if you're looking
for a key, how about five for

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five of the penalty kill there for
the Edmonton Oilers in game one tonight Game

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two of the Eastern Finals. Rangers
they got shut out in Game one eight

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o'clock face off at Madison Square Garden
and the Florida Panthers. They're going to

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take a two to zero lead there. You're up to speed there. The

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Pistons have a new guy calling the
shots and we will go over what the

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first order of business will be for
Trajan Langdon, your new president of basketball

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operations for the Detroit Pistons. Straight
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in this state is just getting started. At six thirty five, headed to

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this Memorial weekend, Dennismithian in for
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have just learned something. You know. We have the ability for you to

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of course call in on the Meyer
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for you to participate the via the
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show that I've been filling in.
And I say, hey, text sports

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radio to twenty one thousand. Well, the last time I was in I

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just tested it out myself and I
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hey, what's up Ben? You
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And then Ben didn't say anything to
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maybe Bench just you know, he's
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friendly via the text or with me. You know, I said it was

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me. You didn't say anything.
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twenty one thousand, sports radio is
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I tried it twice, it automatically
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in there. Sports radio one word
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in that way, and hey,
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your attacks. You just have to
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so try it out. That is
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and that just happened over the last
five minutes. Now the question of

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the day, and we're going to
dive into it head first. Coming up

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at seven to one. I'll answer
the question. It's about the Lions where

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Dan Campbell yesterday was asked by the
assembled media whoever it was, Hey Dan,

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do you see this year as super
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five coffees in him, a couple
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coffees and the hat with grit on
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he doesn't see bust, he sees
super Bowl, which is a very nice

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answer by Dan Campbell. But we
want your answer and I'll give you a

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myrie coming up at seven one.
But there is some news with the Detroit

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Pistons. Yes, they are still
organization. They do plan on playing the

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upcoming season. They do own the
number five pick and the twenty twenty four

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upcoming NBA draft. As we all
know, they finished with the worst record,

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but it fell to five, which
felt very Pistons like with how things

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are going. But the Pistons hired
a new guy, a new leader,

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Trajan Langdon comes in for the Pistons. According to reports, they are set

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to hire Trajan Langdon as president of
basketball Operations. Now I am going to

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work through what I think his first
order of business is now, you might

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ask, and I asked this question
myself when I saw that they were hiring

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Langdon as president of basketball operations and
that he had been the Pelicans general manager

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since twenty nineteen, I thought,
why would the general manager of the Pelicans

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want to leave their situation and come
to Detroit? And that's a good question,

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patting myself on the back. Good
question. Well, Langdon was the

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general manager, but he did not
have final say in personnel decisions. That

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was David Griffin, who was the
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I don't know exactly what his title
was with the Calves, but that's in

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New Orleans. He was the one, which was a pretty easy decision,

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drafting Zion Williamson. And that's why
you want to be the guy that's calling

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the shots. And Langdon is going
to do that and we say, well,

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is this a good hire. I'm
not sure if it's a good higher.

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The Pistons are in a real tough
spot with the roster that they have

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in you know, last year at
this time I looked at it and said,

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yeah, I know, they got
a young roster and you just want

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to take incremental steps and prepare yourself
and try to surround Kate Cunningham with some

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good players. And it's not like
they were hit with injuries or anything.

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Last year. They had their starting
five what you would say, not a

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bad starting five, maybe not a
playoff team, but a team that you

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know, you thought they might have
something going for them, but no,

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they didn't. They they don't play
well. They didn't play defense at all,

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they didn't shoot really well. And
you know, in their their head

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coach didn't see particularly interested in in
coaching, which is going to be a

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pretty big deal when you know you're
sitting there on the sideline and you're Monte

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Williams, who the Pistons brought in
last year to be their head coach and

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they gave him seventy six million dollars. Now, this is the first order

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of business for Langdon. I think
that if you're listening right now. And

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I said that to you, you'd
say, what do you think is first

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order of businesses? You'd say,
fire Troy Weaver and then fire Bonnie Williams.

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Broom. These guys out start fresh
that way. And I agree with

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that. I don't know how Troy
Weaver is staying around he is out.

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I would I will put all of
the money I have on Weaver being out

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now. No, Williams is interesting. You know, it's not a cap

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situation. The Piston's just oh,
Monty Williams sixty million dollars more after you

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know, the the six year,
seventy six million dollar deal. And he

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could say, that's a hell of
a lot of money to you eat if

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you're Tom Gorris, although a report
in the Athletics says that if Langdon wants

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to move on, that Gorris will
eat that money if Langdon decides to make

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a coaching change. So I don't
think that Langdon is flying up to Detroit

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thinking the money's gone automatically. I
think he's going to have an open eye.

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Would I would think that he would
have an open mind. I would

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meet with money Williams. There's the
perception if Langdon was asking me, what's

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up with you? What do you
think of money Williams. I would say,

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it looks like he just took the
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seventy six million dollars. He even
said something to that effect when he was

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hired and he had fired by Phoenix. It felt like, you know,

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after all of this, that he
was just perfectly content to live his life

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as a multi millionaire and chill.
But the Pistons said, hey, how

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about seventy six million guaranteed? Who
say a no to that? Basically what

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money Williams said. But then he
coached like he had all the security of

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the world and not a care in
the world about winning basketball games. And

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you can't have that as a head
coach. You need somebody driven. You

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need someone despite you know, making
seventy six million, that he is just

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grind it. It's everything consumed with
being a head coach and moving this thing

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forward. And Monty Williams did not
seem like he had any of that,

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any drive. He was reluctant to
make lineup changes. He stayed with Killian

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Hayes for some reason. What every
single person that I've ever spoken with or

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talked to that watched the Pistons and
said, I don't know why Ice,

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you know, playing Killian Hayes like
he is. And and then finally,

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you know, he finally made some
moves at the trading deadline. Move some

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guys out, move some guys in. But it's totally unspectacular, terrible as

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a matter of fact, that's the
way it looks. That's what I would

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tell Langdon. Langdon's gonna sit down
and he's got to look to the other

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side of the table and say,
money, tell me why you want to

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stay here and coach this team.
And he needs I would need an impassion

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plea from many about what went wrong
last year and how he just can't wait

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to get out there and turn the
narrative around that he's just sitting there and

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collecting a check. Maybe he's ready
to do that. Maybe he's ready to

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Maybe he's already reached out to Langdon
and said, I can't wait to get

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the work. Let's do it.
Whatever it is, it better be a

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hell of a sales job from Williams. Now have he said everything that I

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just said. I could easily just
see him just sitting back. Bonnie Williams

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and be like, you want to
go ahead, I'll get this retirement underway.

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I'll take I made the sixteen million
last year. I'll take a sixty

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million dollar check and I'll walk A
lot of us listening right now think about,

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Hey, you don't have to fly
around, you have to be at

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the pistons next year or the next
five years. You can just take your

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check, fold it up, put
it in your back pocket, and fly

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wherever you want for the rest of
your life and your entire family as well.

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So that is going to be the
first order of business. Now,

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if I had to predict, it's
tough. I don't know much about Langdon

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as a player at Duke, and
that if you're worth anything as a competitor,

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you are going to sell that as
I want to be on the sideline

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and I want to get this thing
going. And you know, you know,

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he doesn't need to throw Troy Weaver
under the whatever. She used to

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go out there and says, you
know, he wants to here's his ideas

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and he could sell it. But
so I think he's going to get an

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opportunity to continue coaching. Now.
I do think if I was somebody that

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was an NBA writer certainly a Pistons
writer. And I was in the off

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season and the editor said, you
know, we're gonna need some content.

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I would sit down. One of
the first things that I would write was

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Coaches on the hot Seat for twenty
twenty four. Monny Williams's name is going

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to be right at the top,
and next to it, it's going to

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be training at Langdon is the new
basketball president of basketball Operations. He's not

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standing for any thing like last year, and then he'll be gone. And

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I don't think that he will be
the head coach at this time next year,

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but I do think he'll be the
coach at the start of the year.

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So those are the two orders of
business for Langdon Waiver. I can't

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see how he stays around, but
I do think Money Williams will come back,

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even though the Pistons are open to
taking these sixty million dollars and flushing

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it down the toilet. You look
at the Pistons and you're training Langdon and

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you're flying in, you say,
all right, what do I got?

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You got Kate Cuttingham. That's the
first thing you already thought that Kate Cuttingham

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could have been last year saying get
me out of Dodge. It's the first

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call I'm going to make if I'm
trading Langdon saying hey, Cad, these

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are my ideas, this is what
I'm going to do. Everything should be

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00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:07.480
about can we get Kate Cuttingham to
stick this out for give us a chance

407
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:15.880
this year. Kate Cunningham said all
the right things last year about people were

408
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:16.519
like, hey, you went out
of Dodge and he's like, no,

409
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:21.760
I don't. I'm in. He
has said he's been all in. That's

410
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:25.400
a credit to Kate Cuttingham. Most
NBA players in his spot just be like,

411
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:34.360
get me out of here. Other
than that, Jaden Ivy, last

412
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:40.719
year's first round pick, User Thompson, you know he's a development piece.

413
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:49.519
Jalen Duran's nights. It's like these
guys are Thompson a beef stew and Jalen

414
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:54.119
Duran. I think those three starters, those three guys, it would be

415
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:58.599
if you're talking about a playoff team. You'd like to see those guys coming

416
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:02.679
off the bench, and you know, having some guys that could score and

417
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:07.360
shoot in their place is individually they're
not all that bad. Like I said,

418
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:13.960
Thompson, you expect a lot more
from him and in the development side.

419
00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:16.840
You know, the beef do is
just like he's okay, and he

420
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:22.559
would be best unless you have four
tremendous players around him. He would be

421
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:24.920
best coming off the bench. And
I would say the same thing about Durreat.

422
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:30.599
So really it's it's cutting Ham and
Ivy. Pistons do have sixty two

423
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:37.320
million and cap space, But you
look at the free agents. Is Spicy

424
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:44.159
p really going to take, you
know, some max offer from the Pistons.

425
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:47.920
Pascal Siakam, he's there in Indiana
right now, He's going to be

426
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:52.239
a free agent. The way he's
playing, he's going to command the top

427
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:54.760
dollar. Is he going to look
to the Pistons and say, yeah,

428
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.599
it's a quandary when you're talking about
the very free agents. If the Pistons,

429
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:05.840
you know, would offer a max
deal because they would only be coming

430
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:09.039
for the money, but hey,
you've got it, you're at least going

431
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:15.920
to offer it up, at least
to him. Demark DeRozan is also a

432
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:19.559
free agent. He would also be
another one. These are the top two

433
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:23.519
targets I would think for Langdon.
Other than that, you know, I've

434
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:28.039
seen the name Tobias Harris. I
think he played for the Pistons. Maybe

435
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:34.079
that's why, But I haven't really
felt Tobias Harris since he played for the

436
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:38.719
Pistons. Was he was a disappointment
in Philadelphia overall. So you're gonna pay

437
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:43.800
him a boatload of money. I
would be hesitant to do that if I

438
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:47.199
was Langham. So if you can't
get Siakham or DeRozan, you're gonna have

439
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:51.559
to piece some things together and then
you're gonna have to show us what you're

440
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:58.280
made of that way. So good
luck to Trajan Langdon who has that order

441
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:01.800
of business straight ahead. You want
to dial in on any of that you

442
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:07.239
had the playoffs from last night.
Boston goes up two to ozh at Minton

443
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:15.199
a double overtime. Connor McDavid scores
thirty two seconds into the double overtime session

444
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:20.840
and Edmonton takes a one ozero series
lead. They won three to two last

445
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:27.000
night. And we've got Panthers and
Rangers and maps Tea Wolves coming up tonight.

446
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:31.119
Oh yeah, the Tigers. Tigers
played last night and they lost their

447
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:39.039
fifth in a row. They are
four games under five hundred and they get

448
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:51.639
beat up nine to one. I
listened and watched the game, and it

449
00:39:51.880 --> 00:40:02.039
wasn't encouraging. Tigers are now ten
games back in the Al Central to the

450
00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:08.039
Guardians, and the Royals are only
a game and a half back. The

451
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:15.239
Twinkies six and a half games back
of the Guardians, but low scoring early.

452
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:19.119
Jack Flaherty on the mound for the
Tigers gave up seven hits, three

453
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:22.280
runs. He worked into the seventh
inning, so not so bad. But

454
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:30.440
then Vladimir Guerrero Junior. The bullpen, which when we were sitting here,

455
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:34.800
certainly two weeks ago, you talked
about, I talked about. You knew

456
00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:38.079
it, Oh man, this bullpen, this starting pitching for the Tigers,

457
00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:45.159
and you know now that has gone
sideways. And the offense which perked up

458
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:47.599
here and there you thought, oh
hey, now the hitting's going the pitching's

459
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:53.199
going south. You know, now
both of them are ore south and that's

460
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:58.079
not a combination that's going to make
anybody excited. The story of the game.

461
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:00.239
However, as I was a dry
around, I was listening to the

462
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:07.159
radio broadcast. Dan Dickerson is working
with the former Tiger Andy Dirks in the

463
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:10.480
broadcast booth, and Dickerson's like,
I don't know if that was a splitter

464
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:14.000
or not. I don't know if
that was a slider. We don't have

465
00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:20.480
our our television booth. We have
had a power outage here at Comerica and

466
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:25.000
okay, Dan, I got ya. But then I tuned into the game

467
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:32.320
and Jason Beniti it was two seconds
ahead of the television copy. The audio

468
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:37.400
was done, I think over his
cell phone. It was the worst sounding

469
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:40.679
and the worst presentation. Not their
fault. I don't know though. Whatever

470
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:45.280
the power outage was, he couldn't
get it going. But it lasted so

471
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:49.599
long, and the jokes, you
know, the power outage. We're a

472
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:58.159
parent for this for this Tiger team
and just yea terrible all around situation for

473
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:01.159
the crew there. The tree had
to make the best out of it that

474
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:06.440
they could. But in the end, when you lose five in a row

475
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:10.719
and you get the broadcast like that, just they thumbs down all over,

476
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.719
thumbs up on the Lions, though, super Bowl or bust. We're gonna

477
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:22.559
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478
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It is Lions front and center,
and the question to you is a Super

506
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Bowl or bus this season for the
Lions? That was the question posed to

507
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:35.480
Detroit Lions head coach yesterday, Dan
Campbell. He says he doesn't see bust,

508
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:40.280
he sees super Bowl. What about
you? What about you sports fans?

509
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:44.360
When it comes to the Lions,
do you consider it a Super Bowl

510
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:52.239
or bus type situation? Now,
joining us is easy. You dial in

511
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eight forty three. That's the Meyer hotline.

512
00:45:57.519 --> 00:46:04.400
Eight six six eight three eight forty
eight forty three. I'd love to

513
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:07.239
hear from a first timer. Heck, since I've only done a few shows,

514
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:09.800
everybody that calls for me is a
first timer, So I would like

515
00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:15.840
to hear from you. You also
have the ability to text us and get

516
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:21.800
your thoughts in that way. You
text Sports Radio one word to twenty one

517
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:25.039
thousand, and then you get a
prompt and then you text it and we

518
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:29.239
read those texts over the air,
and it's a lot of fun. It

519
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:32.760
feels good, and you put your
name next to it, and then you

520
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:42.559
know that's cool. I the previous
few shows had run into an issue because

521
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:47.239
I was trying to say hi to
ben Zos, who is the producer on

522
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:53.079
the Variable Resistors, and I text
Sports Radio a few times to twenty one

523
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:57.159
thousand and I was like, hey, Ben, and I never said anything,

524
00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:00.079
and I thought, wow, well, you know he's not responding to

525
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:04.880
just a little high bend. So
I did it a couple times. I

526
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:08.760
didn't think anything about it, but
I was putting a space between sports radio

527
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:14.400
sports radio all one word. Now, it might take a little bit of

528
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:21.400
work because when I tried it the
first time, it automatically put a space

529
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:24.360
in there. So but once you
get it down, you do get that

530
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:30.039
prompt and you can participate that way. So that's it with the Lions.

531
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:34.119
Is it super Bowl or bust?
I'm going to answer that question to myself.

532
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:37.880
Tigers lose last night. They've lost
five in a row, nine to

533
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:43.800
one. The Jay's pound them elsewhere
in the playoffs. Dallas takes a one

534
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:49.079
zero lead in the Western Finals.
They get a Connor McDavid goal in double

535
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:54.400
overtime. Maybeat Dallas three to two. The Boston Celtics go up two oh

536
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:59.679
in the Eastern Conference Final. They
went by sixteen at the Garden last night.

537
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:05.320
Halliburton from the Pacers pulls a hammy
and leaves in the third quarter in

538
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:14.119
a big question mark next to Halliburton's
status for Game three obviously something to monitor.

539
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:17.280
We've got Panthers Rangers, Game two
tonight, Game two, MAVs t.

540
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:27.119
Wolves, all of that out there. Pistons hiring Trajan Langdon as president

541
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:30.639
of Basketball ops and he'll be calling
the shots. Talked last hour about what

542
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:35.280
he needs to do in the first
order of business when it comes down to

543
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:44.800
it. Now, the Lions made
the NFC Championship Game last year and the

544
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:59.519
town, the state is on fire. Everyone has Lions fever and the only

545
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:06.840
prescript sit is a super Bowl to
get it done. And so, yeah,

546
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:09.280
the first thing you want to say
is yes, and is super Bowl

547
00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:17.880
or bus for this team? And
the super Bowl for this team is achievable,

548
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:25.920
but it doesn't necessarily have to be
this upcoming season. Now, it

549
00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:34.440
would be great, you know,
for years it was suggested it would be

550
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:39.920
talked about I couldn't handle it talking
about the Lions and the super Bowl,

551
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:49.840
that these two things didn't fit and
it didn't matter. People would still say,

552
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:52.199
could you just imagine what it would
be like if the Lions won the

553
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:55.360
Super Bowl? A? Yeah,
can you imagine if I won the lot

554
00:49:55.519 --> 00:50:00.079
You know, like, sure,
yeah, it would be great, but

555
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:07.599
we just we had the experience last
year of somewhat of what it would be

556
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:12.800
like, and everybody for years to
say, oh, it pale in comparison

557
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:15.800
to the Wings and the Pistols.
If the Alliance wanted just the way everybody

558
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:22.039
would go and the way everybody would
act. And then I always thought that,

559
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:25.800
you know, dealing with Detroit sports
fans, that Detroit sports fans would

560
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:30.719
be. They'd be all upset if
they made the Super Bowl, about the

561
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:36.840
national media not giving them credit,
talking about the other teams, somebody taking

562
00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:40.239
a shot at Detroit City, all
those things that you know that happened over

563
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:44.440
the years, and it wouldn't be
about actual alliance. I couldn't have been

564
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:50.559
more wrong about that last year.
During their run, they were the darling

565
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:54.960
of the NFL, and they deserved
all of the credit that they were getting.

566
00:50:55.920 --> 00:51:07.159
They have put together and an incredible
team built inside out, with their

567
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:14.119
calling card being a tremendous offensive line. But they can get you through the

568
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:20.280
air, they can do it on
the ground, and now thinking about where

569
00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:23.559
they needed to improve, they've popped
the hood on the defense and they've gone

570
00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:29.960
to work there. So you should
feel great about the chance. But the

571
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:38.239
run last year it was. It
was better than I even thought that I

572
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:43.199
could have imagined. And I heard
everybody talk about how great it was going

573
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:46.239
to be. But the win over
the Rams was the most incredible game that

574
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:50.880
I've ever seen from the Lions,
most exciting, most intense, and the

575
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:54.119
greatest in Lion's history, at least
in my lifetime. And they followed it

576
00:51:54.239 --> 00:52:01.920
up with another win, and then
at halftime I do remember saying and even

577
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:06.519
tweeting out, the Lions look super, but they've got one half to go,

578
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:12.079
and we know what happened there.
But the Lions have a window.

579
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:19.880
But this this doesn't sound as nice. The Lions have a shot, I

580
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:25.000
would think in three years to get
this done. So it's a is it

581
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:32.800
a three year or bus type proposition? That sounds a little bit. I

582
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:37.760
don't know if it sounds a vanilla
easy cop out, lazy whatever he could

583
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:44.159
say there put the pressure on him
for this year. I do think,

584
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:49.400
though, you know, we come
up with a different scenarios. Let's just

585
00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:53.599
have a scenario. I think that
the Lions will win eleven games this year.

586
00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:55.880
They're over and under his ten and
a half. I think they're going

587
00:52:55.920 --> 00:53:00.639
over. I think that they're gonna
win the North. I think they're gonna

588
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:05.039
win a playoff game. I think
that they'll get to the NFC Championship game.

589
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:07.760
This is how I'm thinking right now. But let's say they, you

590
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:12.480
know, they won a home playoff
game, and then in the divisional round

591
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:19.920
they lost, I don't know,
by a point to the Eagles or something

592
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:25.639
like that thirty one thirty incredible game
they lose, would it mean that that

593
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:30.159
the Lions are a bust, that
the Lions have gone back to be in

594
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:36.119
the the same old Lions, the
not the new Lions. They wouldn't mean

595
00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:42.760
that. Now. There are plenty
of scenarios where you could say that they

596
00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:45.360
could fall back, and there's going
to be a lot of fans because they're

597
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:49.840
just used to it with their entire
life, for their entire life, of

598
00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:55.840
the team performing like they have previous
to last year, that they are going

599
00:53:55.880 --> 00:54:02.800
to have to fight that fight the
ex spectations of the fans. So you

600
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:12.280
understand the question when it is presented
about being super Bowl at bust or super

601
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:17.920
Bowl or bust. Now. Dan
Campbell, in addition to saying that he

602
00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:29.000
doesn't see bust or super Bowl,
talked about the Lions. At this point,

603
00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:38.320
he singled out a most improved player
and it was Jamison Williams, the

604
00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:45.480
twelfth pick of the draft a couple
years ago. I want to talk about

605
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:51.159
him straight ahead. How much are
you accounting on Jamison Williams. What are

606
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:57.880
your expectations for Jamison Williams. When
you hear Dan Campbell saying, I mean

607
00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:06.840
the hype train, jump aboard Jamison
Williams most improved player from Thellions. What's

608
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Lions head coach Dan Campbell feeling pretty
good about Jamison Williams in OTAs ready to

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talk about that right now here this
morning because holiday weekend seven eighteen. Dennis

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00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:24.760
Fithian in for Matt Shepherd on Axis
and Bros. And the Michigan Sports Network.

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I'd ask you if you share Dan
Campbell's optimism about Jamison Williams, but

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not just asking you about just what
are your expectations for the Lions wide receiver.

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Dan Campbell says he's the most improved
player right now. What's that mean

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to you? I take it for
what it is. Give me your expectations

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00:56:55.679 --> 00:57:01.760
for the Lions wide receiver. Eight
six six eight three eight forty eight forty

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three. That's the Meyer hotline for
you to join us. Eight six six

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eight three eight forty eight forty three. You could text Sports Radio one word

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to twenty one thousand to get in
and get that prompt and let it fly

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00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:22.800
there. We'd love to hear from
you on that situation when it comes down

627
00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:28.760
to the Lions. In the eight
o'clock hour at eight thirty five, we

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00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:37.159
will talk with a Hall of famer
in the baseball writing business eight thirty five

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00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:44.039
for that Tigers get blown out.
They lost five in a row. They

630
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:50.800
lose nine to one to Toronto.
They're ten games back. Silver linings from

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yesterday is that they play again today, all right. So that's where it's

632
00:57:55.519 --> 00:58:00.960
at for me when it comes to
Jamison Williams. You know, his first

633
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:07.280
year he was hurt and the Alliance
moved up to get him, and there

634
00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:09.239
are a bunch of wide receivers that
were picked right there. The Lions picked

635
00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:14.159
twelve, and there were a few
that were picked in front of him,

636
00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:21.400
Drake London for one, a Lave
for New Orleans for another one. And

637
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:29.239
then was that last year he got
the gambling suspension and it felt like you

638
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:32.239
you can't tell you drafted it when
he was hurt, so you can't say,

639
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:37.880
well, your best availability is availability. You know all that. There's

640
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:42.039
the cliches that you hear. But
then I don't know how you look shooting

641
00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:45.320
yourself at the foot and taking yourself
off the field with the suspension. But

642
00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:49.119
you thought it was stupid or not. It was a little stupid, A

643
00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:52.079
little stupid from him, was stupid
from the league, you know, to

644
00:58:52.159 --> 00:59:00.960
suspend him with everything else. And
then you would watch him and at times

645
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:09.000
he would flash the ability where you
saw like now we know why this guy

646
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:15.719
is now we know why this guy
was picked in the first round. Now

647
00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:20.960
we see that this guy could be
a difference maker out of the field.

648
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:25.519
But as many times as you saw
that from him, you saw plays where

649
00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:31.199
they would throwing the ball and he
would just absolutely cold drop it. And

650
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:42.119
for most of the season last year
it looked more like if you had to

651
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:50.760
push all in at different times on
him being a bust or him being a

652
00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:58.400
star, you were pushing it towards
being a bust. Another drop from Williams,

653
00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:04.480
I mean it was, it's there, it's front and center, you

654
01:00:04.639 --> 01:00:07.920
know that. But then there are
a few the game where he took me

655
01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:15.920
the end around and went flying into
the end zone. This is why it's

656
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:24.840
tantalizing to me. Sometimes I'll just
see one play from a player and it's

657
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:30.159
one of those that whether it makes
you jump out of your seat or your

658
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:35.519
just eyes open a little bit wider
and you just see the talent and on

659
01:00:35.719 --> 01:00:42.159
that particular run and jump into the
end zone, I saw something that in

660
01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:46.599
a league of incredible players and incredible
talent and awesome athletes, I saw like

661
01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:52.360
a one percent at the very top
of all of that. That's what I

662
01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:58.079
saw with the ability from Jamison Williams. So you want to do obviously everything

663
01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:04.320
you can to be able to get
the most out of him. I think

664
01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:08.039
at first I thought, well,
would I take double the production? Is

665
01:01:08.119 --> 01:01:13.239
that fair? Well? The production
wasn't all that great last year, So

666
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:17.079
before you would answer that, last
year he caught twenty four passes for over

667
01:01:17.239 --> 01:01:22.039
three hundred and fifty yards and had
just two scores. So would I take

668
01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:28.679
forty eight catches over seven hundred yards
and four tens from Jamison Williams this year?

669
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:36.400
I would like some more scores honestly
with that, but knowing the Lions

670
01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:45.679
roster and knowing what this team has, I would take that. And Jamison

671
01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:52.440
Williams is in a great position.
He's not someone that gets out there.

672
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:55.800
Even if he came out and dropped
a few passes off the bat and I

673
01:01:55.840 --> 01:02:00.320
had everybody like, guy's a bust
again, Dan Campbell saying, you know,

674
01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:05.000
he's the most improved player at OTAs
and he's a man on the mission,

675
01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:07.320
A man on a mission. You
love to hear that. There's no

676
01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:10.760
doubt about that. It's not like
when somebody says, hey, what do

677
01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:15.280
you think about Jamison Williams and Dan
Campbell says, well, he's got a

678
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:17.639
lot of work to do. We're
you know, we're happy with this progress.

679
01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:23.519
It's a pretty bland type statement.
Dan Campbell saying he is a man

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01:02:23.599 --> 01:02:30.440
on a mission and that he is
the most improved player at OTAs. Yeah,

681
01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:35.119
when you are like me and you
watched allions last year and you watch

682
01:02:35.199 --> 01:02:39.159
this guy fly through the air and
look like Superman when he has the ball

683
01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:46.719
in his hands, He's the kind
of guy that if you are thinking about

684
01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:55.760
winning a super Bowl, He's the
kind of weapon teams have where other fans

685
01:02:55.960 --> 01:03:00.400
around the league are watching it say
we need a guy that's explosive of like

686
01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:05.480
that. This guy's a difference maker. He has got that in him and

687
01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:10.199
he is in the perfect situation.
He's got a quarterback that can deliver the

688
01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:16.800
ball. He has an offensive line
with a complimentary running game. And then

689
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:25.239
when you go through the weapons on
offense at receiver, Amana S. Brown

690
01:03:25.559 --> 01:03:30.559
is a wide receiver one. He
is one of the better widest Why I

691
01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:35.320
got rewarded with the gigantic contract.
He is one of the better wide receivers

692
01:03:35.960 --> 01:03:46.719
in the NFL. Sam Laporta is
the best tight end. I have to

693
01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:52.280
apologize to Travis Kelson. I'm not
apologing Sam Laporta is one of the best

694
01:03:52.320 --> 01:04:00.440
tight ends and he's only in his
second year. One of the best wide

695
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:06.239
outs on the other side, with
Saint Brown the best or one of the

696
01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:15.039
best tight ends, if not the
best, one of the best. This

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01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:24.039
is being conservative offensive lines. Same
thing with their their their running backs.

698
01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:30.719
No, I don't think David Montgomery
is the best running back in the NFL.

699
01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:35.239
I think that's Christian McCaffrey. But
do I think that the combination of

700
01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:40.519
Jamiir Gibbs and David Montgomery is one
of the best backfields in the NFL.

701
01:04:40.599 --> 01:04:48.280
Absolutely, this could be the best
offense in the NFL. What would have

702
01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:53.000
to happen, Well, you know, Golf could deliver the ball he gets

703
01:04:53.039 --> 01:04:57.079
the time. You've got the tandem
at running backs. You just talked about

704
01:04:57.679 --> 01:05:00.880
Saint Brown and Laporta. These guys
are proof of this is not a huge

705
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:05.559
stretch an offensive line who actually didn't
really stay healthy last year and was still

706
01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:13.679
effective. But you've seen the kind
of talent they have there. Williams is

707
01:05:13.800 --> 01:05:17.039
the piece that could take this to
the next level, and the next level

708
01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:21.800
is being the best and most explosive
offense in the NFL. Now That's where

709
01:05:21.840 --> 01:05:32.079
I'm sitting. How about you slamming
down a little bit too much Honolulu blue

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kool Aid today, I want you
you get your thoughts on that, we

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get some texts, we'll get to
those straight ahead. Your expectations for Jamison

712
01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:49.559
Williams, who Dan Campbell says,
is a man on a mission. We're

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enjoyable Memorial Weekend. And I think
it's just getting started. We're just getting

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01:07:58.519 --> 01:08:02.400
started here. I'm Dennis Fithian in
for Matt Shepherd. A couple of things

734
01:08:02.440 --> 01:08:08.199
I want to remind you about coming
up. In ten minutes we continue the

735
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Lions conversation, but I'm going to
talk about going all in on a trade

736
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and how you would feel about it. T Higgins an all in situation for

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the Lions. In ten minutes,
it leaves to explore that and an hour

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from right now, we will talk
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forty year Tigers beat writer. We
will get to that in an hour from

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right now. Right now, we
are discussing the Lions, and there's nothing

741
01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:47.840
if you are a Lions fan this
morning and waking up and did not hear

742
01:08:47.960 --> 01:08:55.560
Dan Campbell yesterday, there's nothing that
is going to light the fuse on off

743
01:08:55.680 --> 01:09:01.399
season expectations, excitement just take off
to the moon that Dan Campbell coming out

744
01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:08.479
and saying Jamison Williams as a man
on a mission, Jamison Williams has been

745
01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:14.079
our best player in OTAs. That's
what Dan Campbell, with his grit had

746
01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:16.479
on, had to say in front
of the media yesterday to all of you

747
01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:24.760
Lions fans. So I'm asking you
how much you're counting on Jamison Williams and

748
01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:30.159
your expectations. I just say quickly
before we go to the texts and the

749
01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:39.079
phones, that is so tantalizing to
think about if you would be able to

750
01:09:39.319 --> 01:09:45.840
get the difference maker, playmaker,
he is the part, he is the

751
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:50.159
piece that could take the Lions.
I mean, we are looking at it.

752
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:55.079
We have talked about for our life. How do you get to the

753
01:09:55.279 --> 01:10:01.800
top and how do you win.
You win with a great line play quarterback

754
01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:05.960
all over the field, but you
win with difference makers and big time playmakers

755
01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:13.279
and Williams. Although at times he's
looked more like a bus than he has

756
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all of the things that I'm talking
about, he possesses that it where he's

757
01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:26.640
just a stick of dynamite on the
field ready to explode and be a difference

758
01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:30.640
maker for a team like the Detroit
Lions, who he's playing for. So

759
01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:34.039
that's it. Eight sixty six eight
three, eight forty eight forty three on

760
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the Myer Hotline. That's how I
think about it. We'll get through those

761
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texts Sports Radio one word to twenty
one thousand, we go to Mark and

762
01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:47.600
gun Lake, who joined us on
x'es and bros. Hey, good morning,

763
01:10:47.680 --> 01:10:51.000
how you doing today? Oh doing
great? Thanks for calling in.

764
01:10:53.039 --> 01:11:00.760
Mark. I think coach Campbell is
hitting around at using Jamison in some kick

765
01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:02.840
returns, because if he's going to
keep going for it on fourth down,

766
01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:08.279
I think he can get better field
position if we got a punt returner or

767
01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:12.720
a kick returner to get that thing
to midfield or maybe a little short of

768
01:11:12.760 --> 01:11:17.000
midfield. But if you can average
well. When he scored that touchdown and

769
01:11:17.239 --> 01:11:23.199
in the playoffs, unfortunately we lost
that game. But I yeah, yeah,

770
01:11:24.279 --> 01:11:28.720
when he got through that line,
he broke a couple of tackles getting

771
01:11:28.760 --> 01:11:30.560
through there, and he kept his
balance. I'm thinking, man, this

772
01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:34.920
guy could probably return. So do
you remember mel Gray from the Lions back

773
01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:38.640
in the day. Yeah, I
loved well Gray. Yeah, we all

774
01:11:38.680 --> 01:11:44.399
loved Bell Gray. So yeah,
I think he I think he looks a

775
01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:49.239
lot like him with that acceleration and
that speed and how he can he can

776
01:11:49.399 --> 01:11:53.520
return that ball. But let me
ask you one more thing and then I'll

777
01:11:53.560 --> 01:11:59.079
bounce off the line here. I've
been watching some of the NBA playoffs and

778
01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:03.439
you talked earlier today about the Pistons, and I'm getting up maybe a different

779
01:12:04.239 --> 01:12:09.720
person in there to help the team
win or win a few games. Anyways,

780
01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:13.560
these teams, these final four teams, these guys are gym rats.

781
01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:17.079
I mean, you can tell this
is brutal basketball. These guys are killing

782
01:12:17.159 --> 01:12:21.079
each other. They're running all over
the place. They look totally different than

783
01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:25.840
the Pistons, And I think the
Pistons got to spend a lot more time

784
01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:30.119
in the gym instead of figuring out
why they're losing games. Because these teams

785
01:12:30.159 --> 01:12:34.159
are running, I mean Indiana and
Boston. That's all they see these guys

786
01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:38.800
do last night was run. They
played defense, if someone was covered,

787
01:12:38.840 --> 01:12:41.800
they passed the ball. They share
the ball a lot. So I want

788
01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:44.840
to hear your thoughts on that,
if you got a minute about talking about

789
01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:50.119
the Pistons just getting into that gym
and focusing on being gym rats. I

790
01:12:50.159 --> 01:12:53.880
mean, they got to start,
they got to start winning some games for

791
01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:57.359
people to go back down there.
So I think you're doing a great job

792
01:12:57.800 --> 01:13:00.680
filling in for Chef. Thanks for
taking my call. Now I'll listen off

793
01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:02.960
air here. Well, thanks Mark
for calling. And yeah, I mean

794
01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:08.840
there's a stark contrast when you were
watching these playoffs and then you watch the

795
01:13:08.920 --> 01:13:12.720
Pistons during the year and the things. There's a lot of different things that

796
01:13:13.119 --> 01:13:15.880
jump out to me. One is
that when you see a team like the

797
01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:25.279
Celtics a starting five, that there's
just there's no everybody can do everything.

798
01:13:25.560 --> 01:13:30.560
And Al Horford, who's actually uh, you know, backing up porzingis while

799
01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:35.800
he heals up, could come back
this series. He can dial it in

800
01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:42.159
from downtown. And of course they've
got the the one two combination of Brown

801
01:13:42.239 --> 01:13:48.479
and Tatum, but Drew Holliday is
totally underrated. Derek White. I mean

802
01:13:48.520 --> 01:13:53.840
they've they're coming at you from all
five spots, and all five players can

803
01:13:53.920 --> 01:13:58.239
do everything that you want. When
you look at the Pistons lineup, they

804
01:13:58.319 --> 01:14:03.039
don't have that Cuttingham can do it
at all. Who else? Not many?

805
01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:06.439
They got other guys that need to
work on they're all around games.

806
01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:13.479
To your point about getting into the
gym, can they develop? I think

807
01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:16.239
that Thompson, the rookie from last
year, you know he needs to develop

808
01:14:17.039 --> 01:14:23.199
clearly his offensive game, his outside
shot, him being able to put it

809
01:14:23.279 --> 01:14:26.279
on the floor, take it.
Ivy needs to work on his outside game.

810
01:14:26.760 --> 01:14:30.079
Isaiah Stewart has, but you know
there's a ceiling with him. I

811
01:14:30.119 --> 01:14:34.079
also think there's a ceiling with Duran. But you can have like one guy,

812
01:14:35.279 --> 01:14:39.039
like let's say it was Asar Thompson, they'd say, okay, this

813
01:14:39.159 --> 01:14:43.520
is a project. But you can't
have three guys, four guys and your

814
01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:48.000
starting lineup that have holes in their
game like the Pistons do, or you're

815
01:14:48.039 --> 01:14:53.880
gonna end up seeing everybody in the
standings. And that's where the Pistons are

816
01:14:53.880 --> 01:14:57.680
at. They look up and they
see everyone and I know, it's easy

817
01:14:57.720 --> 01:14:59.600
to say, well, yeah,
Boston, they have the best record in

818
01:14:59.640 --> 01:15:01.720
the league, they're gonna win the
NBA Finals. How about the Pacers.

819
01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:06.720
Pacers seem like the same way.
I don't know they you know, they

820
01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:11.840
got spicy p Siakam, who's awesome, who's going to be a free agent.

821
01:15:12.439 --> 01:15:17.000
Obviously Halliburton, which burns me and
should burn everyone as a Piston fan.

822
01:15:17.199 --> 01:15:21.600
Because it was only the twenty twenty
NBA Draft, we only have to

823
01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:27.119
look back to then to feel like, oh yeah, Anthony Edwards was taken

824
01:15:27.239 --> 01:15:30.279
number one by Minnesota James Wiseman,
who is on this Piston team, but

825
01:15:30.359 --> 01:15:33.439
as a bust that's sitting there.
But the Pistons took Killian Hayes at seven,

826
01:15:34.199 --> 01:15:38.800
and they were going after a point
guard. It was pretty clear that's

827
01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:42.720
what they needed for their team at
the time. The next point guard off

828
01:15:42.800 --> 01:15:50.560
the board was ty Reese Halliburton,
killer for the Pistons. Oh yeah,

829
01:15:50.680 --> 01:15:57.800
Aaron Netsmith, who is starting for
the Pacers. He was also taking a

830
01:15:57.840 --> 01:16:01.600
few picks after Halliburton. And you
look at the way he's been playing.

831
01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:05.600
It played great last night or nimhard. I mean, these are these are

832
01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:10.479
not players that are out there that
are household names that fit in. Though.

833
01:16:12.079 --> 01:16:16.800
That's the thing with the Pistons just
you can you could have five moves

834
01:16:16.960 --> 01:16:27.760
like this, but just recently Haliburton
over killing in Hayes, Donovan Mitchell going

835
01:16:27.840 --> 01:16:34.760
one pick after the Pistons take uh
Luke Canard, one little thing and this

836
01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:43.560
course of this UH franchise is going
to be different. Instead, you know,

837
01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:47.560
they got enamored with the the process
and the multiple year tanks, which

838
01:16:50.199 --> 01:16:54.760
the next guy that comes into an
NBA franchise that says, there's my game

839
01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:59.159
plan is a multiple year tank.
I'm not the owner. I was saying,

840
01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:05.760
you know, well, what do
we do you do for thanks multiple

841
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:16.680
year? Take the idea of the
Detroit Pistons and they're Troy Weaver. Yeah,

842
01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:20.319
let's how about some texts. We
get some time to squeeze some text

843
01:17:20.399 --> 01:17:25.000
here. Let's go to b Z. It's ben zos. What are we

844
01:17:25.079 --> 01:17:28.239
looking at? This one is back
to if it's Super Bowl or bus for

845
01:17:28.319 --> 01:17:32.479
the Lions. Trash man Niles says
bust. He says Green Bay Packers are

846
01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:39.239
coming into Detroit round one of the
playoffs and knocking us out and Thanksgiving too,

847
01:17:41.920 --> 01:17:45.000
Well, let's let's let's take that
of text right out to the trash.

848
01:17:45.079 --> 01:17:49.000
No, you know, the Packers
are there, and the Packers get

849
01:17:49.039 --> 01:17:56.199
their quarterback. And I was looking
so closely at the Packers yesterday and all

850
01:17:56.319 --> 01:18:00.960
of their moves. Yeah, they
they cut David Baktyari, their longtime tackle,

851
01:18:01.159 --> 01:18:06.159
and also moved on from Aaron Jones. They're outstanding running back with their

852
01:18:06.199 --> 01:18:11.079
replacements for those guys, Josh Jacobs. And then they go to the draft

853
01:18:11.239 --> 01:18:15.399
and get Jordan Morgan. Yeah,
the Packers aren't going anywhere the Lions and

854
01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:21.520
Packers is you know, you're talking
about them coming in and knocking them out

855
01:18:21.520 --> 01:18:26.640
of the playoffs and all those things. I see a split between the Lions

856
01:18:26.680 --> 01:18:31.000
and Packers this year. That is
the most formidable team in the North that

857
01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:34.920
the Lions are gonna have to deal
with. But right now, the Lions,

858
01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:42.199
trash man, they have more talent, They have a better team than

859
01:18:42.239 --> 01:18:45.279
the Green Bay Packers. You say, yeah, but the Lions defense really

860
01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:54.479
sucked last year. You know they
their pass a defense total defense was nineteenth.

861
01:18:54.680 --> 01:18:57.439
It's not like the Packers were sitting
there as a top ten defense.

862
01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:02.520
The Packers were at sixteen pound for
pound player for player from the Lions and

863
01:19:02.600 --> 01:19:06.079
Packers. I just complimented them.
But the Lions have more talent and are

864
01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:12.399
the better team. What else are
we looking at, Ben, Yeah,

865
01:19:12.399 --> 01:19:15.920
it says a bust indicates that you
have one shot at this. Detroit has

866
01:19:15.960 --> 01:19:19.319
a foundation and they have a window
of time to hopefully have a couple cracks

867
01:19:19.359 --> 01:19:24.479
at the super Bowl. Just like
Michigan was in the playoffs three times,

868
01:19:24.640 --> 01:19:27.840
it may take a few shots for
Detroit as well. So it's not a

869
01:19:27.960 --> 01:19:31.720
bust. It's windows open and expectation. Expectations are the super Bowl. I

870
01:19:31.800 --> 01:19:39.520
think that's what Dan meant. Dan
very well thought through and excellent text texts.

871
01:19:39.560 --> 01:19:43.920
More often those are the kind that
that that nail it right on the

872
01:19:43.960 --> 01:19:46.600
head. That's the thing college,
you know, it could feel like a

873
01:19:46.640 --> 01:19:53.399
bus because you only have that window
with that team that year. That's the

874
01:19:53.479 --> 01:19:56.079
thing with the Lions, that that
gives you so much hope. Last year

875
01:19:56.119 --> 01:19:58.119
when you look at it, you
know, nobody would say, you know,

876
01:19:58.399 --> 01:20:01.560
we're not looking at it and say
it was just a fluke. No,

877
01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:06.239
that doesn't it didn't seem like it
was a fluke at all. They

878
01:20:06.279 --> 01:20:11.319
won twelve games, They should have
won more. They should have gone into

879
01:20:11.359 --> 01:20:13.319
the Super Bowl. I know,
the second half and everything else, but

880
01:20:14.039 --> 01:20:16.880
we've gone through the position groups,
I mean, the offense and then if

881
01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:24.920
you can add in the shooting star
of Jamison Williams, you are really talking

882
01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:28.560
about something lethal on one side of
the ball and they do have that window.

883
01:20:29.359 --> 01:20:31.439
See how far that defense could take
them on that. I love the

884
01:20:31.520 --> 01:20:38.640
text. Great, great job Dan. Are we going for more? Yeah?

885
01:20:38.680 --> 01:20:40.680
We can do one, do a
couple more, one more, a

886
01:20:40.760 --> 01:20:44.680
couple more. Yeah, it says
as we know in the NFL, nothing

887
01:20:44.800 --> 01:20:48.439
is a given. You have to
earn every year and the Lions are no

888
01:20:48.640 --> 01:20:53.159
different. I am fired up and
ready for the challenge. Let's go Lions.

889
01:20:53.239 --> 01:20:58.960
That's from Jyd and Kalamazoo. Well, j y D, I'm right

890
01:20:59.039 --> 01:21:03.680
with you there, and we have
a long time to burn between now and

891
01:21:03.800 --> 01:21:08.840
the start of the season. But
that's it. This is off season and

892
01:21:09.479 --> 01:21:12.600
this is so much why I like, you know, now, being as

893
01:21:12.760 --> 01:21:16.680
present as I possibly can heading into
this Memorial Weekend. All of the years

894
01:21:16.880 --> 01:21:24.159
prior and the it it uh,
it's just felt like off season false hope,

895
01:21:24.359 --> 01:21:28.279
like why not us that kind of
stuff, But now it's real.

896
01:21:29.399 --> 01:21:33.600
What you can look at it's you
see it. You go through the roster,

897
01:21:33.800 --> 01:21:36.880
you look at the talent, you
you know how this thing fits in.

898
01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:43.680
Obviously they have to go out there
like jyd to get the the job

899
01:21:43.880 --> 01:21:48.319
done. But yeah, they keep
hammering that, no doubt what more and

900
01:21:48.399 --> 01:21:55.560
then we will get you ready straight
ahead for the possibility of adding a big

901
01:21:55.760 --> 01:21:59.319
piece with this team. What's what's
the last one we're gonna squeeze in here?

902
01:21:59.439 --> 01:22:01.560
Yeah, this is a question from
Freddie. It says Dennis, if

903
01:22:02.119 --> 01:22:08.119
Dan Campbell was manager of the Detroit
Tigers, would they be in first place

904
01:22:08.239 --> 01:22:14.319
right now? This team plays like
aj talks like pain drying. Well,

905
01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:17.640
I'm gonna disagree with you on aj
Hinch. You now, like, do

906
01:22:17.720 --> 01:22:21.560
you want I think if Dan Campbell
was down on the dugout, I like

907
01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:29.079
not like other folks. I don't
mind once in a while a manager taking

908
01:22:29.119 --> 01:22:31.520
a batrack and you know, throwing
it out on the field, or taking

909
01:22:31.600 --> 01:22:38.279
the cooler, or or spilling over
the food spread in the locker room.

910
01:22:38.399 --> 01:22:40.640
I like that kind of thing once
in a while. You can't just be

911
01:22:41.039 --> 01:22:46.279
crazy and do all of that.
But I think that aj Hinch is the

912
01:22:46.720 --> 01:22:53.800
least of their problems. The problems. You look at the players that they

913
01:22:53.840 --> 01:22:59.800
have acquired, especially the ones that
they have acquired with the first overall pick

914
01:22:59.880 --> 01:23:04.399
up the draft. You're expecting these
guys like of Paul Skeens, who's going

915
01:23:04.479 --> 01:23:09.800
to be pitching for He pitched last
night, He's gonna be pitching Wednesday afternoon

916
01:23:09.840 --> 01:23:14.079
at America Park. He was taken
at one one. So is Casey Mice.

917
01:23:14.479 --> 01:23:16.680
Skeens right now is being talked about, Oh, you hadn't seen a

918
01:23:16.720 --> 01:23:21.079
guy like this since Strasburg, who
was also taken as the first pick overall.

919
01:23:21.399 --> 01:23:27.960
Strasburg won a World Series. You're
hoping that you get a Strasburg or

920
01:23:28.279 --> 01:23:33.439
Skeens. When you take a guy
number one like that, or Torque who

921
01:23:33.560 --> 01:23:38.439
was also taken at one one,
you're thinking about, Uh, I don't

922
01:23:38.439 --> 01:23:44.920
know Bryce Harper who was taken at
that spot. These are the reasons that

923
01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:51.640
the Tigers are where they're at.
And also their owner, who is just

924
01:23:51.800 --> 01:24:00.520
tiptoeing and is very much the opposite
of his dad, who was conc assumed

925
01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:06.560
with the challenge of getting the Tigers
to the postseason and trying to win a

926
01:24:06.680 --> 01:24:15.640
World Series. Chris Ilich comes off
as somebody who is the exact opposite of

927
01:24:15.800 --> 01:24:21.920
that. It happens. It happens, But he it seems like he is

928
01:24:24.359 --> 01:24:30.439
much more concerned with the bottom line
and how much money that they're pulling in

929
01:24:30.840 --> 01:24:38.439
and every other position that he has. And it's not about being consumed at

930
01:24:38.479 --> 01:24:44.199
all about the Tigers with a winner. But Hinch is the least of the

931
01:24:44.319 --> 01:24:46.439
tigers problems. He's actually something they
have that is going for him. If

932
01:24:46.479 --> 01:24:51.640
I was putting together a ledger,
all right, we uh will continue on

933
01:24:51.800 --> 01:25:00.600
coming up at eight oh one.
I was getting into if the Lions.

934
01:25:00.880 --> 01:25:08.520
I've been making the case for them
going all in on a big time trade,

935
01:25:11.039 --> 01:25:14.600
and we will get to that at
eight oh one. The name T.

936
01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:17.039
Higgins doesn't get any bigger than that. Now we're talking about an outstanding

937
01:25:17.119 --> 01:25:26.359
wide receiver and Jamison Williams an absolute
star, and Higgins he wants out.

938
01:25:27.159 --> 01:25:32.239
Would that be an all in move? Could you even think about that as

939
01:25:32.279 --> 01:25:38.399
a Lions fan? That will lead
us off. We'll get to some baseball

940
01:25:38.600 --> 01:25:43.239
coming up. At eight thirty five. Tom Gage will join us. We'll

941
01:25:43.279 --> 01:25:49.520
ask him if AJ Hinch is a
problem, as a Freddie suggests via the

942
01:25:49.680 --> 01:25:58.520
text, all right, so it
is memorial weekend. We've got an hour

943
01:25:58.680 --> 01:26:06.520
to go. We are going to
bring it and we'll continue hitting on these

944
01:26:08.680 --> 01:26:13.680
on these lions. And we've got
that Tiger's talk as well. I'm Dennis

945
01:26:13.720 --> 01:26:18.720
Fifthy in ben zost is here as
well, fielding your calls, reading your

946
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975
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total players, you need to b
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976
01:28:57.439 --> 01:29:00.720
need a bunch of cats in here. Looking in the mirror, I look

977
01:29:00.840 --> 01:29:03.079
good. I got my extra bands
on, I got my others shoes.

978
01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:08.159
Be a doll. We don't need
no meals. We don't need no cats.

979
01:29:08.439 --> 01:29:12.199
We need more dolls. I a
lot at the time, are you

980
01:29:12.439 --> 01:29:15.760
not? At the time, we
weren't good. There's no sense of asking

981
01:29:15.800 --> 01:29:17.079
me things about the game. I'm
telling you we laid an egg. So

982
01:29:17.319 --> 01:29:20.880
I'm not gonna break it down for
you. He sucks. He sucked.

983
01:29:21.680 --> 01:29:25.399
He laid an egg. That's all
I have to say. Guys, I'm

984
01:29:25.439 --> 01:29:27.920
sorry. I'm not going to break
it down for you. Nothing went well

985
01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:30.760
for us. It's on us.
We have to figure it out and we

986
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will. It's your dad. Tigers
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coming home after getting swept by Kansas
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in to the eight o'clock hour tennis. Fithian in for Matt Shepherd on x'es

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and Bros. I'm the Michigan Sports
Network. Yeah, nine to one.

990
01:29:53.720 --> 01:29:56.960
Tigers have lost five in a row. Coming up in a half hour,

991
01:29:57.039 --> 01:30:02.319
we'll talk some Tigers with Tom Gage, a long time I'm Tiger beat writer.

992
01:30:03.359 --> 01:30:08.119
Right now, we're we're talking about
the Allions. Is it Super Bowl

993
01:30:08.319 --> 01:30:13.880
or bus? Dan Campbell, Lions
head coach, answered that question, also

994
01:30:14.279 --> 01:30:17.359
got the hype train going for the
Jamison Williams, calling him the most improved

995
01:30:17.399 --> 01:30:21.119
player, saying he's a man on
the mission. He's a man on a

996
01:30:21.199 --> 01:30:27.520
mission. How much are you counting
on Jamison Williams? What do you expect

997
01:30:27.520 --> 01:30:29.720
from him? And there's a couple
of questions that we have out there.

998
01:30:30.520 --> 01:30:39.920
You're just waking up tuning in Celtics
beat the Pacers, Oilers in double overtime

999
01:30:41.880 --> 01:30:46.960
over the Stars down in Big d. Those are your finals in basketball and

1000
01:30:47.640 --> 01:30:58.119
hockey and of course baseball. I
said, would it be something that the

1001
01:30:58.439 --> 01:31:03.239
Lions would think about doing going all
in for T Higgins, the outstanding wide

1002
01:31:03.239 --> 01:31:11.479
receiver for Cincinnati, who's doesn't want
to sign any kind of franchise tag.

1003
01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:13.800
He's trying to get DELT. He
wants a long term deal. He wants

1004
01:31:13.840 --> 01:31:16.960
to get DELT. And you think
about the Lions and the position that they're

1005
01:31:17.000 --> 01:31:26.159
in, and could you add a
T. Higgins? And the first thing

1006
01:31:26.239 --> 01:31:29.600
you think, you know, you
get a big name, and you get

1007
01:31:29.640 --> 01:31:31.720
the Lions offense, and you already
got him on our Saint Brown and you're

1008
01:31:31.760 --> 01:31:34.680
looking over there and you got left
Porta and and everything that you know,

1009
01:31:34.800 --> 01:31:39.319
and then we're just talking about Jamison
Williams, Like, wow, how about

1010
01:31:39.359 --> 01:31:44.319
T Higgins? This could be the
best offense in the league. If you

1011
01:31:44.359 --> 01:31:47.520
were able to bring T. Higgins
in now, that might be the best

1012
01:31:47.560 --> 01:31:54.079
offense in the league. Anyways,
if if Williams even comes close to the

1013
01:31:54.199 --> 01:31:58.960
kind of hype that has been bestowed
on him in the last twenty four hours.

1014
01:32:00.600 --> 01:32:04.239
The reason I here, I bring
it up to kind of get everything

1015
01:32:04.359 --> 01:32:08.920
going. But then here's the bunch
of cold water on to bring in a

1016
01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:14.279
T. Higgins. One if the
Lions were going to make a big swing

1017
01:32:15.439 --> 01:32:21.479
and go all in, so to
speak, it would be on the other

1018
01:32:21.560 --> 01:32:32.359
side of the ball. If you
follow Brad Holmes so far, at least

1019
01:32:32.439 --> 01:32:42.039
through now this upcoming being his fourth
year, there's no track record to suggest

1020
01:32:42.119 --> 01:32:46.520
that he's doing anything all in.
You know, he has not gone after

1021
01:32:47.159 --> 01:32:53.640
that big name in free agency.
Maybe you think Kevin Zeitler, the offensive

1022
01:32:53.640 --> 01:32:57.680
guard from the Ravens that the Lions
brought in to fill in on their offensive

1023
01:32:57.720 --> 01:33:00.039
line. That's you know, a
big name for you all right, DJ

1024
01:33:00.239 --> 01:33:04.520
Reader on the defensive side at the
defensive tackle. But you know, trading

1025
01:33:04.600 --> 01:33:10.479
for Carlton Davis or you know,
signing Marcus Davenport. You know those aren't

1026
01:33:11.399 --> 01:33:17.119
going all in moves. So a
little bit of cold water wrong side of

1027
01:33:17.159 --> 01:33:23.359
the ball and then wrong general manager
think about the big swing and going all

1028
01:33:23.439 --> 01:33:28.319
in. But maybe you know he's
got a tree. You know, you

1029
01:33:28.720 --> 01:33:31.039
say all of this, but then
Holmes is sitting back there, and if

1030
01:33:32.039 --> 01:33:40.039
I could see him going completely against
what he's done, and you know,

1031
01:33:40.159 --> 01:33:44.840
even bolstering the offensive side if the
deal was right, because the Lions are

1032
01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:49.760
in that position where it is a
piece or two a player or two where

1033
01:33:49.800 --> 01:33:54.159
you were talking about the possibility of
this team winning a Super Bowl. He

1034
01:33:54.239 --> 01:33:57.600
knows that, I know that,
you know that the movie's going to make

1035
01:33:57.840 --> 01:34:00.439
what's it going to be? And
honestly, just got to continue this is

1036
01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:04.359
that's just kind of hang in there, hang around. This is not we're

1037
01:34:04.399 --> 01:34:08.840
not ready to push all of our
chips in yet. We're Yeah, we

1038
01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:13.439
got some stacks that we're firing once
in a while here on our poker analogy,

1039
01:34:14.119 --> 01:34:16.039
but not all in Let's go to
the phones. Where are we going

1040
01:34:16.159 --> 01:34:20.720
to Ben? Yeah, we got
Freddy on the line. Oh Freddy,

1041
01:34:21.319 --> 01:34:26.920
Freddy, how are you? Good
morning, Dennis? How are you baby?

1042
01:34:28.159 --> 01:34:31.399
I'm doing good, Freddie. I
hope you have an enjoyable Memorial weekend

1043
01:34:33.319 --> 01:34:35.640
you as well, Buddy. We
gotta get you back on the radio full

1044
01:34:35.720 --> 01:34:41.039
time. You're You're much You're much
needed, I'll tell you that. So

1045
01:34:42.079 --> 01:34:47.239
now, people that are answering this
question super Bowl or bust are not answering

1046
01:34:47.279 --> 01:34:51.239
it with emotions right now because the
football season's out here. They're not watching

1047
01:34:51.279 --> 01:34:57.800
the games. You're fooling yourself if
you're saying it's not super Bowl or boss.

1048
01:34:58.399 --> 01:35:01.720
This team doesn't win a super Bowl
in the next I'm not gonna say

1049
01:35:01.760 --> 01:35:04.680
five ten years. Let's forget about
that the next two years. If this

1050
01:35:04.720 --> 01:35:09.199
team doesn't win a Super Bowl next
two years, it's an absolute bust.

1051
01:35:09.880 --> 01:35:14.239
Okay, because the Rams went to
the Super Bowl with Jared Golf and it

1052
01:35:14.359 --> 01:35:15.399
was a bust for them. And
what they do. They shipped them to

1053
01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:21.000
the town and they brought another quarterback
to win the Super Bowl. So this

1054
01:35:21.199 --> 01:35:26.079
team, if they don't get to
the super Bowl this year, I don't

1055
01:35:26.119 --> 01:35:30.800
care what anybody says. Half of
this fan base is gonna turn on Jared

1056
01:35:30.840 --> 01:35:36.520
Golf because they the Golf is a
likable guy, good dude, you know

1057
01:35:36.680 --> 01:35:41.600
the Jared Golf chants and all that
stuff. But he'll be the number one

1058
01:35:41.640 --> 01:35:44.760
target if he doesn't get to the
super Bowl this year. Absolutely, there's

1059
01:35:44.800 --> 01:35:48.279
no doubt about it. But's with
the money he's gotten, and it's it's

1060
01:35:48.319 --> 01:35:51.560
super Bowl or busts. This team
has never won Super Bowl's never been to

1061
01:35:51.640 --> 01:35:55.319
a Super Bowl. They smelled it
last year. They blew it in the

1062
01:35:55.439 --> 01:36:00.319
second half. They absolutely blew it. And and I just think people if

1063
01:36:00.359 --> 01:36:02.840
they say, well, it's you
know, we don't if we don't get

1064
01:36:02.880 --> 01:36:06.359
the Super Bowl. It's okay,
you're not you're not dealing with the emotions

1065
01:36:06.439 --> 01:36:11.439
right now. You're not watching the
games. Once the game starts, your

1066
01:36:11.479 --> 01:36:15.159
emotions are going to be completely different. Well you're right about that, Freddie.

1067
01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:17.840
If we could fast forward to the
divisional round right now, and I've

1068
01:36:18.039 --> 01:36:20.680
talked a little bit about it earlier, and you know, the Lions lose

1069
01:36:20.760 --> 01:36:25.239
by one point to let's say the
Eagles. What you're saying is exactly true.

1070
01:36:25.319 --> 01:36:27.520
For twenty four or forty eight hours, people are gonna be out of

1071
01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:31.159
their mind and the windows slamming shot
and everything else. But you get a

1072
01:36:31.199 --> 01:36:36.199
little further back, and you do
if you if you don't have the kind

1073
01:36:36.239 --> 01:36:41.880
of team where you think that they
could run it back and they still have

1074
01:36:42.039 --> 01:36:44.279
a window, I mean, that's
going to be the thing that you have

1075
01:36:44.439 --> 01:36:47.039
to remember. Sure, the emotion. You know, there were people last

1076
01:36:47.079 --> 01:36:50.359
year after they completely melted down,
that like, this is back to square

1077
01:36:50.439 --> 01:36:54.119
one, this is their one chance. This is the same old Lions.

1078
01:36:54.319 --> 01:36:59.600
But people even that thought that,
after a week or two looked at this

1079
01:36:59.720 --> 01:37:01.720
and said, well, you know, this is this team has all of

1080
01:37:01.840 --> 01:37:05.640
the components to come back and be
in the same position next year, and

1081
01:37:05.760 --> 01:37:09.239
you know, we don't know because
there's a lot of factors. And sometimes

1082
01:37:09.279 --> 01:37:14.600
the window looks wide open and then
that's slam shut so fast. And you

1083
01:37:14.680 --> 01:37:16.880
know, so there is that danger. But you know, and you even

1084
01:37:16.920 --> 01:37:20.880
said it yourself. You put two
years on it. If they don't win

1085
01:37:20.920 --> 01:37:24.960
in two years, I said three, So we're not that far apart.

1086
01:37:25.039 --> 01:37:30.159
I look at it as a three
year window or bust. But you know,

1087
01:37:30.560 --> 01:37:33.840
it could it could slam shot.
I go back to the conversation we

1088
01:37:33.920 --> 01:37:38.039
had yesterday. I said to you
the two thousand and six all seven Tigers,

1089
01:37:38.159 --> 01:37:42.039
right, I always look at Jim
Leland and Dan Campbell is the same

1090
01:37:42.119 --> 01:37:44.960
person. They know how to manipulate
the media. They know how to talk

1091
01:37:45.039 --> 01:37:48.319
to the media and motivate their players. That's what they do that makes that's

1092
01:37:48.319 --> 01:37:53.640
what makes them great. Now you
the old six Tigers, they blew it,

1093
01:37:54.279 --> 01:37:58.920
dance chanced. Those these chances don't
come along in life, not just

1094
01:37:58.960 --> 01:38:01.239
sports. In life, when it
comes around, you gotta grab it because

1095
01:38:01.239 --> 01:38:05.319
you're never guaranteed. And the Old
six Tigers are proof of that. And

1096
01:38:05.960 --> 01:38:11.039
I'm not saying this team is well. Even Dan Campbell said at the end

1097
01:38:11.079 --> 01:38:13.439
of the year last year. It's
not gonna be easy, boys. And

1098
01:38:13.520 --> 01:38:15.600
when you get that chance, you
gotta grab it. And if you don't,

1099
01:38:16.039 --> 01:38:19.159
it's gonna take a long while before
it comes along. So go get

1100
01:38:19.199 --> 01:38:23.439
that super Bowl. Just shut everybody
up, because this town deserves it.

1101
01:38:24.199 --> 01:38:26.600
I like your Tiger analogy. You
know, thanks Freddie. You know,

1102
01:38:26.680 --> 01:38:30.039
in two thousand and seven it was
a collapse, and then remember there was

1103
01:38:30.119 --> 01:38:33.239
the tie breaker game with the Twins. That felt like it was all over.

1104
01:38:33.640 --> 01:38:36.600
But what did they do? They
made some key moves. They had

1105
01:38:36.640 --> 01:38:42.840
a core, including Justin Verlander at
the top there. But then they got

1106
01:38:42.920 --> 01:38:48.199
Cabrera and they look. They made
it to the Alcs in twenty eleven,

1107
01:38:48.880 --> 01:38:54.960
in twenty twelve, they made it
to the World Series in twenty twelve.

1108
01:38:55.039 --> 01:38:58.199
They were back. They were right
there. They should have I can't say

1109
01:38:58.239 --> 01:39:00.640
they should have won, they were
I thought that they were gonna win.

1110
01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:04.680
But the point is is that it
wasn't over for them. The Tigers did

1111
01:39:04.800 --> 01:39:11.159
have that window. It wasn't two
thousand and seven wasn't a World Series or

1112
01:39:11.319 --> 01:39:15.439
bust for the Tigers. A little
bit of a if you can squeeze it

1113
01:39:15.520 --> 01:39:18.239
in. And we're comparing baseball to
football. As much as that's hard to

1114
01:39:18.319 --> 01:39:23.520
do, I think that that's the
part that I look to spin a little

1115
01:39:23.520 --> 01:39:27.520
bit forward. The Tigers did have
other opportunities. Good job, Freddie will

1116
01:39:27.560 --> 01:39:36.720
continue on talking about the Lions and
the Super Bowl and their most outstanding player,

1117
01:39:36.760 --> 01:39:41.359
their most improved player, and the
player that is on a mission.

1118
01:39:41.399 --> 01:39:45.600
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Does it feel like the holiday weekend because

1125
01:40:43.239 --> 01:40:49.399
it's here? Memorial Weekend twenty four
Dennis Fithian inn for Matt Shephard this morning

1126
01:40:50.079 --> 01:40:54.279
the Michigan Sports Network. We're taking
your calls, but talking about the Lions

1127
01:40:54.680 --> 01:41:00.479
a lot. It's one of those
days where you have the Lions yesterday.

1128
01:41:00.560 --> 01:41:03.960
Dan Campbell, their head coach,
was asked if it's super Bowl or bust

1129
01:41:04.039 --> 01:41:09.159
at OTA's in a news conference there, and he said he doesn't see buss,

1130
01:41:09.319 --> 01:41:15.880
you see super Bowl. And then
he was like ll cool J and

1131
01:41:15.960 --> 01:41:23.680
that beer commercial busted through the apartment
in that train. Dan Campbell when he

1132
01:41:23.760 --> 01:41:28.880
came in and said, I have
our most improved player, this Jamison Williams.

1133
01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:39.319
And then he hit the horn and
everyone who went crazy when he said

1134
01:41:40.760 --> 01:41:45.039
he's a man on a mission.
Now, you know, what are your

1135
01:41:45.119 --> 01:41:51.479
expectations for Jamison Williams? And if
you if you just looked at the numbers

1136
01:41:53.720 --> 01:41:56.479
for his first two years, now
he was hurt and then he was suspended,

1137
01:41:56.640 --> 01:42:00.319
and it's not good for a wide
receiver that taken in the top fifteen

1138
01:42:00.399 --> 01:42:05.079
of the NFL draft when you look
historically. But you do have to put

1139
01:42:05.239 --> 01:42:10.560
those two factors in. If you
look at the negative side, there's you

1140
01:42:10.600 --> 01:42:16.159
know, he has been more times
than not considered a bust or been on

1141
01:42:16.279 --> 01:42:20.640
a bust trajectory than he has any
kind of you know, superstar. But

1142
01:42:20.960 --> 01:42:26.079
you know the thing is, you
know he doesn't have to be a superstar.

1143
01:42:29.119 --> 01:42:30.920
You pick a guy in the first
round with the idea that, yeah,

1144
01:42:31.000 --> 01:42:39.079
he's going to be a superstar.
But what we have seen are big

1145
01:42:39.199 --> 01:42:46.479
drops in big spots. But we
have also seen flashes of a brilliance and

1146
01:42:48.119 --> 01:42:54.399
so much so for me. And
I don't even remember the game. I've

1147
01:42:54.640 --> 01:43:03.760
referenced it earlier. It was an
end around where he scored a touchdown and

1148
01:43:03.840 --> 01:43:08.720
on like the five yard line.
He do He didn't need to, but

1149
01:43:08.840 --> 01:43:16.960
he did, and it looked like
he jumped from the fifteen yard line and

1150
01:43:17.079 --> 01:43:20.760
it looked like he jumped like fifteen
feet in the air. It was.

1151
01:43:23.960 --> 01:43:28.479
It was one of those moments,
one of the things you love about sports.

1152
01:43:28.520 --> 01:43:30.760
Sometimes you're watching it and just like, what did I just see?

1153
01:43:31.600 --> 01:43:40.640
I'm watching just some incredible talent.
So he's got that and he is in

1154
01:43:40.760 --> 01:43:45.479
the perfect position you know, who
reminds me of And we take your calls.

1155
01:43:45.479 --> 01:43:48.800
See we're gonna talk some tigers coming
up in just over ten minutes.

1156
01:43:51.720 --> 01:43:54.640
And you know the numbers, let
me give it to you. Eight six

1157
01:43:54.720 --> 01:43:57.960
six eight three eight forty eight forty
three. That's the Meyer hot line.

1158
01:43:58.479 --> 01:44:03.920
Eight six six eight three eight forty
eight forty three. You could text us

1159
01:44:03.960 --> 01:44:09.359
by typing in Sports Radio one word
to twenty one thousand, you get the

1160
01:44:09.439 --> 01:44:13.840
prompt you can get in that way. He reminds me, I'm thinking of

1161
01:44:14.000 --> 01:44:20.399
Rashid Wallace, the former Piston.
They going to work Piston who won a

1162
01:44:20.520 --> 01:44:27.359
championship. If I went for Rashid
Wallace, they wouldn't have won the championship.

1163
01:44:27.399 --> 01:44:29.680
But if we went for Rashid Wallace, they you know, they could

1164
01:44:29.680 --> 01:44:31.840
have won two championships. I field
of guarded Robert Riy, but you know

1165
01:44:31.880 --> 01:44:35.560
that's not what I'm here to talk
about. But Rashid when he was out

1166
01:44:35.680 --> 01:44:44.479
with the jail Blazers, now it
is loud mouth getting thrown out, smoked

1167
01:44:44.520 --> 01:44:47.560
his way off. You know,
he suspend all of these things, ejections

1168
01:44:47.640 --> 01:44:53.840
left and right. He just wasn't
that guy to lead you to where you

1169
01:44:54.000 --> 01:44:58.439
wanted. The awesome player, great
talent, all of those kind of things,

1170
01:44:58.479 --> 01:45:03.199
but just it just wasn't He couldn't
be that guy. And he got

1171
01:45:03.239 --> 01:45:10.600
into the Pistons where you know who
could be that guy, Mister big shot

1172
01:45:11.439 --> 01:45:15.720
Ben Wallace could be that guy,
and he fit in with with Tayshaun and

1173
01:45:16.239 --> 01:45:23.840
ripped perfectly. He didn't have to
be the leader. He didn't have to

1174
01:45:23.920 --> 01:45:27.319
be the guy down of the post. He didn't. He just he was

1175
01:45:27.439 --> 01:45:32.119
able just to do all of the
things that he could do. He actually

1176
01:45:32.159 --> 01:45:35.479
could go down to the post.
He was great on defense and you know

1177
01:45:35.600 --> 01:45:40.960
you he could knock down for he
was an incredible player and it just it

1178
01:45:41.119 --> 01:45:45.239
brought out all of the best things. And that's the position that Jamison Williams

1179
01:45:45.319 --> 01:45:47.880
in. I'm sure somebody had to
tell him and they look at you are

1180
01:45:48.079 --> 01:45:51.840
in just an incredible spot. You
got all the party, you got Brown,

1181
01:45:51.880 --> 01:45:57.760
you got everything that with his offense
and you can put them over the

1182
01:45:57.920 --> 01:46:05.159
top. I'm looking on Twitter and
it's been a good two days on Twitter.

1183
01:46:08.079 --> 01:46:14.840
Terry has been involved on Twitter.
And here I have a tweet from

1184
01:46:15.279 --> 01:46:21.800
FTP who was talking about Jamison Williams
and he says, Teddy Bridgewater was brought

1185
01:46:21.920 --> 01:46:27.199
in to mentor this kid. It's
talking about Jamison Williams. He said so

1186
01:46:27.439 --> 01:46:31.640
at his presser and Teddy and Jamo
himself did a wonderful job turning around the

1187
01:46:31.720 --> 01:46:40.800
first two years of off the field
stuff. Kudos to both. Yeah,

1188
01:46:40.840 --> 01:46:45.000
old Teddy two gloves. He didn't
do much on the field, but the

1189
01:46:45.119 --> 01:46:50.760
off the field stuff. Last week
I saw him throwing as is a high

1190
01:46:50.800 --> 01:46:55.760
school coach. Now, it's throwing
balls for high school kids. Not a

1191
01:46:55.840 --> 01:47:01.960
surprise from Teddy two Gloves like to
see that. And if is a part

1192
01:47:02.000 --> 01:47:09.479
of it, just being able to
turn around the off the field stuff,

1193
01:47:09.680 --> 01:47:12.239
I mean, the off the field
stuff. What are we talking about here?

1194
01:47:12.319 --> 01:47:16.319
We're talking about he got hurt.
I like, so I'm not holding

1195
01:47:16.359 --> 01:47:23.399
out against him. The suspension.
Yeah, you got to be better than

1196
01:47:23.439 --> 01:47:28.680
that. You're the other players.
You know, he could have been out

1197
01:47:28.720 --> 01:47:31.359
of here if and you know,
so, if that's a strike or two

1198
01:47:31.399 --> 01:47:36.079
strikes, whatever it was, I'm
not getting on him because he, you

1199
01:47:36.159 --> 01:47:41.000
know, likes to eat at McDonald's
or go down to a Coney Island in

1200
01:47:41.079 --> 01:47:44.159
the city, which you know,
some people it seemed like they were,

1201
01:47:45.039 --> 01:47:49.760
you know, or had something needed
something to talk about there. But give

1202
01:47:49.840 --> 01:48:00.079
me that guy feeling good about himself
and his life on the football field with

1203
01:48:00.159 --> 01:48:02.359
a ball in his hand and if
he can't catch it, hand it off

1204
01:48:02.439 --> 01:48:09.600
to him. Because he's that kind
of special talent. I don't want to

1205
01:48:09.640 --> 01:48:16.000
go overboard. But if we're lining
up talent wise, the hundred greatest receivers

1206
01:48:16.039 --> 01:48:21.079
in NFL history, just talent Jamison
Williams is going to be up close to

1207
01:48:21.159 --> 01:48:24.960
the front of that line. Now. I know he's you know, he

1208
01:48:25.039 --> 01:48:30.439
has not shown very much uh production
on the field twenty four catches a couple

1209
01:48:30.479 --> 01:48:34.039
of TVs last year, you know, just over three hundred yards. And

1210
01:48:34.119 --> 01:48:41.840
you know what he's he's also a
bust. You know what about talent playmaking?

1211
01:48:42.920 --> 01:48:47.199
You know that's where it's at when
it comes down to uh JMO.

1212
01:48:49.359 --> 01:48:56.560
All right, I wanted to give
this to you on this Memorial weekend.

1213
01:48:56.680 --> 01:48:59.239
If you're you know, you're not
going to watch basketball, you're not gonna

1214
01:48:59.239 --> 01:49:03.560
watch hockey. You might want to
on a Memorial weekend take in a war

1215
01:49:03.760 --> 01:49:10.600
movie and just for your viewing pleasure, I have three of them for you

1216
01:49:10.760 --> 01:49:15.840
that are available if you have Netflix
and if you have not watched any of

1217
01:49:15.960 --> 01:49:20.239
these. I liked all three.
Number one on the list. It's called

1218
01:49:20.399 --> 01:49:25.279
The Forgotten Battle Again. These are
all on Netflix. This is one of

1219
01:49:25.359 --> 01:49:29.640
the best war movies I have seen
in the last ten years. It is

1220
01:49:30.399 --> 01:49:34.359
in the marshes of World War Two
and the Netherlands. I give it a

1221
01:49:34.439 --> 01:49:40.079
total thumbs up. All Quiet on
the Western Front is also there on Netflix.

1222
01:49:40.119 --> 01:49:44.000
It got cashed in on some awards. It's very gory, so you

1223
01:49:44.079 --> 01:49:48.239
have you don't like. It's a
war movie, but very gory but good.

1224
01:49:49.159 --> 01:49:53.680
And then Narvik also gets the nod
for me as a thumbs up,

1225
01:49:53.760 --> 01:49:58.960
one that I wouldn't actually think,
but I'm pleasantly surprised, and I gave

1226
01:49:59.039 --> 01:50:01.399
that a thumbs up. There are
three war movies right there on Netflix.

1227
01:50:01.720 --> 01:50:04.359
Check all those three out. I
think you'd like all three of those.

1228
01:50:04.640 --> 01:50:11.960
Little tip for me on this Memorial
weekend. Oh you wanna tip on how

1229
01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:15.720
to cook a steak? Okay,
I don't have to. Maybe next time

1230
01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:19.039
when I join you. Coming up
straight ahead, we'll talks some Tigers with

1231
01:50:19.159 --> 01:50:24.000
Tom Gaates, the longtime beat writer. Next on the Michigan Sports Network,

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It can take years for a young
left handed hit or to learn to hit

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lefties in the major leagues, but
Cold Keith is making rapid progress. A

1239
01:50:56.159 --> 01:50:59.680
J. Hinch has been very careful
which lefties Keith gets to base. Then,

1240
01:50:59.760 --> 01:51:02.399
after going on an eleven for eighteen
tear, Hehn said, Keith earned

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01:51:02.439 --> 01:51:05.600
that start against very tough Cole Reagans
in Kansas City. Now, Keith was

1242
01:51:05.640 --> 01:51:09.359
over two against Reagans, but he
drew a walk ahead a single against two

1243
01:51:09.439 --> 01:51:13.000
lefty relievers. More than anything,
he showed he can hang in against tough

1244
01:51:13.079 --> 01:51:16.159
lefties. He says facing a hard
throwing lefty actually helps him because it forces

1245
01:51:16.239 --> 01:51:20.039
him to really focus on his hitting
keys making better against writings, and it

1246
01:51:20.119 --> 01:51:26.720
looks like Cold Keith might be about
to take off. Hey Michigan, let's

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eight thirty five in the morning across
the state of Michigan on the Michigan

1254
01:52:11.920 --> 01:52:17.960
Sports Network, Dennis fit the in
in for Matt Shepherd on X's and Bros.

1255
01:52:19.560 --> 01:52:21.880
Hey, you can make all the
jokes you want about the power outage

1256
01:52:21.960 --> 01:52:27.960
last night at Comerica Park, but
there was a power outage in the booth

1257
01:52:28.199 --> 01:52:33.039
and on the scoreboard for the Tigers. They get beat nine to one.

1258
01:52:33.479 --> 01:52:39.399
You probably know that by now,
as well as them losing their fifth game

1259
01:52:39.439 --> 01:52:43.319
in a row. But they got
a lot of ball games to play.

1260
01:52:43.760 --> 01:52:46.119
That's all you can say. If
you're looking for that silver lining. We're

1261
01:52:46.279 --> 01:52:51.680
ready to there's another silver lining as
we're ready to talk some Tigers baseball with

1262
01:52:53.239 --> 01:52:58.760
a long time Tigers a beat writer, Tom Gage, who joins us on

1263
01:52:59.000 --> 01:53:01.600
the line on is in Bros.
Live this morning. Tom, How are

1264
01:53:01.680 --> 01:53:06.720
you? How are you? Oh? I'm doing great, you know,

1265
01:53:06.880 --> 01:53:10.960
Tom. The only thing that would
have been more perfect at talking with you

1266
01:53:11.039 --> 01:53:14.399
on the radio if it would have
been right at game forty, but having

1267
01:53:14.479 --> 01:53:17.079
you around Game forty. It was
game fifty yesterday, as you know.

1268
01:53:17.279 --> 01:53:21.159
But you know it's been forty years
as the Tigers, well, the World

1269
01:53:21.279 --> 01:53:27.000
Series and that that forty you know
that that game start H thirty five and

1270
01:53:27.079 --> 01:53:29.560
five and all that, which we'll
get to, but you know, I

1271
01:53:29.680 --> 01:53:33.800
wanted to start you out with H
that forty game. Marcus Is. It's

1272
01:53:33.880 --> 01:53:38.319
in Tiger's lore that Sparky said that
you can't judge a team after forty.

1273
01:53:38.800 --> 01:53:42.159
Did he actually say that or was
he just kicking the can down the road

1274
01:53:42.199 --> 01:53:45.159
to you guys. No, Dennis, he actually said that, and he

1275
01:53:45.439 --> 01:53:50.880
and and with Sparky, he usually
didn't say things just once. He said

1276
01:53:50.920 --> 01:53:55.720
them many times. So I think
he probably said it every year that he

1277
01:53:55.880 --> 01:54:01.760
was the manager. But he believed
in forty, I know. And that's

1278
01:54:01.840 --> 01:54:06.000
probably because he didn't believe in thirty. It was one month. Was just

1279
01:54:06.159 --> 01:54:13.239
too fast to judge a team.
So forty is a good measure, I

1280
01:54:13.359 --> 01:54:17.960
think, in my opinion, it's
still a little short of being able to

1281
01:54:18.079 --> 01:54:26.119
judge a team. I think where
the Tigers are right now at fifty games

1282
01:54:27.199 --> 01:54:34.359
is a better measure because you show
your true colors. By fifty you've had

1283
01:54:34.439 --> 01:54:38.640
some ups you've had some downs,
and now you're begin to settle in.

1284
01:54:39.119 --> 01:54:43.000
I hope the Tigers aren't beginning to
settle in because they're not playing well.

1285
01:54:43.520 --> 01:54:48.479
But yeah, you know, I'm
a little bit worried about that offense,

1286
01:54:49.159 --> 01:54:54.680
as people should be. They just
don't score enough runs to support their pitching,

1287
01:54:54.720 --> 01:55:00.800
as you know. But you know, Sparky Party did leave in forty

1288
01:55:00.920 --> 01:55:03.439
games, and he said so often. You know, what happens to me

1289
01:55:03.520 --> 01:55:08.119
every year is that there's a team
that gets off to an incredible start.

1290
01:55:08.199 --> 01:55:12.640
And this year it's the Phillies and
they're thirty seven and fourteen right now,

1291
01:55:12.840 --> 01:55:15.399
they've you know, they've won six
in a row. They're nine and one

1292
01:55:15.479 --> 01:55:18.800
in their last ten. But then
you tell people like, yeah, it's

1293
01:55:18.840 --> 01:55:23.119
incredible, but you know, thirty
five and five, you know that was

1294
01:55:23.239 --> 01:55:26.159
incredible. We're gonna get a little
bit more of that, you know.

1295
01:55:26.439 --> 01:55:30.560
I was Jim Leland back in two
thousand and six. As you know,

1296
01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:33.880
I don't remember what the game mark
was. I think they had lost to

1297
01:55:33.960 --> 01:55:38.079
Cleveland and they were getting ready to
fly out to the West coast, and

1298
01:55:38.199 --> 01:55:43.600
he tore into his team and the
postgame media session he wasn't gonna stand for

1299
01:55:43.720 --> 01:55:45.399
this, and they got a lot
of criticism right off the bat, like

1300
01:55:45.680 --> 01:55:49.279
like this guy's just coming in and
he's he's, you know, putting his

1301
01:55:49.359 --> 01:55:54.239
team on blast that quickly. I
say that, Tom, because we had

1302
01:55:54.279 --> 01:55:59.720
a caller earlier who said it was
time to see some emotion from aj Hitch.

1303
01:56:00.079 --> 01:56:03.560
He wanted a rant, he wanted
on a turnover the table spread or

1304
01:56:03.640 --> 01:56:10.000
something. Do you think that that
could be in the offing here for AJ

1305
01:56:10.279 --> 01:56:14.319
Hintch, some kind of outburst or
something. Well, Dennis, I think

1306
01:56:14.359 --> 01:56:15.960
it should be in the aufering,
but I'm not sure it is in the

1307
01:56:16.039 --> 01:56:20.760
auten because I don't know Aj that
well. I covered him a little bit

1308
01:56:20.800 --> 01:56:25.560
as a player, but I haven't
covered him as a manager. But he

1309
01:56:25.720 --> 01:56:31.640
seems very methodical and very very He
keeps his emotions pretty contained. I understand

1310
01:56:31.720 --> 01:56:36.600
he got upset the other day when
somebody said the Tigers hadn't been competitive in

1311
01:56:36.680 --> 01:56:42.039
the game, and I think that's
too bad because he limits you know,

1312
01:56:42.399 --> 01:56:47.479
he limits the media access to his
coaches. And if you're the only part

1313
01:56:47.560 --> 01:56:54.000
of the coaching staff and managing staff
that you allow the media to have access

1314
01:56:54.079 --> 01:56:59.119
to, I think you need to
show up and not get and not get

1315
01:56:59.239 --> 01:57:03.199
upset at the question. I don't
think the I know the big writer of

1316
01:57:03.319 --> 01:57:08.600
the Tigers now, I know them
well, and you know they're professional,

1317
01:57:09.039 --> 01:57:14.720
They're not gotcha. They're not a
crew that asks a lot of gotcha questions.

1318
01:57:15.239 --> 01:57:18.039
So I think media. I think
a J. Hinch has it has

1319
01:57:18.199 --> 01:57:23.520
a nice situation here in Detroit with
the media. Yeah. Well, I

1320
01:57:23.600 --> 01:57:26.760
know some of those guys of the
radio actually are gotcha kind of guys,

1321
01:57:27.000 --> 01:57:33.399
probably the one that threw that question
at him. So if you're looking for

1322
01:57:33.479 --> 01:57:38.600
a silver lining, if it's for
the rest of this year or just moving

1323
01:57:38.800 --> 01:57:43.119
forward for the Tigers, what would
you point to you You've seen so many,

1324
01:57:43.319 --> 01:57:47.399
you know, the seasons and then
transitions and new general managers, and

1325
01:57:47.600 --> 01:57:54.560
obviously the Tigers have Scott Harris who's
just in his second full season. He's

1326
01:57:54.600 --> 01:57:57.800
a young guy with thirty six thirty
seven years old, but they've got a

1327
01:57:57.840 --> 01:58:02.000
low payroll. Is there what would
you point to as a silver lining ahead

1328
01:58:02.039 --> 01:58:06.159
for this team? Well? I
do think that they've developed some solid players

1329
01:58:06.279 --> 01:58:11.680
within the lineup, and the carpenter
is proving to be a good, solid

1330
01:58:11.760 --> 01:58:17.239
hitter, and you know, they've
done a good job and picking up some

1331
01:58:17.399 --> 01:58:24.279
of the pieces to fill in people
like Abanyas and Ershula, and those are

1332
01:58:24.520 --> 01:58:29.680
very important players at the pickup.
Brshel Was, I think quite important and

1333
01:58:29.840 --> 01:58:34.560
Flaherty. You know, the pitching
staff has been to me, the starting

1334
01:58:34.680 --> 01:58:42.960
rotation has been outstanding with Flarerity and
and Olsen and they but I imagine they're

1335
01:58:43.000 --> 01:58:45.760
getting a little bit impatient right now
because they don't get any runs to work

1336
01:58:45.840 --> 01:58:49.239
with. You know, schoobol Is
school is going to be a star,

1337
01:58:49.960 --> 01:58:54.119
and I think you could see that
a couple of years ago. He just

1338
01:58:54.279 --> 01:59:00.600
has the stuff to win. And
but you know, I've seen Flaherty pitching

1339
01:59:00.680 --> 01:59:04.319
person a couple of times. I
know, I know he had problems a

1340
01:59:04.399 --> 01:59:09.359
little while ago, not this year, but in the past. But he's

1341
01:59:09.479 --> 01:59:13.920
throwing very well and I'm very impressed
with him. So I think they're I

1342
01:59:14.000 --> 01:59:17.840
think there are good building blocks for
the Tigers. They just don't have the

1343
01:59:18.000 --> 01:59:23.159
core of that offense. And the
guys that are letting them down, of

1344
01:59:23.279 --> 01:59:27.760
course, are the young players,
Tor Wolson and Riley Green. You know,

1345
01:59:28.079 --> 01:59:32.039
everybody likes the praise, right Riley
Green and do us deservedly so because

1346
01:59:32.039 --> 01:59:36.640
he has a lot of rod talent
right now, he's not playing very well.

1347
01:59:38.680 --> 01:59:43.199
Yeah, is that right? We
got Tom Gage with us for a

1348
01:59:43.319 --> 01:59:45.720
few more minutes. Tom, I
want to go back. You know you've

1349
01:59:45.760 --> 01:59:49.960
written a few books. You've got
your fourth out right now, or it's

1350
01:59:50.039 --> 01:59:55.439
going to be out the Enchanted Season. You wrote this with Lance Parrish about

1351
01:59:55.880 --> 02:00:00.399
the nineteen eighty four team. I've
already referenced them a few times. Tell

1352
02:00:00.439 --> 02:00:06.199
me a little bit about you know, this this particular book and working with

1353
02:00:06.359 --> 02:00:11.640
Lance. What was it like.
No, I knew Lance very well as

1354
02:00:11.680 --> 02:00:17.960
a player. I also knew that
he was rather contained with his comments and

1355
02:00:18.600 --> 02:00:25.840
and his emotion. And when the
publisher suggested this book for the two for

1356
02:00:26.000 --> 02:00:30.359
the fortieth anniversary, I wasn't sure
how how much I was going to be

1357
02:00:30.399 --> 02:00:33.279
able to get out of him,
but it was. It turned out to

1358
02:00:33.319 --> 02:00:40.479
be a true delight working with Lance
because he tried so hard to remember the

1359
02:00:40.560 --> 02:00:45.960
bits and pieces and and you know, the the major things and even some

1360
02:00:45.119 --> 02:00:50.720
of the minor components of that season. So we would have a couple of

1361
02:00:50.840 --> 02:00:58.880
conversations each week and as we want
through the different chapters, and again,

1362
02:00:59.000 --> 02:01:03.640
I really enjoyed working with a Lance. He's a quality individual, and I

1363
02:01:03.800 --> 02:01:11.000
want to stress again, Dennis,
he tried very hard to remember what nineteen

1364
02:01:11.039 --> 02:01:15.119
eighty four was like and also the
other terms of his career. You know

1365
02:01:15.560 --> 02:01:23.399
too, might still go with Ben. Excuse me, what was that?

1366
02:01:24.560 --> 02:01:27.239
No, I didn't hear you.
Oh yeah, I cut out for a

1367
02:01:27.319 --> 02:01:30.359
second. I'm stary. We're good. It was just right there at the

1368
02:01:30.520 --> 02:01:36.279
end of you talking about Lance.
That's good, you know for my generation.

1369
02:01:36.399 --> 02:01:40.640
I was in high school, you
know, so they bless you boys.

1370
02:01:40.720 --> 02:01:44.520
I had them. But you know, growing up with every one of

1371
02:01:44.560 --> 02:01:49.119
my uncles talking about the sixty eight
team, you know, I knew everything

1372
02:01:49.399 --> 02:01:54.479
like that wasn't a chant of team. I knew all of it. And

1373
02:01:54.600 --> 02:01:57.520
then it seemed like I was doing
the same thing with eighty four. And

1374
02:01:57.600 --> 02:02:01.439
the Tigers had their shot obviously,
and what twenty thirteen, you know,

1375
02:02:01.560 --> 02:02:05.239
getting to the World Series. It
would have been great, obviously if they

1376
02:02:05.279 --> 02:02:09.199
would have been able to you know, capture another one. But you do

1377
02:02:09.359 --> 02:02:13.479
go back and now it's just,
you know, to reminisce about eighty four

1378
02:02:14.159 --> 02:02:16.600
almost each and every player, just
how this thing was put together. But

1379
02:02:16.880 --> 02:02:20.079
Tom, take me back to the
forty game. Mark, are you sitting

1380
02:02:20.119 --> 02:02:24.079
there and you're thinking, there's no
way that this team. Now we were

1381
02:02:24.199 --> 02:02:30.000
talking about the Lions this morning about
is a championship or bust. When you

1382
02:02:30.199 --> 02:02:34.079
got to the point where it was
the forty gay mark, was it a

1383
02:02:34.199 --> 02:02:36.920
realization that this team is gonna win
the World Series? There is this going

1384
02:02:38.000 --> 02:02:41.720
to be a major disappointment? Well, when when you got to the forty

1385
02:02:41.800 --> 02:02:46.680
game mark, and of course that
was in Seattle and they lost the you

1386
02:02:46.760 --> 02:02:51.520
know, got sworped in this series. Here, I remember the team being

1387
02:02:51.760 --> 02:02:58.079
just they weren't basking in the glory
of being thirty five and five. I

1388
02:02:58.119 --> 02:03:02.399
mean Sparky had that. I ope
the conversation. The night before that,

1389
02:03:02.760 --> 02:03:09.399
the last game in Anaheim before they
went to Seattle, Sparky was at the

1390
02:03:09.479 --> 02:03:14.000
team hotel and a guy from Dayton
came up to him and said, Sparky

1391
02:03:14.079 --> 02:03:17.119
Anderson, boy, I'm from Dayton
and I remember your big red Machine teams.

1392
02:03:17.880 --> 02:03:24.000
By the way, what are you
doing now? And Sparky said,

1393
02:03:24.039 --> 02:03:28.199
here I was. I had the
hottest team in the major leagues. And

1394
02:03:29.079 --> 02:03:32.439
a guy who supposedly was a fan
of mine comes up and asks me what

1395
02:03:32.600 --> 02:03:36.079
am I doing now? And he
said it was a you know It just

1396
02:03:36.199 --> 02:03:43.000
put me in my place and it
reminded me that you know, we we

1397
02:03:43.800 --> 02:03:47.520
were thirty four and five at the
time, but it really hadn't accomplished anything.

1398
02:03:47.920 --> 02:03:54.680
So Sparky had the mindset at thirty
five and five that you better not

1399
02:03:54.920 --> 02:03:58.920
let any grass grow under your feet. You had to keep pressing, and

1400
02:03:59.039 --> 02:04:02.640
the Tigers did. Uh. For
throughout the summer, I didn't play as

1401
02:04:02.680 --> 02:04:08.880
well as they began the season.
Toronto was on their heels. They had

1402
02:04:08.960 --> 02:04:12.960
to play hard, and it wasn't
really until September that they put it away.

1403
02:04:13.520 --> 02:04:16.000
But this summer was a great test
for them and that's where they proved

1404
02:04:16.039 --> 02:04:20.680
their their quality of the team.
Oh and it came to Smarky and I

1405
02:04:20.840 --> 02:04:25.520
was thinking about eighty four. I
think, if you know, there's so

1406
02:04:25.600 --> 02:04:29.439
many different things to talk about.
But the the audio of the World Series

1407
02:04:29.479 --> 02:04:32.079
when they had Goose Gossage and uh, it was it Dick Williams who went

1408
02:04:32.079 --> 02:04:35.319
out to the mound and they're having
the conversation and then you know, they

1409
02:04:35.359 --> 02:04:39.199
show Smarty and they got young Gibby, who's you know, he's the cage

1410
02:04:39.319 --> 02:04:42.920
lion over there and he knew how
to you know, poke and produm and

1411
02:04:42.960 --> 02:04:45.359
everything, and they've got the audio. You know, they don't want to

1412
02:04:45.399 --> 02:04:47.319
walk you. And of course he
hits the home run, which is you

1413
02:04:47.399 --> 02:04:51.159
know, it's so famous and it
was so great. I think like the

1414
02:04:51.319 --> 02:04:56.159
question here is is that how come
we didn't hear more, whether it was

1415
02:04:56.199 --> 02:05:01.399
even in that World Series or anywhere. Sparky was omnipresident on TV back in

1416
02:05:01.479 --> 02:05:04.520
the eighties. I mean, he
would you felt like you knew him all

1417
02:05:04.600 --> 02:05:08.399
the time. But just that audio
on the field, I'd never heard anything

1418
02:05:08.439 --> 02:05:12.640
else. And but that clip was
so great, you know, from from

1419
02:05:12.720 --> 02:05:15.159
Sparky with with Giving in the World
Series. Oh, it sure was.

1420
02:05:15.239 --> 02:05:19.920
When Gibson had to play betting Sparky
ten dollars that he was going to take

1421
02:05:20.000 --> 02:05:26.239
out he was going to hit one
off of Gossage and Sparky not believe in

1422
02:05:26.319 --> 02:05:30.640
it. But you know, Sparky
was in his uniform, he was Sparky

1423
02:05:30.720 --> 02:05:36.319
Anderson. In his away from the
uniform, he was George Anderson. So

1424
02:05:36.520 --> 02:05:42.119
he was he was really two people
in one. He really knew how to

1425
02:05:42.239 --> 02:05:47.079
turn on the charm and the personality
when he was when he was in baseball

1426
02:05:47.239 --> 02:05:53.760
mode, but when he was George
Anderson, he was just really the skill,

1427
02:05:53.840 --> 02:05:58.199
the kid from South Dakota. And
that's what made him so interesting.

1428
02:05:58.640 --> 02:06:02.479
You know that the two the two
people in one. He didn't he didn't

1429
02:06:02.520 --> 02:06:06.880
allow you to call call him George
unless you were his friend or his or

1430
02:06:08.000 --> 02:06:12.239
a relative. I never called him
George. I called him Sparky and uh,

1431
02:06:12.600 --> 02:06:16.279
but I really had great admiration for
him, not just as a manager,

1432
02:06:16.399 --> 02:06:19.800
but as a person. And you
know, he did such great things

1433
02:06:19.880 --> 02:06:26.159
for Detroit with the charity catch and
uh he really wanted to give back to

1434
02:06:26.239 --> 02:06:30.279
the city. So uh, you
know, he he was just a very

1435
02:06:30.560 --> 02:06:35.239
memorable individual. A couple of minutes
there with with Tom Gage, Uh,

1436
02:06:35.359 --> 02:06:39.560
I loved you know you've covered it
all though, but it's just as a

1437
02:06:39.640 --> 02:06:43.000
youngster, you'd always remember going to
the game, you know here what Sparky

1438
02:06:43.079 --> 02:06:46.119
would come out or I think that
was did he have the nickname, uh

1439
02:06:46.319 --> 02:06:48.720
Captain hook, you know, to
get his pitcher. But he would never

1440
02:06:49.279 --> 02:06:53.079
he always made sure that he would
not. He had the superstition of not

1441
02:06:53.399 --> 02:06:58.680
stepping on the baseline. I sad
have been the third baseline there at uh

1442
02:06:59.560 --> 02:07:03.479
by right Tiger Stadium, third ane, and I remember it. If they

1443
02:07:03.520 --> 02:07:06.840
were losing and the crowd was bullying, and he used to he used to

1444
02:07:08.000 --> 02:07:13.720
stop on the way back to the
dead Note and let people get express their

1445
02:07:13.840 --> 02:07:17.920
emotion because he thought they he said, they were paying customers. You know,

1446
02:07:18.159 --> 02:07:20.760
we were sticking up the joint.
They had it, they had the

1447
02:07:20.880 --> 02:07:26.199
right to express their opinion. Tom, let me give you a couple of

1448
02:07:26.239 --> 02:07:29.279
quick hitters. You know, you're
a member of the Michigan Sports Hall of

1449
02:07:29.359 --> 02:07:31.279
Fame. I've I've been to one
of those banquets. Those are that's an

1450
02:07:31.319 --> 02:07:35.359
awesome time. But a couple of
years ago, the Baseball Writers award you

1451
02:07:35.600 --> 02:07:41.479
with the with the spink and you're
presented that at the Cooperstown or the Baseball

1452
02:07:41.560 --> 02:07:45.680
Hall of Fame. That's got to
be at the very top of the list.

1453
02:07:45.199 --> 02:07:51.640
What's it like for you as a
long time baseball scribe to you know,

1454
02:07:51.760 --> 02:07:58.119
have your name there at Cooperstown among
all the greats, oh Dennis.

1455
02:07:58.199 --> 02:08:01.800
It was a thrill of a lifetime
because that was before COVID, so they

1456
02:08:03.359 --> 02:08:11.159
the Hall of Fame observed the would
present the award at Doubleday Field right downtown,

1457
02:08:11.319 --> 02:08:15.720
so you had to have a big
crowd there and the Hall of Famers

1458
02:08:15.760 --> 02:08:20.319
would sit on the in the chairs
behind you, and it was just I

1459
02:08:20.399 --> 02:08:24.680
mean, you really, I mean, you don't become a Hall of Famer

1460
02:08:24.279 --> 02:08:30.039
just because you win the Sprink Award. You're not inducted, but they treat

1461
02:08:30.119 --> 02:08:33.000
you like a Hall of Famer.
And again it was it was a huge,

1462
02:08:33.079 --> 02:08:39.000
huge thrill. And I remember when
I was done with my speech and

1463
02:08:39.239 --> 02:08:45.119
you know, the Hall of Famers
were congratulating me, and one man came

1464
02:08:45.199 --> 02:08:50.319
across the stage and I said,
Oh, is he coming over to talk

1465
02:08:50.399 --> 02:08:56.279
to me? And he did,
and he was. He was the man

1466
02:08:56.359 --> 02:09:01.079
who expressed the most I think sincere
congratulations for the speech I'd just given.

1467
02:09:01.560 --> 02:09:07.760
And and uh it uh, you
know it was Sandy Kofax, and you

1468
02:09:07.840 --> 02:09:11.640
know that was just a great,
great honor. And I you know,

1469
02:09:11.119 --> 02:09:16.159
again meeting meeting the Hall of Famers, uh, and being on their bus

1470
02:09:16.319 --> 02:09:20.560
and and having a breakfast with them. Uh. There's so many of them

1471
02:09:20.640 --> 02:09:26.279
that are gone now. You know, my good friend LK. Line and

1472
02:09:26.880 --> 02:09:33.319
Jim Bunning and Little Brock was especially
gracious. Uh. And you know I

1473
02:09:33.439 --> 02:09:37.640
missed them all, but it was
really great to know them well. Tom

1474
02:09:37.760 --> 02:09:41.720
the great story there, the Sandy
Kofax and everything else and we are out

1475
02:09:41.760 --> 02:09:43.640
of time. I want to thank
you. You know, I always treated

1476
02:09:43.239 --> 02:09:46.399
like broadcasters like me. Uh you
know, I could have been a long

1477
02:09:46.439 --> 02:09:50.000
time writer, and you're always really
gracious with your time, just like you

1478
02:09:50.079 --> 02:09:52.560
are today. I want to tell
everybody the Enchanted season. I went on

1479
02:09:52.720 --> 02:09:56.439
my phone where I buy my books, and I saw it right there.

1480
02:09:56.800 --> 02:10:00.680
I could order it up, so
I encourage everybody to do that. Tom,

1481
02:10:00.760 --> 02:10:03.000
thanks so much for your time,
continued success. Always great to talk

1482
02:10:03.039 --> 02:10:07.640
with you. Well. Thank you, Dennis, and I really enjoyed being

1483
02:10:07.680 --> 02:10:09.760
on your show. All right,
take care. There is Tom Gage,

1484
02:10:09.960 --> 02:10:13.880
the long time Tiger beat writer.
Talk a little bit about the current Tigers,

1485
02:10:15.000 --> 02:10:18.640
and of course going back to nineteen
eighty four. I want to thank

1486
02:10:20.159 --> 02:10:22.640
Ben and Zost for turning all the
dials, doing a fabulous job here,

1487
02:10:24.039 --> 02:10:28.000
everybody else for listening, Matt Shephard
for letting me pitch it. I'll do

1488
02:10:28.079 --> 02:10:31.680
it again in June if he'll have
me back. Take care everybody, Xes

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