WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:20.960 Good morning, friends and friends, I am Julio Pérez and this is the 2 00:00:21.160 --> 00:00:27.600 train of life, a radio adventure along the routes of the heart. I 3 00:00:27.640 --> 00:00:32.920 want to invite you to travel with me and dream together in a better world, 4 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:38.320 a different world where men and women of good will can live in peace 5 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:45.600 and freedom. The train of life is a magaxine of good news and hope. 6 00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:54.000 This is a radio time specially designed for people like you and like so 7 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:59.920 many truth seekers, of the only truth that can make us authentic free come 8 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:07.359 on, I invite you to travel with us on the safest train of all, 9 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:17.560 which will certainly take you to safe harbour. This is the train of 10 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:53.000 life. Or well, ask, well, very good morning Spain. Good 11 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:57.040 morning, friends, a good friend speaks to you, the old friend, 12 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:04.719 Julio Pérez. This week we are going on this Magaxin of good news and 13 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:07.599 hope for all men and women. You' re welcome to come with me. 14 00:02:07.680 --> 00:03:15.080 Let' s go there now very good morning, dear friends, train 15 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:21.159 travelers of life. Here we are again, almost just a few days from 16 00:03:21.240 --> 00:03:28.159 spring, that blood alters spring. Well, we' ll see what rains 17 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:34.479 are missing rains do to us and well, in the meantime, we' 18 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:37.520 ve barely had winter. We have had a spring winter, but well, 19 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:44.120 here we are this morning to enjoy the good company of good friends. Today 20 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:50.719 we have a fabulous quartet that will accompany us this week on the fast journey 21 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:53.039 of the train of life. It is the living parable, like life itself. 22 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:58.520 They always remember it, not and I remember them and I always hollowed 23 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:02.560 out, because thirty- two years ago Look it was for this time. 24 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:09.800 Just in the spring, in the spring of one thousand nine hundred and ninety 25 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:11.960 - two, we began with the train of life. Before I had started 26 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:16.240 a program that we had titled Gospel Sprint. It was about an hour' 27 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:20.920 s program a week. Sprint Evangelical was a news program and some other interview, 28 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:26.160 but the idea was born the train of life, a traveling train. 29 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:30.199 I really like the train. I' ve always liked the Mira train. 30 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:35.160 This month I have to travel between I have twice to Madrid, to the 31 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:41.720 Assembly it was fered one and the other to the Board of the Board of 32 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:45.279 Directors of Biblical Society, practically in these coming weeks. So, to enjoy 33 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:50.560 the train and I like it because they are fast trips and well, it 34 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:59.160 is always appetizing to read or have your laptop or your tablet or a coffee 35 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:02.800 and sometimes some conversation, talking a lot on the phone can not be eh 36 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:09.079 because it is interrupted easily. But well the train always tells us of that 37 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:13.879 living parable, of the life we go from here to there and the interesting 38 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:16.040 thing is to get to port. I' m sure that' s the 39 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:21.639 important thing. There are no trains, as we recalled last week in the 40 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:27.720 event since the 20th anniversary of 11 March, that fateful day, that wonderful 41 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:34.399 day for the whole Community of ours, for the country we completely broke our 42 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:44.800 hearts in half with so many almost two hundred deaths countless wounded by that savage 43 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:50.240 terrorist attack that we suffered. And well, here we are overcoming the vicissitudes 44 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:56.920 and contingencies, sometimes grave, of life. And we have to do it, 45 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:00.000 and we do it in the name of Jesus. The name ons Jesus 46 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:02.360 empowers us. The name of Jesus is the one who has changed our lives. 47 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:06.519 The name and person of Jesus is the one who has given us purpose 48 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:11.360 in life. And now we' re going this morning to have good friends, 49 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:15.079 look we have where the lyceum Vila. Don en el Liceo Vila is 50 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:19.959 the general director of Editorial Clie. He is currently the son of the founder 51 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:26.680 Don Samuel Vila, a real character. This year it celebrates Editorial Clie. 52 00:06:26.759 --> 00:06:30.839 At this time a hundred years in the service of the evangelical people a thousand 53 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:36.399 nine hundred ninety- four, pardon a thousand nine hundred twenty- four, 54 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:40.000 exactly two thousand twenty- four. A hundred years later. There Clie continues 55 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:48.519 to publish or make publications of a very first level, of a commendable theological 56 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:56.240 and biblical height, for there we have them and we are going to interview 57 00:06:56.959 --> 00:07:00.680 Don Eliseo Vila is old enough, but he is a man who has, 58 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:03.000 has hook, I believe he is, and we will talk about the story 59 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:06.759 of a hero of the faith as was Don Samuel life. We' ll 60 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:12.879 give a breviary about your life. Also his adventures an empire against a faith 61 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:16.120 that is a faith forgiveness against an empire. This would be the truth. 62 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:20.480 That is a book that was published and that editorial cry has echoed them very 63 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:28.839 deservedly, a faith against an empire that don Samuel Vila is the story of 64 00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:32.240 this distinguished character and we will interview him in the first place, in prime 65 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:39.319 Time this morning, traveling on the train of life and then we will go 66 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:46.120 ahead and meet someone else. We' re meeting the biology doctor, Antonio 67 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:50.480 Cruz. We' re going to pick up a topic that we' ve 68 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:55.759 sometimes talked about with the piece of time we didn' t talk about this 69 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:59.120 from your book to God for DNA. It really is very important to propose 70 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:01.959 intelligent design people. Let' s talk a little bit about that in the 71 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:07.279 boz of a man as qualified as is Dr Don Antonio Cruz, doctor in 72 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:15.439 biology and also professor of Natural Sciences, prolific writer, magnificent, where they 73 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:20.920 are here in the train of life goodbye by and adn what intelligent design proposes. 74 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:28.920 Don' t miss it and in the third season we will meet Don 75 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:35.279 Daniel Gasoo, clinical psychologist, our good friend, telling us about the seasonal 76 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:41.879 changes and our moods look. Now we' re about to switch from winter 77 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:46.120 to spring and look at me personally I resent it a lot. There' 78 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:52.320 s something in my neurological system almost always from winter to spring and these days 79 00:08:52.360 --> 00:09:00.639 I find myself a little strange. That is the case with States. He 80 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:05.799 also tells us about our moods and, obviously, everything that those transitional sensations 81 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:13.399 that we live in the seasons of the year Good and some practical applications for 82 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:20.600 life in the voice of clinical psychologist Daniel Gaso and finally, my good friend, 83 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:28.960 Dr Modesto Roca Bernabeu, doctor of family doctor, will tell us about 84 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:35.679 the different allergies and their possible treatments. Allergies begin the sacks and everything that 85 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:41.600 vibrates in terms of allergic susceptibilitys, because they begin to strengthen and act in 86 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:48.720 a direct way, because these days, especially these next weeks, already begin 87 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:54.639 the allergies that produce, since the sacks and the environment and many sensations that 88 00:09:54.679 --> 00:10:01.519 there are in the environment, many elements that produce allergies and we will see, 89 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:07.879 we will treat it under the medical guide of Dr Modesto Roca. Well, 90 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:13.480 four is for chinos of the word we have here. Don Eliseo Villa, 91 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:22.000 Director General of Editorial Clie. Currently speaking of the hundred years of this 92 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:28.399 important ephemerides of editorial Clie also of Dr Antonio cluz talking to us goodbye by 93 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:35.000 DNA and some questions derived also the clinical psychologist Daniel Gaso, the changes of 94 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:41.799 season and our moods. And of course, because Dr Modesto Roca the different 95 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:46.879 allergies and their possible treatments. Well, what else do they want a good 96 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:50.720 radio menu for this morning? May I remind you that for any questions or 97 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:56.960 questions of interest you can write to Julio Pérez Arroba Onda Paz FM? I 98 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:01.480 tell you this because you can decide me Julio Pérez Arroba Onda peace FM? 99 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:07.159 But we' re going there, come with me, we' re going 100 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:11.799 to travel together. You can send your message through our Facebook. Through our 101 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:16.919 Facebook entering between double subs point the train of life, point is the train 102 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:22.360 of life, point is. They remember that this way you collaborate with us. 103 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:28.120 Tell us your impressions, ask us and participate actively. We want to 104 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:33.799 meet you. We want to meet you. Enter our website three your double 105 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:37.080 points, the train of life, point is and follow us through Facebook, 106 00:11:37.399 --> 00:12:15.440 via Fabook. Thank me for all the things you' ve done for me, 107 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:30.759 things and deserved that we stop your love. The voices of a million 108 00:12:30.879 --> 00:13:03.799 express the pleasure you are and the right good- bye is the clarian day 109 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:26.159 opens, Goodbye, Gloria, so sad with his rastres, he relieved me 110 00:13:28.679 --> 00:14:03.159 of his hour. I have a healthy change serious for what sea Vid Mr 111 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:26.039 Rendida, always only you or when you come in nobreta, because diteto I 112 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:48.519 will be able to his sansante mine cleaned his power my healthy wandeos it is 113 00:14:50.159 --> 00:16:52.240 acario not what ta oh meito are of Livia, his mesaron ce s l 114 00:16:52.559 --> 00:17:02.679 ration, my project to study in truth, but his dreams, like those 115 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:03.839 of anyone, have no limits. Let' s not put them on us. 116 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:08.359 Integration is always the best response for the social inclusion of people with mental 117 00:17:08.440 --> 00:17:14.240 health problems. Ministry of Health, Social Services for Equality of the Government of 118 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:17.640 Spain, the Traffic and Road Safety Act has changed. We changed the rules, 119 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:21.079 because the way we moved has also changed. Therefore, now the deadline 120 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:23.680 to recover the initial point jump is two years, without committing infringements that involve 121 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:30.079 the loss of new times points, new rules. General Traffic Directorate, Ministry 122 00:17:30.279 --> 00:17:33.480 of the Interior, Government of Spanish. Never leave me alone in the bathtub 123 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:37.880 or places with water. Don' t let them emit luis fingers and linchufi. 124 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:41.680 Don' t leave me in the face of an open window. You 125 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:48.039 told her at my fingertips tissue substances or roads already let me swallow the small 126 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:52.079 pieces of toys. If you neglect, your ojer can be dangerous for your 127 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:55.440 children. Don' t neglect to avoid accidents. For what you want most 128 00:17:55.599 --> 00:18:00.160 Ministry of Health and Consumer Affairs a Government of Spain, if you want to 129 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:34.039 visit our website Www. The train of life, of life to. Ladies 130 00:18:34.359 --> 00:18:42.240 and gentlemen, we are already online Lisa for talking to Donriseo Villa, the 131 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:49.000 Director General of Editorial Clie, remembering and remembering the hundred years that this two 132 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:56.920 thousand twenty- four to one hundred years of history of the great history of 133 00:18:56.000 --> 00:19:06.759 publishing click with really different titles and titles. I was trying to be good. 134 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:12.200 I remembered so many titles of Don Samuel Virano, religion within the reach 135 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:18.200 of the people, God by the atom and countless titles that were very didactic 136 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:27.119 by that time, those years that good, even the sociocultural level of Spain 137 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:33.960 was low, was low, and then, to explain the faith, to 138 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:41.920 explain arguments about evangelical faith and evangelical experience. And well, because he was 139 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:45.920 a forerunner, it was an advance of his epic, Don Samu Olvida, 140 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:49.480 who had to face the powers, also the social and political powers, which 141 00:19:49.680 --> 00:20:00.319 evidently reduced to Protestantism, ostracism, to having neither us nor vote, of 142 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:07.559 course, until democracy came. Well, there we have Don Iliseo Villa, 143 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:15.079 who is with us. Good morning, Don Elisha, good morning, Jew, 144 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:19.799 listen well, we listen very well, thank God. How are you? 145 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:27.000 All right, thank God. It' s a few years ago that 146 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:34.559 I have and a body starts to have its weaknesses. But he tried by 147 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:40.039 all means and all forms, thank God or, sir, he' s 148 00:20:40.640 --> 00:20:44.039 keeping me and I' m still working. My father worked until the last 149 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:48.519 day of his life and if the lord allows it and I think not to 150 00:20:48.559 --> 00:20:52.720 abandon the snowy hand until Mr Bella sees his presence, for I am very 151 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:56.039 glad to see you on the ground, even though the years, for only 152 00:20:56.119 --> 00:21:02.519 the years. But, well, that good spirit that you have infects us. 153 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:11.279 I congratulate you, Don Elisha A hundred years later, how many memories 154 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:17.839 of perseverance struggle for the creation of editorial clie in difficult years where hostility made, 155 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:22.200 among other things, towards Protestantism. Well, it was also years where, 156 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:27.400 obviously, the Republic was still in progress. Tell us some of those 157 00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:33.440 memories from the past. Well, it was actually founded not in New Republic, 158 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:37.480 but before the repuge, before the Poli, nine hundred twenty- four, 159 00:21:38.599 --> 00:21:45.880 in the time of Primo de Rivera, and it was founded on a 160 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:52.000 first book written by my own father, which was called to the sources of 161 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:56.680 Christianity, which is possible that many of the listeners still remember, because it 162 00:21:56.799 --> 00:22:02.359 was a book that had a dramatic impact at that time. It was a 163 00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:08.079 book of apomogetics, It was a po polemical book in which my father tried 164 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:15.640 to refute what the Catholic Church said, which treated us as a sect, 165 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:26.480 because they said that we had abandoned evangelical Protestant evangelicals, we had abandoned the 166 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:30.599 tradition of Gaignesia and the doctrine of the holy fathers. So, my father 167 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:34.720 made a rebrod where he said or the Catholic Church teaches on the page and 168 00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:42.319 on the other page said or the Vivia says And behind or topped with a 169 00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:52.720 few quotes from the church' s parents, supporting precisely what the Bible says 170 00:22:52.440 --> 00:23:03.039 and or the Evangelical Church teaches? This, then, turned out to be 171 00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:10.759 a tremendous book to the Episcopic Conference of Españoga published fourteen books trying to refute 172 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:17.680 the sources of a Christianity and then succeeded. It is because my father, 173 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:22.240 to quote Va Bivia, then to quote the quotations of you fathers of Vaihuesia, 174 00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:26.960 told you look you will not be that those who have departed not only 175 00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:32.640 from the Bible, but also from the doctrine of you holy fathers are not 176 00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:37.880 us, but it is you who added times later things that neither the Bible 177 00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:42.599 teaches nor the doctrine of the fathers of Baigüés is said and this is the 178 00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:52.000 reason precisely for the quau form. After a hundred years we have remembered our 179 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:57.160 centenary publishing a peculia work. The patristic Bible, that is, the Bible 180 00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:04.079 commented to that of the Holy Fathers with more than twelve my notes, transcribing 181 00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:10.559 for each text, for each passage of Vadivia. Or that the parents of 182 00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:15.640 Baiwes, as well as those who were in more direct contact with the apostles, 183 00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:22.920 taught that we should have reference to what their doctrine was and to what 184 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:29.359 extent. Later, the church deviated from this same doctrine. This was the 185 00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:36.200 first time I would speak to him as the foundational period. Then a second 186 00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:42.640 epoch would be a time of how much destinity and persecution. This one I 187 00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:52.759 did live on. I then came a time of camufuaje. IE was totally 188 00:24:52.880 --> 00:25:00.599 banned, as all the evangelical institutions were left by winning the war in a 189 00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:08.160 thousand nine hundred thirty- nine and saying that Spain was Catholic, Spain was 190 00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:18.799 a unit of thought and there could only be open in Spain or foreign churches 191 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:26.920 for foreigners who made the points in foreign language, all the gesas were closed 192 00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:33.079 and that remained in a destinite John. This was a very difficult time, 193 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:41.319 but my father started publishing already. I have had a continuity throughout all days 194 00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:48.119 with printmakers friends in Barcelona, some of them went to jail or, spent 195 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:56.000 nights in the Calabozo printed at night the Gospel books. Some will remember these 196 00:25:56.119 --> 00:26:03.920 printers Salvador Rano, they are already with the Lord and when this was not 197 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:10.079 possible. Years later, my father set up a printing press in his own 198 00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:17.599 house completely camouflaged and during the day, as he worked for industries, card 199 00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:29.799 paper and at night they used to print evangelical books. I remember inspection visits 200 00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:34.559 and poetry records coming every two by three, and my mother told me they 201 00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:45.480 were hiding your vibro panchas under my cradle. I was a few years old 202 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:51.000 and when the police came and I was sleeping in a vaccine and we gave 203 00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:56.200 cops who were almost ashamed to have to go and search for evangelical books from 204 00:26:56.359 --> 00:27:02.079 people who didn' t do any bau, who didn' t have any 205 00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:03.279 ideology, not even politics, and have to go pick up the books. 206 00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:06.119 They saw me sleeping in a vaccine and saying no. It doesn' t 207 00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:08.880 fit, no, it wakes up a child and they leave and there were 208 00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:14.559 the fantas of the books. It was very difficult this time. Then an 209 00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:21.839 anecdote of a hymn by my father and a German missionary in Madrid, Juan 210 00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:26.839 Fuener, came to the police and requisitioned the entire edition of imnaires, and 211 00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:36.440 my father and Juan Fuener went to visit the comisariat to see that you see 212 00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:41.000 that this book, that is and tells me no, no, this vibro 213 00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:52.160 has to be destroyed because it is against two principles of national movement. Agarró 214 00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.440 Emimnario opened by a famous hymn that is now no longer sung, but that 215 00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:00.480 was sung in those times that you have. You were more than conquering. 216 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:04.440 It' s our currency. Out the second stanza and I told them look, 217 00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:11.119 look what it says, look, it tells you here our wise leader 218 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.920 victorious and made binary what he didn' t hear in the village. And 219 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:19.079 the next that Okovario says and his triumph is seen but Mappi king, but 220 00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:25.400 boy closed to Vibnalia And told me how you can say that Vibradio is against 221 00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:30.559 the principles of movement and the Commissioner moved you all the hiccups dicetochts convinced that 222 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:37.440 it was so. Thus, with this picadesque one had to live until the 223 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:42.720 sixties. In the 1960s, I' d say it was a time of 224 00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:48.119 camufuage. My father, with the printing press in his home, managed to 225 00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:55.039 legalize your camouflage by changing a man, not as a Literature Committee for the 226 00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:59.559 Evangémite Churches, as it was at the beginning, but changed two words with 227 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:07.039 the same acronyms, centered on Spanish books and thus managed to gavizar camufuada. 228 00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:11.160 In the sixties up to one thousand nine hundred and seventy- nine, which 229 00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:18.200 already with a new Constitution, with a much broader religious freedom bay, was 230 00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:29.920 constituted as an internal non- vocrative religious entity of an interdenominational character and has 231 00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:34.839 a governing board that is representative of every Spanish Protestant that is going to govern 232 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:45.400 today. How interesting we love to listen to him with such a descriptive and 233 00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:52.039 passionate form of freedom of expression fighters and also of evangelical faith. But a 234 00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:57.359 character like Don Samuel Vila, his father, a bold fighter good. There 235 00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:00.759 are already slashes who was and how was Samuel Vila, but I remember one 236 00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:07.200 of his books, among many, so prolific, a faith against an empire 237 00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:14.920 not and truth the empire of the Catholic Church in total connivance, with the 238 00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:22.039 caudillo under palio, not then national, the national Catholicism, then, of 239 00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:27.839 course, evidently, the courage was amazing And how would I describe this good 240 00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:36.480 fighter. My father, in fact, was born in Ruby, although many 241 00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:41.839 years later the bayun also for being settled in Tarrasa, the Town Hall of 242 00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:48.039 Tarrasa became adopted son of Tarrasa, but was born in Ruby in a prosperous 243 00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:56.359 family of Rubí merchants treated, had shops, treated with wines, but he 244 00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:00.880 wanted to dedicate his life to the Van Heavy Ministry. He was educated because 245 00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:07.480 the family was already of evangelic origin. He was educated in the Methodist Vaigxa 246 00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:15.119 of Rubí and at the Evangelical College of Rubí, which bado a Spanish pastor, 247 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:19.880 Francisco Aubricias, and he wanted to devote himself to the Gospel. There 248 00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:26.160 were no seminars in Spain, there were no institutions and as a family, 249 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:36.480 because he had financial availability, he was able to study abroad at the stake 250 00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:45.079 of Carlos Xpurson, the famous college of preachers, under the tutelage of a 251 00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:52.359 man who had been a direct distype of spul John Messier Rubén Dubarri and when 252 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:55.240 he returned to Spain, already prepared for a ministry, he wanted to found 253 00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:57.640 a church. My granny said it' s okay. I am going to 254 00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:05.279 give you to merge a church, but not in Ruby, because in Ruby 255 00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:09.960 there is already an evangelic church and at the moment, opening another church in 256 00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:16.759 Ruby would be a Maut testimony. You can open the church because either in 257 00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:23.720 San jugat or in Tarrasa and opened igia in Tarrasa, a church in Baquao. 258 00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:30.359 They have known other churches in Tarrasa and my father began to open works 259 00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:34.319 throughout Spain after bai Guerra. The story would be very long. Fifty- 260 00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:40.319 two churches founded my father in Spain that currently constitute, or that is federaz 261 00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:50.440 FIEIDE Federation Independents of Spain and Christ fifty- two bones. He was president 262 00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:59.519 of the Evangelical Baptist Union in several years and at the same time said I 263 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:06.039 want to dedicate part of my life, apart from the pastoral ministry or to 264 00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:14.000 that pastors, students, church leaders and a people in general have in Spanish 265 00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:20.119 the same wealth of tools to study God' s work and prepare for a 266 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:27.400 ministry that I had discovered for him was the discovery in the immense libraries of 267 00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:31.759 Sportney, pastors Covenge in Mondres. I had seen or wealth of books that 268 00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:35.960 would be in English and said I' m going to dedicate part of my 269 00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:45.799 life to these books being in Spanish. And so it began in the twenties, 270 00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:51.119 the inhabitant of the twenties. Yes, yes, how interesting, but 271 00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:58.000 he went to the sources of Christianity and then continued to publish books of apologetics, 272 00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:01.000 calm proofs of the existence of God, a religion within reach of a 273 00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:07.279 game that was a replica of. Rogelio Ibarreta was a man you had. 274 00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:15.760 Yes, as you well said, he had many tremendous. I remember when 275 00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:21.159 I was little, accompanying my father, the police station hours and hours and 276 00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:25.360 hours to debate and my mother sent me together with my father because it said 277 00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:30.480 good if at least one child is knocked out like they are not going to 278 00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:34.480 stay a child. He brings me home and I' ll know they' 279 00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.039 re staying like this. I raised him. The first day I went to 280 00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:45.679 school, to school. My abueva told me boy. Remember that you' 281 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:49.400 re not like the others and that it sounds. That' s good, 282 00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:54.920 the good woman. He wanted to tell me that, being a Protestant son 283 00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:59.880 of a Protestant pastor in the shops. I' d be in a lot 284 00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:07.360 of trouble and I was, I had a lot of trouble in schools, 285 00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:07.079 but that' s how it was baboon and that' s how it was 286 00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:12.280 to be killed. It was extraordinary, yes, it was. Look. 287 00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:19.079 I had the privilege of church. He was one of the leaders of the 288 00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:22.800 pastoral team, I, among others, at the Bethel Church in Barcelona in 289 00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:27.119 the eighties, and I had the privilege of inviting him. I was in 290 00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:31.360 charge of making the list of preachers and I talked to him and well, 291 00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:36.840 he came with us twice to preach and I remember that in the previous, 292 00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:43.119 well we sat down for coffee, good to chat. In fact and it 293 00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:47.639 was warm and I said this man is a walking and good story and then 294 00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:53.159 his preaching. Not that I had the pleasure of being able to meet him 295 00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:58.039 and, in addition to inviting him to preach in our local church at that 296 00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:05.440 time, in the eighties, here in Barcelona have been talked about the first 297 00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:08.400 publications of Clip publishing, but how clie is editorial from one hundred years later, 298 00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:21.280 in the Iseo Bueno Hey, my father will founded as an interdenomining publishing 299 00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:27.440 house, and this I say to myself that in Latin America it sounds very 300 00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:31.800 strange. I sometimes go to Latin America and when I tell them that on 301 00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:39.920 the governing board of QE there is representation of every Spanish evangelical people, of 302 00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:46.679 all the endings practically and that I sit on the governing board the directive of 303 00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:52.840 Twie with the Anglican bishop. To the left and to the drecha, I 304 00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:57.639 have a former president, American bishop, Carlos Lopez, and to the father 305 00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:00.760 I have a former president of you to know, God, José María Baela 306 00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:06.360 of Seville. In Latin America he kissed in the eyes like dishes, because 307 00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:15.760 this is inconceivable there. There are still some rencones and divisions name very sad 308 00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:22.400 birds. In Spain. Our history is different precisely because of the persecution we 309 00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:30.000 have spoken of before. The angelic people always had to stick together in front 310 00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:36.159 of a common enemy, who was the national cato saying. And this gave 311 00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:42.079 rise to the Defense Commission. And this has given rise to the heredity where, 312 00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:47.400 as you know, all the evangelical churches that exist in Spain united for 313 00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:55.840 the same purpose are represented. This does not exist in Latin America, except 314 00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:02.599 Latin America continues with an idea of denomination. Then my father will be founded 315 00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:07.639 already in the year two thousand a twenty- four. Possibly by proceeding from 316 00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:15.639 a Methodist formation in a Methodist school, go to a seminary such as Spurjun, 317 00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:22.320 who was a cauvinist Baptist. This created an interdenominational sense for them and 318 00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:31.199 I believe that to serve all denominations without exception to all the Christian people in 319 00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:36.880 general. So there are times when I go to Latin America and I am 320 00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:42.920 asked what is a confession of faith of yours, what denomination it belongs to, 321 00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:45.000 what are your ideas. I tell you look at my I' m 322 00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:50.880 going to tell you very easily the apostolic creed. This is the confession of 323 00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:55.639 faith and it is contained in its statutes, because we consider these to be 324 00:38:55.840 --> 00:39:04.079 the fundamental truths of our evangelical faith. From here on, any kind of 325 00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:15.280 eschatological paradigm soteriological ethical schemes. These are very respectable issues and each denomination has 326 00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:20.000 the right to have its own and defend them, but they are opposable. 327 00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:28.000 The fundamental truths of the Gospel are more understood in the apostolic creed. Otherwise, 328 00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:37.360 we publish public villa for all denominations. The author of each book is 329 00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:43.760 responsible for the ideas of each book. Not us. We do not censor 330 00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:51.159 or obstruct, as long as the book is within the fundamental truths of the 331 00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:57.440 apostolic creed. Considered to be the reader of each denomination, of each Euquén 332 00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:02.480 ideology lame. The book doesn' t spoil. Or I think you have 333 00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:07.960 to see everything, because if you don' t see everything, you don 334 00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:14.360 ' t know or what others think, and this is what creates the divisions 335 00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:20.840 and barriers denomination. If we knew more how they thought, we would have 336 00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:25.199 much more union, because we would know each other better and know each other 337 00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:28.920 better, we would understand each other much more, because this is an ideology 338 00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:32.239 of twilight. For the rest, how does it result well, hear this 339 00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:37.679 rule, for it is a religious entity, governed, as I said, 340 00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:46.519 by a governing board where they are representatives of different denominations and publishes for all 341 00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:52.519 dimensions for the whole evangelical egg. Yes, how interesting to have the detail 342 00:40:52.840 --> 00:41:00.719 inside indicate to us some of the most remarkable publications of publishing cía, some 343 00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:06.960 among them. There are many there and I have always noticed, but over 344 00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:14.719 the years it has acquired a notoriety because they are very relevant titles, topics 345 00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:21.519 that are addressed rigorously and with a lot of depth of different authors, but 346 00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:27.840 some that want to highlight of the publications. Well, I, more than 347 00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:32.639 highlighting my energy, have published three five hundred different titles in the hundred years 348 00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:38.199 that it has history. Waiting for titles would be complex, but I can 349 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:45.039 talk about trends and perhaps cite some titles in each trend, because our purpose, 350 00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:51.599 since my father founded, has been to fill the needs of the Church 351 00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:55.000 at every moment. As I said before, it was founded with a controversial 352 00:41:55.119 --> 00:42:02.639 book to the sources or Christianity, because there was a reason to refute the 353 00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:08.079 fact that evangelical Igüensia treated us and called us a sect. Then, this 354 00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:16.480 was in the time of the Second Republic. This was before the Second Republic, 355 00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:22.679 when football was to be taken care of to arrive in the Second Republic, 356 00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:27.639 as the problem was already different. The problem was a growing atheism. 357 00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:35.639 He was at the attacks on faith in we generated attacks on the existence of 358 00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:39.519 God. Mathewism was forbade and my father, what he does, as he 359 00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:46.400 begins to publish books to refute that replicates to Iubarreta a review. Roger Ibarreta 360 00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:52.880 was a fabso writer or religion within reach of the puevo tangibes proofs of God 361 00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:59.440 ' s existence, thinking and believing. Then, after the war that is 362 00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:05.480 south, because the problem was already another pastors killed on the front, exiled 363 00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:13.719 pastors imprisoned, closed churches. My father, with a ficustive, began to 364 00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:21.039 distribute what was called the sermon by mail, because the congregations were distributed through 365 00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:25.559 the houses preaching to a young man or who knew more about preaching, but 366 00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:32.719 had no instruction for preaching. My father was mailing. That' s why 367 00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.119 it was called a mail sermon. These leaves made with a psicuncture with a 368 00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:43.840 sermon he had prepared and one in the congregation read this sermon for you believers 369 00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:51.239 to be instructed. Then he began to publish some books for the formation of 370 00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:55.760 pastors, Homemetics Manual, to teach young people to prepare sermons from heart to 371 00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:04.119 heart, to teach selected sermons, to have different sermons, encyclopedia of anecdotes 372 00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:10.760 for books already dedicated to training young people in the shepherding and so on he 373 00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:19.159 advanced until already in time of freedom, they began to make larger books and 374 00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:25.960 published a bibuic dictionary, new illustrated Bible dictionary that was for many years a 375 00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:35.039 boom more intervinated Bible, the old intervinal testament and a new will intervened today. 376 00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:45.480 And if it' s like we' re looking to shorten going to 377 00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:51.159 the current era is covering more cool Gesia needs. What happens today, that 378 00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:57.079 many young people go to universities encounter questions that they do not know how to 379 00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:06.159 answer, many denominations and many pastors are still using nineteenth- century answers that 380 00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:13.360 young people cannot present. In a university there is no training for this we 381 00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:19.920 make books of apologetics, like the books of Dr Antonio cross one hundred questions 382 00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:32.840 about God to current apogetics and books like dictionaries of animals of babibua, and 383 00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:37.119 we try to touch on more current topics, such as, for example, 384 00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:42.079 the topic of va ecology. Now we are going to publish a book on 385 00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:49.320 ecology or the responsibility of care that I want to believe in taking care of 386 00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:52.000 God' s creation, books on a woman' s ministry. And we 387 00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:55.119 have also entered the field of study vibrios, because today, because people like 388 00:45:55.440 --> 00:46:02.920 to have all the text of the Bible with the study notes below. And 389 00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:12.119 we try to make study bibles, different study bibles that provide a true content 390 00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:16.880 with twelve, fifteen zero notes under study of the bible and dedicated to a 391 00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:23.239 bible theme of study of a prophetic and eschatological message dedicated to the topic of 392 00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:32.039 prophecy, with notes explaining what prophecies each book of Valdivia contains, what prophetic 393 00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:37.679 parts, what part not pros that do not make the old testament the vidia 394 00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:43.960 of patrística. With comments from Bainhesia' s parents, we seek at every 395 00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:52.719 moment to be a bridge between the academy and Baihesia, because, unfortunately, 396 00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:58.519 most of our pastors, especially in Latin America, have had no academic training 397 00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:06.239 whatsoever, and the mission of which is to provide them with the tools to 398 00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:13.119 be able to improve in this academic training and better present the lesson of them 399 00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:19.039 jue So what interesting How many things? How much is a gigantic library. 400 00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:23.639 Three thousand and five hundred titles. I have, among them, that next 401 00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:30.480 week we interviewed Don Jesús Zamora and Alfonso Ropero to tell us about the Bible 402 00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:34.840 of patristic study, centuries from Moon to the sixth. This is a monumental 403 00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:40.599 work, that is, this is a colossal work. I am a fond 404 00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:46.639 of patristics and truth that is a book among many, but now we are 405 00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:52.480 also talking about this one, one of the latest publications by editorial Clie. 406 00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:59.639 It' s sensational. Any reader interested in deepening the topics of the Bida 407 00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:07.639 and its history has to acquire this book Bible of patristic study published by Ito. 408 00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:10.480 Giving customer is something really is a jewel. You don' t have 409 00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:16.599 to miss this. And I also want to bring up Don Elisha also the 410 00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:23.039 books of the Treasure of David, which you have also compared, he has 411 00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:28.199 directed with so many authors. I have both volumes published. Another of the 412 00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:36.039 must- have jewels, which is that there are things that are especially important 413 00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:40.559 and these two, the Treasure of David, first volume and second also participated 414 00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:45.039 in va bilio patrística. All the notes, the selection of notes and the 415 00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:52.239 translation of the books of Esther Dras, Nemiah and Psalms, are notes that 416 00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:59.159 I prepared and reacted from the parents of the church and I had to translate 417 00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:04.360 sometimes from Latin, sometimes according to the cases, and I can tell myself 418 00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:13.639 that I enjoyed very much and it was very enriching the seversion and translation of 419 00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:20.920 these notes for from a spiritual point of view, the avegorical interpretation that the 420 00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:24.960 fathers of Vaibesia do seeing Christ everywhere, even in the titles of masters, 421 00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:30.480 they saw Christ here was an anticipation of the balery of Christ. For me 422 00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:35.559 it was a real dispossession, but you' re right. My greatest contribution 423 00:49:35.880 --> 00:49:39.880 from the academic point of view has been David' s treasure. It was 424 00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:47.440 my father' s illusion to dispose of this monumental work of expulsion, which 425 00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:53.320 was a commentary to the entire Bible through Bossauns, because and to the fathers 426 00:49:53.400 --> 00:50:00.159 of Vaigesia, like Thanas and Beejandria, they believed and demonstrate that the Saumos 427 00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:07.199 are a summary of the whole Bible. There is no passage in the Bible, 428 00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:13.280 there is no event that does not have its counterpart in the euvibre of 429 00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:20.599 psalms. Then Spulson wrote eight volumes in the U S that not only did 430 00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:27.519 I make his own comment We enjoyed, but it was reacted from the parents 431 00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:32.119 of Baynesia to his time, or better said, commenting to the Saumos by 432 00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:37.239 all the authors of all time, the church fathers, in the Middle Ages, 433 00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:44.119 the writers or reformers, puritan writers a monumental work. I really do, 434 00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:49.000 and it' s been another privilege for me. It was my father 435 00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:52.639 ' s dream that this work, educated at Spulson' s school, could 436 00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:58.760 be published in Spanish. He couldn' t do it in life because there 437 00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:00.559 were no means to it and the most difficult butades. But when I retired 438 00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:07.039 from day to day from yours and entered as current director, Director Don Alfonso 439 00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:12.199 Triviño, and I said good. I retire from day- to- day 440 00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:19.119 management, from management, but not from work. I have to continue to 441 00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:23.239 work as my father worked and I dedicated myself to making my father' s 442 00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:30.639 dream come true that this comment to the entire EU psalm trunk living could be 443 00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:38.440 available in full Spanish with all the text that is public fulson. My father 444 00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:43.039 made two small volumes, which was a small summary, but that at least 445 00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:46.239 five percent of the composite work I have now made with poet Ampoandoba and updating 446 00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:54.840 with actors of authors of ossively like José María Martínez, Francisco la Cueva and 447 00:51:54.840 --> 00:52:05.360 others like Luis Hago, great specialists like Luis Alonso checkeo O Krause. And 448 00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:10.559 the third volume is already closed. A month ago I closed the third and 449 00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:15.679 last volume of this work in Spanish. It is already in the process of 450 00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:20.159 printing and I hope that we will have it available for this year. And 451 00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:23.320 I' m still working right now. And in what, then, in 452 00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:29.280 the Bible of study to the uz de los Samos. Based on the bite 453 00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:30.840 he kicked out in a car I' m David' s. I am 454 00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:37.320 preparing a life of study from Genesis, one, one, Apocoypsis, twenty 455 00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:44.840 - one, twenty- two, lauding each verse, each biblical phrase or 456 00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:49.719 text with its counterpart in the omos and with comments from the great authors of 457 00:52:49.719 --> 00:52:53.159 all threads. If the Lord gives me strength and allows me to complete it, 458 00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:57.239 it is a monumental job. But if the Lord gives me strength, 459 00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:04.239 it will also be a work, an excellent exempt study life, Don el 460 00:53:04.239 --> 00:53:10.519 Iceo, that we rejoice in this prolific work and this is this desire and 461 00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:15.840 these forces and energies that God gives him to carry on. And finally, 462 00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:22.320 don Elliceo, what is the future of editorial clie what projects they have in 463 00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:29.920 mind for the coming times. Some things have advanced us, because we are 464 00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:37.239 going to get out very soon. Just last week we were celebrating the centenary 465 00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:45.360 with all the team and collaborators. We count thirty- one people who are 466 00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:52.440 in one way or another collaborating. With Clue, we have a team of 467 00:53:52.480 --> 00:54:00.480 or that I feel tremendously satisfied, of truly dedicated people. What comes close 468 00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:07.679 as a comfortable mini that is like a Christian ministry and we have drawn great 469 00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:16.440 projects to update the intervention, to support the vineyard of dictionaries and to continue, 470 00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:27.119 as I said a moment ago, filling the needs of vaigesia with books, 471 00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:34.559 touching on topics that perhaps other editorials that have a more denominational character, 472 00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:40.360 cannot touch or dare not touch, like the problems of women in the Church 473 00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:49.039 to the problems of ecology. Look, as I said before, so that 474 00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:57.679 the apostomic creed is the basis. From here we are open to all kinds 475 00:54:58.039 --> 00:55:06.280 of manuscripts that do not present us and that have the possibility to fill a 476 00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:13.000 gap more questions, more difficulties of the Church today, as long as they 477 00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:19.199 are well written, is relevant and remains within what we understand to be a 478 00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:28.800 faith Once given to the saints that is the fundamental doctrines. In apostolic ocreto, 479 00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:35.119 we have great projects. At this time it would be useless to value 480 00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:44.159 authors and titles in specific English, but we are working on a Bible study 481 00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:47.840 of the Bible lands still does not have a definite title. A four- 482 00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:57.679 color conceptual historical study Bible, illustrated so that people who see the text of 483 00:55:57.800 --> 00:56:02.840 the Bible can understand with the greatest accuracy or age, the historical, geographical, 484 00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:09.079 cultural context of you events that are narrated in a Bible and, in 485 00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:14.599 this way, be able to better understand the word of God. We are 486 00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:22.480 in big projects and, as I told the team, if we are able 487 00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:30.760 to follow the same tone that you have already followed in a few years to 488 00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:39.800 fill the gap. I was telling them what a passage of killing that when 489 00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:46.239 the Lord says if you do what we do, if you simply greet your 490 00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:52.719 brothers, what you do too much, you do not also make the Gentiles 491 00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:55.320 to be perfect, like your father, who are defiled. It is perfect 492 00:56:55.360 --> 00:57:02.119 you would have always followed this tonic of going forward and amortizing with a vision 493 00:57:02.239 --> 00:57:08.960 of the future. Or that we consider that igesia needs to advance and the 494 00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:15.440 idea that we have for the future is this always to follow a step forward 495 00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:25.239 and to contribute what we believe that igesia, without denominational distinctions, needs to 496 00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:30.719 have answers to the difficulties it has to face at every moment and in every 497 00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:35.199 epoch. We have done in the past aero conno and if the lord gives 498 00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:44.480 us strength, we think to continue making good future, because it is really 499 00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:50.920 sensational, it is admirable everything lived the history of publishing click from its origins, 500 00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:57.280 the person to the figure really remarkable of Don Samuel Villa, the founder, 501 00:57:57.519 --> 00:58:01.199 a fighter, a faith against an empire in the history of a mourning 502 00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:07.639 in birth, also as was Don Samuel Vila, And how not, since 503 00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:13.239 now represented in the person of Don Elisha Vila, his son, also obviously, 504 00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:17.519 the operating team of publishing Clie, because look at how many things and 505 00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:22.320 that enjoy. We celebrate and congratulate him, but with great enthusiasm and with 506 00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:28.480 great emotion to Clie publishing house, to you, Don el Liceo and all 507 00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:31.800 that we have ahead and have ahead with Clie publishing house. It' s 508 00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:37.480 really been a pleasure interviewing you. Thank you very much and until the next 509 00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:42.840 one where I eliseo, thank you very much. And tell me as the 510 00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:47.079 end that you have mentioned a book, a faith against an empire laughs for 511 00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:53.079 Brain. Your centennial is going to give free on the Internet this book that 512 00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:57.440 you have quoted, a faith against an empire and another that I wrote, 513 00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:02.480 which is called José Cardona, the defense of a faith that understands the whole 514 00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:07.719 history of or Protestantism in Spain over the last hundred years, practically the history 515 00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:12.719 of Quie and the history in general of Guaducha for the defense of the faith 516 00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:17.599 that José Cardona made. After my father. These books will be available in 517 00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:27.159 the good tuye that is www. They' re not going yet, but 518 00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:30.000 they' ll be over mid- year. There you will be able to 519 00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:32.760 download and have them free of charge and see this book that you mentioned. 520 00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:37.760 Thank you very much. Magnificent, magnificent, for I send you a hug 521 00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:42.480 and a very affectionate greeting. Don Elliceo. Many thanks to you and many 522 00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:47.559 successes and blessings in this great ministry for the work, as peace is waved. 523 00:59:49.039 --> 01:00:25.880 Thanks always does. Understandable is the obsession with the mainland, but tell 524 01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:31.880 me but that every trip that was worth it started because someone and sun sails 525 01:00:32.119 --> 01:00:47.440 and only sees it. Understandable, it' s the obsession with the sense 526 01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:53.840 I expect you to tell me but every step she left was taken because someone 527 01:00:53.840 --> 01:01:08.320 lost a nut, I lost a common foot run. Wanting to see that 528 01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:15.960 doesn' t look like following something you still don' t know right about 529 01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:25.880 him. All life is walking on water, walking on water? All life 530 01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:32.679 is walking on water, walking on water? All life is walking on water, 531 01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:40.320 walking on water? All life is walking on Cuba, walking on water? 532 01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:52.559 I have him over the water and I will give him a hint and 533 01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:58.719 he says that he would like to have our life resolved at once. But 534 01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:07.320 every day they care between dreams and tide, and there they find their great 535 01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:20.239 beauty. And in confidence is the party and the surprises. The faith the 536 01:02:20.519 --> 01:02:32.119 key, all the step and the Mars is already walking on the water, 537 01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:39.840 walking on the water? The secret not of a yard look, oh drink 538 01:02:40.039 --> 01:02:46.599 your eyes? All life is walking on water, walking on water? The 539 01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:53.559 secret no longer looks at God' s eyes and walks on the water, 540 01:02:53.880 --> 01:03:00.920 walks on the water, the secret not to cardar Look there gave him the 541 01:03:01.039 --> 01:03:07.599 look. All life is to walk on water, to walk on the weapon, 542 01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:22.639 the secret not of gray seen there saw his gaze, to walk in 543 01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:34.679 secret soleragua is not to watch truth walk on water, and he detonates of 544 01:03:34.679 --> 01:03:54.519 gray. Look talk about water tried to plow, walk about I thought I 545 01:03:54.679 --> 01:04:09.960 shouldn' t look. Editorial Clie presents Bible of study of patristics the wisdom 546 01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:15.639 of Christianity ancient century I. When I saw a Bible of study to the 547 01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:19.199 sources of Christianity more than twelve zero notes of study of the comments of the 548 01:04:19.239 --> 01:04:25.599 church parents, Special articles of the most relevant topics on the ancient Christian Church, 549 01:04:26.079 --> 01:04:31.280 Biographies of parents of the church glossary of important terms, ancient creeds words 550 01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:38.199 of Jesus in Red. You can get it in your usual Christian bookstore or 551 01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:44.880 by writing sales to robaclie is or entering our website clie com biblia de estudio 552 01:04:44.920 --> 01:05:00.360 de patrística, the wisdom of ancient Christianity clie quality in study bibles until today, 553 01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:05.760 closer than ever we invite you to the second edition of this Interdenominational Congress 554 01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:13.119 aimed at the whole body of Christ in Spain and Europe, which will take 555 01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:19.039 place from 26 to 28 April in the Fira de Reus, Tarragona. With 556 01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:27.280 us will be international speakers Mariano sen Igual, Benjamin Núñez and Marcos Brunet, 557 01:05:27.719 --> 01:05:39.719 Toda waltran raw Wado, bibo wamado. For more information or you can enter 558 01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:46.039 our website wwwwww. Until he comes? It is O to write to the 559 01:05:46.039 --> 01:05:49.880 six, one, six, eight, eight, one, five, seven, 560 01:05:50.679 --> 01:05:55.159 one, six hundred, sixteen, eight hundred, eighty- one, 561 01:05:55.639 --> 01:05:59.159 five hundred and seventy- one and to consult prices and registration modalities. Don 562 01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:03.880 ' t miss the opportunity to participate in this great call until he comes? 563 01:06:04.199 --> 01:06:16.519 Until he comes? Hoya prun yourself, home to your glory and come down 564 01:06:17.039 --> 01:06:30.960 plotted well and pruned eye to see or travel on the train of life. 565 01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:55.760 Answers to big questions. Yesterday and today. We' re in direct line 566 01:06:55.840 --> 01:06:59.880 with Dr Antonio Cruz. Today we' re talking about goodbye for the adén. 567 01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:04.639 It is one of his books for all lovers of science, of good 568 01:07:04.679 --> 01:07:12.719 science. It is a informative reflection on the origins written by a professor of 569 01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:18.960 biology and theologian, also in which lovers of apologetic dialogue will find many answers 570 01:07:19.840 --> 01:07:29.519 and arguments for the defensive and argumental explanation of the Christian faith. Well, 571 01:07:29.559 --> 01:07:31.719 there we have a great pleasure to have you with us on the train of 572 01:07:31.760 --> 01:07:36.920 life, because just as always, Antonio, in the first place, what 573 01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:41.639 is the primary reason for the publication of this new book to God by DNA, 574 01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:45.280 what is the reason Mobile moved you to write. Yes, well, 575 01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:50.480 I think this book is like a consequence of the former of the new atheism, 576 01:07:53.199 --> 01:07:58.719 because one of the main arguments of the new atheism is that God does 577 01:07:58.719 --> 01:08:02.239 not exist. That' s what Richard Dowkins and Daniel Denneth and all the 578 01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:09.239 other famous atheists say, for they say that nature has created itself, that 579 01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:17.359 natural laws have existed forever or have been generated from nothing. They say that 580 01:08:17.439 --> 01:08:24.479 the whole of matter has arisen out of nothing. Life arose and evolution does 581 01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:29.600 not need God. So, that' s what is being taught today in 582 01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:32.960 most of the world' s universities. Our young people are being told that 583 01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:41.359 believing in God is a matter for unintelligent people, that it is a crutch, 584 01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:45.880 it is a help that some people require, but that in reality, 585 01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:50.000 all that is false, all that is a myth, that science is incompatible 586 01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:54.960 with the Christian faith, that science does not need God at all, that 587 01:08:55.039 --> 01:08:59.880 can explain it all in God. Well, I don' t think that 588 01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:02.640 ' s true, it' s the other way around. I think it 589 01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:09.479 is quite the opposite and that is why I have written this book as a 590 01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:18.760 response to that scientific atheism that is preached today from the university pulpits that there 591 01:09:19.920 --> 01:09:23.479 are also during the last decades. In fact, what has happened in the 592 01:09:23.520 --> 01:09:30.000 world of science is that a lot of scientific evidence has been accumulating that points 593 01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:35.880 in the same direction, that is, points towards an intelligent activity in the 594 01:09:35.960 --> 01:09:42.560 origin of life and not chance and not chance, for example, in this 595 01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:49.159 book to God by Adner. Where I focus most is on the biological information 596 01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:57.039 that has to possess the molecule of soxiribonucleic acid, that is, the famous 597 01:09:57.319 --> 01:10:05.199 DNA. In addition, all the structures within the cell when you see how 598 01:10:05.239 --> 01:10:12.560 they interact with each other, how they work, how they perform such precise 599 01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:17.079 functions, so accurate, and, in addition, functions that transcend, that 600 01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:27.760 is, they go beyond their own individual components within the cell. The cell 601 01:10:27.800 --> 01:10:32.119 is made up of atoms, like all matter, but it is formed by 602 01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:39.479 very complex molecules, by more chromoleculas that form microscopic organelles, which interact with 603 01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:45.920 each other as if they were clockpieces pieces of an immense factory. And when 604 01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:50.079 you analyze these individual components, you find them relatively simple. And you wonder. 605 01:10:50.119 --> 01:10:55.479 How is it possible that these simple things formed by atoms of iron, 606 01:10:55.600 --> 01:11:00.199 magnesium, sodium depasium? How is it possible and that these relatively simple things 607 01:11:01.039 --> 01:11:09.319 do such intelligent functions or jobs. Of course, obviously, that leads us 608 01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:13.840 to think that all living beings, that DNA cells, that everything that composes 609 01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:26.600 us has required intelligent planning. And so written this interesting book preamble there is 610 01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:34.880 consensus for the affectation of intelligent design. There is currently no consensus. This 611 01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:41.239 is precisely one of the accusations made by its opponents, who are the majority 612 01:11:41.239 --> 01:11:47.560 of scientists, to intelligent design. For example, intelligent design is said to 613 01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:55.039 violate scientific consensus. It goes against consensus And because, of course, consensus 614 01:11:55.079 --> 01:12:00.399 is evolutionary and intelligent design questions that everything that all living beings have been made 615 01:12:00.479 --> 01:12:05.119 by the method of evolution. Of course, most scientists in the world are 616 01:12:05.199 --> 01:12:14.720 Darwinists. But of course it is true that it violates scientific consensus. But 617 01:12:14.840 --> 01:12:19.199 the scientific consensus also violated it in its copernical era, for example Galileo, 618 01:12:20.399 --> 01:12:29.439 Keppler, Newton, even Charles Darwin himself. Carlos Darwin violated the scientific consensus 619 01:12:29.479 --> 01:12:33.079 because in his time they were all creationists, they were all in favour of 620 01:12:33.159 --> 01:12:39.720 a god he had designed, and Darwin violated the scientific consensus. I believe 621 01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:46.079 that the purpose of science is not to preserve scientific consensus, but to provide 622 01:12:46.880 --> 01:12:53.920 accurate knowledge of the universe. And that, then, sometimes requires being willing 623 01:12:54.000 --> 01:13:00.119 to break the consensus. The movement of intelligent design has taken three decades, 624 01:13:01.359 --> 01:13:04.640 more than three decades, thirty years, spreading throughout the world its belief that 625 01:13:06.600 --> 01:13:15.840 everything we see in nature depends on an original design. Smart design began in 626 01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:19.399 the year in a thousand nine hundred and eighty- four, when a group 627 01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:26.920 of biochemists, Charles Tacton and others published a book in English called The Mystery 628 01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:34.000 of the Origin of Life. That book was like a biochemical challenge to Darwinism, 629 01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:41.039 and there the concept of intelligent design was used for the first time to 630 01:13:41.119 --> 01:13:44.720 refer to the origin of life. Then came more scientists, more thinkers. 631 01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:53.119 He then added Law Professor Phillip Johnson, who wrote a book that is translated 632 01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:57.199 into Spanish, which is a process to Darwin. This was already the case 633 01:13:57.319 --> 01:14:02.720 in the early part of almost two years, in the 1990s. In a 634 01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:09.159 thousand nine hundred and ninety- one, then came biochemist Michael J. Biji, 635 01:14:09.680 --> 01:14:13.319 who also wrote a book that is translated into Spanish, Darwin' s 636 01:14:13.399 --> 01:14:16.680 Black Box. In the ninety- six came a mathematician and philosopher like William 637 01:14:16.760 --> 01:14:24.079 Densky, who wrote The Smart Digeño, and there they also added good. 638 01:14:25.439 --> 01:14:30.079 Today there are thousands of scientists who are part of the ranks of intelligent design, 639 01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:35.279 especially in the Anglo- Saxon world, but of course they remain a 640 01:14:36.039 --> 01:14:40.920 minority in the general scientific world. And here in Spain that good, because 641 01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:45.439 here those who speak or who talk about intelligent design. We are immediately talking 642 01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:50.199 about fanatics, pseudo- scientists, creationists, as they say, creationists. 643 01:14:51.840 --> 01:15:00.119 These people are as rare as the Americans. Even within Protestantism there are evolutionists, 644 01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:05.439 belligerents and intransigents with intelligent design. That' s already harder to understand, 645 01:15:05.479 --> 01:15:08.720 because that' s the way it is, it' s a reality. 646 01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:17.279 One can understand that an atheist, of course, is going to explain 647 01:15:17.319 --> 01:15:21.439 the origin of the world if there is no God, for he has no 648 01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:29.399 choice but to appeal the evolution of matter to change. But clear to a 649 01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:34.720 believer, for it is different, because there are many believers who say good 650 01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:39.720 is that God has been able to create through evolution. Yes, it' 651 01:15:39.720 --> 01:15:41.600 s true, God has been able to do it. So in the evangelical 652 01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:46.840 field too, there would be a whole range of people. Not only are 653 01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:51.560 there creationists of the earth, young creationists of the earth, and supporters of 654 01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:57.800 intelligent design, but there are also theistic evolutionists who believe that God has used 655 01:15:57.880 --> 01:16:02.680 the mechodo of evolution. You also talk to us in your book about a 656 01:16:02.680 --> 01:16:08.680 lot of interesting things, lots of DNA to God for DNA. And one 657 01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:12.720 of the particularities is that it proposes intelligent design, and this is what we 658 01:16:12.720 --> 01:16:15.479 ' re talking about. But you' re telling us about Darwin' s 659 01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:20.000 dangerous idea and what that dangerous or dangerous Darwinist ideas are. Yes, well, 660 01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:26.560 I' m talking about Darwin' s dangerous idea, because it turns 661 01:16:26.640 --> 01:16:30.199 out that in the nineties, in nine hundred and ninety- five, the 662 01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:34.960 atheist philosopher Daniel Dennett, who I mentioned earlier wrote a book that was called 663 01:16:35.399 --> 01:16:42.000 Darwin' s dangerous idea, and he said in that book that the theory 664 01:16:42.039 --> 01:16:46.640 of evolution is a dangerous idea because they check sacred myths, that is, 665 01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:54.359 all religions that, according to him, would only serve to deceive ourselves. 666 01:16:56.640 --> 01:17:01.880 Religions would be human inventions, but without real basis. According to Dennett, 667 01:17:03.079 --> 01:17:10.920 when Darwin proposed his scientific mechanism of natural selection, he uncovered as a kind 668 01:17:10.960 --> 01:17:16.880 of bitter cake that was nihilism, that is, nothing can be considered sacred, 669 01:17:17.319 --> 01:17:21.840 because nothing makes sense. Everything depends on chance, everything depends on necessity, 670 01:17:23.520 --> 01:17:27.720 and he said in his book that God was becoming something like the Pope, 671 01:17:29.079 --> 01:17:31.960 not the myth of childhood, that does not really exist, Now, 672 01:17:32.439 --> 01:17:39.439 when evolutionism leaves the field of science and becomes a naturalistic ideology, atheist, 673 01:17:40.359 --> 01:17:49.159 I wonder why it is not generating the same thing that Bennet denounces in his 674 01:17:49.720 --> 01:17:56.039 book, that is, it is not generating a myth that inculcates children, 675 01:17:56.359 --> 01:18:00.439 in waves, schools, in institutes and in the university, the myth of 676 01:18:00.439 --> 01:18:02.720 saying that everything depends on the random god and that there is no intelligent designer. 677 01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:16.159 Of course the problem. The problem arises when many scientists and thinkers around 678 01:18:16.279 --> 01:18:23.760 the world begin to question the mechanisms of the evolution of arbinist and, as 679 01:18:23.880 --> 01:18:32.760 a consequence, question this worldview of atheistic naturalism and doubt arises. It' 680 01:18:33.039 --> 01:18:40.359 s just the design we see in living things. It' s just apparent 681 01:18:41.439 --> 01:18:45.640 or it' s really a real design. This is due exclusively to random 682 01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:49.720 mutations and wisdom, between quotation marks of natural selection, or perhaps there is 683 01:18:50.319 --> 01:18:58.079 a real designer who has designed everything, because if that were the case, 684 01:18:58.399 --> 01:19:05.600 then the pretensions of materialistic naturalism would fall completely apart. There is therefore the 685 01:19:05.640 --> 01:19:13.520 crux of the matter. This is the controversial theory of intelligent design, because 686 01:19:13.560 --> 01:19:17.680 intelligent design comes to say that the mechanisms proposed by Darwing, natural selection, 687 01:19:18.000 --> 01:19:28.920 mutations of chance are not enough to explain everything we see in nature. If 688 01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:34.319 Darwing' s theory is dangerous for theism, for believers, for whom we 689 01:19:34.399 --> 01:19:39.399 believe that there is a god who has created, as Dennet said, I 690 01:19:40.279 --> 01:19:46.479 believe that the theory of design is also dangerous for atheism, because it breaks 691 01:19:47.680 --> 01:19:56.520 its foundations and talking about the origin of life, you talk to us about 692 01:19:56.640 --> 01:20:00.640 problems for the chemical evolution of life. What are you going to be questioning 693 01:20:00.680 --> 01:20:06.920 this matter about? Well, then, to see now in the world, 694 01:20:08.239 --> 01:20:14.920 in the evolutionary mentality that currently dominates our society, there is a theory that 695 01:20:15.279 --> 01:20:17.079 is part of the theory of evolution, which is what is called the theory 696 01:20:17.119 --> 01:20:25.560 of biopollesis, conigriega biopollesis. What does this mean? Well, biopollesis assumes 697 01:20:25.640 --> 01:20:32.560 that the first cells that formed on earth arose by evolution from dead matter, 698 01:20:33.560 --> 01:20:45.039 i e from the inorganic matter of the chemical elements. But, of course, 699 01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:51.319 this poses a whole series of drawbacks to what are the drawbacks of that 700 01:20:51.399 --> 01:20:59.880 theory of good biopolisis. The first is that it confuses. It confuses the 701 01:20:59.920 --> 01:21:06.199 shape of the first complicated molecules, of the first proteins, of the nucleic 702 01:21:06.279 --> 01:21:13.439 acids of DNA. This is what in biology is called polymers. Biological polymers. 703 01:21:13.520 --> 01:21:17.439 Polymers means a very long macromolecule, a molecule that has a very long 704 01:21:17.560 --> 01:21:23.680 chain. It is a polymer, because it makes a confusion between the formation 705 01:21:23.800 --> 01:21:29.560 of the biological polymers that are currently occurring within our cells. It' s 706 01:21:29.600 --> 01:21:31.000 a process that happens that we can study it or we can see it. 707 01:21:32.159 --> 01:21:39.239 It confuses the formation of biological polymers with monomers, i e piececitas that serve 708 01:21:40.079 --> 01:21:47.279 to construct these polymers. A polymer would be like a pearl necklace and a 709 01:21:47.520 --> 01:21:53.199 single pearl would be a monomer. For example, a polymer is a protein, 710 01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:58.199 which would be its monomer. An amino acid, an aminoacir of form 711 01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:01.079 proteins, a polymer would be that of N which is its monomer, since 712 01:22:01.279 --> 01:22:09.319 the nucleotides that are the piececitas, the molecules that constitute in DNA. Now, 713 01:22:09.479 --> 01:22:14.399 here the confusion is now we see how polymers are formed within cells, 714 01:22:14.560 --> 01:22:18.600 but how the first polymer was formed the first time in the origin of the 715 01:22:18.680 --> 01:22:25.159 world. One thing is what we see how they are formed now with all 716 01:22:25.560 --> 01:22:28.840 the mechanisms and existing, with all the molecules they have. And another is 717 01:22:28.920 --> 01:22:33.359 how it should have been at the beginning, that is, that polymerization is 718 01:22:33.560 --> 01:22:38.640 a function proper to the laws of chemistry and biochemistry that currently occurs inside cells, 719 01:22:38.800 --> 01:22:46.079 but never occurs outside cells. What is observed today in nature, especially 720 01:22:46.079 --> 01:22:54.760 when organisms die, is a great tendency for polymers of any molecule of gluz 721 01:22:55.000 --> 01:23:00.800 and two lipid nucleic void proteins to spontaneously transform into the monomers that constitute them. 722 01:23:04.159 --> 01:23:06.000 That' s right, we' ll see him now. What we 723 01:23:06.079 --> 01:23:12.199 don' t see is the opposite. We do not see that monomers never 724 01:23:12.359 --> 01:23:16.560 unite by themselves and constitute polymers outside cells. That never happens and this is 725 01:23:16.640 --> 01:23:26.119 a serious difficulty. A second drawback to the chemical evolution of life is also 726 01:23:26.239 --> 01:23:30.520 posed by the origin of the nucleotides, of the monomers that constitute DNA. 727 01:23:31.479 --> 01:23:39.520 How they could be formed, randomly molecules in these molecules so complex that they 728 01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:43.640 constitute DNA or RNA, For today the truth is that no one knows. 729 01:23:44.439 --> 01:23:49.600 Many hypotheses have been put forward, but no definitive, none that is universally 730 01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:55.399 accepted. For example, it has been said and this was discussed more meticulously 731 01:23:55.720 --> 01:23:59.039 in my book. It has been said that well, that that has nothing 732 01:23:59.119 --> 01:24:03.800 to explain, that how polymers are formed, well it is a thing that, 733 01:24:04.079 --> 01:24:08.039 as they are there, neither do I know at all how they were 734 01:24:08.039 --> 01:24:10.119 formed. The truth is that they exist and that they work. But good 735 01:24:11.079 --> 01:24:14.079 to say that they don' t have an explanation, it' s not 736 01:24:14.079 --> 01:24:16.840 explaining anything. Others say that it was pure chance that happens that, of 737 01:24:16.840 --> 01:24:24.279 course mathematically, it has been seen that to make a single protein of 200 738 01:24:24.359 --> 01:24:29.439 amino acids by chance, it is as if you touch the lottery ten years 739 01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:33.600 in a row. There' s a lot more complicated than that. Others 740 01:24:33.720 --> 01:24:40.279 say there was a natural selection before life, but how natural selection can work 741 01:24:40.359 --> 01:24:48.640 or function with molecules that do not reproduce. Natural selection works with beings that 742 01:24:48.640 --> 01:24:53.880 reproduce, have offspring and select the best and eliminate the worst, but if 743 01:24:53.960 --> 01:24:57.880 molecules are unique and do not reproduce, it is difficult for there to be 744 01:24:57.960 --> 01:25:01.920 a natural selection. Others say good it is that in the bowels of matter, 745 01:25:02.119 --> 01:25:09.560 in atoms, there are mysterious laws of self- organization that force molecules 746 01:25:09.720 --> 01:25:15.720 to join together in increasingly complex, more sophisticated molecules and in the end life 747 01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:19.920 appears. Okay. It has been searching for many years and no law of 748 01:25:19.920 --> 01:25:25.840 self- organization has been found. And finally, the theory that prevails today 749 01:25:26.640 --> 01:25:29.720 in the world of biology, which is what is called the world of RN 750 01:25:29.800 --> 01:25:36.279 or the hypothesis of the world of RN. Of course, as we saw, 751 01:25:36.439 --> 01:25:44.079 DNA does not duplicate itself to form other beings, because DNA with a 752 01:25:44.079 --> 01:25:48.359 lot of information and is a molecule that is difficult to break, even fossils, 753 01:25:49.479 --> 01:25:55.239 from fossils that have been buried for many years, can be extracted DNA. 754 01:25:56.760 --> 01:26:00.600 I mean, it' s a super stable molecule, which is hard 755 01:26:00.880 --> 01:26:03.239 to mess up, because maybe it thought it was good at best. DNA 756 01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:08.560 didn' t, but maybe RNA, RNA might have started to double, 757 01:26:08.720 --> 01:26:15.159 and that could have started to form life. The problem is that there are 758 01:26:15.279 --> 01:26:23.640 currently no self- replicating RNA molecules that double in living cells. The researchers, 759 01:26:23.680 --> 01:26:27.960 who support this chemical origin of life, try to test this hypothesis, 760 01:26:28.600 --> 01:26:34.199 thus imagining what the earthly environment would be like at that time. They try 761 01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:40.720 to simulate the hypothetical world of RN in the laboratory to try to create an 762 01:26:40.760 --> 01:26:46.039 RNA molecule that is able to reproduce itself. However, that replicating structure has 763 01:26:46.439 --> 01:26:53.479 not been found so far and here it is necessary to point out a fact 764 01:26:53.479 --> 01:26:58.039 is curious, for example, to try to get those hypothetical molecules that have 765 01:26:58.119 --> 01:27:03.680 already been named the ribacimas, with reproductive capacity, because in the experiments that 766 01:27:03.760 --> 01:27:11.279 are carried out in the laboratory, because it requires a whole display of impressive 767 01:27:11.640 --> 01:27:18.239 and clear chemical technology, one wonders could be given all these circumstances so precise, 768 01:27:19.039 --> 01:27:27.960 so concrete in the hypothetical primitive environment. Chemical evolution, which by definition 769 01:27:28.039 --> 01:27:31.560 is blind, is subject to laws that have no purpose at random, may 770 01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:41.600 be capable of such a waste of intelligence and sophisticated chemical manipulation. How nature 771 01:27:41.640 --> 01:27:46.640 was going to hijack the desired compounds, turning them away from the cross- 772 01:27:47.159 --> 01:27:53.680 reactions that could be destructive and fatal without the techniques and intelligent design of the 773 01:27:54.079 --> 01:27:58.279 experiments they use ho and these researchers. Well, I think that sometimes many 774 01:27:58.640 --> 01:28:04.199 of these researches that are published in scientific journals, suffer from a minimal critical 775 01:28:04.239 --> 01:28:11.079 analysis because of that blind faith in evolutionism, that is, the researcher goes 776 01:28:12.119 --> 01:28:15.920 to nature convinced that there has been evolution and has to prove the cost of 777 01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:25.960 it. Although nature the results are sometimes opposite. The truth is that science 778 01:28:26.119 --> 01:28:32.720 today has no explanation for the origin of life. Living beings present a fundamental 779 01:28:32.880 --> 01:28:44.359 tendency towards purpose, toward purpose. Every living being is oriented towards doing something 780 01:28:44.479 --> 01:28:47.079 concrete to live in the world in which he lives. And when you go 781 01:28:47.319 --> 01:28:54.279 to inanimate matter, to inorganic matter. Well, that purpose, that purpose, 782 01:28:54.359 --> 01:28:58.560 is nowhere to be seen. Organisms are characterized by having goals, goals 783 01:28:59.279 --> 01:29:04.199 or purposes in themselves, but the inorganic does not show such a trend. 784 01:29:05.640 --> 01:29:13.039 How all this information characteristic of the living could arise from a simple collection of 785 01:29:13.119 --> 01:29:19.239 non- intelligent molecules, subjected to blind and purposeless forces, instead of choosing 786 01:29:19.279 --> 01:29:25.439 to believe the impossible, that is, that life began by chance spontaneously. 787 01:29:27.560 --> 01:29:33.119 Rather, I believe that we have powerful reasons to accept the idea of design, 788 01:29:33.800 --> 01:29:39.000 the idea of creation by a wise God as revealed in the pages of 789 01:29:39.479 --> 01:29:47.960 the Bible. Gentlemen, we are talking to Dr Antonio Cruz and we are 790 01:29:48.039 --> 01:29:51.239 talking about a topic that is the theme of his book, of his latest 791 01:29:51.359 --> 01:29:58.760 book published by Editorial Clielo has at his disposal in any evangelical bookstore in Spain 792 01:29:58.840 --> 01:30:02.520 or directly through Editorial clien they can ask him goodbye for the DNA that proposes 793 01:30:03.279 --> 01:30:13.000 intelligent design. And I see that after this powerful argument that I would say 794 01:30:13.079 --> 01:30:19.720 very conclusive as to defined criteria on the subject in question, the question is 795 01:30:19.800 --> 01:30:25.720 scientific, Antonio, intelligent design, because there is the question of many. 796 01:30:27.800 --> 01:30:31.279 It is scientific or it is not scientific intelligent design. Well, I think 797 01:30:31.319 --> 01:30:36.640 it is, even if it is sometimes said that intelligent design violates the scientific 798 01:30:36.960 --> 01:30:46.319 method. This is said a lot. Scientific methods often verify hypotheses through demonstrations, 799 01:30:47.800 --> 01:30:54.399 and intelligent design is precisely what it does, for example, to verify 800 01:30:54.479 --> 01:30:59.600 the hypothesis that a biological system, for example, an eye, ear or 801 01:30:59.680 --> 01:31:08.840 blood clotting mechanism, was designed or not designed. What smart design does. 802 01:31:10.039 --> 01:31:17.680 Well, it determines whether the mechanisms envisaged by Darwinist evolution are capable of producing 803 01:31:18.520 --> 01:31:25.760 these organs and these functions are either not capable. And this is scientific. 804 01:31:27.319 --> 01:31:30.479 Sometimes it is said, for example, that intelligent design impedes the progress of 805 01:31:30.560 --> 01:31:35.279 good science. I think it' s the other way around. Intelligent design 806 01:31:35.319 --> 01:31:43.159 stimulates scientific progress, while sometimes Darwinism makes it difficult. For example, evolutionism 807 01:31:43.199 --> 01:31:49.960 predicts and this has recently happened in the world of science. Evolutionism predicts that 808 01:31:50.159 --> 01:31:58.239 many pieces of DNA are useless, especially most DNA that do not complement any 809 01:31:58.359 --> 01:32:02.880 function, and intelligent design says well if there really is a designer, how 810 01:32:03.079 --> 01:32:13.520 a wise designer goes to make pieces of DNA that are useless. It will 811 01:32:13.560 --> 01:32:17.399 not be that we have not yet found a specific function for it and we 812 01:32:17.399 --> 01:32:18.880 do not yet know enough. Let' s study more. In other words, 813 01:32:19.079 --> 01:32:28.520 intelligent design promotes research to discover possible functions in such DNA. Garbage, 814 01:32:28.720 --> 01:32:30.880 that' s what you' ve been called. Ninety- eight percent of 815 01:32:30.920 --> 01:32:34.680 DNA was said to be garbage, which was useless at all. That was 816 01:32:34.760 --> 01:32:43.279 an evolutionary prejudice, because it was thought that throughout those geologic times. Throughout 817 01:32:43.359 --> 01:32:47.000 the evolution, many genes had gone away many mutations, had been producing garbage 818 01:32:47.079 --> 01:32:51.560 that had been accumulating because they initially served something, but then lost that functionality 819 01:32:51.560 --> 01:32:59.039 and have been accumulating in the human genome. And, therefore, almost ninety 820 01:32:59.279 --> 01:33:02.720 - eight percent was useless In this sense, I believe that intelligent design was 821 01:33:02.840 --> 01:33:12.319 much more justified than Darwinism and guaranteed the objectivity of that of science. Therefore, 822 01:33:12.600 --> 01:33:16.279 intelligent design cannot prevent the progress of science, but quite the contrary, 823 01:33:16.600 --> 01:33:19.439 like what has happened with junk DNA, which we have seen as a fallacy. 824 01:33:24.439 --> 01:33:27.319 There wasn' t ninety- eight percent trash. Now we know that 825 01:33:27.479 --> 01:33:31.560 garbage had a specific function. Yeah, that' s true that that DNA 826 01:33:31.680 --> 01:33:36.479 doesn' t make proteins like functional DNA, like it does, like genes, 827 01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:41.439 but it turns out to be useful for a lot of other things. 828 01:33:42.079 --> 01:33:44.920 For example, it was a bit like saying. Let' s imagine that 829 01:33:45.039 --> 01:33:49.319 we have a factory that manufactures ferrari cars not month. It just makes high 830 01:33:49.720 --> 01:33:54.399 - end cars, racing ferras. And in that factory there are a hundred 831 01:33:56.319 --> 01:34:00.840 workers, only two factory workers. Two percent are working riding cars and the 832 01:34:00.279 --> 01:34:04.439 rest of the operators ninety- eight are sitting watching the two of them work 833 01:34:04.560 --> 01:34:09.359 and one says good, but this is not feasible. There are only two 834 01:34:09.479 --> 01:34:14.359 who work. The rest is useless. But it turns out that when you 835 01:34:14.439 --> 01:34:16.920 do a little more research in that factory, you see that out of those 836 01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:23.079 ninety- eight you' re looking at there are some who do the advertising 837 01:34:23.079 --> 01:34:25.239 of those cars to sell them. There are others who are in charge of 838 01:34:25.359 --> 01:34:30.199 cleaning the factory. There are others in charge of the payroll of the Far 839 01:34:30.319 --> 01:34:33.840 administration. The ninety- eight are useful for concrete things, although it is 840 01:34:33.920 --> 01:34:39.279 not directly for making cars, but it is for things that will make it 841 01:34:39.359 --> 01:34:42.000 easier for the factory to function well and for those cars to have a way 842 01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:45.319 out. Well, the same thing happened with the D N A. Today 843 01:34:45.640 --> 01:34:50.079 we know that that ninety- eight percent was fictitious and that most of the 844 01:34:50.159 --> 01:34:55.239 DNA has a functionality. It' s good, it' s good for 845 01:34:55.239 --> 01:34:59.439 something. Smart design has been more effective there than Darwinism, for example. 846 01:35:00.680 --> 01:35:10.359 Interesting explanation for those who are precisely faced with the strong doubt in the collective 847 01:35:10.359 --> 01:35:15.920 imagination, those of the scientific community or their affections. In your book you 848 01:35:15.960 --> 01:35:19.479 also talk about the design of the universe and the Big Bam theory, among 849 01:35:19.600 --> 01:35:24.600 other things. Let' s get this explanation a little ahead of us. 850 01:35:25.840 --> 01:35:30.840 I do speak because well, the origin of the universe. The origin of 851 01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:33.560 the universe is the same as the origin of life and the origin of DNA 852 01:35:33.640 --> 01:35:42.920 information. Some atheist scientists say today that the order and design that nature shows 853 01:35:43.039 --> 01:35:49.840 is just an anthropic coincidence, it is said, a cosmic coincidence. I 854 01:35:49.920 --> 01:35:58.000 mean, they agree to accept the incredible improbability of the universe being organized as 855 01:35:58.119 --> 01:36:02.279 it is, but they explain it by saying that if it wasn' t, 856 01:36:02.600 --> 01:36:08.119 if it weren' t, we human beings wouldn' t be here 857 01:36:08.359 --> 01:36:10.039 to see it clearly, that' s a bit of a poor explanation. 858 01:36:11.199 --> 01:36:15.680 I think this sounds more like an excuse than an explanation. Physics and cosmology 859 01:36:15.720 --> 01:36:26.560 have pointed out more than seventy anthropic coincidences, that is, that in the 860 01:36:27.439 --> 01:36:34.399 cosmos indispensable for the Universe to sustain intelligent life on Earth. That is, 861 01:36:34.880 --> 01:36:43.560 there are seventy laws, seventy physical, chemical, mathematical constants in the laws 862 01:36:43.720 --> 01:36:50.000 of the Universe that have to be as they are, exactly for there to 863 01:36:50.079 --> 01:36:54.760 be men and women on earth, that is, if any of those laws 864 01:36:54.840 --> 01:36:57.800 were to change as little as possible, life on our planet would not be 865 01:36:57.800 --> 01:37:02.920 possible. Coincidences such as, for example, the value of the four fundamental 866 01:37:03.319 --> 01:37:10.399 forces of the Universe, the strong nuclear force, which is the force by 867 01:37:10.479 --> 01:37:17.760 which electrons and protons of the nucleus are attracted in atoms. Weak nuclear force, 868 01:37:18.119 --> 01:37:24.319 electromagnetic force, gravity force, etcetera, etcetera. And many more constants 869 01:37:24.680 --> 01:37:28.119 have to be as they are, worth what they are worth to make life 870 01:37:28.159 --> 01:37:33.720 here possible. So the question is how all the ingredients, the constants, 871 01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:41.359 these necessary forces came up at the right time and in the right measure to 872 01:37:42.159 --> 01:37:45.800 produce a universe capable of harboring life. Only two answers have been given to 873 01:37:45.880 --> 01:37:54.439 this question. Random or design. However, when mathematics is used, design 874 01:37:54.479 --> 01:38:03.520 is far more than random. This was calculated by an evolutionist scientist, Oxford 875 01:38:03.600 --> 01:38:11.279 University mathematician, Rogertten Rose, who entertained himself precisely in making the right calculations 876 01:38:11.439 --> 01:38:16.439 and wrote. After this, he wrote a book and in that book he 877 01:38:17.119 --> 01:38:21.680 says that the creator is curious the phrase he says. The creator had a 878 01:38:21.800 --> 01:38:30.680 lot of aim, a divine precision on the one hand between a ten to 879 01:38:30.840 --> 01:38:35.319 ten and that second ten to a hundred and twenty- three, that is, 880 01:38:35.319 --> 01:38:42.359 an extraordinary figure. This figure is greater than the number of subatomic particles 881 01:38:42.479 --> 01:38:45.560 that are supposed to possess the entire universe, that is, in practice a 882 01:38:45.640 --> 01:38:51.800 possibility like that for the big bang to occur and give rise to the universe 883 01:38:51.880 --> 01:38:59.439 that we know by chance is infinitely less than what is considered or n or 884 01:38:59.640 --> 01:39:02.920 zero from the mathematical point of view. Actually, what pen Rose means here 885 01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:11.720 is that the origin of the cosmos by chance is simply impossible. It is 886 01:39:12.479 --> 01:39:16.960 better to believe in God' s reality than in the wheel of mathematics and 887 01:39:17.000 --> 01:39:23.479 chance, how interesting, ladies and gentlemen, a theme to God by DNA. 888 01:39:25.000 --> 01:39:30.039 We are talking about intelligent design and other issues now, such as the 889 01:39:30.119 --> 01:39:36.039 design of the universe and the Big Band theory, among other questions that Dr 890 01:39:36.199 --> 01:39:43.520 Antonio Cruz explains to us. Antonio, when you ask yourself who designed the 891 01:39:43.640 --> 01:39:46.960 DNA of genes, you also talk to us there, in that section of 892 01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:53.880 the mystery of consciousness, something unreplicable for the evolutionary community, something in which 893 01:39:53.960 --> 01:39:59.880 they find no possible replica convincing, argumentally and of the science of the soul 894 01:40:00.199 --> 01:40:04.640 also that this other edition. Yeah, yeah, well, the molecule of 895 01:40:05.239 --> 01:40:14.239 the DNA soxocribnocleic acid. I believe it is a structure perfectly designed to transmit 896 01:40:14.319 --> 01:40:19.600 information and to give precise orders from the core of each of the living crucibles 897 01:40:19.720 --> 01:40:26.840 that we have in the body. And the fact that it is a message 898 01:40:27.399 --> 01:40:35.560 with information that evidences design inevitably leads to metaphysical questions to transcendent questions, because 899 01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:44.000 messages and designs are not created alone, but require that there be an intelligent 900 01:40:44.439 --> 01:40:50.359 messenger, that there be a designer. The forces of nature by themselves are 901 01:40:50.439 --> 01:40:59.439 incapable of generating information. In the same way as, for example, the 902 01:40:59.520 --> 01:41:04.760 words in a book have not been created by molecular forces of the ink paper. 903 01:41:08.720 --> 01:41:11.680 We assume that, behind the words of a book and the phrases of 904 01:41:11.720 --> 01:41:16.239 a book, there is a mind that is the author of the book that 905 01:41:16.319 --> 01:41:20.039 has designed the book. Well, I think the one who designed the DNA 906 01:41:20.159 --> 01:41:27.840 molecule must also possess an intelligent mind. And if you have an intelligent mind, 907 01:41:28.479 --> 01:41:33.319 this allows us to think of God, as the apostle Paul wrote. 908 01:41:34.079 --> 01:41:39.199 I' m not discovering anything new. Thousands of years ago Paul wrote it. 909 01:41:39.880 --> 01:41:45.000 The invisible things of God become clearly visible, being understood by the things 910 01:41:45.039 --> 01:41:50.600 made, that is, nature itself. What we see in nature leads us 911 01:41:50.680 --> 01:41:56.880 to metaphysics, to the idea of the existence of God and, on the 912 01:41:57.000 --> 01:42:00.760 other hand, linked with all this, the mind, both the mind of 913 01:42:00.840 --> 01:42:06.520 God and in our mind, leads us to talk about consciousness. And consciousness 914 01:42:06.640 --> 01:42:14.680 leads us to the soul or to human spirituality. Now I remember one of 915 01:42:15.720 --> 01:42:20.239 the two discoverers of the DNA molecule who were awarded the Nobel Prize in Medicine 916 01:42:20.239 --> 01:42:26.680 precisely for that work. Dr. Francis Creek, published a very interesting book 917 01:42:26.840 --> 01:42:30.039 in the year, I think it was in the ninety- four thousand nine 918 01:42:30.039 --> 01:42:34.920 hundred and ninety- four that was called The Scientific Search of the Soul. 919 01:42:36.079 --> 01:42:43.119 And in that book an entire biologist like him, biochemist like him, what 920 01:42:43.239 --> 01:42:47.960 he did not pursue was precisely that seeking the soul, but rather the opposite, 921 01:42:48.399 --> 01:42:53.600 because he was an atheist did not believe in the soul, that is, 922 01:42:53.880 --> 01:42:57.479 he wanted to prove that the soul does not exist, that there is 923 01:42:58.119 --> 01:43:02.399 no spiritual essence in man that remains independently of the physical body, or transcends 924 01:43:02.399 --> 01:43:10.359 the physical body. Well, at the end of the book it leaves us 925 01:43:10.439 --> 01:43:15.560 as we were at the beginning, that is, science still doesn' t 926 01:43:15.640 --> 01:43:17.800 know what the soul is and today things haven' t changed. It is 927 01:43:18.359 --> 01:43:28.520 the same because no physiological theory or theory that scientific studies of the human body 928 01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:33.359 can ever explain consciousness or spirituality, because that is something that transcends matter. 929 01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:42.640 Consciousness is not matter, even if it is based on brain neurons. Consciousness 930 01:43:42.760 --> 01:43:47.119 is something that is above the brain. It is true that without a brain 931 01:43:47.239 --> 01:43:53.000 there is no consciousness, but consciousness is not the brain. They' re 932 01:43:53.079 --> 01:43:59.319 two different things. That is why science will never be able to define consciousness, 933 01:44:00.680 --> 01:44:03.199 say how it has arisen, how consciousness originated in the human being, 934 01:44:03.800 --> 01:44:09.079 where spirituality comes from. The theory of evolution will never be able to explain 935 01:44:09.079 --> 01:44:15.760 that, certainly. It is certainly an unknown one that can only be explained 936 01:44:15.960 --> 01:44:25.119 from a different perspective as the divine biblical optics. You talk about four evolutionisms, 937 01:44:25.680 --> 01:44:31.479 as well as some other creationist concepts. Explain to us these concepts, 938 01:44:31.640 --> 01:44:36.159 yes, well, sometimes we make the mistake of talking about evolutionism, Darwinism 939 01:44:36.239 --> 01:44:39.800 and so on, but we do not specify enough of what it is. 940 01:44:40.399 --> 01:44:46.439 Actually, there are at least four different evolutions. The first, for example, 941 01:44:46.479 --> 01:44:53.520 is naturalistic or atheistic evolutionism, that is, the evolutionism of the skeptics, 942 01:44:53.680 --> 01:44:56.000 of those who do not believe in God, of those who say that 943 01:44:56.079 --> 01:44:59.720 God does not exist that the soul also does not exist that all there is 944 01:45:00.119 --> 01:45:03.920 is the natural world what we can see observe, touch, measure, regret. 945 01:45:04.840 --> 01:45:11.760 Okay. That' s the worldview of the new atheism that has sustained 946 01:45:11.840 --> 01:45:18.319 and still sustains today very famous scientists, not only Rechard Dowkins and Francis Creek, 947 01:45:18.680 --> 01:45:25.640 for example, without Daniel Dennett, but people who, like Jack Monots 948 01:45:25.720 --> 01:45:30.760 and like many scientific thinkers throughout history, naturalistic evolutionism, the second evolutionism could 949 01:45:30.880 --> 01:45:40.640 be called the deist with D deist, because his supporters believe there has been 950 01:45:40.840 --> 01:45:45.279 a creator, they believe there has been a creator God, but he is 951 01:45:45.960 --> 01:45:49.399 a timid creator, that is, he is a creator who creates the world, 952 01:45:49.640 --> 01:45:56.399 creates the universe, but would no longer intervene in that world. He 953 01:45:56.479 --> 01:46:00.960 would intervene only through secondary causes of the laws that he would have established. 954 01:46:02.039 --> 01:46:11.239 This isthic evolutionism is typical of certain religiosities coming from Hinduism, Buddhism, etc. 955 01:46:13.800 --> 01:46:18.359 Then there is pantheistic evolutionism and it says the world is God. The 956 01:46:18.399 --> 01:46:24.159 world is the God himself that continually evolves. Everything is God and God is 957 01:46:24.239 --> 01:46:30.880 in everything. God is human, but God is also plant fish, stone, 958 01:46:30.159 --> 01:46:34.600 tree, or law of nature. It is curious, but this evolutionism, 959 01:46:36.159 --> 01:46:43.319 which also has oriental roots, is supported by many people today. And 960 01:46:43.439 --> 01:46:51.439 finally, it would be the theistic evolutionism that many believers of the monotheistic, 961 01:46:53.159 --> 01:47:00.520 Jewish, Christian and Muslim religions defend. Muslims few more Christians than Muslims. 962 01:47:00.319 --> 01:47:04.319 God creates the universe. God creates life, God creates human beings through evolution, 963 01:47:06.479 --> 01:47:13.600 through natural selection, roasting mutations and natural selection. And what this evolutionism 964 01:47:13.680 --> 01:47:20.239 somehow believes is that natural selection would be directed by the creator so that the 965 01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:26.399 human being would appear as the summit of creation, that is, that it 966 01:47:26.399 --> 01:47:31.199 would be a directed evolution. Sure, this is a problem. This last 967 01:47:31.319 --> 01:47:36.199 idea that God directs evolution is a problem that clashes with the first evolutionism, 968 01:47:36.880 --> 01:47:44.520 the naturalist, because naturalist evolutionism, that is, most scientists who sustain naturalism, 969 01:47:44.680 --> 01:47:48.119 believe that evolution is blind, that evolution has no purpose, that it 970 01:47:48.720 --> 01:47:51.920 has no destiny, it has no goal, that evolution is not directed towards 971 01:47:51.920 --> 01:47:58.520 any concrete end. Evolution may not be directed to man to the appearance of 972 01:47:58.560 --> 01:48:02.800 man. And that' s where there' s that disparity. There is 973 01:48:02.880 --> 01:48:11.840 a conflict between theistic evolutionism and atheistic or naturalistic evolutionism. Well, apart from 974 01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:17.039 this, there are the creationists, the creationists. There are creationists of the 975 01:48:17.199 --> 01:48:20.680 young land and creationists of the ancient land. Those of the young earth accept 976 01:48:21.159 --> 01:48:29.479 the Bible account of genesis. God created in six days of 24 hours. 977 01:48:29.680 --> 01:48:31.279 The world is six thousand years old and, in short, everything the Bible 978 01:48:31.319 --> 01:48:35.199 says, the Bible flood is exactly the same as the Bible says, and 979 01:48:35.279 --> 01:48:42.479 they have their studies. Of course this has generated. They have also done 980 01:48:42.560 --> 01:48:47.640 very good work in this regard on a scientific level, but always supporting the 981 01:48:48.119 --> 01:48:51.680 Bible based on the account of genesis. For their part, the creationists of 982 01:48:51.680 --> 01:48:59.199 ancient Earth believe that the days of genesis could correspond to great geological periods, 983 01:48:59.840 --> 01:49:04.079 that is, it should not be strictly taken as literal days of twenty- 984 01:49:04.319 --> 01:49:06.600 four hours. Even if I say and it was morning and it was evening, 985 01:49:08.199 --> 01:49:14.079 but in tomorrow also the Hebrew word used for tomorrow can mean beginning and 986 01:49:14.159 --> 01:49:16.520 the one used for evenings can also mean end, that is, They argue 987 01:49:16.560 --> 01:49:23.520 this fact and there they have also done great scientific work and there is a 988 01:49:23.600 --> 01:49:30.800 whole bibliography about it. And the last option of all of these would be 989 01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:36.159 intelligent design. Smart design is sometimes accused of being the same creationists as ever. 990 01:49:39.079 --> 01:49:41.760 But it' s not like that. There are differences. For example, 991 01:49:42.640 --> 01:49:47.439 intelligent design does not presuppose the existence of God, does not take the 992 01:49:47.600 --> 01:49:56.760 Bible account and tries to prove it scientifically in the letter, but only focuses 993 01:49:56.880 --> 01:50:01.920 on an argument of an instructive one seeking the best solution. That is, 994 01:50:02.319 --> 01:50:09.119 I study nature and see that living beings show, possess information and show a 995 01:50:09.199 --> 01:50:16.560 tendency that behind them has been a project, a planning. This could not 996 01:50:16.560 --> 01:50:20.399 be done by chance, by chance, and then now intelligent design never speaks 997 01:50:20.560 --> 01:50:30.000 of the identity of that intelligent designer. It may be the God of the 998 01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:33.119 Bible, but it could also be something else, that is, within the 999 01:50:33.239 --> 01:50:41.600 movement of intelligent design because there are even Gnostic people or people who don' 1000 01:50:41.680 --> 01:50:46.119 t know who this designer might be, but the designer that living beings show 1001 01:50:46.640 --> 01:50:48.560 design is clear and there' s the question. In short, all this 1002 01:50:48.600 --> 01:50:56.760 is like a range of possibilities around the topic of origins. These are Dr 1003 01:50:57.439 --> 01:51:00.239 Antonio Cruz' s reflections aloud, telling us about his latest book to God 1004 01:51:00.359 --> 01:51:04.680 for DNA and what intelligent design proposes, as these are the answers that you 1005 01:51:04.720 --> 01:51:10.880 are hearing today here on the train of life. Remember that you can purchase 1006 01:51:11.000 --> 01:51:15.279 this book through clien publisher you can only click editorial and there you send the 1007 01:51:15.359 --> 01:51:19.760 book from the publisher or through any evangelical bookstore. In many Spanish cities. 1008 01:51:20.960 --> 01:51:27.119 In short, Antonio, the theory of evolution is either a verifiable truth or 1009 01:51:27.359 --> 01:51:36.760 a socialized lie. Well, I think what is a verifiable truth that no 1010 01:51:38.479 --> 01:51:44.239 one is discussing is the variation of living beings or what is also called microevolution, 1011 01:51:44.680 --> 01:51:50.159 that is, the small changes that originate different races, varieties of animals, 1012 01:51:51.319 --> 01:51:58.600 of different plants within the basic types, of some basic types. It 1013 01:51:58.640 --> 01:52:05.359 is not dissusable that mutations exist. It is not disputed that these, that 1014 01:52:05.439 --> 01:52:13.920 mutations generally spoil our genetic heritage. Nor does anyone discuss the role of natural 1015 01:52:14.039 --> 01:52:21.359 selection as a conservative of species and a eliminator of mutants who appear in a 1016 01:52:21.720 --> 01:52:26.079 way and who are deficient in relation to the rest of the population. However, 1017 01:52:26.319 --> 01:52:34.399 the problem is to assume that these mutations can be beneficial, that is 1018 01:52:34.479 --> 01:52:42.119 to say, the hypothetical beneficial mutations that we see nowhere today. The examples 1019 01:52:42.119 --> 01:52:49.640 of beneficial mutations are children, but these beneficial mutations are supposed to have existed 1020 01:52:50.039 --> 01:52:55.880 and were favored by natural selection to create all the diversity, the incredible diversity 1021 01:52:55.960 --> 01:53:00.560 of life that exists on the planet today. Well, this is that it 1022 01:53:00.399 --> 01:53:05.720 assumes evolutionism and this is what is called macroevolution. And this is not proven. 1023 01:53:08.119 --> 01:53:11.960 I believe that this is the great foundational myth of our time that has 1024 01:53:12.079 --> 01:53:16.960 been implanted in society, despite the many drawbacks and gaps that they present. 1025 01:53:18.920 --> 01:53:26.279 And why it has been implanted in the collective imagination. Well, because science 1026 01:53:26.359 --> 01:53:32.399 said at first that it didn' t want to allow a divine foot on 1027 01:53:32.399 --> 01:53:40.159 its door. Everything has to be explained in a natural way, including the 1028 01:53:40.199 --> 01:53:44.479 creation of the world. That' s what science says. When there are 1029 01:53:44.560 --> 01:53:50.399 two alternatives to solving a problem, one that includes God and another that systematically 1030 01:53:50.479 --> 01:53:58.079 excludes him, science chooses the one that is not God, the one that 1031 01:53:58.199 --> 01:54:01.920 does not require God. Entry into the method of science, discards the possibility 1032 01:54:01.960 --> 01:54:08.359 of an intelligent designer. However, I believe that there are issues, there 1033 01:54:08.479 --> 01:54:12.039 are issues such as the theme of creation, such as the origin of life, 1034 01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:16.600 such as the origin of human consciousness, etc, to which science cannot 1035 01:54:16.880 --> 01:54:26.000 respond because they transcend it, because these issues enter the realm of miracle, 1036 01:54:26.560 --> 01:54:31.840 enter the realm of the supernatural and science can never, to certain problems give 1037 01:54:31.960 --> 01:54:44.319 them a physical material response, because they are supernatural, metaphysical issues. That 1038 01:54:44.399 --> 01:54:47.840 ' s the point. Without a doubt, you are listening, ladies and 1039 01:54:47.960 --> 01:54:55.039 gentlemen, to Dr Antonio Cruz, speaking to us about such an interesting subject 1040 01:54:55.159 --> 01:55:01.399 for all of us who are more than curious people who want to be moderately 1041 01:55:01.399 --> 01:55:06.880 informed about DNA. It has also been discussed in popular and scientific forums about 1042 01:55:08.479 --> 01:55:15.079 DNA, its origin, its code, its information and good to God for 1043 01:55:15.199 --> 01:55:20.239 DNA. It is a book that, in argument, explains everything that has 1044 01:55:20.359 --> 01:55:27.880 been said here much more and also about intelligent design. Many doubts arise. 1045 01:55:29.479 --> 01:55:33.319 In short, Antonio, in your last book, one of the previous ones 1046 01:55:33.399 --> 01:55:38.920 before this one, one of the last books, the new atheism you make 1047 01:55:38.960 --> 01:55:46.279 an argument by explaining with all sorts of data. Also, very convincing about 1048 01:55:46.359 --> 01:55:55.199 all this idea, all this general commitment, from many angles that there is 1049 01:55:55.279 --> 01:56:00.960 in implanting this anti- God idea in the imagination or why of this endeavor 1050 01:56:00.039 --> 01:56:09.800 And there in your previous book you also explain it. Okay. I believe 1051 01:56:09.880 --> 01:56:15.760 that the human being who does not believe in God, because belief predates science, 1052 01:56:16.600 --> 01:56:23.840 that is, faith predates reason. Then the person who does not believe 1053 01:56:23.880 --> 01:56:28.399 in God does not believe in the existence of God. How can the origin 1054 01:56:28.479 --> 01:56:34.039 of all things be explained, for, evidently, by appealing that nature has 1055 01:56:34.640 --> 01:56:43.560 made itself. But of course this is like divinizing nature. We don' 1056 01:56:43.640 --> 01:56:45.560 t believe in God, but we believe in nature. Nature, therefore, 1057 01:56:45.760 --> 01:56:54.039 comes to occupy the creative role that belongs to God. So, of course, 1058 01:56:54.680 --> 01:57:01.000 from this previous philosophy, from this previous conviction, from this previous ideology, 1059 01:57:02.520 --> 01:57:11.840 then science is used to corroborate that premise. And that' s why 1060 01:57:11.920 --> 01:57:15.279 so many scientists throughout history have said no. No. Here if there' 1061 01:57:15.680 --> 01:57:19.279 s something that tells us an intelligent design, that has to be false. 1062 01:57:19.319 --> 01:57:25.520 That must be ruled out, because nature God does not exist at the outset 1063 01:57:25.600 --> 01:57:29.720 and therefore, in some way, nature has had to do it. If 1064 01:57:29.840 --> 01:57:34.680 today we do not understand how it has happened, if natural selection is unable 1065 01:57:34.760 --> 01:57:39.960 and mutations explain how it has occurred, there must be some other natural mechanism, 1066 01:57:40.439 --> 01:57:45.600 because God does not exist. So, by that reasoning, for many 1067 01:57:45.680 --> 01:57:50.239 people are convinced that evolution, Darwin' s theory of evolution, by many 1068 01:57:50.239 --> 01:58:00.119 drawbacks and gaps and problems that may arise. It must be true, that 1069 01:58:00.119 --> 01:58:02.079 is, that it is ultimately accepted by faith rather than by scientific conviction. 1070 01:58:03.640 --> 01:58:08.600 Yes, it is paradoxical, but so it is paradoxical, it is stopped 1071 01:58:09.560 --> 01:58:13.880 and speaking of rationalism, of human reasoning, and the paradox is that, 1072 01:58:14.479 --> 01:58:19.960 in the end, it is a supreme act of faith, a truly uncertain 1073 01:58:20.039 --> 01:58:24.680 faith in faith, in faith. Well then, ladies and gentlemen, we 1074 01:58:24.720 --> 01:58:30.800 have made a very interesting journey with Dr Antonio Cruz on the subject, essentially 1075 01:58:30.880 --> 01:58:33.319 to God for the DNA that proposes intelligent design. Well, then, there 1076 01:58:33.359 --> 01:58:38.960 ' s a wide range of issues. Here we have succinctly addressed some of 1077 01:58:39.640 --> 01:58:44.640 them and left us wanting more. Well, then, dear Antonio, thank 1078 01:58:44.720 --> 01:58:49.439 you for offering us such a compelling and exciting document and the truth that this 1079 01:58:49.520 --> 01:58:54.920 publication of your God for DNA is magnificent. Congratulations on her. Thank you 1080 01:58:54.920 --> 01:59:00.680 very much, well, I' m sorry I used so many words, 1081 01:59:00.079 --> 01:59:03.680 other weird ones, well, well. I believe we are very grateful to 1082 01:59:03.840 --> 01:59:10.880 you, for my part, not only for your pedagogy, but for your 1083 01:59:11.119 --> 01:59:15.399 didactics in making the difficult much more understandable, and that is something that many 1084 01:59:15.399 --> 01:59:17.920 in IT value. Thank you very much. Thank you, Antonio, a 1085 01:59:17.960 --> 01:59:32.000 very affectionate hug. So long, my friend, so long goodbye to the 1086 01:59:32.079 --> 01:59:42.119 train of life itself. In what, then, that we lost the way, 1087 01:59:44.439 --> 01:59:54.960 In what mame is it that we leave listen, In what mamen lco 1088 01:59:54.960 --> 02:00:08.720 are God, fr oh father, our forgiveness, O father, our forgiveness? 1089 02:00:11.159 --> 02:00:32.520 We ask graces and misery of torrent in You, grace and misery or 1090 02:00:33.399 --> 02:00:55.039 redeemed desa chrysso in the tiermo of descavidas Salía. In what moments do you 1091 02:00:55.720 --> 02:01:12.960 begin your cormos, master p oh, fathers of the oh, father of 1092 02:01:15.720 --> 02:01:53.640 my pro d and my olsen tito, where are the spirits of s ad 1093 02:01:54.399 --> 02:02:17.880 maplesco I month true gemento. If I sentence I think of a woman wake 1094 02:02:18.119 --> 02:02:33.319 up when I see the lock of itad, mame mala, young wake up, 1095 02:02:35.520 --> 02:02:56.920 when all this lurks, how many you or a man wake up when 1096 02:02:56.920 --> 02:03:27.159 it comes to a man despair, when your great, your name tempts and 1097 02:03:27.159 --> 02:04:09.000 my eyes. Says men or sir we show your great friend goy hello pretty 1098 02:04:11.520 --> 02:04:15.079 traffic and safety law yal has changed. We changed the rules, because the 1099 02:04:15.159 --> 02:04:19.039 way we moved has also changed. So, now, if you hold your 1100 02:04:19.079 --> 02:04:24.800 mobile hand while driving, you can lose six points, new times, new 1101 02:04:25.119 --> 02:04:29.800 rules. Directorate- General for Traffic, Ministry of the Interior, Government of 1102 02:04:29.800 --> 02:05:12.479 Spain. You travel on the train of life. We are here, ladies 1103 02:05:12.560 --> 02:05:15.319 and gentlemen, in this master car of the train of life, always in 1104 02:05:15.399 --> 02:05:21.479 good company. The colors of life, seasonal changes and moods, seasonal changes 1105 02:05:21.560 --> 02:05:31.039 such as from winter to spring and now to moods. Who hasn' t 1106 02:05:31.039 --> 02:05:34.840 ever said the saying, and I said it myself in the spring. Blood 1107 02:05:34.960 --> 02:05:43.399 usually alters it to refer to certain behaviors of some people or even to states 1108 02:05:44.039 --> 02:05:47.279 of mind of oneself that seem to us to be bad and that usually coincide 1109 02:05:47.399 --> 02:05:56.479 with seasonal periods, such as spring. On many occasions, these states do 1110 02:05:56.600 --> 02:06:01.119 not coincide precisely with states of optimism and energy, but rather with periods of 1111 02:06:01.279 --> 02:06:10.640 some internal agitation or sadness. When we analyze our concerns, we find nothing 1112 02:06:10.680 --> 02:06:16.479 that apparently can justify what we feel or what we are feeling. We' 1113 02:06:16.560 --> 02:06:24.880 re probably experiencing some seasonal affective disorder. There' s the word eh unknown 1114 02:06:24.960 --> 02:06:30.119 to us, seasonal affective disorder. These affective disorders surprise many people, especially 1115 02:06:30.239 --> 02:06:40.920 those who usually show some stability in emotional aspects. Today we wonder what these 1116 02:06:41.039 --> 02:06:47.119 seasonal disorders are and what the causes are. Well, let' s ask 1117 02:06:47.720 --> 02:06:53.000 our friend, the psychologist, good friend, the psychologist Daniel Gasso, who 1118 02:06:53.199 --> 02:06:58.880 knows about this for a while, what are seasonal affective disorders, because this 1119 02:06:59.000 --> 02:07:03.640 is quality new songs, seasonal affective disorders, not so emotional, even if 1120 02:07:03.720 --> 02:07:09.319 it can affect the exact emotional. Yeah, there' s a whole package, 1121 02:07:09.479 --> 02:07:13.800 a whole group of that kind of disorders. Perhaps the best known is 1122 02:07:13.840 --> 02:07:19.920 the famous is had spring or autumn or winter depression, etcetera, etcetera. 1123 02:07:21.000 --> 02:07:28.520 Such disorders are linked to the seasons of the year. It' s the 1124 02:07:28.560 --> 02:07:30.960 actual seasonal disorder, because look from now on, as it' s a 1125 02:07:31.000 --> 02:07:33.800 word, as you' ve done a little long and a little amply. 1126 02:07:34.119 --> 02:07:41.720 We give you sea TAE as the famous car tax or for credits. But 1127 02:07:42.079 --> 02:07:45.000 let' s call the APR. But this occurs mainly in winter and to 1128 02:07:45.119 --> 02:07:48.920 a lesser extent in autumn, as a result of the reduction of people of 1129 02:07:48.960 --> 02:07:53.000 light and the decrease in temperatures, which results in more people, as they 1130 02:07:53.159 --> 02:07:56.760 go out less in the street and do not relate so much to acquaintances, 1131 02:07:57.199 --> 02:08:03.039 friends, etc. The risk, if it seems, is a form of 1132 02:08:03.039 --> 02:08:07.920 depression. It intensifies especially in places where winter is more settled and colder. 1133 02:08:09.319 --> 02:08:16.239 But there is a modality that occurs in the spring and summer period. That 1134 02:08:16.640 --> 02:08:20.279 misses people a lot, because we always identify spring and truth as a time, 1135 02:08:20.479 --> 02:08:26.039 as well as optimism, as joy, etcetera. But with the arrival 1136 02:08:26.079 --> 02:08:28.840 of the nine temperatures there is also reaching the size in many people, although 1137 02:08:30.319 --> 02:08:35.319 their occurrence is lower and the incidence is increasing. That' s the growing 1138 02:08:35.439 --> 02:08:39.920 reality. Why, then, because global warming is producing the climate changes that 1139 02:08:41.079 --> 02:08:46.079 facilitate those conditions for it to be affected, so that the climate affects people 1140 02:08:46.600 --> 02:08:54.600 ' s moods. Then we will see that the incidence of that soda envelope, 1141 02:08:54.039 --> 02:08:58.000 above all is based on the amount of light, temperature, humidity, 1142 02:08:58.159 --> 02:09:01.479 etc. On the other hand, the revolution, the standards of life it 1143 02:09:01.479 --> 02:09:07.039 has made, has decided in a negative way and has supercharged people' s 1144 02:09:07.159 --> 02:09:11.960 inspirations and created false needs. We just say and repeat it as active passive 1145 02:09:13.560 --> 02:09:20.439 impo that our society generates false needs, is specialized in generating false needs that 1146 02:09:20.560 --> 02:09:24.680 force people to move away from a more natural way of life and unnecessarily increase 1147 02:09:24.760 --> 02:09:30.520 the duration or intensity of their days, or both and do so at a 1148 02:09:31.079 --> 02:09:35.720 rate that is really unsustainable for long periods of time. And what happens, 1149 02:09:35.800 --> 02:09:39.800 because it ends up affecting physical balance and emotional balance. Yeah, tremendous, 1150 02:09:41.119 --> 02:09:46.720 it' s good. These are seasonal affective disorders. It is a very 1151 02:09:46.800 --> 02:09:52.239 clear and timely definition for the issue we are addressing today and Daniel and how 1152 02:09:52.319 --> 02:09:58.600 we can identify the presence of that disorder in us, as there is a 1153 02:09:58.680 --> 02:10:03.399 series of Julio symptoms that would help us or can help us identify if we 1154 02:10:03.439 --> 02:10:09.560 or someone close to us or a relative is suffering from that disorder changes, 1155 02:10:09.760 --> 02:10:11.960 for example, in mood. The people affected, as they become more irritable 1156 02:10:13.039 --> 02:10:18.319 and susceptible, impaden them feelings of low self- esteem, become more skeptical 1157 02:10:18.399 --> 02:10:24.159 of themselves, show greater sensitivity, of which criticism and even in many cases 1158 02:10:24.319 --> 02:10:30.640 they often cry and or bother more often with their acility. Other symptoms inability 1159 02:10:30.680 --> 02:10:35.800 to enjoy. A person with APR may lose interest in the things they enjoy 1160 02:10:35.880 --> 02:10:41.359 again and feel unable to enjoy what he once enjoyed. This is what it 1161 02:10:41.359 --> 02:10:46.439 ' s called, because you know that in psychology, because we have the 1162 02:10:46.520 --> 02:10:48.479 mania of naming everything, and names, besides, are not of normal names 1163 02:10:48.520 --> 02:10:52.560 or of rare names. This is called anedoni and the inability to enjoy, 1164 02:10:52.159 --> 02:10:58.359 to feel pleasure something is called anedonia and people with that disorder tend to isolate 1165 02:10:58.359 --> 02:11:03.319 themselves and often manifest feelings of guilt for not being better. Another thing is 1166 02:11:03.399 --> 02:11:11.319 unusual tiredness or fatigue that doesn' t have a reason. Apparently there is 1167 02:11:11.359 --> 02:11:16.479 no special reason to have worked more or to have made some kind of special 1168 02:11:16.680 --> 02:11:22.720 effort out of the ordinary, but there is a fatigue that apparently appears for 1169 02:11:22.760 --> 02:11:28.520 no reason. Then there are sleep disturbances, the person could sleep much more 1170 02:11:28.640 --> 02:11:33.119 than usual or less than normal, i e, hithersomnia or hyposognia. In 1171 02:11:33.199 --> 02:11:37.279 some cases this is because it grew from a hormone called melatonin, which does 1172 02:11:37.319 --> 02:11:43.439 regulate the person' s sleep cycle, our natural sleep cycle, and this 1173 02:11:43.479 --> 02:11:48.520 hormone secretion is altered, since its production is linked to exposure to sunlight. 1174 02:11:54.479 --> 02:11:58.960 Therefore, in many Nordic countries depression is treated through exposure to artificial sunlight, 1175 02:12:00.079 --> 02:12:05.600 but light finally, and they see very important, very significant changes. That 1176 02:12:05.680 --> 02:12:09.159 ' s very curious, too. After changes in a diet the person against 1177 02:12:09.239 --> 02:12:13.920 because he experiences some type of diet, we will observe some type of food 1178 02:12:15.039 --> 02:12:20.239 change, for example, changes in appetite, and what he does, because 1179 02:12:20.359 --> 02:12:26.920 what happens is that they imply a desire to consume excessive carboidates as rather sugary 1180 02:12:26.039 --> 02:12:31.359 foods and a tendency to eat more. This change in food. What can 1181 02:12:31.479 --> 02:12:35.680 produce weight gain Logically and during some seasonal periods over all intermediate periods, such 1182 02:12:35.680 --> 02:12:41.359 as spring and autumn. That' s where a lot of worries start and 1183 02:12:41.399 --> 02:12:46.239 also the campaigns of ppation, vikin that the machines. There are the brands 1184 02:12:46.039 --> 02:12:52.520 that produce, that produce some kind of products dedicated to dietetics especially and attainment 1185 02:12:52.640 --> 02:12:56.479 and so they have it very well assumed and very clear and know in which 1186 02:12:56.520 --> 02:13:01.319 time they have to intensify their advertising campaigns. Then, there is also something 1187 02:13:01.319 --> 02:13:07.199 else, the difficulty to concentrate. Such can affect concentration and interfere with school 1188 02:13:07.720 --> 02:13:13.199 performance and work performance. From the person. Not to be frightened, because 1189 02:13:13.279 --> 02:13:18.079 it is something that is transitory completely and treatable. But sometimes we have a 1190 02:13:18.159 --> 02:13:26.600 feeling that our performance decreases because we find something else. Lack of energy also 1191 02:13:26.039 --> 02:13:31.159 diminishes social activities. People with ASD at certain times can spend less time with 1192 02:13:31.239 --> 02:13:37.640 friends, close more at home, and are more isolated. And then, 1193 02:13:37.800 --> 02:13:41.840 finally, the feeling of low energy, that feeling of having little energy to 1194 02:13:41.920 --> 02:13:48.000 face the usual demands, gets the person to feel guilty. That' s 1195 02:13:48.239 --> 02:13:54.560 where we have to do emotional work and reprocessing of things, because it leads 1196 02:13:54.600 --> 02:13:58.640 the person to feel guilty of failing to attend to what he or she should 1197 02:13:58.640 --> 02:13:58.840 and what it does, then, affects his or her self- esteem. 1198 02:14:00.119 --> 02:14:03.439 I think because I' m seeing everything, I' m living, unable, 1199 02:14:03.760 --> 02:14:05.199 etcetera, etcetera. I' m telling people who expect things from me 1200 02:14:05.239 --> 02:14:13.279 what to do that makes them feel frustrated, isolated and more lonely. And 1201 02:14:13.399 --> 02:14:16.800 especially if you do not realize what is causing the changes in energy, mood 1202 02:14:16.880 --> 02:14:24.840 and motivation. And they usually beat him to something else or something that' 1203 02:14:26.279 --> 02:14:31.039 s a personal problem, but never, usually never do a person wear a 1204 02:14:31.119 --> 02:14:39.520 seasonal affective disorder. Sure, sure, good. We are seeing a vision 1205 02:14:41.119 --> 02:14:46.720 of a somewhat novel aspect in terms of explanation, but which really describes in 1206 02:14:48.000 --> 02:14:56.600 our states of mind in relation to seasonal transitions, what are the causes of 1207 02:14:56.720 --> 02:15:03.159 affective disorder? These seasonal look is that this is seasonal affective disorder, not 1208 02:15:03.279 --> 02:15:11.239 seasonal emotional. This is some spring and summer. What are the causes of 1209 02:15:11.319 --> 02:15:16.720 this disorder? For current theories about these causes mostly focus on the role that 1210 02:15:16.800 --> 02:15:22.680 sunlight could play. As we said before, sunlight has an important potential in 1211 02:15:22.880 --> 02:15:28.760 the production in the human brain of hormones that are key and experts believe that 1212 02:15:28.880 --> 02:15:33.840 there are two specific substances in the brain that are melatonin and serotonin that could 1213 02:15:33.960 --> 02:15:41.079 be involved in that disorder. What happens, because these two hormones help regulate 1214 02:15:41.159 --> 02:15:46.520 sleep cycles and alertness then is awake, asleep and also regulate energy and mood. 1215 02:15:50.239 --> 02:15:52.199 Shorter days and longer hours of darkness, for example, in autumn and 1216 02:15:52.199 --> 02:15:56.760 winter, can cause an increase in meratonin levels and a decrease in serotonin. 1217 02:16:01.520 --> 02:16:05.079 And what happens, because it creates biological conditions that are quite ideal to feel 1218 02:16:05.159 --> 02:16:11.680 sad, off or depressed. Another important thing is that, as melatonia is 1219 02:16:11.720 --> 02:16:16.239 associated with sleep, the body produces this hormone in larger amounts when there is 1220 02:16:16.319 --> 02:16:22.319 darkness and when the days are shorter. Now, this increase in the production 1221 02:16:22.479 --> 02:16:26.399 of melatony what it does is for the person to feel more smiling and lethargic. 1222 02:16:28.520 --> 02:16:33.120 But with tedotonins it happens just the opposite. Let' s say they 1223 02:16:33.239 --> 02:16:35.959 ' re two opposite substances. The production of being otonide counts when the person 1224 02:16:37.040 --> 02:16:41.040 is exposed to light, so serotonin levels are likely to be lower during the 1225 02:16:41.079 --> 02:16:50.000 winter with the shortest days. But low levels and dotolins are associated with depression, 1226 02:16:50.239 --> 02:16:58.719 so increasing the availability of this otone substance helps fight depression. Therefore, 1227 02:16:58.000 --> 02:17:03.159 in many medicines all, even in some medicines that are of homeopathic type, 1228 02:17:03.959 --> 02:17:11.200 are supplied, because the precursors of their substance is worth what happens, since, 1229 02:17:11.280 --> 02:17:16.879 instead, in excessive high levels of serotonids are associated with anxiety disorders. 1230 02:17:18.840 --> 02:17:24.840 Hence, the symptoms of APR in spring have components more similar to the two 1231 02:17:24.879 --> 02:17:28.479 tones of anxiety than depression, or they are disorders that happen, since anxiety 1232 02:17:28.479 --> 02:17:33.079 is an excess of activation, let' s say so, and in depression 1233 02:17:33.239 --> 02:17:41.000 it is an activation defect. Then each has its substance. Not sure. 1234 02:17:41.280 --> 02:17:46.719 Of course how interesting this issue is and what happens in spring and summer. 1235 02:17:46.840 --> 02:17:50.159 What can affect us in this way. Daniel, how you' re explaining 1236 02:17:52.639 --> 02:17:56.559 to him, because summer is full of changes that can affect the person at 1237 02:17:56.559 --> 02:18:01.399 heart. For example, the time change the famous or champion. If the 1238 02:18:01.440 --> 02:18:03.600 change in the duration of sunlight and is quite radical in a natural way, 1239 02:18:05.000 --> 02:18:09.440 from the beginning of spring. Add to that the effects of the artificial change 1240 02:18:09.600 --> 02:18:15.920 of summer time. This makes our endocrine system, our gland system internal ones, 1241 02:18:16.200 --> 02:18:20.360 especially the pinea moon gland gland that is lodged in our brain have to 1242 02:18:20.479 --> 02:18:26.639 be readjusted in a more sudden way. And this, then, what happens, 1243 02:18:26.719 --> 02:18:31.680 because it ends up affecting the amount of these substances that are called neurotransmitters 1244 02:18:31.760 --> 02:18:35.680 and produce and activate the neverse impulses of our brain. What happens, then, 1245 02:18:39.719 --> 02:18:45.440 and that is all that is artificially forcing environmental changes like that change of 1246 02:18:45.520 --> 02:18:50.639 schedule. Of course, he just adjusted our biological clocks. We' re 1247 02:18:50.680 --> 02:18:56.280 made July to function naturally. Our creator has done things perfectly and very well 1248 02:18:56.760 --> 02:19:01.680 thought out and very well designed. When we want to put our hand in 1249 02:19:01.120 --> 02:19:05.680 there and start changing things, we fix one and spoil another and therefore our 1250 02:19:05.799 --> 02:19:11.840 hormones, in this case they are adjusted and this has consequences on the mood. 1251 02:19:13.680 --> 02:19:16.000 That' s the reality. If I, as far as the subject 1252 02:19:16.120 --> 02:19:20.680 is concerned, that of the artificial changes of drier and such is not execsively 1253 02:19:20.680 --> 02:19:28.719 supportive, because we added a difficulty and we were able to add an additional 1254 02:19:28.799 --> 02:19:31.600 difficulty to our indocrine system so that it could be readjusted. Then there are 1255 02:19:31.680 --> 02:19:37.360 other things of the main reasons for transforming affective this scene is humidity. Looks 1256 02:19:37.440 --> 02:19:41.600 like he doesn' t have a relationship. It may shock many of our 1257 02:19:41.639 --> 02:19:46.079 listeners, but this humidity increases especially at that time of year in summer. 1258 02:19:46.840 --> 02:19:54.040 Many people experience discomfort and increase irritability. That' s why it happens to 1259 02:19:54.120 --> 02:19:58.000 all of us when we say it' s not that it' s a 1260 02:19:58.440 --> 02:20:01.360 traveling heat, that it' s causing you an upset you' re like 1261 02:20:01.360 --> 02:20:07.120 a little upset. It is really that moisture produces this feeling and elevates our 1262 02:20:07.200 --> 02:20:16.239 feeling of discomfort and therefore produces irritability and heat does not feel the same way 1263 02:20:16.319 --> 02:20:22.079 to everyone. Many people, many people have difficulty with the heat and they 1264 02:20:22.159 --> 02:20:24.559 don' t just feel comfortable anywhere, even if there is conditional air, 1265 02:20:24.639 --> 02:20:31.639 even then what happens that they have checked and even very curious statistics have been 1266 02:20:33.040 --> 02:20:35.959 made about criminologies about the United States, where heat waves have led to an 1267 02:20:35.959 --> 02:20:41.639 increase in crime and violence. So heat, especially when it is excessive heat, 1268 02:20:41.799 --> 02:20:50.280 also produces discomfort and exerts a very direct influence on the mood. Good 1269 02:20:50.360 --> 02:20:54.520 explanations are very broad and interesting, but there are other reasons why some people 1270 02:20:54.559 --> 02:21:01.280 feel emotionally extinguished or weakened when what we call good weather begins. It is 1271 02:21:01.399 --> 02:21:07.239 true that this happens, yes, especially if you are in situations of loneliness 1272 02:21:07.280 --> 02:21:13.680 and emotional isolation because you have perhaps suffered the loss of a family scenario, 1273 02:21:13.840 --> 02:21:18.120 of the family situation that in the past is very rewarding, the memory of 1274 02:21:18.239 --> 02:21:24.079 the summer outings in family, etc, can be even painful to you, 1275 02:21:24.319 --> 02:21:28.840 especially if you have not yet closed your mourning process or have not fully adapted 1276 02:21:28.000 --> 02:21:33.879 well enough to the vital changes that this produced. Also a key factor is 1277 02:21:35.040 --> 02:21:39.399 the increase in leisure hours, which will be when the person takes the holidays 1278 02:21:39.479 --> 02:21:43.280 and has more free time to think. That is a classic that in many 1279 02:21:43.360 --> 02:21:48.959 crises in couples relationships occur during the summer period and two summer holidays or even 1280 02:21:50.079 --> 02:21:56.120 sometimes two winter holidays. It really increases the leisure time and, therefore, 1281 02:21:56.520 --> 02:22:03.840 the problems, the emotional conflicts that are not closed, as they even appear 1282 02:22:03.120 --> 02:22:07.079 to be used more strongly, because it is like having when one hears the 1283 02:22:07.719 --> 02:22:13.959 silence that is called, because when listening to the silence he hears things that 1284 02:22:13.120 --> 02:22:18.680 he has never heard before. So that' s really what happens to all 1285 02:22:18.799 --> 02:22:22.719 of this. We should also add the problem of body image, right, 1286 02:22:22.079 --> 02:22:28.000 Daniel Ah, yes, this is a great problem. It is one of 1287 02:22:28.040 --> 02:22:31.559 the things that is being commented on every time in the media, it is 1288 02:22:33.079 --> 02:22:37.559 said, but it seems that nobody has just done anything on that subject, 1289 02:22:37.799 --> 02:22:41.920 nothing serious, because I believe that there are commercial interests very very very, 1290 02:22:41.159 --> 02:22:45.760 very intense and very deep in that case and that is why the issue of 1291 02:22:45.840 --> 02:22:50.639 body image has become the brutal industry, where thousands and thousands and billions of 1292 02:22:50.840 --> 02:22:56.600 euros move annually. Well, the body image is clear, we' ve 1293 02:22:56.600 --> 02:23:01.719 also said it many times by passive actio. It is upon the prayer of 1294 02:23:01.159 --> 02:23:05.559 our society and is another factor that exerts its influence on seasonal affective disorder. 1295 02:23:05.680 --> 02:23:11.680 Advertising and social pressure are mainly focused on a famous bikini operation when it arrives 1296 02:23:11.799 --> 02:23:16.920 it is coming to the good weather, which generates a lot of anxiety and 1297 02:23:16.120 --> 02:23:20.680 especially among the female group that find the young and middle- aged bands. 1298 02:23:22.479 --> 02:23:26.319 What, then, is that standards of berry are often unattainable and open the 1299 02:23:26.399 --> 02:23:31.360 door to the frustration of many people, especially when they disagree with their own 1300 02:23:31.440 --> 02:23:35.280 body image, when they don' t like it and think they should be 1301 02:23:35.360 --> 02:23:39.559 better. That image should be better than you think, which is when the 1302 02:23:39.639 --> 02:23:41.879 good weather starts. People who pass, therefore, who have a negatierra self 1303 02:23:43.760 --> 02:23:48.120 - image, have the impression that their defects in body quotes become more visible. 1304 02:23:50.040 --> 02:23:52.520 And what does it do, then, that put them in a state 1305 02:23:52.600 --> 02:23:56.600 of constant alertness and generate frustration and a spade of anxiety and discouragement are discouraged. 1306 02:23:58.159 --> 02:24:03.520 It even produces isolation in many cases, because, therefore, to avoid 1307 02:24:03.559 --> 02:24:07.239 situations of much social contact, because those people who do not make, do 1308 02:24:07.440 --> 02:24:11.520 not physically like themselves, feel more physically exposed to others, then tend to 1309 02:24:11.520 --> 02:24:16.399 isolate themselves to avoid that discomfort. When a person is dissatisfied with himself, 1310 02:24:16.719 --> 02:24:24.040 especially in terms of his physical appearance, problems come. Clearly it doesn' 1311 02:24:24.520 --> 02:24:28.239 t go well that in summer you have to put on less clothes to resist 1312 02:24:28.399 --> 02:24:33.879 the other temperatures and it feels even worse when you have to go in vikimi 1313 02:24:33.920 --> 02:24:35.399 or tarnish exposing the body more than ever. That' s the reality. 1314 02:24:37.079 --> 02:24:41.360 All this is because, moreover, there is a very great social pressure when 1315 02:24:41.920 --> 02:24:46.000 it comes to overvaluing the body image and, of course, installing it in 1316 02:24:48.319 --> 02:24:54.440 the collective memory, because installing standards of beauty that are absolutely out of place, 1317 02:24:54.719 --> 02:25:00.399 well the truth. Hearing all these things, we wonder how we can 1318 02:25:00.479 --> 02:25:07.200 deal with seasonal affective disorder, tai as you describe it, because when the 1319 02:25:07.559 --> 02:25:11.680 symptoms first appear, it can be confusing for the person and, especially for 1320 02:25:11.760 --> 02:25:18.920 people and for family and friends, because of course they will not know and 1321 02:25:18.079 --> 02:25:22.200 now what that is about, why that person is like that, if nothing 1322 02:25:22.239 --> 02:25:24.360 happens, if nothing has happened, if nothing has happened in his or her 1323 02:25:24.399 --> 02:25:26.719 special environment, and there may be people from nearby who may even think wrong 1324 02:25:26.799 --> 02:25:33.000 that the person who seems to be loosening his or her working pace or who 1325 02:25:33.079 --> 02:25:39.920 is trying us and if he or she thinks that he or she has some 1326 02:25:39.000 --> 02:25:43.479 symptoms of the person who is listening to us and who thinks that he or 1327 02:25:43.479 --> 02:25:48.719 she has symptoms. It is advisable to talk to some of the closest relatives 1328 02:25:48.799 --> 02:25:54.959 and some counselor or therapist or other trusted person about what we are feeling. 1329 02:25:54.559 --> 02:25:58.840 It is important that we can put words or things and describe what happens to 1330 02:25:58.920 --> 02:26:03.600 us in diagnosed size. There are many things we can do to help. 1331 02:26:03.959 --> 02:26:09.399 First of all, don' t let us get away with feelings of guilt 1332 02:26:09.520 --> 02:26:13.120 thinking that we' re struggling because we' re not responding to other people 1333 02:26:13.120 --> 02:26:16.079 ' s expectations. That must be radically discarded. What we' re feeling 1334 02:26:16.200 --> 02:26:22.520 is very real and has a very real value and we shouldn' t panic 1335 02:26:22.680 --> 02:26:26.959 as experienced, because it' s a disorder like any other and it doesn 1336 02:26:26.959 --> 02:26:28.639 ' t say anything derogatory about us. In the same way that he would 1337 02:26:28.680 --> 02:26:33.399 have no sense of guilt for having a legia. For example, in spring, 1338 02:26:33.719 --> 02:26:37.959 no one feels guilty for having energy. He simply understands that legia is 1339 02:26:37.239 --> 02:26:43.639 the result of a biological and physiological situation and point and nothing else, but 1340 02:26:43.680 --> 02:26:48.639 he does not feel guilty for having allergy, because we should think about exactly 1341 02:26:48.680 --> 02:26:54.639 the same terms with reference to such then important follow the recommendations of medical treatment 1342 02:26:54.760 --> 02:27:00.399 if there was, since it is advisable that when noticing them and symptoms, 1343 02:27:01.159 --> 02:27:03.200 of course, what I recommend first is that we go to our GP. 1344 02:27:03.680 --> 02:27:09.559 That, of course, learn all we can about it and explain the disorder 1345 02:27:09.600 --> 02:27:13.520 to others so they can help us. Now, this has a certain level 1346 02:27:13.639 --> 02:27:18.840 of balance, because sometimes when you start to consult the Internet, because a 1347 02:27:18.159 --> 02:27:22.239 lot of things and a lot of information come out and we can get to 1348 02:27:22.319 --> 02:27:26.239 have some kind of informative packaging. That' s not good for us either. 1349 02:27:26.319 --> 02:27:31.280 You don' t have to be balanced and discuss that with people and, 1350 02:27:31.559 --> 02:27:37.479 of course, try to focus on those things that we find most contrasted, 1351 02:27:37.639 --> 02:27:43.440 more solvent and more series. Then, it' s important to do 1352 02:27:43.479 --> 02:27:45.600 a lot of exercise, especially exercise in the air. Free, exercise because, 1353 02:27:45.920 --> 02:27:50.760 therefore, releases endorphins that are the substances that produce the sensation of well 1354 02:27:52.399 --> 02:27:58.000 - stap not only physical, but soul, and then this now increases and 1355 02:27:58.120 --> 02:28:03.600 better in this mood. Another important thing to spend time with friends and loved 1356 02:28:03.639 --> 02:28:07.479 ones who understand what is happening to us, because they can help us and 1357 02:28:07.959 --> 02:28:13.639 provide us with personal contact, intimacy and a sense of connection with people. 1358 02:28:15.159 --> 02:28:20.079 We are made as social beings and relationships are part of our life and are 1359 02:28:20.440 --> 02:28:26.639 as essential as eating or sleeping. It is also important to be patient and 1360 02:28:26.719 --> 02:28:31.360 not alarmed. Let us not expect the symptoms to disappear immediately one day for 1361 02:28:31.440 --> 02:28:37.319 the other. They' ll disappear safely, but not overnight. So let 1362 02:28:37.360 --> 02:28:41.239 ' s not be alarmed and have a little patience. Then ask for help 1363 02:28:41.360 --> 02:28:50.040 with household chores or chores and other duties if needed. We should have no 1364 02:28:50.159 --> 02:28:56.520 problem asking for help. That' s a mania that many of us have. 1365 02:28:56.559 --> 02:28:58.280 We all find it difficult to ask for help, because we have a 1366 02:28:58.360 --> 02:29:05.079 feeling that if I ask for help more vulnerable and I am weaker, and 1367 02:29:05.120 --> 02:29:07.239 that I project an image of myself that I do not like. But asking 1368 02:29:07.239 --> 02:29:09.479 for help has to be me I think you have to be very honest and 1369 02:29:09.600 --> 02:29:13.280 very brave to ask for help. Not the other way around. If we 1370 02:29:13.319 --> 02:29:18.719 feel that we can' t do anything else important, if we feel that 1371 02:29:18.799 --> 02:29:22.040 we can' t concentrate, let' s remember that this is part of 1372 02:29:22.040 --> 02:29:24.639 the disorder and that things will get better. If it is true that the 1373 02:29:24.719 --> 02:29:31.360 APR produced a certain concentration difficulty. It will be more difficult for us to 1374 02:29:31.479 --> 02:29:35.879 focus our attention during the same time we set ourselves on a task, because 1375 02:29:35.879 --> 02:29:35.920 we used to do it in difficulty and now it will cost us more. 1376 02:29:37.200 --> 02:29:45.120 We will feel a certain heaviness in spite of eyes, a need as to 1377 02:29:45.120 --> 02:29:50.040 escape from that. Well, let' s stop, let' s take 1378 02:29:50.120 --> 02:29:56.280 a little break, take a few minutes and reprimand the task without worrying, 1379 02:29:56.280 --> 02:29:58.760 because that' ll get better, too. It is also important that we 1380 02:30:00.040 --> 02:30:07.520 eat well it is worth trying to avoid, above all, the important and 1381 02:30:07.680 --> 02:30:11.959 heavy amounts of carbohydrates and sugary snacks. When one is like this, agitated, 1382 02:30:11.120 --> 02:30:16.639 worried, or even saddened or melancholic, we tend to eat more food 1383 02:30:16.799 --> 02:30:24.479 and especially sugary food, because we make the small effort to replace this sugary 1384 02:30:24.520 --> 02:30:28.799 food with more weldable things, such as cereals, whole grains, vegetables and 1385 02:30:28.799 --> 02:30:33.399 fruits. It' s worth another important thing. If we feel unmotivated or 1386 02:30:33.440 --> 02:30:39.079 have lost the ability to enjoy things we used to like, it is advisable 1387 02:30:39.440 --> 02:30:43.920 that we do it the same, even if we do not feel like doing 1388 02:30:43.920 --> 02:30:48.479 them. Why, because our ability to enjoy and feel pleasure has not disappeared 1389 02:30:48.600 --> 02:30:52.559 nor have we lost it. It has simply been stored in the same place 1390 02:30:52.639 --> 02:30:58.360 it has always been and has only been blocked. We can unlock it again 1391 02:30:58.399 --> 02:31:01.319 as we can see to unlock me, that it is a motor or a 1392 02:31:01.319 --> 02:31:07.959 set, doing what, then, doing the same thing that used to activate 1393 02:31:07.959 --> 02:31:11.120 that machine, the same thing that used to activate it, now it can 1394 02:31:11.120 --> 02:31:16.120 reactivate it. It is only a matter of standing firm in doing so, 1395 02:31:16.719 --> 02:31:20.319 even though initially our emotions do not seem to accompany us. I mean, 1396 02:31:20.719 --> 02:31:24.120 let' s not expect that if I used to like it I used to 1397 02:31:24.239 --> 02:31:31.479 walk and have a great time walking and watching, walking in the sea or 1398 02:31:31.559 --> 02:31:33.239 smelling the sea breeze or walking in the countryside, doing any other activity. 1399 02:31:33.719 --> 02:31:35.319 Let' s hope that now, with blows, we' ll feel the 1400 02:31:35.319 --> 02:31:39.200 same way we used to be. But in the end, if we continue 1401 02:31:39.280 --> 02:31:45.600 to do so, it is a sense of well- being and pleasure, 1402 02:31:45.600 --> 02:31:46.440 it will inevitably return the emotions. What if he didn' t accompany us 1403 02:31:46.479 --> 02:31:50.639 at first. It' s because they always have a slower response time than 1404 02:31:50.719 --> 02:31:56.680 our decisions. One can decide instantly, but emotions do not follow us instantly. 1405 02:31:58.399 --> 02:32:01.520 But this means that we are being answered by the changes. Then, 1406 02:32:01.559 --> 02:32:05.120 in the end, in time, they will respond to the changes and always 1407 02:32:05.120 --> 02:32:07.920 follow us. I give the example of the train car, which, when 1408 02:32:07.959 --> 02:32:09.760 it is a very long train car in kero merchandise, is so long when 1409 02:32:09.840 --> 02:32:15.000 the machine has started and starts to advance the first centimetres or the first meters, 1410 02:32:15.200 --> 02:32:18.440 the last wagons follow us until the impulse is transmitted to them, because 1411 02:32:18.520 --> 02:32:24.840 it is exactly the same. Our feelings at the end are like the wagons 1412 02:32:24.879 --> 02:32:28.280 at the end. In the end they will follow us, but they need 1413 02:32:28.280 --> 02:32:35.680 a propulsion, a decision. Okay then this is very important to have in 1414 02:32:35.760 --> 02:32:39.760 mind also a good sleep routine. How to sleep with reasonable new ones that 1415 02:32:39.840 --> 02:32:46.239 approach the natural cycles of daylight. This will help our body function more harmoniously 1416 02:32:46.799 --> 02:32:52.159 with our environment, especially in the types of sleep and rest. Natural light 1417 02:32:52.239 --> 02:32:56.760 helps to maintain psychological balance in a great way. That is what we said 1418 02:32:56.760 --> 02:33:00.959 at the beginning about what is happening or the treatment of some depressive states, 1419 02:33:01.520 --> 02:33:05.639 especially in the Nordic countries, a day and less light. This is so 1420 02:33:05.719 --> 02:33:11.920 real that it has been proven that the treatment to the exposure of intense light 1421 02:33:11.000 --> 02:33:18.479 during regular and controlled periods produces changes by substuacially decreasing the mood states, especially 1422 02:33:18.559 --> 02:33:22.959 the depressions, and that is a well- proven scientific reality and then, 1423 02:33:24.239 --> 02:33:28.120 Finally, there is a package of sleep measures that we can take to preserve 1424 02:33:28.159 --> 02:33:33.319 good gender in Spanish. For example, do not organize critical activities from the 1425 02:33:33.360 --> 02:33:37.239 arras before bedtime. This includes physical activity and also the visualization of television programs 1426 02:33:37.360 --> 02:33:43.840 or images that are very overstimulant, very fingering to lie down or always try 1427 02:33:43.879 --> 02:33:48.600 to do it at the same time, take a warm drink, relaxing type 1428 02:33:48.719 --> 02:33:52.879 and with little sugar before bedtime, if possible, take a relaxing bath with 1429 02:33:52.959 --> 02:34:00.239 warm water before bedtime, sell slightly and purposely our movements in the last few 1430 02:34:00.319 --> 02:34:03.000 minutes before bedtime, that is, become like a little slow camera apply some 1431 02:34:03.079 --> 02:34:09.319 relaxation technique, if we know it, on the Internet there is a lot 1432 02:34:09.399 --> 02:34:13.879 of information about relaxation techniques And and it is true that, although there is 1433 02:34:13.920 --> 02:34:18.159 a lot of junk information, I advise, for example, that they look 1434 02:34:18.159 --> 02:34:22.239 for notes. Those who hear us seek, by words, techniques of progressive 1435 02:34:22.319 --> 02:34:28.360 muscle relaxation. Progressive muscle relaxation techniques. However, it is a serious method, 1436 02:34:28.760 --> 02:34:33.760 a scientific, professional method and it is easy to learn and even easier 1437 02:34:33.760 --> 02:34:39.200 to apply. And finally, avoid exciting drinks like coffee or tea or chocolate 1438 02:34:39.399 --> 02:34:46.479 drinks two hours before bedtime. This package of suecto measures will help you to 1439 02:34:46.559 --> 02:34:50.920 establish a better balance in our natural cycles of sleep, rest, vigil, 1440 02:34:50.120 --> 02:34:58.280 etcetera. And this will ultimately be in the interest of solving the tie. 1441 02:35:00.559 --> 02:35:05.840 Tremendos, ladies and gentlemen, it has already been all this way to explain 1442 02:35:05.920 --> 02:35:13.680 to us the psychologist Daniel Gaso to explain to us the seasonal changes and moods, 1443 02:35:13.360 --> 02:35:18.479 like the passage from winter to spring, that peculiarly it is spoken that 1444 02:35:18.840 --> 02:35:24.239 even in many places it is said that the induction to suicide is the time 1445 02:35:24.319 --> 02:35:31.079 where most occur. In general. Right, that' s Julian. Indeed, 1446 02:35:31.680 --> 02:35:39.559 in many cases, when there is already an underlying or predisposition to depressive 1447 02:35:39.079 --> 02:35:46.000 states or to other depressive lathes, when to this is added the seasonal affective 1448 02:35:46.000 --> 02:35:52.360 disorder, because in many cases there is an incidence in the person and in 1449 02:35:52.399 --> 02:35:56.319 some people in very extreme cases, since it can even lead to attempts by 1450 02:35:56.440 --> 02:36:00.319 authors yons and suicide. Darling. Daniel has been a pleasure again and with 1451 02:36:00.440 --> 02:36:05.959 a theme so suggestive, exotic and at the same time as pertinent as seasonal 1452 02:36:05.680 --> 02:36:13.440 changes and moods in the case of spring winter to spring. And well, 1453 02:36:13.479 --> 02:36:18.479 it has been very clarifying, of course, yes, especially to our listeners 1454 02:36:18.520 --> 02:36:24.360 to explain to them that we should not be frightened, we should not worry, 1455 02:36:24.799 --> 02:36:28.840 there is no reason to worry in that sense, because it is something 1456 02:36:28.840 --> 02:36:33.200 absolutely transitory. Moreover, whether we take the measures or apply the guidelines we 1457 02:36:33.239 --> 02:36:37.879 have suggested. And more so if we have the help of some professional who 1458 02:36:37.959 --> 02:36:45.799 exists to us that aspect and we are prepared for especially intermediate situations, like 1459 02:36:46.120 --> 02:36:50.399 autumn I already know that we are now coming out of spring. Well, 1460 02:36:50.479 --> 02:36:52.760 we have to summer, because then we' ll start with autumn, which 1461 02:36:54.079 --> 02:36:58.639 is other midway where climate changes can occur. Again, let us try to 1462 02:36:58.719 --> 02:37:05.639 get closer to the most natural way of life, more related to the different 1463 02:37:05.760 --> 02:37:09.639 cycles of sunlight and darkness, because that will help us in the clear way 1464 02:37:11.040 --> 02:37:16.719 and, above all, keep regular reasonable schedules and also a reasonable and healthy 1465 02:37:16.799 --> 02:37:22.319 intake. Those are things that we don' t care about, but they 1466 02:37:22.440 --> 02:37:26.840 really can help us enormously. So, I send you a very affectionate hug, 1467 02:37:26.399 --> 02:37:30.639 dear friend, a hug and a pleasure as always being on the train 1468 02:37:30.719 --> 02:37:54.719 Julio. Thank you, Daniel, so long, so long, or if 1469 02:37:54.799 --> 02:38:00.920 you want to visit our website. The website wwwwwww. The train of life. 1470 02:38:01.600 --> 02:38:18.079 Point, the train of life and we have arrived just as the one 1471 02:38:18.280 --> 02:38:22.399 who does want the thing intentionally, to Dr Rock' s medical office. 1472 02:38:22.440 --> 02:38:30.399 There are the different allergies and their possible treatments for them. The Dotor Roca 1473 02:38:30.479 --> 02:38:37.399 is going to help us figure out a little bit about the primary reasons for 1474 02:38:37.399 --> 02:38:43.879 allergies. Come on, Dr Roca, you' ve wanted to, my 1475 02:38:43.879 --> 02:38:50.959 friend Hello, July. Allergies are expected. There is a certain expectation that 1476 02:38:50.159 --> 02:38:56.520 they may be somewhat of a source of anger. Right. The truth is 1477 02:38:56.600 --> 02:39:01.959 that we are already seeing and treating patients are consulted for this reason. For 1478 02:39:03.360 --> 02:39:09.399 example, an allergy to our listeners is a reaction of our immune system. 1479 02:39:09.520 --> 02:39:13.719 Those who suffer from it toward something that does not bother most other people, 1480 02:39:15.559 --> 02:39:20.000 but those who have allergies are often sensitive to more than one thing. For 1481 02:39:20.079 --> 02:39:24.399 example, the substances that usually cause reactions are pollen dust removals, mold spores, 1482 02:39:24.600 --> 02:39:28.520 animal dandruff, certain foods, foods, insect bites medicines that can also 1483 02:39:28.600 --> 02:39:45.399 cause serious allergies. The truth is our clear immune system is this cannot be 1484 02:39:45.760 --> 02:39:52.040 predicted to have an allergy at any time. Right. The truth is that 1485 02:39:52.200 --> 02:39:58.200 it is not a question that, as doctors often ask us, why we 1486 02:39:58.719 --> 02:40:05.000 have seen the number of allergic people increase so dramatically in recent decades. To 1487 02:40:05.120 --> 02:40:09.479 see allergies always there were, but not in the volume in which we have 1488 02:40:09.559 --> 02:40:16.159 had to live and have searched and searched and there are some answers. We 1489 02:40:16.280 --> 02:40:22.559 know that, apart from the existence of all these aliens, dandruff, animals, 1490 02:40:22.719 --> 02:40:28.520 mites that are in our rooms, in our beds, in our ofas, 1491 02:40:28.719 --> 02:40:33.319 in addition to the polenes, there must be something else that is the 1492 02:40:33.360 --> 02:40:39.159 real cause for some people to develop an energy that others do not develop. 1493 02:40:43.399 --> 02:40:48.319 And some answers have been shown. One of them is that it seems that 1494 02:40:48.399 --> 02:40:54.319 there are molecules in the air, in suspension from the combustion of the engines 1495 02:40:54.479 --> 02:41:01.079 tene and those substances, because they go to the Community tera, in such 1496 02:41:01.840 --> 02:41:07.319 a way that we have greater ease to develop an allergy one said seven. 1497 02:41:07.440 --> 02:41:13.239 There has to be a protein there, a protein that is strange in our 1498 02:41:13.799 --> 02:41:18.559 body and when I came into contact with this protein, then there' s 1499 02:41:18.559 --> 02:41:22.360 a reaction. But it is not a moderate reaction, but a tremendously exaggerated 1500 02:41:22.399 --> 02:41:26.760 reaction. It can even become dependent on intensity, it can gain to be 1501 02:41:26.799 --> 02:41:31.239 mortal. In fact, unfortunately, I do not know if you will remember 1502 02:41:31.280 --> 02:41:37.079 from a few years ago here, in the Port of Barcelona, that a 1503 02:41:37.360 --> 02:41:41.760 ship loaded with soy arrived. Yes, and it was tremendous, because there 1504 02:41:41.479 --> 02:41:46.680 was, well, really a problem. Tremendous leaves of elements also frequent. 1505 02:41:50.200 --> 02:41:56.319 As for his powder, it is that looses that it can cause, therefore, 1506 02:41:56.360 --> 02:42:00.600 great problems of energy. But here we say in, in our area, 1507 02:42:00.760 --> 02:42:05.479 in our territory, we have two large groups that make the sacks and 1508 02:42:05.559 --> 02:42:09.879 that that is not springtime, that is not to do with seasonality, but 1509 02:42:09.879 --> 02:42:15.399 that we are seeing all year, yes, and that of the pollens that 1510 02:42:15.920 --> 02:42:20.440 is so, is seasonal and that is now in sargeo and surely we have 1511 02:42:22.239 --> 02:42:26.200 it for a long time or just, so before you commented on the great 1512 02:42:26.280 --> 02:42:31.879 amount of rain and also the tons and tons that are in suspension of pollens 1513 02:42:31.959 --> 02:42:37.440 in the atmosphere, For example, what you have said of diesel brocio by 1514 02:42:37.639 --> 02:42:43.040 the engines, and that is already being warned and in fact, there are 1515 02:42:43.040 --> 02:42:48.520 already great marks, not only that they are decreasing, but that they are 1516 02:42:48.600 --> 02:42:54.600 stopping making tenel engines. In other words, it is expected that in order 1517 02:42:54.639 --> 02:43:01.079 not to remember which year no longer exists, tenel cars will no longer be 1518 02:43:01.719 --> 02:43:07.360 manufactured, all of them pure gasolines. It' s just that we turn 1519 02:43:09.120 --> 02:43:13.280 our planet into some sort of latrine, the polluted seas. The plastic is 1520 02:43:15.559 --> 02:43:22.559 everywhere, even in the whales' panties, in the atmosphere. Molecules or 1521 02:43:22.680 --> 02:43:26.479 some are natural and must be there because it is their place. God put 1522 02:43:26.559 --> 02:43:31.600 them there for a purpose. We are the pollens, but then the men 1523 02:43:31.680 --> 02:43:37.520 add there, then, a lofadal of strange molecules because of fossil fuels and 1524 02:43:37.959 --> 02:43:46.000 other substances. Some of them are perhaps less concentrated and therefore perhaps less motivated, 1525 02:43:46.159 --> 02:43:50.920 but others are not, and one of them sees the products that eliminates 1526 02:43:50.079 --> 02:43:56.920 gas combustion, DS engines. So, this is no longer a problem that 1527 02:43:58.000 --> 02:44:01.319 is known now. We have been in the past for years, and we 1528 02:44:01.360 --> 02:44:07.680 know whether to get into chemistry, the chemical route, because to say that 1529 02:44:07.719 --> 02:44:11.559 this is a problem that has been known for years and that a solution has 1530 02:44:11.559 --> 02:44:15.280 to be found. And finally, to God, thank you, because it 1531 02:44:15.319 --> 02:44:22.760 seems that the ten, the best ten have their days numbered and that this 1532 02:44:22.280 --> 02:44:28.600 we suppose could improve. It should also improve the volume of allergic people and 1533 02:44:28.680 --> 02:44:35.000 other respiratory problems that we find all year round, because not only will combustion 1534 02:44:35.079 --> 02:44:39.840 lead to harmful contamination that will cause bergias, but it will generate pollution that 1535 02:44:39.879 --> 02:44:48.319 will cause a multitude and multitude of respiratory pathologies. Because of this contamination, 1536 02:44:50.079 --> 02:44:56.959 respiratory allergies hope to see, especially allergies that have to do with causing asthma. 1537 02:44:56.840 --> 02:45:03.799 This is all delicate, because there are cases that can become highly sensitive 1538 02:45:05.000 --> 02:45:13.680 and seriously endanger the health of people with asthma. There are people who suffer 1539 02:45:13.680 --> 02:45:20.079 to a superlative degree. Yes, and that is also to say that there 1540 02:45:20.200 --> 02:45:24.559 are cases in which they are more serious, because there are people who good 1541 02:45:24.639 --> 02:45:30.600 to come into contact with an allergen, because it will segregate greater volume of 1542 02:45:30.799 --> 02:45:37.600 mucus, block, there will be basis of sneezing respiratory dity. But there 1543 02:45:37.719 --> 02:45:43.680 ' s a kind of percentage of patients who are the worst and most at 1544 02:45:43.840 --> 02:45:46.840 risk to me. But what they do is a bronchial spasm. The bronque 1545 02:45:46.959 --> 02:45:50.840 or, when it comes into contact with the engene, it contracts. It 1546 02:45:52.159 --> 02:45:56.639 ' s the muscle part of ittertrophy. It contracts by preventing the passage of 1547 02:45:56.159 --> 02:46:01.559 air and of course that has tremendous consequences. Well, even as you said, 1548 02:46:01.600 --> 02:46:05.000 very rightly they can carry and, because of the facial we have lived 1549 02:46:05.040 --> 02:46:09.360 it, you can lead to death the patient in case at that moment the 1550 02:46:09.360 --> 02:46:18.360 doctor is not there, it takes time to consult, sometimes you have to 1551 02:46:18.440 --> 02:46:20.120 move the little success of the family. How to react, especially if there 1552 02:46:20.239 --> 02:46:26.440 are rural areas Now it is mature, that is, complications. There' 1553 02:46:26.479 --> 02:46:30.600 s no emergency service 24 hours, there' s no hospital nearby. Well, 1554 02:46:30.639 --> 02:46:35.959 unfortunately, we have experienced this situation and the patient has entered critical espado 1555 02:46:35.079 --> 02:46:39.840 or is already terminal. It' s very serious, very serious. Sure, 1556 02:46:41.000 --> 02:46:46.079 sure, sure, treatments and therapies. In addition to nasal sprays, 1557 02:46:46.840 --> 02:46:54.239 antistamines, antiallergic injections, there is also the issue of vaccines to assess the 1558 02:46:54.360 --> 02:47:01.559 possibility of detecting which is the causative agent. Right, the issue of vaccines. 1559 02:47:03.920 --> 02:47:11.600 The vaccine you already know means that the treatment will be punctured an intermuscular 1560 02:47:11.680 --> 02:47:18.360 subcutaneous as it is punctured, and this can sometimes reinforce new problems. You 1561 02:47:18.399 --> 02:47:22.360 have to be very careful. Some of us prefer. I unquestionably prefer the 1562 02:47:22.440 --> 02:47:28.079 oral way has the great advantage that the organism will take what it needs and 1563 02:47:28.200 --> 02:47:33.079 what will not be discarded by the lactrin and we will have far fewer problems, 1564 02:47:33.719 --> 02:47:39.680 much less complications. These laboratories care about and make study, research and 1565 02:47:39.799 --> 02:47:46.600 market vaccines. And this kind of pathway we call vaccines, we call it 1566 02:47:46.840 --> 02:47:52.879 isotherapy. It would be the same thing that causes the disease. We use 1567 02:47:52.079 --> 02:47:58.879 it as a medicine, because there are very prestigious laboratories and that really their 1568 02:47:58.200 --> 02:48:05.239 products work wonderfully well. Even some very frequent allergies have already typified small bottles, 1569 02:48:07.079 --> 02:48:11.559 type vejiguita of plastic, since, with the monodoses of this vaccine from 1570 02:48:11.639 --> 02:48:18.079 sotherapy to defend the patient. The problem we also live in is that, 1571 02:48:20.479 --> 02:48:26.959 as we are immersed in this valley of pollution, because sometimes the patient heals 1572 02:48:26.079 --> 02:48:31.600 from an allergy and developed a new one, this may happen. I see 1573 02:48:31.639 --> 02:48:35.799 it relatively often. When a patient has given in a treatment, has been 1574 02:48:35.040 --> 02:48:41.319 positive, beneficial, The patient has improved dramatically, has even healed and after 1575 02:48:41.440 --> 02:48:46.360 x years it reappears with the inheritance as already one suspects and many times when 1576 02:48:46.600 --> 02:48:50.440 we repeat the energy tests, we discover, therefore, a new cause. 1577 02:48:52.399 --> 02:48:56.440 And the truth is that this is quite, quite common with cabbages, with 1578 02:48:56.639 --> 02:49:03.520 complex foods, a very exciting topic, but it is quite complex. Yes, 1579 02:49:03.680 --> 02:49:09.959 it has a very particular complexity, Dr Rock before we say goodbye. 1580 02:49:11.120 --> 02:49:15.760 There' s an allergy. There' s an allergy, an answer to 1581 02:49:15.840 --> 02:49:18.239 this big question. There' s an allergy. In recent times, it 1582 02:49:18.280 --> 02:49:22.879 wasn' t that much. I' m saying not to reminisce, either. 1583 02:49:22.879 --> 02:49:26.600 In the past there were things, for that is good, that we 1584 02:49:26.719 --> 02:49:31.079 have improved a lot and that are and better that they have disappeared. But 1585 02:49:31.280 --> 02:49:33.600 there are other things that don' t. And once there was something in 1586 02:49:33.680 --> 02:49:39.520 the environment. I' m not talking about repression of religion, which there 1587 02:49:39.559 --> 02:49:46.600 was also a lot of it, but there was a sense of respect. 1588 02:49:48.159 --> 02:49:54.159 Let us call the figure of that God who somehow did not know where he 1589 02:49:54.200 --> 02:49:58.799 was at all right, but who had created us. We have become allergic, 1590 02:50:00.000 --> 02:50:05.479 because our society has become allergic, genuinely allergic to contact with God, 1591 02:50:05.840 --> 02:50:11.559 to the search for that God we so need. Right. The truth is, 1592 02:50:11.760 --> 02:50:16.000 you' re absolutely right. There are words to which society has a 1593 02:50:16.639 --> 02:50:20.559 good share. He seems to have an allergy. One of them is that 1594 02:50:20.719 --> 02:50:28.319 word God. Another allergy is the word church, to which one speaks, 1595 02:50:28.399 --> 02:50:33.200 the Church of God, the Gospel, the Gospel, Christianity, etcetera. 1596 02:50:33.840 --> 02:50:41.959 Well, we see that there is in some of our neighbors, in the 1597 02:50:41.040 --> 02:50:46.520 cosses, with which we relate some kind of rashes. There is no allergy 1598 02:50:46.559 --> 02:50:52.959 red because well, what happens is that when we analyze and when we speak 1599 02:50:54.040 --> 02:51:00.600 in depth and there are people who are very is no and good, because 1600 02:51:00.639 --> 02:51:05.280 they have an attitude towards life, in front of the universe. On the 1601 02:51:05.280 --> 02:51:09.840 other hand, you have others that not others, because you will really reason 1602 02:51:09.879 --> 02:51:20.799 some of them because being at an intermediate point of agnosticism, of difficulty in 1603 02:51:20.479 --> 02:51:24.760 accepting, but there are some that do. So, when we go to 1604 02:51:24.879 --> 02:51:30.520 the cause, I have asked myself good, why people, when traditionally the 1605 02:51:30.600 --> 02:51:35.200 human being, since prehistory, we know that the human being has sought God 1606 02:51:35.479 --> 02:51:39.600 through religion, religion, because it has that purpose, then, when the 1607 02:51:39.639 --> 02:51:46.319 human being has sought God above all in priscialism. We know that God comes 1608 02:51:46.479 --> 02:51:52.639 to pass, but in all cultures, all over the world, from history, 1609 02:51:54.120 --> 02:51:58.239 we see that there is this search for the spiritual and suddenly it is 1610 02:51:58.360 --> 02:52:03.040 like that, because you generally said it very acesarously, a kind of allergy 1611 02:52:03.760 --> 02:52:09.040 And of course, then you have to realize the s of the one you 1612 02:52:09.079 --> 02:52:11.120 live. The sequence is the one we live with. It is a society 1613 02:52:11.239 --> 02:52:18.479 that has in Jewish Christian principles, especially Christian. Now the Jewish, it 1614 02:52:18.479 --> 02:52:20.040 ' s there at the root, but we don' t see it so 1615 02:52:20.120 --> 02:52:22.399 much anymore, we don' t perceive it so much anymore, but the 1616 02:52:22.399 --> 02:52:28.440 Christian. And then people often have no problems with God, but with Christians. 1617 02:52:28.840 --> 02:52:33.920 There are these rades and there' s the secret. So, I 1618 02:52:33.680 --> 02:52:39.559 always tell people that we share the faith is that the Christian must live, 1619 02:52:39.000 --> 02:52:43.799 to live in this city, he must try to be of an extraordinarily formal 1620 02:52:45.440 --> 02:52:50.120 conduct, because that pleases God And, besides that it is light to the 1621 02:52:50.239 --> 02:52:56.920 world. Look at yesterday, at the Bible study, at the Ibestia, 1622 02:52:56.159 --> 02:53:03.040 with the brothers of March, we were already commenting on so well- known 1623 02:53:03.200 --> 02:53:07.239 texts of you are the salt of the world. And he does not say, 1624 02:53:07.639 --> 02:53:09.399 Lord Jesus, you have the salt of the world, but you are. 1625 02:53:09.879 --> 02:53:16.120 And then he says he also speaks of the light and also says that 1626 02:53:16.200 --> 02:53:18.399 he is the light of the world and says that we are the light of 1627 02:53:18.399 --> 02:53:24.120 the world. There is there a reflection of its holiness and its characteristics. 1628 02:53:26.840 --> 02:53:30.559 But sometimes they will be the dear Jew. We do it so poorly. 1629 02:53:31.399 --> 02:53:37.760 We do it so poorly that then people do not see in many Christians or 1630 02:53:37.840 --> 02:53:43.440 in many pseudo- Christians what they should see us. Then we blame God 1631 02:53:43.440 --> 02:53:50.120 for everything. God is like this since Adam and Eve sinned. You know, 1632 02:53:50.280 --> 02:53:54.760 Adam blamed the woman, the serpent woman, and the serpent had to 1633 02:53:54.879 --> 02:54:01.200 shut up with was guilty. But the press will be guilty and that' 1634 02:54:01.280 --> 02:54:03.399 s where we all go. Many times we blame God for our misfortunes, 1635 02:54:03.799 --> 02:54:09.000 for our insanity, for our lights, for the misfortunes for which we are 1636 02:54:09.079 --> 02:54:13.079 responsible and say more, the name of God. People curse God' s 1637 02:54:13.120 --> 02:54:16.440 name when it goes wrong, but they don' t remember God when it 1638 02:54:16.479 --> 02:54:24.159 ' s right. It' s a society full of contractions, so I 1639 02:54:24.239 --> 02:54:30.399 think we can heal from that ally to God, this allergy to Christianity and 1640 02:54:30.639 --> 02:54:37.200 it' s knowing him personally. God can be known personally. Moreover, 1641 02:54:37.760 --> 02:54:41.079 although he is the highest character in history, neither kings nor anyone else is 1642 02:54:41.120 --> 02:54:46.040 more than God. But God is in the position of humility, in Christ 1643 02:54:46.159 --> 02:54:52.239 ' s stubbornness and is ready to receive us all right now, each one 1644 02:54:52.360 --> 02:54:56.079 of us, and he has the answer. He is the answer, because 1645 02:54:56.399 --> 02:55:01.079 you know little girls of the equation of this world, to the personal of 1646 02:55:01.120 --> 02:55:05.719 Christ who has nothing left. This is devastation, moral devastation, devastation in 1647 02:55:07.040 --> 02:55:11.399 every way. And well, he is the Creator God, he knows our 1648 02:55:11.479 --> 02:55:20.040 nature and he has so much compassion for us that we still often feel his 1649 02:55:20.840 --> 02:55:24.719 caress in the midst of our ignorance, in the midst of our evil doing, 1650 02:55:24.920 --> 02:55:28.719 in the midst of our failures that we all already have on a daily 1651 02:55:28.719 --> 02:55:33.200 basis. But he is still there to leave as the eternal rock of the 1652 02:55:33.319 --> 02:55:39.799 books we can trust, because he has overcome, we will overcome so it 1653 02:55:39.799 --> 02:55:45.840 is, dear friend, I believe it is a masterful conclusion to take into 1654 02:55:46.559 --> 02:55:52.680 account that counterpoint of something that seems to us also vital for the health of 1655 02:55:52.760 --> 02:55:58.680 the soul and for the destiny of the human being here and now, because 1656 02:55:58.680 --> 02:56:01.600 purgatory does not exist. This is a yes that is a true invention, 1657 02:56:01.799 --> 02:56:05.600 it is an invention of the Middle Ages, nonexistent in the Bible. They 1658 02:56:05.639 --> 02:56:09.360 do not allude to that or out of amazement, because Dr Roca, dear 1659 02:56:09.639 --> 02:56:16.159 friend, we are not satisfied with what you have told us to take into 1660 02:56:16.200 --> 02:56:20.360 account some things. Yes, and especially to go to consultations And it is 1661 02:56:20.440 --> 02:56:24.040 necessary, well, welcome, Thank you, Thank you, a big hug, 1662 02:56:24.200 --> 02:56:48.760 the whole audience until then embraces goodbye. Even we always had the evangelical 1663 02:56:48.840 --> 02:56:58.079 churches a place of peace and friendship. You can freely attend the nearest evangelical 1664 02:56:58.280 --> 02:57:01.440 church in your neighborhood or your population. You' ll be very welcome.