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This is I on the Ball with
Steve Rivera and Jaken Salles on Fox Sports

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Welcome to I on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve

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Rivera, He's Jakin's ass. Got
our boy No and again today on a

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Tuesday, the Swami I wanted to
say it. Did he say it?

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No, you were cloth it was
coming, you know it was. It

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did come last night. Let me
say, you know, when you've been

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around, you've been involved in a
relationship too long, but you forget about

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the anniversary of the relationship and three
years it's probably too long. I love

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you, Steve. I love you. Give me flowers. You didn't get

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me anything to give me there.
You didn't give me enough to give me

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nothing, not a burger, not
a chicken wing, nothing. I was

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going to say something, but you
put it to me by Betty. I

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did not. I did not take
Philly or I did not take Philly yesterday.

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I did not take Philly, and
I did not take the sons either.

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First who can about tell Okay,
you explain to them what I'm talking

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about. Well, the first one, the first you know, I as

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the as the resident kiss the death. No, no, no, that's

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not the first one O. The
first thing. Oh the anniversary. Oh

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I think it's I think it was
yesterday, so she said, she,

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I believe yesterday is Steve and I
three year anniversary doing this show together.

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Exactly. Um, you know,
well, the thing is, Steve,

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we don't have to go home with
each other. We see part time,

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part time people. We see each
other for two and a half three hours

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a day, which you know a
lot. I think a lot of marriages

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would last longer if that's all you
had to see the first I have a

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comment about that, but I won't
talk about but three years ago, three

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years ago, yesterday, Um,
we started the show. And really it

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was only like a week or two
even before that that we even came up

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with the idea to do it.
Wasn't that right you? You? I

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had just been I had just been
laid off from the from the Sugar Sculls

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because the season got cancel. You
remember what I know exactly, I remember

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exactly where I was. I want
to say, what what how did I

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go because I remember, okay,
well I had been laid off on a

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Monday morning. I went in on
a Monday morning and got the call,

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uh that that they were just cutting
all operations because of the pandemic. The

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season had been canceled. This time
it was not your front, right,

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the season had been canceled. So
I mean I completely understood. I was

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fully expecting the call. I got
the call. And so that was like

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on Monday morning. And on Tuesday
evening, my wife and I are out

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for a walk and I'm like,
I don't I don't have a job.

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I'm getting ready to apply for unemployment. You know, a whole bit ralph

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for a walk at you do all
you all park, you know, the

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the that goes around soft off field, And had to be after five.

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It was, it was, it
was, it was dark, it was

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late, it was late in the
after it was it was evening. It

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was early evening. And and you
texted me or something like you know,

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what are you doing or something like
that, and I said, well,

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actually, as I'm doing absolutely nothing
because I just got laid off. Yeah,

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no, no, no, so
this is not I remember. I

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think I must have texted you but
then I called you and it says,

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what are you up to? And
he says, what do you ask?

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Who are you talking to? And
I says nobody, but I have this

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idea. Yeah, because you you
you no one really knew your situation,

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right, it hadn't gotten out,
and I didn't know. I didn't know,

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I said, because I had some
people in mind, and I you

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know, you's right. I got
the call and it was kind of like

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I thought you were fishing for that, right right, right right because and

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I said we had a story,
but says, don't tell anybody until I

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checked into stuff. And I said, okay, no problem. I said,

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what do you like about this idea? And he says, m I've

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never done it before, but yeah, it sounds like an interest. Let

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me let me talk to some people. And you would have to talk to

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your boss, your wife exactly,
and yeah, you just said it.

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Well, the thing of it was
what I what else remember of that though?

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Was that you know, a month
earlier or two months or whenever,

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maybe a month earlier. Remember,
I had uh, Dixie Wooten and I

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had gone on your show for an
hour and as I'm walking out, I

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said something like, hey, we
gotta do this on a regular basis,

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on a regular basis. So that's
kind of where I what I remember from

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that, But I remember, yeah, that's right. It was like you

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were fishing. I thought you were
fishing for Did you get fired? Yeah?

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Yeah, no, no no,
I said, oh really, oh

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perfect time. It was perfect time. Every time. It just happenstance And

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I said, okay, kill we
run the story that you would let go

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in a couple of days. Yeah
yeah, and I yeah, I think

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you talked to both you and and
uh Havir Morales and that ran the story.

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And that was years interesting, three
years ago. It was. It

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was well, obviously it was in
April, so you know, they kept

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me on for like a month after
everything got canceled. Um, but as

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kind of we didn't know what we
were gonna do, right, so we

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were trying to keep things in order. I remember I was actually at the

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at the moment I got the phone
call. I had gone in because I

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was the only one that was still
doing anything. We had laid off,

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not laid off, but everybody we
had was contractors except me. I was

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the only employee, and I was
actually going in and filling T shirt orders.

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People are still ordering T shirts.
So I'm sitting there packing up some

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T shirts to get shipped out,
and they called me and said, get

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the road. Yeah, I see
you later. Yah yeah, okay,

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perfect time. It was two years
ago yesterday through a lot. You know,

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I keep, um, you know, everything, Well, since we've

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been doing this here, you know, we've been posting our social media every

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every day. We post you know, photos and you know the graphic that

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has everybody that uh that's been on
the show. So I you know,

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I go through the list and I
see people like you know, Bill Walton

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and Steve Kerr, Terry Francona,
um, all the you know, all

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the coaches's had, Mike Bibbie and
a bunch of the the the old basketball

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players, Pete Williams, a whole
bunch of times. Um. Uh,

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you know I'm sitting here. You
know, guys like Burt Knirk right who

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you know, a sports legend him
and Frank Lund who knows the former a

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d at Washington, Uh, Mike
Ludd together, We've had Greg Byrne.

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We've had uh, you know Olympians
like you know, Chrissy param and uh

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and uh Delaney Schnell. You know
Dave Hickey has been a friend of the

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show. A lot of local a
lot of the local guys, local media

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guys who have been great to us
and sometimes come on at the last minute.

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Sometimes they don't like today and we've
only got one guest. But you

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know Andy Lopez, uh, you
know basketball player, active basketball players and

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football players and whatnot. You know, I see a Zulus Tabellis in here

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that you know, we had him
on Kurk Cresa more recently, old friends

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like Jack McGruder, Greg Hanson,
I mean just I mean, I look

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at these pictures and it's just crazy
what we've been able to do over the

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last several years. You know,
Jason Gardner obviously, Jed Fish and Rich

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Rod a number of times, Keith
Smith and ortiez Jenkins. I mean,

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the list goes on and on.
You know, local folks, national folks.

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Um. You know, it's been
you know, national sports writers like

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Pad Forty, Mike Decorsi, Dennis
Dodd who you know, have millions of

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followers of you know, their their
shows and their Ralph Russo and the work

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that they do so um, just
a lot of cool stuff and it's been

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it's been great to be able to
talk to all these people. You know,

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we both have a lot of these
contacts, but some of them we

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just make as we go along,
right, you know. Um, Ryan

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Ratkey has been a great, great
friend of the show. Love. We've

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always loved having him on to talk
football and basketball. Steve Lavitt, right,

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UCLA guy, I'm flipping through the
pictures here right now. Um,

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you know, you know, and
again you know, Tommy Lloyd, all

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those guys. So it's just been
it's just been great. Yeah, let's

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say we can hang out for another
three you know, but you know,

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let's take him one at a time. No, No, the next one.

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I said, two things, Uh, anniversary and then hold you and

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then we're talking to God about the
game. Yes, oh, the short

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thing, the short thing, the
two foot pot as we call him.

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That was like a one foot ten
point favorite, and you tank it whatever

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they do. I didn't watch the
game until the end, and I'm thinking,

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what, well, I saw that
last shot by um by James Harden,

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and I'm like that that's just a
knife to Steve's chest right there.

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That was just a dagger to you. I'm like, and I'm not saying

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I wasn't rooting for that or anything. Right. I always want you to

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win, Steve, I really do. I really do want you to unless

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you're banded against me. I want
you to wink. But when he hit

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that shot, which one, because
the one the three point at the end,

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the one that hurt me, I
thought, and I just saw highlights

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was when he drove to the basket, kicked it out to the dude at

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the top of the key and he
hits the three pointer. I think there,

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I think I think the one Harden
he had put him on put him

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up two points, like within like
eight seconds second. That was I thought

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that was the other show. Yeah, and I saw it and I felt

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bad for you. But I gotta
tell you, I laughed out loud because

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I thought, that is just crap. Because I was thinking of what what

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Noah said that James Harden was gonna
do. I was gonna do something big

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yesterday, and he did. And
because he was the only dude left right

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everyone else, no I think about
his career. What happens when James Harden

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is the only guy to play for
his team, right, Like, he'll

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score a lot of points if you
If you couple that with the Celtics for

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getting to show up then of course
they're gonna win that game. You know,

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like it's not like like it's not
like no one else showed up there.

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They're role players there, James Hurd
at forty five and how many assists

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like five times something like that.
But it's like the Celtics didn't play defense

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and like they they always been playing
down to their opportents. They they like

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Trey average like thirty points in that
series. Of course Harden's gonna get you.

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So let's get in transition to something
that I saw maybe about two hours

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ago that really kind of piqued my
interest, and I said, what the

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hell is this student? You might
have to get the dumb button going here?

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OK. This is from NBA News
and Videos from yesterday. No disrespect

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to Steve Kerr, but Mark Jackson
put together and developed a dynasty with Stephan

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Curry, dream On Green, Clay
Thompson and the Golden State Warriors, Jackson

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surrounding them with phenomenal bench players and
the veteran leadership of andre Iguadella. It's

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gotta it's gotta be heartbreaking for Jackson
to see Kerr and join his vision and

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the fruits of his labor. What
the hell. This that reminds me of

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the Tommy Lloyd thing. Well,
Mark Jackson had all those guys and couldn't

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win with the exactly the point,
it's not just the same way that Tommy

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Lloyd is winning with the guys that
that that got Sean Miller fire and this

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same thing. And this is nine
years ago. At some point along the

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line, don't you start saying,
Steve Yeah, right, what this was

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posted a day ago. Sometimes people
can't drive the sports car. Some guy

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they get ticket, they reckon into
a tree or whatever. Right that somebody

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who could drive the sports car drive
sports car. I so, I so

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agree with you, because that's the
thing that's kind of bothering me. One

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of the things that bothering me about
what they say about Tommy, Well,

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he's winning with Sean Miller's guys.
Well, Sean Miller couldn't win with Sean

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Miller's guys, So what the hell
would they prefer him not to win with

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Miller? He's winning with Sean Miller's
guys, plus some guys that he's brought

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in like Umar Balow, you know, Courtney Raymy, you know, the

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guys like that. He has to
apologize and so so so what you know,

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it's it's on social media. Somebody
made the point. Yeah, well,

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you know one of those teams would
have gone to the NC Double A

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tournament, but the tournament got canceled. What you know what that team,

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we did not know if they were
they were a bubble team. Sure,

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sure, exactly so Sean Miller,
I mean, and I know other you

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know, the whole FBI thing was
obviously a factor, and the U have

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a just Clary just wanted to wash
its hands of it. But he was

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not winning, like like Tommy Lloyd
has won the last two years with those

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guys. So who know who do
you give credit to? You give credit

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to schan Miller for getting them here, or do you give credit for to

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Tommy Lloyd for taking them and doing
what he's done with them. Yeah,

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I think in that case you think
both of them, because yeah, but

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you also need to be a good
orchestra guy. If you're not a good

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orchestra guy to do the leadership of
the band thing, I'm doing the motion

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that they do, but you're not
gonna have good music, Tommy. Tommy

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Lloyd could have easily come in and
done the Dion Sanders thing and cleared out

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the locker room and and you know, scorched it and started all over instead.

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He said, these are the guys
I've got. I'm gonna do what

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I the best. I count to
them, and he let them loose and

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let them play, and he's as
we've said in many times, he won

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sixty one games. Which it still
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faith in Tommy Lloyd after sixty one
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I texted to call usaid and he
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Yeah, so you know, and
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a great car, but he he
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yeah, you don't put it in. They didn't. They didn't make a

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change just because they made a change
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And as you said, how many
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want to give Steve Kirk credit for
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Mark Jackson. Come one at least
I think it's four right or check?

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Yes, yes, okay, I
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really, you know what that is? What's probably that is the problem

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we have with social media is that
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somewhere. Did they really say it? Right? But then they said they

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put it here and we have to
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the next morning says, what did
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saying that. Did I go home
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did so, and you did it. You have to own that. Good

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luck with the We get to the
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coach, the successful guy. How
are you Marcus doing good? How are

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you guys doing We're fine? Hey, question uh, real quick, because

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you know that's what we do.
Uh. Two foot puts? How often

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should they be made? He said? Two? Two foot puts? I

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have a reason why I'm asking the
question. Those those can't be missing exactly

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exactly every single we've met make bets
or two foot puts and they we lose

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them all that we miss them all
the time. What's up with that?

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We suck mark for for Marcus for
for the Just to clarify on this,

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okay, you know, if there's
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plus five hundred plus six hundred plus
seven hundred on the money line, we

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call those two foot puts because you
take them just to kind of boost your

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bed a little bit, and then
they lose. And Steve had one of

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those yesterday. He had the Celtics
again, he had the sell ticks against

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them. All they had to do
was win. They didn't have to they

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didn't have to cover a line.
All they had to do was win,

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and he lost. It's unbelievable.
Marcus, you're in the state of Coach

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Staate of coach coaches kids. Another
another great showing for you. What the

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heck, Marcus? Yeah, we're
you know, the boys are trending in

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the right direction. You know,
we had a bit of a hiccup at

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the region regional championship. Maria's doing
great and Helica Martinez just made the national

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championship. You know, the programs
are off to another great year. So

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where you headed to? Now,
Yeah, you've got you Okay, So

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your guys won the region championship,
So what's next? Now? We had

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to sand Creek Station golf Course in
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You've got to Kansas before for this, haven't you? I reasonly asked,

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is Kansas sounds familiar? Or maybe
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soccer. So we we've only been
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Yeah, and then the year before
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been to Kansas as far as golf
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you know, Miami Beach or you
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Why can't they be in somewhere cool? Right? Right? I mean,

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what the each of that, you
know, someone where it's fun to

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play? I don't know anything about
Kansas, right where you going? What's

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what's the place against in Kansas called
Sand Creek Station golf Course? Exactly?

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Where the world is? Says Where
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there's way too many words. Yeah, I don't know what that means in

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Kansas exactly. Yeah, but to
your benefit you're going back. How do

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you feel when you when you were
able to qualify, you know, it

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was it was a mixed feeling.
Um. You know, we went into

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the tournament as highly favored of winning
it, but our boys, you know,

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we didn't really compete as you know, in my opinion as region champions,

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I don't think we competed as a
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the national tournament. We had a
lot of fumbles, we had a lot

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of mispuss There was just a lot
of a lot of bad things that happened.

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But we were able to, um, you know, we were able

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to face adversity pretty well by the
fourth day and secure it. But it

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was stressful and it was hard,
and it was a lot closer than it

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should have been. So we're feeling
good that we qualified, but we know

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that we need to go back to
the course for the next two weeks and

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figure out, you know, our
lineup and what we're going to do in

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Kansas because as of right now,
you know, we you know, we

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won. It wasn't pretty okay,
I mean, it's it seems like,

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I mean, you guys obviously have
high standards for yourselves, but you still

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have to be really happy with what
you did. Right Absolutely, you know,

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we just went back to back.
You know, it's a great time

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to you know, for us as
a program and all of our boys.

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You know, it's a great time. It's just like you said, you

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know, the standards are are are
so high with the program that it is

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hard sometimes to find, uh,
you know, it's hard to take yourself

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out of your shoes and go,
look, we I know, we didn't

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play our greatest golf, but we're
still region champions at the end of the

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day. And not a lot of
kids get get to say that when they're

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done with their college career. Not
a lot of coaches get to say that

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they've done back to back region championships. So that's true, and it's super

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happy and and now that we're kind
of removed from the region championship and I'm

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super blessed to be part of these
guys journeys. It was it was a

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lot of fun, but way too
close. So I don't Maybe Jay will

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remember what I said about this,
because I don't remember much of coach.

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So when you're motivating your kids and
can give them a pep talk if you

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do, what do you say to
them? Because they're kind of individuals,

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they just comprise the team. But
I think we asked this, I asked

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this of the women's golf coach or
the tennis coach. You go in there

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and give them some kind of you
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or you just let them play.
Um. You know, it depends on

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the day. You know, going
into day one, it's kind of just

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let's go out, let's feel it, let's play. I'm not gonna lie

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to you. After day three there
was a lot of a lot of words

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that would be bleeped out from this
interview. So you know, you kind

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of got to go in and give
them that rocky speech and you know,

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let's go. We got a legacy
to to keep building, uh, and

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you try and motivate them in that
way. Um, but you know,

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it depends on the situation. You
know, after the third day of regionals,

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we were neck and neck with the
team behind us, uh, and

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you know that we weren't expecting that. So and kudos to that team,

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they played outstanding golf. How does
that work when, as as Steve said,

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you got your you're giving them a
talk and then they're going off individually

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to try to play well. How
do you put them in a frame of

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mind that is going to work for
that When you get down to the nitty

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gritty of it, golf is at
the college level, it's really a team

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sport because that number one guy,
he can go shoot whatever. He you

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know, he can go shoot in
the sixties. But it doesn't matter unless

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that fifth guy comes in with the
score that we can use or that fourth

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guy comes in. So, I
mean, you know, it's great for

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the individual. We play the team
sport and every guy has to come together

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out there. And so a lot
of times what I would tell them,

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as this is a perfect example,
is when you're making verties and you're making

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cars out there, you know you're
not making it for yourself, You're making

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it for your brothers, so you
can back them up when they make a

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mistake and really just make it for
everybody goes with the same goal and same

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mind up with a you know,
first team. Obviously, once they get

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up there, it kind of on
them to continue that and myself to remind

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them throughout the day. But at
the college level, you know, the

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number one is only as good as
the number six. You know, we're

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all as strong as our strong as
our weakest length. So it's funny,

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Jay, because we talk about this
all the time. We've talked about with

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Steve Kurlick being the guy um,
and you bring this up that you don't

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want if if we're if there were
threesome, you me and Jay, you

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don't want to disappoint the guy next
to you because he's trying to not disappoint

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you, and together you're just moving
forward, trying not to fail, right,

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right, And I wouldn't say,
you know then that's kind of what

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our boys are are are trying to
do on this course, not necessarily not

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to fail for each other, but
how can you give another guy the opportunity,

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you know, if if you go
out and have a birdie, well,

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I don't want to have a bogie
because it makes your birdie not look

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as good. You know, I
want to have a tar at least right

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right, So I want you to
ask him, Jake, because you'll say

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it, because you're passionate about this. The Yannis uh excuse or whatever we

408
00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:57.359
said about failure in success. I
don't know if you saw Yannis after they

409
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guy after uh the Bucksky to eliminate
talk, somebody asked them, you know,

410
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is this season of failure? You
know, because they came in they

411
00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:08.759
were the number one seed in the
in the in the in the NBA,

412
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but then they go out in the
first round to a number eight seed.

413
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And his comment was, you know
there are no failures, you know you

414
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I mean, yes, did you
want to win, yes, did you

415
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try to win yes? But you
know you compete and you know it's it's

416
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not a failure. And I really
liked what he said about that. I

417
00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:33.160
took it to heart that a game
can be a failure. But you know,

418
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in this sort of in the context
of Arizona basketball, people said that,

419
00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:38.960
well, they lost the Princeton so
the season was a failure. And

420
00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:42.319
now you and now you're you're in
a situation where you know you have high

421
00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:48.839
expectations for yourself. You know,
let's just ask you. You know,

422
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.119
if you don't win the national championship, is your season of failure? You

423
00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:56.720
know, not at all, because
you know, I've got to grow with

424
00:27:56.200 --> 00:28:02.079
these boys over the last three years
and and we built relationships that are gonna

425
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:04.400
last a lifetime. And you know, I could give you, you know,

426
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:08.640
a thousand different memories of us laughing
and having fun and and the best

427
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:11.720
part about having fun with these boys
is we were doing it while we were

428
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:15.119
winning. You know, there's there's
a difference when you're having fun and goofing

429
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:18.799
off if you're losing. You know, we were fortunate enough that we were

430
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:22.319
winning while we were doing it.
Um, you know, if that doesn't

431
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:25.480
happen, it's not a failure,
dude. That's what our goals are shut

432
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:27.440
out for. But you know,
it's never a failure when you when you're

433
00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:33.279
around to people and you know you
guys are chasing greatness. That's that's that's

434
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:37.559
just a perfect answer, because that
to me, that's what that's what it's

435
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:40.720
a failure. If you hate your
season, you hate your coach, you

436
00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:45.839
hate your teammates, and it just
isn't rewarding to be around these guys.

437
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.200
To me, that's a failure.
But that's more. That's less about winning,

438
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:52.440
more about you know, the experience
that you have. To me,

439
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:57.279
I as rely so that that's kind
of on that experience, you know,

440
00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:00.920
that's you know, that was Ultimately
we want to win at the end of

441
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:03.720
the day. That's our job.
It's just the boys job, the girl's

442
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.920
job. But I'm a big believer
and I want them to remember this time

443
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:11.440
in ten years. I want them
to go, oh, man, you

444
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.720
remember that region championship. We almost
you know it, didn't you know,

445
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:17.559
we kind of we came so close
or we did win the whole thing.

446
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:19.240
You know. I want them to
remember the fun stuff because at the end

447
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:22.079
of the day, we're trying to
have fun. You know, I wouldn't

448
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:23.759
do this job as I wouldn't having
fun. And I tell our boys a

449
00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:26.599
second, we don't have fun.
I'm doing my job, you know,

450
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.680
wrong, and we need to fix
it. So having fun again. Okay,

451
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.440
So you guys are headed to the
national championship tournament. In the national

452
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:36.559
tournament, what's what's the preparation,
like, what are you guys up to

453
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:42.160
a lot of a lot of playing. It's really getting them mentally, mentally

454
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:49.440
focused, and physically ready for four
straight days in a different environment. So

455
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:52.200
it's just a lot of playing,
not a whole lot of drills, not

456
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:55.640
a whole lot of you know,
make twenty puts, you know, make

457
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:57.960
twenty ships. It's really just we
get you a teatime, let's go see

458
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:00.319
what we can do, you know, but let's see who the lowest score

459
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:06.160
is today. We'll do that for
the next two weeks almost every day.

460
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:10.559
See what our lineup is, you
know, see who's going to be our

461
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:12.559
number four and five guys, who's
going to be a substitute. So the

462
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:15.359
guys still have a lot of pressure
on their side. They're trying to,

463
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:19.400
you know, qualify themselves for the
national tournament because they have such a good

464
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:23.599
team. But it's just a lot
of playing right now. From a personal

465
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:27.720
side, how satisfying is it for
you to continue the success you're on.

466
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.720
It's it's incredible, you know,
it feels like a dream, it really

467
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.519
does. I think everybody when you
start coaching and you get to coaching at

468
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:41.720
a high school right or or a
middle school, you want to get to

469
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:45.839
that college level. Unfortunately, was
you know, blessed to get your much

470
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:49.960
faster than most. But then define
success while you're doing it, is,

471
00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:52.920
you know, validation for what you're
doing, all the hard work, you

472
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:57.039
know, the sacrifice and just seeing
the smiles on the boys faces when we

473
00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:00.519
went to reach the championship. Nothing
like that. And uh, you know,

474
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:06.160
I genuinely feel like I'm living a
stream and uh, there successfully have.

475
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:10.279
It's incredible. Well, you're an
old grizzled veteran now because I know

476
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:12.480
when you when the first time we
had drawn the show, you were brand

477
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.119
new did this? You were like
the you know, the little kid at

478
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:18.799
the in the athletic department. And
now you've been around a while, you've

479
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.599
got some You've got some miles.
Um, you know, do you do?

480
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.200
You believe this? But I bet
you you guys wouldn't believe this stat

481
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:32.200
if so in our conference when we
all play together, I have been the

482
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:36.519
coach the second longest of any coach
in our conference right now. That is

483
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:40.519
crazy, is it? Because the
other people have been let go or they

484
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:45.799
moved on yet both of those you
know, some of moved on to either

485
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:51.079
other jobs, some of them let
go just from poor performance. Um,

486
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:53.759
but it stands that you know,
Mason Community College, John Guerrero has been

487
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:56.960
there for you know, twenty something
years. I you know, I don't

488
00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.839
know. I don't think I'll get
to twenty years. But I've been as

489
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:06.400
the second longest. Wow. So
I know we're trying to talk about your

490
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:07.279
team, but I want to,
you know a little bit more about so

491
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:10.720
when in this time that you've been
the head coach there, how do you

492
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:15.920
perceive what are some of the things
that you feel like you've learned the most

493
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:22.920
about not just coaching, but about
yourself as a coach. Yeah, I

494
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:27.799
you know, I don't really just
think it's it's relationships. The boys are

495
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.880
the boys are a million times more
likely to go out there and compete for

496
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:35.200
you when you know when they're when
there's love involved. You know, when

497
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.279
when you love them, they love
you and they love the program, and

498
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.200
when our relationship is great. So
I would just say relationships. You know,

499
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:44.599
my relationship with Jim Monica, the
athletic director. You know, he's

500
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:47.000
been a father figure for me for
the last three or four years, and

501
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:50.440
I love that guy. To jas
Um. You know, just all sorts

502
00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:52.680
of people that I've gotten to meet
at the end of the day, it's

503
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:57.599
all about relationships and you know,
making those experiences great. I would say

504
00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:01.920
that's probably when I take it in
the most from and what I making people

505
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:07.680
happy but also trying to strive for
something better at the end of the day.

506
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:10.119
But making those relationships has great.
So what do you like about your

507
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:15.519
team heading into this tournament this year
as a post to last year? This

508
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:19.839
team is hungry because this team knows
they can do it, and this team

509
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:23.480
knows that nobody's going to hand them
a national championship. This team knows they

510
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:27.720
have to work for it. But
I think the most important thing is this

511
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.480
team knows they can they can pull
it off. So I think you should

512
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:36.799
go to your your your dad,
like you said, your father figure,

513
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:43.720
and that's for a bigger allowance.
Well then he'll then he won't be the

514
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:49.200
longest coach in the good point.
You better not do that, right,

515
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:53.400
Coach Marcus, Thanks as usual,
Good luck to you. Thank you know,

516
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:57.920
I appreciate you guys. Hopefully we're
on after the national tournament. Hopefully

517
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:02.119
we're bringing back bringing back somehow man, it sounds great. Good luck Marcus.

518
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:07.639
Coach Marcus, the conversation always cracks
me up. Because I feel like

519
00:34:07.639 --> 00:34:14.199
I'm talking to my kid and don't
forget to tuck your shirt in and get

520
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:16.360
your take your Jamie with you and
all the other stuff. What a good

521
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:20.440
kid. I think he's got to
be twenty four about that. Yeah,

522
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:22.760
because you talked about twenty one,
I think. Yeah, Okay, Well,

523
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:25.320
good luck to him. You didn't
ask him for any tips. I

524
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:30.760
did not. I might. I'm
hopeless as far as that goes. Really,

525
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:34.920
Yeah, you've got forty years of
news too. I've been bat at

526
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.960
it for fifty years, so why
change it changes? Okay, we've got

527
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:39.639
to go to break, all right, let's go to break. We'll be

528
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back. We'll take your calls five
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529
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talking about anything you want to talk about.

530
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531
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584
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or anything you you're saying. I
got a text earlier for one of our

585
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guys, saying that I won't see
who it was because you know him and

586
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:42.960
I won't say his name. Umm. Oh, it's harder for Tommy because

587
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he was working with someone else's players, but in essence, so was Steve.

588
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So you know. But again,
a good coach will go in there

589
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and and and you know the good
a good coach and the right coach,

590
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right, somebody who's got an open
mind will go and say, Okay,

591
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this is what I've got, and
so this is what I'm gonna do.

592
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:04.400
You know, I mean, you
know who who I thought was perfect with

593
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:07.840
that Rich rud right, I mean
you think about the guys. He didn't

594
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:13.719
have great players, but yet he
put an offense together because he he he

595
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:17.360
based it on who he who he
had, right the offense he ran with

596
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:22.880
Matt Scott his first year was different
from the offense he ran with with with

597
00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:28.960
uh Bj Denker, and different from
the offense he ran with Andrew Solomon.

598
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:31.880
Those were three completely different offenses because
there were three completely different quarterbacks, and

599
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:36.400
he won with all three of those
guys. And and and he you know,

600
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:38.039
he saw the receivers that he had, he saw the line that he

601
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:44.000
and he built his his offense around
guys that he had. And that's what

602
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:45.679
a good coach will do. And
that's what Tommy Lloyd has done. That's

603
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:50.559
what Steve Kerr did, and that's
been That was the knock on Sean Miller,

604
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:53.320
that Sean Miller would do what he
wanted to do, regardless of who

605
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:55.679
he had, no question. And
I think part of it and I said

606
00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:59.719
this to somebody earlier this week when
we were talking about this, um you

607
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:02.519
had this guy like you described Sean, which I think is perfect. And

608
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:07.519
he come in with the step dad
who lets them do things within reason,

609
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:10.760
says, Okay, you're not gonna
have a ten o'clock curfew, but don't

610
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:15.280
screw up. I'm gonna let you
guys be free. Uh, don't get

611
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:17.679
in trouble, but you're gonna be
have a more freer playing playing way.

612
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:24.559
And guess what, they loved it. They took it and it worked and

613
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:30.079
it continues to work right right,
and you know, and I mean,

614
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:35.719
you know, for anybody to be
unhappy that Tommy Lloyd didn't get to a

615
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:39.559
final four in his first two years
is beyond me. Yeah, continues to

616
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:44.719
be beyond me, you know.
So you know, I mean I hope

617
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:46.719
at some point, I hope,
at some point and this will come to

618
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:52.239
to the case, uh, that
we eventually run out of this topic because

619
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:59.000
because because he'll be fine. He
said he's gonna be fine and trust the

620
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:01.800
process, you know, Sean said
that, wait till it all comes to

621
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:07.400
fruition, right, Yeah. I
mean again, you know, he's one.

622
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.360
It's not like he was, you
know, a head coach at some

623
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:14.800
other big program and just you know, moved his thing over here. I

624
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:16.400
mean, he's a brand regardless of
how long he was an assistant. He's

625
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:20.800
a brand new head coach. And
I think you have to I think that

626
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:24.119
has to be a consideration because you
feel like, you know, uh,

627
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:27.199
well, you know, he's been
around a long time. Yeada, yea,

628
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:29.320
he should be able to do all
the same. I don't know.

629
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:35.599
I know I shouldn't. I shouldn't
have to be here defending Tommy Lloyd.

630
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:38.840
Right, I feel like we well
and you don't, and you don't if

631
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:40.960
you didn't believe what you're saying.
Right, you know what I'm saying.

632
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:44.440
You're not You're not. I'm not
an al boy guy. You know that.

633
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:46.920
And there's not an aliby needed.
He has what he's done, and

634
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:52.559
he's done very well and he doesn't
need us exactly. Point. Cannot see

635
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:55.119
my point. We just bring it
up because we get frustrated rated with what

636
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:59.039
people are saying. I just get
frustrated with the fans. Yeah, you

637
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:01.519
know, but that's the way.
They are your people, man, they

638
00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:07.880
they're your people. You know you
need to not say that because you don't

639
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:15.440
know what to say. I don't
want to have one six seventy all right,

640
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:16.440
So who you're taking the night?
Yeah, well, I know you're

641
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:21.000
taking the Warriors, but you're not
gonna take anything to You're not gonna play

642
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:24.519
anything. That was like, I'm
at the emergency room right now because that

643
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:29.079
was a I'm a wounded bird,
all right. Nicks that nicks and heat

644
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:31.760
that's over. That's Nicks. We're
gonna win. I don't mean the Heat's

645
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:35.719
gonna win that you think so?
Yeah, yeah, what's the name is

646
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:40.519
like, didn't you say as us
Jimmy Butler's got an ankle the size of

647
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:45.840
a softball or something. Yeah,
they ruled them out. I think that

648
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:46.719
would be the best thing, kind
of sent them out for Game two.

649
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:51.039
They already took control, got to
split on the road. Yeah, yeah,

650
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:53.960
I still think the Heat aren't gonna
do it, not because they won

651
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:58.920
the first game. I just thought
that the Warriors in five or six did

652
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:01.599
what we talk about five or six, uh, and then the Suns,

653
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:07.440
then the Denver Broncos, the Denver
Nuggets in about five or six, uh,

654
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:12.079
and here we go. I just
kind of hope the Nuggets placed the

655
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:15.039
Warriors because I have both of them. Um oh yeah, they went into

656
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:22.840
is your bet on NBA Championship Conference? Both both? Yeah, because it's

657
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:25.639
gonna be tough. Well in the
East now, who knows, because Milwaukee's

658
00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:29.440
gone, so that kind of free
to open a spot. Yeah in Boston

659
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:31.079
if they continue the lost at home, all right, So you don't know.

660
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:34.800
So you have you have, you
have two like lines you put down

661
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:37.199
the right long. Yeah, Well
so if you if you could, like

662
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:40.519
I don't know who would if you
could ask, if you could say,

663
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:43.400
like who do you think is a
better chance? And then who would you

664
00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:45.320
say? Denver? So then would
you would would you kind of root for

665
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:49.880
the Lakers to give them easier path
because he'd rather have no, because I

666
00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:52.280
think I would rather have two short, short things. But like that's the

667
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:55.880
that's the thing. Like I think
that if if the Warriors get to the

668
00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:00.480
like I think words or lesser chance
to win UF they beat Denver like you

669
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:02.360
just was in the finals, I
think the Nuggets have like an easy,

670
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:06.920
like easy road, they have a
better chance of winning that. I feel

671
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:08.960
like both of those two if they
beat each other up in the Western Conference

672
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:12.239
finals. You know, yeah,
yeah, I see what you're saying.

673
00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:16.599
But I don't believe that America.
If he sees his teams move up in

674
00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:21.960
the bracket, that's just just surviving
advance. Maybe just don't let Jay pick

675
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:23.639
the Are you gonna get upset if
I take the Warriors today? Oh no,

676
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:27.079
no, no, no, no
not at all. What's it's four

677
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:29.800
and a half. In four and
a half, it's in it's in four

678
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:32.320
and a half in Golden State at
Golden State. No, because this is

679
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:36.920
a this is a sprinting to the
marathon, not a sprint. The Knicks

680
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:42.599
are minds for sixty tonight, when
Steve, are you taking the Lakers tonight?

681
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:47.760
Come on? I knew what I
saw this schrist Jay put something on.

682
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:52.760
It's not even that it's it's the
fact that he starts to think about

683
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:54.960
it, and then you know that
the basketball gods were like when you're invested

684
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:58.760
with Seave Now, it wasn't even
like you didn't take the bed she supposed

685
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:00.079
to close. I just could.
It's fun. It was just the two

686
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:05.400
foot put that he said. What
did he say? One percent of the

687
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:08.000
time? But how many times you've
missed? But and I've done the same,

688
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:12.320
dude. The one that I missed, I had. I took the

689
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:15.880
Bucks when they were up fifteen in
the second half. I took them on

690
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:21.960
the money line and they lost.
Oh that was the final that they lost

691
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.159
because I could because I had put. I had, I had taken the

692
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:30.440
Warriors, and so I wanted to
bump up the bet just a little bit.

693
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:35.639
And I'm gonna take this shirt thing
because it moves it enough to make

694
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:37.880
it worth my while, and then
they were I took him at minus eight

695
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:43.079
fifty and they lost. If you
don't see that, you're the curse.

696
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:50.760
If you don't know that, you're
the problem. So it's like Dylan Brooks,

697
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:54.079
Yeah yeah, okay, okay,
so we'll talk about that later,

698
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:57.920
which is great, hilarious. That
was I mean, that was one of

699
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:01.000
the worst. Oh yeah, miss
this is after fifteen fifteen. But I

700
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:05.320
mean, I mean I took uh. I had a couple of college uh

701
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:09.119
it took something like you know those
uh, you know eight leg college money

702
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:13.960
line parlays, right. I mean
I had a team that was minus uh

703
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:19.280
fifteen hundred that lost. I had
a team that was minus ten thousand that

704
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:21.960
lost. I give I'll give you. I mean, I promise that is

705
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:23.719
not your worst loss you'll ever have, because you will have some other worst

706
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:25.880
one. Oh yeah, yeah.
I mean I had a seven team er

707
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:30.199
uh and just you know, we
met ten twenty bucks uh with Arizona against

708
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:35.000
Stanford, and all I needed it
was Arizona to close it out. They

709
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:37.719
had that lead, member like a
twelve point lead, and they blew it.

710
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:42.000
And I'm thinking, and I had
my pulse on the my fingers on

711
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:44.920
the on the get out of the
bad thing. They said, no,

712
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:46.480
They'm gonna lose this, and they
came down to six, they came down

713
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:50.440
to four. They're still not gonna
lose this, and then they lost.

714
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:54.679
How the world I should gonna have
hit that a long time ago, I

715
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:59.519
called my parachute. Yeah, I
it just it just drives me crazy.

716
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:01.400
And funny thing about it though,
Jay with the basketball team, I'll go

717
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:06.000
back one more time. They how
did they lose their games in the regular

718
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:08.239
season? Pretty much? Four games, five games, most of them coming

719
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:13.199
from behind. They had, they
had the lead. How they do against

720
00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:15.719
the pencil? Yeah, if you
are who you are, you are who

721
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:17.840
you are, and people didn't want
to recognize that exact combody did, I

722
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:21.719
mean exactly? He thought they were
gonna, you know, yeah, if

723
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:22.519
you are who you are, and
that's what they do who they were.

724
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:27.079
Yeah, I think we shouldn't be
surprised. No, we shouldn't. But

725
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:32.719
Dangan, this is six weeks one, about six weeks after the fact,

726
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:43.239
we're still six weeks after the season, still lamenting this, Steve. That

727
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:45.280
is what it is. Yeah,
I don't know what to do. I'm

728
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:47.840
looking at and I haven't baseball.
I can't tell you because I don't.

729
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:52.119
I haven't paid attention to any of
that. Did you see that Aaron Boone?

730
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:54.760
They're calling for his head? Yan
Yeah, because they're that bad.

731
00:47:57.159 --> 00:48:00.320
I've never I remember when they got
they hired him. I thought, I

732
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:04.679
don't see that guy being personality A
guy, you know, in a locker

733
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:07.400
room that's gonna, you know,
especially in a Yankee locker room, that's

734
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:14.639
gonna be able to you know,
just have have their ear right, Yeah?

735
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:17.719
With the egos. Yeah. Let
me also say this, just referring

736
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:22.719
to the Mark Jackson Steve kerrting,
do you know how difficult it is to

737
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:28.599
to rain in a bunch of star
players? And Kerr is the perfect guy

738
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:34.039
for that because you have six dudes
that have this ego, dream on being

739
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:37.360
part of the leader of it,
and how you keep them happy with one

740
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.159
basketball and one you know what I'm
saying, it doesn't happen. It doesn't

741
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:44.559
happen if you're Steve Kerr. Won
you show him your rings? Right?

742
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:47.079
You say? I know you guys
think that I'm you know, it was

743
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:51.960
just some role player. But I've
got what what do you have? Six?

744
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:55.800
Six rings or five? Rings as
a player, yeah, and then

745
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:59.559
a bunch more and now as a
coach, and you just go, I

746
00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:01.000
know, I think, I know, you think you can. You know

747
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:04.599
you you can take me one on
one on the corporate I was a pretty

748
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:07.159
damn good player who played on some
of the greatest teams in the NBA.

749
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:13.920
So if you think that I don't
have the knowledge or experience that's needed to

750
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:17.480
run this team, then get the
hell out of here, right And and

751
00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:20.559
I think, and then then I
think, on top of everything else,

752
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:23.199
he's he's such a humble guy that
they do enjoy playing for him. I

753
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:28.320
really think that they do. Uh, And guys, you know, that's

754
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:30.599
what guys are looking for. And
I think probably they respect the fact that

755
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:34.239
he has been, you know,
in the locker room and he's been on

756
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:39.599
these on these teams. You can't
deny his resume. So I don't know,

757
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:45.079
um, but you know he he
again, you know when he gets

758
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:47.039
up and talks about himself, and
you know he's such a you know,

759
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:52.039
very self effacing kind of guy.
You know, you want a guy who

760
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:54.519
doesn't have a huge ego because you
feel like if he makes a move,

761
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:59.199
it's he's making a move. About
the team, You're not about him,

762
00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:02.760
right, and he has good people
surrounding him who make the decisions. He's,

763
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:05.639
you know what I'm saying, in
the GM role and all that.

764
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:07.719
So a perfect marriage, perfect merge. Getting back to your Yankee take,

765
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:14.320
the Yankees are fifteen and fifteen taboo
for Yankees, but they're in last place

766
00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:16.880
in their division and they're eight and
a half games out of first place.

767
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:22.440
That's a hard place to be,
you know, Yankee month, you know

768
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:25.280
and change. That's a hard heell
decline for the rest of the year.

769
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:30.880
When you get you behind that many
games, it's a slog the entire season.

770
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:31.480
You know, you win a game, you lose the game. You

771
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:34.599
win a game, you lose a
game. You know, I suppose that.

772
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:36.960
You know, the Dodgers are only
four games over five hundred, but

773
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:39.280
they're in first place. They're you
know, head of the Diamondbacks by half

774
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:43.440
a game. And you know,
you got Colorado down at nine and twenty.

775
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:46.880
Colorado's nine and twenty, but they're
closer to first place than the Yankees

776
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:52.400
are. So you know, the
Yankees don't take losing. Colorado can't move

777
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:54.440
to that division. Yeah, So
it is what it is. You have

778
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:59.880
to play with what you're given.
Yeah, okay, Okay, I don't

779
00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:05.679
know, man, it's a you
know again, what you know, what

780
00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:08.920
are your standards? Right the you
know the Yankees Yankees managers about probably about

781
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:13.719
to get fired, you know.
But you know, and I and I

782
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:17.079
and you know, I think Tory
Lavallo over at the Diamondbacks, you know,

783
00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:20.440
kind of on the hot seat starting
the season. But he's got his

784
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:23.079
team half a game out of first
place. So you know, I could

785
00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:29.599
not tell you because he let go
bump bump guard, right or who's on

786
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:31.519
that roster? Well, I know
Zach Gallen is the best pitcher. He's

787
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:36.000
one of the best pitchers because he's
my top pitch on the Oh, you

788
00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:37.360
haven't cursed him yet. I have
not. He hasn't got the memo.

789
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:40.000
No, he doesn't know, just
bout us talking about it. He's just

790
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:47.280
over here. It's over now.
He's gonna go into the tope. I

791
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:52.440
get paid in my ear. He's
about to go into the toilet just because

792
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:53.679
of me. The dog the team
trips. I see nothing in there,

793
00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:57.960
but I hear it. Okay,
I just got to I just got a

794
00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:00.719
twinge in my neck. What the
hell? It starts with the ge,

795
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:04.159
it ends with the back he's throwing
tonight, I'm gonna have to throw a

796
00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:07.840
little, little little change on here. This is gonna be fun. Okay,

797
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:10.400
four and two outs today. All
right, let's take our break here

798
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:13.679
at the top of the hour,
we'll be back with breaking news, all

799
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:15.920
kinds of stuff out there for good
old note, We'll be right back