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let's get into Ignition. We want to

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talk about the Continental Classic. The
brackets are starting to fill out. We've

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got some people with six points already
and some people with no points after two

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matches. So the question is who
do we see is the four semi finalists,

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two from each league, the Blue
League and the Gold League. In

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the Continental Classic. Maybe ultimately maybe
you want to say who wins the Continental

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Classic title? The professional? What
are your thoughts on this? Yes,

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it is me the professional, first
time here on ignition. Thank you everyone.

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First off, my thoughts in the
Condomental Classic. This is a fantastic

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tournament. I've never really watched the
G One from start to finish when you

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saw it, maybe in twenty nineteen
when John Boxes his first year in the

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g One, but I really didn't
finish it. But just to see this

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kind of tournament that's similar to the
G One here North America, It's been

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fantastic. It's been great, I
would say, like in my opinion right

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now, just looking at the standings
for each league, you got John Moxley,

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Swerve Strickland both were six points in
the Go League, and then you

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got Brody King the only person only
wrestler in the Blue League with a perfect

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record too and oh six points.
I think those three individuals are gonna be

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in the semi finals. And then
you add Brian Danielson into the mix.

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That is my pick for the semifinals. Swerve Strickland, John Moxley out of

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the Goal League, they've got Brody
King and Brian Danielson coming out of the

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Bow League, well the professional So
we we talked about who has six points

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and who you think is. Do
you think any of these wrestlers are going

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to get zero points throughout the whole
tournament. Yeah, that's a good question.

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You've got four wrestlers right now with
open two records. You got Jay

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Leath and Martin Briscow out of the
Goal League, and he got Daniel Garcia

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and Eddie Kingston out of the Blue
League, all of zero points, all

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two matches each under their belts.
I mean, I'm leaning towards Eddie Kingston

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having no points. I think that, Yeah, I think that this is

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going to start a story where he's
just spiraling downward, where he just loses

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a lot of hope, a lot
of faith in himself as a wrestler,

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and we start to see that redemption
arc. I don't know where he's going

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to culmminate. Maybe it's double or
nothing, maybe it's forbidden door, maybe

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it's all in. Who knows,
but I think we're there. They're setting

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up for Eddie Kingston's to really have
this big redemption arc and maybe that's something

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that he really does well in We
saw that with the chase for the ro

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Championship and trying to get back at
Claudio for all those years of them hating

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each other. That's what I'm starting
to foresee. Maybe Daniel Garcia also or

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could perhaps had no wins, but
I think it's coming out of the blue

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league. I don't foresee Mark Brisco
not winning the match. I don't foresee

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j Letho not win the match.
But again, my my pick is on

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Eddie Kingston to go without winning a
single match, and maybe a close second

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would be Dane Garcia lucky. What
about you? What do you think?

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Who are your semi finalists for the
for the Continental Classic? Uh? Brody

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king Swarft, Strickland and Moxley and
Brian Danielson and uh? And who you

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got is the winner? I want
Swerve to win? You want? And

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do you think anybody's gonna come up
with zero points? Sadly, I think

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one of my favorites, Eddie Kingston, is gonna be zero, but I

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hope not. But I think what
they're gonna do is that he tried to

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be the big bad guy or the
big guy with like the two titles.

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He put him up there and then
he lost it even though he didn't need

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to, and now he's going to
lose him and then probably go down like

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either he probably heeled route and do
something there. I don't know, but

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sadly I think he's going to be
a zero points You know what shades when

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when Eddie Kingson lost his first match, I was thinking, Okay, they're

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setting him up for this massive comeback. Do you think that the down two

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matches now at zero points, is
that insurmountable or do you think they may

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still have him come back and sneak
his way into semi finals. I think

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it would be really contrived if if
Eddie came back now. I think I

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think Eddie needs some adversity. We've
seen Eddie overcome the odds with you know,

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Claudio to win the title, but
he's he's no. I don't see

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Eddie coming back from O two.
My semi finalists out of the Blue League

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are gonna be Danielson and Andrade Ledelo, because I think they're priming Andrade for

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a huge push, and I think
he's gonna have a monster confrontation with Miro

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at some point obviously, and then
out of the Gold League. I have

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swerved like everyone else, and I've
vastly I thought Moxley at first, but

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I'm like, you know, I
think it would be better for the tournament

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if it were not Moxley. It
would be better for the tournament if it

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were Jay White. And I know
Jay White has lost to Swerve, but

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that's the only match he needs to
lose. Like Jay White could go four

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and one and get twelve points and
still be in the Semis. And so

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I think it's gonna be Swerve and
Jay White, and it's gonna be My

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Danielson in Andrada, and I think
Danielson's gonna win. And I think Eddie

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is going to beat Claudio this week
though, so he's gonna it's Eddie's not

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gonna go over because I don't think. I don't know, maybe Eddie will

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lose to Claudio, but Eddie's gonna
pick up a win somewhere, probably over

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Daniel Garcia, who is gonna go
over the tournament. I think the story

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with Daniel Garcia this year has been
that he's had all of these big matches

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and these big opportunities and he's just
come up short in all of them.

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And now he's gonna wash out of
this tournament, and he's gonna have this

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existential like who am I am?
I even a wrestler kind of thing,

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and he's gonna have a big redemption
arc. And I think Daniel Garcia is

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gonna be a major star by the
end of twenty twenty four. But he's

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got to go down to the bottom
for that to happen. And so I

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think he's gonna wash out with zero
wins in this tournament. You think that

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that Daniel garcias I agree with you, is Daniel gar his redemption are going

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to be with the Don Kallis family. No, I think he's gonna do

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his own thing. I think that, Okay, I think part of it

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has been like he kind of got
lost a little bit in the Jericho appreciation

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society and now he's kind of meandering
around with two point zero and so,

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like, you know, I think
for Garcia's character, it would be better

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if he actually did not join a
group and if he actually were his own,

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you know, wrestler, and then
maybe somebody like you know, like

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he he might have kind of a
reconciliation with Jericho and maybe some one off

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tag match or something, But like
I don't see, Yeah, I don't

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see him joining the Kallous family because
I think his focus is gonna be becoming

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a wrestler, like the best wrestler
he can be, and not being Don

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Callas's pond for revenge against Kenny Omega. So interesting point. What about you,

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Benji, who are your semi finalists
and who do you think is if

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anyone is gonna end up with no
wins in this tournament or he's gonna win

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the whole thing, Benji, More
than anything, I think it's gonna I

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honestly believe that it's gonna be served
in Jay White and the semmer finals all

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the Blue team while the Golds are
right and then O the blue side is

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definitely gonna be Daniels, and I
think it's gonna be brought to king in

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that semi. On that side,
I think, I hate to say,

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I think Mark Briskow is gonna go
without a win and on that side,

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and I think I I degree in
saying that Daniel Garcia might go without a

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win. On the other side,
Kingston I think might just end up winning

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one maybe, but regardless, he's
gonna end up losing both titles. I

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think it's like people said, he's
gonna end up going down where he's just

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lost. He needs to reinvent himself. Kingston's always been better as the underdog.

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He's always put better matters as people
essentially disrespect them, don't have faith

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in them, and just basically see
him as someone that can't basically win the

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big match. And that's gonna be
coming back around with this with him losing

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the tournament, losing both titles and
essentially putting him back in a place where

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when it came down to push and
show, he just couldn't hack it.

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And then on the other side,
I think j Whye makes a comeback.

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I honestly think that Jay wise where
semi final will be the best thing for

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the tournament. Well, I would
love to see Maxley there, but I

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think Moxley can't be the guy that
everybody just depends on whenever aw is in

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trouble. That Maxley is the guy
that's gonna bring us out of trouble.

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And I think that's the big thing
that people see is that, Okay,

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well, who can you depend on
is Moxley. So that's why I feel

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like Moxley's gonna be the one essentially
putting swoarover he's gonna end up putting Jay

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White over and so then semi finals
on the tournament. I would love to

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swear win it all, but I
think he has a better chance of becoming

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a even a bigger start by Jays
going after the AE Championship. So I

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think that overall the winners going to
be Daniel Bryanson with the fact that he's

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retiring, no need to actually focus
much on the Bringer Bonner Championship as opposed

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to the Japan Championship since they're not
gonna be really on TV as much.

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You know, the thing that interests
me the most about this is that we

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keep talking about Brodie King, and
that brings us into the next topic of

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conversation because Brodie King is with the
House of Black, and it seems like

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the House of Black is on a
collision course part of the pun with FTR.

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Now here's the thing. People on
social media, whether it's on Twitter

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or on our subredd at aw fan
hub Uh, they're talking about, well,

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there's three in the House of Black
and there's only two in FTR.

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So that means there's really a couple
of questions here. Who would FTR get

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to be the third or do you
think that maybe it'll just be FTR,

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you know, Cash and Dax against
Buddy and uh, Buddy and Malachi.

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I mean, maybe Brody's going to
be too busy, uh, defending his

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own championship to worry about the House
of Black trios thing. So are we

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are we going to be doing a
trios? Are we going to be doing

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a tag team? Here? The
professional? I mean, what are your

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who? If we are going to
do a trios? Who do you think

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may fit the fit in with fr
The only person I can think of right

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now, and it's it's pretty I
don't want to say it's sad, but

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just like he came back, but
they didn't really lead into anything. And

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that's Sean Spears, you know.
And I'm only saying as because I think

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someone on redd end I can't remember
which page, but they're like, oh,

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they're getting the Pinnacle back together or
something like that. But ask the

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person can think, though we know
the obvious joye is he was still here,

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it would have been filled, but
I don't. I just don't know.

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I don't see anyone else fill in
that role right now, and I

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kind of I'm glad that you asked
the question, Like would there even be

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a third man because the way Brody
Chenance go on right now, he's really

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showing a lot of work, that
good work you can do as a singles

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competitor. Like I don't know if
we kind of want to put him back

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into not saying we should take them
out of the House of Black, but

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maybe we just let that be its
own thing. Maybe it's just Malachi Black

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and Buddy Matthews against FTR. Maybe
there is no third man because I don't

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know how you. I don't know
how you bring Brody King into the fold

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after such a strong showing, and
I'm sure he's going to continue to get

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stronger. As I mentioned, he's
more likely going to be a semifinalist.

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I don't know how you bring him
into the fold with such a strong showing

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in the Continental Classic where he could
become a babyface and put him back as

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a heel. So I don't I
don't know if it even makes sense to

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p a trios right. No,
No, I agree with you. I

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mean, who's to say if perdiy
King doesn't win the Continental Classic that he

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doesn't go on to take the DNT
Championship for example, or the FTW championship.

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So I mean there's there's different avenues
even if Brody King isn't ultimately ultimately

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successful in the Continental class. Let's
go to Aki Aki. What do you

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think do you think this is going
to be a trios thing with FDR and

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a new partner or do you think
it's going to be a tag team thing?

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And if it is going to be
a trios thing, who do you

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see as Ftr's partner. I don't
know who the partner would be if it's

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trios, but if it's if it's
uh, tag teams, then that would

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be pretty cool. I guess yeah, Because I know you're a big,

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big fan of a House of Black. Do you think that this I mean,

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let's just say that the House of
Black and FTR is a tag team

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thing and House of Black wins.
Do you think this elevates them to a

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tag team championship contender, you know, for a title match? I sure

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hope. So stay same question to
you, I mean, what are you

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thinking about this? Because this is
kind of good. There's there's so many

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options here. It seems like,
yeah, I think the only thing that

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would make me lean toward this being
a trio is that Malachi specifically made the

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point to ask FTR who was going
to come out to help them, and

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like he kept making the point that
FTR had no friends, like, like,

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nobody's coming out for you. So
I feel like they're obviously setting up

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for someone. I don't know who
it would be, though, I Spears

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is a good name. I don't
know if it's the right name though,

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because I don't think. I don't
know. I mean, it would certainly

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fit. I just think I would
be a little underwhelmed by that, not

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because it's Seawan Spears, just because
I don't we haven't seen Shawn Spears a

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lot, and so it's really hard
for me to get super invested in this

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story. That's kind of getting pretty
personal pretty quick between the House of Black

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and FTR. And by the way, while we're on this topic, how

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about House of Black getting more babyface
love than FTR. Oh wow, Yeah,

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I think I think we're gonna see
FTRS start to head back more of

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a heel direction, and I think
it's the right callants. Nobody wants to

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boo the House of Black. I'm
sorry, nobody wants to boo them so

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you can make them as nasty and
as blimey and as healthy as you want.

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They're cool as hell and people don't
want to boo them. It's that

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simple. Yeah, it really is
that simple. That's a really good point

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one thing that I wanted to ask
you, Shades, and then we'll go

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on to to Benchi. Who is
team with FTR in the past? I

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know Mark Briscoe has, that's an
option maybe, but who else is teamed?

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Can anybody think of anybody else that's
team with FDR, not including the

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Pinnacle right, Yeah, I mean
their Spears has definitely teamed with them.

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I think too. I think you
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that, there was one true words
that did I think I don't know that.

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I could just be that could be
stressing affecting Oh Phil well obviously see

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him punk did. Yeah, but
that's not going to be an option thing.

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That's not that's not happening. Sorry, Well, you know, Betji,

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you know, thank you for waiting
and bring us home. Pal.

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Look, what are your what is
your take on all of this? So

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we've talked about here with the House
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House of Black kid like people have
said, you know, has been pushing

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for FTR. You know who's here
to help you. They basically told them,

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you guys are alone. No one
in the locker room loves you.

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Everybody hates you. You have no
friends. You know who's going to come

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and save you. And I know
that the picture has been out there with

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spears. But the more and more
I think about it, and the more

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that I thought about it, even
right now doing everybody talking to me with

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brody King Bean and High that he
is coming back House of Black for this

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match with FTR. The only person
that I can honestly seek coming in to

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help them with that behemit of brody
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because there's been a couple of situations
where they helped each other out, not

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necessarily by tagging together, but different
times where they've basically given each other the

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no outside of the Pinnacle, the
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them essentially turning to Warlow asking for
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is an animal by himself, and
you know, not many people can match

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up size with them. I think
Warlow is definitely the guy that can beat

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him size size and actually give him
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that he's had so at least to
me, if someone were to pay up

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with them someone on the roster,
my vote would be for Warlow. Do

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you think it's possible, Beggie that
Warlow can can't power bomb Brody King.

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He could probably do it, but
I mean decisively. I think he probably

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could with Lettle Hope from Are essentially
to do that bar bomb with all three

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of them helping him put them up, which would definitely throw an amazing pop

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at that moment. But I don't
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least not in this Trials match if
it sets up that way, because people

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like this said, you know,
people don't want to boo that was a

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black. At this point, I
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fgr essentially attacking house. The Black
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after the match maybe power Bombina for
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they they just don't care anymore.
They're dune paying by the rules. Yeah,

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you know, regardless of what anybody
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w one thing that seems readily apparent
is that they are doing a lot of

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work in the tag team division,
and there's a lot of tag teams in

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the men's tag team coming out.
I mean, and if you look at

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it with Julia Hard having a belt, Brody King realistically about to have what

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essentially to three belts, you know, I mean, he's doing well.

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A tag team title match for the
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But one thing we don't have,
and this is something that we've talked

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about before on this podcast, but
not with these podcast members, so to

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speak, is one of the arguments
is that we've seen all the time is

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that AW has too many belts,
and that's the main reason given that people

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don't want to see a women's tag
team division, I personally would like to

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see a women's tag title because it
would a give the women something more to

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do in a meaningful way, and
b because a lot of the matches that

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the women have already are either multi
women or tag team matches, So why

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not make those matches that we're putting
on anyway meaningful? So the question I

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want to ask the panel, and
we'll start with the professional, is if

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we're going to do a women's tag
title, do you really think that that's

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a good idea? Right now or
and if it is a good idea,

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I kind of want to let's limit
it to about three tag teams. Name

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some tag teams in the women's division
that you would like to see, not

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necessarily be world champion, world tag
team champions, but that would be interesting

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to watch. What do you think? Yes, I GOREE. I think

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this is such a loaded question,
and I'll give you a reason because,

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for like, since adm's existence,
and you've heard that Tony Kahin doesn't care

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about women's wrestling. It's not enough
women on the show. There's only one

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match on Guy Might and that I
can get into that topic a lot longer,

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but just to stay on topic with
this question, I think having a

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tag team or tag team championships for
women would test if AW fans will actually

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support more women's wrestling. And I
only mention that is because what I saw

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when I was in Toronto at the
Forbidden Door where once the women's match came

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on, I had not seen so
many people go to the washroom at one

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time throughout that show until that woman's
match started, and I thought that was

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disrespectful, especially given that people were
mentioning like, oh, Tony doesn't care

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about the women, but no one's
You all are supporting them the same people

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that are complaining, you're buying a
lot of merchandise. You're saying that,

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oh, she needs to give me
a reason to care, No Show,

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Show, Tony Show, Warner Brothers, Discovery that you all care about women's

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wrestling enough where there's more than one
match on Dynamite, there's more than just

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one promo, you know, like
the same person that owns AW also owns

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ROH and you have women's wrestling there, but you all aren't flocking to watch

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ROH to see a great storyline with
Athena. You all aren't watching that.

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So if you want an institute tag
team championships, I don't know if fans

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will pay attention enough for it to
be relevant. I think it's a great

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idea, but I don't think right
now a lot of fans would pay attention

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enough to where a tag team championship
is warranted and it can be relevant.

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Because we can complain about there being
so many belts in aw but I don't

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think a lot of people can name
a belt that's irrelevant. International title has

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a prestige, The TNC Championship has
retis, CBS Championship has fristige. Obviously,

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the World Championship has prestige, and
the tag team titles have prestige.

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Yeah, we can talk about ROH, but not with AW. So I'm

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very opinionated on this the professional I
will say this, and I've said it

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before. I don't feel like the
FTW Championship has any prestige whatsoever. I

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don't feel like the Trio's Championship has
any prestige whatsoever. And I think a

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women's tag title would be even better
than the Trios Championship. And frankly speaking,

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for the longest time, I was
calling the International Championship the in Consequential

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Championship because it was a one note, one trick pony that was boring to

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me. You know, now some
people will disagree with me, and I

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respect that, but we'll have to
see on that. Because if Orage Cassidy

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keeps this title and does the same
thing you did before, then I'm on

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the I'm just gonna be it's gonna
be the Inconsequential Championship. But I want

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to move on to Acky because Aki, you've been with since the very beginning,

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so you know, I mean,
you're you know your stuff. When

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it comes to a w and I
want to get your perspective on one question,

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and of course I answer to the
other questions too. Do you think

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we should have a tag title?
Ed? Do we? Also? You

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know who do you think would be
good tag teams? But one other question

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I want to ask you is oversay
the last two or three months, do

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you think AW has been getting better
with what they're doing with the AW Women's

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division or worse better? How so
what makes you say that they're better?

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Because anytime Tony Storm comes out,
or Julie Hart comes out, or whenever,

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like when uh uh newell O Nightingale
comes out, there's always a reaction.

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And right now it's also Skyblue because
she's involved with Tony Storm. Great,

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Yeah, we're gonna be talking about
that Tony storman sky Blue batch a

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little bit later. And uh,
I think for the for the titles,

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I think they should get rid of
the Trios title and then give it to

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or not give it but like a
chain or like put a women's tag division,

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because they you already have a pretty
good men's division, so having something

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that the ladies can fight for,
like a title or a tag title,

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can help them like get more experience
or something. Yeah, I mean,

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Stace, what do you think about
that? Because I know, like sometimes

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when I'm thinking about who has the
aw titles, I sometimes even forget about

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the trios titles completely because it seems
like Tony conn is forgetting about him sometimes.

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Yeah, I mean, I think
the Trio's belts are just kind of

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like the Acclaimed Vanity Championship right now, the ABC as it were. But

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as far as these women tag titles
go, here's the conundrum. It's not

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that we don't have enough quality women
to support a tag division. We do.

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It's not that adding a title belt
would create too many belts. It

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wouldn't. It's that in order to
support a tag division, the women are

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going to have to get more time
on television. Right So now, kind

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of like what the professional is saying, if Tony wants to test the viability

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of more women's wrestling, he's gonna
have to give him some of that time.

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He's gonna have to, even if
it's just on Rampage. Like I've

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been for I have for a year. I have been one behind the idea

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of completely rebranding Rampage as I would
prefer I would not prefer I would be

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okay with it being just a women's
show. Probably wouldn't. I don't think

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Tony would do that. But if
it had, if you had more women's

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segments on rampages then you had men's
segments, I think that would be fantastic.

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And so that way we can at
least create a place for these women

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to be like even if even if
it's not great to start with, right,

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the women need these opportunities to get
out there and get reps and get

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practice cutting promos and get practice being
in a weekly episodic format so they can

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learn how to be professional wrestlers on
television and so, but they can't do

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that if they're only given one match
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It's just not And they've gotten a
little bit more recently, but so

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I think the tag titles can work. The women just need the time to

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be able to do that. And
as far as teams, I think you've

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got Willow and Statlander right now as
a team. I think you've got Mercedes

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Martinez and Diamante as a team.
I think you could have when she comes

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back, even though she just had
her baby, you'd have TJ as a

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team. You know Tay Kwon,
Tay Mellow, and an A Jay.

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It's unfortunate that the Bunnies no longer
with aw because the Bunny and Penelope Ford

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would have been a great team.
So Penelope could find someone to link up

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with though, yeah, you know
plenty of women. There's plenty of potential

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teams out there. Shace. Let
me ask you a question, then we'll

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go on to Beggie. I'm gonna
Benjie the same question to you. We

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just saw on a collision what I
thought was a really good her best promo,

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and that was sky Blue. Do
you agree with that? I do

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agree with that. It was definitely
pre recorded, so which is great.

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You know that's how they start,
You start with your pre record. Tony

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Storm doesn't cut live promo, she
cuts pre tapes. Okay, not everyone

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can cut a live promo very well. But if they let them get more

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experienced to doing those pre tapes,
then yeah, maybe you could stick a

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live mic in sky Blue's hand in
six months and see what happens. But

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only if you give him a place
for that to happen. So what do

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you think, Benji? Do you
think your sky Blue cut a good promo?

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I think your promo was okay.
I mean, obviously she needs a

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lot of work on the MIC.
I mean a lot of the women don't

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get Mike time, so it's hard
for them to develop their skill. But

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giving them more time, you know, and pre recording the promos is definitely

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going to help them. I think
Skype Blue can definitely get better. But

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to answer the rest of the questions, I honestly think that they could use

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the women's texting division. There's a
lot of women on the roster that can

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team up. But like everybody else
said, they definitely need more time on

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the shows. Definitely be pushing a
women's match on every show. Really,

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there's signs where you can go shut
single women's matches, but I think having

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a single match on every show is
a good start, you know. Definitely

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having shows with multiple women matches is
going to be a great push towards that

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as well. But that's the main
thing, like everybody says, I mean,

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I believe that they have the women
roster to make a tackting division for

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the women's The belt are definitely going
to be relevant because you have a lot

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of women that can be in title
pictures right now, so having them in

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tacting title pictures makes more sense just
because of the fact that the roster is

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so big, so you have the
ability to branch out to that. For

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00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:09.920
the women's division and as far as
tag teams, I think one of the

404
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:15.720
ones that people want to see that
we were seeing prior to her getting into

405
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:21.920
with the Baker Jamie Hater team,
you know, and you know, I

406
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:27.359
think that would make a really good
team. I actually think if she were

407
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.079
to if they were actually both for
to come back, Serena Deep and then

408
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:37.680
the Rosa actually teaming as a veteran
team to show please, Oh that's so

409
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:42.359
good. I didn't even think of
that. Having them team up to show

410
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.440
the younger talent, you know,
this is what you can do, this

411
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:47.640
which you can accomplish, you know, would be a I think a great

412
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:51.319
team, a veteran team that people
can say, well, you know,

413
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:57.000
because both Serena Deep and the Rosa
can definitely put on great matches, and

414
00:33:57.079 --> 00:34:00.559
teaming them up I think would be
a great point of view into showing the

415
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:07.400
women's division and attacking division that's going
to be strong. Jamie Hayter and Britt

416
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:12.079
Baker have always had chemistry in the
ring, so I think that's also going

417
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:15.480
to be something that can shine for
the women's division as a tag team.

418
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:22.679
Mercedes and Diamante and again another two
people that have been teaming up lately and

419
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:28.320
can show that they can team up
and have a good team. If I

420
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:32.679
were to put up some of the
younger women together with everything that's been going

421
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:38.679
on, I would say Julia Hart
and Sky Blue as teaming together with everything

422
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:43.519
as far as the story arc there's
been going on, is she turning turning?

423
00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:47.320
Is she going a separate way?
You know, if they do continue

424
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:52.880
to story arc, and then like
it was mentioned, also Willow and Statlander

425
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:55.960
also teaming up. So you know, you have a lot of women that

426
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:01.079
aren't in title pictures outside of Julia
a heart that can actually team up together

427
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:06.880
and show a strong women techtic division, not just teams that you're pulllling out

428
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:09.800
at the nerve because a lot of
these women's have had tag matches together already.

429
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:15.960
Right, you know, let's go
right into our diet of my preview.

430
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:19.280
Let's stick with the women's division.
Let's let's just skip right to that.

431
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:23.599
We've got a World Women's World Championship
match, Tony Storm versus Sky Blue.

432
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:27.519
Now I don't know what the rest
of you think, but I really

433
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:31.000
am shuddering at the thought of sky
Blue eating a pin. You know,

434
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:37.400
I want to see some story here, and there's ample opportunity were story here.

435
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:40.920
We've got Mariah May, who is
the super fan of Tony Storm or

436
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:46.880
is she? You know's There's been
some facial expressions and things like that.

437
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:52.760
The Mariah May is maybe not exactly
what she seems. And then with sky

438
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:58.280
Blue that you have Julia Hart also, is there a possibility that during this

439
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:02.480
match we see just all whole bunch
of something going on? What do you

440
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:13.679
think the professional Yeah, it's tough
because Tony Storm obviously needs a challenger and

441
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:22.239
sky Blue is there. But I
don't think we've seen conclusion to sky Blue

442
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:28.719
story with Julia Hart. You know, maybe she gets involved bad way.

443
00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:32.800
I really don't like like the I
guess having someone get involved in a match,

444
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:36.960
you know, to like a distraction
finish. I think it's a little

445
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:44.639
too sports entertainment. But to your
point, having heard just lose this match,

446
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:46.920
it's kind of gonna suck. But
I mean, she she has to

447
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:52.280
eat the pin here, But I'm
interested to see how creative they get with

448
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:59.599
her loss. That's that's why I'm
looking forward to, like what what story

449
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:01.519
she is she going to have,
you know, after this loss, Like

450
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:07.719
where is her direction is going to
Also with Mariah May, like how is

451
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.280
she going to factor into this match? You know? So I'm interested in

452
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:17.400
those two storylines or those two future
stories, but I just don't I just

453
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:22.400
don't. Again, I don't like
the distraction finish. So that's why I

454
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.639
just have a lot of interest in
just the future of those stories because obviously

455
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:30.760
she's gonna lose, but I just
want to know what happens after this loss.

456
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:35.519
Yeah, I mean, I'm with
you on that. Aki. Do

457
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:39.119
you think that there's a I mean, I don't think anybody here think this

458
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:44.199
was a chance that sky Blue is
going to walk away with the aw Woman's

459
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:49.679
World Championship. So would you be
satisfied with just a you know, ten

460
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.639
minute, nothing happens match or do
you want to see something happen during this

461
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:59.199
match with Mariah May, Julie Hard
or something else getting involved. I honestly

462
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:05.320
think that Mariah or I think mostly
Julia Hart is going to get involved because,

463
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:13.920
uh, the last I think collision
when Abadon won, Julia Hart came

464
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:19.480
out, and I think what Julia
is going to try and do is like

465
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:24.320
pick up anyone that like she can, and I hope that one of them

466
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:32.119
is Julie or sky Blue, and
maybe Mariah May might come out if,

467
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:38.119
like, if sky Blue is beating
her and Mariah May comes out to save

468
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:47.159
uhh uh Tony Storm a loss or
something. But I hope that something storyline

469
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:54.079
driven comes out of this. I
agree, what about you Age, where

470
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:59.039
are you on this? Because I'm
really confused that this is just a squash

471
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:05.840
match, glorified squash match at least, I just don't see why. Yeah,

472
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:07.800
I mean, it's one thing to
say that sky Blue is eating a

473
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:10.400
lot of pins. She can eat
one more like. I don't think it'd

474
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:15.440
be the worst thing in the world, but I do want to see something

475
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:19.039
a little bit more than just a
ten minute match where sky Blue eats a

476
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:23.039
pin. I think for my I
think what's most likely going to happen is

477
00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:27.159
you might see someone like Mariah May
try to get involved and it looks like

478
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:34.039
she's trying to help Tony, but
her quote unquote help is not helpful at

479
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:36.360
all, And then you start to
wonder whill is she doing? That on

480
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:42.079
purpose right and now, and so
I think that Mariah may looks like she's

481
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:45.159
trying to help, but she's actually
not helping. But maybe she's doing that

482
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:53.079
on purpose. Is kind of the
story here. I think Julia is gonna

483
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:58.599
leave Sky alone just for a little
bit, and then it's going to reappear

484
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:04.599
at some point l her down the
road to come and collect a sort of

485
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:10.719
her claim on Sky At this point
about let me ask let me ask you

486
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:15.880
a question real quick. Shades though, because we saw Julia Julia Hart spit

487
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:22.519
the mist into sky Blue's face,
sky Blue's eye makeup similar to what happened

488
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:29.440
with Julia Hart kind of spread,
but now it's kind of like Julia Hart's

489
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:34.880
makeup now when she when Julia Hart
was in The Cheerleader aspect of her of

490
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:39.760
her gimmick, her eye makeup was
not nearly as pronounced as it is now,

491
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:46.000
you know, so her same thing
with sky Blue or sky sky Blues

492
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:51.840
got a more pronounced makeup, but
it's not like the eye rot anymore.

493
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:55.599
Do you think that she's already turned
into she's playing people? You know?

494
00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:00.039
Is that the is that what's going
on with the character right now? I

495
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.760
think there's room for that if that's
the way they want to go. I

496
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:14.119
think I think obviously sky is not
free of Giant Julia's influence. I think

497
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:20.159
that's obvious how that plays out.
There's there's there's many different ways you could

498
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:25.039
go, so it's hard to predict. Another question that this is a stupid

499
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:29.800
question. I fully admit that this
is a stupid question. If I haven't

500
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:32.119
gone back and looked at Collision yet, was Sky Blue when she cut that

501
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:37.320
promo? Backstage she was in her
wrestling gear? Was she in her Scooby

502
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:42.119
Doobie blue gear? Was she back
at into a blue gear? I can't

503
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:46.920
remember. I think she was.
I don't think she'd wear her Scooby Let's

504
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:52.719
not let's not get too I just
think it's funny. But Benji, who

505
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:55.119
do you think is gonna, uh, what do you think is gonna happen

506
00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:58.519
with this Sky Blue match? To
a you think we're gonna get ten minute

507
00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:02.079
match with nothing? Or what do
you think might something might happen? So

508
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:07.360
I think May is gonna have an
integral part in this match. I think

509
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:13.199
the build up is essentially going to
be a May versus Tony Storm type of

510
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:17.159
match. She's she's coming in as
a super fan. At some point,

511
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:22.360
you know, it's gonna get to
a point to where May is getting involved

512
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:24.840
in the matches. I think she's
gonna get involved in this one. But

513
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:30.960
the main thing is at some point
Tony Storm is going to be ungrateful for

514
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:36.679
what May has done for her,
essentially causing May to turn on her.

515
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:39.480
I think that's at least me,
that would the story or that I would

516
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:47.480
go with with those two. I
think that judio Hart might not make appearance

517
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:51.719
at this point. You know,
I think she definitely will make an appearance

518
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:59.360
at some point. It just depends
on who's the contender for the for that

519
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:06.280
TB a title to challenge Julia.
I think when Julie, when sky Blew

520
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:12.400
is a turning or essentially becoming part
of Julia and House Black, will be

521
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:21.960
in a title defense where skuy Blue
essentially helps Julia retain that title, essentially

522
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:24.639
showing that she's just like someone said, you know, she's been playing everybody

523
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:29.360
along. You know, she's been
there is just that she just wants to

524
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:32.800
portray something else and make people believe
in her. But I think that's what's

525
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:37.960
gonna happen in that side. But
I honestly think that that May is gonna

526
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:39.800
make a make cause of part in
this match. I think it will be

527
00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:50.039
a good match, but it's gonna
build up towards a few I agree with

528
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:52.519
you, and I wouldn't be surprised
if Mariah May at some point just utters

529
00:43:52.559 --> 00:44:00.679
these classic words, never meet your
heroes. It's a hipple is that?

530
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:02.920
Let's move on? Gosh? What
do I want to talk about next?

531
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:08.639
We're going to do a couple more
Dynamite previews here. Let's talk about well,

532
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:12.760
gosh, it's really hard to pick. I want to say I'm going

533
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:17.079
to save the Copeland and Cage match
for last. Let's talk about MJF and

534
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:22.920
Samoa Joe against the Devil's goons.
Most people seem to think that they figured

535
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:27.880
out who the goons are, you
know, most people were saying it's the

536
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:36.039
Kingdom basically. But do you think
the Devil may reveal himself and tomorrow night?

537
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:39.000
I kind of don't. But if
not, you know when, when

538
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:44.920
when do we think the Devil should
reveal himself? Because if it drags on

539
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:46.840
too long, do you think people
are going to lose interest in the Devil?

540
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:54.320
The professional? What do you think
about that. Yeah, I think

541
00:44:54.360 --> 00:45:00.639
the goons are going to be the
Kingdom. I thought that the Kingdom involved

542
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:07.880
since we started this entire story with
the Devil. To answer your other question,

543
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:10.039
I think that the reveal of the
Devil is not going to happen to

544
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:14.360
worlds In. I've always thought that, like, well not, Actually,

545
00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:16.880
I take that back. I didn't
always think that. I thought originally it

546
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:23.239
was gonna happen like during the Dynamite
in Montreal. I just thought like it

547
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:27.800
was always gonna be like some kind
of flaky finish to get the title off

548
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:32.119
of MJF aligning with the whole Gidding
War for twenty twenty four, thing like

549
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:37.159
that. But once they introduced this
new pay per view World's In, that's

550
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:43.039
when my thinking changed to the reveal
of the Devil being at World's Inn,

551
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:45.800
just keeping up with the namesake.
It's, you know, World's In.

552
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:52.639
Maybe it's the end of jf's world
especially as champion. As world Champion,

553
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:57.159
so I think that's when they're going
to reveal who the Devil was. In

554
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:00.239
my opinion, I think it's Adam
Cole, But I'm just interested to see

555
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:07.719
how they work this with his legit
ankle injury. But that's when I think

556
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:09.480
that they'll do the reveal of the
Devil. It will be at the World's

557
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:14.320
End pay re view. Yeah good. I'm glad you said to who you

558
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:19.599
think the devil is, because most
of the panel here we've never actually asked

559
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:22.519
them who the devil they thought the
devil was, so the professional things the

560
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:25.679
devil is Adam Cole. So let's
move on to ship. Let's move on

561
00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:29.840
to Aki. I know, Aki, you said who you think the devil

562
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:34.199
is before? But have you changed
your mind? Because each week it seems

563
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:38.159
like somebody is getting eliminated and eliminated. But more importantly this match, do

564
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:42.599
you think that the Kingdom is the
goons? And what do you think the

565
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:46.480
Devil's going to relieve, you know, reveal themselves. You know, when

566
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:52.960
people were criticizing the Kingdom, mostly
Keilson, I always thought that maybe they

567
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:58.719
should know what are you talking about? I did. I thought that they

568
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:02.199
should be like cult leaders, not
to the point of like join the Dark

569
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:08.360
Order type of cult leaders, but
more like I don't know, Heaven's Gate,

570
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:16.320
but like I think that them being
the goons would work pretty good because

571
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:21.400
it might not be like cultish,
but you know, it could work because

572
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:25.280
they aren't really doing anything and that
could be a pretty cool twist. Who

573
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:35.559
I think the Devil is? Hmm, you don't know. Okay, Well

574
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:38.960
let's look at it this way.
Let's see what Shades has to say,

575
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:42.400
because Shades, I don't think you
and I have ever talked about this.

576
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:45.119
Who do you think the Devil is? And I have a little bit of

577
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:50.480
a follow up question, you know, with about that, with do you

578
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:54.280
think that the Goons are the Kingdom? And uh what else? What do

579
00:47:54.280 --> 00:48:01.360
you when's the prime time for the
devil to reveal himself or herself? Well,

580
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:05.079
first of all, I don't think
the Goons are getting revealed tomorrow because

581
00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:07.960
we still have a little more time
before World's End. And I don't think

582
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:13.119
the Goons are gonna get revealed until
like really close to the show, and

583
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:19.440
so I think they'll try and then
they'll get away. I think the Devil

584
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:24.800
is Adam Cole primarily. However,
I think it probably will come out at

585
00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:29.920
some point that there's been there's been
multiple devils. I think that's you know,

586
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:34.199
kind of like this whole Scream situation. But ultimately Adam Cole is the

587
00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:39.480
one orchestrating it along with the help
of the Kingdom and Roderick Strong and Wardlow.

588
00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:44.760
I think you think it's pretty obvious
Wardlow is one of the goons.

589
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:47.760
There was a big dude out there
last week, and then Wardlow came out

590
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:51.519
for his next match and his hair
was all messed up from the mask.

591
00:48:51.719 --> 00:49:00.360
So I think Kyler Riley is another
one of the potential goons. But I

592
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:04.039
don't think we'll learn anything new tomorrow. But you don't think that Kyle O'Reilly

593
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:07.360
is the devil? You think he's
a goon? Right, Well, no,

594
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.920
because I don't Kyle doesn't have main
villain kind of energy to me.

595
00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:19.119
Okay, fair enough, Benji.
What about you? Who do you think

596
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:22.920
the devil is? Do you think
we'll get any reveals tomorrow? What do

597
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:23.480
you think? How do you think
this is gonna go down? When do

598
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:28.679
you think what devil will be revealed? I don't think there's there's gonna be

599
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:32.320
a reveal tomorrow. I do think
the Coons take the titles for Ring of

600
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:40.119
Honor. It starts the down spiral
for MJF, you know, based on

601
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:43.599
the fact. Also, he's kind
of injured, so I think he's gonna

602
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:46.000
need some time off as well.
But you know, I do believe that

603
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:50.599
it's Adam Cole. I've always I
felt that it's from the beginning that is

604
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:57.920
Adam Cole. I think if he
is legitimately injured, Kyle O'Reilly and I'm

605
00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:01.880
Adam the strongest essentially playing the world
of the Devil. In the meantime,

606
00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:08.039
the Kingdom is definitely part of the
Goons. It might be Warlow as well

607
00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:12.360
as one of as one of the
Goons, but I think overall all this

608
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:16.519
is the plan of Adam Cole.
You know, it's that whole long term

609
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:21.599
storytelling, you know, where everything
seemed to be fun part at the beginning

610
00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:27.079
between that tag team with them.
You know, I can't remember who said,

611
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:29.719
well, I think it was that
was that it was basically going to

612
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:34.639
come after everything that I'm JF loved, which is basically taking out any and

613
00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:37.599
offerings that he's had that can help
him out with any kind of match,

614
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:40.480
which is why some Moore Joe had
to step in the attack match. But

615
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:45.800
at the end of the day,
you know, at world's end, I

616
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:52.480
think Adam Cole to be at the
corner WARMJF. You know, and somehow

617
00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:57.960
something happens, the devil appears,
you know, costs MGF the title against

618
00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:01.960
some more Joe and then this revealed
that it was Adam Cole behind it all

619
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:13.280
at that point, essentially putting MJF
in a position where he's back ass as

620
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:16.440
a person he was before, which
where he trusts no one, doesn't believe

621
00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:22.440
in anyone. It's only him against
the world and making that that return and

622
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:29.199
that comeback to come after the world
title against one point, maybe later in

623
00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:34.079
the year next year, so we
can see a difference in championships and champions

624
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:37.199
between that time. But I think
it's at the call behind it all,

625
00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:44.800
and honestly it wouldn't shock me,
but I think it would be a big

626
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:49.360
pop, you know, just having
them real costing them the title and just

627
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:52.360
basically telling them that they told him
that that we're going to take everything that

628
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:57.280
he cared in love and by taking
his friendship with that goal, taking his

629
00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:01.119
friendships with the acclaim everybody and taking
the one thing that he cherishes them all,

630
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:08.000
which is the belt. Yeah,
you know, I didn't express my

631
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:12.840
opinion on this, but I'm going
to express my opinion on this now.

632
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:21.679
Benjie, You're absolutely right that whoever
the devil is, well, practically everybody

633
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:29.760
is trying to take what MGF loves
the most away from from MGF. He

634
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:34.199
loves the belt. He's been going
on TV lately saying that he loves aw,

635
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:38.679
he loves Adam Cole, you know, and everything has been taken away

636
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:43.360
from him. Who has the power
other than Adam Cole, who has the

637
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:46.880
power to take the belt away from
a from MGF, and who has the

638
00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:52.199
power to over mgf's contract, and
who has the power to do things that

639
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:58.039
only the true devil can do,
and that's Tony Kahn. I said from

640
00:52:58.039 --> 00:53:01.000
the beginning that I really do believe
that would be really interesting twist to have

641
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:06.119
Tony Kanna as the devil. Now, if it wasn't the devil, and

642
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:10.079
this is completely out there, you
guys are going to probably just grown at

643
00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:15.679
this. But during the early days
of the Devil, we had people on

644
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:21.760
this podcast that were insistent that CM
Punk was the devil. Well, that's

645
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:25.320
obviously been thrown out the window.
It's not cmpunk. He's no longer with

646
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:30.440
the companies, with another company now. Also, you got to keep in

647
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:34.280
mind that the devil that we see
on screen doesn't necessarily have to be the

648
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:37.320
devil that's presented to us in the
end. If he is ever presented to

649
00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:43.519
us in the end, wouldn't it
be it be a hoot If the devil

650
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:47.800
is revealed to be Cult Cabana,
that would be just to be just be

651
00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:53.400
fitting. That's way out there,
And honestly, I've never heard anybody mentioned

652
00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:58.760
col Cobana's name, and that's why
I brought it up, because nobody has

653
00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:02.440
ever mentioned his name. Let's move
on because that's ridiculous. Sorry, I

654
00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:07.440
put you through that. Let's move
on to the final match that we're going

655
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:12.760
to talk about, and this one
kind of I'm thinking about this kind of

656
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:15.679
like the Tony Storm and sky Blue
match. I mean, what are we

657
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:25.559
going to do here? We've got
Adam Copeland versus Christian Cage. This seems

658
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:30.840
like a perfect match to get resolved
on a world's end to me, not

659
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:39.440
on a dynamite in Montreal A chance? He well, was that shades?

660
00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:44.400
I didn't didn't quite hear you.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was

661
00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:53.639
unmuted. Never mind, I'm so
sorry. That's fine, But the professional

662
00:54:53.679 --> 00:55:00.199
do you think that this feud is
going to have this match is gonna have

663
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:05.239
a clear winner tomorrow night? And
if so, who wins And how's it

664
00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:10.440
gonna happen. Yeah, I don't
know about like a clear winner. Like

665
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:15.840
I'm actually surprised they're doing it so
soon. I get it. They're they're

666
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:22.880
trying to move tickets in Montreal.
But I think Christian Cage is gonna win

667
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:28.039
the match. I don't see this. They ingest their only singles match in

668
00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:31.800
a w I just I couldnt see
that. Uh, maybe they have a

669
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:37.360
rematch, you know, at a
like Revolution, But I mean I don't

670
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:40.599
have to drive it out for a
few months. But I think Christian Cage

671
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:49.719
wins it. Uh, maybe it's
with the help of Nick Nick Nick Wayne's

672
00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:58.039
mom. Yeah yeah, maybe it's
this mom that helps out, you know,

673
00:55:58.239 --> 00:56:02.280
sort of like a like the finish
to that match Christian had against Jericho

674
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:08.840
WrestleMania twenty, you know where Tris
turned on Jericho. You know, that's

675
00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:13.880
where I foresee that kind of story
indnet, And maybe that's what happens in

676
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:17.639
Canada. Maybe we get a screwdrop
finished in this match, just no no

677
00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:22.719
rest. But like maybe it's Nick
Wayne's mom that helps out, you know,

678
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:28.679
because she's got it going on.
That's what I see. I don't,

679
00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:30.400
like I said, like I said
before, I don't see a decisive

680
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:36.679
I mean, a clear winner without
like some shenanigans. And I do see

681
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:38.960
like another match happening between the two, but just I don't think it's gonna

682
00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:46.239
be anytime soon. But yeah,
that's that's what I got. So do

683
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:50.039
you think that there's gonna be a
clear winner in this match? And I

684
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:52.239
mean the professional just brought it up, but I kind of thought the same

685
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:58.119
thing. Do you think that Nick
Wayne's mob mom is the wild card here?

686
00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:01.239
She the joker? Probably? But
I want Adam Copeland to win.

687
00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:05.519
Well, of course everybody wants Adam
Copland to win. We don't. We

688
00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:08.800
don't want the father to hear a
win. Yeah, but like if if

689
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:14.280
Christian wins, I think it's going
to be like a one win for him,

690
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:19.800
one win for Adam and then them
to a world's end or maybe no

691
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:27.159
world's end. But like somewhere someware
not the professional said revolution gosh shades.

692
00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:30.639
I mean, do you think that
this is just a vehicle to set up

693
00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:32.440
a future match? Because do you
really think that we're going to get any

694
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:38.719
kind of you know, not even
total resolution, but some resolution tomorrow.

695
00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:44.360
I don't think there's a shot in
hell of this match which actually happens.

696
00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:49.239
This is yeah, it's not a
dying mind, it's not this is a

697
00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:52.880
pay per view match. Now they've
booked this match, but I for see

698
00:57:53.119 --> 00:58:00.599
thee a situation where you have if
you remember, there was this big story

699
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:09.960
in old WWF where Mister Perfect was
gonna fight Priple Age and it was just

700
00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:14.719
gonna it was this huge match.
It was something you see on wrong and

701
00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:20.360
right before that match, mister Perfect
is attacked in the back and they have

702
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:22.960
to card him off to the hospital
and so the match doesn't happen, and

703
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:30.159
I could see something where he'll switch
and Nick Wayne, you know, besides

704
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:36.800
attack Adam Copley in the back back
before this match starts, so that he

705
00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:40.280
can't compete and they eventually meet at
World's End, but you know, it

706
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:45.039
might be something they give Adam a
concussion or something a fabe concussion, or

707
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:49.039
he has to be up for two
weeks, and so now we have more

708
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:51.840
build to this match because you just
this is you just you can't give this

709
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:54.360
away on every television. You can't
do it. I think it would be

710
00:58:54.440 --> 00:59:00.760
it'd be very I question that the
decision if they go ahead and decide to

711
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:05.920
have this match and then you have
another match. I mean, this is

712
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:08.480
this is something you build to.
This isn't how you start the feud,

713
00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:13.960
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, well, the physical feud really hasn't

714
00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:16.679
started yet because other than you know, kicking each other in the crotch,

715
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:22.199
there's really not been a whole lot
of interaction physically between Copeland and Cage yet.

716
00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:25.639
And frankly, I agree with you. I don't really believe that the

717
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:32.519
very first physical match that she should
have official match should be on a dynamite

718
00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:37.280
in Montreal. I just don't think
it's nothing against Montreal. I can say

719
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:39.960
a dynamite Connecticut or a dynamite in
Washington, d C. Wherever. I

720
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:44.679
just don't think it's a dynamite match
that people would pay the seat, And

721
00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:46.599
so why would you not put it
on pay per view? That's kind of

722
00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:54.239
mine exactly. Well, unfortunately Benji
has uh had to go and so we're

723
00:59:54.679 --> 01:00:00.159
so we're going to go to our
spicy predictions such now that this is something

724
01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:05.400
that we do. Uh, you
can talk about a spicy prediction about a

725
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:08.400
match we've already talked about on or
something else you want to talk about for

726
01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:15.519
Dynamite, could be for Collision,
it could be just an outrageous storyline prediction,

727
01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:20.079
whatever you want to be. So
I'm going to put the professional on

728
01:00:20.119 --> 01:00:22.199
the spot. What's a spicy prediction
do you have for us this week?

729
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:27.960
Yeah? For for this week,
I would probably just go and what I

730
01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:34.519
mentioned before with the screwjob finish,
Like, I think there's a lot of

731
01:00:35.159 --> 01:00:40.599
meat there and I totally overlooked worlds
in with this dude, but I just

732
01:00:40.599 --> 01:00:45.000
don't I don't think that this is
just a one match thing, but that

733
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:50.159
that's that's the spicy I guess prediction
that I got, Like, there will

734
01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:52.519
be a screwjob finish there there.
They're kind of almost has to be.

735
01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:59.280
But yeah, that's what I'm going
with. What about you, Auki,

736
01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:02.639
do you have anything spicy for us
for this week? Nick Wayne is going

737
01:01:02.719 --> 01:01:08.400
to take the TNC title. Nick
Wayne is going to take the T and

738
01:01:08.440 --> 01:01:12.920
T title even though he's not in
the match. No, No, I

739
01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:17.480
meant not tomorrow. I meant like
in general, whenever we get to that

740
01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:25.079
point. Yeah, building toward Nick
Wayne winning the title from Christian or maybe

741
01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:30.880
even Adam. I mean it could
work either way. Good that if Chris,

742
01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:34.920
if Dick Wade wins, that Christian
gets jealous and sends Nick Wayn into

743
01:01:34.920 --> 01:01:40.280
his room. M Chades, do
you have a spicy prediction for us?

744
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:46.440
I do? I think is going
to beat John Moxley Clean. Rush is

745
01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:52.760
going to beat John Moxley Clean.
That is spicy. The mill Ry Wow.

746
01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:59.000
I would have never even thought of
that, not even close, because

747
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:04.360
I don't think Moxley's can out of
this league. I think for a lot

748
01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:07.239
of the reasons that we're talking about
earlier, like it's great that Max has

749
01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:12.480
been there for a w and when, but we need to develop new people

750
01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:21.639
who can be also that and so
mox can't come out of the semis on

751
01:02:21.639 --> 01:02:23.559
this tournament. So one of the
ways you do that is by having Rush

752
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:29.760
sheet and clean, and you give
Rooshia Rubb and maybe you start to send

753
01:02:29.760 --> 01:02:36.239
Moxley toward that vacation he deserves.
Well. My spice prediction has to do

754
01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:38.519
with the ultimate underdog story. And
I kind of still think that this is

755
01:02:38.559 --> 01:02:43.760
gonna happen. I I just can't
get it out of my mind. I

756
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:46.679
think Eddie Kingston is going to run
the table and he's going to reach the

757
01:02:46.760 --> 01:02:52.719
semi finals in this in this UH, in this tournament, I really do

758
01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:58.079
believe that. I I just don't. I don't see the reason for him

759
01:02:58.159 --> 01:03:00.800
to lose out. I mean,
I know that a lot of you guys

760
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:05.239
and I and I'm not disagreeing with
you, but I'm just being spicy here.

761
01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:08.159
I know some of you guys have
said that he's gonna go over in

762
01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:13.559
this tournament, and I can see
that happening. For something in the back

763
01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:15.960
of my mind is saying that he's
going to win out and he's gonna sneak

764
01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:21.719
his way into the tournament because it's
going to come down to either Eddie Kingston

765
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:24.880
or somebody else winning the tournament.
And at that point, that's when the

766
01:03:25.039 --> 01:03:30.280
draw happens, and with those with
two wrestlers getting one point, it puts

767
01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:36.360
them behind Eddie Eddie Kingston, and
Eddie Kingston wins wins, that steaks into

768
01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:43.440
the UH into the semi finals.
That's my spicy prediction, and that,

769
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:47.280
my friends, is ignition. I'd
like to thank Benji Shades, the Vibe,

770
01:03:47.480 --> 01:03:52.400
the Professional and of course Aki for
joining us tonight. We'll be back

771
01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:57.960
tomorrow night for All the Talk.
Right after Dynamite, be sure to join

772
01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:01.800
us on aw fanom for a lot
chat during Dynamite. We want to hear

773
01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:04.760
what you want to say, and
we will use what you say tomorrow night

774
01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:10.119
as a guide basically for what we're
going to talk about. A part of

775
01:04:10.119 --> 01:04:13.719
it, A part of what we
talk about tomorrow night on All We Talk.

776
01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:16.800
This is Kelson. Good night everybody.