WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:04.839 What taste? Welcome and welcome to what good question? A podcast with many 2 00:00:04.919 --> 00:00:09.560 questions and many answers. Luis my Salgado and his guests share questions and answers 3 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:13.000 about life, love, passion and the challenges of living a passionate life. 4 00:00:14.560 --> 00:00:19.039 What a good question a podcast to learn that life can live better once again. 5 00:00:19.920 --> 00:00:25.120 Welcome all with you and to introduce our guests we leave you with Luis 6 00:00:25.120 --> 00:00:29.800 miss Algado Hello how about, what a welcome taste I am Luis Miguel Salgado. 7 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:33.000 For me it is a procer and a privilege to accompany us today in 8 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:37.039 a new chapter of what a good question today I have a woman is truly 9 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:42.799 a jewel. Let' s talk to her. A lot of things. 10 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:48.119 She is a dedicated, focused, willing working woman, She is a woman 11 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:53.359 with a great heart and that will allow us to know a little better about 12 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:58.320 the life of Vanesa Garfias, Vana and welcome. How are you my dear, 13 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:02.399 Luis, Very well, thank you very much, Thank you, on 14 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:07.879 the contrary, very honored to be here today on your podcast and to talk 15 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:11.719 about everything a little bit. Thank you, welcome. Let me introduce Vanessa 16 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:15.680 Garfias to you please as she deserves. She' s a law graduate. 17 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:21.879 She is a graduate of the Universidad Autónoma de Querétaro, where she also studied 18 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:27.799 the specialty in Notarial Law and currently holds a master' s degree in Government 19 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:33.239 and public policies. He has a professional career for more than ten years in 20 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:38.799 matters of notarial and fiscal real estate law and has served as a tenured lawyer 21 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:45.079 in different public notaries of the State of Querétaro. She is the Director General 22 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:52.680 of Enterprise GIANNEM, Corporate Legal and is currently president and founder of the National 23 00:01:52.840 --> 00:02:00.400 Network of Women Parity Defenders throughout Querétaro' s chapter. She, the NEA, 24 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:05.959 was a citizen candidate for the municipal presidency of Querétaro by the Democratic Revolution 25 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:12.759 Party, the PRD here in Mexico. She was currently appointed as National Assistant 26 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:19.960 Secretary for Left Youth and for her being a citizen candidate represented a double commitment, 27 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:23.599 considering that the youth, but especially the women, have the challenge of 28 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:30.759 reconciling the citizens with politics and getting involved in the issues of ours, that 29 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:35.599 our country needs vanese is with us and if it is okay with them, 30 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:38.520 as I always say to them, if it is okay with them, we 31 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:43.639 start hello how much miguel are taken out and I understood to believe, grow, 32 00:02:43.719 --> 00:02:46.479 learn, live, be free, we have to constantly ask ourselves the 33 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:53.319 ok el, how and when there is and even the ICN I love to 34 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:55.120 ask questions. It has become a fortress and an opportunity to live, literally 35 00:02:55.120 --> 00:03:00.599 in a blessing. Asking the questions at the right time is an art to 36 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:06.599 listen to the answers and their intention gives you wisdom if you apply the answer. 37 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:08.919 I believe that the solution of the problems comes in the quality of the 38 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:13.319 question. This space is based on what has been lived, on the learned 39 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:16.520 ones, I have built it and in what has been built again goes with 40 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:22.439 my guests interesting people, intelligent and, moreover, admirable in all aspects. 41 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:25.719 It goes as a personal and professional challenge, It goes like a whim and 42 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:30.360 a taste of life, but it also goes to positively impact those who listen 43 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:35.280 to it and apply it this space, my space, your space is going 44 00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:36.400 to accompany us and be part of this full adventure. You have interesting, 45 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:40.159 fun, disruptive, predictable, unpredictable, intelligent, casual questions and are best 46 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:45.479 welcome. This is what a good question I am Luis Miguel Algado and if 47 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:50.919 that' s okay with you, we start. It' s a real 48 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:54.719 pleasure for me to have a woman all the more admirable and as is the 49 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:59.439 case with Vanessa Garfias, and I love everything you do, everything you' 50 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:00.960 ve done and everything you' re going to do. My dear is fine, 51 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:04.759 but before anything else, this is the first question that I force all 52 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:11.479 my guests, taking away the medals, the titles, everything you' ve 53 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:16.040 done, I' d love to know who that Garfias is. Welcome, 54 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:23.079 well, first of all to my dear Luis. I thank you again for 55 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:27.040 the space, for being here with all your audience and so, well, 56 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:30.199 who' s going with that Garfias. You' ve read a little bit 57 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:38.360 of my face practically, because she' s a mom woman, because now 58 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:42.079 a year ago and I became a mom, and the truth is that my 59 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:46.439 world was completely transformed. But I think that everything that is behind this woman 60 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:51.600 who today is talking and chatting with you and your audience, because it is 61 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:59.519 more the theme to show, to show who is vain behind all this work 62 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:02.879 that we have created over the years. And so, well, the truth 63 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:09.000 is, I really like to say that I always consider myself an ally of 64 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:15.480 women, someone who defends causes, especially a social fighter, who I have 65 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:20.040 always led and, of course, I say lawyer at the end of the 66 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:24.879 profession, that that is very important. We know that the social issue, 67 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:30.720 because it has always persisted in me and I think that now a lot more 68 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:35.839 when you first decide to be a lawyer, what leads you to be a 69 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:41.759 lawyer and what leads you to get into politics, because, obviously, because 70 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:47.480 we are in a country that today, we need coherent politicians, dedicated to 71 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:53.399 have a passion for Mexico, but not anyone, that is, there are 72 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:56.879 people who are dedicated to music, others are dedicated to being poets, others 73 00:05:56.920 --> 00:06:01.240 are dedicated to being accountants. When you connect with the lawyer and then jump 74 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:08.920 to the political issue, because it is something very important, notice that since 75 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:15.560 Chica always brought like the seed of therefore, to help people, to help 76 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:18.879 others, like that the social issue has always been impregnated in my adn since 77 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:27.439 very small. I remember that I had always liked the social theme, the 78 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:31.920 collaboration with people, with colleagues, and well that over the years, as 79 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:39.839 the topic of high school progressed. But I think that, especially in high 80 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:47.120 school, it was more the meaning of wanting to focus on the social issue. 81 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:50.680 Why, because in the end, then comes the changes. I don 82 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:56.279 ' t remember much that for me the subject of the prepa and I suffered 83 00:06:56.399 --> 00:07:02.879 a very important shock, good at coming from a very Catholic family and when 84 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:10.079 you enter this important part of carrying materials out of what had been instilled in 85 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:14.160 you all your childhood for many years, it was a great impact on my 86 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:18.399 life. But I think I also knew what one thing is and what another 87 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:24.519 is, and that you also have to learn to have the good and also 88 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:29.399 to throw away all the bad. And I think that when I get in 89 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:34.319 and the high school part is where I decide to be a lawyer, I 90 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:36.959 really moved the subject and the sensitivity. Yeah, maybe the political issue, 91 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:42.800 but I saw more of the question of being a criminal lawyer. I remember 92 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:47.079 very much that I came into the university with that feeling of being the best 93 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:51.399 criminalist in the world. And when I come in, well or surprise, 94 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:56.959 no, the truth is that today I can tell you that litigating wasn' 95 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:01.279 t my passion, it wasn' t the guts to do it. And 96 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:07.759 so practically life is putting you inside where you really fit in. In this 97 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:11.160 part of the legal profession, I began to develop more in one topic, 98 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:18.000 within the real estate sector, within the notarial sector and because it changed my 99 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:24.360 perspective. Even ten years ago I had my first political experience, which I 100 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:30.120 always remember, because it' s not the same ten years ago as now. 101 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:35.000 Ten years ago, even when I had my first political contact, I 102 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:41.960 decided to leave politics for a disenchantment, for a personal question that I didn 103 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:46.639 ' t like and that, well, look what the chance of life is. 104 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:54.639 Twelve years later he returns to me, at thirty- two years old, 105 00:08:54.519 --> 00:09:01.840 already practically professionally realized, already with a career as a lawyer of quite 106 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:05.639 a few years, and now I can say it with all the words. 107 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:11.159 You can' t hide from things, because in the end they come back 108 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:15.000 to you the way you least expect it. And I think that was a 109 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:22.559 very important part for me of my professional development. First to have a basis 110 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:26.879 as such in my professional subject, in everything I have done in my career 111 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:33.159 as a lawyer, as a human rights defender and as an activist. The 112 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:37.279 issue of activism for me is something that I do not leave lightly, because 113 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:41.240 it is very difficult. Sometimes they see it and they are troubled by being 114 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:46.679 political and having the banner of an activist, because it has been a bit 115 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:48.679 complex. They always tell us that it can' t be both, but 116 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:54.759 I think it' s something that does have to be conjugated so that you 117 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:58.759 see the actions really forceful. And I' ve noticed it in these years 118 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:05.279 of me after you this very important candidacy, I' ve seen that you 119 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:09.639 really can combine things and it' s really where you have to start paying 120 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:16.279 to see the tangible results. Not so much, we complain about seeing so 121 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:20.639 many things that we don' t like about politics, but I think the 122 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:26.799 more we get into it, the more we remove that empathy, because we 123 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:30.120 can see different results. And I think now I, from the activism side, 124 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:35.240 can say that for me it was the perfectly perfect fusion and it turned 125 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:41.480 you apart, it came back into my life untiedly. And now we' 126 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:45.799 re on it. Hey I love the attitude you have, because I always 127 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:54.159 see you on social networks very active and one feature that you truly reflect that 128 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:58.720 it is truly worth amazing, is that you have the antennas well set on 129 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:03.519 listening to people, people, to always be with people in a genuine way. 130 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:07.559 It' s not about twelve for the picture. You know no and 131 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:13.519 then smile and now now smile no, like you do it in a very 132 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:16.759 genuine way. I can' t imagine being in the campaign. I' 133 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:20.200 ve never been. I think I will never be, but in such an 134 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:24.279 important campaign, for example, for the municipal presidency of Querétaro, one of 135 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:30.080 the most important states of the Mexican Republic, without a doubt, with an 136 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:35.919 impressive background, historical cultural ethnic, well, a beauty of state. I 137 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.799 want to ask you what it feels like. First, live a political campaign 138 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:46.279 for those who have not lived it. Second, how do you listen to 139 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:52.320 so many genuine requests that people have, because the issues are diverse. Suddenly, 140 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:56.039 someone can tell you is that the water is my neighbor. I mean, 141 00:11:56.120 --> 00:12:00.360 there are a few requests that you say my God to fix it with 142 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:05.639 fulanito, but I say because they feel that approach, they feel that closeness, 143 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:11.080 they feel identified with this youth and another command, they say hey, 144 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:16.320 help me, how do you live, how do you live that, the 145 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:18.279 candidacy, the campaign and, on the other hand, how do you do 146 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:22.399 to listen to so much and so many people? Well, first I tell 147 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:24.919 you never. Say never. Never say I' m never going to be 148 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.639 in a political campaign, nor am I ever going to be a candidate, 149 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:33.360 because that' s never. That' s what we live from and believe 150 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:35.320 me I never said in my case. However, I think it came at 151 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:43.799 a time in my life where I had really reached a professional level that I 152 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:48.240 felt very, very comfortable, not in a comfort zone because it was actually 153 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:54.240 fully developed within the realm that I knew was the notarial field, the subject 154 00:12:54.240 --> 00:13:00.240 I dominated for more than ten years. Then, suddenly, then, comes 155 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:05.679 this invitation to panesa to come here we want you to be a citizen candidate, 156 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:09.799 because, apart from always I say it was a great commitment for me 157 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:16.240 to not have a party militancy and to be a citizen candidate, that is, 158 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:22.159 a candidate where a political party opens up to have a different option than 159 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:26.960 what they always see, to which we are so tired and to which we 160 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:31.600 criticize so much. Then it will be a double responsibility for me. And, 161 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:35.320 well, also the youth issue, which always blames you on saying, 162 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:41.759 well, it will be able, it will really have the experience necessary to 163 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:46.000 be our next municipal president. And so, well, and the other, 164 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:52.480 another main ingredient is woman. What a woman is going to be in politics, 165 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:54.480 No, what a woman is going to be if they should always be 166 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:58.759 in the place, in the house. I think those stereotypes that have instilled 167 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:05.320 in us women for years, years and years. Unfortunately, I still remember 168 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:11.399 saying in the campaign I could tell you that you go through a lot of 169 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:18.720 facets since they tell you hey there is this possibility and then it gets complicated 170 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:24.720 and suddenly begins the negotiation. The subject of the hustle and bustle I think 171 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:30.240 is something that as women we do have that ability to do, but it 172 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:35.720 does cost us three times as much, being at tables with men and being 173 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:41.320 the only woman on the negotiating table. I think it was something important, 174 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:46.320 but it also gives you a lot of room for manoeuvre to say good. 175 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:52.559 Here we are. We also know how to make decisions, and we know 176 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:54.840 what it means to run a municipality a state to a country. No. 177 00:14:56.399 --> 00:15:00.759 So this campaign meant a lot to me, making a team, because I 178 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:07.320 also say the subject of militancy is super important. The one who takes you 179 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:13.240 in. I really liked walking the streets of the municipality and seeing me with 180 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:18.200 good eyes. Despite being a woman, despite my youth and apart from not 181 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:22.039 having a militancy in killing, from coming from an audience already, from coming 182 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:26.960 to the public eye as such as I am, not as a vanese citizen 183 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:33.480 lawyer, then I think they were very important factors, but in the end 184 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:39.759 also very rewarding. I met people who, in truth, are in my 185 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:46.000 life today and I can tell you that they are magnificent people who have taught 186 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:50.720 me. I' ve been able to learn a lot of things from people 187 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:54.960 who are no longer grateful, of course, because people always come to your 188 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:58.759 life for some time, whether it' s a day, a week, 189 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:03.840 a month, a year, but I think you should always be grateful for 190 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:10.200 people who come to you or learn something. And to me this campaign meant 191 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:15.159 a lot, a lot of everything not, the truth is that it was 192 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:18.200 a challenge, It left a great taste of mouth. I remember and to 193 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:22.039 date I go on the streets and it is ah yes, of course you 194 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:27.200 are the candidate who came out of the past time and clearly identified you very 195 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:34.080 much. And today the truth is that I feel so comforted by all this, 196 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:40.039 of the clothes also of the party that gave me this candidacy, the 197 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:42.440 characters that in the end opened the door for me too and that followed me 198 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:48.159 throughout this journey, because I do know that there are good people who really 199 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:52.320 want to include more people and, especially youth. The theme of the story 200 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:59.759 is something super important so that they can be, because nothing more being the 201 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:06.000 same dogs end of always, but having that freshness, those new pictures and 202 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:11.839 really that inclusion not anything more than a speech, not really seeing young people 203 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:15.839 nowadays in politics, because it is nothing more of teeth out, but that 204 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:21.759 really that inclusion reaches the youths, nothing more than a few or the young 205 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:30.240 people who will just go looking in the electoral seasons to distribute publicity. No, 206 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:36.359 I believe that we now want to see young officials in the Kurules of 207 00:17:36.440 --> 00:17:41.079 the Chamber of Deputies, in San Lázaro, in the local congresses and more 208 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:45.279 as secretaries of state. I believe that we young people are very short of 209 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:51.640 this issue, but also as I have progressed. I also believe that it 210 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:53.759 is committed to the generations that it is now. For example, they come 211 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:57.839 under me. I am already thirty- three years old, but the practical 212 00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:06.000 per man, no, no, no, you still feel a little overwhelmed 213 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:11.400 by youth, but in the end I think my experience already serves them a 214 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:18.599 lot. For me it' s always and more when they make me National 215 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:22.680 Undersecretary of Youth after the campaign. For me it was something that I said 216 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:27.000 was good. I really believe that this expectation was generated and I kept working 217 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:30.680 on it. Not the issue of violence, also within the campaign is strong. 218 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:37.279 I' ve always said it and never with all the letters. As 219 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:41.039 you should say, violence has been practiced since you come in, when you 220 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:47.079 are seen with less budget or when you are sent to smaller districts or when 221 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:52.640 you are omitted from a public event. I think that' s all serious. 222 00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:56.319 Within the political institutes it still occurs and I believe that it has to 223 00:18:56.400 --> 00:19:02.240 be eradicated quite a bit. But in the end, I think there are 224 00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:06.160 more women interested in themselves being in politics, regardless of what it is, 225 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:11.079 and I love to say that we are necessary. We are not necessary women, 226 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:15.440 especially women, men and women, but I believe that women in those 227 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:22.599 positions of power are already a necessity, because we are here to come and 228 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:29.000 do things in a totally different way. How you do it to listen to 229 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:33.480 all people, that is, one thing is you already know how to receive 230 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:34.480 the envelope. Yeah, I see it, I see it, but now 231 00:19:34.559 --> 00:19:40.200 listening, no, hearing doesn' t hear, not listening. You have 232 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:45.119 stopped with families, with people, you have heard and I could even say 233 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:51.079 you have made up your own certain needs of families and so on. Some 234 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:57.920 special capacity is needed. How you handled it and how you' re so 235 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:03.799 sensitive to it. So I think you don' t need a capacity like 236 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:07.880 a super power. If you want to see it that way, I think 237 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:14.240 the most important thing here is to have that sensitivity that you say well, 238 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:18.880 because the need out there the need on the streets is real, it' 239 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:22.960 s not a joke, it' s something that feels, that' s 240 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:25.880 tangible and that people aren' t lying. In the end, the people 241 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:30.079 that I hear, who approach me, who regularly ask me for help and 242 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:34.440 I say really is because they think you can help them. No, and 243 00:20:34.519 --> 00:20:41.799 that' s why they come to you because, because I say in the 244 00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:48.440 end we are in an era and in this age I am very sorry to 245 00:20:48.559 --> 00:20:52.119 see so much violence in general, not only against women, but now also, 246 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:56.839 for the youth. They' re being killed every day, by young 247 00:20:56.880 --> 00:21:00.480 men and women who enter organized crime. It' s such a big deal. 248 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:07.440 I think people really want someone who did hear it, but more than 249 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:11.160 listen to it, who solves it now, yes, who is very fashionable 250 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:18.839 him. I do solve you, but people are really looking for solutions to 251 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:25.640 their problems, solutions to everything that goes into daily life. I don' 252 00:21:25.759 --> 00:21:30.680 t think there are whole families when I come and listen and tell me from 253 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:37.279 a mother who has suffered, to kill her daughter or her son, forgiveness 254 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:45.279 or some kind of violence that they suffer every day. Or even the minimum. 255 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:51.680 I believe that the shortage of jobs, of jobs, I believe that 256 00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:57.359 all that for people is important that people do come to see for those needs. 257 00:21:57.400 --> 00:22:03.440 The causes, I think, are very, very valid, but to 258 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:07.160 hear it directly from you from the people, because it is difficult. I 259 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:10.400 remember being told in the last campaign don' t get near him anymore, 260 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:14.279 they don' t get close to Vanesa anymore, because they' re going 261 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:17.920 Esa looks like Mother Teresa of Calcutta. Everything he wants to solve at the 262 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:21.000 moment and there are issues that sometimes go beyond you you know. It is 263 00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:26.759 also very difficult to listen sometimes to so many people and to want to help 264 00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:30.799 them all, but sometimes you can' t. I believe that the important 265 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:37.400 thing here too and the importance of being in positions of power is that possibility, 266 00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:40.839 of being able to delegate, of being able to solve, of managing. 267 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:44.839 And I think that what people want is that you solve it, you 268 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:48.440 give it a different picture and sometimes until you just take us into account or 269 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:53.839 you listen to them. I think that' s the main thing. But 270 00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:59.240 you do need sensitivity. I think that to be a civil servant, to 271 00:22:59.359 --> 00:23:06.160 be a public servant, far from being in some specific profession, you should 272 00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:11.799 be an engineer lawyer whatever it is, if you have to have that gift 273 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:15.880 so that people have that confidence that you inspire him. And above all, 274 00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:21.920 it is someone who really does manage the needs of all people. Hey, 275 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:27.240 Vanesa, I' d love to ask you if you didn' t want 276 00:23:27.640 --> 00:23:33.079 what you' re a lawyer, if you weren' t on the subject 277 00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:34.759 of politics, what would you have been? What would you like to have 278 00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:37.240 studied or been? I don' t know I don' t know. 279 00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:48.920 I don' t know. If you heard the question, I asked you 280 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:52.319 what you would have liked to be. And this I would love because you 281 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:56.079 have a very special carism with people. Not that' s something worth recognizing. 282 00:23:56.359 --> 00:24:03.680 There are serious politicians, I remember a few very formal political six- 283 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:11.079 year- olds, very square speeches and suddenly we fell into the excesses of 284 00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:18.000 putting even clowns as candidates a horrible co, but with that particular gift that 285 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:22.119 you have listening to approach, you would have liked to do something else as 286 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:29.000 a singer, actress or something notice that just yes, I have a particularity. 287 00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:33.720 Yeah, I really like to sing and before I remember when I was 288 00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:38.799 in high school, I was in a rock band, I was in an 289 00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:44.799 error group and I was practically like a year and the rock band, in 290 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:48.079 fact, was very famous and my vitan hey I don' t want to 291 00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:52.720 be our vocalist. Of course, I was just 18 years old and the 292 00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:56.720 truth is that I think it was one of the stages that I remember with 293 00:24:56.720 --> 00:25:00.359 the most joy in my life and happiness, because, apart from that, 294 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:02.839 saying that you are obviously not going to be a singer are going that. 295 00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:07.400 That, that' s gonna starve to death, but it makes you so 296 00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:11.480 ratified and so happy that it was wow to me. Not by chance of 297 00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:17.319 fate. I' ve already taken my life seriously, I' ve been 298 00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:23.000 trained, but you also know that when the law career ended, I was 299 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:30.240 born and I think that from before, before I went to law, I 300 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:36.759 had that little seed planted to be a doctor. The idea happened I was 301 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:42.880 nowhere after finishing right into med school. But in the end my professional life 302 00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:48.240 was also taking me for good you start to move forward, you start to 303 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:53.880 get high. And we already entered different stages of the race, already practically 304 00:25:53.920 --> 00:26:00.920 with a consolidated job, because I saw practically the impossible that I has followed 305 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:04.359 you of things. But I think if I hadn' t been a lawyer. 306 00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:10.519 I think I would have been a doctor and if there was something I 307 00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:15.920 had stayed in my eighteen years until the singer had noticed, we would be 308 00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:21.559 right now, a famous singer. I love it, I would have loved 309 00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:22.920 to interview you as a singer. Hey, tell us. Please, I 310 00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:32.000 ' d love to know, obviously, you spent primary, high school, 311 00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:36.559 high school, career, master' s, etcetera, and you' re 312 00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:37.960 still studying and you' re still getting ready. However, what matter do 313 00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:41.880 you think. I don' t know about elementary and high school at any 314 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:47.720 time you say. If I had the chance to remove this matter, I 315 00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:52.519 would certainly remove it. And if I had the chance to put a matter 316 00:26:52.519 --> 00:27:00.880 in, what matter would you like youth to learn to notice what to remove. 317 00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:06.960 I think that more than taking away the subject of education, because I 318 00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:10.440 would do it differently, because I think that everyone and everyone is complicated at 319 00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:15.960 some point in our life, some matter, in particular, if you ask 320 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:18.799 me, I didn' t like at all physical, physical in high school, 321 00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:23.759 for me it was my headache and I think I punged it like that 322 00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:30.839 of pure clifa. But I really think that if it is necessary equal end, 323 00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:33.880 let' s all say, the subjects are there because of some situation. 324 00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:40.039 Maybe the point is how you teach it for something you don' t 325 00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:44.920 like. Not perhaps the teacher, the teacher has an archaic way of teaching 326 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.759 it, but I don' t think I would take it away. And 327 00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:52.240 even now you' re asking yourself a subject that I would include. I 328 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:59.640 would, yes, go a long way on the subject of having a subject 329 00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:04.599 focused on issues of equal importance, something of a gender perspective that we should 330 00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:07.599 always have from a younger age. I think we' d have one, 331 00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:17.240 that is, countries with less violence and countries with more teenage children with a 332 00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:21.759 zero- machism chip of non- violence. I think all that if you 333 00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:26.880 focus to a degree on that part, with that perspective from equality, because 334 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:30.039 we know that for equality we still have a lot of years to go. 335 00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:36.440 But I know that I think that could make a different change in children and 336 00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:42.279 adolescents. Even ourselves. I say I think I' m already talking about 337 00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:47.920 one more issue of activism or feminism. I' ve always told myself that 338 00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:52.680 feminism came into my life about four years ago and it totally changed my life. 339 00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:59.759 You unlearn a lot of patterns, a lot of stereotypes that, well, 340 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.680 unfortunately, you were educated from home, from school, from everything. 341 00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:08.680 But I think if we look at it as something you could sow from a 342 00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:15.119 young age, you could have very different generations. Now I want to ask 343 00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.519 you this because I think it' s very important. With these same stereotypes, 344 00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:22.319 I think there' s one thing going around that' s success. 345 00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:29.240 And then many people think, believe and assume that success is equal to bringing 346 00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:33.160 a good car, having a two master' s degree, a doctorate, 347 00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:41.160 that success represents having a social political position or being the general director of a 348 00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:45.839 transnational how does that define success for itself? What is success for you, 349 00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:52.319 for notice that success I believe is to be happy and free with what you 350 00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:59.359 are doing. I think you' re successful when you, in what you 351 00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:03.559 do, in what you develop day by day, you' re happy and 352 00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.160 free. And I say that with those two words because I think they are 353 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.880 two very fundamental values. The happiness that, I say, we must all 354 00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:15.079 do something that makes us happy, because if you are not happy, then 355 00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:21.079 I think you are wrong. And freedom why, because it' s practically 356 00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:25.400 a right that we all have, that we all have and that practically, 357 00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:30.160 if you' re not developing yourself with full use of your freedom in what 358 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:32.920 you do, then you' re not going to succeed. So I think 359 00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:36.880 it' s important that in everything you do, you be happy and free. 360 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.279 It' s the main thing And I think that today I do what 361 00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:47.119 I do and what I have done in my life, short or long, 362 00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:51.240 as we want to see, I think it has made me happy and it 363 00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:55.880 has made me free And at some point I think that under some circumstances and 364 00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:56.920 I came to feel without freedom or without being happy, because I also changed 365 00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.799 the course. It is not very valid also to change that apart from saying 366 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:03.680 well, if I do not feel happy or feel free, because I can 367 00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.920 change the rupo of that too I want that to be the most important thing. 368 00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.359 At the end of the road, you' re the director, the 369 00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:15.759 producer, the main character of your life. No, and at the end 370 00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.400 of the road you have that decision. Now tell us, what are you 371 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:23.640 most grateful for? What you' re constantly thanking for There' s something 372 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:27.759 in particular you' re saying. Thank God, universe life that takes you 373 00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:34.759 and motivates you day by day to face any kind of challenge notice that right 374 00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:40.079 now. I' m very grateful because I' m a mom. Actually, 375 00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:47.279 whenever I was asked, I could hardly see the fact that I was 376 00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:53.960 a mom because of some situation that happened to me in past years, a 377 00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:56.839 subject that I suffered from cancer. I had cancer at the age of twenty 378 00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.559 - four in one of my ovaries. So, practically this theme marked me 379 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:06.200 a lot. You know. Then I said, then, to be a 380 00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:08.559 mom to me, since I didn' t tell myself to be impossible anymore, 381 00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:12.319 because it' s not impossible. Yeah, yeah, but I really 382 00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:16.839 saw him away. Far away, and I think my daughter totally changed me 383 00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:23.440 the world came to show me things that, well, are challenges. I 384 00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:27.119 mean being a mother, being a single mother. Apart from everything else, 385 00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:32.680 it is not easy to have a professional life and to play both. It 386 00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:36.720 ' s been the most challenging thing I' ve ever done in my life, 387 00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.680 more than the political issue. Believe me that now that I see yes, 388 00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:45.680 I see my friends and I see so many women who seriously break it 389 00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:50.119 for their children. Now I get it. I don' t think you 390 00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:54.480 even get a little sensitizing about being a motherhood can' t be romanticized. 391 00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:59.960 It is something that is with great effort, from the beginning to the end. 392 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.200 But I think it' s also the most, the most I' 393 00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:08.640 m grateful, because I say in the end, if it changes you, 394 00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:12.880 if it transforms you, but it makes you better be human and be a 395 00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:15.000 better woman. So I think if I' m thankful for something with life 396 00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:20.599 today it' s about being a mom and besides being a great mom, 397 00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:23.720 because you have to recognize it. I think I repeat that motto every day, 398 00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:29.640 because it' s not easy anymore when you live it to all my 399 00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:32.160 friends who have babies and who are going through the first few months. I 400 00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:36.920 mean this is going to happen, it' s going to be clear, 401 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.640 but you' re a great mom and you' re doing super good just 402 00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:44.599 the ones that we' re moms. I think we know what it' 403 00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:47.759 s like to wear these two facets or up to three. I' m 404 00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:51.119 telling the truth, now I' m even looking at my mom more. 405 00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:53.920 But yes, I think that' s what I' m most grateful for 406 00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:58.759 today. Who do you admire? Who do you admire? What do you 407 00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.720 say? I' d like to be like her or like him. I 408 00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:08.039 would love to talk about having those same values, having those same criteria, 409 00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:12.880 living that same coherence. There' s someone in particular who comes to mind, 410 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:20.440 so look. I think there are a lot of characters, especially women, 411 00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:25.039 women, I admire a lot of women, especially feminist women, who 412 00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:31.039 have set the stage for the life of the general of the world. Actually, 413 00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:37.320 I could tell you it' s coming to mind. There is a 414 00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:42.800 feminist who, apart from being a nun, is Argentine, who has marked 415 00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:46.519 a very important tendency to be imagined to mix religion with the theme of feminism. 416 00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:51.599 Yes, yes, it is a very difficult thing, but I think 417 00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:57.360 she has been that disruptive person who came to be and who came with the 418 00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:01.960 Pope, apart from everything else, to introduce himself to him and I remember 419 00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:07.159 a lot that she said that when she arrived with the Pope, the Pope 420 00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:12.000 told her you are the little nun who is relaxing in Argentina and who is 421 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:14.599 here on her way. And yes, yes, yes, it is I 422 00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:20.960 say because follow it doing really think those women, because there are so many 423 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:25.039 women that I admire, but I think those women and now what I dig 424 00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:30.159 deeper and I' m getting to know a little more of those women that 425 00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:34.840 we really become a different margin in the life of a country, of a 426 00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:38.079 municipality, of a state. I think they' re really admirable women and 427 00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:40.840 I don' t think I' d say anything else. She is, 428 00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:46.079 to mention her, one of many. But the truth is that there are 429 00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:51.639 so many women I admire and especially women who are no longer women who have 430 00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:55.440 given up their lives in long battles and who, well, today we are 431 00:35:55.320 --> 00:36:05.880 here for them. Sure hear and you think that n n truly the world 432 00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:12.280 is ready to receive women in important positions of power, as presidents, as 433 00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:17.199 presidents, as directors as and I believe and it is a question perhaps obvious 434 00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:22.519 a silly question, if you will allow me. I think there are no 435 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:28.320 silly questions, because I think it' s important to understand that, at 436 00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:31.159 least for me, the world has always been ready. No, and I 437 00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:37.719 think you guys would do and do an excellent role way beyond the capabilities you 438 00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:42.679 mention. The simple fact, for example, of being a mother allows you 439 00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:46.320 to expand your abilities. Your intelligence, but your tenderness, but your firmness, 440 00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:51.400 but your discipline, I mean, is a challenge. No, then 441 00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:54.440 the question would be we are already ready to see, at least in Mexico, 442 00:36:55.280 --> 00:37:00.679 presidents, we are already seeing more and more Secretaries of State, not 443 00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:04.519 municipal presidents, etcetera. It' s a maybe very obvious question, but 444 00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:09.559 I' d love to hear it from your lips. Notice that whenever you 445 00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:16.400 ask me this question, I tell you it is something that we bring as 446 00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:23.239 immersed men and women. If I call it patriarchal logic, patriarchal logic and 447 00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:29.880 assume to say they are not ready, they still lack them. But it 448 00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:30.280 ' s a man' s and a woman' s thing. Uh, 449 00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:34.559 no, nothing else is that men are saying no, no, they' 450 00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:37.840 re not ready. It' s not men and women. I really think 451 00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:42.960 that, of course, we' re ready to see women we' re 452 00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:49.159 already seeing. I believe that it is more than anything to prepare and unlearn 453 00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:53.119 these kinds of situations, this patriarchal logic that is immersed in each one of 454 00:37:53.199 --> 00:38:00.360 us and us who, because we really see that still yes, I am 455 00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:06.360 and I start too seeing these kinds of comments. Every time a powerful woman 456 00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:15.760 goes out to do a press conference or makes a publication about cystemas negative comments 457 00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:22.400 or about her dress or about her physique, I think they will always put 458 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:27.280 more on than the work behind them. So I think that' s something 459 00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:32.920 we need to eradicate right now. There is a lot of work to be 460 00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:38.679 done in teaching all people that this kind of stereotypes, that this kind of 461 00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:45.320 logic, because it is practically obsolete. Not at present what we have to 462 00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:50.920 do and what we have to base ourselves on is that all people deserve a 463 00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:54.599 right simply because they are people. I mean, there' s no ideology, 464 00:38:55.079 --> 00:39:00.519 there' s no issue that' s about people' s rights. 465 00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:05.960 I think there is, human rights are above all, and there can' 466 00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:08.920 t be anything to exclude you. No, I think that' s the 467 00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:16.599 most important thing, but a great job to do is to put it in 468 00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:22.719 all this way that they involve from schools, from the very house of the 469 00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:27.039 home. I believe that right now the issue of communicating it and leaving out 470 00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:31.320 ideology and these things that no longer pay us any more, because it is 471 00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:37.599 the most important thing and I believe that it is a great job as women, 472 00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:40.679 as men and as everyone else, not just a few, but that 473 00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:46.480 we must all be unlearning and learning. I believe and this question I wanted 474 00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:52.559 to ask you, because, obviously, there are still, as you said 475 00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:58.000 rooted in some cultures, in some ways of thinking and you say that it 476 00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:04.639 is not possible that we do not have clear ideas in front of the obvious, 477 00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:10.320 that is to say and I insist, there are women around the world, 478 00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:12.920 in any sector call themselves productive and industrial. Today we are commenting on 479 00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:19.800 it now, not religious women who are truly transforming and disrupting this world that 480 00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:25.440 needs to awaken, that is, if for so many centuries, with a 481 00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:30.000 patriarchal misunderstanding, with a deplorable machismo. We' ve done as we' 482 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:34.559 ve done, because I think it' s time for you to take over 483 00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:37.079 and sort out the game a little bit, the cards in the game. 484 00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:42.559 Now I want to ask you to radically change the subject, like we' 485 00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:45.480 re a football game. I' m going to change the ball side by 486 00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:51.719 side. I want to ask you There' s some kind of ritual, 487 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:55.639 some kind of object that you carry with you that when you' re going 488 00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:57.400 to give some kind of speech, you always bring with you. There' 489 00:40:57.480 --> 00:40:58.960 s some kind of ritual I don' t know about. I' m 490 00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:01.199 going to set a very silly example. A sports finger, a footballer you 491 00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:08.599 see on the football field. One of them is a tennis player. Not 492 00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:13.800 always with the man. There is something in particular that you do, that 493 00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:20.840 you have, something that excites you before you give a speech notice that the 494 00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:24.639 only thing that does always charge is St Benedict. Saint Benedict is always the 495 00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:30.400 protector of everything, but some kind of ritual as such before giving a speech. 496 00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:35.920 I think you see that that' s a very good question, but 497 00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:40.239 I don' t have any ritual, just like before, like I say 498 00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:49.159 that Yes, obviously, I believe in God that as long as something important 499 00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:52.679 comes that I have to do, of course I do being like in that 500 00:41:52.760 --> 00:42:00.519 security that involves you standing up and talking to hundreds of people and also, 501 00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:04.119 well, passing on what I really want, not from what I always say 502 00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:07.719 before, It' s good, don' t give me the chance to 503 00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:13.440 pass on what I really want, not that it' s nothing more than 504 00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:16.559 a lot of words, but that it really sits down and conveys what I 505 00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:22.039 want to communicate. We' re going to go two with questions a little 506 00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:28.719 more dynamic and I' d love to ask you imagine that you only have 507 00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:30.400 to eat one thing for the rest of your days. What would you eat, 508 00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:35.119 what is the dish you say the most? You don' t hear 509 00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:40.519 this one here I' ve got good there are several things, but I 510 00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:44.440 think Zealots are my weakness. Oh, yeah, seriously, that' s 511 00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:50.880 your point. The tacos to pastor two, the piglets, don' t 512 00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:52.480 look at lots, I love them crazy. I got another couple more, 513 00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:59.239 but I think with the otest we do over several happy ones, okay, 514 00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:02.079 we' re happy. Yeah, you could only take three things to a 515 00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:07.280 deserted island, okay, a deserted island let' s play with the imaginary. 516 00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:13.440 You can only take three things, what you take to a scientist island. 517 00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.199 Well, first of all, my daughter. I couldn' t leave 518 00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:22.000 my daughter alone. She' s going everywhere with me. I think an 519 00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:30.400 OK backpack and a water claw, I say I think with those three we 520 00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:37.800 could survive on this deserted island. You' d like to be with a 521 00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:39.360 person who talks all the time. You know if there are people who talk 522 00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:43.880 and talk and what you say right now, who breathes, I' m 523 00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:45.639 leaving, now, who grabs air at that moment I stop and leave, 524 00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:54.760 but who always talks or who never talks. Which of the two you' 525 00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:55.000 d choose, no, no, no, no, no, no, 526 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 527 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 528 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 529 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 530 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 531 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 532 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 533 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 534 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 535 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 536 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 537 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 538 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 539 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 540 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 541 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 542 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 543 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 544 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 545 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 546 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 547 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 548 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 549 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 550 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 551 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 552 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 553 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 554 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 555 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 556 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 557 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.000 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 558 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:57.519 no, no, no, no, I think they talk a lot about 559 00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:00.280 it, I say I talk a lot about it too. Then no. 560 00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:05.800 I couldn' t be with someone I didn' t talk to or definitely 561 00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:08.440 someone I talked to. Hey, I' m going to ask you quick 562 00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:12.519 questions about what you prefer A or B are very simple questions. Okay, 563 00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:16.079 give you an example. We want to know if you prefer coffee or tea 564 00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:29.719 coffee totally I am road OK. Listen to podcast or traditional commercial radio, 565 00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:38.519 uy difficult. I think radio ok nadia for diversity, do exercise outdoors or 566 00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:52.480 in outdoor gym 100 percent. Ok beach or mountain is worth uy beach beaches 567 00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:55.280 I love the beach with all my gr me too. This question is enough 568 00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:05.880 to think about what you prefer, truth or beauty. True a thousand times 569 00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:12.079 true yes. I think the truth is fundamental in everything and that' s 570 00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:19.199 what you think the truth is for everyone. I mean, we can go 571 00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:22.760 with my friends and my jete. I mean, listen to me, talk 572 00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:23.920 to me with the truth. Don' t lie to me, no, 573 00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:29.480 but suddenly we will. Yeah. We are made to endure the truth. 574 00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:35.920 Well, if you ask me. In my case, yes, I prefer 575 00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:39.000 a thousand times to be told the truth before they lie to me. I 576 00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:43.800 am already because of this subject also in what I do and I say I 577 00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:47.800 have it you have to have very thick skin to endure all kinds of truths 578 00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:52.360 of what comes. But yes. I believe that many people too cannot live 579 00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:57.719 with these issues and I believe that there will be and is valid the person 580 00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:01.079 who says no to me better lie to me and do not tell me the 581 00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:07.840 truth, but in my case I believe that yes the truth totally there you 582 00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:13.880 have Luis Miguel to be like you know güey. Yes, as Luis Miguel 583 00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:17.519 says, because Luis Miguel, listen Tell me, please, that when you 584 00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:23.239 go, for example, to a party, how you prepare you go animated 585 00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:27.960 ready to dance to everything you are more you son. No. I don 586 00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:30.599 ' t like dancing that much. I don' t like your scandal as 587 00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:36.960 you are, because obviously you say good is that thirty- three years, 588 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:40.679 you' re not very young, no, but already with a daughter suddenly 589 00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:43.800 you say ah ya. What you want to rest, for God' s 590 00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:46.559 sake, is not how you live, how you prepare for the party. 591 00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:49.440 You really like the party. You don' t like it. You like 592 00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:55.000 to dance, so see that you do. Obviously, there' s a 593 00:46:55.239 --> 00:47:00.480 vain one with a daughter and no daughter, because definitely with a mother. 594 00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:05.800 The only thing you want is to get some rest, but it' s 595 00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:09.960 also valid, of course I still like to party with my friends, spend 596 00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:15.239 an afternoon, even if we throw wines and let' s just talk. 597 00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:20.360 The truth is, I' m really funny. In general. I like 598 00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:22.800 to sing a lot, I like to dance a lot. I' m 599 00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:24.239 having a good time. When I have to have a good time. I 600 00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:29.840 had a good time. But yes, obviously, when you already mention the 601 00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:32.239 word Mom, party and you already think about it a little bit more. 602 00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:37.920 But well, it' s also an important part of not letting that be. 603 00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:42.920 There' s Mom' s face, there' s the political face, 604 00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.960 there' s the professional face, but there' s also the vanese 605 00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:51.800 facet as a woman. And as a woman I think that an important part, 606 00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:55.639 because it' s fun to go out with your friends, that I 607 00:47:55.719 --> 00:48:00.119 have a group of friends that I love and love, because the truth is 608 00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:04.079 that we' ve made a lot of topic online. The truth is that 609 00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:07.119 I love them that is my tribe and in general, I think that whenever 610 00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:12.519 you confront yourself or when something goes wrong, we even say in the good, 611 00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:15.519 in the bad, in the worst and in the ones that follow. 612 00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:19.199 I don' t think that' s very important, but yes, of 613 00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:23.239 course, I like to have fun, I like to go out and of 614 00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:29.320 course I do when I have to. But I am fascinated if you had 615 00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:36.920 the chance to meet Vanessa Gartias from 15 years ago, from 20 years ago, 616 00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:39.800 and you could tell her three things, nothing more, three things. 617 00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:44.280 You have a few minutes. You meet her all of a sudden, you 618 00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:46.840 say oh look it' s you with you. I wanted to talk about 619 00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:52.400 three tips. Let' s do it this way, three recommendations you could 620 00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:58.800 give to Vanessa from fifteen twenty years ago. I think the first thing I 621 00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:07.480 ' d say to her about fifteen years ago would be to have more fun, 622 00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:12.039 to ask for more. I feel like I' ve got a lot 623 00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:17.800 on the subject at school, but I' d tell him to have more 624 00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:21.519 fun with you and I think a part of it is important too. Forgiveness. 625 00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:30.039 You know this important subject now. Forgiveness is very important, because I 626 00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:36.239 think that things should not live with grudges and I think that that vain woman 627 00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:42.800 of fifteen years ago took things very hard and I would tell her to learn 628 00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:46.559 to forgive. He doesn' t learn to forgive. And it' s 629 00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:52.039 something very important that I think all human beings should do. This is a 630 00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:57.239 comment from me, Father, I really don' t want you to say 631 00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:00.639 anything to me. It' s a comment from me, I think I 632 00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:06.880 feel good. I sense I' m talking to the next Governor of the 633 00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:10.639 State of Querétaro, because you have the ability, the intelligence, you have 634 00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:15.280 that sensitivity. I insist, it is a comment of mine I really congratulate 635 00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:20.639 you on all the effort or dedication. I really don' t have the 636 00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:24.079 pleasure and pleasure to treat you like the super friend and then I super know 637 00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:28.719 you, but what I can really see and perceive the effort. It' 638 00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:30.920 s been worth it many times when it' s our turn to be in 639 00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:35.440 position. So, we feel lonely and we do feel the warmth of friends, 640 00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:38.679 but that' s not what friends are for, but already the fact 641 00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:44.039 of feeling the burden when no one sees us that we have to study in 642 00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:47.320 the early morning, that we have to get up very early that sometimes you 643 00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:51.559 don' t eat breakfast, you don' t eat dozens and that you 644 00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:54.559 have to come with your daughter, with a good attitude to play and make 645 00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:55.800 her all that you don' t see, that you don' t see 646 00:50:55.800 --> 00:50:59.280 on social networks. I want to congratulate you on all the effort. I 647 00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:02.960 want to tell you that you are positively impacting many people, including me, 648 00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:07.039 and I' m sure, very sure that you will reach very high and 649 00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:12.960 before firing me because time, because Juan Gabriel urged that the only thing that 650 00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:15.920 does not forgive God, forgive, but for time I do not want to 651 00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:22.079 ask you. Imagine you have to give a message to all of humanity. 652 00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:25.840 They already told us that tomorrow, at ten in the morning, Vanessa Garfias 653 00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:30.119 is going to give a message to the entire planet earth and then it will 654 00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:37.719 be translated all the dialect languages, language in all and they will share it 655 00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:42.599 on social networks, Internet, radio, television. You know you' re 656 00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:46.239 on stage, on the big stage. What would this message be my dear 657 00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:54.000 good ne. I would only say to them in general and I think that 658 00:51:54.000 --> 00:52:00.440 that is uvo, that we must all have the fact of being happy, 659 00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:06.280 that every thing you do impresses on it your full potential, that you leave 660 00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:10.159 nothing to half and, most importantly, that you love very much all the 661 00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:19.760 people around you and leave the part of then all those bad things that happen 662 00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:22.920 to us in the life of being clean and so new. But always carry 663 00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:28.480 that message, that message to all people around us with love, with affection, 664 00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:32.679 and so be free and happy. That' s what I' d 665 00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:37.760 tell them. Thank you so much, Manuel, that artesauses. Thank you 666 00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:42.320 for sharing with us your way of thinking, of feeling. Thank you very 667 00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:46.920 much for being and thank you for being, because I believe that today this 668 00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:52.639 way of being so genuine, so transparent, helps citizens a great deal to 669 00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:59.360 know who to put our trust in, our vote, who we can trust, 670 00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:04.599 how our allies can not be as citizens, and to know that there 671 00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:09.880 are people who do have a far- reaching vision and who can transform our 672 00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:14.360 life through the trust that we place in you. I' m sending you 673 00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:17.599 a big hug, a hug for your little girl too. Many congratulations and 674 00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:22.679 we' ll be in touch. Thank you Van and for everything and on 675 00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:25.519 the contrary, believe me it was a great talk. I hope it' 676 00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:30.400 s not the last one. Thank you for the good wishes. Hopefully they 677 00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:35.840 will be fulfilled, we will be informing you, but I say yes, 678 00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:40.159 those good wishes are the ones that feed the heart the most. Really. 679 00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:45.000 Thank you for contacting me, Luis, and we are still here and we 680 00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:50.079 will continue in everything that gives and I am delighted to be back here with 681 00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:53.320 you. We will talk about many things that in the second phase, what 682 00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:58.760 a good question, in the second season we will give some contests to help 683 00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:01.000 people. And there you are, interviewed. Stop talking very quickly to singers, 684 00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:08.840 actors of all kinds of personalities, doctors, psychologists, well, a 685 00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:14.800 lot and among all we will make an interesting movement to help people, but 686 00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:19.159 we will have fun. But we' re gonna have a contest is gonna 687 00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:22.639 be interesting. I' m going to invite you and all of you too 688 00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:25.159 really thank you for connecting, thank you for commenting, for sharing. I 689 00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:30.880 ' m Luis Miguel Salgado and I' ll see you in a next chapter 690 00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:32.400 of what good question blessings for everyone until soon go