1 00:00:15,679 --> 00:00:18,879 Welcome back. Everyone's a new episode of You're Wrong with Molly henning Way and 2 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,519 David Harsani. Just as a reminder, if you'd like to email the show, 3 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,280 please do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. We love to 4 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,879 hear from you, do we not, Molly, we do. I'm glad 5 00:00:29,879 --> 00:00:36,399 to hear you say that. We had our annual Federalist retreat last week. 6 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:41,000 It was great. We get together once a year because everyone's remote. We 7 00:00:41,039 --> 00:00:46,079 have people as far away as Alaska, like very few people live or work 8 00:00:46,119 --> 00:00:49,000 in the DC area for the Federalists. That's actually one of the things that 9 00:00:49,079 --> 00:00:55,320 makes us so awesome because we are not beholden to the idiocy of the Beltway 10 00:00:55,479 --> 00:00:59,520 or New York City. I mean, we had people myself included in the 11 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,399 Beltway York City, but it's not like a majority of the staff or anything 12 00:01:02,399 --> 00:01:06,000 close to it. But that also means we don't always know each other that 13 00:01:06,079 --> 00:01:08,719 well, and so we get together once a year and it was so much 14 00:01:08,719 --> 00:01:11,760 fun. And one of the conversations we had there, I was talking about 15 00:01:11,799 --> 00:01:17,760 how much I love, love love our readers, our listeners. Federalist readers 16 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,560 and listeners are just like some of my very favorite people. And I was 17 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,879 going on about how nice and wonderful they are and you were you saying that, 18 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,000 David, or were you saying something else? Was I saying that they 19 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:32,640 were nice and wonderful? Probably not? Probably not, But I would say 20 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,599 they're more wonderful than most people like it. Okay, you have to be 21 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:44,840 curmudgeonly and a misanthrope. But it is interesting that I like this retreat because 22 00:01:44,879 --> 00:01:49,519 I think most people think I'm crankier than I am probably digitally, would you 23 00:01:49,519 --> 00:01:52,319 agree with that? And when they meet me, I hope that they see 24 00:01:52,319 --> 00:01:56,560 that I'm not that you know, that much of a crank, though I 25 00:01:56,599 --> 00:02:00,359 don't know if that's true. And there were many There were many reasons why 26 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,439 I loved the retreat, but I have to be honest that like, just 27 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,280 as much as I love talking to you each week, spending time with you 28 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,719 in person is like a highlight for me. So thanks for that. But 29 00:02:10,759 --> 00:02:15,520 also you injured me. You injured me at the retreat, which I think 30 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,159 we should. We should go over this first of all, so I would 31 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,560 I would say that I'm, as you know from the retreat, I'm very 32 00:02:22,599 --> 00:02:25,560 competitive when it comes to sports. So we played basketball. We had played 33 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,759 wiffle ball. They have like where we were a wiffleble field, like a 34 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,479 whole whiffle ball field, and we played dodgeball. Now I hurt myself playing 35 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:42,280 with full ball, tripping over a small mound of dirt playing wiffle ball. 36 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,240 And when I told my wife that I had hurt myself on a mound of 37 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,120 dirt playing wiffle ball, it did not come out as manly as I had 38 00:02:47,159 --> 00:02:50,719 hoped that it would come out, you know, telling her about that. 39 00:02:52,039 --> 00:02:55,879 Then we played basketball, and we have some real athletes, right, can 40 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:00,520 we could pause on the on the wiffle ball, which I did not play, 41 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:05,159 I was I was in an aggressive game of cornhole and axe throwing while 42 00:03:05,479 --> 00:03:07,759 you were doing that. But also I don't I don't want to. You 43 00:03:07,759 --> 00:03:13,080 know, some of our staff are with child, and one of the people 44 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,680 with child was like base running between first and second and collided with someone else, 45 00:03:17,719 --> 00:03:21,280 and I was like, my heart can't take this. Like she was 46 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,400 fine, but I just, you know, I was like worried, you 47 00:03:23,439 --> 00:03:28,240 know, that something would happen with the baby. It was a pretty intense 48 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,840 and my point was an intense wiffleball game Joshua T. Monnington editor, h 49 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,120 that man's a base runner. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was 50 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:43,680 a more aggressive and physically demanding than I had thought Wiffle of All would be. 51 00:03:44,719 --> 00:03:47,280 But yeah, we did that, and then we played basketball and we 52 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:53,000 have but I did Yeah, hold on, I when I was playing corn 53 00:03:53,039 --> 00:03:57,719 hole, I did it with a drink in one hand while throwing the you 54 00:03:57,759 --> 00:03:59,919 know the things. I feel like, that's how you have to do corn 55 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:05,360 hole. Last time last year I was I didn't realize how serious everyone was 56 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,680 going to be about the athletic stuff. This year. I brought athletic clothing 57 00:04:09,759 --> 00:04:13,240 with me and sneakers like compete. Okay, so you did the basketball game. 58 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,839 That was intense, all right? Yeah. Yeah. Everyone treats me 59 00:04:15,839 --> 00:04:19,480 because I think I'm the oldest person there. Probably everyone treats me like an 60 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:21,759 invalid. Like if I hit a basket, they're like, oh, that's 61 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,879 great job, buddy, you know, become a ninety. But you know, 62 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,680 I was pretty athletic when I was younger. And then then came the 63 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,120 dodgeball game, which was a lot of fun, right yeah, And I 64 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:40,759 have no athletic prowess at all. I was playing ping pong with Madeline Osbourne, 65 00:04:41,399 --> 00:04:46,680 who's great, She's just wonderful. And then you maintained that I threw 66 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:51,759 a ball at you. Well, I didn't want to play dodgeball because I 67 00:04:51,759 --> 00:04:56,240 I am not athletic. I have no strength. I was recently telling Nate 68 00:04:56,319 --> 00:04:58,439 Cavanaugh, also who we work with. I was like, you know, 69 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,319 I've always been kind of weak, but I am really weak, you know, 70 00:05:02,079 --> 00:05:08,480 just like things are getting worse. But anyway, I also have like 71 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,959 bad ankles and everything like that. So I was like, I'm not going 72 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,360 to play dodgeball, and Madeline bullied me into doing dodgeball. So I joined 73 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,920 the team and like within about fifteen seconds, I'd turned my ankle because you 74 00:05:20,959 --> 00:05:28,759 threw like you just helted me from your team, and then I tried to 75 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,920 avoid. I tried to dodge the ball, did not do a good job, 76 00:05:31,199 --> 00:05:33,639 turned my ankle, and I was like playing injured for the rest of 77 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:38,120 the dodgeball game. Okay, I just want to say I'm not calling you 78 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,120 a liar. I don't think you're a liar. I think I don't think 79 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,160 you would do that, but I think you're mistaken here. I one hundred 80 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,439 percent would not be throwing the ball at you. Now, maybe I was 81 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,759 throwing it at someone else. Oh yeah, if you were behind them or 82 00:05:49,759 --> 00:05:55,000 something. So do you know that one round of dodgeball where I was the 83 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,639 last person standing. I was trying to assess how that happened. And I 84 00:05:58,639 --> 00:06:01,319 think it's because I'm like, actually so slow that it confounded other people. 85 00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:05,000 They would be throwing the ball trying to like anticipate where I would be, 86 00:06:05,399 --> 00:06:09,079 but I was just not getting there, and so I was just surviving, 87 00:06:09,199 --> 00:06:13,279 like round after round. Let me float another theory by you. Nobody wanted 88 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,800 to hit me, You're the boss. No one wanted to throw a ball 89 00:06:15,959 --> 00:06:19,959 you. I think that was probably you. Like when we were picking teams 90 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,800 and Jeremy picked me early, I was like, oh boy, Brown knows 91 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,639 her, Like we all know what I should be the last picked. It's 92 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,120 okay. Can I is the funniest thing that happened on the trip? Can 93 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,079 I quickly tell you? Is that there's a little there's like a fishing area 94 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:39,560 and you know, so I'm I like to fish some fishing. Nothing's happening 95 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,959 hours, nothing, no bites, nothing, And I'm like, there are 96 00:06:42,959 --> 00:06:45,879 no fish in here, supposedly stocked. So the guy who worked there, 97 00:06:45,959 --> 00:06:48,680 takes me into this little area. He throws pellets in the water, and 98 00:06:48,759 --> 00:06:51,920 a million fish come to the top, like and just they't jumping out of 99 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,480 the water, like I could have grabbed one with my hand. It made 100 00:06:55,519 --> 00:06:59,120 me feel like such an idiot. But I thought I was a good fisherman, 101 00:06:59,199 --> 00:07:00,959 but apparently not. But anyway, it was I didn't catch anything either, 102 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,680 Yes, okay, I don't think any of us did. But it's 103 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:09,920 so it's I think it's always nice. It's always nice to see. We 104 00:07:09,959 --> 00:07:13,439 had some new staff and it was great to meet them, and yeah, 105 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,639 we've been nicely growing and the and it was so it was like particularly special 106 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,800 to meet some of the new people for the first time. And also I 107 00:07:20,839 --> 00:07:26,720 was reading this Politico article this week about how journalism has lost its swagger, 108 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,879 and it had all these different reasons. It was all about how corporate media 109 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,439 had lost its swagger, how you used to actually read kind of interesting things 110 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,319 in corporate media and now there's nothing interesting. And you know, obviously this 111 00:07:36,399 --> 00:07:41,319 is because of like the left's takeover. So there's no humor and there's no 112 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,759 and you just have to be so careful and obey the orthodoxius of the age 113 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,360 but I was thinking about our staff, and we are just I mean, 114 00:07:49,439 --> 00:07:53,839 we have some people that are just nothing but swagger and it's fun and they're 115 00:07:53,879 --> 00:07:58,480 aggressive and they are they'll just like do anything to tell the truth about what's 116 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,920 really going on, and it's it's just so much fun to work here. 117 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,879 And it's just the conversations will go from like the Reformation to like good Times 118 00:08:07,879 --> 00:08:11,600 in nineteen seventy sitcom and like, you know, a minute flat. So 119 00:08:13,279 --> 00:08:16,279 it's just the conversations are a lot of fun. I think it hopefully some 120 00:08:16,399 --> 00:08:20,839 of that is reflected. I know that's a lot of that's reflected and how 121 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,319 you know, the things we cover and how we write and why the Federalists 122 00:08:24,399 --> 00:08:28,759 existed and why you know, why it was formed and why it exists now. 123 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,799 And I think that meeting the people is really gotten. My juice is 124 00:08:33,879 --> 00:08:37,039 flowing again to do more, you know what I mean. So it was 125 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:41,039 a great it was a great weekend. So I feel like I just talked 126 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:43,360 to you though, So now we need to talk about what's happened in the 127 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,679 last few days. So what do you want to talk about? Well, 128 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:52,919 I was thinking we should talk about Donald Truent, just that since twenty fifteen. 129 00:08:52,279 --> 00:08:56,039 But I think we need to talk about all the law fair, the 130 00:08:56,159 --> 00:08:58,080 lawfair schedule, let's call it that. So I think, what is it 131 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:07,399 four or five cases this week? Alvin Bragg and the New York case had 132 00:09:07,519 --> 00:09:13,720 as their witness. The prosecution had Stormy Daniels. It was not called her 133 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:20,360 Davis. Stormy Daniels, orne star and alleged lover of Donald Trump. Now 134 00:09:22,759 --> 00:09:28,840 I find this case the most probably the most ridiculous, because I cannot detect 135 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:33,320 any illegality in anything. So it always makes me wonder, like, why 136 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,679 are we here. I have a slight hope that maybe the jury will and 137 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,840 it's not going to happen, but maybe the jury will find Donald Trump innocent 138 00:09:39,919 --> 00:09:45,480 because it is so ridiculous. But I wanted to just mention that the having 139 00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:50,360 Stormy Daniels there to go over in great detail all this, you know, 140 00:09:50,399 --> 00:09:56,840 the alleged you know, goings on behind the closed doors with Donald Trump, 141 00:09:56,919 --> 00:09:58,840 was just meant to embarrass him. It had no it did not seem to 142 00:09:58,879 --> 00:10:03,039 me like it had any relevance to the case, no relevance to the illegality 143 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,519 that supposedly went on, And it just really drove home the point to me 144 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:13,120 that this is just all a show trial. I don't even know what to 145 00:10:13,159 --> 00:10:16,039 say about it. Like, obviously it's a show trial. The case is 146 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:22,120 about a bookkeeping it's a bookkeeping trial. And the claim is that like Donald 147 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:30,759 Trump personally, you know, filed an expense in the wrong column and therefore 148 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,879 has broken New York law and so she would go to jail. It's such 149 00:10:35,919 --> 00:10:39,159 an absurd thing, like when you say it out loud, Like, Also, 150 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:41,320 all of the witnesses thus far have kind of been like, yeah, 151 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,159 Donald Trump isn't really like the He's not the one actually entering things in the 152 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:50,720 books. And there's also the issue that had he done things differently, he 153 00:10:50,759 --> 00:10:56,399 almost certainly would have broken the law. So it's like a complete Stalinist kind 154 00:10:56,399 --> 00:11:00,159 of approach. But the predicate of the whole case is that he is not 155 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:07,480 allowed to have to seek to sign an NDA non disclosure agreement with someone to 156 00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:11,360 help protect him his reputation during an election, which is the most insane thing 157 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:16,919 I've ever heard of my life. If two people voluntarily engage in a contract 158 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,600 like this, it is completely legal. There is no underlying crime whatsoever. 159 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,799 Yeah, and it was investigated by federal authorities and they determined there was nothing 160 00:11:24,879 --> 00:11:31,279 to charge, and they didn't charge. And so Alvin Bragg is in the 161 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:37,399 New York City Prosecutor's office, and his predecessor was that Cyril Cyrus Vance guy 162 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:43,360 who did successfully. He got all of these attorneys who were Democrat attorneys to 163 00:11:43,399 --> 00:11:48,200 sort of agree to work. They were highly paid, highly high powered Democrat 164 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,480 attorneys who just made a decision to go work for the New York City prosecutor 165 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,200 to try to go after Donald Trump because Donald Trump hadn't shared his tax records, 166 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,440 and they took that all the the Supreme Court. It was a very 167 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,759 coordinated Democrat thing. So then Alvin Bragg comes in. They were hoping that 168 00:12:05,799 --> 00:12:09,279 when they got access to his tax records that it would show some illegality, 169 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:15,480 and as is like routinely amazing with this man Donald Trump, they found no. 170 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,759 They just found nothing illegal. So they spent all these years trying to 171 00:12:18,799 --> 00:12:20,679 get his tax records and it all came to nothing. So then they came 172 00:12:20,759 --> 00:12:26,600 up with this other idea to get a quick and easy conviction on the claim 173 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:31,039 that, yeah, a non disclosure agreement could not be for any reason except 174 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,360 to influence the election. But he's not even being charged with that. They're 175 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:41,120 saying that when he did his paperwork, which he didn't actually do the next 176 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:46,000 year, so not before the election, he misfiled it somehow, which he 177 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,759 didn't do also, And so it's like one of the more absurd things we've 178 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,559 seen. But we should remember that the bigger picture is that there was this 179 00:12:54,879 --> 00:13:01,840 again highly coordinated Democrat effort to remove Donald Trump from the ballot. And what 180 00:13:01,879 --> 00:13:05,720 they were hoping for was that one of the law fare cases Democrats are engaged 181 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,399 in would result in a conviction and then that would be the predicate for removing 182 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,480 him from the ballot. So they got all these cases going. But then 183 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:15,879 that you know, Twelfth Amendment thing did go to the ballot, or did 184 00:13:15,879 --> 00:13:18,080 go to the Supreme Court, and Supreme Court ruled nine zero that they should 185 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,879 not be trying to remove Trump from the ballot, and yet the cases are 186 00:13:22,919 --> 00:13:28,000 ongoing for other reasons, to hurt him financially, to hurt him with his 187 00:13:28,039 --> 00:13:33,799 reputation, to keep him off the campaign trail. It is massive election interference 188 00:13:33,799 --> 00:13:37,639 on the part of Joe Biden and everyone else in the Democrat Party. And 189 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,120 I just want to remind people that in what was it like twenty nineteen, 190 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:50,279 we did a whole impeachment, a whole impeachment on the claim that Donald Trump 191 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:58,720 having a phone call about Joe Biden's corruption in Ukraine was election interference. 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You hear me right, that's 217 00:16:00,759 --> 00:16:07,200 three extra months for free that Serfshark dot deals slash Federalist. How about this 218 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:15,159 slightly off topic just speaking of impeachment. Recently, Congress passed in AIDS package 219 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,440 to Ukraine and Israel with very specific things that you're supposed to send to Israel, 220 00:16:19,759 --> 00:16:25,320 and Joe Biden has held back that money. Though Congress passed the bill 221 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:30,879 to punish Israel to buy some votes in Michigan. That is actually what Donald 222 00:16:30,919 --> 00:16:36,039 Trump supposedly did, but in action like he is doing this for political reasons. 223 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,000 It's a Congress passed the law, he lobbied for the law, and 224 00:16:41,039 --> 00:16:45,360 now he's holding it back because some people in Michigan and on Columbia University campus 225 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,320 and elsewhere don't like it. I mean, that seems to me to be 226 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,559 an impeachable offense as well, if you really want to hold people to the 227 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,360 same standards. So the Alvin bradcase continues, I also want to point out 228 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,919 another major problem with the case for those people who care about rule of law 229 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:06,200 and having a republic that exists. The judge, who's a Democrat Operative and 230 00:17:06,279 --> 00:17:15,559 his daughter is like also a Democrat Operative, has been placing the accused under 231 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:18,440 a gag order, which is just like completely unprecedented. The number of things 232 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,359 that the left is willing to do because of their hatred of one man and 233 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:29,200 his supporters is like always amazing to me. So they put the sort of 234 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,759 like the victim of the government prosecution under a gag order, but not the 235 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,319 people who are prosecuting. It is just completely unheard of. In trials. 236 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,559 You might see a gag order on everybody, or even maybe on the prosecution, 237 00:17:41,799 --> 00:17:48,279 but never on the defense and on the defense alone. And he also 238 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,880 said that Brad Smith, federalist author Brad Smith, who was the former chairman 239 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:59,200 of the Federal Election Commission. And keep in mind, the entire allegation from 240 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:06,720 Bragg is that by paying a non disclosure agreement, he violated, you know, 241 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,559 election laws because of how he classified it or something. And the judge 242 00:18:11,559 --> 00:18:15,559 said that Brad Smith would not really be allowed to testify about anything relevant to 243 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:22,359 the case. The same corrupt judge allowed this porn star to give a minute 244 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:29,279 by minute detailed explanation right of what supposedly happened in this extramarital affair. But 245 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,920 then there's a gag order on Donald Trump, which all goes out to the 246 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:37,240 media, goes out across the world, it goes to voters, but Donald 247 00:18:37,279 --> 00:18:41,160 Trump is not allowed to stand outside of that courtroom later and say none of 248 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:45,960 that was true, right right? I mean, is it is just so 249 00:18:45,559 --> 00:18:52,000 stalinist, crazy nakedly I think it's going to backfire. I still believe that. 250 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:59,240 I don't know, but I believe, based on Donald Trump's own rhetoric 251 00:18:59,519 --> 00:19:06,359 and publicly available information, that he is not the world's best husband. Okay, 252 00:19:06,519 --> 00:19:11,519 Like I remember sometimes what he would say on Howard Stern, and there 253 00:19:11,519 --> 00:19:15,319 are just you know, there are problems there. But I actually, like 254 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,160 one of my things is I don't I don't actually think this particular person is 255 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:23,359 telling the truth. I don't know. I think I think the blackmail attempt 256 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:30,519 happened like at at you know, I do think they tried to blackmail him, 257 00:19:30,519 --> 00:19:33,400 and I think that he paid a non disclosure, But I don't actually 258 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:38,480 think there's I don't know. There was something very lacking incredibility about her outlandish 259 00:19:38,519 --> 00:19:41,400 claims that were very different from what they were you know, a few years 260 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,160 ago. I mean, whether they're true or not, nothing he did was 261 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,160 illegal. That's a personal matter. So it has nothing to do with this 262 00:19:48,279 --> 00:19:51,559 case. I mean, it has something to do with this case, but 263 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,480 the specifics hearing I don't even want to repeat it. You know, it's 264 00:19:55,559 --> 00:19:57,599 kind of weird and funny in a way, but I'm not going to talk 265 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:02,359 about it here. But like, there's just no reason to allow that and 266 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:08,000 to put a gag order on the president who know about it, right But 267 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:14,039 a woman who owes Donald Trump like millions of dollars right now for lying about 268 00:20:14,079 --> 00:20:18,160 this affair was able to testify quote unquote testify about it even though she hasn't 269 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,200 paid what she owes Trump. Are we allowed to say that a pornographic actress 270 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,839 does not have credibility by the way, I mean, that is not a 271 00:20:25,839 --> 00:20:27,799 career choice that has. It's not as bad as being a politician, but 272 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:34,799 pretty close anyway. So there's that case. I think that case is a 273 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:40,799 joke. I think any open minded human being knows it's a joke. One 274 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,960 last thing I want to say, that particular issue is when the two hundred 275 00:20:45,039 --> 00:20:49,440 indictments dropped or whatever two hundred charges dropped in his indictment last year, which 276 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,039 was itself a joke. There was not even a one real charge and he 277 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,960 turned it into like dozens of charges. Everyone admitted that the case was like 278 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,640 a complete and utter joke. But as other cases have fallen, apart MSNBC, 279 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,480 NBC, CNN that are all in on their hatred of Trump. They 280 00:21:08,559 --> 00:21:12,799 are like rewriting their own history to act like they never said, like this 281 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,720 is the stupidest case that has ever come down the pike in American history. 282 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,920 They're all like, and here's what happened yesterday, and here's why Donald Trump 283 00:21:22,039 --> 00:21:25,480 is really in trouble. The walls are closing in. And you know, 284 00:21:25,799 --> 00:21:30,480 I agree, like this jury was picked precisely so they would secure a quick 285 00:21:30,519 --> 00:21:33,920 and easy conviction. I'm not like one hundred percent sure they'll do it, 286 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:37,759 but I'm in the nineties. And if they don't do it, that's the 287 00:21:37,799 --> 00:21:44,119 bravest group of New Yorkers I've ever ever heard of. But the revisionist history 288 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,160 is really something to behold. I just I have imagined what happens if they 289 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,400 don't do it. How disastrous that is for this whole law affair project. 290 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:59,640 I mean, that would just be a bomb anyway. And I don't hold 291 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:00,640 out hope. I mean I hold out slight hope, but I don't think 292 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:06,079 that's going to happen. Now let's move over to the whole Georgia case. 293 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,359 So now it seems like a judge is granted the fan. This is the 294 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:15,240 Fanny Willis case. Just like a little quick before we step down to Georgia, 295 00:22:15,319 --> 00:22:18,720 let's remember that there already were the two other cases in New York. 296 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:26,880 There was Letitia James successful prosecution of Donald Trump for repaying alone with interest in 297 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,359 a way that made everybody happy, which is apparently a crime in New York 298 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:37,599 now. And then there was the you can accuse someone of sexual assault based 299 00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:44,200 on no corroborating information, including no memories or details or specifics or any kind 300 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,720 of story that makes sense in the e Gene Carroll thing. And I can't 301 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,559 even remember, Like the numbers are so insane what the fines have been associated 302 00:22:52,599 --> 00:22:59,880 with each of those successful prosecutions. But it's like a clear attempt to bankrupt 303 00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:06,680 Donald Trump and his family and his business. Again dangerous, you know, 304 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,920 Venezuelan style justice that whould have no place in America. Surprisingly, it's worse 305 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,200 than you just explained that that case. I think it wasn't even that he 306 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,480 was accused of anything. It's that he was never found guilty of any kind 307 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:25,680 of sexual assault. But yet he lost a defamation case where he mocked the 308 00:23:25,759 --> 00:23:30,440 person who made those charges who never proved them in a court of law at 309 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,000 all. I mean, that is insane. Think about that. It's like 310 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,559 you accuse me of something. I mock that accusation because you have no evidence 311 00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:40,079 and it's never been proven, and then you win what is it, like 312 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:45,079 whatever, some absurd amount of money, bazillion dollars. Yeah, because because 313 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,920 I have defamed you by mocking the thing that was never proven. I mean 314 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,599 it is a complete attack on free speech. It's insane. And just because 315 00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:56,039 listen, you know, just because the guy's rich doesn't mean it's okay, 316 00:23:56,319 --> 00:23:59,799 or just because he's a politician doesn't mean it's okay. To's simply ignore the 317 00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:07,079 liaw and you know that case was both All three of those cases are preposterous, 318 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,079 But then most of these cases are so. Fanny Willis is the other 319 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,519 case in Georgia. Now that's what's the charge there election. It's a Rico 320 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:22,960 conspiracy case that has rung up pretty much the entire Republican leadership in Georgia and 321 00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:29,359 Donald Trump and some of his people. And it's all based on a fraudulent 322 00:24:29,559 --> 00:24:33,160 situation. First of all, so it's based on a phone call that was 323 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:38,359 illegally recorded and so that alone should mean that nothing should have happened as a 324 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:45,559 result of it. But the phone call was illegally recorded by a crazy lady 325 00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:51,079 in Secretary of State's office who immediately leaked it to the Washington Post. She 326 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,920 illegally recorded it in Florida, and I do think people in Florida should look 327 00:24:53,920 --> 00:25:02,519 into prosecuting that. Florida requires two party consent phone calls that are being taped. 328 00:25:02,519 --> 00:25:07,319 You're not allowed to surreptitiously record people. She claims that she illegally recorded 329 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:12,160 and leaked it immediately to corporate media as part of a law enforcement operation. 330 00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:17,240 She said that's how she's going to defend herself if she is charged with the 331 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:22,440 crime that she committed. So, but the phone call was about a lawsuit 332 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:29,119 in Georgia that that was about how they had administered their election, and the 333 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:36,640 lawsuit pointed to many tens of thousands of problematic votes in different categories. And 334 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,480 so one of the categories which we have reported on at the Federalist, We've 335 00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:44,279 done great work on this. I Mark Davis, Margot Cleveland have all done 336 00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:48,640 great work on this. Was showing that in the state of Georgia, if 337 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,440 you move from one county to another. You were supposed to register to vote 338 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:59,319 in the new county if you've lived there for thirty days or more, and 339 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,720 not go back your old county to vote. And there were like more than 340 00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:07,519 the margin of victory for Biden people who illegally voted this way, and you 341 00:26:07,519 --> 00:26:11,000 could say, like, oh, but that doesn't really matter that they're illegally 342 00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:14,799 voting, because they still are people who lived in the state of Georgia, 343 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,880 except that people who did follow the law are disenfranchised when you let people who 344 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,920 have broken the law vote, if that makes sense. And there were other 345 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,440 categories as well, you know, questionable addresses, signature verification, all sorts 346 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,599 of things. And Donald Trump was like, you don't need to agree with 347 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,319 me on all one hundred and fifty thousand votes that we've identified as problematic, 348 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,759 but could you just agree on like eleven thousand, three hundred and two or 349 00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:42,400 whatever was like one more than the margin of victory, because then we'll have 350 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:48,599 action to kind of like proceed with our case because the Georgia courts were not 351 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,839 hearing the case in a timely fashion. So that has always been falsely reported 352 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:59,119 by propaganda, press and other global people as him saying to find, like 353 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,599 discover or invent votes that didn't actually that weren't actually cast. It's a complete 354 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,400 misreading of the call. But Fannie Willis says in a new book, a 355 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,599 hagiography about her, that when she heard about this phone call, she prayed 356 00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:18,480 that it took that one of the people who was recorded was in Fulton County, 357 00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:22,119 because if they were, then she could launch like a hole Rico investigation, 358 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,079 and she does that, and it's all based on this idea. So 359 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:32,359 these Georgians understood that they had a very good legal case, like extremely good 360 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,119 case, and in fact, it was later found to be vindicated that at 361 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,480 least one of the categories that they identified was in fact a group of illegal 362 00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:45,640 voters. But if they were successful in their case, they needed to preserve 363 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:52,759 the option of electors for the Republican nominee, and so they set up a 364 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,160 system of being alternate electors in the case that their case was found to have 365 00:27:57,319 --> 00:28:02,000 value. So this is something Democrats have done before. It's just to make 366 00:28:02,039 --> 00:28:03,440 sure you're following the law, because you know, at the same time your 367 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,519 court challenge is going through, the electoral college process is going through. So 368 00:28:07,839 --> 00:28:12,440 they are there. There's like a court transcription of them saying basically like, 369 00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:17,200 we're not saying we're the real electors. We're just saying we're the alternate electors 370 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:22,480 in the case that our court case is found to have value. And Fannie 371 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:27,680 Willis has charged them with like presenting themselves as something they weren't and engaged in 372 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:33,119 a you know, like assault on democracy. And then that's exactly what's happening 373 00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:40,880 also in Arizona, also with you know, some corrupt people in that state 374 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:47,039 as well. So in that case though of Fannie Willis, Fanny or Fannie 375 00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:52,160 Willis obviously acted corruptly in a political manner to begin with, but also in 376 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,680 a personal manner as well. Her special prosecutor was a guy named Nathan Wade 377 00:28:57,119 --> 00:29:03,200 who she had had a long term affair, and so on the judge is 378 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:08,160 he corrupt to this judge because he'd let Fannie will just stay on the case 379 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:14,759 even after learning about all this, But now, A yeah, I mean, 380 00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:18,519 I just I feel like he gave everything that was needed for this appeal 381 00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:22,200 to go forward. He did issue a very tepid, you know, like 382 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,039 allowing her to continue so long as her lover her yet so as long as 383 00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:30,319 her lover left office. Yeah, but he also kind of said in even 384 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,279 that decision, he was like, and other people might want to look into 385 00:29:33,319 --> 00:29:38,640 this. I mean she could face disbarment even over this, So that will 386 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:45,799 indefinitely delay that come out. Widen has to spend even more of your kids 387 00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:51,200 and grandkids credit cards. The Watched Out on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. 388 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,799 Every day, Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and the economy and 389 00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:59,000 how it affects your wallet. After last week's poor GDP numbers, it's gonna 390 00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:02,680 be much harder for this is the grow We don't need economists to lie for 391 00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:06,759 us on TV. We see stagflation on the ground. Whether it's happening in 392 00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:08,839 DC or down on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially. Be informed. 393 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,599 Check out the Watchdot on Wall Street podcast with Chris mccowski on Apple, Spotify, 394 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:18,640 or wherever you get your podcast. Well, the Georgia Court of Appeals 395 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:26,200 took up the case that you know Donald Trump's lawyers move forward with removing her 396 00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:29,039 from the case. And if you remove her from the case, first of 397 00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:30,720 all, delays a trial passed. The election, which is almost surely going 398 00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:37,640 to happen But moreover, who knows what a normal da or how they would 399 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,920 act. They might pull the whole case altogether. Right, There's no reason 400 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,319 for any of these people to be prosecuted in any way. It's just straight 401 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,160 up Democrat law fair against Republican opponents to take them off the playing field. 402 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:56,559 Yeah, right, So you probably know more about this than I do. 403 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,279 But so the other case I wanted to talk about was the Clasy documents case. 404 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,680 So there too, If I'm getting this correctly, the case is going 405 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,440 to be delayed. The judge there seems to be a straight up decent judge, 406 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:18,480 correct, And she's decent under unbelievable pressure from the media and other Democrats, 407 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:22,319 like she has just been treating Do you remember the Washington Post a few 408 00:31:22,359 --> 00:31:26,039 months ago? They wrote a piece They were like, this woman is acting 409 00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:33,200 like Donald Trump has a right to a defense, and I was liken't isn't 410 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,839 that just called being a normal judge? I mean, they were livid that 411 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:42,480 she was treating his legal team's arguments as if they might potentially be valid, 412 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,160 not even like ruling on them, but just sort of being like, Okay, 413 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,400 well, if this is how you're going to do it, you know, 414 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,759 that that might you know, that might win the day or whatever. 415 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,079 She was not she was not weighing in, but she's also not been playing 416 00:31:56,119 --> 00:32:00,519 some of the rush games that that other Democrat prosecutions have been able to accomplish 417 00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:04,799 by having some crazy left wing judges. So when jack Smith says, like, 418 00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:08,160 we have to rush this through. We cannot be public and transparent about 419 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,079 what we're doing or about what we found. You're just gonna have to take 420 00:32:12,119 --> 00:32:14,480 our word at it. And she's always like, no, I think we 421 00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:17,319 should. You know, she tried to set up that special Master, which 422 00:32:17,319 --> 00:32:22,000 I think the eleventh Circuit overturned, which they shouldn't have done, because there 423 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,880 are all sorts of like really complicated issues. One of the things that came 424 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,720 out because she has been being very deliberate about the evidence that they're presenting, 425 00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:35,799 is that jack Smith's team had manipulated evidence and they admitted that. And so 426 00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:38,440 that's like just one of the do you remember when they came out with those 427 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:44,160 like documents, the staged photos of like all the classified documents at mar A 428 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:49,000 Lago, and it turned out that the Jacksmith team had not handled that evidence 429 00:32:49,079 --> 00:32:52,759 with the kind of care that they should have given it was a classified document 430 00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:55,480 case. Well, they moved, they moved, they moved things around to 431 00:32:55,559 --> 00:33:00,799 make to make certain files more prominent than others, for instance, represented what 432 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,400 was in the piles. Yes, correct? And do I have this correct? 433 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,160 That this Secret Service or someone I'm not sure which agency actually took some 434 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:14,240 of the files themselves and moved it gave it to Donald Trump maybe without even 435 00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:16,039 their knowledge. Is that? Do I have that wrong? I don't know 436 00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:19,480 which agency it was, but yeah. One of the things that was interesting 437 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,519 that's come out as this, as the preliminary hearings have proceeded, is that 438 00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:30,000 some of the documents that Trump was accused of improperly having had been sent to 439 00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:32,759 him I think by GSA, because they were like, we can't have these, 440 00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:36,880 like they need to go to you, and then he was, you 441 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,960 know, charged with having them after the federal government had sent them to him. 442 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,880 It's a mess of a thing. So that's postponed indefinitely, so that 443 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:52,160 will not happen. Before the election. I saw an MSNBC lawyer literally I 444 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:57,759 think a law professor somewhere say that it is true that defendants are allowed to 445 00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:00,640 have a speedy trial. You know, that's right. Granted to them. 446 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:07,039 But it is also true that we the people deserve to have speedy trials as 447 00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:09,519 well, so we can see the evidence and blah blah blah, like, 448 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,440 no, you don't. Donald Trump is a right to a defense. If 449 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,039 people have manipulated the evidence, which seems to be the case, then he 450 00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:22,199 deserves to have a hearing on that and see what's going on. But obviously 451 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:28,880 this was all calibrated to coincide with the election, and now at least two 452 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,079 of these cases, the Fani Willis case and the Document's case, are not 453 00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:35,440 going to happen before the election. The other we don't totally know that. 454 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,519 I mean, we don't know likely unlikely if we know that won't. And 455 00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:44,519 then there's the immunity. Supreme Court's dealing with the immunity question in another case, 456 00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:49,039 right, So that case I do think will proceed. Once the Supreme 457 00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:55,760 Court issues their decision on immunity. I had actually kind of assumed that they 458 00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,320 would decide that President Trump doesn't have immunity for the for the charged acts, 459 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,760 But after listening to oral argument, I do think maybe they will have a 460 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:13,480 much more complicated ruling and require a lower court to actually assess whether they charged 461 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,679 bledged crimes are things for which he has immunity or not, and that will 462 00:35:17,679 --> 00:35:23,119 probably have the effect of delaying things, but it might not. And I 463 00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:28,320 just want to say they'll issue their decision presumably in June, which is when 464 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:34,679 their term ends, and then that will give the very left wing judge Tanya 465 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,880 chuckk In time, like she might need four to six weeks to get her 466 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,159 trial going, assuming they don't say they that there's more action that needs to 467 00:35:42,159 --> 00:35:46,320 be taken before she starts. And so we could be having Donald Trump on 468 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:55,079 trial for basically the government is charging that his speech is illegal, which is 469 00:35:55,159 --> 00:36:00,360 crazy. But that could be happening in September October over ahead of the election. 470 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,679 So again, you want your election interference. I mean, the whole 471 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,400 thing is election interference, top to bottom, but it's almost so massive and 472 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:13,159 so over the top that it's like it's like taking on the eye of Soroon. 473 00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:17,559 I have to say, the immunity, the Supreme Court immunity challenge or 474 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:23,199 the Trump case, is far more interesting than the actual criminal case for me. 475 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:28,239 I mean, knowing where and what a president is allowed to do or 476 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,159 what constitutes official acts, even though none of this is in the Constitution. 477 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,079 I think it goes back to Nixon or something like that. It's incredibly interesting. 478 00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:37,320 I thought it would be a slam dunk for the you know, the 479 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:42,119 anti Trump two, but it is. It's actually kind of heartened that literally, 480 00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:45,760 like everybody on the court seemed to be taking it much more seriously than 481 00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:50,880 you know, not just the MSNBC pundits, but everybody. They were much 482 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,599 more aware that how they rule on this will affect everything from here on out. 483 00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:01,079 Yeah. Now, the whole idea of of just blanket immunity for politicians 484 00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:04,559 makes me very nervous, So I don't know how to deal with it. 485 00:37:04,599 --> 00:37:07,159 But I'm just saying it seems to me like this is the sort of thing 486 00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:09,159 they're going to have to kick back in some sense to another court. So 487 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,599 it will probably take a bit, you know, a while to get this 488 00:37:13,679 --> 00:37:20,079 moving. There have been imprudent actions from people in both parties in recent years 489 00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:25,960 and indeed throughout our history, but the imprudence of being willing to blow through 490 00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:31,480 every norm we have in order to deal with the hatred that Democrats have for 491 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:37,599 the Orange guy, it's just shocking, Like a lot of what's been handled 492 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:43,880 on the presidential immunity front has been handled through like a hidden law or you 493 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:51,119 know, even having a quasi independent DOJ was something that kind of helped everybody, 494 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,440 kind of helped the president, kind of helped the country. And when 495 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,559 it comes right down to it, actually there's no constitutional justification for it being 496 00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:02,400 independent. And and when you get these clarified, it's going to be clarified 497 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,719 in a way that you know, I don't know, there's just like, 498 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,320 sometimes good things happen when there's a little bit of ambiguity, and this hatred, 499 00:38:10,599 --> 00:38:15,960 this movement of hatred is just causing a lot of norms, norms and 500 00:38:16,159 --> 00:38:20,559 rules to fall away. I agree. I think a hidden laws and norms 501 00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:24,719 are important, especially in creating stability from one administration to the next, from 502 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:30,360 one decade to the next whatever. But the problem is when one side starts 503 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,039 blowing up norms in this way, then the other side's going to do the 504 00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:36,639 same thing. So maybe it isn't a bad thing that we settle this, 505 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,280 but it is. It is weird. Like someone pointed out to me, 506 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,360 I think it might have been a coworker. I forget who is that. 507 00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:45,199 You know, if Donald Trump what he supposedly did on this phone call was 508 00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:49,719 a personal matter, not something let's just say, not something that is part 509 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,440 of his I forgot what wording they use, but part of what a president 510 00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:57,000 does. But then blowing, you know, just firing a bunch of nuclear 511 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,159 weapons, is I meaning you can be prosecuted for doing something unconstitutional or starting 512 00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:05,239 a war, but not for you know, but you can't you can't be, 513 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,039 but you can be for a phone call. So this whole case is 514 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:13,400 incredibly interesting just to know the limits of what presidents can do. The funny 515 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,639 last thing on this for me is that I think the immunity case, I 516 00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:20,280 feel like I would like to limit immunity if possible. But also I think 517 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,719 the underlying case that Trump is being charged with is preposterous. It's a completely 518 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:29,119 free speech issue that is protected. He doesn't need immunity. His immunity is 519 00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:35,239 under the First Amendment clearly in this case. So hopefully he you know, 520 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,679 hopefully nothing happens there. So anyway, I'm just saying, the whole law 521 00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:42,559 affair schedule's falling apart. I mean, you have three or four cases where 522 00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:45,679 they're probably not going to work out for them, and I don't know what 523 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,719 the brag case, what kind of punishment that comes with. But anyone who 524 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,280 pays attention that case can see that it's nonsense. I think this helps Donald 525 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,519 Trump in the end, but in a political way, I don't know. 526 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,280 It's going to help him in a it's going to help his bank account. 527 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,039 It's a help, yeah. I mean that's so I feel like people have 528 00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:02,719 a little bit of cope on it when they're like, this is actually helping 529 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,280 him. It's like he's off the campaign trail and he is handling that really 530 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:13,360 well. Like his campaign stops in New York are just brilliant. They're going 531 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,920 very very well. But that doesn't mean it's okay that Joe Biden and his 532 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:22,199 cronies are keeping their main political opponent off the campaign trail, off the fundraising 533 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:27,679 trail finding him, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars. Like it's 534 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:35,199 insane, absolutely insane what he's having to go through. And it is a 535 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:43,800 dystopic nightmare being engaged in by Democrats and all of their regime allies. It's 536 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,679 just it's like it is so horrible and so unthinkable. For me, it 537 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:53,000 was really unthinkable that we would ever let our institutions be corrupted or abused, 538 00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:57,960 or the court's abused in this way. I don't know that it kills him 539 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,639 to be off the campaign triw not because I think Trump off the campaign trails 540 00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:05,119 a great idea, because I think he actually is a good retail politician. 541 00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:07,960 When he has those big events, I think they actually matter and help him. 542 00:41:08,199 --> 00:41:13,920 But I do think having Joe Biden constantly speaking is a great thing for 543 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:21,000 Republicans. He is, obviously, you know, struggling unpopular. The things 544 00:41:21,039 --> 00:41:25,599 he's doing aren't popular, So the more focuses on him, the better it 545 00:41:25,639 --> 00:41:29,960 is for Donald Trump. In my view. It's still very early, to 546 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,480 be honest, it'll matter. We'll see what happens in July and August. 547 00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:38,960 But I don't know. I think it's falling apart, and it's very hard 548 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:45,079 to like figure out how to launch a lawsuit to coincide with a particular date. 549 00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:47,280 It doesn't really work like that. If Donald Trump has good lawyers, 550 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,039 they're going to be able to mess with that if they want, you know, 551 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,840 even even in this sort of corruption. You know, it's just very 552 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,840 difficult, and I think that's proving to be a mistake for them. But 553 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:04,079 we'll see so Molly. Because I was at our retreat, just a lot 554 00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:07,280 of fun. I did not watch a lot of and then I had something 555 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,559 to do some other traveling. I have not had a lot of culture on 556 00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:15,519 my plate this week. You you gave someone some albums at the retreat, 557 00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:22,840 I did. I gave you guys, You and Mark Hemingway. I've actually 558 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,079 only listened to the Yazoo, so I don't I'm not one hundred percent of 559 00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:29,320 what the other two were. Oh, but thank you, you welcome. 560 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,360 So I gave you Neil Young. Everyone knows this is Nowhere, which you 561 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:37,840 apparently are not that crazy about Neil Young. My husband super loves Neil Yet 562 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,519 I gave you an album Yazoo, which was called yeas Here when we were 563 00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:44,840 young and people liked a lot. But that's the British version of the album, 564 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,519 so it's Yazoo on it, so you know, well, just you 565 00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:51,280 know it's actually the Japanese version. Oh is it okay? Japanese? I 566 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,360 looked at up, so, well, you're welcome. And then it was 567 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,480 funny because I had the albums. I didn't want to carry him, and 568 00:42:58,639 --> 00:43:00,039 Mark was standing there and I wanted to handed to him and I could see 569 00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:02,159 he was like, I don't really want them now I have nowhere to put 570 00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:05,639 them. But then he saw what album I had on top, which was 571 00:43:05,679 --> 00:43:08,719 Modest Mouse's second album, Double Album, and he's like, I was so 572 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,800 excited about this. It gave me great. I felt like, this is 573 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,800 what Santa Claus feels like every Christmas. It was. He was very excited. 574 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,639 He said he had been looking for this album and he loved this album, 575 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,960 and so I was happy to wow. Before we were even dating, 576 00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:29,400 but after I think market already decided he wanted to date me. I got 577 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,639 him a Modest Mouse poster and I think it like really sealed the deal on 578 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:40,679 him liking me. He loved Now I can date him too. It's a 579 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,480 key to his heart. Yeah, so that was fun. I just had, 580 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,639 you know, for various reasons. I needed, you know, I 581 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,320 wanted to give you guys those albums. Thank you very much. Great. 582 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys have given me many albums in the 583 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,320 past. Just serv Yeah, we did. I did watch a couple movies 584 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,800 when I got home last weekend, and the first one was Minority Report with 585 00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:08,960 Tom Cruise, based on the Philip K. Dick short story and I had 586 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,440 seen it when it came out. What was that like twenty years ago? 587 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,280 I have no idea when it came out like that, but it was fun 588 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,960 to rewatch and watch it with the kids. It was you know, there's 589 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,559 definitely some you know, it's just gives you a lot to think about this 590 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,440 future. The future, by the way, is like next year, I 591 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:30,239 think. You know. So we watched Blade Runner and that was like a 592 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,039 few years ago, and the world looks nothing like that, thank god. 593 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,440 Yeah, and Washington d C has figured out a way to prevent crime by 594 00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:43,719 identifying pre crime, which is like they arrest people before they commit the murders, 595 00:44:44,039 --> 00:44:47,280 but then something goes wrong, corrupt government official, blah blah. Oh, 596 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,440 we sort of had that technology. They just do that with Republicans. 597 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,079 They know Republicans will commit crimes, they just know it in their heart. 598 00:44:54,719 --> 00:45:01,239 And then I also watched this like very nicely but kind of b movie, 599 00:45:02,039 --> 00:45:06,079 not horror, but like kind of horror. I don't know how to explain 600 00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:12,559 it. It's a movie called Identity and it has John Cusack in it, 601 00:45:12,639 --> 00:45:15,800 and it kind of reminded me. In fact, they referenced this in the 602 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,000 movie Agatha Christie's and then there were none. You know, like it's a 603 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,800 bunch of people who all end up at a motel and they don't think they 604 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:28,119 have anything in common, but they actually do. And it's on the night. 605 00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:31,639 It's like on a very stormy night. And it also relates to a 606 00:45:31,679 --> 00:45:38,400 mass murderer whose execution is being appealed and his therapists and stuff like that. 607 00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:44,800 But even though I think I knew exactly what was going to happen by the 608 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,519 end, or not exactly, but like mostly what was going to happen, 609 00:45:46,559 --> 00:45:50,559 I still enjoyed it. And it was also it had this great quality of 610 00:45:50,599 --> 00:45:52,440 being not too long, like it was like an hour and thirty minutes, 611 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:57,239 and I just really like that in the movie now. But yeah, it 612 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:02,239 had a great cast, so so qualify. Yeah, I vaguely remember that 613 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,639 movie. I don't. I don't remember if I saw it. I will. 614 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,079 I wanted to mention two things. One is that sometimes I come home 615 00:46:09,159 --> 00:46:12,559 and you know, I'm tired and I want something light, so I'll go 616 00:46:12,559 --> 00:46:15,199 and look for a sitcom. And I started watching the sitcom called The Middle. 617 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,880 Have you ever heard of this? No, not at all. So 618 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,639 it stars the the Father. It's a family it's kind of like Malcolm in 619 00:46:22,679 --> 00:46:25,440 the Middle. I would say it's closest show I can think of. But 620 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:30,280 it stars Patricia Heaton, who was in Yeah, you know that Ray Ramono 621 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:35,280 show and stuff. It's fantastic. It's so funny. It was so unexpectedly 622 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,679 funny. It really it takes place in like Indiana, and it really gets 623 00:46:38,519 --> 00:46:42,880 I think, you know, parenting, like it gets it right. It's 624 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,880 almost a little also like Roseanne. It's got a little bit of like they 625 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:50,039 were working class family. Really good. I recommend it. It's on Peacock. 626 00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:52,719 I'm just saying. Roseanne was on gut Field a couple of weeks ago 627 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:58,400 and she had some line on there about how like, did you know Joe 628 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:04,199 Biden got eighty one million votes? She was like, it's almost unbelievable, 629 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,760 and it was just like so deadpan and great, and I was like, 630 00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:10,760 I love it anyway. She I used to love that show, and she 631 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,239 she looks great, you know, and all that. And it was I 632 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,000 see this meme where they show Madonna and they show her and then they're like 633 00:47:16,039 --> 00:47:19,960 in nineteen eighty if you were live in nineteen eighty five and someone told you 634 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,559 like this is how I was going to turn out Roseanne, was going to 635 00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:27,880 turn out of Madonna. You would never believed it. Yeah. One last 636 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,840 thing I have is that I was pretty shocked by this that Steve Albini died 637 00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:37,599 today. He was sixty one years old. He was a very innovative producer. 638 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,800 He produced Nirvana and stuff like that. He was in a bank, 639 00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:46,679 Big Black and Shellac. Just an amazing musician and producer. And he produced 640 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:52,440 PJ. Harvey's Rid of Me album, which was just like very he kind 641 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:57,079 of in the early nineties. He was one of these producers who like stripped 642 00:47:57,119 --> 00:48:00,719 away all that like echo and shimmery kind of thing, you know, and 643 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,719 just made it, you know, made raw music, and you know, 644 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,480 it was a really big He was a really smart guy. Wouldn't say I 645 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,599 agreed with him on all the political stuff he said, but his interviews were 646 00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:15,000 always interesting. So I was really sad to see that. Rest in peace. 647 00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:20,000 Damn. Anyway, That's all I have. Do you have anything else 648 00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:23,159 that's great? A love PJ Harvey? Yeah, I'm gonna listen to rid 649 00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:27,760 of Me now. Yeah, everyone should love we have our music. Maybe 650 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,719 I'll do you azoo though, But she does all the shimmery stuff going, 651 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,239 but that's okay anyway. We'll come up with some new music for next week. 652 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,679 Until then, be lovers of freedom and anxious for the