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Back Toy on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. On Steve Rivera,
you're jakins all sudden. I'm hoping you put some breaking news. I
think I did. This is I on the Ball breaking news on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. All right, So we were we were talking a little earlier
that that cal Stanford ness, and you are now being looked at as UH
possibly going into the into the uh ACC. More reports coming out, you
know, sources saying that it looks like it's going to happen, could happen
by early next week. But a thing that Ross Dallinger now is reporting from
Yahoo Sports is that, you know, the the ACC will get seventy two
million dollars in additional revenue from ESPN if these three teams go in based on
the contracts. If you get more teams, they'll give you more money.
But not all that money is going to go to the three new teams.
They a big he says, a big portion of that about fifty five million
dollars, would be distributed to the other teams. Callan Stanford will take a
lesser share, and SMU has has offered if they let them join the conference,
they will take no TV money for the first seven years. So they
want in, right, they want in. They're they're looking at the future.
They want in. They got the financial backing of you know, the
rich Dallas Boosters, you know, that would sustain them. You know,
the Dallas Boosters want to be in the ACC or they had they gone into
the Big twelve and so now so it's looking like the ACC teams will get
all this money. It's not necessarily going to go to the three new teams.
And then the discussion is, okay, how do you divvy it up?
Florida State has been bitching and moaning that they should get more money because
they're Florida States. So you know, the discussion is, okay, if
you've got fifty five million dollars more, you know, does Florida State get
more than you know, uh, wake forrest or whoever? So will it
be interesting to see how that plays out. But this ball is rolling and
it looks like it's point it's it's rolling right down the hill to where these
guys are gonna be are gonna be getting into that league. And then that
leaves h really Oregon State in Washington State out the cold, literally with nothing
left, probably head to do the Mountain West. All right, Reggie Bush
is going it has sued or is going to sue the NC double a defamition
for defamation for all the things they said about him when they took his trophy,
his Heisman trophy away from him and all that kind of stuff. What
do they say? They said that he took money and he wasn't supposed to.
Well, all the you know, the legal analysts that said he's got
no shot at this because he broke rules that were in place at the time.
He's basically saying, well, the rules I broke aren't rules anymore.
So you guys said all these bad things about me. I'm not a bad
guy, and I you know he wants it soom for deformation. On Wait
a second, I'm texting what I'm texting the Sheriff's office right now for that
speeding ticket I got when it was fifty five miles per hour Because this second,
I'm not gonna talk to you the next ten minutes. And with this
has come a lot of discussion on social media about whether or not he should
get his Heisman trophy back because you know that the Heisman people they took the
trap, they took the trophy, but they said they took it because you
know, Reggie Bush's records and all that stuff. We're all, uh invalidated
by the NC double A. Right, So let me ask you this,
because this kind of came up with basketball. Sean had some of his wins
and latches vacated. Uh, we celebrated the success of I think he was
realistic or was it Caleb Tis the winning this guy because Matt had not been
able to So what happens to those wins? Oh, I don't know if
they're not wins anymore. They're not wins anymore. Do those Shawn's guys?
Well, oh god, Steve, I don't know. But well we'll see
when the when the record, when the meta guy comes out, those guys,
because it's already happened, it was I'm sure, well there's your game.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm a guy. I'm I'm somebody
who says that's crap. They won those games. They get those games.
Yeah, But in the in the eyes of the NC double A. Maybe
they don't. And what an NC DOUBLEA doesn't care about, you know,
team records like that. What they care about is wins and losses. On
the ledger, Arizona has got this many wins, this many losses according to
art records. You okay, because then then then are you are you gonna
take away you know, do those games still counts? Haven't been played and
then they're just not wins. Do all the stats count? No, hope
they do, because they did stats all the Hey you got paid for nothing,
Actually you got nothing, paid for nothing. We have a caller,
let's take this. Ah, you're on there and I on the ball.
Hey, uh this Mike, I was calling him in about the Reggie Bush
thing. Yeah, go ahead, Yeah, So I think the way that
laid down, I was reading a little bit something about this. I think
that what Reggie's actually complained. So they were there was discussion since they were
going to uh give them back to wins, that they were going to give
if they give them back to wins, and Reggie should get his trophy back.
So that's what he was going, That's what he had said. The
NCA came out with a statement afterwards just recently that said that they don't support
pay to play violation, and that's where Reggie Bush is soon about, because
he did. He didn't do the pay to play they get they took away.
He didn't. They didn't prove that Reggie Bush did anything wrong. It's
just that USC allowed this to happen, and so they they gated USC's wins,
which meant that Reggie Bush never played any games. So he took his
height right. The violation on Reggie Bush, what I heard was that he
got paid by an agent with a promise to let that agent represent him.
He wasn't getting paid for going and playing at USC. You're correct, So
yeah, and so okay, I think he got his parents right. His
parents are the ones right. They got a house and stuff like that.
A house, they got ten thousand dollars with the furniture, They got all
sorts of stuff right from the agent. So it was mostly the parents.
It wasn't Reggie and that was I can't. I guess that's the thing about
it where it's a pay to play thing, and the NCAA came out and
talked about pay to play. Okay, that was interesting, Okay, good,
Well, thank you for reading that, thank you for filling it.
Yeah, so it wasn't the original NA statement. It's got it, okay,
got it all right? Perfect, Hey, Mike, thank you for
calling. Thanks for cleaning that up. We do appreciate it. Not a
problem. You get tank you Okay, So there you go. We'll listen
to Mike. He seems to know more than we do on that. Well,
a lot of people do, all right. I think you know,
look, he won the trophy, give him damn troke. Well that's that's
the funny thing is because I have friends here and you have friends here.
But whenever someone was going through its troubles in the twenty seventeen year when they
had they said, I hope they win the NC Double A title. I
said, okay, but they're probably gonna take it up take away. It
just doesn't matter. I mean, it doesn't matter. We won. We
won the title, right, And I'm thinking, okay, then why not
just do it all the time. Yeah, that's why I say cheat and
get to the rose ball. Okay, I've had I have have jokingly said
that a number of times. I said, cheat the hell out of it
and get to the rose ball, Because you get to the roseball nobody'll ever
take it, take that away from us. But they obviously didn't do that.
Dave Hicky wouldn't like to hear me saying that. All right over at
Iowa. More on the gambling scandal that they've got going through their program.
Two guys have already been a criminally charged with tampering with records. They charged
tampering with records because they were betting. They were under age twenty one and
they were betting using other people's accounts. Now, a starter on the defensive
line, a defensive tackle, Noah Shannon, has been suspended because he apparently
he's been he's been gambling, uh, you know, against the rules.
He has come out and he's kind of owned up to it, said,
they're they're taking their time doing their investigation. I can't be mad at them
for that. I mean, I broke a rule. I owned up to
it. So he's been suspended for the season. He's a fifth year senior,
twenty eight career starts, Honorable Mention All Big Ten last year and he
is out for the season. So defensive tackle that they got some big problems
up there with that stuff. Yeah, all right. In the NFL,
man Trey Lance has been is possibly no longer with forty nine Ers. He
was name Sam Darnold was named the backup to Brock Purty as the forty nine
ers quarterback, and so Trey Lance is basically third string. He was not
at practice today. People people were reporting and so they're wondering whether he's even
on the team. Is he gonna be released, They're gonna try and trade
him, what are they gonna do with him? But he is, he's
like, he's even the thirteam guy. The nine Ers three years ago traded
up to the third spot to draft him. You know, he's he's a
he's a bust almost at the level of a guy like JaMarcus Russell, you
know, got the first overall picking Raiders. Didn't pan out the Raiders,
right, you know, he probably just wasn't good. He probably lands somewhere
just because someone just said earlier this week that he's just not capable of playing
in the NFL, not the NFL, because you know, he played what
he had one year that he started in North Dakota State and that was that
and were this is the isn't pretty the guy of quarterback we talked about earlier
at least I did where he's not all great with the arm and all that,
but he gets things done right. That's the quarterback Kawan brock Purdy is
t J McConnell. Yeah, oh, perfect, good analogy. Yeah yeah,
good analogy. But you guess what you he's the guy that who's the
all the all the Nicholson on all the men whatever this is that that the
three men and the baby, the men, the military. When he's on
the understand, oh uh, he stands on the don't know, a few
good man, a few good man. When he says you don't want me,
but you want me on the wall. Yeah that you need me on
that wall. Yeah, you need that guy on the wall or yeah,
where they say he stands on the wall and make sure nothing's gonna happen to
me. That's the TJ. McConnell's. You look at him, says,
are we gonna play him? And then he does all these things. He
does all these things you need him to play for you? Yea, the
question, I mean, Brock pretty dead for half a season, a little
over half seven and one. You know, keep doing it. You're the
guy in the super Bowl. But you know that was they saw enough to
say you know he's our guy, and then Sam Darnold is now the backup.
So yeah, man, Trey Lance looks like he's out at the forty
nine ers a number three pick in the NFL and it's a great, good
franchise. Yeah yeah, yeah, looks and knows what he's doing right.
By by all accounts, he's one of the best, if not the best,
offensive mind in the league. So there you go. We talked about
Jonathan Taylor of the Colts running back earlier, earlier this week or last week
at He's been given until Tuesday by the Colts to find a suitable trade,
you know, to get out to get out of Indianapolis. According to Adam
Schefter, six teams have inquired about his availability and two have made offers.
Not do not know what those offers are, but there's a deadline on Tuesday.
You know, the Colts want to know, are you on the team
or not? So good? Some time to see if you can find another
place to go in another place that he would be a comfortable claim. Sure,
guy Richard Texas Mensis bringing pretty to Phoenix and he'll beat up Murray.
Yeah wow, crazy crazy Shoho Tany left the game again today in the middle
of a bat. He just he's got arm fatigue. He get a homer
earlier in the game, but now he's uh, he was sitting on the
bench and so he's not I know when he'll pitch again. But he came
out of the game after twenty six pitches in the in the game with Today's
was in the second inding, so showy. I don't know, man,
body breaking down, body worn out, doing too much, you know,
because he kind of does everything and and there're no out of it officially after
sorter keeping him pretty much, he's probably saying, what the hell what am
I doing here now? Yeah? Yeah, all right, big game.
Boomer pissed off a bunch of Arizona fans today. Uniforms Yep, of course
he did the top fifty best uniforms in college football and Arizona is not on
the list. They're losing their mind. Tell me what some of the responses
have been. While the one response was like basically, get the hell out
of here. Yeah, come on their uniform there. Well, you know
how I feel about the uniforms. Yeah, let me see, I'm trying
to find a frying to find a bad one. No, I just I
just saw one just to impress. Blah blah blah. How's that working out
for you? Jay? But they look good? Well yeah, look here's
the thing. I mean right, everybody's blue fish up. I look at
I look at the list of the top fifty. First of all, to
me, the big glaring omission is USC. They're not on here. How
do you not put USC on there? Okay, you've got South Carolina,
you've got Minnesota, Central Florida, Hawaii, Baylor. Uh oh wait,
USC is there? My bad twenty six? So they've got they've got pit
ahead of them. Get out of here. Delayne what the hell is delayne?
Got you know? Smu uh TCU. You know Colorado's ahead of USC.
I'm sorry. UCLA's number two, and I'll give him that. That's
a pretty blue. It's a great uniform. They've they've they've hung on.
Dude, Steve, you know, you kid, you're you're misconstruing the discussion.
No, we talked about this, you got you finally got my point.
Look, we talked about CLA's guys. They're probably playing because they're wearing
the uniform. They're playing as good as they can play. They just sucked.
I wore a power of Blue shirt not long ago. Oh wow,
back now it's trying to be tough in some women's says to me, how
tough can you be? You were in power were What the hell are you
gonna be? They got they got Michigan at number one, U c l
A, number two, North Carolina number three, Oh mass which what the
hell? And then Pitt I'm like, what the hell you know? You
got? Like you got Washington way down at number thirty four. You've got
uh, you've got We've gotta go. Well, no, we don't gotta
go, but oh we do gotta go. Oh okay, that's right.
We got Dave cosco Hey, stick Sorry about that. We got to end
abruptly, but yeah, stick around for Dave Cosgrove, hit soccer coach at
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the Ball. Hey, welcome back to All on the Ball here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's jagn Zos non I phone.
We have Pima Astecs Men's Sucker coach Dave Cosgrove. How are you, David?
Hey, good, Thanks for having me on. Guys. Off the
air, you were saying that you had your first game last day, and
then I'm told you're ranked eighth in the country going in and I'm thinking Piema's
ranked eighth. What the hecks? Are going on. Yeah, you know,
you would think they would probably take a look at the coach and since
we've stop so far down, no, how is it? But it seems
like that's that's a good place in terms of expectations. Aren't what they were
and that might be good. Yeah, you know, you know obviously see
things have changed over the years I've been at team up and expected expectations have
changed. So you know, uh, we we did have the you know,
the strongest year last year. I think we anticipated having a little bit
better the year last year. So we're further down the rankings is than we
have been a long time. But you know, I think every coach you
ever have I will party tell you that it really doesn't matter where you start.
It's more about what you end, right right, no question, Yeah,
no no doubt. So tell us a little bit. Tell us what
you know about your team so far? Again, only one game, but
you know you've had, you know, your your fall practice and whatnot.
What do you know about your team? I know we're very young, and
I think I think we have talent. I think we have potential, but
we're very young. Last night, I think we started eight or nine freshmen,
so I think it's going to be a really good challenge for myself and
the coaching staff to bring along and be patient and educate a young but talented
group. So it's for me, it's a great professional challenge. I'm really
looking forward to it. And so far the kids have been really responsive.
They've been very disciplined putting in the war. We're just a little bit inconsistent
in some areas and that you know, we obviously a working hard to fix
every day. Yeah, I'm sure, and I'll get this out of the
way right away. You guys have agreed to host again for the national title
weekend or a week whatever, whoever that is. You mustn't really liked what
you guys offered down here. Well, you know, in the middle of
November. I think Tucson is probably one of the best places in the country
to go. We've been fortunate enough to make the national tournament basically every year
since twenty fourteen. Yeah, so we've played in you know, sub sub
freezing temperatures, we played in snow, we've been played we played in a
heavy wind. Uh So, you know, I think Tucson probably has the
best whether to offer at that time of the year. Of any place in
the country. I think we talked to Monico when that when that thing was
coming up, and just, uh, it takes a lot of effort.
And I'm sure you know you you as the coach and so as the quote
unquote host, you've got some added stuff, you know when when you are
the host team at the same time you're you're trying to win a national championship.
How was that last year? You know, to be honest, it
wasn't too bad. The people who ran the tournament, you know, Jim
Monico and the staff really took almost all of it off my plate and let
me just try to do a good job coaching. So you know that the
tournament ran great. Obviously there was great you know, the field that Keo
they had rest of them so they were in great shape. Uh, and
their grass, which you know, I think a lot of players appreciate playing
on after they come from back East where they've been playing on turf most of
the year. Right, So everything about it was really good. As you
know, the reality was my performance in tea performance wasn't what we would expect.
Yeah, so let me tell you tell me so I have a Pima
shirt. I think it's I think it says twenty and eighteen. I saw
it in my laundry yesterday or sometime. I'm thinking, and they said twenty
and eighteen. Was that when you won the title? That long ago?
Yeah? Our first national championship was twenty and eighteen. I would and you
know I was five years ago, so I'm not sure that qualifies as long
ago. But the first one was in two thousand and eighteen, and then
we got the second one in two thousand and twenty one. Okay. See,
that's that's why I am thinking. I said, it didn't seem it
seems so long ago you just had another one. That's my point. That
was kind of my point. I've seen I need to give a two thousand
and twenty one one, but but well, I'd like to give you a
two thousand and twenty three one if you want to wait a couple of months.
If I do, my dog, I'll take it. Baby. It's
gonna be a double XC. Yes, he's grown in the wrong direction,
but that does that what you've created. You know, I always say it's
it's tough to get there, even tougher to stay there. How has that
worked with you? Given? You know, I know you who you are
in the type of coach you are. You know, I like it,
you know. I mean, we we spent a long time trying to get
to, you know, being one of the top pro ranks in the country,
and we placed a lot of challenges and a lot of heartbreak along the
way. And now that you know, we're there, obviously it comes with
expectations. But you know, I think I think it's a privilege, you
know, and as a custament to a lot of the work that guys have
done in the last fifteen to twenty years to put us in a place,
you know where every year we're expected to challenge for a national title. And
the fact is, you know, in our division at junior college now,
it's the biggest one in the country and the most competitive one in the country.
So it's getting harder rather than easier to win. So uh, you
know, it only makes it more of a challenge. But again, I
like it, you know, I think our kids like it, and I
think that's why a lot of kids come to team or they see it as
an opportunity to compete at the best, you know level in junior college and
to foune for a national championship and and hopefully be in a position where they
improve. It gets exposure to move on, which you know, we're doing
a really good job lately of pushing our kids along, which is ultimately probably
the number one goal about programmers out these kids get a four year education.
So, Dave, you mentioned that you feel like you've got a really young
team this year. So you know, when you're getting ready for this season,
planning out, you know how you're going to practice, what you're going
to practice, all those kinds of things. How does that change from year
to years? You know, when you've got a young team or a veteran
team or whatnot, how do you change your planning for you know, how
you're going to approach things. Well, I think it starts with me,
you know. I think when you have a veteran team, you can be
more demanding right from the beginning and hold them a little bit more accountable.
So I think this year I have to be a little bit more of a
teacher and a lot more patient than maybe perhaps I am in some other years.
So you know, it forces me to change how I do think a
little bit. And then I think, you know, we try to you
know, especially this year, trying to make it simple to start with and
then build up the complexity as we go out throughout the year. Obviously at
the starting point, next year would be a little bit hotest, So I
think we can ask them to be a little bit more developed, a little
bit more ahead of the game, hopefully if we do a good job next
year coming in. But end of the day, it's still you know,
still about teaching, still about you know, finding the right connections with the
players, motivating them, inspiring them. Uh, and you know it's sometimes
you just look kids a little bit older that been through the grind and some
kids that are younger and you have to bring them along, you know,
at their appropriate base. So how did this happen that you have more freshman
than you have were you know, a more freshman than you have older sophomores?
Is it kind of cyclical or does this just kind of happen? Yeah,
you know, obviously it's a little bit of the nature of the junior
college, you know, athletic situation where you only get kids for two years.
So sometimes you have a great recruiting class and then you won't pay them
bringing his main class kids the next year, you know, we've been really
fortunate to last well. Since two thy and eighteen, we've been pretty much
sophomore loaded every year, so we've always had returning players come back. Uh,
and then you know, in twenty twenty twenty one, when we're very
sophomoren't loaded. Last year, we had some transfer come in, so we
still had quite a few sophomores, but just you know, uh, we
just kind of had these three or four classes in a row and now they're
all gone, you know. The uh, you know, we're also really
affected by you know, the sudden or senior class. You know, how
many how many good players in each senior class, And over the last couple
of years, it's been good classes in terms of high talent, but maybe
not good classes in terms of number of players. While this class coming in
this year that graduated high school last you know, last Dune, last many
very talented. You know, we think it's one of the most complete,
depth in depth groups we've seen in you know, five to ten years.
So you know, we're you know, we're really excited to have a young
core and we think there's a lot of potential for this year. So let
me ask you, I don't know how let me ask you how old are
you? Fifty? I'd be nice, Steve, no wonder why I love
coming on your show. Can we just go with fifty? So you've been
coaching like thirty? How long? Jeez, ste if you're not going to
let me off the hook on this, so I think I think I'm started
my twenty six year here. Twenty six years? Okay, so you're fifty
even something? You know how you're old? You know how your old,
Dave is that we had Tommy Tommy Silver on the other day, maybe a
couple of months ago, and you did you know, you know, he
was like a he barely had diapers on when we knew these guys and they're
playing in UCLA. Now, what the heck just happened? Yeah, it
happens, Quire tom And what a great kid and family. Obviously we're very
familiar with Why and Kim and Wan and Tommy has been a fantastic player and
you know, a great student, you know. So I mean, I'm
just got have to watch that kid grow up and play, just turn himself
into something special for sure. Yeah, no question. Let me ask you
two, you have some some of the best kids in Tucson up there,
or some other places. Obviously, how do you I don't know, how
how do you become a Tommy Tommy Silver and that's what they aspire to be.
Yeah, well, I think you know, it's easier now in Tucson,
right. You know, there's a lot of good coaches, and there's
coaching that start that younger agent, and you know, the clubs are more
organized, more professional, and you know a lot of you know, the
better clubs in Tucson, you know play not just you know, statewide kind
of like when you know Cameron was growing up, but rot of these rot
of these best players now played on a regional level. So they're they're on
the road in California, they're on the road you know, Denver, Utah,
and New Mexico. So they're just I think they're just a little bit
more you know, sophisticated, a little bit more educated in the game,
you know, and and you know they just I think have a better opportunity.
And of course then you know you look at you got places like Grand
Canyon, where you know, are Tucson kids who played that Pema was a
national champion. Sam Marsel, you know, he's the captain that Grand Canyon.
This year in the semi year, you know, so there's stuff,
there's stuffer around, there is on a you know, Actually, Tucson men
offers a great opportunity for kids, you know, post high school, in
college and even post college to play. So I just think it's just a
more complete educational platform in Tucson and in Arizona for these kids to grow into
the game and become better players. Yeah, no, it makes sense.
And you've better hit and you've helped you've helped them along the way obviously with
two national titles and so many tournament appearances. What's next before we go,
well, I think hopefully a little bit more of the same, you know,
just getting out on the field, you know it, despite my advanced
stage, as you mentioned, Uh, you know, I'm really excited every
year this time of the year again on the field work with kids. It's
a new group of kids. They're eager to learn. So, you know,
we you know, I think, you know, the kind of the
beginning of my story, of my end of my story probably wounce around being
at Chema. You know, I see being here for a while longer if
they'll have me, and of course, if you guys are having me on
that means Chema hasn't you know, gotten rid of me yet? So uh,
you know, I just you know, obviously, I'm I'm a big
fan of Cheam of College, both as an academic and athletic institution. I
think it's the best hidden you know, secret in twos in terms of dangerybot
for education the athletic programs. You know. I think somebody told me recently
that every team of college athletic program made the playoffs but one. So I
think that's fifteen out of sixteen. I mean, I just you know,
obviously a team has been a big part of my life, and I think
it will be as I continue to move on. Okay, Dave, well,
my question was actually when's the next game? I love you very well,
I appreciate, appreciate you. Let me just and that game is home
on Saturday. We play with the women's team as well, So we play
Saturday night five thirty for the women, eight o'clock for the men out of
PEMO West Campus. If that tastic and if you want to see some good
local college soccer, you got you guys are the place to go. Okay,
thank you, Dave, Hey, thanks a much, man. I
always appreciate it. Yeah, hey, guys, I really appreciate it.
As usual, you guys do a great job supporting the PEMA Conference athletic program
and we can't thank you know, we appreciate you guys a lot. Thank
you. All right, thank you, and I was ready to get well
you're playing South Mountain eight o'clock Saturday, right, uh so what's next?
Will Okay? They thank you? Wait and then you know, he'll there
needs to be a little bit extra in his check, uh in his next
paycheck for that last a couple of minutes on the year right there. So
but you know, I'll you know, look, they've got a great program
going, we've got a great thing going, and they's been, you know,
been the guy that built that like that, so always awesome to have
him on. All right, take our break, let's take our let's take
our last break of the day. We're gonna come back. We'd love to
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Steve Rivera and Jacob Solids they have their Eye on the ball on Tucson Sports
station Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Then welcome back to on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fiftee. I'm Steve, You're Jay. We have fifteen minutes.
You guys want to give us a call? Flud that's an interesting conversation,
say right, that's yes, love that talking to Brian Holl of the
Voulder Daily Camera. Tald us all about what's going on up with Colorado and
you know the celebrity of Dion Sanders is there is the head coach up there
and all the stuff that's going on and you know it sounds like he's kind
of actually, you know, being a head football coach. Right, Yeah,
we'll see what happens. I think if i'm I think I'm gonna bet
it. I'm gonna go three and more than three and a half. Well,
according to what's going to be posted with our podcast, you are taking
the overcolor. You already put it. I'm already putting it in. So
I just let everybody know. I think so, yeah, it'll be it'll
be like three, it'll be three, and you can thinking it'll come on.
It's gonna be fun to watch. It's could be three. It's gonna
be fun to watch. And we have you and I have I have.
You have under five and a half. You have under five and a half.
I've got over five and a half on Arizona, and I've already conceded
that's gonna lose. Are you already conceded that's gonna do you think? But
but are you're gonna put You're gonna put it already half that they're gonna go
six at least I have it. Yeah, Oh okay, okay, yeah,
I have that already. Well, I think that's a I think it's
it's it's the same kind of kind of bet. You need to come up
with an Oregon State win or a Washington State win, right or are you
selwin or are you cell awin or missip statement? All right, you were
having that conversation around the table today my my Wednesday lunch talking about that game,
you know, because one of the guy said, I think they're gonna
be Missisippi State, and I said, wait a minute, man, you
can't be counting that game as a win right now. You know, if
you're going to use the same material or same criteria sold out place, it's
gonna be crazy. You didn't you struggled against him last year. Nothing's really
changed. It's a bias, you know, it's already a built in bias.
Yes, it is. It is, and I think that you know,
look, they're obviously excited about their football team over their Missister States.
Forty thousand season tickets sold in the town that only has twenty four thousand people
in it. I mean, we had that conversation, but you know,
you have to you have to understand that they're pretty excited and their team.
You know, they're there, Arizona's coming in and they think we got these
guys. You know, they're five and seven. Least, if we beat
the hell out of them at their place, that's year we shouldn't be losing
to this. Sure, of course it's gonna be physical. Yeah, the
travel exactly, all that. All that we'll see. We'll see how they
do against NAU and then we'll see the second game. Yeah, no,
I think that I think everyone can win that game. But I'm not marking
it down. No, I need reasonable reasonable mind. I'm not saying you
are, wouldn't say no, Yeah, but the reasonable mind against the other
teams that you think they have a chance to Yeah, yeah, the Oregon
States, possibly, the Washington States possibly. Yeah, those are all possible
wins, but there's a whole bunch of that. You're not going to sit
here and say they're winning that game exactly. Like with Colorado. You look
at their schedule and I think they can pull off three four four, three
for sure, but maybe not four. But that's why Vegas makes the money.
That's why they make the money, and we don't exactly. No,
So I think I think that if nothing else steve it, it's gonna make
this entire season pretty fun and interesting. Sure, no, it will,
you know, I really think it is because there's got there's so many games
that you're gonna walk in or you're you're gonna turn the TV on or whatever,
and you you do not know what's gonna happen. Yeah. No,
that's why your pool is gonna be a lot of fun, because you don't
know what's gonna happen exactly. Yeah. Uh and and well, and we
have that bet, and we have the Washington Bet, which I don't I
think you might be reading too much into the loss of their running back,
right, Yeah, you know, I mean, he wasn't like, you
know, how've been Trophy candidate or anything like that. But you know,
anytime you lose a guy that you're expecting, that you're expecting is going to
start for you, that's not very good. That's not very good. Yeah,
okay, So I don't know. I just think it's a I just
think it's I think it's gonna make for a very very interesting season for us.
Yeah. Okay, again, if you guys want to call him,
please do five two o four one six five three zero two Are normal?
People? Are normal? Oh geez, what did I say? Zero four
six four number one? Okay, Steve, can you tell and I'm wondering
how many games Colorado's gonna win. This is what I think. Okay,
uh so if you have no colin, some of our colors are gone,
and Nico's on the road to wherever he's gone to. New Jersey. Said
then, and Howard's kind of put put him put himself in a sabbatic Remember
he said after he cussed or didn't cuss. Oh yeah, he said,
I'll be out for a while. I'll be out for a while. Yeah
yeah, yeah, he deserted a while. We mean, Howard, boy
Howard. Because the Sons are Sons are gonna be coming back. I think
gonna be a game yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, And they're not gonna
win it, but Gon be pretty good. Why not? Why not?
Still? I think the Golden State Warrior's gonna be back there. Yeah,
you know, we have got a bit of a problem, right, And
and then having a christ Paul you know whatnot the guy who had the Achilles
the shooter to watch the State guy Thompson. Yeah, Clay Thompson back for
the full year. And he's been back, I know, but he was
coming off the injury. He's had a full year in after the injury.
Something you know a guy that you expect well, you know, well kind
of you think might be kind of back to norm. Okay, let me
ask you. We got a week before the NFL starts. Uh, give
me a sleeper. I'm asking you because I know I won't pay attention to
it. Give me a sleeper that isn't a favorite too? To win the
turn When the super Bowl not a Buffalo City, not a Philadelphia, Philadelphia,
there aren't there's only like four or five teams. Yeah, I'll go
San Diego. Really yeah, really, I think Justin Herbert, you know,
settling, and he's had a four years under his belt. I like
him as a quarterback. Justin Spears will be really happy that he said either
that he's gonna be upset that I said it. I'm the Kissa, but
I'm gonna I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say san Diego. That's that's a
weird pick, but it's a good pick. I like san Diego. I
like the un too, like good you know, look and play good.
Yeah, you can play tough in the Power Blue. But I think San
Diego could be a team that could do about I'm not I'm not a tongue
of a little believer. I'm just not. I think he's good enough to
be a starting quarterback, but I don't know if he's good enough to get
you to the promised land. Dallas the injury prone. You know, he
took some he took some beatings. Dak Prescott is not the guy who's gonna
get you there. So I don't think I don't like Dallas all that.
No, I don't even I think I think, uh, what's his name,
Uh, Aaron Rodgers? Don't he's too old and he's not He's not
Tom Brady. So let's see, you know how he gets frustrated during games,
and he's gonna see a lot of that. It's gonna be a tough
go. It's gonna be a tougher goal for him that I think he thinks.
Yeah right, So so there, so I don't think he's the guy
either. So I don't know. Let's see what this calor has to say.
Higher on the arm on the ball? How's it going? This is
Vic vic So hey, I wanted to ask you guys about culture change of
the football teams. Okay, listening to McMillan yesterday and how hard it was
to get over that hum how is it gonna be when Arizona gets the ball
against sc with two minutes to go. You're talking football, right, talking
football, two wits to go in they're down by fourteen, down by Okay,
I'm gonna go based on what I saw. And this was late in
the season, mind you. So I think that that this is kind of
a direct right the poise and the confidence that James Delora had and the team
had at the end of the UCLAGGA and they fell behind late, you know,
they fell behind in the fourth quarter, they got the ball, went
down and scored and they looked you know, they look confident, they looked
in charge. They didn't panic in doing that. Now are they gonna do
You think Jed has already changed the culture a little bit? Yeah, without
question, without question. I think that's very parent to your point. But
if you're talking about USC, there's still there's still so much to overcome with
that. They got way better playing, Okay, just thought about anybody Oregon
State just uh yeah, I mean you guys remember the Patriot years with Brady
and how many times the announcer said, don't give him the ball to go?
Yeah, I think I think Jane Delora can be that guy. He
was that, but he was bad. Jane Delora too. There were a
couple of times that they needed needed him to clutch up late, then he
didn't. So we're gonna see I think. I think, well, here's
here's what I think we'll find out a lot at Mississippi State. They're gonna
be there. The crowd is gonna be all over him, the place is
gonna be packed, They're gonna be excited. What How does he performed there?
How does he look from a confidence standpoint? You know, is he
in charge? Is he poised? All those things? We're gonna find some
stuff out there. I think, and and Jay and Stephen and once again
I'll point the question a different way. If he goes down and why he
gets twenty five team AC for thirty and then we score on the next play,
are we going to be able to stop Oregon State or see were coming
back down that we don't know. It's like I said earlier this week or
over the weekend, It's not gonna be whether Arizona scores enough. That's whether
the Arizona's defense can keep them from scoring. Yeah, but Steve, you've
said in a hundred times all the bad heartache and bad luck. There's definitely
got to be a culture change. It's very apparent, no question. Jed
has come in. If anything, if he's done anything, that's what he's
done. And with talent, talent and its culture change without question. Yeah,
you follow his team. The Sumlin era should have never happened. Every
noo and then how do you get out of that mess? Come on,
how do you get out of us? And Jed has done it, and
well they've gotten out of it. I think they're out of it, not
as a matter of do they have the players to go and compete. And
I think it's taken a lot short time. It took Mike Stoops a whole
lot longer to get out of that than than than took uh, you know,
coming out of the Macivic years. And it has taken dead because you
saw last year, even in games that they lost, that they were still
way better, you know, than you would expect them to be after two
years as low as it got, because I think you can argue that the
Sumlin years were way lower than the Mackivic years. I agree with yeah,
yeah, but I just wild, like I said, I want to have
that confidence that they're going to be that that team that, like, you
know, like I said, those Patre years, you knew, you just
knew you were they were gonna win if they got the ball back, right.
And Well, with that said, I think that you think that with
Delora and his his people that he has, that you like your chances?
There you go, yeah, did you like their chances because they have they
have dudes. Now they have dudes. The running back situation, the wide
receivers, the lines are better, they have dudes to score the questions.
I mean, I was watching what you guys always say, and I saw
the five offensive lineman on the sideline Saturday, and I'm like, man,
we've never we've had a bunch of five nine guys in there before exactly exactly.
All right, beck Hey, thanks so much, take care, all
right, go Dodger. You know so many things I think, you know,
I think, I think if you're talking culture teams, that has happened.
It's clearly no question, right question. You see guys out there,
they got bouncing their step. You don't feel like walking, you know,
you don't. You don't look like a team that's walking in the state and
allowed to get its ask. No, you know, guys. You know,
guys are they seem excited. The coach and staff seems together. That
piece of it has happened. But now there's a lot of catch up still
going on from a talent standpoint, and you know, maybe Jed can change
this too, but there's almost like a wall. There's only Arizona is only
going to get this talented because they're just not gonna get that next guy that
is going to USC and Alabama and ohise there. You know, so they
got but maybe the coaching staff doesn't believe that, and they you know,
they keep pulling in guys. Look, they've pulled in some guys that you
know, some of those teams wanted. You know, a kid dec committed
from Alabama to come to Arizona. You know, the kid transferred from you
know, just and Flow transferred from Oregon. They beat Oregon and USC on
some guys. You know, so maybe they will get some of those guys.
I don't know that you're gonna get him in the quantity that you know
that other schools get those. I don't think Arizona will ever get those guys
those numbers. I think they're moving to the Big twelve. It's a better
move for them because they're on the The playing field is a lot more level.
Yes, in the back, the melt is more of a hill than
And that's the thing that I've been I've been preaching is that the playing field,
Uh, you know, in the Big twelve is way more level.
There's not a usc there's not an Oregon, not even Washington there. You
know, you you can you can recruit against those guys, and so you
know you, I think you do have a better chance to compete in the
Big twelve. Let me so something we didn't talk about in breaking news.
Who's the worst by the athletics estimation, the worst football team in the country.
Uh, you mean like power five are just works just worst of one
hundred and thirty teams. I don't know us rights. Yeah, I try
to get done recorded that he'd come on the show. Obviously too busy,
but he starts this weekend. Yeah. Yeah, so he's going to cruises.
Said they think he's and they have a lot of dudes from Arizona.
Right, they got like nine or something like that. Right, it's a
big number. Right, it's a big We'll see how they Yeah, no,
I you know, I'll be paying attention to that one that should that
should be fun, that it really should be fun. Did you see what
Don Brown's doing over as a head coach right as opposed to a defensive coordinator.
A lot of work over there, though, Man, they got a
lot of work to do at at you minutes. So no this uh hey
man, we're getting closer. We're a day closer, Steve, We're a
day closer to fun. Thank you to Brian how Bolder, Daily Camera.
Thank you, Dave Cosgrove. Good luck on the on the pitch, as
they say. And we'll be back tomorrow with some great guests. Lamont Lovett,
Joe Turner is going to be joining us tomorrow, so be sure to
come back tomorrow. Thanks, thanks for being here. Believe that just