WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:07.160 Streaming live. I mean, iHeart radio whim. This is I on the 2 00:00:07.240 --> 00:00:15.279 Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. The welcome 3 00:00:15.279 --> 00:00:17.920 Back Toy on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. On Steve Rivera, 4 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:20.760 you're jakins all sudden. I'm hoping you put some breaking news. I 5 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:25.440 think I did. This is I on the Ball breaking news on Fox Sports 6 00:00:25.519 --> 00:00:29.039 fourteen fifty. All right, So we were we were talking a little earlier 7 00:00:29.079 --> 00:00:33.799 that that cal Stanford ness, and you are now being looked at as UH 8 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:39.880 possibly going into the into the uh ACC. More reports coming out, you 9 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:44.320 know, sources saying that it looks like it's going to happen, could happen 10 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:48.399 by early next week. But a thing that Ross Dallinger now is reporting from 11 00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:53.520 Yahoo Sports is that, you know, the the ACC will get seventy two 12 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:58.960 million dollars in additional revenue from ESPN if these three teams go in based on 13 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:00.960 the contracts. If you get more teams, they'll give you more money. 14 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:04.480 But not all that money is going to go to the three new teams. 15 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:10.799 They a big he says, a big portion of that about fifty five million 16 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:15.040 dollars, would be distributed to the other teams. Callan Stanford will take a 17 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:21.040 lesser share, and SMU has has offered if they let them join the conference, 18 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:25.200 they will take no TV money for the first seven years. So they 19 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:27.480 want in, right, they want in. They're they're looking at the future. 20 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:30.760 They want in. They got the financial backing of you know, the 21 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:34.840 rich Dallas Boosters, you know, that would sustain them. You know, 22 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:38.239 the Dallas Boosters want to be in the ACC or they had they gone into 23 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:42.760 the Big twelve and so now so it's looking like the ACC teams will get 24 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:48.120 all this money. It's not necessarily going to go to the three new teams. 25 00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:49.640 And then the discussion is, okay, how do you divvy it up? 26 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:56.000 Florida State has been bitching and moaning that they should get more money because 27 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:57.719 they're Florida States. So you know, the discussion is, okay, if 28 00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:01.400 you've got fifty five million dollars more, you know, does Florida State get 29 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:06.280 more than you know, uh, wake forrest or whoever? So will it 30 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:09.400 be interesting to see how that plays out. But this ball is rolling and 31 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:13.240 it looks like it's point it's it's rolling right down the hill to where these 32 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:17.159 guys are gonna be are gonna be getting into that league. And then that 33 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:23.159 leaves h really Oregon State in Washington State out the cold, literally with nothing 34 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:28.240 left, probably head to do the Mountain West. All right, Reggie Bush 35 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:32.879 is going it has sued or is going to sue the NC double a defamition 36 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:38.360 for defamation for all the things they said about him when they took his trophy, 37 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:42.599 his Heisman trophy away from him and all that kind of stuff. What 38 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:45.840 do they say? They said that he took money and he wasn't supposed to. 39 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:49.919 Well, all the you know, the legal analysts that said he's got 40 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:53.400 no shot at this because he broke rules that were in place at the time. 41 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:58.759 He's basically saying, well, the rules I broke aren't rules anymore. 42 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:00.439 So you guys said all these bad things about me. I'm not a bad 43 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:05.080 guy, and I you know he wants it soom for deformation. On Wait 44 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:07.800 a second, I'm texting what I'm texting the Sheriff's office right now for that 45 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:14.400 speeding ticket I got when it was fifty five miles per hour Because this second, 46 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:21.800 I'm not gonna talk to you the next ten minutes. And with this 47 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:23.759 has come a lot of discussion on social media about whether or not he should 48 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:30.599 get his Heisman trophy back because you know that the Heisman people they took the 49 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:34.080 trap, they took the trophy, but they said they took it because you 50 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:38.120 know, Reggie Bush's records and all that stuff. We're all, uh invalidated 51 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:40.319 by the NC double A. Right, So let me ask you this, 52 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:44.879 because this kind of came up with basketball. Sean had some of his wins 53 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:50.199 and latches vacated. Uh, we celebrated the success of I think he was 54 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:54.400 realistic or was it Caleb Tis the winning this guy because Matt had not been 55 00:03:54.400 --> 00:04:01.159 able to So what happens to those wins? Oh, I don't know if 56 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:05.599 they're not wins anymore. They're not wins anymore. Do those Shawn's guys? 57 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:10.560 Well, oh god, Steve, I don't know. But well we'll see 58 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:14.439 when the when the record, when the meta guy comes out, those guys, 59 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:18.839 because it's already happened, it was I'm sure, well there's your game. 60 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:24.879 Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm a guy. I'm I'm somebody 61 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:27.360 who says that's crap. They won those games. They get those games. 62 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:30.360 Yeah, But in the in the eyes of the NC double A. Maybe 63 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:34.839 they don't. And what an NC DOUBLEA doesn't care about, you know, 64 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:40.000 team records like that. What they care about is wins and losses. On 65 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:44.079 the ledger, Arizona has got this many wins, this many losses according to 66 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:48.720 art records. You okay, because then then then are you are you gonna 67 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:55.000 take away you know, do those games still counts? Haven't been played and 68 00:04:55.040 --> 00:05:00.439 then they're just not wins. Do all the stats count? No, hope 69 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:02.279 they do, because they did stats all the Hey you got paid for nothing, 70 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:08.040 Actually you got nothing, paid for nothing. We have a caller, 71 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:11.360 let's take this. Ah, you're on there and I on the ball. 72 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:15.519 Hey, uh this Mike, I was calling him in about the Reggie Bush 73 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:19.240 thing. Yeah, go ahead, Yeah, So I think the way that 74 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:23.199 laid down, I was reading a little bit something about this. I think 75 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:28.600 that what Reggie's actually complained. So they were there was discussion since they were 76 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:33.519 going to uh give them back to wins, that they were going to give 77 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:36.920 if they give them back to wins, and Reggie should get his trophy back. 78 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:42.439 So that's what he was going, That's what he had said. The 79 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:47.319 NCA came out with a statement afterwards just recently that said that they don't support 80 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:56.199 pay to play violation, and that's where Reggie Bush is soon about, because 81 00:05:56.240 --> 00:06:00.959 he did. He didn't do the pay to play they get they took away. 82 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:04.279 He didn't. They didn't prove that Reggie Bush did anything wrong. It's 83 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:11.319 just that USC allowed this to happen, and so they they gated USC's wins, 84 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:15.480 which meant that Reggie Bush never played any games. So he took his 85 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:19.399 height right. The violation on Reggie Bush, what I heard was that he 86 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:25.399 got paid by an agent with a promise to let that agent represent him. 87 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:30.040 He wasn't getting paid for going and playing at USC. You're correct, So 88 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:32.800 yeah, and so okay, I think he got his parents right. His 89 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:35.600 parents are the ones right. They got a house and stuff like that. 90 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:39.839 A house, they got ten thousand dollars with the furniture, They got all 91 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:43.959 sorts of stuff right from the agent. So it was mostly the parents. 92 00:06:44.439 --> 00:06:47.399 It wasn't Reggie and that was I can't. I guess that's the thing about 93 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:53.079 it where it's a pay to play thing, and the NCAA came out and 94 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:57.560 talked about pay to play. Okay, that was interesting, Okay, good, 95 00:06:57.959 --> 00:07:00.399 Well, thank you for reading that, thank you for filling it. 96 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:06.279 Yeah, so it wasn't the original NA statement. It's got it, okay, 97 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:10.199 got it all right? Perfect, Hey, Mike, thank you for 98 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:13.439 calling. Thanks for cleaning that up. We do appreciate it. Not a 99 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:16.959 problem. You get tank you Okay, So there you go. We'll listen 100 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:20.279 to Mike. He seems to know more than we do on that. Well, 101 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:25.199 a lot of people do, all right. I think you know, 102 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:28.079 look, he won the trophy, give him damn troke. Well that's that's 103 00:07:28.079 --> 00:07:30.560 the funny thing is because I have friends here and you have friends here. 104 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:34.279 But whenever someone was going through its troubles in the twenty seventeen year when they 105 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:38.720 had they said, I hope they win the NC Double A title. I 106 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:42.000 said, okay, but they're probably gonna take it up take away. It 107 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:44.279 just doesn't matter. I mean, it doesn't matter. We won. We 108 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:46.879 won the title, right, And I'm thinking, okay, then why not 109 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:50.439 just do it all the time. Yeah, that's why I say cheat and 110 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:58.319 get to the rose ball. Okay, I've had I have have jokingly said 111 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:01.040 that a number of times. I said, cheat the hell out of it 112 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:03.519 and get to the rose ball, Because you get to the roseball nobody'll ever 113 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:07.160 take it, take that away from us. But they obviously didn't do that. 114 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:11.360 Dave Hicky wouldn't like to hear me saying that. All right over at 115 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:13.600 Iowa. More on the gambling scandal that they've got going through their program. 116 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:20.279 Two guys have already been a criminally charged with tampering with records. They charged 117 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:24.000 tampering with records because they were betting. They were under age twenty one and 118 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:28.240 they were betting using other people's accounts. Now, a starter on the defensive 119 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:33.159 line, a defensive tackle, Noah Shannon, has been suspended because he apparently 120 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:37.960 he's been he's been gambling, uh, you know, against the rules. 121 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:39.879 He has come out and he's kind of owned up to it, said, 122 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:43.039 they're they're taking their time doing their investigation. I can't be mad at them 123 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:46.440 for that. I mean, I broke a rule. I owned up to 124 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:50.679 it. So he's been suspended for the season. He's a fifth year senior, 125 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:54.120 twenty eight career starts, Honorable Mention All Big Ten last year and he 126 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:58.919 is out for the season. So defensive tackle that they got some big problems 127 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:03.039 up there with that stuff. Yeah, all right. In the NFL, 128 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:11.600 man Trey Lance has been is possibly no longer with forty nine Ers. He 129 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:16.679 was name Sam Darnold was named the backup to Brock Purty as the forty nine 130 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:20.679 ers quarterback, and so Trey Lance is basically third string. He was not 131 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:24.320 at practice today. People people were reporting and so they're wondering whether he's even 132 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:28.639 on the team. Is he gonna be released, They're gonna try and trade 133 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:33.360 him, what are they gonna do with him? But he is, he's 134 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:37.320 like, he's even the thirteam guy. The nine Ers three years ago traded 135 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:41.600 up to the third spot to draft him. You know, he's he's a 136 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:45.159 he's a bust almost at the level of a guy like JaMarcus Russell, you 137 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:48.759 know, got the first overall picking Raiders. Didn't pan out the Raiders, 138 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:52.039 right, you know, he probably just wasn't good. He probably lands somewhere 139 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:54.519 just because someone just said earlier this week that he's just not capable of playing 140 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:58.360 in the NFL, not the NFL, because you know, he played what 141 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:01.440 he had one year that he started in North Dakota State and that was that 142 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:03.679 and were this is the isn't pretty the guy of quarterback we talked about earlier 143 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:07.919 at least I did where he's not all great with the arm and all that, 144 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:11.440 but he gets things done right. That's the quarterback Kawan brock Purdy is 145 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:16.279 t J McConnell. Yeah, oh, perfect, good analogy. Yeah yeah, 146 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:20.080 good analogy. But you guess what you he's the guy that who's the 147 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:24.919 all the all the Nicholson on all the men whatever this is that that the 148 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:28.240 three men and the baby, the men, the military. When he's on 149 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:33.960 the understand, oh uh, he stands on the don't know, a few 150 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:35.200 good man, a few good man. When he says you don't want me, 151 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:37.600 but you want me on the wall. Yeah that you need me on 152 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:41.120 that wall. Yeah, you need that guy on the wall or yeah, 153 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:43.120 where they say he stands on the wall and make sure nothing's gonna happen to 154 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:46.960 me. That's the TJ. McConnell's. You look at him, says, 155 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:48.159 are we gonna play him? And then he does all these things. He 156 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:50.799 does all these things you need him to play for you? Yea, the 157 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:54.240 question, I mean, Brock pretty dead for half a season, a little 158 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:56.960 over half seven and one. You know, keep doing it. You're the 159 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:01.519 guy in the super Bowl. But you know that was they saw enough to 160 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:03.799 say you know he's our guy, and then Sam Darnold is now the backup. 161 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:07.679 So yeah, man, Trey Lance looks like he's out at the forty 162 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:11.279 nine ers a number three pick in the NFL and it's a great, good 163 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:16.519 franchise. Yeah yeah, yeah, looks and knows what he's doing right. 164 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:20.159 By by all accounts, he's one of the best, if not the best, 165 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:24.200 offensive mind in the league. So there you go. We talked about 166 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:28.679 Jonathan Taylor of the Colts running back earlier, earlier this week or last week 167 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:31.960 at He's been given until Tuesday by the Colts to find a suitable trade, 168 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:37.399 you know, to get out to get out of Indianapolis. According to Adam 169 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:43.600 Schefter, six teams have inquired about his availability and two have made offers. 170 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:46.799 Not do not know what those offers are, but there's a deadline on Tuesday. 171 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:48.519 You know, the Colts want to know, are you on the team 172 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:52.240 or not? So good? Some time to see if you can find another 173 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:54.600 place to go in another place that he would be a comfortable claim. Sure, 174 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:58.840 guy Richard Texas Mensis bringing pretty to Phoenix and he'll beat up Murray. 175 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:05.120 Yeah wow, crazy crazy Shoho Tany left the game again today in the middle 176 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:09.159 of a bat. He just he's got arm fatigue. He get a homer 177 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:15.279 earlier in the game, but now he's uh, he was sitting on the 178 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:18.639 bench and so he's not I know when he'll pitch again. But he came 179 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:22.000 out of the game after twenty six pitches in the in the game with Today's 180 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:26.679 was in the second inding, so showy. I don't know, man, 181 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:31.519 body breaking down, body worn out, doing too much, you know, 182 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:35.240 because he kind of does everything and and there're no out of it officially after 183 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:37.039 sorter keeping him pretty much, he's probably saying, what the hell what am 184 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:41.039 I doing here now? Yeah? Yeah, all right, big game. 185 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:46.679 Boomer pissed off a bunch of Arizona fans today. Uniforms Yep, of course 186 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:50.120 he did the top fifty best uniforms in college football and Arizona is not on 187 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:58.000 the list. They're losing their mind. Tell me what some of the responses 188 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:01.720 have been. While the one response was like basically, get the hell out 189 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:05.679 of here. Yeah, come on their uniform there. Well, you know 190 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:09.279 how I feel about the uniforms. Yeah, let me see, I'm trying 191 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:15.960 to find a frying to find a bad one. No, I just I 192 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:18.759 just saw one just to impress. Blah blah blah. How's that working out 193 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:24.559 for you? Jay? But they look good? Well yeah, look here's 194 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:28.519 the thing. I mean right, everybody's blue fish up. I look at 195 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:31.120 I look at the list of the top fifty. First of all, to 196 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:35.120 me, the big glaring omission is USC. They're not on here. How 197 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:39.279 do you not put USC on there? Okay, you've got South Carolina, 198 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:46.679 you've got Minnesota, Central Florida, Hawaii, Baylor. Uh oh wait, 199 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:52.879 USC is there? My bad twenty six? So they've got they've got pit 200 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:56.320 ahead of them. Get out of here. Delayne what the hell is delayne? 201 00:13:56.360 --> 00:14:01.480 Got you know? Smu uh TCU. You know Colorado's ahead of USC. 202 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:07.120 I'm sorry. UCLA's number two, and I'll give him that. That's 203 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:11.840 a pretty blue. It's a great uniform. They've they've they've hung on. 204 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:18.080 Dude, Steve, you know, you kid, you're you're misconstruing the discussion. 205 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:20.639 No, we talked about this, you got you finally got my point. 206 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:24.240 Look, we talked about CLA's guys. They're probably playing because they're wearing 207 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:26.600 the uniform. They're playing as good as they can play. They just sucked. 208 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:30.440 I wore a power of Blue shirt not long ago. Oh wow, 209 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:33.639 back now it's trying to be tough in some women's says to me, how 210 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:37.799 tough can you be? You were in power were What the hell are you 211 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:41.639 gonna be? They got they got Michigan at number one, U c l 212 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:43.679 A, number two, North Carolina number three, Oh mass which what the 213 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:48.559 hell? And then Pitt I'm like, what the hell you know? You 214 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:52.120 got? Like you got Washington way down at number thirty four. You've got 215 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:56.519 uh, you've got We've gotta go. Well, no, we don't gotta 216 00:14:56.559 --> 00:15:00.159 go, but oh we do gotta go. Oh okay, that's right. 217 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:03.200 We got Dave cosco Hey, stick Sorry about that. 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Call us 286 00:19:56.240 --> 00:20:02.680 at five one two nine six two five six zero or visit our website hard 287 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:07.359 works Concrete dot com. We'll put the work in for you. This is 288 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:11.920 I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. 289 00:20:12.319 --> 00:20:17.839 Subscribe now to the podcast on the iHeart Radio while just surgeon I on 290 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:19.720 the Ball. Hey, welcome back to All on the Ball here on Fox 291 00:20:19.720 --> 00:20:23.400 Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's jagn Zos non I phone. 292 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:29.079 We have Pima Astecs Men's Sucker coach Dave Cosgrove. How are you, David? 293 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:32.599 Hey, good, Thanks for having me on. Guys. Off the 294 00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:33.799 air, you were saying that you had your first game last day, and 295 00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:38.319 then I'm told you're ranked eighth in the country going in and I'm thinking Piema's 296 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:42.799 ranked eighth. What the hecks? Are going on. Yeah, you know, 297 00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:45.480 you would think they would probably take a look at the coach and since 298 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:49.079 we've stop so far down, no, how is it? But it seems 299 00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:55.440 like that's that's a good place in terms of expectations. Aren't what they were 300 00:20:55.480 --> 00:21:00.240 and that might be good. Yeah, you know, you know obviously see 301 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:03.440 things have changed over the years I've been at team up and expected expectations have 302 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:07.920 changed. So you know, uh, we we did have the you know, 303 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:10.680 the strongest year last year. I think we anticipated having a little bit 304 00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:14.319 better the year last year. So we're further down the rankings is than we 305 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:17.319 have been a long time. But you know, I think every coach you 306 00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:21.039 ever have I will party tell you that it really doesn't matter where you start. 307 00:21:21.079 --> 00:21:23.559 It's more about what you end, right right, no question, Yeah, 308 00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:26.319 no no doubt. So tell us a little bit. Tell us what 309 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:29.519 you know about your team so far? Again, only one game, but 310 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:32.640 you know you've had, you know, your your fall practice and whatnot. 311 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:37.480 What do you know about your team? I know we're very young, and 312 00:21:37.640 --> 00:21:40.200 I think I think we have talent. I think we have potential, but 313 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:44.039 we're very young. Last night, I think we started eight or nine freshmen, 314 00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:48.720 so I think it's going to be a really good challenge for myself and 315 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:53.319 the coaching staff to bring along and be patient and educate a young but talented 316 00:21:53.359 --> 00:21:56.920 group. So it's for me, it's a great professional challenge. I'm really 317 00:21:56.920 --> 00:22:00.480 looking forward to it. And so far the kids have been really responsive. 318 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:04.079 They've been very disciplined putting in the war. We're just a little bit inconsistent 319 00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:07.200 in some areas and that you know, we obviously a working hard to fix 320 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:11.440 every day. Yeah, I'm sure, and I'll get this out of the 321 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:15.400 way right away. You guys have agreed to host again for the national title 322 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:21.160 weekend or a week whatever, whoever that is. You mustn't really liked what 323 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:26.000 you guys offered down here. Well, you know, in the middle of 324 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:27.960 November. I think Tucson is probably one of the best places in the country 325 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:32.799 to go. We've been fortunate enough to make the national tournament basically every year 326 00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:37.680 since twenty fourteen. Yeah, so we've played in you know, sub sub 327 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:41.599 freezing temperatures, we played in snow, we've been played we played in a 328 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:45.680 heavy wind. Uh So, you know, I think Tucson probably has the 329 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:48.319 best whether to offer at that time of the year. Of any place in 330 00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:51.519 the country. I think we talked to Monico when that when that thing was 331 00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:53.440 coming up, and just, uh, it takes a lot of effort. 332 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:56.839 And I'm sure you know you you as the coach and so as the quote 333 00:22:56.920 --> 00:23:02.039 unquote host, you've got some added stuff, you know when when you are 334 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:04.759 the host team at the same time you're you're trying to win a national championship. 335 00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:08.599 How was that last year? You know, to be honest, it 336 00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:11.400 wasn't too bad. The people who ran the tournament, you know, Jim 337 00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:15.960 Monico and the staff really took almost all of it off my plate and let 338 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:19.319 me just try to do a good job coaching. So you know that the 339 00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:23.640 tournament ran great. Obviously there was great you know, the field that Keo 340 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:26.920 they had rest of them so they were in great shape. Uh, and 341 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:30.200 their grass, which you know, I think a lot of players appreciate playing 342 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:33.240 on after they come from back East where they've been playing on turf most of 343 00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:37.480 the year. Right, So everything about it was really good. As you 344 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:41.319 know, the reality was my performance in tea performance wasn't what we would expect. 345 00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:45.880 Yeah, so let me tell you tell me so I have a Pima 346 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:48.519 shirt. I think it's I think it says twenty and eighteen. I saw 347 00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:52.799 it in my laundry yesterday or sometime. I'm thinking, and they said twenty 348 00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:55.359 and eighteen. Was that when you won the title? That long ago? 349 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:00.359 Yeah? Our first national championship was twenty and eighteen. I would and you 350 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:03.599 know I was five years ago, so I'm not sure that qualifies as long 351 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:07.279 ago. But the first one was in two thousand and eighteen, and then 352 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:11.000 we got the second one in two thousand and twenty one. Okay. See, 353 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:12.680 that's that's why I am thinking. I said, it didn't seem it 354 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:15.240 seems so long ago you just had another one. That's my point. That 355 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:18.240 was kind of my point. I've seen I need to give a two thousand 356 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:22.359 and twenty one one, but but well, I'd like to give you a 357 00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:23.720 two thousand and twenty three one if you want to wait a couple of months. 358 00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:26.880 If I do, my dog, I'll take it. Baby. It's 359 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:32.440 gonna be a double XC. Yes, he's grown in the wrong direction, 360 00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:36.759 but that does that what you've created. You know, I always say it's 361 00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:40.359 it's tough to get there, even tougher to stay there. How has that 362 00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:41.880 worked with you? Given? You know, I know you who you are 363 00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:45.759 in the type of coach you are. You know, I like it, 364 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:48.599 you know. I mean, we we spent a long time trying to get 365 00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:52.279 to, you know, being one of the top pro ranks in the country, 366 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:55.480 and we placed a lot of challenges and a lot of heartbreak along the 367 00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:57.279 way. And now that you know, we're there, obviously it comes with 368 00:24:57.359 --> 00:25:02.799 expectations. But you know, I think I think it's a privilege, you 369 00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:04.240 know, and as a custament to a lot of the work that guys have 370 00:25:04.279 --> 00:25:07.440 done in the last fifteen to twenty years to put us in a place, 371 00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:11.920 you know where every year we're expected to challenge for a national title. And 372 00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:14.440 the fact is, you know, in our division at junior college now, 373 00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:18.359 it's the biggest one in the country and the most competitive one in the country. 374 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:22.319 So it's getting harder rather than easier to win. So uh, you 375 00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:25.400 know, it only makes it more of a challenge. But again, I 376 00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:27.640 like it, you know, I think our kids like it, and I 377 00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:30.640 think that's why a lot of kids come to team or they see it as 378 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:33.079 an opportunity to compete at the best, you know level in junior college and 379 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:37.759 to foune for a national championship and and hopefully be in a position where they 380 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:41.359 improve. It gets exposure to move on, which you know, we're doing 381 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:45.880 a really good job lately of pushing our kids along, which is ultimately probably 382 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:51.079 the number one goal about programmers out these kids get a four year education. 383 00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:53.440 So, Dave, you mentioned that you feel like you've got a really young 384 00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:56.839 team this year. So you know, when you're getting ready for this season, 385 00:25:57.400 --> 00:26:00.079 planning out, you know how you're going to practice, what you're going 386 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:04.200 to practice, all those kinds of things. How does that change from year 387 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:07.440 to years? You know, when you've got a young team or a veteran 388 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:11.279 team or whatnot, how do you change your planning for you know, how 389 00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:15.920 you're going to approach things. Well, I think it starts with me, 390 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:19.359 you know. I think when you have a veteran team, you can be 391 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:22.319 more demanding right from the beginning and hold them a little bit more accountable. 392 00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:26.240 So I think this year I have to be a little bit more of a 393 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:30.640 teacher and a lot more patient than maybe perhaps I am in some other years. 394 00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:33.680 So you know, it forces me to change how I do think a 395 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:36.759 little bit. And then I think, you know, we try to you 396 00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:38.200 know, especially this year, trying to make it simple to start with and 397 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:42.640 then build up the complexity as we go out throughout the year. Obviously at 398 00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:45.720 the starting point, next year would be a little bit hotest, So I 399 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.720 think we can ask them to be a little bit more developed, a little 400 00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:52.720 bit more ahead of the game, hopefully if we do a good job next 401 00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:56.119 year coming in. But end of the day, it's still you know, 402 00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:59.079 still about teaching, still about you know, finding the right connections with the 403 00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:03.960 players, motivating them, inspiring them. Uh, and you know it's sometimes 404 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:06.720 you just look kids a little bit older that been through the grind and some 405 00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:08.559 kids that are younger and you have to bring them along, you know, 406 00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:12.519 at their appropriate base. So how did this happen that you have more freshman 407 00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:17.119 than you have were you know, a more freshman than you have older sophomores? 408 00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:21.920 Is it kind of cyclical or does this just kind of happen? Yeah, 409 00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:23.400 you know, obviously it's a little bit of the nature of the junior 410 00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:27.240 college, you know, athletic situation where you only get kids for two years. 411 00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:30.279 So sometimes you have a great recruiting class and then you won't pay them 412 00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:33.519 bringing his main class kids the next year, you know, we've been really 413 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:37.039 fortunate to last well. Since two thy and eighteen, we've been pretty much 414 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:41.519 sophomore loaded every year, so we've always had returning players come back. Uh, 415 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:45.799 and then you know, in twenty twenty twenty one, when we're very 416 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.960 sophomoren't loaded. Last year, we had some transfer come in, so we 417 00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:52.720 still had quite a few sophomores, but just you know, uh, we 418 00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:55.559 just kind of had these three or four classes in a row and now they're 419 00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:57.799 all gone, you know. The uh, you know, we're also really 420 00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:00.720 affected by you know, the sudden or senior class. You know, how 421 00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:04.559 many how many good players in each senior class, And over the last couple 422 00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:08.319 of years, it's been good classes in terms of high talent, but maybe 423 00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:12.839 not good classes in terms of number of players. While this class coming in 424 00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:17.799 this year that graduated high school last you know, last Dune, last many 425 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:22.480 very talented. You know, we think it's one of the most complete, 426 00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:26.480 depth in depth groups we've seen in you know, five to ten years. 427 00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:30.880 So you know, we're you know, we're really excited to have a young 428 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:33.759 core and we think there's a lot of potential for this year. So let 429 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.839 me ask you, I don't know how let me ask you how old are 430 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.759 you? Fifty? I'd be nice, Steve, no wonder why I love 431 00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:47.319 coming on your show. Can we just go with fifty? So you've been 432 00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:51.759 coaching like thirty? How long? Jeez, ste if you're not going to 433 00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:55.480 let me off the hook on this, so I think I think I'm started 434 00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:57.400 my twenty six year here. Twenty six years? Okay, so you're fifty 435 00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:00.079 even something? You know how you're old? You know how your old, 436 00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:04.799 Dave is that we had Tommy Tommy Silver on the other day, maybe a 437 00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:07.039 couple of months ago, and you did you know, you know, he 438 00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:11.119 was like a he barely had diapers on when we knew these guys and they're 439 00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:15.759 playing in UCLA. Now, what the heck just happened? Yeah, it 440 00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:21.880 happens, Quire tom And what a great kid and family. Obviously we're very 441 00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:26.839 familiar with Why and Kim and Wan and Tommy has been a fantastic player and 442 00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:30.039 you know, a great student, you know. So I mean, I'm 443 00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.440 just got have to watch that kid grow up and play, just turn himself 444 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:37.799 into something special for sure. Yeah, no question. Let me ask you 445 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:41.359 two, you have some some of the best kids in Tucson up there, 446 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.440 or some other places. Obviously, how do you I don't know, how 447 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.640 how do you become a Tommy Tommy Silver and that's what they aspire to be. 448 00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:53.480 Yeah, well, I think you know, it's easier now in Tucson, 449 00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:56.960 right. You know, there's a lot of good coaches, and there's 450 00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:00.680 coaching that start that younger agent, and you know, the clubs are more 451 00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:03.160 organized, more professional, and you know a lot of you know, the 452 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:07.440 better clubs in Tucson, you know play not just you know, statewide kind 453 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:11.640 of like when you know Cameron was growing up, but rot of these rot 454 00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:14.880 of these best players now played on a regional level. So they're they're on 455 00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:18.400 the road in California, they're on the road you know, Denver, Utah, 456 00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:21.240 and New Mexico. So they're just I think they're just a little bit 457 00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:23.759 more you know, sophisticated, a little bit more educated in the game, 458 00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:27.160 you know, and and you know they just I think have a better opportunity. 459 00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:30.000 And of course then you know you look at you got places like Grand 460 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:34.000 Canyon, where you know, are Tucson kids who played that Pema was a 461 00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:38.160 national champion. Sam Marsel, you know, he's the captain that Grand Canyon. 462 00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:41.880 This year in the semi year, you know, so there's stuff, 463 00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:44.559 there's stuffer around, there is on a you know, Actually, Tucson men 464 00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:48.200 offers a great opportunity for kids, you know, post high school, in 465 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:51.599 college and even post college to play. So I just think it's just a 466 00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:57.359 more complete educational platform in Tucson and in Arizona for these kids to grow into 467 00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:00.240 the game and become better players. Yeah, no, it makes sense. 468 00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.680 And you've better hit and you've helped you've helped them along the way obviously with 469 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:08.720 two national titles and so many tournament appearances. What's next before we go, 470 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:12.880 well, I think hopefully a little bit more of the same, you know, 471 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:17.640 just getting out on the field, you know it, despite my advanced 472 00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:22.599 stage, as you mentioned, Uh, you know, I'm really excited every 473 00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:23.920 year this time of the year again on the field work with kids. It's 474 00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:27.359 a new group of kids. They're eager to learn. So, you know, 475 00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:30.640 we you know, I think, you know, the kind of the 476 00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.519 beginning of my story, of my end of my story probably wounce around being 477 00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:37.680 at Chema. You know, I see being here for a while longer if 478 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:40.160 they'll have me, and of course, if you guys are having me on 479 00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:44.000 that means Chema hasn't you know, gotten rid of me yet? So uh, 480 00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:47.960 you know, I just you know, obviously, I'm I'm a big 481 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.640 fan of Cheam of College, both as an academic and athletic institution. I 482 00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:56.279 think it's the best hidden you know, secret in twos in terms of dangerybot 483 00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:00.759 for education the athletic programs. You know. I think somebody told me recently 484 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:05.720 that every team of college athletic program made the playoffs but one. So I 485 00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:07.519 think that's fifteen out of sixteen. I mean, I just you know, 486 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.160 obviously a team has been a big part of my life, and I think 487 00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:15.559 it will be as I continue to move on. Okay, Dave, well, 488 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:22.519 my question was actually when's the next game? I love you very well, 489 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:27.160 I appreciate, appreciate you. Let me just and that game is home 490 00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:30.279 on Saturday. We play with the women's team as well, So we play 491 00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:35.279 Saturday night five thirty for the women, eight o'clock for the men out of 492 00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:37.920 PEMO West Campus. If that tastic and if you want to see some good 493 00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.680 local college soccer, you got you guys are the place to go. Okay, 494 00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:43.279 thank you, Dave, Hey, thanks a much, man. I 495 00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:45.720 always appreciate it. Yeah, hey, guys, I really appreciate it. 496 00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:50.039 As usual, you guys do a great job supporting the PEMA Conference athletic program 497 00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:52.880 and we can't thank you know, we appreciate you guys a lot. Thank 498 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:57.920 you. All right, thank you, and I was ready to get well 499 00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:00.720 you're playing South Mountain eight o'clock Saturday, right, uh so what's next? 500 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:05.160 Will Okay? They thank you? Wait and then you know, he'll there 501 00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.240 needs to be a little bit extra in his check, uh in his next 502 00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:10.000 paycheck for that last a couple of minutes on the year right there. So 503 00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:14.119 but you know, I'll you know, look, they've got a great program 504 00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:15.480 going, we've got a great thing going, and they's been, you know, 505 00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:19.759 been the guy that built that like that, so always awesome to have 506 00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.400 him on. All right, take our break, let's take our let's take 507 00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:24.480 our last break of the day. We're gonna come back. We'd love to 508 00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:28.519 take your calls on anything that you want to talk about. 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Come be a part of a winning 575 00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:24.800 team. The A Team apply online today at a team security dot net. 576 00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:32.320 Steve Rivera and Jacob Solids they have their Eye on the ball on Tucson Sports 577 00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:38.519 station Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Then welcome back to on the Ball here on 578 00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:42.760 Fox Sports fourteen fiftee. I'm Steve, You're Jay. We have fifteen minutes. 579 00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.360 You guys want to give us a call? Flud that's an interesting conversation, 580 00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:50.000 say right, that's yes, love that talking to Brian Holl of the 581 00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:52.880 Voulder Daily Camera. Tald us all about what's going on up with Colorado and 582 00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:58.199 you know the celebrity of Dion Sanders is there is the head coach up there 583 00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:00.039 and all the stuff that's going on and you know it sounds like he's kind 584 00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:04.440 of actually, you know, being a head football coach. Right, Yeah, 585 00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:07.679 we'll see what happens. I think if i'm I think I'm gonna bet 586 00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:08.519 it. I'm gonna go three and more than three and a half. Well, 587 00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:13.159 according to what's going to be posted with our podcast, you are taking 588 00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:15.559 the overcolor. You already put it. I'm already putting it in. So 589 00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:20.599 I just let everybody know. I think so, yeah, it'll be it'll 590 00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:22.719 be like three, it'll be three, and you can thinking it'll come on. 591 00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:24.239 It's gonna be fun to watch. It's could be three. It's gonna 592 00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:28.239 be fun to watch. And we have you and I have I have. 593 00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:30.599 You have under five and a half. You have under five and a half. 594 00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:34.920 I've got over five and a half on Arizona, and I've already conceded 595 00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:37.679 that's gonna lose. Are you already conceded that's gonna do you think? But 596 00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:42.360 but are you're gonna put You're gonna put it already half that they're gonna go 597 00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.559 six at least I have it. Yeah, Oh okay, okay, yeah, 598 00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:47.320 I have that already. Well, I think that's a I think it's 599 00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:51.519 it's it's the same kind of kind of bet. You need to come up 600 00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:54.000 with an Oregon State win or a Washington State win, right or are you 601 00:39:54.079 --> 00:40:01.960 selwin or are you cell awin or missip statement? All right, you were 602 00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:07.440 having that conversation around the table today my my Wednesday lunch talking about that game, 603 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:09.280 you know, because one of the guy said, I think they're gonna 604 00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:13.199 be Missisippi State, and I said, wait a minute, man, you 605 00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:15.800 can't be counting that game as a win right now. You know, if 606 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:20.679 you're going to use the same material or same criteria sold out place, it's 607 00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:23.639 gonna be crazy. You didn't you struggled against him last year. Nothing's really 608 00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:27.920 changed. It's a bias, you know, it's already a built in bias. 609 00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:31.440 Yes, it is. It is, and I think that you know, 610 00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:36.840 look, they're obviously excited about their football team over their Missister States. 611 00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:39.440 Forty thousand season tickets sold in the town that only has twenty four thousand people 612 00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:44.840 in it. I mean, we had that conversation, but you know, 613 00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:50.920 you have to you have to understand that they're pretty excited and their team. 614 00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:53.159 You know, they're there, Arizona's coming in and they think we got these 615 00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:55.519 guys. You know, they're five and seven. Least, if we beat 616 00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:58.840 the hell out of them at their place, that's year we shouldn't be losing 617 00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:00.920 to this. Sure, of course it's gonna be physical. Yeah, the 618 00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:07.360 travel exactly, all that. All that we'll see. We'll see how they 619 00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:09.960 do against NAU and then we'll see the second game. Yeah, no, 620 00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:15.800 I think that I think everyone can win that game. But I'm not marking 621 00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:21.199 it down. No, I need reasonable reasonable mind. I'm not saying you 622 00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:27.440 are, wouldn't say no, Yeah, but the reasonable mind against the other 623 00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:30.639 teams that you think they have a chance to Yeah, yeah, the Oregon 624 00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:34.760 States, possibly, the Washington States possibly. Yeah, those are all possible 625 00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:37.320 wins, but there's a whole bunch of that. You're not going to sit 626 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.000 here and say they're winning that game exactly. Like with Colorado. You look 627 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:45.599 at their schedule and I think they can pull off three four four, three 628 00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:49.639 for sure, but maybe not four. But that's why Vegas makes the money. 629 00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:52.639 That's why they make the money, and we don't exactly. No, 630 00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:57.960 So I think I think that if nothing else steve it, it's gonna make 631 00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:01.840 this entire season pretty fun and interesting. Sure, no, it will, 632 00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:07.519 you know, I really think it is because there's got there's so many games 633 00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:09.760 that you're gonna walk in or you're you're gonna turn the TV on or whatever, 634 00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:14.199 and you you do not know what's gonna happen. Yeah. No, 635 00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:15.559 that's why your pool is gonna be a lot of fun, because you don't 636 00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:20.280 know what's gonna happen exactly. Yeah. Uh and and well, and we 637 00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:22.679 have that bet, and we have the Washington Bet, which I don't I 638 00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.679 think you might be reading too much into the loss of their running back, 639 00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:30.719 right, Yeah, you know, I mean, he wasn't like, you 640 00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:35.119 know, how've been Trophy candidate or anything like that. But you know, 641 00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.320 anytime you lose a guy that you're expecting, that you're expecting is going to 642 00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:42.320 start for you, that's not very good. That's not very good. Yeah, 643 00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:45.920 okay, So I don't know. I just think it's a I just 644 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:50.280 think it's I think it's gonna make for a very very interesting season for us. 645 00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:52.000 Yeah. Okay, again, if you guys want to call him, 646 00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:54.559 please do five two o four one six five three zero two Are normal? 647 00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:59.960 People? Are normal? Oh geez, what did I say? Zero four 648 00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:14.400 six four number one? Okay, Steve, can you tell and I'm wondering 649 00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:19.840 how many games Colorado's gonna win. This is what I think. Okay, 650 00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:22.360 uh so if you have no colin, some of our colors are gone, 651 00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:27.159 and Nico's on the road to wherever he's gone to. New Jersey. Said 652 00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:31.400 then, and Howard's kind of put put him put himself in a sabbatic Remember 653 00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:35.840 he said after he cussed or didn't cuss. Oh yeah, he said, 654 00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:37.920 I'll be out for a while. I'll be out for a while. Yeah 655 00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:42.760 yeah, yeah, he deserted a while. We mean, Howard, boy 656 00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:45.039 Howard. Because the Sons are Sons are gonna be coming back. I think 657 00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:50.559 gonna be a game yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, And they're not gonna 658 00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:52.320 win it, but Gon be pretty good. Why not? Why not? 659 00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:55.559 Still? I think the Golden State Warrior's gonna be back there. Yeah, 660 00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:59.599 you know, we have got a bit of a problem, right, And 661 00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:05.719 and then having a christ Paul you know whatnot the guy who had the Achilles 662 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:10.760 the shooter to watch the State guy Thompson. Yeah, Clay Thompson back for 663 00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:14.239 the full year. And he's been back, I know, but he was 664 00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:16.840 coming off the injury. He's had a full year in after the injury. 665 00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:21.119 Something you know a guy that you expect well, you know, well kind 666 00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:23.599 of you think might be kind of back to norm. Okay, let me 667 00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:28.559 ask you. We got a week before the NFL starts. Uh, give 668 00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:32.000 me a sleeper. I'm asking you because I know I won't pay attention to 669 00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:37.199 it. Give me a sleeper that isn't a favorite too? To win the 670 00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:44.960 turn When the super Bowl not a Buffalo City, not a Philadelphia, Philadelphia, 671 00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:49.519 there aren't there's only like four or five teams. Yeah, I'll go 672 00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:53.599 San Diego. Really yeah, really, I think Justin Herbert, you know, 673 00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:57.960 settling, and he's had a four years under his belt. I like 674 00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:01.960 him as a quarterback. Justin Spears will be really happy that he said either 675 00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:06.199 that he's gonna be upset that I said it. I'm the Kissa, but 676 00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:08.599 I'm gonna I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say san Diego. That's that's a 677 00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:10.760 weird pick, but it's a good pick. I like san Diego. I 678 00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:15.079 like the un too, like good you know, look and play good. 679 00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:19.559 Yeah, you can play tough in the Power Blue. But I think San 680 00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:23.719 Diego could be a team that could do about I'm not I'm not a tongue 681 00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:28.159 of a little believer. I'm just not. I think he's good enough to 682 00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:30.119 be a starting quarterback, but I don't know if he's good enough to get 683 00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:34.159 you to the promised land. Dallas the injury prone. You know, he 684 00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:37.960 took some he took some beatings. Dak Prescott is not the guy who's gonna 685 00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:38.880 get you there. So I don't think I don't like Dallas all that. 686 00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:45.039 No, I don't even I think I think, uh, what's his name, 687 00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:52.519 Uh, Aaron Rodgers? Don't he's too old and he's not He's not 688 00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:55.239 Tom Brady. So let's see, you know how he gets frustrated during games, 689 00:45:55.280 --> 00:46:00.199 and he's gonna see a lot of that. It's gonna be a tough 690 00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:02.039 go. It's gonna be a tougher goal for him that I think he thinks. 691 00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:07.559 Yeah right, So so there, so I don't think he's the guy 692 00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:09.480 either. So I don't know. Let's see what this calor has to say. 693 00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:15.000 Higher on the arm on the ball? How's it going? This is 694 00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:21.920 Vic vic So hey, I wanted to ask you guys about culture change of 695 00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:27.280 the football teams. Okay, listening to McMillan yesterday and how hard it was 696 00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:30.599 to get over that hum how is it gonna be when Arizona gets the ball 697 00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:37.440 against sc with two minutes to go. You're talking football, right, talking 698 00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:44.320 football, two wits to go in they're down by fourteen, down by Okay, 699 00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:47.960 I'm gonna go based on what I saw. And this was late in 700 00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:51.280 the season, mind you. So I think that that this is kind of 701 00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:54.920 a direct right the poise and the confidence that James Delora had and the team 702 00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:59.079 had at the end of the UCLAGGA and they fell behind late, you know, 703 00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:01.679 they fell behind in the fourth quarter, they got the ball, went 704 00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:07.519 down and scored and they looked you know, they look confident, they looked 705 00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.960 in charge. They didn't panic in doing that. Now are they gonna do 706 00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:15.280 You think Jed has already changed the culture a little bit? Yeah, without 707 00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:19.119 question, without question. I think that's very parent to your point. But 708 00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:22.840 if you're talking about USC, there's still there's still so much to overcome with 709 00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:27.559 that. They got way better playing, Okay, just thought about anybody Oregon 710 00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:31.920 State just uh yeah, I mean you guys remember the Patriot years with Brady 711 00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:36.840 and how many times the announcer said, don't give him the ball to go? 712 00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:42.199 Yeah, I think I think Jane Delora can be that guy. He 713 00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:44.599 was that, but he was bad. Jane Delora too. There were a 714 00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:46.320 couple of times that they needed needed him to clutch up late, then he 715 00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:51.079 didn't. So we're gonna see I think. I think, well, here's 716 00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:53.840 here's what I think we'll find out a lot at Mississippi State. They're gonna 717 00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:55.840 be there. The crowd is gonna be all over him, the place is 718 00:47:55.840 --> 00:48:00.199 gonna be packed, They're gonna be excited. What How does he performed there? 719 00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:05.360 How does he look from a confidence standpoint? You know, is he 720 00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:07.360 in charge? Is he poised? All those things? We're gonna find some 721 00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:14.519 stuff out there. I think, and and Jay and Stephen and once again 722 00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.599 I'll point the question a different way. If he goes down and why he 723 00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:22.320 gets twenty five team AC for thirty and then we score on the next play, 724 00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:25.800 are we going to be able to stop Oregon State or see were coming 725 00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:30.960 back down that we don't know. It's like I said earlier this week or 726 00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:36.360 over the weekend, It's not gonna be whether Arizona scores enough. That's whether 727 00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:39.440 the Arizona's defense can keep them from scoring. Yeah, but Steve, you've 728 00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:46.079 said in a hundred times all the bad heartache and bad luck. There's definitely 729 00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:52.079 got to be a culture change. It's very apparent, no question. Jed 730 00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:54.119 has come in. If anything, if he's done anything, that's what he's 731 00:48:54.159 --> 00:49:00.960 done. And with talent, talent and its culture change without question. Yeah, 732 00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:07.159 you follow his team. The Sumlin era should have never happened. Every 733 00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:12.119 noo and then how do you get out of that mess? Come on, 734 00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:14.320 how do you get out of us? And Jed has done it, and 735 00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:15.679 well they've gotten out of it. I think they're out of it, not 736 00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:19.360 as a matter of do they have the players to go and compete. And 737 00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:22.880 I think it's taken a lot short time. It took Mike Stoops a whole 738 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:27.000 lot longer to get out of that than than than took uh, you know, 739 00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:29.679 coming out of the Macivic years. And it has taken dead because you 740 00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:34.679 saw last year, even in games that they lost, that they were still 741 00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:38.039 way better, you know, than you would expect them to be after two 742 00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:42.400 years as low as it got, because I think you can argue that the 743 00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:46.639 Sumlin years were way lower than the Mackivic years. I agree with yeah, 744 00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:50.960 yeah, but I just wild, like I said, I want to have 745 00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:54.400 that confidence that they're going to be that that team that, like, you 746 00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:58.639 know, like I said, those Patre years, you knew, you just 747 00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:00.719 knew you were they were gonna win if they got the ball back, right. 748 00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:04.639 And Well, with that said, I think that you think that with 749 00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:07.480 Delora and his his people that he has, that you like your chances? 750 00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:12.239 There you go, yeah, did you like their chances because they have they 751 00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:15.119 have dudes. Now they have dudes. The running back situation, the wide 752 00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:21.440 receivers, the lines are better, they have dudes to score the questions. 753 00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:23.239 I mean, I was watching what you guys always say, and I saw 754 00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:28.320 the five offensive lineman on the sideline Saturday, and I'm like, man, 755 00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:32.840 we've never we've had a bunch of five nine guys in there before exactly exactly. 756 00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:37.960 All right, beck Hey, thanks so much, take care, all 757 00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:43.239 right, go Dodger. You know so many things I think, you know, 758 00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:45.679 I think, I think if you're talking culture teams, that has happened. 759 00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:49.039 It's clearly no question, right question. You see guys out there, 760 00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:51.840 they got bouncing their step. You don't feel like walking, you know, 761 00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:53.119 you don't. You don't look like a team that's walking in the state and 762 00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:57.880 allowed to get its ask. No, you know, guys. You know, 763 00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:00.840 guys are they seem excited. The coach and staff seems together. That 764 00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:05.000 piece of it has happened. But now there's a lot of catch up still 765 00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:09.239 going on from a talent standpoint, and you know, maybe Jed can change 766 00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:15.880 this too, but there's almost like a wall. There's only Arizona is only 767 00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:21.280 going to get this talented because they're just not gonna get that next guy that 768 00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:24.519 is going to USC and Alabama and ohise there. You know, so they 769 00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:29.639 got but maybe the coaching staff doesn't believe that, and they you know, 770 00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:31.480 they keep pulling in guys. Look, they've pulled in some guys that you 771 00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:36.519 know, some of those teams wanted. You know, a kid dec committed 772 00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:38.760 from Alabama to come to Arizona. You know, the kid transferred from you 773 00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:44.039 know, just and Flow transferred from Oregon. They beat Oregon and USC on 774 00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:46.519 some guys. You know, so maybe they will get some of those guys. 775 00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:51.519 I don't know that you're gonna get him in the quantity that you know 776 00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:53.719 that other schools get those. I don't think Arizona will ever get those guys 777 00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:59.400 those numbers. I think they're moving to the Big twelve. It's a better 778 00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:02.320 move for them because they're on the The playing field is a lot more level. 779 00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:06.480 Yes, in the back, the melt is more of a hill than 780 00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:09.960 And that's the thing that I've been I've been preaching is that the playing field, 781 00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:13.800 Uh, you know, in the Big twelve is way more level. 782 00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:17.320 There's not a usc there's not an Oregon, not even Washington there. You 783 00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:22.000 know, you you can you can recruit against those guys, and so you 784 00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:27.000 know you, I think you do have a better chance to compete in the 785 00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:30.119 Big twelve. Let me so something we didn't talk about in breaking news. 786 00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:35.360 Who's the worst by the athletics estimation, the worst football team in the country. 787 00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:44.000 Uh, you mean like power five are just works just worst of one 788 00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:49.400 hundred and thirty teams. I don't know us rights. Yeah, I try 789 00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:52.159 to get done recorded that he'd come on the show. Obviously too busy, 790 00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:58.519 but he starts this weekend. Yeah. Yeah, so he's going to cruises. 791 00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:00.360 Said they think he's and they have a lot of dudes from Arizona. 792 00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:04.119 Right, they got like nine or something like that. Right, it's a 793 00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:07.239 big number. Right, it's a big We'll see how they Yeah, no, 794 00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:08.639 I you know, I'll be paying attention to that one that should that 795 00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:13.239 should be fun, that it really should be fun. Did you see what 796 00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:16.639 Don Brown's doing over as a head coach right as opposed to a defensive coordinator. 797 00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:19.519 A lot of work over there, though, Man, they got a 798 00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:22.519 lot of work to do at at you minutes. So no this uh hey 799 00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:25.079 man, we're getting closer. We're a day closer, Steve, We're a 800 00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:30.800 day closer to fun. Thank you to Brian how Bolder, Daily Camera. 801 00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:32.719 Thank you, Dave Cosgrove. Good luck on the on the pitch, as 802 00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:36.960 they say. And we'll be back tomorrow with some great guests. Lamont Lovett, 803 00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:38.199 Joe Turner is going to be joining us tomorrow, so be sure to 804 00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:42.960 come back tomorrow. Thanks, thanks for being here. Believe that just