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Welcome to Guardians Weekly on the Cleveland
Guardians Radio Network. Guardians Weekly is front

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everyone, welcome to Guardians Weekly.
Jim Rosenhouse along with you from Angel Stadium

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in Anaheim, California, where the
Guardians are on a West coast road swing.

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They're playing four here in Anaheim and
then they head up the coast and

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they'll play the Giants the first of
next weekn And this is a week long

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road trip that certainly can be challenging
as they try and maintain that flicker of

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hope in the American League Central Division
Chase, where a win on Friday night

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they remain six and a half back
of the Minnesota Twins heading into play on

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Saturday with only twenty one games remaining. So the schedule is starting to become

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a real issue in terms of the
amount of games left. But they hang

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in there and keep on showing up, and we'll see what happens over the

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weekend here with a night game in
Anaheim on Saturday, Night Day Baseball on

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Sunday, and then on to San
Francisco coming up in a little bit on

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our show. We will have the
Former Outstanding Pitchers segment of our show.

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Tom Candiotti will join us. He's
been on the road trip with us filling

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in for Tom Hamilton. But the
former knuckleballer in a sixteen year Major League

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vett has some fun stories, as
does Mark Langston, who is one of

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the radio voices for the Angels,
who finished his fine major league career as

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a Cleveland Indian, and he'll have
some great stories about his time in Cleveland.

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We'll also talk hitting with Guardians hitting
coach Chris Laika here from Jose Tana,

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one of the infielders for the Guardians, and also newly acquired relief pitcher

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Matt Moore. So a lot coming
up on our show, But first we

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checked in with Will Brennan earlier this
week. Brennan, he was part of

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a big day on Wednesday for the
Guardians, who had a tough series against

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the Twins back home. Earlier this
week. They lost the opener with a

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chance to cut the lead down to
four games on Monday Night twenty to six,

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and then the Twins backed that up
with a Tuesday Night eight to three

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wins, so that really made things
difficult for Cleveland. Here the rest of

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the way. But the Guardians did
salvage the game on Wednesday, and a

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big reason why Will Brennan had both
of the RBI base hits in a two

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to one win over the Twins.
He also had a really nice catch in

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left field, and he says,
it's always a nice feeling to contribute in

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a lot of ways to a big
win like the Guardians had on Wednesday.

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Yeah, what's up, Rosie.
Yeah, always a good day at the

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ballpark. You know, when the
culmination of things all go right for you

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at the yard, if you're gonna
leave happy with a win, it's all

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you can ask for. And when
you look at how things have been going

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here, you're finishing strong. And
obviously you were up here last year to

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get a taste of it, But
what have you learned as you've gone through

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an entire season now about this game
and having success consistently. This is the

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definitely the pinnacle of baseball, and
it's gonna beat you down, and so

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you just kind of have to be
able to flush the bad days and show

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up and try and put good days
together by stacking all the little things that

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you do and focus really on everything
that you can control, try and leave

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the results out of it and pick
your head up and see where you're at

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at the end of the year.
Definitely been a nice roller coaster of a

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of a season. So everything you
just said about individually, that could you

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apply that to the team too,
especially considering how the week went early.

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I think all of us have very
similar mindsets. That's you know why we're

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all kind of on the same team, trying to work as a as a

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single organism. You know, to
take one at the end of that series.

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It could have gone either way at
the end and left a really bad

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taste in our mouths, but you
know, be able to get one from

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the Twins. Just moving forward,
see what they do. And all we

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can can do is control how we
do against the Angels. So obviously an

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uphill battle. It's six game gap
with twenty two to go, so not

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mathematically by any means. Is this
thing over? And and how is the

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mindset in that clubhouse, especially after
yesterday? I meanthing again, We're just

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gonna after control we can can control. You know, the Wines will do

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their thing and we'll see if they
fold. I mean, we're gonna put

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pressure on no matter what we're gonna
play hard to the final out, you

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know, with with Tito as our
leader, that's kind of just been our

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DNA. We're gonna play hard and
see what happens. And you mentioned Tito,

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and obviously there's some some new veterans
here at Coole Calhoun. I know

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his name has come up a lot. What is he meant to this team

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as a younger player who's still going
through some things for the first time to

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see him come in here and what
are some of the things that he can

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do. Yeah, he's been amazing
to come in and kind of settle into

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that that veteran role. You know, age is truly just number obviously because

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he's out here doing it and doing
it at a really high level. I

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think we're you know, we got
really lucky to snag him this late in

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the season. I couldn't believe that
he wasn't on a big league team,

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you know, earlier in the season. So I really really fortunate to have

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him and kind of the prowess that
he brings on end off the field.

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But yeah, he's just one of
those special players. It's been around for

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a long time, about three ten
years. And if you can't learn from

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that guy, then you're knocking really
going to be able to learn from anybody.

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Will nice going yesterday, good luck
the rest of the way. Thank

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you, awesome, Thanks Rosy,
appreciate you. It's Will Brennan who's really

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making a strong push here down the
stretch to finish his season strong, and

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he had a big week this week
as he is red hot at the plate

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Fort Cleveland. We'll take a break
and then come back and hear from young

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infielder Jose Tana and veteran reliever Matt
Moore. That's next after this. Now

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the pinch Brennan ground sit through the
whole base hit in the left center Cleveland

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takes so one nothing lea. So
Will Brennan a two strength single the other

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way, knocking in his thirty seventh. Here's the three two. He swings

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and aligns it right center field,
a base hit that'll score him Menez easily.

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Brennan's gonna try for two. Here
comes the throne, not in time.

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A double for Brennan, who has
driven in both runs and the Guardians

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now lead it to nothing. Now
the one too swung on line toward the

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gamp in life center but not deep
coming on diving and making the catches.

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Will Brandon boy, Will Brendan,
whether it's right field, lift field,

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he is an outstanding out fielder.
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Two down, one nothing, Blue
chase for the number nine hitter. The

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kid Jose teena left handed batter at
short today and the pitch Tina with a

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line right pace shit up the middle, his first major league hit, his

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first major league arbi and the scores
Loriano and we've got a one one game.

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How about that? Jose Tina,
another one of those highly thought of

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middle infield prospects, has spent the
year in double A Akron and he wrote

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date two out line drive single to
center to score Loriano. Here's the pitch

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swung on line drive face h hint
to right field. That'll tie it racing

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for third as nailer. He's in
easily hen Tina comes through tie game at

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six. Welcome back to Guardian's weekly
Rosenhouse. Back with you from Angels Stadium

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in Anaheim, Or The Guardians are
in the midst of a four game series

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with the Angels. Well. Jose
Tena received a September call up, and

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he has been with the ball club. The young infielder has done some nice

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work since being called up at the
beginning of the month. In fact,

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he had an extra inning game tying
bass hit last weekend against the Rays that

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was an extra innings and it led
to a win over Tampa Bay, and

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he joined us along with translator Aggie
Rivero, to talk about how he's adjusted

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so far to the major league level. Think what has helped me is that

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I keep my focus on the first
picture of the game, whether I'm playing

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or not. I keep that focus
from then because I'm aware and I'm working

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the assumption that the manager is going
to call me at anytime. And on

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Saturday night, you're in the on
deck circle, but it looked like you

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might be pinch hit for and then
decisions made to let you take your at

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bat and you come through with an
RBI single at time is the game?

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Take us through the emotions there of
what was happening before you even got to

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the plate, and how prepared you
were to come through call my visit.

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But the Brano Yaguando week. Yeah, just like I mentioned before, the

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keys to being focused throughout, you
know, in the gaming. When I

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saw that that happened that they put
me in the game, I feel like

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I narrowed down even one of my
focus and I do that great analysis or

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what they've been doing with the previous
hitters, and they were just attacking them

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with the change up, and that's
what I was looking for. So we

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talked a lot about hitting. Obviously
that's a big key, but defensively you're

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moving around a little bit. How
challenging has that been and how prepared were

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you to be in that spot where
you wouldn't just focus on one position.

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When you got to the major leagues, the NAM welcome. I feel very

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lucky that they're considered in different positions. So every time it happens, I

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just tried to do like the best
that I can and and I translate that

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into preparing before the games and trying
to take reps in all the three positions

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that I've been playing so far.
I would say it spent most of your

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year at Double A Akron, one
day at Columbus, and then you get

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a chance to make your major league
debut or at least get called up to

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the big leagues. How surprising was
that? And what was that feeling like

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to finally reach a goal that I'm
sure you had for a while? But

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how okay? Yeah, I mean
the focus was to do my best in

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Double A and try to learn as
much as I could. You know,

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I wasn't expecting to be called up
that quickly to Triple AH, and I

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felt like, you know, if
they called me to Thriple A, maybe

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I have a chance late in September
to be called up. But everything went

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super fast, and I'm really happy
it happened. But I was really focused

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to just do and learn what I
was at the moment. And now you

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do end up being a September call
up. Surprised at that? Or did

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you feel that you put yourself in
a real nice position got out opens?

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Okay? Yeah, I mean I
felt like I was able to put a

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good job while I was here,
so I was kind of like expecting that

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in September we'll have another call up, and and I was away was getting

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some feedback from the coaches on there
that reaffirmed that somehow I will be called

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up in September as well. And
you're a middle infielder in an organization that

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has a lot of good young middle
infielders. Gabriel Arrius, Brian Rokio.

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How do you approach that day to
day when when you know there's really good

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competition there and you're trying to be
a part of that. I feel this

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is just met of back going back
to being focused. You know, I

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know they're really gooding fielders and there's
nothing that can control. So he just

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met of being able to control what
I can do and then let the organization

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make the decisions. Jose Aggie,
thank you for the time. Thank you,

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Dan, thank you appreciate it.
That's young infielder Jose Tana. So

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we go from one of the youngest
players on the team to a savvy veteran

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who has just recently acquired. Matt
Moore, the left handed relief pitcher who

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has done some nice work early on
in his Cleveland career so far. He

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was one of three waiver wire additions
claimed from the Angel's roster last week by

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the Guardians to help boaster that bullpen
down the stretch. He's a veteran pitcher,

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has been through a few transactions throughout
his career, and he says it's

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always a hectic time when you're changing
teams during the season. Yeah, it's

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been quick. I haven't been a
part of anything like this, and I

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don't really remember if I've ever seen, you know, waiver claims like that

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on you know, free agents that
that are performing well. But it's here

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and nor there, you know,
looking at it now where we have a

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chance to, you know, do
something special and squeak in the squeak in

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there with a division title. You
know, it starts tonight. And what's

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your immediate reaction when you find out
you've been claimed by a team? What

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do you look at that's that's most
important to you from that new team.

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I don't know if I really think
about it like that. It's just more

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of a hey, this is where
you know, I'm gonna go start pulling

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on the end of the rope with
these guys, you know, and try

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to fit in and you know wherever
I can. When you look at trying

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to fit any mention at players that
you knew here, coaches that you knew

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here. Was there much familiarity for
you at all? And if you have

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or know, how do you catch
up quickly and really feel like you're a

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part of it. I think just
getting in the games. You know,

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I didn't know very many people.
I knew Days Santos from Philly and twenty

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one and I played with Cole last
year in Texas and just been buddies for

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a while now, you know,
but haven't played against these guys you know

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on and off, you know.
I think it's just a matter of getting

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in the game. You know you'll
fit in that way and kind of get

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into get into the scene, and
you know in your stripe, so to

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speak, Matt, you'll hear your
role. You work out of the pen.

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Now, we saw you earlier in
your career and you were a top

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flight starting pitcher, and explain how
that adjustment has gone for you working out

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of the bullpen after spending the majority
of your career in a rotation. Yeah,

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I think, you know, last
year was probably the biggest learning curve

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of how to get myself ready to
throw. I think as a starter you're

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usually look at it maybe an hour
an hour and a half before the game

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starts. You kind of start your
your routine, and you know, if

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you're to come in somewhere in the
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of the game, you don't have
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I think just in general, last
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curve for me to learn how to
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year it's a little bit more of
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not doing as many things, you
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do, and maybe adding a couple
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you know, of the season,
getting to know these guys a little bit,

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get to see about how they go
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little bit too from an enjoyment standpoint
that do you like one or the other

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better? I don't know if I
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I mean, I know, you
know, seven eight years ago, it

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was a little bit different of a
pitching scene. You know, we're now,

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you know, starters a lot more
across the league or pitching you know,

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for strikeouts, and I never was
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so I just think it's it's yeah, it's I don't know if I

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like it more or less, but
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days you're available, and that that
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little bit more alive throughout the day
as opposed to like, hey, I'm

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not you know, I'm not participating
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been it's been fun for that.
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big part of this game. Any
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reliever in terms of keeping yourself available
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felt probably slightly better. I mean, this year is a little different.

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I had about six weeks on the
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arm, you know, should be
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maybe forty five innings or so.
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only throw one inning the next day, I feel almost as good as I

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did the day before. Two innings
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next day. But you know,
if you keep it to kind of one

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inning stints and you know, don't
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a week, I think that's that's
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can handle. You know, you're
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for maybe twenty pitches or so,
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So it's you know, I'm built
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starting. Well. Best of luck
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Guardians. Thanks Loft for coming,
but I appreciate it. Thank you.

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That's beteran relief pitcher Matt Moore,
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bullpen for the Guardians in a very
short period of time. Well, we'll

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switch from the mound to the batter's
box and talk hitting with Chris Falco when

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we come back after this on the
Cleveland Clinic Guardians Radio Network. Now,

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Matt Moore trying to deliver the pitch
got him swinging him up high, changeup.

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I what a job by Matt Moore. Yes, he does give up

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the game tying homer, but the
Twins had minute second and third with one

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out and didn't score after that.
It's the third beginning tonight that Minnesota has

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had a runner at third with less
than two down and didn't get that run

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home. Jim Rosenow's back with you, from Angels Stadium and Annaheim. We

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welcome you back in the Guardians Weekly. Thanks so much for tuning in,

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and we're gonna talk some hitting now
with Chris Flaka, the Guardians hitting coach,

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and a lot of changes to the
roster throughout the season this year and

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right now, the Guardians in September
see never a pretty good mix of young

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players and some veterans as they had
down the stretch, and Chris says they

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like the koy the club has handled
the challenges that they've had to face over

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the course of a long season.
You know, I'm I'm really really proud

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of the way of these guys have
gone about this year and then especially you

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know going into this last month.
You know, some guys getting opportunities and

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seeing you know, areas get to
play every day, like you talked about,

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you know, bow Naylor getting in
there. You know, just seeing

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seeing guys have the confidence that knowing
you know, good, bad and different,

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that their name is going to be
in the lineup every day. I

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think that that that breeds some confidence
for us, but it also breeds confidence

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for them. And are there some
mechanical things that that you've seen them grow

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in that's allowed them to have more
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I think they're there. There's always
going to be things to work on with

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these guys, and you know,
our our team does such a great job

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with providing us the resources. And
you know, I think for Bo,

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you know, some of the stuff, you know, controlling the strike zone,

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managing the top of the zone.
We've seen things tick up with that.

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And you know, without getting away
from his strengths, he's he's been

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able to cover some holes and you
know areas you know, getting in there

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and starting to play consistently. We're
seeing the impact that we know he had,

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you know, with him driving the
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know, guys are guys are you
know, making the adjustments and doing a

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good job just trying to you know, win as we develop right now.

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I thought it was interesting because at
Arius Nailer rookies, so it's different for

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them than it would be for Stephen
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What are the challenges that he goes
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early on, just like last year

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with him, you know, they're
they're still the growing pains, but you

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know, you're seeing Steven, you
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seeing a lot more consistency of contact
out of him. You know, he's

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starting to impact the ball harder on
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the things that we're looking for,
you know, but that takes that takes

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time. You know, he's coming
up on twelve hundred at bats in the

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big leagues over the last two years, so you know, it's not a

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you know, you get here and
the pizza's done. These guys are still

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working on things while they're here,
and you know, it takes time and

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we have to be patient with that. But you know, I think the

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future is bright with a lot of
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and a younger veteran, Josh Naylor, has come back to the lineup

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from entry. What type of impact
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but for the rest of the lineup. You know, I think I

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think it's huge having Josh. You
know, it's the it's a shot in

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the arm for us knowing that he's
in the lineup. But I think having

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him in the lineup makes Jose better. You know, having that guy be

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able to hit behind you and you
know Coole Calhoun, the the the bats

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he's put together since he's been here. You know, I know we're talking

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about Josh and you know he's really
evolved. You know, he's turning into

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the player that we all all know
he he can be. You know,

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building off the year that he had
last year. You know, kudos to

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him, especially with the way the
year started for him and him grinding through

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some of those adversities and hitting the
ball hard, not getting any results from

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it, to to not deviate and
stay the course like he did, and

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you know he's he's reaping those rewards
right now. Your reference Cole Calhoun,

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and unusual to see if veteran be
able to come in and have this type

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of impact on a team at this
stage of the season. I think,

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you know, he's unique and you
know everything that we heard about him was

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just the ultimate teammate. You know, we've seen him playing you know,

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across the lines and have loved the
makeup, loved the player. So you

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know, for him to step in
here day one, you know, he

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was mentoring these guys from the start, going out there handling his own business.

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So you know he's been he's been
out standing for us. You oversee

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a roster of hitters and it's such
an important part of your life. But

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you've had a great life experience here
the last two weeks. Tell us about

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being a dad for the first time. It's amazing, you know, a

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little little Olivia. It's been you
know, ten days now, you know

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it's it's the best job in the
world. I thought being a major league

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hitting coach with the best job.
But this is this is for our surpasses

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that. You know, it's tough
being dad from FaceTime right now and being

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away, but you know, hopefully
we get back from the West, get

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her up here and be able to
spend more time with them. Great stuff,

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Chris, thanks for the time.
Thank you appreciate it. That's hitting

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coach Chris Blaka, and he has
had an ever changing roster this year,

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but doing some good work to get
everybody pointed in the right direction. Stay

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with us. We'll take our final
time out and then come back with Tom

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Candiotti and Mark Langston, two pitchers
who had fine major league careers, and

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we talked to them about a variety
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Weekly. We're joined now by Tom
Candiotti, who has joined us on the

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road swing here in Anaheim and then
San Francisco. And for those with long

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memories of the days back in the
late eighties and early nineties and then the

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very end at the end of the
nineties, the Candy Man had a nice

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little run of success with Cleveland seven
years total out of the sixteen you played

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in the big leagues. And when
you get around the ball club again Cleveland,

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I know the name is different,
but the franchise is the same.

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What's it like for you to come
back and be around it. You know,

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it's so great to be involved again, you know, with the now

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Guardians, and you know, and
and even coming here to do the games

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and seeing guys that that I played
with, Guys like Sandy Alamar, guys

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like Tito we were all teammates together, and uh and and just being able

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to catch up with everybody and visit
and also, you know, ever since

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I left Cleveland, basically in my
career, I grew up in Cleveland,

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you know, as a major leaguer, and so regardless of what team I

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played for after that, I always
would check the box score and always kind

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of had them in the back of
my heart, you know that, you

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know, hoping they were going to
do well. And they had a good

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run some of those years. So
you play long enough, and a lot

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of years I'm sure run together.
But nineteen eighty eight you were teammates with

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Terry Franco his one year as a
player with Cleveland, and he was saying

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earlier in the day on Friday that
that was a fun team. And I

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know you're blow five hundred, but
what made that team a lot of fun

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in your mind? Well, I
mean, I think it was a team

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that was kind of growing up.
You know, we were in nineteen eighty

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seven. The Indians at that time
were really were favored. They were on

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the cover Sports Illustrated. Yet Joe
Carter at Corey Snyder and you're supposed to

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win, you know, the American
League and possibly the World Series. He

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had very very high expectations in nineteen
eighty seven and it went straight downward.

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That year had just nothing worked out. So in nineteen eighty eight, it

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was kind of a cautious approach.
You know, you had some new guys

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coming in. You had John Farrell
really joining the rotation at that time and

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was starting to come into his own. You know, Swindale was throwing the

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ball really well. I was throwing
the ball very well. You just seem

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like you your pitching staff was growing
at that point, and then also the

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hitters, and so it seemed like, okay, well this team that we

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had in eighty seven, with a
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I think we're pretty good. And
we started to we started to get

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improvements. Tim candy Otti joining us, he referenced the knuckleball. How did

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it come about for you? The
knuckleball that really extended your career for such

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a long time, it really did. I always threw the knuckleball since I

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was a little kid. It was
just a fun thing that my dad and

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I would do. I'd wait for
him to get home from work. The

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gloves would be on the driveway as
soon as he could even come into house.

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He had to play catch. So
at that time he had a knuckleball,

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and so I tried to throw it, you know, like he did.

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And so it was just kind of
a father's son thing. And then

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every once in a while I would
throw it in a game, just try.

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You know, I could do it
in the front lawn, listen,

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why can't I do it on the
mound? And would I would do it,

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you know, from little league to
Babe Ruth, to high school to

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end the college and even once in
a while in the minor leagues. And

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then you know, when once I
got to the major leagues, I was

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just really a conventional pitcher. I
had good control, I had a really

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good curveball, but I was a
little bit short on velocity. And if

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I needed to if I wanted to
stay in a major leagues, I needed

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something, something else, And so
I started to make a concerted effort to

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really develop my knuckleball. I'd gone
to uh, you know, in Triple

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A and US used it almost exclusively
in nineteen eighty five, and then went

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to winter ball and after that season, and it really started to come around

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for me. And then I was
signed by Joe Klein and the Indians when

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I was in winter ball as a
minor league free agent. And then I

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got to spring training in nineteen eighty
six, and lo and behold, I

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won sixteen games that year and completed
seventeen games and through I don't know how

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many innings, two hundred and seventy
innings, I don't know, something like

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that. So it just kind of
really took off for me, and it

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landed you a key role in a
major motion picture. One of my favorite

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baseball movies is sixty one, which
Billy Crystal made, depicting the home run

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chase with Maris and Mantle in the
nineteen sixty one season. And late in

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that year, Hoyt Wilhelm was trying
to shut down Roger Morris in a game

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in Baltimore, and you played the
knuckleballer Wilhelm. How did that come about?

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I had so much fun filming that. I mean, my role was

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a very minute role in that film, but it took about eight or nine

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days to film. And I got
a call one day from Billy Crystal,

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who I had met when I was
a member of the Dodgers, and he

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told me about this film that he
was going to do and they were trying

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to find a knuckleball picture to fill
the role of Hoyt Wilhelm, but nobody

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knows how to throw it. So
he asked if I would if I would

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do it, and I said,
sure, I'm a blast doing it,

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and so they give me my own
trailer. It was, I mean,

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it was. It was so much
fun. We filmed in the La Coliseum

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at that time, from dusk till
dawn, and I mean, just a

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great time. So you know,
at that game, I think it was

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Game one fifty four because that was
you know, with the expansion in nineteen

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sixty one with two hundred and sixty
two games, and you know, there's

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a whole deal with whether Roger Marris
is a home run record is gonna be

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legit or not. So anyway,
that as that season progressed for Marris and

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the Yankees, they go into Baltimore
in Game one fifty four and incomes Hoyt

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Wilhelm, and which was me and
I had to pitch, and Barry Pepper

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00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:37.079
was playing Roger Marris, and I'll
never forget this. You know. Billy

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wanted to make it as as realistic
as possible, so he told me to

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pitch like you pitch, and I
said, okay. And because I was

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just shortly out of baseball at that
time, so my arm was still in

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really good shape. And the first
ball I threw to the catcher, who

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was supposed to be gust Triandos,
it hit him right in the section where

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you can't say anything, got no
glove on it. He went down and

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so and then after that recovered and
Barry Pepper swung and missed sixteen straight times,

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you know, of course, and
then, uh, you know,

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Billy said, trying to throw him
something slow so we can hit it.

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We're running out of film here,
so I tried to throw him a slow

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00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:21.480
knuckleball, and it hit him right
in the ribs and he went down like

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he just got hit by Randy Johnson. And now his uniform is all dirty.

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So they had to go in and
do new makeup, get a new

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00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:32.480
uniform, as you could see,
it was really fun. But meeting all

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those guys and doing all that stuff
was a blast. We played Pepper every

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single night, you know, with
all those guys, so I got a

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00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:41.680
chance to meet him and I felt
like a movie star for about a week.

445
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For the record, those scenes came
out great. He hit him into

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00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:48.319
the wind right and then knocked it
down and that was a big deal.

447
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:52.720
And but just wonderful. And you
did great work as Hoyt Wilhelm. You're

448
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.440
doing great work. Is Tom Candyani
on our trip, So thank you.

449
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:59.960
Great to see you, and I'm
sure we'll enjoy the remainder of the trip.

450
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:02.359
Yeah, it's been a pleasure.
You make it easy for me here,

451
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believe me. And it's Tom Candiotti, the knuckleballer. And he had

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00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:11.079
a fine career. Sixteen years in
the major leagues. For Candiotti, the

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same number of years that Angels broadcaster
Mark Langston achieved in his major league career.

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A lot of the really good ones. You may remember him with the

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Angels, with Seattle, with Montreal, but the last season he played,

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00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:30.279
the final pitch he threw in the
major leagues was in a Cleveland Indians uniform

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with the nineteen ninety nine ball club, and when we caught up with him

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earlier on this visit to Anaheim,
he says it was one of the most

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memorable years in his career, you
know, truly one of the most funnest

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summers I've ever had in my entire
life. I went to spring training with

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San Diego, was released in the
vast last week of the season, came

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00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:53.680
home, which I lived here in
Anaheim. The Indians were opening the season

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00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:56.680
against the Angels. Here. My
Asian called me and said, hey,

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they want you to throw simulated game. So I ran out, came out

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00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:04.880
here. Dwight Gooden and I were
throwing a simulated game. And it was

466
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:07.880
very ironic because Doc and I both
came up the exact same year in nineteen

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eighty four, and here we were, you know, for me for certainly

468
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:14.960
the back end of my career,
kind of the back end of his career.

469
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:17.759
He pitched a little bit longer,
but out there throwing a simulated game.

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I guess the Indians liked it.
I ended up signing and by time

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they got off the road trip because
they sent me to Florida real quick to

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do rehab. By time they came
off the road trip, they made a

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call and said, you're come on
up to Cleveland. So spent the entire

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season. One of the funnest teams
I've ever played on my entire life.

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00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.920
It was so much fun and just
to see that team, and still to

476
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:43.000
this day, it's the best lineup
I had ever seen. I always explained

477
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to people. They always asked me, what's the best line up you've ever

478
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:47.640
had? I go, it's not
even close. That ninety nine Indian team

479
00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:51.799
that I played on, best lineup
up and down, an all start,

480
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:54.079
every position. They just mashed and
it was fun to watch him on a

481
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:59.079
nightly basis. And the vibe in
the city you came in as a visitor

482
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:04.880
before than Jacob's Field night and day
when you came back as a player for

483
00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:07.680
the Cleveland Indians. Oh, definitely. Once they put Jacob's Field into play,

484
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:10.960
it was. It really revived the
downtown area. It was fun to

485
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:14.960
come there and play. And in
fact, once I got there, I

486
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:20.000
still remember this. I would try
to get some cable TV for my apartment

487
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:22.559
that I was in and they said, sorry, it's going to be about

488
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:24.480
three weeks. I go, oh
man, three weeks, how about some

489
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:29.400
tickets to the Indians game, and
immediately guy goes, I'll be there in

490
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:31.160
ten minutes, and ten minutes later
the guys knocking on my door, looking

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00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:35.519
my cable up. Here's six tickets
for you. Because you couldn't get a

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00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:37.799
ticket to those games. Those games
were sold out. Every game every night

493
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:43.079
was sold out. Forty five thousand
people every night. It was the happening

494
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:45.440
place. And that team was so
much fun to be around, and the

495
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:50.519
city really embraced them, and they
had a you know when I got there,

496
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:53.079
there already had a really good run, and I think the people were

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00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:57.480
excited to just sit and watch the
talent on a nightly basis. I were

498
00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.640
going to take some fans down memory
Lane for off the field stuff. Music

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00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:05.079
and baseball have a great relationship.
You were part of that at a time

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00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:07.839
where there were some other musicians on
the team. Tell us about that.

501
00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:10.760
Yeah, in ninety nine, Richie
Sexon and I we used to bring our

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00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:15.199
guitars on the road and we'd sit
in the rooms and play the guitars and

503
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:16.559
goop around. I go, you
know, we should do like a charity

504
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:20.840
event. Let's throw something together,
and we literally did in like three weeks

505
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:24.280
we put together. I think that
we called Tribe Jam and so we did

506
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:28.880
it down in the flats, the
little amphitheater that was down there, and

507
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:30.800
we didn't know what was going to
happen. I think we charged like ten

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00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:35.239
dollars and all the money was going
to charity, and we had all the

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00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:38.000
participation of all everybody on the team. All the players show it up and

510
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:42.000
Jim told me had a guitar,
he couldn't play it, but he acted

511
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:45.079
like he's gonna play it, and
he ended up breaking it on stage.

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00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:47.119
Omar, who was a drummer,
actually got up and played the drums.

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00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:54.400
Dave Berba saying everybody participated and it
was really a fun time. Bernie Kozar

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00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:58.360
the very first one. He came
out and was firing footballs into the crowd

515
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:01.519
for the people. We packed the
place in and I literally in my mind,

516
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:05.719
going only here in this town,
with this team, could you pull

517
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:10.360
this off? Because that's how embraced
everybody was the team with the fans,

518
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:15.320
the fans with the team, and
to see these guys outside of what they

519
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:20.320
saw Jacobs Field, to see them
goofy and having fun on stage was really

520
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:22.519
a special time and I felt very
blessed we put that together. I did

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00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:28.199
it one more year in two thousand
and it was so much fun being part

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00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:32.480
of that and again to show the
fans a different side of these Indian players.

523
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:37.400
For the most part, players can't
pick when it's over as a player.

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00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:40.360
It turns out that's your last year. Looking back on it, you're

525
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:43.800
okay with that. That that's how
it ended. Sure. I went to

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00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:46.039
spring training two thousand with the Indians. In fact, I talked to my

527
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:50.840
buddy Chuck Finley into You said,
hey man, this is a great team.

528
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:52.880
You gotta come check it out.
And he ended up signing that spring

529
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:59.559
and I went to spring and it
just wasn't I wasn't having a great spring.

530
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:05.000
And I remember the last time I
was on the mound. We had

531
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:07.679
we'd seen our buddy Eddie Money the
night before Chuck and I and I just

532
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:12.880
remember it just the start that I
wasn't even started. Chuck actually started the

533
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.960
game, and then I came in
right after Chuck, and I think I

534
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:20.320
gave up five runs, some base
you know, some some little blue hits,

535
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:22.400
and then a three run home run
that I gave up, and I

536
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:24.719
just went it's time to take it
to the house, you know. So

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00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:29.599
you know, I was fighting that
for the last probably two or three years

538
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:30.760
of my career, but I felt
like that was the time. And I

539
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:34.280
remember John Hart goes, you know, you make this team. You don't

540
00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:36.880
have to performance spring training. I
go, I know, but I feeled

541
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:38.400
the tug of going home. My
daughter was going to be a freshman in

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00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:42.519
high school, so I felt like
I need to go protect the door with

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00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.000
her, you know now being a
freshman in high school. Great memories.

544
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:50.000
Thanks for sharing and enjoyed the game
tonight. My pleasure. Always great catching

545
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.239
up with you. Always fun talking
to the Indians baseball one of my funnest

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00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:57.000
summers ever. Man, that guy
could tell some stories. Mark Langston,

547
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:01.519
fine broadcaster now for the Angels and
a really good Major leaguer for sixteen years

548
00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:06.880
and one of the better pictures of
his era in the big leagues. Well,

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it's gonna do it for this edition
of Guardians Weekly, Thanks so much

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00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:15.119
for tuning in. Our engineer on
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00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:17.679
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