WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:08.439 You're listening to KFI on demand. Mike. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 2 00:00:09.279 --> 00:00:13.720 Hi Jesus, Hi Mike, thank you, love the show. And 3 00:00:13.839 --> 00:00:17.320 my question is, how do I truly come to know and believe you. 4 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:25.920 I was raised a Christian. I've tried and I've studied. I've tried many 5 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:28.920 times in my life. Maybe I just haven't tried hard enough. But I 6 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:33.039 have friends that I can see it in them. You know, they truly 7 00:00:33.079 --> 00:00:36.719 believe it, They truly know you. And a big reason why I'm asking 8 00:00:36.759 --> 00:00:42.039 is that I read a book called A Strong Father Strong Daughters once or twice 9 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:47.079 a year, and she really emphasizes that to be a good father, you 10 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:53.359 truly need to know God and your daughter needs to know that. And that's 11 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:57.640 my question to you, Jesus. Well, really that it's about application. 12 00:00:57.799 --> 00:01:00.679 There's a in logic. They these fancy terms for it, but I'm going 13 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:03.959 to try and make it as simple as possible. And that's if you have 14 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:07.760 a pencil in front of you, Mike, you can look at it and 15 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:12.000 you can go that's a pencil for that's a writing utensil. And that's the 16 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:17.879 first form of knowledge. The second form of knowledge would be accepting that a 17 00:01:17.920 --> 00:01:19.959 pencil is something you write with. So as the first now the second form, 18 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:23.560 the third form is actually picking up the pencil and writing with it. 19 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:26.799 If you don't pick up the pencil and write with it, it doesn't matter 20 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:30.519 if it's a com quat or if it's a pencil, right, because you're 21 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:37.840 not using it. And therefore the application is really what gives validity to the 22 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:41.799 pencil and makes it worth anything as a pencil is using it. And it's 23 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:45.120 the same with your faith. You can say all you want, you can 24 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:48.480 even read scripture, but if you're not applying it to your life where other 25 00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:51.760 people can see it, then it doesn't have the value and it doesn't become 26 00:01:51.840 --> 00:02:00.319 real. And the author's absolutely right that if you're not knowing, truly having 27 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:05.000 a relationship with God, people will know. I know the difference if you're 28 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:09.039 just kind of walking through it, and it's like any other relationship. Thankfully, 29 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:15.039 you have to spend time uh and do things that will uh, you 30 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:21.919 know, strengthen and encourage you in that relationship. You'll have to be alone, 31 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:28.360 you'll have to h to continue to explore and to learn, and all 32 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:30.719 those things are what you do in every other relationship in your life? Where 33 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:40.639 do you find the biggest struggle is for you, Mike, I guess to 34 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:47.680 answer, and honestly, I guess you put I put barriers if I wanted 35 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:52.080 to answer, well, I prefer that you do if you if if my 36 00:02:52.199 --> 00:02:55.120 vote counts, I always prefer honesty. Yeah, I work hard, I 37 00:02:55.199 --> 00:03:02.560 do good things, and but I guess I do well. You know why 38 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:09.439 people talk about working hard and being a good person because it's much much, 39 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:15.080 much easier to do than having a real relationship with God. And I know 40 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:20.120 the world values those things and they're good things. God values those things as 41 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:23.159 well. But those things are similar to looking at the pencil and acknowledging it's 42 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:28.000 a pencil. It's not the application that people assumes it assume. It is 43 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:31.520 really the part that a lot of people miss. And I don't blame you. 44 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:36.479 It's a difficult part to do that people throw around. Oh, you've 45 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:39.280 got to have a personal relationship with Jesus and you have to have a relationship 46 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:42.599 with God. It's one of the reasons why we do this show is because 47 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:50.879 that is the most difficult thing to truly explore and actualise in your life. 48 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:53.120 And Christians say it all the time, but they don't even know what they're 49 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:59.360 really saying sometimes what it means and having to apply that to your life is 50 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:02.240 going to be differenticult. It's it's very easy. It's like, you know 51 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:05.560 Christians that are so politically involved, and it's not that politics are bad, 52 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:10.639 but I oftentimes I feel like they're trying to change laws because it's much easier 53 00:04:10.639 --> 00:04:14.879 than changing a heart. And really you're called to change hearts in life and 54 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:17.079 not laws. But it's easier to get on a soapbox than it is to 55 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:23.480 really affect somebody's life with true change by sharing the Gospel with them. So 56 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:26.800 it's easier for you to work hard. It's easier for you to do good 57 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:31.600 things in those rabbit of your quotes than it is to find a way to 58 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:36.680 make God a part of your life that's truly tangible. So it's difficult. 59 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:41.199 M hm. So welcome to the rest of Christianity, my friend. So 60 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:46.879 now to start with you, I mean, how do you deal with every 61 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:51.000 relationship one you you had to preface with honesty? What kind of world is 62 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:55.319 that that you have to preface saying what I'm going to say now is honest. 63 00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:58.319 Everything else was garbage. But what I'm going to say now is honest, 64 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:03.360 So you have to it humors me that people feel in Scripture it says, 65 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:06.120 let your yes mean yes, and you no mean no. That's it. 66 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:11.439 Well, and I know that it becomes kind of just you know, 67 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:15.879 vernacular or wordsmithing. People say to be honest with you, or can I 68 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:19.439 be honest? I get that. But to prove a point, think of 69 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:24.000 it this way. I want you to stand before God, nake it truly 70 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:29.000 emotionally and think about everything you've done or things that you want to do, 71 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:30.560 or all these things that you want to be, places you want to grow, 72 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:35.839 goals that you have everything, and give them to God and focus on 73 00:05:35.879 --> 00:05:39.040 something and say, God, I want to work on this with you. 74 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:45.759 Just like with your child. When you think about doing something with your child, 75 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:48.399 whether it's baking in the kitchen or working in the garage, it's a 76 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:53.439 whole heck of a lot easier doing it without them. I mean, they 77 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:56.279 get messy, they may not do things right. You got to correct them 78 00:05:56.319 --> 00:06:00.920 all the time. It may take a lot longer to to build whatever you're 79 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:03.480 building in the garage, or to bake whatever you're baking in the kitchen by 80 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:08.959 yourself. And it's much easier for God to do all this by himself. 81 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:13.480 Trust me, he doesn't need humans helping him out. However, he loves 82 00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:16.920 you so much he wants you to be with him. So you got to 83 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:19.879 participate in things that you think, oh, well, God's going to take 84 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:23.879 care of that, because God wants you to be a part of the process. 85 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:28.279 So when you set goals, you stand before God in humility and you 86 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:30.680 say, these are the things I want to do in life. These are 87 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:32.360 my real goals. These are the ones that are so precious to me. 88 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:36.160 I'm scared of them. I want your help. I want and I'm gonna 89 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:44.240 read Scripture, God's love letter man and let it speak to you. Pray 90 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:48.079 over these things and really actualize God in your life rather than just saying, 91 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:51.079 well, I go to church sometimes and I do read and I love God 92 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:57.480 and all those things are great, and that's enough for the kingdom. But 93 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:00.480 really it's not enough to experience all that God has for you on this earth. 94 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:04.959 And it's it's you know, how do how do I get married? 95 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:10.600 Well, first you find a partner, Second, you fall in love with 96 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:15.600 said partner, Third you get married. It sounds simple, but really there's 97 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:17.519 much more to it. Right, You have to find somebody you connect with. 98 00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:23.439 Absolutely hard. Yeah, well you know people say that, but really 99 00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:28.519 technically it's not. It's hard to be unselfish is the problem. Marriage is 100 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:35.399 easy. What's difficult is uh is being unselfish. People are selfish by nature, 101 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:40.319 and it's hard for them to give when all they want to do is 102 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:46.759 receive, and that that makes marriage difficult. But really, two people in 103 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:50.240 the house, two people working together, two people building something always easier. 104 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:54.920 What happens is when those two people don't want to agree on things, and 105 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:59.480 those two people only care about themselves, that makes it difficult. Like imagine 106 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:03.240 trying to move table easier with two people, but not when two people want 107 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:07.639 to move it in two different directions. So it's again, it has to 108 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:13.199 do with where you sit yourself in that relationship and with God. You got 109 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:16.639 to start the relationship, and that means spending time. If you don't spend 110 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:18.720 time with your wife, if you don't spend time with your kids, you 111 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:20.879 won't have a relationship. You won't spend time with friends, you won't have 112 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:24.759 a relationship. That's why you know, people get married, they tend not 113 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:28.920 to have relationships because they think, oh, I can't juggle all this. 114 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:31.679 Now you have to put time into it, put time into God, and 115 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:37.039 you'll see that experience becoming more fruitful in your life. But you got to 116 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:41.559 make it real and you got to participate it in the same way you do 117 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:46.159 every other relationship. It's a little different. You can't see him. He's 118 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:48.799 not going to come over and watch the game necessarily. But when you do 119 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:52.279 watch the game, or you are working in the garage or in the kitchen, 120 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:56.360 or you are mowing the lawn, or you're going for a walk, 121 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:00.759 bring me with you, you know, think of you go, I'm just 122 00:09:00.799 --> 00:09:03.960 gonna I'm gonna open up scripture today and I want to pick a verse and 123 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:07.679 I'm going to read that verse, or I'm going to read that chapter preferably, 124 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:11.960 and then I'm going on my walk because I want to know what this, 125 00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:15.039 I want to think about this, or you know what. I want 126 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:18.759 to read a verse and then I'm going to watch the game and I want 127 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:22.519 to see if that verse ties into the game at all, or if ties 128 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:24.120 into my life at all. Make it be a part of your life. 129 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:31.320 That's the only way to really make it tangible and real, not just the 130 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:33.639 surface stuff I believe and all that. That's good and that gets you to 131 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:39.879 a certain point, but it won't, you know, it won't make it 132 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:43.720 truly fruitful. And my fear is that people spend all the time preparing for 133 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:48.399 the wedding and none of the time preparing for the marriage. And it's the 134 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:54.000 same with God. People have these great experiences and religious epiphanies and then they 135 00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:58.559 come to God and they're they're enthralled with it and they get saved and all 136 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:03.399 the emotion is there and then well, now what And I want you. 137 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:05.960 I want you to participate, and I want to be in your life that 138 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:09.399 way, Mike, And I know that it can happen because you wouldn't have 139 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:13.200 been You wouldn't have been strong enough to call if you weren't somebody who cared 140 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:22.200 and really wanted to make that change. Carrie, Welcome to the Jesus Christio. 141 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:26.799 Hello Jesus, hi hi. I have a question. It's regarding Second 142 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:33.360 Corinthians five ten. I know that that Jesus he died for all of us, 143 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:37.399 and we've been sankified, and it's nothing we can do to for our 144 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:39.720 salvation. Jesus did it all in the Cross, and I believe that. 145 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:45.759 But the five to ten where it says four we must all appear before the 146 00:10:45.879 --> 00:10:48.480 judgment set of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for 147 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:52.679 the things done. While in the body where that I need to understand that 148 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:56.279 a little bit more. Okay, sure, think of it this way. 149 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:01.600 And there are differences when people talk about judgment day and going on there at 150 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:07.240 the Beama seat or the throne of God and judgment. So I want to 151 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:11.600 give you a general idea that might help, and that is when you hear 152 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:16.080 about someone going to court, you hear about the original arraignment and all of 153 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:22.720 that that takes place, and then you hear about the essentially the punishment, 154 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:30.120 so you have the judgment is the first part and then the punishment comes second. 155 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:35.679 Right, Yes, well, similarly that everyone has to be judged because 156 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:39.840 that's righteous. Everyone has to be be judged. That is the right thing 157 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:46.879 to do. However, the in the putative stage or in the judgment stage, 158 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:50.159 is when I intercede for you and I step in, and at that 159 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:58.679 point is where the the payment is made. Although it was done on the 160 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:03.960 cross Us two thousand years ago. That's when it's, for lack of a 161 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:11.080 better term, cashed in. So imagine it this way, that if you're 162 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:18.000 going to court and you're going with your father, and your father says, 163 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:22.639 don't worry, I'm going to stand next to you. I know what you 164 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:24.919 did was wrong, but I also know that you learned from it, that 165 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:31.559 we've had this conversation. I know that the fine is going to be a 166 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:35.559 thousand dollars, one thousand dollars, and I'm going to be there to take 167 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:41.240 care of that. You go in, you receive the judgment, you receive 168 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:46.279 the penalty, and the penalty is one thousand dollars, and then your father 169 00:12:46.360 --> 00:12:50.639 comes in and pays one thousand dollars. The process of judgment is still a 170 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:54.440 noble one and still part of being just, and God is a just God, 171 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:58.679 so everyone will still have to be judged in that sense. The difference 172 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:03.960 will be that the that those that have come to Christ I will be standing 173 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:09.840 with as your attorney, if you will, and making the case and making 174 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:16.039 the payment. And therefore it still has to It's not like God waives it 175 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:20.279 any more than a judge knowing that his son has learned something, or the 176 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:22.600 father who knows that his son has learned something or any of these things, 177 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:28.039 wouldn't want you to go through the process because the process is important to the 178 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.080 understanding of what's right and what's not right as well. So it all kind 179 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:37.200 of goes together, but it doesn't mean that they're there. The punishment is 180 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:41.519 going to be put in there because the punishment was taken on by me. 181 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:48.600 So that's why there's still a judgment phase. But as far as the the 182 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:58.399 actualized phase of being punished is consumed by me. For those who are saved, 183 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:03.799 Stan, welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Thank you very much for 184 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:07.440 speaking with me. My pleasure. How can I help you? I'm in 185 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:13.480 turmoil. I have a conundrum in my perception and understanding of your father and 186 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:18.320 our father and the way I was taught as a child, going through confirmation, 187 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:24.679 reading the Bible and questioning the clergy as to what I read, and 188 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:31.519 it's the concern is a diabet, our diap complete opposite perception of how God 189 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:35.919 is described as I read the Bible in one passage and all loving, all 190 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:41.200 knowing, all seeing, God that wishes love for us to become a member 191 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:46.000 of his flock. Another passage, a vengeful, wrathful, hateful, jealous 192 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:52.440 God who lays waste to his enemies, and who we must fear so many 193 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:56.080 sermons of you know, fearing the wrath of God if we don't do as 194 00:14:56.120 --> 00:15:03.720 we're instructed and taught. And I find those two theologies diametrically opposed to each 195 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:07.000 other. All can and all knowing, all seeing, all loving God suffer 196 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:13.279 from the same frailties I perceive as negative frailties a man, hate, lost, 197 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:16.919 jealousy, fear, and yet at the same time be all knowing and 198 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:24.679 all loving. And I've never been able to rectify those two concepts. And 199 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:28.840 clergy I spoke to as going through my confirmation classes, all they would do 200 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:33.159 is get defensive, upset and attacking. Is everything but a heretic for daring 201 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:37.720 to question the mind of God. Yeah, I don't question the mind of 202 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:43.840 God. I questioned the description of God in which God is He? Do 203 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:48.000 I have to fear and worships an entity that that I see as less than 204 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:54.600 God? Like with all these human frailties and emotions that we try to strive 205 00:15:54.720 --> 00:16:00.799 to get rid of and to control in our lives, it's frustrated when God 206 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:03.639 creates you with a brain, and then the church says, what do you 207 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:07.200 mind hanging that on the outside of the door. Yeah, exactly, I 208 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:11.320 know. And that's and that's not the church. I say the church for 209 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:15.480 understanding, but really it's individuals within the church, just like anywhere else. 210 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:22.320 And it's unfortunate because because those questions that you have are legitimate, and Scripture 211 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:26.039 says to test all things, hold fast to that which is good, and 212 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:29.519 there's no way of doing that without putting God in that equation some way. 213 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:33.080 Now, what I'm not saying is to test God, or am I saying 214 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:36.480 that once you have an understanding of God, that you should sit there and 215 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:42.159 question the authority of God, or the purpose of God, or the direction 216 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:45.399 of God, or the will of God, any of these things. So 217 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:52.639 when you look at God, unfortunately people tend to make God a bigger them. 218 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:56.600 It's like, well, God, yeah, that's good, that's what 219 00:16:56.759 --> 00:17:00.360 just seems to decide that, well, he's nothing more than a ma with 220 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:03.759 you know, ultimate power, and yet all the frailties and weaknesses, which 221 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:07.920 makes no sense. Okay, So applying terms can be a problem here. 222 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:12.920 So let's look at applying terms. Is it sad when if you hear that 223 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:19.039 somebody has lost their sight, they're now blind on the surface. Yet yeah, 224 00:17:19.079 --> 00:17:22.880 on the surface, it's normal to say, oh, that's a privation. 225 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:26.000 Yes, it's something that they should have and they lost it, and 226 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:32.039 that's sad. But if I said that the rock is without sight, that's 227 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:36.279 not sad, right, because the rock doesn't have sight, never had sight, 228 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:40.839 it's not sighted. It's completely different to say a rock is without sight 229 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:45.160 and a human is without sight. Yet it's the same term. So applying 230 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:49.160 applying it differently, the term becomes different. And a lot of people don't 231 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:55.799 understand that with God, that the term like jealous. For human it's a 232 00:17:55.839 --> 00:18:00.279 sin and it's wrong. However, for God it's not. Because God read 233 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:06.880 it all things everything does belong to God. Therefore the improper usage or representation 234 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:11.720 of those things, it's right and just for God to get jealous, but 235 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:15.720 not for anyone else. So can't you can't apply the human term to God 236 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:19.079 and say, okay, God is now falling into the category that God himself 237 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:23.480 says, you shouldn't be jealous or love is patient, love is kind, 238 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:26.319 It is not a boastful, it is not jealous, and you start going 239 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:29.920 down these things and you're saying, well, one scripture says this, and 240 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:33.440 one scripture says that. No, the same way I can say that, 241 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:37.720 Stan, if you walk into your house and you take your CD collection and 242 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:41.599 you take it somewhere else, that's okay for you to do. But if 243 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:45.920 someone else you don't know comes and does that, it's stealing. It's the 244 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:49.880 exact same act on the exact same product, in the exact same home. 245 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:57.480 The difference is possession and ownership. You don't have ownership over another person, 246 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:06.240 not a wife, not a child, nothing God does. God has ownership 247 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:10.160 over all of it. Therefore, jealousy is just for God and different than 248 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:12.920 how you experience it. And this goes across the board for all those things 249 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:18.319 that you say about God. Another healthy way to look at scripture is that 250 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:25.000 if you're reading scripture from beginning, middle, and end, and people start 251 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:27.920 and what is referred to as the Old Testament, and you open that up 252 00:19:29.319 --> 00:19:32.319 and you see, Gosh, this is a vengeful God, and on all 253 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:34.599 these things, how can I worship a God that's filled with hate? God 254 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:40.319 is not filled with hate anymore than if you watch the upbringing of a child 255 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:45.000 and the way a parent deals with that child when they're young. They may 256 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:48.720 swat the behind, they may be sterned, they may give them time out, 257 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:51.960 they may do all kinds of things that they don't do when they're twelve 258 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:56.359 or thirteen or sixteen, or as they go into adolescence, and then the 259 00:19:56.400 --> 00:20:02.200 relationship changes when they're an adult. And if you have children, your relationship 260 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:06.839 with your children when they're three is different when they're thirty, and that's on 261 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:14.880 purpose and healthy. So if you look at scripture as really being the life 262 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:21.839 of one child, which is the Earth, growing with the parent, which 263 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:26.079 is God, that it makes more sense. And you see God going through 264 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:33.319 with the birth of creation and having to punish creation or to teach creation a 265 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:37.000 better understanding of why they're here and their purpose and how to interact with one 266 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:44.319 another, and then the loving side of things at the adulthood of creation understanding 267 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:51.359 and now concerning themselves with having a better relationship with God by way of salvation. 268 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:53.640 So if you look at it that way, it makes more sense. 269 00:20:53.680 --> 00:20:57.960 And it's not so you know, schizophrenic. You know, I'm this God, 270 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:03.519 I'm that God. They're all in context appropriate for God. They're not 271 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:11.200 appropriate for you and you brought up fear, Stan, what's something that you're 272 00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:15.519 fearful of? Now? Well, retribution? If I don't as the church 273 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:18.119 at the time I was in it at that age, you know, the 274 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:23.039 fire and brinsome. You have to think and fall in line to this philosophical 275 00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:29.359 line, and if you don't, you end up in hell. You you 276 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:34.640 you know, suffer dation. Okay, you know these all these that's worthy 277 00:21:34.680 --> 00:21:38.480 of fear. Yeah, okay. Now, now something not in the spiritual 278 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:41.519 realm, but something in the physical realm. What are you afraid of on 279 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:48.319 earth, non spiritual context. Well, life in general is fought fraught with 280 00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:56.279 all its sharp corners, fears controlling mostly my emotions and making sure that I'm 281 00:21:56.319 --> 00:22:00.640 trying to live the best life I can, okay, and following the good 282 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:04.880 that I see in philosophy and in your teachings, and of course as a 283 00:22:04.920 --> 00:22:10.319 man, I cannot reach that level, not at the physical in my belief, 284 00:22:10.359 --> 00:22:12.279 but I can a stride to it. Okay. So you're fearful my 285 00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:17.680 perception of what God wants me to do? Okay. So you're fearful of 286 00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:22.039 consequences of life. The very act of living causes the possibility of dying. 287 00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:30.799 So the life itself brings its own eyebrow, raising concerns because there's consequences now 288 00:22:30.279 --> 00:22:33.640 the fear, people try and water it down. I hear pastors say, 289 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:37.119 oh, well, it's a reverence that's using where no. Scripture is pretty 290 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:42.359 clear the beginning of wisdom is the fear of God. Now, people say, 291 00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:47.400 but a loving God. Do you fear loving God? Yes, because 292 00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:55.039 he's God. The very notion of a supreme being, the uncreated creator of 293 00:22:55.119 --> 00:23:02.079 all creation, deserves your fear more than anything else. People are feel that 294 00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:08.839 us a well, people feel that fear is worthy of a psychopath but not 295 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:14.279 God. But then they say, well, a psychopath will hurt you because 296 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:18.240 they're they're erratic. But God, it's not about the pain, it's about 297 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:22.960 the consequence of the rejection. Uh, look at it more this way. 298 00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:30.200 You are not fearful of water, but you're so fearful of water that you 299 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:34.599 intake it every day, knowing that without it you would die. But you 300 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:41.559 don't think of water as being something you fear. But really your actions every 301 00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:47.400 day show the contrary that if you you are so fearful that you're regimented in 302 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:49.920 your consumption of water, because if you didn't take it, you die. 303 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:56.039 So it's more along the lines of being fearful of the absence of God. 304 00:23:56.160 --> 00:24:02.400 Not the retribution, but the absence of the very presence of the creator that 305 00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:07.359 keeps everything in tune. And people see it as I'm supposed to fear God 306 00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:11.720 because of Hell. No, Hell is a place that you choose to go, 307 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:15.759 not a place that God sends you. Stan if you reject God on 308 00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:22.319 earth for however long you're here sixty seventy eighty ninety measley years, then God 309 00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:26.240 does not force you to be with him for all of eternity. That is 310 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:30.519 what hell is. It's a place where God's salvation is not. And so 311 00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:37.759 it's the equivalent of you rejecting that water and saying I hate water. I 312 00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:40.200 hate the taste of it. It's bland, I don't like it, and 313 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:44.359 then you're put in a desert forever and you go, wow, I need 314 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:48.279 to have water. That's where the fear comes from. It's an understanding of 315 00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:52.079 the true power and nature of God, not the consequence of God, but 316 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:59.160 the consequence of your rejection of God. That's not punishment as much as it 317 00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:04.079 is a re a real consequence you put your hand over a flame, stand, 318 00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:10.119 you will get burned. That is the consequence. It's not a punishment, 319 00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:14.960 it's the reality. It's the it's the real reaction to the flame upon 320 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:22.039 your flesh. Now, if you don't fear that fire, that makes you 321 00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:30.759 a fool, because that fire has inherent value and properties that can be damaging 322 00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:37.279 to you when misused or misunderstood. That's the same as God and people. 323 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:40.519 It gets very easy stand for people to to go, oh, and I'm 324 00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:44.640 just gonna reject this because the church says this, and it's just to scare 325 00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:49.640 you. That's that's silly saying. The fire department doesn't want you playing with 326 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:55.480 matches, and they come up with this big story about people dying every year, 327 00:25:55.839 --> 00:26:00.119 and this big story about people losing property and acre and acres of land, 328 00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:04.039 and it's just this silly, silly horror story just to keep you from 329 00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:11.240 playing with matches. No, they're telling you the consequence, the very real 330 00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:23.200 consequence of not having respect for fire regardless. It's not about keeping you in 331 00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:30.480 lockstep. It's about you understanding the reality so that you make the best choice 332 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:36.519 possible with the most information. That's all God wants you to have. All 333 00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:41.480 the information about the real consequences both in life, in the physical and in 334 00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:48.319 life in the spiritual and in the afterlife, and so that you can make 335 00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:52.480 the best and most educated decision, so that when you reject or accept God, 336 00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:56.839 it's real. If you accept God, it's with the real desire to 337 00:26:56.839 --> 00:27:00.640 get to know God, to have true faith and in her action and relationship 338 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:07.000 with God. Or if you reject him, it's based on knowing and saying 339 00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:12.480 I don't want this, it's not for me. But there's consequences. Gravity 340 00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:19.039 doesn't just affect those that believe in gravity. It affects everyone. Quickly, 341 00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:26.200 John, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Good morning, Hi there, 342 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:33.440 How can I help you question about Christians correcting non Christians? And there be 343 00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:37.359 silence on that matter. I was curious to where that was presence in the 344 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:42.480 Bible. I was speaking about First Corinthians, Chapter five, verse twelve, 345 00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:47.319 and thirteen. It says, for what have I to do with the judgment 346 00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:51.680 of outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church, but 347 00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:56.839 those who are outside? God judges remove the wicked man from among yourselves. 348 00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:03.519 And really the context here is a powerful one. It's like if you go 349 00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:08.039 to and drive on the Autobahn, there is no speed limit the same way 350 00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:12.799 you know them in the United States, but you wouldn't tell them they can't 351 00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:17.920 because they're bound by totally different laws than you are. If you're not a 352 00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:22.039 Christian, you're not bound by Christian laws. So to sit there and judge 353 00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:26.759 the non Christian is purposeless. The laws of Christianity should be used in the 354 00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:33.079 church, and unfortunately they're not. Christians aren't judging Christians enough, which is 355 00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:37.640 the purpose. And this whole verse says to judge those that are in the 356 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:41.960 church, clean up the church, clean up your family. But what the 357 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:45.559 church tends to want to do is judge everyone else who's not bound by Christianity 358 00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:49.200 because they're not Christians. They may be bound by the laws of God in 359 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:53.160 the big sense because God created it all, but as far as Christians, 360 00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:57.160 they're not bound by it. It's like trying to make someone outside of the 361 00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:02.680 United States be bound by the Constitute. It is not their laws. And 362 00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:07.640 Christians tend to do that. And in Scripture First Corinthians five twelve and thirteen, 363 00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:12.640 it's really pointing out that don't get wrapped up in judging those the non 364 00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:18.039 believe of the outsider, because God is judging them. Deal with judging those 365 00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:19.839 inside the church. To clean up the church and purify the church to the 366 00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:26.559 best of your ability. Okay, And on that note, I've been a 367 00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:29.680 Christian all my life where I've been in the church, and I'm a believer, 368 00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:33.759 I'll say that. And I'm just now trying to really live the way 369 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:37.440 God wants me to live. I have other people in my family and they're 370 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.920 always judging they say they're Christian. Also not for me to say whether they 371 00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.960 are or not them in God, but and also in the public view where 372 00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:51.039 Christians are bringing down people and I won't go to for this sin or that 373 00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:56.799 sin, and so on that note, also are they judging non Christians? 374 00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:02.440 And how is that explained? Well, in the sense I'm not sure exactly 375 00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:06.599 what you're saying, in the sense that you can you can judge the non 376 00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:08.519 believer to the point where you're trying to share the Gospel with them, because 377 00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:14.720 otherwise you would never be able to start a conversation. But in what context 378 00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:18.319 you feel that they're judging the non believer. Well, I'll go to specific 379 00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:23.799 as far as a portunate homosexuality, that type of struct you a few that 380 00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:27.359 kind of thing. Yeah, that can fall into it as well, But 381 00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:33.000 depending on if they're judging them based on American law as well, because they 382 00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:37.799 can say, hey, they can be judging that based on a law, 383 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:41.079 a particular law, whether that law is righteous or not. They can make 384 00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:47.960 notes or statements about those things as well. But again to if there was 385 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:52.279 somebody who's a non believer, whether they're homosexual, or whether they're having abortions 386 00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:55.279 or whatever, they can have a say, a personal thought about it. 387 00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:57.519 You can't judge them in the same sense in the same way because they're not 388 00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:02.440 bound by it. Now, if a Christian is running around having abortion, 389 00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:08.160 maybe that's a different subject. But that the argument get people get caught up. 390 00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:12.559 It's really more about Christians wanting to form everybody, not even about their 391 00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:18.960 salvation. I think that it really falls on the fact that Christians want everybody 392 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:22.480 to be like them so they're more comfortable with their own tribe. And that's 393 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.839 not what the gospel's about. Because even if you read through the epistles, 394 00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:30.519 there were things that were going on within the church that people were still wrestling 395 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.440 with, and I think that that's a really powerful statement as to what goes 396 00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:38.599 on, especially in the United States, where the assumption is that everyone who's 397 00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:42.519 a Christian is an American or everyone who's an Americans a Christian, and neither 398 00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:47.759 of those statements are true. And that's a tribal thing, that's not a 399 00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:51.839 Christian thing. All right. I know that it's a new year and there's 400 00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:55.640 a lot of craziness going on, but remember these simple words. I am 401 00:31:55.680 --> 00:32:00.799 with you always. KFI A six on demand