1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:10,359 What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to episode what is this? 2 00:00:10,359 --> 00:00:15,599 One? Forty three of the Clips Why Not of the Eclipse and Dip Podcast. 3 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,399 We are part of the two and three Hoops Empire. Shout out the 4 00:00:19,399 --> 00:00:23,079 two and three Hoop's been putting out fantastic Clippers content for a very long time. 5 00:00:23,359 --> 00:00:27,320 I am Chuck Bockler, joined by William Updyke and Adam Osland. We're 6 00:00:27,359 --> 00:00:31,320 gonna be talking Game five preview, what the Clippers need to do to avoid 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:36,359 a sweep, some of this Paul George practice footage. Some the Suns had 8 00:00:36,399 --> 00:00:40,000 a you know, an injury update which doesn't really help the Clippers out as 9 00:00:40,039 --> 00:00:44,000 well. But we're live on YouTube right now at Clippers Podcast. If you 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,200 ever want to check us out at Clippers Pod. We are on Twitter at 11 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,840 clippers Pod. Got all the handles covered. But first, before we get 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,920 into it, Adam and will we haven't spoken since this weekend. Um, 13 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,600 Adam, I'll go with you because you're more optimistic and the other two of 14 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,239 your hosts myself included, how are you feeling on the eve of Game five? 15 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,359 You know, shockingly down? Bad? Guys? Just saw the injury 16 00:01:11,359 --> 00:01:15,560 report. Sure, no Kawhi Leonard, No, Paul George, They're still 17 00:01:15,599 --> 00:01:19,159 out. It's just been so frustrating. I know you said they got to 18 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,280 avoid the sweep. I guess as a gentleman's sweep if they lose in five, 19 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:30,079 But it's the level of frustration is extreme right now, just because the 20 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,159 injuries going on, how they've fought out there, how they've been able to 21 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,920 battle regardless of who is available, and this Sun's team is just very beatable. 22 00:01:40,359 --> 00:01:44,239 Yeah, this is a very winnable series. They got the right matchup. 23 00:01:44,359 --> 00:01:48,640 This was the preferred matchup. Turns out over the Sacramento Kings if they 24 00:01:48,719 --> 00:01:52,439 just had one of their two guys, I think it's flipped the other way 25 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,760 and the Clippers with the team up three one. You know, it is 26 00:01:56,799 --> 00:02:00,959 hard to watch this team being so undermanned in short handed yet again play their 27 00:02:00,959 --> 00:02:06,159 hearts out and not get rewarded for it. The free throw discrepancy has been 28 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:13,599 extremely, extremely frustrating the Clipper Nation Sons with seventeen more attempts in Game four, 29 00:02:13,759 --> 00:02:19,800 Russell Westbrook he has the second highest points total in playoff history without attempting 30 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,560 a free throw. With his thirty seven points, he drove to the basket 31 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:27,319 seventeen times and doesn't get a free throw. Kevin Rant drove twice and took 32 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,960 more free throw than the entire Clippers bench or the entire Clippers roster in Game 33 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:37,599 four. It's just it's been an unbelievably frustrating series from the standpoint of the 34 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,439 Clippers have hung tough, They've been right there. They haven't been able to 35 00:02:40,439 --> 00:02:44,560 get victories the last three games, but they were all very winnable, and 36 00:02:44,599 --> 00:02:47,919 the last two without Paul George and Kawhi Leonard. It's just it's hard to 37 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:52,240 watch this team not get rewarded right now. I just feel for him, 38 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,759 and I feel for Clipper Nation. Not to add some fuel to your fire 39 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,039 for the refs, but I'm gonna go ahead and pick up a gas can. 40 00:02:59,159 --> 00:03:04,080 Here I was wading. I was in another group chat around twenty five 41 00:03:04,159 --> 00:03:07,800 percent of the Sun's points have come from free throws in this series, which 42 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:13,199 is pretty crazy to think about. And we're not just talking about, you 43 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,000 know, the piece of paper with the box score on it and just a 44 00:03:16,039 --> 00:03:21,199 bunch of numbers the eye test matches it. I mean, there are people 45 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,479 have created accounts that have gotten run and gotten followers and I'm one of them, 46 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:30,439 just because they're posting all the miss calls by the Clippers in this series 47 00:03:30,439 --> 00:03:35,000 are going against the Clippers in this series, it's it's been hard to watch. 48 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,400 There have been some blatantly bad calls. Is not just the take foul 49 00:03:38,439 --> 00:03:44,879 that Devin Booker mean you No, it wasn't me. I don't have any 50 00:03:44,919 --> 00:03:49,960 burners. I'm not Carl Tarder. Adams burners are all Adam Oslin because he 51 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,719 just switched the first two letters of his first and last name and he's like, 52 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:58,360 oh shit, Will, how are you doing? Are you in a 53 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:03,000 similar vein as them? Are you full of more rage? Where? You 54 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:10,000 know how before you freeze to that they say you feel really warm? Yeah, 55 00:04:10,039 --> 00:04:12,360 that's kind of where I'm out right now. Look, I I mean 56 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:19,600 I think it would be absolutely like gutsy and so appreciated for this Clippers team 57 00:04:19,639 --> 00:04:25,839 again down all of two, one, three, uh, to go back 58 00:04:25,879 --> 00:04:30,639 to Phoenix get another win. Be very Clippers seeing it happen. Four yea. 59 00:04:30,399 --> 00:04:34,240 In you know what I think for fans another forty eight minutes. Yeah, 60 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,600 but I mean, like in what I think for fans is, you 61 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:41,959 know, one of the most fondly remembered playoff series to spite losing in six 62 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,600 to the Golden State Warriors. Um, I think it'd be absolutely great. 63 00:04:45,639 --> 00:04:49,800 But I'm just at the point where, um, I'm liking the PG footage. 64 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,800 I'm just we'll talk about talking, but I mean nowhere that I'm seeing, 65 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,439 am I like really getting a strong in cleaner indication that it's like, 66 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:03,240 Okay, if it goes one more game, maybe then you know it's it's 67 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,680 not feeling like that for me right now. So I'm kind of like I'm 68 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,600 a little zend out on it to be perfect announced. And I'm not saying 69 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:15,360 that I think a win is impossible by any stretch of the mind. Um, 70 00:05:15,399 --> 00:05:19,360 but I'm saying from what we've heard so far where these how these injuries 71 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:25,519 are progressing, it seems like it's just a matter of time until it's kind 72 00:05:25,519 --> 00:05:28,920 of curtains. Uh. That's not to say that it wouldn't be enjoyable or 73 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,240 that like Clippers get this win, they you know, they force another game 74 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,920 back in LA that you know, maybe they you know, maybe they could 75 00:05:36,079 --> 00:05:40,519 they could do something crazy at home and you know, the role players would 76 00:05:40,519 --> 00:05:44,600 finally bounce back in the right direction and everything could click, you know, 77 00:05:44,639 --> 00:05:47,600 like the the margins on these games, you know, with the exception of 78 00:05:47,639 --> 00:05:51,399 that Game four, like you know, have really been quite close. So 79 00:05:51,439 --> 00:05:58,000 it's not out of the quality. Yeah, there's just been too many close 80 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,480 games that in no absolutely no fault to the Clippers. I mean they're doing 81 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,800 that's all they can than some other than some you know, questionable rotations and 82 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:13,319 stuff in that in that Game four. But you know, I think they're 83 00:06:13,319 --> 00:06:17,120 really they're giving it their best shot that they can shorthand it. And I 84 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:23,639 think that if the Cavalry isn't coming um, like I said, it feels 85 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,079 like it's just a matter of time. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It 86 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,199 started the podcast off on it. If they don't get Kauhir Paul George Back, 87 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,079 I said it after game two and we got the news about Kawhi and 88 00:06:32,079 --> 00:06:35,000 we did the emergency podcast. If they don't have one of those guys, 89 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:40,480 they can't win the series against the Phoenix Suns. It would be a miraculous 90 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,879 come back, not just coming back down three to one, but to do 91 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,639 so without your two best players. Yeah, that's something we've never seen before. 92 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,839 Yeah, and so we did get the PG practice footage today. That 93 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,639 was the most he's been moving. Um Kawai did not practice today. They're 94 00:06:57,639 --> 00:07:02,079 both listed out on the injury report, so barring some late injury port shenanigans 95 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:09,319 which have happened before, these two guys are out. But the practice footage, 96 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,319 you know, I think, hey, if we go to six games, 97 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,199 maybe he comes back. He's definitely I think he's up to us. 98 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,800 What his Wes Johnson portion of the recovery where he's like kind of playing one 99 00:07:19,839 --> 00:07:26,680 on one against Clivers assistant coach Wessey Johnson. But he's definitely moving more than 100 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:31,160 he was. I would feel better about it if we weren't down three one. 101 00:07:31,439 --> 00:07:34,040 But Adam, where are you? We know you love practice footage, 102 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:45,079 be at stationary or moving. He look I was hopeful after we saw Paul 103 00:07:45,079 --> 00:07:47,800 George shooting around and then a few days later he was moving and getting his 104 00:07:47,839 --> 00:07:53,759 cardio up. Today he looked amazing. It's still just practice footage, though, 105 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,720 I don't know how much that means he's close to actually playing in a 106 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:03,759 real game or what's the proto call on the ramp up process exactly all the 107 00:08:03,759 --> 00:08:05,920 steps he has to go through. Is it beating all the assistant coaches. 108 00:08:07,079 --> 00:08:11,399 Is it like Mike Tyson's King of the court with then he gets out and 109 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:13,839 played. He's got to play the announcer, he's got to play Donnie Mack. 110 00:08:13,879 --> 00:08:16,000 He's gotta beat his guys on the podcast. Yeah, Well, when 111 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:20,600 we're going to talk about their podcast later. Because there was an insane interaction 112 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:24,319 on that, I thought, Um, I actually have a theory that the 113 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,839 only reason we got such good footage of Paul George at practice was because the 114 00:08:28,879 --> 00:08:31,519 Clippers knew he was going to be held out, but they just wanted to 115 00:08:31,519 --> 00:08:35,320 give some hope from the practice footage. That's my tinfoil hat theory. Well, 116 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,519 did you think he was coming back at all when he saw that footage? 117 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,000 Or do you think if they if this goes to six m do you 118 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,000 think we get a designation change? Not even is he gonna play? Do 119 00:08:45,039 --> 00:08:48,679 you think the designation I mean dobtful. Look, I tried to find something 120 00:08:48,759 --> 00:08:52,480 for people. I thought he was ready to come back when I saw the 121 00:08:52,519 --> 00:08:54,039 heart rate monitor all right, when I saw him being around with the heart 122 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,480 ray monitor on, I was like, Okay, we're gonna go like the 123 00:08:56,519 --> 00:09:03,240 soreness in swelling him all be control like must be well enough under control. 124 00:09:03,639 --> 00:09:07,399 Rangelmotion seems good enough for him to be moving around out there. So yeah, 125 00:09:07,519 --> 00:09:11,159 Like I don't think it's out of the possibility, but it's just how 126 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:18,080 long can you hold on? And then you know what level when he returns. 127 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,279 I think any level of Paul George, you know, obviously significantly still 128 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,000 can swing things in the Clippers direction, even if he's fifty one percent of 129 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:31,679 himself. But you know, it's the waiting game is not going to go 130 00:09:31,799 --> 00:09:35,559 the Clippers way. Much like the free throw disparity, which Clipper Kyle pointed 131 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,559 out on Twitter. I think it's like fifty one. It's it's like plus 132 00:09:39,639 --> 00:09:43,799 fifty one attempts. Let me bring up the comment it's seventy three to thirty 133 00:09:43,799 --> 00:09:48,240 five the last two games alone, seventy three attempts thirty five for the Clippers, 134 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,919 So more than twice as many, Yeah, for a jump shooting team. 135 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,799 Like I don't want to be labor it. I don't want to extend 136 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,799 the conversation. But your other people, other people, we're talking about it, 137 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,480 and it seems to be a storyline in this series. They made the 138 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,799 rules. When do you see a team get forty six free throws. I 139 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,759 guess it's fair game than to bring it up because they talked about it first. 140 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:16,720 Yeah, absolutely, like this is not anything that, This isn't anything 141 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,679 crazy like. And again we're not getting blown out. It's not like these 142 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,720 arguments don't even have a place because I'm usually not on the blame refs. 143 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,480 I'm usually not a blame refs guy when these are close games and you're already 144 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:31,480 down to guys and the difference is so big and you get these stats like 145 00:10:31,519 --> 00:10:35,720 that Westbrook when you said it's hard to not be frustrated by it. Well, 146 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,720 and so one thing I'm gonna say too, is because like, obviously 147 00:10:39,159 --> 00:10:43,639 you know, the officiating completely, you know, for the most part out 148 00:10:43,639 --> 00:10:46,320 of your control. Obviously you can try to do a better job defending without 149 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,720 fouling, which I do think the Clippers have. You know, in the 150 00:10:48,799 --> 00:10:52,080 Sun's credit, the Clippers have had issues at doing at times. Do I 151 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,039 think it's to the level of how large the disparity is. Absolutely not. 152 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:05,039 But I think even even beyond the points which obviously hurts, like the times 153 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,320 some of these fouls are coming, like you know, they're total momentum killers, 154 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,080 and you can, I mean, everybody has been shipping in so hard 155 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,480 that you don't really see it, but you can feel a little bit of 156 00:11:16,519 --> 00:11:20,000 air come out of the balloon, like it's gonna be time. There's like 157 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,080 a momentum shifting. Horrible. If you've ever been on a team, I've 158 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,200 been on bad sports teams before, and it's pretty fun. But when you're 159 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,240 on a bad sports team and you're playing a game and the refs are also 160 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:35,840 against you, shit becomes real frustrating. And imagine if your two best guys 161 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,039 are out and you are you know what I mean, Like it's it's a 162 00:11:39,159 --> 00:11:41,440 nightmare, Like you're totally right, dude. It plays a part in just 163 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,720 the frustration of it. Part of the problem for me in Game three, 164 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:50,200 especially with the forty six free throw attempts for the Phoenix Suns, was some 165 00:11:50,279 --> 00:11:54,919 of those calls. The bad calls early on in quarters led to them getting 166 00:11:54,919 --> 00:12:00,600 in the bonus earlier to when there were legitimate calls that should have gone against 167 00:12:00,639 --> 00:12:03,919 the Clippers. They also were compounding things because now they're in the penalty and 168 00:12:03,919 --> 00:12:07,200 they're sending guys to the line, even though yes, that was the correct 169 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,279 call, had they not made the brutal calls against them earlier in the quarter, 170 00:12:11,399 --> 00:12:15,440 they wouldn't have been in the penalty. And I saw this from Joey 171 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:20,679 Lynn on Twitter. Drives this series Russell Westbrook fifty three, Devin Booker forty 172 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,360 seven, Kevin Durand twenty five free throws this series, Kevin Durand with twenty 173 00:12:24,399 --> 00:12:30,519 five drives is at thirty eight attempts Devin Booker with less drives on Russell Westbrook 174 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:35,360 by six. Is at twenty nine attempts Russell Westbrook with six more drives to 175 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:39,720 the basket so far in the series, has attempted twelve less free throws at 176 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:46,480 seventeen than Devin Booker. It's just the aggressor is not being rewarded on the 177 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:52,279 Clippers side. It almost feels like the umpseray to go home, you know, 178 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,240 when there's a call out that's way outside and they're just like, yeah, 179 00:12:54,240 --> 00:13:00,679 it's six six one in the night. Yeah. I know. It's 180 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,639 improbable for the Clippers to win this series without Collide. Paul George, I 181 00:13:03,639 --> 00:13:07,840 don't think it could happen either, the winning three more games without those two 182 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,960 against the Phoenix Suns, But that doesn't mean it needs to be more of 183 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,360 an uphill battle. For this Clippers team and the heart they showed and just 184 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:18,799 not even getting calls at home, not getting the beneficial whistle ever at home. 185 00:13:18,919 --> 00:13:22,879 I thought my provision was, and that's the ref uniform, Like, 186 00:13:22,879 --> 00:13:26,000 what do we got to do out here? I thought in Game four it 187 00:13:26,039 --> 00:13:28,799 would be the makeup game for the Clippers after so much was getting made of 188 00:13:28,919 --> 00:13:33,279 Game three. I've seen that so many times in a seven game series to 189 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,960 where somebody complains Rick Adaman goes after the Lakers, that Bill Jackson goes after 190 00:13:39,039 --> 00:13:41,720 the Kings, and it goes back and forth like that. Mostly just goes 191 00:13:41,759 --> 00:13:46,200 back to the Lakers game the calls, but still it happens, and it's 192 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,960 not for the Clippers. We also didn't get, you know, we also 193 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,159 didn't get those performances out of other role guys in that Game four, And 194 00:13:56,159 --> 00:14:00,000 that was absolutely brutal, which is so hard like that, that's what's brutals. 195 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,720 The one. The thing about being great in the NBA is how consistently 196 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,320 you can be great. A lot of these guys. Random people have fifty 197 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,840 point games. It just happens. Random people have forty point games and stuff 198 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:16,799 like that. But yeah, there you go to do it consistently and in 199 00:14:16,799 --> 00:14:20,600 the playoffs is what makes players like PG and Kawhi and KD and Book so 200 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,519 good. And when you don't have that, you can get these peaks of 201 00:14:24,559 --> 00:14:28,639 the Clippers have gotten. We got forty from Norma, we got the We've 202 00:14:28,679 --> 00:14:35,240 had the best version of Russell Westbrook in the last five ten years. And 203 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,519 it's still not enough without without those two kind of guys, which is is 204 00:14:39,559 --> 00:14:41,480 there anything else we want to say before we get into them? And weirdly 205 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,399 and this is like not even meant to be a dig at Russ, but 206 00:14:45,679 --> 00:14:48,840 post game one he has been the most reliable and kind of clute guy, 207 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,759 which yeah, again no shade to the man, but like you know that 208 00:14:54,759 --> 00:15:01,279 that's not enough to get you through a series against these Phoenix Suns. The 209 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:05,240 last thing I'll say is that account I was talking about that was giving video 210 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:11,320 of all the bad calls. And this may trigger some at playoff Shay sh 211 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:16,279 but he put together a thread of them. You can you can just point 212 00:15:16,279 --> 00:15:18,919 to the piece of paper and look at the disparity, but it's another thing 213 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,519 when the video matches it. And some of these fansom calls, like the 214 00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:28,360 one on Bones in game three, I forget. It was a game I 215 00:15:28,399 --> 00:15:31,480 think was last game that Russ hadn't they called a foul. Yeah, not 216 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,679 even close to a foul. There's too many of those happening. So yeah, 217 00:15:35,799 --> 00:15:39,639 we can. We can table it. We're tabling it. We're coming 218 00:15:39,679 --> 00:15:41,960 up. We're gonna talk the actual basketball game. We're not going to talk 219 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,519 about the refs at all. We got ads coming up. They've been a 220 00:15:46,519 --> 00:15:48,519 little lone for some people. So if that's true for you, if you're 221 00:15:48,519 --> 00:15:50,639 just listening, if you're not watching, go ahead and turn it down. 222 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,159 Ads coming up, and then series, hopefully not the end of the series. 223 00:15:54,720 --> 00:16:02,159 Preview coming up in three two one Welcome back in Clips and Zimp episode. 224 00:16:02,399 --> 00:16:06,000 Where are we at? One forty four? Three? We almost forty 225 00:16:06,039 --> 00:16:08,080 three. We almost have a load of laundry ready for in terms of episodes, 226 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,039 I'm jumping ahead a little bit. My bad. Well, you don't 227 00:16:11,039 --> 00:16:17,679 read the breakdown so that we had a little of laundry and I ate ate 228 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:22,200 the tide pot. Apparently now I'm looking at it right here. Okay, 229 00:16:22,279 --> 00:16:25,559 coming up, we're gonna talk about podcast P as we teased earlier. I 230 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:30,440 listened to the new episode today, but here in this segment. We can 231 00:16:30,519 --> 00:16:33,120 talk a little bit about what has to go right for the Clippers to win 232 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,120 Game five based off of what we've seen so far in this series, for 233 00:16:37,159 --> 00:16:40,679 instance, and Chuck, we talked about it on the Clips and Double Dip 234 00:16:40,679 --> 00:16:44,480 the other night most game on Clippers Talk, I asked you what rotations you 235 00:16:44,519 --> 00:16:45,879 wanted to see, and one of the things we came to the conclusion of 236 00:16:45,919 --> 00:16:51,720 it is just play Terrence Man thirty five plus minutes playing forty minutes empty the 237 00:16:51,759 --> 00:16:55,519 clip with Terrence Man, let him go, let him run. We're gonna 238 00:16:55,559 --> 00:17:00,480 see one of the biggest kind of what I like, what what's up? 239 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,119 We're what's happenings? If Terrence Man doesn't get over thirty five minutes tomorrow, 240 00:17:04,559 --> 00:17:08,599 it's gonna make absolutely no sense. It's the potentially the final game of the 241 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,799 season. Terence has been lighting it up. He's been what we need him 242 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:21,279 to be. Um, there's just no reason to not play Terrence Like, 243 00:17:21,799 --> 00:17:22,640 I don't know, Will Like, what do you what do you think his 244 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:27,079 minutes are gonna be? I'm pulling up um the stats right now and stuff, 245 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:32,279 But what are your thoughts on Terrence? I mean, beyond the beyond 246 00:17:32,319 --> 00:17:34,519 the minutes. If he's not in the starting lineup, it's a failure. 247 00:17:36,039 --> 00:17:41,319 Like just it's a failure. We know, we like, we know what's 248 00:17:41,319 --> 00:17:45,640 working with this team. Uh like it even has worked with Russell Westbrook. 249 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,079 I don't see it being a large enough detriment to the bench. I understand 250 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:56,039 some of ties hesitancies to to keep Marcus with that starting lineup. We're due 251 00:17:56,039 --> 00:17:57,960 to some of the issues that his defense and everything else creates on the bench. 252 00:17:59,079 --> 00:18:00,279 Great, cut him out of the rotation, then how about that your 253 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:06,720 face element? Yeah, get him out. Terrence is at twenty six minutes 254 00:18:06,759 --> 00:18:11,440 per game in these playoffs, which is well when he should be playing at 255 00:18:11,519 --> 00:18:15,240 least thirty six. He's only playing three more minutes per game than he did 256 00:18:15,279 --> 00:18:18,680 in the regular season, which is absolutely insane. You consider that we're out 257 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:23,200 Paul Georgian Kauhai, so rotations are already cut down by two guys, and 258 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:29,039 Margus Forrest didn't play the first two games. Like we need more Terrence Man. 259 00:18:29,079 --> 00:18:30,960 I don't know what else really to say, Adam, would you like 260 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:40,319 to preach more from the book of Man? I would give my rib to 261 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:45,319 create another Terence Man like. I love Terrence Man. I think they're always 262 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:51,000 better when Terrence Man is on the floor. Everybody in Clipper Nation seems to 263 00:18:51,079 --> 00:18:53,680 agree on that. Outsiders, there's a national narrative. If you listen to 264 00:18:53,759 --> 00:18:59,279 Zach Low and appreciate his commentary, he's identified Terrence Man is just a winning 265 00:18:59,319 --> 00:19:03,599 player, making winning plays, regardless of what the stats say. Those chunky 266 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,319 box scores, as you like to put it, chuck sometimes from him. 267 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,119 Regardless, he's just typically a plus out there. What was he a minus 268 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,599 two in a game they lost by twelve something like that? Last game? 269 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:17,960 He was good and he helped swing the game back in their favor after they 270 00:19:18,039 --> 00:19:21,759 were down big early. They ended up winning that first quarter. Marcus goes 271 00:19:21,799 --> 00:19:26,440 out, Terrence Man goes in, and he made winning plays. He helped 272 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,759 get the game point in the right direction for the Clippers, who have shockingly, 273 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,240 I think they've outscored. I think they're like a plus twenty four plus 274 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,480 twenty six in first quarters so far in this series through four games. You 275 00:19:37,519 --> 00:19:41,119 want to talk about changing a narrative on something that was just abysmal for them 276 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,119 all season long, struggling to get off to good starts. They've gotten them. 277 00:19:45,279 --> 00:19:48,319 They have and that makes it even more confounding that they've lost the last 278 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,599 three games. Start Terrence, why not The other note that I haven't here 279 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,319 is stopped playing Marcus Morris at all. Yeah, let's stop that. But 280 00:19:59,319 --> 00:20:03,839 that's not gonna happened. Tylu said this today and the practice presser, and 281 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,559 I'm sorry, I'm laughing. I'm talking about it, but it feels like 282 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,839 an AI generator response. Um. He said, first of all, he's 283 00:20:11,839 --> 00:20:15,680 played good against Phoenix in general, but he's fifth all time amongst guys who've 284 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,240 taken at least one hundred shots in the playoffs and three point field goal percentage. 285 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:26,039 That feels why is why does Tyler have this in his pocket? I 286 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,519 think it's going to be criticized for it. Well, just like, oh 287 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,680 yeah, yeah right, this statement because you know, bad like because after 288 00:20:33,839 --> 00:20:37,400 game four he was asked about Terrence or excuse me, Marcus Morris, and 289 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,759 all he said was because I felt like it. Basically, I'm rephrasing a 290 00:20:41,799 --> 00:20:45,839 little bit, so I think he wanted to come with something more substantive today. 291 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:52,839 I can't defend it feels the amount of field goal attempts was absurd too. 292 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,480 I just I understand giving him an opportunity like that in Game four, 293 00:20:56,599 --> 00:21:00,319 but when it's obviously not working and he's looking the exact same way he has 294 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,920 the last three months. I said at the half on Twitter, he's a 295 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,359 minus fourteen and fourteen minutes out there. I don't always trust the plus minus, 296 00:21:08,599 --> 00:21:11,799 but it matched the eyeball test. They made all their runs without them, 297 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,240 The Phoenix Suns made their runs win. He was on the court, 298 00:21:15,599 --> 00:21:18,400 he was bad. He couldn't shoot the ball. There was a play in 299 00:21:18,519 --> 00:21:19,920 Game three when he came in and played a little bit, and I was 300 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:25,480 watching him closely because we have speculated Marcus just doesn't look right. It may 301 00:21:25,559 --> 00:21:30,960 not just be an age thing, because his numbers took a precipitous slide right 302 00:21:30,039 --> 00:21:34,200 after that game against the Los Angeles Lakers where he had the rib injury, 303 00:21:34,519 --> 00:21:38,240 because that month he was still shooting thirty six percent from three. He wasn't 304 00:21:38,279 --> 00:21:41,119 awful. The month before that he was still at forty percent from three, 305 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,759 and then all of a sudden, since then, he's basically been at thirty 306 00:21:45,799 --> 00:21:49,480 percent from the outside, which feels high. Yeah, if I'm being on 307 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:55,720 it, it does. But I watched him in a play in Game three, 308 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,759 not the game he started, but in Game three, there was a 309 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,359 loose ball in the back and he went to try to pick it up and 310 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,759 it looked like he was And I'm not being flipping, I'm not being sarcastic. 311 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,759 I'm not trying to be funny about it. Nice person on this spot. 312 00:22:07,799 --> 00:22:11,359 So I'm just reporting on what I saw in the arena on that play 313 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,279 as I was watching Marcus closely, it looked like he was having trouble bending 314 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,599 over to pick up the basketball and somebody else from the Clippers came up and 315 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,039 got in the back horn instead. That's what I saw Garden Durrant that play 316 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,279 when he fell, when he was Gardened Durant, that wasn't it. I 317 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,720 just got, you know, completely shook out of my shoes fall that. 318 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:34,880 Oh man, he did get shook. But does that's very fair. It's 319 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:40,319 just like, if he's starting tomorrow, there's been a lot of I feel 320 00:22:40,319 --> 00:22:45,119 like the if there were a word cloud for the Clippers twenty twenty two twenty 321 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,880 twenty three season, the word unserious would be one of the bigger words in 322 00:22:51,079 --> 00:22:56,960 that word cloud. If Marcus Morris starts tomorrow in what could be the Clippers 323 00:22:57,039 --> 00:23:04,519 final game, it's the most unserious move of the year, I think, 324 00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:10,160 I mean, I don't know will I mean, look, he took more 325 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:15,119 three point attempts than any other player that you know. They it's I understand 326 00:23:15,279 --> 00:23:18,960 riding with a player to a certain degree, right, maybe not Morris, 327 00:23:18,079 --> 00:23:22,119 and then he got off the ride because we did, yeah, like get 328 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,119 like, given what we've given what we've seen this season, Like I understand 329 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,240 maybe not riding with Morris, but I understand in general the idea of, 330 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,279 hey, we know what this guy is capable of, we know what he's 331 00:23:30,319 --> 00:23:37,839 done before. But in that game, he was given every single opportunity right 332 00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:41,559 there was I feel like there was no stone left unturned if there was, 333 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:48,519 you know, like any lingering old Marcus to be to be discovered or uncovered 334 00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:52,359 somewhere, and this is what we got. And I mean it pains me 335 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,880 to say it because I thought, you know, I thought, if he 336 00:23:56,039 --> 00:23:59,000 was in a good shape for this season coming into this year, I mean, 337 00:23:59,039 --> 00:24:03,559 that lifted this the Clippers ceiling considerably. Unfortunately, where he's at right 338 00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:08,279 now, he lowers the floor considerably for this Clippers team. And I just 339 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,119 don't know, like I just don't know if it was if it was a 340 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,599 performance where he had started. We did it in a limited stretch. He 341 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,119 only had to say four or three, like, he took half the amount 342 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,200 of shot attempts. He took more threes once again than any other player on 343 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,759 the Clippers roster. He hit one of a twelve point five percent. I'm 344 00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:30,640 just I'm not banking on the reverse of that, you know what I mean. 345 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:33,559 I'm not banking that if he does that again, he's suddenly going to 346 00:24:33,599 --> 00:24:37,720 be six of eight or seven of eight or something other worldly. I think 347 00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:44,359 right now, Marcus is what he is, and I don't know best negative, 348 00:24:44,519 --> 00:24:48,000 Yeah, and I hope that's something that can change with a healthy offseason, 349 00:24:48,039 --> 00:24:49,519 maybe dropping some more weight, maybe you know, working on conditioning and 350 00:24:49,519 --> 00:24:52,359 stuff. I don't know. I can't think about that right now. All 351 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,200 I can think about is the Clippers facing elimination. There's no way that you 352 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,359 can feel comfortable rolling into battle if you ten, if you want to attend 353 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,759 to win this game like and playing Marcus Moore's those kind of minutes giving him 354 00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:10,880 those short of opportunities. The thing is Game four was basically a must win 355 00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:15,039 if you are going to win the series. I think you much hadn't having 356 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,440 tied up must wins. You had to. You had to at least split 357 00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:25,119 at home to keep this seriality. And I again understand trying him because we 358 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,720 wanted to see, Okay, has something changed with the time off? Is 359 00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:33,200 Marcus healthier now? But when he looks exactly like he has over a three 360 00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:37,359 month sample size and Terrence Man comes in and gives you that lift and gives 361 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,279 you that spark, you gotta roll with him. I thought he might go 362 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,079 to Terence Man to start the second half after Marcus was a minus fourteen in 363 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,839 his fourteen minutes. And I'm not trying to be harsh on Marcus. Something 364 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:51,599 doesn't look right. It just does her. No, it doesn't. And 365 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,640 that's what I'm saying, Like, I don't you know, I'm not saying 366 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,720 this is like an indictment necessarily honest of his career. I think it's definitely, 367 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,599 you know, if the Clippers are eliminating Game five, certainly a very 368 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,839 big question and a tough question that the Clippers have to ask themselves. But 369 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,880 right now, where he's at, what he can provide is not enough. 370 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,400 It's just not good enough. And I think the thing that's been so confounding 371 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,240 and frustrating about this team all year long is that every time we think we're 372 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,359 starting to turn or a corner, like with the rotations, with effort, 373 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,559 with whatever you want, it's like one step forward, three steps back. 374 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,599 Man. We got Marcus out of the lineup. He didn't play in the 375 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,519 first two playoff games. I thought that we had figured something now that was 376 00:26:27,559 --> 00:26:33,359 gonna work. And apparently not, Like, apparently the evidence isn't strong enough. 377 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,240 Apparently, But I don't know if it's I don't know if it's just 378 00:26:36,319 --> 00:26:38,319 the coaching staff, or if it's the locker room or like, who is 379 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,880 all calculated in those decisions, But for some reason other people are not quite 380 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,680 convinced yet, And I'm not sure what else it could possibly take at this 381 00:26:47,799 --> 00:26:51,440 point. I mean, all I know is if he rolls out there where 382 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,240 so I was here, I'll go ahead at him. Here's what I don't 383 00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:57,200 get if we're still talking about Marcus here, Yeah, go for it. 384 00:26:57,519 --> 00:27:03,200 The game that he was taking out of the rotation was against the Pelicans and 385 00:27:03,319 --> 00:27:07,200 an almost must win situation. At the time, we thought to stay out 386 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,319 of the play and not the final game against the Pelicans, but the Saturday 387 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:17,240 before at home and Coach Lu, who I love, but I have said 388 00:27:17,319 --> 00:27:19,680 all season long, you know, Coach Lu, in the playoffs, it's 389 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,599 going to be a different animal. You'll see those rotations tighten. And for 390 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,920 the most part, he's made some great moves. Everybody else said in Game 391 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,559 one, you can't keep playing Russell Westbrook. He's stuck with him. It 392 00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:33,440 is paid dividends in a huge way and is the biggest reason really the Clippers 393 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,400 are still, you know, have a fighting chance because Russell Westbrook through and 394 00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:41,119 that's a huge crisis. Highlu, Right, Like, that's what I'm saying 395 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,240 for his guys. He rides for his guys, and I think that that's 396 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,839 great until but there is a double edged sword to that, Like there there 397 00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:51,480 is the flip side of that. Well, also what's so tough is that 398 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,359 it wasn't working form at all, Like but Tom offensively, offensively, it 399 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,480 wasn't working because he couldn't get into a rhythm. He said, you just 400 00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:02,880 kind of stay in the corner of defensively has been phenomenal, which is why 401 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,680 it's like, then we need him out there for that side. Well, 402 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,359 that's we need the firepower though, like we can't have guys who who are 403 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,559 unable to contribute on both ends of the fast this team, they scored one 404 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,640 hundred and twenty five points in Game three with Nicholas but Tune playing minutes. 405 00:28:17,759 --> 00:28:22,559 I don't think like the firepower isn't also having Marcus Voris out there going one 406 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,240 for eight from the outside. The firepower would be Robert Covington, who has 407 00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:32,440 had the best three point percentage on the team since March. His last twelve 408 00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:37,200 games, he has shot sixty one percent from three mark Robert Covington, So 409 00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:41,079 it's not like you don't have options with The thing with Rocco that gets me, 410 00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:44,119 which is funny, Well, we've talked about this. Rocco has been 411 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,440 bad on one on one defense lately. He's been bad at it. It's 412 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,319 been really bad. He gets blown by. But if Tyler's doing these five 413 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:53,240 you know, these things where it's like, hey, we're not going to 414 00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:56,720 be able to beat him on defense, we might as well try and get 415 00:28:56,759 --> 00:29:00,880 some offense out there. All things considered, and the current version, Roko 416 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,880 should be over Morris because at least Rocco has some track record well and he 417 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,680 is a better defender around the rim. I'll give him that too. Like, 418 00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:11,039 if you want to run out those four guard line apps, makes a 419 00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:14,759 whole hell of a lot more sense to do it with Roco than to do 420 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,759 it with Morris. At this point, He's a much better defender than Marcus 421 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,400 Morris. No, he's getting deflections. He may be slow foot, everyone 422 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,680 talks about his one on one defense. Okay, he's still competing against Rand's 423 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,559 out there. He's still much better right now. I don't know what's happening 424 00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:34,240 with Marcus. What I can't understand is and I love coach Lou and I 425 00:29:34,359 --> 00:29:38,039 hope he's here for another decade because I believe in him, and I believe 426 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:44,279 the way he goes in rotations and has that coaching advantage over the guy across 427 00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:45,880 the way from him on the court. Because look, Monnie Williams. I 428 00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:51,039 was listening to a Sun's podcaster earlier today talking about the shortcomings of Monnie Williams 429 00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:56,799 and how it took him them losing Game one basically because of that stretch where 430 00:29:56,839 --> 00:30:00,079 he had Devin Booker on the floor with four role players, something that he 431 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,400 had been doing all season though, and was getting killed. So every coach 432 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,440 has their blind spot. Every coach has their issue. But my problem is, 433 00:30:07,519 --> 00:30:11,440 and this was the game that Marcus was pulled after this from being in 434 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,960 the rotation that game against the Pelicans, it was against Brandon Ingram and Marcus 435 00:30:17,079 --> 00:30:21,960 Morris was out there, starting defender against Brandon Ingram. How can you keep 436 00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:26,359 talking about having a defensive mentality to start ball games and Marcus Morris is on 437 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,359 Brandon Ingram and you know what happened. Look, it's just he can't guard 438 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,279 him right now. Not many can. Marcus Morris definitely can't in the condition 439 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,759 he's in. He gets cooked on him, and then they try to move 440 00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:41,400 on to Trey Murphy the third he ends up getting hot from the outside. 441 00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:45,400 He hits ten three pointers and the Clippers could never shut the faucet off after 442 00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:49,160 that. They lost that game by twenty one points after a hot shooting first 443 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,799 quarter where they just went right at Marcus Morris. I'm not blaming him, 444 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,759 and I understand it to a degree with coach Lew he trust him, He's 445 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,200 loyal to his guys, but in this case, backs against the wall, 446 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,400 I just want to see Terence Man get thirty five forty minutes. So this 447 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,119 is what my next point to kind of talk about for how the Clippers can 448 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:15,119 force Game six is the starters can't leak as many points as they've been leaking. 449 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,200 I know it's gonna be hard for the starters to win their minutes, 450 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,000 obviously, but if you look at the team's plus minus data, the worst 451 00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:27,240 offenders are the guys who've started Norm is it zero, So he's literally a 452 00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:32,559 net neutral. But Marcus Morris, who started two games and for all we 453 00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:36,880 know, is starting tomorrow, I don't know, there's nothing really to lead 454 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,880 us to believe that he won't. He's a team worst minus thirteen. Zoo 455 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:47,680 who's been rough minus nine and a half, Nico minus nine, Russ minus 456 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,799 six and a half, Gordon minus five. So like the Clippers starters, 457 00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:57,160 I think Joseph Fry Award said this, if the Clippers starters can lose by 458 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:02,799 like just five, like five to seven, then this bench has a chance 459 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,400 to kind of make things happen. But well, it all depends on what 460 00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:13,519 campaign, because it's possible. We haven't even talked about that. With campaign 461 00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:16,400 coming back, I think if that changes things, but I would say prior 462 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,680 to that, you know, money Williams did adjustice bench, but I would 463 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,200 say, like if the starters could keep it in just sub ten, right, 464 00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:29,440 like just a sub ten differential, I think your bench can you know, 465 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,920 over the course of you know, however many games that sends up going 466 00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:36,799 can still win you those minutes, because I do think the talent is that 467 00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:42,200 deep. Yeah, but yeah, that changes a little bit with campaign back. 468 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,519 I think that that's going to be a hard cover. You can't cover 469 00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:50,480 anyone though, attack campaign go right at him. He can't guard anyone but 470 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,759 the campaign. Yeah, we we that's a fact. We just can't train 471 00:32:54,839 --> 00:32:59,400 buckets though, and I feel like that that has been some of the emphasis 472 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,599 and some of the lineups. Two, it's sort of like bucket getters when 473 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,440 it's like, okay, guys, we're actually down like three possessions, just 474 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,000 trading buckets. Someone's getting the work from here on out, because that's what 475 00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:12,519 they wanted. Towards the end of Game four, you could kind of tell, 476 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,920 right like if the Clippers weren't hitting three as the Suns were perfectly content 477 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:20,240 to let the Clippers get to the rim and get their layup and it would 478 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,400 be good, and then the Suns would come down and pretty much have an 479 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:28,079 exact answer for it. So yeah, campaign, he's probable. He's probably 480 00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:31,519 coming back on that one. What's interesting, a lot of those negatives in 481 00:33:31,599 --> 00:33:36,559 there from the starters. It's happening in the second half because they are winning 482 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,720 the first quarter one every first quarter, I believe so far in this series. 483 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,759 But as time goes on, and this is kind of the battle and 484 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,880 race against time against this Sun's team. As the game goes on, you 485 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,480 know, you get a larger sample size and the talent just overcomes the Clippers 486 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,759 eventually, the talent discrepancy and the same thing is going to happen in the 487 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,160 series that way, because they're building up a little bit more continuity, a 488 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,599 little bit more familiarity, chemistry, and meshing a little bit more out there 489 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,679 the Phoenix Suns are, even though yes they're playing heavy minutes, I'm not 490 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,079 sure in the first round, which is having two days off, that's going 491 00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:15,960 to affect them that much. In Game five, could they be doa against 492 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,320 the Denver Nuggets should they move on to the second round. Maybe, I 493 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,039 think it catches up with them eventually, but I don't know if the Clippers 494 00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:23,880 are going to be the team to benefit from it enough. Yeah, your 495 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,000 boy, Greg asked on the stream, do we think it's too late? 496 00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:30,880 Even if you put Terence Man on the starting lineup, it depends not to 497 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,559 win a game a game, but I mean two Adam's point, Like, 498 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,480 you know, we talked about coming into this series, especially down Paul George, 499 00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:42,800 and I mean before even Kawhi went down, it was in the Clippers 500 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,159 best interest to say, if they were going to win this one, to 501 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,760 get out of it as early as possible, before this Sun's team really had 502 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,400 a chance to get together. And now, I mean you're looking at optimistically 503 00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:54,599 seven games if the Clippers are going to make a rally in this one, 504 00:34:55,039 --> 00:35:00,679 and I mean that raises serious questions. Even if we get one of our 505 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,360 two stars back, right, Like, with that much more continuity, sure 506 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,440 it'll be a different Clippers team. And I'm not saying that it wouldn't wouldn't 507 00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:08,960 obviously be a huge advantage. There's no way to say that it wouldn't. 508 00:35:09,159 --> 00:35:14,719 But that much more time for this Sun's team that had all of eight games 509 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:19,000 prior to the playoffs, that's a huge difference. I mean, them playing 510 00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:22,559 essentially double the amount of games now playoff tested is a different team than we 511 00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:29,840 were looking at coming into this series and to get okay, So who's gonna 512 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,960 cool off all the SUPs? Tory Craig has a cool off at some point. 513 00:35:32,159 --> 00:35:36,760 I think I don't know about that, but that's why I said, 514 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,800 I think, like how many points to the Clips got a score to get 515 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,519 this up, because I had the line of one fifteen. If the Clippers 516 00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:51,480 can't get near one fifteen, it's tough. I think probably one twenty. 517 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:57,599 Yeah, minimum was just not easy to do, even against a Sun's team 518 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,239 that hasn't been amazing defense of Lee. They gave up one hundred and twenty 519 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:06,000 four points in Game three. The Clippers were able to score on them. 520 00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:08,960 It was about slowing them down mostly in the second half, and they just 521 00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:15,519 weren't able to during stretches in the fourth quarter and third quarter when they were 522 00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:19,719 taking free throws a ton of them. It's hard. Well, I want 523 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,840 to go back to the starts with a little bit because we haven't talked a 524 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,559 ton about Zoo, and Zoo last game was getting part of it rightfully, 525 00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:30,760 so a bunch of hate. He finished with four and nine twenty four minutes 526 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:36,280 twenty two minutes on four twenty the day before. But it's just he doesn't 527 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,239 look the same. I don't know if it's just playoff basketball, but he's 528 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:44,400 a starter anyway, so he's he's playing starters. Like is it fatigue? 529 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,039 What is up? Because he's not helping us. After we argued with Carl 530 00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:52,599 Tart, he was he's a top ten regular season center, I think, 531 00:36:52,639 --> 00:36:54,320 but right now it feels like the playoffs or maybe it's just his version of 532 00:36:54,320 --> 00:37:01,039 the Clippers. Maybe he's tired of yet another you know, absence filled so 533 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:06,880 to speak, post he's run for the Clippers. I just think he's overthinking 534 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,480 things too much. There's too much on his plate, responsibility wise, on 535 00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:13,760 both ends, and it's getting the best of him. I wish he had 536 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:19,159 more responsibility on offense. Well, but then they have eight turnovers trying to 537 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,280 get the basketball to him the other night, Like, yeah, you know, 538 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,000 it hasn't worked out. He's having a rough after Game one. He's 539 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,239 just had a rough last three games. I don't know, Will, how 540 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,519 do you see you getting back on track? Because he's got to have a 541 00:37:32,639 --> 00:37:36,360 double double, right Like, if we're gonna win, if we're gonna take 542 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,880 it to Game six, he's got to be in double double. I mean, 543 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,159 I think it's been really hard on him, just like some of the 544 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:47,039 communication and maybe not getting the ball in the most advantageous spot a lot of 545 00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:51,480 new guys, He's got to be better on that end, and I think 546 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,880 that that'll translate defensively. I do want to contradict one thing that Adda talked 547 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,559 about it about the Clippers need to score one twenty plus. I really loved 548 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,880 with Clippers did in Game three, where granted some of it the turnovers especially 549 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,280 were uh not part of the game. We're not part of game, but 550 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,119 like really mucking things up and slowing things down and it was like fifty one 551 00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:15,159 all at the at the first half something like that. That is a that 552 00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:20,000 is an approach that is going to be very effective for the Clippers, especially 553 00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:22,199 like if they can make those shots super hard, you play out the math 554 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:27,000 on the on the mid range stuff, you you know, you're able to 555 00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:30,639 keep the fouls lower than they have been. UM. And that's the approach 556 00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:35,159 that we saw Taylou take with the Cavaliers and undermanned against the Warriors. UM. 557 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,920 But I you know, how sustainable is that, like with the level 558 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,119 of defenders that we have, I don't really know, but it wasn't even 559 00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:45,920 sustainable for entire game because they ended up they gave up one, they gave 560 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:51,559 up one twenty nine. After fifty one and a half, they gave up 561 00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:53,239 one twenty nine, so they gave up seventy and the second half. I 562 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,760 mean, I I but no, I You're right, that is the approach. 563 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,559 They played a great first half. I'm not saying they can't do it 564 00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:05,079 defensively. I'm just saying, realistically, they're probably gonna have to outscore them, 565 00:39:05,199 --> 00:39:07,880 and that means at least getting to one twenty. Yeah. I mean, 566 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:13,119 I'm that makes total sense. Like if we get a lockdown defensive performance, 567 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,880 I would love that, But I don't ty Luis, Yeah, I 568 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:21,719 don't think that's rotations we have in store, unfortunately. So what's our picks? 569 00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:23,400 Boys, who's gonna be the player of the game for this one? 570 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:28,920 Who's gonna take us to Game six? I'm ready for Nico to have one 571 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,679 good game. I'm on offense. I'm gonna put it all on the line. 572 00:39:31,679 --> 00:39:35,800 I'm gonna say Nico has one good offensive game in him. So he's 573 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:42,400 putting up twelve fifteen. Okay, he's gonna have to play more than six 574 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,440 minutes for that to happen. I'm just saying, like people are bagging on 575 00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:47,840 Nico. It's like, Okay, he played six minutes, he took one 576 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,119 shot, he's missed. He's one for ten in the series. It's not 577 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,960 like he's taken a ton of shots. So I'm not that concerned about him. 578 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,199 Of course, he's got to get him up. But if Marcus is 579 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:05,880 gonna play more than Nico and Rocco combined, it's Marcus is one for eight. 580 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,320 Yeah, that's I'm giving the thumbs up one of the thumbs down for 581 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,840 one for your listeners listening to this later. So, Adam, your pick 582 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:21,760 is Marcus Morris. I did not say that. I'm going Terrence Man. 583 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:28,719 Okay, how many minutes I hope. I hope forty, but I'll settle 584 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,920 for thirty three. I'll settle for thirty three minutes from Terence Man. He 585 00:40:32,039 --> 00:40:37,039 gets twenty points, he plays the first forty eighth straight. I'm down, 586 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,599 let's do it. Let's just run five. So you're going Terence Man, 587 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,920 I'm gonna go. Uh, who's by the way, shooting fifty four percent 588 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,239 from three in the series. Terrence Man. Well, so I would argue 589 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,360 that's actually bad to make war shots. Um, I would go hot take 590 00:40:54,719 --> 00:41:00,039 Tylu. Tylu supports surprise performer of the night tomorrow. We're not gonna see 591 00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:05,440 Marcus Morris. We're gonna see Robert Covington used a normal doses, it's not 592 00:41:05,519 --> 00:41:10,000 gonna be weird, and we're gonna see you know, a tight Lee Sean 593 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:15,519 when things aren't happening for some certain guys. So I'm going Tylu performer. 594 00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:17,440 And I also because he literally has to be. We need Russell Westbrook to 595 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:22,159 have a thirty point triple double. I can't believe I'm saying that as in 596 00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:25,320 April as a Clippers fan. We need the Russ thirty point triple double. 597 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,719 We need the best game that Tyler has coached all season because we don't have 598 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,800 anybody and we need Marcus Morris to not play. I don't know how likely, 599 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,079 really, the last one seems like the hardest one. He said he's 600 00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:43,480 got a few more wrinkles coach Lou, So it's now or never. I 601 00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:49,000 guess here's the new wrinkle. Moosa plum Zoo Terrence Rocco who says no to 602 00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:52,079 that lineup the last game of the season, who says I wouldn't mind seeing 603 00:41:52,199 --> 00:41:55,639 Brandon Boston get a couple of minutes. I'm here coffee. Why not, 604 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,159 Well, if you need scoring, I just I don't know, it's irrational. 605 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,960 There's not much evidence on Brandon Boston this season. I just if things 606 00:42:05,039 --> 00:42:08,679 get out of hand early, we may see some wonky lineups. I'll tell 607 00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:13,280 you what I don't want to see is the early white flag. Yeah, 608 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,400 if things get out of hand early, I do not want to see the 609 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,639 early white flag. I'm not saying we'd see it. From the players, 610 00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:22,440 Phoenix is favored by twelve. By the way, it's a big number. 611 00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:27,119 It is a big number. They're expecting them to close things out because the 612 00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:30,039 other side of it is they're trying to get rest before death. They know 613 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:36,000 there's a sense of urgency to get this series over with. Damn well. 614 00:42:36,039 --> 00:42:38,199 I hope Bones and Brandon Boston Junior are playing together so we can have the 615 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:45,440 probably the wonkiest height to weight ratio and the history of NBA backcourts between Bones 616 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:50,480 and Brandon Boston Junior. I'd love to see Bones go off and get another 617 00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:53,000 twenty. I love they need it. Yeah, we need we need like 618 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,920 three people score twenty tomorrow, So we think the Clips are gonna win though, 619 00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,920 right, it's gonna come back. We're all going to be in there, 620 00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:04,280 gonna be at Staples on Thursday. I'll see you guys. There's our 621 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,079 damn minds. All right, let's go coming up. We're gonna be talking 622 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:12,559 a fairly weird interaction on the Paul George podcast. We got ads coming up, 623 00:43:12,559 --> 00:43:14,199 so if they've been lad for you, go ahead and turn it down, 624 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,760 ads. And then we got to talk podcast PE caught up in three 625 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,760 two one. All right, so we're back in on Clips and Dip. 626 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,440 We're live over on YouTube that's at Clippers Podcast and on Twitter that's at Clippers 627 00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:30,559 Pod. We talked a little bit about what the Clippers need to do to 628 00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:35,519 avoid elimination Game five versus the Suns. But we gotta talk a little bit 629 00:43:35,639 --> 00:43:39,239 about an off color sort of interaction that happened on the podcast p podcast. 630 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:45,679 It ended up getting and tweeted out and then I believe subsequently got deleted if 631 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,719 I'm being correct there. But Charles, why don't you break this down for 632 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:54,800 what's going on in the podcast PE podcast Cinematic Universe. You know, if 633 00:43:54,840 --> 00:44:00,880 I'm not listening, So they had a segment where they were talking about like 634 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:05,000 talent and like what talent means. It was specifically about Lonzo ball I do 635 00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:07,639 you know this much? Yes, And one of Paul George's co hosts was 636 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:17,760 arguing that staying healthy was a talent to Paul George, which Paul George, 637 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,760 you can see He's like, it's not a talent. He kind of gives 638 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,079 him a smirk. He's like, it is a talent. And then Paul 639 00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:28,000 George goes on to say that staying healthy is a work ethic thing, which 640 00:44:28,039 --> 00:44:30,280 I'm also like, that doesn't make any sense, like because I don't think 641 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:36,199 Paul George and quite don't work hard. It was just an example I think 642 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:42,320 of kind of why I think that Paul George podcasts like kind of an insane 643 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,159 idea. You get stuff like this He's talking about, like injuries are a 644 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,599 work ethic thing. That's crazy. His own co host is like, no, 645 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,239 man, it's a talent thing. And Paul George's like, oh, 646 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:57,039 yeah, I'm not talented enough. That's why I've had all these injuries, 647 00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,039 man, Like the majority of injuries are just like such a it's just such 648 00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:05,079 a freak happenstance. Like all this stuff that ends up being like the most 649 00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:09,840 impactful is it's just some kind of little thing that could happen at literally any 650 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:15,440 moment of any game, and you know, it just doesn't end up rolling 651 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,000 your way and the lonto things like that. That whole knee surgery saga. 652 00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:22,880 I mean, that's that insane, Like that's that's such that's such bizarre happenstance. 653 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,000 There's no level of talent that that can prepare for that. There's no 654 00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:30,079 work ethic that's going to get you around that. I mean, it's just 655 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,719 like, well, if you're saying, like talent physiological, what's the word, 656 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,400 I'm looking for physiologic body stuff, I'm gonna find it. I'm gonna 657 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:46,960 find it poogal human physiology. Thank you for the assist uh Oslin just is 658 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,519 what it is. You know, there there's limitations to the human body, 659 00:45:50,559 --> 00:45:54,719 and I think that, uh, there's nothing that's subverting that. Do they 660 00:45:54,840 --> 00:46:00,440 mean talent as in, there's some talent stuff you're just born with. It's 661 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:06,639 innate and some guys are less injury prone than others just by happenstance. Um, 662 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,480 they touched on that, Yes, but that was not his because that 663 00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:12,840 I believe, and there are some guys who are just like you've you know, 664 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,400 you've seen guys just get destroyed and they just pop right back up, 665 00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:19,239 like yeah, I'm totally fine. Um, there's any like styles of play 666 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,960 that that you know, probably lend themselves. Uh, you know, it's 667 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,599 the John Walls, it's the it's the Derrick Ross thing, right. Yeah, 668 00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:29,000 everyone knew that the way he landed there was going to be some rough 669 00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:31,239 knee stuff. And yeah, I mean there's like probably styles of play that 670 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:36,599 are a little bit more, but Russ has been like as reckless as you 671 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,480 could be, reckless, abandoned going to the hoop, and he's on the 672 00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:42,000 other side of it. He had one knee injury with what had happened with 673 00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:45,119 Patrick Beverley, and he's still so freaking explosive. Yeah, so it's just 674 00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:50,320 a freak accident thing. It's just like oh no, uh, we gotta 675 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,599 comment from YouTube that said fifty one percent chance Tie is gone next year. 676 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:59,000 Um, I think fifty one is actually fair. We're not gonna do our 677 00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:01,760 like Postmoward on the Clippers thing yet, but we still got gay. Yeah, 678 00:47:02,199 --> 00:47:06,480 like as like a little sneak preview. I mean, it seems like 679 00:47:06,639 --> 00:47:09,400 in a lot of situations when things aren't working with players, it's a whole 680 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,920 lot easier to you know, pat yourself on the back and hire a new 681 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,559 coach than it is to truly clean house. So that's all that I'm gonna 682 00:47:16,559 --> 00:47:22,639 say on that for right now. Up. Yeah, damn, okay, 683 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:28,440 Okay, that tease. Um. There were a bunch of Clippers fans that 684 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:35,159 were upset that Houston hired Udoka. Um. I don't Yeah, I don't 685 00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:37,840 know that. Yes, that one, but I don't know if that was 686 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:42,719 ever going to happen. I don't think the Clippers were ever in the hunt 687 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,320 for that. For email, Like, I'm just not everybody. It's not 688 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,199 the market where you can do something like that, like Houston. I'm not 689 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,559 saying it's like the smallest market, but it's not the same cultural climate as 690 00:47:53,679 --> 00:47:58,480 Los Angeles is, and that something like that is. I just I just 691 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,800 doesn't want to deal with that. Yeah, I just don't think that that 692 00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:07,920 sort of pr would would really um quiet down here. Yeah, I think 693 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,559 that's and again Balmer doesn't want to like and once again I don't know all 694 00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:14,599 the details of the case. I'm not like making any statements on anything. 695 00:48:14,679 --> 00:48:17,599 I'm just saying that that is the sort of thing that would and could sink 696 00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:22,480 a Los Angeles fan base. Yeah, totally. I mean we talked to 697 00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:31,159 me. Adam disagrees. I don't disagree. I believe in men. We're 698 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:37,320 done with the lives, all right. Do we have any closing thoughts as 699 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:44,400 Clippers fans, you know, tuck themselves in light their prayer candles, sage 700 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,480 their apartments or homes if they're you know, doing real well. Before we 701 00:48:47,639 --> 00:48:54,119 get to potentially the final game of the Clipper season, they need a performance 702 00:48:54,199 --> 00:48:58,440 like they had taken on Kadie and the Warriors in that Game five an Oracle 703 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,920 Arena where they were supposed to get run over, they were supposed to get 704 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,679 I bet the line was huge that game too. Everybody expected the Golden State 705 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,199 Warriors after letting the Clippers come back down thirty one in Game two, they 706 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:12,440 were just going to stomp on them, and they snuck out another win in 707 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,920 their building. They can do it. They can win one game with these 708 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,679 guys. Do I think they can win the series of choir? Paul George 709 00:49:17,679 --> 00:49:21,360 doesn't come back win three in a row. No, but they can win 710 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,320 Game five. They can do it, especially if you put the pressure on 711 00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:28,239 them. Get a lead again in the first quarter, get off to a 712 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,000 quick start, make the Phoenix Suns feel the pressure. Kevin Durant was clacking 713 00:49:32,039 --> 00:49:36,599 stuff on the side of the backboard in Game three when they had no business 714 00:49:36,679 --> 00:49:38,440 only being up a couple of points against the Clippers. In that game when 715 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,960 it was tight, Suns look tight out there. They didn't look great. 716 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,800 Well, can you add to that? Are you hyped? The Clippers gonna 717 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:52,280 get this thing doneps? All right, get it done? Will says he 718 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,440 is hyped, and they're gonna get it done. Well, we will have 719 00:49:53,559 --> 00:49:58,639 a double dip for y'all. Oll run am five seventy. I believe Adam 720 00:49:58,679 --> 00:50:04,360 will have the pre covered prem postgame UM tripod on Wednesday. Not sure if 721 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,880 we'll be able to, you know, get all of our thoughts, depending 722 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,360 whatever happens tomorrow, but we're doing a tripod on Wednesday for sure, hoping 723 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,840 that one's a Game six preview. If I'm being honest, that's just me. 724 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,199 Don't know about these guys, um, But yeah, we hope we 725 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:21,920 got everyone's doing well. Well, where can these wonderful people review us, 726 00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:25,480 So you can review us over on the podcast app, also over on Spotify. 727 00:50:25,559 --> 00:50:29,320 Now, if you gave us review, hey, it really help us 728 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,239 out. Five stars would be appreciated, but we'll read your review on air. 729 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,360 Either way. 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