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Hey, parents, kids like us
have a problem and it's one that you

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can help solve. But most parents
aren't even aware the problem exists. Here's

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the issue. Most schools today aren't
teaching young kids some really important concepts,

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like how the economy works, or
what our rights are, or the definition

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of true laws. For you were
born, schools often taught the principles of

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a free society, but not anymore. That's why our parents have us read

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the title Twins. These books teach
children about economic and civic truths that we

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need to learn, and there's nothing
else like them in the world. Each

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book covers a different topic, helping
us learn how the world really were.

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For example, these books teach kids
things like how the free market is the

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kid of prosperity, the history of
the money we use, what our rights

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are and why we should protect them, how kids can be entrepreneurs. I

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definitely want to be my own bosson
day, and these books will help.

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Kids like us absolutely love these books, maybe because they don't treat us like

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little children. Instead, they help
us learn important ideas and develop critical thinking

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skills. Chances are your kids are
missing out on learning these things, especially

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in a way that's fun and enjoyable
for the whole family. And even better,

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when you buy the set, you
also get me awesome activity workbooks for

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free. Now listen, there are
a lot of crazy ideas out there,

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and you need to prepare your kids. Yeah, if you want to as

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a freethinker, you're gonna need something
that teaches about freedom. So purchase your

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books now, but be careful.
Your kids will learn ideas that many adults

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don't even understand. It makes for
some really interesting dinner conversations. Those kids

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are cute, but I bet yours
are cuter, and imagine how much they'll

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enjoy the books. So what are
you waiting for? The Lincoln Grab your

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sect. Joining us now is Connor
Boyak, and I'm really excited to talk

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to him. I've had a lot
of people ask me about tell me I

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should know who the Tuttle Twins are. We don't have young kids or grandkids,

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so I didn't know it yet.
But a great series for homeschoolers.

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And of course he's also involved with
the Libertas Institute and they've done a lot

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at the state level in Utah,
so I want to talk to him about

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that as well. So homeschooling topics
and he's got other books that he's written

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besides the children's books. So joining
us now as Conner Connor boy, I

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thank you for joining us, Connor, thanks for having me. It's great,

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too great to have you on those
two kids there there. It says

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in your bio that you've got homeschool
two kids. Where there's your kids that

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are in that video. That's correct. Yeah, I thought so there's a

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better are very very cute, really
enjoyed that. And good salespeople. What's

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that they're they're good at sales.
They help promote well, it's a good

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example of what you've been able to
create with homes going. Tell us a

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little bit first about the Tuttle Twin
books. So, these are children's books

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that teach the ideas of human flourishing, what healthy societies look like. We're

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talking entrepreneurship, sound money, property
rights, personal freedom, the dangers of

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socialism and central planning and so forth. And so these are story based books

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that allow kids to access these often
adult level complex ideas. People often ask

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me what age. Therefore my go
to answer is our children's series we have

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we have told their books, we
have books for teens, but we're best

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known for our children's series. So
my answer to them is they're about for

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age five to ten and members of
Congress that that's kind of the running gag.

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We sold over five million copies.
We have a cartoon now, all

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kinds of stuff, and it's heavily
of interest with homeschoolers. I should also

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note we have a huge contingent of
our audience where they their kids go to,

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you know, public school, private
school, charter school. And for

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those families, you know, the
homeschool families are using it more as like

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curriculum, like hey, we're going
to learn American history, or we're gonna

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learn, you know, economics.
For the public schoolers, private schoolers,

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their parents are recognizing that their children
are not getting these ideas in the school,

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and so it's a supplement. I
might almost even say it's a counter

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agent because they know that not only
are the kids not getting it in school,

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they're getting opposite type of ideas victim
mentality and and and entitlement mentality and

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so forth. So so they're broad
appeal to families and and really trying to

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fill this void that's been in the
marketplace for resources that can help pa talk

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to their kids about real world ideas
and what that means for them. And

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we were homeschooling our kids, you
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ago or whatever, and uh,
you know, and so we would go

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down and we would look at we'd
go to a Barnes and Noble and take

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a look at what your first grader
needs to know, your second grader needs

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to know, and we would do
a lot of counter programming, just like

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you talked about. You know,
they say, well, this is what

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we're teaching the kids, and it's
like they need to understand how the you

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know, what this is. We're
not going to just ignore it. We

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need to define this for them and
counter it. But I think that and

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then we also, you know,
just kind of kept an eye out for

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where they needed to be. But
I think that's a real important thing.

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But I think the most important thing
is to have a positive vision. You

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know, we don't want to just
be negative, but we do want to

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say, now, this is reality
here and have it in mind the other

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stuff that they're being taught us.
It's great to see that there's this type

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of resource. And you said a
cartoon is that with the Tough Twin Show

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is a cartoon that's correct. So
we partnered with Angel Studios. They're best

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known for doing the Chosen or Sound
of Freedom, and so we partnered with

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them. We already have a season
and a half complete and out, free

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to watch, no cost, no
sign up. You just go to Angel

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Studios on your favorite app platform,
your Apple, TV, your Roku,

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your phone, whatever. And it's
funny these cartoons. The whole writing team,

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it's me and a bunch of comedians, and so they come up with

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funny jokes and really make this an
entertaining show for the whole family, where

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we then kind of sprinkle in these
ideas of freedom, but just have a

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lot of fun. So that's a
blast, and we hope that it just

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we turn it into the new Simpsons
where there's like thirty seasons, but enriching

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content, not this dumb down stupid
stuff, but like really informative, enriching

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content, but also super fun for
the whole family. That's really good.

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Yeah, I was just saying,
I noticed somebody say, you can't win

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the culture Wars if you don't have
a culture. We have to produce content,

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and so that's what's really important with
the Tuttle Twins, with your Tuttle

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Twins show and the rest of this
stuff. We need to we've lost this

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ability again to define what culture really
should look like in a positive vision of

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politics, economics, and just what
society looks like. That that's really really

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important. Let's talk a little bit
about libertas. Tell us what is going

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on with the think tank there.
And you've had a lot of effects on

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laws. Your bio says that you've
had about one hundred laws that have been

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changed there in Utah. And I
think that's important because of the focus on

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what is happening at the state level, because I think that federal government is

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gone, and I think we need
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level. We saw this especially in
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really mattered. We're having good local
officials. They can make things much worse

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or much better throughout this lockdown all
the rest of this stuff. So tell

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us a little bit about what is
going on at the state level. You

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know, I think it's a tragedy
of our civic system where everyone's attention is

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drawn to the level of government that
they can impact the least. Everyone is

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so focused on the federal issues,
national crises, congressional stupidity. And I'm

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not saying don't pay attention. I'm
not saying you need to completely shut it

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off. But everyone's energy is so
focused on talking about and complaining about what's

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happening at the national level, where
the average person has statistically zero influence.

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The contrast to that is when you
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you can have a disproportionately high impact. So I cut my teeth politically working

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on Mike Lee's campaign when he first
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two thousand and nine and ten.
So I was one of like five or

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six people on his early campaign.
There were a dozen other candidates. You

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know, we got Mike through the
primary and got elected, and we remain

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good friends and talked often. But
here's a guy who has wanted to go

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support the constitution and limited government and
restrain you know, government largesse. And

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I love Mike, but he and
everyone who believes like him have been woefully

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unsuccessful because you know, the system
is stacked against you. Meanwhile, so

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you know Mike's up in Congress doing
this thing. Meanwhile, I work here

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in the state capitol level, and
as you pointed out, we've changed in

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the same amount of time, less
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Not to pick on him, but
just to use that story as an

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example. We changed like over a
one hundred laws. We've got a ton

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of amazing legal reforms passed to protect
people's freedoms and so forth. And it's

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it's not that hard. I'm not
an attorney by training. I'm not an

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economist. I used to build websites
for a living and I launched this nonprofit

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and kind of pivoted and kind of
changed my career trajectory. But I have

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no formal training in this. If
I can do it, anybody else can

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do it. And it's amazing.
You think of your city council. You

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go to city council meetings. Who's
there Maybe a couple of boy scouts,

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maybe the miss you know whatever,
pageant queen, maybe a few developers trying

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to get you know, zoning approvals
and stuff, and nobody else. More

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importantly, there's no journalists anymore,
because the whole newspaper model has been blown

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up and these guys can't afford to
have people sitting in city council meetings to

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play the watchdog role, which means
that no one's paying attention. These people

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are getting away with a lot.
And if you just show up, if

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you just ask questions, if you
just show them that you're watching, you

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can have a big impact. And
so I spend a lot of my time

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inviting people, pleading with people,
you know, turn down the national news

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pay attention a lot less. It's
it's I think, really designed just to

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get this class warfare, constant battle
and distraction going on. I'll recommend a

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resource to your audience. So you
mentioned Liberti's Institute, which is our organization

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in Utah. We work across the
country and a lot of stuff, but

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primarily in Utah. There's a group
and I believe every single state from a

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conservative libertarian perspective, working on state
level policy. Here's where your viewers can

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find out about that. The organization
i'll point you to is called State Policy

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Network and their website very simply is
SPN dot org State Policy Network and they've

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got a map there directory that you
can click on. Find your map,

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find the group working in your state, subscribe to their newsletter, their email,

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follow them on social media, go
to their events, you know,

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donate and support them. These are
the people working in the trenches in your

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state, and it's very easy for
people to go get involved and be a

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part of it. That's so important
and that is really good. The State

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Policy Network SPN dot org. Now
you pronounce it differently, and I thought,

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I thought it would be libertas.
You pronounce it lebertas or so.

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When I started this organization, I
went to a linguist and I said,

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how would how would the Romans have
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You said, well, there's two
schools of thought. There's the Germanic like

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libertass, which, to be fair, is what ninety five percent of Americans

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pronounce it as. And then there's
the think of like the Italian the Romantic

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language is libertas. And I was
like, oh, that sounds texy.

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I want to do that. So
so we say libertas and everyone else says

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libertass. But I'm a libertarian,
so I don't care how you pronounce it.

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That's great. So tell us you
know when you go to the state

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level. And I know from the
standpoint of what I've seen when we were

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homeschooling our kids. We're in North
Carolina, and I know there was a

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constant battle, especially at the very
beginning from the teacher's union to try to

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shut it down, and this very
powerful union with a lot of connections to

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state government was shut down by letter
writing campaign by grassroots organizations. I know

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that they look at this stuff by
the pound, and you know you're not

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necessarily going to change these people's minds
about with an argument, but they're looking

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at the quantity of responses that they
get and that does have a big impact

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on them. What type of what
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terms of working at the state level. You said going to the meetings and

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that type of thing, But give
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when you get involved in this.
So here's how the average person, any

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of your viewers, can be impactful. A little pro tip that few people

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do, and if anyone wants to
get involved make a difference without a lot

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of time. Here are a couple
ideas that have a huge leverage in terms

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of your time versus your impact.
Number One, gather ten or fifteen friends

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at your home for a little cottage
meeting, have some dessert, and invite

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your local state senator or state representative
or mayor or city councilman to come speak

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to your group, super easy.
These people love to talk about themselves,

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by the way, so they will
take you up on the offer. Food

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attracts everybody. And more importantly,
what's happening here is you are fostering a

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relationship with that politician to show them
two things. Number One, you're creating

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value for them by giving them an
audience of people to talk to and get

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support from. But number two,
you're showing them that you are a connector

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you're an organizer. Right. The
worst thing that you can do in politics

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is go up and say I don't
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law. You're one person with an
opinion. They're not going to pay attention

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to you. By contrast, if
you start an organ Let's say you have

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your cottage meeting and you call it
Connor's Cottage Meeting on Mondays, right,

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and that's the name of your group. And I go up to the capital

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or a city hall and say,
hey, I represent an association, a

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cottage meeting group where a lot of
us get together and blah blah blah,

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we're really concerned about this and this
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we'd like you to vote against it. You've shifted it from I to we.

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It's not I think this, it's
we think this. They don't know

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if there's a thousand people in your
group or five, and they don't need

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to know. The point is that
you're you're It's like those animals that when

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a predator approaches, they like puff
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like signal that they're dangerous. That's
what you need to do. If you're

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the average person, you need to
puff up a bit and show them that

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you mean business. So do a
cottage, meaning super simple. Do it

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once a year, do it once
a quarter, and invite different local you

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know, politicians or people and rotate
them through. Okay, number two,

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take a politician to lunch. Don't
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if it's the legislatures in session,
then maybe wait a while. But but

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you just said, because everyone's got
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through like how can you create value
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do this, I would find my
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see what bills he's been running or
what he's been working on, and I

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would email him and or text him, and I would say, hey,

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I really love this bill that you
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talking with some friends of mine and
some stakeholders. I've got some ideas for

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how you can actually improve this or
something else related you can do, or

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whatever. Could I take you to
lunch? And very often they will say

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yes. Now they will say yes
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connector. So if you do step
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cottage meeting, the networking, and
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be very more successful. This doesn't
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time. But this all boils down
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business. This is why lobbyists are
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When you just show up to the
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raise your fist and say, you
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all know that you're just going to
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and they all have like you're not
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You're not going to be watched dogging
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have relationships, when I text a
legislator like, hey, I got questions

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about that vote you just made,
or hey, are you going to work

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on that bill? They know that
I'm out there not only watching that,

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but talking to a ton of people
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not going away, and that I
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helpful to them or harmful to them. So the average citizen, you want

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to get involved, you've got to
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just a few of the very easy, low cost, low time ways that

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I think the average citizen could start
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and of course that is a key
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connecting to politicians, but you're also
making connections with the people that are going

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to be meeting with you. And
having that community doesn't just magnify you to

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the politicians, but that's a real
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depending on what is going to come
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really need to have those local communities. That's so important in so many different

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ways. Tell us a little bit
about what you have focused on these hundred

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laws that you've got changed. What
have you focused on there? I know

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you're conservative libertarian focus. What types
of things have you guys been able to

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get through there. I'll give you
a small and example, and then I'll

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give you a more weighty and substantive
one. So the small and silly example.

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A few years ago, we saw
some headlines across the country where little

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kids lemonade stands were getting shut down
for not having a business license or a

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food handler's permit. And you know, one of the stories, it was

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a four year old girl selling fifty
cent cups of lemonade along the path of

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like a five k near her home
and mom was sitting there obviously she was

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only four, and the food safety
whoever you showed up and oh, you

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don't have a permit? Costs eighty
five dollars. That's one hundred and seventy

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cups of lemonade just to break even
on a permission slip let alone the rest

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of your expenses. So we saw
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ridiculous. We go up to our
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bill and it passed I think unanimously, are close to unanimously, which now

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says that if you are under eighteen
in Utah, you do not need any

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license, any permit. You don't
have to collect and remit sales taxes like

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literal a literal free market, or
miners to encourage them to be entrepreneurs.

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You know, let's let's let them
wait until they're eighteen before the crushing weight

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of the state comes upon them and
all its taxes and regulations. But at

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least to all they're miners. Now
they're free. We've helped a few other

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states past similar laws, but Utah's
remains the gold standards. That's that's a

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example. That's great. That's not
that's a really fundamental thing. And that's

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that's such a great idea. And
what legislator is going to want to go

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out there and be the screwge that
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license from these miners. That's a
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Okay, So here's the other example. Let's say I'm Elon Musk and I

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have a car company, Tesla,
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I don't want to have car dealerships. I want to sell my cars directly

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to individuals, a direct to consumer
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of states, including my own of
Utah, it was illegal. It was

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literally against the law to sell cars, for a corporation to sell a card

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directly, or a manufacturer to sell
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the car dealers are very politically connected, and over the years they've gotten all

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these laws passed saying that you have
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have to do it this way,
and you have to pass these inspections.

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So I'm Elon Musk and I'm thinking, well, what do I do.

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Well, I've got a lot of
money, so I can hire lobbyists,

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and I can hire lawyers, and
I can go sue and I can go

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lobby to get the laws change.
That's what Elon and his buddies did,

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right. They were able. They
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process. Like in Utah for example, they had to go to the state

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Supreme Court and they were battling until
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Now imagine by contrast that I'm poor
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a business idea. I'm sitting at
my kitchen table scribbling this idea on the

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back of a napkin, and I'm
like, this is awesome. I pull

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up Google, I start research low
and behold, my awesome idea is against

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the law. There's some thirty five
year old arcane law on the books that

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prevents me from doing what I want. I have no huge life savings,

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I don't know any lobbyists and lawyers. I have no network, no connections,

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no leverage. I abandon my idea
and move on. My American dream

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goes poof because of my inability to
muscle through the process. What we innovated,

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what we got past in Utah,
and we've helped dozens of other states

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work on this as well, is
a concept called a regulatory sandbox. What

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this is, let's use this tradesman
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So Bob's got this business idea.
Bob can now apply to the state to

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come into the regulatory sandbox, and
he can pinpoint a law that or a

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regular or a regulation that stands in
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preventing me from launching this business.
The regulators will talk. They'll have an

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opportunity to review his quest to be
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years so that he can do R
and D. Or he can go to

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market right and start to prove and
collect data, like, hey, there's

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no consumer harm, there's no lawsuits, there's no nothing. Can we get

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rid of this regulation, right because
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and so it's a way to develop
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almost under a lower regulated environment.
The chief problem that we've seen over the

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last decade is we'll go up to
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That we passed the country's first and
only food truck freedom law to knock

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down all these local regulations and zoning
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guys, the world will be so
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to just operate where they want and
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restrictions and so forth. And then
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they say, oh, no local
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our cities to ban food trucks and
to say that they can't operate within half

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a mile of a restaurant because competition
is horrible. Whatever. You're a legislator,

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you're trapped in the middle of the
free market guys with their talking points

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and the incumbent industry protectionists with their
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the sky will fall or it will
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They can say, well, let's
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works, and put these people in
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or two, gather some data,
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should we amend that regulation or law, should we fully repeal it?

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become the first state to have a
right regulatory sandbox any business, any industry,

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any size. And now we've helped
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programs as well to promote entrepreneurship and
innovation. Level the playing field, so

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it's not just the elon musks that
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little guy has a shot to launch
their American dream. Yeah, that's very

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important, coach, the people who
got there already, you know, they

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always want to solve the lower rungs
of the ladder of success so that you

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can't get started with it. That's
a great approach. Let's talk a little

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bit about what do we do about
what is looming over the horizon. We've

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got so many things that we see
being pushed from the international level down to

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the national level, and the Biden
administration all of these regulations trying to take

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away appliances, just just basic conveniences
that we've taken for granted for a very

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long time. And now since we
took them for granted, the federal government

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is looking to take them away.
And so you know, there's this big

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push. Most of the stuff is
now coming on the basis of climate.

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They want to take cars, they
want to take appliances, and on and

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on. Is there anything that you're
working on there in Utah to address that

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type of you know, confiscatory regulations
that a lot of it are coming from

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the EPA, but you know,
any anything that's coming from the federal level.

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I know here in Tennessee where I
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when it comes to a lot of
the regulations about transgender type of things,

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they said, well, we're willing
to forego two billion dollars worth of bribery

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in order to do things the way
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And that really is the way that
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the process. As they don't have
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they will bribe local and state governments
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So how do we how do we
tackle this looming monster that's being pushed

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down on top of us? Oh
man, you are hitting all the buttons.

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Such a challenge. By the way, in Tennessee, I would encourage

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you to look up the Beacon Center. They are the think tank there in

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Tennessee. They do an awesome job. I will thank you. They would

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be great to connect with. Now, what you're talking about is so tough

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because there's so many disincentives for people
to engage in the process. I think

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of the road, like there's this
meme floating around the internet right now.

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How often do men think about the
Roman Empire? You know, and everyone's

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kind of joking about it right now. I think about it quite often,

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and in particular that the aspect of
bread and circuses, where they would often

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uh, you know, feed the
citizenry, have you know, gladiators and

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all these big spectacles designed to distract
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A distracted society is a disengaged society, in particular with the federal regulations that

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you're talking about. I am a
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What are those things. Yes,
state interposition is the state coming in

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between you and the federal government to
say, no, we're we're shielding Connor

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from that you know gun control law
that Connor passed, or you know people

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like Connor not just a single individual, but but the state interposes itself and

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passes a conflicting law to say no, we're not going to force this.

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You know, we're going to protect
you, and our attorney general will be

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you know, go sue the government
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So the state can interpose itself to
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that, a state nullification. There's
a fantastic book written about a decade or

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so ago by Tom Woods called Nullification
that gets into the American history of what

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this is. This is basically when
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feds and the Feds pass some law. Let's say it's an EPA thing,

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and imagine Tennessee the legislature getting together
and passing a resolution and saying in this

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state that EPA regulation is null and
void. We will not enforce it,

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we will not tolerate it, we
will not allow any federal officials to enforce

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it within our state. And it
is the state asserting itself. Here's our

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chief problem. Ever since the Civil
War, the Union of States has changed

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from a voluntary union into this serfdom
like subservient status where state legislatures see themselves

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as subunits of the federal government.
We now have a national government where it

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controls and regulates the states. The
states do not assert their own authority.

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They do not stand up under the
tenth Amendment that you pointed out and the

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ninth Amendment to say that these are
our rights. We did not delegate this

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to you. There's so many fantastic
stories here, especially from like the Kentucky

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and Virginia resolutions with Jefferson and Madison
when they were basically given the middle finger

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to John Adams and the Federalist Party
and trying to undermine what they were doing

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by getting state legislatures to say we
are not going to comply. There are

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modern examples. Think of medical marijuana. Federal law still says that cannabis is

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illegal, and most states have given
the middle finger to the Feds, and

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the Feds have just, you know, decided to not enforce it, and

407
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they've had their Attorney general memos and
their things, but it's still on the

408
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books. And that's the power of
what the states can do. By contrast,

409
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here's another example that I'm sure your
audience well, that one before we

410
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leave marijuana was excellent because you know
that I love that one because the left

411
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are the ones who've been doing the
nullification and they're the first ones to scream

412
00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:12.279
racism and this is about slavery or
whatever, you know, when you start

413
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.960
nullifying, and so that really nullifies
the left as well when you use that

414
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:19.039
as an example, because this is
a Schedule one drug and they say there's

415
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absolutely no use for it if you
point out more than half of the states

416
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or they either have a medical exemption
or recreational exemption. Jeff Sessions, that

417
00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:32.920
was a key issue with him,
but he wouldn't touch it because he knew

418
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:37.079
that he didn't have the constitutional authority
for that. That's an excellent example.

419
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:41.119
Yeah, go ahead, next one, here's an unfortunate one. By contrast,

420
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:44.559
so medical marijuana is kind of a
winning one in terms of state sovereignty,

421
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:48.480
states standing up for themselves. Here's
a losing one, real ID.

422
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:52.759
When Congress over a decade ago,
past the real ID Act, this National

423
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:59.839
Driver's License National ID there was a
huge uproar, massive uproar across the country.

424
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State legislatures were passing resolutions, were
passing laws. They were standing up

425
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:08.680
and and nullifying. They were giving
a middle finger to the Feds. And

426
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so the Feds retreated and they,
okay, you know, we lost the

427
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:15.559
battle. And what did they do
you mentioned it a moment ago. They

428
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bribed the states into compliance. Over
the next decade, not not wholesale,

429
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:27.960
but piecemeal. They would attach financial
incentives to particular aspects of the real ID

430
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:33.519
Act, even though you know what, it was no longer being passed reinforced,

431
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:37.279
and they would bribe the states into
compliance, and the states, eager

432
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.000
for money, these politicians, wanting
more money for their programs, would say,

433
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:44.240
okay, yeah, we'll do that. Okay, yeah, we'll do

434
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:47.839
that. You fast forward a decade
and now, like you know, I

435
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:51.279
travel the airport all the time,
my driver's license has this stupid you know,

436
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:55.440
yellow star at the top. Now
that means real ID compliant. My

437
00:30:55.640 --> 00:30:59.359
state over a decade ago stood up
and said no, and now I have

438
00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:03.559
a driver's license from my state that
is real ID compliance. Isn't it interesting

439
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.880
that they did the yellow star.
It seems like there's some point in history

440
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:12.559
where that was used. Things like, I should you know it's a it's

441
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:18.480
a white star inside of a yellow
circle. I guess off. No one's

442
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:22.960
described to me. When I changed
we moved here, it was described to

443
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:26.039
me because we did that about two
years ago. It's described me as a

444
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:27.240
yellow star. You know, they
described it the same way, and I

445
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:34.680
thought, I don't really want a
yellow star. Watchful. These people are

446
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:40.400
persistent, they are patient, They
have the long view in mind, and

447
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:44.799
so we like think of the tea
party, right tarp and the bank bellouts

448
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:48.880
and everyone's like, you know,
all these conservatives erupted. The tea party

449
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:52.039
is a huge thing. There's tea
party, patriots, tea party, nonprofits,

450
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:56.200
tea party, everything, and two
or three years later nothing that they

451
00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:00.400
went back to sleep, They went
back to work and family and everything.

452
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.960
Like we you know, people on
the right focus on that actually improves our

453
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:08.480
society, but they disengage politically.
These these eliteists, these leftists, everybody

454
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:13.160
knows they just have to wait out
the storm. Let everyone like get really

455
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:16.400
in an uproar, pass their resolutions
against real ID and then we'll just work

456
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:20.319
on this incrementally over time and still
get what we want. So we are

457
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:25.359
playing a losing game by not engaging
and being watchful and being persistent when the

458
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:30.400
other side absolutely is that's right.
Yeah, the price of liberties eternal vigilance.

459
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:32.119
And of course you also have to
have a goal. And I think

460
00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:36.640
that was always a problem to me
for the Tea Party. Taxed enough already,

461
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:37.759
okay, so what do you want
to do? You want to cut

462
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:42.559
spending or you know, cut taxes
or what do you want to do?

463
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:45.440
Which taxes do you want to cut? Which spending do you want to cut?

464
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:49.599
There was just nothing there, and
you had everybody jumping on board with

465
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:52.000
that to make money, you know, the people who are organizing it.

466
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:55.480
And I think the people also looked
at this and you know, said,

467
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:59.880
well this is you know, there's
not really anything here, and it kind

468
00:32:59.880 --> 00:33:02.599
of fall away. But you're right
with the good example is the real ID

469
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:06.599
thing. Because people just went to
sleep and now we've got the TSA out

470
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:08.839
there doing facial skins, taking it
to the next level. Uh, you

471
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:13.160
know what, you know, what
do we do about the TSA Because here's

472
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:15.799
my concern. You know, a
key thing that we saw, especially in

473
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:20.119
the last few years, what was
it that helped us to survive this lockdown?

474
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:22.559
And that was mobility and it was
cash and it was being outside of

475
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.079
the system. They now want to
take away our cash. They want to

476
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:30.559
take away our mobility. If they're
able to take away our cars and make

477
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:35.119
us dependent on renting our rides,
you know, renting a vehicle by the

478
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:37.039
ride, not even you know,
leasing a vehicle. If they're able to

479
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.720
do that, if they're able to
take away our cash, they really have

480
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:43.839
got us and there's not really anything
we can do. So what do you

481
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:45.279
think we should do about and what
are you working on in terms of that

482
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:51.319
in Utah? But this is such
a challenge what you're pointing out, because

483
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:57.319
I'll use your last example just as
a direct response this rent your vehicle,

484
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:01.160
Like, imagine a world two decades
from now, which I don't think is

485
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:07.840
a far off fantasy. Yeah,
probably sooner where I can have my car

486
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:12.920
drop me off, self driving car, fully autonomous it drops me off at

487
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.679
work rather than sitting ors right outside
my office window, right here, outside

488
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:20.440
of frame right, rather than sitting
there for eight hours. I can monetize

489
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:24.719
that vehicle and I can have it
go basically play uber and earn revenue for

490
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:28.000
other people who will pay it.
And I just say, hey, you

491
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.199
just need to be back here at
five o'clock, you know, to pick

492
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:32.199
me up. Well, all of
a sudden, I you no longer need

493
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:37.119
parking lots. If you if you
have a society where there's very few people

494
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.960
who are just owning their car and
sitting there right, you can conserve a

495
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:45.280
ton. You can at least substantially
reduce the size of parking lots because you

496
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:49.719
don't need just all these big empty
spaces that can do tremendous things. So

497
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:54.480
I am someone who loves technology and
sees a huge upside to improving society when

498
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:59.480
implemented the right way, things like
AI like I think, I think it

499
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:02.159
can bless humanity in a whole ton
of ways. But these things like self

500
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:07.880
driving cars or I'm a big fan
of bitcoin. But then you got cdbc's

501
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:10.199
on the other side, this kind
of you know, dark version of what's

502
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:15.840
going on or self driving cars or
Tesla robots that they're building right now,

503
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:21.119
neuralink thing like all these things can
do so much good and make our lives

504
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:24.039
so much more convenient, enjoyable,
productive, But we have to have a

505
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:30.000
philosophical base in our society of human
freedom and flourishing to inform and guide and

506
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:34.880
limit all those activities, to keep
them constrained. Otherwise, I'm worried that

507
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.679
these amazing technologies, while they have
their positive side, are going to emerge

508
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:42.800
with the dystopian side, with these
kind of elitists and controls. So I'm

509
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:45.719
not what to say, Well,
because our philosophical base is not there,

510
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.719
and we don't have a society that
believes these things, let's shut all this

511
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:54.119
technology down and you know, make
sure that we don't have this orwellian future.

512
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:59.000
I am one to say, look
the cats, the toothpaste is out

513
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:01.400
of the tube. These things are
going to happen anyways. Let's focus on

514
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:07.519
strengthening that philosophical base so that the
innovators and the regulators and the politicians and

515
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:13.000
everybody else approach this and handle everything
the right way so we can have the

516
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:16.360
positive outcomes while minimizing the negative ones. And that's where the tuttle twins comes

517
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:20.880
in, because you've got to you've
got to set up those values, those

518
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:27.840
bases. And it's because we've had
families atrophy and schools and churches of atrophied

519
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.920
and we don't have those types of
values that are being put out there.

520
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:35.199
As you point out, all this
stuff is tools, and you know,

521
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:38.400
a very powerful tool can be a
really good thing or can be a really

522
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:43.639
bad thing depending on who is wielding
it. And so we have to shape

523
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:45.679
the people who are going to be
wielding it, which is going to be

524
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:50.280
our kids and the future generations.
That's why it is so important, you

525
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.400
know, taking that approach, and
I'm glad that you have put that resource

526
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:57.079
out there. We know people need
to take a look at that. More

527
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.360
people need to be doing that type
of thing as well, because it's really

528
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.320
where the battle is. The battle
is really for the spirit and the soul

529
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:08.119
and the heart, and the battle
for the future is the battle for the

530
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:12.679
soul and the heart of our children. And so that's that's the key thing.

531
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:15.360
Talk to me a little bit about
your books. You've got a couple

532
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:21.199
of different books, Mediocrity, Children
of the Collective, maybe they're some other

533
00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:25.519
ones here tell us a little bit
about mediocrity. So that was a fun

534
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:31.840
one. I'll share the story this
way. In April this year, it

535
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:37.840
was the fortieth anniversary of a report
that the Reagan administration put out April twenty

536
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:43.440
six, nineteen eighty three. They
titled it A Nation at Risk. It

537
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.400
was the conclusion of an eighteen months
study that a team that called themselves the

538
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:52.880
National Commission on Excellence and Education.
Their study went across the country. They

539
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:58.800
were on a listening tour, talking
to teachers, parents, reviewing textbooks,

540
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:02.559
curriculum, everything else, trying to
understand what's going on, trying to assess

541
00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:07.519
education in America. They write this
report, A Nation at Risk. And

542
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:13.199
in that report they said, and
I quote, that America's educational foundations are

543
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:17.920
being threatened by a rising tide of
mediocrity, and that if a foreign government

544
00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:23.639
had attempted to impose upon America the
very mediocre educational performance that now exists,

545
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:29.280
we might have viewed it as an
act of war. As it stands,

546
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:35.360
we've allowed this to happen to ourselves. Nineteen eighty three. When I share

547
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:38.199
this story when I'm out speaking,
I'll ask audiences Okay, raise of hands.

548
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:44.079
Who here in this audience believes that
education in America has substantially improved in

549
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:49.679
the last forty years Today, Maybe
I'm an intimidating person and people are scared

550
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:53.079
of raising their hand in general,
but no one has raised their hand ever,

551
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:57.320
because we all know that education has
gotten worse. If they said in

552
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:02.559
nineteen eighty three, that was mediocre, rising tide of mediocrity, what words

553
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:06.920
would you use to describe what it
is today? I might choose some four

554
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.679
letter words that might not be too
family friendly, you know, and that

555
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:14.519
is I mean, could consider this
data point. I got so much I

556
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:17.800
can share here, but but I'll
just share this. A few weeks ago,

557
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:21.719
a couple of months ago, now, the NAPE scores came out.

558
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:25.039
These are the kind of statistical assessments
that they all the standardized testing that they

559
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:28.440
do for kids, and they do
it, you know, fourth grade,

560
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:30.440
in eighth grade and twelfth grade,
and they've been doing this for decades to

561
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:36.480
track academic progress. Not that I'm
a fan of standardized tests, but they're

562
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:38.440
at least one useful way to kind
of have your finger on the pulse.

563
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:44.480
Well, the data that came out
just a couple of months ago. This

564
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:50.559
particular data point is from eighth graders
across America, and it found that only

565
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:57.599
thirteen percent of them are proficient in
civics in American history one three, not

566
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:04.960
three zero one three thirteen percent proficiency. I mean there's like way, way,

567
00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:08.119
way worse than a failing grave.
So so now fast forward twenty years,

568
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:15.320
forty years, sixty years. These
kids who have been educated so called,

569
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:21.800
in a system of sub mediocrity are
now voters. But they're ignorant,

570
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:28.039
they're historically illiterate, they're civically disengaged, they're distracted by the bread and circuses.

571
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:30.280
They know nothing about their history.
You know the quote those who don't

572
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:34.519
learn from the past or condemned to
repeat it. So they're much more likely

573
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:39.360
to support the authoritarian thugs and the
socialist crazy people who are repeating every doomsday

574
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:44.920
failed thing from the past. And
yet today's electorate doesn't know any better.

575
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:49.199
It's the whole you know, fool
you fool me once, Shame on you,

576
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:52.719
fool me twice, Shame on me. These kids are not learning history,

577
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:59.440
they're not learning these basics about our
society. Thirteen percent is abysmal.

578
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:04.159
It is not mediocre. It is
way, way, way worse. So

579
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:07.000
one might say in response, well, yeah, COVID all this learning loss

580
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:13.679
it's been a no no. This
has been a down and downward trend for

581
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:19.639
a very long time pre COVID.
Absolutely. So my plea to parents out

582
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.400
there is not necessarily to homeschool,
although I'm a big fan of homeschooling.

583
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:28.159
It's just do something else. It
could be a private school, a micro

584
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:30.920
school, it could be a homeschool, it could be homeschool co opic.

585
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:34.960
You know, there's so many options
today, but why would you want to

586
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:38.400
send your children not only to an
intellectually sub mediocre system. Even if you

587
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:40.679
think, oh, well, I
live in a good community, and you

588
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:46.119
know how many libs of TikTok videos
have we seen now from conservative communities where

589
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:51.039
the schools are teaching garbage and parents
don't realize it until it's too late.

590
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:54.320
So so do something else. Wake
up. Don't think well, I went

591
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:58.840
to public school and I turned out
fine. Right Like, it is a

592
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:02.679
different world and you need to pay
attention. You need to be intentional and

593
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:07.360
take action to save your kids.
I'll end with this. The pastor Vody

594
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:10.360
Bacham has this quote. I love
where he says, can we, as

595
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:15.280
Christians in his case this religious quote, can we as Christians really be surprised

596
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:20.880
when we send our children to Caesar's
schools and then they return home as Romans?

597
00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:23.199
Right? And so we have to
realize if we're surrendering our children to

598
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:28.280
certain people, then it's those people's
values and worldview and things that are being

599
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:31.039
put into our kids. We need
to wake up and be more intentional and

600
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:35.400
rescue our children from this sub mediocre
system. That's right. Yeah, it

601
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:37.679
was a real blessing. I think
in disguise as the schools. When to

602
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:42.679
zoom classes, parents could finally see
what was happening in their child's classroom.

603
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:45.320
They always had this when I talked
to you know for decades, Oh,

604
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:49.519
it's not happening in my kids classroom, even if it's happening in the same

605
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.400
school, same school districts that you
know, and all the rest of this

606
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:53.960
stuff. But it seems like,
you know, you talk about the Reagan

607
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:59.119
administration. I remember that report that
you talked about, and I remember Charlotte

608
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:02.239
Isabey, you know, goes to
Washington to help to shut down the Department

609
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:07.360
of Education, which was created during
the nineteen eighty campaign, as Jimmy Carter

610
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:08.960
created it, and Ronald Reagan was
going to get rid of it, and

611
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:13.800
yet they didn't do that, and
so she got out of it, and

612
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:16.400
she wrote the book deliberately dumbing us
down. Now they were able to dumb

613
00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:23.039
us down, but now they're they're
going into a kind of a deprave mode.

614
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:28.039
You know, Let's take the kids
even deeper, Let's take them subterranean.

615
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:30.880
And that's what they're doing with the
social engineering that we see. And

616
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:37.039
I think it's very key that the
Obama administration the Biden administration have been using

617
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:42.199
the power of the purse to incentivize
this. But now it's kind to the

618
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:46.239
point where when you talk about people
getting active locally, you know, showing

619
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:51.000
up and and uh, you know, talking to people, not just criticizing,

620
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:53.000
you know, but also making relationships
with people. But when you have

621
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:57.480
these school board meetings, you know, it was It's kind of interesting how

622
00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:00.320
over the last couple of years now
since the IT stuff, how the school

623
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:05.480
board meetings have become of national interest. The Department of Justice is taking an

624
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:07.360
interest in this, and you got
to look at this and say, why

625
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:13.239
is this so important to them?
And why is it not important enough for

626
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:15.159
us to just do this completely differently. You know, it seems like these

627
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:20.000
people are pushing on this, this
institution that's not going to change, but

628
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:22.960
they keep pushing on it, and
that seems to be really the way that

629
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:27.840
they want to run this through.
You know, what do we do to

630
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:30.840
wake people up to get them to
try something different? As you're pointing out,

631
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:34.920
well, I think of the Reagan
quote as you point out, you

632
00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:37.880
know, he was supposed to repeal
the Department of Education. That didn't happen,

633
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:40.159
but he himself said that the closest
thing to eternal life on earth is

634
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:44.679
a temporary government program. Right,
And here we are with this Department of

635
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:49.000
Education and all the billions of dollars
that they've spent, and can anyone point

636
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:54.159
to a single statistic and a single
educational outcome that has measurably improved as a

637
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:59.320
direct result, even I'm not even
asking for causation, let's even just go

638
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:04.800
to correlate. Do you have any
correlated data to suggest that education outcomes and

639
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:07.480
government schools has improved in the past
forty No, you don't, No one

640
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:10.760
does you know? These guys have
just been spending all this money while they

641
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:15.360
oversee the decline of the and the
dumbing down, the deliberate dumbing down of

642
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:22.239
the American education system. I think
of a public school teacher. His name

643
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:27.039
is John Taylor Gotto passed away a
few years ago. He was a public

644
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:30.800
school teacher in the state of New
York for gosh, almost thirty years.

645
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:36.119
And he was someone who would work
within the system. He hated the system

646
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:37.880
of which he was a part.
He really struggled, but he was working

647
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:43.239
from within because he loved kids.
He wanted to inspire them and connect with

648
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:46.199
them. His classes got rave reviews, His students loved him. They kept

649
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:50.000
in touch for a long time.
He would he would buck the trend.

650
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:52.719
He would like take the kids on
impromptu field trips and just go to the

651
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:57.039
park and get him outdoors. And
you know, he's this guy that love

652
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.760
kids. So then he gets awarded
later in his profession New York City Teacher

653
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:05.519
of the Year, and then the
following year he gets awarded New York State

654
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:07.079
Teacher of Year. Keep in mind
these awards, these Teacher of the Year

655
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:10.719
from the establishment, the PTA's,
the teachers unions, and so forth.

656
00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:15.519
He wins New York State Teacher of
the year, and in the very same

657
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:19.079
year that he wins this award,
he writes an op ed in the Wall

658
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:23.079
Street Journal titled I Quit, I
Think, in which he goes on to

659
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:28.920
say, if anyone knows of a
profession where I can help kids without also

660
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:31.719
hurting them, please let me know. He quits his profession, he starts

661
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:37.519
writing books and goes on a speaking
tour, and his last years of life

662
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:43.360
amazing guy. But it shows,
like what we're up against this system.

663
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:45.920
Like I had a teacher, not
a teacher, a parent a few months

664
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:50.119
back of speaking to a parents group, and this woman in the q and

665
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:52.639
A after raised her hands said,
look, you know, critical race theory,

666
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:57.199
social emotional learning, garbage books in
the libraries, all this, you

667
00:46:57.239 --> 00:47:01.079
know, pet litter boxes in the
classroom, and like all these not not

668
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:06.480
for pets, right, yeah,
right, And so she's rattling off all

669
00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:08.519
these problems, and she says,
the school system is so broken. I

670
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:13.199
say, whoa, whoa, hang
on, hang on, I'm gonna respectfully

671
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:16.039
disagree with you. I do not
believe the school system is broken. I

672
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:22.320
believe it has been perfected based on
a flawed design. When you go back

673
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:25.039
to its originators, it's creators do
you go back to Like Horace Mann,

674
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:30.440
here's a guy who brought over the
Prussian education system, first commissioner of education

675
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:36.199
in the country in Massachusetts. He's
this this fabian socialist, secular humanist guy,

676
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:39.360
and and and the collectivist. He
wanted to take children from their different

677
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:45.719
religions and cultures and values and family
traditions and homogenize them into one single American

678
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:50.840
culture. That was his dream behind
his common school. So he brings over

679
00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:54.719
this Prussian model to America, this
very authoritarian model, which is the model

680
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:58.960
that our government schools are now based
on. He's got this quote where he

681
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:02.039
says, we who were involved in
the sacred cause of education should look to

682
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:08.079
parents as if they have given hostages
to our cause, referring to their own

683
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:13.519
children. He talked in another quote
about how men are like cast iron,

684
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:16.679
children are like wax. It's it's
very hard to change the mind or the

685
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:22.239
heart of an adult. It's like
cast iron, very firm, but children

686
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.519
are like wax. This is exactly
what you know. All all the authoritarian

687
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:30.760
thugs, the despotic dictators, the
Hitlers, the Maos, the Stalins,

688
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:34.039
they all say similar stuff. They
all go after the kids because they want

689
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:37.440
to propagandize them and brainwash up.
So back to this woman, I say,

690
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:42.320
I don't think it's broken. I
think all these manifestations you're seeing are

691
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:47.840
outgrowths of a particular design that was
designed with intentionality. These people did not

692
00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:54.400
want to create a populace of critically
minded excuse me, critical thinking, independent

693
00:48:54.480 --> 00:49:02.360
minded, entrepreneurial individuals. They want
to to create a society of subordinate soldiers

694
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:07.679
and citizens who would do what they
were told and follow orders and learn their

695
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:12.360
station and support the collective. That
was their intent. What we're seeing today

696
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:15.519
is just an outgrowth of that.
We need to discard the design and reboot

697
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:20.079
the system in a way that will
produce the outcomes that we want, rather

698
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:23.039
than kicking against the pricks and getting
frustrated that why are kids turning out this

699
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:28.079
way and why are the schools not
doing this? It's because they were designed

700
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:30.960
this way. We need to scrap
the blueprints and build something better. That's

701
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:35.599
right. It's doing exactly what it
was designed to do. And when we

702
00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:39.159
look at the different means of control, again it's the purse showering people with

703
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:43.760
money, but then they create the
standards out of their regulatory you know,

704
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:47.440
the Department of Education has been very
very powerful in terms of providing the money

705
00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:51.559
the bribes to do this kind of
stuff, but also the standards. You

706
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:53.280
know, when they put out those
standardized tests, that's a way for them

707
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:57.960
to control when you do do something
different, like you know, if you

708
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:00.199
want to have some kind of an
independent school or set something up, if

709
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:04.400
you want to get it accredited,
then they're going to tell you what you

710
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:06.960
have to teach the kids and whether
they have to regurgitate in or to get

711
00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:09.679
accredited. So the standardized tests are
going to control the content. They're going

712
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:15.639
to control the textbooks and all the
rest of this stuff. But at the

713
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:20.079
same time, you know, the
bread and circus things has taken itself to

714
00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:23.599
the level for our kids of the
furries or whatever. It's gone to not

715
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:30.119
just a banality, not just to
a mediocrity or stupidity, but it's gone

716
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:34.639
to a depravity because again it's very
much like a brave new world where they

717
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:37.360
want to take them into a world
of sex and drugs so that they're not

718
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:42.280
a threat to them and a way
for them to control the kids. That's

719
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:44.280
what we need to be aware of. I think that's really what we need

720
00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:46.079
to push back against. And when
you talk about your your next book,

721
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:52.360
The Children of the Collective, I'm
sure that that is what you were referring

722
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:57.960
to when you talked about a horseman
and his approaches to that. But that

723
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:00.639
has always been the issue. You're
right back, going back to the middle

724
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:04.599
eighteen hundreds. He's socialists said,
well, we can't change society the way

725
00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:07.320
we want to because we can't get
to these kids early enough. So let's

726
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:08.920
get them at a very early age. And of course, you know,

727
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:12.440
God tells us you train up a
john on the way they go should go,

728
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.000
when when they're old they won't depart
from it. We're being told this

729
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:19.519
by everybody from God to Hitler has
told us this stuff. Maybe we want

730
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:22.199
to pay attention to it, right, Yeah, No, I think you're

731
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:25.199
you're onto something here that that book, in particular, Children of the Collective

732
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:30.679
was the result of a quote I
read years ago from Michael Novak. I've

733
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:34.119
got the quote pulled up right here. The entire book is basically an expanded

734
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:39.000
version analyzing why this quote is so
true. Here's what he says, Between

735
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:46.840
the omnipotent state and the naked individual
looms the first line of resistance against totalitarianism,

736
00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:53.199
the economically and politically independent family,
protecting the space within which free and

737
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:59.719
independent individuals may receive the necessary years
of nurture. So he illustrates on the

738
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.880
one and you've got this omnipotent state. You've got naked individuals, socially naked,

739
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:08.119
emotionally naked, spiritually naked, right
physically naked in terms of their insecurity

740
00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:13.280
and weakness compared to the authoritarian state. And in the middle, he's got

741
00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:19.920
this first line of resistance what I
find fascinating, which is the politically economically

742
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:22.840
independent family. So our families need
to be independent. We need to be

743
00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:25.159
financially independent. I mean, think
of the founding fathers who would have been

744
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:30.079
there had those particular individuals not had
had the financial station in life to just

745
00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:34.639
go sit in a room and debate
politics for weeks on end right. And

746
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:39.039
so being financially free is critical,
not just so you can go relax on

747
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:44.239
a beach, so they can move
up Haslow's hierarchy of needs, and you

748
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:47.360
can actually do greater things to bless
humanity because you're not hand to mouth,

749
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:51.800
you know, working the whole time, and so What I find fascinating is

750
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:58.280
is he says this economically and politically
independent family unit is the first line of

751
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:01.039
resistance. So then you think,
well, it doesn't say it's the line

752
00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:06.840
of resistance, it's the first line. What are additional I like my skin,

753
00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:09.760
Let's say someone in my office sneezes
or something. There's pathogens floating around

754
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:15.320
the air. My skin an organ
is my first line of resistance. But

755
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:17.760
if that pathogen, like if I
have a cut on my skin, or

756
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:22.440
if I breathe it in or whatever, my body has additional mechanisms to still

757
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:25.559
try and fight that pathogen even if
it gets past this first line of resistance.

758
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:29.800
If the family is the first line
of resistance, what are additional ones?

759
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:32.159
Well, I think the extended family
certainly is a really important one,

760
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:37.840
beyond the nuclear family, having multiple
generations under one roof or in one community

761
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:40.639
where you can support one another.
But beyond that, I would say,

762
00:53:40.679 --> 00:53:44.159
and this you're asking a lot of
good questions about like what can the average

763
00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:46.119
person do, or what can people
do, or what's the message? Here's

764
00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:51.199
a critical one. I think when
Alexis to Tokio was sent to this new

765
00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:54.079
nation to kind of survey what the
heck was going on in America. He

766
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:59.199
wrote the Book's Democracy in America was
his survey in the early eighteen hundreds of

767
00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:01.840
of what was going on here,
and he talked about with a sense of

768
00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:08.840
awe and wonder, what he called
mediating institutions. He says it was so

769
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:14.159
remarkable that throughout Europe, he says, whenever someone would have a problem,

770
00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:19.280
they would raise their hand and ask
some minister of government, some public functionary,

771
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:22.840
some elected or bureaucrat person. They
would go to them for help to

772
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:29.599
solve their problems. That that was
the common thread behind problem solving in Europe.

773
00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:32.519
By contrast, he said, when
Americans have a problem, they form

774
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:37.599
a society, they form an organization
and induce people voluntarily to try to come

775
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:42.280
to the aid of their fellow man. And he was blown away that there

776
00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:49.679
was this whole fabric, this social
fabric, of mediating institutions, and then

777
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:52.679
they were all over the place.
I would give you a very particular example.

778
00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:55.360
There's a gentleman named David Beeto b
E I. T O. He

779
00:54:55.400 --> 00:55:00.119
wrote a book a few years ago
called From Mutual Aid the Welfare State.

780
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:07.119
It is a phenomenal book highlighting how
these mediating institutions were basically put out of

781
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:13.039
business by the omnipotent state, by
the welfare that in early America you had,

782
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:15.000
you know, whether you were Irish, or you were Protestant, or

783
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:20.320
you were Mormon, or you were
you know, Mexican, or whether all

784
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:24.920
these communities fostered mutual aid societies where
they would help one another. We're talking

785
00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:30.760
life insurance, death insurance, orphan
care, elderly care. And America was

786
00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:37.480
littered, littered with these mutual aid
societies, very economical and very I mean

787
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:39.320
think of like the Kohanis and the
Rotary and all these other groups that are

788
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:45.320
kind of legacy holdovers and have really
just decayed because our society no longer values

789
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:50.199
these things. But in early America
they were everywhere until the welfare states started

790
00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:52.400
to be passed. They started passing
these laws. Suddenly people were like,

791
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:58.840
wait a minute, my membership dues
for this mutual aid society or ten dollars

792
00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:02.559
a year. This was you know, back when inflation wasn't nearly as in

793
00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:07.000
effect. I'm paying ten dollars a
year for this mutual aid society, but

794
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:10.599
I'm paying taxes of like, you
know, eighteen dollars a year, and

795
00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:15.519
that's providing all these welfare benefits.
Why am I still in this mutual aid

796
00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:20.519
society? So everyone made the rational
decision to I mean they went out of

797
00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:25.800
business literally like I mean not literally
but figuratively overnight because of the state.

798
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:31.079
This is why, this is why
we need not only strong families, but

799
00:56:31.159 --> 00:56:37.199
we need mediating institutions. We need
to rebuild social fabric. You can have

800
00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:39.800
libertarians like me out there saying shrink
the government, you know, stop passing

801
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:45.280
stupid laws, let's vote that person
out of office. But if our society

802
00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:49.480
is not strong, then the state
will be That's right. If our society

803
00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:52.599
is weak, then the state will
be strong. If we want a weak

804
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:55.079
state, if we want to limit
government, we need a strong society where

805
00:56:55.079 --> 00:56:59.679
we're taking care of one another,
where we're supporting one another. When where

806
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:02.320
that when there are problems, we
bring solutions rather than turning to the government

807
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:07.519
for help. We're not there.
We're ways off from what Alexis to Tokfield

808
00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:10.159
saw. But I think that has
the answer as well. To fight the

809
00:57:10.199 --> 00:57:15.039
collectivists, to fight these central planners, to shrink the state, we got

810
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:17.920
to focus on our families. We
got to rebuild social fabric. We got

811
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:22.280
to strengthen our society, and then
naturally the state will go weaker because fewer

812
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people will be turning to it to
be the source of their comfort and providing

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for their needs. They'll turn to
these social programs, in the true sense

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of the word, societal programs,
mediating institutions. That's where we need to

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be as a country. So well
said, and you know, and as

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you're talking about this, I'm thinking
about it. I've talked about this many

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times, you know, the we've
we've had, you know, Charles Murray

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talked about the deliberate talked about,
you know, the effect of the welfare

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state. I started to say deliberate
dumming down of America, but it was

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losing ground. Was his book that
he did now always out there pushing universal

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basic income. You know, it
is it's amazing to see how this shift

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has happened, and it's been done
in a very subversive way in the sense

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that and it's subverted not just the
poor people in the inner city. You

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know. I've talked to Jack Cashell, who's got a book, Contentable.

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He was talking about how he saw
this happen in the city where he was

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talked to people who have you been
who are my age, and they had

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vibrant black communities and it was decimated. You know, they had businesses that

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were that were working, they had
intact families, and then the welfare state

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comes in and everybody just starts,
you know, taking the free money,

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and it's a very corrupting thing.
They want to do that with the universal

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basic income. But as you're talking
about this, I'm thinking, you know,

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it hasn't just taken the Port's taken
the middle class, the upper middle

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class, because the government is always
there to hand you money to get you

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to do whatever they want you to
do. And there is so much money

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that just this unlimited printing press coming
out of Washington, that they can bribe

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each and every one of us if
we let them. The discussion that we're

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now seeing in terms of the Department
of Education, well, let's let's allow

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people who are homeschooling to get money
and to come and participate in these activities.

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And I've always opposed that because I
realize what a corrupting thing it is

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to take the money. We have
to start taking responsibility for what we want

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to do in our families. And
it's even corrupted the churches. The churches

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used to be a part of these
mediating institutions. The churches would start hospitals,

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the churches would start schools. They
don't do that anymore. The government

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does everything for everybody, and so
we don't even connect to our fellow men

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anymore. We're all connected to the
government. As you're talking about earlier in

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the program. Everybody's like, well, what's going on in Washington, and

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who can I vote for in Washington? Why? Because that's where the money

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is flowing from. And so that's
the thing that I think we've got to

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get passed and beyond, you know, these standardized tests, But it's really

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the money that is flowing through all
this stuff. And you know that,

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you know, Dufel said, everybody
is focused on the what's the government going

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to do to fix the situation.
We had voluntary libraries, voluntary fire departments,

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We did our own schools, our
own hospitals. Now everything has got

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to come from Washington. We've been
trained. We're like wild animals who used

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to be able to take care of
themselves, and we've been hand fed for

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so long by the government that we're
dependent on it. And now the government

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has turned feral, and when you
go to the national parks, you see

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the science that says don't feed the
animals for that precise reason. If we

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care about their long term health and
strength. Is a little animal community,

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right, they need to be able
to survive on their own. You're actually

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harming them by supporting them. And
so if the government is supporting us,

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it is harming us. And just
like the education system is being deliberately dumbed

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down, I think it is also
deliberate that we are being so many of

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us are financially supported. Over half
of Americans are directly financially supported by the

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state. If you talk about government
schools as well, it shoots to like

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ninety percent, right, But excluding
the schools direct payments, it's over fifty

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percent. No wonder. Voters are
increasingly shifting blue. No wonder many of

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our red states returning purple. When
people are directly connected to the state,

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they are much more forgiving of it, and they are much more tolerant of

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its abuses because they don't want the
gravy train to end. That's right.

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Yeah, what we have now in
the area where I live there the Smoky

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Mountains, they're very concerned about people
not feeding the bears. Our federal government

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has essentially gone through everybody's neighborhoods putting
trash cans to give us junk. And

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we've been so acclimated to this garbage
food and the trash cans, we would

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never be able to survive without it, it seems like. But we've got

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to break that dependency somehow. A
great way to do it is with an

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ex generation with the Tuttle Twins books. And you got tuttle Twins dot com

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right where people can go find that
as well as I'll just pronounce it as

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a libertass dot com or dot org. Okay, so tuttle Twins dot com

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and libertass dot org. It's really
been a pleasure talking to you, Connor.

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Thank you so much. Appreciate it, thank you, Thank you,

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Connor Boyak doing great work there.
Thank you so much. Well, folks,

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that's it for today's program. Thank
you for joining us, and we'll

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see you tomorrow. The common Man
they created common Core a dumbed down our

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children. They created common Past to
track and control us, their Commons project

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to make sure the commoners own nothing, and the communist future. They see

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the common man as simple unsophisticated,
ordinary. But each of us has worth

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and dignity created in the image of
God. That is what we have in

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common. That is what they want
to take away. Their most powerful weapons

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are isolation, deception, intimidation.
They desire to know everything about us,

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while they hide everything from us.
It's time to turn that around and expose

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