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Welcome to softcore History. What is
up? Welcome back to softcore History.

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It's Halloween, horror month, spooky
month, whatever you want to call it.

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I am your host for the week, Rob Fox. I'm joined as

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always by Dan Rojester. However,
Jake Goldman is he loves the show.

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Not so dearly departed. He's done. You had off of this bullshit,

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this mortal coil that we call softcore
history. Shuffled off of it. And

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I say that because he shuffles,
not doesn't have good body language, good

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posture, good speed, yeah,
anything anything. He's a shuffler, wouldn't

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you say waddler, wadler, a
shuffler. Yeah, he's a little he's

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a bigger boy. Now all that
bread. That's I would say this to

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his face. I know you will, you do, and he'll be back

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next week. He will. He's
not dead, unfortunately, just because I

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want him to die, but just
because it'd be good for the next two

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weeks of content. Well, we
would monetize it. Yeah, yeah,

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oh my God. Would be at
his funeral live streaming. I would live

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stream from um. Well, they
probably create made him, but if they

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did bury him, I would live
ours up. Be like Hey, live

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from Jake's casket. Yeah, what
up? If only he was Catholic?

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If you do awake, we could
just broadcast with him. I hope you

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guys do that for me awake.
Yeah, because I'm not going to live

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longer for than five years. I
don't believe that you will be able to

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have an open casket funeral. That's
true. I think that's shooting pretty high

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for you. Definitely, you'd be
able to pull off open casket, that's

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true. My head might be like
detached from a body altogether. There's like

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a weight you just get your head
gets crushed in a weight machine or something,

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but like an acne anvil. Yeah, or more likely than not,

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you're just pulling out onto two ninety
where a studio is, and getting an

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eighteen wheeler just liquefies you. That's
how we're all gonna go, by the

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way I supposed to. Not.
No, you can talk, that's fine.

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I was spooky. Actually, if
for the audio people like who is

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that? I thought we're in for
a two man show. No, No,

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we have a lady here. You
know her. She's been on the

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show many times now. Some of
our best episodes. Jesse Wiseman is here.

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Hi. I thought you said horror
week in its horror Well, I

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thought, what's what's more frightening than
a promiscuous woman, a woman in charge

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of her own body? Scary scary
ties. Yeah, she's gotta go.

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Um, thank you for having me
on guys like your headband. Yeah,

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I love a theme. I'll go. I'll go all out for you guys,

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and stop at CBS before I come
here, Okay, And that's what

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I do fore. Yeah. Yeah, I had to pick up some other

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stuff and I thought, and it
was there, and I said, you

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know what, I'm gonna go above
and beyond. I love that and just

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reach out and grab to get the
first thing. Yeah, yeah, first

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thing that I saw, and I
thought, I'm gonna do it from I'll

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be honest, this is probably one
of the more impoverished poor people things I'll

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ever say. But this is coming
from Rob mind you. Yeah, CVS

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sometimes pretty decent batier like clothes I
bought. I buy socks at Walgreen's What

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what dress socks? They've got some
good pattern socks like picking up your fucking

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pills from the pharmacy. I have
on three different occasions bought from Walgreens.

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I was about to be ready to
agree with him, because I was like,

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yeah, for sure, like it's
right across from my house, like

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maybe food options. Yeah, yeah, it was gonna be like, oh

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one selection is not bad selection,
I know, and I thought you were

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gonna But the one thing that I
go, Man, if I ever buy

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some clothes, right, shoot me
and you go, nope, that's where

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I sometimes they have they have good
like you won't see it yet because it's

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October so it's still ninety five degrees
here. But I guess by December,

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I'll be wearing pants and they have
good just patterned, like kind of dressed

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out. He's wearing with your ten
of shoes and you know, in pants

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or whatever. Great, we're in
dress us from c from CVNS Walgreens.

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Yeah, I real. He's buying
some two buck Chuck Delco. He's been

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in dripping for like how he's already
a month. I mean he's already super

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cunch. Oh yeah, I get
MC clothes at the Sea VS. We

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had to fucking literally I had to
go to the post office to pick up

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my mail keys or whatever because in
this state or this city, actually it's

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not the state. Because we asked
her parents about it, and they're like,

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what the fuck? Courts parents is
very affluent, like totally metropolitan areas

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of this state, but yeah,
this fucking city or metro area, a

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lot of the neighborhoods just have mailbox
clusters. They won't bring the mail to

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your fucking house. You have to
walk out there, like you live in

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a goddamn apartment complex, go to
your mailbox. I'm sorry, I know,

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too good for like a collection of
mailbox. All I'm gonna say is

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if at a certain price point,
don't you feel like or do you are

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you just like, yeah, cluster
mailbox all the time, Like at a

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certain price point, if you spent
this money you personally would you be like,

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I kind of want just a I'm
not asking for much. I'm kind

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of already there because I have to
walk a half mile to my mailbox.

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That's what I'm saying. It's like, and I know that, I know

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the post office is federal, and
what I'm about to complain about his state,

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but with my property taxes so goddamn
high, bring my fucking mail to

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my fucking door. Listen to you. I mean, he's already got you.

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He's always been at the front of
my apartment complex, it says luxury

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apartments. M doesn't really seem luxury
at the front of an apartment. At

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the front of any apartment complex,
no matter how many homeless people are pooping

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and shooting up, it says luxury
apartment. There'says like luxury, cosmopolitan,

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like the like amazing names that they
like. The preserve, yeah, the

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preserve languages. It's quite flake lake, no lake, no lake, or

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like actually, what the there's like
a drainage pond. Yeah, yeah,

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they do that and with they'll do
that full of mosquito. They'll get pretty

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clever with the brook. Oh yes, you know what I it's like,

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can't argue. It's just like the
gutters full of water. Sure, and

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they're like it's a it's a babbling
brook. I know. I remember.

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I know early on in my time
here in Austin, when I still live

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in an apartment and with single and
everything, i'd go apartment shopping or whatever

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when I first first moved here with
and you get like a realtor to take

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your round. Have you ever done
that for apartment shopping? I have not

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done that. I was getting my
apartments, like yeah, now there's apartment

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search firms that give you like a
two hundred dollars rebate or something, and

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they and they get a commission for
sending you basically sure, they don't go

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with me, Oh they went with
me like I could. I don't even

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know the city. They would just
send me this and they were just like,

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look at all these amenities that you
have, like a there's like a

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movie room you can rent out,
and like this shitty charcoal grill you can

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grill at two hundred feet away from
your apartment. Knowing now though buying a

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house and having you know, having
to deal with your realtor, and how

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busy they were, right like you
know the level well that that real estate

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agent had to be at that they
were taking someone around to like rent one

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bedrooms, right you know that now
at the time, you feel like this

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is their job, right right?
Well, I think there's just a certain

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type of person. And I respect
this totally. I've been saying I'm a

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soft hands on the same way who
doesn't get doesn't go to college. But

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it's like, I want to work
in an office for sure, any likeable,

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right, seem respectable, whatever.
And those people either work in apartment

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complex leasing offices, or they take
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It's like that type of person and
it's the same type of like they're

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on some type of salary. No
commission, because if you're wanting to get

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commission, you're for sure gonna be
like, hey, bro, just get

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this place. Yeah, I promise
it's the best one. Whatever. Thinking

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you to all these different apartments.
Literally, it was. It was so

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bizarre, it was it was weird. But yeah, anyway, we're not

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here to talk about real estate.
We're here to talk about spooky things.

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And today I'm so happy we have
a woman on because I really want to

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get your real imctive, that female
perspective. Yeah, you're that female perspective

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on why. I don't know.
They deserved it, probably because we're talking

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witches. Well, you brought the
right lady on, right, Yes we

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did. Like if you wanted anyone
to like be on the ladies side,

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do not me? Yeah, no
joking, you're as I like to say,

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and Aunt Karen and Aunt Karen,
which you came up with that,

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And I don't know if anyone will
know it, but I think we should.

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We just keep saying it and put
it out there. The female white

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version of an uncle Tom yeah yeah, and Aunt Karen Trader to your own

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January one, getting it. But
one day they will be like, we

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did that. Someone is going to
say that on like MSNBC or something one

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god exactly, that was mine exactly. But it's fine. I don't care

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because I like there's people that do
that. They're like, it's like what,

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Oh, I don't even want to
give it. I don't want to

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call anyone out because so many people
do it. But like I remember in

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college, we were using the term
browning out a lot, and we totally

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had come out. We had come
up with that on our own. We

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came up with that on our own, but it stayed in our circle.

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We were we would always say gray
out, okay, brown out sounded fucking

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gross. Yeah, but we started
using the term browning out and then one

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day it was on uh it's always
sunny, and but like that's not super

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clever of a thing, right,
do you know what I mean? Like

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it's funny, but so we saw
it and we're like, oh, they

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use it too. At no point
where we somehow like yeah, yeah,

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yeah, that's what the hell you
really want to die on? Is though

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we started started brown out well,
right, right, But I was saying

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like it it sprung up organically amongst
me and my friends, and then it

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turns out other people use that very
logical conclusion of a term I come to

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now as a man with Crown's disease. Brennan out is a totally different thing

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for me. Is that when I
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that's what I always associated. I
was like, I don't want to

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say browning out just sounds like you
shit yourself. Yeah, it sounds like

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you got drunken shit yourself. Is
that what it was? No, it's

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just like you remember parts of the
night, but not all the night,

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which is how they take said it
always sunny too, Okay, but anyway,

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whatever this should be you shit yourself. I so drunk you poop brown

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out. Do you think anyone that's
seen me on the show knows that,

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I like, really make it hard
for you to get through the story.

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No, it's fine. We all
do that to each that the whole especially

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recently on our review recently that was
like it was, it was funny,

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but like fucking talk more about the
subject. No, No, I've heard

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the I mean, fuck you people
are like less about the topic more about.

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Yeah, just you three as whatever. If you want to know about

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it, fucking google it. You're
here because you like these two, for

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sure. I don't know why you're
I'm not usually on even even when Jake's

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not here. Rick Cache shots by
Jesse. Yeah, I was going,

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I was thinking, who are you
gonna like direct your hostility? It's hard,

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it's really hard. We'll try and
point out these women. Oh I

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would love too. Yeah. No, that's a great idea. Yeah.

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I think that's where aim at the
aim at the dead. Yeah. Yeah.

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So for my last episode, we
talked about the salm less Bury Witches

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u which was one of two which
trials took place in Lancashire, England in

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sixteen twelve. Jesse, you probably
didn't hear that episode. Certainly weren't on

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that episode. Basically, these are
the English version of the Salem which trials

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the most famous, which trials in
England. Okay, and it's but it's

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two. There's the Salmless Fury Witches
and whom we're going to talk about today,

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the Pendle Witches, and all of
these happened around the same Salem was

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about I think like eighty seventy years
later. But this was the same same

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century, sixteen hundreds, but this
is early sixteen hundred. Salem was now

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if you want to go back and
listen to that, it was about three

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episodes ago. Uh yeah right,
yeah, yeah, three and Jake had

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an episode between it. Yeah.
So um the Salmlesbury which is who we

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talked about last time. To give
you a little rundown, Jesse, the

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three Salmlesbury witches were accused of turning
into dogs and tormenting their accuser okay,

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and making their accuser watch them drink
in infant's blood until the infant died.

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Yes, okay, we uh we
actually broke down the best way to drink

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blood out of a baby? Well
no, Dan, Well yeah, because

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Dan's afraid I don't want to be
the accusers are saying these are what these

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women did, just like out of
nowhere. Uh yeah, more started acting

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like, well was the teenage girl
that accused him. It's always, it's

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always, always, always, and
don't get me started. Yeah, okay,

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carry on drinking well out of the
baby. I don't want to be

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confused with a pedofi, right,
I just want to be a part of

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the cold. Dan. We'll happily
baby. I actually did see that.

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And by the way, I mean
that was my first right, was it

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not yours? I mean he asked, like where where right? And like

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the first thought is like shit,
imagine like everyone's in like a blood frenzy,

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you know, and they're just trying
to get that baby blood as fast

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possible, and you just like got
to take thigh. That's all that's left,

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right, Like it's like you're a
you're like a baby dog and you

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get the stubby nipple on mom.
Not great. You just gotta go,

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you gotta go outside. Yeah yeah, but here's the thing. You're hungry.

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Yeah, you do it like potato
chips. And as I've learned from

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having a child, blood in an
infant is finite. Quite finite. Yeah,

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yep, quite finite. Quite it's
like a child on the way,

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yep yep. But that's not all. They also tried to make, according

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to the accuser, tried to make
the accuser drown herself. Then they dug

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up the baby that they had drained
after they after it was buried in the

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cemetery, and use its corpse for
ointments. And they also partook in some

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orgies with shadow demons. Yes,
okay, and this is according to a

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teenage teenage girl, a teenage girl
talking about check it out and if you

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want to know how they got off, Yeah, in a disquieting I have

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that written. In a disquieting and
surprising twist of fate, these witches were

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found innocent and let go. Now. Jesse Dan thinks he knows what happened.

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But I've actually I've marinated on it. I have my own theory.

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Okay, Well, I'll tell you
my theory first, because I think we

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may have the same theory. I
think we do. Okay, So here's

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what happened. Um, after their
accuser finished testifying about the evils, these

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witches partook in. Uh. The
witches fell to the floor and began what

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I now believe after further just up
review for their view, was they started

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a most horrific incantation. They they
were out loud casting a spell. Ye

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what you thought, That's what I
was thinking. He's kind of still my

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thunder there. Yeah, I mean
I wrote this, it's in here.

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I wrote this last night. Uh. They repeated to the court again and

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again. Cross examined her. Oh
I know that spell? Yeahs too,

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Yeah, Cross examine her and eventually
their spell compelled the prosecution to turn to

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the accuser and ask, are you
telling the truth this little witchcraft? Yeah?

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And the accuser, the teenage girl, was like, JK, no,

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I'm not Wow, pretty standard though, dark stuff, dark stuff,

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dark stuff, dark stuff. I
didn't know that would work. I know,

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A good shame it all the time. A good Christian woman, right

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would have let the teenage girl testify, kept her mouth what and taken shut

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and let God decide decide what you've
just taken what she obviously knew was what

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she deserved. If it you know, it's like trial by combat, right,

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right. If you win, you're
right. If you lose, you

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were wrong, you were guilty.
Absolutely same thing, trial by only letting

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on side testify, Yes, trial
by combat, Yes, I love those

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kinds. Yeah. Um. And
by the way, speaking of the cross

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examined thing, whatever happened to believe
women that teenage girl? Yet? To

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believe all women gets confusing in something
like this, doesn't it? Yeah,

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Which is why I'm actually hashtag believe
nobody because are you a woman first?

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Are you witch first? Right?
Or? Its just everybody fucked up?

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And the definition of true quality is
knowing that they're fucked up witches everywhere,

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fucked up dudes, just fucking insane, especially people. If it's a person,

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there's ability. Please. I know
you. I knew you would.

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What we've met, never met a
mistake ever. Ah, Adam didn't eat

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the apple, did he? During
this time? I think that was like

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granted, was a part of Adam. It was his rib, So I

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guess technically Adam did eat that apple, right? Do you think that's where

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the It's kind of funny Actually Adam
took out had a rib removed so he

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could get his dick sucked the original
Marilyn Manson, Yeah, right, because

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he wasn't getting his dick sucked before
that rib was. He was like starting

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to he only got one out.
Fine, Yah, She's like fine,

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I will. Now that's an urban
legend for white people, but apparently it

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crosses cultures but with different people.
Who was it for for black people to

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cool? Jay? Really? And
why did why did we not hear about?

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I don't know, it just never
got around. It was pre Twitter

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obviously. So is there a Mexican
one? There's gotta be. Is it

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like Wizamo or like Denny Treyho Maybe
a tray No, no, because it's

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gotta be you gotta it's you gotta
track it. Right. So there was

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a large segment of people who thought
Marilyn Manson was a freak and weird.

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And I think in the black community
with El cool j you gotta think the

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main thing is like he's too like
perfect and pretty something because he's kind of

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like who just kind of like soft
faced, you know what I mean,

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Like he's like jacked but neck up. He's kind of terribic, you know

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what I mean, it's kind of
like a cupid face. So he is

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I believe, the first black man
to survive a horror movie. Really Deep

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Blue Sea spoilers, I mean,
that was a bad one. But racistly,

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wasn't he the cook? He was
the cook? Racistly, although Samuel

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Jackson with scientists and he it's eaten. Yeah, yeah, it's just funny.

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It would be funny if he was
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and he was the cook. Okay, so we can't buy smart sharks,

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or we can buy smart sharks,
but like obviously the black guy on the

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boat's got to be a cook,
right, Yeah, no one will go

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with any other story. But Jackson
was there too. Yeah, that's a

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common trope. Black guys get oft
in horror movies, so do if you're

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you know, permi, if you
have sex, you will also die in

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a horror movie. Damn. The
only thing that could have made Scream better

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is if because they were going through
the rules of horror movies. I know,

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as if they had killed like a
black guy first, you know what

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I mean, Because they were killing
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it's like sluts of the innocent girl
alone and everythink they should have just literally,

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yeah, egregiously oft one black friend
in the art Like, look,

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we're only following the rules, right, I don't know what to tell you.

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The pure innocent girl survived. It
just went from a perfect movie to

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a near perfect movie in my eyes
now. Yeah, used to think thanks

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a lot, sad um, but
yeah, So these witches got off under

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mysterious circumstances, no doubt. But
that was not the only which Charlotte took

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place in Lancashire at the time.
There was kind of a big witch hullabaloo

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just around the country. King James
the First was the king at the time.

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He was obsessed with rich whitches and
the devil. He actually wrote a

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whole book called Demonology. Okay,
so he was an expert on demons and

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it was really just people like being
a little bit off or having a bad

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day, right um or one time
shit, like really for real demon stuff

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and who King James. Yeah,
I mean he wrote about like he got

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pretty in detail about things. Yeah. It was like gluten allergies. Yeah,

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the wheat of the Lord's earth yeah, yeah, rejects the man or

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woman asthma mm hmm. If the
heir, if the Lord's air right can

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breathe there, yeah, must die. Yeah, I mean it's pretty it's

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pretty obvious. Stff. That one
is obvious. Sorry anybody, if you're

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Italian, Well, that's just because
they're annoying. Yeah. So while the

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Sumlessburies Witches escape justice, the Pendle
Witches still awaited trial right. Uh.

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Fortunately for everyone, the evidence against
them was perhaps even more compelling and the

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evidence against the Sumlessbury Witches. Uh. The twelve witches accused lived in Pendle

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Hill, which is another area of
the County of Lancashire, England. Uh.

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Six of the Pendle Witches were from
one of two families, and each

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of these families were headed by a
woman in her eighties, i e.

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A woman who already looked like a
witch, right right, which is ninety

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percent of the evidence you need.
Yeah, right, just an old,

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warty, broken down woman sixteen hundreds
in the eight Yeah. Bro, that's

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a rough life. Yeah, I
mean at that point, you're just like

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your clothes are more urine than than
anything. Teeth, yeah, whatever,

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teeth they're left. Yeah, your
body starts to like grow roots into the

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ground like a tree. It's insane
what we can do now to preserve I

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think about like my grandma was in
a nursing home. One of my grandmas

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was in a nursing home before she
died. Later, what why'd you hate

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her? Well? I didn't my
parents did parents. I loved her,

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I thought, not enough to take
her under your I was in college.

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I couldn't do anything. I'm sure. I'm sure he asked to the dorm.

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Yeah, but I mean definitely,
well I was, you know,

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she come to the fraternity house actually, But I mean I guess there were

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a couple of times. I you
know, if I just didn't ask my

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parents for money, they could have
put her somewhere nicer. But like,

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at the same time, like I
don't know, like I was out of

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mine, you know, I was
out of money, and you know it's

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fine, Cord, That's what we
all do. Sorry, right, not

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inla. She probably didn't know my
grandfather was also in the home. Yeah,

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no, it just doesn't we don't
do it in the same He also

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didn't know where it was exactly.
And it's kind of just like, look

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she did, oh she did.
I'm gonna find you someplace nice. Most

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I can do for you. Osh, well she You know what they say

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about nursing homes. Are you asking? My grandma was getting railed, but

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she live in her best life.
I doubt it, to be honest,

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And I'm not saying that because this
my grandma. I doubt it, do

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you? This was like an old
home. This wasn't like people in their

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seventies that down eighty five. No, no, no, I would walk

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into this home. I'm telling you, like like they're they're a nursing homes

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there. It was visiting day.
Yeah, there are nursing homes that are

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like retirement communities, you know what
I mean, for people who can't afford

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their own little condo. Right,
But it's still like a fuck city,

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Okay, yeah, and then there's
this place which was like borderline medical.

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She was probably getting her hip dislodged. Whatever. Sure, my grandma was

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getting fucking I'm just saying if another
older dude could walk, Yeah, he

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was in there. Yeah that's fair. Sure, one side of the bed

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whatever, what have you there?
Your grandma was like an old country buffet.

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No, bob, we're just talking
about your grandma, okay, if

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that's all right? Right, only
her railed in the nursing home and likely

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the bed she died in. Yes, now you're getting it. Perhaps before

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you're getting it. Now you're getting
it cause of death. I don't know.

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Happy, right, Yeah, Yeah, I'm sorry. I think they

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had like a good relationship. You
were like almost bringing her home. Probably

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probably the last time I cried over
to death. Pretty cool, guys.

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How long ago was that? I
was in college? Yeah, it's been

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a long enough. Yeah, I'm
not upset. I don't care. Yeah,

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my grandma's pussy was getting smashed.
Whatever you said it, dude,

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you're sick. Fuck, come on, yeah, I'm sure sure, call

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her anything weird? Did you call
her anything like? No? No,

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it was just grandma, Yeah,
just grandma to and so actually we have

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that current debate going on with my
family. My wife and child, like,

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what are you gonna call the Well, yeah, grandparents and her parents

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have names, and my parents are
grandma and grandpa Fox. Yeah. And

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she was like, why why don't
you want them nicknames? I was like,

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because when he's twenty, I don't
want him to be like I miss

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my people so much. Right,
well, you gotta start coming up with

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names for like the step grandparent.
Right, he's a grandpa. Text that's

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good, She's call him big texts. Yeah, yeah, you know it's

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something texts. Yeah, whatever,
Yeah, that's good. But we have

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the same thing, so that might
be pretty normal. Like my hippie parents

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side are like whatever, you know, And then his parents are like,

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it is literally only going to be
grandma and grandpa. And if I hear

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any other yeah, I'm slapping.
Yeah no, I'm just kidding. I'm

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not rewarding you for being bad at
speaking English up to a certain point.

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Ye, right, And I think
they're just more like it makes them feel

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older or like different, do you
know what I mean? If it's like

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grandma, that's cool, Like I
could handle that, but I'm not gonna

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I'm not gonna go down the gam
gam road. You can't. And game

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game is like a good one,
yeah, yeah, an easy one.

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Yeah. Yeah. God, it's
just like you can't. Look, you

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can't take an adult seriously, that's
like no, I know they would just

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like that. They would still say
it. Yeah, it's like Pope,

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pope memo. So thankfully when your
grandma died from being railed or whatever it

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was, we know, yeah,
yeah, you were people gam gam you

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know what I mean. You're like
my grandma, yeah, grandma or whatever.

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And maybe she or like you said, she died during sex. She

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died looked like you know, cloud
after cloud after you hang and beat a

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carpetright, just a cloud of dust. Absolutely, and good for her.

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And that's the most that you can
wish for. I suppose god, damn

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it. Uh, thank god.
My other grandmother died quickly and violently falling

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down some stairs. Stop. My
great grandfather, Yeah, that's real.

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My dad's grandfather got electrocuted to death
during a goddamn flood. Are you serious?

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In his basement. He went down
to get the meat, and the

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water was just all younger. He
was younger, yea. And then it's

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not open casket no, and then
I believe my mom's or my dad's mom,

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uh got hit by like a truck. That's how you're gonna go.

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I'm gonna go out death and your
families. Yeah, I have like dementia

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induced death, which is like Grandma
falling down the stairs. And then also

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my other grand I got two faults. I'm totally gonna fall and die.

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That's my grandpa. He didn't die
from the fall, but he fell hit

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his head on the concrete when he's
like eighty five, and obviously brain's not

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for sure it's gonna work, okay, So he lasted another like two three

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years after that, just rapid decline. Oh my gosh, mine died the

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old fashioned booze and SIGs. Dude, I like that. I mean,

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I guess, but my last stories
are kind of cruel. Yeah, you're

406
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,839
not fall Yeah, yeah, I'm
gonna go out violently and also in an

407
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:40,119
entertainment fashion. Can see Rob going
out with like lou Gerrig's disease. I'm

408
00:29:40,119 --> 00:29:41,359
not gonna get it. First off, als is genetics, so that's not

409
00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:45,680
gonna happen unless I get like eight
concussions. Mine are the ones that like

410
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:53,640
my parents then used to be like
she fucking smoked cigarettes and drank straight vodka

411
00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:59,519
till she was ninety nine during eight
biscuits and grape. So like their death

412
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,880
kind of is used to justify any
bad behavior in my family. So I

413
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,279
have that. I mean, I'm
kind of the same way. All of

414
00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:12,920
my grandparents made it past ninety except
for the one who fell and hit his

415
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:18,359
head and made it to like eighty
six technicality, Yeah, exactly exactly,

416
00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:19,720
So I got all I gotta do
is, you know, watch my step

417
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:25,240
in parking lots and and live in
a ranch home, right, and you

418
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:30,200
can like drink the same yeah whatever, yeah, eat however you want,

419
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,079
and then ones are there worst case
scenario. I'm just a little forgetful,

420
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,839
sure, which might be nice sometimes
I think, so, yeah, I

421
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,240
want to remember. Just play it
off like you have Alzheimer's. Yeah,

422
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,559
I honestly might just fake it.
Not Alzheimer's, but dementia, because those

423
00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:49,000
are two separate things. Dementia's just
like so dementia is funny because it's like,

424
00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:51,359
oh, it's the thing. It's
like, no, it's just your

425
00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:53,359
brain's old. Yeah, I got
an old brain. Yeah, we're not

426
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,119
going to cure that, right,
But you know, you can manage it.

427
00:30:57,119 --> 00:31:00,799
It's fine. Just be the old
guy at the gym, your advantage.

428
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,559
Yeah, exactly, tends to forget
about things and just stares directly at

429
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:08,039
all the girls squadding. Yeah exactly, it's Grandpa's old. He doesn't know.

430
00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:11,559
He's not even looking at you,
right, he doesn't even see that

431
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:17,319
far and right of him. Grandpa
does, and he takes the energy back

432
00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:22,920
home to a much less satisfying body, right, but similarly warmhole. Yeah,

433
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:29,839
just just bring it all back around
to do your grandma getting Yeah,

434
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:36,000
fucking plaid. I'm sorry, grandma, not because he's thinking about the twenty

435
00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:37,559
year old that's squadding at lifetime.
Right, you're right, you take that

436
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:45,480
image back. It's like that scene
in the Blade Runner sequel where the hologram

437
00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:48,680
Chick, an ad armist, puts
herself over the other like still really hot

438
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:52,000
chick. Oh yeah, yeah.
It's like we're just the episode of Black

439
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:56,920
Mirror where they can just record everything
in their brains and watch it while they're

440
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,119
having sex. So they're just thinking
of or they're watching themselves have sex with

441
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,759
another person. As a head sex, I just mount my cell phone on

442
00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:06,359
the headboard. That sure was about
us. I just put that cellf on

443
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:13,160
on the headboard on Instagram profiles that
are can you Yeah, imagine Courtney does

444
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,400
the same. Probably I can't imagine
because I would never do it. Yeah,

445
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,960
Corney actually makes him wear a mask. No, we just mounted a

446
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:24,119
television on the ceiling and it just
plays. Uh what if she actually she's

447
00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:29,119
was trouble that we live in rig
Springs because she loves Coach Taylor. Oh,

448
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:31,519
I could take her to Home Depot
and we could meet up. Yeah.

449
00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:35,920
I actually can't wait to come back
from Home Depot one time when she

450
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,920
has come with me and I'm gonna
tell her that Coach Taylor was there.

451
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:39,799
Yeah, I saw him. That's
how Kyle Taylor. Yeah you will too.

452
00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:47,480
It's where every time I go star
of what Netflix is Bloodline? I

453
00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:51,680
know I did love him in Bloodline. It's only good for an one season,

454
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,759
Yeah, exactly, good and everything. It's good everything. Anyway,

455
00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:58,440
back to the Pendle Witches. Sorry, so these women were in their eighties.

456
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,599
They look gross and old. So
they already looked like which is one

457
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:06,240
of the old bats. Elizabeth Southern's
aka Elizabeth dem dem Dykes Demdike's kind of

458
00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:07,440
like the family name, but these
women have like different last names. Dem

459
00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:12,759
Dykes. Uh good. She had
been regarded as a witch in the area

460
00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:16,559
for over fifty years, and there
have been an outbreak of witchcraft in Pendle

461
00:33:17,119 --> 00:33:22,480
recently. It was contagious. Yeah, yeah, it is. They encourage

462
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:28,000
each other. Right, It's kind
of like currently how everyone just thinks mental

463
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,599
illness is cool. Yeah, right, and everyone has mental illness, everyone

464
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:36,960
has anxiety or depression. Just so
it was probably like that for witchcraft.

465
00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:39,759
Yeah, I agree, although I'm
fine with the mental illness stuff. Yeah,

466
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:44,680
trying to get cloud and we'll learn
that in this episode. Oh yes,

467
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:50,279
So these women, these two families
of poor women, they were poor

468
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,839
families. Uh, they made their
living in part through healing, being healers.

469
00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:58,480
So already kind of on the edge, you know what I mean,

470
00:33:58,839 --> 00:34:01,599
girl, don't get into healing.
There's a lot of healers out the tank.

471
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:07,759
You to fucking you, try to
burn you, you try to date

472
00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:09,599
in Austin nowadays, most of those
girls are healers. It's a little bit

473
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:15,360
upsetting that we don't. We aren't
meaner to healers now. We should be

474
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,519
now, Yeah, don't think I
just don't believe meaner now than we were

475
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:23,920
back then, because back then it's
like we don't fucking maybe the science isn't

476
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,760
there to back it up, right, so sure you can't do your own

477
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,719
research exactly. Literally, it's like, all right, fine, I'll drink

478
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,760
that go blood whatever, because the
literal doctor is trying to put leeches on

479
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,760
me and I can't tell the fucking
difference between your two solutions exactly, so

480
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,400
fine, and so they come by
it honestly, right, right, But

481
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:47,760
now when we know better now,
I think maybe bringing at the stake.

482
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:53,800
I don't know. I'm I don't
think snorton shaved coppers like the move,

483
00:34:54,320 --> 00:35:01,519
right. I I mean, when
you were telling Georgia not to eat metal,

484
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,079
I just saw this thing. That's
like people took too much of that

485
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,679
colloidal silver ship. Yeah, his
ex girlfriend would just feed him so right

486
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,639
up their skin turned blue. So
I'm just saying, but whatever, whatever,

487
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,719
maybe that's what you want. Fair. Oh you're having wine. I

488
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,400
thought you weren't having anything hitting me. Now she's shrinking rose. Okay,

489
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,400
perfect, thank you, and then
a beer. I'll take a water,

490
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:34,360
yea sweetheart, you bitch. Stupid, I don't know, stupid, so

491
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,000
dumb it's so stupid morning. Or
do you do two days work out in

492
00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:45,760
the fucking morning like a so crowded? I'm alone wolf boy, That's fine.

493
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,519
I mean I do prefer to when
I do exercise to do it at

494
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:51,559
night, Like I'd rather go for
a run at night than in the morning.

495
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,639
Also, my body's like a if
I do it too early in the

496
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,119
morning, everything aches. Okay,
my whole body hurts. It's fair.

497
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:04,440
Yeah thing, what a sweet should
a sweetheart? Talking about the auto focus

498
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,440
though, Um so, these poor
families made their living in part through healing.

499
00:36:08,039 --> 00:36:13,039
Uh see also witchcraft. I mean
that's witchcraft. But what wasn't witchcraft?

500
00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:15,280
Back down in terms of medicine.
So they the dem Dyke and Chattick's

501
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:20,000
family women, they used a mix
of like herbal medicine, herbal medicine,

502
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,719
talisman's. Do you know what a
talisman is? No? Uh, It's

503
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,960
essentially like giving someone like a pendant
or a rock or whatever, and like

504
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,519
this is magic, hold onto it
a crystal. Oh okay, yeah,

505
00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:31,559
like on the thing whatever. It's
like giving it to keep this on you

506
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,119
and you won't get a tumor.
Yeah yeah again, peopill do that.

507
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:42,119
Yeah, they have those pink salt
lamps. Should we literally have like this

508
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,679
certain crystal that you need for whatever
you're like dealing with. Let's find control

509
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:51,119
healing groups on Facebook half where it's
like, guys, I found a tumor

510
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,360
on my baby, and I just
I do not trust the doctors by the

511
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,800
way, like it would be like, yeah, we got you. My

512
00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:04,760
baby's brain tumors pushed the ear out
a solid fucking four inches, and I

513
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,159
just I need a good crystal recommendation, something I can hammer right into his

514
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:12,559
ear right. Yeah, well you
know this, Jesse, But I'm an

515
00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:17,519
anti vaxer as a dog dad,
Okay, mainly because I'm just too lazy

516
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:21,320
to take him to the vet.
What are you really against it? No,

517
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:22,679
oh, I just have it.
He hasn't gotten a vaccine in like

518
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:29,440
four years. Okay, Yeah,
that his dogs. His dog's heart is

519
00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:31,960
more worm than muscle at this point, right now, that's a lie.

520
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,920
That's kind of they're just trying to
sell you pills at that point. You're

521
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:43,559
not giving a fucking heart or medication. No not lord. Uh, all

522
00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:46,480
the dog lovers who listen to this
show, please dm Dan about that.

523
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:52,519
He's thirteen. There's that's worse.
It's worse. It's worse. Old people

524
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:57,159
need medicine, you can, Yeah, you can get away with that with

525
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,159
like a four year old maybe.
Dog. Oh my god, that's actually

526
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:04,800
a fun fact about the Uh you
would have burned so many witches, Bob,

527
00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:09,599
Yes, yeah, okay, um
so yeah, but all that,

528
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,880
oh, talisman's and charms, which
is basically another version of talisman kind of

529
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,119
to treat all sorts of ailments whatever. But that two people back then,

530
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:22,920
somehow that was sketchy medicine, whereas
normal mainstream medicine was again, I don't

531
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:31,000
leeches blood letting exactly, weird saying
cycles back drilling holes like blood letting.

532
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,480
Yeah, just sometimes you just if
you're if you're a little crazy, sometimes

533
00:38:36,519 --> 00:38:37,840
you just need a little little air
out of the brain. Well we kind

534
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,159
of do that now, right.
We have blood boys Silicon Valley. They

535
00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:45,559
blood of bloodletting. Well, you
let your blood out and you pump yourself

536
00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:50,599
full more blood. That's blood replacement. They didn't weren't able to do any

537
00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:52,239
of that. It was literally like, let's just get a little of this

538
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,679
blood out of you, bud.
You should feel better. It's like you've

539
00:38:55,679 --> 00:38:59,239
got too much. You've got too
much, too much blood. Maybe you

540
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,880
want to get a little and you
would and you will, yeah, right

541
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,639
before you die. Given blood is
weird, man. I one year,

542
00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:07,960
I twice in college because if you
were in a fraterious sorority you had to

543
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,679
get blood twice a year for like
homecoming in Greek week. It's like a

544
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,599
part of those It was like a
weird stipulation. It was part of the

545
00:39:14,679 --> 00:39:17,639
competition, so you got points for
doing okay to win. Always a competition,

546
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,280
always, And like two years I
passed out while doing it, Like

547
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,400
I was just like didn't have enough
blood in me, I guess. And

548
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,920
it was like like halfway through not
because of the needle, like halfway through

549
00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:34,599
us for sure, you're a college
kid. Like, by the way,

550
00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:37,079
how many times did that happen from
like not eating right, not drinking enough

551
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:39,360
water, drink you know what I
mean. Definitely not the needle, though,

552
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,320
wasn't that wasn't the needle. He's
too masculine to pass out from that,

553
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:47,760
Yes, very much so. But
then it probably was like a little

554
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,519
bit. I don't like it.
I fucking hate it, Like no,

555
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:57,800
I'm like really yeah, I hate
getting like a shot a shot is fine

556
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,719
because that's a little baby needle.
But the one in the fuck that shit.

557
00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:06,960
I've seen a lot of the inside
of me to the point that it

558
00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:09,400
doesn't really affect me anymore, right, Like I've seen bones go through my

559
00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:15,599
leg. We've gotten a lot of
like ivs right just because of whatever,

560
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:21,320
So have I And I want to
ask you, like, can you tell

561
00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:24,519
when the person is going to be
able to do it? Yes, yep,

562
00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:30,639
immediately, immediately when they're walking the
room, you can see you just

563
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:35,440
it's something about even if they're acting
like it's a swagger about them, it's

564
00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:38,360
something where I just go, oh, man, I'm gonna fucking bruise and

565
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,000
you're gonna miss the like that.
Now what do you do, sorry,

566
00:40:43,199 --> 00:40:46,360
Like, what do you do when
someone walks in and they look a little

567
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:52,519
shaky with your epidural? Now that
would be that's a no did that happen?

568
00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:57,079
Oh? No not? But I
mean, like for your next bag,

569
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,639
for example, cheer a fuck you
dude, bogo buy one, get

570
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:06,400
one snippet. But typically the best
nurse for an IV it's like late thirties.

571
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,559
You know, she's done her time
and it is you know, a

572
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:15,559
little weathered about over her job,
but late thirties weather, I would go

573
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,199
forties even like I say, late
thirties, early forties. But you know

574
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,280
you can tell she's already over being
a nurse, right yep, but she

575
00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:27,000
has it downpat like yep. It's
what what you want them to do is

576
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:30,519
know your body but not care about
it. Yes, right exactly. Kind

577
00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:34,039
of give you an attitude like you
are. You are almost if you're a

578
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:37,679
fleshy machine and they know right where
all your parts are and they're just gonna

579
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:39,960
when they're like asking, like like
I don't want them to ask. If

580
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,400
they ask me like which side whatever
I go, why don't you fucking know?

581
00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:50,519
Ye? If they ask where it's
a bad sign? Which side do

582
00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:54,079
you know? Which side? Or
like hand or aren't like up her arm

583
00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:58,360
and she just picks the spot,
she'll see the thing you are. He

584
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,840
sees it. I got it right
here, And I'm like, sweet,

585
00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:02,920
you surrender, you going to get
right in there. Yeah, they own

586
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,440
you. Yeah, you're not in
charge of your body. I don't want

587
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,639
to give a fuck like they don't
want to hear like, oh what's the

588
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:13,320
arm that you like? They don't
fucking care. Yeah, I've had that

589
00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:16,239
like a fresh nurse like kind of
bend it inside me. It was awful.

590
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,320
Yeah. I've had where they like
thought that they got it but or

591
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,079
just was like we'll see and then
it's just like a big bulge right there

592
00:42:24,119 --> 00:42:30,079
in your arms. So it's full
dude, Sorry, go ahead anyway,

593
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,840
So they were practicing the sketchy medicine
and that led to accusations of sorcery.

594
00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:44,960
The main accusers teenage back in girl
women just other women, just other women,

595
00:42:45,039 --> 00:42:47,519
women and women on women, women
be hating their own. This is

596
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:52,960
so perfect. They never support It's
so fucking perfect. The best part though,

597
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:57,400
throughout history, they've never supported their
own, these women, And this

598
00:42:57,559 --> 00:43:00,679
is why you will continue to lose
one hundred percent. You dude, I'm

599
00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:02,800
on your side, you know I
am. Yeah, you picked the right

600
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,440
She's a winner. She picked the
right side. I've literally completely agree.

601
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:14,800
Yeah. But more specifically, the
people accusing the chatticks Is and Demdikes were

602
00:43:15,519 --> 00:43:19,480
the chattics Is and Demdikes because you
see, like, okay, they were

603
00:43:19,559 --> 00:43:24,840
healers and other stuff, which means
they were competing businesses. Yes, eliminate

604
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,880
the competition. They were rival families, well, rival poor families, which,

605
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,599
by the way, I don't understand
the point of being a rival family

606
00:43:31,639 --> 00:43:36,639
if you don't have money. Yeah, what what someone's going to roll the

607
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,760
trailer parking? Yeah, exactly for
what? There's no point. That's so

608
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,119
true. And there's so many rivals, like rival families were like, what

609
00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:47,320
are you there? Good fighting over
dude? Literally nothing. I rather be

610
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:52,800
king of the rats than just another
rat. I guess man, I think

611
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,239
I'd rather just go live my if
I was a Selco speak right there.

612
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,760
Yeah that is yeah, that's straight
up Delco. I'll fight for this fucking

613
00:44:00,199 --> 00:44:04,280
Do you know what I think your
best case scenario is in life? Okay,

614
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,239
let's hear it. Have you seen
have you seen Mystic River? No,

615
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:13,320
Sean Penn and Mystic River? Oh
good, Yeah, I don't know

616
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,840
what that means. There's just that
part at the end where what's her what's

617
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,039
that actor's name? She's so good? All right? So for those in

618
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:28,280
a movie, give us like the
kind of synopsis? What what do I

619
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,000
know? That's a senator? I'm
like, what do I achieve? What

620
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:35,719
is best case scenario? You're the
toughest guy in a poor neighborhood. Yeah,

621
00:44:36,679 --> 00:44:43,119
that's not I like, the most
successful, toughest guy in like a

622
00:44:43,679 --> 00:44:47,119
a poor neighborhood where where success is
Oh, Marcia game measured? Oh yeah

623
00:44:47,199 --> 00:44:52,079
yeah, she's probably measured in just
like how badass? Yeah yeah. And

624
00:44:52,159 --> 00:44:54,840
Sean Penn's just sitting there in a
tank top all jack, smoking a cigarette,

625
00:44:55,199 --> 00:44:59,400
wondering if he was like, wondering
if he Yeah, he's king of

626
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,519
the block. Literally the blood literally
and he had just killed this guy he

627
00:45:02,639 --> 00:45:06,199
was pretty sure murdered his daughter,
but then was like, oh, he

628
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,679
definitely didn't. And she was like
it doesn't matter now she's in Boston.

629
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,760
She's like, it doesn't matter now
you're king of the block. Bos strong,

630
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,159
You gotta be strong for the whole
block. The same thing, Yeah,

631
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:22,119
the same two sides of the same
coin. And I love that for

632
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,920
you, do you know what I
mean? Part of me wishes I was

633
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:30,239
in that blue collar life. Absolutely
what's stopping you? You would be literally

634
00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:35,760
of the block. And he's just
sitting there like getting hyped up for this

635
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,400
like king speech and then like and
then I'm like, dude, your entire

636
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,400
house is made out of plastic siting
and you don't even have a yard,

637
00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:45,199
Like, what the fuck are you
king, I know, but like the

638
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,639
other people don't even have the sighting
right, work in construction, playing some

639
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,599
Beer League softball, like ended up
with a girl I went to like junior

640
00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:58,360
prom with. Yeah, well does
happened? Later we'll have to get missed

641
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,400
out later, we'll have to get
you to scream? Is that my daughter

642
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,519
in there? Yeah, we'll just
see, we'll just see if like we're

643
00:46:04,639 --> 00:46:08,199
right. I'll show you the clip
later you'll enjoy it. Maybe we'll show

644
00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:13,320
it on the Patreon to continue it. So they were competitors not only in

645
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,519
healing the chattics Is in the dem
Dikes, but also in begging and extortion

646
00:46:15,679 --> 00:46:21,760
somehow ladies, I guess perfect gypsies. Yeah they're kind of gypsy people,

647
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:27,159
but they're not literally gypsies. But
yeah, so maybe they're kind of thinking,

648
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,679
you know, those if those bitches
get off my street corner, that's

649
00:46:29,679 --> 00:46:32,880
more pennies in my family cup,
right, right. So the dem Dikes

650
00:46:34,559 --> 00:46:37,679
were also not really too fond of
the chattics Is because in sixteen oh one,

651
00:46:37,039 --> 00:46:40,079
a member of the Chattis family broke
into their house and stole like what

652
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:45,760
today would be like one hundred and
fifty dollars worth of stuff. Okay,

653
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,000
which again that's some king of the
block shit, And it's one of those

654
00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:52,400
things where I mean, I'm not
going to get too far ahead. But

655
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:57,400
in the same way that people were
maybe using a couple me two things,

656
00:46:57,679 --> 00:47:00,639
was like, look, I know
how I can get these motherfuckers. Yes

657
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,199
witch, Yeah, I mean people
are all fucking talking about that. You

658
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,280
got to think that was a normal
thing at the time to be like,

659
00:47:06,679 --> 00:47:08,679
oh, witch, I'm gonna accuse
you of being a witch. I will

660
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,880
write to the fucking courthouse. Look
at you. You're ugly. You've got

661
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,760
to leave me. I'm not you. You've got spices in your pocket.

662
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,039
That's questionable. I'll go right to
the poorhouse. You do it to a

663
00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:22,639
guy too, it's a John Proctor. Yeah. Oh. Men. Men

664
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,920
die in witch trials all the time. Why because they also get accused of

665
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,079
being witches or helping witches, being
in league with witches. Okay, like

666
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,639
being all we're also being a witch, being a wizard. I guess they

667
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:40,079
still just called as I know.
The worst death of anyone in the Salem

668
00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:44,239
witch trials was an old man actually, the one they got crushed by a

669
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,159
rock. He got crushed to death, so he would not he wouldn't admit

670
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,320
to being a witch because he was
an ornery old man and he was like,

671
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,480
I'm not a goddamn witch. You
try and get any of our like

672
00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:01,199
like old Grandpa's to admit anything,
right, So they kill the fucking death

673
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,599
with the rocks. Well, know
what they do is they don't beat you

674
00:48:04,679 --> 00:48:06,760
to death of it. They put
a rock on you and they're like you

675
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,119
still think, still say you're not
a witch, and he's like, I'm

676
00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:10,280
not a witch and they're like okay, they put another rock on you,

677
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:13,960
like you're still not a witch,
and he's like, I'm not a guy.

678
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,960
I'm not gonna fucking sam with which
I'm not a fucking So they just

679
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:21,360
keep stacking rocks until he gets crushed
to death. So cool, pretty rad.

680
00:48:21,639 --> 00:48:23,199
Yeah, Well, if they ran
out of rocks and he was just

681
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,880
still holding, you just get fatties, I guess from the town. Yeah.

682
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:31,360
I mean I think they came with
enough to kill someone. So if

683
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,239
you didn't, then it made certainly
an old man. Yeah, it almost

684
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,440
proves that you are, Yeah,
take too much to get crushed. You're

685
00:48:37,559 --> 00:48:39,880
a witch and they have to kill
you in a different way because you're for

686
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,880
sure a witch. Actually, what's
funny is he wouldn't admit it, and

687
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,599
the way witches were killed was much
more humane. You didn't get burned by

688
00:48:46,639 --> 00:48:52,199
the English. Okay, so the
English law didn't burn wishes. That's more

689
00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:53,599
of a mainland europe thing. Like
what did they do? They hung them?

690
00:48:54,039 --> 00:48:59,679
Yeah, okay they hung them.
Um so Jonah Varca burnt she did,

691
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,920
and I was buy the English.
But that was before because right because

692
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,320
she wore men's clothing. Yes,
that was actually what she got executed for.

693
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,039
I was wearing men's clothing. I
noticed those pants, Jesse. I

694
00:49:10,199 --> 00:49:14,480
mean, I've got a blazer.
This is a lot of problem but yeah,

695
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,440
a lot of problematic ship going from
CSS on right now. Yeah,

696
00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:23,599
exactly, I've got those super soft
good goods from CVS. Dude. Now,

697
00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:27,920
I want to make it clear,
I'm not buying like microwaveable socks at

698
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,360
CVS, like I'm an old person
in a trailer park. They're just cool.

699
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,000
There's no way to defend it.
It's fine, but you're I'm gonna

700
00:49:35,039 --> 00:49:39,159
keep doing it. You're buying your
like suit like nice suit socks there.

701
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,519
Sometimes I mean I don't wear it. I don't usually wear him with a

702
00:49:43,559 --> 00:49:47,079
suit because I lack any event to
ever wear a suit too. But yeah,

703
00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:51,000
I wear them, I'll wear them. I'm not surprised. We're gonna

704
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,039
play a game. We're gonna play
a game called Later, like in an

705
00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:55,559
episode or two. Maybe we'll do
a urpr or whatever where it's gonna be

706
00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:59,119
like, guess which of these are
from CVS. No, that's a good

707
00:49:59,159 --> 00:50:01,760
one. And I will you Brooks
Brother socks that I have, Jay Cruise

708
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:06,840
socks that I have and CBS socks, and I guarantee you won't get it

709
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,519
right. I can't wait. I
will say, though it is a step

710
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:13,880
up as a man who probably has
not worn socks for like eight years.

711
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,320
True, because you were just wearing
boat shoes, wearing sperries. Yeah.

712
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:22,880
So, like because it was Halloween, I was gonna maybe come dressed as

713
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,880
Jake, but then I was gonna
be it was like, do I go,

714
00:50:27,039 --> 00:50:28,960
like, do you do the impression
of Jake? Do you do the

715
00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:36,119
voice? The bro voice? Oh? Huh yeah, I mean I don't

716
00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:40,360
know, I don't know. I
don't know. Um, like me and

717
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:45,320
Katie usually with our costume, he
has oh man what is. He's different.

718
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,559
It's not quite a bro usually no, no, no, no,

719
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:53,639
his voice is full bro, but
his personality is and like yeah kipsterry.

720
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,599
Yeah, so so what did someone
he liked he like put He's like bro,

721
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,599
he's like bro face on you know
what I mean? Like he looks

722
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:02,920
and sounds like a robe. Yes, but he's not. But he's not.

723
00:51:04,039 --> 00:51:06,440
But he's really not. Yeah.
I mean he can be about like

724
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,840
Collegurtball, but that's about it.
It'll come out every once in a while.

725
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:15,400
Yeah, but yeah, that's my
only do you like? My impression

726
00:51:15,519 --> 00:51:21,360
is just him not knowing. I
do not know. I don't know.

727
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,039
That's all you need to do,
right, It works. He doesn't know.

728
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:28,880
I don't know. Very rarely does
he very rarely doesn't ever know.

729
00:51:29,159 --> 00:51:32,840
Right, But it's a it's it's
cute and endearing and you know, Jake,

730
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,960
it's so funny. Yeah. I
do love his voice. I do

731
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:40,320
love the disconnect between his voice and
his great character. And as much as

732
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,880
I give him shit, it'd be
like if I mean, it's like it's

733
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:49,559
almost like like an l Woods situation. Sure you know what I mean?

734
00:51:49,639 --> 00:51:52,400
Yeah, Yeah, it's like she
gets into Harvard Law. But she looks

735
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,920
and sounds like how she looks and
sounds exactly like he's baking bread, Like

736
00:51:55,119 --> 00:52:00,840
I don't so shit, bro like, like I would never say this to

737
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,840
his face. But he's a great
guy. Same like, you know,

738
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,800
I hope he doesn't watch this.
I'm saying like good things about him and

739
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:16,800
like we have a thing where I
can't do that, so I hope he

740
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:22,639
doesn't listen. Now, he's great
guy. Bread looks awesome, The bread

741
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,559
is Joe bread is good. You
know, great job, great wife.

742
00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:30,760
Right, he's got everything, He's
got everything. Um, Okay, moving

743
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:37,320
on from that. Aside the Pendle
witch trials, despite all the back and

744
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:42,199
forth accusing and everything like that that
happened, there was a specific inciding incident,

745
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,480
okay, that screwed these witches over. I guess. The good and

746
00:52:45,679 --> 00:52:51,679
kind gentleman John Law, a peddler
aka traveling salesman, happened to be in

747
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,239
the area, just a good,
god fearing man trying to make a living

748
00:52:54,559 --> 00:53:01,960
sure. Unfortunately for him, he
crossed paths with Elizabeth Demdike's granddaughter, Alizon

749
00:53:02,159 --> 00:53:08,559
device named no doubt because she was
a device of the devil or devisive in

750
00:53:08,679 --> 00:53:13,679
court no. I think everyone was
pretty united about her in court. Her

751
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,840
of all people, as you'll find. Okay, um Alason asked the good

752
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:23,199
and kind and it's a l i
z o n oh okay, See,

753
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:30,679
I thought you were saying fucking Alison
weird now now Alazon, Alison, Alazon

754
00:53:30,679 --> 00:53:34,960
Alason. We give couples now a
hard time for the names they pick,

755
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,840
but back in the day just threw
anything out. Yeah sounds it's spelled like

756
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:43,480
a Narni, a lion, you
know what I mean? Alazon? Oh

757
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:47,360
Alazon? Yeah, oh good,
Alazon brought it in the save of the

758
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:52,559
day. She was saving no one
though. Alison uh asked the good and

759
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:59,400
kind and humble, hard working,
christ fearing gentleman John Law for some metal

760
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,800
pins. At this time, metal
pins were often used in witchcraft for love

761
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:07,880
spells, divination, uh and healing
warts or healing warts or whatever. This

762
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,119
is pre industrial revolution, so these
are handmade you know what I mean.

763
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,679
Isn't like factory made pins. Sharp
metal pins, Yeah, like you would

764
00:54:16,679 --> 00:54:22,559
maybe sewing or whatever. But they
were also used for other stuff like case

765
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:30,320
and you could I guess maybe like
popples or no, for the love spells

766
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:31,920
and stuff, maybe you need to
prick a blood, that type of thing.

767
00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:37,000
Whatever. So she asked him for
some metal pins. But this literal

768
00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:42,280
uh angel on earth, John Law
was suspicious of the request, as he

769
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,719
should have been. The ratty,
this ratty suspicious woman asking him for metal

770
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:51,559
pins, which everyone knows is for
witchcraft. She loves like a witch.

771
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,800
She wants literally just like someone being
like hey man, yeah, and she's

772
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:00,320
asking yeah she or I'm sorry.
Accounts of vary, but Law's son Abraham

773
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:06,679
Abraham claims that she was asking Law
just an honest working man who goes to

774
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:12,039
church every Sunday. She just give
her the pins. She just begging for

775
00:55:12,159 --> 00:55:16,119
pins. Alison claims Yeah. Alison, who comes from a family of beggars,

776
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,760
claims she was going to pay for
them. Who knows how You're right?

777
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:24,599
Yeah exactly, Um with gipsy tears
do yeah exactly, idiot. Uh

778
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,440
Law, though, smart man that
he is, said no, get away

779
00:55:28,519 --> 00:55:31,559
from me, went on his way
down the road. Twaiter bitch, Yeah,

780
00:55:31,679 --> 00:55:37,079
I'm done with you garbage. Then, as Alison was standing there Matt

781
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:42,440
about not getting a hand out,
a black dog with flaming eyes appeared.

782
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:50,639
Okay, the dog spoke English and
was like, this is the this is

783
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:55,159
the modern translation of it. Give
me to fuck him up. I believe

784
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,599
he literally said, according to testimony, do you want me to lame him?

785
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:05,039
That's what the dogs at. What
fucking world are we in? Which

786
00:56:05,159 --> 00:56:08,639
is world? When you're fucking make
them ups? You guys? Okay,

787
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,119
so she said, well check it
out. Most of history is make them

788
00:56:12,199 --> 00:56:16,920
up. Yere by the winners.
He's not saying right, No, that's

789
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:21,400
true. Yeah, he's not saying
it's her right yeah. And Alison was

790
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:28,159
like, yeah, okay. And
then she watched John Law stroke out,

791
00:56:29,559 --> 00:56:31,559
Oh he had a stroke, dropped
into the muddy road, and was just

792
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,159
by staring into the dog's eyes.
No, the dog was like, we

793
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,159
don't fuck him up, and she
was like yeah. And then and then

794
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:43,559
John didn't even have to do anything
like with his mind. Was like cool.

795
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,800
Did he become like a smoke monster
that penetrated the man's mind? No,

796
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:52,159
man, it's just it's a dog
knows what he's doing. I think

797
00:56:52,199 --> 00:56:55,320
the dog was just able to like, look, if I'm going into this

798
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,239
world, I'm going into the world
right, get into it in his in

799
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,360
his mind, the dog just seems
like an unnecessary vessel. No, so

800
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,039
the dog was we talked about this
last time. You might sit off of

801
00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:08,119
her and puts it on something else
as far as like if you're if you're

802
00:57:08,159 --> 00:57:10,480
going to court or what have you. Well, no, no, no,

803
00:57:10,639 --> 00:57:13,840
actually it makes it worse. I
have the dog there. So we

804
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,000
talked about this last time. You
want to remember on the sum story,

805
00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:21,119
which is episode a common thing in
English which folklore. There was a very

806
00:57:21,159 --> 00:57:27,519
different mainland Europe, Catholic Europe especially, but mainland Europe in general had a

807
00:57:27,559 --> 00:57:35,000
different interpretation of what whitches did than
than English. In the englisphere and according

808
00:57:35,039 --> 00:57:38,440
to the English, which is usually
had what they called a familiar, which

809
00:57:38,519 --> 00:57:43,039
is an animal companion who could speak
to them. Think like Salem the cat

810
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,920
there um, that type of thing. So this was a familiar that turned

811
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:51,320
out to be uh, the same
type of familiar they talked about Lair.

812
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,320
It was her grandmother's familiar. Okay, dog with flaming eyes by the name

813
00:57:55,360 --> 00:58:02,000
of Ball, Ball, Ball,
the dog all the dog, Yes,

814
00:58:02,519 --> 00:58:07,159
we get alas it was also the
devil, but we don't get the person's

815
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,239
names alas on. But they go
with ball yeah, but the dog.

816
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:14,280
Yeah, that's where we lose the
creativity. Okay, look, you gotta

817
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,400
you know that's as much. So
Law had a stroke, but despite that,

818
00:58:16,719 --> 00:58:20,320
he did manage to get up and
make his way to an end to

819
00:58:20,559 --> 00:58:23,920
seek help and rest or whatever.
So he gets the end stroked out,

820
00:58:24,039 --> 00:58:29,639
He stroked out and crawled his way. Basically. Yeah. So upon seeing

821
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,840
upon seeing Law stroke out, Alison
was like, holy shit, I have

822
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:39,400
powers. Okay. So here's the
thing. We don't know if the dog

823
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:44,639
was there for sure one way or
the other. We certainly don't know if

824
00:58:44,679 --> 00:58:51,440
it had flaming eyes or not.
Yeah, if it's gonna be he is

825
00:58:51,519 --> 00:58:54,679
confirmed. Though, is that Law
is that als An asked Law for the

826
00:58:54,760 --> 00:59:00,239
pins. They only dispute whether or
not it was for free. That Law

827
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:05,920
said no, That Law then walked
away. That Law had a stroke.

828
00:59:06,159 --> 00:59:10,360
This is sure, absolutely true.
We are connecting. And Alison watched him

829
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:15,679
have a stroke and was like,
ha ha, oh my god. Okay,

830
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,280
the power I have powers. Whether
the dog is there or not irrelevant,

831
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,159
She was like to watching Law have
a stroke convinced Alison that she had

832
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:28,679
magical powers. Open and shutcase,
Johnson, Right, yeah, and that

833
00:59:29,119 --> 00:59:32,840
that will come into play later.
Law meanwhile, though He had no suspicions

834
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,159
of Alison causing a stroke. He
was just like, well I had a

835
00:59:36,159 --> 00:59:38,880
stroke. That sucks really near him? Right, No, he was down

836
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,920
a little bit down. Mean,
you could see him. I don't know

837
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,440
how far. I don't know if
he was like us to the door or

838
00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:46,519
us to the and I will,
but I will say, you guys do

839
00:59:46,719 --> 00:59:51,679
soft pre history, so you probably
encounter this a lot. Where like back

840
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:57,320
in the day, coincidences were like
not really thought of in that way.

841
00:59:57,599 --> 01:00:01,320
No, they were like trying to
be very often trying to find meaning in

842
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:07,960
imagining coincidence, which would spawn some
weird ass shit. Right. Imagine if

843
01:00:07,039 --> 01:00:13,360
everyone lived their life the way you
do. Not you but like the royal

844
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:17,320
you do when you're upset and a
song you like comes on the radio and

845
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:21,360
you think it's a sign exactly right, Like they just needed. They were

846
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:27,239
trying to find real meaning, an
explanation for every Yes, which is a

847
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:31,320
dangerous place to be right, not
ideal will either blame weird people or come

848
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,679
up with insane shit. Start,
yeah, start to believe magic is everywhere,

849
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:42,960
God is real. Whoa that it
doesn't happen? Now it definitely does.

850
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,320
Um, I think I don't think
much, but yeah, I think

851
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:52,119
people try to see you know,
gets sound annoying, I guess maybe,

852
01:00:52,159 --> 01:00:53,239
and then it gets dangerous, it
does. People do it the same way

853
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:57,159
now, it's just it's not really
like religious anymore. But it's like,

854
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,480
you know, you're such a systemic
racism or the deep state or you know

855
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:06,199
what I mean, or what are
you meaning? I'm just saying, like,

856
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,280
what's what's your song? Girl?
Yeah, also that people do,

857
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:14,239
but like, uh, you're right, you're right. I was just trying

858
01:01:14,239 --> 01:01:16,239
to think. I just want to
you know. I think back in the

859
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:22,239
day it was a lot, a
lot more problematic, but we can argue

860
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,280
that for sure. I think it's
problematic now. Well what we'd like to

861
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:30,679
say is shit don't change. So
people try to put these overarching things onto

862
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:35,719
life. They try to organize life, and I think, oh, man,

863
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,559
I can't remember the exact quote,
but um, just to get a

864
01:01:37,679 --> 01:01:42,199
little deep here and I apologist kind
of, you know, please don't it's

865
01:01:42,199 --> 01:01:45,800
a little too philosophical. But at
the end of Avengers two, Age of

866
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:57,559
Altron of Good spoilers that good I
actually skipped talking about as Grandma or yeah,

867
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:02,280
okay, go ahead, Um,
vision talks about how humans think order

868
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:07,840
and chaos are opposites. Okay,
but they're not. But really, but

869
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,880
they're not. There are two sides
of the same coin. Yeah, exactly,

870
01:02:12,039 --> 01:02:14,559
but they're not. Yeah. Yeah, it's a great speech, really

871
01:02:14,599 --> 01:02:17,840
good philosophical piece of filmmaking. Um, yes, I would check it out,

872
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,480
some of our best work, I
think. So I already get too

873
01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:23,760
deep, guys, Um, but
yeah. Law had no suspicion of Alison

874
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,440
doing anything. He was just like, oh, I had a stroke.

875
01:02:25,519 --> 01:02:29,000
I'm old, walk a lot,
you know, sometimes you have a stroke.

876
01:02:29,079 --> 01:02:31,840
Because she wasn't around she stroked out
right, She was the one that

877
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:36,360
was trying to find the meaning in
the last point of contact though. Yeah

878
01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:42,800
well yeah yeah. So somehow,
for some reason, Law's son Abra Right,

879
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,559
No, so Law's son Abraham came
into town to um, you know

880
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:50,880
about his dad, and for some
reason he brought Alison to see his stroked

881
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,239
out dad. In the end a
few days later, and Alison, upon

882
01:02:53,559 --> 01:02:58,840
seeing her stroke stroke victim and already
being convinced that she had powers. I

883
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,000
guess he was pretty stroked out because
she felt really bad and confessed to giving

884
01:03:02,079 --> 01:03:06,079
John while at the stroke. I
thought she was going to go in and

885
01:03:06,159 --> 01:03:09,880
finish the job right. No,
she had a heart of gold. She

886
01:03:10,039 --> 01:03:15,280
realized that she couldn't handle her powers
with great power. One stroke and she

887
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,840
gives it out and she was like, oh my god, Twitter, your

888
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,960
face isn't moving. Half your face
isn't moving. This is terrible. I'm

889
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,400
so sorry I did it because you
wouldn't give me the pins. She's not

890
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:28,559
about that life. Yeah, I
couldn't handle it, couldn't handle a stroke

891
01:03:28,719 --> 01:03:30,960
victim. So she straight up thought
she gave this guy a stroke and begged

892
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:36,519
for forgiveness. And I have to
say, genuinely, this is one of

893
01:03:36,559 --> 01:03:39,679
the worst cell phones I've ever written. She told on herself for something she

894
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:49,239
didn't do. Really, God,
this is that commercial um for sportsmanship where

895
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,320
the ball goes out and he comes
out on me. Coach, It's like,

896
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:57,239
shut the fuck up, just shut
your goddamn mouth because the other team

897
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,719
is not going to return the fun
favor. No one ever does that,

898
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,280
No, nor should you, No
cheat? No? What was it?

899
01:04:04,519 --> 01:04:11,000
Um? What was that movie Something
versus Ferrari for Ferrari? And how fucking

900
01:04:11,039 --> 01:04:15,000
infuriating was that? There's just like, oh yeah, that was a movie

901
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:23,119
where the guy six year old men
deep down you know that's what I am,

902
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,880
right, yeah, um, But
anyways, it's the same concept where

903
01:04:27,039 --> 01:04:29,880
you know he's about to win,
he's about to finally do it, and

904
01:04:30,039 --> 01:04:34,519
hung back to like make it so
they both would come. It was like,

905
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:41,480
you know, some kind of Ford
Ferrari in Cahoot's business situation. So

906
01:04:41,639 --> 01:04:45,519
he was like gonna fucking totally pull
ahead and then was like, let me

907
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:53,679
whatever and guess who fucking gun head
because they didn't fucking care, right exact,

908
01:04:55,199 --> 01:04:57,840
I will say that, don't fucking
do it. Fucks the game up,

909
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,400
dude, I should point. You
should say the ball is out on

910
01:05:00,519 --> 01:05:05,039
you if you're like if it's like
borderline, but you're pretty sure they already

911
01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:09,320
know if you're playing, that's me, that's me, that's me, that's

912
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:13,119
me. Because then you want to
say you want to sound more credible when

913
01:05:13,199 --> 01:05:17,440
it is a straight up ball and
you're like, no, no, you're

914
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,440
gonna be like the guy on your
team that's just like, oh my bad,

915
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:23,360
not bad. He taps his chest
and it's like, yeah, we

916
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,079
know what's you're a bad man.
Like you said, that's stupid, that's

917
01:05:26,159 --> 01:05:29,400
stupid. Yeah, I'm just telling
you sometimes you got to play the game

918
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:33,599
within the game. Never fucking call
the ship on yourself ever, ever,

919
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:38,000
ever, typically, No, I'm
just saying, you only call the ones

920
01:05:38,039 --> 01:05:42,159
on yourself that are already obvious.
So it seems like you're giving them if

921
01:05:42,199 --> 01:05:44,920
it's obvious, they would say,
sometimes that's what I'm saying in the semi

922
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:45,960
obvious. Well, you know,
like it's not really borderline, but you

923
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,880
there are some people who would be
a dick about it because you know that

924
01:05:49,039 --> 01:05:53,679
too, right where there's people who
clearly it was probably out on them,

925
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,599
but they're like no, no,
like they protest too much on shit.

926
01:05:56,719 --> 01:05:59,719
That doesn't matter. You don't want
to be that guy either. No,

927
01:06:00,039 --> 01:06:01,840
you don't want to be that chippy
little bitch. You don't want who who

928
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,920
never does anything wrong? Don't say
it damn thing. I agree with that

929
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:09,400
too. Yeah, that's like your
whole life. Sorry I didn't I didn't

930
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,039
see That's what which is not great. That's a podcaster I know, like

931
01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:15,639
half of the pot I mean,
courney joke about that be like yeah,

932
01:06:15,719 --> 01:06:20,599
Dan's oh actually my my father in
law asked, or like he was like

933
01:06:20,679 --> 01:06:24,280
so that damn guy he didn't talk
a lot on the podcast. Well,

934
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,159
I try to. It's hard to
get a word in with me and Courtney.

935
01:06:27,159 --> 01:06:28,719
You're like, no, that's a
stick. He's like, yeah,

936
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,400
I'm on a podcast, but I
don't talk. Yeah. But also you

937
01:06:31,639 --> 01:06:38,239
you, you and Jake trample all
over my words. Now that's just that's

938
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:43,400
blaming. Mh. Just get it
out in the open, all right,

939
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,760
I'll let you fill the silence next
time. You know what I mean?

940
01:06:47,639 --> 01:06:55,159
You know what I didn't go to
exactly exactly. He's very thoughtful as what

941
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:59,360
it is, and again it doesn't
work podcast wise. He's thought, he's

942
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:03,440
thinking about what he wants to say. An intellectual, super intellect. You

943
01:07:03,519 --> 01:07:09,480
definitely abide by that Mark Twain quote
basically like no reason to talk and let

944
01:07:09,519 --> 01:07:13,400
everyone know you're stupid. Oh yeah, um oh, I thought you're gonna

945
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,000
say, like I didn't have time
to write a short letter. Stay stay

946
01:07:16,079 --> 01:07:20,559
silent, he thought, a fool
rather than open your mouth and yeah,

947
01:07:20,719 --> 01:07:28,239
yeah, well no I'm a moron. Well damn it. Oh just be

948
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:32,440
silent. It is what is so
anyway. Naturally, Allison was immediately turned

949
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:36,880
into authorities for confessing to giving John
Law a stroke. She didn't give him

950
01:07:40,199 --> 01:07:45,079
dude. Alison, her brother James, and her mom Elizabeth were brought before

951
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:49,199
the authorities on March thirtieth, sixteen
twelve. The authorities were like, Okay,

952
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:55,000
we know about the John Law stuff. Did you do anything else?

953
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:01,239
So then she has to like think
back to any coincidence. I guess Alison

954
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:06,360
was. I guess the first coincidence
she admitted to was selling her soul to

955
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:14,960
the devil. She was like,
first place she went, yeah, yeah,

956
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:19,680
allegedly, and then her brother James
testified the Alixon also confessed to bewitching

957
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:29,720
a child. Uh, Elizabeth who
is the daughter Yes, Alison has completely

958
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,520
gasol at herself. Elizabeth who is
the daughter of the other Elizabeth, Elizabeth

959
01:08:34,319 --> 01:08:40,279
whatever dem dyke, the old bitch
matriarch of the family. Uh. She

960
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:44,720
said. She was like, yeah, actually my mom has a mark on

961
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,359
her that is definitely from the devil. Uh, consensually sucking her blood?

962
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:56,359
Bro, Why are they giving up
all of this? That was the kind

963
01:08:56,439 --> 01:09:00,039
of culture at that. I don't
know. Why are they giving up so

964
01:09:00,199 --> 01:09:01,600
much shit? Is it like when
a cop brings you in and they're like,

965
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,159
just tell us now, it will
be so much worse. That's what

966
01:09:04,239 --> 01:09:06,640
I mean, which is a fucking
lie. By the way, for sure,

967
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:11,000
don't no cops tell the truth all
the time. Don't ever, it's

968
01:09:11,039 --> 01:09:15,079
gonna be so much Honestly, here's
here's exactly what you should say if a

969
01:09:15,159 --> 01:09:19,199
police officer tells you just tell us
now, or it's gonna be so much

970
01:09:19,239 --> 01:09:24,039
worse for you later. Say this
back to them, exactly, why are

971
01:09:24,079 --> 01:09:28,399
you the judge too? You say, am I under arrest? Am I

972
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,720
under arrest? And if you're not, you believe? And if you are,

973
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:38,199
you get a lawyer. Not ever
ever. Just pretty easy sentence to

974
01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:41,079
say to them. It's going to
calm the situation down. Okay, I

975
01:09:41,119 --> 01:09:45,319
have a knife. Yeah, that's
a good one. That's a good one.

976
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:53,239
Take my blood. Yeah, I'm
not blowing. I'm not blown.

977
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:56,319
Bro. I don't even know each
state's different. I forget what it is,

978
01:09:56,359 --> 01:09:58,279
but I think my I work for
a really good d you I learned

979
01:09:58,319 --> 01:10:01,600
he's like, don't blow. Okay, so you automatically lose your license.

980
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:06,319
I think it depends on the state. Yeah I heard that too. You

981
01:10:06,399 --> 01:10:10,439
have a dewey, don't you?
For sure? Didn't make a couple couple

982
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:15,760
for sure back in the day,
are they all La A couple mug shots.

983
01:10:15,359 --> 01:10:17,760
You guys tried to look for them. I think you had to pay

984
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,720
for them, but they're in LA. Yeah. Oh, it's like super

985
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:24,800
easy to find my ex girlfriends mug
shots. Really well, it's also super

986
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:29,159
easy to get into Ui Lax.
It's super easy. It's you know,

987
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,520
horrible. It's to the point where
like they are dui hunters, dui hunters,

988
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,880
especially where I lived. And then
also, I mean, there's no

989
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:41,840
excuse, which I learned in alcohol
school. Totally my fault. But however,

990
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,520
very spread out there, no fucking
ubers, no fucking taxis. Well,

991
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:50,159
eventually they're on the fucking hunt.
That's how we, like twelve twelve

992
01:10:50,279 --> 01:10:55,960
ubers cost as much as a d
uy in Los Angeles exactly was I mean,

993
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,520
if you uber twelve nights, that's
a duy. Yeah, it's ten

994
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:03,000
thousand right off the bat, and
then subsequently like every year. But anyway,

995
01:11:03,079 --> 01:11:06,159
that's how we built the entire city
and made it look super nice and

996
01:11:06,239 --> 01:11:11,279
everything that it is. Sure,
what do you guys don't you think?

997
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,880
Oh? I just don't think LA
looks super nice, not anymore. But

998
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,560
when I was fucking paying them,
No, no, no, there are

999
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,159
there are nice little parts of LA
that I think are incredible, but like

1000
01:11:20,359 --> 01:11:25,279
a city as a whole, I
think it's and that's even before like I

1001
01:11:25,279 --> 01:11:29,199
haven't any time about like Liberals Room, I'm not even talking about it.

1002
01:11:29,279 --> 01:11:32,880
Yeah, I never thought it was
like in at buy and large and esthetically

1003
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:38,319
pleasing city. Let me say,
like the beach towns then so like Ventura,

1004
01:11:39,359 --> 01:11:42,800
either Venice, Orange County, like
they literally like in parts of LA

1005
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,880
that are like Los Angeles proper that
I think are gorgeous, and they used

1006
01:11:46,079 --> 01:11:51,039
that little bit, had to like
make that part nice for that year of

1007
01:11:51,199 --> 01:11:56,680
DUI fucking money, and then they
move on to something else or parking ticket,

1008
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,039
the parking ticket and DUI. Basically
anything nice you see in LA is

1009
01:12:00,079 --> 01:12:06,840
because of that. College campuses are
built on parking tickets and and MP's actually

1010
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:13,720
and college campers are built on parking
tickets and college police departments. They're so

1011
01:12:14,079 --> 01:12:15,640
like where I went to college,
and I was in like a true college

1012
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,760
town. You were at least in
Orlando or were you in a like you

1013
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,960
don't know where you seefs. It's
in a smaller municipality. It's in a

1014
01:12:23,079 --> 01:12:25,439
Veto. Really Yeah, Okay,
so yeah, so you were kind of

1015
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:30,479
the same way. But uh,
these smaller munis or small towns or whatever.

1016
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:31,840
Columbia is not like super small.
It's like eighty thousand people, so

1017
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,920
it's not like a you know,
like five thousand person town or something.

1018
01:12:35,279 --> 01:12:41,199
But those police, they it's like
a speed trap. But they but for

1019
01:12:41,279 --> 01:12:45,079
alcohol. Yeah you know what I
mean, h m ips walking through the

1020
01:12:45,159 --> 01:12:51,000
bars, checking IDs. They sometimes
they would set up walking checkpoints at the

1021
01:12:51,079 --> 01:12:55,800
front of the at the at the
beginning of Greektown where all the fraternians and

1022
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:59,640
sororities were to catch miners walking home
drunk. Dude, knock on what I've

1023
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,840
never on through a checkpoint. Yeah, I'll just tell you real quick about

1024
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,439
the last one. So I got
pulled over for going too slow. Have

1025
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:09,840
I told this? No, I
got pulled over going too slow. I

1026
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:14,840
got a Dell Taco burger and was
eating it as if I was inside a

1027
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,119
restaurant in my car. I mean
it was on the highway. I can

1028
01:13:17,199 --> 01:13:20,399
waste it yet not highway, but
it was like I was almost to my

1029
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:28,039
house. La whatever Echo Park got
pulled over, you just covered and lettuce

1030
01:13:28,119 --> 01:13:31,039
and oil bro I was point like
two five, So like I don't know

1031
01:13:32,119 --> 01:13:35,600
and so, but it was it
was not for like any other I was

1032
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:39,960
like literally about to turn onto my
street, but I was going so slow

1033
01:13:40,399 --> 01:13:45,119
and just like I didn't I just
didn't know where I was. And I

1034
01:13:45,279 --> 01:13:47,000
go, I'm not blowing right,
So I'd like go to the station.

1035
01:13:47,399 --> 01:13:53,159
Blood bad idea just saying all that
to say, just blow right there,

1036
01:13:53,279 --> 01:13:56,960
because as you go on, depending
on how much you drank, like your

1037
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,600
blood alcohol rises. Yeah, so
just like get it done right then.

1038
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:02,479
Also, I'm sorry, I think
I got it wrong. You should blow

1039
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:05,239
there because the way. So,
I worked for one of the best UI

1040
01:14:05,359 --> 01:14:10,479
cops in the country when I was
in college. Um like, I was

1041
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:14,560
an intern there over the summer and
because my mom had been a judge at

1042
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:15,760
the time, and he was in
front of her a lot with his You're

1043
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,159
like the fucking murdocks. What are
you talking about? I was good to

1044
01:14:18,239 --> 01:14:21,479
the way. Yeah, yeah,
I did anything is legal for me in

1045
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:28,840
missarium. But uh he what he
would do is he would essentially fuck all

1046
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:34,439
these cops and get people out of
like wild wild DUIs. He would list

1047
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:39,439
them on his website of like the
craziest pete thing, like he got one

1048
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:44,039
woman out of a dui who literally
crashed into a police car. Yeah,

1049
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,239
because here's the thing, here's what
every cop does wrong. They don't know.

1050
01:14:48,319 --> 01:14:55,720
There is a very specific set of
ways to do the sobriety test,

1051
01:14:55,840 --> 01:15:00,960
and if you do not do them
exactly in the justice system, you got

1052
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,920
out of jail for sure. If
you do not do it exactly how it's

1053
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,920
supposed to be done. And most
of these dumb, dumb cops don't know

1054
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,279
how to do it right because it's
very just like all over the place.

1055
01:15:11,399 --> 01:15:15,000
It's probably different for every state too. Nah, maybe every state. Maybe

1056
01:15:15,039 --> 01:15:19,079
every state. I don't know though, But if you don't do it exactly

1057
01:15:19,319 --> 01:15:24,560
right, the evidence is no longer
admissible. And if they if they make

1058
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:29,439
you blow in the field, they
won't make you blow in the at the

1059
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,000
station. I think is something usually
but it doesn't matter. But it doesn't

1060
01:15:31,039 --> 01:15:35,279
matter if they fuck up the process
in any way, that evidence gone.

1061
01:15:36,079 --> 01:15:41,159
Now, Jesse, remember during the
protests or the couple that was kind of

1062
01:15:41,199 --> 01:15:46,000
holding their guns flamboyantly. That's Rob's
parents. That's like, if you want

1063
01:15:46,039 --> 01:15:49,680
to give me a picture of like
that, I wish their house is dope.

1064
01:15:50,279 --> 01:15:53,720
The house was dope their house,
so I know the part of Saint

1065
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,279
Louis they live in where it's like
all it's like in the city, so

1066
01:15:56,479 --> 01:16:00,680
it's like sketchy crime, but it's
like neighbor Yeah, she's figure on the

1067
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:04,000
chair. Yeah. One of my
buddies was like defending them or whatever,

1068
01:16:04,039 --> 01:16:06,439
and it was like they're on their
property, bid blah blah. And I

1069
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,279
was like, all right, well, at least give me this, like

1070
01:16:09,399 --> 01:16:13,399
this should have gone something like,
dude, that it was the worst triggered

1071
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,760
trigger discipline I've ever seen in my
life. And I'm not even a shooter.

1072
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,600
Those people probably shouldn't. Yeah,
exactly, like they looked like they

1073
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:24,680
should have guns carry on right,
Yeah, but her in particular, oh

1074
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:30,479
that if anything anybody ran by,
I mean they were getting right shot.

1075
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,079
And also though the accident the other
thing two with those of the mccloskey's their

1076
01:16:33,159 --> 01:16:39,159
name, um the Foxes, Yes, yes, yes, yes, might

1077
01:16:39,279 --> 01:16:45,119
as well be uh, dude,
like stay in your house with guns drawn

1078
01:16:45,199 --> 01:16:47,199
ready if people run up, you
don't walk out under the lawn and be

1079
01:16:47,319 --> 01:16:51,479
like who wants them? Yeah,
but if you're pissed because they tore down

1080
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:56,359
your neighborhood, get you're just pissed
it the where the country is gone,

1081
01:16:57,359 --> 01:17:00,880
then you go outside, right,
seems like, I don't know, strategically

1082
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,039
not great. I guess if you
want a virtue signal, it's a good

1083
01:17:02,039 --> 01:17:06,239
way to do things. Sure.
Um. Anyway, these witch cops they

1084
01:17:06,279 --> 01:17:10,000
weren't dumb, so they got the
dem Dykes, they got these bitches,

1085
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,800
but they know those other witches.
They know the Chattics is or witchy as

1086
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,439
well. So they asked the Dem
Dikes do you not like the Chatticks is?

1087
01:17:17,079 --> 01:17:23,399
Hey, are the Chattucks is up
to anything witchy? And Alison was

1088
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:27,720
like, oh, hell yeah they
are, right, Alison accused and wittle

1089
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:32,560
the Chatticks matriarchs. So the old
Chattucks lady of killing four men via witchcraft.

1090
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,439
And you know, Alison was credible
because she knew the devil right and

1091
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:41,239
she had already like told on herself. Oh yeah, so like supercredible,

1092
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,760
like you were saying, like calling
yourself out, you know, all going

1093
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,640
out now, You're gonna be credible
yep for whatever else you yep. Also,

1094
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:53,960
this is the eighty year old woman
we're talking about now, that's Alison

1095
01:17:54,079 --> 01:17:57,520
is accusing the eighty year old Chattics
matriarch, and it checks out because like

1096
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,119
who lives out long? Who lives
that long? Looks looks like a yeah,

1097
01:18:00,159 --> 01:18:02,359
which is a gross. She looks
probably always in mourning, like I

1098
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,399
said, So she's in black all
the time, covered in pe like a

1099
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:10,199
witch would be. Alison also said
that the Chatticks matriarch killed her dad,

1100
01:18:10,239 --> 01:18:13,920
who died in sixteen o one.
Alison claimed that actually her dad, John

1101
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:18,920
Device was so afraid of Anne whittle
Um that he promised to pay her eight

1102
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:24,119
pounds of oatmeal a year. I
guess unprompted if she promised not to hurt

1103
01:18:24,239 --> 01:18:28,199
his family. But in sixteen oh
one, apparently he didn't pay up.

1104
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:33,000
Oatmeal didn't come huh yeah, bad
oatmeal crop that year. Yeah, and

1105
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:39,560
oatmeal cometh. The oatmeal did not
come in, and Whittle the Chatticks matriarch

1106
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:44,079
was like, well, boom,
I'm gonna kill you. So naturally,

1107
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:48,279
the Chatticks clan and old Elizabeth Demdike, who was not at the original questioning,

1108
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:54,000
we're all brought in for questioning.
At this point. Both Elizabeth Demdyke

1109
01:18:54,159 --> 01:18:59,880
and a Chatticks were so old that
they were literally blind. God and if

1110
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,600
the old yeah, and if the
old women in the Salem witch trials were

1111
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,239
in any indication. I don't know
if you knew this, but several women

1112
01:19:05,279 --> 01:19:10,000
of the same age were accused in
the Salem witch trials and they were literally

1113
01:19:10,039 --> 01:19:15,079
recorded as being incontinent, so they
were just like leaking p the entire time

1114
01:19:15,119 --> 01:19:19,920
they were being accused of witchcraft.
I can't imagine these women were much better

1115
01:19:20,239 --> 01:19:25,680
if they couldn't even see. Oh
my god, I did so many stuff

1116
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:30,439
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discounts it's even better check it out. All right, let's get back to

1223
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:51,840
this witchtop. Like all these weird
as all started because Alison was like,

1224
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:55,359
oh my god, I gave this
guy's stroke and then felt bad and then

1225
01:25:55,399 --> 01:26:01,479
it was like I'm a witch.
Nothing can unravel like and just like Domino

1226
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:10,000
horrible. That's kind of effect than
a woman a common through. I mean,

1227
01:26:10,119 --> 01:26:13,479
we can just this is really the
ultimate case of a woman apologizing too

1228
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:19,159
much. Yeah, I mean just
just not understanding that things that you do

1229
01:26:19,319 --> 01:26:27,920
and say can fucking completely annihilate.
Yeah, just that that idea did.

1230
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,640
We also have a distrust of the
blind, or like maybe too much of

1231
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,319
a trust in the blind, because
like there's a theme of like Greeks,

1232
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:38,560
the Vikings everything, they're like fortune
tellers or seekers were always like blind to

1233
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,920
shit and like foggy eyed. Yeah
you know what I mean, Like their

1234
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:44,640
their dead eyes were like all like
misty and milky. Yeah, well very

1235
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:48,119
practically it was because like all of
their other senses were right, So like

1236
01:26:48,319 --> 01:26:51,479
if you can't see the present,
you can definitely see the future. Or

1237
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,800
you're just like very in tune and
it's like, oh my god, he

1238
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:59,479
knew I was here. Yeah,
because he's blind, he like knows how

1239
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:01,479
to like, yeah, you can
tell that you're there, like you're at

1240
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:05,840
the door, he can smell you. Because it's fucking ancient times. He's

1241
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:12,279
like, how do you know I
was here? Yeah? Did you know?

1242
01:27:12,399 --> 01:27:15,199
I was white? No one ever
comes around because I'm blind? Yeah

1243
01:27:15,279 --> 01:27:20,439
yeah when some other stinky humans for
defeating me. Yeah, so I'm I

1244
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:27,560
don't know. Yeah, fucking the
past is stupid, um dumb. Why

1245
01:27:28,239 --> 01:27:30,359
I love doing this your show because
whenever anyone bitches about the present, I'm

1246
01:27:30,399 --> 01:27:34,399
like, let me tell you about
any other time and fifty years ago,

1247
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:40,560
not even long ago. This is
like all the ship now, I always

1248
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:45,880
bring up just fucking wait what it's
like, just wait, just wait,

1249
01:27:46,039 --> 01:27:50,600
or just like let's just say Nixon
if you don't even want to go that

1250
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:58,600
far back of like the craziness of
and then pardoning Gerald Fort you know,

1251
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:00,479
like anything, all the ship with
the all of them just go oh man,

1252
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:02,960
it just happened, just like right
there in fart of your face.

1253
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:10,039
That was insanity, and now we're
like trying to find the little fucking things

1254
01:28:10,079 --> 01:28:12,720
it was, like, dude,
it was straight up in your face scary

1255
01:28:13,359 --> 01:28:17,880
or crazy weird not that long ago. But what's funny is the major moments

1256
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:24,720
that are happening now we kind of
get tired of pretty quick. Yeah,

1257
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,239
but I don't know. I actually
wonder if they were the same way.

1258
01:28:27,399 --> 01:28:30,720
Like I wonder how many people were, like three weeks after Watergate, were

1259
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:34,640
like whatever watergated out? Yeah,
maybe, and maybe that's how he was

1260
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:40,319
able to, you know, like
be replaced and then be pardoned. Ye

1261
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,720
don't, right, like without people
being like even knowing about it. Like

1262
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:47,840
I'm so sick of hearing about JFK's
One thing we say is shit don't change.

1263
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:51,520
And that goes both ways. Like
in a broad sense, it means

1264
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:56,399
that, but I think it's even
more true in a like personal sense,

1265
01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:01,159
which is, I know, attention
spans are probably shorter now, but I

1266
01:29:01,239 --> 01:29:05,520
don't really know how appreciably shorter they
are, because even if you don't,

1267
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:09,720
oh it's the cell phones making me
do it or whatever. Hey, television's

1268
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:13,439
been around and been rotting our brains. Kurt Vonnegut said that television was the

1269
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:18,359
lead in America's Rome, Roman Wine
or whatever. You know. Television turned

1270
01:29:18,359 --> 01:29:21,720
off at like eleven o'clock everywhere.
But my point is that it's just like

1271
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:26,720
the National where I got out,
there were there were op eds written in

1272
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:30,479
the twenties that the dime store novel
was making kids stupid, and that's fucking

1273
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:35,680
up their attention to jazz. So
nothing that's happening now I feel like,

1274
01:29:36,159 --> 01:29:42,720
is weird or out of the ordinary, Like, yeah, really, it's

1275
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,800
not that people don't change, or
that our minds might not be a little

1276
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,000
different, But I tend to err
on the side of and I've learned this

1277
01:29:47,079 --> 01:29:53,399
more the older I've gotten, um
depressingly so, is that I'm not very

1278
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:59,880
different. No, And the thoughts
I have are probably like ninety eight percent

1279
01:30:00,159 --> 01:30:05,319
pretty common, right right, like
your weird anxieties and or your creative thoughts

1280
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:11,560
whatever, largely in line with how
most other people think, which leads me

1281
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:14,800
to believe I can I feel like
I can safely extrapolate that out. I

1282
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:18,399
mean, case in point, there's
psychology books that break people down, every

1283
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:27,399
single person, yeah, into a
certain category of I mean there's weird anomalies

1284
01:30:27,399 --> 01:30:30,600
a little bit, but even those
are very textbooks, right, So in

1285
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:38,720
that alone, you could be like, there's always I'm not fucking special ones

1286
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:44,319
different now, delco you, I
will say, again, I don't know

1287
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:46,399
what shit you have. I mean, I could look in the book and

1288
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:50,039
we could like put a couple of
different things together. But you're not wrong.

1289
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:57,079
You're special. Thank you. Sure, tell me I'm more special.

1290
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:02,640
Look tell you what I'm special than
Rob? Then Rob? Well, no,

1291
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:09,560
just by nature of of your life, Yes, thank you. You

1292
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:15,520
mean we are very uh, I
mean text book in what we're trying to

1293
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:19,199
do right societally in life and all
of that, as boring as that is.

1294
01:31:19,279 --> 01:31:24,079
Although I guess nowadays we're the we're
the minority, we're the homeowners exactly.

1295
01:31:24,239 --> 01:31:28,479
Yeah, mister Renter over here,
So maybe we're fucking special. Yeah,

1296
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:31,359
maybe needs to tell me special.
I don't know. Home it's kind

1297
01:31:31,359 --> 01:31:39,600
of overrated if you ask me.
It seems like a bad time. I

1298
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:44,479
do get angrier now when my dogs
say choose siding, sure, like choose

1299
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,640
a base board as opposed to in
my apartment, we get angry at like

1300
01:31:48,359 --> 01:31:56,319
dorkier stuff. It's real stupid.
Um Oh fuck was I I forgot what

1301
01:31:56,319 --> 01:32:00,560
I was gonna say. But regardless, So the legalities they bring these two

1302
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:06,399
rotting glassbone women in for questioning U
and they asked, uh, these people,

1303
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:11,920
they say you're in league with the
devil, that you're a witch,

1304
01:32:12,399 --> 01:32:14,720
that you're in league with the devil. They just say it. They're like,

1305
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,319
yeah, we heard you're in league
with the devil? What say you,

1306
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:23,159
old ladies? You know, like
that sentence doesn't make sense. Uh

1307
01:32:23,319 --> 01:32:27,600
well, Elizabeth Demdike's I guess talked
first whatever, I don't know. This

1308
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:31,560
few old woman who was, you
know, facing a horrible fate and whose

1309
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:36,640
family, children and grandchildren were potentially
in mortal danger responded to the question.

1310
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:40,039
She was like, oh, yeah, I sold my soul to the devil

1311
01:32:40,079 --> 01:32:45,119
twenty years ago, oh one of
the blind old Yeah. Yeah, ladies,

1312
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,680
God stop being fu. She just
had a crazy sense of humor.

1313
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:55,199
That's yeah, that's grand right.
They couldn't possibly do anything about it,

1314
01:32:55,399 --> 01:33:03,600
Oh me, yeah, exactly.
Oh people right, by the way,

1315
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:10,600
they're just it just vowels in consonance, arranged adorably. Yeah, because like

1316
01:33:11,039 --> 01:33:17,399
the kids couldn't say grandma. She
called me Gigu. Yeah, say,

1317
01:33:17,399 --> 01:33:24,000
and she sold her soul to the
devil. Um, okay, yeah,

1318
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:30,159
Gigu almost sounds racist. Yeah,
I'd watch it with gig whatever. We're

1319
01:33:30,159 --> 01:33:34,479
gonna clip it, Gigo number two. And will the Chatticks matriarch on the

1320
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:40,279
other hand, Uh yeah, on
the other like, yeap, so that's

1321
01:33:40,279 --> 01:33:43,399
what the damndike said, and then
an whittle Chattis matriarch. On the other

1322
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:48,439
hand, she was like, yeah, me too. Did they just wanted

1323
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:51,319
to I don't understand, but like, I don't understand if they're like,

1324
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:57,600
yeah, they're like, fucking kill
me now. The country is completely fucked.

1325
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,119
I'm blind, I'm old. Just
kill me, dude, just end

1326
01:34:00,199 --> 01:34:02,960
me, devil what I mean,
what do you want me to say?

1327
01:34:03,359 --> 01:34:05,399
Or she was like, yeah,
I sold it to the devil because you

1328
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:09,199
know, he said, you'll never
lack for anything and you'll be able to

1329
01:34:09,199 --> 01:34:12,319
get revenge whenever you want. And
I don't know, but I like to

1330
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:16,239
think that the judge was like,
you'll never lack for anything. You know,

1331
01:34:16,359 --> 01:34:20,439
your poor shit, right, you
poor shit. You can't see right

1332
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:26,279
you are? You have peen yourself
this entire conversation. You have peed the

1333
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:32,000
entire drilling that you sold your soul
for, right, I think you're in

1334
01:34:32,039 --> 01:34:34,880
hell already. Yeah, I would
hate. I would hate to see the

1335
01:34:35,039 --> 01:34:40,199
life that you had before selling,
right, what he pulled you up from?

1336
01:34:40,319 --> 01:34:44,760
Yeah? Yeah, my god,
good for you if he really pulled

1337
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:50,279
you out of something worse than this. What like she's just getting like fucked

1338
01:34:50,319 --> 01:34:55,079
by dogs in a gutter and the
Devil's like, I can give you an

1339
01:34:55,239 --> 01:34:59,239
infinitely better life. Guess what,
Yeah, an exponentially better life. But

1340
01:34:59,279 --> 01:35:02,520
here's the actually, yeah, it
depends on what's being multiplied object. It's

1341
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:08,840
not being fed by ball, right, yeah, old ball, all the

1342
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:15,520
dogs, all the flaming eye dog. So the magistrate decide, decreed that

1343
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:20,039
Alls and Device and Wittle, Elizabeth
Demdike and Whittle's daughter and Redfern Uh,

1344
01:35:20,159 --> 01:35:25,199
they were going to be tried for
malificium uh, causing harm by witchcraft.

1345
01:35:26,239 --> 01:35:31,760
The cell phones we're not done though. The cell phones would continue what self

1346
01:35:32,039 --> 01:35:38,680
owns Oh, sell phones. So
I thought you're saying cell but I didn't

1347
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:43,000
want to That is witchcraft then,
yeah, cell phones at that time five

1348
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:45,720
By the way, at that time, I would have sold my soul for

1349
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:51,479
a cell phone other than take pictures. There's no tower, I can't call

1350
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:55,439
anybody else, right I was.
I was under the impression you would have

1351
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:59,640
like full internet service and everything too. So you're just like through some dimension,

1352
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:02,880
get five G from modern look up
everything, and then you just become

1353
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,760
God. We would have a negotiation
with the devil. Right, So what

1354
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:11,079
does this fucking thing do? I
guess, yeah, fully working iPhone with

1355
01:36:11,199 --> 01:36:15,119
internet and sell access and I can
call people from the future in a way

1356
01:36:15,159 --> 01:36:17,439
to charge it or a way to
charge it or check it out. What

1357
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:19,640
if you only have the cell phone
for one hundred percent pattery, but like

1358
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:26,479
it's gone after what then you gotta
pick and choose where your spots. Oh

1359
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:30,640
Jesus, I guess what? You
turn off? Turn on? Turn off?

1360
01:36:30,399 --> 01:36:32,720
Doesn't turning it on take up a
lot of battery though, Yeah,

1361
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,600
it's like starting your car. That's
that's a devil trick, right, Like

1362
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:39,279
He's like, I'll give you one
hundred percent battery, you can turn it

1363
01:36:39,359 --> 01:36:42,520
on, and then you're a dumb
dumb and you don't know that you're fucking

1364
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:44,720
up a lout of the battery by
turning it on and off so much.

1365
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:46,159
You only need to use it like
five fucking times and then you're a mud

1366
01:36:46,239 --> 01:36:50,279
person like everybody else gets The key
is you just got to do everything up

1367
01:36:50,319 --> 01:36:54,800
front and then just write it down. Yes, you got to spend like

1368
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:59,479
five fucking days on power saver.
Yes, it sounds like a nightmare.

1369
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:02,279
Actually power saver airplane mode. Never
mind devil, I'm good. I don't

1370
01:37:02,279 --> 01:37:05,000
want it, Which is why all
these people that are like cheering for the

1371
01:37:05,079 --> 01:37:09,199
end of the world right now.
Uh, if that happens and every like

1372
01:37:09,319 --> 01:37:13,079
say, we get we're off the
grid completely, no one's gonna be able

1373
01:37:13,119 --> 01:37:15,479
to do anything. Oh, I
look up how to do everything on my

1374
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:20,600
phone. I'm useless, by the
way, anything, I mean, power

1375
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:26,600
goes out, fucking useless. Done. So look, people forgot the freeze

1376
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:30,239
real fast. So, actually,
did you see were you in downtown Drip

1377
01:37:30,359 --> 01:37:32,720
it all to day? There are
a couple of people with Texit signs.

1378
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:39,800
Really, there's a couple of literal
I guess literal secessionists on the street or

1379
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:45,720
is that a thing? Yeah,
we're technically we aren't. We're a republic,

1380
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:50,319
right what Texas, Texas? That's
yeah, yeah, there are several

1381
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:58,319
secessionists protesting in downtown Drip today.
It was like three of them. Yeah,

1382
01:37:58,359 --> 01:38:01,399
and just no, it wasn't.
It was some old white guy,

1383
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:10,079
uh, some like like probably forties
fifties Mexican guy and then some middle aged

1384
01:38:10,279 --> 01:38:13,520
white woman. Why do we need
to do that? I don't know.

1385
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:17,079
According but oh you didn't stop and
chat. He didn't get it, just

1386
01:38:17,359 --> 01:38:21,800
kept going, kept going to the
CBS for by socks, carry out some

1387
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:27,439
nice sucks. But yeah, if
all that goes out, I give myself

1388
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:33,359
maybe a week, like I even
people are like, oh, ugg find

1389
01:38:34,079 --> 01:38:42,039
find your food. There is there
is not a single person alive with children

1390
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:45,399
that is like hell yeah. And
if you do think that with children,

1391
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:49,560
you're a fucking psycho, you're a
fucking psycho. Um. Have you guys

1392
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:57,359
seen the anarchists on HBO yet?
Try it? Yeah, it's exactly what

1393
01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:01,439
you're kind of saying. Oh,
people that like, uh want to have

1394
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:08,199
like a full anarchist society and then
they end up doing these weird conferences in

1395
01:39:09,319 --> 01:39:13,520
is it Puerto Rico or something?
Okay? And is it a doc or

1396
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:15,119
a show? Yeah, it sounds
like a documentary in Puerto Rico right now.

1397
01:39:15,239 --> 01:39:18,520
It's a doc series. Okay,
So there's like four but basically there's

1398
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:24,600
one family that has kids and by
the way, no, they would never

1399
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:28,640
but they think they do right.
Right, But since they're running the conference,

1400
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:30,960
they're making a fucking bunch of money
and they're basically just capitalists. It's

1401
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:39,159
awesome. Yeah. So there's a
great saying after Carhart got very in vogue

1402
01:39:39,199 --> 01:39:45,159
and popular. Sure is uh And
I think I think it pretends pretty well

1403
01:39:45,279 --> 01:39:51,520
to the whole let society collapse thing
blah blah blah, which is everybody wants

1404
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:58,800
to wear Carhart until they have to
do Carhart. Yeah, and I think

1405
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:03,319
that's yeah, that's the answer.
Nie, that's that's that's kind of spin

1406
01:40:03,359 --> 01:40:06,319
off the Ronnie Coleman. Everybody want
to be a bodybuilder, but I don't.

1407
01:40:06,359 --> 01:40:09,720
Nobody want to lift these heavy ass
weights, right And look, I'm

1408
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:12,600
gonna I'm the first person here.
I will tell you right now. I

1409
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:15,880
am a soft hands. Okay,
I have a lot of chalysies. I

1410
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:21,880
like society as it, Yes it
is, I like it. I do

1411
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:26,920
well on it. Better navigate by
the way. I mean, those hand

1412
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:30,199
can you put them up when we're
time? Those are soft? Yeah,

1413
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:33,279
velvet, They really do look like
they don't even have a wrinkle on them.

1414
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:41,079
No, it's almost like working filtered
hands, soft hands that I say

1415
01:40:41,119 --> 01:40:44,640
good for you, that means you
thank you. We're two gloves with fastline

1416
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:48,319
to sleep everything and made money and
hired people to do stuff exactly good.

1417
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:55,000
I'll mow the lawn and be like
whoo right even for this podcasting the window

1418
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:58,319
who does the work? Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, I'm the soft hands

1419
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:02,279
right it me. It's true.
It's like you got this production boy.

1420
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:08,640
Yeah. He calls me a production
boy as you because he's talent. He's

1421
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:12,079
on air. Yeah, I'm on
talent. Yeah. Even like researching,

1422
01:41:12,119 --> 01:41:15,199
he's like, and for what it's
worth, I prefer audio slave. Oh

1423
01:41:15,319 --> 01:41:18,359
I like that. Yeah. I
like that's a band, right yeah,

1424
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:24,039
it's like wait it is a band, right, yeah. I don't listen

1425
01:41:24,079 --> 01:41:30,600
to him. Delco probably knows what. It's probably like every nineties band,

1426
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:35,640
right yeah yeah yeah. They were
mentioned in like Empire Records or something blaa

1427
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:42,000
who cares um? So the dem
Dyke family decided to have a meeting at

1428
01:41:42,039 --> 01:41:46,439
their home, uh, the bizarrely
and troublingly named Maulkin Tower. Like,

1429
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:49,159
I don't know how you don't be
suspected of being a witch when you live

1430
01:41:49,199 --> 01:41:53,800
in a tower, uh, with
friends who just want to talk about what

1431
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:55,800
was happening. They were like supporters, like, oh my god, are

1432
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:59,840
you guys okay? Blah blah blah. And James Device, who you know,

1433
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:01,840
told the judge his sister bewitched the
child was like, well, we

1434
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:04,560
got to feed the party, so
I guess I'll steal a sheep from our

1435
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:11,079
neighbors. It was basically just a
gathering to more and whatever. Naturally,

1436
01:42:11,119 --> 01:42:13,479
the judge found out and was like, oh, you guys are witches too.

1437
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:15,600
That had to be a witch meeting. Yeah. Oh, the rest

1438
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:18,840
of the witch family met with their
friends in a tower. Yeah. What

1439
01:42:19,239 --> 01:42:23,119
what am I supposed to think you're
doing? Right now? Steal a sheep?

1440
01:42:23,199 --> 01:42:25,199
Is that as bad as steal on
as a horse. It's not great

1441
01:42:26,239 --> 01:42:30,760
because it because it's not as bad, but it's not great because they make

1442
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:33,319
ship forever with the sheep? Right? I think they were pretty well they

1443
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:39,359
killed and cooked it the sheep.
Yeah, dumb, okay, go ahead?

1444
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:42,039
Y is what is I guess,
I don't know, like sacrificial or

1445
01:42:42,199 --> 01:42:44,319
just that's what people No, no, no, they eat they ate it.

1446
01:42:44,399 --> 01:42:45,439
Oh okay, yeah, that was
like what they did. Yeah,

1447
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:50,079
so Elizabeth Device, James Device,
Alice Nutter, Katherine Hewett, John Bullock,

1448
01:42:50,199 --> 01:42:55,359
Jane Bullock, Alice Gray, and
Jeanette Preston. Uh, we're all

1449
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:59,479
also put on trial for witchcraft.
Preston was tried first because she was actually

1450
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,279
from a different county, so she
got tried in York. I think this

1451
01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:05,560
was actually not her first witchcraft trial. She was accused of murdering a child

1452
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:10,119
with magic the year before, but
they couldn't pin it on her. Somehow

1453
01:43:10,159 --> 01:43:12,560
they got her on this one though. She was accused of murdering a local

1454
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:17,359
landowner with magic. She pleaded not
guilty, but someone was like, no,

1455
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:19,720
no. I took her to see
the guy's body after he died,

1456
01:43:20,159 --> 01:43:29,880
and she touched it and it started
bleeding again. So yeah, and I

1457
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:32,800
mean she's already got a record.
Yeah, she got a record. And

1458
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:38,439
then James Device, who is maybe
the second shittiest part the Device family in

1459
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:43,239
general, is just absolute dogshit in
this story, James right, James Device

1460
01:43:43,359 --> 01:43:48,239
testified to the prosecutor that she did
it, so she was hung. Jeanette

1461
01:43:48,239 --> 01:43:53,760
Preston was hung July twenty ninth.
It really do be your own sixteen twelve.

1462
01:43:54,039 --> 01:43:56,880
Yeah, the others were tried in
August of that year, and the

1463
01:43:57,079 --> 01:44:02,880
key witness in the trial against them
was a little girl. Not a gel

1464
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:06,479
oh, just a little girl.
A nine year old girl. Nine year

1465
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:16,640
old, also of the Device family, Jeanette Device device gods worst name than

1466
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:24,439
Janet Device right now, it's not
great. A witness that young normally would

1467
01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:29,159
not be allowed in trials at the
time. Stuff, yes, seem King

1468
01:44:29,279 --> 01:44:31,800
James wrote in his book Demonology that
you got to make exceptions for witches.

1469
01:44:36,279 --> 01:44:44,399
Oh good. Yeah. So first
on trial was the Chattock's matriarch and wittle.

1470
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:48,279
She was accused of the murder of
Robert Nutter. She technically pleaded not

1471
01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:56,800
guilty, but awkwardly for her um, she had actually confessed to his murder

1472
01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:03,119
to the prosecutor or magistrate early during
a deposition. And deposition in this instance

1473
01:45:03,359 --> 01:45:09,319
means a torture, right right,
So the rites were read nothing like that.

1474
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:14,680
It really is just just rip your
fingernails off whatever. Yeah here,

1475
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:18,239
yeah, yeah, torture the fuck
out of you. Um. But here's

1476
01:45:18,239 --> 01:45:21,479
the thing, and here's why I
think she was guilty even though the confession

1477
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:27,760
was taken under torture, like you
know, or why she deserved it.

1478
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:30,279
Like, if you're a witch,
just do magic and don't feel the torture.

1479
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:34,840
Yeah, and if you aren't,
then you aren't right here, right,

1480
01:45:35,159 --> 01:45:39,520
Yeah. So you think she's guilty
because she because she didn't took it,

1481
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:43,960
Well, she I don't know.
She's a witch. Look, she's

1482
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:45,479
a witch. Let's just be honest
with ourselves. She's probably a wit.

1483
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:48,039
Sounds like it. Yeah, I
think if we're all being honest, like

1484
01:45:48,199 --> 01:45:53,520
every person in this story, it's
probably a witch you know who didn't Probably

1485
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:56,960
a witch you know who didn't confess
to being a witch. The guy who

1486
01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:00,000
got crushed by Rocks. Yeah,
so either way, not a witch,

1487
01:46:00,279 --> 01:46:02,840
you know what I mean, Like
they proved it. Also, dude,

1488
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:06,760
we all know dudes can't be witches. That's true. They don't fall into

1489
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:12,960
that fucking tell on each other,
snitch on each other, take each other

1490
01:46:13,079 --> 01:46:16,399
down bullshit. Well except James Device, who is a huge piece of ship.

1491
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:18,960
I hear that fucking last name one
more time. Oh it's coming up

1492
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:23,560
again, no worrying. There was
also this witness, James Robinson, who

1493
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:28,199
lived in the Chattock's house twenty years
earlier, and he got tug up somewhere

1494
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:32,520
and came out and got on the
stand and was like one time and Wintle

1495
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:42,159
turned my beer sour, And now
we know case closed sour beer. It's

1496
01:46:42,159 --> 01:46:48,319
a fun thing. We all like
it. Husband. You guys are like

1497
01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:54,439
it's just like a New Earth thing
because it's just something different. I think

1498
01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:58,000
it's because like, because can we
be honest, we're in the drip,

1499
01:46:58,079 --> 01:47:00,760
Like none of these breweries are good. Yeah, Jester King fucking real,

1500
01:47:01,279 --> 01:47:05,840
I've never King are good. Look
there's a sour that you can kind of

1501
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:11,079
handle everywhere. And that's how it
happened. Yeah. See, I thought

1502
01:47:11,079 --> 01:47:15,199
you're gonna we're gonna rally the trips
with like pitchforks and go after Jester King

1503
01:47:15,279 --> 01:47:18,960
for their sours, for witchcraft,
for their sours. I would say they're

1504
01:47:19,159 --> 01:47:21,880
the sours are the only thing that
I can fucking hear. That's all they

1505
01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:26,039
do. Really, Yeah, no, no, they do others. They're

1506
01:47:26,079 --> 01:47:29,560
like no, like everyone does.
Look ipa whatever I'm saying. If I

1507
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:32,800
go to any other I'm not gonna
name names, but you guys know them

1508
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:38,359
like any other brewery out here.
Yeah, the other one that you us

1509
01:47:39,039 --> 01:47:42,920
whatever, We're not a good beer
town, despite what we think I totally

1510
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:46,039
just I totally disagree. I think
five one two is a great brewery.

1511
01:47:46,119 --> 01:47:50,960
I like Pinehouses beers five one two. It's in like Center, Austin,

1512
01:47:51,239 --> 01:47:57,199
Okay. So Drip is like I
agree, Drips, it's uh the way

1513
01:47:57,279 --> 01:48:00,720
that they advertise it is like this
is where all the good breweries and distilleries

1514
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:06,279
people decided to move here. Sorry, I will be like, oh shit,

1515
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:11,960
I do agree. I like the
distill game and drip. Treaty Oak

1516
01:48:12,119 --> 01:48:16,039
is my favorite bourbon from Texas,
my favorite place. I love Treaty Oak

1517
01:48:16,119 --> 01:48:23,439
Girl and honestly, uh Deep Eddie
very underrated vodka, but like how much

1518
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:29,000
can you really fuck up vodka?
So I wish there was and maybe there

1519
01:48:29,079 --> 01:48:31,239
is. I don't know because I'm
live there along Like a good tequila situation

1520
01:48:31,319 --> 01:48:33,840
out there, because I like to
heal that you don't think there's one,

1521
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:40,039
but I think it's a mescal.
What's the I know, Desert door.

1522
01:48:40,239 --> 01:48:42,760
But anyway, if I want meska, if I don't want to drink mescal,

1523
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:45,720
I'd rather smoke a scar. I
don't think we should be getting tequila

1524
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:49,279
from here. I mean, I
think I think good tequila comes for where

1525
01:48:49,319 --> 01:48:53,119
it's fucking supposed to come from yeah, and we can just leave it at

1526
01:48:53,159 --> 01:48:56,439
that. There's a couple of rum
distilleries, but I don't really like rum.

1527
01:48:56,880 --> 01:49:03,600
No, no. And the wine's
are fine for Texas wine for Texas.

1528
01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:06,560
Fine. Yeah. Rum is what
you drink on a cruise, like

1529
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:10,520
I don't need to, yeah,
and I don't need like a bespoke like

1530
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:15,720
artisanal ru Yeah. Who's having like
dai? Yeah, yeah, you're gonna

1531
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:17,119
put it in your penia kolada.
Like No. The funny thing is when

1532
01:49:17,119 --> 01:49:20,720
you go to like Hawaii. It's
funny because like if you're if you live

1533
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:23,920
in Texas and you like, all
of a sudden, you're around palm trees

1534
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:25,960
in the beach, You're like,
oh, margarita time, exactly. The

1535
01:49:26,079 --> 01:49:29,039
margaritas are kind of dog shit out
there exactly. So it's like all my

1536
01:49:29,239 --> 01:49:31,079
ties and shit and I'm like fuck
like all like one or two and it's

1537
01:49:31,079 --> 01:49:33,600
like, dude, I cannot drink
rum all day or I'm gonna fucking vomit

1538
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:38,520
exactly, and I'm almost forty and
I just can't do that. You're not

1539
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:43,079
almost forty. He is almost,
he's not. Don't let these motherfuckers tell

1540
01:49:43,119 --> 01:49:46,039
you that you're almost forty times thirty
six. Baby, dude, that's four

1541
01:49:46,239 --> 01:49:51,000
fucking years away. Oh my god, I'm good. You're hanging out with

1542
01:49:51,079 --> 01:49:55,880
these young bucks too much. They're
like a geezer. Like, I'm fucking

1543
01:49:56,039 --> 01:50:01,079
not I get hot. Take neither
of them or bucks. Oh okay,

1544
01:50:01,199 --> 01:50:05,880
we better, we better carry on. I'm about to throw hands right now.

1545
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:10,359
Yeah, yea. My whole goal
is to get you guys some fucking

1546
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:14,239
fight when I come up the show, and I usually get it. So

1547
01:50:14,399 --> 01:50:17,359
eventually, Anne Wintall realized she was
screwed and just begged the court tab mercy

1548
01:50:17,399 --> 01:50:23,239
on her daughter and Red Fern.
Uh. Next up was Elizabeth Device,

1549
01:50:23,319 --> 01:50:26,560
who was charged with a bunch of
random murders. Uh. The man who

1550
01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:30,319
wrote the whole book about this,
which we talk about last time, this

1551
01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:34,960
an the Samlisburys Whitch Trials, wrote
that the odious Witch had a facial deformity

1552
01:50:35,319 --> 01:50:39,720
that made one eye lower than the
other other. So she was ugly.

1553
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:43,520
So she was a witch that checks
out. I mean it checks out.

1554
01:50:44,119 --> 01:50:49,439
Start hanging every other Elizabeth Device was? This was Elizabeth Device. No,

1555
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:55,640
she was like forties, fifties something
like that, like middle age, um,

1556
01:50:56,239 --> 01:50:59,840
maybe late thirties, who knows for
that era ugly for that time,

1557
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:02,960
right, which is not great,
which is like twenty x. Now here's

1558
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:08,600
my thing. Obviously, being ugly
makes you a witch unquestionably one percent,

1559
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:11,439
and I believe that to this day. Yeah, for sure. But here's

1560
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:15,199
my question. Does being too hot
make you a witch in that day?

1561
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:20,520
Interesting? But I think I'm gonna
say I'm gonna say no because I think

1562
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:25,680
I mean, I could say it
at the end, but you know,

1563
01:51:27,159 --> 01:51:31,800
yeah, um, from the beginning
of time too. Now, Okay,

1564
01:51:32,079 --> 01:51:36,800
hotness really gets you out of a
lot of trouble, a lot of fit,

1565
01:51:38,239 --> 01:51:44,319
and you probably aren't accused of things
that you shouldn't be because there's always

1566
01:51:44,359 --> 01:51:45,560
going to be a guy that when
they fucking get you out of it.

1567
01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:51,800
If you're an option for men,
I want to keep you around. Yeah,

1568
01:51:53,079 --> 01:51:57,279
So that's pretty much the answer to
that, although they would be accused

1569
01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:01,680
more so by the other there when
women women, yep, but in the

1570
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:08,439
end would never go There's always going
to be some guy that's going to keep

1571
01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:13,600
them from me because women hating.
Where guys cheat down, women always hate

1572
01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:16,239
up. Yes for sure, Yes, that's fair, because yeah, and

1573
01:52:16,279 --> 01:52:21,880
that's funny though, because a woman's
biggest threat is not the hotter woman,

1574
01:52:23,039 --> 01:52:26,600
the woman that his wife or her
husband thinks is like super hot. You're

1575
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:30,000
not in the same league. It's
what it is is is to like say

1576
01:52:30,039 --> 01:52:34,800
you're an eight. It's like the
six that's very flirty with your husband.

1577
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:42,680
Yeah, confident always, that's in
the issue. Yeah, and even if

1578
01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:45,119
it's not an issue, it's like
you, bitch, I'm taking you down.

1579
01:52:45,359 --> 01:52:47,199
Yeah, it's not the nine and
a half. It's not the nine

1580
01:52:47,239 --> 01:52:50,439
point five that your husband's like,
man Jesus, Yeah, because by the

1581
01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:54,960
way, you're never getting her,
so yeah, exactly all you want.

1582
01:52:55,439 --> 01:53:00,119
He has all these crippling like uh, she has she doesn't think of herself

1583
01:53:00,119 --> 01:53:05,039
as a nine point five. Very
true. Anyone that's that attractive usually has

1584
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:10,760
these issues where they have self esteem, like just it's just completely cripple.

1585
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:15,640
Very true. Very six. Though, let's get all the attention that feels

1586
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:24,359
herself. Yeah, all the time. So the key witnesses against Elizabeth Device

1587
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:28,359
figured, but go ahead. The
key witness. The key witness against Elizabeth

1588
01:53:28,399 --> 01:53:34,880
Device was again Jeanette Device, who
happened to be her daughter. Daughter was

1589
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:39,600
the key witness then against her mom. Okay, perfect, and you will

1590
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:48,720
probably relate to this tale as old
as time. Rip Angel lenswory shoulders.

1591
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:55,199
Yeah, is she the teapot?
Yeah? Is y m hm, that's

1592
01:53:55,199 --> 01:54:00,399
our our our running bit just died, teish so she can't come after us,

1593
01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:03,600
Actually, yeah, Dizzy can.
Oh, we'll just keep it going.

1594
01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:08,439
Then. So, when Device's daughter
took the stand to testify against her,

1595
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:13,279
Elizabeth was essentially like, you dumb
little bitch, you're fucking making shit

1596
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:18,600
up. You're gonna get me fucking
killed. Sounds that sounds completely It's the

1597
01:54:18,840 --> 01:54:23,720
most same thing that's happened this entire
fucking episode, right, and then what

1598
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:28,680
happened that rebellious night girl was like, yeah, all right, Elizabeth.

1599
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:31,960
Elizabeth was removed removed from the court. Elizae was removed from the court so

1600
01:54:32,039 --> 01:54:36,239
that Jeanette, her daughter, could
keep testifying. Answer her. Get this

1601
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:41,760
bitch defending herself out of here,
right, They were't gonna fall for that

1602
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:45,680
cross examination, No, no,
no, we've heard about that across town

1603
01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:51,279
and staying they're fucking innocent. Get
her out. So Jeanette then testified her

1604
01:54:51,319 --> 01:54:55,279
mom and been a witch for three
or four years since since she had been

1605
01:54:55,560 --> 01:55:00,600
five or six she had observed or
six or seven episode five or six.

1606
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:01,800
Yeah, she's like, oh yeah, and a six year old is of

1607
01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:06,920
course the time we were believing that
you can become a witch. You we're

1608
01:55:08,079 --> 01:55:10,880
not you kind of turn yourself over
to the devil and become a witch.

1609
01:55:11,039 --> 01:55:15,359
Oh okay, you're not born a
which you choose the witch life. Also,

1610
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:19,439
Jeanette testified that her mom had the
same familiar named ball, a brown

1611
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:24,319
dog like the one who stroked out
John Law. She said she heard her

1612
01:55:24,359 --> 01:55:30,479
mom planning murders with the dog.
And then James, device Elizabeth's son and

1613
01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:36,279
fellow accused witch, also testified against
his mom. Apparently he was trying to

1614
01:55:36,359 --> 01:55:45,039
turn state's witness, but that didn't
work because James also had a torture confession

1615
01:55:45,399 --> 01:55:49,239
and his sister Jeanette also testified against
him too. So James and his mom,

1616
01:55:49,279 --> 01:55:57,239
Elizabeth were sentenced to death and Redfern's
trial with the next day. What

1617
01:55:57,640 --> 01:56:00,399
because of the girl? Yeah,
because the nine year old. I was

1618
01:56:00,439 --> 01:56:05,000
like, yeah, my mom has
been a witch for like three or four

1619
01:56:05,119 --> 01:56:11,079
years. Complicated relationships. Yeah,
ab my lucky you're having to who is

1620
01:56:11,119 --> 01:56:16,279
there talk to? A talk?
And the talk was mean and guilty.

1621
01:56:16,399 --> 01:56:21,439
God, we got her h triggered. Yeah, it seems like you gotta

1622
01:56:21,479 --> 01:56:25,479
take care of that right now,
Jesse with your daughter. Look, I'm

1623
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:30,520
trying to I think it's impossible.
I mean, I think a lot of

1624
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:34,560
this was like family stuff and daughters
and whatever, accusing do you know what

1625
01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:39,279
I mean? Like, how much
of it do you think? And I

1626
01:56:39,399 --> 01:56:42,439
don't mean this to like even like
talking to young women or whatever. I

1627
01:56:42,439 --> 01:56:45,279
don't mean the spiritual women. I
mean this because I know children, Yeah,

1628
01:56:45,319 --> 01:56:46,800
only I can talk to them.
Yeah. Right, How much of

1629
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:54,920
this do you think was the child
enjoying the attention from specifically much fancier,

1630
01:56:55,039 --> 01:56:59,560
higher class people. I think a
lot of that, and then it was

1631
01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:03,920
all so just a weird relationship.
Yeah. Also maybe mom and daughter.

1632
01:57:04,159 --> 01:57:11,279
I don't I someone that. But
then like if someone else, and people

1633
01:57:11,399 --> 01:57:14,560
do this all even to this day, like come in and be like,

1634
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:18,680
oh it was your well, let's
say therapy, let's go modern times therapy.

1635
01:57:19,439 --> 01:57:25,439
What's up would your mom do?
Well? She was super busy,

1636
01:57:25,720 --> 01:57:28,560
Like I can just picture my daughter. She was super busy all the time,

1637
01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:31,880
like work all the time, and
like you can always find something,

1638
01:57:31,960 --> 01:57:35,479
if someone if someone tells you,
Hey, you have a problem. This

1639
01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:40,920
is the problem. You reverse engineer
it back to what that is. You

1640
01:57:41,039 --> 01:57:45,439
can always find it to. My
mom was always so busy, so busy

1641
01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:50,560
cooking sponsibility. She was so busy
cooking for I won't but I can't.

1642
01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:56,399
I can't, can't she's going to
do. Yeah, I can't control what

1643
01:57:56,560 --> 01:57:59,680
her and her therapists are going to
cook up about what the fuck I did

1644
01:58:00,199 --> 01:58:03,039
staying out late with you guys,
fucking drinking one. It's like, who

1645
01:58:03,119 --> 01:58:08,159
fucking cares? You're a baby,
Like you can't even talk. Clip this.

1646
01:58:08,479 --> 01:58:14,079
You can play it in therapy,
Play it in therapy, I love

1647
01:58:14,199 --> 01:58:16,800
you or whatever. You don't even
know how to speak English. You're not

1648
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:20,680
even a person right now, really, you know, you're just there.

1649
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:26,199
How old is she? Four and
a half months? Oh, she's getting

1650
01:58:26,239 --> 01:58:28,560
to be a kind of a person, actually kind of a person. But

1651
01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:31,600
as you know, Bob, yeah
they're not gonna remember but there all the

1652
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:34,680
time, but all of that.
At some point, I think it's around

1653
01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:39,119
four or five months the lights really
come on. Yes, where it's like

1654
01:58:39,239 --> 01:58:41,760
and I have all those apps that
are like now, I think it's pretty

1655
01:58:41,800 --> 01:58:45,319
pointless to take like when I see
a baby, I like Disney World.

1656
01:58:45,079 --> 01:58:47,439
I was totally pointless. Oh for
sure. I think it's just that,

1657
01:58:47,560 --> 01:58:50,840
like they didn't want to leave them
home. But if they ever take just

1658
01:58:51,279 --> 01:58:58,119
a baby or even any kid under
five, seven, I'm gonna say seven,

1659
01:58:59,199 --> 01:59:00,520
Um, it's pointless. Yeah.
Yeah, they're not gonna remember.

1660
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:03,520
They're not going to remember. It's
just for you. You're a Disney adult.

1661
01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:08,279
We threw our child one one year
old birthday party on't for him.

1662
01:59:08,399 --> 01:59:12,439
It wasn't no. I always made
those parties and to this day, just

1663
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:16,520
beer and things. And much like
your child, I forgot about it didn't

1664
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:20,199
show up, did you. I
didn't go. You were invited and you

1665
01:59:20,279 --> 01:59:27,560
didn't go. I forgot. He
says that, like that's normal. Yeah,

1666
01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:30,000
like that's normal. I knew he
wasn't. I knew, although to

1667
01:59:30,119 --> 01:59:32,279
the point where I was like,
you kind of knew, Yeah, I

1668
01:59:32,359 --> 01:59:36,239
knew. I knew, and he
knew you knew yeah, and he knew

1669
01:59:36,239 --> 01:59:40,840
it would fly. And so he
was just like m and if you don't

1670
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:44,760
know, now you know, now
you know. So. Anne Redfern's trial

1671
01:59:44,880 --> 01:59:47,640
was the next day. She was
accused of murdering Robert Nutter's father, Christopher

1672
01:59:47,720 --> 01:59:53,319
and making clay figures of the Nutter
family like voodoo dolls, basically Bob Nutter,

1673
01:59:53,600 --> 01:59:58,119
yep, Bob Nutter. Witnesses said
she was even more dangerous than her

1674
01:59:58,199 --> 02:00:02,119
mom. The Chaddock's family. Matriarn
Anne Redfern was like, no, I

1675
02:00:02,239 --> 02:00:09,560
deny everything. She was found guilty, Shut up, bitch, Yeah,

1676
02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:13,600
we know what's going on already.
Alice Nutter was tried next. She was

1677
02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:16,399
not poor like the others, actually, which was out of place. Usually

1678
02:00:16,399 --> 02:00:18,560
it was just like, you know, knock off these poor bitches. You

1679
02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:21,800
know, they're weird, they're gross, they're probably witches. She was accused

1680
02:00:21,800 --> 02:00:26,279
of witchy things and murder two,
but had way less of a connection to

1681
02:00:26,359 --> 02:00:30,680
the stuff than anyone else. Jeanette
testified that Alice Nutter was at the Malcolm

1682
02:00:30,680 --> 02:00:34,319
Tower meeting, but the truth is
probably that she had just stopped by on

1683
02:00:34,359 --> 02:00:38,079
her way to something else to check
in and be like, hey guys,

1684
02:00:38,159 --> 02:00:42,520
everything okay. Nutter. Other than
pleading not guilty, he said pretty much

1685
02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:46,239
nothing. Wouldn't testify or anything like
that. This was probably because she was

1686
02:00:46,359 --> 02:00:50,840
still a Catholic okay, and she
had been on her way to Catholic Mass

1687
02:00:50,920 --> 02:00:56,399
that night. That night, which
was illegal because the Church had of England

1688
02:00:56,439 --> 02:01:00,359
had separated, but this area was
still like a lot of cat flicks in

1689
02:01:00,439 --> 02:01:01,720
it, which is why they were
probing for witchcraft. And she like that

1690
02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:08,479
two of her relatives were actually executed
for being Catholic priests years earlier. She

1691
02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:12,840
was between a rock and a shark. So she didn't want to testify against

1692
02:01:12,840 --> 02:01:15,079
her family, didn't want to say
anything. She was a and afraid of

1693
02:01:15,159 --> 02:01:19,000
just implicating fellow Catholics at the math
Mass in general. So she has Captain

1694
02:01:19,079 --> 02:01:24,039
Rause shut she was found guilty.
What, Yeah, well she has a

1695
02:01:24,119 --> 02:01:27,359
Catholic you don't want to risk.
Can't have that in a car bomb somewhere

1696
02:01:28,039 --> 02:01:31,159
real quick. Did any of these
people have lawyers that were defending them?

1697
02:01:31,479 --> 02:01:33,920
So, I don't know how it
was for them, but in the Salem

1698
02:01:33,960 --> 02:01:39,600
witch trials it was actually illegal for
witches to have lawyers. Yeah cool,

1699
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:44,359
you can represent man and yeah yeah, yeah, no, that's really good.

1700
02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:46,479
Yeah, that's really good. Yeah, it's a good loophole. Smart,

1701
02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:50,560
smart the forethought before because otherwise,
you know, I was like making

1702
02:01:50,640 --> 02:01:55,479
that role. It's just you gotta
cut it off so the devil can't infiltrate

1703
02:01:55,520 --> 02:02:00,960
the lawyers. We're just all going
to decide what the fuck captain, and

1704
02:02:01,159 --> 02:02:08,640
that's it. Yep, pretty much. So then days we still had Alison

1705
02:02:08,720 --> 02:02:16,560
device. She had to stand trial. Now since she self admitted. Where

1706
02:02:16,600 --> 02:02:21,640
they lenient? Um, I don't
know. Maybe they hung her more softly,

1707
02:02:23,279 --> 02:02:28,199
Yeah, no, but they hung
I guess harder. Well, she

1708
02:02:28,439 --> 02:02:31,600
was yea the entire time. She
was still convinced she had powers. Again,

1709
02:02:31,680 --> 02:02:34,560
straight up confessed on the stand.
While John law was in the court,

1710
02:02:36,840 --> 02:02:41,359
she was so He's like, please, wasn't you well he acting,

1711
02:02:41,640 --> 02:02:43,960
I don't know of what he thought, Probably probably didn't think it was her,

1712
02:02:44,000 --> 02:02:46,760
to be honest, she was found
guilty. They were all hung.

1713
02:02:47,640 --> 02:02:51,800
Everyone was hung, Happy ending,
Happy ending. Historian John Swayne. I

1714
02:02:51,840 --> 02:02:55,439
copy and paces straight up because I
thought it was just a good blurb.

1715
02:02:55,920 --> 02:02:59,920
Historian John Swayne has said that the
outbreaks of witchcraft in and around the Pendule

1716
02:03:00,800 --> 02:03:04,439
area demonstrate the extent to which people
could make a living living, either by

1717
02:03:04,479 --> 02:03:11,000
posing as a witch or by accusing
or threatening to accuse others of being a

1718
02:03:11,079 --> 02:03:15,479
witch. Like we talked about,
it's really good. Although it is implicit

1719
02:03:15,600 --> 02:03:18,239
in much of the literature on witchcraft
that the accused were victims, often mentally

1720
02:03:18,319 --> 02:03:21,800
or physically abnormal. For some at
least, it may have been a trade

1721
02:03:21,880 --> 02:03:25,600
like any other, albeit one with
significant risk. So it's almost like,

1722
02:03:26,199 --> 02:03:29,000
I don't know, dealing cocaine or
something like that, or just get rid

1723
02:03:29,039 --> 02:03:31,640
of the freaks. Yeah, yeah, basically what they were doing with it.

1724
02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:33,920
It's kind of like I think witches
in a lot of ways were like

1725
02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:39,520
mid level drug dealers in modern time, if you want to put the use

1726
02:03:39,560 --> 02:03:43,319
it. Yeah, So they were
using that as a front to kind of

1727
02:03:44,359 --> 02:03:46,960
get rid of Well, it's just
like you were doing something to make money

1728
02:03:47,000 --> 02:03:49,840
because you were poor, but that
what you were doing make money had more

1729
02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:54,600
inherent risk and might get you killed
the same way dealing meth or coke or

1730
02:03:55,039 --> 02:03:57,800
even weed back in the day.
It's like yeah, yeah, yeah,

1731
02:03:57,800 --> 02:04:00,680
like it's what could get you killed
is your business? Yeah you know.

1732
02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:04,600
So, uh, there may have
been bad blood between the Dem Dyke and

1733
02:04:04,640 --> 02:04:08,680
Chat series because they're in competition with
each other trying to make a living from

1734
02:04:08,720 --> 02:04:12,039
healing whatever. The Dem Dykes are
believed to have lived close Yeah whatever,

1735
02:04:12,039 --> 02:04:15,680
the rest of us pointless, but
essentially, yeah, they when I said

1736
02:04:15,720 --> 02:04:17,800
earlier, that they made a living
by extortion. I think part of that

1737
02:04:17,880 --> 02:04:21,239
extortion was they think we're witches,
so we'll call you a witch. Right

1738
02:04:23,560 --> 02:04:29,640
that it was like something that people
threw around right the same way. Honestly,

1739
02:04:29,720 --> 02:04:31,960
a lot of drug dealers they always
have that backcart in their pocket.

1740
02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:35,520
I know who the other drug dealers
are, and they could always get leniency

1741
02:04:35,600 --> 02:04:39,920
and be like, dude, I'll
tell you all the other Yeah, people

1742
02:04:40,039 --> 02:04:44,720
all turn yep, shut your fucking
mouth, rub right, rat your fucking

1743
02:04:44,760 --> 02:04:48,920
hormouth, snitch, Dan's dealing protein. I don't know, Oh, are

1744
02:04:49,000 --> 02:05:00,239
you dealing back? Are you on
the side? Never know, But that

1745
02:05:00,560 --> 02:05:04,319
is all I've got for this week. They were all killed, all hung,

1746
02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:10,319
all hung after testify, a web
of testifying against each other, just

1747
02:05:10,479 --> 02:05:15,000
a web of testimony. And is
it And you're saying it's similar or like

1748
02:05:16,119 --> 02:05:20,960
the which whatever the century? Where? Which is where something that you could

1749
02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:26,560
actually use to get certain things?
Um, the trials and the accusers and

1750
02:05:26,640 --> 02:05:30,760
the things were all pretty similar.
Yes, you know, besides Salem.

1751
02:05:30,880 --> 02:05:34,239
I don't think this was very similar
to Salem, because in Salem, was

1752
02:05:34,319 --> 02:05:39,279
it, Well, if you're Salem
had something in common with this, which

1753
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:45,359
it involved rival families. M okay, so made a better book, Crucible

1754
02:05:45,840 --> 02:05:48,520
and then a play. Was it
a book first? It's a book first,

1755
02:05:49,960 --> 02:05:55,159
Um, you read it high school. I read the play. Didn't

1756
02:05:55,159 --> 02:06:00,000
read the book. It's an actor? Yeah, no, no, no,

1757
02:06:01,039 --> 02:06:09,159
oh yes, I don't know what
I'm saying. I mean what I'm

1758
02:06:09,159 --> 02:06:14,239
saying is essentially people are fucking nuts
that none of this strikes me as crazy,

1759
02:06:14,520 --> 02:06:15,920
Like it's all crazy, but it's
all so crazy that I'm like,

1760
02:06:16,039 --> 02:06:18,840
yeah, no, you don't,
like somebody throw allegations out, Yeah,

1761
02:06:18,880 --> 02:06:25,680
just slap allegations on them. Also, there's Alison's like weird feeling of guilt

1762
02:06:25,760 --> 02:06:30,199
for nothing that I mean like that, like they have beaten into her that

1763
02:06:30,359 --> 02:06:34,159
like, yeah she didn't she was
gaslet. All of these people died like

1764
02:06:34,279 --> 02:06:38,760
gaslet other people. The deep irony
of this is all of these people died

1765
02:06:39,239 --> 02:06:45,760
because Alison had a moment of raw
motion but was such a sweet person,

1766
02:06:46,399 --> 02:06:50,800
right that she felt bad about it. Yeah, But if you're that fucking

1767
02:06:50,920 --> 02:06:56,079
dumb, I fucking can't. She
got killed because she was dumb, do

1768
02:06:56,119 --> 02:06:58,960
you know what I mean? Liked
because she was dumb. In those kind

1769
02:06:59,000 --> 02:07:01,520
of instances, you're just like yeah, but then how are you ever gonna

1770
02:07:02,640 --> 02:07:05,560
be in the fucking world. Let's
say you get away with this? Right?

1771
02:07:05,960 --> 02:07:10,560
My god? What is life for
you? Too pure for this world?

1772
02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:15,319
Honestly, that's that's what's the judge
and Jerry probably thought there, like

1773
02:07:15,439 --> 02:07:17,359
we can't let you live, can't
let you breathe it. I'm sure back

1774
02:07:17,640 --> 02:07:24,239
in the day more than now you
think about what is the what's the point?

1775
02:07:24,319 --> 02:07:27,000
What is your future? Yeah,
what's your future? What's the point?

1776
02:07:27,079 --> 02:07:29,079
What if I let you go?
What happens? What are you going

1777
02:07:29,119 --> 02:07:32,159
to actually contribute? You're gonna keep
fucking doing weird, dumb You're gonna be

1778
02:07:32,159 --> 02:07:39,680
a person stuff. So we're a
small community, total heathen out like you

1779
02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:43,520
got sorry, which she's a witch. We do two things at the end

1780
02:07:43,520 --> 02:07:45,960
of the episode. I don't know
if we've always done them when you were

1781
02:07:45,000 --> 02:07:49,600
here. The first one is who's
today's hitler? Okay, who's the villain

1782
02:07:49,640 --> 02:08:01,399
of today today's hitler? Um?
Who was U? The youngest gal end

1783
02:08:01,239 --> 02:08:05,000
worst name the daughter, the nine
year old daughter. That was like,

1784
02:08:05,319 --> 02:08:11,119
yeah, only because um, only
because I'm I'm triggered by it, I'm

1785
02:08:11,159 --> 02:08:15,159
attacked by it. Yeah, And
because you could see your kids doing that.

1786
02:08:15,640 --> 02:08:20,960
Yeah, and if any like the
power that daughters, especially at that

1787
02:08:22,039 --> 02:08:26,520
age, wheeled against like their elder, Right, but you only know this

1788
02:08:26,920 --> 02:08:31,319
from your point of view as a
daughter for now you will understand it from

1789
02:08:31,319 --> 02:08:33,159
the other side, That's what I
mean. But I'm saying, like the

1790
02:08:33,359 --> 02:08:39,920
power that they wheeled like, she
definitely completely took advantage of that and was

1791
02:08:39,000 --> 02:08:43,319
like I just honestly, when I
was writing this and I knew you're gonna

1792
02:08:43,319 --> 02:08:48,079
be in the episode, what like, I just imagined you as Elizabeth Device

1793
02:08:48,399 --> 02:08:50,960
being like you dumb little bitch.
Yes the fuck is wrong with you?

1794
02:08:52,159 --> 02:08:58,199
What the fuck I didn't give you
enough? You are so dumb? And

1795
02:08:58,239 --> 02:09:01,800
then and then there's like there you
go and like everything I say would like

1796
02:09:01,479 --> 02:09:05,119
reiterate why she do? You know
what I mean? Like there's you're you're,

1797
02:09:05,800 --> 02:09:09,760
you're in the weeds at that point, Like anything that I say to

1798
02:09:09,840 --> 02:09:13,279
try and get her to stop would
be the reason why she would want to

1799
02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:16,720
accuse me. Yeah, and so
Hitler, Yeah, now I'm gonna go

1800
02:09:16,800 --> 02:09:20,600
the other way. I'm gonna go
with the top broad the eighty year old

1801
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which one and and Whittle or Chile
or whatever or Whittle that like was like,

1802
02:09:26,920 --> 02:09:28,359
yeah, I mean the devil we're
in bad twenty years ago. That's

1803
02:09:28,399 --> 02:09:33,600
a damn dyke, dum dyke.
Yeah, there's a little bit of badassness

1804
02:09:33,720 --> 02:09:37,279
to that for sure. I for
them, like, I assume she damned

1805
02:09:37,279 --> 02:09:43,640
her entire family saying that. T
He's not wrong, right, he fucked

1806
02:09:43,680 --> 02:09:46,560
the whole family. She sucked the
whole family, kind of boned everyone else.

1807
02:09:46,680 --> 02:09:52,840
Yeah. I think she was like
hers, it's just you know,

1808
02:09:52,960 --> 02:09:58,760
like he blew out back. Yeah. Yeah, somebody said something to her

1809
02:09:58,840 --> 02:10:01,520
right before she walked in. Yeah, she just like repeated it. Yeah,

1810
02:10:05,079 --> 02:10:07,439
this is all just like dumb people's
stuff, like an old ladys,

1811
02:10:07,479 --> 02:10:11,399
all of the dumb people. It's
like an old lady now mean like Dwight

1812
02:10:11,520 --> 02:10:18,600
eyes and power. Yeah yeah,
it's like, now, yeah, I

1813
02:10:18,880 --> 02:10:24,479
killed him. No you didn't.
You did. I killed him. I

1814
02:10:24,640 --> 02:10:26,359
promise you didn't. You wanted to, you said you, but you didn't

1815
02:10:26,399 --> 02:10:30,039
do You didn't do it, Grandma. You were just you just made cookies

1816
02:10:30,079 --> 02:10:33,159
and that was hated him and my
hatred killed him. No, dude,

1817
02:10:33,279 --> 02:10:37,840
it's not how it works. But
how do you explain it at that point

1818
02:10:37,199 --> 02:10:41,239
in that time, At that time, she said it's possible, and then,

1819
02:10:41,479 --> 02:10:48,399
h what did we learn today?
Um? It just be crazy?

1820
02:10:48,600 --> 02:10:56,720
What did we learn? Um?
I think it's just uh, dumb people.

1821
02:10:58,159 --> 02:11:01,560
Dumb people are dumb. Dumb people
are dumb, but also like um,

1822
02:11:01,880 --> 02:11:05,880
communities will go to great lengths to
get rid of their they're dumb.

1823
02:11:05,199 --> 02:11:07,920
Yeah, I think the best way
to get to get rid of your competition

1824
02:11:09,079 --> 02:11:13,760
is just just throw out wild accusations. Yeah, they thought it would competition,

1825
02:11:13,800 --> 02:11:16,239
although it was really like a man, It's like, I forget the

1826
02:11:16,279 --> 02:11:20,239
movie, but there's like where they
like shoot each other at the same time

1827
02:11:20,319 --> 02:11:22,880
they both die, you know what
I mean? Yeah, it no,

1828
02:11:24,079 --> 02:11:26,079
not Tombstone, I forget, I
don't remember, but it was, but

1829
02:11:26,239 --> 02:11:30,600
yeah, for sure, like they
try to take each other out and they

1830
02:11:30,680 --> 02:11:35,640
just they're both gone, and then
they just like ruin entire generations of two

1831
02:11:35,800 --> 02:11:43,920
families with dumb with their real,
real dumbness, with their real, real

1832
02:11:43,079 --> 02:11:48,399
dumbness. And I don't think anyone
should underestimate the power a fucking real,

1833
02:11:50,039 --> 02:11:56,039
real dumbness to the point of almost
convincing other people. Stupidity is much more

1834
02:11:56,119 --> 02:12:01,479
powerful than people give a credit.
Because for every you who's like that's so

1835
02:12:01,720 --> 02:12:11,800
stupid. There's like twenty people that
are like, yep, yep, God

1836
02:12:11,880 --> 02:12:16,319
damn say well that's all that is
all I've got for today, Jesse.

1837
02:12:16,640 --> 02:12:20,119
As always, it's a pleasure of
absolute pleasure, you guys. This was

1838
02:12:20,279 --> 02:12:24,760
fun. I love this show.
I love you guys. And like,

1839
02:12:24,880 --> 02:12:28,640
I know, we were talking about
me maybe replacing Jake, so like,

1840
02:12:28,760 --> 02:12:31,880
let's we'll see, let's kind of
talk about that after get that, Let's

1841
02:12:31,880 --> 02:12:35,359
get those balls. Let's get those
balls, running contracts, whatever you send

1842
02:12:35,439 --> 02:12:41,079
ball to Jake. Yeah, yeah, worst name for a dog, maybe

1843
02:12:41,159 --> 02:12:46,960
he needs. I mean, look, I've been I've been in a dog

1844
02:12:48,039 --> 02:12:52,800
park in this godforsaken city. Not
trip at this point where I was just

1845
02:12:52,880 --> 02:12:56,800
like someone was like pasto, Yeah
yeah, pasto. I've heard brisket.

1846
02:12:58,760 --> 02:13:01,920
Brisket's cute, but I'm sure overdone, right, No, what's over done?

1847
02:13:03,039 --> 02:13:07,399
Like oreo all the bad? Don't
name me dog got food, dog

1848
02:13:07,479 --> 02:13:09,119
shit? Just name it a normal
name, a normal name. Because I

1849
02:13:09,119 --> 02:13:13,920
had a fraternity brother who named his
dog Yeager, and I hated him for

1850
02:13:13,039 --> 02:13:16,760
it. I didn't even like him
beginning, but I hated him for it.

1851
02:13:16,920 --> 02:13:20,479
Name a human name though. Name
it's Scott, right, My dogs

1852
02:13:20,479 --> 02:13:22,840
are Jack and Leo. I do
like that, like dogs with like for

1853
02:13:24,079 --> 02:13:28,359
real human names. Yeah, Carl, yep, it's cute. The next

1854
02:13:28,399 --> 02:13:33,199
one, My next dog might be
Carl Carl or Willie, Willie's cute old

1855
02:13:33,479 --> 02:13:43,000
rally Bob or Bob Bobby, Bob
Junior five Bobby five. That is all

1856
02:13:43,079 --> 02:13:46,720
I've got. Make sure to like
and subscribe, leave a review please.

1857
02:13:46,760 --> 02:13:50,680
At helps, we have a Patreon, by the goddamn way patreon dot com

1858
02:13:50,760 --> 02:13:54,520
slash software history. This week,
Jake led the episode and we talked about

1859
02:13:54,520 --> 02:13:58,319
I believe the first people to claim
to be objected by UFO, first UFO

1860
02:13:58,399 --> 02:14:03,600
abduction in US history. Yeah,
yeah, and we will say, I

1861
02:14:03,680 --> 02:14:07,159
mean, Jake, say what you
will, but that sounds like a really

1862
02:14:07,239 --> 02:14:11,159
good that's a good Jakes. He
did well. He did again. I

1863
02:14:11,239 --> 02:14:15,239
would never say this to his face, but never big time good Jake.

1864
02:14:15,600 --> 02:14:18,800
But I hope he doesn't listen because
he is so five bucks a month.

1865
02:14:18,840 --> 02:14:22,640
You get an extra episode every week, and then we're gonna start. Yeah,

1866
02:14:22,760 --> 02:14:24,159
so we're getting our guts in a
row, and that is happening very

1867
02:14:24,199 --> 02:14:28,439
soon. You're gonna get your money's
worth. Yeah you all, you already

1868
02:14:28,479 --> 02:14:31,239
do. But you're gonna get your
money's worth more. We're not gonna keep

1869
02:14:31,319 --> 02:14:35,840
charging more, We're just gonna keep
putting more on there. So love you,

1870
02:14:37,279 --> 02:14:41,640
Thank you for listening for Dan Rogester
and Jesse Wiseman, our special guest,

1871
02:14:41,920 --> 02:14:43,840
I am Rob Fox and you just
got self served.