WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:03.640 Hey, it's Bob Pickett. We are on our way to the legendary Broken 2 00:00:03.680 --> 00:00:20.000 Spoke. Come on, let's get out the truck and head inside. Come 3 00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:24.160 on, let's go inside. Get ready for another tale from the Broken Spoke. 4 00:00:25.280 --> 00:00:29.280 Let's get back to our conversation with John Michael Whitby on Tails and the 5 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:32.200 Broken Spoke. John Michael, how long? How many times you played here 6 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:34.719 at this spoke? I know you mentioned you were here just the other night 7 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:40.039 playing quite a few, but a few in fact, Kyle when he was 8 00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:43.000 getting started, I got in the gig to open up for a sleep at 9 00:00:43.039 --> 00:00:46.320 the Wheel. It may have been how he met Jason a long time ago. 10 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:48.880 When did you first meet Kyle? Because I I you know, the 11 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:52.920 first record that Kyle had out, Sammy already got it played on Kendre. 12 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:55.719 Were you part of that project? Yeah? Yeah, I produced that. 13 00:00:55.799 --> 00:01:00.640 One singer played on it, What's Hot to Sing on it? Jason Roberts 14 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:03.920 played on it, John Carroll played on it. I'm thinking about But it 15 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:08.400 was the collection of songs. So that's that's that's before the Texas Tree. 16 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:12.439 I think Kyle was nineteen. How did you meet Kyle? Then? That 17 00:01:12.599 --> 00:01:18.280 was through? Uh, there was a guy, uh, Alex Lipsitz. 18 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:22.200 We called him Alex Lipschitz, but he was he was from Waco growing up. 19 00:01:22.239 --> 00:01:26.400 I knew him and he was playing with Shooter Jennings and Stargun in LA 20 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:29.319 and anyway, he was doing producing. I think he still does. I 21 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:33.239 haven't talked to him in a while, but he was producing this his mom. 22 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:36.760 Kyle's mom knew his mom, and he knew I was doing some music 23 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:38.040 in Austin and he didn't know anybody, and so he said, put a 24 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:41.719 band together. So that's how we did it. That was on his demo, 25 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:47.040 Kyle's demo, and I think I think Sammy got that, but Sammy 26 00:01:47.120 --> 00:01:49.920 might have gotten the first, uh the first record. So and I produced 27 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:55.840 that over to Cedar Creek Adam or to produce. Anyway. Yeah, back 28 00:01:55.840 --> 00:01:57.439 in the nineties we're talking about. I didn't realize that you've known Kyle that 29 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:01.560 long. I'd have to think about what year though it was, but it 30 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:07.239 might be early two thousands maybe, yeah for sure. And I know, 31 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:10.960 so how long have you been picking with the State Line Band? Which I 32 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:15.840 love and I think Jody's such a phenomenal He's a great singer and great guy. 33 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:19.319 Looks like a star. Well, I won't play with them all the 34 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:23.199 time, but they do a little you know, George Straight tribute or set 35 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:28.800 and we we play I don't know, over twenty George Strait songs. I 36 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:32.080 remember when we did the thirty number ones and the thirty number ones, you 37 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:38.080 know, Friday Saturday Night in Las Vegas, and oh the Mighty Georgia that 38 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:39.719 was the one one and done right there. Boys, that was a lot 39 00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:43.520 of stuff. But anyway, we played. They play some George Straight stuff, 40 00:02:43.560 --> 00:02:46.680 so they I like them and they take care of me, and so 41 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:51.319 they're like, hey, this guy's in the band. So it's like a 42 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:53.840 license to print money. I just I'll draw. So there was a bunch 43 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:57.960 of dancing people the other night, and it's being south By Southwest. There 44 00:02:58.039 --> 00:03:01.240 was a that was a who Mike was getting something to drink Me and Benny 45 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:04.759 Mack and Bennie Man goes, hey, you see that guy over there, 46 00:03:04.759 --> 00:03:07.039 so yeah, he's from Norway, and you hear people talking. This one 47 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:10.879 lady came up and said we took a break and she goes, when when 48 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:15.680 are we going to be able to do the group dance? And I said, 49 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:19.639 I said, oh, the group dance. I said, I don't 50 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:22.000 know, you need to talk to him, and she goes who And I 51 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:27.599 said, the lead singer, go tell that I don't know, Joe. 52 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:30.840 She's in here, you know, given lessons before, but the group dance. 53 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:34.919 So anyway, but I'd be a special guest with the state line. 54 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:38.400 Anytime somebody asks you that, you go that's in the next set. Yes, 55 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:45.639 well, we got done at whatever, twelve forty five. I mean 56 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:50.520 it's a it's a marathon. And then then they start this one more song, 57 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:53.800 one more song, one more and I'm like, dude, give me 58 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:55.199 a break. And so Hayden, they can come up to Hayden but Terra 59 00:03:55.560 --> 00:04:00.000 and Hayden goes, no, they make a shut down at twelve forty five. 60 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:02.080 It's there. You know, we're blaming everything on Mike and Spoke. 61 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:05.360 So yeah, we didn't play one more song because if we know anything about 62 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:11.280 Mike and the Spoke is they hate selling more alcohol. Yeah, having people. 63 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:15.120 It's a hard cut boys, get off the stage. Music's over, 64 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:18.160 get out, parties shouts over. No, what is it about that Spoke? 65 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:21.319 Though? This special toy? You man? The I mean, just 66 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:25.879 look around, Bob and if you haven't been to the Broken Spoke, which 67 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:28.759 some people haven't been to the Broken Spoke. I'm like, man, this 68 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:30.959 is so much history right here, and to think about, you know, 69 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:36.199 if the walls could talk and seeing, Yeah, Bob Wills and Ernest Tubb 70 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:41.480 and Hank Thompson, everybody. And I'm just George Straight on Wednesdays in nineteen 71 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:44.319 seventy nine. Well, how much are those tickets back then? One buck 72 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:46.560 the riff raft tax. Mister White called that the riff raft tacks. One 73 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:49.920 buck to see George Straight, I see, we call that the riff raft 74 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:55.600 tacks. That's how to keep all the bombs out. That's yeah, that's 75 00:04:55.639 --> 00:05:00.199 good. And James White knowing him, you know, over the years and 76 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:04.319 having just good memories of the spoken, just how much history is here. 77 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:10.800 So I got onto one guy. He said something about a dive baruh I 78 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:14.800 remember his name, but he said something about Garth Brooks playing dive bars and 79 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:19.639 dive bar. But Garth was here because of south By Southwest. He played 80 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:25.399 was green, yeah, which is but that's what he should have called it, 81 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:30.800 a Texas honkey talk to her right. The dive bar got lumped into 82 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:36.519 the spoke, and I got on social media and scolded him publicly on social 83 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:45.079 media? Did you set him straight? It's an institution, it is. 84 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:48.319 It's a dance hall to some people, it's a honkey talked up, just 85 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:53.560 a piece of history to me, should be here forever and ever. Amen, 86 00:05:53.680 --> 00:05:57.079 And yeah, I agree with you. It is the Texas going to 87 00:05:57.079 --> 00:05:59.959 play here. I don't know. That's a great question. The grown man's 88 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:02.439 gigs. So are you going to have a record release here? Because I 89 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:04.839 can't think of a better place. You know, that's a great idea, 90 00:06:05.639 --> 00:06:09.759 uh Bob, And we're actually talking about that. Answers, Yes, right 91 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:14.560 now. I want to have a release. We should. I think you 92 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:18.439 could be invited and wouldn't miss it. But we are only only three and 93 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:24.160 there the talk is if somebody ever wanted drums and bass, I mean we 94 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:26.839 could do that for sure. Oh drums for parades. Yeah, don't even 95 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:29.959 worry about that, man. Yeah, you don't need that. We got 96 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:32.680 the didn't have a drummer for two years, man, we do really Yeah, 97 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:38.360 yeah records that that's Bill Black slap in the base. Man, it's 98 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:41.879 not even a drummer. You don't need that. So I don't know if 99 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:45.199 we're gonna play here or not. But uh yeah, we're looking. We'll 100 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:47.399 see May seventeenth, when the Sucker gets released. You don't have a date 101 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:50.560 that day with straight in place to you. May seventeenth, We don't, 102 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:56.240 No, we don't. And that's his birthdays eighteenth, Yeah, yeah, 103 00:06:56.879 --> 00:07:00.639 my birthday, Bubba's birthday, Kyle Park's wife's birthday, May fourteenth, five 104 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:04.879 fourteen. It's club that we have. Actually, it's good, fantastic. 105 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:09.079 You said you grew up in New Bronfels, right, well, Waco, 106 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:12.720 born in Austin, Waco and the New Bronfles Yes high School in New bron 107 00:07:12.759 --> 00:07:15.399 Feles. Okay, all right, And did you start picking just to like 108 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:18.199 meet chicks or playing in church? I had to. I had to take 109 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:23.399 piano, remember was I picked out a little a little you know, a 110 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:28.680 melody on on the TV and figured out the notes es. I was young. 111 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:30.759 You could already had the aptitude for I think it's paid off for you. 112 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:33.160 So the day you were born, God made you a piano player. 113 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:36.519 That's what that is. Yeah, for sure, that's what it is. 114 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:41.519 And then just started taking lessons from there and had to play recitals and all 115 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:45.120 that. And then I thought it was stupid, like, so like, 116 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:48.639 you can read and everything. Well, I did graduate from New Bronfles High 117 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:53.480 School, so I can't. I can't read. No, you want to 118 00:07:53.480 --> 00:07:58.800 speak a little bit slower, I can. I can read numbers. Yeah, 119 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:01.279 the note for note takes me a while now and I just never enjoyed 120 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:05.480 that. Yeah, shape notes mean that it is chicken scratch. But you 121 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:07.000 know numbers. Yeah, that's easy, of course, right yeah, but 122 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:11.519 uh yeah, So anyway, I had to play and then and then but 123 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:15.000 I got into Jerry Lee, Lewis and McKey gilly. After that I got 124 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:18.120 to hanging around the Kicker crowd. You're just like, man, I want 125 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:20.800 to play some that's the piano I want to play well. And then in 126 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:24.839 particularly those Jerry Lee country records, those things that were on monument Billy Ryl 127 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:28.160 did and those are those are some of the greatest. Like if he if 128 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:31.799 he'd never ever made one rock and roll record in the fifties, if he 129 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:35.879 just had been known as a country act, I think he's still in the 130 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:39.480 Country Music Hall of Fame, those those Jerryley records. Yeah, he went 131 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:43.559 in shortly before he passed. They waited for he went in the Rock and 132 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:46.039 Roll Hall of Fame was one of the first. Let's make a little prediction. 133 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:48.000 Writer. First of all, let's give the date we're taping this. 134 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:50.960 This won't be on the podcast for a couple of weeks. But this is 135 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:54.879 May the thirteen. No, it's it's excuse me, March thirteenth. March 136 00:08:54.000 --> 00:09:00.440 thirteen. Coming up Monday morning, Brooks and Dunn will announce the class of 137 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:05.320 twenty twenty four for the Country Music Call of Fantastic. Now, if June 138 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:09.559 Carter Cash does not get in this year, I'm gonna do some hoop and 139 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:13.480 holler and any any predictions, Well, people vote on that. I guess. 140 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:18.919 No, Charlie Richarding in, yeah, and Johnny Paycheck's not in. 141 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:22.480 That's wild, yeah. I mean to me, it's like Charlie Richard in 142 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:26.399 for political reasons because he earned the envelope. He burned the envelope with John 143 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:31.679 Denver's name in it, which I think is great. But Charlie rich deserves 144 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:33.799 me to country, me to call of Fame. I mean, my god, 145 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:35.879 that behind closed doors, rolling with the flow of some of the greatest 146 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:39.279 records ever. You know, Eddie Rabbit, I think Eddie Rabbit, But 147 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:43.879 I think before Rabbit, and he certainly deserves it. I think Johnny Paycheck 148 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:48.120 and you know, on paycheck's not there because of you know, Travis Tritz 149 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:50.519 not in there. So he's been making records. Thirty five, timmcgra something 150 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:54.919 something tells me Tim mcgrawl will probably be in this year. This year, 151 00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:58.159 I'm just guessing. I think so, yeah, I don't think Toby Keith 152 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:01.720 should be that Toby won't be because of I think that he will be eventually. 153 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:03.279 He will be eventually. You know, I don't know if my girl's 154 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:07.600 body of work is has the depth. Well, I'm telling you that I 155 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:09.960 think he's sold a lot of records, but it's not r I A A. 156 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:13.240 It's your peers. You know. R I A A gives you the 157 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:18.279 gold records, and the Country Music Hall of Fame is is also about your 158 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:22.240 artistic contribution. And that's why I think somebody like Charlie Richard, Johnny Paycheck 159 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:24.799 of the newer people quote unquote newer you know, I would say Travis Tripp, 160 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:28.639 Tricia, Oh my god, yea, Tricia, certainly, how about 161 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:33.960 you? What do you think I have given that zero thought about? This 162 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:39.039 is called show prep. We're making predictions. We sent you the email. 163 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:43.759 No, I agree with Johnny Paycheck. You know his real name, Donnie 164 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:48.720 Donnie Lytle. That's correct. And what was his first full time gig he 165 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:56.120 played with? Uh? Was it Roger Miller? It was Jones, Jones, 166 00:10:56.759 --> 00:11:01.519 George Jones. I'm just he had to think harmony says we're growing all 167 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:05.600 And you never mentioned the word turtle meat to Johnny Paycheck. Yeah, shot, 168 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:09.279 Yeah, that's that's why I think that he got thrown in prison. 169 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:13.039 Far fight. Well, first country star I ever met was Paycheck in seventy 170 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:16.679 nine. Wow, I'll show you that photo. I would love to see 171 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.720 how old you had to been? Just well, sixteen seventeen. I was 172 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:24.279 eighteen? Wow? Eighteen? Are you from Austin? No, I'm from 173 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:28.480 Sweetwater Man, grew up in Sweetwater, spent some time in Lovebock came down 174 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:31.759 here in eighty one. Wow, so I've been some time in Loveck. 175 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:37.799 You were paroled. I spent time in Lobock, Texas tech one to come 176 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:41.519 down here and see water, women and trees. Done. So what was 177 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:43.440 it like? I mean Paycheck seventy eight, that's shove it. That's Colorado 178 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:46.639 kool aid. That paycheck that was the time seventy nine when I saw him. 179 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:50.080 That's when he was big man. Yeah was it? Was he cool 180 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:52.080 to you? Yeah, very nice, fantastic, Yeah, very nice. 181 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:54.799 That was a steel player, Jim Big, Jim Murphy with a sleep at 182 00:11:54.799 --> 00:12:00.320 the Wheel. But he had played with Think Thompson and Lorett Lynn and Paycheck 183 00:12:00.679 --> 00:12:05.120 and and there's he was. They were playing some TV show. He's got 184 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:09.440 a free Sonny Barger shirt on and they were all friends with with Sonny Barger. 185 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:15.080 And anyway, the story is from that guy. But but uh, 186 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:18.519 there's a Merle Haggard live at Anaheim Stadium. Yeah yeah, so yeah, 187 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:22.960 so and Ronnie gave me that video or let me watch it or whatever. 188 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:28.480 And at the end, you know, uh, Merle brings out Willie Nelson 189 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:33.159 and uh Johnny Paycheck. So whatever, there's song there. That's a great 190 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:35.639 album. I forget about that. That was hard to find. It was 191 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:39.120 out of print for a while, but they came out early early eighties. 192 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:41.240 Yeah, it's one of my favorites. He made so many. Right, 193 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:46.120 don't take her, she's all I've got eleven months, nine days. Take 194 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:50.360 this job and shove it, ir. Yeah, it's good stuff. I'm 195 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:54.360 sure. You know, being the youngest member of the Ace and the whole 196 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:58.360 band, you've heard a lot of great stories from the people, your fellow 197 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:01.480 band members and everything. Yeah, and that deal was Jim Murphy was on 198 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:05.919 the bus and they dropped dropped him off at Johnny at the Kansas City Airport 199 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:09.679 or whatever, and Willie had a plane, and will he said if he 200 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:13.720 got over there, he'd fly him to Anaheim or whatever. So they did. 201 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:16.120 But then you know, towards the end of the video, you can 202 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:18.960 see Johnny Paycheck. He has on suspenders and he's man, He's walking around, 203 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:22.919 just pacing, and he's just popping those suspenders. You know, man, 204 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:28.480 he is. And the photo I got it's like Mork and Mindy suspenders 205 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:31.600 he was wearing. He was the photo fired up. So Murph just died 206 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:35.720 laughing because he had never seen that, and he just remembered dropping him off 207 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:39.440 on the plane and then he was just laughing. Yeah, he was good 208 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:41.120 friends with Johnny, So he was a He was a cool, cool, 209 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:45.799 interesting guy, A lot shorter than I thought I met him. I was 210 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:50.559 at a airport I think it was. I think it was in Phoenix, 211 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:54.399 somewhere out west fixed I was fixing fly back to Nashville. It's a late 212 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:58.120 flight. And he comes in and he has on an an army coat like 213 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:03.720 a like a World War to just coat, no shirt, bandana on his 214 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:09.279 head. And he comes and he goes up to the girl at the gate 215 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:11.840 and he said, I want to upgrade my ticket first class. She said, 216 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:16.559 well, sir, we don't normally do. I only fly first class 217 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:20.039 and I'm coach and Johnny Paycheck does not fly coach. I'm Johnny Paycheck. 218 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:26.639 And he pulled out this wad of hundreds out of his army coat and he 219 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:28.600 and I had I was on having my black leather jacket, jeans and you 220 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:31.120 know. And he goes, you're a picker, ain't you, boy? 221 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:33.600 I said yes. She said you know who I am. I said, 222 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:35.039 yes, sir, I know exactly who you are. I love your record, 223 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:37.600 sir. And he goes, let's fly first class together. I'll buy 224 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:41.879 you a first class ticket. And I said, well, I got I 225 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:45.559 got mother guys, you know. And he thought I meant so by them, 226 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:46.039 you know, I thought, I just hang out to them. And 227 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:50.600 he goes, he goes, are you the main one? I said, 228 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:52.200 yes, sir, the main wanted. I'll buy the main one of the 229 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:54.399 first class ticket. The rest of those boys can set back there. What 230 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:58.360 did you do sat with the bath? I didn't want to put I didn't 231 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:01.919 want to get on the buses, the main one that flew first class. 232 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:05.039 When they were back in the cattle section. His father in law wrote one 233 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:09.120 of Johnny Paycheck's hits, three of his hits hits Brandy's dad. He wrote 234 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:11.759 Colorado kool Aid. He wrote me and the I R s. And he 235 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:16.240 wrote Billy Bardow and this is way before you knew Brandy. Oh yeah, 236 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:18.080 yeah. Matter of fact, first time Brandy came down from Nashville when we 237 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:22.879 first started courting, I said, what are some of your dad's cuts and 238 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:26.399 and she said, well, he wrote the flip side to take this job, 239 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:28.360 and Sep and I went, no, in, Austin, take the 240 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:31.200 job and shove. It's the flip side, Colorado kool aids the A side 241 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:35.600 as far as radio, and Austin was concerned. I had the original forty 242 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:39.120 five. He also wrote, uh, baby or baby for straight. Her 243 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:43.360 dad did so. He played that the other night. Yeah, y'all don't 244 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:46.480 have desperately in the ship, but you have Colorado. I mean or baby, 245 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:52.960 the gold record for Desperately is in there, and you ingreat some yeah 246 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:56.200 that that that odd cords a two minor when it gets to it. Don't 247 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:58.919 let it scare you. He'll ride on the sett list for you, okay, 248 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:03.360 not her chart, yes, please do. It's too with a dash. 249 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:07.960 The dash means mine. Okay. So I mean you're busy all the 250 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:11.559 time, You're you're you're with Straight on the road. Occasionally you're with Ray. 251 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:17.320 You've got this new project, and you've got real estate and any books 252 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:18.879 and he got two kids, don't you books? Wait a minute, No, 253 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:23.879 he put me and Walt Wilkins on a juicy gig talking around. Just 254 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:27.559 try to take care of everybody, you know, just whatever needs to be 255 00:16:27.639 --> 00:16:30.679 done. But I do enjoy the booking thing. There's a nice lady, 256 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:36.440 uh from Cameron that uh you know, she's in the finance world, but 257 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:41.360 she loves live music and singer songwriters all this stuff anyway, But they had 258 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:45.440 a reception for some of her clients and she needed two world class singer songwriters 259 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:51.399 and they weren't available. So he hired me. So yeah, Money and 260 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:53.879 Walt did it and it was great. It was a nice evening. It 261 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:57.559 was. It was fantastic. So but I'll go and try to, you 262 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:02.159 know, talk to everybody and which job you enjoy the most? One of 263 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:04.559 that feeds his kids? Well, yeah, I'm playing music. You can't 264 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:07.599 top that now, you know, Yeah, just playing you know so, 265 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:11.519 and that's not really the job. The job is all the other stuff. 266 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:15.279 That's right. It goes around around it. But everybody that that's on the 267 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:18.160 rovio. For instance, this year the gigs with stapleson, you know, 268 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:22.119 opening up the Moody Center, Willie Nelson, Yeah, you know, I 269 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:26.920 mean, oh, man, that's a that's a lot from a kid who 270 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:33.160 you know, uh, started playing piano and had no idea where he was 271 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:34.279 going to end up. Man, it's been a fun journey for you. 272 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:40.359 Well, I'm picking with straight. I mean really, there's been enough time 273 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:45.559 for a historical perspective. That's like Sinatra, Pressley Gerald one of the all 274 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:49.079 time great artists in any genre, and you picked with him for years. 275 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:52.759 That that is an honor, that's a generational honor. Your brand babies will 276 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:56.440 talk about that. Yeah. Well, hopefully the people recognize you. So, 277 00:17:56.519 --> 00:18:00.839 hey, aren't you remember the ash and the whole band you and MONI 278 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:06.319 due Mike does Hey Mike, he recognizes me? Uh I No, not 279 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:10.039 really. I mean sometimes you'll get this or that, But I don't know 280 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:14.920 if recognized is the word i'd use for what I see. See you. 281 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:18.880 George show me a story about his trailer blowing a tire or something one time 282 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:22.440 by new Brothels, and he walked into the tire shop, that truck stop 283 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:26.200 on top of the hill. He said, I need a new tire or 284 00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:30.599 whatever, and the lady said okay, blah blah blah, and then yeah, 285 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:37.279 okay, all good, and then she started looking and looking like that's 286 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:41.519 recognized. But uh yeah, I'd say if I walked into some show, 287 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:48.799 they wouldn't turn me. They usually don't turn me away. But yeah, 288 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:51.720 we all know one another. I think pretty much. Right well, I 289 00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:56.039 think you hang around with a great you know, cool guys. You know 290 00:18:56.039 --> 00:19:00.319 when Elvis came with playing golf at Peter Pan here and Allston, the girl 291 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:06.839 that gave him his him Scotty and Bill of clubs, she said, you 292 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:08.480 look like that new boy Elvis Preshy and he said, I get that a 293 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:14.799 lot. That's great, that's good. I think Ray Ray was in the 294 00:19:14.839 --> 00:19:18.160 truck stop eating one time, and the lady came up and said, you 295 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:21.119 signed an autograph for me? And I was like, oh, sure, 296 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:22.559 I think I have this right. But anyway, she said, I know 297 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:26.960 who you are. He said you do, said, yeah, you're Tray 298 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:32.559 Sadkins. I think he signed the trace. That's so great. Ray just 299 00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:33.920 had a birthday yesterday. As you call him up, wish mappy birthday. 300 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:37.960 Well, I think his birthday's Friday or Saturday. I got in my phone. 301 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:41.480 I will but birthday party could be wrong. Birthday party was last night. 302 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:45.079 I think it's a fifteen. His birthday party, well, hell, 303 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:48.559 let's just call it, you know, Ray Benson week, My god should 304 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:52.519 be I was unable to. Uh. He got a proclamation from the mayor 305 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:56.160 last night, Saturday, birthday sixteenth, sixth sixteenth? Did y'all go? 306 00:19:56.720 --> 00:19:59.960 I went? I went excellent last night. Brandy and I went for about. 307 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:03.319 That's an annual event that I look forward to all the time because just 308 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:07.319 the talent that Ray will bring out on stage. You never know, you 309 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:11.599 know who's going to show up and see. Kelly Willis was there last night 310 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:17.000 because she just recorded a song of mine on a great album and see because 311 00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:21.039 she wants to be successful, right, whereas the people that have fear of 312 00:20:21.079 --> 00:20:25.880 success tend to not record people. People watching the video podcast can see you 313 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:32.559 holding up the album the CD right now and kind of t X three x 314 00:20:32.599 --> 00:20:34.440 three great people, great music. Well no, wait a minute, t 315 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:37.319 X three. There needs to be a t X two before a t X 316 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:42.000 three. See planning these and the three of them. The second one I'm 317 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:47.200 talking about the album though, one you got to and two should have a 318 00:20:47.319 --> 00:20:49.960 money Warden. It should be a money Warden tribute record. Really is what 319 00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:55.000 it should be. A ten cut. Nobody's made that yet every time I 320 00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:57.960 make a record, it's a money Warden talked about it. She needs to 321 00:20:57.960 --> 00:21:04.119 talk to Ray. Vincent got exactly the one artist he had, Vincent's reggae 322 00:21:04.119 --> 00:21:08.519 record he's got coming out. Uh. The only way that I'm a part 323 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:14.160 of that is just being appreciative as a fan listener. Yes, no, 324 00:21:14.279 --> 00:21:17.799 because he went to Jamaica and did that stuff. That's good stuff. I 325 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:22.680 mean it's it really is the cuts I've heard it great. It is different, 326 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:25.720 yeah, and it is good. I mean it's you got all these 327 00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:29.680 guys playing, there's some girls singing and it's fun the groove. I can't 328 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:33.680 I can't play that groove. You ever had a moment where you froze up 329 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:37.000 on stage and you forgot whether the words or how to how to play the 330 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:38.880 piano and a certain song, or any kind of equipment problems that happened to 331 00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:44.359 you. You know, I got to sing the national anthem at the National 332 00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:48.119 Finals rodeo, I don't know a few years ago or whatever, at Texas 333 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:52.000 Ranger at the ballpark. You do say, yeah, yeah. A buddy 334 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:55.240 of mine called and people had canceled, and I was like the one hundred 335 00:21:55.319 --> 00:21:59.920 millionth person on the list, all the way down on the phone book. 336 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:04.559 Randy Carroll couldn't do it. Randy Carroll couldn't do it. Eric Rains couldn't 337 00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:07.680 do it. They went, they went through everybody. I've heard. I've 338 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:14.880 heard Randy singing before the ballgame the Rangers. Wow, that's anyway you talk 339 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:18.400 about. No, No, I got through that. I just looked at 340 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:22.599 the flag, stared at the flag because that was maybe the most nervous like 341 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:27.880 that I've you you cannot, but oh man, it was. It's huge. 342 00:22:27.960 --> 00:22:32.559 Here's the secret. You start low, say, is the lowest note 343 00:22:32.599 --> 00:22:36.759 in that song and people always start too high. If you can hit say 344 00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:41.039 deeply and richly, but hit it low, you'll be okay. But if 345 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:47.319 you you know what I did was I started with the high uh Land of 346 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:49.640 the Free right, Yeah, I started with that high. That's what I 347 00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:56.000 did. Yeah, okay, And I doubt they doubt they will, but 348 00:22:56.079 --> 00:23:02.599 I actually I'm not a singer, but I thought i'd did good and people 349 00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:08.559 said that's the way the anthem should be, saying absolutely, so I gave 350 00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:14.240 it justice. But anyway, freezing it well. Keyboard fell off the stool 351 00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:18.920 one time, Ranch on Nicosia will Sleep the Wheel Race said, I won't 352 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:21.759 say the S word, but he said trick. He looked over at me 353 00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:25.319 and the keyboards on the floor and I'm like, what the Obviously the stand, 354 00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:27.480 you know, gave way or something, but I hadn't set it up, 355 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:30.359 so I didn't know anything about it. But he said, trick your 356 00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:33.680 crap before the gig and they come over there and we're trying to lift it 357 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:37.200 up, and I'm like, oh, what happened? So that broke? 358 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:41.519 My stool broke on stage one time with George we were in Tulsa, Oklahoma 359 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:45.440 city. Whatever arena and I've had nightmares about that. And the damn thing 360 00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:49.799 broke gave way. It was this wrinky ink thing. I can tell you 361 00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:53.720 all about it, what I won't use ever again. On stage, I 362 00:23:53.759 --> 00:23:59.720 was switching back and forth from the Hammond to the to the you know string. 363 00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:02.599 I have wall controller for that, but anyway, yeah, and it 364 00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:06.559 gave way man and I hit the hit the deck and I heard the section 365 00:24:06.680 --> 00:24:08.920 behind me go, you know, they kind of gasp. And I look 366 00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:12.640 up and I see the top of the arena and I'm like, oh, 367 00:24:12.839 --> 00:24:18.359 And I think we were playing like run or something where the keyboard the since 368 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:22.880 starts the song and I've got petals everywhere, and I remember having to make 369 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:26.559 do and and the little man came up there and was trying to fix it. 370 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:30.279 George was walking by, and I mean, he's cool, but he 371 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:32.599 had to be. I never did ask him, but he had to go, 372 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:34.960 what the hell is going on there? But did you stand up like 373 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:45.519 the stand up and play the gig saying hey that's once? No, No, 374 00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:48.960 there was no that was that was none of that. So genuinely, 375 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:53.519 genuinely was not my fault. But if it had been your fault and didn't 376 00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:57.240 set you up for that, then he did not set me up. But 377 00:24:57.319 --> 00:25:02.880 also something like that. It wouldn't anybody's fault. It just gave it time, 378 00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:04.920 Okay, But was it like a keyboard player. I mean, you 379 00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:08.400 see guitar players the string breaks. I saw that happen the other night at 380 00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:11.960 the Eagles concert, you know, with Joe Walsh. What's the worst thing 381 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:15.799 that can happen to a keyboard player on stage? I mean, really, 382 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:19.279 you're just stuff doesn't even turn on. No, your stuff not working. 383 00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:22.240 Sometimes your ship just didn't. That happened to Ronnie, like I don't know, 384 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:27.519 months ago. He was playing some gig and he turned it on and 385 00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:30.920 I mean I think it worked during soundcheck and turned on nothing and couldn't get 386 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:33.720 it. And I'm so I don't know what he did, but I know 387 00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:37.680 he was not happy at all. So that's the worst. Who's the band 388 00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:47.000 leader? N Ronnie's a band leaders, Okay, he's very regimented. So 389 00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:49.599 and that's a good thing in that position because that's just a lot of junk 390 00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:53.960 stuff to keep up with. So there's a lot of people in that band, 391 00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:56.519 and if you're at a stadium, you're on end. You gotta be 392 00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:00.319 looking. So there's a lot more a drummer as the artist job, I 393 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:06.599 think because he's watching the main one. But watching the main one. Money 394 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:11.640 didn't get watching the watch and he was watching everybody in your and it's like, 395 00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:17.799 yeah, I mean so, but like I think, like like you 396 00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:21.880 know, and I've only done you know, maybe a couple of dozen stadium 397 00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:26.559 gigs, but they kind of it's just kind of just a stage but bigger, 398 00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:30.759 like you know, for me, the like playing a theater. The 399 00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:33.680 soft seaters are the ones where, really, I mean, you can hear 400 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:38.200 everything and the audience can hear you talking to the band. And that's one 401 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:41.480 of my main things is, you know, I talk to the guys all 402 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:45.559 the time and we use you know, cinemax language when we talk to one 403 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:49.559 another, and in a theater they can hear everyone. Also when you're playing 404 00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:53.839 the round, I mean, y'all like having something behind you solid. I 405 00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:57.119 mean, that's gonna be nerve wracking. I'm doing that because then you can 406 00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:00.599 see everybody. You get a chance to see it, Yeah you do have 407 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.200 you want to make sure that you got your wrangler patch and and and your 408 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:07.759 Zilker belt ready to be seen. And you know, say, hey, 409 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:11.519 I'm not trying to be funny here, but can you take a picture of 410 00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:18.039 me from behind so I can send Yeah, So I don't need anything solid. 411 00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:22.599 I like the round better because then you're looking and and you know, 412 00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:26.880 and and it's fans, so they're they're on your song, they're on your 413 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:30.440 side. They know that they made a point to come to the show. 414 00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:34.160 Get you know, put on a clean shirt, ask some chick out, 415 00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:37.559 you know, all that stuff where you know, it's uh it really it's 416 00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:41.119 particularly in country music. I mean, the fans are so wonderful and so 417 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:47.880 low and all they really expect you is to play songs they want to hear, 418 00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:51.440 and don't get above your raisin. You know. It's really cool time. 419 00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:52.960 Amen, definitely want to see that. And the cool thing about the 420 00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:59.680 straight gigg also, everybody knows the songs they sing along changed, and these 421 00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:02.559 songs their lives. They're in an indelible part of it, part of their 422 00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:06.359 lives, chapters of their lives actually and everything. And you got a cool 423 00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:08.400 gig, man, you got a real cool gig a long time ago where 424 00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:12.559 I didn't play because I was just sitting there and I think I was like 425 00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:17.000 singing along like still much or something. I don't know, something. I 426 00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:19.400 was just you know, listening to the song. You were a fan, 427 00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:23.160 Yeah, I'm just you know, I remember just looking down and then kind 428 00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:26.039 of waking up, going, dude, you got to play on this. 429 00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:30.400 It's like start play your parts. You know. I was just enjoying. 430 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:34.000 Yeah, wait, don't do something here. That's a really cool B three 431 00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:37.279 part here coming out? Yeah yeah, yeah or ship that's me. So 432 00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:41.640 yeah, when you enjoy the music that you're playing, and that's a lot 433 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.799 of fun and rewarding. You know. I heard that you guys are going 434 00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:48.559 to be part of this new Straight album too coming out. We got to 435 00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:52.079 play four songs on the new records. There's thirteen something like that, but 436 00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:59.559 we did Yeah, we did a Dean a Dean Bubba George song more like 437 00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:06.079 a gosp tune called the Book, and then we did way More's Blues. 438 00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:10.759 Oh wow. Yeah, so that's how we did it, just like that, 439 00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:14.960 And I think that I'm proud of that because I think everybody really played 440 00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:19.720 awesome on on that. So that's cool and we like it. And then 441 00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:27.039 uh, there's a Keith Gadda song called I Wish I wish I could say, 442 00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.839 and uh, I don't know if Keith co wrote it with somebody, 443 00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.599 but uh, man, it's like, I don't know. We did it 444 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.880 just like Eith had the had the the demo, you know what I'm saying, 445 00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:45.079 And and then there's an there's another one. Uh what else did we 446 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.279 do? Oh? The one that we did was am I, Am I 447 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:53.039 Down and am I. That's a Dean Dylan song. And I know that 448 00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:56.720 he wanted because when I saw him months ago, he said, well, 449 00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:00.599 we didn't get any songs on the new George record. It's okay. I 450 00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.720 told him, I want you to make the best record you can. I 451 00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:07.519 thought, well, that's cool, and then we did. We cut two 452 00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:10.720 of those songs, so that's so that's tasty. But yeah, the overall 453 00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:14.799 record sounds. It sounds great Joe Kinley and all the players. But there's 454 00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:18.039 some good songs. A couple of them, A couple of them moved me. 455 00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.720 There's one that Keith wrote with Guy Clark called Rent and man that's just 456 00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:26.880 like Killer. There's a few Killer songs that are really good. But it's 457 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.359 been I think five years since George released a record, and man, he's 458 00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.319 uh he's singing better than he ever has. It seems he sings great, 459 00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.640 sings great, sounds more comfortable. I mean, it's just wild. It's 460 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:40.640 like, you know, because like the male voice is like like it's it's 461 00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:42.839 peak is like from you know, fifty five to sixty five they say, 462 00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:47.160 and straight it's just he's singing his ass off. I mean, it just 463 00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:51.480 sounds so good. And you know, and I because I've been a fan 464 00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:53.359 since you know, straight counting since before he cuts you right here. Yeah, 465 00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:56.759 oh my lord, of course. You know. I stood out in 466 00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.519 the rain there at the Double League one. I'm fifteen years old. It's 467 00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:04.839 it's uh me and a thousand chicks. I was like the only dude in 468 00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:10.599 the audience, Hucky, They're only human after up. But now Hukaby, 469 00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:12.119 I was right up front, and Huckaby was laughing his ass off. He's 470 00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:15.200 going to that kid, here's pointing about to everybody. I was the only 471 00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:19.519 I was fifteen, because they sneak me in, Wayne Nagel sneaked me in 472 00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:25.640 because I just loved Joe and uh and I was the only dude in there. 473 00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:29.839 But anyway, you know, I just uh loved him and uh, 474 00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:34.119 I just think he's singing is like it's like there's no he's not taking any 475 00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:38.000 breaths or checking out or ducking anything. He's singing his ass off. I 476 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:42.599 mean, it's so inspiring to see somebody like George Strait who doesn't have to 477 00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:48.359 necessarily sing great her even more though, and he's just it means so much 478 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.559 to him, And because it means so much to him, he's singing so 479 00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:53.960 great. Have you learned anything from being a member of the e of the 480 00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:59.720 whole band from the other band members, anything that we can publicly talk about. 481 00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:02.519 What haven't I learned? Really? You know you're playing You're playing with 482 00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:07.519 the best band. That's what Bennie Mack says is he's my illegitimate father on 483 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:09.960 the road. And I passed the beer joint school because he'd always give me 484 00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:15.279 marks in the back lounge. But I passed me. Jason Robertson Hayden Materia, 485 00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:17.519 we all passed Bennie's beer joint school. But uh, you learn a 486 00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:22.400 whole lot. One thing you learned is to not drink the last glass of 487 00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:29.039 wine and uh from a wine bottle on the bus that you think is just 488 00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:31.880 like bus stock that you don't know what's yours. You can learn that lesson, 489 00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:37.359 Yeah you learned that? What other what others? There's there's there's a 490 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:40.119 lot of lessons to be to be learned out there. Musically, you guys 491 00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:46.880 are just yeah, having Rick McCrae and Joe Manuel and yeah you can. 492 00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:52.559 That's pretty awesome. All those guys and anybody that's ever worked with Joe has 493 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:58.599 learned to say Joe no means no. Who's the announcer who announces that you 494 00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:01.799 it is? That's right. I thought that was you when I wouldn't sell 495 00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:05.839 you guys up in Fort Worth, I thought that was you saying that used 496 00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:10.039 to be the backup singer. And then uh, that guy Tom Flora a 497 00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:14.319 long time ago was wasn't feeling great, so he didn't want to do it, 498 00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:17.039 and I always wanted to do it, like one time, and now 499 00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:22.119 you got the gig. Ronnie said you still want to bring us on stage 500 00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:24.599 tonight? And I said, he said you still want to bring us on 501 00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:29.839 stage? Sometimes? I said, heck yea, he goes you're up and 502 00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:32.319 I was like, what, he goes no tonight? So I was like, 503 00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:36.119 uh, well, uh you know, and start doing that crap. 504 00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:38.160 And then I get off stage. Yeah, and Georgia goes to Michael and 505 00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:40.400 I said, yes, sir, and he goes, you're gonna bring me 506 00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:45.279 on tonight. I said yes, sir, and he said, don't screw 507 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:52.440 it up. So gentlemen, please make well Georgia hold on a minute. 508 00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:55.759 Yeah. Back in the old days, they had always have disc jockeys do 509 00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:58.720 that, and I got to do that a couple of times. I got 510 00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:01.519 to escort George one time the Irwin Center when it was in the round walk 511 00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:06.599 with George, walk right behind Tom and George all the way to the stage, 512 00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:08.400 and that was the coolest thing in the world. My mother was there 513 00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:12.840 that night. And then I took my mom on the bus afterwards when we 514 00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:16.599 got to meet George. Been on the bus. She was excited and we 515 00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:21.000 get off of We get off of George's bus and Mom goes, that was 516 00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:24.679 so much fun. But I think that George was drinking. But you know 517 00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:29.480 what having having jocks bring you up is like, uh, it's dangerous. 518 00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:34.079 Well what they all of you and you know, because y'all aren't taught, 519 00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.280 Because it's your it's your deal, you know, ladon, gentlemen. Yeah, 520 00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:40.079 but it's they they screwed with the mic. You have the mic ready 521 00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:44.920 to go. You just you paced yourself. You've spaced it out just right. 522 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:50.599 And sure enough, Joe Schmoe from Lightning one hundred has moved the mic, 523 00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:54.480 except the only cat that that did not do that was Cole. Bob 524 00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:58.800 Cole never moved the mic from where the singer had it. Oh yeah, 525 00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:00.880 why would you do that? I say what' saying? Yeah, they don't 526 00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:04.679 know, they don't know any better. You don't mess with that. They 527 00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:07.760 move it for them. And then you go, here's my big hit record 528 00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:12.199 and you're not gonna hear it first half the first verse, the local jocks, 529 00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:15.639 somebody messed it up. But Lee, you don't think about that. 530 00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:20.679 But then like you get to a level where's something like George nobody touches his 531 00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:24.960 mic. That's his Yeah, it's professional. Course. Again, before we 532 00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:28.480 leave, we want to plug the new album, which comes out again May 533 00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:35.840 seventeenth, twelve oh one a m The Texas Trio the Texas Trio dot com 534 00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:37.760 and listen because I hope you guys do release date here at this spoke. 535 00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:44.960 I think it's just natural. It's it's billed as the Texas trio featuring country 536 00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:50.280 artist Kyle Park, two time Grammy Award winner Jason Roberts, and keyboardist John 537 00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:53.159 Michael Whitby from George Strait Sason the whole man. So that's a long marquee 538 00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:57.039 right there. That's a hell of a T shirt. Nobody says that it 539 00:35:57.079 --> 00:36:01.360 is a long T shirt. So you say Texas treeover any guy's got long 540 00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:07.360 sleeves put that name. Fantastic. We're excited about about this project for sure, 541 00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:10.440 years years taking years to it. We can't wait to hear it. 542 00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:14.199 In fact, I listened to it on the way back to Cedar Park. 543 00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:19.199 Give you my opinion, Red Stiegall, I love bad Luck Cowboy Jason Kyle 544 00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:22.119 wrote that one. That's great, So yeah, man, I love the 545 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:24.800 fact that you got some Benny tunes on here too. Yeah, hot Headed 546 00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:30.039 Honey that he wrote for his wife years and years ago, and that's a 547 00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:36.679 that's a you know, uh uplifting, it's uh I don't know, funny 548 00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:40.360 as the word, but it's an entertaining song. So that fits fits certain 549 00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:45.320 people's personalities that can try to sing that song. And then there's what other 550 00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:51.039 one is there on there? Naomi Yes, Naomi which Jason ended up singing 551 00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:53.199 that I like that song a lot. It's a ROADI you know, Cal 552 00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:59.960 It's about a cow girl, you know, now my Now, My Naomi 553 00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:06.000 and Shining Way. Yes. So it's thank you for something by Today and 554 00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:08.679 lit'st If people want to get a hold of you, just just look me 555 00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:12.559 up. You can find out. You can't swing up the cat without hitting 556 00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:15.960 you man, everything everything it's people think they're hidden, but they're not. 557 00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:21.840 So you can just google that John whatever you need, one of the nicest 558 00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:24.599 guys, and he'll next time. He'll be back soon. But the next 559 00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:29.159 time we're gonna have Kyle and Jason you too, So that'd be fun. 560 00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:32.880 It'd be fantastic, little picking a little tails. Broken Spoke continues next week. 561 00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:37.760 Tales from the Broken Spoke is recorded live at The Broken Spoke in Austin, 562 00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:43.880 Texas, hosted by Country Radio Hall of Fame broadcaster Bob Pickett and Monty 563 00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:47.519 Warden, recorded mixed down and produced by Mike Rivera