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Yeah now and nowgrated noise and in all media shuck o'lly. May seventeen,
twenty twenty four. Allegedly, according to that thing we call a calendar,
this the Ocelli Effect, going live early on a friar's day. So it's
just after seven pm Eastern time, and you know, normally on this show
we would often cover the news of the day, this kind of thing.
But tonight I'm going live an hour early. I do have phones open,
uh, but I don't expect anybody to call in because it's sort of a
surprise show. I think I posted on Twitter x whatever and also on Facebook,
but anyway, who knows who pays attention there and how badly shadow band
I am. So probably nobody saw it, but if you went in the
live chatroom at Ocelli dot com you might have seen it. Anyway, let's
get to the business at hand before we get to your completely unscheduled, unscripted
calls at eight pm Eastern. What do I have to discuss this evening?
Well, we could, we could open it all up and get into it
deeply and go into the news of the day if you wanted to, how
about that the Israeli Army finds bodies of three hostages in Gaza, killed at
the October seven music festival. Apparently, all right, let's see a video
has been released and spread out in the media and is making the rounds.
The video appears to show Diddy Sean Puffy Combs beating singer Casey in a hotel
hallway in twenty sixteen, and a man the man convicted of attacking Nancy Pelosi's
husband with the hammer, Remember the hammer guy who was in his underwear and
all that weirdness that went on. Well, apparently, according to multiple headlines
across AP, Washington Post, et cetera, et cetera, I think most
of them originating with the AP story. The first line reads, the man
convicted attempting to kidnap then house speaker Nancy Pelosi and attacking her husband, Paul
Pelosi, with a hammer, was sentenced Friday to thirty years in prison,
thirty years for the hammer attack. That weirdness that we saw out there.
Are we going to go into this news No? Instead, I want to
dedicate the majority of this hour to somebody of interest. I mean, we
could go right on over the rather interesting story of Senator Bob Menendez in his
trial, because it is the year of the lawsuit. After all, we
could go over that, we could discuss the Trumpster and his courtroom appearances,
c et cetera, et cetera. But how about we just take a little
listen to a newsclip here. Let's see where's this from. I'm not sure,
but let's see. While his trial began this week in New York,
Nadine Menendez's trial date was postponed due to medical concerns that were undisclosed until Thursday.
At tentative date for her trial had been set for July, but it
remains unclear she will have recovered from her treatment by that time. This according
to Politico and an article which is titled, first of all, it's under
the New Jersey subheadline, Nadine Menendez, co defendant in Senator Bob Menendez's bribery
trial, diagnosed with advanced breast cancer. But meanwhile, what has also come
out of this news this week is that Senator Bob there says, you know,
the key to the closet with all the gold bars and all that stuff,
his wife had control of it. He didn't even know about it.
So maybe he's trying to toss the wife at least partially under the bus.
Kind of interesting. The Democratic senator from Jersey, I don't know. Can
I play a clip here? Maybe I can play a clip here, let's
try. This is a reporter's badgering the couple as they come out, Bob
Menendez and Dean on their way out of court. Uh Thursday, I guess,
so, I guess that's yesterday? No today? Okay, coming out
of court today? Are you riding again? You write every really fight around
a rich could all do? About the guys? I don't want the way
you lawyers just telling people to get the hell out of the way, et
cetera, standard, et cetera, et cetera. And uh yeah, him
not answering the questions as they're asking him if he's going to run again and
all that. So that's what the audio clip was there. Do I want
to cover all this news for you? Maybe, but not today. Maybe
we'll cover it some on the Friday night show and you can join us at
three one nine, five two seven five zero one six. If you don't
want to join me for the open mic, perhaps you'll want to join me
for what will be the focus of this hour, which is a gentleman who
passed a a couple of days ago as I speak to you, and here
it is a report from a Pittsburgh, PA TV channel, looks like ABC
twenty seven in Pittsburgh, and I'll just play the clip for you and then
we'll get into the rest of what I have to discuss for this evening before
eight pm and the open mic live show starts. Doctor Cyril Wett of Pittsburgh,
who may be the most famous pathologist in US history, has died at
the age of ninety three. As a pathologist, Wegck helped investigate the disappearance
of Jean Benny Ramsey and the death of Thomas Presley and Michael Jackson. He
most famously participated in the investigation of the assassination of JFK. Weck never did
believe this single bullet theory. Weck was also elected corner and assistant District Attorney
in Alleghany County, Okay. A couple of things they missed from his obituary,
so I will turn around and cover them for you and also place obituary
in the live chatroom at O'Kelly dot com, because I think it is a
sad, sad day that we have lost somebody who did make a great many
efforts to reveal truth to the public about a lot of crimes, some of
his revelations and all of that. I mean, I questioned over the years,
etc. But nobody could deny that the guy was an absolute hero all
the way from the nineteen sixties to now regarding the Kennedy assassination and this sixty
year journey that the public has been on ever since they started telling us live
out of Dallas that Kennedy was shot, Oswald did it. The whole weekend
closes out with Oswald dying and then of course the national funeral and all that
Weck had questions seemingly from then participated in the Garrison trial and his participation not
just being a naysayer and a conspiracy theorist as that TV news report seemed to
represent. There was a lot more to them. Let's see if they did
any better the obituary in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette. Let's go to that.
And as I said, I do have the live Chatroommetowchelli dot com. I
do believe I posted the link to what I'm about to read to you from
there, and it will be in the show notes as well, because we'll
make this a separate podcast from the normal Friday Night Melee anyway. Reading from
the Post Gazette obituary, Cyril Harrison weckt, a long time and occasionally polarizing
fixture in Alleghany County politics whose forensic expertise was sought in thousands of cases,
from that of a slain US president and another involving a murdered beauty queen,
to nursing home debts and industrial accidents, died Monday. He was ninety three.
From the cloth of a bygone political era, doctor We's flair and unwillingness
to mince words made him what many considered a larger than life figure in Pittsburgh
and in legal, medical, and political worlds. Quote to me, Cyril
always had sort of a veneer of immortality. It seemed like he would never
die. He was always larger than life, said Jerry McDevitt, a friend
and attorney who represented doctor Weck during a criminal trial in the two thousands.
In a way, he was immortal because of what he's done, because of
his life, his career. He's one of the leading figures in Pittsburgh history.
Quote he just lived a life that's the envy of everybody. Quote end
quote. He said. The pathologist a pioneer when he went into the field
in the nineteen sixties. Conducted more than twenty thousand autopsies during his career and
consulted on postmortem exams for another forty thousand. He wrote dozens of books and
hundreds of other professional publications, and he continued his speaking engagements well into the
last years of his life. He was the first civilian to examine the evidence
in the assassination of John F. Kennedy. He believed that John Benet Ramsay's
father killed her, but it was an accident. He opined that Elvis Presley
died of an overdose. Now I'm going to pause from the article here,
first civilian to examine the evidence in the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
Not so certain that that's true. His examination of the medical evidence took place
in nineteen seventy two. I know this just you know this is not from
the articles for me. Took place in nineteen seventy two, after several years
of requesting Burke Marshall, who was the gatekeeper attorney for the Kennedy family that
would only allow researchers with legitimate need and medical backgrounds to look at the medical
evidence. Took him until nineteen seventy two to get to actually see what is
in existence at the National Archives under the geed of deed of gift. Excuse
me left by missus Kennedy. Anyway, Let's get back to this obituary.
That was his hobby, said Tim Urick, a friend and a longtime colleague.
Quote some people play golf. End quote. He would say, quote
this is my hobby. End quote. But doctor Weck also recommended charges against
a subcontractor involved in a project that killed an ironworker at the David L.
Lawrence Convention Center in two thousand and two. He held inquests into nursing home
debts and police shootings. Quote. He firmly believed in the concept of independent
medical legal investigations, and that was hard for a lot of people to accept.
End quote. Mister Uurrick said. Former Allegheny County executive Rich Fitzgerald offered
a simuler sentiment. Doctor Wex's roots were in this region and he never forgot
that. While Cyril achieved national fame because of his many high profile cases he
consulted on, he always called southwestern Pennsylvania home. Mister Fitzgerald said he was
born in Green County, grew up in the city, earned his bachelor and
medical degrees from the University of Pittsburgh, and he and his wife raised their
children here. Doctor Weck, a Green County native who grew up in the
McKees, Rocks and Pittsburgh's Hill District, is survived by his wife and children,
David, Daniel, Benjamin, and Ingrid. Funeral burial and shibba will
be private and a public memorial service will be announced in the future. So
there's more to that obituary, but a couple of things that they left out.
He was part of the official investigation regarding the House Select Committee on Assassinations.
He was part of the legal medical panel there, and you know,
there was some chicanery that took place regarding his ability to attend certain sessions during
the House Select Committee on Assassinations. He, as i said, got the
legal go ahead to visit with the medical evidence on file at the National Archives
under the Kennedy assassination. And indeed he consulted in a great many high profile
cases. Also the Duquane School of Legal Medicine is named this serial h.
Weck Institute. And I think all of those components are necessary and should have
been noted in this obituary, as opposed to taking the time to quote others
about the remarkable career of cerro Weck. But in addition, let's visit with
a few of Cyri Weck's words, And I'll begin with one of the earliest
things that anybody ever saw again publicly. He you know, actually testified in
the clay Shaw trial, and that was in I believe sixty nine. By
the time they got him on the stand, he was treated in a rather
interesting way anyway. Yeah, he was on CBSTV before that during their multiple
specials and broadcasts supporting the Warrent Commission. But they also had to show him
as the you know opposition, if you will, the legal medical opposition out
there. Here's a doctor that says, maybe this isn't exactly as they're stating
it to us regarding the magic bullet. Even before he got to see the
evidence, he pretty much nailed it. Now, was Cyril always exactly on
point about this? He asked the right questions early on. That's for damn
Shore and it had a lot to do with the way others would question it
later. It was also, you know, shown in just about every documentary
for probably the first forty years of the time since the assassination. I mean,
you know, including the CBS documentary. I don't remember if NBC invited
them. I don't remember if others had invited him, you know, in
the early or mid to late sixties, I don't remember that. But I
do know in the nineteen seventies and ever after, into the eighties and into
the nineties and into the two thousands, if you were assembling talking heads for
a documentary piece, a legitimate documentary piece, you almost certainly had to seek
out Cyril Weckt. And evidence of that, I'll tell you one of the
most again not necessarily most correct pieces of media ever created, but one of
the most thought provoking and remarkable revolutionary watershed if you will, regarding public sentiment
on the Kennedy assassination, was this thing they called The Men Who Killed Kennedy
multi part series, as presented in the United States by the History Channel,
and during the very opening of the show, if I remember correctly, and
I have a clip right here, and maybe I'll give you guys links to
the clips. Maybe I won't. Maybe we'll just play some of Cerial's words
as they were utilized in one of those documentaries. And again, this was
around the twentieth or twentieth between the twentieth and twenty fifth anniversary of the Kennedy
assassination, around the time that I actually begin to get active in the research
community. Well, doctor Weck had already been there twenty years, you know,
actually twenty five years. And he continued on, you know, let's
not forget the conferences at Duquane University at the serial WECT, the serial h
WECT, excuse me, school of law and medicine. But let's go back
in time a little. Remember who we're talking about, in case you're uninitiated,
in case you're one of my listeners who's not fully aware of every character
in the Kennedy assassination saga, the media and content that's out there. The
remarkable, remarkable individual who wrote, yes, like I said, many books,
who wrote many a text who gave lots of opinions, and was involved
in a lot of high profile cases quite often after the fact. Let's take
a listen to one of the earliest things that a lot of you might have
ever seen a clip from the Man who killed Kennedy. If it could be
done to John F. Kennedy in nineteen sixty three, it could be done
to another president in the future. And we can't afford to have coupdatas in
America. No matter how cleverly orchestrated and sinisterly contrived they may be. That
cannot be permitted to happen. And the way in which you prevent that from
happening is to expose those elements of government and society in this country that were
responsible for the killing of John F. Kennedy. Seth eloquent words inserted into
the documentary, and that's serial h wack. But let's go for a slightly
more extended piece of work. As a matter of fact, to two thousand
and three, at the fortieth anniversary, there was a gathering. I don't
remember if it was the first one. I don't remember how many they might
have had before, but to me this was remarkable, and I know this
caught the attention of many people in the research community. In two thousand and
three, at the fortieth anniversary, they held an event and that event went
on all weekend. A conference at Duquanne University regarding passing the torch onto the
next generation. And he even invited Arlen Spector, along with people like Walt
Brown, along with people like I believe David Mantick was present. You know,
all the names you could possibly think of, from Josiah Thompson on to
Jim de Eugenio who showed up with just if I remember correctly, a handful
of index cards. And thankfully this is available out there for purchase. I
mean, you can get this whole conference from that weekend. But the tail
end of his remarks, the keynote speech, at the very beginning of the
conference, I think is highly revealing and relevant. And I say again,
instead of looking at quotations from others or hearing Neo Pine about the impact and
importance of Cyril Weck, let's hear from Syria Weck. We talked about the
assassination and try to understand it, why it took place, and why it
might it have occurred. And may I point out to you again, if
you don't know history and you don't place something at the time that had occurred,
it's you know, it's like meaningless. Even an argument with your spouse,
the loss of a ballgame. Whatever. You got to know what the
facts were, what was going on, what was happening nationally internationally. Do
we have a real cold war with Russia where there's some people that wanted to
drop some atomic bombs even right after World War Two? You remember Admiral Crommelin
and General whatever his name was. I'll think of it that one of the
drop bombs in it was still we're talking about dropping atomic bombs on Russia,
just to you know, we'll teach them they better not make a move.
I think he meant to say le may. But look, I'm going to
continue on with his statement. I just want to point out that the idea
that he only talked about the magic bullet, and he only talked about,
you know, the stuff that he did at the mock trial that Bugliosi held,
and Bugliosi, you know, continuously mispronounced his name and badgered him a
bit and bullied him, as Bugliosi was likely to do. And even he
and Bugliosi attempted to be somewhat cordial to one another, or at least Cyril
did. I mean, Bugliosi was flatly a dick. But you know Cyril
Weckt was passionate, and I think you can hear the diverse tones in his
sentimentality here during this speech. So let's continue on with it. Now,
What if you had somebody maybe we ate it might be a little warming of
that Cold War Cuba, ninety miles away, Havana. Hey, maybe there
might be a little bit of a day talent here. Maybe you know,
we might work something odd. We've had dictators, we've dealt with them before,
usually right wing dictators. But maybe we could pick up a lefty two
won't kill us. And then how about the Vietnam War. It's beginning to
blossom and burgeon and there's loss and comebo to you. Hey, maybe we
might give that a second thought. Maybe we'll get the hell out of there
and come on back home and home. Yeah, hey, what about those
Jim Crow laws? What about all those blacks in the South that fought just
like white troops fought in World War Two and got killed? What about all
those blacks that can't go in the restaurants, can't go in the theaters.
When I went to Montgomery, Alabama, called into the Air Force in nineteen
fifty nine, I had intelligent young man of twenty nine thirty whatever, And
I still I couldn't believe you separate benches, separate water fountains, separate days
and entrances to the park and so on and so forth, And there were
things to deal with in America. Those were the things that were happening.
When you want to try to understand this case forensic science, John referred to
it. There was no DNA, but there was blood typing. There was
the ability to examine tissues and see what kinds of tissues they might be.
There were things that could be learned. We didn't you know, Conan Doyle
laid out a few things with Sherlock Holmes. We didn't wait for criminalistics to
evolve until there was a Henry Lee. There were some things going on back
in those years, etc. That could and should have been done. And
Henry Lely was present at that conference as well. I don't think he gave
such a stunning performance doctor Lee at the conference and all, but it was
what it was. Cyril had a lot of respect for Henry Lee. I'm
not sure what I always thought of Henry Lee, but again, you know,
it was it was interesting to behold. So I'm going to rewind this
just a little bit because I got a strange interruption there, But let's continue
on with Cyril's comments home. Yeah, hey, what about those Jim crow
lot blood typing. There was the ability to examine tissues and see what kinds
of tissues they might be. It's worthy to remind people also that, you
know, politically, doctor Weck was a figure in the Democratic Party in Pittsburgh,
but you know, not a Democrat like you see today, more of
a classic sort of Democrat that was a true believer and an idealist. He
seemed to have this idea that we could still correct everything that, you know,
there was a possibility of us being a little more evolved in all that
kind of thing. Not with the crazy, you know, insane mad scientists,
you know, making a boy and do a girl and all this kind
of nonsense, but I mean literal like the idea that justice could still be
served in America, we could still set things right, we could still live
according to you know, the Constitution as individuals protected by it and protected by
the spirit of it, which is not granted by the government but is literally
granted by virtue of your creation. You know, that kind of thing.
He was also Yeah, chairman of the Democratic Party. I believe in Pittsburgh
or in Alleghany there coroner long time, this and that, and at one
point they even tried to destroy him professionally. They went after him in a
court case and really really just about bankrupted them. And still he held these
conferences, by the way, which are highly remarkable and extremely astute, and
even sometimes you could apply for college credits based as part of Pennsylvania's continuing education
adult education programs and things like that. You could have college credits if you
wanted your time at his conferences converted into them and all that. But again
as a public figure, still astounding the contribution he made speaking, showing up,
going everywhere from the six Floor Museum to different debates, to doing radio
shows, et cetera, et cetera. And a guy who you know,
had a living had a solid set circumstance in his local situation, probably could
have ignored all this, probably could have kept his mouth shut. But he
was also again involved in the high profile cases. People would call on him
a lot more often than Michael Bodden, who led that stupid HSCA panel that
they begrudgingly allowed to participate on. But he was part of the House Select
Committee again, the Medical panel. So let's go back to his comments again
from two thousand and three at Duquine University opening up one of the JFK symposiums
that they had. There were things that could be learned. We didn't,
you know, Conan Doyle laid out a few things with Charlock Holmes. We
didn't wait for criminalistics to evolve until there was a Henry Lee. There were
some things going on back in those years, et cetera, that could and
should have been done, and there are things that still could be done today.
Talk about the single bullet, and I deliberately am not showing my slides.
We'll get into all of that in the next three days and so on.
But there were experiments done then and there are experiments that could still be
done today. Oh bullets can do this fine? Is that right? My
favorite slide, which I definitely will show with this conference sometime. My favorite
slide is that composite picture where they firing three in using three sets of targets,
cotton watting goat carcasses fracturing one rib to simulate Connley's rib fracture, human
cadavers shooting through the RADII to simulate Conolly's radial fracture. They then selected the
representative bullet from each of those three categories to support their case. A beautiful
slide. There is commissioned Exhibit three ninety nine in all of its grandeur.
And you got the two bullets that went into the cotton watting striking nothing,
and you'll see the extrusion of some lead from the base from the impact of
the firing mechanism. The bullet that broke one rib of a goat looks wider
and flatter, you say at first glance, Hey, that's a different caliber
ammunition. Uh uh, it's distorted. And then the bullet that broke one
radius and the human cadaver has the typical mushrooming, peeling back effect. That's
the slide. They won't repeat that experiment. Professor John Nichols, mythologist at
University of Kansas Medical School, he did this clandestinely. He got exactly the
same results. That experiment could be done tomorrow repeatedly. Well, here from
my beloved friend and distinguished colleague, Michael Biden. We'll hear then what the
response is. Maybe Michael has a surprise for me. Okay, So he's
going to talk about Michael Bobden appearing at this conference as well, which I
find remarkable. Again, you know, a guy who supports the whole Oswald
did it, but with the help of the mob somehow. Yeah, all
that good stuff. And James Starrs even goes in there. I think it's
doctor Stars suggesting that maybe an exhumation of jfk could reveal a great deal.
And it could true. Plus, you know the ever nagging question of what
the hell happened to John F. Kennedy's brain. Sirah Weck is responsible for
that resonating question in my mind. Anyway, back to his opening comments here,
and I'm not going to play them all. I just want to give
you guys a full sense of where Sarah was act, you know, twenty
years ago on this and up until the day he died. I'm certain the
same sentiment prevailed, although it might not have sounded quite as strong twenty years
later, you know, more recently at ninety three. But anyway, continuing
in nineteen seventy eight, I said to my eight colleagues, Yeah, it
was eight to one, as Michael pointed out upstairs in the news media,
it was eight to one, and I said at that time, Okay,
you guys are very good, all board certified experience forensic fologists. You've done
thousands of autopsies. I would say probably collectively among the eight of you,
you got one hundred thousand autopsies in place and at your offices from your distinguished
colleagues and predecessors. You may have a quarter of a million more. And
you can go to Europe and Asian Africa and reach out. You'll bring back
to me one bullet, not one percent, not one hundredth not one thousands,
one bullet that has ever done. Would you claim this bullet did that
was twenty five years ago. Well, I'm still waiting for that present.
I'm still waiting for that bullet twenty five years later. And so, my
friends, where are we? And why are we there? Where are we?
Is here at this wonderful convocation with all of these great experts, and
we're going to learn a lot, And why are we here? Well,
we're here. Even those who believe the Warrant Commission was right. I hope
they would be strong enough in their professionalism to say, hey, there are
some unanswered questions. Yeah, we make that quantum leap despite the inadequate and
ut ridiculous autopsy, not recognizing a bullet hole in the front of the President's
neck, thinking that a bullet could be forced out back through a seven by
four millimeter hole in the back when an external carda massage pressure is a applied
to the front of the chest. The next day, thinking that a bullet
traveling twenty one hundred feet per second, going through six inches of soft tissue
in the neck would see the starch white call of the President get frightened to
death and pop absolutely dead right in his tracks. And then five months later
that bullet, now having been reinvigorated and having been restored with full vibrancy and
energy, now has picked itself up out of the front of his clothing,
gone through colleagues, has gone through colonies rusks, and in the colonies left
thigh. It's a hell of a bullet. It is, indeed the magic
bullet. It happily and readily accommodates you whatever you need and whatever point in
time it will do that for you. And I hope that my colleagues even
and my friends and others on that side will recognize that, yes, there
are things that still can be done. Let's put an end to this stuff
then, so there won't be a fiftieth anniversary, and we'll show once and
for all the critic researchers that we got it right. But to those of
us who are among the eighty to eighty five percent of the American public,
they continue consistently to reject the Warran Commission report. Yes, despite all of
the establishments. News media people, despite their Dan Rathers and the Peter Jennings,
the people whose careers and reputations bloomed and blossomed and emanated from their coverage
in those years, they're not about to back off from there. These are
news media megalomaniacs, ego centric people to the ultimate degree. They're going to
choke and swallow and renig and rescind on that. Yeah, sure, you
wait for hellifreeze over before that will ever happen. Okay, those people,
despite them, and they're continuing efforts to show last nights, to show that's
going on right now as we are here gathered once again attempting to whitewash.
And you want to know something, it's not going to make any difference.
Eighty to eighty five percent of the Americans, including the high school kids who
are here tonight are going to continue to reject the Warrant Commission. Is that
heart science? No, it's not heart science. But you tell me how
many subjects you can think of America that I have eighty to eighty five percent
of Americans consistently, repeatedly over decades voting the same way, Black, White,
North, South, Catholic, Protestant, jew North, you name it,
South, whatever religion, whatever group you name it. There aren't eighty
five percent of people who think that baseball is a good sport. There aren't
eighty five percent of people who think that sex is a good idea. And
you got eighty five percent. So it is there, and all of the
apologists are not going to make it go away. See what's remarkable about this
is he's commenting and responding to the media blitz that was already going on that
weekend supporting the magic bullet theory, supporting the Warren Commission, supporting the Will.
They might have gotten some things wrong, but overall, we know Oswald
is the guilty party. Period. We know it. We know it for
certain. As a matter of fact, Arlen Spector famously was going around during
this conference and telling the news media, the gather media that were there for
press conferences and stuff. I think it was on the second floor. You
know, it's not a magic bullet theory anymore. It's a magic bullet fact.
This is what happened. That's all there is to it. All of
this stuff you're about to see, all this weekend, all of anything else,
all the questions, they're not relevant because we had the facts in nineteen
sixty four when we presented them to Lyndon Baines Johnson, then President, that
President's Commission on the assassination of his predecessor, the previous president. Right,
we called the Warrant Commission. More fairly, it should be called the dullest
commission anyway. Continuing with Cyril's comments, and why can't we then allow it
to go away? I'll tell you why my thought in closing, because it
was in chest a murder, as was pointed out upstairs by Roger Feinman and
Guy and many as it pointed it out. And you all know this,
of course, but maybe some of the younger people and non lawyers don't realize
there's no statute limitations on homicide. Well even then, you say, hey,
but aren't there unsolved murders, Yes there are, but not of presidents,
not of presidents, of you and me and of our neighbors and our
friends and our relatives. Yes, but not of presidents. Okay, so
as a president was an important man, but so what so? What of
it is? We know, my friends? And it came to be known
darn soon that the Russians and the Chinese and the Cubans individually collectively did not
orchestrate this assassination. The plans did not emanate, did not spring from the
fertile Macavelian malevolent minds of the people in Moscow, in Beijing and Havana.
It came to me known, darn soon that Americans were behind this. That's
painful, very very painful. Indeed, where do you go? What doors
do you knock upon? What rooms do you enter? And what are you
going to find as you walk into those edifices? Do we want to go
that way? Oswald's dead. He's been executed by Jack Ruby. It's all
over. This guy two and a half years in Russia, communist sympathizer,
not a very likable person. It's over. Man Johnson wants that report.
Get it in, hurry up, finish it, wrap it up smoothly.
Do you think for one moment whatever any of us here tonight may think about
Jaigar Hoover And I know what ninety percent of us probably think about Jackar Hoover
and about Lyndon Johnson. Were they're two more knowledgeable, politically savvy, powerful
individuals in America? Is there anything in America that if they wanted to find
out, they could not have found out? If Jericho Whover wanted to find
out how many times you had sex with your wife, how many times you
went to the bathroom, whether you carry your lunch to work, I guarantee
you he would have put on sixty or one hundred FBI agents and he would
have found out. My point simply is, well, I don't believe in
my critic research, your friends, one or more of them may believe otherwise.
I don't believe that Hoover or Johnson had anything to do with the primary
conspiracy. Jill Kill Kennedy. Do I believe that they came to know everything
later on? You bet your life there's no way in the world that those
two people would not have come to know. But that was not the time
to get into things, because who knows who was responsible, and maybe you
think you know, and maybe we'll come to learn a little bit more in
the next three days. That's not exactly our purpose, but what our purpose
is is to seek truth, to seek justice, and to come to know
and to recognize what happened on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three. Okay,
So with that, I'm gonna pause. There's a couple of callers on
the line, and if you want to join in on this conversation before we
kick into the regular call in show, I have open lines three one nine,
five, two seven five zero one six. And the thing is that
you know, in a few minutes here, let's see what time is it.
Uh Yeah, in about twenty minutes, you can talk about anything you
want. But if you're calling in now and you're on the line now,
I want comments about Zero Wet and his impact on the Kennedy assassination, because
this is a separate presentation to just pay respect to a guy who definitely added
to our base of knowledge, definitely contributed to the base of knowledge for thousands
of other people, and you know, so on so three one nine,
five, two seven five zero one six, I will allow you to come
on and talk about serre wact for now until we get to the open mic
show where you can talk about anything you want. So it looks like I
might have Jimmy James online. Jimmy, is that you, yes, sir,
so, like I said, anything you want to discuss regarding serial whact
right now, but in about twenty minutes we'll have you know, open open
for him. Good. Well, yes, that's for sure what I wanted
to call in about. Of course, it's a huge loss to the community.
Uh. The man was truly genius. I mean right, I mean
in any sense of the word. He truly was a genius. And uh
boy, this is probably the biggest hit to the community since the passing of
Mark Lane. I don't know, it's the top one. I mean,
he's been omni present since I even became interested in this case, this assassination.
He's always been there, right, and now he's not. And that's
not a good feeling for me or I'm sure anyone else in the community,
especially those who knew him personally, and even more so for his family,
Ben and all of them. I'm just sorry to hear this passing. And
I mean we got all those yeah, I mean Jimmy. Look, we
gotta be honest. I mean, the guy was ninety three. It's not
like, you know, nobody's gonna run around saying there's some conspiracy regarding his
death or anything. He was older. This is the way it was.
But you know, truly sixty years ago, this guy got involved right away,
and he was on CBSTV as one of the few people going, wait
a minute, I got questions, you know, in the sixty seven reports.
I remember he was definitely part of that. He participated testified in the
Shaw trial, right he showed up anywhere just about anybody asked him to,
you know, to speak about this, to talk about it, and a
lot of the points that he brings up during these opening remarks are exactly the
same points I guess what he made for decades. And like I said,
they didn't even mention in the obituary that he was part of the House Select
Committee on Assassinations. You know, it's it's wild, it's remarkable. And
here's a guy who certainly could have had his life set and just had been
a local fixture and had been you know, part of the Pittsburgh thing,
and still had that law school named after him, and everything else, but
he continued to do this. I don't know what Ben, because Ben is
mainly the son that's involved, you know, with Duquine and the serial h
weckt, you know, school of Legal Medicine. And I don't know if
there'll be more conferences. I don't know, but I hope so, and
I hope things continue on in his name. And no matter who you are,
whether you agreed with him or you thought he was, you know,
dead on point about everything, or you didn't like if he came out during
you know, this or that controversy, whatever, nobody could deny that this
guy contributed to the overall knowledge base and inspired a whole lot of people to
dig into things that they would have never attempted had he not started the ball
rolling and talking about the forensic pathological areas here the legal medical part of this,
the let's talk about the ballistics, let's talk about the wounds, let's
talk about all that stuff. And like I said, it took him until
nineteen seventy two to even get into the National Archives to see the medical eviden
collection. Right. He applied for years and years and didn't get in there
until seventy two. And another key thing is that, you know what,
when people would always ask what happened to the brain? What happened to the
brain? Well, you know, I think Sarah Weck started asking that question
probably around the time I was born, because seventy two, same year he
got into the National Archives is precisely the year that I was born. So
there you have it. I don't know how anybody could deny the impact.
It is a very sad thing, and absolutely I think that this is a
gigantic hole now in the research community that I don't know if anybody will actually
be able to fill it. But I'm hoping that some people step up and
try to, you know, to fill that gap that is now left by
this man who did this for again more than half a century. And I
tend to think you agree with me, Jimmy. Yeah, well Jimmy might
have hung up, but that's okay. And you know what, I'm gonna
go back to Cyril's comments here and close this out before we get to the
regular open mic. I think this is absolutely necessary to pay tribute to Cyril
Weck, and I think the best way again is to just play you a
little bit of some of the things that were recorded from his own mouth.
There's no better way to go, and you could find just go ahead,
go on YouTube, go on whatever you want, and just type in Cyril
Weck JFK, or if you want, take a look at what he had
to say about John Binay Ramsey, take a look at what he had to
say about Michael Jackson, take a look about what he had to say about
Michael Brown, any of that stuff. Go ahead, through it all.
And I didn't agree with him always, and thought to myself that sometimes maybe
Cyril should have stayed out of certain things. But the man went out there
and made his statements. And you know how many of you would tackle a
law and medicine right as a dual discipline. Not too many. Was he
a genius Jimmy's right. He was man, big, big hole in the
JFK research community. With Sirah Weck having passed away on Monday, I believe
they reported anyway, let's give him the final words on this. What happened,
my friends, was simply the assassination of a president, a president who
was so powerful, so charismatic, wealthy connected. There was no way in
the world that he could be defeated at the polls. And I don't speak
as a Democrat. This is not the purpose of this symposium. We know
that there are people to the right and people to the left, and this
is a mixed bag on this whole Kennedy assassination. There's no one particular political
group that lines up one way or another. The point simply is that that
was one kind of politics, five more years of which were to follow with
Jack and eight more years of which were to be followed by Bobby Kennedy.
And if you were not of a mind to see the kinds of changes that
maybe could be anticipated, whether they would have come to fruition or not,
I don't know. You'll hear from people who are more historical scholars than I
whether or not they would have been a warming with Russia, whether it would
have been a day time with Cuba, whether they would have been a withdrawal
from Vietnam. The point is it could have been reasonably anticipated over those next
thirteen years. And it wasn't a ballgame. You weren't going to sit back
and say, hey, they're up at bat. Wait do we get up
there? Man, You'll see how many runs we score. No way in
the world was that going to be allowed. There was only one way to
bring back the kind of America that you believe should exist, and not the
kind of America not down that windy, treacherous road that Jack Kennedy and his
brother Bobby were leading us. And the execution is what is necessary because there
is no other way. And the assassination of the president was the overthrow of
the government, and my friends the world over what it has been known and
called and labeled everywhere, but in America, it was a coup'tas That's what
happened in America, and that is why we must still find out, if
it takes another forty years what happened on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three.
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