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Welcome back to it Broncos Country tonight. Benjamin O. Albright, Nick Ferguson,

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Grant Smith here with you back from
the NFL Combine. Had a good

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time out there. I talk about
about that. Cobby is still going allbro

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on the events and all that kind
of stuff. Now, we had Nate

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Wiggins running four to two seven or
four two nine, excuse me, four

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two nine smoking, smoking, fastest
thing cooking. Of course, he popped

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a groin or hip flex or something
during that run. But he did run

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a four two nine at the at
the combine. But you know what,

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I always used to tea he's a
champ about that because he used to pull

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his hamstring or tweak his hamstring a
lot. And I was like, you

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know what that only did he tweak
his hamstring or do he tweak his hamstring?

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Well, why you give me air
quotes. I don't even know what

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that means. That means week his
hamstring. I'm done with practice for today,

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So my hamstring has been tweaked.
You know what, I'm experiencing lower

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back pain. Now, I would
say you're wrong. It could have been

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a combination of both. But I
would always tell him, man, that

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only happens to those uber fast guys. I was like, you don't see

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John and I pulling hamstrings? No, you know, so hey, it's

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one of those byproducts of like being
being a cheatah and known as though the

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cheat is one of the fastest animals
on the planet. But they're going to

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hold their speed for a short period
of time. And the one thing I

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hear when I hear guys run fast
forties, all that means is that you

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just have the foot speed to catch
up. Hell you beat, That's all

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that means. I mean, that
is one way to look at it.

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I look at it, you know, especially when we have you know,

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like defensive tackles running the forty and
I'm like, you know, what's the

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last time a defensive tackle ran forty
yards? Shelby Harris's chased down Tyreek Hilt

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Like, I mean, well,
first of all, it reminds me back

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to bum philis to have the conditioning
girls or whatever. Eral Campbell or not

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real Cambell. What's his name that
Eric Dickerson, I think it was whatever

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it was, No Earl Campbell,
you Campbada And he said, you know,

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they failed a one mile conditioning test
or whatever, and he'sai. Well,

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I guess if it's third of a
mile, I won't have it too

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exactly. Well, does this be
totally honest about this man? I mean,

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if you are a D line in
the great once again, you look

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at the split. You want that
guy, uh to be able to show

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that he has quick explosion out of
his stance. That's great. But if

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you have four guys across your D
line, and I know it sounds great,

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if those guys are running like a
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means that you expect to get gashed
on every single play because they always in

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Chase Mote. Yeah. By the
way, Terry and Arnold widely considered one

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of the best corners in this class, was over four to five. Well,

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okay, let me tell the honest. Now, there's some guys who

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are more quicker than fast, right, we do, we do? There's

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usually there's usually a distinctive feature about
those guys. Nick, I don't know

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what you're talking about. I don't
know what he's talking about. I understand

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some guys are more quicker than fast. Uh huh right, right, So

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wet a lot of receivers like that, real uh? Wes Welker, Yes,

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as many corners, not as many
corners. You get slot receiver types,

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but we can't have quarterbacks. But
that's the stuff, yeah, because

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here's what you're trying to evaluate.
If a guy runs a forty, does

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he play with that sable speed?
Because we know that players have an opportunity

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to train is just do good track
fast football. There you And that's why

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the right, that's why the GPS
sensors and that kind of data is so

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valuable now and teams harvest that.
They're not really looking at forty times much

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anymore because everybody harvests the GPS data
and looks at how fast somebody is on

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the field and pads. Yes,
that's the only thing that matters. Because

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I've been around a lot of guys
who were fast as far as the three

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cones drew the forty yard gass because
they were track guys, especially in high

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school and college. So they are
built and they know how to pass that

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specific test. But when you turn
on the tape, that guy may have

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run a four too at the combine, but he's running a four to six

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on tape. Something's not matching up. So you're asking yourself, okay,

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well, which one is the true
guy, is it the guy that was

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a weekend a workout warrior rather,
and he built himself into this point where

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he could run the fast forty Because
we're not seeing replicated on the field.

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That's what we have to be.
We have to take these forty times and

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I know we ooh and ah,
well, we had to take them sometimes

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with a grain of salt and kind
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with the film. Right. I
think one of the greatest examples of that

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is Jerry Rice. Right, four
six four seven one forty was I thought

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it was four six four seven to
one, which, by the way,

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which to put that in perspective,
would have ranked dead last for every linebacker

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at the Combine last year. If
they did the simulcast video, he would

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be like, really really in the
back. He would be way way in

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the back. Just don't throw the
slant. Well, I'm just throwing the

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slang. But Jerry Rice obviously had
decent speed. He obviously had pull away

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speed. And it's not like everybody
in the league was just slower back then.

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I mean, the game is fast
now and there are a lot of

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fast guys now, but it's not
like everybody was. You know that there

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was there was plenty of I mean, Darryl Green was. I'm just saying

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that guy was probably faster than anybody
playing the game to day. There were

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plenty of guys back then that were
fast. Okay, he was fast and

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not in his thirties. Yeah,
Henry Ellert was a guy who was fast

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in his late thirties. That's as
God given speed man. That was.

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I mean just saying like, there
are plenty of guys like you know we

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have. Somebody was talking about this
on the radio. I listened to it

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when we were in uber in India
and I heard it and the guy was

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talking about, Yeah, we we
had this problem. We have this arrogance

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in our current generation where we presume
that previous generations weren't as smart as us

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just because we have technological capabilities that
they didn't, which oftentimes I would say

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is the opposite of the case,
because they were finding more creative ways to

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circumvent their problems because they didn't have
the convenience right. But we do the

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same thing with football. We have
this inherent arrogance where we assume that we're

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bigger, stronger, and faster now
and because of nutrition, there is some

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truth to that, right, because
of the new nutrition and the optimization of

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the body, all the stuff that
we do now, there's some truth to

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that. The the reality is those
guys back then, we're pretty big and

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fast too. Yeah, and they
were doing it without the updated advances and

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technology. You think about the shoes, from the aerodynamic gear that you wear

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that's supposed to grip closer to your
body and get to win. Those guys

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didn't have that. So for me, I know when we look at guys

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who are coming out now, remember
John Ross, I was gonna use him

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as an example. I'll never forget
when he when he and I was like,

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man, this dude can't play though, like I watched him. I

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was like, I would absolutely have
him on my four by one team,

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but that's not what you had.
But I'm not there's no you know,

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I'm absolutely gonna draft this guy in
my Madden League because he's gonna rub I

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can have him run straight lines down
the field. But I've watched the tape.

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But see that's what the late Al
Davis, that's what he wanted.

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He wanted those. The Raiders track
team was phenomenal. The Raiders football team

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stunk. The Raiders track team you
know, was win an Olympic gold.

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But this once again, this is
why when you are evaluating talent, make

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sure that you fine tune exactly what
you're looking for. I know we typically

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think about the forties and the bitch
press as benchmarks and player evaluation, but

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you have to peel back layers to
go a little deeper than that, because

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there are certain wide receivers who are
straight line guys. Like when you think

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about DK maykhef he blew up the
combine, big massive guy. I mean,

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yes, but he is definitely a
straight line guy in the hips.

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Even now I think DK is in
it going into his sixty year maybe something

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like that. He still doesn't know
how to run every route on the route

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treet where he has to sink his
heels and get right to cut. He

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ain't that con He's not put him
on the deep over because it's rounded out,

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and you know, they put him
on the fly and they put him

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on like a surrounded out post,
you know, kind of round. They'll

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put him on those routes because you
know he's I mean, he's just not

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as quick twitch. You know,
he used to differ in the hips when

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he's a massive human being. He's
ridiculously built with nobody facus. I'm insanely

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jealous, but I'm not mad at
him. I mean, right, but

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if you look at it from a
defensive standpoint, you were telling your guys,

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Okay, well we're gonna send on
some of his routes because he's not

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going to you know, those in
breaking routes, and we know exactly what

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he wants to do. All right. He's gonna run the go route,

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He's probably gonna run maybe the post
route. And if he runs a dig,

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rock jump it right now because you
know he's going to top chop,

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top chop chop before he gets into
that break, right, Like, Yeah,

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we got DK out there. We're
probably running either you know, bang

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eight, bang nine screen or deep
over like probably you might have him on

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the dig, like you said,
but you know what, you know what

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you're getting if he's doing that,
right, you know. So, I

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mean, it's it's it's it's more
than just your straight line speed time on

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a forty yard And that's why this
GPS data they use is One thing it

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was great about being out there is
I didn't hear anything about that. Stupid

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s two test. You know,
the wondering if this is a replacement,

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it's the predictor of all predictors.
And then c J. Stroud scores the

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lowest on it and goes out there
and smokes competition. Now do you think

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that was all because of the c
J. Stroud situation and more agents are

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telling their players not to participate in
that aspect of the evaluation. I think

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it was because the data got leaked
on c J. Stroud and you had

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it a glaring example of why we
don't want the data leaked. And then

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you know, like athletes first is
having all their classes not take him,

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refuse to take him. So I
mean, you know I that test,

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like what is that telling me?
You know, because it certainly wasn't a

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predicted last I've got the scores,
I've got the data. But Kirk Cousins,

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I think he's doing the promo right
now where he swears by it.

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Yeah, well a championship again exactly
in the indication that the test actually works.

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I mean, Primetime Games is he
won. Kirk Cousins puts up the

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stand like Kirk Cousins is a fan
like that. I know the machine.

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I know this because it was fantasy
quarter That was the name of your fantasy

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team against cousins. Yes, yes, And how did that work out for

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you? Well, he got hurt
in the middle of the year, thank

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you. There it is. And
then then Ryan got a chance to do

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take a victory lap over you a
kind of he may have kind of walking.

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There was a little celebrate. Okay, it was a struck. Yeah,

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I was the regular season champ with
the most points. And then the

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playoffs happened, and it said and
it hurts, yes, you know speak

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of Jerry Rice. By the way, his son Brendan Rice. Yeah,

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the combine. Yes, made a
joke about him beating his dad's forty times.

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He appreciated that. You see Caleb
Williams crashing his presser. Camelin Win's

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course was his quarterback at usc You
got that, you got sound right?

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Yeah? I got a question.
How did the house photo Jr? Son?

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I have another question after man,
it feels better to be a teammate

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of Caleb Williams, right, all
right, right. My second question is

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I'm coming back to this guy.
Why should they drive was a fantasy player?

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Should you be a wide receiver,
barn you know, should you be

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a flex player. You know me
you well, we have forty five catches

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in tilta yeah, something like that. Man had a pretty damn good quarterback.

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You never nice to have that.
I thought it was funny, Caleb

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Williams kind of you know, kind
of going over there to help his help

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his dude out. I thought it
was good energy. Caleb Williams's presser got

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off to a weird start when some
guy we went to that audio grant the

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first question if not I figured,
but some guy from a fantasy football website

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that I never a never heard of
the site and be never heard of the

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guy and as one of the five
thousand people credentialed for this comes in hot

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well on Caleb Williams with this,
Are you afraid to compete? How do

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you respond to people say that you're
worried to be compared side by side with

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your peers in medicals, measurements and
workouts. Are you afraid to be measured

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against this guy one on one?
Is that why you're not doing things?

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No, not doing things? Others
A decision me and my team, my

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family, and it comes down to
that. I mean. Caleb was graceful

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in his answer. You could see
the expression on his face if you had

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the video where he was incredulous.
But yeah, some guy from some fantasy

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football website just just first question comes
in fire, you're afraid to compete in

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the rambling whatever? All the rest
of that was, which is funny because

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on Twitter he was like celebrating that
he'd ask this tough question of Caleb Williams

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whatever, Like the guy was competing
at two different schools, Like what do

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you what are you saying? Well, you know what? Sometimes that that

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happens, and are the business that
we're now it's you know, the hot

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take or the shot jot take because
you're trying to do something that you're hoping

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that we'll row that player up to
make them say something that now you you

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could say that you created an emotional
response from this particular player and now you

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got the sound on the bike that
you wanted. But Caleb being as prepared

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as any prospect to answer question,
it was quick and to the point.

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And I know they're there as members
of the broadcast media. Sometimes you ask

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questions and I've been around individuals who
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player doesn't answer the way that they
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some guys walking behind me talking about
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asking the question, they get so
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I've seen a lot of irresponsible media
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bad media trying to get a headline, trying to get people pushed people to

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their collumns by getting you know,
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This guy was trying to make himself
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there for fantasy football guy to become
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oh, by the way, if
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credit for it, and he is
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I quote tweeted. I was like, I'm not sure. I was trying

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just inexperienced, but then I read
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was like, I can't think of
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to be asked. But he took
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that interview about him. But once
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to do it. It's almost like
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of way. Right, I'm going
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give you, and then I'm going
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point, it's almost like the guy
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into the crowd because his question didn't
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He thought he was I'm tough jerdo
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Andrew just some dork asking, you
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did it now? Yes, we
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night back after this, Welcome back
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ol Brighten, Nick Ferguson, Grant
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pausing just to see if his eyes
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assume you're watching the is that the
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herd see Celtics take on the maps. Uh, which the Boston is running

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away with that? I know Coach
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way, taught the coach earlier today. Yes, did you Mike from us

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to be on the Yes, we
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I taught to coach earlier today.
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either either pop back at studio or
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get permission from commanders. But don't
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was doing something. I think he
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a long time listener like came up
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he's a long time listener, koa, all this kind of stuff. Love

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to have a coach on said the
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segments, the stories he told,
the interactions, we had, all the

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kind stuff. And I turned to
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I was like, look, dude, you got a career in this when

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you're you know, when you're done. You know, it's like there's some

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people that can't can't do this.
He's he's got a career in this.

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When he's done, he's he's,
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enjoyed that. The tax line always
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everybody's witching it, wishing coach Pagano
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with the Washington Commanders where you got
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But he is gonna he's gonna try
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So just because he got a job, you know, back there with the

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with the Commanders, doesnt mean doesn't
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pump some intel out of him.
Who's going number two. I tried to

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sweat him for this. He was
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tell you that if he gonna tell
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you know, I was doing the
jokey, you know, like I was

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doing the you were hoping, Oh
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I didn't expect I'll put it that
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Battalian food last night and uh we
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uh sitting right next to you know, me and Ryan. We just

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kind of chat it up whatever I'm
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sweat him a little bit for it. You know, you guys have the

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interview process going, you guys sebenty
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I'll read you the quote. It's
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me find it here. It's it's
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about uh like like everybody had good
the interviews were solid, really spoke well

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and smart. That sounded like a
that's the best player. And I was

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a coach, you've got a future. You've got a future in being KG.

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You're absolutely lot. Let's get to
the six petre. It's time for

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the NFL sixth pat I'm gonna trade
a lot of beer insight and insight information

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you can't find anywhere else. No. Six, the top six NFL headline,

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what well nick le Broncos might be
priced out of our guy, Jared

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Verse. I don't know if you've
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but the Florida State defensive lineman who
was an All American last two years,

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showing that he has the athletic profile
of an elite NFL pass rusher. He

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ran a four to five eight forty
at the combine that would be the fastest

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forty of any player in the last
ten years, who also had arms that

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were at least thirty three inches long
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the bench at two twenty five.
Basically a rare blend of size, speed,

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and strength. Miles Garrett is the
only other person to have that kind

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of triangle of numbers as far as
that kind of stuff goes talking to reporters

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versus you think he has a talent
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not lacking in confidence. Same quote, I think I'm a great player.

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I think that's ultimately for the team
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player. I'm example of WI everything
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should be considered. Obviously, he's
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got Jared Verse. We could be
priced out. But are we still on

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board with that as a potential pick
at twelve? Well? Yeah, if

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he is there, I mean I
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I mean, did you expect for
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that he feels as though he is
first overall? Types of talent. I've

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been talking about Jared Ver since what
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the guy like that was my dude
him and a lot too. I'm like,

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the Broncos need a pass rush.
I'm good with you one of the

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two both up tested well. Jared
Verse tested out of a planet, but

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well, I would like to see
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like Verse, but I know it's
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a guy like that run that fast
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mean, he's triangle numbers or Miles
Garret numbers. That's that's insane. The

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only thing that could be worse is
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in the ANFC, not the Denver
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I don't want him to go to
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or Kansas City, oh wow,
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But we do have to worry about
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don't do it two. Speaking of
the Commanders, they are parting ways with

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quite a few players or Charles Lennon
though he was going to parting ways with

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Logan Thomas the tight end as well. Thomas spent the last four season with

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the Commanders, posted to seventy two
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limited to six games in twenty twenty
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play thirty games over the last two
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sixteen hundred and eighty four yards,
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the team. That opens six and
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Washington Commanders. Should the Broncos be
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as a pass catching weapon at the
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with the low level of production from
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got to keep the tires on every
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focusing on the quarterback position as a
must need. You need someone that can

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help you be an inline blocker,
but someone also who can be a threat

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in the passing game. Now,
don't get me wrong, Logan Thomas,

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former quarterback, switched the tight end. He's no Rob Dernikowski, but he

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could be much better than what the
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listen, you do your due diligence
on every single player. It's not

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like the Broncos are coming off with
Super Bowl. I will say this talking

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to George Peyton privately right before we
did our exclusive interview, and you can

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find that up at Broncos Country Night
dot com slash podcast. I believe it's

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up on the kiwis all that kind
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had an exclusive interview with George Payton. I'll tell you before all that there

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were two positions he really mentioned the
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tight end a corner and he wasn't
referring to just the draft either. He's

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like, we're looking at you know, we're evaluating those areas. I would

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not be opposed to maybe making a
financial you know me, Donal, I'll

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be talking about non free agent type
stuff. Yes, I'd make a financial

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outlayer Loki Thomas. I don't think
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in. Well, this is I
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do it clears medicals. Well,
he clears the medical He kind of gives

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you someone of a Jimmy Graham type
large body pass catching. We also saw

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when the Commanders came here to Dimmer
last year. Locus Helm has had a

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touchdown. Yeah, now, Kim
at be more vertical passing yards for whoever's

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at the quarterback position. Possibly,
but you gotta try it. Let me

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say this because everybody says I hate
Sean Payton, which is stupid, but

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I will say this, I've been
critical love Sean Payton. Has had four

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all pro seasons out of tight ends, Joffre Cook being one of them.

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He had Jeremy Shockey yep, Cook
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I will tell you that the tight
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if you you are a talented tight
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That's so again why I'm saying,
let's go out, let's invest in

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that position. This offseason three,
Cam Newton apologizes for his role in the

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viral fight that he was on the
internet video and fight involving form NFL VP

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Cam Newton recently with viral Newton holding
his own in the blender of fists and

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elbows while wearing something that looks like
a Harry Potter sorting hat or something that

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a dark wing with Duck the villain
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the fourth and One podcast, Cam
apologized for his role, saying, there's

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no excuse for what happened. It
should not have been called for simple and

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with that, I apologize to anybody
affected. Cam said, the incident started

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with words and it should have amed
with words. I can't sit up there

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and say, bro, you got
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all of a sudden I do.
That just goes to show you how you

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got to stay in control of your
emotions. Could have got worse this.

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Cam acknowledge he do his best to
restrain himself from attacking in phonics is mainly

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on defending himself. You watch a
fight again, it was basically three on

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one, and the dude still got
on even though he was trying to defend

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himself. I think that if Cam
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we'd probably got their their butts beat. And certainly I saw a video

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one guy who did get popped in
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of stuff. Uh said, Is
that good Enoughice can't kids? That contrition?

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Is that acknowledging what he did?
Yeah, it is. It doesn't

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erase the optics and the image itself. But at some point, like you

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said, I mean, after having
a couple of days to think about it,

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he decided, hey, listen,
he can't really go after the guys

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for how they responded. Only thing
that he can do is kind of ask

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for forgiveness for what he did.
Listen, I've been in that situation before

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where something kind of went sideways,
and instead of focusing on what the other

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person might have said, I said, listen, I'm calling you to just

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kind of hash this out because I
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But Cam was right. That situation
could have ended up much worse than

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what happened. As far as the
physic cuffs, he could have turned into

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something much more dangerous than we've seen
happen in the line of these situations.

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Go back to Leaf brother. Yeah, Dallas, that's the first thing that

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comes to mind for Mkole. Hardman
is denying that he leaked game plans to

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opposing teams during his brief tenure with
the Jets. Hardin played in five games

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the Jets last season, but as
otherwise plays entire career with the Chiefs,

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was believed by some of the Jets
organization, including Sauce Gardner, to have

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leaked game plans to opposing teams during
his time with the Jets. Today,

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Hartman wrote on social media that he
did no such things. Say quote,

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there were false All Caps accusations made
about me and All Caps my character,

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Harbin wrote, to set the record
straight, I have never would never leave

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game plans to another team. I've
never been a person to give an opponent

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and upper hand on always want to
win, no matter the circumstances. Harmon's

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agent had previously denied that Harmon leaked
game plans, but some of the Jets

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don't believe in denial and think he
told both the Chiefs and the Eagles.

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What was coming before those teams played
the Jets. He's approaching free agents and

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wants any team interested in signing him
to hear his denial loud and clear.

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Hardman, also accidentally out of Kansas
City, is tampering when he admitted that

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he told both Pat Mahomes and Andy
Reid, hey, come get me while

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he was still with the Jets.
Do we believe McCole Hartman's denial that he

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do we believe elite game plans or
do we believe the denial? No?

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I don't believe elaked game plans.
I know he was a very very disgrunt

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to employee. And for the record, a lot of players say that when

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you played with a former team,
or you play against a team that you

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wouldn't mind joining and your team stinks
it up, yeah, you may say,

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hey, come get me. How
is that even tampering. It's not

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like we talked about contracts or anything
of that magnitude. But no, I

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for me, when I think about
the fact you're talking about the Chiefs and

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the Eagles, these are both games
that the Jets wont So if they won

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those games, how did micole Harmon
do something that was wrong, because if

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I'm not mistaken, in some of
those games, Zach Wilson played some of

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his best freaking football. Yeah,
so maybe he was leaking. Maybe they

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were slipping the coole. The wrong
game play was the mole and really they

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were using him as the double mole
exactly. Yeah, that was one of

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those things. I was going to
get to it. They lost both those

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games, So what does it even
matter at the end of the day,

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you know, and he's gone now
anyway, So I mean, you know

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what, Also, I'll say this
suit you still have some bitterness from Jets

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players. Consider the fact that Michole
Harlem's on that team. He left and

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he was traded back to Kansas City
and they won a Super Bowl. So

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sometimes as hard as a teammate to
watch someone else have success, and apparently

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that's the case was Sauth Gardner and
the other DV form the New York Jets,

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especially when you don't like the guy. It was interesting by the way

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that several players came out and said
made derogatory comments, one of them saying

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that, yeah, I guess McCole
was just salty that he got beat up

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by UDFA after getting paid to come
in here as a as a free agent

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star. So I was like,
there's some bad blood there. At the

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end of the day. Who has
the last card nor the Trump card?

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And that is MCA Harmon Because guess
what we are saying, Yes, I

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have a rig. Yes, was
that the sombek kissed the rain? You

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need to kiss the ring remix.
Five gambling charges against Iowa State athletes will

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be dismissed due to mobile tracking overreach
that Iowa prosecutors moved to dismiss criminally gambling

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charges against various Iowa State players because
authorities went too far in tracking their use

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of sports betting apps by ESPN dot
Com. Assistant Story County Attorney Benjamin Matchin

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wrote in a court filing that the
Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation exceeded the scope

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of permitted use of tracking software that
detected open mobile betting apps at Iowa State

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athletic facilities. Due to this newly
discovered evidence, the state no longer believes

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further prosecution in the matter is in
the interest of judgments. Basically, they

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lost because the tracking software went too
far. Earlier in the week, attorneys

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for Iowa sweight football players Isaiah Lee
jor El Bronc and Broncos Jujasa Rique had

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made a motion to suppress that's the
digital evidence. They argued that a special

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agent for the Division of Criminal Investigation
violated the agency's limited use agreement with geo

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fencing tracking software and that no probable
cause existed for the searches. They argue

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correctly. Because the prosecution folded,
the Wasrik is eligible to reapply for reinstatement

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on July first. Now, these
guys were all still guilty of gambling on

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the games. They got off on
a technicality here because the tracking software that

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picked up that they had done it
was overreaching its scope. How do you

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feel about how does the tracking overreach
the scope? It's designed for a unique

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purpose to catch guys in certain circles
doing certain things based on the device itself.

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So the fact of saying, hey, listen, these guys actually gambled

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on games, but off through a
technicality. Will that change the perception of

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other people in the public. Probably
not. The tracking software can pinpoint down

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to where you're at in the moment, So if you open the app while

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you're on team facilities, whether that's
college or the pros, it's gonna pick

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it up. I design is supposed
to do that. Apparently there's some legal

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legal jargon in the in the apparently
advice I'm talking about the minority report.

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Now, is that saying that there
were psychics involved here? Not saying it.

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Let have to look into that.
But I'm saying that the tracking offer

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that they use exceeded the scope of
what it is permitted to do. Apparently,

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and they got off on a technicality
that doesn't even make sense. It

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doesn't beyond the scope or whatever it's
supposed to do. It's by design.

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And I'm with you on that.
I need more specifics on the story.

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I just I picked this one up, and I guess I should have gone

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a little further in this. I'll
call and get a quote to figure out

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exactly what it was. Tomorrow we
can. We can get to that tomorrow

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or tomorrow Saturday, We'll do it
Monday. I'll figure it out. That's

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very interesting. Six Cowboys owner Jerry
Joe said he plans to go quote all

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in the offseason in an effort to
improve his team give the various cap challenges

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the Cowboys face. The meaning of
all in is not exactly clear. During

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his annual scouting Combine Tour bus media
session with reporters covering the team, he

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offered a largely meaningless response, and
your definition of what all in and mine

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might not be the same thing.
I'm trying to win games this year with

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my decisions, so I'm all in
this year. He later added undrafted quarterbacks

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to the future. I would be
reluctant to do that this year. That's

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an example, use our first pick
for a quarterback this year for the future.

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If you had an opportunity there,
you are at twenty four and the

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greatest thing since ice cream be sitting
there, I'd be reluctant to do that

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this year. It's called all in
this year, all in this year?

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Does that mean that to now he's
going to improve is edge rush opposite Michael

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Parson? Because they definitely need upgrade
there, No, Kyle Vanderesh, I

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mean they need upgrade there. But
also does that mean he's going to go

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all in with that Prasco, Well, they're gonna pay Dak that's the thing.

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I mean, that's that's gonna get
a sixty plus million dollars per year

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deal out of Dallas. They've got
some other things to do. They did

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pick up the their option on Trey
Lance. It only cost four and a

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half million. It's not a fifth
year option, it's just a team option.

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It was four and a half million, didn't cost him anything. So

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that's you know, they've got that. But I don't think they think Trey

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Lance is the guy right now,
and obviously Dak Prescott certainly is. So

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I don't know what all in means. I know for a fact that Jerry

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wants to win now. I know
he wants one more before he passes.

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I know he desperately wants one more
before he passes, and so I think

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that he believes that continuity was maybe
the best way to get there rather than

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reshuffle it and bring in Bill Belichick. But I think if they don't get

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there this year, they've got everything. Maybe all in from Jerry's standpoint,

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means going after either Josh Jacobs,
Dereck Henry or a guy within your own

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division in Saquon Barkie. Maybe that's
it, because I mean the Dallas Cowboys

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have been missing that they moved on
from Ezekiel Elier. You thinking Tony Poullack

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was going to be that guy,
but Paulack quickly found out it was better

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being number two than being number one. Yeah, and the Cowboys have done

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that before. I mean, Felix
was a phenomenal number two. Felix Jones

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when they had him, phenomenal number
two wasn't really cut out to be the

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lead guy. Because you imagine the
Cowboys with Cdee Lamb Dak Prescott and they

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have either of the three running backs
that I just named, Yeah, you

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put you put Josh Jacobs or Saquon
back there. And I know, I

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know Saquon was Houston, but I
don't know that they want him. Broncos

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Country the Night rolls on after this

