1 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,280 Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of Your Wrong with Molly Hemingway and 2 00:00:20,359 --> 00:00:23,679 David Harsani. Just a reminder, if you want to email the show, 3 00:00:23,719 --> 00:00:28,600 please do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. We love to get 4 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,479 your mail, right Molly, we got the best mail this week. Now. 5 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:38,039 I'm speaking specifically about that guy who has had enough of US A because 6 00:00:38,039 --> 00:00:42,880 he doesn't like that I mock American voters. B because he's sick of your 7 00:00:43,759 --> 00:00:52,640 Bible study excursions, but mostly because you mocked and sided against the Confederacy. 8 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,320 I didn't mock. I decided I sided on the side of the United States 9 00:00:57,359 --> 00:01:00,280 and against the Confederacy, and that bothered him, so he has deleted the 10 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,359 podcast. And sometimes, when you know, we get a lot of favorable 11 00:01:04,079 --> 00:01:07,719 mail, which is so lovely and so nice. Sometimes when you get a 12 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,760 critique, it's a really good critique and you want to take it seriously and 13 00:01:11,799 --> 00:01:15,159 you want to respond, and even if someone's really angry, you want to 14 00:01:15,159 --> 00:01:17,000 win them back. And on this one, I was like, I think 15 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,120 I'm going to I'm just going to have to let this guy go. He 16 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:25,560 sent me a recommendation Jews of the Confederacy. Yeah, I don't know if 17 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,359 I'm going to read that there were Jews and you know what, you know 18 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,640 what. I know you're going to read it because you read everything and that's 19 00:01:33,879 --> 00:01:36,040 you know, and I know it's going to interest you and you're going to 20 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,840 read it. So I have to say. I was like, that's interesting, 21 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,400 But I have a pile of books I'm reading that I think will come 22 00:01:42,439 --> 00:01:48,079 before that one. I'm pretty firmly growing up in the North and generally averse 23 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,799 to slavery. I'm pretty much a fan of the Union. So I was 24 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,079 telling you, David that growing up in Colorado and California, the Civil War 25 00:01:57,239 --> 00:02:01,400 was taught almost as a foreign war, like it's just so alien to what 26 00:02:01,439 --> 00:02:07,760 we experienced in not that there weren't aspects of the Civil War that reached even 27 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:13,240 Colorado, but we just didn't study it like the way people are here. 28 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,439 When I first moved to the East Coast, I remember hearing someone talking about 29 00:02:16,439 --> 00:02:20,680 the War of Northern Aggression, and I did not know what they were talking 30 00:02:20,719 --> 00:02:25,439 about. And then also just like talking about the North or Yankees a lot. 31 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:31,840 I went to a cracker barrel in the nineties and they offered me sweet 32 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,680 tea, and I was like, what's that? And they said, y'all 33 00:02:35,719 --> 00:02:42,919 ain't from around here, is you. It's like it's like biscuits like that 34 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,199 gross kind of like dough that's in that gravy. That's not what is that? 35 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,479 What biscuits are down here? I don't know. But my first time 36 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,360 in Alabama, I was asked if I wanted something I like. I think 37 00:02:54,479 --> 00:03:00,199 southern food's amazing. But I was asked if I wanted something fraud or double 38 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:01,960 fraud, and I was like, this is a good place. This is 39 00:03:02,039 --> 00:03:07,639 great. I like to be I like grits. Grits are good. I'm 40 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:12,319 not a super big fan of grits, but I do love soul food. 41 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,319 And I think, you know, the greens and everything, like the barbecue 42 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:21,800 places where it's just good. And they have like fancy southern food too, 43 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,960 which is great. This is not what we came here to talk about, 44 00:03:24,039 --> 00:03:28,960 David. We come to talk about whatever we feel like. Actually, whenever 45 00:03:29,039 --> 00:03:30,919 you decide by the way, I don't want to give the impression that I 46 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:38,240 don't understand the complications of the of the Civil War and that there were lots 47 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,319 of problems on both sides and all that kind of stuff. I just am 48 00:03:40,719 --> 00:03:49,319 firmly in the Abraham Lincoln camp, and that bothers some people. We are 49 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,479 here at the Federals, I say, well, I don't want to speak 50 00:03:51,479 --> 00:03:55,680 for everyone against slavery, Thank god. I think that's a safe a safe 51 00:03:55,719 --> 00:04:03,240 bit. Yeah, get to some I wouldn't say more serious, serious topics. 52 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:09,879 I think today we should start with all the kerfuffle in Texas over the 53 00:04:09,879 --> 00:04:17,399 border and the barbed wired fence. I would say this, there is a 54 00:04:17,439 --> 00:04:20,639 misconception out there, and I would say it's not a misconception, it's a 55 00:04:20,759 --> 00:04:27,000 disinformation about how Texas. This bothers me most I guess not most, but 56 00:04:27,079 --> 00:04:31,879 bothers me is that lots of Democrats now say look, Republicans are also ignored. 57 00:04:31,879 --> 00:04:38,120 They even say also are ignoring the Supreme Court. That's not true. 58 00:04:38,199 --> 00:04:43,720 Texas was not ordered to do anything. Supreme Court vacated a lower courts injunction 59 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,279 of the federal government from removing razor fence. It says nothing about how Texas 60 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,079 can't put up more and they should. I think it's a mistake for chip 61 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:56,040 Roy and I forget who else to say Texas should ignore the Supreme Court when 62 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,879 we're not there yet. That's a constitutional problem we're going to have if we 63 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,319 get there, maybe, but we're not there yet. Right now. Texas 64 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,560 is not ignoring the Supreme Court. It's defending its border as it's supposed to 65 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,120 according to its own laws and frankly federal law as well. You agree with 66 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:17,879 that, So I agree that there was misinformation about whether Texas was failing to 67 00:05:17,959 --> 00:05:21,720 follow what the Supreme Court said. That was undoubtedly true. You had a 68 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:30,399 bunch of Democrat activists and politicians like Beto O'Rourke saying that by putting up fencing 69 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,639 on the border, that that was disagreeing with the Supreme Court. Well, 70 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,240 that's not true in any way. First off, you know, the Supreme 71 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:45,240 Court merely said that the US government can continue to tear down the fencing put 72 00:05:45,319 --> 00:05:49,480 up by Texas until such time as they're instructed otherwise by a decision from the 73 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:55,279 Supreme Court. So there was nothing in there about whether Texas could put up 74 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,600 the fencing or not. Nothing at all. So it's inaccurate to say that 75 00:05:59,639 --> 00:06:02,959 they were going against the Supreme Court. Having said that, I'm not sure 76 00:06:02,959 --> 00:06:08,800 if I am upset with people discussing what you would do if you had a 77 00:06:08,879 --> 00:06:14,199 Supreme Court saying that you couldn't defend your own state border. I think it's 78 00:06:14,199 --> 00:06:18,720 okay to talk about whether you would sort of sacrifice your state for a very 79 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:26,399 bad ruling from the Supreme Court. It's a treacherous area, but like it's 80 00:06:26,439 --> 00:06:30,079 okay to talk about I think, I think talking about what happened first of 81 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,639 all. I mean, yes, that's how we frame it. And I 82 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:36,480 actually agree with you that I believe the Biden administration wants to undermine enforcement, 83 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:42,480 but their case to the Supreme Court is that defense undermines their ability to enforce 84 00:06:42,639 --> 00:06:46,600 federal law. So it's more complicated even than conservatives make it out to be. 85 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,639 Though I agree with them, I think the Biden administration doesn't want and 86 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,920 really have enforcement there. What gave you that feeling? If the Biden administration 87 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,160 didn't want to enforce the border, do you have any evidence to support this? 88 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,279 There is no border right now is a part of it, And you 89 00:07:01,319 --> 00:07:04,040 know, I always have to I hate to have to speak this way, 90 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,120 but I will. I am a big fan of immigration. Actually I'm a 91 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,800 big fan of a lot of immigration, but I'm not a fan of lawlessness. 92 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,160 And that's what you have right now. I mean it's a crisis. 93 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:19,959 It's bad for it's bad for the for the country. It undermines the rule 94 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:26,560 of law, it will undermine people's People who are fans of immigration will be 95 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,120 less fans of immigration if you just allow everyone to just pour over the border. 96 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,360 You know what I'm saying. This hurts in that way too, And 97 00:07:31,399 --> 00:07:35,120 it's bad for the people who come over as well. They will not you 98 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,240 know, they have to live. They don't live as real immigrants. They 99 00:07:39,279 --> 00:07:42,079 live. They will their first act is a league to come in here is 100 00:07:42,439 --> 00:07:46,000 a will most often be illegal because they won't show up for their court dates, 101 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,079 et cetera. So I just think it's it's a really big crisis. 102 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:56,279 Maybe I believe that Trump won in twenty sixteen over this issue, and I 103 00:07:56,279 --> 00:07:59,480 think he can win again over this issue if things don't change. To just 104 00:07:59,519 --> 00:08:05,120 see the stories about in the media about how the administration's turning the tables on 105 00:08:05,199 --> 00:08:09,800 Republicans and are because they wanted you know, they're being undermined. You know, 106 00:08:09,879 --> 00:08:13,839 they're the Republicans are undermining enforcement. They won't pass a bill in the 107 00:08:13,879 --> 00:08:16,800 Senate. Maybe we should talk about that separately. They won't let them enforce 108 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:20,560 you know, in texts so on. But yeah, actually, can we 109 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:22,439 just take a little bit of a step back to the talking point no, 110 00:08:22,439 --> 00:08:26,560 no, to the talking point last week which Mitch McConnell put out and all 111 00:08:26,639 --> 00:08:33,919 of the media people dutifully regurgitated, which is Mitch McConnell and his band of 112 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:41,639 Republicans they could fix the border if only Donald Trump would let them. Donald 113 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,200 Trump was the reason they couldn't fix the border. That is one of like, 114 00:08:46,279 --> 00:08:50,960 even for even for Team Mitch, that's pretty stupid. And yet you 115 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,360 had people being like, yeah, Donald Trump's killing this, killing this thing 116 00:08:54,399 --> 00:08:58,879 that would fix the border. Well, to your point, what's being discussed 117 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:07,600 is a bill that Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, Mitch McConnell, and the 118 00:09:07,639 --> 00:09:13,000 Republican senator stupid enough to go along with it, Lankford, say they need 119 00:09:13,039 --> 00:09:16,919 to fix the border. This is actually not true in any way. And 120 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:22,000 we know this because on day one of taking office, Joe Biden issued a 121 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:28,519 flurry of executive orders either doing like new things or tearing down, step by 122 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:33,840 step, brick by brick, everything the Trump administration had done in an attempt 123 00:09:33,879 --> 00:09:37,480 to control the border. And by the way, during that Trump administration, 124 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:43,919 you might remember that Donald Trump wanted five billion for the border and couldn't get 125 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,919 it even from the Republicans in the Senate and the House. You know, 126 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,759 so Mitch McConnell can shove it up a stovepipe that he really cares about the 127 00:09:54,759 --> 00:09:58,799 border, but only Donald Trump is keeping him from doing it. So if 128 00:10:00,039 --> 00:10:05,200 Joe Biden had the executive authority to make our border completely porous after it was 129 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,759 after it was beginning to be secured, then he also could just reverse course 130 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,120 and you know, go back to how things were during the Trump administration that 131 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,960 he campaigned he was going to destroy, that he worked through courts to destroy 132 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,440 that he'd worked through executive action to destroy the thing that Congress has. So, 133 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:33,080 like the bill says will give the president authorities to tackle the border. 134 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,279 I'm sorry people not smart enough to figure this out. If you got a 135 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,320 president like Joe Biden who campaigned on a pledge to open the border and then 136 00:10:41,399 --> 00:10:45,879 worked to open the border, giving him more authorities to close the border is 137 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,799 not actually going to fix the border. And like Republicans who are such idiots, 138 00:10:50,799 --> 00:10:52,919 and I'm sorry for being so negative about them all the time, but 139 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:56,559 like year after year after year, when they pretend to care about the border, 140 00:10:56,919 --> 00:11:01,480 they will they will work on these massive bills that give Democrats everything they 141 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,720 want to open the border. And they say and then someday down the road, 142 00:11:07,039 --> 00:11:09,720 we're going to do something to fix the border. And that day down 143 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:13,600 the road never happens, and they do it over and over and over again, 144 00:11:13,759 --> 00:11:18,960 and they seem kind of surprised that finally, at long last, many 145 00:11:20,039 --> 00:11:22,159 Republican voters are like, hey, we're on to you on this and we're 146 00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:26,519 not playing this game again. Yeah. I mean, people should remember, 147 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:31,720 first of all, the bill was probably terrible. I don't think we actually 148 00:11:31,759 --> 00:11:37,039 saw the text of it. But Biden doesn't need any bill to do a 149 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,120 far better job, at least of enforcing the border. And the first thing 150 00:11:41,159 --> 00:11:45,360 he did was overturn remain in Mexico policy, which would have kept immigrants on 151 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,960 the other side of the board or refugees on the other side of the border 152 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,240 while they were you know, their cases were adjudicated. It was a deal 153 00:11:50,279 --> 00:11:54,240 with like Guatemala and El Salvador and Honduras. I think the Trump made that 154 00:11:54,279 --> 00:12:01,559 Biden left that had them holding immigrants refue's there and so on. There was 155 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,240 a ton kind of stuff. But even besides that, I saw Biden saying, 156 00:12:05,279 --> 00:12:07,360 listen, I've done all I can. I can't do anymore. You 157 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,840 know, this is as far as my power goes. The same guy who 158 00:12:09,919 --> 00:12:16,919 will ignore the Supreme Court over and over again on like forgiveness, but yeah, 159 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,879 exactly all of a sudden cares about the limits of his constitutional power. 160 00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:26,679 First of all, he has the power to do more. You'll remember when 161 00:12:26,919 --> 00:12:31,320 Trump, which I didn't love this actually, but Trump diverted money that was 162 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,039 meant for like the military or whatever, for border wall stuff, and everyone 163 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,679 was like, this is the coming of the next coming of Hitler right away, 164 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,960 even though this court's appealed his move and that he could do it. 165 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,559 You Abiden ignores the Supreme Court all the time, and no one seems to 166 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:52,000 care very much. 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The whole the 199 00:15:18,559 --> 00:15:22,559 military industrial complex doesn't make money if there isn't conflict to feed the money. 200 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:28,080 So rather than Mitch McConnell working for a negotiated end to that war. He's 201 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,960 sort of like working to continue it. And he thought that the great idea 202 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:37,120 would be to pretend to care about the border, and in exchange for that 203 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:45,159 he would get like a huge refill on these un un like these coffers of 204 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,840 money that nobody knows what's happening, Like what was the headline just yesterday about 205 00:15:48,919 --> 00:15:54,879 another fifty million that went missing from our aid to Ukraine, And he had, 206 00:15:54,960 --> 00:16:00,840 you know, he got what's Langford's first name, the Senate from Oklahoma, 207 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:06,200 totally forgetting it, the jay and he got Langford to go along with 208 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:11,320 it. Langford not the brightest bulb in the sanctorial u earlier. Jim Langford 209 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,720 just like kind of a it's it's sad because he replaced Tom Coburn, who 210 00:16:15,799 --> 00:16:21,720 was this like super based senator from Oklahoma, which is itself a super based 211 00:16:21,759 --> 00:16:26,759 state. And Jim Langford is very weak and is easily bullied, and that 212 00:16:26,879 --> 00:16:30,279 explains how Mitch McConnell got him to go along with like, you're going to 213 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,759 be the public face of this so that people conservatives will think this is a 214 00:16:33,799 --> 00:16:38,120 good bill. And it was never really about the border at all. It 215 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:45,320 was all about how to how to spend money to help Biden's border crisis, 216 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:51,679 and by help I mean amplify it while then giving a pass so that they 217 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,159 can do what they really want, which is Ukraine funding. But I don't 218 00:16:53,159 --> 00:16:56,840 know how it's going to go. Like, obviously it'll pass the Senate, 219 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,840 and then Mike Johnson will have to pick it up for Congress, and he 220 00:17:00,919 --> 00:17:06,720 has a majority of what like two and a half people, and so will 221 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,839 he Will he even take it up or will he fight it? He doesn't 222 00:17:10,839 --> 00:17:12,640 seem to be the strongest guy either. What do you think is going to 223 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:18,640 happen? No clue? With a two what is it? A two seat? 224 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,680 Two seat majority? It's four? I think? I do wonder. 225 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,279 I mean, obviously some of them are going to be moderates, but aren't 226 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:29,119 there some Democrats that may not want this kind of deal either? So I 227 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,880 don't really know how that plays out anymore. Honestly, it used to be 228 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,279 easier to get a sense of this because there are actually more bills and more 229 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,480 real compromises and stuff, so you would get a sense. But nothing really 230 00:17:41,559 --> 00:17:45,319 happens anymore, So it's difficult to know for me. I know that you 231 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,279 like it when nothing happens. By the way, I like it when nothing 232 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,160 happens, or I wo should say this. I think nothing is better usually 233 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,559 than something. Yeah, that's I would say. I'm not a huge fan 234 00:17:55,599 --> 00:17:59,079 of nothing, but it's almost always better than whatever. These idiots who are 235 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,079 on the hill put together when they're like when they get their minds together. 236 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:07,640 So did you see Mike Rounds is that's name in North South Dakota who said 237 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,680 that the Russians on social media had sunk this and helps sing this bill with 238 00:18:11,799 --> 00:18:15,839 Republicans listen. I think the Russian thing is so ridiculous, but I'd like 239 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,319 to contain it to the Democratics. Like, if you're a Republican talking about 240 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:25,799 Russian bots, you are really you should not be a politician anymore, David. 241 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,960 The Republicans in the Senate were basically half of the Russia. I mean, 242 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,200 they were at least as responsible for the Russia collusion early on. Democrats, 243 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,359 for sure they are. And also I just want to say they're bad 244 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,640 on so many things. I've spoken with some free speech senators who say that 245 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:47,440 in private, people will be like, we've just got to tackle this disinformation 246 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,319 problem, and the free speech senators will be like, do you mean free 247 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,039 speech? Like you want to tackle free speech? Like do you hear what 248 00:18:55,079 --> 00:19:00,519 you're saying? You don't want people debating proper courses of action because you agree 249 00:19:00,519 --> 00:19:02,960 with them, And they're like, no, the Russians are really behind this. 250 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,440 So worth a reminder, And Matt Tayebe and his crew have done great 251 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:12,319 work on this, as have we of how much that Russia collusion lie. 252 00:19:12,799 --> 00:19:18,319 The lie that Donald Trump stole the election by colluding with Russia in twenty sixteen 253 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:26,240 still bears fruit even among the low IQ Republicans who comprised the US Senate, 254 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,839 Like a bunch of people came out and said, we can't tell you, 255 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,440 we can't prove this in any way, but you're just gonna have to believe 256 00:19:33,519 --> 00:19:37,359 us that Russians are the reason why Americans say they care about the border. 257 00:19:37,759 --> 00:19:38,880 And a bunch of people, you know, a bunch of Washington Posts and 258 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,960 New York Times would amplify this and say, gosh, that sounds right. 259 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:47,319 There's no way that Americans really care about the border. They're being manipulated by 260 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,799 Russians. And to this day, years after all of that was revealed as 261 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:56,799 not even like a hoax, but like like a really poorly done hoax by 262 00:19:56,839 --> 00:20:04,279 these Democrat propaganda groups Republicans like apparently Mike Rounds regurgitating it like a good little 263 00:20:04,279 --> 00:20:07,960 puppy. You know. I'm in the middle of writing a book and I'm 264 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:14,480 covering that in my book, and it just going through the hysteria, Like 265 00:20:14,519 --> 00:20:18,039 do you remember what was it? Was it Cambridge and analytics or whatever, 266 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:25,519 like just the hysteria over some bots and Facebook ads and stuff like this. 267 00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:27,519 I mean, it was just insane. Quickly, want to say, one 268 00:20:27,519 --> 00:20:33,240 thing on the wall so or the border. Hungary is a small country in 269 00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:37,319 Europe. During the mass migration of people from the Middle East into Western Europe, 270 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,640 Hungary was along the way. Hungary put up a wall and they immediately 271 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,720 stopped a small country with not a lot of money. I know it as 272 00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:51,240 a shorter border, but it could stop virtually dead any kind of in, 273 00:20:51,559 --> 00:20:56,079 you know, a refugee problem in its own country. The idea that the 274 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,720 United States, with all its wealth and tech knowlogy and everything that we have, 275 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,880 couldn't if they wanted to stop this on the border is ridiculous. I 276 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,240 used to not care about this issue very much because the numbers weren't that high. 277 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,519 But now this is a this is a crisis, it's a cultural crisis, 278 00:21:12,599 --> 00:21:17,799 it's a law law, law and order crisis, and something needs to 279 00:21:17,839 --> 00:21:19,319 be done, and obviously no one wants to do anything. I don't really 280 00:21:19,759 --> 00:21:25,119 I'm so against even if I was four, and I'm not as against giving 281 00:21:25,279 --> 00:21:27,720 Ukrainian aid, you know whatever. I just I don't want to get into 282 00:21:27,759 --> 00:21:32,119 that. This bill should not be this should not be connected in any way. 283 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:36,279 It doesn't make any sense that this is this is connected. It's just 284 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:41,119 almost like a self defeating uh you know. One. You know, I'm 285 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,640 not a fan of the neocons, but I think there's there would be an 286 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,839 argument for it. You know, they want to defend and protect Ukraine's borders, 287 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,839 and they know that Americans would like to defend and protect our borders before 288 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,519 we do that. And so if I were them, I could see the 289 00:21:56,559 --> 00:21:59,920 logic of being like, how about we give these people what they want to 290 00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:03,039 we can go protect the country that we want to protect. Like it's not 291 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:04,240 insane, you know, you were just saying there used to be all this 292 00:22:04,319 --> 00:22:08,599 legislation when people were working together, and I understand. I think most people 293 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,640 understand that you have to do compromises and stuff. Yeah, but things done. 294 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,839 Maybe I remember it, maybe I'm misremembering, but it used to be, 295 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,200 Hey, listen, let's work on this bill, and then we're going 296 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,039 to help you on this bill. I think that's actually what's happening here, 297 00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:23,880 isn't it? Or no, well, aren't the two bills connected? Like 298 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,759 aren't they one? Okay? All right? I think the general idea was 299 00:22:29,559 --> 00:22:32,839 we take care of you here, you take care of us, and they 300 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,680 forgot that. They forgot that saying you're taking care of things is not the 301 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:42,000 same thing as actually taking care of things. I mean, even as they're 302 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:47,119 even Biden's out there saying we can't you know, I need this bill to 303 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,359 do anything. He's he's he's going to the Supreme Court to stop Texas from 304 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:56,759 from from closing the border. I see the media trying to flip this on 305 00:22:56,799 --> 00:23:00,319 its head and saying Republicans are stopping you know whatever they're dumb headline are. 306 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,680 But I just don't. I think Americans and just innately know that one side 307 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,519 wants an open border and the other doesn't. It's not just that Democrats have 308 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,720 you know, say what you want about them. They have been very clear 309 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,119 that they want open borders, so saying, you know, we want open 310 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,599 borders, we want open borders, we want open borders. Oh, the 311 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,720 Republicans are keeping us from closing the border. It just goes against everything they've 312 00:23:22,759 --> 00:23:27,000 been saying four years. You have Democrat congressmens saying we need these illegal immigrants 313 00:23:27,039 --> 00:23:30,119 to beef up my numbers so I don't get redistrict so that the seat doesn't 314 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:37,440 get lost through redistricting. Like you have people openly saying we need low wages 315 00:23:37,519 --> 00:23:41,680 that come from having an open border, and anyone who in any way tries 316 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,559 to close the border is the worst monster in the history of the world. 317 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:53,200 Like, the messaging doesn't work because it's been hysterical opposition to any border of 318 00:23:53,240 --> 00:24:00,400 any kind for like what ten to forty years. Yeah, I mean, 319 00:24:00,559 --> 00:24:03,880 I just I don't want to get into an argument over wages and stuff like 320 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:08,319 that, but whatever the I just think Americans do not like lawlessness, and 321 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,160 they don't like what's going on down there, you know what I mean. 322 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:18,319 I know, did you see all those polls after the Iowa and New Hampshire 323 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,480 caucus in primary where they were saying that the number one issue for these people 324 00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:26,920 was the border for the Republican voters, and I think it actually is what 325 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:32,119 you just said. It's yes, the very real issue that having an open 326 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:38,279 border and having an embrace of breaking of laws and all of that is bad 327 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,960 than like the effects in different states has been very difficult for people to handle. 328 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,680 But I also think it's just the chaos of an open border that makes 329 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:56,119 people feel extremely vulnerable and threatened as well. You remember when Desantas sent those 330 00:24:56,559 --> 00:25:03,079 refugees up to what was it Cape cod Or, they had a meltdown because 331 00:25:03,079 --> 00:25:10,039 they had a few immigrants there. I think sending a lot of these people 332 00:25:10,319 --> 00:25:15,640 essentially are legal immigrants up to these major cities has been a hugely effective way 333 00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:19,079 to let the rest of the country feel what this problem is about. I 334 00:25:19,079 --> 00:25:25,119 think we underestimate how much of that has might move this debate towards Republicans in 335 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:30,480 a general election. Maybe we don't underestimate it. Maybe I underestimated it initially. 336 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,799 So that brings us to the Republicans moving forward with the impeachment of Homeland 337 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:45,279 Security. What is it Secretarytary majorcas what's his first name? I don't know. 338 00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:48,079 It's funny, Andrew. I think what's first name? Andrew. That 339 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:56,319 doesn't Alejandro alex A, Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you're I'm 340 00:25:56,319 --> 00:26:00,359 getting I'm getting older. Cut me some slack every time I can to make 341 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,599 fun of me for not remembering names. I'm like, oh, just you 342 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,039 wait, just you wait. I've always been terrible with names. I fear 343 00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:11,759 for what's going to happen in the coming years with me. So see a 344 00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:15,799 lot of pieces in the Wall Street Journal and elsewhere saying that it's kind of 345 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:21,440 useless to impeach him, So Republicans move forward with impeachment on like Friday night 346 00:26:21,519 --> 00:26:23,759 or something. I don't understand what Republicans are doing, like dumping news on 347 00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:27,720 Friday nights and over the weekend. Have you noticed this lately? I think 348 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:33,119 that that's like against You do that with things you don't want people. Do 349 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,640 you think if they do? You think that if they did it at a 350 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,039 different time of day or a different day of the week, the corporate media 351 00:26:38,079 --> 00:26:41,559 would do a good job of covering what they're doing. I think I think 352 00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:45,440 they would do an excellent, in depth job about all his failures. Listen, 353 00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:49,079 I honestly don't think it's going to make much of a difference they let's 354 00:26:49,079 --> 00:26:52,359 say, step down tomorrow. They just put some other terrible person in there. 355 00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:56,480 You know, I just don't know that like it's going to make much 356 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,400 of a difference. But I think it does make a statement that there's something 357 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,640 going on year and forces corporate media to at least talk about you, talk 358 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,480 about him in some way. What do you think? So? I personally 359 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:12,039 think that Mayorkas should have been impeached on day one of the when the Republicans 360 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:18,079 took office or took over the House a year ago, that by doing that 361 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,279 they could have done that. It was an impeachment that everybody agrees with. 362 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,400 I mean everyone who cares about laws and borders agrees with. It presses the 363 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:32,319 issue of what it means to lose control of our border and all of the 364 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:37,359 national security problems. It might have even led to the Biden administration pretending to 365 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,880 care about the border last year, as opposed to waiting until a few months 366 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,279 before the elector this year, which is the election year, and they would 367 00:27:45,319 --> 00:27:48,599 have gotten like a dry run. So they could have done my orcuss in 368 00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:53,160 January, they could impeach Merrick Garland in May, and then they could be 369 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,680 ready to impeach Joe Biden now, So kind of impeachments take practice and effort 370 00:27:57,799 --> 00:28:03,519 to do them properly and learn from your mistakes and everything. So while I 371 00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:07,599 wish my Orcis would have been impeached on day one of the Republicans taking over, 372 00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:11,279 I have no problem with it happening now. And also it's like better 373 00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:17,160 late than ever. I have like an almost on the spectrum kind of like 374 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,400 feeling about whether or not he should be impeached. And what I mean by 375 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,960 that is, whereas normally I can think through political concerns, I just think, 376 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,839 objectively speaking, someone who has done so much, so many bad things 377 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,319 to destroy our border should be held accountable. So I'm just for it. 378 00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:37,799 But that does relate to the thing I just said, which is you can't 379 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:44,519 really single handedly destroy the border. It is clear that the Department of Justice 380 00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:48,839 has been coming up with the legal justifications or destroying our southern border, and 381 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,079 Merrick Garland has, oh, I don't know, like forty other things he's 382 00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:56,319 done to harm the country. So you wouldn't just want to go after my 383 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,839 Orcus, you'd want to also go after Garland. And ultimately it is Joe 384 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,920 who is authorizing all of this, and so he shouldn't be able to escape 385 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,960 from this either. But yeah, I'm all for it. I think anyone 386 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,160 who cares about their country would be for it. And I noticed on that 387 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,920 note that Ken Buck who is campaigning to be a CNN contributor, which is 388 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,839 like the saddest thing I can say. And I say that as an actual 389 00:29:19,839 --> 00:29:23,319 TV contributor, Like, I love my job, but I'm sorry, but 390 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:29,559 if you're selling out what you believe in order to do that work, that 391 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,279 is disgraceful. And he is a disgraceful politician, and he's just just you 392 00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:37,680 know, it's just awful and represents my parents. So that makes me very 393 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,039 sad. But he was like, I don't know, I kind of like 394 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,440 what my orcis is doing. I think it's great to have an open border. 395 00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:48,000 CNN, will you hire me? So, I mean, that wasn't 396 00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:49,759 exactly what he said, but that was the subtext of what he said. 397 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,599 The watch dout Real Wall Street Podcast with Chris Markowski. Every day Chris helps 398 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,279 unpack the connection between politics and the economy and how it affects your wallet. 399 00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:04,079 Are we seeing the downfall of Marxism? You can believe black Rock and put 400 00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:10,039 your money into DEI and ESG but the free market will eventually win out every 401 00:30:10,119 --> 00:30:14,240 time as they gain power to implement societal change. You're starting to see it 402 00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:17,240 fail. 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Now I get the argument that America that a lot of people especially 410 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,039 now don't believe American troops should be in Jordan at all, And maybe I 411 00:30:56,079 --> 00:31:03,359 agree, right, but I think the ones you have Iran killing Americans that 412 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,400 deserves a response. I'm not saying go invade Iran. I'm not saying, 413 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,319 you know, build a new nation there or topple the regime. I'm just 414 00:31:11,359 --> 00:31:15,640 saying that I think they deserve to pay a price. And what drives me 415 00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:19,000 crazy. And all week this has been going on is Biden and Biden administration 416 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,359 officials are out there constantly talking about what they're going to do and how they're 417 00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:27,200 going to respond, which is clearly just some kind of like part is in 418 00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:30,920 effort to make him look like the commander in chief, and in the end 419 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,839 they're probably not even going to do anything that matters. You know, Oh, 420 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,319 I don't know. I think like people like him want nothing more than 421 00:31:38,359 --> 00:31:42,960 to get involved in a sprawling, lengthy Middle East war, and this is 422 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,759 a good way to get into one. I disagree not with Miyan. They 423 00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:52,480 love Iran in there and that administration, but that wasn't I wasn't saying with 424 00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:56,160 Iran, right, So they'll probably come up with some convoluted way to respond. 425 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,519 My problem with going out and saying we're going to respond, We're going 426 00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:04,559 to respond. It's like, just shut up and do it. Yeah, 427 00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:07,640 exactly, shut up, do it, and then maybe don't even say anything 428 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,839 afterward either, like you don't talk about it, you just what is it? 429 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,440 Walk softly and carry a big stick. Did we know the solemny thing 430 00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:19,240 was going to happen? No, it happened, and it was amazing Okay, 431 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,240 but that's a good example here. I think there are a couple good 432 00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:28,039 examples from the Trump administration if we can just take a step back again and 433 00:32:28,119 --> 00:32:32,200 think through what was happening in foreign policy in the Trump administration. I do 434 00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:37,559 remember in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen, one of the talking points from the 435 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:43,400 media and other Democrats was that if Trump were elected, a nuclear war would 436 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,440 break out, right, like, we are really possibly going to have a 437 00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:52,759 nuclear war because a madman will take over our foreign policy. And instead we 438 00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:59,440 had the first time in however long that a republic that a president hadn't started 439 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,599 a new war. In fact, worked to get us out of wars and 440 00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:07,920 worked to and it was like really complicated stuff that they were doing in terms 441 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:14,480 of their foreign policy, but worked to have peace increase, most notably in 442 00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:17,079 the Middle East, which was, as we all know, is a difficult 443 00:33:17,119 --> 00:33:22,559 task. And so you had this four years of you know, occasionally fraught 444 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:30,200 moments with North Korea threatening war and other people threatening war and US having a 445 00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:37,240 very decisive and strong response without it resulting in long drawn out wars. And 446 00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:44,279 so when it comes to Iran, there was the situation where they had shot 447 00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:47,559 down one of our drones. Do you remember that? And all of the 448 00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:51,279 military industrial complex was like, it's on, we need to go to war. 449 00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:54,720 Tom Cotton was like bomb Iran, you know. Lindsay Graham was like 450 00:33:54,799 --> 00:34:00,240 bomb Iran. And Trump almost did it, and he I think I put 451 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,720 this in my book, but I can't remember, but I definitely, you 452 00:34:02,759 --> 00:34:07,159 know, was talking to him about it, and he said that the response 453 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:14,239 plans that were drawn up were the kind of thing that could provoke a greater 454 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:20,000 conflict. So no question that you have every right to respond, but you 455 00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:24,519 also have the authority and responsibility to think about how you're going to respond and 456 00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:30,320 how to do it in a way that serves your country's interests as well. 457 00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:35,000 And I think the Solemani situation is a good example of this. You had 458 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,239 this leader of the bad guys killing all sorts of troops for many, many 459 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:44,119 years with his roadside bombs, and then we just took him out and it 460 00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:49,559 was a devastating blow to Iran. They were very upset about it, but 461 00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:52,280 it wasn't the kind of like, don't make a lot of money off of 462 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:58,480 it if you're the defense contractors. Just a single strike on a very bad 463 00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:02,400 guy and then you leave. But it was really effective for our national security. 464 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,679 I would love and I pray that there are some sane people in the 465 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:15,559 Biden administration who are thinking through how to respond decisively without doing it in such 466 00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:20,480 a way that it actually leads to less national security for us because we get 467 00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:25,440 embroiled in some kind of escalatory conflict. Yeah, I don't think Iran has 468 00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:30,880 any I think they were. Well, let's take a step back and just 469 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,800 say that you mentioned Trump's policy and what I think he was excellent that he 470 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,320 did, and actually I was very skeptical of this. I think you were 471 00:35:37,559 --> 00:35:42,119 a bit as well when we met with people on this, but that he 472 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:47,920 just bypassed the Palestinian situation completely, which meant bypassing Iran's influence and made peace 473 00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:52,679 or helped make peaces obviously being ongoing for a while. But he's trying to 474 00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:55,079 say in their defense, they actually went to the Palestinians first. They just 475 00:35:55,159 --> 00:36:00,159 had a backup plan for if and when the Palestinians said no, go Shu, 476 00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:01,559 they always say no go so I know. But my point is being 477 00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:04,920 they actually did the right thing of saying like, hey, this is kind 478 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,920 of about you, so do you want in and I said no, and 479 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,519 they were like, Okay, well we're not going to be held hostage by 480 00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:13,599 your no. We're going to keep going. But they did the right thing 481 00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:16,000 by going to them first. In my view, for a piece, I 482 00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:20,639 don't, yeah, but I think that making peace between the Sunny world and 483 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,480 Israel, which has basically happened. They just went around Palestinians, and Israel 484 00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:30,559 was basically a piece with all these skull states, basically a piece with Saudi 485 00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:37,239 Arabi even though they have no real deal in place. But what did right 486 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:45,840 away Biden emboldened Iran, helped fund Iran, made the Palestinians the center of 487 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,960 all discussion again. And look at what happened. I saw a piece the 488 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,280 other day in Bloomberg that showed right when Biden came in, they allowed Iran 489 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,480 essentially to start selling the oil everywhere, including China. They were just flush 490 00:36:59,519 --> 00:37:04,480 with cash. Emboldened. They attack Americans like hundreds of times. People don't 491 00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:07,400 realize this is not just you know now. They do it over and over 492 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,679 again, and I think a really big, devastating blow would put them back 493 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,079 in their place. I think they understand power. They don't understand or care 494 00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:17,039 about the rest of this nonsense. They don't really want to deal. They 495 00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:22,599 think their regional power, they want nuclear weapons. It's an incredibly dangerous situation. 496 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,800 I don't have all the answers. It's foreign policy. Also, we 497 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,880 have a responsibility, a historic responsibility, and keeping shipping lanes open. That's 498 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,719 just is what it is. And the Red Sea over there, it's just 499 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:38,440 a hugely important place in the world, and the United States has some kind 500 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,960 of responsibility I think to ensure that the shipping lanes are open. No one 501 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,519 else is going to do it. That's the truth. You know, Britain 502 00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:47,800 can't really do it. We have to do it. You may disagree with 503 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,519 that. I don't know. Actually, it was funny. I was talking 504 00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:52,039 to one of my kids who was preparing for a debate this weekend. The 505 00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:59,800 debate question is resolved that the number of troops in the Middle East, which 506 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:05,480 they referred to as Western Asia, should be substantially reduced, and so we 507 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,159 were working on both the affirmative and the negative arguments. And one of the 508 00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:13,559 things I was talking to my kid about was how you know, literally, 509 00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:16,480 since like eighteen oh four, the US military has been used to secure shipping 510 00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:21,360 routes. You know, the Barbary pirates had to be dealt with off the 511 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,239 coast of Libya. Marines get their start. When was that? Sorry did 512 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,719 name? Yeah? I don't know when. Eighteen twenty. I don't know 513 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,800 when exactly that was right? Sorry, yeah, yeah, oh yeah. 514 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:37,599 My point just being even someone who really doesn't like the neo con interventionist like 515 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:43,039 flailing, never ending war policy is a big fan of securing shipping routes, 516 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,360 and I was like talking to her about how she can use it in both 517 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:52,400 in the affirmative and negative case. How to defend shipping routes is another issue. 518 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,320 The troops that are on the border of Jordan and Syria are not being 519 00:38:57,559 --> 00:39:00,639 are not there to secure shipping routes. That's more about our involvement in the 520 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:07,119 Syrian civil war. And one of the arguments made by people who don't like 521 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:13,559 a heavy like press, you know all these troops scattered throughout the Middle East, 522 00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:15,880 is that they're basically sitting ducks there and that they can be targets of 523 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:22,480 strikes. And so the idea there is more like if you're gonna go go 524 00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:25,719 big, but don't do this like small smattering of troops spread all throughout, 525 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:31,400 particularly at times like right now where we are spread so thin everywhere. Not 526 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,320 does that make sense? Like you kind of either want to go big or 527 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,960 go small here This in between stuff is not working for us, or it 528 00:39:40,039 --> 00:39:45,440 results in the kind of strike that can lead us into a and into a 529 00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:50,400 nuclear war with Iran, and smart people should be thinking about how to avoid 530 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,280 that. There will be a There will be a war if Iran gets a 531 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:59,039 nuclear weapon or is that the cost real cusp of it because Israel cannot allow 532 00:39:59,079 --> 00:40:00,360 that. I mean, I think that's just for them. Okay, So 533 00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:05,079 again, David, we had And by the way, I'm not as anti 534 00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:07,679 the Iran deal as almost everyone else on the right is, Like I saw 535 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,239 the logic in it. I'm not saying I agreed with it, but I'm 536 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:16,079 just not as anti. But the logic of the Trump administration, which of 537 00:40:16,119 --> 00:40:22,079 course was very anti aron deal really made sense. Pivoting away from Iran as 538 00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:27,760 the central power that controls the region, pivoting towards Saudi Arabia, also not 539 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,840 a great country, but one that would work with us to secure peace in 540 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:37,559 the region. When we did that, we had if there were any escalatory 541 00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:42,360 actions, it was like an escalation toward peace, and now we have like 542 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:47,159 NonStop escalation toward conflict. And it's the entire posture of the Biden administration. 543 00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:52,719 It's not just this situation, it's like everything they have done since day one 544 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,480 that has led us to this really bad situation here. Bad. They're not 545 00:40:57,639 --> 00:41:01,119 solely responsible for the bad situation with Russia invading Ukraine, but that policy that 546 00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:07,679 they support that went back decades is respond is a key responsibility for that mess 547 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:13,039 there. And I just don't trust them to do the right thing at all. 548 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,920 I view them as people who are so weak that they just are constantly 549 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:22,639 like supporting all sides. You know, take the situation with the Huties and 550 00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:28,280 how Biden removed them from the terror list. He stopped working with the Saudis 551 00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:34,159 in their proxy war against the or you know, working with them as against 552 00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:38,960 the Hutis and the rebels that are destabilizing Yemen. So he's like on that 553 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:45,800 side of things, but then when they bomb all the shipping routes, then 554 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,239 he's directly involved in bombing them, do you know what I'm saying? Like 555 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:54,719 it's like he supports the Palestinians and the Israelis we're funding both sides. It's 556 00:41:54,920 --> 00:42:00,920 he he's helping out Iran while also being at being in great conflict with Iran. 557 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:06,360 Like it's just a muddled mess and there's no clarity and there's no strength 558 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,239 in it. Yeah, I have a lot to say there. I agree 559 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,880 with what you're saying. In general, I don't know what the right policy 560 00:42:13,199 --> 00:42:15,840 is, go big, go small, not be there at all. But 561 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,239 I do know that if someone kills an American soldier, we should say, 562 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,360 like now, there's going to be a heavy price to pay for that. 563 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,800 Like, I don't care what you if you believe we should be there or 564 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,159 not. Once we're there, you don't hurt Americans. They're not doing anything 565 00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:30,639 to Iran really, right. So that's just my view of it, And 566 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,719 I will say I'm happy you mentioned Israel. Yeah, oh sorry, Well, 567 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,079 actually, let me really quickly do a little tit bit there. To 568 00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:39,360 me, it's this might sound insane, but it's like a bar fight. 569 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,760 You know, sometimes your friend gets in a bar fight and you have to 570 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,920 like just help out the friend and then find out later what went on. 571 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:52,320 I totally agree that, even if you don't think it's the wisest policy to 572 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:57,519 have Americans scattered throughout this region. If you so much as touch a hair 573 00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:00,760 on the head of one of our soldiers, you will regret that for the 574 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:06,199 rest of your very short remaining days. We keep acting like we're some middling 575 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,199 power or something. We are in superpower, not even a superpower. We're 576 00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:14,400 the only real superpower still in my view. Obviously there are other nuclear powers. 577 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,880 Iran is not a nuclear power. Yet you don't go around shooting at 578 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:23,440 American soldiers and killing them. You've killed hundreds during the Obama administration. I'm 579 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:32,000 happy you mentioned just so. Yes, Biden also started funding the Palestinians immediately. 580 00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:36,519 All most of that goes to Hamas, you know he I'm not saying 581 00:43:36,559 --> 00:43:39,400 Biden's at fall for what Hamas does, but I'm very skeptical this would have 582 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:44,320 happened under during the Trump administration. You know, maybe it would have, 583 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,119 maybe it wouldn't have, But I just want quickly wanted to mention a story 584 00:43:47,159 --> 00:43:53,840 we didn't talk about, is that the literal un employees killed Jews and we're 585 00:43:54,320 --> 00:44:00,960 with Hamas, and then Israel sent a intel eigence dossier, a real one 586 00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:06,159 to the administration that shows like fifty percent of people working for the UN and 587 00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:12,960 Gaza are are basically tied to Hamas. I mean, and Trump had Trump 588 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,719 had gotten us out of that deal the UN wra he had stopped funding it 589 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:22,960 through having taxpayers funded. And one of the first things Biden did was funded 590 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,320 again, like everything polished on his National Security Council, a former top official 591 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,360 of the group, who of course would have known that they were involved in 592 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,079 all of this. Everyone knew. Yeah, every good morning for decade. 593 00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:37,800 I was reading an AI report on that situation from twenty thirteen. Now I 594 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,519 get their neo CON's over there, but they had all this evidence that everyone 595 00:44:42,559 --> 00:44:45,360 knew that Hamas had strong ties to the UN there. But I'm just this 596 00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:50,719 just goes to show you that almost every move they made and listen, because 597 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,800 they're pro Iran. This is why Rob Malley, who brought Iranian I would 598 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,880 call them spies. I don't know what else to call them, pro Iranian 599 00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:02,760 people who I promised to help Iran into the administration. One of those people 600 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,119 still works at the Pentagon. I media doesn't even talk about it. I 601 00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:09,440 mean, it would be crazy. Imagine just imagine if someone had written a 602 00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:13,159 letter to putin say I'm going to do everything I can help you and then 603 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,199 was in the Pentagon. Wouldn't it be a pretty big news story, you 604 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:20,800 think? So it seems like more and more collusion than anything that happened under 605 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,079 Trump, which is a low bar since there was no collusion. But yes, 606 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:30,639 yeah, so anyway, like you know, I actually think Trump should 607 00:45:30,639 --> 00:45:32,480 have hit back harder when they shut down the drone, But I understand his 608 00:45:32,559 --> 00:45:37,159 reasoning. He did kill Solomani, which was great. And if you can 609 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,199 make how can you say, if you can make the leadership of a country 610 00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:45,239 pay rather than just it's civilians and so on, that's that's the best way 611 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,280 to go about it. So yeah, And I would to clarify from the 612 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,280 early you know, when I was saying I wish they would talk about it 613 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,159 less. I would be okay with saying something like you won't know where and 614 00:45:54,199 --> 00:46:00,599 you won't know when. But I wouldn't sleep super comfortably if I were you, 615 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:05,639 because we're coming. That to me is an okay statement to make rather 616 00:46:05,679 --> 00:46:09,280 than these like you know, for the last several months, my message to 617 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:15,159 the Iranians who are thinking about doing bad stuff is don't. If he said 618 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:20,679 don't once he said don't like sixty Times, John Kirby, who is always 619 00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:24,639 like having to clean up cream, John Pierre's messes with my messages, don't 620 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,880 you just Anthony Blinkett, my messages don't Well, they did, they did, 621 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:35,519 so maybe less of this like the I think they think they're being tough 622 00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:37,320 when they talk this way, or they thought they were being tough yesterday when 623 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:42,000 they were like, we're going to come after you. It's not really tough. 624 00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:45,960 It's just seems very like all talk and no action. So they need 625 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:51,559 to work on their their game. They could have prevented who knows, they 626 00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:55,000 may overreact now knows because they don't know what they're doing. But they should 627 00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:00,719 have reemptively stopped this stuff by sending a message earlier. But what did they 628 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,159 do. They just reward Iran. They think they don't understand the Middle East. 629 00:47:04,199 --> 00:47:06,400 They think if you help these people, they're going to view you as 630 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,440 a friend. No, they're going to view you as weak. And that's 631 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:15,800 what Iran now views the United States as weak. So and there are devastating 632 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:20,920 consequences with that potentially. So I don't know. I think Trump's you know, 633 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,119 Trump's foreign policy was pretty good. I mean, everyone there are there 634 00:47:23,159 --> 00:47:27,320 is this like contingent on the on the on the right that now you know 635 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,679 is against like doing anything, you know, bombing anyone for any reason, 636 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,480 and that is just stupid. We still are a world power, we still 637 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,760 have to protect our interests deside what we're going to do. If I can 638 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,480 just make a comment on that, I think there are a lot of people 639 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,679 who, well, who are you, are exactly like you say, They 640 00:47:44,679 --> 00:47:52,519 are just almost anti military use of military. They frequently call themselves restrainers or 641 00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:58,239 they believe in restraint, and I understand the need to restrain from interventionism, 642 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,880 but I hate that term and that approach because I think a much better approach 643 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:09,960 is like focusing on your national interest and using whatever resources you have to make 644 00:48:10,039 --> 00:48:15,719 sure that your national interest is taken care of. And sometimes that's military action, 645 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:22,199 and you want to have an extremely strong national defense to assert that your 646 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:29,639 interests are protected globally. And that's not a restraint view. And sometimes people 647 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:34,760 who have a national interest focus get lumped with those other people because they're arguing 648 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,599 against a particular neo con interventionism. But it's very, very different, and 649 00:48:38,679 --> 00:48:46,360 I personally would argue that the vast majority of Americans are people who believe in 650 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:52,440 the use of military in a really thoughtful way, by which I mean not 651 00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:54,039 in the way that a lot of the people in Congress or in the defense 652 00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:59,199 industry want to use them. But they also believe in the use of the 653 00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:02,440 military to assert your interests. I think that's like the middle ground, very 654 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:07,320 dominant position of Americans, probably even in both parties, where you're like, 655 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:13,599 we need to think about what's in our interest and defend our interests, and 656 00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:15,519 sometimes that's going to be the military, but not in the way that we've 657 00:49:15,559 --> 00:49:20,639 been fighting wars for the last few decades. I agree. I think that 658 00:49:21,079 --> 00:49:24,480 most Americans are not ideological about foreign policy, meaning they don't have some they're 659 00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:28,880 set ways. Sometimes they think forces needed, sometimes they don't. Just depends 660 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,960 on the situation. And I'm like that, So maybe that's why I think 661 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,679 everyone's like that. But I mean I take each you know, people are 662 00:49:36,679 --> 00:49:38,039 like, well, you thought you said this about this situation, but you 663 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,599 say something about Ukraine. Yeah, because Ukraine is a different place than Israel 664 00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:47,000 and Palestine and Iran, and these are different situations with different out potential outcomes 665 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,519 and so on. Also, if I can say this is why I hate 666 00:49:51,519 --> 00:49:55,239 those terms hawk and dove. So hawk is someone who wants to use the 667 00:49:55,280 --> 00:50:00,440 military, and dove is someone who wants only p and I just think both 668 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:07,639 of those positions are kind of childish and not wise, and we should we 669 00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:12,639 should be wise predators, you know, one way. I don't know if 670 00:50:12,679 --> 00:50:15,480 that sounds too like bloodthirsty or war hungry, but we should be wise in 671 00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:22,800 when we are going out there. Which so none of those like the the 672 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,039 extreme positions put out. But I don't like it when you call someone a 673 00:50:25,079 --> 00:50:30,679 hawk who believes in oh, I don't know, like decades long occupation of 674 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:37,320 an area, no desire to actually win a war and secure victory and get 675 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,960 out like that doesn't seem like a wise predator. So I don't like the 676 00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:44,840 use of the term to describe people who are just for these like sprawling ways 677 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:52,800 of giving money to international non governmental organizations and feeding defense contractors. Like there's 678 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,880 nothing wise about that, So stop using a wise animal to describe it. 679 00:50:58,119 --> 00:51:00,280 Let's do culture. Do you want me to start? Do you want to 680 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,679 start? I want you to start. David did a lot of stuff this 681 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:09,920 week, so let me start with this. I went to Norfolk, Virginia, 682 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,920 and the Chrysler Museum, which is actually a really nice museum. They 683 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:22,039 had a Paul McCartney's photographs from nineteen sixty for when they came to visit America. 684 00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:24,400 So he was like a photography, you like photography, and they have 685 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:30,519 all his like photographs from when they first came to United States. So they 686 00:51:30,599 --> 00:51:35,480 came to New York, famous lyche Stadium played the actually took street scenes, 687 00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:38,280 you know, pictures of New York. I love looking at old pictures of 688 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,079 New York, you know, I'm a big fan of that. And then 689 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,079 they went to d C as well, which I didn't know that I knew 690 00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:49,440 or not, And so there's pictures of DC. And it is funny how 691 00:51:49,519 --> 00:51:53,119 much that that's it. He has been built up over since that time, 692 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:59,599 you know what I mean? So that I mean it was an actual small 693 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:05,440 until very recently, I would say, right, yeah, so that was 694 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,440 pretty interesting. It's it's not a huge now, but it's pretty nice. 695 00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:12,280 Curious you say he took pictures. Of course, he was famously married to 696 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,760 Linda Eastman of the Eastman Kodak you know, right, folks, So like 697 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,719 that was later, I believe, right, I'm just wondering if that related 698 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,639 to how they met or anything. I don't know. I'm gonna be honest. 699 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,719 I'm not a huge I'm not a I shouldn't say I'm not a huge 700 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,920 Beatles fan. I'm not a Beatles fan really at all. So I like 701 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:36,000 the White Album, or used to. I never would listen to the Beatles 702 00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:37,920 today, so I don't know much. I'd never read any books on them 703 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,159 or anything. I do very much like the Beatles, but I always felt 704 00:52:42,519 --> 00:52:46,679 very strongly that the Beach Boys were sort of a hidden there was a hidden 705 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:51,119 brilliance in the Beach Boys where I think a lot of people were always like, 706 00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:52,559 oh, Beatles, Beatles, Beatles. And I'm just mentioning that because 707 00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:58,519 Mike Wilson's are wait what is his name? The beach Boy guy's wife died 708 00:52:58,639 --> 00:53:02,440 yesterday. Wow, yeah, Will Simmons his first name. I don't know. 709 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:07,440 Yeah. I mean I would prefer to listen to pet Sounds over anything 710 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:12,559 the Beatles did, obviously. I always thought the Stones were better, and 711 00:53:12,599 --> 00:53:15,719 I actually think Brian Wilson Brian, sorry, Mike, and I'm a big 712 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,920 fan of the Kinks, so I thought those bands are all better than the 713 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:27,039 Beatles. I'm also just fascinating how good the Beatles are together, and then 714 00:53:27,159 --> 00:53:30,880 how they weren't so amazing apart, and how much they made in such a 715 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:36,440 short period of time. They were prolific when you really think about how short 716 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,960 that, yeah, their their existence was. I would say that Paul McCartney 717 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,719 just I don't like this kind of music, but just from a pop music 718 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,320 perspective, was much more talented songwriter than John Lennon if you look at their 719 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:53,679 solo careers, right, yes, yeah, and yet John had something ren 720 00:53:53,920 --> 00:54:00,719 Saqua about like that madded the magic to it, like they really it's really 721 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,159 cool how great they were. And I was watching this thing of a middle 722 00:54:04,159 --> 00:54:08,719 school teacher who was confused because her students wanted to hear John Denver's Country Roads, 723 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:14,039 and she's like, this makes no sense why they're so into this music. 724 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:19,280 And I think that with the Baby Boomers, you had them like so 725 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,239 into the Beatles, so into the Beach Boys, and then they would have 726 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,480 sort of say, nothing matched that in the seventies or eighties. But when 727 00:54:25,519 --> 00:54:30,440 you think about the current musical situation, which I listened to a lot of 728 00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:36,159 current music, and some of it is just amazingly, like mind blowingly good, 729 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:43,039 but that big pop music stuff is frequently auto tuned, It is produced 730 00:54:43,159 --> 00:54:47,920 within an inch of its life, and you lose the like human connection that 731 00:54:49,039 --> 00:54:52,199 just makes you want to like cry and like you feel it so deep in 732 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:58,239 you with a lot of this overproduced stuff, and so to go back, 733 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,559 you know, And I know a big story of big part of the is 734 00:55:00,599 --> 00:55:02,480 about some of what they were doing production wise that I had never been done 735 00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:06,639 before. But there's like a way you can go too far, I think, 736 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,639 and that young young kids are kind of hungry for more of the connection 737 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:15,000 that you could get with live music played by talented artists as opposed to producers. 738 00:55:16,119 --> 00:55:20,599 I was just thinking about this actually, because the reason I liked the 739 00:55:20,679 --> 00:55:22,960 music I liked when I was growing up was because I thought that pop music 740 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,159 was way overproduced and it sounded fake, and I like the kind of like 741 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:32,320 rawness of you know, and I guess humanity of normal music. But it's 742 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:36,679 interesting, I think because of the streaming. Like I think we've mentioned this 743 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,199 before, but if I wanted to experiment with music when I was a kid 744 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,559 in the eighties, I had to like literally come up with some money and 745 00:55:40,599 --> 00:55:44,079 take a chance on something. It wasn't that easy. I can go on 746 00:55:44,119 --> 00:55:46,760 YouTube and listen to it. But today kids can like go in any direction. 747 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:51,119 They want listen to anything they want, and that's I think open them 748 00:55:51,199 --> 00:55:52,559 up to a lot of music because you see a lot of these bands that 749 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:57,320 not a lot of folks liked when when I was young, But now they 750 00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,360 go on like reunion tours and like kids are in the audience and you know 751 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,079 what I mean, So they've like rediscovered all this music. I think that 752 00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:06,480 that a lot of people because whatever was on the radio or MTV is what 753 00:56:06,519 --> 00:56:08,199 we had, right, so you either listen to that or you have to 754 00:56:08,199 --> 00:56:10,480 go like right, you'd be like, oh, I like it. I 755 00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:15,519 like three bands from this label, so probably this band is also on that 756 00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:17,639 label will be good, bigger. That's exactly what I did. I Yeah, 757 00:56:17,639 --> 00:56:21,159 I have to trust label, like these indie labels that they were going 758 00:56:21,199 --> 00:56:22,480 to sign bands that I liked, and sometimes they were terrible, right, 759 00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:25,599 and then you just spent twelve bucks, which was a lot a lot of 760 00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:29,320 money for you then you know, or whatever it was. You know. 761 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:30,920 So so I think streamings opened it up for a lot of people. And 762 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:36,199 that's interesting that they you know that they're rediscovering stuff that's like that. You 763 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,679 know that I love seventies music. It sounds much more intimate, you know, 764 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:43,280 than like you see these like you mentioned this new music, you'll see 765 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,440 like there's eighteen songwriters and like fifteen producers, and you're like, this is 766 00:56:46,519 --> 00:56:51,000 ridiculous. So yeah, I guess I don't know where I'm going with that. 767 00:56:51,039 --> 00:56:52,719 But anyway, it was interesting to see those photographs. I didn't think 768 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,719 they were great. I gotta be honest. I like the street scenes a 769 00:56:55,719 --> 00:57:00,000 lot better than like the photos of Ringo or whatever. Maybe because I've seen 770 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,800 so many Beatles photos over the you know, and such a like, it's 771 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:07,519 just oversaturated with that stuff. So I went to a museum too, actually 772 00:57:07,639 --> 00:57:10,239 nice two museums. They weren't well. The first one was not so nice. 773 00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:15,960 It was the Hershorn, which is so dependent on what is touring at 774 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:22,840 that moment, and it only has like three exhibits at any time, and 775 00:57:22,079 --> 00:57:24,920 one of the floors was about to change out, so it was more like 776 00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:31,760 two. You know, if you are into gender theory, you would love 777 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,960 the Hershorn right now, and if you're not into it, it's just kind 778 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,719 of boring. And I was there with my kids, and I was talking 779 00:57:37,719 --> 00:57:43,719 to them about how sometimes like the greatest art happens with constraints, and we 780 00:57:43,719 --> 00:57:46,519 were discussing how maybe one of the problems with art right now is the lack 781 00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:52,159 of constraints leads to a boring you know, it kind of makes everything boring 782 00:57:52,719 --> 00:57:57,840 and then also just flattens everything. And so one of the things they had 783 00:57:58,039 --> 00:58:02,880 was some kind of like video exhibit of exploring how gender isn't real or what 784 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,800 like boring, Oh my lord. And I was talking them about how, 785 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:14,559 like, for me, being a female, if you understand that you're either 786 00:58:14,599 --> 00:58:19,280 male or female, and that being male or female doesn't actually define what type 787 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,159 of person you are, Like there are certain things that it defines, but 788 00:58:22,199 --> 00:58:24,480 then there's a lot that it doesn't. That's actually much more liberating than when 789 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:29,360 you have to say, like, I'm gender non binary, queer conforming, 790 00:58:29,559 --> 00:58:36,119 like left days are male right days or female Like it makes you just it 791 00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:40,320 makes you a much less interesting person. The most transgressive thing an artist can 792 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:45,280 do is draw a picture that everyone recognizes of a man and a woman, 793 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,320 right, That would be like the most rebellious thing they can do. And 794 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,199 I'm a big fan of like abstract expressionism and stuff like that because I like 795 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:57,239 it whatever. I just think it's cool to look at. But are today 796 00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,039 is always trying to like lecturing me whenever I go to some modern exhibit, 797 00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:04,800 and it's so annoying, don't you think? Yes? But also like, 798 00:59:05,719 --> 00:59:09,280 oh, oh, you want to challenge our understanding of what it means to 799 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:15,599 be a woman by making a banana with seeds. Oh, I've never been 800 00:59:15,719 --> 00:59:22,079 so provoked in my life. But then we also went to the Freer Gallery 801 00:59:22,519 --> 00:59:24,800 in DC. Have you been there? I don't know. I have to 802 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,360 say one thing. I can't believe I'm saying these words. That's great about 803 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,079 DCS that you can just visit museums for free. I don't know if this 804 00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:34,920 one is, but just all all these great museums, I'm obsessed with pointing 805 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,400 out that it's not free, that you have already paid for it with your 806 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,320 test sellars, and so there's not an additional charge when you go. I 807 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,920 hate that you're the one who maade that point. Okay, but yes, 808 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,119 having said that, the Freer is one of my favorite museums on the on 809 00:59:47,199 --> 00:59:52,559 the mall, and it is it has a focus on Asian art, it 810 00:59:52,679 --> 00:59:57,280 feels i've been there, like going to a museum from one hundred years ago 811 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:02,360 where actually educated people put together the collection and thought about the right amount of 812 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:07,119 words to explain it. And it has, you know, all sorts of 813 01:00:07,159 --> 01:00:09,559 different kinds of Asian art. And then it's sort of mostly well known for 814 01:00:09,639 --> 01:00:15,079 the Peacock Room, the Whistler Peacock Room where they recreated the dining room with 815 01:00:15,159 --> 01:00:22,880 the peacock wallpaper and the art and the artifacts. It was. So I'm 816 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,880 not super in like in my personal life, I don't have a lot of 817 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:34,760 Asian art other than this big camphor wood chest that my husband got from his 818 01:00:35,079 --> 01:00:37,880 grandfather who had like you know, picked it up in Laos or something. 819 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:44,519 I don't know which is beautiful, but it's very It was very inspirational for 820 01:00:44,679 --> 01:00:47,800 us, and it made us think about different things we could do with our 821 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:52,719 home decor and and other art that we're working on as a family. And 822 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:57,480 I just loved it. That's great. Yeah, I think I've been there. 823 01:00:58,079 --> 01:01:01,519 I'm a big fan of going to museums. It is inspirational and even 824 01:01:01,519 --> 01:01:09,039 if you're just laughing at the nonsensical modern art installations speaking of low so that's 825 01:01:09,159 --> 01:01:13,360 high or middle brow culture. I'd say let's go low brown. Now. 826 01:01:13,519 --> 01:01:17,000 I saw this comedian on Netflix. I watched a special Dusty Sleigh. Have 827 01:01:17,079 --> 01:01:21,840 you ever seen this guy? I tried watching that because the thing on Netflix 828 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:27,239 said that it was family friendly. So I was watching it with some underage 829 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,320 people who live in my house, and it was all and he's clearly a 830 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:36,639 recovering addict. That the jokes were all about drug use and alcohol use, 831 01:01:36,679 --> 01:01:39,199 and I'm like, why did they call this family friendly? I mean, 832 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:45,800 there's nothing family friendly about drug I guess. I guess because he doesn't curse, 833 01:01:45,559 --> 01:01:51,079 and it's not about sex, right, yes, And I mean we 834 01:01:51,159 --> 01:01:55,239 talk about drugs and alcohol because we're hemingways, so we have to because of 835 01:01:55,480 --> 01:02:00,679 the family situation. So it's not like I'm averse to talking about it. 836 01:02:00,719 --> 01:02:04,679 But I also felt like it was normalizing abuse of drugs and alcohol. But 837 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,480 I think it so colored my opinion that I'm not able to think clearly. 838 01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:13,480 Did you like it? It was okay? You know it was. I 839 01:02:13,519 --> 01:02:16,880 think he, you know, was talking about Middle America a lot, you 840 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,960 know, so I kind of liked that. I'm sick of, like, 841 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,199 you know, comedians who just talk about in New York or whatever, So 842 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,840 I don't know. It was all right. So did you see the part 843 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:30,280 where he was talking about doing a Ted Talk on it was Great The bright 844 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,800 Side of Life when they were and he's explaining that he didn't prepare, but 845 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:38,239 the lady like right before him, super prepared. But she was talking about 846 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:43,519 what was she talking about, like going to the bathroom, hooping at a 847 01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:47,760 wal Mart or something, I forget what it was. And then he opened 848 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,519 with that. But and so when they played it, there was no context, 849 01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:54,320 so people just think that he was So we went and looked at the 850 01:02:54,360 --> 01:03:00,239 Ted Talk. Yeah, and it is actually even funnier than he describes because 851 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:01,599 yeah, he just walks out and he's like, I'm pooped in a lot 852 01:03:01,679 --> 01:03:07,440 of Walmarts and then he just moves on and mays no sense, but everyone 853 01:03:07,519 --> 01:03:12,079 laughs because the person before was taped. Yeah, but they Yeah, so 854 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,280 that was one of the funnier things he talked about. He was okay, 855 01:03:15,519 --> 01:03:21,400 he was. Also, we did we did like the Afghan thing where he's 856 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,800 growing up in a trailer. His grandma makes all these Afghans and he said 857 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:29,119 they're like blankets. They're like for when you're hot and cold because like the 858 01:03:29,159 --> 01:03:32,599 breeze can come in, and he accidentally is viewing his grandmother changing and he 859 01:03:32,639 --> 01:03:37,519 throws a blanket over his head, but he can still see everything, so 860 01:03:37,559 --> 01:03:43,159 it looks like he's actually trying to see his grandmother. Sorry. And also 861 01:03:43,239 --> 01:03:45,840 he was like, this forms you as a young man when you see your 862 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,639 grandmother naked, and he's like, and that's why I'm not a boobs man, 863 01:03:50,039 --> 01:03:53,119 you know. But yeah, he talked about Yeah, I just like, 864 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:58,199 I don't know. Then there's a lot about drugs. There's a lot 865 01:03:58,239 --> 01:04:01,239 about drugs, mostly about marijuana on right, So I don't know. I 866 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,559 was just panicking and I didn't pay attention. Yeah, no, I get 867 01:04:04,599 --> 01:04:09,559 it, I get it. It seems like you did enjoy that though pretty 868 01:04:09,599 --> 01:04:14,679 much this is the funniest thing I've ever seen. No, I really did. 869 01:04:14,719 --> 01:04:15,880 And that's actually what bothered me though, was like I was kind of 870 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,920 getting into the first part and I'm watching them with kids, and then I 871 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:24,599 actually had to turn it off, so I don't I don't know. It 872 01:04:24,719 --> 01:04:30,199 was okay. I watched two Oscar Best Picture Oscar nominees. One I finish 873 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:35,000 was Killers of the Flower Moon, which again beautifully made I think it's way 874 01:04:35,039 --> 01:04:39,559 too long. I think the script falls apart in the second half. I 875 01:04:39,559 --> 01:04:42,599 think that's a there's a huge script problem with that movie. I don't really 876 01:04:42,639 --> 01:04:47,920 get it. Secondly, I watched The Holdovers Ooh, which it was fine. 877 01:04:48,159 --> 01:04:51,480 It was it was okay, it was okay, it's fun to watch. 878 01:04:51,519 --> 01:04:56,159 I just don't really And maybe maybe my expectations of a Best Picture nominee 879 01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,360 are too high, or maybe there's no there are no movies that meet that 880 01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:04,199 standard anymore. I don't know. Then I watched a movie called Call Call 881 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:08,960 the Wild with Harrison Ford. Have you have you seen this version of it? 882 01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:12,480 Is it the Jack London Calls Jack London book? I went and went 883 01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,840 and read with the Jack London book. I've never read Jack London books. 884 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,280 I have no interest in them. But I read the plot and it is 885 01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:26,119 much more politically incorrect than this movie might lead you to believe, with the 886 01:05:26,239 --> 01:05:30,559 killing of Indians and so on or eskimos or whatever. Then this is what 887 01:05:30,599 --> 01:05:34,920 I really wanted to talk about. Was I watched a show called Love on 888 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,920 the Spectrum. Have you ever watched this? It's like a reality show. 889 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:43,599 I've heard about it from other people and I've never watched it and probably never 890 01:05:43,719 --> 01:05:46,920 will, but go on. It's really sweet and it's nice to see people 891 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:53,679 with you know who struggle finding other people were like them and finding love and 892 01:05:53,719 --> 01:05:57,360 so on. But you know, some of it's a struggle, it is. 893 01:05:57,719 --> 01:06:00,639 At first, I thought it was going to be just exploiting these people, 894 01:06:00,679 --> 01:06:02,519 but I think they actually handled really well. They're on you know, 895 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,639 various extents on the spectrum. Sometimes I'm a little uncomfortable with it because I'm 896 01:06:06,679 --> 01:06:10,920 like, I kind of do what this person's doing, you know a little 897 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,000 bit, and I'm not comparing myself. These are real struggles, but I'm 898 01:06:14,079 --> 01:06:17,480 like, I have trouble like knowing when to hug someone like this or that, 899 01:06:17,559 --> 01:06:20,920 and I'm like, oh my god. But overall, I actually thought 900 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:26,480 it was a sweet show, and it kind of there's some down syndrome people 901 01:06:26,519 --> 01:06:29,840 as well. And I always get angry when I see how sweet and loving 902 01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:33,159 they are that people want to them get rid of kill them, and that 903 01:06:33,239 --> 01:06:36,360 always makes me angry. And I think a show like this allows people to 904 01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:42,000 see how human and great they are, you know. So I don't know. 905 01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:46,039 So that's what I watched. Oh that other comedian that we talked about 906 01:06:46,119 --> 01:06:49,840 recently. Who was the one that got fired from Saturday Night Live for not 907 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:54,880 being a left wing for Shane Gillis Shane gi Yeah, and I think he 908 01:06:55,360 --> 01:07:00,880 has something in there about that's great. Is uncle who has down to and 909 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,039 he's just kind of joking about, like, why would you not want this? 910 01:07:04,039 --> 01:07:08,519 This is like living your best life. He's like the happiest guy wherever 911 01:07:08,559 --> 01:07:12,280 they are. I love the thing about him, sneaking sandwiches and everywhere, 912 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:17,480 and yeah, it just it does make me mad when I think about that. 913 01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:23,920 But so I think a show like this, which just shows the struggles 914 01:07:24,119 --> 01:07:27,760 that these people and their families go through and how they also you know, 915 01:07:29,239 --> 01:07:33,159 yearned for the same sort of relationships and life that everyone else, you know, 916 01:07:33,199 --> 01:07:38,679 they see around them has is is a positive thing, you know, 917 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:44,800 And so it's okay, I'm you know, whatever, that's it for me. 918 01:07:45,199 --> 01:07:50,199 You have anything also you've did. I was traveling a lot in Georgia 919 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:56,840 and Florida last week and then I didn't have like a ton of time. 920 01:07:57,639 --> 01:08:00,920 But I did see a movie with my h that he wrote about that was 921 01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:08,639 unbelievable. It's called The Second Civil War and it was a made for HBO 922 01:08:08,639 --> 01:08:14,840 film from I want to say, like the late nineties. I think it 923 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,560 was ninety eight or seven your market. And first off, it has Phil 924 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,239 Hartman, and I believe Phil Hartman is like the greatest person in the history 925 01:08:20,239 --> 01:08:25,319 of the world, so I will watch anything he plays the president. And 926 01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:33,560 it's a satire of a politics of exploitation where you use immigration to affect political 927 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:42,119 outcomes. It is a satire of the cable news complex that exploits situations for 928 01:08:42,279 --> 01:08:46,880 ratings. And it's really well done and it was like watching a document like 929 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:50,479 a very funny documentary of what's going on right now, except that it also 930 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:57,359 leads to war where people are killed. So the premise is that Idaho, 931 01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,439 which has already been flooded with one hundred or sorry with one million immigrants, 932 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:10,800 closes its borders as the President is sending a plane filled with child refugees from 933 01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:15,560 a nuclear blast in Pakistan to the to the state, but they close all 934 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:21,000 their borders and it then the advisors to the president are like, you have 935 01:09:21,039 --> 01:09:25,079 to be strong on this, so you have to like push back. And 936 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:30,560 also they're dealing with like if this immigrant group comes into this state, that 937 01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,960 will help your electoral prospects there and you know all that kind of stuff, 938 01:09:34,239 --> 01:09:39,279 and it just gets into the absurd where the sort of bumbling governor of Idaho 939 01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:45,720 played by Bo Bridges, who's having an affair with the Mexican reporter for the 940 01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:49,560 cable news network that's there. He kind of like there's like a subplot there, 941 01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:54,760 but there are funny things like Rhode Island has been taken over by millions 942 01:09:54,760 --> 01:10:00,520 of Chinese immigrants, and then they join Idaho's battle to stop the flood of 943 01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,880 immigration because they're like, we can't handle any more immigration. So of course, 944 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:08,720 like the presidential advisors think they're going to be on one side, but 945 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,880 they're on the other. And then they think they've got this sick member of 946 01:10:13,159 --> 01:10:16,239 which is actually how you say, seek sick member of Congress from Alabama who 947 01:10:16,239 --> 01:10:20,800 also sides with Idaho because he doesn't get the funding he needs for his for 948 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:24,640 his temples down there. You know, like there's all sorts of like absurdity. 949 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:30,960 You've got black activists in LA that shoot at the at the Mexican mayor 950 01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:35,560 of Los Angeles because you know, it's just like all the things like everything 951 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:40,920 gets not the way you expect it to go, and it's very well done. 952 01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:46,640 So is it medic but like do they play it straight? But it's 953 01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:51,720 just like satirical or is it like just an outright comedy. It's it's it's 954 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:57,640 just satire, okay, and you have people battling over it and like not 955 01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,640 being too cartoonish on either side for being a satire, there's the cartoonish aspect, 956 01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:06,960 but like they do a good job of presenting both sides. And where'd 957 01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:10,640 you watch us? Is it on like HBO Max or I don't know how 958 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:14,399 to turn on my TV, much to my husband's chagrin, So anything I 959 01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,399 watch he has prepared and placed on the TV, and I have no idea 960 01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,880 where he think. So if you want to watch this movie, you'll have 961 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:25,800 to talk to Mark Hemmingway or ask Mark Hemingway on Twitter how to go about 962 01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:30,000 it? All right? That that actually sounds pretty interesting. I'm going to 963 01:11:30,039 --> 01:11:31,520 look look for that. And there's a piece if you want. If people 964 01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:38,359 want to read on at the Federalist dot com, we should also mention again 965 01:11:39,119 --> 01:11:41,560 you always remind me, but I think we should say give out the email 966 01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,600 address. So radio at the Federalist dot com is where you can reach us. 967 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,880 We always like to get your mail, and until next week we'll talk 968 01:11:46,920 --> 01:12:01,039 to them. Be Love's a freedom and interest for the level Ji