I'm okay, I just smoked another in the face. She want to stay
singing to your beach. I go with Drake. I'm just trying to tell
me you love me. You can't keep it. Really, if you really
don't trust me, you come with a real you get up in the front
so you get my meals. I'm conning for the money, money in the
bank, coming with a screlia, taking with the game. You sitting on
the side of the trip, I go to the whole with the rock light
pippot, I'm okay, what up? And welcome to one of that wents
Live wars dot com. Join my guys from morecs. Chris Nicholas call Detroit
Marile, let's go. How'd you do it? Sorry? If you had
had one and that was that's kind of wild. How did you see the
bad Wings? One? Red Wings back shot the game tonight? Figure big
game. I made a point, Yes they need all the points. Didn't
get up until the captain comes back, shout Dylan Lark and he will up
soon. Speaking of Detroit Red Wings. And I don't know if I put
this in slack. I don't think I did. But if you if you
follow myself on x you fall, Spencer on ax, if you fall Darren
McCarty on next, Uh, there was what buffs? Yeah, like yeah,
where'd you got? It was almost like a ketchup state lying with some
buffs on Hell yeah, it's almost yours. It should be yours. It's
mine. No, no, no, I was gonna give it to you,
you know. Oh yeah, yeah, either way, if you follow
Darren McCarty stole that somebody came to my house. I don't remember by that.
You follow Darren McCarty On next, they were talking about the physicality of
the sport with I think he Daddy was the other person's name who's follow and
some other I don't even know this guy's name. To be honest with,
you went on there and and you what fuck this. I'm gonna find the
exact tweet. I'm gonna read it word for word because he went at Darren
McCarty and he said that, you know, if you ever played the sport
at a high level, yeah, I don't know if you've ever played the
sport before, but if you have, and he tried to he was man's
plating hockey to Darren McCarty, which I mean, you just look like a
dufis of all human beings. Yeah, that's the that's the one, okay,
So I'll give context to it. They're talking about physicality in hockey.
This is Darren's tweet. It says rule number one, get out of the
way. Rule number two. Yeah you're gonna get hit. Oh yeah,
you said that. He was about a hit on Connor Bdard where Connor Bdard
was standing away from the boards and got hit somewhat late. But you know
it didn't brace himself at all. Yeah, it didn't brace himself, wasn't
against the boards, so he kind of got thrown into the boards. And
you know Chicago fans, we know how shitty Chicago fans are, so they're
all crying he got hit. He's playing hockey with and d Max said,
this is the things you learn in hockey. Number one, get close to
the boards because if you're gonna get hit, fucking you want to be on
the boards, not two feet. He's like two feet away from boards equals
death. So then this guy tried to man's playing hockey to four times Stanley
Cup champion Darren McCarty. Graham Meek says false in all caps, not sure
if you're played the game, but those of who have played at a high
level know that the best way to maintain possession is to turn your back to
the other player and hopefully draw a penalty. Go back to your video games,
period. That's terrible to Darren McCay. Even if you don't know who
Darren is, if you click on his bio, it says four times Stanley
Cup champion. Like, if you played the game at a four times Stanley
Cup champion, what do you mean? He's been around the best, He's
played against the best. What a fucking tool bag this guy is. He
was literally on the greatest team ever assembled in the history of hockey. Come
on, like, do you have it? You just do it on up
there. I just want to show that this, this tweet actually exists.
This this dumbass is out there. Yeah, taking up all the good oxygen.
So find him. I'm playing done crazy some guy. We need the
Swifties to get on this man, We really do. Graham mink, I
really wish I could see this guy's face once he realized. I mean,
if if you know hockey, you know Darren is too. Like it's not
and he's like an old guy from the looks of it. He's I can
understand. I you're like a younger kid, because like the whole it would
happen after we were born, like we were like what we little toddless whatever
you want to say, this guy, you if you know a game that
well, you've been around that long. You see the name. Everyone who
knows hockey knows who Darren McCarty is. And it literally says his name too.
It's it's it's crazy. Anyone who is who watches hockey, who likes
hockey, knows who Darren McCarty is. He is the centerpiece of one of
the most iconic days in the history of the NHL. So like, yeah,
you, if you don't know who Darren mccurty is, you're just a
loser. Fight night at the Joe. Yeah, twenty days. Just want
to call that guy out for being And happy birthday. Happy forty seventh birthday
to Officer Anakin in the Wiolbard sports chat shout out. I hope you have
a great day, man. Yeah, if it is your seventeenth, happy
seventeenth. But I think we all know Officer last night seventeenth. Yeah,
come on off, you know you're not trinking anybody. Officer almost got Chris,
but he almost got happy to call you out. Happy birthday to you,
brother, I hope you have a great day. A fun fact about
Chris that came across on the internet last night. They said, any grown
man who owns a cat, just a cat, there's just something's wrong there.
They're a little old Johnish, just maybe olden John's maybe a little bit
of a psychopath. I mean he gets to be allergic to cats personally.
No, not at all, because that's just something you can't right, I
guess. I guess being a guy who wants own cat, you can't help
either. But yeah, and I think it makes sense. It adds up
with everything else we can want. Chris cared to comments on the cat accusations
that you may be a little strange because you have a cat. I do
own a cat. What is the second one? Lions lose a legend to
the Commanders. Yeah, a long time Detroit Lions legend. Zach Ertz signed
with the Commanders the one year deal. His tenure in Detroit will not be
forgotten. It will not be forgotten. The very appreciative of the moments he
gave to us and Detroit Lions, Honolulu Blue, his contributions to everything we've
done in the past three years is just it's unforgettable stuff, man, And
I just wanted to shout out zach Ertz for the time he spent Detroit.
I think he deserves that moment. Zach Ertz pivotal, pivotal for the Detroit
Lions NFC Championship run. I mean, everyone wants to be decided about Sambaporta.
If there's no zach Ertz, there's no Sampor. He did a lot,
it's it's extremely you know, what he done for the Detroit Lions can't
be He can't be taught, can't it can't be just you can't just go
out and get a guy, you know, late in the season to provide
you the same kind of impact that zach Ertz has on a team, like
he carried this team on his back to the NFC Championship game. And he
will be forgot. I mean he won't be forgotten. Never forget Jack Ertz.
Zach Ertz the guy that should have been should have been in when Anthony
Frisker had that catch in the NFC Championship game and was two yards short of
the end zone. Should have been zach Ertz. I still think he would
have got in. Yeah, yeah, zach Ertz Man, I appreciate you.
I know, the Detroit Lion departing from I can't say the departyment a
Detroit Lions sound weird to say it like that. Jerry Jacob's officially done with
the Detroit Lions. Yeah, that was already speculated. I know there's a
tweet in there from that one. Chris is not your brother your brother in
arms? Yes, my brother in arms. Jerry Jacobs moving on from the
Detroit Lions. And to be honest with you too, here is Jerry Jacobs
tweet. He says, forever thankful for Detroit. I swear giving a kid
from Atlanta, Georgia a chance at the biggest stage of football. I would
never forget thank you for letting a kid from Atlanta, Georgia shine. I
will always cherish the city that helped me become my dream. Forever grateful Jerry
Jacobs and shout out to Jerry Jacobs, Shout out to seat belt. It's
h He's a great guy man, great guy, great dude. Always showed
the Heavies love whenever we saw him. Very cool guy, you know,
coming off the couch doing what he did not a lot of people can do.
So man props to him. Hopefully you land on your feet wherever you're
going. Maybe it's the Falcons. Maybe maybe you go to the Falcons.
So we'll see Bud. Shout out Jerry. Fourness absence this year for him
too times. You could argue that he was CB one here in Detroit,
but wishing him the best. I hope he goes to a system or scheme
that fits him where he's able to be the best version of himself. I
don't know that that was that was a situation here. I'm not I'm not
I'm not saying he's a bad player. I don't think he's a bad player.
Like he may go somewhere and shine. I just I hope you go
somewhere that has a pass rush. Yeah, so he sat on an island
all day because we saw what happens. But good luck to Jerry in the
future. Yes, wishing the best to Jerry and one more other piece before
we get out of here. We're before we get out of here, we're
not leaving anything. Make sure guys hit that light. But I just want
to hey, Dion, do you want to come on the show a little
bit later today, I'm done, all right, Dian will be joined the
show. I answered the phone live on here, all right, I'm gonna
text you a link forget we'll figure out time or whatever. I saw your
Cornerbacks video, so I want to break that down or tease it. All
right, all right, bet teasing the show. And then for you guys,
if you're just standing, you're out. You got something going on Tomorrow
we'll be joined by the p f F lead draft analyst, Trevis Sikamau.
He'll be joining us as well. We'll be having a great, great week,
great week next week working on some big names to fallow. Detroit Lions
free agency. Uh, we'll see what's the come of that situation. We
got lots of money to spend, but Brad does it sounding he wants to
spend it on Wanet particular players as song as he's gonna get a handful instead
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was. I'm kind of disappointed with the tie players is hoping like something from
Thailand. It actually answer what was someone from Thailand and something like he's I
don't know, Nick, you tell us fall football fans and Thailand football fans
and Thailand. I got Detroit Pistons the beginning because I know, like the
show gets wrong, like like not everybody's in right away, So I figured
we'd get like the boring shit out of the way or or towards the end.
That's typically how I do. Put the trash in the front. But
how do you guys want to do this? You want to just dump it
to the back end, or you want to get it out the way?
Get it the way, all right? Detroit Pistons signed to a ten day
contract. Thirty eight year old gets look Out signed to the Detroit Pistons,
And I guess that means absolutely nothing at this point. They are not making
any type of playoff, they're not making any type of play in, They're
not contending for anything. I thought we were done experimenting with lineup, So
I don't know why that's a thing look Out? Is it a veteran the
ship thing that? And hire him as a coach? I mean, what
what is this now? He's got ties to the tellms. It's that's what
it is. It's not a soldier boy to tell them it's the end of
the Pistons franchise. To tell him like, I'm fucking done with this ship.
Man. Get everybody out of here. Get everybody whose hands had hands
in the creation of this team, everybody with hands to get them out of
there. I want nums in the front. If you had a hand in
creating this team. If you had a hand into assembling this team, you
should be fired. You should lose your job. I'm not in the business
of calling for men's jobs. I want everybody to be able to feed their
family. But the tell thems don't deserve to feed their families. Troy Weaver
is a terrorist. All these guys out of here. I've been saying this
for a couple of months. Now, clear the front office to get get
Nobody in that front office deserves to have a job, nobody. You cannot
consistently put out this garbage product for years and years and year and just be
like, oh, well, we're trying. We're gonna stop experimenting. I
promise we're gonna try to win next year. That's when we're really gonna do
it. I know we were the worst team in the NBA last year and
we're gonna be it again this year. But next year we're really gonna buckle
down and try to win. I don't give a fuck. Get these bums
out of my franchise. Goodbye, good riddance, good day, sir.
Like get rid of them, rest and piss. Let the door hit you
in the ass on the way out. Tell him's weaver Monty. Anybody in
that front office with a pulse should be drawn and quartered. Get him out
of here. I'm not going to so quit aster. Tom gores from his
cruise. Yeah, is drunken Cabo sitping on of my tie and he thinks
the Pistons record is in reverse. He's like, Oh, we're the best
team of all time. Tom, get off your ass and do something.
It is your job to make executive decisions. I don't give a shit if
they're your drinking buddies. I don't give a shit if they help you bury
a hooker in your backyard. Fire These guys they suck. They can't do
their jobs. They shouldn't be employed. Get rid of them. They are
ruining a story franchise in the history of the NBA, and you're playing a
major role in it. Goodbye, good day, sir. You don't deserve
to own an NBA franchise. Adam Silver step in. Get this bull out
of here. Force him to sell the team. This is embarrassing. Fuck
Christopher. Let him come shit, Honey, I got it. Promotion.
You'll never believe what happened today. No, I'm echoing everything Spencer said at
this point there's there's just a pure lack of accountability all the way, all
the way around these favors. The fact that you're taking a franchise that's already
losing more games than any other franchise in the NBA, and only two other
franchises in all of American sports have more losses over the last decade than the
Pistons. And the fact that you're taking that franchise and you're using it as
a stopping ground to retool your sons or your or your friends, uh,
pathetic clients, the ones that are barely hanging on to NBA life. If
Todd Gibson got let go of by Tim, Tim Thibodeau, Tom Thibodeau,
whatever, Tim, Tom, whatever, Tom whoever, if you got if
you got let go of by that guy, bro, it's over for you.
He held on to Joke Kim Noah for seven extra years, He held
on to he held on to those Chicago Bulls players like crazy. And the
fact that Todd Gibson twelve years ago, sure that would have been a great
signing, but now no, it's not. This is just another favor that
this team is, that this team is doing, and instead of using that
roster spot to actually take young guys in a worthless season, put them in
a position and see if you can win some damn games. You are instead
wasting it on favors. This is disgusting all the way around. I'd like
to try to give Troy Weaver his credit for his dress and some of the
moves he's made. I've liked to I have the idea of Tom Gores,
an owner that's willing to spend, that didn't want to move this team away
when there was rumors that this team was getting bought, that it might be
moved away. I wanted to give him the benefit of doubt. But you
know what, that's past due. That time is up and there's no more
Grace Pier, there's no more favors. We need results as a franchise,
because this is one of the best franchises in the NBA. This has its
top five in the NBA and championships. This is a historic franchise that just
fifteen years ago had one of the best eight year stretches any franchise has had
in the NBA, one of the best winning percentages, and now you flip
that in the last decade they've had the worst in the NBA. The Sacramento
Kings look at us and laugh, what are we doing? Fuck? What
are we doing? The Charlotte Hornets have players, have players sipping wan and
doing all sorts of crazy things that they're like, Yeah, well, we're
not Detroit. That's crazy to me. It's just it's terrible all the way
around, and results need to happen immediately. I can't keep arguing with these
fucking twelve year olds on Twitter about how the Detroit Pistons are one of the
greatest franchises in NBA history because they don't know that. They haven't seen the
Pistons win a playoff game in their lives, not a series, not a
championship, a playoff game, singular one. You're done. You should be
done. Adam Silver step in, like, what are you doing? Detroit
Basketball is a thing the city of Detroit rides with their teams, and the
Pistons are one of those teams. They have been one of those teams.
They've adopted the identity of Detroit multiple times. This is ruining the image of
the Pistons for everyone. When the Pistons are good, I know you guys
don't like it. I know the NBA doesn't like it when the Pistons are
good, But when the Pistons are good, it's good for basketball because Detroit
is a big basketball spot. A lot of I know some people on the
air will tell you nobody gets a shit about the Pistons. They don't have
any fans. They're bull they're bullshitting you. They're just straight up fucking line
to you. The Pistons have a huge fan base, they have a lot
of supporters, and they deserve better than this horseshit product you've been putting out.
And Tom Gorris, this is on you. I've had my rant about
Troy Weaver, I've had my rant about Monty Williams. I've had my rant
about the front office. To tell him, Tom Gorris, this is on
you. You are a loser. If you continue to let this happen,
you are a fucking loser, and you need to change something. Have some
shame, have some pride, be a man, step up and make some
changes because if not, if you're just rolling over and taking it, you're
a loser. And that's what you've been doing in the past five years.
It's embarrassing. You should be embarrassed in yourself. You should be embarrassed in
your product, and you should be embarrassed as a businessman to allow this to
continue. Let me talk to you. I think that might be the issue.
It might be a little bit too much pride there. I mean,
he's the one that stepped in and decided that he knew what was best in
the hiring of Monty Williams, who didn't want to come back to basketball,
and now it looks like he's self satized, self sabotaging himself to leave basketball
again, just only this time with the fastest coaching contract the ANBA has ever
deald out ever in fucking history. Like, how do you like? Like
last night after the game he makes comments about like not being able to spread
the ball or not shoot a three, like officially, but you're starting Isaiah
Stewart. When you have Fontechio, who's that's literally what he's there for you
faced the four, everything makes more sense. Actually, do you have the
stuff from Jack Kelly? Yeah? Do you want to put this up?
Because here's the line between k Cunny, him, Jade and Ivy Assor Thompson,
Fontechio and Durren. It's gotten that rating of two point ten one hundred
and ten minutes and it's one hundred ten minutes. It's working, Like remember
before you came back, they're actually playing like a little bit of competitive ball.
What are we doing? Oh yeah, you know Osama bin Monty Williams
is he is definitely a problem, you know, Saddam Osama Manty Williams like
that is just stupid. The ship, the ship he throws out there is
stupid. I can't help that. The back half of that tweet you and
I forgot to read this papologises. It's the only line up to play one
hundred minutes of more that has a positive net rating. The others have a
negative ten net rating or lower. It is literally the only good line up
on the on the team. Yes, and I'm I'm not a big advanced
analytics guy. If you guys watched the show enough, like you know that
to be true. But I don't think you need advanced analytics to tell you
that that just spreads their spaces the floor a lot easier. I don't think
you need advanced analytics to tell you that Kay Cunningham works a lot better.
How about Ky cunning and Ivy Though I just don't like it's appairing already works
better with three point shooting on the floor. And that's the other part of
it too. You we won't put up this all bench lineup. That's fucking
absolute trash. And you want to make the argument that Studo's like worthy of
being like you're in the front court for you to start the game, put
him on there, bring some fucking life into that that all bitch lineup.
Then he's actively trying to get himself fined. There's no other explanation for this
shit. Yeah, how do you let how do you have Evan Fournier on
a team with Cape coyneham shoot two for ten? Like he hit two shots.
I was watching it with my friend and he hit two threes in a
row and I was like, I was like, okay, this is actually
as good as much as we need these points in this offensive struggling. This
is the worst thing to happen for this team because he is going to shoot
the next six shots, and sure enough he did. He took six shots.
You should not take six shots as Evan fortie. He should be playing.
Let don't want to take he's six shots and crunch time? Are you
kidding me? And Steve Wilds says, he's the worst owner in Detroit right
now. For sure, he is the worst owner in basketball. Tom Gorris
is worse than James Dolan. Top my two teams that I like that I
watched had the two worst owners in the sport, and Tom Gorris has usurped
the title of the worst owner in the NBA from James Dolan. Tom Gorris
might be the worst owner in professional sport right now. He's that bad.
It's that embarrassing people saying that Adam Silver can't step in and this and that
absolutely what happened when the Pistons were on their losing streak at the end of
season, and you know what they were on pace to do. They were
on pace to have a worse record than the franchise trust the process Philadelphia seventy
six ers, And when that happened, Adam Silver stepped in. So he's
done this before to teams that are in this shit situation and can't run themselves.
He has stepped in and done it. He absolutely has the ability to
step in and take control of the situation and I think he I think he
needs to. And Steve o Baby says, you know if Bill Davidson was
alive, he would have fired their s's thousand because Bill Davidson had pride.
He actually took pride in the product he was putting out there. He actually
wanted to see a winning basketball team. Tom Gorst doesn't give it shit.
Well, I think there's pride. He's just a dumbass. But he's gone
out there and spend the money where it's been both for players and obviously now
Monty Boy was with the contract too. But the bride's there. He's just
a fucking idiot or he has too much faith and domes. Yeah, the
tllent is get him out, Get him out. You know, it's like,
what the hell is going on here? I have season tickets in this
room. We have a six game homestand coming up. I'm selling all of
them for whatever I can get for it, just to recoup some of the
money back. I have a complete full for buying into this again and one
basketball questions I want to ask you guys, and I always come back to
it. Asar Thompson still shooting eighteen percent from three. He got a couple
wide open looks last night, just completely bricked all of them. I love
what he can do. Besides, like the shooting part of it. But
is this a guy that you can actually play with, Kate Cunningham. If
Kid's drawing double teams and he can't knock down the open three, Chris,
I'm gonna go to you for that. Look the numbers say right now no,
if you want to use the lineup numbers that easy had they were as
of before that Miami game, CAD was minus nine with Asar in as opposed
to just taking him out. So CAD and I or CAD and a SAR
have not fit. Well, that's plus lineup was with the SR in there.
Yeah, Well that's the weird thing too, is that is that other
than you take Fontechio out. And That's where I'm getting at, is a
SAR can play with Kid. It's very difficult right now, it's not clean.
But again, fifty sixty games into your NBA career, I am not
writing off a guy that's shown the flashes in potential that a SAR has.
I'm not writing off the the flashes and potential Kate Cunningham have shown. That's
the tricky part about all this is it doesn't look like it's going to be
the cleanest fit, and you don't want to hold your bag too long trying
to make sure that all these all these core players, these young players fit
together. But you you just you gotta give it. You gotta give it
more time before you before you rew out a guy like a SAR, because
I just I could see that man being a huge, huge contributor in an
NBA Finals team. You saw what Andrew Wiggins did in that Golden State Finals
when he was the second best player on the Golden State Warriors besides Steph Curry.
Like a SAR can have a series like that. He could be that
disruptive, that impactful on a game, so in a series. So I
can't I can't rule out on a guy like that, even though the numbers
say that right now it's not fitting. If you're gonna have a star out
there, you need somebody who can shoot up there. And it's font Techio.
Yes, that's like as simple as that to have a SAR Stu Enduring,
it's essentially it's a dumbest ship. It's a half a shooter, bro.
It's like it's like the fucking Andre Drummond Moose and fucking Josh SMIs.
Literally it's it's it's it's it's mine and nummy. It's the same stupidity.
It makes no fucking sense that you're an NBA head coach. I'm not well.
I'm not well. I like that. It's probably my second or third
favorite sport. It's one of the ones. Like you guys obviously know that
I don't talk the most NHL. I don't talk the most mL football and
basketball in my wheelhouse. But I'm not a fucking NBA head coach, and
I know that will never fucking work. Ever. It's it's a rested before
disaster every single time, and then to sit here postgame comments after the fact,
Oh yeah, I just don't know if we could. You don't get
the three point shots off that we need to. It's it's better off just
not taking them. You can. You have a guy who team hit five
from last night. You got a couple of guys on the bench that can
shoot the blood out and you're just it's it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing that it
continues and you're losing fans. I'm you know you are. You're straight up
losing fans. It hurts, bro. There's tough. It's tough to I
love the Pistons. I've gone to more Pistons games in my life than probably
any other team other than maybe the Tigers. But it's just embarrassing. I
used to get like my dad had had a guy on his mail route that
he was this doctor, and he used to give my dad tickets to rows
behind the Pistons bench. This is early two thousands, this is you know,
going to work Pistons and it was awesome. It's amazing some of the
players I saw, some of the games I saw. You couldn't pay me
to go to a Pistons game this year. I won't. I know Kouolid
wants to get us all together to go to a Pistons game. I appreciate
him for that, but I'm not gonna go. I I'm not gonna show
my face there. It's if the owner doesn't give a ship about what the
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Time to move on to something a little bit more positive. Apology. I
just want to get a pitched out the way. I don't know it we'll
go that deep, but obviously something we all had in our chest, so
we had to get out. Detroit Lions are in talks of acquiring Lagerious Need.
There was reports last night from a USA Today member, Uh do you
have a tweet for that one? There's six teams in quired about lagerious man
Tyler Dragon. What a name? What a fucking name? That sounds like
a fake name. That's gotta be a fake man. I clicked on the
profile. That's real. I wish that for That's a name of a Disney
Channel original movie. It's like the bad guy's name today. Think like the
intro to his song being made. They're like the interest on his TV show
definitely changed his name Tyler the minute he like was adult enough to do it
either way. Vikings, Colts, Titans, Patriots, Lions, Falcons,
and Jaguars have all quired about Lagerious Sneed meeting. As much as I'm down
playing it, I don't think it's gonna happen. He kind of looks like
it's still a possibility. And the one thing when to say, everyone looks
the same, but what's one thing to say, the kind of looks like
we're all kind of talking about Lagerious Steed these part of the chain ship team.
Will College just can't get him the badge of like being like a CV
one. But I like no one's ever like looked into the numbers to see
like what he truly is, if he's truly a fit for this scheme.
I believe he's just fit for this game. We had conversations with obviously to
ourselves, and we had somebody on early this week from the Athletic and said
the same thing too. But Lugerious sneed oh kay kind of lockdown oky low
key, I would say more than low key kind of locked down. He
was an extremely lockdown corner back last year. Well, he doesn't flirt with
like a twenty million dollars movie. Yeah, low key isn't the hottest commodity
on the market. We've seen guys kind of I feel like getting I mean
Odell Beckham always brings up because that's like the most recent one that at least
it comes to my mind guys have gotten like these contracts based off their names
versus like actual production. But the fact that he got paid more or was
like valued more than DeAndre Hopkins. Blows my fucking mind. I can't make
any sense of it, but it happened, right. But lagerious Seed,
he's the real deal. I think I sent the tweet with some of his
numbers against wide receivers. One, yes, you did, I did against
one particular wide receiver. Oh snap, Tyreek Hill. Oh I did some
Jamar Chase. Oh yeah, so targeted three times, only two receptions for
twenty seven yards. I mean they got in a fight during the middle of
that one. That's not really the lockdown. I would say that's lockdown.
It was Jamar Chase. What do you mean two receptions on the three targets.
Yeah, that means Jamar Chase the the blood. I don't know word
I'm looking for. Out of the three times they threw it to him,
he caught two of them. But you only think that's that's it's Jamar Chase.
Spencer Rexter, what are you? What are we doing right now?
I'm just saying he's he's like, he's like the top three wide receiver in
the league. I mean, the fact that he's been only targeted three times
in that game alone is insane. You see this fantasy number that's locked down.
It's a good game for sure, But like when he gets targeted,
he made the plays, yeah two or three times he was targeted. Wasn't
able to target the more than three times? Yeah? True, it's I
mean that's those are great numbers. I have some of the numbers. Two
here, let me get grab them here for my Twitter. I pop Jays
Tyreek Q. If you guys saw that the tape already, I went kind
of viral in the playoff game when he just stuff in Tyrek the Lion scrimmage
that thrown him down like a baby at that was something I like to a
couple of numbers here too, from a following wide receiver ones Calvin Ridley two
catches thirty two yards. DJ Moore one catch four yards. That's a guy
in our division. Garrett Wilson three catches twenty four yards. Justin Jefferson two
catches fourteen yards, although he did get hurt in this one this off in
twenty twenty three. A J. Brown one catch four yards. Yeah,
fucking that's why he's the best cornerback on the market. Like, that's why
he is in line for this huge payday, and that's why he's not gonna
play on a franchise day because he had a fantastic year. It was this
guy is the reason that the Chiefs went on such a great run. I
mean that the defense is the reason the Chiefs won the Super Bowl this year.
And you look at the guys that were the biggest parts of it,
and it was Chris Jones, l Jerious Sneeden, Jery McDuffie. So I
would love to see him on the Detroit Lions. And we saw tweets later
or earlier in the week that said that it would only take maybe a second
day pick yeah to get him out of the hands of the Chiefs, And
I would do that for sure. Honestly, I am. I'm always been
down forward. I've never been like, no, I don't want Lagarious sneed
It's not my money we're spending. And I think we're like that close from
like competing. He's truly like a difference maker, right like you were a
Lagario. If you had Lagarious sneed last year, you're playing in the Super
Bowl. Maybe so period, maybe so, Honestly, don't I don't necessarily
disagree with that one. But the part about it for me is I look
back at the brand of football he plays, and I don't make things maybe
changing because now we're kind of a little bit of America's sweetheart. I feel
like, or maybe just that was his last year and that may change going
forward, but we're used to getting kind of like fucked by referees. No.
Yeah, he's really physical. I think he drew the most penalties out
of like any dB last year, and that's with the KNC Chiefs to kind
of get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to these referees. Does
any of that concern because we have one play too if you want to put
it in three camps because it's from the NFL broadcast. But he is kind
of touchy feely. I mean, look at the play we're talking about target
Hill. He's just shoving him to the ground and it's within the five yards.
But we know how it is in Honolululu. Those flags fly different.
That's true. The Chiefs get the least call or the most calls in the
NFL. You can be just as effective here playing that Brandon football. That's
a flag if he's a lion, right, does any of that concern?
That's definitely a flag if he's a lion. No, not really. Yes,
I mean it's hard not to with everything from the past. I mean
it is. Yeah, that does concern me him being extremely physical, But
I mean a good corner is a good corner. I mean, if he
gets some calls, I'm okay with it because he's making plays the other times.
The thing about Snead, if you are going to go over the blue
chip guy, he is one, but he's on the cornerback side, would
you rather go corner here or the end? If like Brad Holmes is gonna
make one of those blue chip signings that we've been talking about all off season,
cornerback, you would rather have it being in the secondary as an outside
cornerback. Yes, he's break if he's grabbing like one of these top tier
eyes, Yeah, top tier guys would rather have like realistic guys available.
Guys are like like Chris Jones gonna be signed to the Chiefs. But if
you grab Chris Jones, I mean grabbing Chris Jones lagerious seat all day.
Give me a cornerback, corner. Bave me a cornerback over over the defensive
line in free agency because James Houston is better than any court like comparably per
their spot. James Houston is better than who you have out there at cornerback.
James Houston is a better defensive end or ed rusher, I'll say,
because he's not defensive end than any cornerback you're putting out there. And it's
easier, I think, for a guy to come in a rookie on the
defensive line and have an impact than it is to be a cornerback and have
an impact. Give me that. If it's like, you don't need like
to put in perspective outside of Lagerious or Tradevious Ward. Who was the other
starting corner back on that team, I really don't know. Go to Baltimore
Ravens mcduffee forty nine ers. Oh on the forty nine ers, Yeah,
I couldn't even tell you it was uh to go to the Baltimore Ravens.
Who's the other opposing quarter next to Humphrey? But we don't have one.
Something's not Travarius Ward or Marlon Humphrey. But I feel like if you get
that interior and I'm talking about more so on the interior, I he's not
necessarily an edge, but like somebody to get pressure on the quarterbacks, like
that's gonna make all those guys work. Yeah, I don't. We've seen
it here. I mean, I don't think the only one on the interior
that is really putting your putting in that same class as a lugitious sleet on
the outside is Chris Jones, and he's not going anywhere. Well, Christian
Wilkins is out there now too. Yeah, officially you think Christian Wilkins,
it would would be a great fit. You don't. I don't know.
You don't like that guy a leam though I wanted a big heavy next time.
I like it Christian Wilkins a lot. But I still I don't think
like that's a guy if he's there and you're vague like you can get him,
I don't think. I don't think you say no to it just because
like you know what he is. I don't think these are anything like within
the realm of like reality, but not I want the defensive lineman. Give
me the guy that's gonna make those guys look better. Because we got to
the MCY Conference Championship with kend Of. I feel like I said this every
day, but if if aiden had somebody else helping them get to the quarterback,
there or at least somebody helping Allen get there. That works both ways,
though, we got to the NFC Championship game with not getting a lot
of pass rush either. And the next year you're expecting Alee McNeil to be
healthy all year and James Houston to be healthy all year, We're expecting Emmanuel
mostly to be helped. Like, give it less. The less quality of
player was at the cornerback position right now? Still, yes, yeah,
on the journey to that MCY Conference championship and right now on this team,
you have less quality player at the cornerback position too, So I'd rather upgrade
the position that needs it more. Well, you go upgrade both of them,
right, there's no way you're not gonna get it. And I mean
it's easier to upgrade the defensive line in the draft than it is the cornerback
position. It's fair, but it's also not guaranteed. Guarantee the go get
if I'm if I'm grabbing puts you this way, like if you're Vegas or
I do not. You don't have to be Vegas. But like, what
do you think would happen if if the Lions added Chris Jones? Odds for
Super Bowl by top three they added, versus if we add Lagerious Steeds,
they're probably going up like one spot to like fourth, which you think it
is like right now, I know we're like apples and orange, but I
want the defensive lineman all day. Yeah, but you're not getting Chris Joones.
It's not gonna happen. Say it's Wilkins, then say you're gonna have
to just for Phil Wise, I'd rather have Sneaed than I would rather have
Sneaed over Wilkins. I like Dj Reader as an interior defensive lineman. You
can bring now Daniel Hunter. If you're telling me it's Daniel Hunter or Lagarious
Sneed, then I did Hunter. Yeah, then I think about it.
But on the interior defensive line, there's nobody outside of Chris Jones that I'd
rather have more than Lagarious Sneed. And Chris Jones doesn't leave it. I'm
not leaving. So if it is a Day two pick and you are assigning
Snead, you think they can come to a long term contract. I mean
that's why you're trading for him, right, Like, what do you think
that Oh yeah, definitely twenties. You think that comes in less than twenty
mil No, or does it start with the two? It starts with the
two. I'm telling you guys that, well, so does Chris Jones.
Chris Jones. Yeah, Like you're saying, if you trade for you're not
trading for lageriousnek because you got to pay them. If you trade for Chris
Jones or de Neil Hunter, I'm not gonna have to pay him the same
amount of money. I'm not saying. I didn't say any of those things.
What are you talking about? So you're if they traded, you're just
saying. I'm saying a defensive line is more valuable than the cornerback. That's
all I'm saying. Yeah, that's I don't know, man, it can
be. Put you this way. You look at your your favorite defense of
all time, one of my favorite defensive all time boom, yeah, yeah,
who were the address? Cliff Abril, Cliff Abril. They had Bruce
Irvin, that that Michael Bennett. That a dog ass defensive line. Yeah.
But there their secondary was by far secondary was it was a complete deep
line lead everywhere. Bobby defensive line, yeah, Bobby Waite like that was
That's one of the Their secondary was by far the best part the second those
are guys are talking. Those guys are marketed, right, I mean Sherman
Chancellor, Thomas Browner. Yeah, there were dogs yeah everywhere. No,
I think defensive line. I'm not man, I think give me either of
them. I just this team needs a quarterback. You need a They don't
have a starting quarterback on this team right now outside of Cam Sutton. They
literally don't have one. Like right now, if the season started today,
your starting quarterbacks would be Cam Sutton and Steven Gilmore. Yeah. But I
mean they're gonna grab somebody. But we gotta go to break. We got
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posted it, Turnavius White gets released. I'm like, oh my goodness,
I would probably had him somewhere in the video. You know, that's how
it goes. That's free agency. I'm good, though, man, thanks
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I was good? Going to jump on air here? Who who were some
of the names you're man? I guess I don't want to give you.
I want you to give away the whole video. I want to tease it,
but like, who is your number one guy? You're your favorite guy?
Yeah, it's so so I took a weird approach to it. As
you probably know, I took a weird of I was trying to look at
some of the under the Radar guys because you guys were talking about Lagerious Need
before we got on here, so of course I brought up Lagerious Need Stefan
Gilmour. Those are two guys that kind of feel like to me after Jalen
Johnson got the tag there they're kind of on their own little tier in in
a way. Stephan Gilmore much different. It is probably a one year deal,
but for me, like the there was a couple of guys that stood
out, kind of like the under the Radar path. At the top,
I had Ronald Darby. It's all the injuries, but I thought he was
incredible last season with Baltimore. But I'll give you another name, one real
recent that popped up that just I think he's really interesting. I think,
especially once you bring Emmanuel Mostly back, his style could actually make sense again.
Darius Williams from Jacksonville. Of course there's a connection there. It'd be
a little bit weird to have him in Camp Sutton because I think some of
the areas that they both lacked. They both lack in the same area.
But Darius Williams, the other guy, is coming off an incredible season four
interceptions, so I had him on the list as well. How do you
feel abou him as a my bad spinning? Well, how do you feel
abou him as a fit? Because I know Jacksonville. When I looked it
up, they played like a little bit more of zone coverage. Obviously,
he's kind of small two at five nine, he's gonna be thirty one.
What's time the season starts? Like? Where do you like? I guess
what type of contract does he demand on the open market? And is he
a fit here in Detroit for the man scheme? A yeah, no,
I'm with you. That's why I thought that I had him lower on the
list for that reason, because I thought it was a weird fit. First
off, the age, he's not young, so you know, I think
he's thirty years old at this point, so he's a little bit on that
side. Also the aspect of I don't love his long speed. As you
said, he's a little bit underside, so he doesn't offset camp Sutton.
If they're both starting, they're kind of like the same. I won won't
say they're the same player, but they bring a lot of similarities. And
to your point, like you just said, zone covers, I think he's
very effective and kind of that off man coverage, but I think we saw
a lot more of this past season. But again, I don't know how
well that balance is with Cam Sutt because there's gonna be times we're gonna want
someone to press up on a lot of scrimmage. It's not that he can't
do that, it's just not that's not where I want him. So I
think it's a weird fit. But I think once you bring Emmanuel Moseley back,
if you're like, okay, we can make this thing work because we'll
just shift our defense to what we have If Mosley's not healthy, I think
he could definitely work because he's just he's really good at what he's good at.
He's very good what he's good at. He's similar in terms of things.
I think he does well like camp Sutt, and I think he's a
very aware, very smart player, gets his hands on a lot of footballs.
I don't know his market to me, seems like he'd be the kind
of guy to still get a multi year deal even though he's thirty plus because
of how well he played, Like him gonna cut was fully a financial thing.
That dude played really well last season. So it's just about finding a
team that that kind of style interest them. And I think in today's NFL
a lot of teams go to zone heavy corners. As he talked about guys
that will play off coverage. I think he's got a good market. I
think he'll be kind of expensive this offseason. I see him ULTI year deal
there. And you know, speaking of expensive, speaking of what somebody will
cost, what do you think it's going to take to get Lagarious Sneed off
of Kansas City? And what do you think he's gonna end up signing to
when he gets his deal. Boy, that's a tough one. Yeah.
So the I'm first off the trade side, Yeah, I think second round
pick sounds right, It sounds right. I think for them getting more than
what a compic value would be right. So if it's like at the high
end, right, you get like an end of the third round pick.
So I think from Kansas City side, like if we get anything better than
that, we're happy. You know, we tagged him. Okay, just
give us more than what the compic would be, so second round feels right
between that second third round range. Only one of those picks probably to me.
The thing with Lagarious Sneed that I think makes him so valuable is not
only is he twenty seven and he's not like you know, with all these
other guys dealing with crazy injuries. The thing that makes it value to me
is he's so unique as a player right now. Like when you talk about
the size with also the athleticism that's tied into that, there's just not a
lot of dudes on the free agent market that have that mix. So to
me, he's very valuable because there's a lot of there's a lot of guys
out there that just can't do the things that he does. So yeah,
I think he'll get paid a ton. I don't think he even played the
best season of the free agent corners out I don't think he had the best
last season of the free agent corners out there when he was on the field.
I think there's things he's not perfect that, but I think he's so
unique in terms of he checks all the other boxes athlete, ball skills young.
To me, because of that, he's gonna get a massive deal.
I would assume you guys were talking about before I got in here, twenty
plus million a year. I think so he probably does hit that number,
and uh yeah, I think he'll probably take a second maybe third round pick.
How do you how do you feel about him as the player? Because
last night I couldn't say so. I found myself as watching I just you
know, hit the YouTube Lagerious Neeed versus of mar Chase, so lagarious need
versus Justin Jefferson. And he's he's active, but that that defensive scheme in
itself is just phenomenal. Obviously, got Trip McDuffie helping him at times is
the bracket covers we saw here with Jeff Fukuda shutdown Justin Jefferson once upon time.
How do you feel about him as a player? Is he worth that
amount of acid to take to get him here? Yeah? So I he
is absolutely fit. And that's that's the thing that like is you can understand
it, like you know exactly everybody knows it. As Lions fans. Now,
we've seen Dan camb We've seen the guys they bring in. You know
immediately when you're like, oh that guy could be a Dan Campbell guy.
That's the guy that could fit. He's that and like you said, you
brought the Justin Jefferson game. That was the first game that I went through
and washed. And yeah, he's very physical. He's one of those guys
that'll throw back, get up and press. He's also a heavy blitzing corner
for an outside corner after moving from slot. So he's just like a guy
that makes sense on that side. But to me, when I watched him
and I think where he has some limitations, like he didn't blow me away
to the spot where I was like, oh yeah, I would absolutely go
make this trade and go pay him. I didn't buy into that level.
But at the same time, the guys that I thought, you know,
you could put comparatively like, oh, they also played really well this past
season. You could probably put him in the same box. They're either really
old, like they're pushing thirty plus, or on the flip side, they're
coming off injuries. And that's that's the thing that he doesn't necessarily have attached
to him. So that's why I think he's so valuable. But I'm with
you in the fact, like there's guys like Jefferson, there's just not Corners
just don't play him one on one, so you're right safety, stay on
top, they give help. It's like playing in Miami, right, I
just got don't watch for Davis White butt Miami. It's like you always gonna
have a safety on top. You're gonna play more cover too. You're gonna
bracket that guy in. So you just adjusted that. But to what you
said, while he has limitations, like there are certain spots, I don't
think he's as flexible as certain corners. But what he also does really well
is that man, he's he's really good what he's good at. He's a
very good press corner. He could be very physical at the line. He
was successful against Justin Jefferson really didn't get beat much, maybe one or two
reps in that game. So he fits the lines, he fits the culture.
I would understand it. And do you see Brad Holmes making a move
like that, because we haven't seen him go out and pay for a big
name free agent. We haven't seen him go out there and bring in the
splash guy, whether it's at the deadline or in free agency. I mean,
the biggest ones you can say are probably Cam Sutton and David Montgomery that
he's brought in would you can you see him in the cards of the Brad
Holmes scheme going out there and getting a guy like Lugerious Sneed. Here's why
wouldn't He's why I wouldn't count it out. It's not on the same level
is what Jalen was doing with the Jaguars. But to me, it's a
similar situation. I'm not I'm just saying that Brad Holmes did that, but
it's a trade. It's different because it's a tagging trade, so it's not
like, you know how it naturally happened there with all the off the field
stuff. But similarly, when they made their big splash, it was going
getting a young cornerback that was playing at a super high level and it was
like, we're just gonna go get him because he just stands out from the
rest. And I think that's what I see with Lugerious Need going through all
these top guys, like there's there's corners that you like, and they all
have different skill sets, but he's unique, and he's he's at an age
and he's in a spot right now where you know the difference is that you
would also have to give him that extension. But with them doing it with
Jalen. I don't think he's playing at the level Jalen Well. I think
Jalen was like on a whole another he was one two three in the league.
Yeah, Jalen Ramsey was completely different. But la Jerio's need is one
of the best in the league from this last season alone, and because now
he's shown that flexibility, which is another aspect of Jalen that teams loved,
like, oh, we just put him in the slot. This is what
this guy did and then he moved to the outside. I wouldn't count it
out if there's a if there's a big splash that happens. This feels like
the recipe for it to happen for Brad Holmes. And then Chris had a
question real quick too. Yeah, Chris, Chrispy here a good question.
So when it comes to when it comes to free agency, like you look
at last year the offseason in total with Brad Holmes, how he revamped that
that safety room, right Like he went out and got CJ. DJ and
he also and he also drafted Brian Branch. I think we're expecting a similar
approach for the for the cornerback room, right because I mean as we talked
about, really the only one you can count on long term is Cam Sutton
beyond beyond this year. So I expected to be kind of a combination of
draft and free free agency, wouldn't wouldn't you kind of expect the same thing
absolutely, Yeah, No, I expect the exact same thing. I'm with
you. I don't think anything's done here. I think it sounds like Jerry
may not be brought back. That's kind of what it seems like. I
hate that, but that's what it sounds like. And getting Mosey back was
I think it was a good step. I think it was a good step.
But to your point, I still expect both. I mean, that's
just to me. If Jerry doesn't come back, those kind of guys like,
all right, we gotta we gotta reset this because he's still you know,
he was like the first year type of deal, but it really wasn't
a legit investment yet. We still haven't really drafted a corner yet outside of
Brian Branch brought up. So that's gonna happen to me within the first two
days, there's going to be a drafted corner and then yeah, go sign
another cornerback. Maybe maybe two, right, Maybe go get one that's you
know, one of these young guys that's kind of like on that under the
radar list type of thing, and maybe go get one of these like older
vets, like the Stefan Gilmour make the big splash trade. But even if
I would say this, even if they say they made the big deal for
lagerious need, I still would expect at some point they draft a corner.
I don't know that it would happen, you know, with one of their
top picks then, but I would still expected it happened. So yeah,
I think they I think they dip in both this year. Yeah, I'm
an agreeing to I think I think they have more than just one corner,
whether it be I mean somebody, Yeah, I think. I mean,
I wouldn't be surprised if it's like two signings and in a draft pick.
I really wouldn't be surprised at all. Kyrie, what is Jackson? Last
name? Oregon? Yeah? What's what's going on with him? And he?
What's the drafted to him? Is he rising up boards or man?
Shoot, I don't even know. Did you like him? Like like I
liked him? Said I liked him? He liked him honestly. Yeah,
And I don't know if it just because obviously Gonzo came out of there last
year and he looked well with the Patriots before he got hurt. But he's
got the length. I think he's got the speed. He showed you the
athletic traits too. I like him a lot. Man. Yeah, he's
he's impressive for a guy that's that big six foot was he six foot three
and a half or something? Mean, he's massive and he and he's so
comfortable in terms of the off cover stuff. You know. The guy that
actually has been connected with me a little bit recently. I don't know if
you guys checked about you you made you probably have Jarvis Brownlee out of Louisville.
He's He's a guy that I've been like hooked on recently. Man,
because to me, you know, I see the dche a Townsend and he's
like, oh, man, guy's got to tackle this dude is like he
this is funny because Easy was on a show. We did a show with
Easy. I did show with Easy recently, and I remember he brought up
a guy and he asked if he reminded me of Devin Witherspoon. I was
like, I don't see that I'm not signing Jarvis Browne is anything like Devin
Witherspoon in terms of it's a coverage piece. And he's definitely not that twitchy
when you talk about like the fieriness of I'm getting into the play, I'm
gonna hit somebody, I'm gonna get involved. Brownly gave me those vibes a
little bit under size. But he's a big time press corner. So you
talk about those guys that play a lot of man too. He's someone that
I'm keeping my eye on right now. In your in your video, did
you just do the free agents or did you go and look for like possible
trade candidates too, because a couple of names I want to ask you about,
but I don't know if you did the homework on No, I mean
I didn't do any trade candidates outside Lagerius Sneed. That was the only one
I brought up. Are you from Carlton Davis at all? I have done
homework himself, which is the name that I heard that might be the Buccaneers
might be like parting with. And I was watching because again I was watching
the Jerry Steed versus Jamar Chase and the following video was Jamar Chase just talking
about the cornerbacks kind of like giving the biggest troubles and Carlton Davis is on
there. And then I looked up Carlton Davis and there's an article about he
might be Tree Cannon for the Buccaneers just because they got to resign the just
resigned to Evans and now they got to resign Baker two. But if you
get the time, just because the trust work you put in, take take
a look at that guy. For me, I haven't done it yet,
but I want people mow Carlton Davis for the Tampa Buccaneers. That's a that's
a good name, especially because you know, we saw last year guys like
Zion mcoy and it was like, at times those dude look good. Those
dudes look good on the outside. And I can remember I don't know if
it was Carlton Davis or I can't think of who their other cornerback was at
the time, but I was like, I kind of like, heaven Ziona
column out there better for him. So that does make a ton of sense
that he could be on the market. I'll I'll check him out, though.
I haven't watched enough to give you a good take on him. Dion,
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whatever weights. I'm easy, sprom Mo rak Hello, Krispy, Yes,
Nicholas call off and dosed Dion. We're kind of talking about free agent cornerbacks
and possible trade candidates. Did you peep the guy from Cincinnati at all?
Chibidwe chiba chibuya chidobi uzi cho Oh there you go? Job? Oh yeah,
yeah right, we need another one of those, man, We do
need another one of those. But do you have to take on him?
Is there? No? He just wanted to get your take on him.
I know that he had a couple of good years and since he's he seems
like the youngest or one of the younger guys out of this free agent group.
I just don't understand why he's not getting more. I guess why he's
not getting talked about more. I'll say this, probably that would make sense.
That's what I was talking about. I can't spell it, and then
I put it on there and he can't read it. Look, man,
shoudote, you are losing it. Like it worked out so well with Cincinnati
too, because I'm pretty sure they got him like a super cheap deal.
To your point that he came in and Baald out for him, so he
was like a bargain price for him, and he'll probably go up right.
He's one of the top market kind of guys, twenty eight years old,
also good size. When I thought when I watched him, and I wouldn't
say I went through like a ton of his games, but I thought what
I watched him, the biggest thing to me it was it was never like
he was a freakish athlete, but he was so balanced. Everything about his
coverage was super balanced, you know, top of the route, balanced movement,
zone corner. I thought that's where he was really effective, very good
communicator and zone coverage as well. And again, you like you talked about,
this is what a lot of the end is going to the body controls,
just very patient as footwork. So you know, to me, it
wasn't like anything that stood out was like he's super twitchy or his big ball
skilled time of type of guy. But instead he was a very balanced corner,
very reliable, and I mean with his size and with you also where
you all saw him line up, he could actually match up with a guy
like Camp Sutton. But at the same time, like he didn't stand out
to me as like the perfect pairing form. I just feel like we have
a lot of those aspects in Camp Sutton right now. So for me,
I was just kind of looking for some a little bit more dynamic opposite.
But chadobi Wuz is a real solid corner. I don't think he's a top
of the market terms of how much he's gonna get paid though, because I
don't think he has those standout traits from what I've seen. What about Stephan
Gilmore, do you think he's got anything left in the tank? Do you
think he's got another Super Bowl run? I know he's never going to be,
you know, Defensive Player of the Year level again, but he's he
still somebody that could could be a very effective piece on a Super Bowl caliber
team. Well, let me say this because you you I think you were
the one that brought up Stephan Gilmore the last time. And I was like,
no, I don't want to step On Gilmore. He don't look the
same. And then I had to revisit for this video and I was like,
ah, dang, I was wrong. Hold, Stefon Gilmore still got
it. I don't know what game I was watching it. I don't know
if it was like I think it was like the Green Bay game or someone
was stuck in my head. I can remember him getting beat. I was
like, oh, this dude, he's just old. Now. I love
Stefon Gillen, but he's thirty three. What are we doing? But yeah,
Stephon Gilmore still got it. Now Stefan Gilmore feels like he has it
a little bit in a different way. I'm not gonna see her acting like
I was like watching Stefan Gilmore like that in like twenty nineteen. But you
we all knew, like man coverage, he would shut it down, take
you out of the game. But I always loved he was in flashy right,
wasn't like all the talking and those things. He would just take you
out of the game. Stefan Gilmore. To me right now, what he
has is again we talk about size lengthy, he hits all the measurables.
I don't see someone like the foot quickness and things like that that you would
think of from your like typical press corners right now, like in their prime.
But what I do see is a guy that man like technically, like
the sappiness, it's all still there. He's so natural and pressed that,
like you go back and watch him against US, he would line up against
Jamo and it was like, oh no, he's just matching him right off
the line, just running right with him, and he was so pure and
things like that. And then again sticking to our game, like you're watching
him, he jumped two out routes in the same game against US, like
a third play of the game, he jumped Josh Reynolds on an out route.
And it's just like his ability to identify kind of with his eye balance
read the quarterback from kind of those off covered spots. He's so well rounded.
He's a very good tackler in space too. I think athletically he's not
at this prime, but in terms of a very smart corner that'd be reliable
opposite. Absolutely, he's still got and he played like a what do he
played like a thousand snaps this last season with half That's that was crazy.
That's that's crazy. His stats across the board were gray. I mean a
fifty five per second place percentage allowed on the season, eighty three fast rating.
He was really good this past season. So I think he's limited a
little bit athletically, but he's really reliable. He'd be a great starting outside
corner hey, I mean I'd be down for it again. I think it's
a piece you could afford to grab and then still drab somebody or maybe grab
him and somebody else too, you know, and I don't want to keep
going to I guess the oh. Actually, Ques, he's huge for mentoring
younger guys too, Like who would you rather have tormentor of rookie or a
young cornerback than a guy who's betting Super Bowls? A guy who's one defensive
player of the year, who's been at the top of his game for going
on with six seven years now. So yeah, I would lovely. Hey,
Dionne Nick in the sambooth here, the draft is almost upon us,
and we know Brad Holmes likes to go BPA we saw that with Gibbs and
Jack Campbell last year. Besides the top three wide receivers being neighbors and Doonsay
and Harrison Junior. Is do you think Brad Holmes could possibly go for a
wide receiver in the first round of this draft, even though it's not the
biggest need on this team. Yeah, to me, that depends on Josh
Reynolds, Like, I mean, I think he still would be open to
drafting receiver if Josh Redls does get resigned, and I think Josh Renolds does
get resigned, especially if the price doesn't crazy, I mean it could right.
He just saw Mike Evans getting extension so that the receiver room feels like
it's getting pretty light, to a point where he saw a report that Kelvin
Ridleys like looked at as the top receiver, which means that to me,
Josh Rendls isn't far off because Colvin Ridley wasn't great last season, So that
would be the biggest thing. Is like, is Josh Renold's gonna be if
he's brought back. I'd be pretty shocked if he did it round one.
To your point, I haven't counted it out because when you look at kind
of the best available to that spot. If you're just sitting there, you
brought up some of those receiver names, like certain receivers to me would be
the best available from what I've seen so far. I don't know if you
brought up Brian Thomas Junior within that group, but to me, he's like
a guy that was very quick. It's like, okay, he kind of
separates himself from the pack. So if a guy like that was sitting there,
there's a lot of players that he would be above for me personally.
But bringing Josh Burdones back, I'd be shocked if it happens. If he
does it, then I would definitely look into being a possibility. But yeah,
I think of Josh Reuon's back, I don't think it happens. My
recent mock draft drop earlier on the show to Dame, it's back to my
first I was I couldn't sleep beast night. I did a one through thirty
two. I had Detroit Lions traight up to twenty three for Johnny Newton.
Just just quick reaction to that one before I let you go. Yeah,
yeah, no, he was. He was a guy watched like way back
in the process dude. And I can remember the hype hype for this player.
I think it was against Toledo where he was like going crazy. I'm
like, yo, who is this dude? But it was Toledo. I
don't I don't dislike it. He's a name that I feel like for me,
I kind of like overlooked it throughout like this time because you just don't
expect him to be there. But I don't dislike that at all. I
mean, he's, if I remember correctly, like he's just naturally super low
to the ground obviously brings all the twitch, all those things off the line
too. And I would love to pair someone with a Lie McNeil. And
what I love about that is specifically the fact that a Lie McNeil, to
me's getting extension, Like the dude absolutely has to get paid, and I
think there's no question. So when you guys were talking about like some of
those interior defensive linemen that you could pair with him, that's the biggest thing
is like how long do I want to go with that length? Because soon
Alee McNeil's CAP's going to start to kind of play into that too, and
I don't want two big cap pits two guys on the interior. So I
was able to draft one and it's twenty three the cap. It's not going
to be anything, so that'd be amazing. I'm down with it. And
before we do let you go, I did want to talk about one more
position, and that is the safety position, because now you know, with
we don't know what's going on with Chauncy Gerner Johnson. He's making cryptic stuff.
Quadra Diggs, everybody's like, bring him home, bring them home.
He's ready to go. We only have two safeties and Will Harris on the
roster right now, like will Hare's gone too or Will Harri's gone too?
Yeah? Oh yeah, we have two safeties out of the roster right now.
Do you expect them to sign a guy like a Quandre Diggs or bring
back a Chauncey Gardner Johnson, or do a Brad Holmes late round pick a
fifth sixth round safety to bring in here? Just the depth piece. I
know we already got our starters with if He and Kirby, but you still
need somebody else back there. Yeah. That's the key thing, right is
that you feel like you have your starters. But I think on top of
that, you'd probably want to. I want to add somebody that feels like
you can fit more of that free safety roll a little bit that I can
pair right behind Kirby Joseph, like i'd want someone to continue to kind of
push that player. Then you also keep mind like if he his extensions gonna
be able to I mean, his deals gonna be able out of this year,
so you have to worry about that. Again, that's another spot where
I wouldn't be shocked if they hit both. I think, you know,
safety is one of those spots where you can get them late in the draft
because you're not as much reliant all the time on like physical, you know,
talent, because I think right now the Lions have that between Kirby Joseph
and his crazy wingspan. If you Mela Fond, who was just like a
rare breed at safety, so the Lions don't necessari need that. I would
think in free agency, I'm down with bringing CD Dues back. I'd love
me some CD Dues, so it'd be awesome. But I think he,
for whatever reason, seems like he's got more interests, like Philly's gonna try
to go get that guy back. But then there's also you know I think
there's some cheaper options out there in free agency that played pretty well this past
season to just go kind of kind of get a role piece. I think
of like Dean Marlow right early in the process where it's like, not necessarily
bring him in as a starter this time around, but get like a veteran
to kind of back those guys up that maybe can play both spots and then
draft someone behind. I think like a like a like a Kirby Joseph for
example. Yeah, I one more too, SAT squeeze in there because it's
later on the prep as well. Christian Wilkins. I don't know if that's
gonna be in the price range of Brad Holmes, but it is a guy
out there. I don't know how I feel about the fite where you at
with him as a possible acquisition for the Detroit Lions. Yeah, I'll be
honest with you. This is a guy I didn't think was gonna be available.
I thought, there's no way this guy's can be available, and then
when I saw that, I was pretty shocked too. I haven't seen enough
of Christian Wilkins. I don't think to say whether or not I give him
the big deal yet. He's one of those guys that I haven't really dove
into. I'm I'm just cautious of wanting to give out a if you give
it Christian Wilkins, who had an excellent season, if you give out a
guy like that, he's gonna get a three four. He's probably gonna get
a four year deal. It's gonna be a lot of money, and you
could set it up different ways. But I'm just cautious of that with Lillie
McNeil because I think Allie McNeil's and I could be completely overshooting. I think
he's gonna get paid a really good amount when he gets extended, So that's
why i'm this caution. I liked a lot of the two year options.
I think a two year deal will be great right now in free agency for
the interior defense line, keep the role alive for Brodick Martin to step in,
but at the same time kind of get yourself like a stopgap piece there
that could also give you some pass rush upside. So I haven't completely dove
into that one, but I am with adding an interior defensive lineman. I
just kind of like the shorter deal idea better, but I haven't seen Christian
Wilkins enough. I know he's a dog though. I know that, so
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rag what up? Chris P? Yes, Sir Chris P. The cat
owner, the cat holder, the detective director boding. I feel like not
over. Oh and we have Nicholas cole Off on the one Tuesday. So,
as I mentioned earlier the show, I wasn't able to sleep last night.
I was watching Spinny and stealing his clothes and uh you know right after
I did that, I just stole this hoodie. You never bought like a
baby. Listen, I know you did. I agream that the Vikings cut
justin Jefferson never. I don't know. It's weird. I forget. I
think it's a possiblity. Don't they don't pay him. It should have happened
by now. No, yea, hopefully Saint Brown gets paid first. They
gotta wait till the League new year. Right, No, No, we
just resigned. May still resigned with your own team. Yeah, but I
don't think the numbers come out until the league new year. What do you
mean, because did as contract come out you or did they just like say
like it's coming back to be fair? Actually, I don't think it was
reported by the team. The numbers didn't come out yet. Know it was
Tom pel Sarah, Tom Pela sera, No, I think you still resigned
with your team. You just can't sign with any other teams until like the
what do they call it the tampering period. It's in the NBA. It's
audatorio. Is that the term they use. I mean, we saw Mike
a, we saw Mike Evans do it. Next time came out, so
that's where it's like Saint Brown, where you at, let's get it done.
Yeah, they're still working the Saint Brown one. From what I know
just a little tiny details, and I know that I don't know that it's
done, but I have very strong feeling that it's done. One I had
a couple of people message me. But two, Uh, he's been really
really happy on his Instagrams was lately just the day that I was told it
was done, he was. Yeah. He also like a video of him
just singing some eminem like head Bob is super havous, Like okay, yeah,
yeah, this was probably just cross the t's down in the eyes on
that one. But while I couldn't sleep and after I've done watching Spinning,
I did a one through done first round mock draft for the NFL, and
uh, I guess I want to get some you guys takeaways. We look
at other people's mock drafts and Nick, I know you already had some questions
about this one. Which was it a lot of the hot news coming out
of the combine right now with Drake May kind of falling with Jadeen Daniels on
the Talk of JJ McCarthy. You still got him at number two here?
Do you believe he's the second best quarterback in this draft? Stupid? I
think everyone say on Caleb Williams enough, we know he's going one to the
Bears. Yeah, I still think. I still think Drake May is the
quarterback one. I feel like the quarterback who I apologize. Yeah, it's
like one because everyone knows Caleb's going for your is too. But it's one
of those things where I feel like we anoint these these prospects for so long
that we just we just get kind of tired of it and like start like
polke little holes or just trying to find something new to talk about. I
mean we we were wary of it ourselves, like sometimes like fuck, how
many more times can I tell you I don't think Jared Golf's lead, you
know, you just say a lot of the same ship sometimes. I think
that's what it comes down to in the draft process or or media part of
it when it comes Drink May. I still think he's QB two. I
wouldn't be surprised if Jane Daniels there. I personally Jane Daniels better, but
from my perspective, I still believe he's held in high regards across the league.
Chris following up on on the quarterbacks. While we're on the on the
topic, you have JJ McCarthy five to the Falcons, who's been a team
that's been linked to one Justin Fields presuming that that they take Caleb Williams,
one Justin Fields is probably on the move, so easy where are you at
with do you think that Justin Fields then goes to a different team or what
do you what do you think has happened in there? So the those team
I'm hearing for Justin Fields that I think is still in the market for a
quarterback is that Pittsburgh Steelers. That would make sense exactly. I think it
makes sense. I think the Falcons also make sense. But the way this
draft worked, I had them trading up to make that move. I just
couldn't see JJ falling to them as either between them and the Vikings, I
had to make a trade for somebody. Plus I think it was the Yeah,
it was it was the Charges there. Originally this wasn't even one there
there like desperate FORO and for some reason, I just feel like Rock Bauers
is destined to be an LA Charger. I do too, but also my
question here of this stupid fucking rock dred, you had Quinnon Mitchell going ahead
of Terryon Arnold. Yes, Quenton Mitchell at fifteen terryon Arnold at seventeen.
Is that because you think personally he's better or you think NFL GM's view him
as a better prospect or fit thing like what's going on there? I think
I think they're pretty close, like for like the NFL, the way the
NFL's looking at them. I think Quentyn Mitchell had a phenomenal combine is where
Terry on Arnold, like some people were making I guess cases where he didn't
have the greatest combine. Quinnyon Mitchell he's got the size, he's got the
speed to where I think he could mold him into almost any system. Where
Tarry On Donold it feels like people just want him in the main coverage.
And that's what the Jacksonville Jaguars are trying to do. Is part of the
reason they got rid of Darius Williams. But I think it's kind of NFL
eyes. I think Tarry Arnold and Queen and Mitchell are like pretty close.
And I think there's all of physical attributes that you favor in Queen on Mitchell's
favor in the comparison out of the speed being number one and another one the
man who broke the forty time. Yeah, you don't have him going in
the first round, but you have Lad McConkie going. Fucking white. Dude,
Yes, what kind of racist shit you know? Do you think you
think the the Chiefs would take McConkie over the overworthy? I feel like Worthy
is a little bit of a one trick pony. But that's not what he
said on his Instagram. What are you saying, don't let the forty time
fool the roster? Are there too? Watch the tape? Yeah? Yeah,
no, I mean I feel like McConkie is like one of those guys
where it's a skill thing. And he also ran a pretty solid for you.
I believe he was like a four to four or four four nine or
something like that. Uh. McConkie's route running is fucking filthy. Yeah,
he's got great Well, it's disgusting, very nice, and I've been aware
of it just through like what we heard through the Senior Bowl, and then
also brother's been really high in him as of late. And so I went
and I put on a little bit of the tape. Oh is a Cooper
Cup effect. If we're not letting these white receivers go any further down the
board, it is the Cooper Cup effect. This guy is I think he's
got he's got skill set wise. Yeah, his route running is probably amongst
the nicest in the draft, possibly the nicest in the draft. Even listen
to it and be with Kamari Lasser and he was like, they're asking what
receiver could be the most challenge And he's like, you know, you can't
say. They tell him those say teammates. Everyone wants to give out a
shot to the teammates, right, He's like, no, it was my
teammate, Lad McConkie. Fucking he made me a better cornerback because the cuts
he makes deadly. Yeah, So I think him and Pat Mahomes be crazy
and just for the like root for radio or chaos, like just the reverse
in time of a black quarterback on a white receiver versus a a white quarterback
receivers. I would just love for that to be the case too. They
already got a white receiver. You have a good one. Oay want Watt
justin Watson's name, Come on, come, on. And also there was
a ground shaking cut in the NFL the other day. I don't know if
you noticed it, but something that might switch up a lot of people's draft
boards, especially when it comes to that Seahawks pick. Is they they told
Will Disley they're partying ways with him. Will Disley is no longer. So
do you think that will change? Well, the Seahawks have to go tight
end to the first round to replace the great one Will Disley. H No,
I do not think that the Seahawks are going tighten around one pick up
Will Disley. I would love no. He costs too much easy. I
saw you go Pennix Junior to the Seahawks here. I think he will be
a successful NFL quarterback. That goes for you too. Span Yeah. I
think he's he could be the second best quarterback in this draft class. I
don't know why he's been the second best. WHOA, I don't know why
he's being slept on. I think I think it's ideal for him. Looks
like we've seen a lot of these quarterbacks that kind of get slept on,
Lamar Jackson, Deshaun Watson. But obviously he's not the same. But a
lot of these guys like fall in the back half of the draft and up
going to better teams in the better situations. I think he's good enough to
if he's playing it in a situation like that, he's a ball out.
Sixteen a little too early, to be honest with you, I don't know
why I did that, but I know that his former offensive coordinators over there
in Washington as well, so I could see, like why not bring him
home? Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I'm I'm concerned about
Penis with these injuries. The medicals came back, they're clean. Well,
I mean right now, think he's still had he's still sustained with those injuries
already in the best So yeah, we'll see, we'll see. I don't
think he's gon be first run pick, but yeah, yeah, I'm not
sure where he's gonna fall. I think I try to do this based off
what I think is gonna happen. But I do have like a bias becomes
of Michael Pennix. I think he's a fucking stud. I don't know why
he's being slept on. I was hell of fun to watch this year.
Yeah, he's amazing. He makes I feel like he makes every level of
a throw to one other piece. I feel like I may have messed up
on or slept on. I don't want to call myself if I probably shouldn't
call myself up. But a lot too, a lot too falling all the
way down to the UH had this in here along with Wiggins. Yeah,
because he's one of the better. And Brian Thomas Jr. Brian Thomas Junior.
Would I have him phone twenty nine? I think past past the Lions.
Yeah, I mean that's kind of because he staring at me. That's
true. So the things I'm hearing about Brian Thomas Junior is that he just
runs like those go routes, those nine yards, those nine routes, like
he's real. He's real, like north and south versus like being versatile and
where I think you'll probably go earlier as the speed and the size. But
again I'm trying to go based off what I think the teams will do.
I don't think too many guys need to wide receivers versus like who they took
in that situation. But a lot too lot too. Guy probably should have
left fall that far because he's a dog. A lot too lot too left
fall let full. Yeah, fuck me up. And the big question everybody
in the chat is waiting for the Detroit Lions trade up for Johnny Newton,
john the way up to number twenty three. What did you have to give
up to make this trade? And what do you think about Johnny Newton in
this defense? I gave up pick twenty nine and our third round pick from
this year to move up to twenty three there, and I just I thought
like that in a heartbeat, right And I feel like it's something Brad would
do if there's a prospect perceived as like a top ten in his position or
like a you know, guy that should win a lot earlier. I feel
like, if he's there in striking distance and it doesn't cost too much,
it's affordable, I think to move Brad one hundred percent would do. It's
a move we've seen Brad making the past. Some of the reasons he made
when he moves last year is like he had a certain amount of guys in
a first round grades and when they were still there, he's like, I
have to go and grab this guy. It makes no sense. He's there
right now, Johanny Newton. I feel like that's a needed for the Detroit
Lions. I feel like this guy will fit next to uh A Lee McNeil,
and he arguably was the number one defensive line prospect in this draft.
Classes just said he had foot surgery in January, and so some people I
think he's sliding down a little bit. I would love John Newton to be
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Spotlight for today is cornerback out of Florida State, Ronardo Green. Rinardo Green
is a six foot one hundred and eighty six pound quarterback. It's what he
aiden and measured two at the combine. He also ran a four to four
to nine in the forty with a one point five split for ten yards.
He played six hundred and fifty one snaps in twenty twenty three. Throughout thirteen
games, he had over forty tackles, thirteen pass breakups and interception, and
only a seventy five point zero quarterback rating allowed when targeted. This is a
big guy. He is a man press coverage corner He's sticky in man coverage.
He stays on the opponent sticky. He has very good feet and very
good hips when running down the field. Mirrors receivers down the field very well.
There's a lot of good things at the line of scrimmage to make some
things happen. Like I said, he has a great ability at changing direction
so he can go from one route to another. Very good at anticipating and
mirroring the receiver's routes. He has great ball skills and closing speed. His
hands are impressive. His attacking the ball is impressive, and when he gives
a little gap to a receiver, he can close that gap very fast with
his closing speed. He's fit and a good tackler. In the run game,
he is a very willing blitzer and is able to get the quarterback down
when he gets in the backfield. Ronaldo Green, this is a guy that
I think he's gonna go up some people's draft boards when you look at his
tape. He's not gonna be a first round pick. He might not even
be a second round pick, but he is an impressive talent. When I
look at him at cornerback, he did a lot of great things you can
look at his tape against LSU. His tape is beautiful and going against uh
what, I can't remember his name. Thomas Junior, Thomas Junior, and
neighbors and neighbors, neighbor. He put neighbors in a coffin like this guy
is a lockdown cornerback one guy, like he was a lockdown cornerback one guy
in college. He is a guy you put on an island, you put
out there with the opposing wide receiver, and you let him cook. He
is a man coverage corner. I like his size. I like his aggressiveness,
his physicality in the run game, win making tackles, and like I
said, he has great hips and great feet when it comes to mirroring receivers
and tracking the ball down the field. I think he would be a great
pick for a team later in the draft. I love Ernardo Green. I've
been highing in for a while. I hope he becomes a Detroit Lion.
That's what I'm saying. Like, I feel like there's gonna be three quarterback
acquisitions for Detroit Lions this offseason. One of them is for damn sure,
gonna be a signed in or trade. We will yet to see what happens
with Jerryusneed or Latimore, maybe even Carlton Davis if you guys want to do
some homework on him. But I think Ronardo Green is the guy I want
to stash either way, regardless, even if I go and sign l Jerious
Seed, I still want to stash Nardo Green because like you saw, like
you said, your SAH goal against Brian Thomas, you saw and goal against
Leak Neighbors, and he showed up. And I gotta be honest with you,
guys. I hate when people play the card of like, oh,
this school produces like this amount of quarterbacks. Oh that school never has any
quarterbacks. There no really have any good quarterbacks out of there. One true
thing about Florida State I'm not gonna say quarterback or like a specific position,
but just just yeah, secondary and just pros in general. I think Florida
State is good at making NFL products. Ronaldo Green have a fucking man crush
off for being honest with you. The guy I chose was the guy that
Tom pas Ceryl tweeted out say about a visit because I want to be educated
on him, was Christian Boyd. Christian Boyd out of Northern Illinois. I
believe it was the school. He's a big boy, six foot for seventeen
pounds. I went to Northern Iowa. Pol just said Illinois. He's really
violent with his hands. He's got his set down move that he's patting it.
He's got the swipe, he's got the push and pull. He's got
multiple moves. He's really strong with his hands. He's quick off the ball,
violent off the ball, and he fits that description of piece that I
want next to Lee McNeil and alongside In Hudgson. He could play that one
tech for you. He's got the size for it. I guess some of
the concerns why I think he didn't make it to the Senior Bowl and or
the Combine is he's been in there. He's been there for like four years,
five years. Want to say he's a little bit of a super senior,
but I think that Mattersment comes like grabbing a guy on your team as
a prospect or pro prospect. You're gonna get him on a rookie deal.
He's gonna play right away. Christian Boyd fills that need for me, every
little bit of piece I want to have a defensive tackle. He has it,
and the only concern is that he didn't play against like top tier talent.
But when he showed up for I believe it was the Shrine Bowl,
whatever it was, he was tossing guys around like left and right, whether
it's Wisconsin or like where they were, he manhandled him one on one.
So I think he's got the talent to be I'm not saying a superstar by
any means, but a piece of this defense that helps you and everything.
I think one thing you hear from Dan Campbell and ag throughout the season is
like they want guys to play specific roles and they don't want them going outside
of that role because it affects everything else. And that's how kind it is
in football is you got to play your role and it works as a team.
That's why I say it's the ultimate team sport. The same works on
offense. Defense works that same way. I think you can feel that one
tech spot next to Lee McNeil where they have more opportunities to pass rush against
one on one blocking. Yeah, that's the piece you like in there.
When you get a piece a disruptor and ita who eats it for lunch in
the middle of that defensive line. That is a guy that makes everyone around
him better. He makes the defensive lineman next to him better, which in
turn makes the secondary better because the quarterback has less time to the ball,
So him and projerc Martin, there'll be two refrigerators. You're fucking switching in
and out of there, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And I
think he has a little bit of pass rush there too. Like I think
he's more than just like you know, eating the blocks. He can make
moves and get after a quarterback as well. It's a guy like a lot
Nikki. Did you do you doing? No? I was cooking off that
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Detroit Tigers are trying to get to that next level. Spend He's getting muted
here, Ah Spenny is currently muted right now. No, I'm just playing.
I must go. So I cooked up some of the odds around the
leagues that have to do with the Detroit Tigers making the playoffs. A little
bit of win totals, a little bit of Tyreek's schoolble love for some cy
young stuff, and a little bit of some rookie love because you know we
got some young guys on this team. So here we go, Chris.
We're gonna sturt out Jesus TI Scooble right here, Chris, you can throw
it up the al Cy Young. Oh God, damn it, Chris,
me over under one hundred and sixty and a half strikeouts. We'll move to
the cy Young after this one. But just off rip. This number seems
low for an ace INTERI Schooble, spend most where you putting your money for
Terry Scooball strikeout? I mean it's even money both ways. It's minus one
thirteen either way. I mean I would like to go over, because if
he stays healthy and pitches thirty plus games, he's gonna hit that number.
Like, I don't think there's a question that he's gonna get that number if
he stays healthy and pitches the amount of games that he's supposed to do.
So I would say over easy, big baseball guy, big baseball guy.
I like Scoobs. I'm gonna go over. I think he's not a guy
that he doesn't throw for power and more technician if not mistaken, right am
I right there? Oh? He he's throwing throwing heat hell of a change
up and a hell of a break in velocity. Best player on this team?
Give me the over then, for sure, Chris best player on this
team. Oh, by far, he's the best player on this team.
We see better. See what happened when to hit Torch hitting forty dollars this
year? What happens Chris? Chris Hony take on the over under one hundred
and sixty and a half under. This guy stinks. I know a lot
about him. So, speaking speaking of this guy who stinks, the oddsmakers
do not agree with you, Terry Scuble, I believe is fourth. Fifth.
He is fifth on the al Cy Young on the voting. Here he
is with the guys of Garrett Cole, Kevin Guzman, Pablo Lopez, Corbyn
Burns in to close it out, lose Castillo under him in odds the tiger
that high up there on a twelve hundred, with the likes of Cole,
Guzman, Corbon, Burns, Castillo. I'm not too familiar with Pablo Lopez,
but Scooble here at plus twelve hundred. I'm not gonna lie fellas val
you. I love this value and we just talked about it on the last
segment. Over one hundred and sixty and a half strikeouts. If this guy
gets one hundred and eighty innings, he's talking up two hundred and twenty strikeouts.
So the numbers are gonna be there at least two twenty if he cuts
up one to eighty. I believe Terry Scubal is the ace of this team
if he can pick up the wins, if we can play winning baseball.
I think that's a big number for the AL side. Young at plus twelve
hundred before the season, I love this number. Spendmo, where are you
at with? It's a great value, It's a great value. He's definitely,
you know, he's got to be a top five guy in that situation.
When you look at at the arms in the AL there's not the elite
amount of arms that used to be. There's not the ten guys that you
look at his sign young candidates when you come into this season. So uh
Tarik definitely has a good, good situation going for him and he could for
sure be in that. But if I'm putting money on anybody, it would
be corpyn Burns. I just I think the O's are going to the World
Series this year. I think they have one of the best teams in the
league, and I think he's he's gonna get I think he might lead the
league and wins. Honestly, does it scare you at all that he's gonna
have to go up against the Yankees lineup multiple times a season? And then
Jase, we both have great hitters, especially with how they changed the breakdowns
now to where you're not playing your division as much as you used to in
the past. So he's not going to be seeing the Yankees or the Blue
Jays or these other teams like forty times like he used to. So I'm
not mad about it. I'm not worried about it. I think he's on
the best team in the American League. I think he's the best pitcher on
the best team in the American League, and if I would put money on
one of them to win, it would be him. But Schooble's up there.
That's great value. Definitely great value there, And just a little heads
up for everybody. Garrett Cole won it last year with a two point six
to three ERA, schoobo was out of two point eight. East is kind
of week for pitching. Yeah, I was gonna say I was a little
surprised with some of those numbers, but so he was hanging with that talking
about some of these numbers here and big expectations. These rookies have massive expectations
for these Detroit Tigers. We saw what guys like Spencer to Arkleson has done,
a guy like Riley Green have done. They kind of struggled at the
beginning of their career. We can't afford that for guys like Colt Keith,
a guy like Parker Meadows, he's still considered a rookie with his eligibility.
Chris, Let's see these odds here. We got Cold Keith, the Detroit
Tigers presumed are he's presumed to be the Tigers starting second basement coming out of
camp, and then at the bottom there Parker Meadows plus two thousand. So
we got Keith at four and Parker Medows down there. Does any of this
stand out to you? Spend well before I break some of these prospects down.
I like Cold Keith in one thousand. Obviously, why Langford just ahead
of him. That's a guy that I know you love, and it's a
guy who's definitely gonna push for that award. But it depends where Cold Keith
Colt. Keith hits in this lineup. To be honest, if he's in
the top half of it, I would feel pretty pretty comfortable with him with
him winning that award. But if he's back there and he's got Javier Bias
in front of him or behind him, he's going to be getting a lot
of RBI opportunities. Are not going to be driven a lot, driven in
a lot when he gets on base. So it's gonna be tough. And
I feel bad for anybody that has to hit in front of or behind Hovey
or Bias because you're just gonna get either walked or attacked because they know they
have an easy out waiting for them either way. When Hobby comes up to
the dish, so we'll see, we'll see where he falls in the order.
But he's plus a thousand. I don't mind that at all. I
think he's ready for the bigs and I think he's going to show it this
year. Do you have any expectations for Parker Meadows? Before I take a
deep down again, I don't know where this guy's gonna hit. If he's
hitting the one spot. If he's hitting in the one spot, I like
it because he can get on base, and obviously he's the fastest guy on
the team. So having guys behind you they can drive you in is definitely
gonna help a lot. If he's hitting in the one spot, he'll score
a lot of runs this year. So that is definitely something that could be
there. But between the two on the team, it'd be col Keith who
gets them, not I think over Parker Meadows. Yeah, one hundred percent.
There. I need to see a guy like maybe Mark Hanner or something
in front of him in this lineup so he can get on base, and
maybe a guy like Urseella him so he can actually hit him in because we
know Urcella has good average. But if he's in the six hole or the
five hole and then you put Rachella behind him and then hobber bias, I
would love that. But all right, hey, Chris put the odds up
real quick for one second. So the guys that are in front of Colt
Keith in this Rookie of the Year odds for the al are guys like Jackson
Holiday, a guy like Evan Carter, and a guy like Wyat Langford.
The thing that those guys all have in common, they're top six prospects in
baseball. These are top six prospects, which means they are expected to be
future super stars in the MLB for sure, all stars. A guy like
cold Keith, I believe he's in the twenties, so the expectations aren't as
high. But for the Detroit Tigers to reach where they want to go this
season, Cole Keith has to come out hot, unlike the guys like Spencer
Torklesen and Riley Green have. And speaking of this team getting to where they
want to go, Chris show us the odds for the Al Central and the
Detroit Tigers. So we are currently third at plus three seventy, you guys
said, behind behind the Cleveland Guardians and the Minnesota Twins at minus one twenty
five. The Tigers are plus three seventy. Tigers fans, do you still
say, does anybody see value spend mot looking at the odds saying they're the
favor favorites? Does anybody see any value in the Tigers plus three seventy or
are you still thinking they're a year behind? Maybe they should have spent more
in the offseason for some proven talent compared to depending on a lot of these
young guys and pitching like Matt Manning, Casey mice Ree Sulsen, guys heading
like Spend Spend most spendmotorkles In, and guys like Riley Green, Parker Meadows.
I mean, are you guys that with the Tigers. I mean,
if you're going to choose that or they're over under, you would take them
winning because you're getting plus money on that. And if they hit their over
on the season, which was what I think it was, seventy eight or
what is their over under? Yeah, if you're going to take the over
on them winning games, you might as well take them to win the division
because if you're going over eighty wins, then they're going to be first in
this division. So I like it at plus three three seventy. I think
they're better than the Guardians the Guardian. I don't know why the Guardians are
higher than us on that list. The Guardians don't really have that many pieces
that you look at and you're scared of. And the Twins are not better
than they were last year, and the Twins barely clawed it out last year.
So if the Tigers stay healthy, they're the best team in the division.
Do you think they will score enough runs. I think the pitching will
be good with Chris Patter and some of the new guys like Flaherty and my
Eighta, but those are like C list free agents, They're not like.
The pitching was already the best of the division last year, and that was
with guys in and out. I think they have the best bullpen in the
division, and I think they have the best starting rotation of the division.
And adding guys like Canna and or Schella that get on base, that is
going to be huge. Those guys get on base, those guys get hits,
so that is going to be huge to them scoring more runs this year.
Like I said about Terry's scuball, I do like the value there because
I think it's going to be a tight race all the way down to September.
So I do like put sprinkle in a little bit of cash right there
on the Tigers. I probably will before the season, likely minus money.
Yeah. Yeah, I think it's because they have the most star power and
they wanted last year, who's get the best offensive division? Twins good pitching.
We have the best pitching in the Vision by far. Yeah, with
some question marks though we don't know how clarity is going to bounce back?
Can my ada still hold up at I think extremely bounce back? How many
innings are you going to get from Schooble? Matt Manning has been hurt in
the past. There are question marks everywhere. Clarity gonna be clarity, Miota,
especially with Chris Fetter, you know, pulling the strings behind those guys.
I'm not worried about that off feeder and that was around the al central
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if we hit ninety likes before it hit seven pm on my computer, Spencer,
No, we'll do that. We'll do a Cold Street style freestyle.
I gotta move the trash can a little bit. It's overflowing. It's not
gonna oh that was gonna yeah. But also smashed that like I'm just hating
please you. I know a lot about this guy. It sucks, dude.
He has the smallest shoulders. And all right, I gotta know back
the mail. It makes you wail, It makes you want to wag your
tail. Power ranked the hitting in the AL Central Teams Wise power ranking the
Ale Central like the hitting offense. The offense Number one Twins. Number one
is Twins. That's why they're number two. Let's go Tigers, get out
of here. All right, you save your list. I'm writing his down.
Tigers number two. Really okay? All right? Number three Twins bro
alright, Twins. I know that they suck. They're probably their Nick.
I want you to call him up. He's being a homer now. Number
four, I mean, honestly, it doesn't really matter. I'll go no,
I'm going Royals socks five, Nick, Yeah, yeah, honestly,
this just looking at this are these teams are so bad? These teams are
ass That's why I thought we should have spent money, because if you get
a guy, I mean, we are depending so heavily on Parker Meadows to
be a guy for this team. Yeah, what if he can't hit.
He was like our number sixteen prospect before we called him up. He had
a great like back Kend like he showed promise. But we've seen these guys
come up and be absolutely bussed. Is it something that I wouldn't have signed
a Cody Bellinger and put him out in center. Imagine an outfield of Cody
Bellinger, Riley Green and Mark Canna. Instead, you're depending on a guy
in Parker Meadows who has never been able to show it for a full season.
I'm not saying he won't. I'm just saying I don't think that's good
business when it's division. Is this brutal? And if you could pay for
a former All Star type guy, I just I would have done it,
honestly. But I'm going Twins, Tigers, Royals, Guardians, and then
White Sox. I think the White Sox are gonna bottom out. Yeah,
the White Sox sucked, Dude, White Sox. All they got is their
pitching's brutal, That's all they got. Yeah, I mean they gave up
on Jose Bray. He's now on the astro, even on the team anymore,
even though he's trash. Yeah, honestly, I'm fired up for baseball
to be coming back. I know he's really I cannot wait for We're gonna
get you to You're gonna love it, dude. Now. Honestly though,
they got Knights pitching, so I mean there's that. I mean, hopefully
Torque can start out hot. He sucked in March in April last year,
so this team needs to start way better or this year is gonna be just
like the past four. We are knock to be able. This seems not
good enough to get red hot where they're winning twenty four games in a you
know, in a month. They don't see that. They cannot They can't
start out like they have the past couple of years. They need, they
need to have a good start, which they should because I'm pretty sure their
first series is against the White Sox. Yeah, are going to be there
in Chicago, which I'm jealous about, and then I won't be at the
fucking opening day day. Yeah, you guys better be getting don't know,
but probably I'm not gonna watch the as we're cooked. Why would they want
everyone chilled? Dude, boys, come on, we want to see it.
We want to see a win. Yeah. No, I'm just saying
they cook. They aren't like great. Hopefully school Hopefully School bol starts against
the White Sox week or game one and then Game one at home. That
would be awesome. My favorite I did listen to is and if you announce
the ace, I'm not an ace, I'm Scoops. Yeah, Jury school
was cool guy, Yeah he's cool. Mailbag mail Bag O'Neil says, would
you rather the Lions bringing a true man corner and run a man's zone split
with Sutton or bringing a zone corner and fully commit to being zone. I
want the man's own split just because I don't know if AG knows how to
operate with zones. Clearly fucking something that bothers the shot of him, and
they've been yet to get that secondary down. I'd rather do the manon manzone
split for sure. For sure, I don't I don't like running. Also
that doesn't I don't like that, but I don't like it. I don't
like it. Yeah, next up, Steve o baby mail bag Spencer,
would you rather have Joe Dumars back since Tom is doing a shitty job?
I mean, yes, he won championship. Yeah, it'd be better than
what we have what's going on right now off easy hates. I wish I
could have Troy's drafting with Joe's trading and somebody else to do free agency because
neither of them should do it. Sounds like we just need a good GM.
Yeah. Fuck, but that that's my question. Yeah, not to
go too far off the tangent, but Troy Leaver was a highly regarded prospect
as far as GM goes. So do you think it's like, is it
really making the decisions to bring these people in? Sucks? Exactly? That's
tom Tom Gordon hired a bad GM. He hired a bad coach at some
point it's on you ugly or sometimes decent prospects and then just got in the
way of letting them. Yeah, I mean that also doesn't help. Yeah,
that's kind of where I'm at with it. Somebody mail bag mail the
fucking bag, mal bad question for the chat. Have you guys liked but
yet Spencer an easy mail bag? Would you give up Jared Goff for KILEB
Williams hypothetical? Yes? Yeah, come on, yes, three one three
Let's eat lions? Who put that in? But yeah, yeah, I
would, And I think thirty two jams in the NFL would as well.
Yeah, probably probably probably would, just because the contracts coming up, you
know, and he's more talented. Arm talent wise. I mean, if
you put up. I do think there's some questions about kill Williams, and
I think it's beyond like just the field. I think it's like can he
be a leader? Yeah? That type of show? Does he like cats?
Does he like cats? Cat? Dog? He passed that test.
He has a dog. Yes, he's not in the I have a dog
and a cat. You don't have your parents. I just the dog and
then you got the cat yourself. Dog's a beard. The dog was already
there. Yeah, no, the dog was definitely was a dog family.
Yeah. I went to with my family to pick the dog and you know,
just but it was just because you grabbed the cat by yourself. How
dare you over it? You guys are like drunk man. Wait wait,
wait, let's understand you should love Jared Goff, but like it's not blasphemy
to say that you trade Jared Golf for Kile Williams. Someone said that you
just make that up. I don't see just making up comments. You fat,
he's sulfing himself. We gotta make sure. Michael Jordan, Well,
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